/r6g/ - Rainbow Six General

first for buff castle, tachanka and montagno

>Kapkan, Doc, and IQ will never ever be buffed because they're not meme operators like Castle, Tachanka, and Montagne.

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>>149944685
but kapkan already received significant buffs

>>149944717

Valk and Frost are besties?

>>149944685
How would you buff IQ again when she already got one?

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>>149944717

Valkyrie and Frost are Cute!

I want to see Caveira interrogating IQ

Alright boyos, post those desktop set ups while operating.

>>149944717
>>149945245

I am going to imagine Caveria is that weird girl all the other defenders never talk to as she cleans her pistol

>>149945464
Nah, the weird one is Twitch who just sits alone and when anyone starts talking to her she just starts rambling about her drone

>>149945795
>implying Blitz and Bandit don't take her out clubbing since she can appreciate the complexity of the speaker and lights setup

Anyone know how rank works?

>>149944097

>>149946135
>implying any French girl is going to trust some Germans

>>149946162
If it's tied at 3-3 it goes into overtime for two rounds, ie first to five. It'll end 5-3 or 5-4. Otherwise it's first to 4.

>>149944921
give her ash's guns and give iq's guns to ash

>>149946713
>implying Twitch has the social skills not to

>how to fix Smoke
Put the ACOG on his FNG instead of the Mac11, and take away his nitro. Increase the damage on the first tick and the first tick only for his smoke bombs.

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>>149945795

>Jager & Mute have a bromance for their love of technology
>Jager being an engineer is highly intrigued by Twitch's drone build
>Mute constantly jams her drones when she's working on them
>Thatcher constantly whispering "Do it Gordon. Do it now" into Mute's ear when the drone is jammed.

>>149944376
PLEASE
BUFF
TACHANKA

>plz

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>>149945335
This has been my desktop wallpaper for ages now

>Smoke and Pulse sit around all day on drugs from Bandit
>Pulse tries working out some kind of wonder drug of acid and lean hoping it will let him see though walls
>Smoke just does it because he likes it

>adds the memey-ist operators to date
>A fucking crossbow
>A crossbow would suck in the favella
>Suppressed interrogation pistol for dank interrogation of criminals :^)
>Eye patch
>Berets
>Skull face paint

What in the fuck is this shit

>>149947784
BOPE

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>When your squad is getting killed, but you're just Doc

>>149947496
it's mine now

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>>149947784
it's hilarious is what it is, i love it

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>when the entire team behind you is dying and you're just Montagne

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>>149947496
ftfy

What new reveal do you think they will add tomorrow? I hope it is another operator update.

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Anyone else having problems with the game failing to bring new players in between rounds on casual?

I'm on Xbone so I'm wondering if it's server strain from the new players or something?

>tfw all my buddies already have a 5 man squad plowing through new players in casual without me.

>>149948402
>ubi said they altered the lighting in some patch
how? it's still just as hard to see as it ever was. it's like the operators all have fucking migraine vision.

>Castle runs around the corner after you magdumped Valk for the kill
>he sprays a whole magazine at you while you finish reloading, because lol shit game where switching weapons won't interrupt reloads
>gun him down having taking 83 damage from his spray

Nice game siegebabs

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HOW TO BALANCE RB6:Siege

Nerf List
>Thermite
Remove regular breaching charges (makes him rely on team to get anywhere, less solo bullshit) - Add additional operators who can breach reinforced walls in some way, albeit a DIFFERENT way

>Ash
Remove ACOG from her guns

>Rook
Almost impossible to "balance" without entirely destroying him. His ability is entirely passive and great, but his overall performance (MP5 and P90) sucks ass. INDIRECT NERF by making other operators more desirable and obtaining balance

>Pulse
Revert last patches changes - Return to old radar blip style scanner, but increase the speed of which those blips occur (not real time, but faster updates)

>Nitro Cells
Nitro cells have an arming period - can not be immediately detonated. 2 seconds must pass before Nitro is armed. Will return nitro cell to what it was intended to be - a trap device (Since they would have just made it a fucking grenade that doesn't stick to walls if they wanted it to be a grenade). Indirectly buffs IQ and Twitch by a HUGE margin, Shield Users by an amazing margin, Thatcher by a small margin. -- Lower volume / distance of audible beep.

>Skillbeard
Reduce damage shield can absorb to 5-6 shots. Shield absorbing damage results in a recoil style "jump" of crosshair (The shield is mounted ON the gun, remember. Lot of kinetic energy in a bullet.)

>Valk
Remove Nitrocell. Keep rest as is.

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>>149949757
>MP5
>sucks ass

>>149949757
>Ash
What? No. Attackers should get ACOGs on all Rifles/LMGs they have, Ash doesn't need a nerf at all.

>>149949757

BUFF LIST

>IQ, Twitch, Thatcher
Rebalancing Nitro Cells gives these users a huge benefit of being fucking useful and de-trapping the facility.

>Blitz
2 speed 2 armor Operator. GOTTA GO FAST. Increase flash range by a small margin.

>Montagne
Regardless of whether or not nitrocells are rebalanced to include a timer - Montagne can absorb explosive damage from the front while shield is extended. Nitro detonates at a range that would normally be a kill, but does 60 damage instead.

>Doc
Can top off team mates health - Cap it at 75, same as a DBNO revive

>Castle
Double reinforcements to 6 from 3. Leave them exactly as is. he can plant them fucking everywhere.

>Tachanka
Give Blackbeard style shield on turret that absorbs all the damage.

>Attacker Recruit
Give recruits TWO frag grenades, as this is essentially their "special ability." They are basic bitch operators who have the skill to join Team Rainbow - they just aren't specialized.

>Defender Recruit
Give Defender Recruit 2 wall reinforcements - it makes ZERO sense why he has 1 wall reinforcement right now.

>All Recruits
Allow customization of weapons as an unlockable once you have all the core characters.

>>149949757
>complaining about thermite
>complaining about ash
>complaining about Rook
>complaining about valk when you already have an entire segment on nitro cells

What are you on about?

>>149950072
>Blitz
Shields should not go fast period, theres a reason FBI recruit is 3 armor
>Castle
Still a shit operator that will now do even more harm to their own team mates by blocking off every fucking where and locking everyone in
>Recruits
Recruits don't need to be fucking balanced what? No body plays them unless they went AFK on the op screen.

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>>149949967
>confirmed for never having used 416C, MP7, MP5K, 9x19VSN, 9mm C1, or MPX

>>149950023
Ash's pick rate is 15%. The community is saying she is more desireable than other operators by a wide margin - that is to say, she is better than other operators. This isn't new either, she has always been in the top of the charts. She is in need of a downward balancing. to bring her in line. Removing her ACOG would go a ways to doing that.

>>149950072
>buff list
>Thatcher
Confirmed retard. Holy shit. You probably weren't even here before they nerfed his EMP range.

>buffing recruits
For what possible reason.

>>149949757
>ash
becomes shit
>thermite
can't remember the last time i used normal breaches on thermite
>nitro cells
i hope you enjoy having no way to deal with shields consistently
>blackbeard
becomes useless, both his guns are shit, and become unusable once receiving fire

>>149950287
doing that nerf to ash would make her suck as much ass as mute does. maybe even more

>>149950384
I always pick breaching charges for Thermite. I need to get to places, niqqah

>>149950287
Are you fucking serious m8, the MP5 has low recoil and stupid high fire plus ACOG. The P90 might need a small buff, but get the fuck out of my face if you don't think the MP5 is great.

