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Bestmen edition

>Call of the Beastmen
http://store.steampowered.com/app/404012/

>Patch notes

http://wiki.totalwar.com/w/Total_War_WARHAMMER_Update_2

>FAQs & General Info
http://pastebin.com/gZ1T9VCN

>Steam Groups
http://steamcommunity.com/groups/totalwargeneral
http://steamcommunity.com/groups/twgmp

>Total War Warhammer
Mods -- http://www.twcenter.net/forums/forumdisplay.php?2191-Total-War-WARHAMMER-Modifications

>IS CALL OF THE BEASTMEN WORTH BUYING?
The Beastmen are a cool faction but the pack is a bit overpriced for what you get. There probably won't be a price drop for some time, so if you're impatient or really like the Beastmen then go ahead, otherwise wait it out.

>OVERCASTING SPELLS
Double click a spell (it needs to be a boostable spell and you need to have enough magic in the magic pool) to overcast the spell
There's a 50% chance that the caster damages itself though!

>QUEST BATTLE TELEPORT
Select your lord (make sure he isn't garrisoned or in a stance)
Select the quest battle (on the map or through quest log)
There's a button in the bottom right of the quest battle window that you can use to teleport for 5k gold (when the battle's finished you're automatically teleported back to your original position)

>GROUP ATTACK
Group units with ctrl + g
Select your group and right click the enemy
All your units move and automatically direct themselves to and engage enemies they get close to while maintaining formation
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We forget to make a new thread edition
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First for fuck devolve.
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>>149999432
Yea, feel free to make another one if I did it wrong I'll delete.
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>>149999451
Is devolve just a general ability? I see a lot of people talk about it.
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>>149999468
Nah it's gud m8
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SIGMAR PROTECTS US!
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>>149999591
It's a spell. A really powerful one.
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>>149999591
Beastmen specific spell that just destroys shit.
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all dlcs released so i can finally buy the whole game when?
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>>149999839
Empire campaign is so comfy. Just protect your territories, set up some men near chaos waste to stop chaos from getting to powerful and build ally relations, and confederate the rest of the empire.
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>It's chaos invasion day
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Guys whatever happened to co-op campaign as same race
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>>149999932
>>150000025
Oh damn need to get a shaman then.
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how the fuck do I survive the eye to eye campaign, who ever I'm at war with just sends 2-3 stacks and outnumber my guys 3-1. It's pretty damn frustrating since as soon as you lose the stack you lose the game.
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>playing chaos legendary
>I've awakened 3 tribes, but have to keep running because skaeling have lol 5 stacks chasing me like some Benny Hill shit
>My ally, Aesling, decides instead of colonizing the ruins next to him he'll go attack Varg while leaving all of his settlements undefended
>varg goes and takes all his settlements
>now I have to go back to re-awaken them (if you can do that)?
Also, why on earth do these cunts start as military allies and not vassals? That makes no sense to me
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postin some screenshots
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>>150000301
use the hidden encampment stance to disappear and beast paths to get away from them
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>>150000301
Git gud. Seriously, no memes. Hordes require a different play-style.
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>>150000301
All horde playthroughs are about attacking weak settlements and armies until you finally can start steamrolling everything.
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So how are the norscans now? Do they still churn out basically as many doomstacks as before, or have they been scaled back a bit?
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>Archaon leads his Chaos Invasion into the Empire.
>Khazrak is ahead of the horde, burning towns and making his way to Altdorf.
>Ambush an Imperial army standing it's ground in the wasteland of Middenland, didn't notice who was leading it.
>It was Boris, now a general of the Empire after the fall of Middenheim.
>tfw having that final duel as the world comes crashing down.

Now that he's dead, I just feel empty inside. What's the point of playing any further as Khazrak without the rivalry of Boris Todbringer?
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I'm about to wipe out the last AI-controlled province off the map as Beastmen and the 'Fall of Man' quest still hasn't shown up for the victory objective. How the fuck do you get it?
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Get fucked, Ostland.
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Are beastmen the /r9k/ of warhammer or is it the lizardmen?

Also, requesting that pic showing how childish the slaans can get by stoping to talk to someone for 1000 years or something
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>>150000301
Don't be afraid to use your brayherds as distractions. Send one off toward a weak settlement while your main horde heads somewhere else. The AI can't chase both. And, although you don't get money from settlements your brayherds raze, they do count toward the 30 needed to complete the campaign.
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Minotaurs are fucking amazing

https://youtu.be/AulSJQlS7B4?t=9
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>>150000896
I should think Beast men would be more /b/

Lizardmen do seem a bit more fitting for /r9k/
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When will the official Bretonnian campaign be released?
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>>150001408
around november/december
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>>150001479

That is not soon enough
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>>150000896
Lizards are probably /r9k/
Skaven are 9gag
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>tfw hiding main army in the woods while the giant knocks the gate down
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>>150001364
I'm new to the thread so... but does that mean greens kind are /v/?

Constant unending in fighting between angry idiots?

What's the rest of the races?
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>>150000048
STORM EARTH AND FIRE

HEAR MY CALL
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>>150001625
Greenskin
fuck you auto correct
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>>150001625
Empire is pretty basic, so it's both /twg/, /his/ and /tg/
Bretonnians are arrogant and mean, so /soc/
Chaos warriors are /pol/
Tomb kings are /mu/, they want you to fuck off
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>>150000326
Acquire Chosen and autoresolve, you will versus several stacks with like 5 casualties
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>>150001625
Ogre Kingdoms are /ck/
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>>150000860
How?
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Has anyone here had any experience with the southern realms mod for warhammer? I'm thinking of trying it, but I'm worried it'll be some radious-esque shit.
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>>150000896
>>150001364
>>150001625
>>150001786
>>150001862

>fuck off guys I want to be Leonardo
>guys no, I am Leonardo

This is some primary school shit right here
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>>150002020
What, you don't want Black orc archer (Halberds) Demygryph riders?
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>>150002020
I got it and don't even play with them on the GC

They add lore friendly assets and units, and it's not too cheesy. I would say the Tileans are the most fleshed out

If you have the beastmen, you should get it so you could fight against them to see their styles and stuff
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>>150000407
he doesn't look like he cares
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>>150002148
>Not Ungor doom divers with Minotaur Vargheists with armored Centigor slayers
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>>150001868
Not that guy but I do have to say that beast men seem really good out of the gate. Their mobility is so nice and their strong monsters are so destructive.

It almost feels like circle charge: the army. Way more so then bretonnia even.

Also Centagors are becoming one of my favorite units. That rowdy ability is sick the longer the match goes.
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>>150002020
Is that the one by Cataph? It seemed pretty balanced to me, and adds a lot of nice flavour. Why not just try a couple of custom battles and decide for yourself?
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>>150002020

It's well-made and lore-friendly but I had to turn it off because every game Estalia was conquering half of Bretonnia. No idea if I was just unlucky or if it was the mod, but there it is.
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>>150002220
>>150002436
>>150002582
Thanks lads, I'm gonna give it a go. Try some custom battles and see if I like it.
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>>150002582
well, Estalia always ends up conquering most of Bretonnia in vanilla (before Beastie bois of course)
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>>150001868
Some of them thought they were sneaking in behind me right when the battle started.
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>>150002582
I don't have the mod and they regulary conquer Bretonnia too.
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How the fuck do I beat anything as Bretonnia

I'm a total fuckface at these games so I guess what I'm really asking is how do I do anything with cavalry
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>>150003129
There's a reason your not supposed to be able to play as them.
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>>150003129
>Attack enemies with Men-at-arms
>Charge cavalry in the back of the enemy
>Pull cavalry back
>Goto step 2
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>>150003129
Look up hammer and anvil strategy on Wikipedia.
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Genevieve Dieudonné legendary hero when?
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>>150000860
Good showing
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>>150001817
If I could get a chance to relax that would be nice, I'm basically just sacking any town at my max range while Varg, Skaeling, Nordland, and Middenland chase me around with a few Ostland priests
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>>150003446
women are inferior to men.
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>>150003446
Only after we get Gotrek and Felix, and Malus Darkblade.
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>>150001868

>How?

two devolve engines...I mean Bray Shamans
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>>150003129
Use your peasant hordes to tie up the enemy front lines. While they're getting into the fight, send cavalry after the enemy's archers and artillery to shut them down. Get as much cavalry as you can behind the enemy lines, then charge into their flanks while they butcher your peasants.

Shock cavalry (anything with lances) isn't meant for sustained fighting, so don't send them into the fray head-on.
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What the fuck is my plan supposed to be as Malagor? No matter where I go its just eheeee underway battles guys xD Eheee Top Knotz eheee!!!!1 Eheee Badlands attrition guise! Eheee no movement range!!!!!
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>>150003806
>mfw he's still at it
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>>150004053
I'm not replying to you beyond this post because you're a fucking retard. No one else should reward you with help either. I sincerely, strongly urge everyone else to not reply to this """post"""
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>>150004057
for every achievement a woman holds a man would definitely outshine her by a wide margin.
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Where do Beastmen get their weapons and armor? Armor that Minotaurs wear looks complicated, and i thought beastmen can't create anything better than a pile of shit when it comes to art
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>>150000250
Only if you're playing single player. It's abusiveness is ruining multiplayer to the point where people just leave if you play beastmen. I don't understand how this made it into the game.
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>tunnel under Grimgor and his waaagh
>intercepted by Grimgor's boys
>slap them around
>this deleted both Grimgor's army AND his waaagh, despite them not being involved
Wait, what
Is this a bug?
Whatever it is, this is literally the only good thing that has happened in the entire campaign so far.
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>>150004415
>complex

probably looted it off some bdsm brothel or some shit
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>>150004439
So it just affects moral right? And yea I don't touch TW multiplayer with a ten foot pole
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>>150004415
You're asking questions you're not supposed to ask.
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>>150004445
If you really wreck his shit his fightiness will plummet so low the waaagh dissipates.
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>>150003345
>>150003440
>>150003440
>>150003987
thanks buddies
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>>150004527
donated by some cult of slaanesh?
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>>150004659
cool screenshot lad

is there something you do to make it look so cinematic?
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>>150004567
Multiplayer is where i spend 90% of my time in every TW since M2.

It's basically a Fate of Bjuna + morale debuff which affects every unit within it's radius like debuffs do. Making it roughly 10 times more powerful than FoB.
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>>150004598
That makes sense. Seems like this is an easy way of dealing with waaaghs and other double armies then. Who needs lightning strike anyway.
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MUHAMMAD WAS WEAK, WITNESS TRUE RAPE

also, anyone having a bug where the second lvl of spells does jack shit for cooldown?
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>>150000098
>having men to commit on legendary
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>>150004445
Waaghs disappear when their parent army is destroyed.
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>>150004053
Rush Black Crag and afterwards Karaz-a-Karak for easy money.
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>>150004219
>mfw he's still telling himself this

Some Finnish guys did an investigation and found that Simo Häyhä only got about 250 kills.
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>>150004415

The lore says that Ungors craft them. Ungors are the only beastmen who have fine precision and dexterity with their hands, so they're responsible for making clothes, crafting gear and etching runes. They're the worker caste of the Beastmen.
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Beastmen are out already? Damn, didn't even realize since I haven't been playing lately. Are they worth it?
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>>150004807

https://sfx.thelazy.net/games/preset/5631/ This
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>>150005270

I had fun with them. Neat units and the GC is basically just about being an annoying little shit and making sure Archaon succeeds.
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>>150004984
You got me, I play on hard
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>>150005270
If you're a beastmen fan, yeah, otherwise, the free content that came with second edition would be pretty good (new battlemaps including the beastmen one, new wizard, a new ennemy to fight on the GC)
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>>150005057
>the commie bolshelviks never lie


also beaten by a man.
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>>150004952
It's actually better than FOB was in terms of damage before this patch nerfed it into the ground as well.

