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Caring Company Edition

old thread >>149898389
permalink: http://orph.link/eog

>Can I make enough ISK to PLEX during the trial?
If you have to ask, you can't do it.

>I just started, what should I do?
Do the Opportunities then find the Career Agents & run all of their missions; they give you ISK, ships, skillbooks and teach you basics. Talk to players and try to find a corp. The game is only as boring as you are.

>Is it too late to start playing EVE?
No.

>Read the /eog/ pastebin: http://pastebin.com/ser9Acpg (embed) (embed)

>Focus Group Logs: https://focusgrouplogs.tech.ccp.is/

Future:
>Winter: drilling platforms
>Oct 28: Eve Vegas
>Sep 12: CSM 11 first summit
>Fall: industrial arrays, barge visuals, AOE BOOST/LINK REWORK, Rorqual rework
>Aug 09: Citadel contracts, damage/repping visuals, DX11 clouds performance boost, cargo notifications

Past:
>Jul 26: AT prizes: covops cruor and covops armor logi ashimmu
>Jul 23: Goons moving to Delve, SMA alliance closes
>Jul 19: Broski enters QFC, Rote super salty
>Jul 18: Billboards submissions open
>Jul 07: AT 14 rule changes: 10 players, no cap-transfer, no jumpdessies, blood raider ships encouraged
>Jun 29: "Shadow of the Serpent" event begins (shittiest one of the 3 so far), serp capitals introduced
>Jun 28: Citadel trading, tactical overlay vectors, new implants, legal drugs, NSA nerfs, triage/seige/bastion give ECM immunity, mass fitting tool
>Jun 23: RIP sp dailies
>May 31: RIP old camera, new multi-use analyzers introduced
>May 30: RIP Dust 514 (long live Project Nova)
>May 12: Name ships automatically with a saved fit name
>May 06: Eve Online 13th Anniversary
>Apr 27: Citadels & cap rebalance released. Tears, bugs, etc. RIP rolling yachts.
>Apr 21: https://community.eveonline.com/news/dev-blogs/csm-11-election-results/
>Mar 09: Massive mod tiercides that broke a lot of fits.
>Feb 09: SP trading
>Foozie makes a bunch of stupid pointless changes (don't ever remove this from the OP, because it is always true)
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The future of AT you chose.
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>cruise rattle
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>>150094032
In the last day of eve Federation mega will fight Imperial apoc at the Jita undock. They will fight for hours until suicide squad arrives, but in their hubris they destroy both of Glorious Battleships simultaneously and explosion will be so great, that it wipe out all the servers and ccp bank accounts.
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>rapid launchers
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mussah post feet
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>>150093564

Hey /eog/,

I started this game about a week ago, I joined a noobie corp (pandemic horde) and I am having a blast. Lots of fleet fights where I pretty much just tackle something then get blaped by the thing I am tackling (usually vexors/ ishtars/ dessys, caracals). Which I am totally fine with, I get i it, you hold them down and your fleetmates kill them hopefully before they kill you.

Yesterday I started trying to do solo pvp and man do I suck fat donkey dick at that. I have tried every single fit that I have found at least 5 or 6 times and just been absolutely destroyed every time. I think the furthest I have gotten someone is into half armor. I am not using my own fit, these are things I found on zkillboard from "good" pilots, I just tech them down.

Kite tristan? Blap
Brawl Tristan? Blap
Kestral? Blap
Atron? blap
Tormentor? blap

Should I just stick with one ship? Surely I shouldn't be sucking this hard just to start? Have you all been lying to me in that it really is too late to start playing eve because only hardcore people with 100m sp are the ones doing anything?
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>>150095206
I should stick with one ship to feel a dick in yo... to feel your engagement profile.
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>eve
>solo pvp
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>>150095206
What are you even fighting? You do know pirate frigates have better bonuses, right? And that older players have more bonuses through skills too and can use T2 guns and ammo?
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what is this about DX11 I just heard?
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>>150095206

Focus on one ship for training and learn to pick your fights also. If your only a week old then there are very few fights you can win on your own since most of what you will come up against will have a month or more training and skill over you (check there charecter sheets in local before warping to them to get a feel of what your going up against).
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>>150095206
Link killboard
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>>150095718
>a month
More like 5 years.
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>>150095363
don't tease me senpai

>>150095528
Pretty much the same ships, daredevils, I fought a thorax and lived, I don't think he had a point.

So.... it is too late? I wont get enough isk to sustain buying pirate ships for a while. I have been cloak caping sites in FW for isk and it's not that great of money. I get like 100 mil then buy some ships. Yes I know that T2 guns and ammo are better.
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>>150095206
it's not entirely sp. you can get to within 90% effectiveness on small ships like frigates in a couple of weeks.

learning your engagement profile in a given ship is super important, because it's like rock paper scissors what you can kill and what can kill you (I'm not saying it's easy - it's hard because it requires learning sort of how everything is fit and what it can do, but it's needed).

Also it's quite likely that your mechanical execution isn't as good as it could be. Presumably you've been watching the Suitonia Eve Is Easy vids, and if you haven't, you should do that.

also in lowsec, you are likely to find a lot of people expensive as fuck implants (because it's hard for a player who knows what he's doing to lose pods in lowsec) and link alts (because lowsec is small, there are a lot of stations for your links to dock at, and moving them around with you isn't too hard) and drugs because why not. If you try your luck in null, it will be harder to get up and going when you get inevitably wrecked, but you'll find a lot more people with empty pods and no links. Also there are a lot of retards in null because giant alliances don't incentivize personal skill as much as the smaller pirate groups that live in lowsec, for a number of reasons.

consider getting the program Pirate's Little Helper to help you interpret some of the information about the people you are fighting.
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>>150095870
You dont need pirate ships for a while. all of them, except maybe worm are actually hard to fly.
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>>150095667
i dunno but hopefully it fixes the .massive frame drop issues
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>>150095870
he wasn't saying you should buy pirate ships, just that you should recognize pirate ship names when you see them and know that for now, they are a bit over your abilities to successfully engage.

this >>150095842 is totally wrong, though I would have said more like three months for a nice fat engagement profile. You can and should be out losing frigs and dessies even at a week old in order to learn what you can do with weak tools, though. do NOT fall into the trap of "i need to fly interceptors to do well" "i need to fly a svipul to do well" "i need to fly a recon cruiser to do well". You can kick ass in any ship against the right target, and fortunately plenty of dumb targets exist if you're smart about looking for them and recognizing them when you see them.
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>>150095206
>Should I just stick with one ship?

Up to you, but it's easier to learn one than learn them all. It's also better to focus your skills into t2 equipment for one type of ship.

Ship choice doesn't matter that much. Every ship can die and every ship can kill under proper conditions. You just have to learn what those are.

>Surely I shouldn't be sucking this hard just to start?

Imagine you were trying to play football, but having never learned to walk. This is what you're doing. Of couse you''l suck.

> Have you all been lying to me in that it really is too late to start playing eve because only hardcore people with 100m sp are the ones doing anything?

In frig fights, only 2-5m of those 100m sp can actually count.
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>>150095895
So a kiting ship gets beat by a brawling ship that lands on it? stuff like that?

I will watch those vids.

>>150096246
so avoid pirate ships.


>>150096438
So lets say I should just learn one engagement profile, what should I start with that is relatively easy?
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>>150097216
>what should I start with that is relatively easy?

Brawl Kestrel (overrated but it can get the job done). Watch Suitonia's vids for Kestrel memes. Also watch this if you think skills are limiting

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dgy17ji1RKI

Any kitey fit is also a good start (because all kitey shit is flown the same, and once you know one, you know them all). The trick is just to know the speed you need to go to outrange other ships. Basically you just have to learn what's faster than your ship, and ignore those.

My advice would be to train for a dessie and play with that. It's slower than a frig and dies more easily, but you are stronger than in a frig.
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>>150097216
yeah kestrels are popular
to the point that the most recent zkill guide video references suitonia https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LdPi67dDydg
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>zkill guide
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>>150097604
fuck off grandpa it's funny
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Zkill guide is copying the Le Cynical Man meme (without a brit accent) with Le computer Voice xDDDD so randum meme

combine the worst of both fucking worlds and churn this fucking shit out.
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>>150096246
I'm just saying most people willing to solo PvP will have 5 years of SP and ISK on him.
That's mostly true. Nearly everyone gives up on solo pvp until they reach that point where they can just casually replace pirate frigs with T2/cheap faction/cheap officer fit. Because, you know, everyone else soloing will have that kind of stuff.
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>>150097814
Le computer voice is just so funny that I keep watching it anyway.
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also he's an aids linkfag snake shitter
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>2016
>not using dual rep heron
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>>150097998
>tfw some guy brought a tackle heron to a fleet
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>>150097894
pls don't project that hard
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caw
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>some nosolo fag on /eog/ saying how everyone flies pirate frigs all the time

>mfw flying t1 master race
>mfw not being a faggot
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>>150094053
>cruises and gardes
negro either rhml + gecko
or cruise + bouncer

get gud
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>raven
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10 MORE DAYS FOR NMS BOISSSSSSSSSSSS
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>gardes
>ever
>not curators
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>>150099195
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>>150099570
Smallest battleship
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>>150099570
can you even land on planets in this game?
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>>150099649
No.
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>>150099649
Not but you can in Elite:Dangerous© with the Horizons© expansion.
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>>150099775
then what's the point?
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>>150099981
You can setup colonies for production and resource gathering etc.
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>>150099649
Back to "No multiplayer sky"
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>>150099981
SPREADSHEETS
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would you say r/eog needs more or less raven posting
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>>150100325
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>>150100495
THIS IS IMPORTANT PART OF THE GAME
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>>150095206
kill yourselv dumb frogposter
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>>150095206
>week old
>flying four races already

First and biggest problem right there. Choose one race, skill the fuck into them, get solid skills, and then branch out.

Tristans are easymode, get some t2 drones, keep everyone at range, and you'd have to be literally braindamaged to not win those engagements.

Or, if you really wanna good get, stop being a bottom bitch to another nullsec empire and join all-out
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>>150102458
>all-out
>good
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>>150102458
your gay
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hey can i join all-out
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>>150103505
don't speak to me or my orca ever again
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https://zkillboard.com/kill/55270851/

I don't even
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>>150099649
Tritanium breaks apart in the atmosphere or something like that
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>>150103764
>implying there is no Stainless Tritanium
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>>150103764

Hull tanking is shit anyway. It's all XLASB everywhere now.
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>>150103764
It actually "reacts violently" on contact with Oxygen.
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>joining allout
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>>150106392
what's the problem
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>>150106392
what is wrong here?
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>>150106624
>>150106524
>plate + rep

Oh wait no, I know nothing about fiting
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>>150106968
>le funny meme

plate rep is perfectly fine and that's a good fit, kys
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>>150106968
ancil is buffer, lad
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>>150106624
>>150106524
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fucking saved
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>>150107408
No.
>>150109009
>tengu dying to rats
The cap battery isn't even faction, lmao.
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Did suitonia really say to not fit faction ammo ?
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>>150111607
for nullsec, yes
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>>150111891
lol
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>>150112689
is something funny
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>let's purposely lower our dps!
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who are you quoting
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suitonia is a dumb lisping britmong with bad posture
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Just resubbed after a long break and found this from my first data site, do people even use these things?
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>>150097604
>>150097814
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>>150116106
looking at the stats they seem pretty garbage, unless they benefit from both the analyzer skills. if I wasn't lazy I'd get one on test server and see what's up, or maybe it's in pyfa
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>>150116206
>guys it's epic
>>le downvote everyone who disagrees
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>>150116106
Yes, they do.
Even though it sucks.
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>>150095206
I didnt kill you today did I? MoA killed a bunch of you guys today.
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>MoA
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>>150116106
>330 million ISK