>>149950287
No she doesn't are you retarded? God I fucking hate how people think the pick rates are what defines OP or not. Ash has a good ability and good guns, she is not OP. Don't bring down operators to be shit with the others, buff lower performing operators to give more choice.

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>>149950287
Stop. The reason ash is good is because of her tiny hitbox and Speed 3. I know for certain that she's highly picked on consoles because she's almost impossible to hit, but that's a console thing that doesn't extend fully to PC.

Otherwise, it's not the ACOG that makes here good, are you dumb? She's fast, has good guns, and an ability that makes her even faster. The only way to "fix" ash is to make her Speed 2 Armor 2, but then she's just Buck.

>taking away the ACOG
I can't get over how dumb this is.
Also, your stats are wrong.

>>149950268
>Blitz
How else could he be good. His entire Operator video is him gotta-go-fasting dudes with his shield / flash combo. It'd make him a viable choice.

>Castle
I've never had problems with Castle in the way you people bitch about. I just tear it down if it's in the way??

>Recruits
>having the default operator that sometimes the game picks for you when you join into a match that is loading should not automatically handicap your team with no special abilities and less supplies than standard operators
k.

>>149950296
>Thatcher
Thatchers pick rate is 8% of every platform. It's decent, not ideal. By giving him more of a purpose than just opening a path for thermite it'd probably bump him a few points

>>149950384
>Ash
I'm totally sure allowing her to use only red dots on her tiny CQB guns would drop her pick rate by 10 points. Exactly. It's not like people never use that attachment on her gun anyways, right?
>thermite
many people do it, and many people do it and use it to fuck off and solo. It would make Thermite less desireable as a solo pick and enforce him to stick with his team. The only way to drop his pick rate is to have more options than thermite.

>nitrocells
>not just planting nitro cells in likely avenues of attack

>blackbeard
He should not be immortal. He should be able to survive if he gets out skilled, but not just be able to ignore skill to a wide degree.

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>>149949020
I made this just for you.

>>149950523
MP5K sucks for me. I always use mutes pump action. It's too weak.

>>149950612
>the community picks an operator in a vast majority of matches
>THIS DOES NOT MEAN THAT OPERATOR IS GOOD OR THAT PEOPLE THINK IT IS GOOD!!!!!!

You are a fucking idiot. Pick rates are one of the most reliable stats, and the only one we have access to. If people are CONSISTENTLY PICKING A CHARACTER OVER ANOTHER CHARACTER, it means they prefer that character for some reason.

>>149950620
>"your stats are wrong"
>posts stats showing ash with 15% pick rate

are you on meds my dude?

>>149950692
>Thatchers pick rate is 8% of every platform
See >>149950612

Your buff/nerf philosophy makes zero sense. You have these ideas about how an operator "should be played", and if they're not being played that way, you want them to be nerfed so they play how you want.

>>149950692
>>149950887
Here's how to make blitz good.
>extend flash range by a bit
>FIX HEADHITBOX
Lovely anecdote about Castle, just because you have never run into an issue when the majority of the general and the main playerbase hate castle because he ends up locking people in/out of the objective. Recruits literally do not matter.
Ash is a fucking attacker, her guns are not "tiny CQB" they are fucking rifles and thus should get ACOG. Yes people pick Ash, because SHE IS GOOD. She is not OP, she offers a useful ability and her guns aren't trash. There is no reason to nerf her when you instead should buff the lower picked attackers.

>>149950887
You're complaining about Rook being picked too much when he's at 11%, because you think his pick rate is still 17%.

If your that out of touch with the game, I don't know what to tell you.

Thank God none of you idiots will ever work in the gaming industry.

oh wait, you will, and that's why it's shit

>>149951219
>im-fucking-plying I will ever have a full-time job
lmao

>>149950620
>>149950072
Why even buff Castle, he has an 8% pick rate, if you think the stats are so reliable then the only defender that needs a buff is Tachanka.

>>149950982
The perfect, "balanced" pick rate is 10% with the stats we have available. He is below that. Since his nerf he HAS been below that. Thatchers role is, basically,

Thatcher was nerfed because his EMP grenades could clear out the entire defender room. It was silly because any batteries, anti-grenade systems, mute devices - all that shit would just go with the toss of two grenades. He was too powerful. That is why they nerfed him.

But guess what, his pick rate reflected his power.

>>149951110
>PC pick rates don't exist

I pulled that screen shot 2 minutes before I posted the post. Rook has a lower pick rate because his ACOG memes don't do well on the controller, whereas with KB/M his MP5 is a rape weapon.

Do these pick rate numbers even account for the DLC characters? If not, how can we truly rely on them if we don't have all the numbers?

Having issues on PC, whenever I'm using a camera the screen flickers rapidly, it hurts my eyes and keeps me from ever using them.

Anyone know what causes it or how to fix?

>>149951353
they do not.

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>>149949020
t. newblood

>>149951353
It's probably why they get rid of the link to the pick rates on the official site. It might or might not be real time rates.

>>149951390
Then why the fuck do we even talk about these numbers if they don't even have the full population? As someone who does data analysis, not getting all the numbers and facts straight irks me. If it was me, I would throw all these numbers out the window cause they mean diddly shit in the overall picture.

How to fix Rook; remove him. No operator letalone the most valuable should have a skill as braindead as "put armor on the floor." Same applies to Doc except the valuable part.

>>149950790
the mp5k is definitely not as good as the mp5

>>149950692
>blackbeard
if his shield lasted for six shots tops, and he gets jump when you get shot at, between his shitty guns, and the crosshair jump his accuracy would be non-existent the second he takes fire. meaning bb would take fire on his shield, loose accuracy and a split second later get killed when the 7th shot comes in. that mostly sounds like he's at a disadvantage when he is in a gunfight.

>>149950887
The thing about pick rates that you're ignoring is that really, all they mean are how often an operator is useful. For certain operators like Castle, I would never take him on Plane or Yacht simply because there's no where to place his barricades that they won't just get taken out by a breaching charge in the normal process of the game. It's not Kanal or Consulate where certain rooms or windows can be blocked off and the barricade will actually stop access to them.

An operator like Ashe is highly picked because there's no map that she's bad on. She's just an operator with good guns and an ability that's basically an improved frag grenade. It's the same as how Sledge is consistently at or above 10% pick rate because he's essentially just a Recruit with a few alterations that make him into a better rifleman.
It's not a matter of OP or not, all pick rate reflects is how often an operator is considered useful.

If we could track stats like overall operator kill-death ratios, then perhaps we could claim operators are OP if they both have a high kdr and a high pick rate. Lacking that, all we can say is that high pick rate ops are useful more often than not, which is a function of maps more than anything else.

>nerfing ops because there's no map that they're bad on
Silly.
If you wanted to see Castle pick rates spike, you could just allow him to cover sections of the Plane windows with his barricades. Even though Glaz can still see through them, blocking visibility would be improvement enough that people would have a reason to take him on Plane, where he's otherwise almost useless.

>>149951526
Then how do people pull these numbers anyway?

>>149951284
Depends on where you want the spread to be. The perfect is an even spread of 10% across the board, but if you want a healthy spread, 8-12% would be ideal. The largest complaint with Castle is, yes, that his barricades are far too easily defeated. Castle is one of the ones who should float at 10%, whereas characters like Glaz make sense to float lower than that given he is a niche character.

You get complaints with him potentially locking the objective room, but that is all part of the game.

