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Rank 8 Archers - https://treeofsavior.com/news/?n=564

Previous thread - >>150133148


Delivery Rewards: https://treeofsavior.com/news/?n=544

Patch Notes: https://treeofsavior.com/news/?n=551

Team Battle League: https://treeofsavior.com/news/?n=546&c=31

Guild Battles: https://treeofsavior.com/news/?n=355&vp=2&c=31

Rank 8 Swordsman Info: https://treeofsavior.com/news/?n=541

>Can I play the game now?
YES YOU CAN (Get it on steam)! Rank 8 Soon™

TOS Info: http://pastebin.com/3YcrrJkd

This includes more detailed information, as well as tools, resources, patch notes and official links.

>What is Tree of Savior?
Tree of Savior is an action MMORPG with a lot of classes, cute hats and autism grinding.

>Add-ons:
https://github.com/Excrulon/Tree-of-Savior-Addon-Manager

>Cards List:
http://pastebin.com/PrCkZ21n

>Servers
- kTOS - Server : ded
- iTOS: Klaipeda (NA), Fedimian (EU), Telsiai (SEA)

>Official Translation Project - https://github.com/Treeofsavior/EnglishTranslation
Helping in the translation will speed up international server updates and remove unwanted machine-translated text. There are also rewards for contributors, further explained on the github page.

>/tosg/ Guilds info
There is no /tosg/ guild in Varena/Silute, if you want one, either wait for someone to make one or roll a templar.
If Guild is recruiting, please post in the thread.
>Klaipeda
Futureproof ()
Clover (Karga)
Database (Cattly)
CuteNotLewd (Plasmagica)
Cake (DeliciousCake)
>Orsha
Kotatsu (Colyo)
>Fedimian
CoffeeHouse (Capyba)
>Telsiai
Comfy (Katzenberg)

Cookie Cutter Guide :
>Wizard and Archer still unedited, Discuss in thread before using
http://pastebin.com/aGk6Ku7c
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>Futureproof()
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I wonder what Julie is doing right now...
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>>150175309
Am I the only one that ships Julie and Atom?
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>>150175238
>he doesn't know about carve attack
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Did you get princess carried by Rance tonight /tosg/?
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>People go to all these lengths to tell me I'm garbage.
There's no winning with some people.
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CUT MY LIFE INTO PIECES
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>>150175360
>Igno Rance
>rance picked a joke name for his necro
Man, it's getting really hard to dislike this guy.
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>>150175389
More like disorganized and can't get groups together to properly grind up levels, gear, and silver for attributes to be able to properly pvp.
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>>150175365
You don't need to be good, you have tiddies
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we're recruiting. we offer 200 dungeon rush and give you the ability to give me talt along carrying me to victory. i don't have any restrictions on what you just don't expect me to do anything ever.

my discord is klaipedia guild community and i'll be making a patreon you can donate to soon
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Featherfoot necros strong, STRONG! Even won against first place diev.
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>>150175365
I love you, koenig
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>>150175389
This is literally Lolipan.
>Gear doesn't matter because we have 600 level cap
>Getting 280 doesn't matter because we have 600 level cap

Trash tier player
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>>150175551
Neat build. What are the other circles?
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>be QS3
>Didel doesn't drop
Now what
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>>150175551
Do you have Linker? If you do then you're just another bug exploiter.
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>>150175389
Once you have a Max Peta, a Grynas like plate set, 2x Glass Bracelet/Sissels or Gladiator depending on build and a decent weapon you are already PvP geared ready
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>>150175651
How many days?
The average is around 2 weeks of rerolling daily.
I know this because both me and my friend got ours from rerolling daily after 17 days and 19 days respectively
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Pvp cata:

>full con
>1:1 dex:con
>50con rest in dex

Which one is it?
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>>150175651
Try again tonorrow, m80.
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>>150175741
the last one, you can't hit anyone if you dont
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>>150175651
Get +15 Grand Cross, getting +15 Grand Cross doesn't even require exploits
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What stat distribution is Rance's necro?
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>>150175690
he has linker2
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>>150175815
Full CON
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>>150175815
go full con and face roll as kino2/necro2. you don't need int at all to hit 1 all these people with 15-20k hp and 200mdef.
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>>150175815
800 points on con for 140k hp
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>>150175853
Linker C2 just means you're exploiting the bugged Joint Penalty though
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>>150175898
>rance
>transpose exploiter
that's patch, rance is a boyscout. didn't even macro at bees
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Fwee
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>>150175734
That's a lot of money.
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>>150175975
Oh wait, yeah sorry. I'm having names mixed up
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>>150175734
>rerolling Saalus cubes
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>>150175856
This is wrong. I'm sure he has more than 100 int.
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>>150175309

ERPing with me.
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>>150175365
HAHAHAHA

THE MONK HAS BEEN PROVEN TO BE TRASH

IS NOT BIG SURPRISE HAHAHA
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>>150175178
>Cake (DeliciousCake)
>Clover (Karga)
>CuteNotLewd (Plasmagica)
>Database (Cattly)
>Futureproof (Lolipantsu)
>F.O.E(Jinsae)
---
F.O.E is looking for members for GvG. "Top 10 Material"
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Discord Invite Link:
https://discord.gg/0heefDqe35vj9Raj
---
Have a nice day. Jinsae here
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>>150175389
Baby steps to giant strides
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This will kill ToS
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>>150176231
>Non-MMO is going to kill an MMO
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>>150176140
It could be on the next reroll!

Or you could be like that one korean guy who spent 34 million on Saalus rerolls, getting literally nothing but talt until he quit.
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>>150176161
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What is the game like? Should I even consider playing?
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>>150176231
but I don't have a ps4
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>>150176346
korean grindfest
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>>150176231
If Legion doesn't kill ToS I don't think anything ever will at this rate.
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>>150176231
>the game that got cucked out of its own name is going to kill any games.
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>>150176346

Diablo 2 but cute
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>>150176468
>WoW
>Kill anything anymore
It's going to spike up some and then bomb even harder than it has been.
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QS3>SR3
QS3>SR2>Hakka
or QS3>Wugu2>Mergen?
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>>150176591

F O R W A R D S H O T
O
R
W
A
R
D

S
H
O
T
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>>150176486
I fucking WISH this was Diablo II but cute.
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>>150176591
qs3>reroll
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>>150176558
That only stops it from killing ToS if people come back to ToS after.
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>>150176662
That implies that a significant amount of people that are currently playing ToS are leaving to play WoW.
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>>150176793
well, Moonie is confirmed for leaving for WoW :^)
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>>150176185
I'M MAD
MAD ABOUT MEMES AND MAD ABOUT BEING MEMED ON

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
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>>150176816
ERPers are not people.
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>>150176839
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How is your mmr after today's arenas? Im at 1030
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>>150176839
then youre either lying or need to stop avatarposting
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How long exactly does it take for the hampster to grow?
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2lAP5oR2WLU

what is this?>
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Can you get grynas recipe from the torch even if you didn't participate? Like go there at x:10 when the event is over?
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>>150176996
1089
Have to mention my average damage is pretty low, i just carve an Ausrine and let people carry me to the top
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>>150177245

Thanks, it should mature by tonight then.
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>>150177210
as long as the torch is lit you can get the reward, people just show up early to get EXP
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>>150177205
Even this shit have more fps than tos.
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>>150176996
1150, I need to stop getting matched against Bot every time.

>>150177034
5 days, although IMC supposedly did this change: "Young guild companions can now be fed in half the time".
We thought it would halve the maturation time, but nothing's changed.
Maybe it's one of those things that didn't get applied properly.
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>>150177205
kek this garbage actually runs at a higher fps than ToS does
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>>150177396
On a fucking iPhone or whatever phone chinks usr
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>>150176839
I STILL LOVE YOU MONK TRASH AHAHAHAHA

PLEASE DONT QUIT HAHAHAHAHA
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how do i know what commands can be used in /dev mode?

google gave me grep but idk how that works
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Leaf Pattern Armband
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>>150177205
A Chinese ToS rip-off? What the fugg???
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>>150176996
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o51wUEJuinY
1105. it's hard to win against a kabbalist when you kill yourself auto attacking revenge sevenfold
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>>150177572
It's a mobile game
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>>150177321
Oh I'm similar, I'm a rank 5 diev3. And yet I still manage a kill or two from owls while the r6 archers and swordies can't.
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>>150177641
>and it runs better than ToS

hehehehehehehehehe
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Today's Scavenger Hunt reward
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can anyone post the protective potion we get today from box delivery
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>>150175815
I'm 160 CON 120 INT right now. I'm really unsatisfied with my damage right now and fail to kill people in the arena sometimes, so I would recommend 1:1 CON:INT or even more of an INT focus than that. I was built for GBL/Open world GVG where I hoped my damage would be better carried by a gear advantage.

One thing to look out for that nobody seems to mention is that you are never going to hit with your full flesh cannon. I play at 150-250ms and even if everything goes perfect with my magnetic skill -> talent cannon combo I only expect 6-7 hits AT MOST. It's usually way less. This means that you both do not get "multi-hit" advantage to the full 16 hits that the skill suggests, and that you have to make sure each of those ticks hit hard enough that CON heavy builds will die to about 5 of them.

Full disclosure, the circle setup (kino2/necro2) was completely and totally inspired by dvine after seeing him wreck in wars when I was low level. I decided to run a very similar premise but go CON heavy instead of INT when I rolled this.

That was really long, sorry. Let me know if you have any other questions.
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>>150178072

Increases 100 defence and magic defence for 3 minutes, 120 seconds cooldown.
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>>150178126
>mfw Rance gets after-pvp moojobs from his cow
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>>150178165
and i got 8 sp pots from the box
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>>150178126
retard
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>>150178321

I'd open the box but my honor compels me to deliver it every time.
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>>150177895
you cant team storage this
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>>150177895
No stats?
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>>150178126
you need more girth on your flesh cannon. int is pointless for arena since nobody has high mdef and 20k hp doesn't make a difference to 100% flesh cannon
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>>150178617
>int is pointless in arena
just because youre a shitter doesnt mean int is useless.
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>>150178617
I'm at 75% right now. As much as I'd like to go up to 85% that 10% jump alone is 14 million and with bees a lot slower than they used to be, it's hard to take that dive.

The other thing stopping me is the skeleton buffs. I'm at Lv 10 for the skeleton damage attribute, and I can take it to Lv 70 for 11m. If/When we get the % change, I'd kinda want 60% more damage from my skeletons than 10% more damage on my flesh cannon, you know?
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>>150178729
>telling the only person with full int and 100% flesh cannon on the server what's good about int in arena
mkay.
>>150178782
you should start saving for rank 8 instead of maxing out skeletons. you'll want money to instantly buy rank 8 attributes instead of saving up for them
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>>150179142
Yeah, that's kinda my point. I'm sitting on a good chunk of change right now and haven't poured it into either option. I'm probably just gonna stay this way, because upgrading gear before the level bump is pointless (and I already have pretty damn good gear) and taking my attributes any further is risky before the r8 attributes are released.

