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Has anything interesting happened to the campaign after beastmen were added for non-beastmen factions?

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> Tomb Kings still not announced

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Genevieve Dieudonné legendary hero when?

>Bot factions only attacking me when playing head-on-head in Shogun 2

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I want to be dominated by a best elf!

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Postan polls. Redid the Greens one because it was missing some units.
1 http://www.strawpoll.me/10869446
2 http://www.strawpoll.me/10869440
3 http://www.strawpoll.me/10871587
4 http://www.strawpoll.me/10871600
5 http://www.strawpoll.me/10871627

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Are minotaurs the new demigryphs?

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>>150095820
>best elf

She's not an Asrai tho

>>150083843
>>150088934
>a thane reaches Ekrund, settles the grudge
>critically assassinated in 2 turns
>Kazador heals his wounds from an attempted assassination
>assassinated again when he reaches his destination
Please
Send help
I'm sick of getting bullied by creatures smaller than me

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The dwarfs seem even shorter than usual today

Guys, i still didnt get the dlc. Is the beastmen DLC actually worth it?

>>150096346
DELETE THIS, MANLING

>>150096375
No.

>>150089834
Don't forget the other buildings also reduce upkeep costs. The full pit line reduces ungor costs by.... 35%?

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>>150096375
I got it for $15 when it was on sale at GMG and I'd say so. It's missing some key Beastmen units but the majority are there. Minotaurs are extremely satisfying. The race as a whole plays better than Warriors of Chaos, so if you want a better horde experience, this is it.

>>150096983
Entire Minotaur armies is all you need as beastmen desu, the upkeep reduction you can get is ridiculous so you can actually support it.

>>150097798
I bet you were one of the cucks that spammed steam tanks when the game first came out

>>150096375
The mini-campaign is decent enough, and Beastmen in general are fun to play in battle, but too easy to cheese on the campaign. Unless you're a poorfag and not in desperate need for more factions to play, wait for sale.

Was the DLC worth it in your opinion?

So far i have put in 19 hours using beastmen, and only half way through the GC. Probably the most fun campaign i have done so far, and fought every single battle no auto resolve.

Its a bit steep and can see why people wouldn't pay for it, but so far i have no regret spending £12.

So does the AI not give any sort of a shit if you raze and raid their land and cities? I'm trying to bait out this Estalia stack from their capital and to no avail. They won't take the bait and attack my secondary horde, and I don't have the units to siege the city.

It's also pretty epic that they can fund a stack and are starting another off one city.

>>150099116

>Was the DLC worth it in your opinion?

Unless $20 will actually make some kind of significant impact in your economy (How did you afford a PC that can even run this game?) then yes, absolutely.

>>150099116
They are particularly fun for me because I can have full vanguard armies. I like being able to go into the fight and start fighting immediately.

Their GC seems too easy to me. But their units seem pretty decent.

Unger raiders are incredible for their cost. That speed is undervalued I think.

>>150099234

If the AI didn't cheat there would be no challenge to these games.

It's unfortunate, but until CA can program actual good AI this fact won't change.

>>150099234
>whining that the AI gets the same 2500 base income you rely on to maintain your stack of goatmen

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>>150099339

>last cannon shot mulches the enemy Vampire lord

Thank Sigmar for that shot, his army was mulching mine on every front.

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Is the Call of the Beastmen DLC worth it?

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Is the Call of the Beastmen DLC worth it?

>>150100160
>mulches
i like that word

>>150100307
it's an apt word for the result that a cannonball makes.

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Can i do it familias?

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>>150100160
>playing beasties GC
>destroy todd and midenheim
>send my noob horde to sack his last undefended city
>karl franz surrounds the horde
>fight with bestial vigor
>karl franz is in the mix, on foot
>karl starts running
>5 units of empire knights reinforcements crash into my army
>my beastmen start routing
>only my beastlord and a few random units are still fighting
>chase down karl with beastlord on foot
>kill him seconds before the loss

I feel like the crow father legendary lord is shit because you pretty much HAVE to spec your horde generals for + growth and upkeep reduction

>>150100595

depends on the reinforcing armies, but if they are the same turd tier as manny's army then yes.

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>empire GC
>all beastmen tribes died before turn 40

Alright

>>150101047
They might re-appear like the Savage Orc tribes do, but I'm not sure.

>>150101047

mine died by turn 15 due to the AI trying to attack my single unwalled town in reikland and trying to bypass Karl with beastpath to get to it.

Man dwarves aren't fun to play at all

>>150100595
most like yes, and with your army it shouldn't be too bad

>>150100615
Malagor is possibly the best LL at the moment.

Rush his magic tree get devolve and wipe armies in seconds, sieges are a joke since you can destroy all their army on the walls.

Get a bray shaman of death and get the cool down perk, and life leech.

Use a Gorebull for fighting lords and heroes, also get his training perk.

Malagor also gets a passive that increases the speed of all your units, making Centigors nearly 100 speed.

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>>150100710
>>150101240
JUST

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Post mods that make Chaos harder, rather than spawning half stacks that do nothing

>>150101439
Your Dawi broke way earlier than expected

What are the hottest multiplayer tactics

>>150101553
Varhgulf wrecked the shit out of me, fucker didnt ran away even at almost zero hp and morale

>>150101647
>Undead
>Running away
That's not how this works, Anon.