>>149951353
The numbers do not account for DLC characters. You might get some stats inflated because of that (if thermite is being picked still in every match, but Buck + BB is also being picked every match, Thermites number will be represented higher than they realistically would be), but they are still somewhat reliable because out of all the "old" operators, these are the rates of them still being picked.

In the end it's still showing some characters being picked more than others. Whether or not it's entirely accurate or as representational could, really, be up for debate.

>>149951639
They saved the link.
http://rainbow6.ubi.com/siege/en-us/community/stats.aspx

>>149951635
>Even though Glaz can still see through
shoot through them

I hope my first point about maps where Castle has nothing useful to barricade doesn't need an explanation by the way. I hope the thread has talked enough about that subject.

>>149951703
>an even spread of 10%
You'd want an even spread of 8%. So castle is perfectly fine.

>>149951635
>nerfing an OP because they are consistently good and some OP's are only occasionally good is bad.

Please read what you are talking about. That is the point. There are going to be some niche operators who are less desirable in certain situations, which is why you won't have an even spread.

But having a character that, yes, is almost never a bad choice, when you have characters that can be an obvious bad choice half the time - that "good, never bad" operator would be the definition of "over powered." Not game breaking, not 360 no scope hax.exe tier rape fest, but they are overpowered compared to the rest of the roster.

>>149951594
Instead as it is right now he can just sit in a window and rape everyone?

>>149951575
I would also be okay with this. I don't feel like the game would even change if he was not there - or it would change for the better as you now have a 5th character in most matches who has an ability.

>>149951537
Because even if the data isn't perfect, it is still showing if characters with the old roster are being picked enough or not. Even in the new meta, if a character was "balanced" they'd still be close to 10%. You might get some numbers inflated because of some characters being more desireable in a meta...

No amount of "oh the data is worthless because [x]" will ever explain away 1% pick rates on Tachanka. He's just absolutely shit and no matter how unreliable the data COULD be, it's showing him as trash since Day 1.

>>149951991
>10 options
>100 divided by 10 = 8

?????????

>>149952094
I'm confused, if I add up all the numbers I should get 100%, but I get 91% for attackers and 93% for defenders. Am I missing something or are the numbers just fucked?

>>149952094
>but they are overpowered compared to the rest of the roster.
But that's not what overpowered means though. Ops like Ashe and Sledge and even Fuze are just versatile. Why are we punishing for this?

>>149952094
Smoke is never a bad choice, you get a nitro cell, an extremely powerful gun, and three gas grenades you can use to deter enemies and use for cover. Mute is never a bad choice, his gadget directly counters thermite, Fuze, drones, and breaching charges. Bandit is never a bad choice, he can counter drones as well and termite charges and he can use his gadget to damage the enemy through shock wore and shields.

>>149952181
Oh yes, I forgot the chart does not cover the DLC operators.

>>149952372
Because you want each character to be equally desirable. If one character is less desirable in some situations, they would be balanced out by being MORE desirable in others.

But if in that "more desirable" situation people are saying "ah fuck it just take Ash she's almost as good" - yeah, she is over represented and too good at what she does. Overpowered is the right term, but not in the "OMFG NERF NERF NERF" we expect. She needs a downward tweak to drop her a few points.

>>149952250
I'm going to assume the %'s are just rounded down. They've always looked fucky to some degree.

Because there is 0 way that Frost and Valk, combined, account for only 7%

>>149952582
Not every character has to be equally desirable or should.

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>>149951991
fuck off, people pick castle because he has the m1014 and sometimes, on occasion, his barricades are slightly more useful than normal barricades. statistics are just supplemental knowledge, and anyone smart knows you don't make decisions based on pure numbers alone.

>>149952838
that is called balance. You want a balanced game.

>>149952582
>Because you want each character to be equally desirable.
I'm going to disagree here because we do have operators who are genuinely designed to be versatile. Sledge is the simplest example of this, since his ability is really just a 25-use breaching charge and he's just a rifleman otherwise.Similarly, Fuze has so many options in his primary weapon.
This claim that we want "each character to be equally desirable" essentially has us trying to guess Ubisoft's intent and their own design philosophy. You see the ideal as being each operator is equally viable, while I see it more that there's a core of operators who are always viable surrounded by specialist operators who are useful on certain maps in certain scenarios.
Fuze, who I already pointed to as a versatile op, is far less desirable on Hostage missions because of his ability. He's versatile, but he does lean over into specialist territory just enough that he's not always good.

So I'll have to disagree with the rest of your argument as well. As I see it, Ubi wanted certain ops to be picked commonly, because otherwise they would have made the Recruits into the generic riflemen and made all the named ops the specialists.

>>149952582
>too good at what she does
But your Nerf doesn't change that at all, you're just removing ACOG from her guns when only one of them is really that good. She will still be excellent at taking down walls and barricades from a distance.

>>149952915
A balanced game does not mean every operator will have the exact pick rate.

>>149952851
I believe that's the point, going off just by the pick rate is retarded. Is Bandit or Smoke in need of a buff because they have even lower rates than Castle?

>>149952915
There is no such thing as a balanced game.

>>149952915
A game can be balanced without every option being equally useful.

I wonder:
suppose we had stats on weapons. Suppose that 95% of Attackers were taking Assault Rifles, and 5% Shotguns. Defenders meanwhile see a split of 70% SMGs and 30% Shotguns (I've simplified Jaeger's 416-C to be an SMG instead of it's in-game classification as an assault rifle).

All options are not equally picked, but suppose in our hypothetical example, the weapons are all balanced. Just because Shotguns are picked far less than their alternatives does not make them bad, it just means they are less useful in all situations. This does not mean that shotguns need a buff.

Again, this is a hypothetical. It is not intended to replicate the situations currently in-game with SMG and Shotgun balance.

>>149952582
If I assume they just round down no matter what, and pretend they have a .99 to account for it after each one, attackers add up to100.9. But that is bullshit. Who rounds down like that? This is like a worst case scenario that I build up. The numbers are still fucked up.

>shields are the same size on PC and console despite the absolutely massive difference in player accuracy

thanks Ubi.

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>>149953169
>can be balanced without every option being equally useful.
>balance without equality

You know how balancing scales work, right?

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Why does he look like this?
Why does he scream?

>>149952960
For using your Fuze example - when you say that Fuze is super versatile, but in 1/3 of the games played he has almost 0 desirability... That is balance. He can be a really good pick and highly desirability 2/3 of the time, but 1/3 of the time where you are playing hostage... His desirability drops to almost zero. That is the essence of balance. It all balances out.

Ubisoft designed this game to last. They said they designed it for years. Having Operators that are picked 1% of the time is essentially like having that character not even in the game.

>>149953109
>She will still be excellent at taking down walls and barricades from a distance
Yes, exactly, and also what she does right now is, when those walls are down, she murders people quite well with the ACOG. She can be a fast, zippy CQB operator with her 3 speed, as well as opening routers for friends. It would still be compelling.

>A balanced game does not mean every operator will have the exact same pick rate
That is exactly, 100% the definition of a balanced game. Not every operator is good in every map or every situation, but on the whole over thousands of games, they would balance out to a nearly identical rate.

You are just used to the "CS 1.6" style of balancing, where it's "balanced" to have options of 10 guns but only 1 good one, but as long as each team has one good gun each it's fine.

>just going off pick rate
Exactly, that is why I offered some solutions to tweak them. Smoke and Bandit have lower pick rates but there is also little you can do to make them better. Bandit, if the electrified walls could not be seen from the other side (try to place breaching charge, it poofs) - it would be a direct buff to Bandit and an indirect buff to IQ/Twitch/using drones to scout the room.