I think the only thing that would cause me to cash in my jew horde right now is if I was an active participator in GBL and really felt my guild needed me to give 110%.
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>>150179142
Tell us again about your 100% flash cannon.
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>>150179232
>lgbt
make sure you can stay inside the game and connected before you excited about this mode.
>>150179456
it's 100% girth and when i put it inside you it'll cause lots of bleeding but it's got an addictive quality so you'll always come back for more
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>dvine still shitposting when its already been proven hes such a shitter in arena that hes sub 1000
>taking any of his shitposting advice
kek
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>>150179732
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9VtSpsqaIh0
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Guys do I wait for rank8 to use my skill reset potion or do I use it now to remove useless points?
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>>150177205
hahahahahahahahahahahahaha oh wow
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>>150180414
whats so amazing, is it that suprising chinks copied a semi-succesful mmo?
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>>150177205
>>150180414
>>150180465
The real joke is that it's going to be better than tos.
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Which one should I use?

https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#11344888.354555.153545.1a283a5171.1f5a758a95 + Shinobi at R8

https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#11344898.354555.153545.1a283a5171.1a557a85.153555 + Corsair at R8
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>>150180908
They're both shit, corsair is a ded end class route unless r9 gives them something due to the fact that murmillio needs shields and lancer is mounted
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>>150181008
R9 will make hop2cor3ninja's the new meta, but that's a long long way off.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6YWfHcysWCM

another one
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>>150180908
Never more than 1 point in guardian and once the ktos "buff" that makes guardian percent based, its even worse and not even worth a point.
3 bash is amazing even 200 +
If you're adamant about going shinobi than max synchro thrust since with the ktos buff, it works with clones
Iron hook is one of the main core reasons besides flag to go corsair so i don't know what the fuck you're doing there
Dwa is garbage but you'll find that out yourself soon
Dust devil isn't worth more than a single point for cc
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Sword 1 Pelt 3 Rodelero 3 Murmillo 1

Yes or no? Should I swap Rodelero for Squire?
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>>150179880
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sNjpuoAQDTA
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for necro, is 100 con enough and rest to int?
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>>150181223
Only one pelt is necessary. I'd prefer, if I were you to take barb2 or high1barb1 or something with hop to give more attack options and open up more weapon options.
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>>150181391
our guy literally just went over this earlier in this thread
>>150178126
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>>150181454
Please stop this meme.
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>>150181621
If you want to pvp int is pretty crap inside arena.
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>>150181717
I was talking about the 'our guy' thing.
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>>150181717
t. misinfo agent
Just because int-shitters like dvine run around, doesn't mean int is bad.
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>>150181923
Leaderboards speak for itself retard. Why don't you prove how INT is better than CON for pvp?
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>>150182086
but it's 4 hours. enjoy not sleeping hehehehehehee
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>>150181923
int isn't bad, but it's not needed in arena. in arena CC rules, and you need hp to survive through CCs. you can kill everyone without any int/str in arena. in arena survival > damage, that's just how pvp is in this game
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>>150182060
>muh why don't you prove it???
Can you read?
If you die to full CON skills, you're just as bad as them. It was already explained here why INT is needed. >>150178126
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>>150181923
int isn't bad, but it's not needed in arena. in arena CC rules, and you need hp to survive through CCs. you can kill everyone without any int/str in arena. in arena survival > damage, that's just how pvp is in this game
>post gets deleted the second i posted it for fuck knows what reason
hiro please
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>>150182292
>Still can't prove that INT is better than CON
Stay shit at the game just like dvine
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>>150182313
Yeah good luck CC'ing people with prophecy and bloodlet.

>>150182376
>waa waa s-show p-proof!
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This conversation is seriously retarded. Dvine wants survivability because he has less. Rance wants killing power because he has less. This is how it's supposed to be. This is build variety and it's actually working.
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I made a friend!
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Does running shot work with sub weapon "C" attacks?
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>>150182593
<3
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>>150182593
I-I want to make a friend too! since everyone quit already
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>>150182421
There are CCs which go through both you know and more importantly arena is team pvp, which means you need to be able to survive 2v1 should you get focused down which makes survivability more important than damage.
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>>150182628
No
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>unironically focusing your build on TBL
Okay have fun in your dumb standardized casualfest for 1 exp card per day while I get 6000 TP for actually building properly rofl.
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>>150182910
I will be your friend!

Will we still be friends once I become a Monk?
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>>150182926
Yeah I know, but saying "int isn't needed" is just pushing full CON builds down our throats. Your CC will be ineffective when you can't deliver proper DPS to kill.
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>>150183125
You don't need INT to be able to 100-0 someone you mongoloid. Play the game. Your argument is atrocious
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>>150183278
You should play the game.
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About to start my first character in ToS! Am I going to regret this (NA)?
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>>150183831
Yes. Be careful game is addictive.
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>>150183864
Nothing better to do! Going down the fighter line, probably going to be a tank or however that works.
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>>150183831
>>150183929
>fighter line, probably going to be a tank or however that works
oh boy you're in for some suffering
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>>150183960
>>150183864
Is team name like character name? or like a last name? Are they bad or something?
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>>150183995
team is last name shared on all characters.
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>>150183995
>Is team name like character name? or like a last name?
It's your ingame name. It's shown as <Character Name> <Team Name>
>Are they bad or something?
About fighters/swordies, nah not really, but their solo damage will be awful by late game. Shouldn't really matter as late game is full of grinding parties. Be sure to take a look at OP pastebin before planning your build!
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>>150184072
>>150184118

Thanks, sorry for being a bother. I just want to protect people like a good valkyrie should!
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>>150184172
I hope you have fun.
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>>150183125
That's what I mean by team battles. You don't need damage when you can focus down someone that's CCed with your team mates. You need to be able to survive being CCed by the enemy so you can gang up on anyone who your team CCs instead.
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>>150184283
Thanks :D. Should I make a paladin or a squire (or something else) if I want to be a tankgirl?
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>>150184498
No, paladin is afk jew crafter class, squire is afk jew class.
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>>150184707
Oh geez, definitely not for me then! I guess ill keep looking. I suppose it's safe to pick warrior first I guess.
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>>150184498
>>150184789
read cookie cutter build on OP
though if you want to tank, the first step is to take Peltasta. If you're planning to go for full-tank 0 damage you should take pelt3-squire3. For general PVE purposes 1 rank is enough if you want to still deal damage.
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Is it normal that there aren't any tokens in the market when I check sometimes?
At all I mean. On Fedi and Klai both
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>>150184498

In this game taking 1 circle of Peltasta is pretty much all you need to be an effective "tank" for most purposes. You could go Pelt 3 and max taunt but be warned that you'd be sacrificing a lot of damage and soloing would get very tedious. I know a few people who play the Pelt3-Squire3 full tank/support build, I don't recommend this one unless you're leveling with friends who do damage. If you want to be a still effective tank that does a decent amount of damage and can solo easily you take 1 circle in pelt and the rest in damage and get a decent amount of CON.

The most common build paths either end in Doppel or Fencer.
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>>150184938
dont tell him to make peltasa 3 squire 3 its way to give up on game.
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>>150184938
I'm looking through it, but I just am not sure what I'm looking at class wise. Also can you unlearn stuff or are builds permanent?
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>>150185061
Could just be that stupid market bug where you don't see any listings until you cycle through tabs/reopen the market, but in Telsiai there's only half a page of tokens at 750k minimum.

Even the whales have given up.
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>>150185092
Interesting, ill probably just do a 1 point thing since I am playing solo for the foreseeable future. I really do appreciate it.
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Is kaloo hammer worth building around?
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>>150185612
>Saddhu
No.
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A reminder that FP can only PvP when spawn camping people or killing people outside dungeons while wearing hundreds of Dispellers.
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This is what GBL looks like.
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>>150186335
not really, framerate is too high
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>>150186335
>that guy just running off screen probably saying fuck it
>that guy at the end who just trips and dies
kek
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>quarrel shooter
>doesn't shoot quarrels
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>level 226, 207 hours now in this grindfest of a game
>half the time, I don't know what i'm doing, stat builds items etc.
>have no friends playing this game
>still a shitter after 200+ hours of playing

When does it get "fun"? ; A ;
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>>150187412
When you quit.
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>>150187412
Join a guild.
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>>150187412

Join a guild!
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Oh god, potions are expensive. Good thing I havnt been using them.
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>>150187169
a quarrel is a crossbow arrow.
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>>150187412
Join Cattly's guild!
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>>150187582
>>150187612

B-but that would mean I would need to talk to people right? ._.
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>>150187737
Not really. Some ppl in guild never/rarely talk.
Dont think anything will change about >>150187412 if you stay solo/silent/to-urself tho
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>>150187412
When you make yourself look cute and find other cuties to ERP with.
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My hampster finally matured, but I can't seem to ride it. I heard that any class can ride it, or did I hear it wrong?
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the fucking leaf armband is untradable
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>>150188223
We don't have that update yet.
Hehehehe
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What are you guys listening to right now for your...never ending grind?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6H79HZfYPXs
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>>150182459
salty retards who dislike me are now bending over backwards to create arguments i'm bad somehow

>rance our guy is top at 2v2!
>post 2v2 same rank as him
>i-it d-doesn't c-count
>i-int is amazing and y-you're bad
>dvine is bad but did more than i did ever at the game :^)

do you retards think arena is going away next week? don't blow your tiny quick shot so easily cause you're gonna eat shit the second i got a proper 5vs5 character with con to face roll like you too.
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>>150187737

It's an MMO and most people are friendly, you should at least give it a try!

Join Database/Cake if you're on Klaipeda, they're both small, comfy guilds.
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https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#2111bbbf.16233f516a7585.1e3f586385.14253551
think this is ok or are the 1 point wonders more worth it
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>>150187693
then name it crossbow arrow shooter, fuckboy.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CMX2lPum_pg

How is he doing it? upgrading after 2 failures?
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>>150188546
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cVMrRwtC1cs
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Um, new person from earlier. In my tank build do I need to put points into dex? If so, 1dex/4con?
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>>150189375
4 dex 1 con

dodge is important, little nigga
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>>150189402
I will protect with my body! If I dodge, my teammates might get hit.
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>>150189470
t. shitter
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>>150189375
Don't put a lot of dex unless you're going fencer. STR-based swordsmen got a huge damage buff. Around 70~90 con is what you probably want.
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Before the game was out, I was vaguely interested in becoming an alchemist pseudo-npc. Soon after it was released it turned out that alchemists were worthless. I'm looking at rank 8 info now, it looks like alchemists will be able to transmogrify or what have you, plus they'll receive new recipes. Is it worth playing an alchemist or are wizards supposed to only play one of three builds to be viable?

Also is there any wizard class outfit better looking than thaumaturge yet? I remember having difficulties fitting the class into a build but I really only want the robes anyway.
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>>150189681
I just started and am level 10. Im probably going to screw up my character terribly but oh well! So far i've put every point in con :x
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>>150189786
You'd at least want your STR to be higher than your CON. Maybe a 2STR:1CON until you reach 70~90 CON. Add some DEX if you prefer
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>>150189375

>>150185092 here,

That much CON is overkill, aim for 100ish CON at most and put the rest into DEX and a bit of STR.

