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We don't have an official steam or discord group. If anyone posts in the thread about any "official" or not steam or discord groups, promising MP or not, be sure it's a shitposter group known for organizing raids and shitposting in the thread. They are known for false-flagging.
Report and ignore it.

How fares your empire, /gsg/?

This day in history, July 28th:
1540 – Thomas Cromwell is executed at the order of Henry VIII of England on charges of treason. Henry marries his fifth wife, Catherine Howard, on the same day.
1914 – In the culmination of the July Crisis, Austria-Hungary declares war on Serbia, igniting World War I
1942 – World War II: Soviet leader Joseph Stalin issues Order No. 227. In response to alarming German advances, all those who retreat or otherwise leave their positions without orders to do so are to be tried in a military court, with punishment ranging from duty in a shtrafbat battalion, imprisonment in a Gulag, or execution

>News
CK2 DD 16: Man's inhumanity to man
https://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/index.php?threads/ck2-dev-diary-16-mans-inhumanity-to-man.956080/

HOI4 DD17/06
https://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/index.php?threads/hoi4-dev-diary-june-17th-patch-1-1-red-ball-express.949237/

>Random Country Picker
http://randomcountry.gbasood.net/

# Archive
https://mega.co.nz/#F!WZZFXDyT!yyb25ZuLdLs0B8vhoKS3LA

# Mods
>> READ THIS FIRST.
http://pastebin.com/cCdcev76

>>[HoI4] - More Music Mod
https://mega.nz/#F!v5wXURpJ!TvoBinBVQWJbaYJsluyoFA

>>[EU4] - Expensive Warfare Mod 1.0
http://pastebin.com/gThqFi54

>>[CK2] - After The End
https://github.com/notalbanian/postapoc

>>[V2] - Historical Project Mod 0.3.5.4 - 25/07/2016
http://pastebin.com/66gpxbKk

>>[V2] - Napoleon's Legacy v0.3.1.7
http://pastebin.com/sN1g69sr

>>[V2] Alternative Flag Pack V7
http://pastebin.com/PRQH8vcV

>>[V2] Many Houses Divided - v 0.0.1.1
https://www.dropbox.com/s/jso7qa1c4ystej7/MHD.rar

>>[V2] - 7 Years v4.1
http://pastebin.com/fMCvXaAA

Old Thread >>149826068
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Reminder to report and ignore shitposting.
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Incoming steam group butthurt.
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>>149902774
What did he mean by this?
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Lü Feng Xian
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Good example of the average Paradox consumer
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based
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>>149902923
Who?
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>>149902934
Nice nitpicking.
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>>149902907
What anime is that?
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Do we have a release date on reapers due?
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Is it possible to get #1 in the industry score without having a large population or is it impossible if your country is just too small
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>>149903197
Yudayahito: Kawaī bideogēmu kaihatsu-sha
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>>149902934
>MALE CONCUBINES
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>>149903281
Its impossible since its based in the number of industry workers
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>>149903197
Naruto
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behead those who insult Texas

>no bully; 2nd play-through from 2013
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>>149903197
boku no podcat
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>>149903281
Theoretically possible if everyone is working in the industry, realistically not really because you will end up with less workers than populous countries
Unless everyone else is uneducated and uncivilized
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>>149903467
>vanilla
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>>149903406
Ahh okay I thought your profit factored into it somehow. Thanks anon it's been driving me crazy being a liquor baron and not getting the respect I deserve
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Okay now im really curious.
Was Paradox stealing assets?
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>>149903467
Nice blob fag
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>>149903467
What about the panhandle?
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>>149903553
They coloered the Hiro picture from one of his photos I think
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>>149903553
Wrong thread >>149673280
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>>149903537
That could be his first game or nnm
Relax
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Is it worth it to build factories before 1860/1880? I noticed that most goods simply aren't in demand enough until about that point
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Wrong thread
>>149902929
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>>149903553
Supreme Ruler was published by paraddox btw
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>>149903754
Yeah it is, I made quite a few with clothes and luxury stuff
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>>149903294
>>149903419
>>149903469
Am I really going to have to make a thread on /wsr/ about this?
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Does HPMautist have a list of all the provinces he fucked with in the map? I'm trying to get the mapping for the HoI4 conv working with HPM cuz I don't wanna play vanilla vic like a nigger
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>>149903754
If you have the literacy and the goods, yes.
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>>149903537

Was from vanilla but I upgraded with the DLC *rubs hands* a few months after (fall of 2013)

DLC makes V2 much better.
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>>149903862
Do it
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At first I thought this trick would only be a bit OP. Now I realize it will be insanely OP.

t. rob
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>>149903578
He was obviously 12 and had not yet taken US History classes or the first things he would've done as Texas would be take back its territory instead of creating a disgusting blob.
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>>149903894
He writes down all provinces he changes like "changed province 123 to"
Ctrl+f his old changelogs
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>>149903960
Wrong thread.
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>>149903960
What trick?
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>>149903578

What about it? Fuck the pandhandle we baja beaches naow for precious tourism shekels.

And for those who might sympathize with the US after I took their clay; don't. They went full commie.
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>>149903960
Fuck off rob
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>>149903649
Hmm...probably.
>>149903774
Oh right.
Well its a Paradox game then. Go figure.
>>149903671
>Supreme Ruler Ultimate is a grand strategy video game
>grand strategy video game
>grand strategy
Get the fuck out

I will play it once i figure out how it works.
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>>149903929
Yes it does , at least ahd is mandatory.
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How do you go from this...
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>>149903960
why do people play this game
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>>149903974
>learning
>US
lad don't make me laugh
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>>149904165
They probably got the same artists that worked in Supreme Ruler to do the stuff from HoI4.
Since it was published by Paradox, the studio behind it probably didn't have any artists and Paradox lent some people to them.
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>>149904215
Hipsters
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>>149904102
Try and spot it, friend. Shouldn't be hard.

>>149904215
Sorry it's not Hoy4, Podcat
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>>149904165
>HoI4
>grand strategy
>Supreme Ruler
>grand strategy

Is this actually what reddit believes?
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>>149904207
to this...
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>>149903974
>implying that Americans don't learn about how great their own country is and nothing else
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>>149904207
>changeownering rightful ottoman clay to greece
mad as fuck
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>>149904287
Oh my
Best Neville Chamberlain EVER
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>>149904358
but hoi4 is a much better game overall
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>>149904401
then to this...
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>>149904467
>ottoman clay
>rightful

I can smell you from over here, roach.
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>>149904506
This
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>>149904467
>implying Turk's rightful clay is anything outside of central asia
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>>149904595
>centuries under ottoman rule
>literally only turks in there
Yeah, it's turkish and it will be forever
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>>149904620
I too hate people because of memes
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>>149903281
Industry score is something like craftsmen in factories/4 + clerks in factories/something else.
So you need big population to have big industry scores.
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>>149902934
If he's a modder, why not just mod in male concubines?
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>>149904571
and then finally over to this?
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>>149904207
do you happen to have the save file for this?
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>>149904804
0/10
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>>149904002

Too many to go through, not really worth it.
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>>149904768
>memes

Not everyone is a yank, friend.
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>>149902934
>you can't play as a male kidnapping qt male cocksluts
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>>149905223
You sure look like one when you act like an edgy /pol/tard.
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>>149903467
>2nd play-through from 2013
Lurk 500 years before posting
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>>149904804
>Plays as grossgermania
>Gee whiz guise how did grossgermania form???
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>>149904804

that Germany is horrendous WHAT DID YOU DO??
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>>149903960
Apparently different doctrines in DH aren't actually mutually exclusive.

Ground Defense Efficiency is now 122% (will max at 129% soon).

All divisions are around 125% ORG 65% morale.

Manpower doctrine gives insane discounts to all land units.

All units have hugely boosted terrain modifiers. Plains will be around +50% to offense and defense and my infantry will have no penalty in mountains.

It's a combined German/Russian/Austrian/Italian/French alliance I'll be facing. Should still smoke them easily I think.
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>>149905406
Are you honestly implying there are no people who could have genuine animosity towards turkey, and with good reason?

