/dsg/ - Souls General

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Mommy Rosaria!

>>149902965
Kicked out for gank squad enabling.

DLC info when?

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Can we all agree that Crown of the Ivory Kang is the absolute best DLC of the entire Soulsborne series?

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Debating another go at DaS2. Unsure what class to roll with.

>doing co-op playthrough with friend
>cathedral of the deep, him as host
>invaded by red#1
>assisted by blue
>invaded by red#2
>blue runs off
>friend and I kill red#2
>blue dies off somewhere
>eventually see red#1 right before the boss fog
>has mimic head on but isn't taking damage from it
>suspect cheater, run into bossfight without fighting him
>boss instantly dies 2 seconds after we enter
I mean, it's a piss-easy bossfight anyway and he got the doll from the fight, but why do this?

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>>149903130
>why are there so many people with 1 or more phantoms to help them?
Because the system only throws you at people who play with phantoms.

>A much more concerning question: Why ARE there people who like to o the dirty work?
Cooping bosses gives you souls. More importantly it's fun, and tard wrangling the host is added challenge.

DS3 doesn't have ascetics and has a shit NG+, so it's better to keep cooping areas and bosses while also dumpstering invaders.

>>149903559
>coop run WITH way of blue

>>149903548
H E X E S
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>>149903874
Hexes are a waste of souls, though.

>>149903852
Yeah, we use it early game to deal with the invaders who have 7 +10 flasks.

>>149903874
Awful as they increase soul memory with all actually fun hexes.

>>149903548
unless you care for pvp, knight is the best class imo, cleric if you want extra heals but less starting weapon option (due to lack of dex)

>>149903921
>>149903958
Why does that matter if he wants to make a new run? Just use Affinity, Dark Orb and Scraps of Life desu

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r8

>>149903417

No.

>short
>only a few new enemies, others are just recolors of enemies from the main game or the previous two dlcs
>have to grind souls with low drop rates for the Loyce Knight pieces and slog through the worst area and boss in Soulsborne for the greatsword

It has great presentation and the Ivory King is a very cool fight, but the DLC not nearly as impressive as AotA or ToH.

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Let's talk level design, /dsg/.
What's your favorite type of level?
What kind of levels you'd like to see in the DLC?
What kind of gimmicks would you like to see levels use?
What kind of gimmicks you'd like to see less?
What the level design in Soulsborne games does right / wrong in your opinion?

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warning.
dude called Arash at Nameless King is a hacker.
hope i don't get banned cause i summoned him...

>>149903931
Nvm then, continue your work

So of course I just died to the Dancer as soon as I got there, how do I get back?

If you're not parrying, what's the next best way to deal with people spamming Gotthard roll pokes?

>>149903548
Explorer or Deprived.
Starting out with gear that carries you through the whole game is lame. Loot that shit.

Any /dsg/ player is going to engage in scott's ultimate metafaggotry tourney?

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>decide to try out pontiff's again and see if anything's changed
>7/10 of the people i face are passive-reactive shitters, with one of them being a washing pole running r1 spammer
>add him and politely ask him to refrain from playing like that because it makes for a very unenjoyable fight
>he replies with pic related
the inner workings of a metashitter

holy fuck i'm not coming back here again, fuck this place and all of the people trying to turn it into some prolonged chess match esport bullshit

>>149904376
Anything vertical is a plus.
Dark souls had great level design for the most part, BB a close second, and the rest is just garbage, even DeS.

>>149903548
Go full STR and power-stance Orma and Reeve shields.

>>149904587
Put up a shield.

>>149903417
>Have to run through the same area with the same enemy placement twice
>Nothing good other than a lightning spell and the curved nil
Nah m8 Brume tower is better

That being said I spent fucking weeks making a 1mil curved nil build on ng10 just so I could fuck people up with that extra 100 damage and the sick spin attack

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>>149904684
>add him and politely ask him to refrain from playing like that because it makes for a very unenjoyable fight

>>149904587
Probably 2h shield bashing.

Hey, /dsg/

Does Dexterity affect pyromancy casting speed? I want to move a few excess points in dex around a bit?

DaS3 of course.

What the fuck is wrong with Watcher's Greatsword infusions?

>>149904684
how do you find guys you fought on steam again?

>>149904923
It does, but sage ring does the same thing so you don't have to waste points into dex

>>149904913
>>149904764
But anons, no one uses a shield in ds3.

>get hit by nothing for 10s of seconds
>activate perseverance
>2kat weapon art instantly breaks my guard less than half a second in
>eat over 1000 damage

yay

>>149905040
view recent players

>>149904923

In 3 Dex does effect it, which is dumb since Attunement should. Though you'll be able to reach the casting speed softcap with no Dex and Sage's Ring +2 iirc.

>>149904980

It's fucked up especially the lack of better Magic scaling from Magic infusion. Watcher's GS is best Raw infused with the buff active since that gives the most AR for the relatively little investment.

>>149904923
Sage ring adds 30 "casting dex" for +0, 35 for +1, 40 +2.

So either get to ng3 and have 10 dex, ng2 with 15 or regular ng with 20

>>149905040
>shift+tab
>view players
>recent games

If you want to add someone that you found in a FC or something you're gonna have a bad time finding the right profile tho

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>>149904618
Explorer is a fine choice, but Deprived tires me. Getting good shit quick isn't difficult in DaS2. The only thing starting as Deprived does is increase the chance of a needless early death against bitch enemies.

>>149905040
Recent players or CE

>>149905141
*unless they're good

>>149904376

That re-done Heide's Tower looks sweet. Are there any more pics like that?

>tfw want to make strengthpyro but only small handful of viable weapons and very few levels to invest stats in, even at 120

>>149904838
is it unreasonable to ask people to tone down the cancer
if i'm getting this buttblasted at dying to shit like that, what about the people that'll suffer his bullshit later on

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>>149905241
>Be Ps4
>finish fighting guy, want to talk to him
>Go to players met immediately after fight ends
>Last met: Fagface, 30 minutes ago

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>tfw last ring i need to 100% the game
soon bros, soon i will be free. (till DLC).
i just have to grind 16 more swordgrass...