Why are they so expensive?
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>>150118014
those components are like 300m
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>>150111607
For Rocket kestrel you don't have to. Tech Ii rage rockets apply just fine vs frigates especially if you have a web on you. The DPS gain you get from them is much better than the faction ammo

maybe learn how things work instead of parroting the same bullshit your FCs tell you because "that's the way it's always been done"
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>>150095206
>Have you all been lying to me in that it really is too late to start playing eve because only hardcore people with 100m sp are the ones doing anything?
Yes, they have, and yes, only veteran characters with millions of SP will ever get to do anything interesting.
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>>150118873
But Anon, he could totally be an F1 pusher/tackler in a big fleet or jus b gud and go solo pvp and create his own content! No need for skillpoints!
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>>150119186
Hey, tackles important even if he is just cannon fodder
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CCPL confrimed. Defenseless goon supercarrier unable to jump a gate leading to its death at the hands of cheat legion.
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epic nice meam
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>still no t1 destroyer buff
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>Make my Cata able to gank more stuff pls CCP
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>mfw highsec butthurt out of nowhere
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>there are devs out there who use the excuse that "players create their own content" as a crutch to make a mediocre game
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>There are devs out there who make games where all acceptable content is designed by them and ban players who deviate from their design
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>still sitting on this fucking gate
>go check belts for rats since no one is coming through
>no fucking rats at all
>see someone in local
>someone slipped through while i was checking the belts

FUCK THIS GAME
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>Skill training completed: Caldari Frigate and Light Missiles
I'm ready to meme, /eog/.
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>>150122736
You know you can jump in the gate too ?
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>>150123169
u goofed
rockets != light missiles
yeah missiles are weird and the two ranges in each size bracket require different skills

>captcha: 1499
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>>150123292

yeah and get podded on the other side and become someone's "content" because they have higher skills than me hurr durr muh sandbox
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>>150123169
what memes are you going for. light missiles are pretty overpowered
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>>150123169
Not until you get light missiles to V and train light missile specialization

You thought this game would let you fly a caracel competently in the first month? Guess again
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>>150123509
>muh 4%

doesn't matter much, and T2 long range missiles aren't a big deal. nice try though
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>>150123359
>Not fitting all types of missiles at once for maximum meme
Shiggy
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YOOO LMAO ZARVOX WENT STRAIGHT HAM ON INRI

INRI A SHIT 40V1 AND COULDN'T KILL HIM
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went straight what
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>>150123997
Health, Action, Mind. It's a Star Wars Galaxies term.
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>2016
>SWG
Thanks Sony. Btw this is what happens when a company fucks up the game and basicaly what the removeSP faggots want.
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>>150124121
That's stupid.
You should find an ID to max out mind and related stats and play rifleman/2H.
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>>150124279
How would this general know? It can't answer basic questions.
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>>150124279
>being this cucked by CCP that they want more SP skills
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>>150124279
SWG pre-CU wasn't much better, take off the nostalgia goggles and go check Basilisk.
The only good thing in SWG was JtL and it was basically a side game barely connected to the rest.
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>>150125659
>Watching twileks dance and being rewarded for it with buffs
>Not the greatest god-damn thing to ever happen in gaming
Pleb.
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we amarr now
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>>150126673
>Make female twi'lek.
>Equip revealing clothing.
>Dance.
>Fap.
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>buy punisher
>equip small focused beam lasers
>fap
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this game is boring
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>>150128094
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>RUSE.

get ready I'm comming for your white boi asses. I'm gonna make sure you all failcascade
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>>150128290
join all-out
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Eve would be a far better game if there were more fun vanity items to collect
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>>150128450
I jsut wish the PvE was more aRPG-like instead of...whatever the fuck it is now.
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Eve would be a far better game if there were more ISK sinks for vets and alliances.
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>>150128573
>Slicer
>FW Large
>Battleship follows you around at 3.5k m/s
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What happened in 2014?
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>>150128945
input broadcasting was officially banned
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>>150128945
nothing. that's the problem. CCP keeps using the meme of "players create their own content in a sandbox" to continuously put out mediocre patches.
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>>150128945
pizza died
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>>150129204
That was in November. Did they really announce it in March?
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>>150129387
i thought it was in june or july
but yeah they announced several months before
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>>150129537
Mm.. pretty sure the forum post in November was the first announcement, and bans began in January '15.

https://www.themittani.com/news/breaking-ccp-bans-input-broadcastng

http://www.dual-boxing.com/content/138-EVE-Online-multiboxing-rules-changing-in-January-2015-The-beginning-of-the-end
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>>150129612
oh shit you're right
maybe it was the drop after B-R when everyone realized that the goons had everything tied up for the forseeable future while PL rebuilt
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join snuff
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>mfw brutor claim they were there
>mfw they werent there
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tfw sapporo is watching
SAPPORO IS WATCHING

join all-out
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>brutor
>telling the truth ever
>being right about anything

CCP should drop Brutors and replace them with Thukkers.
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>>150131209
who
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>she doesnt know
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>>150131209
i'm always surprised to see him there desu
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>>150131209
le subaru meme man :DDD
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>check /eog/
>page 10
>still no svipul nerf
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If a system is empty, then does it still exist?
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>>150135341

yes, my blueprint cookies are baking there
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>>150135341
The game is still calculating things in that system. I doubt very many systems are truly "empty" in the sense that no one is logged out there, nothing is anchored there, no PI is being done there, no one has sovreinigty there, or assets there. etc etc.
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>blob svipulfag
>he shittalks you in local

m8
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Is this game dead

I heard it like UO but with less bullshit and in space but that it's also dead
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>>150138275
No not really. It might very well be "dying" but if it is, it will be a pretty slow protracted death the severe autism of the playerbase will keep it ticking along for several years at the very VERY least.
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http://updates.eveonline.com/date/2016-08-09/

>Visual Damage System Iteration
>Physically Based Rendering for Space Assets
>Cloud Performance Improvements
>Cargo & Fleet Hold Feedback
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>tfw no serpentis Talos with bonused webs and guns

This shit would've been DANK
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>tfw no guristas rokh
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>tfw no EoM faction ships
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>>150139462
ha, memes
sound broken as fuck desu
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>tfw no web nerf
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where the cal+min pirates @
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>tfw no kitefaggotry nerf
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>cal
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>>150141075
>remove mordu's legion tackle range bonus
>change skill to caldari minmatar

solve two problems at once
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Eve private server when?
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>>150142186
There's literally no reason to suggest a private server over discussing no SP. They're both equally as unlikely.
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>>150142186
just join a wormhole corp if you want to farm masses of isk and never see any other people and then realise it's boring
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>>150127210
post comfiest control bridges
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>>150142186
there was actually a private server tool a while ago except it was shit and quickly got abandoned
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>>150141294
Thats doesn't even make sense lore wise there's nothing miniature about modus legion
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>>150148007
who cares
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>>150148075
Every faction has a lore there are more pirate faction that doesn't have an associated lore with an empire faction
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>>150152126
>ccp why do 90% of pirate factions have a gallente skill requirement?
>because it says in the muh chronicles
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>attempt nullsec roaming for the first time
>build a meme kestrel with a friend
>go out
>spot 2 dudes
>easy kills
>get one
>about to kill another
>bubble goes up
>all his friends warp in
>we die

honestly i'm not even mad that's the most fun i've had in this game since i started. I should do this more often.
>>
$15, it's this or WoW pre-xpac.

Debate.
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>>150152861
Go with WoW so that you'll fit right in with all the other faggots that play it
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>>150152637
proud of what you're trying to do anon, actually playing eve instead of carebearing doing boring as fuck l3 or l4 mission spam.

keep at it, maybe try to join a corp that does roaming in frigs and go together, roaming has a certain rhythm to it that isn't obvious when you first try to do it.
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>>150153030
My favorite moments in Eve have been when I'm roaming with a nullsec corp

So many crazy things can happen
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>>150153140
Yeah those are easily the best moments.

Especially when you do risky shit like flying around providence in a gang of frigates hoping you can catch some fleets scout or tackler that went ahead and then gank them before his friends warp in and then bail out.
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>>150152998
Not an argument.

WoW's colorful, has a character that I could max out in about a week instead of 3 years whatever bullshit, has arenas and a whole demographic trying to play them (so finding actual dudes to Skype and play with is simple), and plausibly interesting raiding.
>>
>comms mandatory for organized pvp and every single pvp oriented corp has them
>somehow implying that it's hard to find people with comms to play with
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>>150153398
k go play wow then
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>>150153398
I'd say EVE has the potential to be a deep sandbox, a point over WoW, but I'm not sure it does.
>>
This is the worst fit ever
https://zkillboard.com/kill/55346963/
>>
querious is full of fags and broski is going to purge it
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>>150152861
I legit am thinking about grabbing legion after having unsubbed.

I don't give a fuck what ya niggas says, Legion will keep me entertained more than eve would've. I mean, let's be fucking real here, I play vidyas to dick around and entertain myself. Can you say that about eve?
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>>150159727
yes
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>>150159727
>Can you say that about eve?
yep
I play both
>>
So the silver chest from the event dropped. 2 copper, 1 silver and 2 gold accelerators and 3 skins. Is that the same for everyone or it varies?
>>
>Xe fell for the Event meme
>mfw gold accelerators only give you 100k SP and you would've had a better grind session if you just grinded isk and got yourself a skill injector

You are literally the definition of cuck
>>
>implying I'm gonna use the accelerators
>hehe le epic cuck meme instawin argument how will i ever recover
>>
who are you quoting?
>>
At what point should I feel ok with buying Skill Injectors? I have about 800 million but I gotta figure i'm eventually going to fuck up and have to refit a new ship after PvP or something.
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>>150162525
just fly frigates
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>>150162525
500k sp is 7.7 days worth of training at 2700sp/hr.
Doesn't look remotely worth it to me.
But then i am in an odd position as my chars have 50m sp, but i never played very actively, and so never had much ISK.
Exctractors on the other had...
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you got two gold from the silver? that sounds wrong

but yes it varies
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>>150162525
all money after youve purchased your money generating ships should be spent on skill injectors.
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Some guy must have figured out the ideal role distribution for 2 accounts, right?
Account 1 - character x:
PVP
Hauling
Ships

Accoint 2 - chacater y:
mining
trade
PVE

I'm sitting here trying to decide which character should do what, so that i avoid overlap.
I'm guessing the rest of the character slots in each account should be filled with cyno alts, yes?
>>
>Xe fell for the multiboxing meme

Enjoy your burn out in a few weeks. It's like CCP wants players to do everything for them to burn out and unsub
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>>150163253
I mean for example, PVE and trade naturally synergise because of standings
Production has to be spread out over several characters to be worth it, right? Not something i intend to get into...

I guess Capitals are best left to an entirely separate character? Fuck capitals...
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>>150163253
account 1: pvp (pve skills are the same)
cyno alt

account 2: cap pilot
I would say links alt but thats getting nerfed soon.
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>>150163969
that doesnt mean alts couldnt still do links, it just means you have to make them be on grid, so more management
>>
>hauling
lol
>ships
lol
>mining
lol
>trade
no more than a week of training
>pve/pvp
99% overlap

>>150163969
this pretty much
cyno and cap pilots are pretty much the only reason to not just use 1 pilot
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>the capital ships meme

Enjoy being cucked to your alliance
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>>150164652
>cuck
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>>150164095
>>trade
>no more than a week of training
Yeah well, i have made some strange choices in the past
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>>150165389
Do you ever use up all of those orders? I can't stand managing more than 50 or so at once.
>>
>mfw be amarrian couple.
>brutor descent son.
what.
>>
>>150162981
>that sounds wrong
Well, I'll enjoy my bug money then.
>>
>>150165498
I can have some orders on very slow things or multiple orders on the same thing when you don't want to cancel and relist the old one because muh taxes. I'm not even a trader, but I have like 40+ orders with my manufactured stuff all the time.
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>>150169245
taxes are applied when the item actually sells
>>
>>150169394
I think he meant broker fees.
>>
>>150169394
Or the broker fee or whatever it is. The shit you pay when setting up the order.
>>
>>150169454
>>150169465
which are avoidable by selling in a citadel
but yeah i knew what he meant
>>
Citadels are only good for plex and injectors.