Fuck off, retard.

>mfw google is trying to trigger me this very moment
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>>149905759
>rob is destroying another game
Why don't you just kill yourself?
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>>149905759
Wrong thread

Darkest Hour isn't GS
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>>149905935
Do tell me what turkey did to get you butthurt
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>>149906056
That would be admitting he's a failure in life, but he's too much of a failure to even see he should end it all
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>>149904207
>czechoslovakia without bohemia
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>>149905406
Where do you think you are? Reddit?
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>>149906115
Dunno, genocided my people?
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>>149906250
no one says /pol/tard in reddit or says edgy and if they did they would just get downvoted.
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Is this a viable route for France to take?
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>>149906056
>>149906168
Why does /gsg/ bully rob this much?
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>>149904882
yes
https://mega.nz/#!rQRFhSza
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>>149906395
>edgy
Reddit's favorite word for anyone who doesn't talk like an "intellectual"
>/pol/tard
Reddit's favorite boogeyman
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Germans can get fucked.
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>>149905759
Rob come back to the steamgroup. We miss you.
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>>149906408
we wuz napoopan and shit
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>>149906484
Because he's a child
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>>149905759
Doctrines are exclusive to each other but KR has some issues with events and them.
Your own fucking faulth for abusing it
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>>149906395
And pray tell, how do you know what transpires in reddit, tovarisch?
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>>149906395
takes one to know one :^)
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>>149906093
OP and strawpoll disagree.
Fuck off.
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>>149906749
>>149906820
Comrades, the same way we must have American spies, the same way we must have Reddit spies.
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>>149906648
t. GLORIOUSREICH sitting alone in the chatroom.
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>>149906849
DH isn't GS.

Nothing will change that.

Now go find the right thread.
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>>149906820
Well yeah, everybody here is a redditor lad...
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>>149907034
Speak for yourself plebbit
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Daily reminder that Grand Strategy is the whitest, malest genre of games and that never before has a nigger, sandnigger, or girl pondered "should I use this money to build dreadnoughts to counter the UK or build railways to increase Spain's industrial power?"
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>>149906726
Correction: The first level of each doctrine are exclusive to each other. As you can see from that image, I only have Mobility Focus.

Here's how you do it, from a vanilla DHFULL game as France:

1. Abandon Grand Battle Plan and press the button to abandon Defensive Focus (but don't yet confirm).
2. While the dialog is up asking you to confirm abandoning Defensive Focus, start the research of GBP.
3. Then confirm your abandoning of Mobility. You will still be researching GBP and can research any other tree.
4. Continue doing this as much as you want to unlock more trees.

Ideally you want to take and keep mobility last for 100% base GDE, then stack the +% bonuses from other doctrines on top of it. Get the -% GDE out of the way before taking spearhead and don't take another doctrine that resets your GDE. Theoretically you could do the same with Infiltration Assault and be slightly better off but that takes too long.

>>149906648
You don't even play MP though. You just sit around looking for reasons to shitpost. So no.
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>>149907345
You're objectively wrong, see >>149907203
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>>149907414
Include me in the screenshot!
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>>149906879
Stavka has not authorized such escapades.

You are compromised and you will be shot.
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>>149907414
It's not a copypasta unless you want it to be
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>>149902767
>Torrented Hoi4 codex version doesn't have the free Poland dlc in it
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>>149907345
the only person i know IRL who even knows paradox exists is an African from Kenya.

I think African Americans are too niggerish for GS though. Maybe the nerdy niggers are into it.
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>>149907540
I'm not part of the steamgroup
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>>149907818
I think I've seen this exact post like a week ago
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>>149907880
>MAH GAH
>MAGA
What did she mean by that?
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>>149907917
i know because i replied to the exact copypasta
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>>149907570
Don't worry mate the poland dlc is a piece of shit anyway
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>>149908053
I mean does it make Poland more fun to play?
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>>149906547
Thanks
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>>149908136
Do it and give us a link.

On a related note what does /r/paradoxplaza think of /gsg/? whats the equivalent of HPM?
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>>149908193
No the polish focus tree compared to other trees is fucking minuscule and gives extremely small bonuses.
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>>149908136
Have some gold good sir.
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>>149906547
>https://mega.nz/#!rQRFhSza
What's the decryption key?
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>>149908270
That sucks and it seems I have found it buried in the dlc folder inactive

How do I activate it?
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/owg/ is discussing overwatch
/twg/ is discussing total war
/lolg/ is discussing league of legends

so what the fuck is it about /gsg/ that means that ALL THE TIME there is just incessant fucking shitposting? Is it the lack of new content because pds's new games are shit?
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>>149908368
>https://mega.nz/#!rQRFhSza
!fjuDBJ1tk9dRUGDVHszQ_wRH05VJQPxiBoQjiyWeB_w
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>>149908584
its becaue gsg attracts autists. Look at the fucking conspiracy shit we have.
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>>149908584

>so what the fuck is it about /gsg/ that means that ALL THE TIME there is just incessant fucking shitposting? Is it the lack of new content because pds's new games are shit?

pretty much this
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>>149908584
It's what happens to communities as old as ours. Huge amounts of personalities and history = huge amounts of drama and shitposting
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>>149908698
>Look at the fucking conspiracy shit we have

?
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>>149908584
There's two kinds of autists, peaceful autists and violent autists.

/dfg/ is full of peaceful autists, /gsg/ is full of violent autists who lash out
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I just reinstalled EU4 after a while and noticed there is a shitload of expensive DLC.
Are any of them worth it? The only one I own is Art of War
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Are there any ways to beat bigger army in CK? It seems that in 99% cases bigger army wins the terrain and stuff like that doesn't matters. No money for mercs either.

I have managed to get 44% score but Ai doesn't want white peace just fuck my shit up
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>>149908637
thanks anon
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>>149908984
But why in the first place?
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>>149908835
All the steam group shit. It's like "ohh it's a steam group raid, they are trying to take the general over" and of course we have the pol nutters that think there is an active war between pol and lefty pol and that both group make organized attacks to discredit one another.
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>>149908835
rob, steam group, r&i, alex, janny

>>149909075
leftypol did legit raid us though, that's probably the only conspiracy that has any truth to it
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>>149909038
Because paradox games attract people with a political agenda,
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>>149908637
what mods are you running by any chance?
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>>149909036
dont-a forget to posta screenshot
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>>149909075
t. /leftypol/ steamgroupper
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>>149909234
Nigga what the fuck are you talking about like this is a thread in a board who the fuck gives a shit, there's no way that "lefty pol" raided us it was probably one or two dumbass just shit posting and other autist getting riled.
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>>149909038
as a community gets older personalities develop and thus so does shitposting and drama

>>149909245
political shitflinging only makes up like 1% of the shitposting that goes on here
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>>149909297
HPM
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did they fix hoi4?
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>>149909528
You can't polish a turd anon, so no.
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>>149909297
>>149909495
>>149909556
Just seriously jesus fuck, /gsg/ is incapable of normal conversation. My point is proven
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>>149909351
That's an oxymoron.
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>>149909495
>>149909345
thanks

i have a paper i should be writing
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Think this is doable?

I have 70 divisions.
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>>149909495
>alexmod
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>>149906659
>>149906484
>bullying a child
That only makes it sound worse
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>>149910120
Wrong thread.
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>>149909610
that's very sad
hoi4 seemed very promising
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>>149910120
>he didnt land when second Weltgrieg started
Ya blew it
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>>149909556
>>149910125
Autism
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>>149910390
Wrong thread.
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>>149910120
Nice redeployment AI

>>149910390
That would be too easy.
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>>149910217
>>149910526
>Le Wrong Thread Meme
hahahaha, classic
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>>149910606
Are you still using broken doctrines?
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>>149910390
>implying Rob da blob, king of all exploits and AI cheats can't do it
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>>149910737
i know this is bait but i have to
how is hearts of iron 2 a 4x game?
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What are good nations to become literal crusader kings in CK2?
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>>149910906
Darkest Hour isn't GS, It's an RTS.
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>>149910802
You think all that org came from nowhere?
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>>149910969
Jerusalem, Byzantium and Castille are all fun nation to destroy mudslimes as.
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>>149911004
how is hearts of iron 2 a 4x game
you linked a 4x game general
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>>149911065
>he cannot do it legit
Opinion discarded
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>>149911065
>>149910606
Posted wrong image.