>>149904376
>Favourite type
It would be nice, forested outdoor areas but I don't feel like either DaS1 or DaS3 did them very well (never really got into DaS2 so I can't speak for the areas in that). Both Darkroot and Road of Sacrifices are just kind of big, flat, empty areas with a few items scattered around, some enemies and some stuff in little hidden corners. The first half of the Road of Sacrifices (with all the Corvians) was really good, so I think an entire area like that would be lovely. From what I've seen of it (mustard so I sadly haven't played), the forest areas in Bloodborne (Hemwick Lane and the one with all the snakes) looked really good.

Because forested areas haven't been 10/10 for me, it's got to be the fucking huge, architecturally awing castles. I fucking love stuff like Lothric Castle, Anor Londo and Cathedral of the Deep because they're insanely huge. A castle in high fantasy doesn't have to be flying or be covered in magic runes or have crystal spires or anything - if it's just stupidly fucking big that really makes the impression that the people who built and lived in this castle were serious business. High Wall/Lothric Castle/Grand Archives are especially good for this.

>DLC wishes
If we get a Deep DLC I'd like to see some more of the Cathedral of the Deep - its lowest depths or something. Gloomy, twisted, underground levels with big pits, like Tower of Latria or Irithyll Dungeon on steroids. Below that, maybe some really spooky water levels.

If we get an Angels or Londor DLC, more BIG architecture.

>Good gimmicks/things Soulsborne does right
Looping back on themselves, lots of shortcuts. Cathedral of the Deep and Grand Archives were great in this regard.

I like how Soulsborne games can create a world that feels pretty vast and open, but the focus on closed areas prevents shitty empty 'sandbox' worlds.

>Bad gimmicks
I didn't like how DaS3 had lots of bonfires very close to each other.
Straight line levels are never good.

>>149904705

Brume Tower and Shulva are godly though

>>149905219
I have 53 INT and base STR/DEX requirements, you think I should go Raw?

>>149905618
Damage calculators are your friend

>>149905556
>not just using SAC

>>149905724
Senpai, AR is a terrible way to determine a weapon's strenght

>>149905823
>SAC
wat

>>149905571
DLC level designs have consistently been amazing, Old hunters had one of the greatest locations I've seen in a souls game(The rotating stairs), all the DS2 DLC are great in terms of level design.

Oolacile was fine, nothing spectacular, but not Lost Izalith tiers of shit either.

>>149904565
Anyone? No idea where that place even was or how to get back there.

>>149905889
i think he meant SAM (Steam Achievement Manager)

why does hawkwood care about dragons all of a sudden? was this foreshadowed or suggested at all?

>>149905893
I'd say AotA had the worst levels of any DLC in the series. Like, they're not outright bad, but really they're just 'okay' or 'good' at best compared to every other DLC's 'excellent' tier stuff.

Royal woods is just daylight Darkroot with some changes, and From doesn't really excel at open areas. Township had some nice shortcuts and little side passages but ultimately it didn't really feel *better* than an area like Burg, just bigger. Abyss was pretty eh.

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>>149904376
>What's your favorite type of level?
Vertical. I think that Catacombs/Sen's from DS1 and Research Hall are the best designed locations in series as vertical structure gives a lot of freedom for creative shortcuts, traps and other things.
>What kind of levels you'd like to see in the DLC?
-a DS3 version of chalice dungeons with better variety of elements used in generation and unique covenant built around invading, gravelording and cooping in it
-some sort of a spooky mansion like Aldia's Keep could've been, with fake walls, labyrinths, weird rooms and extremely creepy enemies
-angel-themed grand cathedral in form of a giant tower you need to ascend
>What kind of gimmicks would you like to see levels use?
A lot of traps invaders can activate, more unique online-related functions in general like bosses being able to summon players, gravelording and other shit
>What kind of gimmicks you'd like to see less?
Fire the motherfucker from a DS2 team who did the dog alley in Irithyll and never let him design anything again.
>What the level design in Soulsborne games does right / wrong in your opinion?
The absolute worst shit that ever came from souls games is Memories in DS2. Dogshit awful and not suited for the series in the slightest. Best? Complex levels with lots of secrets and shortcuts, probably with some sort of stage hazards forcing you to approach them creatively.

>>149906074
the dancer boss fight takes place in the church where you got the banner that you needed to hold up after vortd

>>149905893
I honestly think Oolacile was the worst DLC of all the souls games. If it wasn't for the bosses it would an arena leading to some big open woods that loop in a circle, and then a long thin hallway with some side rooms before another big open area but this time its dark

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>>149906117
my autism wouldn't let me, i am hellbent on 100%'ing this game legit.
And i am doing it right now cause who know is they don't add any bullshit DLC achis

>>149906074
It's the same room as the one where that lady gives you a banner at the start of the game.

>>149906074
warp to the place you fought vordt the frost man and run to the other end of the courtyard, in the opposite direction to where you raised the banner
>>149905893
the undead burg is one of my favourite levels funnily enough. aota has great boss fights but fairly lacklustre levels as you say.

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>>149905141
If you're playing just to have fun, I guess. Shields are very good, they have no startup whatsoever in their stance and can reduce tons of incoming damage, I see no reason not to use one if you're playing to win, unless you're dealing with an hyperaggressive retard that rolls into you.

>>149904256
Ugly 3/10

>>149906187
>those dash forward animations
ayy

>>149904376
skelly covenant in dlc would be nice

>>149906135
Nope. Hawkwoods just a kiss ass little bitch that got kicked out of his fan club and went to go join another

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>>149906406

>>149906325
>>149906297
Thanks guys.

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I like the Farron Keep poison shithole and remember having a really good time with it on my first character. I put out 2 of the 3 flames and was looking for the third, stumbled onto the ladder and used the top of the flaming tower for navigation.

Why is the reach on straight swords so broken

Anyone on PC got a symbol of avarice to spare? I killed all the mimics but didn't get mine.