Also forgot to mention earlier, Cataphract into Dragoon (into eventual Lancer R8) is another common build path if you like mounted classes and going fast. The OP has a bunch of example builds if you weren't already aware, I'd personally suggest you stick to a cookie cutter build and don't stray too far from it since you're just starting out.

Hope this helps!
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>>150189954
Is that normal for a tank type build? I figured at the most it would be something like 1:3. Or is everyone a dps in this game?
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Is there a /tosg/ guild that plays together and helps each other or are we all a bunch of Kiritos? (Not desu)
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>>150190052
You do not want a lot of CON (talking about very high CON here) because as long as you survive, your healer can restore your HP back again.
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>>150190159
foe
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>>150190391
He said a /tosg/ guild.
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>>150190159

Despite the memes, I'm sure Clover, F.O.E., Coffeehouse, Futureproof all play together.

Meanwhile, fuck you Kim for you spaghetti code we've been spamming this for 20 minutes now.
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Man why can't guilds have officers who can start guild events when the leader isnt on?
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>>150190486
Because IMC is retarded
If you want the templar can pass lead and privilige to another templar
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>>150189732
Just make a pyro 2 linker thaum alchemist like everyone else.
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I feel kinda sad now - after coming back to ToS none of the buff/stuff shops that I used are in the game now at all - those players stopped playing
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>>150191004
because their best customer quit... they lost their purpose.
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>>150190159

Join Database.
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>>150191004
They make better money afking at bees. That's everything wrong with this game.
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>Alchemist item dungeon on same system as other instance dungeons
>Can't make an item dungeon when you can't make other instance dungeons
>A group of alchemists could hold the dungeon server hostage with constant item dungeons
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>>150175517
Underrated post
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>>150191745
They should really ban macro bee farmers.
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>play tos
>go to bed
>wake up
>launch tos
>see this

DICKS
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>tfw you had nightmare about Kabbatats revenge 7 in GBL

KILL ALL JEWS
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http://www.tosbase.com/database/quests/20317/
Is this quest bugged? I just get a charge bar, that says "BASIC ATTACK", then Full Bar whe it is filled and then I can't move for a few seconds.
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>>150192915
I'm going through the same thing. I guess they broke the quest during the merge.
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>>150192915
>>150193151
It wasn't like that when I did it 2 weeks ago
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What the sSTATs for a PVP WIZ 3 PSYKOKINO 3 LOCKK??

1:1 INT AND CON?
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>>150192915
>>150193151
OK so I fgured out that you have to hold the command which will make a blue ring appear you can aim around. But then I can't fire it or whatever with any attack button or releasing lt+start.
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>>150194008
Stop shitposting and help me with this >>150192915
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>>150192915
>>150194141
https://forum.treeofsavior.com/t/quest-broken-tremendous-effects-grand-corridor/315823

>We are already aware of this issue and our dev team is looking into this problem. We apologize for the inconvenience.
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>>150176231
>console FPS

wow its fucking nothing
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>>150194331
Alright thanks.
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>>150178126
>222
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guess that tiddy
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Newfag here, what's the meta build for Archer?
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>>150195398
The meta changes every 2 months, so why bother?
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>>150176471
What is it and what happened?
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>>150195398
Archer2>QuarrelShooter3>Musket1
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Level 115 dungeon is not popular, huh? People don't seem to queue this much.
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>>150195398
Archer 2, Hunter 3, Fwee 2
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>>150195464
Is dragoon a good class?
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>>150195398
Fletcher
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>>150195624
lots of people take it


Make a build with synergy, where all classes you pick fortify one another
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>>150195624
It's pretty solid for a swordsman R7. I didn't like his circle 2 though but lancer is going to be the hottest shit.
I'm pissed that I can't grind solo. In RO while party grinding was the most efficient (and that wasn't true for some classes and builds too) yous till could grind solo anytime with a damage dealer.
In ToS a party is required, there are literally no efficient solo grinding spots (unless you have maybe one-two specific classes). I can't grind at all today since I'm doing some work on the side and am distracted all the time so I can't let down my party by afking frequently like a retard. Leveling my alt is fine too but I really want to push my main to 260.
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>>150196209
>cant solo
what meme is this?
you can solo fine unless you're one of those people who absolutely MUST get 10+m per hour

Just do kill counts and map explores for your level, ezpz
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>>150196392
That's extremely mind numbing.
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>>150195398
Archer QS3 Sapper Scout Rogue Musketeer. You have invisibility one shotting with Musk and QS for your main filler DPS as well as a stun and the ability to break statues along with Sapper and Rogue to deal with magic circles.
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>>150196473
All grinding is "extremely mind numbing".
What you're whining about isn't "party grinding and solo grinding being impossible", its "I don't wanna grind wwaaah".

Theres enough quests right now to hit 260~, kill counts and exploration lets you hit around 275 for the class 15 reset which should be enough.
This isn't even mentioning dungoens/missions.

In the end you just don't want to grind.
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>>150175360
Tell me he has characters named Sengoku and Kichikuou.

How much do Joint Penalty gems go for on Klaipeda?
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>rank5 cata from orsha
>lose 1 round
>"noob team"
why are sub humans monkey even allowed on klaipedo match
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>>150175360
>Evergarden's panties
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>>150196654
>All grinding is "extremely mind numbing"
>he wasn't mobbing for comfy party in RO with party or guild chat reading being almost like listening to radio
>he wasn't wizard cracking jew-jokes between casting AoEs to kill shit pulled by knight
>he wasn't performer folowing his party and refreshing song every now and then while watching anime on the side
>he wasn't priest having hands full of work buffing 11 and healing 11 other people
Who ruined your childhood by kicking you out of your room so you could drink and fuck girls in home parties?
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Hello anons, I will share this information with you, I opted to post this on reddit for a more general audience but fuck em, we are currently breaking TOS's legal terms so its better to remain unnamed

Anyways from what we gathered in the latest banking, DPK and RNG does not exist in both Cube drops and monster drops

Cube Drops
>characters upon creation has a set predetermined table of drops for each boss cube
>one guinea pig that took weeks to uncover had a table of; (level 50 dungeon cube)

Talt>Talt>Obsidian>Talt>Gold Bar>Talt>Talt>Talt>Talt>talt

*as seen on its table when we played surgeon on it

>guineapig dropped the exact items upon doing the dungeons

Monster Drops

the same applies to monster drops but a bit more complicated, the map upon after every reset (maintenance) also resets the mosnter table it has, for example, upon mining west siauliai woods, the table showed that each monster that spawns has a predetermined drop to it (some has no drop at all), the best way to explain it all is to imagine a deck of cards and picking out a specific card (ie. Ace of spades) and hoping that each card you draw is the one card you picked, and if its not you keep drawing

tldr, DPK and RNG does not exist in the game
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>>150197141
also in case of monsters their tables are usually formatted like this

xxx silver
xxx drop
*xxx bonus drop
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>>150196815

He does.
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Who else 1100+ but literally 10k average damage per match?
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>>150197128
And all of that exists in tos and every other mmo?
All you're doing is simply letting your nostalgia goggles blind you.
This isn't even mentioning the moving of goalposts or the point being lost.
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>>150197513
>nostalgia goggles
nope, I'm still playing RO. You don't have to play just 1 MMORPG at a time, although it's recommended due to MMORPGs being huge timesinks
>goalposts moving
I'm not the guy you were replying to. I posted this because I found statement that is not true.
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>>150197141
also its actually b13>b13>n487>b13>b290>b13>b13>b13>b13

b13=talts
n487=Opal
b290=Gold Bar
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Rules of Arena (TBL):
Don't use dagger (it loses you 100 attack)
Don't use rapier (they don't have codes for rapiers so you gain zero attack)
Don't fucking stay in one place (snipe/etc.)
Don't fucking run into peoples meteors when its obvious they're doing one with the chargeup action of holding hands up
Don't fucking rush in as catagoon if you know the other team has a fucking pd
Learn to fucking use antidotes against wugu
If you're r5 than consider killing yourself
If you're a constant afker than consider killing yourself
NO MONKS
Kabatits>pd
sorc summons are imba due to fps issues so stop fighting them
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>>150197141
So wheres the datamined info?
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>>150197963
once it is complete, we opt to only capture and imgur it
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>>150194008
Sorry to bother you friend but I am relatively new yet see you every thread. What is /Ohayou/?
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i was lurking this thread during beta, is this still pay2win?
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>>150198520
>pay2win
this game was never pay2win outside rmt and if you're willing to go against the terms of service than thats your own issue
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>>150198520
imc is too dumb to figure out how to make this game p2w
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>>150198520
>still pay2win
never was
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>>150198520
You can whine about lots of things when related to this game but complaining that its pay2win is the furthest from the truth
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>>150196209
What stats are the most important for a dragoon? Should I go full str?
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would anyone consider taking rogue 1 instead of archer 2 to use sneak hit over swift step?
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>>150198520
if you want to pay to win just get some bots going
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>>150198520
M M O T A N K
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>>150198789
Full dex probably for PvP. Though since STR was buffed last patch I don't know.


>getting the same R5 swordsman two games in a row who deals 2k and 0 (zero) damage.
For what purpose.
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Guess is better to not let atleast this outsider in right Coffee?
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>>150198243
The most amazing guild ever!
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Why the fuck do squires of all people complain?
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>>150199385
I like that Squire

An useless Squire still a target so the real DPS don't die instantly
An useless archer is useless in every way
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>>150199514
What if I told you the squire was the last to die due to staying in the back and didn't have arrest?
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>>150199514
>An useless
>archer is useless
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>>150195474
Sky vodka claimed they own the word SKY, and sued them to remove the word SKY from their title.

Not sure if they won tho, they probably did since a alcohol company must have better lawyers than them.
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>>150199385
>5 millions a day
kek
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>>150177353
if you can't feed the hamster while it's growing it dies?
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>>150199758
Hello Games had been in legal negotiations with Sky plc over the trademark on the word "Sky" used for No Man's Sky, a trademark Sky had previously defended against Microsoft's choice of "Skydrive". The issue was ultimately settled in June 2016, allowing Hello Games to continue to use the name.
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>>150199932
If its hunger bar runs out, yeah.
It'll take around 18-20 hours without feeding for that to happen though.
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>>150198938
>Taobao wants to join CoffeeHouse
Please no
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>>150199630
It's okay new famalam, when you get a few more levels you'll see that 90% of the archer in this followed retard build that can't even DPS properly.
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>tfw just died by revenged 7x with ONE snowrolling tick

this game
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>>150199385
>squires
>making money
AHAHAHAHAH
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>>150199385
>this is how delusional your average squire is
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>>150200518
> Not wanting to make 100k an hour parking outside Earth tower.
Sure sucks to be a scrub.
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>>150200474
I die to revenged with one (one) fireball tick.
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>>150199373
Sounds like fun!
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>try 2v2 for faster points
>it's actually fucking slower than 5v5
Fucking hell someone should forbid swordsman from doing PvP.
>>
When does the story quest continue? I'm 218.
>>
>Dragon Soar still doesn't work
When will it end?
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>>150198938
Who?
>>
I'm a ToS -noob and I got a few questions:

Is it normal to get bugged out of quests when doing them in a party? Tried to play with my gf but every time theres a boss in a quest it seems to bug the fuck out and either one of us can't even see it or is stuck and can't move?