Also btw, enjoy your citadel monopol soon. Some IWI banker is planning to overtake it.
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>>150169602
who cares
>>
How's a blops to farm 10/10 ?
>>
You can't top No Mans Sky. That MMO will be epic.
>>
>minecraft in space
>>
If I don't have an email for EVE, what's the best site? Pretty sure google asked me for a phone number.
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Stuck in the safety of WH space for another 3 days. What "fun" games can I play in the meanwhile?
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>>150174597
WoW.
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>>150174167
cock.li
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>>150163443

That sounds awfully like every other MMO ever.
>>
>>150174619

But Mr. Anonovich, I quit WoW because it was too much like EVE
>>
How many people play thisat a time

steam says about 700 but I assume most don't play through there
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>>150095842
I do indeed enjoy the whining of faggots that always use the same old argument "omg I cant catch up people been playing for ONE DAY more than me, I quit"

Fucking reckful of EVE.
>>
>>150176426
21k rn
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>>150176034
WoW and EVE gameplay aren't similar.
>>
>>150176647
bullshit

it's the same shit, do x to get better y to do x again with higher numbers
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>>150128094
>animu
>aero
>vsync input lag
>sarashawa
>not dual monitors
>a trap
>being gay
>>
>>150176741
So you havnt really played both
>>
>>150176741
have you ever considered that maybe you dont like mmos?
>>
>>150176441
At least it's not "spreadsheets".

I would shill for this game if literally anybody else on /v/ seemed to give a shit or seemed to know what they were talking about. Most of the EVE community doesn't even realize that AI piloting is inefficient.
>>
>>150164652
>not training in carriers for dankest of ticks
newfag spotted
>>
>>150177023
ticks?
>>
why is there no extra training for flying a supercarrier?
>>
>>150177236
what is a heavy fighter ?
>>
>>150177294
oh its in other things, ok
>>
>>150177125
PvE bounty payouts.
>>
whats best carrier for big fleet fights?
>>
Solo Huginn Y/N?
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MAXIMUM SALVAAAAAAAAGE
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>>150179992
5 whole metal scraps, you're rich.
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>2016
>noctis
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>>150179992

Is this a bait interface solely designed to draw anger and bewilderment?
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>>150179658
Seen it done well, seen it fuck up hard.
>>
Is there an extended trial for recruits?
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>>150181115
21 day, yes.
>>
Marvin got 90% Kinetic resist
Kevin alpha Marvin with a 1000 damage missile ( ignore sig, velo, etc )
Marvin will take only (1-0,9)*1000 kinetic damage

AM I RITE ?
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>>150181623
If scourge missile then yes.
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>>150181698
Yes, a scourge one, thank you
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reyni post feet
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>Rattlesnek
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Post your/saved best screenshot.
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I need someone who knows the 10/10 BR very well, does the tower keep the focus on the first ship to leave the warp ?
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How do you guys make your isk? I currently have a carrier ratting alt, incursion alt, 3 sp farm characters. I'm currently investing all the isk I make into sp farms. About to set up 6 more characters.
>>
If you had to choose one and only one, /eog/, hybrids, lasers, projectiles, or missiles?
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>>150183606
projectile easy
>>
>0/80,000 ore mined
Great event, CCP.
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>>150183606
Lasers because infinite ammo.
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>>150183789
>muh free minerals
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>>150183606
drones are a weapon system too ;_;
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Are there burgers in New Eden?
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Ameriburgers yes.
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>>150186363

Make your stay at Jita more enjoyable with a delicious Lai Dai Burger! Buns made with real* Amarr wheat and minimally engineered angus beef.
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>>150187203
Your stay in Jita can never be an engaging experience without a good old Nugoeihuvi burger, made with real Minmatar, wild wheat and our mystery sauce!
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Reminder that Quafe is best
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>quafe
>implying any self respecting capsuleer would drink soft drinks
>>
join inri
>>
>literally immortal
>giving a single fuck about what you eat or drink
>>
>being immortal
>being forever a fat greasy space neckbeard
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>>150188350
allways good to keep a healthy diet for dem sp gains
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>
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>>150164095
>cyno and cap pilots are pretty much the only reason to not just use 1 pilot
This

Your main can already do like 60% of the skills required for a cap and the last 3 months of training are the capital skills. Don't waste effort training another character for something your main is already proficient at. Unless its a super or titan and your character is locked to it you don't need to make a dedicated dread or carrier alt
>>
is any of those content packs worth it?
>>
>>150190916
yea they sometimes are, don't get the miner or exploration one since you get all that stuff from the in game tutorial anyway.
>>
>>150190965
thanks is there a way to see if my PLEX is on my acc already so ican use the 4 hour time to activate a PLEX thingy? kinda scared i use it and my PLEX isnt there yet
>>
>>150191162
you might be able to activate your plex from the account page, if the plex is in the redeeming system you can use it from the account page to activate game time
>>
>>150191162
Also you realize that these content packs are for new accounts right?
>>
>>150191382
was thinking about buying one for a friend
>>150191303
isnt there so my only way is the 4 hour thing right?
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>>150191467
>isnt there so my only way is the 4 hour thing right?
yes
>>
>912 mil ISK for a PLEX

shit when i sold mine years ago im sure i didnt get more than 600
>>
>>150100801
>>150100325
My dick literally couldn't be harder anon.
>>
should i buy the Hyperion? i do mainly PVE until i find someone to play with
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>>150193328
It's not that great for PVE. It's good for PVP.
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>transporting expidition frigates and tech 2/faction BPCs from Jita in Tayra
>trying to be careful
>get to gate
>internet goes out
>get back in
>spawn in pod
>kill report from two nestors and an interceptor
why the fuck do I even play this stupid ass game
>>
>>150193419
oh ok thanks is it like horrible for PvE or just not as good as other ships in that class?
>>
>Nestor

sorry to hear that ramirez, but if you were at war they would've fucked you up regardless of your internet going out
>>
>>150194201
PVE's all about using the best DPS+damage projection you can find. Tank bonuses don't help that much.

Domi's better if you're gallente, Rattlesnake, Vindicator and Machariel if you wanna mix.
>>
>>150194262
Yeah, I didn't notice that they were at war. It's bullshit though, because I almost guarantee they weren't there for me, they're a merc corp that got hired to do a small job on my corp, which is in the process of disbanding. If my internet hadn't gone out, my ship wouldn't have stayed in space, and I would have been able to instajump.
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>>150194468
yes, and their interceptor would've jumped with you and easily tackled you
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>>150194602
yeah
well
that's a valid point
>>
>>150194398
thanks for the help didnt play in a long ass time and when i played i just mined and did pretty much nothing coordinated
>>
>>150195003
You're welcome senpai. Mail Satori Sartori in-game if you need more directions some other time. It's a hard game to get into.
>>
>>150191162
tangentially related but anyone with an active account is able to activate one of their plex on another character, thereby donating game time to them (the recipient doesn't have to be subbed at the time).

So for instance, you could get one of your friends to resub you and pay them back in a longer form than the 4 hours CCP requires. Or you could run a buddy trial and get a plex with some elbow grease and then apply it to your main.
>>
>>150194135
petition it, say your internet went out. you might get the stuff back, but the attackers will keep the killmail.
>>
Is it worth coming back to Eve Online? Most shit i see from this thread is just complaining and moaning?
>>
>>150195590
play the game if you want to
>>
>>150195401
How does one petition to reclaim lost items?
>>
>>150195590
Come play and then complain and moan too.
>>
>>150195136
thanks yeah its kinda hard to get back into

>>150195281
i already did the 4 hour thing but thanks for the help anyways one of my friends will try to get a PLEX with a buddy trial ( and i will pay him a few houndred mils if he doesnt make it)
>>
>>150196153
something like the f12 menu ingame to submit a ticket. describe the situation briefly but mention the key details (internet dropped, instawarp ship) and ask nicely if you are eligible for reimbursement.

>>150195590
i play plenty, and my corp is active. whether you should come back depends on why you left. i would not take this thread too seriously on a lot of things.
>>
>snuff dick lovers in this very thread RIGHT NOW.
>>
>>150196153
https://support.eveonline.com/hc/en-us

it usually takes them days to get to a reimbursement petition
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>Not wanting the B B C
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>>150192769
It was at 1.2B
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who here has No Man's Sky preordered? It's a fact it is THE Eve killer.
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>>150197226
isnt it just exploring ? that doesnt sound like an EVE killer preordered it anyways
>>
>>150197226
Herbe de provence + Paris' mushroom
>>
What is/was hulkageddon
Like six years ago when i started my first trial they were talking about it in rookie chat but i never figured out what that was.
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>>150200064
goon op where you go around killing hulks
that's it
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how many of those "packages" is it going to dl? is it ready to play after the ~3 gigs or does a new pack start with 3,5 gig again
>>
2003 player here, returning to the game today after a couple of years away.

Alliance is gone.
Corp is gone.
Half my shit is gone.

I left because I was burned out but this is a nice fresh start, i'm actually excited to get in.

I've noticed there's a few new ships and skills etc, as well as a huge overhaul to how I remember most things looking/working, particularly probe scanning, is it really as simple as it appears now?

I like the look of these tactical destroyers, grabbed a gallente one and it's a good bit of fun.

However, i'm utterly perplexed about this research minigame thing, why am I doing it? What am I gaining? Why does it seem bullshit sometimes and are there skills relevant to it?
>>
>>150200567
The new destroyers are really good basically overpowered, particularly the minmatar one, don't let that dissuade you though.

Reasearch mini-game isn't super important, don't worry about it.
>>
>>150200064
Yearly holiday where people go gank hulks in high sec.
Then it was all mining ships.
Then it was made permanent by the organisers.
Then there was that corp/alliance doing it year-round and letting miners buy monthly "permits" for 10 mil.
I don't know if they're still active.
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>>150200917
>I don't know if they're still active.
I wonder what the mysterious pranksters are called
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>>150200064
it was a suicide ganking event pushed by r/eog's helicity boson

but now people just suicide gank mining barges all the time. since the mining barge changes, there's 2 types of 'tanky' mining barges that are pretty hard to gank. the other 4 types just get ganked all the time in highsec
>>
>>150200760
>hecate
>overpowered
>>
I only mine in hi-sec with my faction hull-tanked Orca. It's slow but relatively secure.
>>
>this t3d is LESS overpowered than the other three so it's balanced!

lmao
>>
>>150201267
>20K EHP
>6 T2 blasters with a RoF bonus and a damage bonus
>almost 3km/s

How exactly isn't it?
>>
>>150201074
The alliance is CODE. or something. I forgot the corp's name.
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>>150201341
>>150201430

>mfw retards in /dog/

the only overpowered thing about it is instawarping

>3km/s

lmao, look at its base speed in def mode, it's about as fast as a battleship

>20k ehp

it's hull ehp, it's useless
>>
>>150201430
>20k EHP
>3km/s

Pick one.