>>149906325
It's such a shame that the High-wall of Lothric couldn't capture what made Undead Burg so awesome, it's kind of like they tried but failed.
I think that Undead burg and the firelink shrine might be my favorite levels in any game, the interconnectability, shortcuts, scenery and nostalgia about that place is amazing, I will never forget my first time finding all the shortcuts, especially the one from the Bell-chuch to Firelink shrine.

>>149906526
I like this area as well.

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>>149906483
Transformation and attacks looks cool but how am i supposed to take that dash seriously ?

>>149903417
Bloodborne DLC says hi.

>>149904625
No, but Patches is our guy

Anyone feel like doing a co-op run?

>>149906638
Reload and go to where the last mimic is near Dragonslayer Armour. If the SoA isn't there, you haven't killed all mimics.

>>149906187
>>149906483
FOR THE LOVE OF GOD bring back the chaos covenant egg head

>>149906760
Which game? Do you mind EXTREMELY cringeworthy names?

>>149904376
What's your favorite type of level?
levels with sprawling architecture that you can actually get lost in, vertically or horizontally. I personally love Hindu/Khmer temple designs so izalith constantly being a rushed PoS is really disappointing.

What kind of levels you'd like to see in the DLC?
Fun areas to explore with coop, but still possible solo. I.E a giant labyrinth or giant tower full of traps.

What kind of gimmicks would you like to see levels use?
Areas with pressure plates scattered throughout the floor that make spikes rise up, pitfalls that just send you back to the start of the area or minorly inconvenience you, levers that activate something but close something else.

What kind of gimmicks you'd like to see less?
throw 10 enemies with spears/bows/magic with massive aggro range in narrow corridor

What the level design in Soulsborne games does right / wrong in your opinion? see above

alva, vendrick and aldia=cucks

havel, nameless king and raime=chads

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>>149906667
This form is a nod toward an old japanese trash horror movie, of course not.

>>149906956
>nameless king
>chad

xD guys im le son uf the gwyn who deaded all te dragons but now i use dem as friends xDDD

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WScMl8AIbOk

reminder shit souls 3 is a joke of game

>>149907037
what is Charlie Sheen holding?

>>149906651

But the biggest holy shit shortcut is havel's tower

>>149906804
I killed all of them and the symbol isn't there. According to the comments on the wiki I'm not the only one that happened to.

I want to start a starting equip only run on DS3
Which class should I choose? (Pls no Knight/Warrior)

>>149907647
happened to me too, nobody believed me a few days ago and just kept saying 'hurdur reload'

>>149907703
Pyro.

>>149907703
pitiful deserter

Any anon for PS4 fight club?

>>149906638
Sure, I can drop you one.

>>149907647
>>149907731
Bet both you fags missed the one in the big jailer room.

>>149906294
I wish they made use of the convoluted time bullshit and pulled forest hunters into royal woods, as it was the only decent area in the DLC.

>>149907996
>>149907970
Nevermind I'm fucking stupid. I used an Undead Hunter Charm on the one in Cathedral of the Deep and therefore did not actually kill it.

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the dancers swords actually have some stupid scaling properties and can reach 700 Ar at 40/40/40/9
They say D in everything but it's actually dex>Str>Int>>>faith
weird stuff
they get around 735 at 40 everything.

>>149907197
Damn... this is... the power ... of the A team.... a memehacki... masterpiece... woah....

>>149907996
no it's dead

>>149908229

And it's useless because triple fucking split damage

The same happens to the Drakeblood sword

>>149908229
but it's split 3 ways stupid

>>149908229
That's because quality scaling is fucking strong and the int scaling affects both the magic and fire damage while fai only fire

>>149907197
the whole concept of having a few special weapons that come in twos that you can dual wield is tacky imo. like, I can't dual wield these two rapiers, BUT I can dual wield THESE two rapiers because they belonged to Important Knight who dual wielded.

DUDE CHUG AFTER BOW LMAO

>>149908468
>fag bows
>do nothing
>buff
>do nothing
>eat grass
>i throw a knife because fuck you
>chug and applause

this happens way too much

>>149908468
CHUDE BOG DUFAO AFLM UTER

>>149908456
shh you can't question memezaki's genius, else lucifer will respond to you

>>149907250

A rifle.

>>149908394
Nah. If it says something like 300 phys, 200 magic, 200 fire, it's 300 phys 200 elemental per sword. More like 1000 split 4 way or 500 split 2 way. Not that bad for cs

What's a good enemy to practice parrying on?

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>>149908387
>drakeblood is useless

>>149908468
>dragon DUELS
>people run away into mobs

>>149908601
people who do any gesture 30 seconds after killing you need to be permabanned

>>149904376
>What's your favorite type of level?
Literally anything rainy. I've had to be forcibly put through counseling because of my severe pluviophilia, to the point where I'd stay outside and sleep in the rain. missing school, work, medical appointments and other important events. I've made at least two score, (that's twenty) different invading characters for Drangleic Castle, simply because of the rain.
>What kind of levels you'd like to see in the DLC?
Rainy ones. Urban or jungle, no specific preference. I'd love lots of skill-based shortcuts with instant death as the punishment and tons of cover from the rain, with disgustingly cheap traps that abuse a blind-player's ignorance to the absolute maximum, and even catch unwary veterans off guard at times.
>What kind of gimmicks would you like to see levels use?
More traps. Traps that are downright unfair and completely fucking overpowered in every sense of the term. Traps that cannot be avoided or prevented and can only be mitigated by prior knowledge.
>What kind of gimmicks you'd like to see less?
Linearity. I despise linearity with a burning passion. If there's only one way to progress in a level there's a good chance I hate it. If it were raining, Farron Swamp would literally be my favorite level out of virtually any video game, aside from Rainy Stranglethorn Vale.
>What the level design in Soulsborne games does right / wrong in your opinion?

Cathedral of the Deep and its myriad of shortcuts throughout that entire level, despite its linearity.
-There's a shortcut from the graveyard to the Chapel.
-There's a shortcut outside the Chapel that takes you back out to the previous shortcut.
-There's two shortcuts inside the Cathedral that take you back to the bonfire.
-Opening the main doors to the Cathedral opens a shortcut to the upper levels by way of elevator shortcut outside the chapel, which allows one to travel to the Deacon's bossfight, skipping the sludge pool and the giant entirely.