And also, do equipment affect the look of the character at all? I'm level 26 and I still look exactly the same as when I started.

These and the slow as fuck gameplay is pretty much killing the game for me. Do these get better or should I just drop it?
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Is there a way to go from the Klaipeda region to Orsha (Lemprasa Pond) without walking all the fucking way first?

I wanna get those low level quests done, just finished Crystal Mines 3F.
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>>150201256
drop
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>>150201327
You're cute!
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>>150201327
They sell town scrolls at item merchant
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>>150201327
buy orsha scroll from item merchant
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>>150201256
incase of the cutscene bug, make sure you are far away from your gf before starting it

only costumes affect your character's look, 1-100 is generally a slow experience, i like to say it gets better but if you already dont like it at that point youd probably drop it later
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>>150201256
Your outlook can only change with head costumes, class costumes and CP costumes. The speed of gameplay depends on how you play. If you cant handle grindy games then this is not for you.
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>>150201256
Drop immediately
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>>150201572
shit taste
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>Spontoon
>Rune Rod
>Caliburn

Where can I get the recipe for these for the collection?
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>>150201392
Y-you too.

>>150201396
>>150201471
Oh thanks, didn't know that!
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>>150201336
>>150201487
>>150201489

Bummer, I really wanted to like this game. The aesthetics and the controls and shit is pretty nice. Welp, I guess its back to not playing anything again.
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Revenged 7x is so retarded my god, I did a great opening with magnetic force and I almost died to the puny damage it does
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>>150199385
>He things revenues = profits
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>>150201087

Relax anon, Rapiers on arena gives 0 ATK

ZERO. Also, equipping a dagger reduces your damage.
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>>150201745
Wouldnt be so quick to give up. The game actually gets prett fun when you start to understand class mechanics and such. The maps also get more interesting after lvl 100. You should check some levelling guides. You really dont need to do all those tedious canyon maps and such.
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>>150175983
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>>150201660
There's literally a thread for all the storage collection recipes with their corresponding mob you noob

https://forum.treeofsavior.com/t/expand-team-storage-slots-guide-13-slots-trophy/316333
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>>150201656
I agree with Capy.
t. honorary CoffeeHouse member
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>>150175983
>>150202014
Yes kuni we know you have 2 hunter falconers, stop attention whoring already, you're getting worse than moonie.
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>>150201745
they were trolling, only >>150201487
>>150201943 are right

teh game is pretty slow, like really slow if you dont know what youre doing, but since youre here, might as well tell you, alternate Klaipedia and Orsha quests early, when you get to rose, continue that questline until you hit Novaha, then go back to klai until you reach tenet church, then back to novaha and finish that shi and you dont have to alternate anymore, finish tener church and you sohuld be able to do dungeons by then, 70+ is generally faster than the god awful 1-50
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>>150200161
A famous norme Fedimian Chrono3 guild hopper bad at playing Chrono3
>>
Noob question

Why would people repair their stuff at these player blacksmith stands when their price range (for my equipment) was between 3600 and 7000s (most of them 4500~5000) while the Blacksmith NPC only charged 628s?
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>>150202338
Wait til you get red 170 and 220 item level gear then you'l understand
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>>150202338
I think because it has a chance for upgrades, but not sure
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>>150202338
those 3600/7000s are constant while your repair charge from the blacksmith varies depending on the level of your equipment, ex, 220 eqps costs about 25k per repar from the blacksmith, shops stay at 7000
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>>150202338
Higher level equipment is much cheaper at player blacksmiths.
Paying 7000 silver instead of 15k silver is a good deal.
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>>150202338
Repairing for the Blacksmith NPC costs way higher on lategame. Using the player-owned repair stalls also gives you a chance to get higher durability (ex, 60/40 durability instead of 40/40)
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>>150202492
>>150202508
>>150202516
>>150202545
Oh so the price doesn't scale, I see. Got it.
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>>150202215
What new meme i missed?
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>thaiRO has Runescape tier numbers

Why are we playing this game again?
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Question about Simony: Are all Cleric classes buffs craftable by that?

I want to make a Pardoner and craft my own skill scrolls, but I'm still deciding which ones are worth getting from each class, so I can make most of them by myself.
>>
>>150202313
>>150202313
How you can be bad at pressing Pass hotkey?
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>>150202954
Not all cleric skills are craftable. Google the exact list.
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>>150202954
Daino and Barrier
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Why is 2 v 2 always full of invisible archers?

>>150202858

Because 555555 is fucking annoying.
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>>150202954
https://tos.neet.tv/skills?simony=1&f=1

This is the list of skills that can be crafted with Simony
>>
For PvP:
Cleric>Priest>Bokor2>Pardoner>Oracle>Kabba

Y/N
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>>150203351
>Press button, receive kills
I hope you shitters only bother with this arena thing for your daily point quota.
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Got a red veris gloves recipe nice

Where do i find regular veris gloves?

These are worth using right?
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>Sapper C2 quest still bugged
This is ridiculous.
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>>150203351
>lasts 10 secs
>deals shitload of damage
>knocks enemies back constantly
Meanwhile, Shield Charge...
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>>150204123
no timeframe on completion either
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>>150201572
This is probably the lowest we ever got.
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Just hit Monk!
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>>150203568
>Pardoner
Nope

There's a guy that has a build close to this. Cleric, Priest, Bokor3, Oracle, Kabbalist. Pretty good against people who can't resist/immune Hexing+Effigy combo.
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>>150204504
>Just hit Monk but I'm not gonna show you my tiddies!

Fuck off
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>>150204504
congratz
best wishes on your reroll
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>>150202858
>wanting to play with the ladybois

The current ladibois in the servers and in my own damn guild are bad enough
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>>150204605
this, show tiddies or gtfo
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>>150193632
>>150193151
>>150192915
Its been bugged since the last patch
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>>150202975
There are people that don't know how to keep themselves safe and use Pass.

I met such chrono 3 in ET before. He ran himself into the mobs at 1F, leading them away to fuck up our killing speed, and always pass when our CD is long over (we did ask for pass).
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>>150201752
>puny damage
The minimum damage you'll get from a reflect is 2.8k because it applies Blessing damage seven times :^)
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Any reason to do missions past 230?
Exp seems ass, unless it gets better later on, seems pretty useless.
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>>150197141
So based on character, your cube drops will either always suck or sometimes not suck?

DOes the cube list reset after maintenance?
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>>150205530
100k and 3mil exp for 10mins work, you're not going to be able to find any better
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>>150202338
1) Certain equipment requires a retarded number of kits compared to their NPC repair fee

2) Find an anvilfag who advertises 160 per kit. Remember the price they charge for each piece of gear, then compare it to Anna's. Choose who repairs what accordingly.
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>>150197804
>mfw my chaporaclekab can auto a ts 4 times and remove it from the fight for a while
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>>150205643
>10 minutes of work

each mission alone is minimum of 6 minutes or more because of retarded gimmicks
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>>150205793
>he actually plays during the 3mins torch
Also you should not be taking more than 30seconds each boss if not less than that unless you're a shitter playing a shit class in which case you have no-one to blame but yourself
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>>150204504
cuter than koenig
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>>150188250
what does it do anyway?
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>>150205995
nothing at all, its an armband
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>he rolled sadhu

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FPCrhT0q5Ns
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Check out my Swordsman buffs


Swordsman

-casting Gung ho now taunts 5 enemies
Highlander

-Using Skyliner three times in a row on a bleeding target cauterizes the wound and stops the bleeding debuff but target is unable to regain health by all means for four seconds

-Cartar Stroke now lets you teleport behind an enemy in a small aoe and strike enemies within the aoe for a maximum of 4 times

-Vertical Slash now deals bonus damage based on reduced defense in persentage (400 def reduced = 400% Vertical Slash damage)


Peltasa

-Swashbuckling reduces affected enemy's defense by 25%

Catapracht

-can now attack while using trot like a real cavalry (only has 180 aoe, meaning can only attack with your right side)

Barbarian

-Pouncing increases Frenzy stacks
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>>150206106
then what does it matter that it's untradeable?
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>>150204587
>>150203568
Pardoner would work to extend your debuffs but its better paired with PD than kab. Can discerning the big ol incinerate
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>>150206223

>teleport behind enemy

This can't be real

please let it be real
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>>150205942
Also, if you didn't hit lvl 280 by the time you talk to Knight Titas, you're shit.
And if you're not making 2 billion silver a day from anvilfagging, you're shit.
And if you don't have atom, lolipan, and kirito sucking your dick in gratitude for allowing them to live another day, you're shit.
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I wish I went Scout instead of Falconer. Those Scouts look like they're having so much fun cloaking while I have this bird who just glitches and freezes in midair when I tell it to do something.
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>>150206223
>Highlander
>Everything here is dumb
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>>150205643
>>150205793

I don't think I can eat that in 10 minutes alone. Maybe its better for some classes that can solo it, because partying feels horrible.
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>>150206223
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>>150205450

I meant magnetic force's puny damage (lv 1, low int, 0% attribute).
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>>150206223
>omnislash cartar stroke

FUCKING YES

IMAGINE THE REROLLS
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>>150206223
>-casting Gung ho now taunts 5 enemies
>be dps class
>gung ho
>lure stuff away from tank and die
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>>150206223
Move swash to swordsman1. Plain and simple to fix for you faggots on grind groups always asking PELT ONLY.
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>>150202283
That second one wasn't me.
I might fwee post, but I don't reply to myself and my new one is only level 48 anyways.
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When making a doppel is it more valuable to take a circle in pelt or highlander? I plan on going Barb3 doppel2.
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>>150206223
*teleports behind u*

psssh nothin' personnel kid.....
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>>150207128
Just make a card or subweapon that taunts enemies. No need to make it a skill.
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Anyone know off the top of their head which quest give level 120 weapons? The map is fine too.
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>>150207329
Highlander for damage. Pelt if you're a cuck.
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>>150206429
Atleast you are cute and have cute outfit.
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>Rolled A2R2F3 at launch.
Am I fucked?
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>>150208508
Just go Mergen.

>>150206429
>Scout instead of falconer
>r4 class instead of an r6 class
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>>150208714
The rank numbers don't really matter for those classes. Neither really does any damage, you just take them for utility.
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>>150177205
>assets ripped straight from ToS
>animations ripped off straight from another MMO, Dragon Nest

The chink plague rises
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anyone noticed that a lot of people disappeared from the adventure journal rankings?
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Where is the today's chest from west siauliai woods and the wandering npc? I walked the whole map already, including the seal area! Help!
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>>150209535
They haven't logged in
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>>150205989
Koenig is WAY cuter.
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Now to farm Varv skins...