Anyway, Paris is our capital again.
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>>149910969
>nations
>CK2
Lad?
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>>149911152
But Jerusalem isn't an option in the 1066 start
>>149911289
Characters, whatever. I don't care
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>The shitposting and straight up spam is worse now than the pre-Stellaris """Hype""" days
I hope the mods just downright delete and permanently ban all /gsg/ threads, this has gotten too pathetic.
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>>149911269
You started too late my man
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this is your map tonight
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>>149911065
Yeah this is kind of amusing.
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HPM, why isn't there an Amazonia nation yet?
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>>149911496
Where are the sources?
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>proudly posting your cheating game like you accomplished something great
Fuck off rob you cunt
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>>149911286
how the fuck is hoi2 similiar to civilization more than other paradox gs games, are you legit handicapped?
i'll stop replying to this bait because you're not even trying to make me more buttmad desu
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>>149911728
It's ironic that he refused to use trips but every time he posts he needs to identify himself
Fucking attention whore
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Based Azerbaijani Jews
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>>149911496
Amazonian is a meme culture, it includes thousands of different languages and tribes that haven't heard of eachother even today.
Or do you mean a Brazilian separatist state?
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>>149911397
1180 jerusalem
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what if that wrong thread autist is just trying to promote playing DH
i think i'll help him and start posting my Canada playthrough i just started :)
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Wait a second if I accept one I wont be able to defend the other, fuck
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>>149912536
fuck off back to 4chan
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What would be a good mega-campaign goal?

I was thinking maybe a strong Jewish levant conversion series.
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>>149912243
I guess the closest thing we will get to it is Guyana, which has Amazonian as an accepted culture.
Thanks to the lack of cores Irish was once my second largest population.
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>playing CK2 as zoroastrian king
>caliph declares war on me
>nearly won but then some hindu fag declares war on me
>win against caliph, start winning against hindu fag
>some horse nigger horde declares war on me
>win against horde but before war ends caliph dies and his heir declares war on me
DOES THIS EVER END?
just fuck my shit up i just wanted to have one succesful persian ironman fucking opportunistic AI
if at least i could get some land from won defensive wars
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>>149912536
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>>149912703
Also if you're wondering i did use console to give back territories that didn't have Amazonians in them.
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>>149912536
>4chan thinks my post is spam
I wonder why
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>>149912691
How about Jews surviving CK2+ as small merchant republic and colonizing USA in EU.

Then you become biggest colonial power rivaling England in Vicky 2
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>>149912703
Nice blob
Post map
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>>149912728
>if at least i could get some land from won defensive wars
Pls, you think you're a Jew or something?
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>>149913017
Many wars were won thanks to our British and Chilean allies.
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>>149913192
Holy fuck steamgroup just shut the fuck up

212 posts, 0 grand strategy
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>>149912703
HPM really needs to create a Guyanese culture for gameplay terms. How exactly can an European or an Asian assimilate to Afro-Caribeno or, even worse, "Amazonian"?
Neat blob tho, keep posting.
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>>149913192

It's amazing to me how steamgroup people have been consistently spending years of their life shitposting a 4chan thread on a daily basis.

Very sad.
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>>149913063
if i was i would rage quit by now
getting 350 gold for killing 20k people in defensive war is a joke
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Okay so I'm a shitter when it comes to playing poorer/bigger countries, how can I stop myself from being dominated by Japan by 1937, I've tried 4-5 times now and they always win.

I just want to play as a communist or democratic China but I cannot get past this inevitable war.
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>>149913303
Post Paraguay's score, just curious.
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that's totally worth it right
i think i'll wait for hitler to get rid of the jews from france til i buy my rightful clay from them
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So which folder do I extract the HPM folder into?
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grand strategy
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>>149913735
In order for HPM to work you have to delete the System 32 folder on your computer first.
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>>149913735
7/10
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>>149910125
The US should have colonized patagonia before the argies got to it
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How do you overcome Britain in HOI4? My Italy non-axis game has been going pretty well so far, went to war with the allies shortly after forming my faction and trying to take Greece, ended up occupying Greece fairly quickly and taking all of France in about a year's time through naval invasions and encirclement. But my problem now is that the english channel seems to be an impenetrable wall between Britain's huge navy and airforce (intel screen gives estimates of 6000+ aircraft, I have maybe 600). Anything remedy for this beyond just churning out as many ships and planes as I can to try and control the channel?

Axis went to war with them recently but they don't seem to be doing much, right now it's just a stalemate of UK throwing division after division at the French ports and getting annihilated by my defensive line
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Did I do good?
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>>149913678
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>>149914114
Based, ally them and wait until Brazil attacks again so you can give them the rest of Mato Grosso, borders will look far better then.
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>>149914095
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How do you overcome Britain in HOI4? My Italy non-axis game has been going pretty well so far, went to war with the allies shortly after forming my faction and trying to take Greece, ended up occupying Greece fairly quickly and taking all of France in about a year's time through naval invasions and encirclement. But my problem now is that the english channel seems to be an impenetrable wall between Britain's huge navy and airforce (intel screen gives estimates of 6000+ aircraft, I have maybe 600). Anything remedy for this beyond just churning out as many ships and planes as I can to try and control the channel?

Axis went to war with them recently but they don't seem to be doing much, right now it's just a stalemate of UK throwing division after division at the French ports and getting annihilated by my defensive line
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>>149913303
Gateway to the Pacific when
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>>149912531
Prussia think I cant fight two wars at once, I'll prove them wrong. I'll force them to admit hegemony and hopefully they stop being annoying
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>>149914362
>cheating
Legit run or bust.
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>>149913319
>>149913451
>>149913462
Reminder that anyone that doesn't like /gsg/ being a reddit enclave on 4chan is just le steamgruppe conspiracy maymay talex trob tmeneth tjewhan
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>>149914095
>hohols poles and other subslavs not removed
0/10
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>>149914452
Should I annex Ecuador? I kind of just wanted to leave the Andeans alone and just take their Amazonian provinces, but I was thinking how nice it would look to have some pacific ports.

Also, this just happened. Do I fix it, and how?
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>you can literally trade slaves for territory in DH
>make 3 divisions of militia which are useless
>give that + money
>1/4 claims regained without war
nice
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>>149914578
He's literally fighting all of eurasia as an african sandperson. And its not a cheat if it doesn't use the console.
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>>149914869
No, the more fucked up the US is the better.
But yeah, I don't think a blob that large would just ignore the gap of land between them and the Pacific. Find the least populares coastal provinces in the Andes and manage to fit them into your borders with no bordergore.
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>>149915154
>populares
woops, meant populated.
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>>149915523
just walk across the straight
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>>149915523
nice repost fag, nobody wants to help you
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>>149914362
Libya is annexed which leaves a lot more chinese and russians screwed.

We've formed a defensive line in France. Germans are starting to show up.
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>>149915523
BUILD LE LIQUOR FACTORIES XDD
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>>149915020
He is literally fighting whole world with bugged out doctrines.
So no.
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>>149915523
>>149915791
Stop.
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How do you overcome Britain in HOI4? My Italy non-axis game has been going pretty well so far, went to war with the allies shortly after forming my faction and trying to take Greece, ended up occupying Greece fairly quickly and taking all of France in about a year's time through naval invasions and encirclement. But my problem now is that the english channel seems to be an impenetrable wall between Britain's huge navy and airforce (intel screen gives estimates of 6000+ aircraft, I have maybe 600). Anything remedy for this beyond just churning out as many ships and planes as I can to try and control the channel?