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>>149908601
>Fag bows in Dark Souls 1
>Dark hand him

Are the Fatty Angels weak to anything? Want to speed up this farming

>>149908953
Rapport.

i wonder if there is a mod to extremeley reduce lightning/ brightness (outside of just the graphical settings)? would really like to experience ds3 catacombs as i did with ds1 catacombs

backstabbing and literally anything else

>>149908953
they were really fucking easy for me
2handing yhorms, warcry + hornet riposte

>>149908953
dark. dark buffed mailbreaker does around 1300 damage on a backstab on them

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>>149908791
>More traps. Traps that are downright unfair and completely fucking overpowered in every sense of the term. Traps that cannot be avoided or prevented and can only be mitigated by prior knowledge.

WHAT ABOUT FUCK EVERYONE AND DIE ANYWAY

>>149908952
holy shit good fuckin job mate
too thin tho

Why doesn't Crystal, Lightning, Dark or Chaos infusing my weapon give it pure damage in that element?

Is this another great design choice by hackazaki?

>Crystal-infused Winged Spear
>S-scaling in INT
>have 60 INT
>get 400 AR of split damage

Thanks buddy.

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>>149908952

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In Demon's Souls, can I be invaded in an area that I've already beat?

Assuming the online isn't dead

>>149903958
Backup your save then and replace whenever your SM goes too far up

>>149909476
use cmw on a raw corvarian greatknife

>That obnoxious Black Serpent spam everywhere
So instead of fixing their pvp they made it even more annoying?

>>149909538
no

>>149905153
2kat weapon art breaks everything, even sunlight talisman hyperarmor.

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>>149909538

>>149909538
>>149909805
mmm love me a girl with shitty anatomy and no fucking spine

>>149909476
I mean, it makes sense that it would be split damage. You're not turning the head of a spear into lightning, just making enchanting the metal part of it with lightning, which explains why it still does physical damage.

>>149905508
This is my PSA for PS4 users.

Slap on the Online ID option and either remember the name and search it up, or go save the recording or take a screenshot and then search it. The character names are always shit like "Naruto Kurosaki" (guy has havels and washing pole) or some gay meme shit like "Papa Franku", "Pepe", "Git Gud" or ">topkek". Your not missing much by going online ID mode.

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>>149909476

Because fuck you, just play quality already.

Best and most weapons, high damage, get to do whatever you want with your ring slots, and you get to wear a decent amount of armor. You get so much more freedom and are so much more effective that it's hard to justify doing anything else.

>Ricard's has no crit modifier
Que?

>>149909564

Except I can't since I have to continuously switch my weapon to the Scholar's Candlestick if I want to cast anything, removing the buff on my melee weapon.

Bravo Miyazaki.

>>149909629
At least it's sort of useful now I guess. Though people tend to just spam that one spell repeatedly instead of mixing it up.

>>149909931
>he doesn't want to doggystyle her and make out with her at the same time

Is it just me, or can you not two-hand the farron greatsword to meet its requirements?

>>149910141
>dio
>not regenerating all damage

muda

>>149909629
sorry that the quality meta is now ruined

Any idea how to do a dragon/man serpent cosplay other than dragon form with the man-serpent hatchet and the ancient dragon greatshield

>>149909629
Just dodge forwards lol

>>149910354
Strength requirement*

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>>149910375
>not lagswitching

>>149910258
I've been using Black Serpent mid-range and then roll catching with a dark Uchi sprinting r1.

>>149910428
xirmen headpiece, master rags, deserter pants

would anyone playing DS3 on PC mind giving me an astora greatsword?

i'll be at high wall of lothric, password "cba"

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>Guy does legion etiquette
>Gets shot by a silver knight and fucking dies

>>149910583
cancelling gestures is dishonourable, if you knew SHIT about honour you'd understand

Is enchanted melee valid in DaS2?

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>>149904376

>level
I like levels focused around a central column, landmark, or monument. Anor Londo or Irithyll kind of apply, as does Archdragon. In terms of design and aesthetics I like the feeling of approaching and then scaling a tower or mountain.

>DLC levels
Or, conversely, I like levels where you scale down, down, down, down, down... towards some unknown thing at the bottom. And I'd love to have a level like this in the DLC involving the Deep. As incomplete as Izalith and Ash Lake were, I loved that sense of descent into the unknown.

>good gimmicks
Darkness and dynamic lighting. Say what you want about Tomb of the Giants, it had mood. Latria had mood. I wouldn't mind a whole level where you have to light torches as you progress with your own torch.

>bad gimmicks
Shooting gallery levels where you're expected to do the combat macarena while being shot at by enemies you can't even see due to the lock-on.

>right/wrong
Bloodborne did so many things right I can't even list them. The levels have mood, three-dimensional depth, and detail.

Souls goes wrong when enemy encounters aren't well thought-out. DS3 has an issue in several levels, such as Irithyll, where enemy placement feels too deliberate, like obvious "set" encounters. Undead Burg DaS and Settlement in DS3 are good examples of levels where enemies seemed to be moulded into the environments more artfully.

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>fighting ornstein cosplay
>he is losing
>out comes the gotthards

>>149910719
your right

i better watch some e-celebrities and browse reddit to study up on dueling etiquette

>>149910853

EVERY TIME I SEE THAT SET THE PERSON HAS TRYYHARD'S

EVERY TIME

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>From is notorious for having good DLC's for souls
>DS3 is last souls game, they've gotta have something planned
>Everyone will buy DLC because of this
>Everyone will buy DLC because they want to experience thriving DS3 PvP
>Everyone will buy the season pass because they know they will buy both DLC's anyway
>From knows everyone will buy DLC
>From makes the biggest, laziest cash grab of all time and gets away with it

Post yfw From has been planning this ploy from the beginning of the series

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Would you duel charm me if I Carthus Rouge'd my Fume Ultra Greatsword?

>>149910853
When it comes to cosplays, always assume that they will bring out the metashitter weapons.

Never have faith in the playerbase.

>>149911023
The last artorias I fought had a washing pole.