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>>149953139
Overwatch would like a word with you

>>149953529
If you're not going to be serious, I can just invert the scenario since none of this matters.
>put four quarters on one side of the scale
>put ten dimes on the other side
>each side has equal value, but the scales are not equally balanced

"The liar is a person who uses the valid designations , the words, in order to make something which is unreal appear real. He says, for example, "I am rich," when the proper designation for his condition would be "poor." He misuses fixed conventions by means of arbitrary substitutions or even reversal of names. If he does this in a selfish and moreover harmful manner, society will cease to trust him and will thereby exclude him."

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>tfw solo queuing

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both new operators are 1 armor, 3 speed

>>149949020
>he doesn't know how to reload cancel by sprinting

t. copper 2

>>149953169
From there it all depends on overall game design, philosophy, etc. I bet you see a higher rate of Shotgun usage on consoles compared to PC, due to accuracy differences in the input methods.

Ideally you would want a close spread - but if you don't have a close spread, the use of K/D would have to be similar. There are so many ways to look at stats, but if you had shotguns

>70% of the time people use SMG, and 30% of the time people use shotguns

Now if you look at the data and it says

>People using shotguns have a lower K/D than people using SMG's

That would explain the lower pick rate on shotguns. They just aren't as good. People are picking them for a reason, but in your investigation, now you have a place to start looking.

If you saw

>Shotguns have a higher K/D than SMG's

One could potentially argue the situations where Shotguns are more useful pop up less often, but when those situations arise they are more deadly.

You need to examine more than one metric to really get the whole picture. Ubisoft is the ones who have that data. We don't get the whole data. We'll never see the powerpoint presentation where someone had to make an argument to severely buff Pulse into one of the most picked defenders in the game (when he had a 10-8% pick rate since launch, meaning fairly well balanced pick rate all things considered) Maybe there is data we don't know.

But if you only had one stat to look at, pick rates aren't terrible. It's essentially the community telling you what is good and what is not. It's not some dudes on reddit asking for a buff to Thermite because they feel he's crap. He's clearly not, he's one of the most picked dudes in the game.

But when you see Tachanka having a 1% pick rate for months on end, you don't really need to see other data to come to the conclusion he's dog shit and needs to be examined.

>>149953669
Let's be honest now. The ops sitting below 5% are generally ops that have a mechanical issue and they do genuinely need buffs because they cannot fulfill their intended role. They're failed operators.

Doc rarely has opportunities to revive someone. He usually just ends up reviving himself.
Tachanka generally will not be able to use his turret in a manner superior to him simply walking around with his SMG.
etc.

That's a failure on the design team to predict how the game would be played. Doc would be useful if DBNO was more common, or DBNO wasn't often just followed by a finishing bullet. Or, if there were hordes of enemies or walls for Tachanka to cut through, he may have also been useful.

I'm not sure how this post ties into the larger argument. Your posting style is similar to the anon I have been talking with however, so I assume that it is the same person.

>>149953669
So buff he character that is at 1%, your ash Nerf does nothing because her gun will still be good damage, accurate, and controllable, and she will still be able to take down things from a distance. She will still be good on every map. Your definition of a balanced game is impossible, you will never be able to make it where everyone is equal. You offered no solutions to Smoke or Bandit before I mentioned them. In reality, a balanced game is a game where you are not gimping your team for not choosing a specific operator or gimping your team by choosing a specific one.

>>149953705
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
HAHAH
ha

What if we had an operator with an axe?

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>>149953797
>Weight of US Quarter - 5.6 g
>Weight of US Dime - 2.2 g

Please post your face when you just helped my argument.

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>>149954258
>each side has equal monetary value, but the scales are not equally balanced

>>149954258
>tfw deviation in total weight is .4 g
>tfw the scale is almost perfectly balanced by over 98%

I need to see his face when he is blown the fuck out.

>>149953232
Can anyone elaborate why the numbers are fucked up? They don't add up to 100%. They don't include the dlc operators. Even if I try and fix the numbers based on what another anon said, the numbers are still bullshit fucked up. Why do people still use the pick rate numbers?

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>>149954258
>4 quarters = 22.4 g
>10 dimes = 22 g
>despite him not arguing about the weight of the coins but the value
how will he ever recover

YOU GUYS ARE ALL IDIOTS, THE MOST IMPORTANT THING TO TALK ABOUT IS THE INCLUSION OF THE UNIVERSITY MAP AND WHEN IT IS COMING!

>>149954150
If taking away Ash's ACOG won't make her a less desirable pick, why is so many people saying taking her ACOG would make her worse? More importantly, why are people using ACOG's if they provide 0 benefit over an eotech or aimpoint?

>definition of a balanced game is impossible
You'll never get it perfectly balanced. Depends on what your acceptable deviation is. Characters with 17% and 15% pick rates and 5% and 3% rates is fucking terrible. If you had everyone at 11-9% it would be amazing.

I'm glad you don't work in my industry.

>offered no solutions to Smoke or Bandit
Some of the nerfs would help out. With Nitro's being less powerful by not being able to be thrown, Smoke has the only throwable area denial tool.

Bandit is alright. You can tweak it so his fucking electricity doesn't show and that'd be a big boost for him (and a buff to IQ) but aside from that doing anything else to him might potentially make him too powerful. His ability is somewhat niche to begin with, and the current meta revolves around roaming. If you make shields more useful and BB less powerful, you may see a drop in roaming, more people defending the objective room, and thus Bandit getting a higher selection rate.

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>>149954258

>>149954710
>I'm glad you don't work isn't industry
have you ever played Blacklight Retribution?

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>>149954258
>scales have equal value
>scales are almost perfectly balanced by weight

argument status: BTFO

>>149954839
Not him, but Tango Down was far and away the better title.

>>149954839
>involved in F2P shovelware

explains everything

>good place to camp
>except there's a drone hole looking right where you'd like to be sitting

I hate it.

>>149953814
Get on the TS we need a 5th

>>149955261
zombie studios, worked on both. You also have got to be kidding me, we improved a ton of the issues in Tango Down like matchmaking/lobby system, what did you like less, map design?
tango down was better than making a Saw 3, I'll give you that much.

>>149955356
>F2P shovelware
You could have just said no.

Name a game that is perfectly balanced? I have yet to find a game where there are multiple characters where they are balanced rock paper scissors.

While not directly related, League of legends has evolved since it began. At first people made mish mash of teams, But as more dominate champs were found out, people start gravitating towards them, Then a meta is formed over certain team comps. After time certain champs can be buffed or nerfed. All that will happen is that a new meta team will form and you won't get an even pick rate between champs. For league, one factor they use to see if a champ is good or bad is win rate. While not a final number on things, more numbers would be fine in the overall picture.

In my mind, teams are formed of a few must haves, then some situational picks.

As a numbers guy, we can't rely only on one metric. I mean, the numbers still don't add up to 100%.

In a perfect world, we would have pick rate(WITH ALL DLC CHARACTERS), win rate, and the difference between rank and casual. I mean, in casual, it is free for all as anyone can pick anyone cause no one cares. For Rank, there is a certain Meta, or team comp that is just to good.

Overall, we can't get a perfect 8.333% split (that's with the current dlc, 7.69% for the new dlc) No matter what, some characters will always be inherently be better than others. If you nerf a guy, people will just pick a guy who is stronger to replace him.

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>>149953975
reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

>>149955762
>You could have just said no.
I hold Blacklight in the same regard I hold Warframe, and Gunz: The Duel.