Also, it dies to anything that scrams and webs it and can get away further than 2km.
>>
>T3D apologists

I don't even read their posts. Subhumans shouldn't be allowed to post.
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>>150201271
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>>150201557
I know, I was joking, because everyone knows who code is
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>>150201672
>Svipul
>1,037,147 kills

>Confessor
>479,995 kills

>Jackdaw
>191,463 kills

>Hecate
>152,595 kills

kys
>>
m8s what would happen if the svipul would get nerfed to jackdaw levels
>>
>muh stats

I'm ashamed to have even had to read your post. How do you even breathe?
>>
>>150202019
it would still be too good, like the jackdaw
>>
>>150202019
People would complain about the confessor.

And if that got nerfed people would complain about all of them at once.
>>
>>150202087
that would actually be a good thing
>>
>>150202087
if you aren't already complaining about the confessor you're shit
>>
>>150201808
What's the corp's name then? The ones that "create content" by blowing up miners and threatening to blow up others unless they pay?
>>
>>150202157
well this thread right here has just said the hecate is shite so?
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>mfw CCP transforms assault frigates into t3 frigs
>>
>>150202324
aside from the fact that i have no idea what the fuck a T3F would do, i'd be okay with it
>>
I'm new back to the game, what's so special about these new frigates and destroyers?

I get that the destroyers are powerful combat vehicles for their size, is that true of the frigates?
>>
>>150202428
there are no new frigates, what are you talking about
>>
>>150202242
There are lots of different corps in Code, but I believe Hulkageddon started as a goonswarm operation
>>
>>150202561
but muh helicity
>>
Carriers are super fun to use with the new updates
>>
>"fun"
>grievously overpowered

every time
>>
>>150203650
Don't get mad your roaming picogang blob can't kill a skilled and effective carrier pilot
>>
>skilled
>capital pilot
>>
>>150203993
>skilled
Of course, the more SP you have, the harder you are to kill.
>>
>>150204126
Correct.
Your 3 man orthrus kiting gang can't keep a carrier down and kill it anymore.
>>
any general tips for a newcomer?
>>
>>150205436
Buy a years old char if you want to have some fun.
If you don't mind having a second job for a couple years until you can start to have fun, keep "playing".
>>
>>150205593
so when does it start being fun no meme answers pls i mean what do i need to have to have "fun"
>>
>>150206014
It's fun right away, you don't need SP to have fun, what you need is people to play with.
>>
>>150206014
Just go solo pvp with one day of skilling up while you do the career tutorials.
It'll be fun.
>>
>>150205436
get m8s, do shit with them

doing shit on your own is hard and boring
>>
>>150206168
true
>>150206214
kek
>>150206264
true
tfw alone
>>
>>150206014
it's fun right away in that you will be flying a shit slasher and be the alliance's cuck tackler getting wiped off the field in less than 2 seconds. have fun!
>>
>>150206510
>le cuck meme
>and the rest of the post is awful too

stop
>>
>>150206636
nice ad hominem
>>
>>150206680
nice shifting the goalposts
>>
If I want to get into trading, and I mean actually hauling shit around, how would I get started with that? Small scale to start with obviously, I don't have the funds to immediately fill a freighter.
>>
>>150206916
you can't do it without a t2 hauler or a freighter, or getting someone to move things for you, like public courier contracts

>CCP in charge of good game design
>>
>>150206916
Check the out of game market tools, find a trade route where you can buy low at point A, sell at point B, buy something else at point B, sell high at point A, rebuy there, rinse, repeat. I hope you have a Netflix account or something.
Never use autopilot, too.
>>
what is good to make ISK ? mining looks boring but i can live with that
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>>150207162
git gud
Then you can make ISKs with anything!
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>>150205436
Don't become a dishonorable fotm svipul or orthrus baboonfag.

Strive to be the honorabru solo/small/medium gang roamer that everybody remembers fondly.
>>
>>150207162
be a good cucker and pay a sub and buy plexes :^)

it's what the gud players do
>>
>>150207162
Mining is not good. Pretty much anything else is better.
>>
>>150207276
>Make friend.
>Make friends.
>Make corp together.
>Everyone having fun.
>Making bank together.
>Decide to put some stuff in the corp's hold for future players or whenever someone needs something.
>Friend leaves with everything.
Typical Eve Online friendship.
>>
>>150205436
join all-out

eve is shit without m8s
>>
>>150207717
also remember:
stitch kaneland is good
chessur is bad
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>>150094530
>not using Rapid launchers for PVE
>>
soo what is the first thing i should check out/do after not playing for a few years ?
is there anything new i should know about or is it the same with a bit more content
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>>150207479
CCP:

>hahaha isn't out game great? plays can ruin the experience of others there is no other game like this our game is so great because we strive to be unique by making bad design decisions hahaha how great is eve do you enjoy pve? here how about you shit afk killing rats with bad ai or shooting a virtual rock literally not touching a single button for 30 minutes how great is our game guys no other like it
>>
EVE online is so great that it has people shitposting about it on /eog/ even though they don't play it for years.

checkmate brutorfags
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>never ever
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Shield sin
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>>150210236
never ever what?

I used mine when they were given out with some friends in a newbie zone.

What more do you want from it?
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>>150210668
something useful with that model, it looks cool
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>>150210624
is best sin
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>>150210706
Oh I see. Agreed.
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lads do you have any officer modules on any of your ships
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>rat anoms
>mtu sites
>come by later to pick up mtus
>make a cool 80m in random loot
>reprocess most of it for minerals
>use minerals to build cheap cruisers and mods
>use salvage to make rigs
>buy only a few necessary T2 mods

tfw getting paid to rat
tfw getting free mins and shit
tfw nullsec life is easy
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>>150211490
>paying to stare at a screen doing nothing
>>
>>150211602
>paying for something i find enjoyable
holy shit
>>
>>150211423
no because I actually use my ships
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>>150211840
>he enjoys staring at a screen and not having any input in the game except for every minute to press F1
>>
>>150211490

i do the same thing
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>>150212178
Pvp?
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>>150212324
>hurr orbit F1 to kill inferior ship/fleet
>gameplay so great and excite
>>
>>150202536
Since t3ds, ccp has introduced faction ewar frigs, t2 logi frigs, and t2 mining frigs. The ewar frigs are very effective, the logi frigs are gear for small gangs, and the mining frigs are meh except for memes like tackle prospect or sigtanking gas sites.
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>>150212723
>ratting is boring
>production is boring
>pressing F1 is boring
>staring at a screen is boring
anon, what are you doing here if you don't like eve?
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>>150213102
ok I guess, but none of them are things people are getting mad about like t3ds. they're not very important or overly used, so I don't know why a new player would be asking what's up with them
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>The ewar frigs are very effective
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Why are some skins just absent from the store?

Take the Iterons for example, each ship can buy both the serpentis or valimor skins, except for the epithal, that one can't buy the skin, despite it being a skin for the ship.

Is there a reason?
>>
>>150213303

navy maulus is dank as fuck
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>>150213496
it's the worst of the 4, it's really pretty shit
>>
>>150213716

its really not but nice try
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>>150214541
>0 dps
>0m/s

>but it can catch stabbed farmers pretty well xd
>>
I DONT KNOW WHAT NEW SHIP I SHOULD FLY, GUYZ HELP ME,
A SUPERCAP? A BLOPS? A MARAUDER?
OH MY GOD IT DRIVES ME CRAZY, I'M TORMENTED, MY SKILL QUEUE IS ALMOST DONE, I DONT KNOW WHAT TO DO
WHERE'S THE FUN IN THAT

WHERE
IS
THE
FUN
>>
>>150214726
>special snowflake shit

stop being a faggot, fly a t1 frig destroyer cruiser bc or bs
>>
>>150214726
>WHERE
>IS
>THE
>FUN

in Star Citizen mate, you can even see the inside of you're ship
>>
>>150214937
Already flew (flown?) that, I want something new

>>150214984
It's even a game yet, will never be ready
>>
>>150215229
it's not even*
>>
>>150214608

>ships have strengths and weaknesses

well god damn
>>
>>150216501
you're making a great case
>>
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rHsgUq9m5zs

why does he use beams with gleam instead of pulse with conflag or multifreq?
conflag would do more damage and multifreq is similar damage but with better tracking since you're using pulse lasers
>>
>>150216646

i know even though i don't need to
>>
so I left the game just around the same time that planetary interaction was introduced, don't remember exactly when that was, maybe a year or two ago.

I come back today and I see that my planet bases are still there and, while obviously not doing anything, had done some work before going offline and then held on to their contents for all that time, just picked up about 130M ISK worth of planet shite.

Is it worth getting into?
>>
why do short range weapons have better tracking

shouldn't long range weapons track better?
>>
punisher gang
>>
>>150217147
Yes, you can make like 15m per day doing NOTHING but 5min interaction everyday so 450m
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>>150217198
what is angular velocity ?
>>
>>150217198
so that they can hit shit when you're in close range with higher traversal
>>
>>150217198
Short range weapons need to track better.

If two ships have the same traversal compared to you, but one is 10 kilometers away and the other is 50 away, the closer one will have much higher angular velocity. You wouldn't be able to hit anything with short range weapons if they had the same tracking as long range weapons.
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>>150217215
x punisher
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>>150216965
anyone know?
>>
Eve is dying and we’re the ones killing i

http://crossingzebras.com/eve-is-dying-and-were-the-ones-killing-it/

thoughts?
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>>150221578
I'm not reading something with a title like that
>>
>>150221578

read it earlier, there's a few good points in there but overall its bullshit

he's right about the csm fiasco
>>
yeah there were a few good points, enough that I could count with one hand, but the rest was just melodramatic dribble with no backing other than "this is how I feel".
>>
>crossingzebras
>>
>>150223094
>melodramatic dribble with no backing other than "this is how I feel"

welcome to media

>>150223197

its not all bad, that and eve24 are really the only places worth reading
>>
>eve "news"
>>
>>150223557

its ok, some day you'll leave empire and need to know about the world around you

that also applies to your moms basement
>>
>>150223929
The only relevant eve site is zkill. You attention whoring memebloggers are literally nothing.
>>
>>150223557
>>150223929
Yes Anon, leave empire, go to null, get blown up on the way, go back again, and then become a tackler or F1 pusher in a big null empire, that's the ~real game~ as played by ~real players~, while you're not really playing or creating content right now.
>>
>>150224162

>muh killboards

>>150224231

>implying lowsec isn't the biggest f1 blob fest
>>
Lel.
>>
>>150224521
Haha this goes right on reddit, amirite? Coll drama for lots of upboats.
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>content
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>>150224521

shame, i wanted to see infamous get btfo by tri
>>
>>150224468
Ah, that's probably true.
AFK ratting/mining in nullbaby space probably means that low has proportionally more F1 blobs than null.
>>
>>150216965
when we were doing that, the beams using aurora were essential for long-range blapping of frigs and taking chunks out of cruisers and towers early. pulse does more damage up close, but the long range of beams allows you to make some progress before the webs and neuts start. otherwise you might as well use a svipul. Which reminds me that the reason I hated using a svipul is because the webs are serious business and burning into range is non-trivial. I'm not super familiar with scorch range on a confessor but I imagine that it's shorter than many beam ammos.
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>>150216965
>why does he use beams with gleam instead of pulse with conflag or multifreq?
because the confessor works better with beams

beams and gleam do more damage than pulses, they have way better range and the slightly less tracking doesn't affect the confessor at all.

>conflag would do more damage
beams do more damage than pulses
>>
>>150226247
DESU beams and pulses are kind of fucked up

The only real purpose to use pulses now is purely for tracking, the balance across the sizes is really messed up

small weapons: beams are superior in almost every fashion than pulses beyond tracking

medium weapons: beams are again superior in damage and shit than pulses beyond tracking. Quad light beams do more damage than focused beam lasers for some reason, the only pulse weapon that stands out is heavy pulses, any other pulse laser is pointless

Large: tachyons aren't explicitly better because tracking becomes a real issue, while nightmares tend to use tachyons, marauders and other battleships generally stick to pulses because of fitting issues. Seriously no T1 battleship can do a full rack of tachyons and work well without a bajillion fitting mods.