Axis went to war with them recently but they don't seem to be doing much, right now it's just a stalemate of UK throwing division after division at the French ports and getting annihilated by my defensive line
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How do you overcome Britain in HOI4? My Italy non-axis game has been going pretty well so far, went to war with the allies shortly after forming my faction and trying to take Greece, ended up occupying Greece fairly quickly and taking all of France in about a year's time through naval invasions and encirclement. But my problem now is that the english channel seems to be an impenetrable wall between Britain's huge navy and airforce (intel screen gives estimates of 6000+ aircraft, I have maybe 600). Anything remedy for this beyond just churning out as many ships and planes as I can to try and control the channel?

Axis went to war with them recently but they don't seem to be doing much, right now it's just a stalemate of UK throwing division after division at the French ports and getting annihilated by my defensive line
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>>149913735
The mods folder. Default is Victoria 2/mod folder, but I think there's a version that doesn't like that too much.
https://steamcommunity.com/app/42960/discussions/0/846945955372640657/

>>149776248
Yeah the map has the claims (and should note when they are claims or not) but they did own Herat for a shortwhile.

Yeah, Askhabad was the name of a settlement nearby, the russians founded the modern city with the same name.

I will come back to finish the deserts in central asia next update, so I will take a look a better look at claims.

The problem is making good shapes and I'd have to add yet another province to Turkmenistan, which isn't that necessary.

I will change the name to Kyzyl-Su.

>>149777168
Yeah, the provinces there are kinda fucked. I still didn't get there and when I get, I will change stuff. Problem is getting a good city name for the province west of the delta.

>Otherwise, a, event to get the uncolonized parts (Kysyl-su/Bereket) of Turkmenia if you own all the others provinces (as Russia early conquest, Persia or Khiva) would be good, on the model of your Conquer The South or Dji Bouti Protectorate decisions - a reward for an unciv that went forward and wouldn't let almost empty fertile areas if they had full control over the region.
I will do something about this too though I wouldn't call Kysyl-su fertile.

>By the way, what did you think of implementing centralization in a way or another?
I really never thought about it, I guess it could help a few uncivs. I don't know.
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>>149915020
Why do you keep talking about yourself in third person all the time?
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>>149913603
This.
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>>149915974
HPM, thoughts on creating an Amazonia nation? I've been playing as Guyana and uniting the Amazonians since Guyana has them as an accepted culture as you can see if you scroll up.
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>>149916019
just draw some arrows and patrol with a single destroyer at the last minute to initiate the invasion

Navies are useless
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>>149915974
How do you overcome Britain in HOI4? My Italy non-axis game has been going pretty well so far, went to war with the allies shortly after forming my faction and trying to take Greece, ended up occupying Greece fairly quickly and taking all of France in about a year's time through naval invasions and encirclement. But my problem now is that the english channel seems to be an impenetrable wall between Britain's huge navy and airforce (intel screen gives estimates of 6000+ aircraft, I have maybe 600). Anything remedy for this beyond just churning out as many ships and planes as I can to try and control the channel?

Axis went to war with them recently but they don't seem to be doing much, right now it's just a stalemate of UK throwing division after division at the French ports and getting annihilated by my defensive line
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>>149915974
See >>149913352
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>>149916289
Are there any precedents for this?
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>>149916491
Yeah, I discussed this a while ago. Either that or put them in "North andean" with Colombia and Venezuela.
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>>149916518
drop the trip attention whore
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>>149913352
How can a European assimilate into Haitian?
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>>149916518
No I don't think so, they would be uncivilized or even primitive but I thought it would be neat.
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Anyway, here's an update.

Historical Project Mod - Version 0.3.5.5 for HOD 3.04 - 29/07/2016. Save Game Compatible with saves from version 0.3.5.3 onward. All minimods are NOT compatible. Probably.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/czqzwqnswmo4km0/HPM%200.3.5.5.7z

Mirror: https://mega.nz/#!aABCzARa!4DfzJ9cCVV4EvavXVNfbumW1qDcNO3Q1Gde0QdSzPTc


Changelog:
-Fixed the adjacency between Penghu and Taiwan.
-S-P should start with All Allowed Rights now.
-Fixed the "Establish the Kaitakushi" decision so you can take it if the shogunate made a peaceful transition to Japan.
-Fixed one more instance where Tokyo/Edo would get a pop growth modifier until the end of the game.
-Fixed the Sino-Portuguese treaty event chain giving Qing a status quo CB. Again.
-"All Allowed Rights" should give a very small decrease in militancy for non accepted pops now.
-You shouldn't be able to release New England and immediately get them to join you again to burn some infamy for free.
-The Annexation of Tahiti event will now only happen in the 1880's.
-USA: Changed the Democrats to be Pro Military instead of Jingoistic and the Whigs to be Anti-Military, based on their stances over Manifest Destiny and the future Democrat anti-imperialism policy.
-Fixed a bug that would allow Russia to integrate Transcaucasia if you formed it externally.
-Gateway to America modifier for New York will now only last 5 years instead of forever.
-Reworked late game RGO flips in the tea decision for UK and a few invention output bonuses.
-Made sure joining the Argentinean substates in Argentina through decision doesn't leave any land behind. Except for the Falklands.
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>>149916679
HPM why Carlists cannot sell Cuba to USA?

Also if you dont get cores on Cuba when buying it... why bother in the first place?
Also South Africa is still getting barely any migrants to it, why not give it a New World modifier or something?
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>>149915523
hoi4 is literally the easiest game ever
if you can't destroy everyone at the same time while italy ai fucks up your warscore then you might as well play checkers
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>>149916842
What's the difference between uncivilized and primitive? I don't mean by the game mechanic but what they respresent IRL.
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>>149916842
Well, I don't think it has much ground to be in then. Sorry.

>>149917010
>HPM why Carlists cannot sell Cuba to USA?
Probably something related to them being less liberal? I didn't make the decision/events.

>Also if you dont get cores on Cuba when buying it... why bother in the first place?
Free land.

>Also South Africa is still getting barely any migrants to it, why not give it a New World modifier or something?
They only get it temporarily through the Boer Republic decision, which is what was originally intended in NNM.
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>>149916971
HPM did you try NWO?
What do you think about Election ideas they implemented or Head of State event?
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>>149916679
This is unrelated to your mod but I've run into a wall with a mod of my own (for EU3, not V2, but the game share many similiarities) and I was wondering if you've done much map modding so you might have a clue what I'm doing wrong.

I've shrunk the EU3 map down to Europe, but the game keeps crashing on "creating rivers". I've deleted the cache and all the resized maps align with each other to pixel perfection. I read that rivers.bmp and terrain.bmp are indexed images and might not work if edited with Paint.NET but I tried editing both in GIMP so I wouldn't fuck up the index but that didn't work either.

Any idea what causes crashes on "creating rivers"? There's no crashlog to read.
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>>149914462
>no cav
>no art
>still winning against an enemy that is almost five times your strength
Ah yes, now I see BELIEVABLE WORLDS
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>>149915602
>>149915607
>>149915741
>>149915841
>>149917150
You people are why /gsg/ is fucking shit
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>>149916019
>Anything remedy for this beyond just churning out as many ships and planes as I can to try and control the channel?

No, you don't even need that many planes, england doesn't have 6000 fighters, and even then they're not gonna be all in europe, make about 2000 fighters and release them all in 80-100 plane squads at the same time.

You should have control of the mediterranean by now (if you don't then get it), build all kinds of ships until they total 100 or so (remember to set them all to deploy to the same spot). Then make as many convoys as you can and then invade them, if you invade them with a few 24 regiment armies you should be good.

I did this as Germany once and it worked.
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>>149917224
Never tried, so I can't give an opinion on it.

You mean the PDM election events and modifier-minister stuff? The stuff that's in NNM?

>>149917262
I wouldn't use GIMP as it cause that same problem for me. Some people report some success with Paint.Net but I prefer Photoshop because I know it works.