>>149955979
Siege is basically Dota2/LoL in terms of its balance between the maps/operators. There are strong picks, situational picks, and weak pics. But the maps play out differently each time. A certain team composition won't win you the match 100% of the time.

So you're operating when suddenly you are mounted from behind by a Brazilian girl.

What do?

>>149956098
That's cold, we weren't that bad, except when 1-Day rentals were taken away then put back later

>>149956335
mfw Shad will make art of this. This is up his alley with face paint chick who has some goth vibes also. Perfect for that futa addition as she "interrogates" other operators.

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>>149956335

oops, meant to post this with it

>>149956470
I await it eagerly.

>>149956531
m-me too

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>>149955979
Overwatch is not perfectly balanced but, guess watch, they are actually CONSTANTLY tweaking and updating based on the stats of the game. Regular updates too. The game has been out two months and they have already drastically changed how some characters behave and perform in the game. This is not including the alpha/beta where some characters got major overhauls.

This hero based MOBA meme in game design is fairly new and isn't going away.

As shit as that old Shadowrun game was, they spent a really long time making the difference races and magic/tech fairly balanced. While you had cliche tropes to work with, they all felt fairly balanced out with good counters to all of them.

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>>149956596
>CONSTANTLY tweaking and updating based on the stats of the game

That's because Blizz doesn't know how to balance its game or the shit maps it created.

>>149956762
>>149956596
The one thing I don't understand is the mcree nerf. How does a bullet become weaker, as soon as you fan your gun? A single fire is weaker than a single bullet from fan fire. THE BULLET COMES FROM THE SAME GUN! YES, BY SHOOTING FASTER, THE BULLETS GET WEAKER.

>>149956935
meant to say A single fire is stronger than a single bullet from a fan fire

>>149956596
Overwatch is not even close to a MOBA, are fucking retarded?

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>>149956596
>CONSTANTLY
Triggered.

They admit theres an issue. Then say it will be fixed. Then sit around for a month.

>>149957242
>McCree has been updated like 9 times
>Zenyatta got a massive buff
>D.Va got a massive buff
>constant tweaks to various characters
>reworked how Ult's charge so self healing can charge em up
>this was all just in the last patch

I don't like Blizzard for a number of reasons but I respect their commitment to the game. What I'd like are more modes and maps, but they are committed to not having dogshit characters.

>>149957057
It's a blizzard game. This is their first game where the players actually have direct control over whether their weapons hit, and where.
Now, I never bothered much with WoW, but supposed you had a Ranger ability where he can score headshots for additional damage. Naturally, this means the basic ranger attacks can be lower because they're not headshots.

That's the mentality Blizzard has. The damage of Fan the Hammer is worse because "they're less accurate and hitting areas where they cause less damage," or some such other nonsense.

it's a game
a shitty one at that calculated for mass appeal at the cost of things like kills and deaths really mattering. Even a moba or a casual buttshooter has kills/deaths counting for more

>>149957452
>but they are committed to not having dogshit characters.

Game will be flawed until they fix the maps and how stupid ranked is. Right now they're just tossing out buffs and nerfs at will just like they did in WoW.

>>149957086
Overwatch is a class based shooter with ability cool downs. A more comparable game is TF2. So it is TF2 with cool down abilities. But this discussion is for another thread.

Let's not divert to much. I only used the league as an example of a game with multiple characters and how not everyone is on an even pick rate.

>>149957617
I think Siege is much more comparable to the popular MOBAs than Overwatch. Rounds tend to play the same in Overwatch, in Siege every match is different. Just like in the popular MOBAs.

>>149957543
They have constantly admitted they are getting rid of their stupid Overtime coin flip mode, reworked a few times how they handle punishment for leavers and how they dish out consequences to those stuck on the same team as a leaving fuccboi, they have made tweaks to ranked (1 hero limit only, shorter overtime in rounds + extended respawn) that will drastically change season 2

I get it, you don't like Overwatch. I'm already getting tired of it myself where as Siege still feels fresh. But to try and deny in some way that they are not addressing the basic concerns people have is actually delusional.

This isn't Ubisoft announcing a surprise buff for Pulse, for no reason which nobody asked for - they do their stuff. Ubisoft has the better game, but a shitty team behind it. Overwatch is a worse game but has an amazing support team behind it.

If we could get the Blizzard team managing Siege, we'd have the best tactical shooter to ever exist. Tachanka would actually be useful.

>>149957535
>>149957535
but each shot for mcree's fan fire can hit the head thus critting. In a perfect world, you could fan fire and adjust accordingly where you can hit the head on every shot. So you can't say lol less accurate less chance to hit vitals when you can hit the head with it.

>>149948445
Guys, predictions for the new info reveal for the 29th? I hope it is another operator update.

>we all suspect the next BR dominatrix is going to be super OP
>she's going to fucking suck since enemies getting marked are simply just going to rescue their team mate or stop breaching until they kill her ass

I don't expect her changing the meta up as much as valk did

>>149958478
Most attackers move in as a group, or at least as a pair. The only time you will have a lone attacker was because he went rambo and went to flank by himself.

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>>149957930
Nope, not unless they changed something. Even if it hits head, it receives no bonus.

>>149958983
then i guess i am wrong, but that still makes the situation retarded in my mind

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>>149957717
>this game is comparable to a MOBA because of this incredibly vague similarity like "matches usually play differently" or "each playable character has their own abilities" despite having wildly different core gameplay mechanics
Getting tired of this meme. If we're going to make stupid comparisons, then Siege is more like a fighting game than anything. Every character is different with their own special abilities, mobility, health, attack range, etc.

>>149958478
I'm more concerned about the one-hit 100% silent movement kills and nitro. That could get annoying fast, especially while playing shields.

>no set restriction on it only being from behind. Can get these one-hit DBNO shots from the front too

>>149959157
Fighting games are mobas. Devil May Cry is a moba.

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>>149959157
MOBAs and Fighting games are popular for their level of depth.

Siege is a rarity in that it is a FPS with an enormous amount of depth. How much autism must you have to get upset over a simple comparison?

>>149958046
AROUND WHAT TIME WILL THEY RELEASE NEW INFO, I NEED MY SLOW DRIP.

>>149959201
You have to be close range for it to be a 1 hit I think. IDK what the range is but you can't snipe with it half way across the map that I am sure.

>>149959317
Sure, but fire rate could mean ez shield/BB kills
I'm sure BB kills someone will sit and justify, but the larger idea of an operator who ignores what the armor stat means bothers me.

Iwantcheats, hacksite that made it's money 90% from Siege hacks is offline

>>149959316
>>149959157
In a moba you have dynamic interactions within your own team and with the enemy. In a fighting game, the only interaction is with the enemy.

>>149959485
>he never played MvC2

>>149959316
You're joking, right? MOBAs are popular because they're free, a toaster could run them, and they're accessible (especially referring to LoL here).

>>149959459
This is good? Battleye did it?

>>149959427
I guess we will have to see how the gun's effective range is. All we can do is speculate.

>>149959427
>but the larger idea of an operator who ignores what the armor stat means bothers me.

We'll see how it plays out. She likely just has a high damage, susceptible to armor pistol. But there is a potential here for her to be equally as game breakingly annoying as BB.

People always make comments like "Oh if Blackbeard was just added to the game he would be just as annoying" but, no, having a dude who is invincible in 1v1 firefights and a girl who runs up behind you without footsteps and can 1H-DBNO you is very fucking gay... And Ubisoft has a history of adding shit like this

Valk I feel has changed the meta in a positive way but Frost when she was added was just straight up annoying.