How long does it usually take you guys to farm Beetleback mats?
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>>150209598
>beetleback

for what purpose? ledas shield is 10x better and easier to get
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>>150209598
>Farming Varv to make Beetleback
Don't waste your time Monk friend.
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What build do I play for fun as a new player. I don't want to reroll for a while.
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>>150209535
They're dead.
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>>150209598
dang gurl u qt u was sum fk bby?
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>>150209598
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>>150209598
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>>150209598
What server are you on?
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>>150209798
I have a difficult time queuing for that dungeon! It has been awful.

>>150209913
I'm sorry I have to decline but I hope we can still be friends!
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>>150209598
I was farming and gave up because I got a better shield, if you're on Klai I can give you 10 skins for free.
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Why are all Monk posters such attentionsluts?
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>>150210275
Getting stuck on your temple masturbating by yourself for so long does things to you.
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Where did cavemansome gone, i liked his monk build.
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>>150209598
expect about 3 hours. took me 1600 varv. you will want to clear the entire map in a circle, and dont server hop because you want to control the spawns.
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>>150210560
My SR has 4 so that'll definitely shave off some time for me. Thanks for the tip, since I have been channel surfing...

Wish me luck!

>>150210092
Small but comfy Orsha!
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>>150210919
>Orsha
lol
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I love Orshan girls, they're so exotic...
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>>150210919

Send Colyo a friend request if you want in Kotatsu, we still have a couple slots left.
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>use Snipe on someone
>nothing happens
Why the fuck is this ability an AOE, it's like a pixel wide.
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>>150211229

the struggle is real
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>>150211389
>dong for ants
>snipe for ants
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>>150211389
IS IS A STRUGGLE, ANTPOSTER

IT'S THE ONLY THING I CAN DO BEFORE RUNNING AROUND LIKE A HEADLESS CHICKEN OR TAKING A POTSHOT WITH COVERING FIRE AND IT NEVER WORKS
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>>150211229
try aiming at the feet
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any tips on farming a battle bracelet? i'm assuming its dpk?
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>>150212036
kill galoks
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>>150212024
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>>150212036
Galoks are found in tenet church 1F
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>>150212153
do they have random spawns? should i switch channels? etc.
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>>150210205
kay where u wanna meet up bby?
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>>150212278
DPK means switching channels is pointless.
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>>150212153
>>150212227
i'm not going to get a battle bracelet, am i.
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>>150212660
hope you're a cata and you don't get cucked
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>>150212640
from what i understand dpk isn't personal, so if theres someone else on the channel it doesn't reset. and its tenet 1f, theres no shortage of people.
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>>150212660
Run 130 dungeon solo full run thrice a day.
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can you trade colored contact lenses through team storage?
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>>150213150
yes
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>>150212791
yeah, i'm not fast enough for this. 1 galok in 10 minutes.

>>150213070
can we finally enter 130?
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>>150213070
how much silver is that with the new buff?
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>>150212036
Isn't it impossible to farm them now? They have a 30 minutes respawn time with this patch and their DPK is +/- 200
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>>150213815
Something like 250k per run
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>>150214138
No they don't
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>>150213324
>can we finally enter 130?
probably
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Why don't all the good pvpers join one guild?
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>>150215000
Because half of them hate each other.
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>>150215000
>good pvpers
u mena RMTers who play an OP class with 99% attributes?
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Rate my nigga
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>>150215078
Koenig please...
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>>150215000
Because we would be a guild of clerics and exploiter wizards.
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>>150210205
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>>150215193
would go into battle with/10
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>>150215329
sounds like FOE
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>>150214294
Yeah they do
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I'M GOING TO MAKE A FULL STRENGTH CATAGOON
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>>150215547
I forbid you from doing that anon
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>>150215193
>stupid ass crown with a red "Shoot me I'm an idiot" gem in the middle
>not a badass gilt helmet

0/10
wouldn't ride into battle with
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>>150175906
but it's currently highly underpowered...
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>>150210205
Back off hoe! You'll never replace Koenig!
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>>150215603
But STR is good now, LoliPan said so
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>>150206223

>mfw my purchase of the HL3 will be justified
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They need to increase the battle league times

This is fucking stupid
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So if I wanted to make a PVP cleric, what sort of options would I have?

Would I go Cleric 2 > Diev 3 > Oracle 1 > Plague Doctor 1?

Or Cleric 2 > Diev 3 > Oracle 1 > Druid 1?

Or Cleric 2 > Diev 3 > Druid 2?

I'm not sure.
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>>150216097
>>150216097
We need capture the flag and other games pvp, open at all times

Just for fun and little rewards
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Is there a exp penalty for killing higher level monsters?
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>>150216417
why would you ignore priest entirely? Priest is so fucking annoying to go against.

>resurrection
>revive
>stoneskin
>blessing for QS3
>mass heal

Cleric probably has the most potential for PvP builds
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>>150216626
yes but theres no penalty for a higher level guy killing monsters your level
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>>150216417
Kabbatits
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>>150216543
>desynced cata runs in
>nabs the flag
>match ends

Fuck the PvP in general.
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>>150216678

I mean, I'm not so much ignoring it. I am, in fact, openly asking for suggestions.
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>>150215070
>>150215329
Well Tosg is fucked in gvg then .
It's to bad we could have a good team
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>>150216725
at least they would be useful for something
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>>150216687
>>150216626
woops, if you're partied with a guy like 100 levels higher than you*, you wont lose exp if he helps you farm monsters your level which is how power leveling works
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>>150216719

Not entirely sure how this class works.
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>>150216797
GvG is literal shit with how it is currently though.
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>>150216417
The first one but drop cleric 2 for Priest
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>Enter your team name
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>>150217164
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Random
use this
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>>150216964

It's fun and gives a ton of free TP.

The spawn camping is lame yes but good, well coordinated teams aren't pushed to spawn easily.
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>>150217335
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_of_Utrecht
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>>150217639
>well coordinated
wake up nerd, it's not about coordination. Did you not see how much of a mess gvg is? It's all about having the right cheesy classes (cc, nuke, anti-cc) with the right amount of rmted money poured into attribs.
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Does Crimson have a lot of cute girls (female)?
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instead of turning off pvp because of muh bots the only thing you have to do is not give rewards outside of those hours

I just want to play the fucking pvp, piece of shit game holy shit fuck you IMC
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>>150217335
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Let_Your_Body_Die

Appropriate.
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>>150218080
Moesaki
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>>150218080

Yup
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>>150217639
>Gear has a heavy effect
>Levels aren't adjusted
>Attributes
The spawn camping is just the icing on the cake.
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>>150217335
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Romancing_Star
jackpot
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>it's another "someone is convcined that this is a p2w game and endlessly bitches about rmt" episode
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>>150217639
>ton of free TP
isn't the prize only for the leader? and for the top 5 or some shit? I doubt anyone here is going to get some of that
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>archers running around in arena with manamana off hand
>when arena has equalized equipment meaning manamana doesn't give any stats at all and equipping a shield would be better off
kek
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>>150218658
I don't know why you'd play an MMO if you don't want people to be able to grind items and silver for an advantage, that's always been part of the fun. Anyone that expects to be a Fediminian Pit Fighter and be successful shouldn't be playing this genre at all.
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>>150219498
>I don't know why you'd play an MMO if you don't want people to be able to grind items and silver for an advantage, that's always been part of the fun.
Yeah, for PvE and OW PvP.
Not organized PvP, that should be entirely on your build and skill, not how much you've grinded or how much you swiped that credit card.
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>>150219716
Move to a different game then, you want to play MOBAS, not MMORPG.

It's exactly what you said.
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>>150219258

The leader gets a bunch of 100TP chests which they then distribute to their guild members. I imagine if the leader is a scumbag about it the guild won't last long.
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>>150220276
I thought they were 10TP chests.
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>>150219716
Agree to disagree then. I don't play MMORPGs for complex pvp, I play them because I like making progress and collecting rare items to make my guy stronger. PvP is just a game you play where you get to have fun and show off all the cool stuff you worked to gather. PvE and PvP are interlocking systems.

If you only want to play PvP as a pure demonstration of reflexes/skill/strategy and not dedication try Mobas/FPS/Fightan/any other genre.
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>I like playing swordies and archers
>enjoy the comfy (solo) grinding in later maps
>dislike wizards, but want to be credit to team and guild
Is cleric2 krivis3 druid2 good in that scenario? Is there a good Krivis build for that, or should I just go diev/priest into r7?
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I want to PVE Flecther into Mergen, pure Dex, bow only, final destination.
https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#31144bbb.1a23354a5161.1a2a4a.1a2f34415a65
Is this how you maximize dps or do I need to go Barbed instead of Broadhead, also Crossfire only 1 right? Since we're getting a lot of Aoe with Mergen.
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>>150220665

Diev and Druid have some interesting interactions with Carve Attack.
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>>150220246
>You don't like this aspect, then go play this entirely different genre of game
It's funny how easy it is to spot the people who either no-life or RMT and are afraid of losing their advantages over more skilled players.

>>150220657
OW PvP exists, dueling exists. No one cares about your shit in organized fighting.
No one is going to sit there taking the time to inspect your gear during a fight, especially in a game where you can't visually see anything that isn't a costume.
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>>150220920
>skilled players

Hi dvine
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>>150221117
>Shitter who lives to autism grind and then afks in arena
>Skilled player
Walking around with an oracle trying to grief anyone who enters your channel is not gameplay, nor is it a sign of being a skilled player.
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>>150220904
How so? I really wanted to go the Krivis route, wouldn't the Meltis meme with Ausrine/good buffs in general be decent?
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>>150220920
>This aspect of the game is just where the WHOLE game revolves into

huuur

PvPfags are so delusional, thank god PvP here will always be a joke so I don't have to see those 11 League/DOTA kids around
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>>150221573
> I suck at PvP so I'll call all of them delusional.
Nice ebin spacing.
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until what lvl is Storage good or 'decent' ?
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Is druid all around good for PVE and PVP?
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Tree of Savior is the LAST game I'd expect a competitive PvP scene from. Hilariously poor balancing aside it's just a mess of low framerate and desync that makes it unenjoyable even when I'm winning.

I'm hoping they just add tons of new missions and dungeons instead of focusing on this any more.
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>>150221573
How can someone be this sad

How can I avoid becoming like this, /tosg?
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>>150221916
XP penalties kick in at 271 I'm pretty sure, then you pretty much have to do Maven.

>>150221935
Druid is the strongest cleric class for PvE and a solid class for PvP but not the best imo.
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PvPfriends, PvEfriends and ERPfriends! Stop this petty infighting at once. We are all I unwitting allies against the forces of dedgaem and it will do us no good to bicker and argue about whose way of life is 'correct.'
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>>150221940
>even when I'm winning
Even when you are getting carried, you mean, pvebaby
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>>150222057

So if I were to go something like...