So yeah. The DLC and the patch team don't talk or some shit
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Game just bugged 20 turns into my normal campaign and gave me this achievement
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>>150006008
Use SAM to remove them if it bothers you so much.
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>>150005057
>>150005759
>mfw
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>Bray-Shamans can get +15 melee atk. with a single skill point
If I'd just get some ward save stuff they could kick ass in melee as well.
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>>150006147
Nah it's fine just thought it was weird.
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>>150005759
you really can't beleive the Russians, Germans or Japanese on WWII events and casualties etc seeing as they were all populist regimes driven by propaganda and a war ethic.
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>>150004976
The 2nd level does not affect overcast for some reason
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So when you win the Eye for an eye mini-campaign, do you unlock Boris Todbringer as a Legendary Lord in the grand campaign? I cant find any info about this
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>>150006008
You get that achievement for building a level 5 horde settlement, they switched them up.
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>>150006698
just mp and custom battles
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>>150006914
That's fucking stupid, what the fuck? Why even bother?
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>>150004659
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>>150006521
thank you, is that a bug for all spells or just devolve?
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>>150007150
Just wait a while, and someone will surely mod him into the GC as an LL.
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>>150007150
Because they thought it would be a nice easy thing to add in for people who play those modes. Making todbringer a LL for the GC would have been more difficult and would have required resources they didn't want to spend. Not to mention how he is already a leader for a faction on the GC map. Who would lead middenland?
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>there are """people""" in this thread right now that haven't bought Call of the Beastmen DLC.
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>>150007484
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>>150007484
>there are """people""" in this thread right now that haven't pirated Call of the Beastmen DLC.
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Which is the best Total War game?

http://www.strawpoll.me/10865040
http://www.strawpoll.me/10865040
http://www.strawpoll.me/10865040

Which is the best Total War game?

also why did they decide to start putting 'Total War' before the game's name after Napoleon?
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>>150007150
Why the fuck should you have to grind in offline modes which are nothing like the online games to unlock shit? Would you like it if you had to play multiplayer to get offline content?
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>>150007154
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>>150004976
how did you manage that?
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>>150007376

They really should have just split LLs into sub-factions instead of generic shit like 'The Empire.' Why couldn't there be a Reikland faction with Karl and a Middenland faction with Boris?

I hope someone can mod it eventually.
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>>150007484
Waiting for wood elves to come out
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>>150007697
Will the pirated DLC work with the original steam version? I always thought the dlc content will be tagged as non-original and won't be working in the game.

What will you see if you check on the game's DLC content? Will that DLC got tagged as owned then? As in you cant buy it proper after you pirated it?
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>>150007150
as retarded as it is, you should be able to get Boris if you confederate Middenland while he is alive

keep him away from assasins
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So I'm playing Malagor because he's cool as fuck, do I HAVE to clear our the Badlands? I've wiped out the Top Knotz, and I've been fighting southern lands.

But his quest wants me to go up north, so is there any reason to stay besides an autistic desire to burn all the map to the ground?

It's also still cute the AI can "luckily" stay out of my movement range.
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>>150007975
The LL start position mod has that, Gelt starts as Reikland.
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>>150007697
DENUVO BOIS!!! oh and also poor fags gtfo
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>>150007975
Not with the current retarded mod support

I wish that factions in Multiplayer were a drop down menu, so, if you pick "The Empire" you are given the choice between the subfactions

But this is CA so...
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>>150008050
yes it works and yes you could still buy it proper
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>>150007734
>also why did they decide to start putting 'Total War' before the game's name after Napoleon?

Because navigating the games list to find every single game was a pain in the ass, I'm glad they did it
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>>150008253

I like how they're so strict on this stupid system that in MP you can barely fucking tell which units are friendly or not because you're forced into using the same colour scheme. I can't fathom the reason behind removing colour and faction choice from fucking Warhammer of all things.
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>>150008364
>i am too retarded to sort my games

Games with total war in front of their titles are spinoffs of the total war series.
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>>150007887
i hide my troops on a sea of trees, went with malagor and casted devolve+1 on 6 of his units, that killed 120 of his troops, he tried to give chave but i went inside some woods with malagor and he started walking, casted devolve+1 again, then my army fought his, when i was going to lose(all my units were wavering) i casted devolve+1 again and he mass routed, he had only 1/4 health units at that point(310 vs 550)
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Someone tell me how to get good at beastmen please. It feels lik im doing jack shit against the Bretonnians.
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>>150007734
Brand recognition.
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>>150008609
Epic
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>>150008537
It would cost too many jabbers to create an army painter
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>>150008714
Use more spears and fewer Ungors.
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ZOMBIES AINT SHIT BUT HOES N TRICKS
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>>150008881
>Vincent the Drunk
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>>150008978
didnt even notice that lol
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>>150008978
Based Mousillon.
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>>150008881
>that army
you gotta be using mods surely
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>>150009231
in what way?
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They died waiting for a crusade that never came
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Steady men, their magic is useless against the servants of the Lad-
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>heh, with my superior agility, I will be able to parry this clumsy oaf's blow with ease
t. skeledexfag
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>>150008714
Replace everything with Minotaurs

thank me later :^)
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>>150007484
>paying 1/3rd of a full price game for a small campaign pack
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>Typical American
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>>150009621
-BLUGHARGHAACK
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>>150007154
neat

What parameters did you use?
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Khazraks voice kind of makes me aroused

help
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>>150009675
delet
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>>150009865
Are you by any chance a qt red-haired wood elf woman?
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>>150008091
I got out of there asap.
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>>150010005
N_o
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STRIKE OUT

EVERY

GRUDGE
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>>150009675
if only that skelly had a katana folded a gorillion times instead of a filthy rusted scimitar
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I want to be dominated by a best elf!
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>>150010240
That was the absolute height of technology at the time he was entombed. His people were forging with iron while Sigmar's lot were still trying to crawl over the mountains to get away from orcs.
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Any way I can take my Brayherd into a quest battle?
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>>150009795
>eagle wizard not named hulk hogan
why is CA so shit?
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>>150009795
Why would you kill a bigass eagle just to wear it if you are a wizard dedicated to the power of nature?
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How am I supposed to do this fall of man battle?

Am I just being retarded, the entire map's basically already razed.
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*record scratch*

*freeze frame*

RAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGH
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It seems i found some smart humans in these cucked lands, do you guys wager my merry band can take em?
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>>150009858
Just standard setting FotoSketcher gave me, I have no idea about editing anything otherwise
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Why is the advisor Raven white in beastmen campaign?

Also why do beastmen hate man so much?
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>>150011785
Minotaurs have a serious case of rape-face
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>>150011983
No
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>>150011983
they'll be routed before they finish climbing the wall
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>>150012076
>Why is the advisor Raven white in beastmen campaign?

Because he's a servant of Chaos

Listen to the introduction blurb of the beastmen campaign, Khazrak received a vision from the dark gods to accept him.

>Also why do beastmen hate man so much?

Because man strives for Order, whereas Beastmen are Chaos in it's purest form.
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>>150012076
But it's always white.
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>>150012257
The Raven is black in every campaign except beastmen.
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Im doing a malagor on VH and i am getting my ass blasted.

I took all the savage orc settlements, however they now have a full banner of savage orcs that are chasing my shit armies that cant even replenish troops.

Am i gonna have to restart from the beginning, any advice? Not sure if its because im on VH but the ungors cant hold up to savage orcs for more than a few seconds, and the only unit that can do anything is the giant and raiders.
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>>150012396
Really? I'm certain I saw the white raven.
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>>150012419
You shouldn't be using ungors at all late game.
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>>150012396
I know it's white in the Chaos Warrior campaign
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>>150012419
Don't stay in the badlands for too long, going up from the right side instead of the left sounds like a better idea.
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>>150012419

Use your forest path thing to flee East and just jump back and forth across the sea.
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>Forsaken in the Dark
>Gors in the Light
>this was the last time they spoke as friends
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>>150007734
wow i didn't expect that many people to think warhammer is the best total war game. hisfags btfo
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>>150012492
Check again I've played every campaign I'm certain beastmen are the only ones where the Raven is white.
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>>150011715

Anyone help this? I literally have no idea how to finish this campaign.
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>>150012545
Late game? its my first 10 turns.

>>150012569
Tried that, got intercepted then its 7 half dead units vs a savages. Maybe if i load an earlier save might work. Is there a way to make them stop chasing you ?
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>>150012128
>>150012135
i am going to do it guys, i cant let a man that is every buzzword in existence alive, his blood will please the god of tolerance and "equality"!
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>>150012694
>watch the dorf intro
>it's a white raven
Hmmm.
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>>150012694
Oh shit my bad I'm wrong. So in chaos campaigns it's white, neat
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>>150012802

Try taking out the armies they have roaming around before going for their cities at the start of the campaign.
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>>150012076
>>150012257
>>150012396
>>150012492
>>150012694
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qOr_jkFk_90
It's always white.
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With the new end time event, who lead the beastmen of chaos?
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>>150012965
Yea my bad I was wrong. No idea why I thought it was black in certain campaigns.
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>>150013084

A random Beastlord.
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>>150012878
Change it to Mexico the rape omen
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Fall of Man is the best Quest battle am I right /twg/?
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>>150013363

It was a nice touch but really trivial with an end-game army.
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>>150013363
>>150011715

Halp.

I have no idea how I'm even supposed to get it.
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>>150011785
Warriors of Chaos and Beastmen look pretty damn cool together, especially Bestigors and Chaos Warriors
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>>150013363
The though of Beastmen ruling the Old World is worse than Orcs doing it.
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>>150013363
Stupid easy like all other quest battles.
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>>150013724
>>150013508
With this battle the easy difficulty is justified though, it's a desperate dying people's last stand against inhumanity.

The Fact that it's easy only makes their final effort against you even more pitiful.

If the greatest warriors of Humanity couldn't stand against the True Children of Chaos, what are they in comparison?
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>>150013517

You get it after you destroy all your objective factions.
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>>150014083
The Empire is still alive in >>150013917 though, I think you get it when you reach the final chapter of the campaign objectives.
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>>150014083
>>150014212

I hope it's factions because if I have to do all chapter objectives it'll literally be impossible for me to finish the campaign.
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>>150013617

I hope when Daemons are out Chaos can confederate and form the Hordes of Chaos.
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>>150014312

I literally did it an hour ago. I nuked every single AI province except Altdorf and it didn't trigger. I sieged it for 10 turns to see if it would pop and nothing. I got it as soon as I destroyed the Empire faction afterwards.
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What accent do Drofs have?

Part of me thinks it's some bastardised Yorkshire accent

t. Sheffielder
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The strength of humanity may have faltered, but the spirit of Freedom™ remains.
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I feel like all the armies treat you like a really serious threat in the normal beastmen faction which is neat. I'm having dwarves, empire, and Bretonia sending full stacks at me.
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>>150014591

Newcastle
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Oi /twg/

Wheres the mod that makes the Chaos Invasion more difficult, but not that insane mod made by the chinese fella.
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When is this game getting new factions, I don't want to buy it so long as there are only 5 or so

Where are the elves
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>>150009789
Not him but by bying this and not going to a bar this weekend saved me about 100 euros so i think its a win
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>>150014549

Thank fuck, thanks anon.
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>>150013295
>>150012128
>>150012135
It seems i was able to stump the Trump, but when i got to the throne i only found a hologram, he must be building walls somewhere else
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>>150014591
Yeah it's a Yorkshire accent.

Northerner dwarfs>Scottish dwarfs
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>>150014884
Elves in october, brets in december, tk in february, expension 1 maybe around next summer, skaven also next summer
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Btw have any of you noticed that an empire hero or what it was who says "you summoned me?" Sounds exactly the same that a troll or something says in warcraft 3 (sorry cant remember the names). Like its literally the same clip
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>>150015241
>>>/wowg/
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What do you guys think the next non-faction DLC is gonna be? Which factions need heroes/lords/units the most?