How the fuck do you beat these vampire cunts every fucking turn they shit out 4 stacks

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>>150095368
Hey does anyone here use OBS to record their stuff? I have been recording Medieval II gameplay For my Youtube channel and the mouse cursor doesn't appear in the recordings where it is when I am playing. So I will be clicking a unit or a part of the screen and on play back it is far to the left and up.

Anyone know how to fix that?

>>150101787
>does anyone here use OBS to record their stuff? I have been recording Medieval II gameplay For my Youtube channel and the mouse cursor doesn't appear in the recordings where it is when I am playing. So I will be clicking a unit or a part of the screen and on play back it is far to the left and up.
post channel

>>150101230
The first 25 turns are a fucking torture, but it gets better if you can start printing gold.
Finally emerging from the Silver Road and slaughtering everything without a beard in your wasteland is p satisfying. And then you get to bully armies like this.

>>150101647
>expecting Manny's pet to melt away before slaughtering everything

>>150101906
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCs675ZPKFqWjTWkfPTl2Sog

There is nothing up yet cause this mouse problem is bugging me. Once I get this fixed, stuff is ready to go.

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>>150101918
>bully armies like this
I guess the joke is that you won't get to bully anyone.
Fug.

>>150101787
There's a setting on whether to record the mouse or not, don't recall where exactly

>>150102124
Why do you still have a unit of miners in your army?

>>150102124
Fucking Top Knotz.

>>150102124
Those orcs should be a pushover.

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>>150102078
Im waiting

>>150102274
Yeah I could do that, but it just looks a bit weird with boxes popping up without something for your eye to follow. So I was checking in to see if someone had another solution. But thanks anyway.

>>150102392
Waiting for what qt3.14?

Am i missing something or do dwarf lack a dedicated killer heroes?

>>150102336
Wanted to see if the blasting charges are worth using. Doesn't really feel like it.

>>150102383
Yep. Still fun to fight something without cavalry out the ass. Their reinforcements were literally the same thing, but with one pack of boars that got instantly BTFO'd.

>>150102576

you mean assassins?

>>150102576
Hero killers? Gunners and artillery.

>>150102576
The closest they have is the Thane. The Runesmith and the Engineer are both more support oriented.

>>150102576
Do you mean an assassin type like banshees or goblin bosses? I think one of the dwarf heroes can get assassin upgraded in the blue chain, can't they?

I still find the mental image of a gorebull as an assassin hilarious.

>>150102841
The equivalent to Banshee or Witch hunter
>>150102851
Speaking of heroes, do the AI cheat with money? I can barely afford a few one and the AI has half a dozen of them with several full stack running around

>>150102809
Blasting charges are a nice bonus on ironbreakers, but yeah, I would recruit units just to get them.

>>150103113

yeah the AI cheats, higher difficulty = more cheats.

Also dorfs dont really have a witchunter/banshee equilevant, Thane is the closest but he's more like the Empire Captain.

>>150103113
>do the AI cheat with money?
Is that a rhetorical question?

>>150103113
>do the AI cheat with money
Of course. Orcs have access to shittons of mines too.

>>150103331
I guess assassinating someone isn't honourable, pretty annoying though

What faction you enjoy the most /vg/?

Beastmen>Empire>VC>Dwarves>Orcs>Chaos
For me

>>150104031

Empire, I'm just a sucker for honest men standing against supernatural fuckery.

does beastmen need a number of units in the main army before spawning a breyherd like the orcs?

>>150104031
VC > Empire > Dorfs
Haven't played orcs or the dlc factions yet.
I like Dorf units, but messing around with the fractured Elector counts is far more fun than Greenskin removal simulator 2016.

>>150104291
Yes.

>>150104031
Empire>VC>Dwarfs> POWER GAP > POWER GAP> Orcs> POWER GAP> POWER GAP> POWER GAP> POWER GAP> Chaos> POWER GAP> POWER GAP> POWER GAP TO END ALL POWER GAPS> Beastfurries

>>150104031
Beastmen>Vampire counts>Empire>Greenskins>Chaos>>>>>>>> Dwarfs

Dwarfs were most boring race i dislike their playstyle.

All the rest are kind of even.

>>150104031
Empire>Dwarves>Orcs>BM>Chaos>VC

Don't like VC's playstyle or aesthetic.

>>150104682
Somebody's mad. Friendly reminder that there aren't any beastmen players trying to lewd up the thread, the ONLY people talking about furries in these threads are people like you.

>>150104682
I don't like them but they were the most fun to play

>>150095594
I keep getting notifications that beastmen factions are destroyed because they spawn with a single stack, attack a big empire city and get wiped.
So that's...interesting.

>>150104875
>anon is STILL afraid of skellingtons

Can someone pls post an unmounted Azhag?

>>150095594
I've been playing as Dorfs and Orcs and I haven't seen Beastmen at all. No notifications that they even exist or anything.

>>150105270
Notifications don't always show up, I think. I don't remember seeing one, but Jagged Horns were still fucking shit up at Karak Azul.

>>150104031
Empire>orcs fuck the rest

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>there are """people""" in this thread right now, not owning Call of the Beastmen DLC.