Anyway, it sounds like one of the "software fucked up the .bmp" problems. Compare the RGOs form your modified version with the original (if you can) and see if anything changed.
Keep in mind that if you saved it in GIMP first and then opened up in Paint.Net and saved it again it wouldn't solve the problem, the only way to solve is to re-do your work in a program that doesn't fuck with the game bitmap files.
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>>149917401
There was art ofc, it didnt count it for some reason. And I think I dont need cav for defending?
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>>149917220
>They only get it temporarily through the Boer Republic decision
But thats not historical mate...they didnt get migration boost for short while and IRL and ignored until 1936. Make it a trickle but make it happen.
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>>149917436
ok lad, to invade britain all you need is to get 20 or so soldiers onto their little isle because it is basically unprotected, i did it by pure luck
>set up naval invasion(s)
>finish preparation time so it can be employed at a moments notice
>send all my planes and boats that i've made in the meantime to wrest control of one of the sea areas necessary for my naval invasion(s) to pass through
>obviously it didn't work at first so i just kept making infinite planes and boats and sending them over and over
>i eventually had control for long enough to send one group of soldiers in
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>>149916971
amm integration when?
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>>149917583
I've tried it both from scratch, editing the source with GIMP and P.NET and neither worked unfortunately. I'm basing the mod off an existing mapmod so I can only assume that the author didn't 'flatten' the .bmp because his mod works as it should - using the base files won't work unfortunately because the guy redrawed the map using a different projection so the rivers.bmp wouldn't align with the other files.

I know fuck all about image editing, what do you mean by comparing the RGOs?
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>>149917676
I need some sources on South Africa getting (non colonial) migration in significant numbers in the first place, during the time frame.

>>149917935
In the next big update.
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>>149918104
Well i didnt say massive numbers for starters.
I just say that 0 migrants when you end up being a welfare state is simply ridiculous.
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>>149916971
>Yet another update this month
It's painful to migrate all my saves settings and edits over to the new version each time, and then test to make sure I didn't break anything. Can you stop or at least say if you're not expecting to have any more updates in the near future?
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>>149916971
Lets see...is this NMM thing?

There is no advantage to being a Republic over Monarchy unless you count Migration which only works for New World.
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>>149916971
"changed some late-game RGO flips in the tea decision", does that imply that you're leaving some of the biggest wool producers in and not changing them to tea?
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>>149918452
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>>149916971
If you hate lategame wool production so much why don't you change colonizable and New World provinces that will get immigrants like Patagonia to something other than wool?
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>>149916679
>North Andean
That makes even less sense 2bh
The whole idea of a Guyanese nation is odd really, there's no actual Guyanese nationality during the timeframe. It's just a bunch of natives who are outnumbered and have very few in common, freed Caribbean slaves, actual slaves in Suriname, more Caribbeans, some Europeans from English, Dutch and French heritage, South Asian economic migrants, Indonesians and a lot that can fit into at least 2 of those. It's an odd thing to work with really.
Also, about South African migration, about 900k Europeans (so not even counting the Chinese and Indian minorities they ended up with) went to South Africa from the 1880s to 1930. Even if most were British in the Cape, they never get anywhere near that amount in that period as the UK has too many colonies, and Europeans would go to an independent South Africa either way.
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>>149918635
Etc...bunch of new events.
Instead of me linking it maybe you should try it out. Hour or two of checking the mod wont hurt, wont it? Who knows, you might find something in it worthwhile too.

Also is it possible to reduce life needs for soldiers only by a modifier for uncivs?
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How do I get out of a presidential dictatorship? Also r8 my P-B.
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>>149918908
Pass reforms n*gger (nagger)
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>>149918908
>>149919018
mad reforms for almost losing three fucking wars in a 3 year span
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>>149918081

I didn't mean RGO, I meant RGB. Sorry about that.

Is the map size the same as the original one? Did you change the number of provinces or something?

Try using photoshop and see if the same problem happens. Alternatively, get the working map, change a border a little bit, and save in paint.net and try to run, just to be sure the problem isn't in paint.net.

>>149918272
They are in the same foot as the rest of the world, really. I didn't say massive either, just significant.

>>149918347
You could use winmerge for quick comparison and updating. I'm terribly sorry but I can't know in advance how many quick patches will come, people don't usually report problems at the same time.

>>149918452
>>149918635
Yeah, it's the PDM election events. I removed it because it was quite spammy. I could try to add unemployment and other issues in the normal election events so less events would repeat and more issues could be choosen, but I'm not re-adding these events back.

>>149918623
Yeah, along with silk IIRC.

>>149918843
Yeah, it doesn't fit well because they don't share the same root culture. Though Guyana is a bit small so I wanted to avoid a new culture for them.

> there's no actual Guyanese nationality during the timeframe.
I know that, but as with post-colonial cultures, they need to start existing.

>Also, about South African migration, about 900k Europeans (so not even counting the Chinese and Indian minorities they ended up with) went to South Africa from the 1880s to 1930.
Through non colonial migration?
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>>149919083
>Political Parties
>Only Underground
>wonders why people see you as a dictatorship
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>>149919149
>Through non colonial migration?
Pretty sure most were British, but they never get this amount of British pops, even the Cape ends up +70% Khoisan. Also, it seems weird an independent South Africa would just ignore the European people leaving to settle in the New World instead of taking advantage of the situation.
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>>149919271
But that literally doesn't matter when it comes to being considered a Republic.

t. Putin
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>>149919149
If theyre spammy cannot you simply add tags on them so like...only a part of them triggers?
Like 2 or 3 triggers top and trigger prevents more of them to show up.
Both in HPM and Vicky 2 elections are quite...limited actually. Having a party you dont like and just spamming elections over and over well...i cannot imagine any ruling party doing that.

Standard/Emergency/Early elections should be well...rarer but more important.
Right now theyre only good for getting Jingoism.
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>>149919594
Pretty sure the other parties in Russia aren't actually banned from getting involved in elections.
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>>149919594
A republic can still be dictatorship you stupid nigger
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>>149919661
>Right now theyre only good for getting Jingoism.
sounds like...a good deal to me...if you know what i am saying
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>>149919149
I don't know if I've just never seen it or if it doesn't exist, but why does the American-Spanish (t. Don Carlos) War never happen as it should? The Philippines are usually a Spanish holding straight through to 1935 without player intervention.
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>>149919149
Here is my South Africa during a massive European war.
Everyone is bleeding pops yet nobody wants to come.
I have about 80% of social and all political reforms.
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>>149919149
Yeah, changed the map from 5616x2160 to 1544x1393. As far as I know the game engine has a problem with maps that are too big, but it shouldn't have a problem with smaller maps. At the moment there's only three provinces - it's easier to test that way because the province numbers are scattered all over the place since they added new provinces to Europe in later patches so the cleanest way to do it would be to start from scratch.

That's taken care of though - I've edited the history files, flagfiles, definitions, locations, adjacencies, all that - at the moment there's just one playable test province, one big ocean and the rest is wasteland.

The RGBs seem to have the same values or at least follow the same patterns, 0 255 0 being the end of a river, 255 0 0 being the start of an inland river etc. Left is the vanilla rivers and right is the mod one.

I was hoping I wouldn't have to redo all of this with the vanilla files just to confirm one possible bug because it's a lot of work, but it looks like it's either that or scrapping the mod.
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>I am an expert on politics, economics and history because i play Liquoria 2
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>>149919880
Too many of them damn negroes, man.
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>>149919714
Not in Victoria 2 lad
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>>149919880
according to liquoria 2 you need to be in america to get immigrants

but you can just pretend they don't wanna come because of the niggers
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>>149919948
>I sometimes cheat in GS games
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>>149919976
>>149920202
The Confederacy has just as many negroes yet europeans flock to the South if they're independent.