I'm hoping for some Greenskin stuff. They still don't have any goblin LLs or squigs.
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>>150015850
If I recall, those lords DLC are suposed to show some rivalry or something between 2 characters

Maybe Skarsnik alongside squigs as the unit, against maybe Grimm Burloksonn as he's not a close-combat LL
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>>150015850
going by the freedlc picture its vampire cunts and greenskin LLs
and every hero is for empire
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>>150014775
Its not like Geordie at all, definitely an East Yorkshire accent.
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Beastway intercepts are full on fucking retarded. They should only intercept you if they're actually in your path, not when you're running from them and they're miles behind. I'm so salty it's literally just ended my legendary campaign.
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>enable southern realms mod
>only kislev is in the menu

Wew
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>>150018019
Faction unlock mods are broken right now. They will also overwrite the beastmen. They won't show up and Boris looks like pre patch.
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>>150009675

why have the hooked blades? do they plan on castrating someone?
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>>150017901
>Beastmemes are an actual threat
Isn't that a good thing?
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How antifun is the campain AI in total Borhammer?
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is age of charlemagne gud?
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Would you fuck a gor /twg/?
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>>150018957
yea its really good imo
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In what world does this make sense?
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>>150019037
No I only go for Bestigors sorry
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I was having fun playin my game yesterday and now when i just want a few minutes of fun, i cant because there is a fucking patch.Is there any way to not have to wait for the stupid shit to download before i can continue to play my game? Is it also going to break some mods?

Fuck this steam shit, ths is why i pirate.
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>>150019419
Should've turned off auto updates.
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>>150019169
Sarthoreal probably promised Gelt tonnes of Wizard-bucks if he helped. He is a wizard after all.
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>>150019631
you cant, its either automatic update or update when the game launches, there is no "im ok with this version and i dont care about further patches" option.
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>>150019419
God you're an idiot. All of the updates are selectable and you can back up mods for that version before the update drops, but instead you just ignore everything given to you and whine at us and blame steam for your shitty internet.
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>>150020112
You can play the game without updating? How?
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>Betrayed by my own Brayherd
This isn't supposed to happen, is it?
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>>150020720
Right click -> Properties -> Betas -> Patch 1

Most of your mods still wont work because they've been updated for patch 2
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>>150020763
what? How did you manage to do that?

Do they still carry your flag?
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>>150020856
Actually your current version might be nvidiacloudfix since that came out between patch 1 and 2.
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>>150020856
That apparently works, thanks, you are my heroe
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>>150021093
They refused to join my war, and then went hostile.
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>>150021178
the absolute madmen
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>>150009364
Dat army upkeep for all those bestigors, Minos and cygors
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>>150021460
Not him, but are you not aware that Beastmen get a building that gives -50% upkeep, and that the lord can further reduce that with a skill? Also, it's not like he needs to stay at positive income.
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>>150021460
Perk that reduces upkeep by 15% and building that reduces it by an extra 50%
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Is there a mod to make the ally ai less stupid? Or at least a mod that can make razed settlements a war target? At least I can try to make them do something useful
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>>150021178
>>150020763
Happened to me as well.

It must be some bug, cuz i can't attack them. The guy on the map with the Brayherd banner isn't hostile so i can't attack him, yet his units are in red.
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>>150021706
>>150021789
Yeah I know the perk and the building. Both are essential.
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>>150022207
There was some issue with the Waaaghs earlier too, but that was supposed to be fixed. They must have reintroduced the bug, or it found a new way to express itself.
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Grimgor you traitorous piece of shit.
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>>150022606
Well to be fair he does hate orcs, doesn't like dwarfs though.
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>>150022606
How does this even happen?
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>>150022606
>Grimgor
>Estate Owner
That's a hilarious mental picture.
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>>150022906
Grudging respect
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>tfw no purple weapons have dropped
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>>150022929

I like to think grimgors estate is just a hut in the swamp
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>>150023390
There are purple items that aren't legendary lord gear? I've beaten the game 5 times and the best normal items I've seen are blues.
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>>150023586
Are you saying he's secretly an ogre?
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>>150023234
Understandable, but should that really affect your morale when you fight them?

>>150023586
That actually sounds kinda comfy desu.
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Finally got Warhammer. Any recommended mods?
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>>150023904
better state shields
better orc shields
empire state troops
the southern realms
eastern states recolor
Middenland recolor
varied zombies
loading wallpapers
beastmen color variation (early wip)
better thicker smoke
more marauder shields

If you want a lore-friendly and varied campaign
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>>150024120
*empire state troops officers

also the golden and blue shields mod for dwarfs, and decals for bretonnian shields
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>>150023904
Better AI recruitment is practically mandatory, otherwise you'll get AI armies comprised of nothing but artillery or pistoleers.
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Who /CheesingTheAI/ here?
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Nagash was _____
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>>150024483
cute
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>>150007484
>there are people who actually like beastmen
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>>150023767
It's the kinda respect that earns you grudges
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>>150024743
>there are people who don't actually like bestmen
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>>150024480
>still using zombie
>no vergheist
>does not use 2h-sword graveguard for extra peneration against dwarf
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>>150023767
If the men don't respect YOUR respect for the Greenskins, they'll lose confidence in you
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Is the achievement for completing the Beastmen grand campaign glitched?

I hit all short and long victory conditions, killed literally every other faction off the map so its just my horde sitting there and still no achievement. I did however the the 'eye for an eye' one after completing the short victory conditions.
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>>150025210
>tfw got 3/4 of the beastmen achievement for no reason
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>>150024483
a lolicon
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>>150024120
>beastmen color variation
I'm not sure, but are Beastmen now a regular part of campaign without actually having them?
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>>150025449
Yes.
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>>150025210
I completed grand campaign as Beastmen, got the achievement for Beastmen legendary victory, but not the regular one, as it's probably bugged.
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>>150025449
yes, as AI faction, there's 3 tribe at turn 1, another during the end times and some can appear on the map
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>>150023234
Fucking Dwarfs are worse scum than chaos

>tearing apart the northern empire states
>dwarfs declare war on Kislev and flatten them
Okay
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Is Warhammer actually good or is it just a meme?
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GET HYPED
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>>150026034
Warhammer Total War is good.
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>>150026034
Just a meme
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>>150025891
it seems like no matter which faction i play, dwarfs will inevitably stab me in the back and send massive doomstacks fueled by their powerful economy
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>>150026034
40k is better.
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>>150026034

As long as you're not the kind of person that cries tears from your gaping pussy about DLC being expensive.
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Do a general's army bonus apply to reinforcing armies?

Do you skill all your generals the same way? For example for empire I normally grab honest steel for everyone, but it makes the game too easy.
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>>150026113
>grey wizard
>amber wizard
>jade wizard
How many different colours of magic is there?
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>>150026461
Usually Karl is the one that I spec RIP AND TEAR, the other lords get skilled based on what I need
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>>150026496
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>>150026496
Eight nigga
One for each point on the chaos star
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>>150026034
If you're talking about the board game and GW side of things then Warhammer is pretty much cancer. One of the worst companies to exist and has some of the most deplorable employees/fans.

Total War is pretty fun, if very basic.
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>>150026113
Is that a fucking necron? Thanks, GW.
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>>150026496

8, the game currently features 6 the other 2 are guaranteed to be in. There are other lores of magic but they're all part of races not yet in the game.
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>>150026562
i never found it worth it to spec LL for melee, it seems like the only difference it makes is that they will get 150 kills instead of 100

meanwhile, you could be buffing your entire army and making it drastically more effective in combat
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why are they throwing cows at me? is this an insult because i am beastmen?
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To those wondering how to confederate the beastmen tribes to get this victory condition: if you're at war with them (and the shadow-kin seem to always declare against my beastherds) request confederate *at the same time* as offering a peace treaty. As an example the second faction I confederated with was red to confederate when I was at peace with them, but I declared war then straight away offered peace + confederation (both now green) and they went for it.
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>>150026623
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>>150027035
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>>150026583
>>150026113
So with this DLC the empire will have access to 7 of the 8 lores.

AMETHYST WIZARD WHEN?!
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>>150026926
how many tribes are even there?
in my campaign, i met 2 tribes so far, but they both died instantly the turn after to other factions (playing on VH so AI has quite a few stacks)

am i fucked?
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>>150026806
One of the primary reasons for building the lord for melee is to kill the enemy lord fast. And you can still get select red and blue skills, because you don't need all the yellow ones.
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>>150026113
>wood elves soon
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I imagine it's not that problematic, but it seems a lot of the texture mods haven't updated yet so the game mod manager is screaming about it.

Surely they're fine to use because they're textures, right?
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>>150027217
i see
i always use specialized units to deal with enemy lords later on anyways
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>>150027191
I found 5 in my playthrough I think.
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>>150027112
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>>150027191
At least three (jagged-horn, shadowgor, red-something). I'm also pretty sure the shadow-cunts respawned after they got wiped out by hochland too. However the red-something tribe got wiped out even earlier though and never reappeared, so maybe it's luck/RNG/whatever.
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> Tomb Kings still not announced
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>>150027812
Hey.

I went on the games workshop model shop website to look for these tomb kings but I didn't see them anywhere.

Who are these guys?
>>
Why don't the beastmen have harpies?
Why don't the beastmen have mutants?
Why don't the beastmen have actual model variety that shows how they mutate representing grotesque parodies of man and beast?
Why don't units have officers and show upgrades like musicians?
Why doesn't each faction have a unique adviser?
Why doesn't the game have visual representations of upgraded units like in medieval 2 where a shitty unit of spears is just shown wearing cloth, and fully upgraded has chainmail and plates?
Why is the music so fucking shit compared to Attila and why are the voice actors still terrible?
Why are there no quest chains or at least mini text adventures?
Why is their no cool tutorial campaign?
Why are there no mercenaries?
Why can't I import new models and animations and make new maps?
Why don't the chaos factions have units dedicated to a specific god?
Why don't the different empire factions actually have unique units from their respective regions?
Why are the different empire factions represented by generic lords instead of their actual ones?
Why are there no duel/matched animations between the different lords and monsters?
Why are most of the animations so terrible, and why were matched animations removed when they added a lot of visual flair to the fights?

Why is the answer to every single one of the questions greed?
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>it's a minotaur mosh pit episode
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>>150027180

Probably, Empire is supposed to be the most flexible faction in the game. But it doesn't matter once the Lore of Life comes out. If it ends up being anything like TT, every empire army will be equipped with a Jade Wizard that can mass heal, and resurrect whole armies.

See: Vampire Cunts and how they use Invocation of Nakkaasfjafj to mass heal at the end of battles. It'll basically be like that for the Empire.
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Send Beastmen economy tips please.
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>>150027112
>Warrior Priests are an iconic Empire unit
>Only one variant in game
>Only one weapon type
Kinda disappointed.
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>>150028096
>get economy tech
>get money skills
>raid and sack
>get upkeep reduction building when appropriate
It's not rocket science.
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>>150028090
That's not how I use them.

I always combo soul blight + nightmares for -22 leadership to their whole battle line then cough on them, they almost always run even if they haven't taken much in the way of damage.
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>>150028096
Raid and hide, if it looks like enemy armies are chasing you down, use a beast path, hide, then get back to raiding.
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Wow Minotaurs really tear up gates stupidly quick. No waiting for siege equipment for me.
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>>150028030
>Why don't the beastmen have mutants?
>Why don't the beastmen have actual model variety that shows how they mutate representing grotesque parodies of man and beast?

Because those were never part of Beastmen lore?
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>>150028002
delet
>>
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>>150028252

How many versions of Bald Guy With A Hammer can they possibly make?

>>150028527

>maybe if I pretend to be a dog they won't kill me
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>>150026825
FECHEZ LA VACHE
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>>150028527
>poor little white guy
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>>150028451
What?
Their ENTIRE model range got deleted?

Awww, that's so sad. Is that why you're pinning all your hopes on this game?
The only thing in the world that will validate the existence of your (no pun intended) dead faction?
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>>150028252

The Empire hero roster is already bloated and redundant enough. And we still have 2 more to go with the FLC.
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>>150028030
Most of these can be answered with lazyness too
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>>150028970
Atleast it's better than chaos manlets who have never been more than a hopeful pipedream.
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>>150028030

>Why don't the beastmen have harpies?

Because Dark Elf expansion.

>Why don't the beastmen have mutants?

Pretty much all Beastmen are mutants.

>Why don't the beastmen have actual model variety

Because that shit is expensive and resource intensive.

>Why don't units have officers and show upgrades like musicians?

Asked myself this question, would like to at least see Sergeants like other TW games have.

>Why doesn't each faction have a unique adviser?

Voice actors are expensive.

>Why doesn't the game have visual representations of upgraded units

Costs money.

>Why is the music so fucking shit

Eh, I kinda liked VC's music.