Wait a second
What happens if you build 19 gyrocopters
And send them to Vampire cunts?

>>150105601

They get rolfcopter

>>150105601
Can't donate military units to other factions in this game.

Actually, joking aside, it'd be neat if you could and that was a big part of how Tilea and Estalia's economies worked.
Dogs of War Unit Pack DLC when?

>>150105815
tomorrow

>tfw still no piratefag version

do you hate good things?

>>150105815
Send them to attack the Vampire cunts, that is.
Now that you mention it though, it is a bit odd that you can't donate units.

>>150105545
>Owning a chaos reskin with a shitty cut down map
Na thanks

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>>150105943
>he still hasnt played Total War: Warhammer.

>>150102392
1st video will be up within 24 hours. thanks

>>150106090
The last total war I bought was rtw

Buly me

>>150106220
I can see how your faith in CA could have been shattered by M2, but they redeemed themselves over the years.

>>150106415
Does unit cohesion fucking suck still like atilla? It's like the units enter a fucking marshland as soon as they enter their ebin animation meme combats

Requesting webm of a charge

>>150106415
What was so wrong with M2?

>>150106558
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ikv0kKmDwTM

what difficulty are you guys playing beastmen at?
when i play very hard i can't attack a single enemy since they all have doomstacks and walled cities everywhere.

>>150106558
Yes, in M2 they still slowly moonwalk away from the front line while the unit is in combat and those damn hollywood sync kills are still in the game

>>150106574
For a number of reasons the only useful unit types are either heavy sword&board infantry or heavy cavalry, and that's just because heavy cavalry not working was patched.

Seriously, the list of issues is too long and this has been discussed to death already.

>>150106841
normal

>>150106881
>have no reasons
>"it's been discussed to death"
Okay then.

>>150107181
>he will pretend there is no issue at all if someone doesn't waste half an hour pointing them out at him

Okay then.

>>150107342
Forgive me for not being convinced by some anon just saying the game was bad enough to shatter one's faith in the company without any justification. I will try to take what people on 4chan say as gospel in future.

>>150106765
>represents a work in progress

requesting webm of game in action current day style

>>150106841
>what difficulty are you guys playing beastmen at?
won legendary campaign in 8 hours
>when i play very hard i can't attack a single enemy since they all have doomstacks and walled cities everywhere.
they don't have devolve and minotaurs though

>>150107664
If you've already played it then either you're purposefully being dense for the sake of arguing, making any attempt to point out flaws pontless, or you genuinely didn't see any flaws in the game, in which case there is no reason for me to burst your bubble and ruin your enjoyment of the game. Or you simply didn't play the game, period. My suggestion would then be to try it out yourself first.

I'm not in the mood to beat a dead horse.

>>150100615
>>150101276

Fucking this. Malagor is a goddamn beast.

But yeah, you definately need to rush growth afterwards. Of all the things I had trouble with in the campaign then it was growth.

>>150108224
>Get a freebie Warpriest from the game.
>Ludwig Todbringer
>Expect much from him.
>Gets constantly blown the fuck away even with his armor and health upgrades.

Is the hero type just shite or is this the mongoloid nephew of Todbringer?

>>150106841

Play on VH. No reason to play on Leg.

Also, go to Options later and switch battle difficulty to Normal, otherwise the AI cheats like fuck.

As BC, spam Ungor Raiders. They absolutely rape any lighty armored units they come across, and can hide literally everywhere and start with Vanguard Deployment.

>>150108514
Warrior priest is definitly a support hero, more on the campaign map than the battle I think.

>>150108514

They're kind of meant to act like support, but Gorebulls are just frankly superior to them in every way.

>>150108609
cheers senpai

>>150108252
Did play it a lot, did enjoy it. There were problems, yes, but it's the claim that the game was so bad to shatter your faith in the devs that's confusing. I've never seen anyone make this claim before, in fact many still view M2 as the best in the series. (Not me, incidentally, that's Shogun 2.)

Now, Empire say, that was bad enough at launch to make many seriously doubt CA, and it's still pretty goofy even after patches. But to hear this about M2 is new.

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How the fuck do I git gud at this game and beastmen in particular?

Every time I try to hammer and anvil, my hammer is usually countered by enemy cavalry or skirmishers.

>it's a Norse army with 10 maurauder cav edition

>>150108945
Since we're keeping this civil I might go ahead and venture that the irony in that post of mine might have been lost anon. It was a jab at people accusing X game to be the one responsible for them losing faith in CA, where X usually is a newer game.

But then, we're on 4chan, so
>merely pretending

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ETA on grey wizard update?

Is there a mod to disable auto resolve?

>>150109528
2-3 weeks.
Now, what's the ETA on dlc discounts?

>>150109528
why is his nose so greasy

>>150109360
gotta strike when the iron is hot

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>tfw want to play Empire to remove beastialitymen but mod that gets rid of the Empire's stupid hats and parade costumes and gives them proper armour has been fucked by recent patch

suffering

>>150109814
Nice bait you piece of shit

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>>150109814
>Getting rid of empire hats and poofy sleeves

holy fuck. Get out. You disgust mt.