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>>149908952

>>149911135

HE HAD TRYYHARD'S ON SWITCH

HE JUST DIDN'T PULL THEM OUT

>>149911089
i'll duel charm you if you eat a fucking blossom

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>>149909629
Yeah, this shit is really obnoxious. I usually just wait for these fags to run out of fp and ashen flasks

>>149910141
Oh hey that DIO is me.

Cosplay event was fun.

>>149911089
I'd toss a dung pie at you.

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>>149911147

>>149911305
Don't dodge it like that. When it starts to curve just dodge forwards and it will never hit you.

t.pyro who fights other pyros

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>>149910378

The only detriment to quality is that you have to spend some time showing every pyromancer you run into that you're just not going to get hit by that. Once they give up on it you go back to being the best because you don't have to rely on one gimmick to win.

>>149910721
Yes, but it's more useful on a backup weapon.

>>149904376
>What's your favorite type of level?
I really like Stonefang Tunnel, so I guess mines, maybe.
>What kind of levels you'd like to see in the DLC?
Something akin to Sen's Fortress. A blind run through that would keep you engaged af
>What kind of gimmicks would you like to see levels use?
Remember in DaS1 how you couldn't truly kill the skeletons in the catacombs w/o a divine weapon? Something like that, basically. Makes me feel like a resourceful adventurer.
>What kind of gimmicks you'd like to see less?
HOLLOWS, LOTS AND LOTS OF HOLLOWS. WE'VE GOT HOLLOWS OF ALL VARIETIES, BUT THEY ALL HAVE ONE THING IN COMMON: HIT WAY TOO HARD AND WAY TOO FAST FOR WEAK LANKY ZOMBIES
>What the level design in Soulsborne games does right / wrong in your opinion?
The idea that there has to be a poison swamp in every game is really bizarre to me.

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/dsg/, I want to make a vitgouge build on DS3 but idk which weapon I should go for (no raw ASS).

>inb4 lmao vitgouge in ds3
I know, but I hate myself (a lot apparently) and I often feel the itch to make impractical builds

How exactly is riposte damage calculated?

Assume my target has 125 defense, 20% absorb and my weapon has 200 AR

>>149911305
How is this even popular?

How the fuck does somebody with a working dodge button get hit by that?

>>149911416
I used to do that, but half of the time I would just roll into thrall axe/lothric knight sword r1s so I stopped. When I do the side to side roll I avoid the snakes and their totally skillful vestiges/great chaos fire orb as well about 9 out of 10 times

dark souls 3 good
lulululu no

>>149911702
It has a lasting hitbox and can almost do 180 degree turns while its tracking enemies.

>>149904376
Like a lot of anons here, I'd like to see more levels with vertical design. This would also make the areas easy to design as compact ones that don't have to have more than one bonfire while cutting unnecessary bullshit in terms of backtracking. So vertical ones with a bunch of physical shortcuts.

As far as area gimmicks go, I liked Sen's Fortress where you feel like you're traveling inside this weird machinery and even if you know the area, you still kind of have to be on the lookout for the traps. What was neat about Sen's is that it felt like the traps had a real machinery powering them. The level was very impressive. I don't know if they can repeat the "house of traps" gimmick again without it feeling cheap, but it was alright.

What I liked about Dark Souls 3 a lot is that they gave the player a lot of challenging fighting environments like rooftops, swamps and other places with uneven terrain so knowing your weapons' moveset is of some importance.

I hope they also continue to link areas into surfounding ones like Road of Sacrifices was good because of the natural way it connected to the surrounding levels and you could see the landmarks around you.

>>149911465
Hmm. Debating a melee-oriented sorcerer for DaS2 simply because of the utility spells and how amazingly useful they are.

>>149911725
Well I pyro mostly so I just roll into them and black flame them in the face. Next time they try to black snake I just vestige them.

>>149911635
In DaS they got AR (not damage) multipliers just like different normal attacks.

Longswords were 2.5 and Falchions were 2.2, for example.

>>149910719
I actually agree, save for the honour part. Before a gesture was only ever done between friendly players, as victory cry or showing some sort of trust and accepting the potential of betrayal.
Now everyone uses them, they lost their meaning, do peopke even read the fucking text when going to another world? It says invasion, you're not there to bow to me just because you can roll when I do attack you.

>>149911924
Depends on how much int you're going to have. Enchanted just makes your physical damage scale with int, so if you want to use sorceries for utility, maybe it's better to go with a normal weapon.

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>When you are ganked by some dark sword kid group
>When all seems lost but some based buttmad other red is so tirggered that he curse-kills everything in the hosts world including aldrich
Well deserved. No way fags like that keep backups

>>149911416
Where are you finding all these pyros to fight? I want in on the action.

>>149911635
Some weapons have higher bonus for criticals than others.

>>149912125
got a video?
I actually thought of doing that

>>149912125
whats so bad about being cursed again? dont you just die and respawn?

>>149912170
Those bonuses are irrelevant, because they're just flat increases.

I.e. dagger has 40% more riposte damage than a longsword.

I want to know exactly how riposte damage is calculated before external modifiers

>>149903417
it's not even the best DLC in its own game

>>149912273

Nah but it's also not the first time I have witnessed that, actually the third time but the first time it was missing the curse effect, aldrich just died without anything else happening.

>>149912286

Seems to be the same as dying normally.

>>149910519
>ever admitting to using running r1

Ladies and Gentlemen

>>149912153
Pontiff duels/late game area invasions. Hadn't even found a pyro until mid-June and their numbers just went up the past few weeks. Most just use black snake and vestiges with witch locks and estoc.

>>149912286
I assume he's mostly enjoying that the host's area boss died.

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>>149912125
>parry some katana dude
>he pulls out LKSS
>he one shots me and points down

I love this game

>>149912492
>>149912460
i thought it would be more since he talked about those fags not having backups

>>149912273
I wish I knew how to

>Get black serpent black flame combo
>Nigger has 1 HP left
>He parries me as I go for a stab
>Instakill with hornet riposte

Uninstalling as we speak because I'm a shitter

>>149911305

Dumb pyros seem to think their spells will magically hit people at range if they just keep throwing them. Smarter ones use them at the right time since swinging your weapon is basically free, but there aren't many smart pyro players.