>Why are there no quest chains or at least mini text adventures?

Because they knew a lot of people would just click through them.

>Why is their no cool tutorial campaign?

Mini-campaigns are as good as you're going to get.

>Why are there no mercenaries?

Because then they'd have to model and texture all the unique heraldry and textures. Also Sartosa/Tilea expansion possible.

>Why can't I import new models and animations and make new maps?

Because if you could then modders would have every faction in the game within 6 months and SEGA would have a hard time pushing DLC.

>Why are the different empire factions represented by generic lords instead of their actual ones?

Same reason there's no Sergeants or Mercenaries. Art assets cost a lot of money and they can't re-use most unit assets like in other TW games.

>Why are there no duel/matched animations between the different lords and monsters?

See above.

>Why are most of the animations so terrible, and why were matched animations removed when they added a lot of visual flair to the fights?

Matched animations disrupt the flow of battle and make the larger/more powerful units less useful fighting large groups. That and it's hard to code the game's combat AI to figure out when to use matched animations and when not to.
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How the fuck do I Yeastmen?

There's no settlements I can raze because Not Spain and Not France actually have income and can build an army.

Fuck I hate Horde mechanics so much.
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>>150028030
>Why don't the beastmen have harpies?
But they do!
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>>150028030
>Why don't the beastmen have harpies?
Technically they do with the Winged Spy follower, but as an actual unit yeah there's nothing.
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MAN KNEEL

MAN BOW TO BEAST MAN

KILL MAN GOOD
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I know it's immature, and a waste of time compared to autoresolving, but finishing off dudes with a big rock to the face is just so much fun.
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>get a gorebull with replenishing HP
[happy mooing intensifies]
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G O B L I N S
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>>150029415
Pick on soft targets and do ambushes until you're strong enough to take the hard targets. Also consider that maybe hordes are not for you, it's really not that hard.
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>>150029941
I wait for you every thread. You're late.
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>>150029740
how good are cygors? i haven't actually tried them yet
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It's hilarious that so many people can't figure out how to play beastmen. Just sack and raze settlements holy shit.
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WE

WUZ

GOBBOS
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>>150030216
That one's been getting lots of kills in every battle so far. Smashing 18 chumps off a wall with its first rock was a particular highlight. And, having it forces any enemy without artillery to come to me.
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>>150030367
It's people failing to play chaos all over again. My guess is that they never learned how to play a horde in Attila.
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>>150028030
The full modding tools aren't actually released yet, expect full model/animation work when those are released.
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>>150030367
Odd cause beasties are WoC with none of the weaknesses.
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Beastmen are kinda sexy?
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>>150028030
Matched animations were fucking garbage
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>>150030734
Wanna go for a yiff in the woods, man-filth?
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>Devolve
What the fuck is this bullshit? Who tested this?
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Does Pile of Flesh and Desecrated Altar -upkeep% affect the whole faction or just the horde it's in?
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>>150031060
Just the horde.
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>>150031007
Now I aint gay but If I wouldnt mind going into the woods and getting fucked by these boyz.
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>>150030546
You still think there's hope anon? I'm not so sure.
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>>150031309
With those delts and traps they're certainly on roids, so their balls will be so small that you'll be safe. No chance of touching.
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>>150031495
Yfw chaos is just steroids
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>>150026337
Why are steam reviews always so salty?

Its ridiculous to have 342 hours and not recommend a game.

"Great base game, too bad they are gouging us for dlc. $20 for each race coming out? Holy smokes that's going to be hundreds of dollars by the time I'm done..."

Funniest thing is this guy bought the DLC, and has beat both the mini campaign and the GC as Beastmen.
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>>150031351
Those tools have got to come with something.
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>>150031773
$20 is ridiculous for a race pack, though.

>B-But the boring mini-campaign that nobody cares about and doesn't add shit but a new tiny map
Nah. If they want to charge $20 for that and a reasonable price for the races I'm fine, but as it is I'm just pirating this shit.
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>>150031925
20 dollars is a fair price for the beastmen pack. Your just fucking entitled.
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Do you guys think we'll be getting a campaign pack for wood elves like we have with beastmen? I reckon if we do it'll almost definitely be in their forest, but who would we be fighting? I know beastmen have threatened their lands before, but I don't know if CA would want to release two campaign maps involving beastmen so close in time to eachother.
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>>150031925
If you dont like it dont buy it.

Why are these people buying it and then complaining? And if you get a $1 of entertainment per hour its a good deal in my books, name any other medium you get that value for money.
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>>150032062
>20 dollars is a fair price for the beastmen pack.
No, it really isn't.

>you're just entitled
Yes, I am. Because I'm a consumer and not some kind of tremendous faggot that worships a company and blindly accepts their rates.
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>>150031901
>record scratch
>Now i bet youz wunderin' 'ow i gots in dis situation 'ere
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>>150032172
>If you dont like it dont buy it.
That's the plan, senpai. Pirated it for now and I'll buy it when it's half off at least.
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>>150032402
How can you pirate DLC?
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>>150031901

Hello fellow flier
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>>150032467
Google and download creamapi, put the DLC in your Warhammer data folder, replace the .dll, play offline and enjoy free content.
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>>150031925
$14

;^)
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total war: warhams on one screen
>lecture recording of lecture i missed on other screen
>/twg/ on last screen
living
the
life
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>>150019169
Back again
>Aesling, my vassal, has conquered most of Norsca
>on good relations with me and weaker
>fight some top knotz orcs
>Aesling refused to join and are now at war with me

Fuck it, I'm so fucking sick of wandering around in the North doing shit all
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>>150032624
Can you not get VAC banned?

Does that mean you always have to appear offline.
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Did a couple of custom battles of Boris vs Kazrak (playing each twice for STATISTICS and getting the same result each time). I found:
>Boris (on foot, no upgrades) vs Khazrak (on foot, no upgrades) - Khazrak annihilates Boris, like 75% health left
>Boris (on horse, with special abilities, runefang, no potions) vs Khazrak (on foot, no upgrades) - Boris wins by the skin of his teeth (under 10% health left)
>Boris (on horse, with special abilities, runefang, no potion) vs Khazrak (on chariot, with special abilities, scourge, no potions) - Boris wins easily (takes no damage at all)
Which is all very confusing. Seems Khazrak is the better fighter by a distance unless he's on a chariot, in which case his effectiveness in a dual disappears.
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>>150032139
Beastmen, greenskins and Brets are most likely.
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so can we get a LL ranking, after the most recent patch?

Is grimgor still da strongest?
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>>150032803
You don't appear offline, you play in offline mode. Or just turn off your wifi.
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>>150032930
you gotta use khazrak as the leadership crutch he really is Gorebull fights lords better imo.

Boris for emperor tho get out of my fucking drakwald peepoopee!
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>>150033028
Kholek destroys Grimgor.
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Why the fuck is Karl Fucking Franz in the Southern Badlands 30 turns in trying to kill me.

They should probably fix this.
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>>150033028
Manfred will always be number 1
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Alright goys gimme a hand; is Call of the Beastmen worth the money, or should I get Steel Armor: Blaze of War instead?
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>>150033193
Ok, that seems a bit annoying.

But i suppose if you cant afford DLC its a good option.
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As Vampire cunts, what triggers the free Vampire agent to spawn?
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>>150033451
Is that a graphics glitch, or does that guy front, right-centre have an outrageous moustache?
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>>150033508
>is Call of the Beastmen worth the money
Depends how much money you have.

It's fun, but if you have other things to do with your $20 I wouldn't exactly call Call of the Beastmen the first priority.
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>>150033508
Neither
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>>150033653
probably some blood on his face or shit seeing he's literally devolving at this moment.
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>>150033653
No idea. It might be blood from him and his friends Devolving.
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>>150001786
What race is /u/?
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Chaos seems really good now, chosen are defenaitly the best infantry now and even the regular ones beat GS's now, and all the dragon ogre types beat other monsters now thanks to the anti large bonus so their huge cost is somewhat justified now,I haven't tested them against halberd demi's or BK yet but it's promising that they beat arachnok now.
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>>150033508
Yeah, it's worth the money. Beastie boys are a lot of fun, and, despite copying mechanics from other factions, they don't feel like any other faction to play.

I know fuck all about tank simulators though, so can't comment on whether that particular tank simulator is any good.
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>>150033898
now now now now now now now now now now now now now now now now now now now now now now now now now now now now now now now now now now now now now now now now now now
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>>150034164
First thing I saw too.
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>>150034164
then then then then then then then then then then then then then then then then then then then then then then then then
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>>150033508
Honestly it's not worth the money and is a ripoff, but I have plenty of disposable income and bought it and it's still good, the best ment are fun and are not OP, but not weak either and are quite string from what I've seen.

It just doesn't justify the pricetag, it should be the same or a little more than the culture packs from atilla, but sadly it's probably gonna be the continued practice from CA now that they know people buy it anyways.

Tl dr: it's a good dlc, but not worth the price, buy it if you can afford it or wait till a sale.
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Are Beastmen the easiest faction?
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>>150034626
No, VC are. You don't even have to play the game as VC. Chaos do everything for you.
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>>150034626
In singleplayer they can get broken pretty easily, in mp no, they have decent troops especially the minotaur units, but little to no armor, so it will take some skill to use em right. Some of their magic is broken but will probably be nerfed next patch.
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>>150034313
why the fuck is sigvald so big? is he a norscan or is that a mod?
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>>150034817

I think he's just a big guy
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>>150034817
The Norscan are larger than normal men, due to only the strongest surviving the wastelands they live in.
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>>150033898
Did the patch buff chosen or something? I was doing pretty good with chaos pre patch
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>>150034807
>In singleplayer they can get broken pretty easily
Haven't tried mp but my single player campaign was spent harassing weak settlement and avoiding lords when Chaos arrived they had no way to stop them.
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>>150034626
Yes. Bestagor+Minotaur+Centagor are OP and beat any of their racial equivalents.
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>>150022331

Then shut the fuck up.
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> and why were matched animations removed when they added a lot of visual flair to the fights?

Because people constantly complained and asked to have them removed?
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>>150035162
Minotaurs still lose to the greenskins giant spider and dragon ogres(it's close though), not to mention are very vulnerable to missles.

They are good but not broken, please don't tell me people are already crying for nerfs, their magic is broken, but the roster is fine.
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How do I get intercepted by armies so fucking far away with beastpath

It's fucking retarded.
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>>150029024
'Cuz He's Karl Mother-fucking Franz.
'Nuff said!
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>>150035162
That's all a lie.

In fact beastmen 1v1 can't beat any of their similar units.

Centigors can't beat any knight units.

Besatgors can't beat chosen, great swords or hammerers.

Minotaurs are good but giants beat them, and cost the same.

Also halberds counter minotaurs hard.
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>>150030026
I had surgery, leave me alone
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>>150036060
I agree with you on most, but I'm pretty sure minotaurs beat giants, giants are awful and lose to most shit that ain't a bunch of low-end tier infantry with no anti large bonus.
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>>150036060
>Minotaurs are good but giants beat them, and cost the same.
Great weapon minotaurs slaughter giants.
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>>150036320
They have anti-large, they are same unit style as demi with halberd and blood knights.

Do they beat those two units?

Also how do slayers fare?
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>>150028970
Partially yeah.

I just love the idea of a true neutral undead empire. They have living people in their cities! They don't raise random people from the dead, all of their skeletons are soldiers who pledged their existence to their lord in life and death. Their border cities actually have less undead then living cause trade and such.
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>>150028774
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The agent spam in the mini campaign is bloody awful seems even worse than a chaos campaign.
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Devolve needs to be patched urgently
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My game's crashing so much since the DLC, what the hell?
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6SKI9rgqFck

Is this Chinese warhammer

I am not Gook
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>>150037532
Why? It's not like the AI has the nous to spam it. If you've so little self-control that you're spamming it to win battles you might as well turn the game down onto Easy while you're at it, you clearly don't actually want to be challenged.
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>>150037806
This better not be yet another movie of Mighty McWhitey or I will be fucking pissed
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>>150037809
>it's fine if something's completely overpowered for its cost because you don't have to use it
also, multiplayer
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>>150038001
>playing Total War multiplayer
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>>150037936
China makes a lot of evil whitey shit though. So fuck them.
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>>150036060
Did some experimenting in custom battles:

Centigors defeat Empire Knights with 45 men left.
Bestigors lose to Greatswords with 22 left (Greatswords had 18).
Giants are not the equivalent to Minotaurs, trolls are, which Minotaurs defeat with 11 left. Minotaurs also defeat giants with 8 left.