>>150109814
parade costumes are more historical

>>150109518
>merely pretending
Nope, I was being an imbecile and missed the irony entirely. Never mind.

dubs decide what faction i play on legendary

>>150110159
/vg/ doens't have dubs so you should be chaos anyway

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>>150109814
>Its a shit taste-kun that doesn't like floppy hats walks into the thread episode.
Im gonna cut you.

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>>150109814
>stupid hats and parade costumes
Tasteless pleb confirmed.

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>>150109814
that looks fucking awful not to mention all still 30 armor so why make them look like they have chosen gear

So did the latest patch add beasties into all the games in progress?
I'm scared to load my greenskin lego campaign to find an army of mad bulls eager to ram their cocks into my tight goblin asshole.

>>150109812
but how do I do that most effectively?

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>>150109814

>removing hats

>>150110349
I don't think they spawn unless you make a new campaign, so you should be safe.

>>150110228
Empire it is then.

I dont play shit-factions

>>150109814
last warning bud

Which Beastman Legendary Lord is best?

>>150110349

Cannot spawn without making a new campaign.

>>150110298

Yeah, I don't get why people want entirely new models when the stats doesn't reflect the changes.

>>150109814
Literally kill yourself.

>>150110628

Malagor, hands down.

Shit's insane how strong Devolve is.

>>150110628

Malagor. Devolve is OP as shit early in the campaign, basically Bjuna's older brother who just got out of prison.

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>>150110424
use pic related

>been playing nothing but beastmen since they came out
>tons of Chaos before that
>just started up an Empire campaign
They are so happy and nationalistic, I love it. I feel bad for assraping them with the other two factions

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>>150110979
This is why I find it hard to play Chaos/Vamp cunts/Poopoo peepees. Empire people don't deserve this shit.

>pre battle set up
>Overhear 'Keep him back - I promised his mother'
>mfw that unit got wiped out

>>150110628
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>>150110926
What exactly is Bjuna or Devolve? I'm lost but I keep reading about it

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>>150109983
>>150109997
>>150110035
>>150110252
>>150110269
>>150110298
>Muh Holy Roman Empire costumes

It's fantasy, they're regular humans going up against 7ft tall vikings wearing inch-thick hellforged plate harnesses, massive green monsters with carving knife teeth who are as wide as they are tall and the fucking endless hordes of the undead.

Showing up in tights and a puffy hat is just stupid. Given how industrialised the Empire is, there's no reason they couldn't equip their troops in munitions-grade plate harnesses and it'd give them a vital edge against their enemies.

Empire troops already have pretty high armour despite, at most, just wearing a breastplate. That mod just represents this visually.

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>>150105545
>3 or 4 beastmen units
>rest of them are from the chaos roster

No thanks

>>150095640
lizardmen when?

>>150111413
Just go with the normal Men of the empire reskin mod. Keep the frills and the hats but it makes your guys wear a bit more armour.

>>150111660
last dlc of last expansion

;_;

>>150111490

>hounds
>poison hounds
>chaos spawns

The giant has a unique model.

Plenty of unique units.

>>150111763
The spawns actually have unique models too if you look closely.

>>150111757
Speaking of, how are the expansions going to work? Will they be stand-alone? What happens to Beastmemes and Chaos?

>>150112058
i fucking hope they expand the grand campaign map, but they are probably just going to release them seperately.

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I want to role play a little bit. Do you complete ALL the side missions for chapter objectives? Some of them are kinda impossible. Normally for empire I sweep reikland in 3 or 4 turns, but one of my quests is to recruit a hero and do little missions issued by the other counts.

>>150111402
Devolve is an absolutely massive area of effect spell that does insane damage

>>150112058

Probably have standalone full price games for different geographical areas with other races being filled in to those areas through 15 dollar DLC.

It's GW, lube up.

>>150111402
Fate of Bjuna is a lore of death spell that could kill any single unit with multiple units in 1 or 2 casts before the Beastmen update. Devolve is a lore of the wild spell that works almost exactly like Bjuna, except it can hit multiple units at the same time, does more damage and also affect enemy leadership. It's the most broken spell in game at this moment and will single-handedly win you battles you really shouldn't be winning.

>>150112183
Are you playing on massive? I don't even notice the damage, I just use it to push a route.

>>150112272
>auto-resolve says I basically don't have a snowball's chance in hell
>load in, summon a cygor
>spam devolve
>decisive victory

Wew lad, what a class those Breyshaman are.

>>150112351
Huge damage early game, late game it's just a resolve breaker

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>ywn have your own little froggo island

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>>150112272

>tfw you melt the center of their line before they get into melee and then use your trash ungors to mop up.

So if I have the Beastie Boy DLC and my buddy doesn't, I can play coop with him as Beasties right?

>>150111413
yea dude rather be mobile than slow myself down and still get crushed instantly by some giant chaos fucker

fuck off with the generic ebin full plate shit

>>150112351
>>150112490
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oou90rhLN4M
In the first two minutes Heir tests Devolve on five units of Greatswords and shatters them before they reach his line.

>>150112058
From what I remember they're supposed to be standalone, but if you have the base game, you can combine the game maps together to create a bigger campaign map. So basically if you get all the expansions you can get the full map featuring every playable race

Playing dwarfs, my game is stuck after Archeon enters the world. Pass turn is greyed out and I can't move any of my troops, as if the game is waiting for the cutscene to end.