X-large? Pulses only, beams are worthless
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>>150226247
>beams do more damage than pulses
how? at short range shouldnt pulse be doing more damage on a stationary target let alone something you have to track?
>>
>>150226998
>how? at short range shouldnt pulse be doing more damage on a stationary target let alone something you have to track?
the tracking on beams isn't an issue because its so high to start

its not like Heavy Pulses vs Heavy beams where the difference in tracking is HUGE, almost 3x more tracking on heavy pulses than medium beams.

Small focused beams and Dual-light beams by extension have amazing tracking, sure small focused pulse lasers have better tracking but its not really needed when the beams already track fine to begin with.
>>
>>150227270
that's weird but ok
>>
>tfw 70k aurora range on fessor
>>
https://soundcloud.com/user-897708858/trafalgar-defends-the-great-welp-of-2016

this is why I hate fucking comms
>>
>not enjoying stupid faggots on comms
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OpQ09N3I1tU
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>>150227785
these things are the best, IMO they out perform ONI's purely because of the ludicrous range, speed, and everything.
>>
>pyfa
>>
>>150229692
nothing wrong with pyfa
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>nothing wrong with pyfa
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>>150230060
>can't name any reasons
>posts will smith
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>>150230060
>implying
>>
>>150214726
supes are p fun

especially clubbing dumb test redditors with them
>>
tfw shit
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>there are people right in this thread who don't fly the best HAC
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>>150231964
I don't know that feel.
>>
>flying hacs
>>
who else here miserable and wants to end it all?
>>
>>150232762
dude, same
>>
>>150232762
If you kill yourself can I have your stuff?
>>
>>150232762
Send me ur isk.
>>
>>150221578
all this seems to boil down to "there is real conflict in the game right now, waa"

which is real strange because I could have sworn that six months ago people were saying "man, everything is stagnant because all the top people know each other personally and have been in all the alliances and have nice chats and organize fights, and it's hard to make yourself log in and shoot someone when it doesn't matter and you don't hate the other person. It was better back in [the great war][the halloween war][etc] when people were really fighting."
>>
is there anything to do besides doing PvE when im too much of a chicken to do PvP in my Hyperion?
>>
>>150236005
>"there is real conflict in the game right now, waa"

most of the big shit happens from real fucking stupid reasons
if people were on top of it, there would be no pvp outside of small gangs

>Asakai
some faggot clicked Jump To instead of Bridge To

>B-R
some faggot forgot to pay his bills

the fact is, most people are happy just pussy footing around in small subcaps, they don't want to bring out the big guns because why would they? there's no point.
>>
>>150237848
no, those are your two options when flying ships

you could insure it, meta fit it and go exploring in null looking at the pretty constellations and stuff until you die. insurance should be pretty good so you won't lose much.
>>
>>150237848

pvp in something else

although the hyperion is a legit solo pvp boat
>>
>>150232762
Me
I set up a dead man's switch so one of my corp mates gets my account once my nitrogen arrives
>>
>>150238051
im just not very confident in my PvP skills and im not sure what stuff to fit even tho money isnt a real problem im just not sure what to use and PvE isnt really helping because everything kinda works
>>
>>150237848
it's not a matter of having balls, it's a matter of being dumb or willing to throw money away
>>
are bpo's a worthwhile investment just to sell copies?
>>
>>150238589
join all-out
nootkin has definitely run insurance fraud bs roams from time to time
at least one stasis grappler and blasters, if i had to guess
if you're not confident in your pvp skills, don't fly a solo BS for crying out loud, go get a destroyer or something
>>
>>150239162
ah ok thanks i just solo mined + PvE a few years ago and just bought the biggest i could
>>
Is there a reason every skin doesn't have a drop version? It's a fucking sub MMO.
>>
>>150239162
even if you have top notch pvp skills you shouldn't be flying solo bs, at least not regularly. more like you should realise why it's stupid and not going to get anything done
>>
>>150239469
no
skins are actually a shoa
>>
>>150239558
Because it doesn't affect gameplay.
>>
Breacher>kestrel
>>
>>150243321
no
>>
>>150242624
Not an argument.
>>
>he actualy believes kestrel is better than breacher
>>
>>150244946
not an argument
>>
>>150244946
>>150245040
>>150245730
not an argument.
>>
>>150245620
not an argument
>>
>>150245620
they're very different

sorry for not posting a meme
>>
>no posts for 20 minutes
>suddenly a torrent of funposts

must be a lonely night, my friend
>>
>>150246221
>SKINs don't affect gameplay
So what? Why is it OK to sell microtransactions to subscribers? They don't have a decent F2P model. I can't watch ads to pay for my sub or try Netflix. They don't provide a decent method to make ISK in the game that's interesting or quick, without it requiring a bunch of SP, which also costs ISK / real money.
>>
>>150247153
Even WoW is F2P to level 20.
>>
>>150247153
welcome back
>>
>>150213352
i think some are rewards for certain things, like pvp tournaments etc. idk for sure though
>>
day fucking FIVE of sitting on this fucking stupid gate I CANT PAY FOR MY FUKCING PLEX GOD DAMN IT THIS GAME HAS NOTHING TO FUCKING DO
>>
>>150247990
dude youre on day 7 now, youre not keeping up with your meme well enough
>>
>>150248079
i thought it was day six
>>
>>150247990

ahahaha what
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>>150252210
this is really expensive, I'd rather fly a vindi desu
>>
Isn't the bonused painter better than dual web for arty?
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where do you stand faggots?
check boxes that apply to you/you have done
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>>150252891
>>
>>150252891
>>150253042
haha awsum, many upboats :)
>>
>>150252795

Can't range control with a painter, newfag.
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>>150232489

>pic unrelated
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>>150252891
according to e621's search bar history i haven't done those specific tags but I do have a lot that are similar :3

Sergaljerk is recruiting
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>>150256448
head into our gay channel and start recruiting
we have a lot of fucking gays
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>>150256448
>>
>tripfagging dogfucking redditor
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>>150259234
I've been on 4chan before reddit was even a thing desu senpai. Also I don't fuck dogs only people in dog costumes.

>>150256873
What channel do you mean?

>>150258932
>>
Guys..

listen

..check this.

What corp?
>>
>>150260214
I'd like to experience dank ISK. Enough to maybe get capital SP and a carrier. If it's 20M SP, I'd probably be better off just buying another character, because injector prices are awful.

If not that, just WHs and/or null.
>>
>DST
Buffer or active?
>>
>>150260687
active hardeners, then whatever you prefer
>>
Falcons vs Rooks
which and why?
plus fits?

i'm looking for small gang shit
>>
>>150260925
Gay shit. Gallente recons are better anyway.
>>
>>150260925
rook for a little bit of rapid cancer, falcon for full retard pvp immunity while travelling
>>
>>150261272
i could.... but i'm already trained into Caldari
got any fits for Azaru/Lachesis though?

>>150261337
i'm not looking to do anything blopsing, so i guess Rook is more versatile in that case?
>>
>>150261448
the cloak lets you do a lot of faggoty ambushing and on grid positioning. the reason you'd get a rook is if you think your 250 dps will matter
>>
>Azaru

>skilling into caldari recons
Enjoy your armor falcons
>>
>>150261704
>>150261753
thanks senpaitachi
>>
>PL so gay that they whore on their own FAXs
>>
>>150262350
oh, i know the answer to this one

what are aoe doomsdays?
>>
>>150260925

rook for small gang

falcon is for maximum spooky faggotry
>>
M8s, How do we fix the Bellicose?
>>
>>150263105
i might try both of them out, since i've got a pair of each
got a fit?

i figure rainbow jams in mids and a 50mn mwd
1600mm plates + DCU II + hypnos in lows

for highs i guess Covops Cloak for Falcon, and just Improved Cloak for Rook?

iono what to do, my jams reach out to like 80km, and medium hybrid guns only reach out to like 30km
>>
>>150263218
increased targeting range
>>
>>150263412

don't worry about damage, your job is to just completely fuck the field and stay way out of range
>>
>>150263641
alright, so just a cloak in the highs, maybe a cyno for when shit hits the fan hard?

but other than that, the rest of it's just what i've already got right?
>>
do you hear the warp in noise if someone warps in while cloaked?
>>
>>150263797

yeah always have a cyno fit, rainbow fit always, metas cause t2's drain too much cap for negligible benefit
>>
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>>150252891
do you think this is a motherfucking game
>>
>>150264396
no
>>
>>150260687
active tanked with active hardeners

>>150263218
increased target range and higher speed/agility
>>
>>150252891
Here's the "Too Real" version
>>
>>150265927
Got target painted once, fuck don't ever trigger me again.
>>
>>150265927
rest in peace, Eddie, rest in peace
>>
>>150264638
thanks senpai o7
>>
>>150265927
>Satori solotackles ratters in Curse
>implying I go out to nullbabby space

Good bingo tho :^)
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>>150265927
>>
>>150238017
>there's no point.
its a shitty video game, how about just having fun?
>>
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So heres a pop quiz /eog/, which of these two ships has the upper hand in the case of a fleet fight?
>>
>>150267308
https://zkillboard.com/kill/52540744/
>>
>>150270660
I thought it was like in the NS area Curse, durr.

Also, that death wasn't me tackling a rattler iirc.
>>
>>150271632
IIRC that was you going to fight them alone because nobody was really on except me but I was AFKish or baiting mission runners or something and didn't get to respond until it was too late
>>
>>150270069
im gonna say the rupture
>>
>>150270069
>one fit is a counter to the other
>haha guise who wins xD
Nice bait 2/10
>>
>missiles
>>
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Eve Online masterrace
>>
>ninazu
>>
>space ships
>>
>I'm a frigate pilot
>>
10
>>
X-Large shield extenders when? 3200mm plate when?
>>
>Do wormhole exploration for 2 hours one day
>Make 160m
>Do wormhole exploration for 2 hours a few days later
>Make 1.8m
Man, when people said exploration is volatile I didn't expect it to be this bad.
>>
And yesterday you are gonna make 300M but die to a rocket bomber xD
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> COSMOS missions
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>>150283343
https://zkillboard.com/kill/53661614/
o n e s i t e
>>
>navy harbinger
>5 mids

>navy cane
>4 mids
>>
Why is plex still going up? Isn't there a sale now?
>>
>>150284703
Going up is just the natural state of plex.
>>
>>150283245
What ship are you using to tank relic/data ?
>>
>tfw only play once every 10 days or so

Should I even bother anymore
>>
>>150288394
Just create content by ganking miners, bro.
>>
>plate falcon with a cyno

what are you someone's alt?
>>
It's not like you can shield tank a falcon, and highs are just small autos or smartbomb
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>It's not like you can shield tank a falcon
>>
Incursus is a qt3.14
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>>150288597
Nigger I'm not a shitter I have better things to do than going -10 again
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>>150290265
And dem cheapo skinz
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>inner zone shipping
>>
>the "i didn't have money for intaki" skin
>>
>intaki
>the "worse than unskinned" skin
>>
>We're looking into Alliance Bookmarks
>>
https://soundcloud.com/user-897708858/trafalgar-defends-the-great-welp-of-2016

>this is how comms in this game are
so glad I insubbed
>>
>test

why do people think this is acceptable
>>
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>>150293862
because they're low test ledditors
>>
>low
>>
>>150294612
if you hate reddit why the fuck are you playing Eve?
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looking for some critique, how good is this fit? I think it's pretty good for some long range and brawling.
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>Pyfa
>>
>>150301829
A vexor will do what you want better and without the cap issues.