Also note that one of Beastmen's biggest advantages is the array of buffs they can easily get. A few skill upgrades with a Gorebull and Beastmen units have more leadership than dwarfs. A few with Khazrak and they have something like a +30% weapon damage. With these as well there really is nothing that they don't beat.
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>>150037936
Constance Wu is way ahead of you my 朋友

http://www.ew.com/article/2016/07/29/constance-wu-matt-damon-great-wall-racist-myth
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>Try to start VC campaign
>get bored because no amount of headcanon can get rid of Manny Von autism.
>Try Dawi
>Get bored after curbstomping Grimgor in like 40 turns and the whole of the badlands around 60 turns.
>Dont wanna do Chaos again yet
>dont wanna do Greens again
>Dont want to do Mousillon again.

How much fun is Empire now? Also waifus for Empire when?
Do they even allow girls in the Empire's military?
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>>150038623
How do minotaurs with GW fair against demi's and Blood knights.
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question, are marauders considered as "large"? I mean they're like 8 feet tall, kinda makes sense to categorize them under "large"
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>>150038623
Additionally even against Demigryph Knights Centigors, although they routed a second later so it's pretty much 50/50 or whoever gets the charge.
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>>150038967
Yes as camp followers
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>>150039098
Demigryph Knights Centigors win*
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>>150039228
That would've been a nice Radious unit
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Whats a good way to beat those ranged cav units? Its a giant pain to just set a unit after them and just chase them till the end of the battle.

Also I just beat the original campaign with Beast men. Did the AI seem a litttle different? It was kinda boring. Didn't even get a chance to build Centis. No one would fight me. They just go to their capitol city when they see me and I just have to do Sieges. Just started Autoresolving.

And for the Horde playstyle. Is it best to just disband injured/low health units and just purchase new ones? It sucks when you fight a battle and have to sit around until the full moon and hope that you get a good unit restore skill.
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>>150039028
Minotaurs win against demigryphs with 9 left, blood knights win against Minotaurs with 25 left (Minotaurs had 4 left).
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>>150039579
Crossbowmen/Handgunners.
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>>150039579
Merge don't just punt. Saves you a bunch of favor.

AI has always done that for me. It usually means the army stack would normally lose to your horde, so they retreat to towns for more units.
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Everyone but Middenheim is dead. Marionburg is alive on the side with two settlements. I have one warherd stack left and it doesn't make much money. Best buildings. Can't take on the roaming doom tri-army doom stacks that defend the enemy.

Should I disband most of my guys and hide until I can amass a massive amount of money to fund another stack? I'd have to hide for at least one hundred turns.

I just had the one army the whole game, everyone just died. I'm playing on Hard, all my opponents ate shit now there is a mega empire I'm facing and I have no source of income.
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>>150039579
I just autoresolve if the ai has too many ranged cav
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>siege last dwarf city ad beastmen
>surrounded by 4 neutral greenskin armies
>they declare war on me as soon as the siege is over
Fuck you
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who win? 39 cygors vs 6241 goblin spearmen
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- Siege hold out time is ridiculous. The Beastmen must throw in some incredibly powerful shits or something.
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What are some fun mods for the Empire?
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>>150040383
Cygor's obviously. Goblin spearmen doesn't even have a bonus against large.
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>>150033895
Lahmian Vampires.
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>>150040762
correct
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Playing beastie boys. Do you go for growth or money when razing? It seems growth is super important. Should I bline to the growth general skills?
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>>150041063
>Do you go for growth or money when razing?
Both
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Has anyone played with Empire Regional recruitment since the beasty boyz update? Does it break the game?
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>>150040428
If you have a single gorebull and a unit of Minotaurs just break the gate down. I haven't played them on GC yet but I the most I would wait in the mini campaign was one turn so the extra bray herd could catch up and reinforce and the. I just bust the door down and start the raping.
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Is there a reason to grab cannons over hellstorms? Even the volleygun? The hellstorms just does insane amount of damage, and does not require a clear line of sight.

And I mean who cares if it hits some line infantry, right?
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>>150041293
I know, but I was referring to how fast you can starve them when you stack holdout reduction. When I can starve even Altdorf down to half the garrison in 3 turns, or a quarter in 4, I can take almost no casualties when taking a settlement. It's really powerful.
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>todd is automatically your boy in GC since beastmen expansion

yeah buddy
i normally bumrush him since middenland is prime real estate for pumping out high vet armies
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>>150024279
Are those officer mods working again? I thought they were broken after the first patch
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>>150041063
Growth general skills are really important. Not only do they let you sack more (+8 for a settlement isn't that great anymore when the lord gives +9 each turn), they also let you get the -upkeep -growth building earlier without stopping growth.
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>>150041430
Aren't cannon anti large and volleygun armor piercing?
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>have dawi shits cornered in two settlements
>crush two full stacks
>two turns later they have a stack of 15 out of fucking nowhere

I wish legendary provided an actual challenge instead of straight up cheating.
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>Need beastmen DLC for Todbringer to get his unique lord model in the GC
ree.
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>>150041430
cannons continuously stagger lords and giant monsters, they are good for knocking down towers during seigers, look cooler, and are cheaper i think
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>it's a Spain and France team up to fuck you in the ass episode
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>>150042087
>it's a you will never be a doombull slave getting fucked in the ass every night episode
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I tried Attila in anticipation for that upcoming Medieval mod, but I can't stand that it runs at 20-50 fps even on good machines. Should I just go all the way back to Medieval II? Does it hold up still after a decade?
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>>150042284
Can't go back because the new games have such good charge physics. Also the med2 camera is weird. The campaign mechanics are still the best in the series though.
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Planing to try very hard for the first time with dwarves, any advice?
Also are the beastmen a big threat when controlled by the IA?
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>>150035424
kek

did ya win son?
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>>150042661
yes, the centigors killed all mortars after the first volley
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Centigors or those neat boars? Who's better for flanking and pooping?
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>>150042854
Centigors never get tired, and the boars are pretty lack luster.
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bestmen
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>>150043009
Shame, the boars are really cool looking.
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>when your life turns into that scene from GoT
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Almost there bros!
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Minotaurs are fun
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>Shill general
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>People are throwing a bitchfit about the dlc
>"hurr i have to buy all the dlc even if its for races i don't give a fuck about"

who honestly cares about leastmen desu
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>>150044731
>mfw my internet speed has steadily increased for the past year but it still cuts out randomly every hour or so and I can't really play online games because of it
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>>150046048
i really like beastmen=(
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POO POO
PEE PEE
How is the Beastmen DLC?
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>>150046048
They are currently one of the most fun races
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>gorebull
>not gorbull

nice consistency GW/CA
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>>150048442
Pretty great. Mechanically they are like WoC but with a greenskin wagh meter, no infighting, and the ability to raze and sack settlements on the same turn. I'd put their units on about the same level as WoC, which is great. Overall a really fun faction
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>>150045976
>liking something makes you a shill
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>>150048442
really fun anon

it's basically just throwing boulders at people, turning them into mush and fucking it
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>>150048637

>units on the same level as WoC

This can't be real. Why even bother playing WoC if this is the case?
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>>150048501

Minotaur = Bullgor
Minotaur Chief = Gorebull
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rip /twg/

may papa nurgle bless you
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>>150050402
>Papa nurgle blessing the dead
We're an undying cancerous rot
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well played ai, well played
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>>150050836
get fucked todbringer
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>>150051007
>Playing as a faction for furries
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>>150051067
>He doesn't understand poopoopeepee
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>>150051067
>not playing as the literal rape train
>not liking mino bowling
>not restoring glorious anarchy to the world
>not showing the woc how to hord
good god what a faggot
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>>150051067

>not playing as rapey goat mutants
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>>150051689
>>150051650
>>150051327

t. furry edgelord
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>>150051792
Get the fuck out manfilth
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>Playing Beastman

It's like trying to learn how to play Chaos campaign again
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>>150052075
just rush minotaurs then kill shit. 4-5 Minos can beat anything the AI can throw at you early on.
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>>150052281
I'm starting to realize that now. I'm also starting to realize I can have more than 2/3 armies at once
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Should i just mass ungore spearmen and raiders so i can have a bunch of free brey herds?
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>>150052893
how the fuck do you afford that
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>>150052075
Get the cost reduction buildings as soon as you can after getting the recruitment options you want.

Also keep in mind you can spread out your options over mutiple armies and use them to recruit units for each other.
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>>150053920
Doesn't the minus growth fuck you?
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Joey is my mom

>wood elves work like roman expeditionary force in TLR
>technically a horde but tied to athel loren (ai controlled)
>athel loren on the gc will function like a separate map upon entering it
>every unit has vanguard deployment
>parthian shot, can fire while moving, high speed, low drag
>Orion, The King of the Woods
>Ariel, Mage Queen of Loren
>Naestra and Arahan, the Sisters of Twilight
>Bretonnia is a campaign mechanic
>special army movement option enables 100% movement through forests and increased replenishment
>can take no lands outside of athel loren
>start at war with beastmen
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Anyone else only play empire every other faction i could not give a fuck about playing
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>>150054051
minmax your lord
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>>150054051
no, not if you have every recruitment building you want, which is generally the bestigor building line which you start with and the minotaur building line (firepits). other units aren't worth recruiting right now (barring bray shamans) but you can just recruit some shitter lord, level his horde up to 3, build the bray shaman building and use him as a shaman recruiter and raider in some random province.
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>>150054051
If you don't for the growth buffs with the lord, or at least in a way that tips or evens the balance.

But this is why you go for the recruitment options first. Once you have them they stay no matter how negative the growth gets.

Plus even if you just roll with the first level for a while. That's you getting 25% of the upkeep cost removed letting you maintain for elite armies or at least one with the bigger units.
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>>150053640
U N G O R S
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>>150054115

I tried to but I kept getting rat fucked by the AI when I played as Empire. The Beastmen update hasn't helped either.

>orc horde fucks show up through Wisenland, raze grunburg, Wisenland kills them and settles grunburg
>beastmen show up near helmgart by fucking turn 7 and raze it
>marienburg declares war on me
>half the factions around me have imperial distrust

Empire campaign sucks dick. Dawi and VC so far are infinitely better.
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>>150049586
There's literally no reason to at this point.
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WHY CANT WARRIORS OF CHAOS SACK AND RAZE AT THE SAME TIME???????

DWARFS > VAMPIRE CUNTS > BEASTMEN > EMPIRE > ORCS > SOUTHERN KINGDOMS MOD > EMPIRE REBELS >>>>>>>>> WARRIORS OF CHAOS
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>>150054942
Modded Chaos >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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>>150055394
Which mods?
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>>150054942
I really hope they give those as options for chaos. They don't need for it to be only "sack and raze/growth" like the beast men. But they should have sack and raze as a option.
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>>150054942
because they were never meant to be played by the player
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Alright, I've had my fun with Beastmen and Chaos.
Back to playing city management simulator with one of the good guys
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I just started the campaign and find this.

Was that wiki page actually true?
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>>150055451
Replenishment rate increase
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>>150055619
Since Raze & Sack exist for Beastmen, I imagine someone will find a way to copy and paste that over to Chaos in mod form. Same goes for the horde infighting shit.
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>>150055959
That will really fuck over Bullying Norsca though. Resacking into oblivion into an awakening is great. Grabbing half a million favor in the process and allowing an 8 stack chaos campaign
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>>150038967
>Do they even allow girls in the Empire's military?
Sure.
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>>150055959
Oh I know, it would just make sense to copy it over as a time saver for Chaos players.