Anyone have a similar problem and/or solution?

>>150112272

Yeah, shit's insane. Overcast it and you WILL instakill anything from greatsowrds to black orcs.

It's hilariously broken, and I have no idea why the devs haven't scaled magic damage to be percentage based instead.

>>150113345
post a screenshot, might see something you've missed.

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>>150112707
>Muh agility

>>150113345
>>150113486

It happens when you have too many allies and Chaos enters and declares war on them.

Break a few alliances and try again.

>>150113738
>covering your sleeves in junk will let you survive a mystic hellblast you could have moved away from instead

>CA kept shilling Slayers on how they are awesome and best and the single most popular units of the Dwarfs
>they end up terrible

What the fuck happened?

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>new campaign
>todd and nordland are underdogs

come under mine wing

>>150114181

Even now when they're buffed they're terrible.

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>>150113486
I've played campaigns before and normally after Archeon arrives, his avatar in the chaos wastes fades out and you regain control.
But in this case, it just stays like this. I can still conduct diplomacy, but not move any characters, save or end the turn.

Pressing escape just dismisses the advisor, icon, but doesn't do anything else.
I've disabled all mods and reloaded the save, but it keeps occurring.

>>150114181
They realised Gingers shouldn't be that powerful.

>>150114181
all i had to do was add 35% dmg reduction to fix them
I think making them immune to vigor like centaurs might be good too

>>150114181
>slayers: what happend
>>150114406
due to no armor they get absolutely destroyed by missiles and infantry units

they are also not that great against cavalry to be honest and most dwarf armies have way better options in 99% of cases

also imo the slayer shrine is a bit to expensive

>>150114054
I don't have a single ally and was already at war with Chaos before Archeon entering.

Guess this particular campaign is lost.

Is there a mod that gives Greatswords only floppy hats?

playing age of charlemagne for the first time with danes

should I get some settlements on the normandy coast or just fortify denmark and keep raiding?

What is the the proper role of Slayers in your army? I know they're supposed to be used against large monsters, but my artillery just kills that shit anyway. Every time I try to use Slayers they just get bullied by everything.

>>150114458

Try the fix >>150114054
recommended

>>150114948
Their proper role is to be disbanded ASAP so you can recruit better units.

>>150114920

I mostly played them as opportunistic fucks and fortified denmarl while raiding coastal cities untill I had the dosh to take england.

Caoswastes expasion when? I want to see what fucked up shit is there.

>>150115238
Probably when demons roll out.

>>150114948

mostly anti-large as you said and act as "flankers" due to being the "fastest" dwarf infantry unit.

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>>150115297

Hopefully they add more to chaos in general. I want my Nurgle army.

>>150113738
>I'm sure my steel trousers will allow me to tank that giant's tree

>pistoliers look cool and have cool shootin animation, but suck hot beast cock in every other way.

WHY

>>150114080
>Plate armor makes you immobile

Pop-history fags are the worst.

Plate protects you against all sorts of shit, you're not going to be dodging sword blows or goblin arrows whilst fighting in formation and surrounded on all sides.

Plate harnesses were worn for a reason, you didn't see any actual soldiers joining in your autistic chorus of 'My superior agility will allow me to dodge all incoming blows!'. They put on as much armour as they could because being disemboweled by a sword blow you never saw coming isn't fun, and the weight can be offset by physical conditioning.

>>150115497
No but an unarmoured man isn't going to avoid a tree being swung through his entire unit either.

What it will do is stopping some goblin slicing your scrotum off with a rusty knife while you're distracted trying to duck a flurry of choppa swings from an Orc Big Un.

play modded woc campaign

beastmen declare war

???
is this supposed to be why would they declare war on me

>>150101647
Did you focus the Flamethrowers at him?

>>150115984
Chaos infights all the time, the occasions where they all unite to fuck shit up are the exception, and even then everyone's in it for personal gain first and foremost.

theres like 8 empire heroes harassing my hordes
gorebulls cant even touch some of these guys
do I just have to let them be?

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Does the speed you complete chapter missions impact how fast chaos spawns?

>>150115568
>He doesn't get 100+ kills with his pistoliers every battle

Not using them right senpai.

Can someone post webms of beastmen magic?

>>150116370
use your zzzap chaman to kill them

you do have one dont you?

>>150116395
yes, it does

>>150116521
huh
but hes a wizard

>>150116370
Just get the enemy agent inaction mod

>>150115710
>>150115974
>>150111413

Remember the fact that the Empire at its best is still an infighting mess a lot of times.

Even if it's industrialized only elite troops seem to be able to afford full plate armor while the drafted masses get something passable, both due to their potentially shitty training and also because most of the shit you throw at any enemy gets scavenged or cannibalized and then used against their own makers. A good comparison can be between Spess Mahreens and Astra Militarum from the 40k setting.

It might look and feel silly but the Empire isn't the kind of industrial juggernaut you make it look like. In TWG you can amass steam tanks but in the game's lore there's like 8 at best.