That said, I'm not an amarrfag, so I don't know how to improve that fit if you really insist on using omens.
>>
Does learning Gallente ship skills include diversity and sensitivity training?
>>
>>150265927
Am I supposed to post low res pictures of my socks?
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>5k armor
>149 rep power
>small cap booster
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What is the very best for clearing Serpentis Shipyards?
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>yeah if I fitted dual rep I'd have easily 30% more rep power and still have 10k ehp
>I'd also need to downgrade guns to quad light beams to fit a bigger cap booster, since the reps uses twice as much cap
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>>150303213
No, it includes beating people in the face with antimatter rounds.
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>>150303213
that was epic, epic for the win
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>>150304626
I saw Breaking Fast (4th highest amount of points) running them in an Orthrus.
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Tbh I have no idea why you fit shit that slows you down on a fit that looks like some long range snipe/kite stuff.
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>+5% speed
>or +50% hp

hmm let me think
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>>150305759
His fit has a scram, so he presumably wants to brawl with it, while being able to shoot out at a distance.

It's probably not a great idea.
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>check it out guys I made a fit to solo your small gang fit
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>>150307180
Why the dark blood?
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How come the Raven warps so fast?
Are all battleships like that? I know they're slow in the warp, but my Raven is able to actually enter warp from alignment waaay faster than most of my other large ships
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>>150307895
The raven warps as fast as the other battleships not including the Machariel
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>>150307895
you're probably just mistaken because it's cute
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>>150307895
>align

I dunno check it in eft or pyfa and compare the align times

The typhoon aligns really quick and so does the megathron. Amarr doesn't really have a fast aligning Battleship tho
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>>150308132
they do but it's shit
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>>150308252
What are you asking about then?
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>>150308326
I'm not asking about anything, I'm correcting your post about attack battleships
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>>150308453
This had nothing to do with their combat viability

It was purely about align times
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>supporting the icy jew
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>>150309805
apoc doesn't align that slow
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is this a good raven fit?
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>>150312274

what are you gonna do with anything outside of 10km
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>>150312274
no
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>>150312480
kill everything in brawl range, if theres nothing scramming me, MJD away
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>>150307289
>small gang
>local reps

>>150307826
A wee bit more resists. The less cpu usage is good too sometimes.
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>>150313040
>small gang
>being dependent on logi
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>>150313040
>A wee bit more resists. The less cpu usage is good too sometimes.
its a little expensive for something like that, 40m, I'd rather go with a regular EANM just to save money
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>>150312979

so what about things that can scram outside of brawl range
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>>150313192
Theres only a few handful of ships that do that, if its a garmur its fucking dead to drones, if its an orthrus my HML's apply great, if its an arazu or a lachesis my HML's also apply great.

I'm gonna play with this to try and fit a heavy neut but with the CPU its unlikely I'll get that
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>>150313145
>40M
Really that much? Last time they were like 20 and i had a stock from ratting spawns

>>150312274
>no prop
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>>150313282
>Really that much?
https://eve-central.com/home/quicklook.html?typeid=14070
more like 35m but thats still a lot.

>no prop
it has an MJD, so long as nothing is scramming it I'm home free
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Isn't Raven kinetic locked? Have fun against gallente t2 resists.
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>>150313398
no its not
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>MJD
>prop
Yeah, once every 3 minutes and only 100km. Fucking anything can moonwalk away from your scram range.
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>>150313542
if it doesn't scram me I'm away, I can pre-align to anything, MJD and instantly enter warp. MJD's are potent tools dude
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>>150313398
what an awful post, kys
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As expected from the master.
https://zkillboard.com/kill/55286767/
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>>150314119
>2 rigors and a flare
fucking garbage
>1600mm plate
>no other resists beyond a fucking DCU
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>>150314119
whats the cap booster for?
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>pvp
>cruise missilles
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Tell me which kind of skills are useful before doing a perception/will remap, I'm a 25m SP player
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>>150314502
>you
>anything
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is there a wayy to calculate if a skill injector will be enough for my needs ? i would get 500k and what i want to skill will take 7 days would that be enough?
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>>150314510
Any spaceship command skill, like gallente cruiser, minmatar battleship, etc.

Advanced Weapon Upgrades is a Per/Will skill.

Any gun/missile skill (not including drones) is per/will
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>>150314619
EveMon can tell you how many injectors you need with any skill plan you do
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>>150314119
I think it was just a joke shitfit
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>>150314692
I was thinking about nav/cpu/pw/capa etc ? Maybe I will use injectors for those
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>>150314725
thank you i was searching for something like that
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>>150314854
Any engineering or electronics skill that isn't Tactical Weapons Reconfiguration or Tactical Logistics Reconfiguration is an Intelligence/Memory skill.
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>flying battleships without neuts
lmbo
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>>150314985
I think you did not understand my question, I asked which core skill I must learn BEFORE a perc/will remap
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>mfw all these """pvp"experts"""
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Why is every active rep omen so shit.
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>>150315217
Any of them

All the core skills are valuable. Why not train them all

Do you consider the EWAR electronics skills as core skills? Do you consider any industry skills a core skill? I consider Science a core skill because you need it for jump drive operation and calibration
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>>150315621
I already posted the plate rep beam fit, use that

also >brawling with no web, with literal pulse lasers
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>>150315621
because you're supposed to fit for max tank because armor reppers on their own are trash

Also the omen isn't good for this, a maller is better for active rep because of resists

also pop some exile
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>afterburner

just self-destruct, what are you doing
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>>150316036
not enough fitting, also you want to maintain range control when brawling. For example a ship with blasters will get under your laser's guns while blasters still apply damage well because blasters have better tracking than lasers. However with an AB you can burn out a ways, stay out of blaster range and minimize angular velocity
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>>150315881
>he actually thinks I'll fly an amarr cruiser
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>>150315881
sorry your fit is trash
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>>150316173
ok, so how will you get into range in the first place against kiters, or burn back to gates or do anything

and you aren't staying out of blaster range in that because any non-retarded brawler (thorax) will have a web

>>150316343
no it isn't
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how does a skill injector work? i activate it and it instantly finishes all my skills that are planned?
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>>150318723
I think it gives you some unallocated sp, which you can put into any skill whenever
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>>150318723
You activate it and get 500,000-150,000 unallocated SP.
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omen
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>>150316852
>ok, so how will you get into range in the first place against kiters, or burn back to gates or do anything
Thats the crux of all brawl builds

If the Maller had the 4th midslot like the thorax did you can easily do those dual prop fits but you can't do that obv
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>dual prop

top meme
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>>150322516
If it had a 4th mid you could have a Web but amarr ships are garbage for this because not having a cap booster is shooting yourself in the foot
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>>150323000
Are there even any amarr ships that have more than 4 mids?
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which one should i use for strip mining? i mean i see the advantages of each one but i really cant decide
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>>150325819
oh nvm i kinda missed the 150% strip mining yield thing so procurer it is
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>>150301829
Omens are shit mallers are better in every way I'll show u why when I'm not on my phone
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Looks like Perunga posted bail camp is going up
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>drinking the carbonated caldari
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post frigates
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anything i should know about strip mining ? or is it the same as always just more
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>>150327502
it's the same but more autistic
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>>150327573
sounds like the perfect job for me
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>not gas mining
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>>150325819
>Covetor
3 mining lasers, max yield, minimum cargo, no tank. Use this in corp mining ops when someone is hauling all the ore.

>retriever
2 mining lasers, medium yield, enough drone space for a set of mining drones along with combat drones and a salvage drone, maximum cargo space. Use this for AFK solo mining in safe space.

>procurer
1 miner, smallest yield, lots of drone space, lots of tank, some cargo space. Use this to mine in lowsec, bait shitters and then kill them. Or use it to mine in highsec systems inhabited by suicide gankers.
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is investing in bpo's worthwhile?
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>>150329441
retriever and procurer have the same yield, and the covetor's extra yield isn't significant desu
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>>150329441
so how high is the risk for low sec mining? i assumed there would be 90% BBs and bigger in wolfpacks and horrorstories like that
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>>150330690
lowsec has lots of people and not much better money than highsec

nullsec has barely any people and better money than lowsec

nobody mines in lowsec, because they'll die all day. you can maybe avoid dying, but once someone sees you're trying to mine, they'll be there trying to kill you all the time
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>>150330690
If you're a masterbaiter, not much.

But if you're asking this, you need to lose 30 frigates in honoraburu solo roams to get the feeling for what's going on in there and when you should be warping your proc off and when you should stay and fight.

But basically, do not mine for the actual ore in lowsec, ever.
Actually, I'd say you shouldn't mine at all because there are better things for you to do in the game, but absolutely do not go into lowsec in search of ore. It is crawling with bored cyno droppers and other faggots.
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>>150330690

avoid low sec unless you want to blob plexes or gatecamp with instalock svipuls
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>ccp allowing supers to travel risk free because they instantly tether to citadels and cannot be bumped off during safe log
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>>150331607
>implying capital travel was balanced before citadels
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>>150331607
Thats any ship that bridges or cynos onto a citadel.
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>>150331607
>>150332060
>>150332145
its a pretty simple fix, disallow safe logging while tethered
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>>150332397
that doesn't fix capital travel, it's still too easy for capfags to not commit to anything and teleport around never dying
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>>150332397
They did the opposite and your ship is unlockable while logging off if you get bumped off they want you to be able to do it
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>>150332532
You're fucking retarded, more capitals have died since the pheobe changes last year than ever before.

The reason why they "teleport around never dying" because apparently you've missed out on all the supers dying is that when people move them they take every caution and every contingency. They often do it right before downtime purely because of the risk associated with moving them especially since the jump range nerf.

christ its like you don't own a capital at all and you think you know shit about them when you don't
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>>150332532

lets hear your fix
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>>150332534
It sounds like an issue they didn't anticipate, it really sounds like a simple fix of disallowing safelogging while tethered the same way you can't safelog if you're targeted or receiving any sort of remote assistance
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>>150332916
I don't think you get it, it's intentional and you can't bump them off or they get forced untargetability, it's not an accident that these ships get out.
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>>150332771
more people are retarded more like

>>150332819
>30s cyno activation
>30s jump drive spool up with big visual effect
>can't light a cyno within many kilometres of a gate, pos, station or citadel (idk 20km or something)
>remove mwd warping, web warping, etc. bullshit from caps
>remove cloaks from caps
>reduce jump range further so you don't get dropped by faggots so much, but you also have to not be a faggot yourself if you want to get things done
>remove dreads and titans killing subcaps
>remove nsa
>remove titan bonuses
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>>150333028
It does sound like a pretty big issue, maybe they'll hotpatch it in this coming patch
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>>150333094

which alliance are you in
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>>150333112
They hotpatched AGAINST it, the frozen by GM thing is their patch to prevent caps being bumped off dude CCP WANTS THIS.
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>>150333094
>I don't know what I'm talking about and heres my retarded idea that would break everything.
>yea just slowbote your carrier to station

>remove mwd warping
impossible
>web warping
you'd have to make them ewar immune again
>remove cloaks
you're just making up shit now, a titan can't get use a MWD, bridge or jump drive if its scrammed at all even by a dinky little rifter.

>remove dreads killing subcaps
they invented HAWS theres no way they're going back.
>remove NSA
k
>remove titan bonuses
titans are ships designed for fleets in mind, there bonuses promote for use in fleets
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>>150333368
>they hotpatched against this
which patch?
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>>150333354
sergaljerk

>>150333437
>impossible

they should've thought of that before adding capital prop mods. they could at least prevent people fitting undersized prop mods

>ewar immune

webs aren't ewar, but yeah it's complicated

>making shit up

yes I'm making up things to fix caps. I didn't say 1 frigate should or shouldn't be able to do those things btw

>there's no way they're going back

obviously they'll never do any of this stuff, there's too many retarded shitters around who think damage mitigation is dumb

>designed for use in fleets

that's the shittiest justification I've ever heard
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>>150333676
>they should've thought of that before adding capital prop mods
You can do it with subcap propmods as well, there are tons of instances where Aeons would equip 500mn Core X-type MWD's with 3 inertial stabs and do 10s aligns.