>>150056192
All they'd need to do is add it as a extra option rather than replace the current two.
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>Playing Eye for an Eye
>keep putting off the quests in favor of total domination
>3 hordes going, all with bayherds
>have eliminated every single faction and all their armies
>this softlocks the campaign because you can't finish the quests
GOD FUCKING DAMMIT, I WAS INFECTED BY THE BLOODLUST IT WASN'T MY FAULT
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>tfw Mousillion will never be get a freelc that gives it a vampire-themed Bretonnian roster and new voice acting that slightly reworks stock Bretonnian quotes in a Bela Lugosi-like accent with added mentions of blaad

forsooth, m'lady
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>>150056192
They don't have to replace sack and awaken. They could just replace Raze. So;

Sack
Awaken if available, if not, subjugate, if not, nothing
Sack and Raze for cash
Defile and Raze for growth

Chaos needs it, imo. I seriously hate how cookie cutter the campaign is to every other, where you basically sack landing until you hit level 8 on your lord, spec growth for the first 4 skill points and then do whatever else you feel like, which is probably going to be getting some Kislev cash while you can before Varg do, killing Kraka Drak to protect your vassals or going into Skaeling/Varg territory to take them down. It's such a shit campaign.
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>>150056840
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=699310314
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>>150018510

I meant playing as beastmen, I was using the beastway to escape 6 stacks that were chasing me across the world and I got intercepted even though they were far behind me, it's just stupid.
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>>150054732
>Take all of reikland in the first few turns
>Rush to build walls in all your reikland settlements asap to help with the raiding
>Have a home defense army of a few spears and some crossbows
>Then have karl fuck everyone around with imperial distrust
Not that hard desu
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Just bought warhammer. What race should i start with?
Empire? Dwarf? Ork? skellingtons? Ive not bought any DLC yet, should I? Should i just get a refund?

Will they add dlc with a race that lets me play as a waifu in the future? I want to an waifu.
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Well, thanks to all the help I got last night, I've been able to really step up my game in my Dwarf campaign. At turn 40 and me and Barak Varr are running wild and smashing what's left of Grimgor Ironhide and his boys - one of my lords managed to kill Ironhide - but it's getting kind of tedious.
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>>150059117
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>>150059117

>Will they add dlc with a race that lets me play as a waifu in the future? I want to an waifu.

Soon
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>>150026113
>Zacharias the Everliving over The Red Duke or Krell

...but why though?

Vampire Counts need a melee heavy LL who isn't a caster.
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>>150059475
dude he's wrong anyways, it's Ushoran with Lore of Shadows.
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I love fighting the undead
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Mod to make campaign Tod Bringer look like the beastmen DLC Todbringer when? I literally cannonot play Empire without Tod wearing his stupid castle hat.
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>>150059597

Same, I just wish the AI varied their roster choices a bit more.

They almost always just make armies of zombies/skeletal warriors.
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I really like the Beastmen campaign mechanics and I hope they spruce up the WoC a bit by making them less of a chore to play.

I love playing them in the battles, though. Nothing more satisfying than fighting a huge battle with your apocalypse-tier warrior + chosen + knight horde.
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>>150059117
Races that have the potential for waifu LL's depending on CA:

>Bretonnia
Morgiana Le Fay is fucking guaranteed.

>Dark Elves
Again, Morathi is fucking guaranteed.

>Tomb Kings
Khalida is possible but not guaranteed.

>Vampire Counts
Nehekhara is possible but not guaranteed.

>Wood Elves
Ariel, Drycha, and Naesta & Arahan are all possible but not guaranteed.

>Chaos
Valkia the Bloody is possible but not guaranteed, and seemingly less likely since Chaos already has three LL.

Not likely to see waifus anytime soon:
>Greenskins
>Dwarfs
>Empire
>Beastmen
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>>150059846
I thought he does?
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>>150059597
>Turn 60 or something
>Go check out what Moussilon is up to
>They are driving around Bretonnia with three stacks of nothing but skeletons and zombies
>Half of the skeletons disintegrate before they even get to swing their bony arms
I mean, I guess they were counting on me to autoresolve. Poor Moussilon.
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>>150060382
He does not for me, maybe its because I dont have the DLC tho.
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>>150060303
high elves might have Alarielle and her waifu guard
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>>150060303
>implying Grimgor is not the best waifu
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>>150061362
>>implying Grimgor is not the best waifu

Grimgor would be a husbando not a waifu
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Beastmen are so fucking easy. Just like on VC once Chaos rolls in you just let them win for you.

Chaos really needs to be nerfed to shit to make the campaign more fun.
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>>150061362
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>>150060303
wouldn't Valkia be a choice for Daemons of Chaos?
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>>150049586
>>150054734
He's lying, thanks to buffs chaos is good now, and they can handily beat beastmen units

Dragon ogres rape demi's, blood knights and minotaur's now and chosen shit on everyone's infantry, even the regular ones with axes and shields beat Greatsword now although with heavy losses.
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>>150061760
it's 2016 Grimgor can be whatever gender she wan'ts
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Does anybody else with a 1080 have the game crash at the menu when using DX12?
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>>150062051
Pretty sure Orcs have no gender, they're born from spores. Or am I thinking of Orks?
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>>150062328
true for both.
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ok guys this is probably a stupid question but does anybody know if there is someone working on a mod that allows more than two people in a multiplayer campaign, or if CA is planning on adding it. I would absolutely love to get a game going with each faction being played by a player even if it does take years to finish
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>>150061776
Maybe you should play on a harder difficulty than normal?

Normal = TW Equivalent of Easy Mode for Strategy Games.
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>>150062283
I've seen it reported elsewhere, just stick to 11 until 12 is out of beta.
1080s are crashing constantly and getting lower frames
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>>150062601
I am bad at TW games so I usually play on easy or normal. I'm not the guy you are responding to
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>>150062752
normal players represent
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>>150062601
I am the guy you're responding too, and I play on Very Hard.

No campaign difficulty changes the fact that Chaos just steamrolls every AI faction until they win.
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Finally got to the point where I'm steam rolling in my beastmen campaign and Jesus Christ this faction is OP. Get the general ability with upkeep reductions then the building that adds to upkeep reduction and then field entire Minotaur armies and you are completely unstoppable. Even when the auto resolve for sieges says I should lose nothing stops the rape train in battle.
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>>150062012
What buffs dd chaos get? I heard chosen are better.
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>>150056870
It's better to kill and subjegate the other chaos factions before moving in land, gives you decent money early on and makes it to where you don't have to compete with them for easy targets.
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>>150063072

Warriors of Chaos

Archaon

- Reduced recruitment cost


Chosen

- Increased Melee Defence

- Increased HP

- Increased Melee Attack


Chosen (Great Weapons)

- Increased Weapon Damage

- Increased Armour-Piercing Damage

- Increased Melee Attack


Dragon Ogres

- Increased Health

- Decreased Melee Attack

- Increased Melee Defence

- Weapon Strength includes Anti-Large Damage.

- Reduced Armour-Piercing Damage


Kholek

- Decreased Weapon Strength

- Weapon Strength includes Anti-Large Damage.

- Decreased Charge Bonus


Dragon Ogre Shaggoth

- Decreased Weapon Strength

- Weapon Strength includes Anti-Large Damage.

- Decreased Charge Bonus

- Decreased recruitment cost


Chaos Knights

- Increased Melee Defence
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>>150063419
Thanks man. I used to spam dragon ogres in my chaos campaign, figures they would get nerfed. Those chosen buffs look nice though.
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Beastman Khazrak start because I have not shit on Brettonia much in all my playthroughs and want to fight them for a change of pace. Having a bit of trouble getting used to the starting conditions and just reset the campaign from turn like 20.

What I did before was just destroy both of Estalias small settlements with more or less my starting armies on turn 2. Khazrak beast path then attack while the second stack recruited then attacked. Then I consolidated my stacks into one, went into raid stance, and stared while the event Bray-Shaman just went to town spamming destroy building. Got a crit failure while the moon damage buff was up and went "fuck it" manage to lose that battle.

Basically I went super aggressive and it felt like it didn't really work out. I'm wondering if it's better to let the AI build up a bit so their worth more to beat. Should I combine the armies or not? It's really easy to reach negative favor early with beastmen and I don't have the bankroll to offset that.
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>>150064183
Super aggressive is the only way to play beastmen. You need to be sacking settlements constantky to afford upkeep. Beastmen get some extremely useful events too like the ones that heal your units
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>>150064351
Yeah but it's not like razing the bastards is worth much if you do it before they can invest in the settlements. I mean raiding gives money too and any fight in the open is better for beastmen....
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>>150064183
Just wander around attacking the weakest settlements you can find.

If anyone comes for you just hide in your camp.

Soon you'll be fucking unstoppable because this faction is broken as fuck, and everyone will be busy with Chaos anyway.
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What Total War is best Total War?
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>>150064503
Still it's good to just raze and move forward. Just wait until you have full stacks of Minotaur units with upkeep reduction, beastmen are so broken.
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is there any better feeling than double-enveloping a stinky orc shits army and raining death upon them with glorious Dawi bullets and cannon-balls?
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>>150064743
Attila
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>>150064743
Honestly Warhammer. I'd put medieval 2 as second because mods.
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>>150064743
So far I've had the most fun with Warhammer. I still really like Rome 1 and 2 but the unit diversity from warhams is really nice.
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>Sarthorael's 3D porthole still broken
Looks like even after officially making him playable, they still didn't fix this.
Also he's somewhat underwhelming. Although I wish he was recruitable in the Grand Campaign.
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So DLC 3 were Beastmen, DLC 5 will be Wood Elves. What is going to be DLC 4? I'm thinking a Lord pack with Markus Wulfhart as LL and Empire archers as new unit.
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>>150026113
> Zacharias
We already have two cuntwizards and Mannboy von Carstein already stole his zombie dragon gimmick. It's probably going to be Krell even though he should be a hero so he can hang out with Himmler.
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>>150064848
It would be if they ever fixed the disgusting framerate. What did they do differently with WH so that it wasn't as poorly optimized? How did they fuck up Attila so bad?
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Polls and shit
1 http://www.strawpoll.me/10869454
2 http://www.strawpoll.me/10869446
3 http://www.strawpoll.me/10869440
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>>150066579
warhammers removed synced combat animations
but I cant be certain if really matters
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Am I the only one really hoping they release Skaven sometime soon? I need rat ogres in my life
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>>150065343
>what are mods
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>>150066894
R2 had them and it was optimized, the key is that they actually bothered to patch the issue.
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>attacking city with 2 hordes and waaghstack
>my reinforcing stack has all the cygors
>they never came
should have just autoresolved
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>>150067468
They did release a performance patch. It didn't work though.
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Explain this.
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Stainless Steel or Bellum Crucis?
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>>150068005
Horses can escape the rape faster.
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>>150066639
>Cult of Ulric units

YES YES YES
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>>150067509
The game only lets you have a max of 40 units sadly.

So yeah if you're at a 3 or more stack advantage you kind of have to auto resolve
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are dwarfs the most annoying start in the game?

I love playing as them, but every time I play them, I get smashed into the dirt but Orc rape-trains by turn 40

I only have the Silver Road, everything almost maxed out, when a rape-train of 7-8 orc doomstacks/halfstacks roll up and kicks my shit in, meanwhile I can only afford 2 decent stacks, I can just sit behind walls and try to wait it out, but it never works.

how does one "git gud" with dawi?
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>>150068793
Dwarf Quarrellers are pretty good early on, have a solid line of Warriors and them and you should take out the less armored orcs no problem.

What I found helped was holding the passes and sending a army through the mountains to build up a economy, that said you do get raided ALL the time by the vampires up that way.
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>>150068793
>take Gunbad for mad cash
>build quarellers and grudge throwers early on
>research upgrades for quarellers ASAP
>slaughter Grobi from afar
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>YFW Minotuars
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Gorebulls charge animation is the greatest thing to ever happen in a total war game.
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So what should my first ten or so turns as Khazrak be? Even if I wipe out Estalias other two towns, he'll just camp in his city, and because Eheee AI bonuses raise another army and only when he had a clear advantage will he leave, and because he knows where I am he'll either he exactly out of my range or avoid my shit.

I've even tried baiting with the other horde to no avail. He will gladly let me raid and rape his lands and just sit in his city for 40+ turns.