>>150115710
>>150115974

You're seriously overestimating both lethality on the field and the effectiveness of plate, for ages before full plate was introduced soldiers have been fighting for a lifetime with far less armor and survived, and plate armor can still be fucked up by aiming for exposed joints like goblins do or sheer blunt force like most fantasy creatures can apply.

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Whats the best version of english Bellum Crucis?

Please respond.

>>150115348
>>150114948

Literally a quasi dwarf cavalry unit without charge bonus or blasting apart formations.

Haven't done a comfy dorf campaign yet. What am I in store for? Any units besides Slayers I should avoid?

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>>150117923
Suffering until you can brute force your way out of the silver road area.

>>150117923
bombers have been buffed a lot.
get them and completely obliterate infantry with it.

>>150111916

Beastmen spawn have also have different stats and poison attacks which WoC Spawn don't have.

>>150117923
>dorf
>comfy

>>150112626

Yes

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Lads am I just shit? My army costed more and I got fucked. It was mostly the minotaurs, the gorebull, and the beastlord on chariot fucking through my lines. I used my greatswords and cannons on their minotaur units but it wasn't enough.

On the flip side I've found the beatmen vs empire is too easy I just ctrl g right click, no joke.

>>150119176

>Rockets

Anon pls no.

They're so bad.

That army composition is generally just pretty bad, you could have replaced most of your more expensive units with spearmen and crossbows and done better.

>>150117923
Don't expect comfy. You're in for the greatest orc removal simulator of the current year.

>>150117130
>plate armor can still be fucked up by aiming for exposed joints

So any armor that gives anything less than 100% protection against all threats in inherently useless and you might as well wear tights and floppy hat? I'm sure our modern soldiers who labour a shit-ton of ceramic and kevlar would be interested to hear this.

>for ages before full plate was introduced soldiers have been fighting for a lifetime with far less armor and survived

I give up, you're officially retarded if you honestly think plate harnesses had no effect on your chances of surviving a battle

>>150116876
>the Empire isn't the kind of industrial juggernaut you make it look like.

Historical European armies managed to outfit the bulk of their troops in munition grade plate by the late medieval period, and they're significantly less advanced than the Empire, who have fucking rifles and tanks. The Empire is borderline industrial revolution with it's move into steam technology, even if it isn't manufacturing steam based equipment in large quantities yet. Shitting out tons of cheap plates would be trivial to them.

Plate armor isn't hard to produce once you have the metalurgy, you just need the access to the raw resources and the manpower to manufacture it. It's faster and cheaper to produce than mail armour, which Bretonnia, which is smaller, technologically backwards and dramatically less industrialised, manages to produces huge quantities of for it's knights.

>FACK THEM
What did Thorgrim Grudgebearer mean by this?

>>150119853
Can Zufbar and that other Dwarf hold handle the greenskin north of Karaz-a-Karak. I don't want to go up there but i also don't want to have a full stack pop behind my back

>>150119176
Regardless of how shitty that army is, why didn't you swarm the minotaurs with your spearmen? Use your greatswords to butcher their infantry, and cycle them with your knights and they'll break fairly quick.

>>150120561
you need mount gunbad because it gives crazy money

>>150117923
irondrakes and flame cannons are rather underwhelming too

>>150111490
The hounds are the only copy paste, the giants and spawns have unique models and stats.

>>150120561
There are only two orc settlements up there - and Zufbar will take them by turn 15-18, in my experience. Don't expect any orc filth to come from there.
Gunbad can print money for you though, if you take it very early on.

>>150120561
Depends on the seed desu. I had a campaign where they smashed the greenskins and held 3 full provinces, then somehow lost their army and I snagged them for a confederacy.

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>>150109814
>he doesn't like the poofy sleeves and the floppy hats

You're a disgrace

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Is Khazrak useless as fuck in battle or is it me? I feel like his animation oveeral is just slow as fuck. A gorebull 5 levels down wrecks harder than he does. Should I even go melee build for him or just put it all on leadership bonuses?

why would i use a shaggoth over a giant ?

the only thing it has going for it is its speed, so is there really a point in using them ?

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>>150121169
Do you keep an army up there?

>>150121453
No, no orc would get up there. Just make sure no rebellions start up there.

>>150121169
Probably got Manny'd.

>>150121453
only if the other city stays in orc hands, otherwise i move my second army into silver road to defend the inevitable doomstacks

>>150121531
and what he said, be careful with your happiness

>>150121318
General consensus on /twg/ seems to be the other legendary leader blows One Eye out of the water. Haven't tried him though.

>>150121531
Orcs aren't a problem but vampire often go to war with dorfs for no reason

>>150121318
Chariot Khazrak is really powerful, slightly more than a Gorebull. Plus you should really be getting the army-wide buff skills available to a Gorebull rather than combat enhancing skills.

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>>150109983
>>150110035
>>150110252
>>150110269
>>150110298
>>150121276
>All these free (you)s
thanks guys :^)

>>150121318
red and blue trees are generally better than the melee one

i dont think khazrak is that good in comparison to the gorebull who is a extremely good unit with a very good skill tree

malagar can use devolve, so naturally he is incredibly op right now

>>150121659
He is better than Khazrak but solely because of his op Devolve ability. In other areas he's inferior. Devolve will be nerfed soon.