Also Scandinavian cultures should get an emigration bonus to S.A.
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How did I do?
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>i occasionally play as secondary powers
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>>149920213
>>149920381
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>>149920310
Needs pacific colonies
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>Reduce USA to 4 states
>They still get more immigrants than anyone else
The reason they got so many was because their country was so Groß, if they lose enough provinces they should also lose their OP national value.
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>>149920310
should've taken Louisiana and the west coast up to Alaska for El Mexico Groso
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>>149920310
Absolutely great desu
Why didn't you spam capital ships to boost your score though? And do you have any colonies?
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reminder that they are among us
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=muqYPFCJhM0
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>>149920145
That's just stupid.
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>>149920672
>El Mexico Groso
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>>149920684
I built all the dreadnoughts I could, and didn't want to spend money on battleships. No colonies besides the stuff in the Caribbean
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>>149919548
Well I really can't do much about where the british choose to settle, though I feel they shouldn't choose India as much.

>t seems weird an independent South Africa would just ignore the European people leaving to settle in the New World instead of taking advantage of the situation.
If we go with that we can use that argument for any colonial nation, or any nation really.


>>149919661
> Having a party you dont like and just spamming elections over and over well...i cannot imagine any ruling party doing that.
Well, you are supposed to use the "encourage loyalty" NF to tip the scales in the favor of the party you want.

>>149919832
It does exist. I guess it's because it only has a 10 years time span to happen. There's a lot of prerequisites (as Cuba having high militancy/rebels) too.

>>149919880
You can argue the same thing to any country really. France can have all social reforms and europe can be bleeding pops but they will still choose the new world because that was the historical trend. If I add South Africa as an exception, then I would have add the same exception for Angola, Mozambique, Congo, etc. The same logic would apply. This would defeat the purpose of the new world trend the game focus on and would detract from their immigrants too. South Africa will keep being treated as any colonial nation.

>>149919905
RGB will follow the same pattern, the important thing is to check if the program is changing something, and RGB is a sign of that. That's why I said to compare two maps (original and unmodded) if you can. Since you can't do that, I'd recommend changing a small thing and testing to see if Paint.Net is causing the problem.

The game might also have a minimum size for the map.
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>>149920310
>Mexico

>>149919149
Hey HPM if Mexico wins against USA (and establishes itself as actual North American contender) how come it cannot repeal its immigration act for more immigrants?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/General_Colonization_Law

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Law_of_April_6,_1830

War is won.
USA lost its claim.
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How does HOI 4 compare to Darkest Hour?
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>>149921138
No Kaiserreich, 0/10.
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Is it just me or do rebellions not reduce militancy for uncivs?
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>>149921124
What immigration act?
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>>149921060
hey HPM, would it be possible to let secondary powers build the canals?
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>>149921257
When a semi-constitutional monarchy has universal voting, it cannot change to a constitutional monarchy without regressing to weighted universal (or wealth, one of the two). Is this working as intended?
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Wine is actually better than liquor though
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Can we all agree migration is fucked in HPM and he doesn't seem to want to fix it?
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>>149921257
Imperial Colonization Law was made in 1823 but it was repealed shortly after due to political instability and USA claim problems.

If Mexico actually stabilizes and forces USA to renounce its claims how come they cannot re implement the law again?
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>>149921060
I might've found the issue - there are some stray bad pixels - could this lead to crashes? I'm trying to hunt them down but it'd be a real kick in the dick to have endless crashes because a single bad pixel is hiding somewhere on the map.
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>>149921060
What about creating a "resettlement colony" modifier that gives the region +50% immigrant attraction and removes the colonial exploitation related modifier? That way the British would actually go to Singapore, South Africa, Australia, New Zealand, Canada and Rhodesia before their indepencence instead of having 50k British pops in a couple of Bengal provinces with +3m pops.
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Kaiserreich mod for HOI4?
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>>149921879
Yeah but that didn't happen. What's your point? We could have million of "what ifs" if we looked up further.
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TURKED
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>>149922228
>im obviously blind
Chris Chan pls.
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>>149921030
>Mahayana 1.7% with no Asian colonies
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>>149922352
>Persia
F
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>>149922476
China civilized

I've literally got a Han majority in some of my uncored states
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>>149908270
>and gives extremely small bonuses
That's an understatement. The base tree is better than any of the specialized trees anyways. You can turn literally any country into a powerhouse with it. If anything, the specialized trees are more of a detriment than a bonus.
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>>149922228
What a dumb thing to say - that's what adds fun to simulation games, what do you want a historical simulator or something? HPM should add historical plausibility for flavor. You're being to technical and one dimensional quite of a shame desu.
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>>149922643
That culture map is pretty neat actually. How did you survive your first war against the US?
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>>149922802
not him but I'm playing a mexico game and survived with an alliance to GB
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>>149922802
debug yesmen :^)
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>>149922802
Allied Britain
They called in Prussia
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>>149922802
You ally yourself with GB and fight USA in mountains anon.
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>>149922753
That's not him, newfriend.
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>>149921879
Actually to add on this HPM >>149921257 how can USA get such a good homestead act if they lose vs Mexico. All that tasty land is gone.
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>>149922980
>bait 30k americans into attacking me across a river into the mountains
>immediately reinforce to a 2-1 numerical advantage
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>>149922980
t. 100% war exhaustion pro
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>>149923140
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QZ43eKaWmWw
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>>149923128
All that tasty land being gone is ahistorical to begin with. Go play robmod if you love those brown shits south of the border so much.
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>>149923146
t. no west coast pro

>>149923128
It's really not a big deal. Between Canada, you, the CSA, and New England, the USA doesn't get ridiculous immigration if you cuck them enough

My Mexico is more populated than the USA
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>>149922228
The game is about "what ifs" if you like railroading so much, look at a map or watch a documentary
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In HOI4 can you not do aircraft missions while the carrier is on a mission? Do you have to split off the carriers and set them to hold to deploy aircraft?
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>>149923441
It's still retarded since most of the land they'd give to immigrants aren't even there though.
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>>149923441
Id say bigger deal is that dumbass Americans keep attacking neigbours and that -150% migration comes in.
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Also, the Native Protection Act is god tier as Mexico. A ton of your pops are abos, and you can integrate Guatemala pretty easily since they're mostly Mayan
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>>149921854
YES

I guess it's because of the new immigration stuff

desu I'm gonna stay on an older version until it looks like it's fixed
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>>149923787
>mentioning Native Protection act
Welp,there goes the nerf.
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>>149923881
What nerf? Also Mexico pops in 1836. Almost 50% native

>>149922228
HPM, there should be an event that removes Texan from the accepted cultures of USA and CSA if they lose cores/lose Texas
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>>149923787
>allied with USA and CSA
You didnt take your cores from reverse manifest destiny or what
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>>149924132
>what nerf
Well if you point it out more HPM will take notice and rewrite act so specific nations get more specific natives.
Solely to fuck up Guatemala 4 u.
Golden Circle CSA went down the drain already.
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>>149924167
HPM changed that. I don't have any cores on US land and they have no cores on me
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>>149922228
In older versions rhodesia would actually get enough brits to warrant the rhodesia tag, but lately it seems there's hardly any colonial migration at all. This is also a problem in the US, where their frontier is filled up 100% by immigrants who assimilate to yankee rather than actual yankees. You were doing some stuff with unemployment and now that it's down, people don't seem to migrate resulting in weirdly low colonial migration.

Can anything be done about this? Pops are the most fun part of the game
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>>149924312
Wait what?
You mean he removed all the cores you used to get there or something?
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How do you deal with going up against a GP if your not as strong manpower wise? All my allies usually don't join my wars (even defensive ones) and even of I give the AI tons of casualties they just keep sending more stacks against me
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>>149924302
To be honest it's kind of silly there's no decision to get cores on Central America. Mexico owned most of it literally 13 years before game start
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>>149924538
Yes

Didn't you know >H>P>M was the "No Fun Allowed" of Victoria 2 mods?
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>>149924585
yeah and spain owned the majority of south america just a few years prior, too
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>>149924538
You just "get" to keep the cores you had already

>>149924683
There's already a decision to reinstate the Mexican Empire. I don't see how it's such a big stretch to add decisions or events for recreating its borders
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HPM tries too hard go play DBZ or something 4chan senpai
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>>149924821
trob
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>>149924585
Whole Central America...no.