Cleric 2 > Diev 3 > Druid 2

I would do reasonably well in both PVE and PVP?

Maybe even Cleric 2 > Diev 3 > Oracle 1 > Druid 1?
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>>150221935
wait for the r8 announcement before taking druid, at least for druid2

both PD and kaba are super defensive in pvp, oracle as well

take drood if you're mostly going to solo, 1 rank in druid is alright for murder plants, but circle 2 sacrifices a bunch of potential

although we never know what bugged transformations we might get in the next content update
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>>150222375
I would go for Druid 2 because Stera Troph is an extremely strong skill. Cleric 2 Diev 3 Druid 2 is pretty much the cookie cutter and with owls+carnivory+Panto haste it is even competitive at world bossing.
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>>150222858

Thank you, friend.

I got to level 162 on my Cleric 2 > Priest 3 > Krivis 1 > Plague Doctor 1 before I realized that making a full support as my first character was an incredibly poor idea.

I also regret taking Krivis. I did it for Daino, but the more I think about it the more I wish I would have went Cleric 2 > Priest 3 > Oracle 1 > Plague Doctor.
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>>150223180
JUST LIKE KOENEGRO DAMAGE
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>>150221321
>skilled player
you're shit at this game and a random sore loser who never did anything. you can't even figure out how to make money or gain an advantage in an mmorpg but wanna pretend you're good at something? really clown material. i set out to accomplish my goals while you're crying about pvp imbalance in this joke of a game. you can't even 20 fps and you're worried about pvp balance? you're terrible at everything.
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>>150223180
>>150223375
>3
>koenig eventually gets tired of the bullying and joins futureproof
>bot acts like he doesn't care and doesn't want him around but secretly keeps an eye on him
>rance rolls a monk so he can better understand koenig
>they train together every day for a week
>he finally gets the montage he wanted
>koenig comes out not only prepared for battle but confident and proud
>he queues for tbl
>gets 30 damage instead of 3
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>>150223270
Calm down, man. It's just ghost in the shell.
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>>150223180
Unfortunately that battle pretty much confirmed what everybody already knew, Futureproof has a strong handful of core players and a shitload of casuals that hate grinding. In open world pvp when it's that core against the other guild's members that happen to be online and bother to show up futureproof can be competitive, when it's organized ahead of time FP just doesn't have enough strong members to compete.
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does the compy lua hacker crew have a illegal hack addon to make other non-leader ppl invite ppl to guild?
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>>150223556
I think this may honestly be a pretty accurate assessment. Anyone who thinks FutureProof doesn't have a few really really good players is deluding themselves but they just don't have the numbers to support the stars of the show, so in open world you've got a pack of kings who can stomp but in GBL they just can't beat the numbers game. It's a leadership problem.
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>>150221916
267.
After that you'll be more than 5 levels above Nuos, the main mob there.
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>>150223180
So this is why people started shitting over organised PvP. Fair fights are shit because you are bad and can't win them and you only have fun when you win and the only way you can "win" is when you pick off lowbies queueing for dungeons.
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>>150224049
>gvg
>organized
>>
I'm currently a Cleric 1 Priest 3 Krivis 1 and realized I no longer want to complete my build and be a full support. Can I just take my last two ranks in Pardoner and be an AFK happy merchant and go on to a character I actually want to play?
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>>150224049
t. person who has never tried gbl
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>Everybody talking about Cleric2>Diev3>Druid2
>Someone said that I should take Krivis instead of diev because Diev is was weak and useless
>Krivis sucks

I'll never hear tosg again
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>>150224241
>others can win
>we can't win so it's unfair
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>>150224241
>spawn camping league
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REMINDER
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>>150224502
>Blessing +34
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>>150224394
But my guild has literally never lost a match. I'm just fully aware that it's a terrible joke and possibly the worst representation of "fair" PVP in this video game.
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>>150224502
>buff icons are not pizzas
Anon please
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>>150224328
well at least you learn your lesson
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>>150224328
tosg has maybe 2 trustworthy people and theyre the people that say over and over again that they have no idea what theyre doing and to ask other people
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List arena worth fear:

Ignition (burning)
Audra (freezing frost cloud)
cafrisun (+1 stats, extra for blessing jump autos and leather armor cut Snipe damage in half)
Aias
+1/+2 skill weapons (hunter, fencer, cryo, pyro, reiter, durandal)

2 handed weapons gives you more damage
dagger is useless if you're not corsair
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which guilds accept lowly level 50s. i was so used to vg guilds accepting anyone from vg on other mmos, but it seems a bit DIFFERENT HERE.
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>>150225051
almost all do

ask a leader, see OP
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>orshas cancer guild is outranking klais cancer guild

i dont know how i feel about this
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>>150225017
+skill level effects work?

So if I'm a hoplite, should I be using the spear that gives +1 to hoplite skills instead of my brandish?
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>>150225161
no they dont. first question i got from futureproof was "what level". thats why im asking.
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>>150224670
gbl is more fair than tbl. you don't get rank 5 highlanders while the other team has clerics and you're shit out of luck. you decide who comes or not since it's premade and all your items matter since guilds are suppose to work together and gear each other.

futurepoof was shitposting about how bad f.o.e is while they took their bruises and lost fairly but when they get their head stomped in suddenly gbl is unfair? pathetic.
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Should I use anything for hat 1 slot, or am I cute enough with just bunny ears?
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>>150225051
Most guild accept anyone, only the bad ones have requirements.
IE. Guild only inviting cyrochronos so you can carry them in PvP matches.
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>>150225017
When I first got tagged with Ignition I was really surprised at how effective it was. Had to back off and play defensive while I potted up.

I disagree with cafrisun. tos.neet.tv shows both Cannon Blast and Snipe being Pierce, which last I checked does not cut snipe damage in half, it doubles it. http://wiki.tosbase.com/wiki/Damage_Type
>Stab (Pierce)
>Deals 50% additional damage against leather armor.

What about Aias applies? There was a meme that sage wall mdef applies but it doesn't, I tested and disproved that myself.
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>>150225308
yeah, not all.
some are try hard guild battle now. or are full.

but like half of them dont care about your lvls.
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>>150225308
Yeah that's because they need to do something to win before all their members futurepoof to other guilds like Hat and Evergarden
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>>150225383
t. person who has both never played gbl AND never played tbl
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If we just made an all star guild for gvg out of all our best players we could easily stomp even Crimson you know

why can't we just unite?
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>>150225473
oh i c. i just didnt want to keep messaging leaders only to have them all be like fuck off until i end up in some dead shitty one with 2 active people
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>>150225308
>>150225051
maybe add (Full/Open) and (no req/ xy req) into OP after guildnames?
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>>150225732
Reporting in to second this
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>>150225194

Yeah
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>>150225051
Database whisper Cattly
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>>150225465
As far as I can tell anything that doesn't have a green arrow next to it applies as far as GBL is concerned, so I would guess that the percent chance to halve damage is applied.

I would guess that you could also use Venom to poison somebody and Cripple to lower somebody's movespeed as well. I've confirmed that Vubbe Morningstar's stun effect works and the lack of a green arrow seems to be consistent among what works and what doesn't.
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>>150225465

aias has the 8% chance thing, maybe venom works and Shark Cutter works too
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>>150225732
would be helpful. honestly its kinda fucked to call urself a tosg guild and then accept randoms over actual vg players b/c they are higher level. like i get thats needed to own people in pvp but at least specify its a mixed guild then.
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>>150225672
dvine hates lolipan but rance seems to feel obligated to stay in fp or he would have left already
karga runs clover which means for him to switch it would kill an entire tosg guild
patsch is a shameless exploiter which means any guild he joins has to be ok with that
bot rubs people the wrong way
cats is an attention whore and also rubs people the wrong way
demon doesnt seem to want to join any guild at all
idk about korasai, probably fine or wants to join foe to be with evergarden
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>>150224328

To be fair, any Diev Druid stuff you're hearing right now is likely just me talking because that's what I'm making and asking a lot of questions about it.
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>>150225405
I've been using only the bunny ears since the first time I got them!
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>>150225912
Is this guy serious?
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>>150198520
yes, but it could be much worse and with imc it will probably get there in 2 years
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would you?
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>>150225672
This desu.

Imagine a guild with Demon, Bot, Rance, Cats, Korasai, Worstwaifu, Kayori, Yukinina, Patsch, Karga, etc.

We need a savior to come forward and bring everyone together.
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>>150226409
>racism
>makes up 90% or more of /pol/ posts
I suspect he isn't.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2lAP5oR2WLU


>mobile tree of savior has less FPS issues

my fucking sides
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>>150226118
>he doesn't like bot or cats
they're nice people
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>>150226118
>Putting Cats in any all star list

Can we stop Cats makes hilarious OC and he's very nice and a cool dude but the "Cats is a good pvper" meme has gotten out of hand he's just a freshly r7 elememelock that likes to run at players with dark theurge in duels.
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>>150225308
Kek

They fill up with level 1 fags for months, the thread bitches about how they should set requirements, they finally do, and a week later this happens.
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>>150225732
and if its getting to long
>remove ktos and translation info
or/and just throw all guild guilds into a pastebin

have more sorc tiddies
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I want to make a sorc, but I can't choose
male or female? I love lewd pantsu, but there's not that many leathermans right?
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>>150226118
>karga runs clover which means for him to switch it would kill an entire tosg guild
It's nice that all your characters are automatically in a guild but it also sucks since you can't have alts helping other guilds. Anyhow, guild leadership is now transferable but you need a 'throwaway' account.
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>>150226573
i like cats but hes a fucking attentionwhore, hes a mia tier avatarfag. idk about bot i just know everyone says he an ass

>>150226638
youre really dumb, cats has made it to top 10 on 2v2 which means hes as good as anyone else in this general. in b4 "lel 2v2" fuck off people can play whatever mode they want
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>>150226708
male sorc is disgusting why would you even consider that
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>>150226779
What would be the point of having a dead guild leader
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>>150226523
>We need a savior to come forward and bring everyone together.
>and bring everyone together.
not gonna work. ever

>ppl dislike or fucking hate eachother
classic vg
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>>150226783
>inb4 lel 2v2

Uh yes lel 2v2 it's even more unbalanced than 5v5 and inherently far less competitive because fewer people are playing it.
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>>150226789
because I want to have a legit straight character that can hit on qt girls and be their sugar daddy
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>>150226935
People in that list hate eachother? I'm in that list and like every single person listed.
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>>150225383
> Nobody could possibly say anything I don't like except that one guild I'm obsessed with!
Why does foe have such a hardon for futurecucks?
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>>150226523
Half of these aren't even good pvpers
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highdopple or barbdopple
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So who is superior
5v5 noblemen
or
2v2 peasants
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>>150227293
>the queue literally filled with "just want my points sorry" afkers and transpose exploiters
>noblemen
i dont like 2vs2 either but this is just misleading
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>>150227293
The problem with 2v2 few people queue up for it so it's easy to get in the top rankings
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>>150226954
>less competitive
i love this meme. in 2v2 all the most popular cheese in 5v5 doesn't work so you all stick to 5v5. full con link1/sorc1 is amazing in 5v5 but it's shit in 1v1 or 2v2.
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>>150227293
>5vs5
>full of r5 monks, barbs and squires