>like gundyr's chestpiece
>it's rediculously bulky and emphasizes how much of a manlet you are

but y

>>149912635

Because without aldrich there, they can't gank anymore. No boss, no invasions

>>149912649
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uARRoqeLJhA

As for the boss, just look at the tables, there's prbly something in them. You can switch to host, enter boss area and kill the boss I think.

So all those hallow enemies were human once? Why are they so big? In DaS1 most of them were just human sized.

>>149912915
they're baneposters

>halberd
>halberd
>twinswords
>katana
>halberd
>halberd
>lucerne
>halberd + greatshield
>katana
>twinswords
>twinswords

...this...so this...is the....power...of...build variety....in.....dark....souls....3....

>>149912694
That ain't fun though. What's the point of playing a caster if I'm using my weapon 70% of the time?

The point is to throw some and see how your opponent reacts. After you got his patterns down you can predict him.

If it's some hyperaggressive faggot or rollspammer though you just throw spells at your feet/side or ahead of their dodges respectively.

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>>149912125
>Get invaded at high wall when I'm on my way to get that first estus shard
>Attacks me while I'm fighting the Puss of Man
>Definite twink, wearing drang armor and has Llweyan shield
>Kicking his ass pretty good
>Pulls out Lonsword and spams R1
>mfw
Twinks are the scummiest, saltiest shitters on this green Earth, huh?

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>Invade
>Host has a gold
>Needs a blueberry to baby sit him as well though
>None of them dare attack me until they're all together
>Attack blue then finish him off by luring him into skeleboulder
>Dispatch gold
>Kill host
>Alt+F4s the moment they die

Why is this communtiy such fucking cancer

>>149913040
The playerbase really needs to memorize the saying "The weapon doesn't make the man"

Maybe then they'll stop getting smashed to death by anybody who isn't missing a chromosome.

>>149913226
nah anon. Thats just a regular player

>>149913226
>twinks are bad
why else would they be twinking

>>149903417
It's not even the best DaS2 DLC, and all the DaS2 DLCs are worse then AotA and the Old Hunters.

>>149913479
How so?

>>149913363
what sl do you use for catacombs? tried 30 but that didnt work out

>>149903417
>50loyce

I preferred Sunken desu but underground cities and ziggurats are my fetishes so I'm biased

>>149908791
I like the idea of a rainy level. It could be also a neat gimmick where you'll have trouble seeing some of the incoming dangers because the rain is just too severe. This could also have the effect of boosting lightning-based damage in the area and decreasing the effectiveness of fire. The area could also have lightning bolts from the sky as an environmental hazard and you could raise up metal poles around the area to act as something that will eat the lightning instead. Inside houses in the area you can get brief respite and listen to the rain hitting the tiled roofs outside.

Farron Swamp was indeed a nice area, I liked that there were also some crumbly ruins around too, I like the combination of crumbled ruins and watery areas.

>>149909951
>it makes sense
Stop it with this bullshit
This is a GAME with severe GAME BALANCE issues

>>149913578
120. I invade everywhere.

If you go around 90 with moundniggers you get an even bigger pool.

>>149913578
My dedicated catacombs character is level 50 and I get plenty of invasions. Some days are a little slower than others though, and some times seem to be busier.

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>>149913363
>Invade carthus
>It's a legitimate organized gank
>Curse kill everything, including Anri and Wolnir

GET FUCKED

>>149913898
hey it's a legitimate way to play the game!

>>149913898
God bless you anon. Help me keep glorious Carthus of the Sands clean of foreign filth and pillagers.

I once got told in here that when a host seeds a world you can get the enemies to attack NPCs. Spent fucking ages luring skeletons over to Anri when that happened once but turns out they were either wrong or just memeing.

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>>149913898
God's work

>>149913720
Tell that to Hidetaka "I totally don't get involved with game balance, I only work on writing and level design, no really, thats it" Miyazaki.

I get you man, it sucks that infusions that are meant to add elemental damage for players that invest in faith and intelligence are utterly worthless compared to just slapping a buff on a refined weapon.

>>149912915
I think some of them are straight up using Bloodborne enemy animations. And the other reason is that the player sees them better if they're larger than the player.

>inb4 the Unkindled are all manlets

>>149913898

>Been complaining about hackers lately
>Played it from the invaders POV today again
I feel it now Mr. Pepe

>>149913710
Anon, please.

You're turning me on. Stop it.

Why do people cry about using Way of Blue? I just want to give Blue Sentinels/Darkmoons something to do. Also, Sentinels are usually fucking awful.

>tfw souls required to level will never freeze at 2.5m per

>>149914186
I think ot'd be okay if you could infuse and still buff the weapons.
Making them deal pure elemental damage would be broken since you'd have casters with similar AR to melee players but with a far better damage type, shield chipping and spells and there aren't many top tier weappns with huge requirements.

>>149912915
Because by the time of Dark Souls 3 humans have become more powerful and interbred with the gods a lot, so like the gods their size varies way more and there's more larger humans about.

No it's because in Dark Souls 1 some enemies were large because gameplay wise it makes them more intimidating and lore wise explanations could be drawn, but in Dark Souls 3 memeahacki was just like 'hey remember when there was a guy in dark souls 1 and he was BIG well what if in dark souls 3 we remind the players of that by making everyone really big it'd be EPIC xD'

>>149914519
Because the guys who use it usually have 2 sunbros tagging along as well.

I use it as well but only when I'm fingered so I can get some 2v2s.

>/dsg/ actually defending hacking

There's absolute no excuse to ever hack the game unless the other party is also hacking.

Seeing how the DLC's have offered the best content of the series, I wonder if a episodic souls game would be 10/10.
Would be fitting for DeS2, because of the archstone sytem. They would also have to do something about replaybility with different item and enemy layouts that way.
Any thoughts?

>>149913898
I don't get it

how did you curse kill wolnir?

>>149914802
>/dsg/ actually defending cancer

Gank squads and people who cannot play the game without having their hands held are ruining this community and objectively do not deserve to have fun.