>webs aren't ewar
yes they are, before with EWAR immunity, you couldn't web a super or titan.

>I'm making things up to fix caps
none of these things fixes anything, you have a non-issue with a non-fix because you don't know what you're talking about. Tons of supers and titans are dying all the time in travel. Stop lying and saying they're immune because they certainly aren't at all.

>why do they have fleet bonuses
>to use in fleets, they're meant to be used in fleets
>THATS THE DUMBEST JUSTIFICATION EVER
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>>150333569
The last one to stop you bumping off citadels afaik
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>>150333873
I don't understand why they did that

the defensive mechanism for this should be that someone in the citadel shoots at the bumpers
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>>150333676
>sergaljerk

naa, its chaos

i found your whine post
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>>150333676
>webs aren't ewar
You're just pretending to be stupid right?
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>>150334037
>no internet for a week
>come back to go into damage control on my PI colonies

anything interesting happening while i was gone?
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>>150333870
>yes they are

ccp are the developers. they make these 'groupings' and can change them however they feel like. it would be nice if it was possible to get webbed but without the bullshit instawarp potential, maybe do it specially for capitals, I don't know

>none of these things fixes anything

they fix nearly everything though. I know shit dies all the time, but there's also people you can literally never kill, because they know all the broken bullshit and there's just nothing you can do. there being plenty of retarded renter idiots trying to move supers to/from null doesn't mean everything is ok

>hurr capital letters u dumb lol

if you really have a good explanation for a ship sitting in a pos giving an entire fleet +50% hp I'd like to hear it. you could be on grid and within 1km range of all the ships and that would still be an overpowered bonus
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>>150334240
>if you really have a good explanation for a ship sitting in a pos giving an entire fleet +50% hp I'd like to hear it. you could be on grid and within 1km range of all the ships and that would still be an overpowered bonus

they are already fixing this...
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>>150334146
you really are very stupid if you think some bonus saying ewar immunity and including tackle in that means we can't distinguish between the two and that they are forever stuck in the same thing, even though they are pretty clearly distinct in what they do

>>150334375
I'm not convinced they're doing anything to titan bonuses, and I'm also not convinced they'll nerf normal links hard enough. I guess also I'm not convinced it'll happen anytime soon
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>>150334240
>ccp are the developers. they make these 'groupings' and can change them however they feel like. it would be nice if it was possible to get webbed but without the bullshit instawarp potential, maybe do it specially for capitals, I don't know
You're just copping out, now to solve your flawed idea you're shifting into another change because you thought Webs weren't ewar so now you want CCP to remove webs from applicable ewar to solve a non-issue that you know nothing about.

>they fix everything
this is a non-issue with non-fixes. You seriously thought webs weren't ewar it really shows how little you know about capital mechanics if you think all this shit fixes a complete non-issue.

You somehow think that supers and titans are riskless when they obviously aren't because they're dying every single day to people that actively hunt them for a living.

>webbed without the bullshit instawarp potential
that will always be that way, Webs reduce max speed and your warp is initiated at 75% your max speed which is why webbing into warp works the way it does. You can't change this without changing all of the way initializing warp changes.

>I don't know
you're damn right you don't.

>if you had a good explanation

Oh man, this ship MUST belong in fleets because it gets a fleet bonus.
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>>150334514
>I'm not convinced they're doing anything to titan bonuses, and I'm also not convinced they'll nerf normal links hard enough. I guess also I'm not convinced it'll happen anytime soon

well i can't fault you for believing that
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>>150334514
>you really are very stupid if you think some bonus saying ewar immunity and including tackle in that means we can't distinguish between the two and that they are forever stuck in the same thing, even though they are pretty clearly distinct in what they do
No it sounds like you're so stupid that you think webs aren't ewar so you got caught and now you're back pedaling and telling CCP to change what is and what isn't an ewar device to save face.

>I'm not convinced they're doing anything about titan bonuses.
When they remove offgrid links is the exact same time that offgrid titans disappear. Titan links are far less common because you have to have a pos in the system you're fighting to get that bonus in the first place
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>>150334652
>copping out

no, you're being a retard. you want to know how the game should be, or what they should do to fix things. I tell you how it should be, and the responses are mostly shit like "well don't you see it would be pretty hard for them to do that, you're dumb". webs are not ewar. them being included as ewar as part of some supercapital bonus doesn't mean they are

>they die so everything is fine

people always fail to use pvp immunities. people fuck up or are stupid, it happens all the time. if eve were working as intended, instead of 0.1% of supers travelling unescorted dying, it would be like 90% instead

>Oh man, this ship MUST belong in fleets because it gets a fleet bonus.

this sentence has some words in it, but it completely fails to answer me. I guess only a nofights capital faggot could think +50% armour to a fleet is something that could ever be balanced
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>>150334816
I'm not 'back pedaling'. webs need different treatment to tracking disruptors. they let things that are supposed to take like 40 seconds to align warp in like 5 seconds instead. they do it to smaller ships too but the effects of this are less pronounced because nobody cares

>save face

it's more like I'm having to explain it to you in great detail because you're really dumb

>offgrid titans

I've never heard ccp say anything about titan bonuses at all when they're talking about fixing links. and I know they're uncommon, but since I'm not shit I realise that doesn't mean they're not broken
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>>150335321
>no, you're being a retard.
says the guy who thought webs weren't ewar
>fix things
there are no issues with capital travel currently.
>I tell you how it should be
yea because you said so right? good thing you're not a developer.
>webs are now ewar
holy shit he said it again
>them being included as ewar as part of some supercapital bonus doesn't mean they are
webs are ewar the same way TP's, Scrams and disruptors, HIC points, TD's, SD's and ECM are all ewar. You can keep saying this shit over and over doesn't make it true.

>people always fail to use pvp immunities
there is no PVP immunity here. They're moving their supers by logging on all their alts and putting them in surrounding systems to watch locals and shit. They're moving them at downtime because thats their literal LAST guarantee if you can even call it that.

>if eve was working as intended
it is currently, t. developers and their balance changes.
>it would be 90%
source: your ass making shit up again

>fails to answer me
because you have a non-issue because you're deaf to anyone that disagrees with you
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>>150335518
>I'm not 'back pedaling'
You literally backpedaled after you said "webs are not ewar" and then said that CCP should separate between two of the same thing.

>webs need different treatment
its not the webs stupid ass, thats how warp initiation works.

>I've never heard ccp say anything about titan bonuses at all when they're talking about fixing links.
the titan bonus IS a link you fucking retard, have you never been in fleet with a titan? The titan has to be in fleet and in the same system, all fleet links work this way.

You have no fucking clue about anything you're talking about
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>>150335741
>there are no issues with capital travel currently

i wouldn't go that far
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>>150335321
>webs are not ewar. them being included as ewar as part of some supercapital bonus doesn't mean they are

>You cannot activate this module because the target is immune to EWAR

This is the EXACT sentence it used to say when you attempted to activate any EWAR on a titan or super including webs.

The only EWAR module that works on titans and supers at the time was neuts and HIC points
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>>150335741
>yea because you said so right

no, because it's a conversation we're having

if you don't see an important difference between webs and target painters, especially since we've just been talking about how cancerous instawarping capitals are, you must have severe brain problems

I'd give your disagreements more time if they weren't just a pile of shit with no substance

>>150335959
>its not the webs stupid ass, thats how warp initiation works.

oh so it's a thing that happens because of webs right, but I'm such a dumbass for bringing up webs when talking about capital instawarping man what an idiot

>the titan bonus IS a link you fucking retard

no it's not you fucking retard it's a ship bonus. 'links', what we call links, are modules fitted to ships. the titan bonuses are like 10% scan res from the leadership skill
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>>150336162
>it used to say

nice, so your retarded justification is out of date as well

>neuts
>ewar
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>>150336176
>no, because it's a conversation we're having
You're just spewing shit you think should be purely because you said so because you don't know what you're talking about at all.

>if you don't see an important difference between webs and target painters
There isn't a difference, they're both ewar.

Next you'll try and differentiate between Scrams and something else because scrams aren't ewar right?

>piece of shit with no substance
says the guy whose making up shit on the spot.

>how cancerous instawarping capitals are
you can keep saying this all you want doesn't mean its riskless at all. You're 100% wrong on all these fronts because you don't know how the game mechanics work to the point you didn't even know webs were ewar
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>>150336319
neuts are a form of ewar, there are multiple ewar ships that get bonuses to neuts as that form of ewar

titans were susceptible to only 3 types of ewar, HIC points, neuts and ECM projectors

>its out of date
thats not out of date, there are still tons of shit you can't put ewar on including POS's and citadels are all ewar immune.
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>>150336394
>You're just spewing shit you think should be purely because you said so because you don't know what you're talking about at all.

yes, I formed an opinion with some reasons and shit, and I posted it. that's what we do here. and your objection is that my opinion isn't officially approved or I'm not ccp or something. you know your post? you just made it all up!

I know how all the game mechanics work shitter. you thinking webs and neuts are ewar or whatever and getting in a big shit about whether they are considered ewar or not really has no relevance to anything, and just makes me think you're retarded
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>>150336319
>guys I swear its not ewar

then how come when a super has 80% resistance to EWAR and I apply a webifier to the super the webifier's effect gets reduced 80%?
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>>150336636
>yes, I formed an opinion with some reasons and shit,
Your opinion is uninformed, your reasons are false and your shit is shit.

>you just made it all up
None of the things I've said are made up, everything I said is true based on the current and past play of the game.

>I know how the mechanics work
except ewar and capital jump drives right?

>webs aren't ewar
oh man he said it again, yea you totally know how the game mechanics work.
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>>150336669
it doesn't, read the description. it says 'stasis effect resistance', and has a separate line for 'remote sensor dampener resistance'

not that the descriptions of some shit really determines how things should be
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>>150336850
if you weren't a shit, you would directly address the points I'm making, rather than telling me you think webs are ewar over and over again and that I'm uninformed or whatever. if you can't come up with anything substantial it tells me you have nothing and have to resort to bullshitting

you can start by telling me how instawarping isn't bullshit
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>>150336869
>Aeon Role Bonuses:
>50% bonus to Remote Sensor Dampener resistance
>50% bonus to Stasis effect resistance
>50% increase to Remote Electronic Assistance impedance

These are all EWAR.

>Avatar Role Bonuses:
>80% bonus to Sensor Dampener resistance
>80% bonus to Weapon Disruption resistance
>80% bonus to Stasis effect resistance
>80% increase to Remote Electronic Assistance impedance

These are all ewar too.

Notice how the super doesn't have Tracking Disruption resistance? I guess TD's aren't ewar then

Notice also how Target Painters aren't on either of those targets' list for EWAR resistance, are Target painters not EWAR either?
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>>150337172
lmao. supercarriers do not have a weapon disruptor resistance because they don't use weapons. titans have a line for weapon disruptor resistance, because they do use weapons
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>>150337073
>if you weren't a shit, you would directly address the points I'm making,
I have and did, you're trolling now, this is garbage bait because you're making up shit and saying webs aren't ewar which is 100% false.


>You can start by telling me how instawarping isn't bullshit
"bullshit" is your opinion, its a mechanic of the game that revolves around how warp mechanics work and how webs work and how prop mods work

All you have to do to get into warp is get to 75% your max speed in the general direction you're warping to

thats it, theres nothing else to it. Webs and Props sometimes make this faster because all you need is 75% your maximum speed, so a web reduces your max speed and flings you into warp because thats all you needed at the time. Props work the same way, a prop cycle gives you enough speed to jump into warp when your max speed drops back to normal and your % speed is more than enough to get into warp.