>>149959587
>MOBAs are popular because they're free
Thanks for the laugh, if that was the case then every F2P would be wildly popular. The two MOBA kings are popular because of the depth, the varied hero roster, and you learn something new every time you play.

Siege has a lot of these similarities. It wouldn't have a stable player base if it didn't.

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>>149959739
>The two MOBA kings are popular because of the depth
>Thanks for the laugh
Oh man. The feeling is mutual.

>>149959459
kickass tor also went down. From what I read, through a false ad that gave authorities a latvian bank account. In other words, it was taken down through the methods that they were making money with.
I'm not one for tinfoil hatting, but would this sort of thing be related, even remotely?

>>149959739
>people would pay for a MOBA

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

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>>149959931
>I've never played Dota2 and must make up a fake emotion to appear valid.

>>149959931
Not him, but mobas do have lots of numbers that look like they could be depth. I don't know.
Does Diablo and co. have depth from all the numbers on screen?

>>149960072
>He doesn't know about cosmetic skins and models in every MOBA that people gladly pay for

wew lad

>>149959592
>>149960035
From what I understand people bought Rust, Doom and CS:GO hacks from there too but it was like 90% of the sales was Siege, so I guess they grabbed the cheaters money and ran lmao

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>>149960072
>people would pay for pixels

ha, who would do that?

>>149960136
Not him or anyone in this MOBA conversation, but MOBA's are easy to play hard to master. Like how World of Warcraft was easy to get into and got a fuck ton of people, it's easy to get casual friends into it, they get hooked, and then there is something to learn beyond that. Especially with all the minions running around where you can get kills, it's easy to have fun without learning how to be good at the game (think of how hard it is for new people to get into CS cause they have to not suck to begin having fun)

>>149960264
>implying people would still pay a retail fee for a MOBA

People are willing to spend what they are already emotionally invested in. Who the fuck is buying a 60 dollar MOBA?

>>149960627
I don't understand the people who pay for $60 games either. I can't remember the last time I bought something for more than $40 due to sales or whatnot.

that was probably the smartest thing Blizzard did with Overwatch was making the base game $40.

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>>149960385


why

>>149960119
I have played it. You claiming MOBAs mechanical depth are a reason for them being popular is fucking retarded.

Not even fighting games are popular because of their depth. The only people who give a shit about that are the hardcore players and they are a small minority. Fighting games are popular because they're easy to jump into and play, which is exactly what I said about LoL too.

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>>149960627
Is there an argument you're trying to make? Do MOBAs not have depth because they are free to play?

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>>149959739
dota > league

>>149960770
>fighting games are popular because they're easy to jump in and play
Disagree. It's more the subject matter that gets the dudebros on board.

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>Defending
>some fag starts spraying at drones to get that mad score
>ends up shooting me and bringing me down to 40 hp
>"Fuck you i was shooting drones you walked in front of me"

>>149960798
Something can have depth but not have appeal for someone to want to open their wallet to try.

It's like having delicious ooze. Once you eat it, it could be the most amazing thing, but if you saw a bowl of ooze you wouldn't go "MAN THAT SHIT LOOKS TASTY"

Why do people keep saying Bandit used to be a drug dealer?

>I was undercover. I had to deal drugs, even had to kill. I got a promotion.

He was always an agent, he dealt drugs as part of his cover. I saw the video one time and understood it perfectly, is it a meme I don't get?

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>>149961693
It's a joke dude. You should know by now that everything gets exaggerated for humor.

>>149961693
>I had to deal drugs
>he dealt drugs as part of his cover
So I guess you could say he used to be a drug dealer, no?

What do you do to pass time between rounds?

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rate my epic meme

Is it possible to place more then one breeching charge without setting each one off before placing enother?

>>149962203
No. If you are ash or thermite you could place two at once, but otherwise no.

>>149962197
bretty gud

who has the best handgun?

>>149962963
SAS followed by GSG9
M45 for FBI is okay, as is the high-power russian one. Everything else is dogshit.

Dunno about DLC ops.

>>149962963
SEALS

>>149947784
>>149947784
Maybe they thought they could sell more headgear if it makes them look less retarded instead of more retarded.

>>149962284
Got it.

For this video (http://xboxdvr.com/gamer/JABBERWOCK%20xeno/video/20036274), is there a way for me to bust through the doo as I'm rappeling in?

Also, I know walking on broken glass is supposed to make noise, but it only seems to barely do and only sometimes. Am I missing something? What about random ammo shells I see on the floor as well?

Keep in mind i'm only doing training missions so far

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>>149963367
>Introducing EPIC new headgear DLC!
>Hatless!
>Clean face!
>Reading glasses!

The AR33 is fun.

>>149964274
>tfw getting into bad habits placing jammers because no one takes Thatcher half the time

Anyone from ASIA?

>>149962197
good shit

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>>149962179
I watch pic related
http://www.pornhub.com/view_video.php?viewkey=ph578d2c549906b

Looking for 4 other operators with renown boosters to grind out the free weekend with that sweet 500% bonus.

>>149964752
I had the same problem but after playing for 50 more hours I can now easily identify blacbeard at a glance. It takes some practise. If unsure, peek quickly for a split second and then unpeek, your mind will take a few moments to process all you saw. That's a quite safe way of getting info.

After 100 hours of playtime and owning BB I find him quite balanced and I feel he doesn't need a nerf. If anything, perhaps unique footsteps but that's it.

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>play game
>fuze fuzes
>no bombs come out
>explosion up above
>the_dayman has fuzed the_nightman

>>149964752
No. Watch this video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gto4FZCRXdE

You can see there is a very subtle animation as the shield absorbs the impact, but the crosshair also does not move on any level.

>it takes anywhere from 20 to almost 40 direct hits to break Blackbeards shield

I don't know who came up with him but that person needs to be drawn and quartered.

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Will this run on toasters?

I'm currently using the free weekend on xbone but i'd prefer to play it on PC, but the only PC I have on me right now is pic related. I'll have a new desktop built in a month or two.

Also, for the Situation training missions, do enemies ever actually try to kill the hostages? It doesn't seem like it

>>149969817
Try it. It's free u know

>>149969817
I have a friend that plays on a 660 and he can only just barely get playable frames with Temporal Filtering, I don't think your 640 will be able to cut it.

>>149969817
>>149970273

I'm 20 points away from plat 3 and I'm matched up against a whole team of silvers in ranked, and my team is all plat and a gold. What the fuck is going on here? Why? For what purpose? My last match was against 5 golds and it still gave me 32 points for winning. The previous two were against 5 stack of diamonds each with a winloss anywhere from 2.2 to literally fucking 9.0.

This matchmaking is beyond fucked.

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>>149971828
i ran outside with tachanka and set up my turret toward their spawn and injured two before someone finally killed me

Silver is something else, especially with a controller. I ran shield recruit and tachanka and they had no idea what to do

quality matchmaking at work

>>149971828
It's fucked because

1) it's still in beta (long of a fuck time for beta though, hopefully it's done by S3 dropping)

2) A lot of high W/L players either cheat, or they use a glitch, that while it does still make you lose ELO, does not affect your W/L visually.