>>149914573
>I think ot'd be okay if you could infuse and still buff the weapons.
Oh god, no. That's giving me flashbacks to DS2 and the endless torrent of people rocking Lightning infused, Sunlight Blade buffed longswords and Dark infused, Dark Weapon buffed Warped Swords. I don't want to go back to that hell.

>>149914802
t. ganker
Get ded

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>>149914802
IT WAS SEEDED

SEEDED
E
E
D
E
D

>>149914519
Using Way of Blue is a-okay.

Using it when you already have one or two phantoms is a shitty thing to do.

>>149914802
I thought the same until my 50th 3man seeded dark sword + sorcerer gank.

And if you run cheat engine during duels to see people's stats, you'd be surprised how many 40 vigor 99 every other stat you'll find.

1/5th of total certainly

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>>149915028
>Not just black crystaling out

>>149914943
>doesn't know about elemental resistance stacking
dastards...

>>149915091
They would have kept doing it.

I needed to stop their no fun brigade once and for all.

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>>149914842
fart gas

>>149914901
I hack against super twinks as well
when you make the decision that your own fun should come at the significant deficit of someone else's fun you violate the social contract and give up your videogame personhood

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>tfw invading/rping as a firekeeper and befriending gankers

>>149914943
The buffs are shit in this game with reduced damage in PvP already. You cry like the people who are against working poise when it has been split off from END and the maximum is percentage based.

>>149914831
>Any thoughts?

To be honest my dream Souls game would be one that delivered wholly on the promising mechanic that was Chalice Dungeons. Their execution was shit but the core concept of infinite Souls dungeon crawling makes me so hard. I'd buy a game that was that by itself if they got the formula down well.

Their main problem was the lack of variety and reward. All the dungeons were made of like the same six rooms and the primary reward for bothering was materials to make more dungeons.

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>invade at lothric castle
>host is havel with a great club
>just watches as i take out his sundude and white phantom eygon cosplayer
>waves at me
>runs into bossfight

>>149915310
I hope I don't ever run into you, anon. I'm a dirty twinker but I only twink what I need for themed builds, like some nice looking armour if I want to knight invade at low levels.

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>>149915253
>I am not having fun
>So they can't have fun

best combo to use with Partizan?

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>Eileen is known as the Crow
>she hunts down blood drunk hunters
>the atrocity the hunters committed in the fishing hamlet has cursed them to go blood drunk, and be sucked into the hunters nightmare for all eternity
>her symbol represents the corpse hanging from the beams in the fishing hamlet
>what happened in the fishing hamlet is also known as the hunters first sin
>Eileen hunts them down and spares them from the curse by killing them instead
>Velka is the goddess of Sin
>her symbol is also the crow
>her followers hunt down sinners and take their ears
>those who hunt down sinners are called the Darkmoon
>the Palemoon causes beasthood transformations
>Eileen hunts and puts down Hunters who are too far gone and have become beasts

Someone get me a bottle of Sedatives. My next Lore video might just push me over the edge

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>>149915348
>being a cumslut

>>149915441
I don't mind late-game equipment at all, it's how upgraded it is that concerns me.
>>149915473
What? Cursing gankers is plenty of fun.

>>149915496
that webm triggers me

>implying he doesnt wear thiefs armor irl as he is stealing the best idead from lore threads

What armour looks the most communist, and would hammer or sickle be better in my right hand.

Im trying out a communist red invader build.

>>149915473
See this you little faggot.
>>149915310

I have no remorse for what I have done and will do so again with a smile on my face.

>>149915348
What are you using for headgear?

>>149915757
>communist
>not using worker's garb

this isn't difficult...

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>>149913039
>player character has an important mission supported by a head of state
>he's a small guy surrounded by big guys
>his mission is to round up a bunch of people so he can get to his target
>he gets to bring summons as friends but at the same time they're not *his* friends
>the other guys do not get bring friends
>when you're ready to confront him the fire rises
>Ludleth willingly stays in the wreckage
>have to meet him on a different plane of existence
>plane
>the final confrontation is a big guy, masked man and a literal hothead

IT ALL CHECKS OUT, CALL ILLUMIVAATI

>>149915776
You are doing God's work, keep it up anon

>>149915473

Their kind of fun is wrong.

And they're exploiting a broken PvP system.

And it's funny.

And are you serious? These are the people spamming "shitcock" on others' accounts after they 4v1 someone.

>>149915816
layers of hardened semen

>invade in irithyll dungeon
>4 man gank team
>right outside bonfire at the very first jailer spawn
>low sl66 strength build, using fume gankspank sword
>hide around corner
>buff with lightning bundle
>immediately start spamming 1hr1 as i see squad approaching
>pontiff ring kicks in
>nearly 4000 damage split between four players, hitting everyone
>entire team freaks the fuck out
>host rolls towards bonfire into a wall, three phantoms roll down to lower level
>host tries to sippy
>2h r2 him, dies
>host of embers defeated
>dog jumps on my thigh, bumps controller into table
>causes me to accientally jump attack to second level
>plunging attack kill everyone else just before im teleported out

gave him the rest of my chicken nuggets because he made me look like a badass

>>149915616
You can't even fight people outside your weapon level range anyways. Are you talking about rings?

>>149916138
>Pontiff ring

Good thinking Anon.

Gonna try that.

>>149914901
>>149915019
>throwing objectively for no reason
Is this /v/?
You can easily CE back bosses and NPCs, so your efforts are futile. But regardless, ganking is allowed per game rules, chesting isn't.

>>149915074
I have a fuckton of tongues and never did this. I considered it once someone posted a character called Und*** hero here who I met and teleported me to the arena, but I simply BC'ed out and later realised leaving Pontiff greatly reduces the amount if hackers.

Regardless, Souls PvP has always been about making your opponent mad. Hacking wasn't justified towards twinks before and surely isn't now. People pretending otherwise make the PC community be considered so cancerous

>>149915849
thank you good doctor

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>Tfw find and befriend a total bro Dio cosplayer with my own Dio cosplay
There's hope for this game yet guys and it starts at SL 80

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Bring Back Karmic Justice!