None of your suggestions actually articulate how or why you're going to somehow segregate from subcaps and capitals because they both work the EXACT same way

Your arbitrary, made up and super imposed "solution" to this "problem" you don't like is to ban capitals from using prop mods apparently.
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>>150337290
>answers one part but can't explain the latter

I guess target painters aren't ewar either, nothing gets a resistance to it

>can't activate webs or TP's on pos's and citadel NOT because they're EWAR immune but just because some magic came into play and made it that way

Did you know you can Jam a pos with ECM? A tower actually has sensor strength you can jam to disable the weapons. The guns themselves also have sensor strengths that can be disabled via ECM, is ECM not EWAR?
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>>150337578
wow thanks for explaining how instawarping works thanks anon holy shit why am I still here with these retards

I don't really know for sure how to fix instawarping. I'm not a team of devs/designers who have given thought to this and tested various solutions. it's difficult. they tried to fix the mwd cloak warp many years ago and failed, and they just gave up, knowing that it's not an easy thing to sort out. I just don't have any elegant solutions to this. you know how they made it so you will always warp within x minutes of initiating warp, to fix faggots bumping freighters? maybe they could do something like that but the other way around as an ugly easy way out, but there's a load of reasons why that would be dumb too

>why

do I really have to explain why a capital ship instawarping is broken? these are supposed to be the biggest, slowest and most tacklable ships in the game. they have an align time, it's supposed to take that long to get into warp
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>>150338351
>wow thanks for explaining how instawarping works thanks anon holy shit why am I still here with these retards
You obviously didn't understand how it worked

All you said is that the web effect should be removed as if thats what was causing it then said that capitals should be banned from using prop mods.

>I don't really know for sure how to fix instawarping.
You don't, theres nothing wrong with it.

>To fix faggots bumping freighters
thats a different problem all together. Freighters bump so easily because of the third law of physics that describes inertia as a whole. An object in motion tends to stay in motion.

To fix freighters entirely you have to reduce their mass by gobs just to prevent them from being bumped but that'll never happen.

>do I really have to explain why a capital ship instawarping is broken?
You said you listed your reasons but you obviously didn't for this.

> these are supposed to be the biggest, slowest and most tacklable ships in the game. they have an align time, it's supposed to take that long to get into warp
So are battleships but battleships do the exact same thing, jump freighters can do the same thing as well

This has been a mechanic for over 10 years. Every capital could do this to an extent (titans couldn't because of mass) with 500mn MWD's It has never disrupted gameplay at all and CCP reaffirms this with capital prop mods
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>>150337731
what are you getting at? ccp didn't include a target painter resistance on your nyx, so I am wrong?

>Did you know you can Jam a pos with ECM? A tower actually has sensor strength you can jam to disable the weapons. The guns themselves also have sensor strengths that can be disabled via ECM, is ECM not EWAR?

I didn't know that, I try not to get involved with pos because they're probably even more gay than capital ships. this shit though, it's like arguing about music genres, it just doesn't matter at all. do you think when ccp are fixing and rebalancing things, they have big arguments about which bonus says what and whether x is considered y even though it makes no difference to anything.
I have decided that ewar means ecm, tracking/missile disruptors, target painters and damps.
webs scrams disruptors and hics are tackle. if you disagree you're gay. still literally no bearing on anything we're talking about though
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>>150338779
I brought up freighters just to mention the anti-bump mechanic thing ccp introduced. it's was a pretty annoying problem to solve, and they had to use a fairly ugly solution

>So are battleships

it's true, but I draw a bit of a line between the two because capital ships have all the downsides of being a large ship - they're easy to tackle and just get skullfucked by everything, while capital ships seem to suffer none of these downsides - they're slippery little faggots who zip about faster than anything and are really difficult to pin down. fixing this kind of horseshit raises the bar for how skilled you have to be to use them, and how much of a commitment you have to make to bring them on field or move them

>never disrupted gameplay

I think it has. all over eve all the time are capitals doing stuff that requires no balls and not dying
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>>150339423
>I think it has. all over eve all the time are capitals doing stuff that requires no balls and not dying
This simply isn't true, tons of supers are dying all the time because of the risks associated with them.
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>>150340325
it's like 2 per day or something it's fuck all, and I'm pretty sure all just idiots not knowing how avoid all risks

I think a lot of supercap owners think they should be getting more kills and use from their supers, not realising the massive amount of stuff people decide not to do because of the constant threat of being counterdropped by supers.
I feel ccp's idea of adding more powerful stuff for supers to do isn't really a good way to get them used more, since we've still got right click instant teleporting shit appearing everywhere, making people not want to do anything with big stuff unless they're the biggest fish
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>>150341054
>it's like 2 per day or something it's fuck all
https://zkillboard.com/group/659/losses/
You have to think about how many simply aren't logging in. The actual active population of supers isn't that amazingly great either so 2 per day is pretty signficant for when they're either moving or dying in combat.
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>>150304626
>>150305489
Are there any kind of ship restrictions for these scope sites? I know one of the challenges requires killing a battleship in a frigate...
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>>150341341
either way, I think less powerful jump drives and instant bullshit is how you get more better capital usage. more actual fights, rather than you jump, insta align out and blob on some people who have no chance at all to do anything to you, or the other situation is you think you're doing that, and then 100 people jump in and facefuck you because it was all a big ebin le trap. just shitty gameplay
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>>150341667
>either way, I think less powerful jump drives
they already had their jump drives by 80%, they already introduced jump fatigue and jump reactivation timers. They already reduced super's and titan's raw hitpoints by another 30%

>instalign out
they most likely don't do this, they cap up because its faster and jump out. This is usually after the battle is over so they've won and theres nothing else to really do but cap up and jump.
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>>150341959
is that since capital cap boosters? I haven't kept up with what people do

>hp

yeah they reduced the hp, but they added a lot of new things they can do, including aoe target painter doomsday :^)

less retarded huge buffers and circlejerks is good I guess, but I want to see less evasive slippery faggotry. these are big ships, commit them to a big fight and get properly stuck in. but nobody will want to play like that as long as a million supers can just appear from 20 jumps away as soon as you do anything
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>>150342254
>is that since capital cap boosters? I haven't kept up with what people do
the capital cap boosters are trash and so are the batteries, its faster to use imperial navy cap rechargers

the capital boosters are shit because the 3200 charges are stupidly huge even the navy ones and its not worth filling the cargo full of them. Batteries are only good for resisting neuts and even then you don't need to ruin your fitting and shit with a capital battery because a Large battery is more than enough.
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>>150342401
so are cap 3200s mostly for battleships :^)

if so great job ccp
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>>150342516
3200's aren't even good for battleships because you can fit like 4 of them and it leaves a huge gap of your cargo open for pretty much nothing but 800's

Its still better to use 800's because they're more efficient than carrying 3200's While 3200's give you more cap/s in the long run, you end up going through 3200's faster than 800's due to efficiency
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>your tachyon abaddon runs out of cap boosters in 60 seconds
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>>150342516
A 3200 will get a blops back up to jump cap and you can preload the 3200 but keep 800s in the cargo bay. The guy sperging out about how they're shit for bs doesn't seem to know that you can load a 3200 before you jump and swap once you land and cap up. I'd be surprised if he'd ever actually used them.
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>>150342836
You can carry 5 of the navy 3200's assuming you don't wanna carry any ammo

>>150342909
thats a good point I didn't think of that, but my panther doesn't use a cap booster because I barely use any cap so its not an issue
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>ammo

8x t1 multifrequency, 8x t1 standard
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Kevin.
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>abbadon
Literally Navy Apoc better in every single sway
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>Navy Apoc
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>apoc faggot issue
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>>150343210

except price
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>>150343394
and resists and damage
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>Amarr
>Battleships

The only battleship I have is a Hyperion and that's the only t1 battleshit worth it tbqhwy
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>>150329628
Do you have the 2 years to invest to research them?
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how does gas cloud harvesting work? i think i never saw one (same goes for ice ??)
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>>150343612
mfw people keep falling for the megathron meme, when hyperion is obviously superior
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>>150343612
Amarr battleships fall behind because of lack of mids
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>>150343797

fuck no
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>>150343962
fitting troubles more like

if you need all those mids you're probably doing some kind of retarded solo shit
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>>150343921
I got a qt killmark on mine from some scrub in a Mael

>mfw asklepians
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>>150344062
you need mids for multiple reasons. many 5 mid battleships do cap booster, MJD, grappler, webifier, scrambler

meanwhile the amarr ones can't do that at all
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>>150344472
>grappler, webifier

retarded solo shit confirmed

4 is plenty
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>tfw you will never return to the era of pulse armageddon supremacy
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>>150344579
>4 is plenty
>I have to choose between my props, I can't have both MJD and MWD
>can't have any sort of point because its worthless to stop dinky frigs and shit
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>>150345007
you can have both mjd mwd. 2 is less than 4. you can have a point if you like, but it's not a good use of slots in a gang. you're slow and cannot lock quickly, you should be fitting ideally just stuff other ships can't be doing better
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>>150345151
>I'm scrammed
>couldn't bring any grapplers to slow them down because they just warp away because I have no point or scram
>can't get away because MJD, MWD, every other ship that did this combo would easily be able to shake frigs
>the apoc or abaddon? nope
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>>150345229
>I'll just fit all solo meme modules and completely disregard the strengths of my ship and be utterly useless for everything but killing close range frigates

you should be in a small gang at least, and you should be fitting to kill shit well and not die. if you want to be a pro tackler you shouldn't be flying a battleship
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>>150345386
>meme
can't come up with any real reasons so you default to non-arguments
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>>150345386
>kite
>abaddon/apoc
congrats you're "kiting" in two of the slowest battleships next to the rokh

a real battleship like the hyperion and dominix can do everything the apoc can and better

it can do all the super hard tackle, high damage, not nearly be as cap dependant as the fucking apoc or abaddon and actually stay on field
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>>150345471
this is you being retarded, not me. you fly with other people. you're flying a gang ship, so if you don't want to rely on other people for anything at all you're going to just be really shit at everything and have a load of redundant modules fitted

nice non-post

>>150345587
>kite

did I use this word

nice to see you know literally nothing about apocs btw
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>>150345824
If you're not brawling you're kiting. Your apoc is worthless compared to a hyperion.

A hyperion is more of a gang ship than an apoc ever will be
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>>150346002
>not brawling

did I say this
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>>150346087
What are you doing then? Are you staying at range and applying DPS or are you in the middle of the fight duking it out

because there is no one or another
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>>150346231
it doesn't matter what I'm doing. my post applies whatever range I'm planning to be at
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>>150346318
So you're merely pretending to be retarded, you might as well not even be in fleet
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>>150346356
and you're merely pretending to be able to read

a battleship with proper support in a small gang should not waste its slots on stuff other ships can do better or as well, like ewar, and non-grapple webs
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>>150346526
>hiding behind "proper support"
you're not taking any role, you've purposely avoided any sort of role with this "well I have proper support" umbrella term you wanna enforce. Your apoc still can't do anything its slow as shit and can't participate in "small gang shit" you might as well fly a HAC at that price and lack of utility
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>>150346526

ignore him, he's probably a lowsec blobber
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hope everyone has JDC V

>>150346792
>>150346792
>>150346792
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>>150346634
the role is fucking killing shit with battleship weapons and being effective at it

I literally never said apocs are good btw

but sure, fly your 400 dps drone hugs bs with 3 webs and be totally useless. it's you who may as well fly a hac, if you can't use a ship's strengths
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