>>149971828
this. It is fucked. I had a team with 3 silvers and 2 unranked and we were matched against all diamond premade.

anyone else getting a bad fps since last update?
went from 110-120 fps to dipping below the 60 fps since the update

>>149974431
still getting ~90 frames, but sometimes the frames just all disappear, while I used to have >60, no matter the level of action on screen

https://discord.gg/FdqgWve

Do people use the /r6g/ teamspeak?
It's deserted whenever I check

>>149950887
You are a fucking idiot.
In DOTA, pudge have highest pic rate, but still have ideal 50% win rate.
Following your retarded logic, he must be nerfed "CUZ LOL ERRYON PICK HIM!"

>first unlock is IQ because I liked her look
>then Thermite
>then Ash
>generally get wrecked when I pick IQ
>do well when I pick Ash and sometimes Thermite
>not because I use their specials but simply by randomly coming from the direction they didn't expect completely without breaching anything and just mow them all down

Seems like 90% of the time, the special gadgets are completely irrelevant because I never know when I should use them, mostly when I die it's also because some guy came around the corner the second I look the other way or some other such shit.

Also, people keep saying Frost's shotty is better than her Sterling, but I've had more success with my E-11.

>>149977275
there's two of them and there are certain times of day when it's active with 1 team full at least and second half full.
I just leave it up in the background. Once you add people from there to your friendslist, you have easeir time seeing when it's active.

You can go to discord and ask about it.

>>149977324
IQ is mostly good for searching for pulse and kap traps and valk cams. Keep her gadget out when you have reason to suspect one of these and stick with your team.

If you like sterling that's fine, you're allowed to like things in this game.

Anyone still remember the "Control Woman" who brief the player in the first three Rainbow Six games and her name?

>>149953669
not all ops are meant to have good guns, that's part of balancing. if thermite got the f2 instead of twitch, thermite would see even more play and twitch would see significantly less.

>>149977324
While gadgets are secondary to knowing how to position and shoot people, make sure you breach vital reinforced points with thermite, if not for yourself, then for the team.

IQ's 3 speed and great weapons can be fantastic when you know exactly what you're doing, and her gadget often proves surprisingly useful (pulse, shooting gadgets through floors/walls, etc)

Frost's super 90 is fantastic for an active roaming playstyle

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>Playing Ash
>End up 3-1
>MVP that was like 4-0 called me cute
>Said I did a really good job for a newbie

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>>149960963
>playing Mute
>Put down my gadgets for the drone phase, use all 4
>drone phase ends
>start going around picking them back up
>only have 2 now
>"Did someone shoot my jammers?"
>"Yeah I was trying to shoot the drones lol."

Cant even get into the game, just says "Creating Squad" for 5 minutes straight

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True Rainbow Six fans love Puchimas

>>149980896
i've had waiting times of twenty minutes, but it always works eventually from what i've seen.

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>>149980409
>mute places jammers by wall
>cool imma just reinforce it and then nothing will get through
>reinforce
>-5 friendly device

It's those little things that get you.

Great game, i love being stuck on the loading screen when starting the next round

>>149982173
shutup pussy my dick loves getting stuck in ur moms ass retard now give me ur lunch money bitch

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>>149982264
*teleports behind you*
heh, dont think so faggot

>playing casual
>expecting free weekend scrubs
>pick kapkan
>don't get a single trap kill
>end up being last defender
>clutch a 3v1 with his SMG.

I think those were probably some of my first kills with Kapkans gun.

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>>149982457
H-Hayai!!!

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>>149983867
Nice try..

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how's battleye so far. won't be able to play until launch of Brs

>>149984717

Suddenly a ton of diamonds are having gaming chair problems

Blog info soon. Wonder what it'll be. I doubt it would be the patch notes.

>>149944376
Man I wish they didn't make all the operators so fucking gay

>>149986416
More operator info

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>>149986552
Fuck you again

>>149977324
What's your rank dood?

>>149986805
Smoke and Thatcher have perfect designs. This is a fact.

>>149984717
It's gathering data atm so it's not really banning people yet - they said it will start banning in a week. Currently it just prevents people from playing if it detects anything suspect. Seems like cheating has definitely gone down though, I played for like 5 hours straight last night and won 8 out of 10 games, no one played super sus either. May be placebo tho

>>149986552
>plays a game called Rainbow Six Siege

>>149986901
too bad all of Smoke's headgear is shit and the knot good Thatcher headgear is locked behind R6 credits.
IQ is /fa/ as fuck and Fuze makes an excellent hockey goalie too.

>>149987419
>knot
I meant "only" what the fuck phone

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only blackbeard in sale

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>27k+ people playing Siege right now on PC

>>149987836
Huh, blackbeard's 20,000 renown for me.
Too bad I want Valkyrie instead.

>>149987836
>>149988062
>No end of the season DLC operator bundle like last time
What the fuck, ubi?

I think its supposed to be after August 2nd, because that's when the DLC operators come out for the season pass. I wasn't here for Season 2, so I don't know when there's gonna be an end of the season DLC bundle, but its likely going to be after August 2nd.

>>149962197
I seriously hope you guys didn't reinforce this

>>149988793
I remember buying the JTF2 operator bundle for 35k right before Dust Line's release. The Seal bundle should be out now, unless the JTF2 one was just a special thing and not supposed to be a common thing at the end of each season. Fucking ubi.

I'd enjoy buck much for if instead of toggling to the skeleton key you just shoot it and holding the gadget key reloads.

How much bullshit gets installed when you launch the game on steam ?

>>149991718
A key logger and some Korean tier malware

>>149953975
>1 armor 3 speed
>with a fucking SAW

>>149995243

I don't even care if the lmg is shit

M249 is my gunfu

>>149995725
I too enjoy the 249 anon but imagine that nigger sprinting through barriers just spraying everyone with an angled grip that allows him to ADS faster than the defenders. Should've been at least a 2 armor.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OAWmr7_bqQs

Is this the same as the actual Tropa de Elite movie?

I wanna watch it before the update hits.

>>149995832
IQ is 3 speed with an LMG . Besides, the weak should fear the strong.

>>149993942
hopefully mcafee will help me remove those.

>>149996345
True, but the 249 may hold 200 rounds standard instead of IQ's 100. The R6 wikia claims it has 200, but fuck knows where that info came from.

>>149980954
Stop that shit. Go back to your containment boards, you degenerate.

>>149997179
IQ's LMG only holds 50, it's really more of a big AR than an LMG. The HK23 was featured in previous games with a 100 mag capacity but not in siege. it really should get another 50 rounds.

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>>149997179
According to the leaked video, the M249 has 100 rounds. Videos of the leaked gameplay are also getting removed from youtube. The one in the OP got removed
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z-iuiuzAYKU

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>>149987938
>dead, watching lone friendly in 2v1
>friendly enters room and trades with Frost
>both are downed
>wild recruit enters
>clearly panicking as biohazard container alarm is going off
>shoots Frost

We still lost but damn, free weekend is hilarious.

Who's gonna make tactical realism their go-to mode instead of casual?

>>149999467
Tactical realism is only in custom games from what I hear

>>149999515
We oughta do inhouse realism games, then.

>>149999016
>more attatchments
>that shitty brhue smg
>FNC
I'm so happy rn

>>149999973
I'd be down for that.

>>149962963
Spetsnaz. They can have a compensator on their pistols that give them virtually zero recoil.

>>150000000

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>>149999973
heck yeah

>No season 3 update info today
I guess we have to wait until tomorrow for the live demo during the esports shit

>>150000132
The SMG is actually italian the FNC is actually a Paratrooper FAL

>>150002594
Thanks for correcting me. What's the models?

what's the superior racer skin? except for GIGN because i have them all pimped out

>>150003787
The SMG is the Beretta M12
The PARA FAL is most likely made by IMBEL

>>150003923
I don't really like any of them but the white and blue one is the most appealing to me. That's probably GIGN though

>>150000132
The angled grip is coming in season 3, but the new barrels are allegedly not going to be included in the initial release of season 3.