But Guatemala was part of Mexico for a while and it was supported by conservatives.

How come Mexico cannot reincorporate them?
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>>149924821
what
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I'm severely retarded and have gotten BTFO on /gsg/ often.
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>>149925330
t urkslayer
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i think gsg is having a stroke right now
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>>149925459
It has been constantly for the last month.
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Why did HPM set factory minimum maintenance to 0.50?
What does this do
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>new HPM
>migration is broken
>economy is back to its usual broken self
Ah yes bravo
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>>149925459
>right now
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fuck off rob
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Maybe everyone's being a dick about it but criticizing HPM isn't a bad thing to do, of there's something wrong with it then yeah people should point it out and talk about it. I'm sure HPM doesn't want his mod to be shit either.
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Rate
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>>149926161
Except right now its 1 guy shitposting about most of HPM.
Chris Chan didnt work so now he shitposts in a different way.
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>>149925459
/gsg/ is literally the worst general on /vg/
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>>149916971

>click on decisions
>game crashes
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>the only other modders beside Alex are memers who are too lazy to make anything even half decent

I just want someone to take the good parts of HPM without the shitty nofun changes he felt the need to throw in for the sake of "historical realism," and do what is possible within the confines of Vicky2 to improve POP management (assimilation, migration/colonial migration, etc) and make so that it is actually possible for uncivs to not get fucked up by rebels the second their militancy goes above 5.0
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What's the strategy for boosting literacy asap?
>focus clergy to 4%
>research education efficiency techs
>pass schooling social reform
Anything I'm forgetting?
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>>149922228
>everyone thinking this is HPM
wew
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>>149926497
end serfdom/peonage
end slavery
end child labor
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>>149926497
"no"
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>>149926497
Get your country admin efficiency to 100% first.
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>>149921570
It would but I'd rather leave it for GPs. Keeps the pressure.

>>149921662
trigger = {
government = prussian_constitutionalism
OR = {
political_parties = secret_ballots
political_parties = non_secret_ballots
}
civilized = yes
OR = {
vote_franschise = universal_weighted_voting
vote_franschise = universal_voting
}
}

It doesn't work like that. To change it needs weighted universal or universal, both work.


>>149921879
I'm not sure I'm following.

Seems like the general colonization law that allows people to move in. Since they start with open borders (and don't start with any barriers to immigration, really), doesn't that mean that they already start with the law?

>>149921936
Yes, but stray bad pixels CAN be a sign that the program fucked up, which is a bigger problem.

>>149922009
Canada, Australia and New Zealand do have something like that at the start, would be trivial to add to other places.

>>149923128
They still have quite a bit of land even without that. They lose the Homestead act if they don't have at least 3 states or if they get landlocked.
At one point the Homestead Act will become temporary though.
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>>149926367
>What is /ksg/ or /meg/
At least we occasionaly mention our games
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>>149927076
>/meg/
Wew lad. Haven't been there in months.
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>>149925673
How is migration broken?
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>>149927076
Why hasn't /gsg/ colonized /ksg/ yet? It's our rightful clay.
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>>149927220
someone posted about it earlier. don't know the specifics

>>149923821
>>149921854
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>>149927225
/gsg/ can't even colonize /his/ or /r/paradoxplaza, we've lost any outside cores by now desu
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>>149927220
There's pretty much no colonial migration at all for smaller countries, don't you keep track of your own mod? Fucking idiot.

I guess you love ahistorical games with ridiculously large native populations by 1935 right?
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>>149927220
>>149924338
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>>149927391
/ksg/ has far less posters and thinks far alike desu
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>>149927392
>>149924338
>>149927416
Is this why USA has always been uncharacteristically weak in my games lately?
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>>149927171
likewise.
feels bad man
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>>149926937
Mexico tried to do its own Homestead act but it required too much money and nation was in chaos.
Basically after going republic Americans started colonizing Texas and Mexico changed its laws in very harsh ways to prevent this which greatly reduced its appeal to new immigrants.
Basically Mexico should get less migrants on start, it normalizes in 1860s and they get Homestead kind of decision to populate land if they win Manifest Destiny.

Otherwise all that land USA gets to colonize ends up quite sparse during Mexico and people flock to Homesteaded USA pop dense provinces - exacly the ones Homestead act was not aimed at.
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>>149927416
I could but that'd break the balance of pops moving to Canada which then would cause assimilation problems with an independent Canada so I'd rather not.
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>>149924538
The refute "manifest destiny" used to give full cores in two states that only had partial cores. Now it only gives cores in what they start with , instead of giving additional free cores. It never gave cores up to Columbia.

>>149926403
Usually a sign of wrong patch/mod combination.

>>149927365
The only changes to migration is that unemployed people are more likely to migrate and pops in provinces with less than 500 people won't migrate.

>>149927392
>>149927416
The changes encourage immigration, not discourage it. The effect would be the reverse.
I also remember someone's Sindh game where they got a lot of colonial migration.
Do you have any screens of what's like?

>>149927547
Colonial migration wouldn't affect that.
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>>149927547
Maybe
I don't think so though, all that's happening is nobody leaves the east coast. I'm noticing the same amount of euro immigrants to the US so pops should be the same. I don't know if HPM has archives of his older versions but you could do two test games and see how high US populations are for each of them
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how do I fix this?
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>>149927920
Annex Sweden or get annexed by Germany
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>>149927920
>587
lad clean out your screenshots folder
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>>149927786
I'll do an observe game and take some screenshots
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>>149927786
Thoughts on a Greater Mexico decision?
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>>149928221
It's on the plans. No cores, only CBs.
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>>149927920
>Zulu westernize
>they cannot lay claim on South Africa to kick Europeans out and make an Empire.

But seriously why even give Zulu special modifier if they dont get anything later.
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>>149927920
>that literacy
>that industry
>that score
lmao, what's the point of blobbing when you can't administrate your territory?
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>>149926251
Hue/10
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Virgin wizards of /gsg/, I need your advice. As you can see it's 1888 and industrialization has been going far too slow. I'm not sure how to industrialize fast as USA (or any other nation for that matter). How can I industrialize quickly in vanilla besides the usual shit as building liquor (USA starts out with conservatives anyway) and getting your literacy up?

tl;dr: how to industrialize
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>>149928221
>>149924612
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>>149928341
Zulu westernizing is such a weird fucking thought
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>>149928341
Are they literally incapable of justifying a CB?
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>>149926907
Why? To help increase pop promotion to clergy faster?
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>>149928329
How are you going to give CBs with no cores?

Why not simply remove cores after each state is taken like how Japanese cores on Korea dissapear?
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>>149928387
uhh... did Germany get the meme Congo Free State event?
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>>149928478
Yeah seriously what's with all the demand for flavor and railroading for a fuckton of arbitrary shit
Game mechanics exist for a reason
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>>149928491
From what I understand, high admin efficiency makes your "encourage X pop promotion" NFs more effective
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>>149928341
They even keep the same skin for their brigades regardless of how far your techs go or what it's composed of. I'm pretty sure they don't get new skins even with the techs with tooltips saying it should change skins.
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>>149928147
Thanks, that will help.

What could cause something is that more pops are deciding to leave rather than colonial migrate, but that doesn't sense in the US as they already have a big malus to not leave.

The changes I made increase colonial migration, not decrease it, and are only related to unemployment.

>>149927613
Alright, I will do something about it.
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>>149928727
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>>149928604
Wiki says it affects all pop promotion. I Might restart as brazil then because I kept my admin spending at zero for the longest time and was wondering why my NF clergy was working so poorly
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>gsg still circlejerking about Victoria II

Just fucking kill yourselves, autists
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>>149928881
They weren't really westernized tho
also, the skin guy is litearally holding a spear barefoot.
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>>149928435
sphere lots of uncivs
encourage bureaucrats and craftsmen
subsidize
either reduce taxes for rich pops or check the "projects" tab and pay off whatever's in there (only necessary if capitalists are having a hard time producing money fast enough to build projects)
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>>149928887
You should have it at max, at least until you get 100% efficiency
Personally I prefer to encourage clergy first while increasing admin spending, then encourage bureaucrats after i get 2% clergy in every state
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>>149928918
>circlejerking
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>>149928794
Thanks man.
Also having Maximilian on the throne...wouldnt that encourage people from big monarchies to go to Mexico?