>>150121724
why would i put him on a chariot ?
he fucking sucks against other lords then

is it only to rape melee lines or what is the point ?

>>150122019
150 charge bonus

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post your /first/ tww screenshot

Does anyone else here like playing as Orks?

I feel like everyone here just likes Empires and Beastmen (I get beasts, cause they just came out).

Were are all me gits at?

>>150122065
so just put the gorebull against enemy lords and heroes and use kazrak to kill infsantry i should maybe try that

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>>150122076

>>150122526
holy shit is that a mod?

>>150122175
Kazrak does pretty well in walled sieges, too. Throw him up a ladder and he can keep 2-3 enemy units tied up and he'll come out almost full health while the rest of your army goes through the gate or up another side of the wall.
I often completely forget about him after putting him on the wall

So when you use the underway stance you have a random chance to fight an enemy army using it close to you or am i mistaken?

>>150122556
Blood and gore dlc

>>150122647
Yep. It's shit.

Who is the most fun faction, /twg/?

I tried playing once at release, as dwarves, and didn't enjoy it. The problem was not the battles, but the terrible position for dwarves. I hated having to deal with random orc armies coming into raid, then leave, and just constantly dancing around and doing nothing but sapping my income.

>>150122647
When you move your army with the underway stance, if you past through their sphere of influence, they have the chance of intercepting you. The stationary army does not need to be in the underway stance to intercept the one that is moving using the underway stance. Same rules apply to the beast path for beast men.

Is it worth to start phasing out quarrelers for thunderers in my dwarf armies?
Also, are putting points in campaign bonuses for your LL and any other lords useful? Or should I focus on the other two trees?

>>150122663
i've never seen anyone get ripped in half like that.

>still no working middenland unlocker

>>150122856
Try artillery lad, very fun stuff.

>>150122120
Whole thing about orcs was brute strength and beastmen blow them out of the water in that area now.

>>150122824
Not sure if it's just because they're new but Beastmen are really fun. They're designed to be in constant battles and the ambush mechanics ensure you fight a lot of those which are fun. They're the only faction in which I found myself enjoying the offensive sieges because of how well they are at scaling walls and smashing down gates without having to bother about besieging or siege engines.

>>150122834
>if you past through their sphere of influence
You sure about that? I know i got pulled into battle going in the opposite direction of an army chasing me

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My first vid is up for those two anons.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=EGx7IFbZ_h4

>posting your channel on 4chan

>>150122838
Lightning strikes is really good

>>150122838
Thunderers are a pain in the ass to use, and only outperform quarrelers against armor, I believe. It's up to you, but I think having more quarrelers than thunderers is a better idea.
For dorfs? No. Lightning Strike is worth it, that's about it. Thing is, you can rip and tear your way through two orc armies anyway, if the circumstances allow it.

>>150123324
What should I start moving in to then? Up until turn 80 I was able to get by against greenskins with mostly just dwarf warriors and quarrelers, and maybe a grudge thrower or two. After wiping out the last Orc faction, I'm starting to build mostly long beards, thunderers, and a couple cannons. Is this a good composition? Am I under estimating some other units that I should be adding?

>>150123270
>did a campaign to unlock everyone
you know you can just edit a txt file

>>150123324
>Thunderers are a pain in the ass to use
Aren't they just quarrellers with guns?

>>150123746
Wanted to shake the rust off.

>>150100180
81% feel CotB is good, 5% that it's bad. 70% feel it's too expensive.

>>150123971
Quarrelers can shoot over your frontline, thunderers need a clear line of fire.

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G O B L I N S

>>150124306
>tfw they can't just curve the bullet

>>150123971
Pretty sure they're better against armor.

>>150124515
>tfw no trick shots

>>150124550
I meant in how you use them
>>150124306
I see, i should really do a bunch of custom battle to try different units

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>>150123270
I thought this would be shit but I was surprised.
Good on you man and it's great to see someone doing M2TW again.

Missile specialist LL when?

>>150124724
It takes a while, but figuring out your units during the campaign can be fun too.

Alright, so I'm 90 turns in to my dwarf campaign and it's getting stale. I want to try a new race, I'm thinking either greenskins or Beastmen. I'm not really great with tech trees and up keeping buildings, so I figure a race with limited tech/building options or one that doesn't maintain cities is a good call. Which should I go for?

>>150125501
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z5rRZdiu1UE

>>150125501
Beastmen, It was fun as fuck to raze a few cities then fuck off to the other side of the map, i can't imagine how much of a pain in the ass a competent ai would be also their tech tree is pretty straightforward

>goblin shaman is a lord instead of orc shaman

The fuck, since when do goblins lead an army of orcs

>>150125501

Chaos is fun if you don't like defending. Archaeon is fun if you like casting and beating the shit out of things, Kholek is fucking invincible, and Sigvald is best avoided.

>you don't pay the upkeep for heroes not embedded in a lord army
wtf, is that true?

>>150126528
I don't think so.

How do I make Malago fly?

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>>150122076

>>150126976
Doom diver catapult

>Start a GC Beastmen
>2nd Horde general has a shitty meme trait
>quit to main menu to restart

For what purpose?

Should I buy beasts or will there be a another steam sale soon.

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>>150122076
Fucking Hans Zintler and his one man barely able to stand under his own power siege of altdorf.