>>150004357
it is GIGN, thanks for the reply tho

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>teammate kills me every round for literally no reason
>loses rounds by just wasting time
>asks why i have zero kills
>no automatic kicks whole game
>probably a smurf

Free weekend was a mistake

>>150004446
>initial release
so does that mean some time after the hues or are they going to wait for the nips to release them

>>149949757
>not nerfing valk's shotgun
Yep, this faggot is confirmed to not know what the fuck he's talking about

>>150007017
>yesterday, playing bomb defense on bank
>bomb is in the vault
>be valk
>run to the computer room next to the underground tunnel entrance
>sit in the doorway peeking towards the tunnel with the SPAS
>blackbeard comes in, oblivious
>BLAT BLAT
>minute passes
>ash comes in, oblivious
>BLAT BLAT
>twitch comes in, sees me, shoots me
>run into the stairwell to the left, pop back out
>BLAT BLAT
>but thatcher is now in the computer room where twitch was
>thatcher shoots at me
>BLAT BLAT
>downs me, but i kill him simultaneously
>4 fucking kills from mid-range, taking no more than 2 shots per kill, no DBNOs

It's fucking hilarious honestly. Call me a fag all you want, but I love that shotgun just like I loved Frost's before the nerf.

>>149952094
If Blackbeard is sitting in a window why are you still in the same room, peeking him, and havent flanked his ass yet? I love people who just sit in the objective room like a fucking child waiting for the enemy to take advantage of them. Thats why bomb is miles better than any other gamemode because you can defend multiple rooms and open up a flank for blackbeard. You should have more roamers to anticipate blackbeards comfort with windows.

It's been a while since I've played; can't download the fucking update. Stuck at 99%, can't verify the game files, can't do shit. No multiplayer available. Solutions?

>>149952582
Thats so boring though. A team is just going to master 5 characters and never switch. I like how it is now where you see the map and determine you team composition based on where the bomb locations are. It takes much more strategy and planning as opposed to just choosing the same OP over and over again because theyre just as useful as the last one. Leads to pretty linear gameplay if you ask me. Theres just some characters that have great abilities that you otherwise would be challenged to attack without, like thermite and thatcher. Just like overwatch where there are amazing characters that your team would be at a disadvantage to not have like Zarya.

What happened to that starter pack thing? The $15 one

>>150009119
that was a temporary offer

>>150009283
Ah ok. I played a lot of this in the billion tests they did. Gonna try this free weekend, don't have $25 to spare for a game that may be dead soon

So if you truly gotta go fast with Capitao you'll have to use the dmr. The saw will slow you down.

>>150003923
Canada is dope

>>150009820

He'll have a hard hitting automatic ar and lmg

Para fal

>>150009820
By how much? And even then he can use his pistol to run around then switch back to the SAW like Blackbeard

>>150010592
I don't know how the mobility stats regarding weapons work, but it's confirmed switching to your pistol doesn't make you move faster.

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If Siege can reach an all-time peak of 40k and maintain at least 30k current and daily peak, that would be a fucking dream come true.

WHEN IS NEW INFO FOR 29TH? NEW INFO EVERYDAY, IT IS NEXT DAY!

>>150011156
$25 is too much for 99% of steam users.

I have $14 in gift card but Idk if I want to put it towards this game. Is it going to die?

>>150011268
probably not soon with the new dlc
plus there is still the season 4 Japs

Why does this game always look foggy? I'm not talking about like dust in the air. It has a very soft picture about it.

>>150011590
If I just buy the game without season pass how fucked am I?

>>150011690
Not fucked at all.

>>150011268

Converting my currency to USD, I paid $65 for the Gold Edition on pre-order

Now with the Free Weekend Sale, Standard Siege is only $18 which is just slightly more expensive than a Early Access Game.

I highly doubt Siege will die ANY time soon unless Ubi REALLY tries to fuck it up purposely. Before FWE, there's a daily of 14k players and a peak of 18k.

Siege slowly gains more players as the game goes on.

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>>150011243
Yeah, they didn't post anything noteworthy today. They did post the time schedule for the Skull Rain maintenance though

>>150011690
depends on how much do you enjoy grinding for new operators. I'm just glad that i bought it with the season pass for about $1 USD more than without it

>>150011690
I got the pass and it lets you play the dlc ops a week early and you get them for free instead of paying 25000 renown (which can probably take a bit to grind) and so far all of them are really good and pretty much must picks

>>150011690
the lighting is a little fucked too looking outside is super fucking bright and looking in is fucking dark

>>150009371
it's not going to die soon

>>150011819
I'll have to see how it runs on my PC again. I remember getting 60FPS on my 770 at medium/high. Might run better now that it's out

>>150011990
>>150012014

I really do think you're using the word "grind" wrong. It's not like I'm farming boars. I'm just playing the game normally.

What are Operators I should get first? I'm kind of familiar with the ones from the beta

>>150012242
They're not using the word "grind" wrong, fuckhead. You get about 300-400 renown per WINNING game. Divide that by 25,000 to see how many games you need to play to get ONE dlc operator.

>>150012532
Grinding to me has always been doing one specific thing because it's fastest when there's other content to do.

Like killing 1 enemy over and over when you could be doing something else in-game. In R6 and SFV you can only just play the game

>>150012242

I'm running a 770 as well and I've got everything pumped to Ultra except for Multisample AA. That shit just wrecks my performance.

I get an average of 72 frames and dips to 63. I haven't cleaned out my PC and I have a lot of apps running in the background while I play, so the lowest it can dip to is 33 especially on the Dust Line map, Border.

>>150012668
I usually have nothing running when I'm gaming except the game and client. I dust my PC at least once a month.

>>150012664
Okay. Well if you want to play ~83 games without buying any attachments for your guns, any non-DLC operators, or any camos, then feel free, call it whatever you want.

>>150012820
I don't really remember attachments being any good in the tests. Just usually a different sight for more FOV when ADS. What are they like now?

>>150012816

Then you should by right, always be hovering between 60 - 70 frames.

I used to play on Med - High and my frames were constantly above 60.

>>150011938
What day do you think they will post the patch notes?

>>150012242
Thermite and Rook are pretty much must picks

starting out maybe Sledge is a good choice with nice weapons and a useful ability
Ash is too
Fuze has a lot of versatility with his weapons just be careful on hostage with him
I would say stay away from shield operators though with so many roamers and nitro cells its pretty hard to do anything with them
Doc might sound good but when someone is downed rarely do you get a chance to get them up
and stay away from tachanka only thing good about him are his weapons which Kapkan has
Smoke is pretty useful too having a shotgun and the godly mac 11

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Welp

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What is this intel thing?

>>149977294
>Wanting every match to be Thermite, Ash, Memebeard, Sledge and Thatcher vs Rook, Pulse, Frost, Valk and Kapkan
>Not seeing why this would be boring as shit

>>150014192
when twitch tases you with her drone you get tased in real life

>>150014269
But every match isn't that, I have a ton of choice and don't feel like just because we didn't pick rook we will have to lose. Siege isn't a moba, it's more than just pressing Q to activate an ability

>>150009108
That is actually what was being argued.

I was told the gamma settings is fucked in the game when on default? Where do I change it because I don't see it in the video options.