I'm to autistic to just move on. I NEED to clear the map.
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>No more Jeff Van Dyck music in TW games

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QTa6h3A9shw

At least warhams got decent OST that hams it up during the battles and Atilla had sick throat signing but I still wish to see what Jeff Van Dyck could have done here.
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>>150065343
that's just uh- umm chaos corruption! yeah, it's a feature. Just as planned heh heh.

t. CA
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>>150069995

Is the Gorebull the single most satisfying unit in a Total War game ever?
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>win first battle of eye for an eye campaign

>cheevo obtained: win grand campaign with beastmen
???
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>>150070516
Everything is bugged.
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>>150070516
Yeah, I got that same bug. Also the VH/Legendary campaign a while later, I think for assassinating an agent.
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>>150070346
He is how exalted hero/sigmar-priest should be strong meele fighter with constant buffs, I hope they adjust the others.
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>>150060618
Its possible you have a conflicting mod, I know that faction unlocker mods stop you from playing beastmen, don't unlock the right factions and revert boris back to standard empire captain.
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>>150070870
>>150070346

Yeah other hero units just aren't satisfying. The fact that he's a monstrous he's larger and stands out more makes a huge difference.
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>>150068005
Well if i'm going against beastie i suppose mass skirmish cav would be a pretty okay choice
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>>150038623
Centigors do not beat empire knights, unless you are using the great weapon variant.

If you use the ones that cost around the same, empire win.
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>>150068005
Ungor raiders fuck pistoleers.
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>>150072359
Infact just tried it and Empire knights won with 30 men left.
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Ungor Raiders are actually really nice.
Minotaurs are insane.
Khazrak is a trash melee combatant.

Devolve is OBFUCKINGSCENE HOLY CHRIST, IF THE ENEMY BLOB THEY'RE FUCKED IN A SINGLE CAST.
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>>150072679
And Knights of the realm beat great weapon centigors with only two losses, broke them on charge.

Centigors are the worse cav in the game.
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>>150072787

How do Razorboars fare?
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>>150072783
Once he's got his chariot, Kazrak mostly gets demoted to artillery hunting, for me.
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>>150072920
Struggling to get the AI to get there charge of for some reason.

But if you charge as Bret you lose 1 single guy, and if you charge as the boars you lose over half the unit.

I upgraded the boars to two experience to make it fair too.
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>>150072920
As good as chaos spawns, but with morals
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>>150070210
Have to agree, his music has this wonderful way of matching combat perfectly.

It also gets you really pumped for the action.
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>>150073221

What?
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>>150073191
He becomes the character hunter for me. He can tear through groups to get to the heroes and lords, and when they can run he can chase them down.
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>>150056754
>Hi I'm Kenny Rogers, and this is Jackass
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>>150056754
Cygors are the best Arty in the game now right?
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>>150073672
Not sure, on the one hand they're hard to take down, on the other they're slow firing and only have one projectile per unit.

Throw a few anti large units and them and they fold like paper.
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>>150073672
You misspelled doom diver
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Uh, is this supposed to happen?
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>>150073672
As actual arty? No, hellcannons and doomdivers are still better. But cygors add flexibility, once the scrap begins you can have him enter melee as a decent monster unit.
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>>150073930
What am i looking for there senpai?
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>>150055849
>Female Beastmen
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>>150064743
FotS
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Is the Beastman DLC good or shit
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>>150002786
Minotaur master race, all other beastmen are lesser.
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>>150074762
G O R E B U L L
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>>150074740
The new campaign is meh but the faction is really good. So if you're not in a hurry I'd say wait for a sale.
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>>150074740
The price is steep, but the beastmen are really fun to play.
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>>150074740
Trash for the price, the mini campaign is shit
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These fucking zombie cunts have 3 full stacks two fucking turns after i destroyed there last 3 stacks
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>>150075074
zombies are free kills.
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Is the DLC worth it? How many hours are in the campaign?
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>>150074305
I made chaos rebels spawn, but they are hostile towards me
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>>150075164
They probably worship Malal.
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>>150075101
There 3 fucking lords every second turn and the agent spam so i cant move are the problem there is only so much karl can take
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>>150074913
The mini campaign is actually a lot of fun and really plays to the beastmen's strengths well. While it's no Charlemagne or FotS, it's still better than every other mini campaign they've done.

I just wish it included the full roster and a few new empire units that fit the theme.
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>>150074906
>>150074913
>He didn't buy it for £10 from GMG.com
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>>150075106
It reallly comes down to what you consider good value for money.

You could easily get 20 hours+ content if you only played them once in campaign, and another 7-8 hours for the mini campaign.

Just depends whether you want to spend the money, personally i have no problems with the pricing since i can afford it and i was always going to buy the DLC anyway since i enjoy the game and have over 150 hours put in now.

The faction feels unique, they play very different to WOC which i was suprised at, the GC is pretty damn difficult too. They lowered money from sacking so money is a huge struggle as the Beastmen.
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>>150075494
Gulf Marketing Group sells Total War?
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>>150075554
That was not where I expected the link to go.
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What's the best clan on Shogun 2?
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>>150075963
Tokugawa obviously, manifest destiny and kickass ninja
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>>150075963
Oda, not argueable
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>>150075074
It's almost like raising the dead quickly is a mechanic of theirs or something.
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Who still/medieval 2/ here?
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mallagor starting off with giant wasnt as nice as it sounded
now Id rather have minotaurs as Im going to get gorebull to deal with lords and heroes
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>>150076945
Haven't tried one with the beastie boys yet, but can't help thinking giants will just be too slow compared to the rest of the army. They can hit as hard as they like, but if they're a few hundred metres back from the rest of the force then it doesn't matter
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I want to play Shogun 2 again but with mods this time.

I've played FOTS with Radious and it seemed kind of okay, what's generally considered to be one of the better balance/unit addition mods for base Shogun 2?
Darthmod, Radious, or something else?
>>
>Legendary Empire run
>kill a beastman stack, Karl gets Harsh
>Kill a orc stack 3 turns later, Karl gets Punitive

what foul skaven sorcery is this?
>>
Rifles or crossbows?
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>>150077640
BOTH
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>>150077640
More information required. What does the rest of the army look like, and what are you expecting to fight?
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>attacking Altdorf
>game crashes on load every time, with or without mods
>have to auto-resolve
For fucks sake CA...
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>>150077640
Consider rifles against dorfs and chaos(actual chaos, not the marauder spamming norscan stacks). Easily crossbows against everyone else.
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>>150077749
Attacking Altdorf with no survivors?
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How do you deal with cavalry heavy armies as dwarf? (turn 12 so not many options)
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>>150077810
No way to deal with it, rely on your ranged units being competent in melee, and keep a bodyguard around

or depending on how much of a faggot you are, cornercamp
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>>150063272

It never works one of them always end up declaring war on another and it just fucks up everything.

Which brings up another point, why the fuck can subjugated factions declare war on each other? That's retarded.
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>>150077953
>why the fuck can subjugated factions declare war on each other?
really? i thought that subjuated factions couldn't start wars

then again, pulling the Awaken+subjugate combo makes you Unreliable, so secession happens easily
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>>150077953

Norscan tribes are retarded. Either wipe them out or leave them alone completely.
>>
Does anyone else get told that their drivers are out of date by the Warhammer launcher but the game launches and runs fine?
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>>150078331
since rome 2. mine are out of date but i cannae update them cause my card is no longer supported, game runs fine.
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Hello degenerates,is this game worth a buy at full price,i am big fan of historical total wars and wasnt impressed by this but still want to play it.I waited long enough for sale which obviously isnt coming soon. So to buy or not to buy?
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>>150078419
It's pretty good, but you still might want to wait for sale. The problem is that it will be a while.
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>>150078331
They don't say it won't run.
Because old drivers don't stop things from running completely.
It just informs you that it's not the most recent driver available.
Performance could be better. Though sometimes they fuck up and make it worse.
That's the extent that they're informing you.

>>150078419
Depends on what exactly you want, how much you want it and how much money means to you.

It's a fairly good total war game with a reasonable release. It's certainly not as bad as Rome 2. Probably not as good as Attila or Shogun 2 though.

Balance is a bit all over the place, and the Beastmen DLC that just dropped completely broke the game over its fucking knee.

I've bought it and gotten my money's worth. It's pretty good overall.
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>>150078419

>i am big fan of historical total wars

You're a big fan of eye roll inducing conditions. It's a fucking total war game. Ever other total war game is historical. The fact you even think it being a fantasy game has any bearing on its quality is enough for me to think you're a faggot, especially after the torrential amount of shitposting from historyfags that just couldn't handle the idea of a total war game being based in a fantasy continuity.
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How long until best-men are nerfed? This is just ridiculous
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>>150078157

90% this, just awaken one, subjugate it and genocide the rest of them. The last one will take Norsca and will serve as a great screen for your armies as they proceed to spam marauder armies south.

Unless they decide to never leave their starting settlement and get murdered by an human doom stack or killed by the Norscan dwarfs early on.

Basically yeah Norscan's are fucking retards. #chaosthings
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>>150075963
The one with Tercos and black ships
Otome was it i think
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Is it true that most of the beastmen achievements are bugged?
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>>150077165
MOS was the new hot stuff some time ago, can't relly talk about it as I didn't try it
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>start a new empire playthrough
>the usual sweep of empire rebels
>suddenly skulltakers pop up near grunburg, waaagh in tow - raze it
>same turn khazrak shows up near helmgart, raids it
>rushing back from eilhart with franz to counter
>beastmen spawn a brayherd
>TURN 8 TURN FUCKING 8
>get ambushed
>lose
>mareinburg declares war and takes eilhart turn 9

Fuck yourself mother fucker. Empire campaign is garbage. I fucking knew the faggot Beastmen AI was going to b-line it straight to Reikland and just skip everything in between. Well back to playing VC and Dawi again.
>>
>Empire VH
>Calmly unite reikland and colonize marienburg after the orcs raised it to shit
>suddenly get message that averland is destroyed
>think it's just the VC fucking around
>suddenly notice wissenland losing it's southern regions
>get them to confederate
>notice the beastman herdstones, prepare myself for a fight against a great warherd
>it's just 1 fullstack of nothing but minotaurs BTFO'ing everybody near Averland

Even the AI is cheesy.
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>>150078748
Minotaurs need to be put in much smaller squads.
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>>150079151

I made a mod that gives Empire 2 starting armies and an increase to base income so it stays the same as it was with just the one army. It helps account for any early game fuckery like what you described. Although I don't understand how the orc horde got a waaagh so quickly but it is Total War after all.

Also it's a soft cheat mod I guess, the army is just 2 swords, 3 spears and 2 crossbows. Just helps cover your massively exposed ass from the various shit Empire has to deal with early on.

>tfw everyone around has imperial distrust and the dorfs declare war on you
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>>150079273
>1 fullstack of nothing but minotaurs
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>>150079151
>>
If you're in beastman ambush stance, are you invisible to the enemy?
If you're in hidden encampment mode, are you invisible to the enemy?
Thanks.
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>>150079365

Encampment yes, ambush no
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>>150078748
That's a very elite army up against an army which is very basic. It'd be weird if you didn't get that result.

Minotaurs are pretty strong but quite expensive.
Devolve is the only thing supremely broken about them.
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>>150079273
>>150079305
I reckon minotaurs could have done with being 1 tier higher. Getting them in a tier 3 horde is a bit silly. Problem is, they've got three buildings so there isn't space to push them up.
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>>150079574
Make the tier 5 weapon upgrade building a requirement to build Minotaurs with great weapons, reducing the Minotaur building chain to two buildings.
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>>150079658
Yeah, that would do it. Would also mean they don't get as much upkeep reduction from the 3rd building, which would help too.
>>
Were beastmen ever this fucking strong on TT?
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>>150079901
Nope
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>>150079901

No, they basically relied on numbers, Sorta like orcs, but without the strength to back it up, and more reliance on vanguard deployment and other sneaky stuff.
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So now that beastmen are in are there less Norscan Armies wandering around to compensate?
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>>150080064

nope, the norse still roam the world in a giant 4 army packs.
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>>150080135

So now there's just more shit fucking up the campaign map?
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Beastmen have been everything I've been waiting for.