>2vs2
>full of patricians like Cats and Rance

pick one pair

t. not Cats
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>>150226989

So you want to hit on guys and be their sugar daddy? That doesn't sound very straight to me.
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>>150227631
>rance
>patrician
I picture old man Rance as sitting at his desk sipping wine and listening to classical music waiting for his queue to finish. He has a chess board on one side and occasionally Cats will pass by and move one of the pieces, and Rance will compliment him on his foresight, and Cats will remind him that he needs to go milk his cow after TBL is over.
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>>150226917
The templar class itself doesn't have a lot of benefits and the perks of having a guild don't tie strictly to it (beside the skills). Having an account which is just the Templar allows more flexibility, that may change with circle 2 though.
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What stats should I go for as an archer if I want to do a bit of arena and mostly focus on PvE? I'm still deciding on class selections.
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>>150227830
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>>150227830
>old man Rance
rude
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>>150228136
full/high str wugu is really strong in pvp and decent pve, provided you don't run into a kabbalist in pvp. high dex fletcher is mediocre pvp and great pve, high str fletcher is good pvp and pve.
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Are you ready to make the ultimate Mergen build?
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i checked the pastebin and the faq and cant seem to find an answer. does anyone have any problems using an xbox 360 gamepad? i read that it should work but it doesnt seem to be detecting mine.
it works fine for every other game.
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>>150228528
i'll probably make a mergen, but it won't be high dex. why is he adding 26 str at all?
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>>150228528
If only I was autistic 15 y/o boy to write this.
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Evergarden...
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>>150225405
hey what gives
you look cute tho
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>>150227830
Take a shower.
Hit the weights.
Get a clue.
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>>150228883
I've been to Rance's manor and can confirm most of that is accurate except that he drinks champaign and not wine.
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>>150228872
Traitor....
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>>150229037
>evergarden let futurepoof members leech while they offered him nothing ever
>call him a traitor while never doing anything for him
futurepoof ladies and gentlemen. avoid like the plague
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>>150229268
Give it a rest, dvine. We get it, you felt underappreciated and think Lolipan is a scam artist.
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Is there a point maxing divine machine arrow? Any experience from high level fletchers?
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>>150229559
It's good for burst damage, and its fun in pvp
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>>150229559
Tbl
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How hard are Red Truffles supposed to hit? I have 569 defense, am lvl 216 and they're hitting me for 900+.
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>>150229268
>leeching
Play the game instead.
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>>150229037
The only ex-FP that could even be considered a traitor is dvine.
Alysse, Kinte, Evergarden, Hat have all left the guild and eventually joined others, but they never (publicly) trash talked their previous guild or mindlessly shitposted in the thread over some retarded teenage-having-menstrual-cramps feud with Lolipedro or held grudges against their former guild mates.
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>>150229801
they do strike damage so it does 50% more to plate
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>>150227127
Each of them have been in the top 10 in 5v5 or 2v2 or even in the top 10 for both.
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>>150229801
Are you in plate?
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Evergarden stop attentionwhoring, at least for a day

it's getting old, and pretty obvious
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>>150229801
they hit defenseless targets for 3.5k+
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>>150228136
Fletcher full STR
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>>150197141
this would mean that every mob has a predetermined drop the moment they spawn, and that explains how oracle skill works, it only shows those drops assigned to the mob, they arent calculated after its killed
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2v2 is more imbalanced than 5v5, but at the same time it's better for people who are actually good because you'll only get 1 deadweight retard at worst and then 1v2, as opposed to 1v5ing at worst in 5v5 if you have useless faggots. Also afkers/altshits tend to queue 5v5 as well. Pick your poison.
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>>150229869
>>150229973
>>150230054
I have plate top/pants and leather gloves/boots.
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>>150229268
i appreciated the bee farmers, i didn't make a lot of use of them though
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>>150230256
Your top determines your armor type.
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>>150226523
Worstwaifu is terrible though.
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>>150230256
That means you're plate. It is completely determined by top.
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>>150229801
get more defense. they hit me for 1.
and get more levels if you are lower than them.
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>>150229427
>felt underappreciated
i think you're valuing your appreciation too much. i didn't expect shit outside of a wardec from the guild. i just despise some guy named pedropan tried to use me to carry his guild while never doing shit for anybody and thinking he can ask me for money while he couldn't be bothered to help me quest cause it'd cost him 5 minutes of his time.
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>>150230256
>top
Swap that one to leather and see what happens.
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>>150197141
wouldn't dpk be real in this case for monster drops then? the actual number is just determined semi-randomly when the map is reset.
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What's Atom-sama's TBL ranking?
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>>150198798
sneak hit isn't very reliable, maybe on a full str build, but that loses multishot 10 for sneak hit
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>>150197141
>tfw born into shit luck IRL
>tfw born into shit luck in a fucking gook MMO
JUST
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is linker 3>sorc2 full CON a good build?
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>>150230881
It works but it really doesn't give you many options. Link3 sorc2 means you don't have Wiz3. While this isn't exactly a problem for Sorc, it does mean you don't have many options for later.

I assume you're stacking cryo on c2 so... it's pretty good for 5v5 TBL, but I think that's about it.
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do pets pick up loot for you?
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>>150231658
Nope, neither your hoglan nor your summons do this.

t. ex bee mafia on witness relocation program
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>>150231742
you won't escape. we'll find you
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>>150231658
Templeshooter will with Hold
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So Crafisun being good in pvp is a meme or not?


I have 200 DEX, with full Leather and 50 leather mastery will I dodge those pesky archers?
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>>150232103
Evasion is quite reliable in PVP, but I really don't agree with cafrisun being worth the tons of evasion you'd get from equipping high level boots instead.
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>>150232202
I thought all gear had the same stats regardless of level tier in team battle league
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>>150232430
Doesn't matter because you're a oneshot for the first wizard or cleric that notices you anyway.
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>>150232562
I play 2v2, I obviously have all three sets prepared
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>>150232635
>sets
This changes absolutely nothing. If you have 200 DEX you're a oneshot because you have archer HP and shit CON.
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>>150231573
what do you mean for later? like c9 or something?
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>>150232741
I'm a swordman and I never got one-shotted by magic
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>>150232103
>pvp
>without at least half CON
dont even bother
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>>150232430
It won't be in less than a month, if we follow kTOS' schedule.
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>>150232889
you will once you actually go into the tbl, pve is nothing like pvp
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>>150233028
I'm talking about PvP
Literally the only thing that gives me trouble at archers
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>>150232889
t. person has never been in TBL

I tried to go 1:1 with a bit of dex and oneshot by every flesh cannon and pole of agony that touches me.
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>>150233028
>>150233163
t. non-rodeleros
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>>150233163
Well that didn't happen to me at all, I'm sorry for you I guess
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>>150233124
We found him boys. We found the swordsman that survives Flesh Cannon. The mistake everyone else was making was putting too much into con! We merely had to put in tons of dex! Genius!
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>>150233340
Anon, nobody is a rodelero except Lolipan and this guy isn't Lolipan or he'd be blogging with an image of his character doing a pose with his stats and skills open.
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I just finished all of the royal mausoleum floors but didnt find this collection:
http://www.tosbase.com/database/collections/106/
Anyone knows where it is ?
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>>150233484
I have 110 con and full cloth against mages, I only got hit by flesh cannon like twice and both times I survived

Maybe they were terrible necros or something
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When I look at builds for druids, I see people only putting Safety Zone at 4 and maxing cure.

Why?
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>>150233847
muh dps
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>>150233847
Damage
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>>150232741

I have 200 dex, 25 con and 25k as a sword lv 200 arena

I'm not defending this build but swords can manage to stay relevant without much con on 2x2 at least

iron hook is OP as kino
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>>150233915
>>150233921

Huh. Ok. I mean it makes sense, it just seems like Safety Zone is really good. I guess attributes can make up for only having it at level 4?
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>>150232103
does cafrisun even apply in pvp?
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If the enemy puts down a safety zone in TBL and you stand in it do you get the benefit?
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Where to grind as a non-peltasta swordman lvl 249?
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>>150234270
card to 250 251 252
then storage
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>>150234197
nope
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>>150233847

cleric 2 attribute gives you more blocks than the lv 15 skill etc


and cure hits hard as fuck, it scales from matk and INT, so a 500 int cure from a 1200 matk druid lv 50 attribute (cheap as fuck since it's a r1 skill) dps is MASSIVE
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how do you pronounce alemeth?
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>>150234539
tfw i accidentally put 5 in safety zone and won't be able to max cure
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>>150234641
ALE METH
ala meth
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So, besides hyphens and underscores, which other characters are accepted in names?

Apostrophes don't work in my testing, and, very unfortunately, neither do spaces. I wanted to make a triple name like Knight of Fortune, something containing either "of" or "the" in the middle.
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>>150234759
periods?
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>develop a crush in early access
>pretty quiet, minds his own business
>even get in a couple of his parties
>he out levels me
>he rerolls and does it again
>less and less drive to play
>now half of tosg have quit and everyone knows him
>he probably doesnt even remember me
i think its time to go... its been fun tosg... kinda...
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>>150234659
Nobody knows it but I moved 2 points from divine might into cure, kek
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>>150234913
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>>150234759
>crying rance
I want to protect that shark tooth smile.
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>>150234913

>crush

reported
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>>150234909
Nope! "You cannot create this character". Same with apostrophes as in Al'Azif.

Anyone else tested this?

>>150235107
>>
can you zoomy + siege burst the enemy spawn point in TBL?
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pvp when
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>>150235196
this is why zoomy is banned
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>>150234641
ALL METH
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>>150235296
It's not banned though.
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>>150234641
allah meth
>>
wtf, pvp is supposed to start now or I just lost it
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>>150187169
>schwarzer reiter
>doesn't reit
>>
Did bees really get nerfed? That was my favorite place to grind and level up.
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>>150187169
>necromancer
>not romantic at all
fuck off dvine
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>play 2v2 as a shinobi
>your partner quits because you are a shinobi
>win 1v2 anyway
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>>150234539

Ah, thanks.

So Cleric 2 > Diev 3 > Druid 2 will be fine, I assume?

Or should I have went Cleric 1 > Priest 1 > Diev 3 > Druid 2?
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>>150197141
Runescape does the same thing, so I'm not really surprised
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>>150235914
Likes:
Soft, winged things with stingers.
Candlelight rituals after dinner.
Long walks through the crypt.
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>>150235914
necrophilia isn't wrong. i'm totally okay with romance
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>>150206329
It will be super rare in the future!