MAKE VELKA GREAT AGAIN!

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guys i need your help, got all of the rings for achievement (106 rings - standard, +1 ,+2 and +3)
checked it several times, got them all but achi is not popping. WHAT DO HELP

>>149916493
>You can easily CE back bosses and NPCs, so your efforts are futile.
Then why are you bitching?

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>implying fucking over ganksquads by killing the area boss isn't funny as fuck

>>149916493
>Souls PvP has always been about making your opponent mad

I know that's why I'm doing this.

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>phantom tries to chug mid-duel over and over again but gets cut off with my spearpokes
>dies
>chug all my estus as he disappears to mock him

>>149916493
I don't give a shit about the rules.

I want them to fuck off and die.

And you're implying that they're smart enough to use back ups or CE them back.

So do people curse co-opers that are just trying to get through the area and have some fun by playing the game legit? How do hackers justify cursing in this scenario?

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>>149916786
>accidentally chug in a duel

>>149916593
>Karmic Justice isn't in the game
>Vow of Silence is
>Vow of Silence lasts like 10 seconds

Maybe the DLC will add it in, but I don't think my heart could take it if they gutted it like the did VoS

Does upgrading a parry shield increase the parry window or just defensive stats?

>>149916736

It's hilarious, anon. Don't ever stop.

>>149914901
Cheat Engine and the 'tards that defend it are the only real cancer.

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>>149914802
That's why i'm always carrying a modded weapon around.
Even if that's an ebin creative cheater i want that shit out of my world.
Having such a thing became obligatory for hosting ganks in pontiffs lately.

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If instant backstabs were back ganksquads wouldn't be a problem.

>>149916835
There's a difference between co-oping and ganking. You can tell ganksquads easily by their builds and the fact that the area is either clearned or seeded and how they play.

Besides, ganking in ds3 is incredibly powerful due to the game mechanics and area design. Just fought groups of cosplayers and gankers when I was invading in DS2 today and had no real problems. Instachugging and rolling are the biggest issues.

>>149916835

3 man co-op isn't a gank squad. It may water down the game to being completely trivial, but it's not what's being discussed.

A gank squad is four butt-buddies, possibly even 5, sitting around in one spot waiting for lone invaders to show up and then gangbanging them.

>>149917094
hacker meets hacker?

>>149916720
nvm i'm a faggot, i missed life ring+1

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>>149916952
>accidentally activate WA with slow, easily to backstab animation in duel

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>invade fight club
>other red phantom jumps down into the pit to fight me
>kill him with the Nameless King spears lightning attack, with host watching
>Host jumps down
>bow, duel begins
>host gets hit by Nameless Kings spear lightning attack as well, even after seeing me charging it up, and using it in the previous match

>>149917094
>I have to cheat to get cheaters out of my world because they stop me from doing my epin gank squads and uploading the funny meme videos to memetube :((

The sort of cancer who cries about people using CE, ladies and gents.

>>149917094
Dark Souls 2 players, everyone

POST THE FUCKING /BBG/ DISCORD GOD FUCKING DAMN IT ALL

>>149914519
I used to finger around lvl30 cosplay build to help out the blues, kinda like a Fc.
Then I realized that half of the enemy phantoms were twinks and blues kept dying
Blog: one time I 3-2 duel a twink who kept hornet+dark hand the blues. he actually gave some challenging fights with his GS of judgment.
After lecturing him about blue's skills and to at least drop the hornet, he promised to go easy on the blues if he spawn in my world again.
All he does now is play Vindictus

>>149917098
make the invasion lv and weapon lv brackets bigger
and only give blues once all phantoms are dead, phantom slots cannot be replaced with invader still alive

>>149917098
The thing they need to balance ganks is to give player some sort of a ring that increases damage output by 10% for every white phantom present in the world.

>>149917098
Shouldn't a shitton of golden invaders be showing up to help reds out with ganksquads? They never seem to show up when you need them.

>>149917094
>dark souls 2 arena
>guy 1 hits me with knife and breaks all my equipment
>guy goes invisible until duel ends or I bc out
>guy with 100% resistance fo all non-physical damage in havel's

This is why I only invade.

>>149917230
>what is lag

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>>149904684
>spamming washing pole running r1s is not as easy as it looks
what the fuck is he on about
the whole reason washing pole running r1 spam is so popular is because it's extremely easy to execute

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>>149917109
>>149917162
>tfw use to dried finger Crucifixion woods and put on way of blue so that I can do some low level 2v2s or 2v3s
>Now curse hackers will think I am ganking even if I hide until second invader arrives.

Better make those backups I guess.

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Anon, is that you?

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>>149917590
yeah it was a fucking shithole

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>>149917225

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>>149917385
Vindictus was fun but the end-game grind was too much for me.
>>149917447
What if you could only summon 1 white/gold and had to result to purples for more phantoms?
>>149917568
That would help, alternatively just make it a default thing and give invaders increasingly glowing auras (think DaS2) depending on the number of enemies.
>>149917580
I don't know if that's actually even a thing. I think it might work for purples too? Not sure.

>>149917692
I do that too. Like I said, it's easy to tell co-op/dried finger from ganksquadding. Host with blue + seed is acceptable in my opinion, you are fucking his day up anyway.

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Guys i did it, i am finally free till the DLC, i 100%'d the game.
And it feels so fucking good.
what should i do now?

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Rate?

>>149917842
>What if you could only summon 1 white/gold and had to result to purples for more phantoms?
that would just reduce the chance of you getting summoned for co-op
which is bad

>>149917995
WHAT FUCKING LEGS

>>149918080
Brass legs

So what's the definition of a knight in the Dark Souls universe?

>>149917967
I often use seed too when I am doing Me vs 2 invaders.

>it's easy to tell co-op/dried finger from ganksquadding

It's easy to be blind to such things if you are butthurt enough. Hackers can get addicted to UNLIMITED POWER

>>149917995
every thing is metal armor except the torso.
no

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>jerking off to dragonsis
>suddenly pc dies
>boot up laptop later
>15 frames per second

>>149918182
dude in armor