>>150127048
classic

How are you all building Kazrak?

Going melee tree or red buff tree?

I know you want to go bottom tree to get hoard growth first thing.

>>150126657
Well it sounded too good to be true
Fucking reddit

>>150127181
Can't splinter the Zintler

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Need some optimization help guys. What settings can I turn down to make my game run smoother but that, when lowered, wont completely make the game look like shit?

How is this without shadows or AA?

What exactly does ulimited virtual memory do in WH? I remember on Rome 2, if I turned it on, it actually made the game look significantly better but also made it chug. in WH, when I turn it on, i dont really see any graphical differences...

>>150127358
I got the upkeep skills first then just upgraded melee, prioritising the charge for when he gets his chariot. The skill that buffs Bestagors is really good too though.

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>>150121802
You're not me, imposter.

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>>150122076

>>150126178
The most cunnin warbands are always lead by the most cunnin gobbos.

Cunnin Cunnin Cunnin.

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>about to rape empire sesseioists
>suddenly beastmen
>loose half my fucking army to khazrak
>empire rebels dont gfaf and get 3 stacks on my ass

This is fucking unfair.

How the fuck do you kill a gorebull?

>>150127591
Often the game will ignore designated graphical settings if you don't have enough memory to allow them. Enabling unlimited virtual memory will allow you to have exactly what you are specifying. If what you are specifying is what a smaller designed amount of virtual memory can do then it won't have an affect.

The best thing to do is just to experiment with it, but I've found the biggest thing to improve performance is to reduce anti-aliasing quality.

>>150127751
>Langschifffriedhof
Why, god.

>>150127171
get it on g2play, got mine there for 12 ish eurobucks

Where do Beastmen start if you aren't playing them?

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>>150122076

>>150127751
God German is a disgusting language
>rustungdurchdringend

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>>150127710
Masterfully baited:^)))))))
>>150127879
Imagine playing Empire when this game is done
>Dark elves that hate you
>Skaven that hate you
>Ogre kingdoms eating up the eastern provinces
>Daemons of chaos
>Wood elves killing you for fun when you trip into their forests
>High Elves that randomly declare war on you(Because TW AI)
Who am I missing?

>>150127914
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ikv0kKmDwTM

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>>150128129
German here, can confirm

>>150128129
>>150127990
Nothing wrong with these words.

I see wyverns flying in orc lands and in the cgi opening of the game

Shouldnt they be usable for GS?

>>150128264
Manny

>>150128006
So 13 bucks ok ill look it. I hope they add all the other models for free. they say anything about it.

How are they on the grand campaign do they take a preowned spot.

>>150128006
>g2play
Its 16 bucks not unless you had a code.

>>150128409
Generic orc warbosses get them as a mount

>>150128481
there should be some more beastmen stuff when the wood elves pack gets released according to dataminers so take it with a grain of salt

on the gc you got 2 seperate starting positions: Khazrak starts in Estalia and Malagor in that swamp in the orc desert

>>150128592
prices regularly change on these sites, particularly around the turn of the month

What's with that dragon flying outside one of the ork city

>Cant play against beastmen in custom battle
Why? That is silly.

>>150126251
Sigvald is really good.

At like level 25 though, so yeah, you shouldn't have him be your first lord.

>>150127591
Disable in-game AA, force AA through your graphics driver control panel instead. The AA has always been pretty shit in total war games.

>>150129157
It's a Wyvern, like a dragon's retard cousin.

>>150126178
Thats not really weird. Goblin shamans are pretty different than regular goblins.

Goblin shamans actually have respect of warbosses, because dey channel da powah a' gork an mork

>>150127591
Turn SSAO off

>>150129323
What's it doing there though

>>150129157
There is also a pegasus flying around the sparkly mines of not-Iberia.

>>150129430
That's their natural habitat.

>>150128836
Ok any other places where the dlc clould be cheaper also
>wood elves pack
My god what about actually making the expansions with more units per race.
they gonna charge 1/3 a game again?

>>150129430
Adding some life to the map

>>150129430
Being an asshole.
Have fun with those things ruining your shit from time to time.

Did Bretonnian Damsels get access to Lore of Beasts with the patch?

>>150129876
They should get access to lore of breasts ifyouknowwhatImean

How do i best face beastmen? I tried empire but they got wiped out so early and barely respawned later. Should i get Tilea/Estalia mod?

>Playing beastmen
>Archaon spawns
>I'm at 13/25 razed settlements for victory
The race is on. Maybe shouldn't have spent so long chucklefucking about in brettonia, but hey ho.

>>150127358
I've gone mad with the blue tree. 3 points in upkeep reduction, 3 points in raiding/razing income, 1 point in lightning strike, 3 points in horde growth. Other than that, 3 points in slug-skin, as that buffs khazrak himself as well.

Have they made small upgrades to the graphics / sounds recently? I swear I hear more things in the background when techs pop or an event happens. I've also seen a lot more detail on the campaign map but maybe that's my imagination. Like a gryphon circling Karaz a Karak that I don't think was there before.

>>150111763
All of those look different in the Beastmen armies

>>150130964
I'm playing dorfs right now and I never saw the griffon at Karaz-a-Karak.