This minotaur game is just ridic
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>Undead
And I was worried when I had to fight this on an open field for no apparent reason despite having walls. Or at least I thought I had walls, maybe they needed one turn more to complete or something.
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>>150080974
Yiff in hell and stay away from good races with your filth.
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>>150078683
I dont think game setting has impact on quality you faggot,i just said that I wasnt interesed in it.But then i saw that it is not that different from other total wars and want to try it out.
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>>150081121
MOOOOOOOOO!
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>>150081023
Sometimes this is better against undead. Flying shit can be a real pain against ranged units on walls.
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>that mod that add black and crimson minotaurs
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>>150072783
>Khazrak is a trash melee combatant.
>>
Is there anything more annoying than Marauder horsemen?
>>
>Khazrak
>Trash
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>>150081523
he's a big guy
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>>150078748
>shows singleplayer

lol. You can do that with any faction. It's not like the beastmen faction is OP in AI hands.
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>>150080873
Need wood elves ASAP to remove brayherd
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Would you rather they nerf devolve or buff other spells?

Personally I like seeing a spell that's actually dangerous (that isn't spirit leech), the radius could be smaller.
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>>150081523
He was almost dying 1v1 vs vanilla empire lords
>>
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ikv0kKmDwTM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ikv0kKmDwTM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ikv0kKmDwTM

STUFF
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>>150081942
Buff other spells, people have been asking for an overall magic buff since release because of how the magic is pretty useless at large/ultra unit size settings.
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>>150081942
Buff. When I saw a Celestial Wizard summoning a fuck off huge meteor in the trailer my first thought was not 'Well that looks like it should tickle.'
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>>150082054
NEAT THANKS CA

>0:43
>Gorbull fucking smashes into a varghulf and knocks it on its ass
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>>150082240
>Charges into trolls
>Trolls fucking flying away from the impact
>>
Holy shit the Tormentor Sword ability on mounted Khazrak is powerful. It makes enemies in a fairly large radius completely immobile so Khazrak and a couple of Centigors absolutely destroy pretty much anything in a charge.
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>>150081659
Friendly reminder that centigors can have throwing axes, and never get tired.
>>
Can someone tell me for what banshees are good for? According to her trait she is a good duelist, but she dies after only a few hits while fighting another enemy general.
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>>150082869
assasinating on the campaign map. and of course don't fight generals who deal magic damage.
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>>150082869

Did the general deal magic damage? Use her to take out monsters like giants and other large single targets.
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SHIT, turn 60 on my ongoing dorf campaign and the game is stuck when chaos tries to spawn and i cant do anything. I tried reloading to the turn before but the same thing happened. Anyone have any advice?
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>>150082990
She fought orc generals of various levels but she dies in like 3-4 hits.
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>>150083148

Are they dealing magic damage? Look on their tool tip for the magic damage icon.
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>>150083142
cancel all alliances before chaos shows up.
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>>150082808

I don't own beastmen
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>>150083478
lmao get out
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>>150083478
The AI still has them. Well, for like 3 or 4 turns until they get wiped out because the AI can't into hordes.
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>>150083148
in the campaign, if a lord/hero is using any weapon, they get magic damage, so check before

you can use her as bait (stand in front of a dwarf gunline while your army flanks) or send her against big monsters or weaponless heroes, also, she delivers terror, which is always nice

also, they are the best assasins in the game
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>>150083571

>Paying over £10 for worst race

no thanks
>>
>send a thane to Ekrund to settle a grudge
>critically assassinated before he can leave our province
>3 turns later, buy a master engineer at Silver Road, send him that way too
>he gets critically assassinated as soon as he reaches Blood River
FUCKING GREENSKIN PIECE OF SHIT SCUM GET OUT OF MY BADLANDS
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>150083347
sheeeit, just tried that, didn't work. unless non aggression pacts count?
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>>150083843
Gobboz rule
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>>150083778
The fuck did you just say?
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>>150083778
>worst
Somebody hasn't discovered the joy of minotaurs.
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>>150083894
THIS GOES INTO THE BOOK
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>>150083778
Don't worry anon, you will learn to accept the horsecock once you've seen minotaurs and gorebulls in action. How could I possibly go back to tiny human dicks after this?
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>>150083778
I agree, time to play a real game like Total War.
>>
Is there a worse starting position than where Malagor starts in the Badlands?

Savage Orcs are smacking my shit
>>
so what are the best combos for playing co-op?

empire/greenskins
empire/dwarf
chaos/beastmen

....is that really it?
>>
>>150085046
I'm convinced that Dorf start is worse. Nothing can be worse than that.
Besides, you don't really have to fuck with Orcs as Beastmemes, right?
>>
>>150085419

Well you don't have to, but Top Knots were at war with me from the start and everyone was inviting each other to war against me. Orc troops (especially savage orcs) really wreck my shit early and I didn't have access to minotaurs that early either.
>>
>>150085419
dwarf start is fine
greenskinks have to deal with 3 dwarf factions, top knotz and some other orcs too
dwarfs never have to fight other dwarves
and orcs have shitty armour piercing at start
>>
>>150085575
>greenskinks have to deal with 3 dwarf factions
That doesn't mean you won't get multiple fully stacked greenskin armies on your borders by turn 10. Besides, Barak Varr get instantly wiped out and Karak Azul doesn't fare much better.
>>
>>150085929
every time I play barak varr gives all their babies to dwarfs as soon as I look at them
then its time for thorgrim and his invincible chair army
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>>150085419
How can you lose against early-game Greenskins as Dwarfs? Your whole roster is designed to fuck their shit before they get units that don't run away after 30 seconds in battle.
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>>150083778
>Not getting a Russian debit card and paying only 669 roubles for it
>>
Beastmen on GC feel a lot harder than warriors of chaos.

Im on turn 65 and struggling with money and army upkeep, i have in total 30 units and my upkeep is -1000 a turn my units are not even that good a few gors and mostly ungor spears and 4 Minotaurs.

I made it to the empire and every city has a full banner in it, shits crazy.

Im just sitting waiting for chances to ambush an army, but my money keeps going down to fast.
>>
>>150085090
for now yes, in 2017, you will play as Empire/Dwarfs, Bretonnia/Wood elves, Skaven/Greenskins, beastmen/WoC and Vampire/Tomb kangz
>>
>>150086235
>no Empire/Bretonnia
>>
>>150086202
Invest in the support building that reduces upkeep by 50% and focus on your economy. I did that first and the only things I had to worry about were fightiness and for a time shit tier units. If you move in the raiding stance until you are attacking / worried about being attacked will help keep that level though.
>>
>>150086202
isnt it normal for hordes to be pisspoor and rely on raiding+looting all the time?
>>
>>150086496
If you buy it straight away how do you get any horde growth to get good units?

I use raiding stance, but usually after a battle i need to replenish troops too otherwise im a sitting duck.

Sacking doesn't seem to give anywhere near as much money anymore either, its like 6000 from a city.
>>
How many hellcannons per army
>>
>>150086947
19.
>>
>>150001630
>hear
its heed you normie fuck
>>
>>150086947
0-1
>>
>>150078820
Yea man. Got the finish a campaign on legendary or hard achievement while playing on hard and never even finishing.
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>The gorebull's solid snake combat roll
it kills a fucking vargulf in the trailer with it,that shit is comedy gold
>>
>>150087405
>He's fast
>>
>>150086202
Feeling completely the opposite. After a while it seems as though nothing can compete with me. I only have one full stack and yet I've not encountered anything that can beat me.
>>
Is Piracy dead?

I haven't downloaded a game for ages but felt that I wanted to try Total Warhammer without paying.

I can't seem to find a torrent anywhere. I normally use torrentleech.

Do they have a special DRM for this game or something?
>>
>>150087587
if you're poor you shouldn't be playing games.
>>
>>150087587
Denuvo.
>>
>>150087587
Games are getting cheaper and more accessible, DRM has gotten stronger and piracy sites are getting weaker.

It's dying.
>>
>>150087587
It hasn't been cracked yet and likely never will be
>>
>>150087871
kek pirates blown out.

Why were people complaining about Denuvo? It doesn't even affect the game.
>>
>Be playing Grand campaign
>Message comes up about man-filth
>suddenly it clicks, Beast men are feminists

>Minotaurs are large cows that hate man filth
>Want powerful black bulls to replace small white men
>Their end goal is to tear down all civilization and create a world where savages reign, free from the oppression of having to shave, wear clothes, or live by any code of morality.
>They long for a world where they can give into their most animalistic instincts judgement free

>They win in the end?
>>
>>150087871
Denuvo has been cracked though
>>
>>150088045
poorfags, what else?
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Why the fuck does factions keep declaring war on my Brayherd?! Also, according to the diplomacy stats I somehow betrayed treaties with my Brayherd...
>>
>>150088106
When did that happen?

Also, new bread???
>>
>>150087968
>Games are getting cheaper
That's not true, the price for PC game went up from 50 to 60 bucks
And if you buy from the grey market, you aren't better than pirates.
>>
>>150081942
Honestly a mix of both. other magic needs a buff but at the same time anything which does as much damage/AOE as devolve either needs a range or damage nerf.

You can take out a whole army with just two overcasts. That's insane.
>>
>>150088174
>Why the fuck does factions keep declaring war on my Brayherd?!

Because they can't see you when you're encamped, but they can see this retarded-ass stack of shit units dancing around raiding and think "easy pickings."

>Also, according to the diplomacy stats I somehow betrayed treaties with my Brayherd...

I've seen this too, and I want to say it's from brayherds getting destroyed and thus "breaking" the treaties.
>>
>>150088228
Whats the grey market?
>>
>>150088589
That makes some kind of sense.
>>
>>150083843
>hire another master engineer
>gets assassinated in the Death Pass
Seriously now.
Is this because of VH? Anything you can do about it?
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poor lil Karl

Sort of sad that his last stand is in some shitty little city with a bunch of mortars
>>
>>150086764
At it's max level all it does is at a -10 growth

So as long as you can go over 10 growth per turn you'll be fine. You can also get perks to growth from Lord skills as well.

That said what I like to do is keep it simple, only have recruitment for gors/anyother unit types you really want and then get the support building. You have to share the recruits between armies but it helps. Hell even that -25% upkeep frees you up more than you'd think.
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>>150088957
How much is that army costing?
>>
How are they even going to fit Grand Campaign Wood Elves in Bretonnia proper? It's already pretty cramped here. And their forest is kinda small.
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>>150088957
i was an emperor once you know
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>>150089079
Probably not much, theres a building that reduces upkeep, the LL can reduce upkeep and the techbuildings reduce upkeep too, its amazing.
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>>150063419
>Suneater nerfed
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>When the civil war is so intense you can't tell whose who anymore.
>>
>>150032139
Dwarfs live really close by in the Grey Mountains and show up from time to time because >Muh Grudges

Kemmler keeps going into Athel Loren since there are a bunch of barrows and magic there, never works out for him

Bretonnian dukes that are mad about the wild hunt or want to claim the >empty land occasionally go in.

Orcs and Beastmen are more of a constant. Athel Loren has a ton of visitors and interacts with all their neighbors.
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>>150079151
>orks and beastmen didn't invite nordland and half of brettonia to the war.

Sounds like you got off easy desu
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>>150088104
You tried.
>>
SOMEONE MAKE A NEW BREAD
>>
>>150088196
3DM cracked Dragon Age: Inquisition which had Denuvo.
>>
>>150089360
shouldve happened
>>
>>150087587
No, it's not, it's been only 2 months, give it some time
Piracy will never die
>>
>>150089079
1274 but I have the -50% army upkeep building and the -15% skill upgrade.
>>
>>150088106
Yeah but it has to be done for each game and it takes fucking ages.
>>
>>150088045
Denuvo jacks up the price a lot, while being eventually cracked

less money spent building temporary walls = more money spent on the product
>>
do I need to point my spearmen at incoming cavalry to brace them fo charge or do they do it automatically?
>>
>>150088654
shady key resellers, like g2a
>>
>>150090219
they have to face them and stand idle
>>
>>150089682
>Typical dwarf apparel
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BLOOD RED,
DEAD HEAD,
I NEED A NEW THREAD
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>>150090335
I buy from mmoga.com since years and never had issues.
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>>150090219
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New bread?
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