If this game even managed to survive a year
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NO, BOWFAG, I CAN'T AND WON'T FOLLOW YOU AS IF JOINED TO YOU AT THE HIP.
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>>150236298
>rance posts ainz
>dvine posts albedo
s-shipped...?
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>>150236414
Rance is already shipped with his cow.
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>>150236414
I finally got Cats to start watching Overlord. I wish there was some kind of skull head accessory/hairstyle like the chicken head.
>>
Tell us again about your 100% flash can.
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>try to pvp
>get solod by a salamion
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>>150234270
time to grind up that knife, slit your throat and reroll
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>>150236820
Okay anon, I'm not trying to make fun of you, but this sounds awesome. Is there a story behind it? Some chain of CC in which it slowly and embarrassingly whittled you down or something?
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>>150236926
>slowly
it chased me down and killed me in like 4 hits
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>>150237246
Are you a monk?
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>>150236820
I want this drawn.

Are you like a rank 5 Archer with 6k HP vs a 280 salamion?
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>>150224502
Thank you for reminding them while I was asleep.

>>150226118
Lots of people really like me though. So, I think that's sort of opinion.

>>150226523
Rance and I will be in the same guild anyway, this was our original goal anyway.

>>150226573
Thank you, and yes.

>>150226638
It would be fun to have a duel, or do world pvp. Let me know who you are and we can practice for fun.

>>150226783
Come visit me in Fedi pits. I'm pretty nice actually. Not sure where this meme that cats is an ass originated.

>>150227631
That was not me I've been catnapping.

>>150227830
I was worried I was on tilt before PvP so it was actually me who was listening to classical italian dinner music and drinking wine to make sure I was relaxing. Rance had some, said it was good.

>>150236745
I'm not sure who to waifu in this show yet. Good tho.
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>>150233609
Anyone could help me ?
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What's the TBL soundtrack called? It's pretty great.
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>>150237851
Look it up on tosgbase you lazy fuck.
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>tell bird to do something very important
>it spreads its wings and freezes for 20 seconds
>this happens all the time

I HATE IT
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>>150237398
>>150237570
i'm a c5 necro with 6k hp
>>
pedro's just doing 2v2s now?
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>>150237704
>There's an attention whore worse than Cattly
Now I've seen everything
>>
>>150229801
651 ~ 800
Means you need around 800+ def to take consistent 1s.

With aspersion + full plate + shield, its easily achievable
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>>150237940
>c5 necro
This is literally not possible.
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>>150238080

pre necro maybe
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>>150238080
It was back in iCBT, so who knows...
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>>150238080
i thought first circle was like the middle square in bingo
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>>150238456
There are 7 ranks in this game, starting class being rank 1. Each class has up to 3 circles.
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>>150236414
ainz is a filthy rich whale who spends money like water and doesn't have a budget. i plan to be the richest necromancer on the server long as i play.

>>150236769
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ok1FcXbkaj0
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>play 2v2

>enemy team
>two rank 7s

>my team
>a rank 5
>two times in a row
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>>150238718
Why do they even let shitters in pvp, IMC is retarded
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>>150238539
that makes me a c6 necro then.
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https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#31144bbb.1a23354a5161.1a4a.1a2f455a65
Help with fletcher? I don't know how to skill this at all.
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>>150238882
yeah you should at least be level 200 to queue
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>it's a "you get shit teammates" day
From 1100 to 1020, nice game.
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>>150238974
No it makes you r6 necro c1
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>>150237940
>>150237246
t. dvine
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>>150239107
>me ooga, team booga
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>rance worked at a daycare when he was younger
So that's how he puts up with all of you. It all makes sense now.
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>decided to farm 2x2 for ez points with 3 alts
>3 chars into the top 100

kek
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>>150239425
>Rance is the perfect husbando, perfect daddy and perfect PvPer
is there anything Rance can't do?
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>>150239659
Bring Ed's mom back to life
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>>150239107
>wiz goes from 1050 to 1100
>archer goes from 900 to 850
seems like it's working as intended to me
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>>150239742
delete this
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>>150239659
He can't stop being namedropped.
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>>150239107
Druid went from 1140 to 1120
Kino 1070 to 1090
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>>150237927
>tell birb thing is important
>based birb does not give a fuck
All fwee players are betas.
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How do you guys even manage to rank high

I'm always the MVP of my team but every single time I lose

My team is always rank 5 shitters, doesn't matter if it's 5v5 or 2v2

What the fuck am I supposed to do
>>
>>150238718
>play 2v2
>their team
>double daga
>our team
>c5 monks
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>>150237927
>>150240179
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>>150240220
There's a mentality you have to adopt and I'm pretty sure most of the 5v5 players already have.

Every slot in the game has a chance to be filled with a unskilled or low level player. Sometimes, every person on your team will be one except you, if you're not a leveled and pretty good. But because that means there's only 5 slots on the enemy team and 4 slots on yours, statistically if you play enough and are pretty good you will rise.

There's a lot more to it, but basically, get into the mindset of "I can only control me" and try to figure out what you could do better. Don't conclude "my team was bad" and accept that as a reason for a loss. Instead look at it as "My team was bad, but if I hadn't whiffed that Magnetic Skill early on, and I didn't get separated by the Cata, maybe I could have fixed it."
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Passive block is the most retarded thing in this game
>>
>>150240220
Luck. My shitty R5 sword got carried to 1100, while my PvP build is at sub 900.
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>>150239925
>namedrop
>people are mentioning his life story randomly
piece it together
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RANKED 1 VS 1 DUELS WHEN IMC

>>150240507
Maybe in a moba this would be good advice, because it depends on the skills of the players
But here it's just pointless, the problem isn't that your team is not skilled, the problem is that your team isn't even fucking rank 7. There is quite literally nothing you could have done to prevent your loss
>>
>>150240785
>1v1
CC the game. Whoever stunlocks enemy first, wins. With exception of Scout Muskets/Cannons.
>>
is it even to possible to join team battle alone. just like daily dungeon
>>
>>150240785
>MF
>Teleport
>Raise
>PP
>you're dead
>>
>>150240773
>he's not in the Klaipeda meme whisper
Wasn't randomly.
>>
>>150240915
>>150240951
Nothing wrong with that, if you can't handle you can just go play the other modes.

At this this gives players tired of the shitty matchmaking something to have fun with.
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>>150240614
literally forced50
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So, lv 2 abrasives gives this much exp...

Just got 3 (1 each character) oh baby, that's delicious
>>
>>150240507
t. linker abuser
>>
>>150240785
t. fedi pit fighter
>>
>>150241009
In other words, you rolled a meme instant disable kill build but you're too slow/shit to handle more than 1 person at a time. smdh tbqh
>>
Stat allocation for a diev druid should be what? 1 con: 3 int?
>>
>>150241191
>>150241227
I'm a fucking memenobi, I just want to stun people with restrain and throws kunais

stop the memes
>>
>>150241346
whats wrong with 2vs2 then? just have your partner be bait
>>
>>150241346
In that case you'll just whine and cry every time you match against a kino3. Shitters like you will never stop complaining.
>>
>>150240785
If you aren't enjoying 5v5, then don't queue it any more. I prefer 2v2 but still queue 5v5 because it's fun running into friends from other guilds and seeing how they do. However, this:
>But here it's just pointless, the problem isn't that your team is not skilled, the problem is that your team isn't even fucking rank 7. There is quite literally nothing you could have done to prevent your loss
This is wrong. If you're Rank 7, then only 4 potential people on your team can not be rank 7, while 5 people on the enemy team may not be rank 7. I'm not saying you won't lose some matches at queue, of course you will, but there's still something to learn from those matches and if you let yourself get sucked into that mindset of "Arrggh my team! Impossible!" you'll never learn any of it.
>>
>>150241452
No I wouldn't, but keep projecting
>>
>>150240975
wanna give us his blog updates too? sounds like you were in his daycare and he's your father figure.
>>
>Making an Ar2Sap2
>Grinding at Royal Mausoleum, WL comes along and offers to leech
>4m exp an hour, up from 1.5m
>Hit class cap, time to advance
>Quest is bugged, has been for two days, impossible to finish or quit
>Missed out on an easy ride to 90

Literally cannot continue on this character because IMC can't go a single patch without fucking up something. I'm so upset.
>>
>>150241050
What's your rank then big boy ;)
>>
>>150241475
>but there's still something to learn from those matches and if you let yourself get sucked into that mindset of "Arrggh my team! Impossible!" you'll never learn any of it.

I do try to learn. In fact I learn a fucking lot.

I learned how to run from 5 people rushing at me while my entire team is dead, then get to the wizard and kill it, and get ganged up by 4 people and die. Every single round. Every single match.

I learn a lot.
>>
>>150241595
Earlier you complained about
>There is quite literally nothing you could have done to prevent your loss
This is basically every 1v1 against a kino3 your build will have. Hence you would whine and cry for kino nerfs if 1v1 battle league is implemented because there is literally nothing you can do 1v1 against raise.
>>
>>150241801
You sound really frustrated. Take the rest of the day off, try again tomorrow if you're still interested. Remember that the ranking resets Monday, I think? And if you're not a namedrop, nobody cares what your rank is or will remember it after the reset. So take the losses, keep on learning (hopefully things more useful than getting ganged up on) and maybe next week will go better for you.

The weekly ladder resets are great. It means if you have a bad start, you only have to deal with it for a week, as opposed to months or entire seasons.
>>
>>150241271
Whatever amount of con, rest in INT
I have 55 con
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>Use death sentence in 2v2
>It's bugged and doesn't go away when you die in arena
>All the clerics play 5v5

This is pretty fun.
>>
Is there any point in leveling Sleep past level 5 now?
>>
>Cleansing defiling energies
>The name of the defilement is "Europeans"

Am I Hitler now?
>>
>>150241864
I want to lose because of my own fault, not because of other shitters, think a bit before posting retarded shit
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>>150242374
Yes
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Really this would all be avoided by just making rank 7 a requeriment. Not very hard tbqh
>>
>>150242358
what else would you level?
>>
>>150237927
>>150240179
I've never had this problem. Are you using perch? If the bird ignores an order, it's only because the bird is taking off or landing on your shoulder or perch. I've never had the bird stop in mid air before with wings spread out and frozen.
>>
>>150242610
I don't know, but isn't the attack threshold capped at 5 since the last patch?
>>
>>150242358
Yes. 15s sleep in arena is OP af.
>>
>>150242427
Just do 2v2 and play 1v2 at worst then. Or are you too shit to even do that?
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>>150242789
yes, but the sleep duration is still the same i think
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>full con priest2diev3doctor
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>>150240785
>baww baww i cant possibly be expected to do the work for multiple people in order to raise in rating!
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>tfw I only log for arena and then close the game after an hour
just keep it open
>>
>>150243315

migrate
>>
>>150243286
we can't all be as great as Rance though
>>
>>150243286
can ANYBODY stop RANCE?

INSANE
>>
>>150243480
okay rance we get it
>>
>>150243286
>Evergarden
post the webm
>>
Do I need to put points in int as a diev druid, or can I go full con?
>>
>>150241271
probably like 80 invested and rest int if you want to pvp
>>
>>150243286
>2 necro kinos on a team
>they win
what is this image meant to show?
>>
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yX-BsR5JrE8

Anyone know what this song is called?
>>
>>150246023
O Deive
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