On the other hand Brazil also has a monarch so its kinda a moot point.
>>149928997
You dont say. Well Arabs didnt unite but we can still do it. Only thing we cannot do is build rafts as uncivs because CLIPPERS
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>>149928918
Not our fault they wasted the best historical scenary for a grand strategy game with fucking EU4.
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>>149928573
>Game mechanics exist for a reason
The point is Victoria 2 is shit for simulating anything that hasn't been railroaded into place by an event chain. That's why all the GPs need to have free event casus bellis to take their historical conquests instead of everything being more emergent like CK2 or EU.

>Taking Kamchatka (Not even the whole Russian East-coast, that takes 44+ infamy) or a single Dutch Carribean island that has been made a state costs the same infamy as Brittany, a third of Portugal or South-West England
Excellent mechanics desu.
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>>149929043
>sphere lots of uncivs
What does this do?
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>>149929075
Hello 4chan
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What are some fun goals to try for in CK2 other than just blobbing? I know the game is deeper than that but I'm feeling uninspired at the moment. Can anyone help with that? I'm playing Finland. My previous king just died and my new one lost Sweden and Estonia in the succession, which I plan to get back, but otherwise I think my Suomi is Große enough. Wat do?
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>>149929075
>reddit is bad
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>>149929114
>tfw no Mexican-Brazilian royal marriage
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>>149929064
I always assumed 'encourage buerocrats' was just a /gsg/ meme
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>>149913352
>>149914452
I have returned. I expanded a little west, a little east.
Apparently communism in Latin Americais the new cool thing to do, Paraguay, Argentina, Uruguay, Peru, and Cuba are all Proletariat Dictatorships but I'm still a constitutional monarchy.
I am finally getting cores from my core integration.
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>>149929254
reddit is based
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>>149928570
Hanover
it's an old version
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>>149929254
That AMA was garbage desu
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>>149929363
nice blob
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Why can't I give money to the Qing Empire in exchange for thousands of Chinese immigrants to enrich my country? Serious question.

I want to achieve the multicultural dream and while millions of people are already in China, I don't have any access to them. Not really historical.
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>>149929510
Its all rightful Amazonian territory.
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>>149929262
>Maximilian
>royal marriage
Wasnt he married to Belgian princess?
Id more argue its a shame there is no Mexican-Belgian cooperation act or something.
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>>149927220
>he admits the economy is broken
epic
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>>149929467
Wasn't he flying in a plane?

also the ledditors downboated it to hell
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>>149929206
The "shared domestic market" system thing. Uncivs mostly produce only RGO basic goods which means that if you sphere them you have a guaranteed market for factory produced goods which can help with profitability if the world market is glutted with them. It also gives you guaranteed access to potentially rare RGO resources like rubber. More populous uncivs, and those with more desirable RGOs, are of course better.
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>>149929541
>why can't I do slave trade with the Chinese in the 20th century
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>>149929624
>spoiler
Apparently it a combination of bots and reddit's buttfucked retarded popularity system made it so that the AMA never got the front page even if you were only subscribed to niche subreddits
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>>149927391
>losing cores
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>>149929114
>Also having Maximilian on the throne...wouldnt that encourage people from big monarchies to go to Mexico?
Weren't people trying to escape from monarchies for more political rights or because they were jacobins?

>>149928727
Wonder why Paradox did this.
I will try to fix it for the next version.

Anyway, it's pretty late. Good night /gsg/.
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>>149929669
>Early Chinese mariners had a variety of contacts with Kenya. Archaeologists have found Chinese porcelains made during the Tang dynasty (618-907) in Kenyan villages; however, these were believed to have been brought over by Zheng He during his 15th century ocean voyages.[17] On Lamu Island off the Kenyan coast, local oral tradition maintains that 20 shipwrecked Chinese sailors, possibly part of Zheng's fleet, washed up on shore there hundreds of years ago. Given permission to settle by local tribes after having killed a dangerous python, they converted to Islam and married local women. Now, they are believed to have just six descendants left there; in 2002, DNA tests conducted on one of the women confirmed that she was of Chinese descent. Her daughter, Mwamaka Sharifu, later received a PRC government scholarship to study traditional Chinese medicine (TCM) in China.[18][19] On Pate Island, Frank Viviano described in a July 2005 National Geographic article how ceramic fragments had been found around Lamu which the administrative officer of the local Swahili history museum claimed were of Chinese origin, specifically from Zheng He's voyage to East Africa. The eyes of the Pate people resembled Chinese and Famao and Wei were some of the names among them which were speculated to be of Chinese origin. Their ancestors were said to be from indigenous women who intermarried with Chinese Ming sailors when they were shipwrecked. Two places on Pate were called "Old Shanga", and "New Shanga", which the Chinese sailors had named. A local guide who claimed descent from the Chinese showed Frank a graveyard made out of coral on the island, indicating that they were the graves of the Chinese sailors, which the author described as "virtually identical", to Chinese Ming dynasty tombs, complete with "half-moon domes" and "terraced entries"

>Chinese having sex with skinny black savages
This is my fetish.
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>>149929280
If the majority of your population is primary/accepted, you can achieve a high % clergy more rapidly by encouraging bureaucrats up to 100% national admin efficiency and then switching to clergy.
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>>149929669
But these Chinese were already slaves in that time period.
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>>149929669
>why can't I get historical Chinese immigrants to work on my damn railroads
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>>149929280
it's a meme because there are time where it's good advice, so retards will spam it whenever anyone asks a question
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>>149929668
Uncivs don't give you a market, they just give you a source of good because due to the lack of tech in uncivs, their RGOs pay their workers like shit and they have basically no money to buy anything besides their life needs.
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>>149929467
I love how like 90% of the q&a was just really unfunny forced memes.

I also like that people actually wasted money giving him reddit gold.
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>>149929791
>Weren't people trying to escape from monarchies for more political rights or because they were jacobins
Some did.
Most did because they were poor and with no prosperous life in sight.
Take Irish for instance - not jacobins but starving.
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>>149929884
>it's a meme because there are time where it's good advice
So are liquor factories

Seriously, there's pretty much no situation where it's a bad idea to build one in every state.
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>>149928549
>How are you going to give CBs with no cores?
>how do the vanilla colonial war events work?
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>>149902767
that pic doesn't have any mods recommended for hoi3. Any good alt-history or ww1 mods?
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>>149929624
>also the ledditors downboated it to hell
not really
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>>149930018
HOIIII doesn't have any good mods
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>>149930016
>shitposting for the sake of shitposting
Leave banter to HPM laddie.

Also no cores on Central America will do funky things with immigrants.
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>>149930071
when i checked it was only like 40% upboated
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>>149930018
>mods
>hoi3
pick one and only one
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>>149930130
Like what?
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>>149930018
black ice is hpm for hoi
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>>149930250
Like give noncored land to USA and see for yourself instead of trying to argue when you dont know shit
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>>149929669
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coolie

:)
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>>149930364
>he can't explain it
Really makes you think.
Why would you think having uncored land would fuck up something?
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>>149930134
63%, there was probably a raid. Also apparently reddit can decide to "remove" points from posts, that thread had a shitload of replies, there's no way only around 3k people upvoted/downvoted it, specially considering the average thread in /r/the_donald has around 1.5k upvotes. Also, if we go by the screenshot of that thread with the meme tabs posted here yesterday, 20k people had voted on it, wether up or down, within an hour. It's definitely the admin/mods' doing.
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>>149930282
Black Ice is NWO for hoi
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>>149930538
Post EU map.
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>>149930514
Not him but it messes up assimilation
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>>149930514
>i-i dont know
>y-you dont know either
>if i taunt him he will spoonfeed me
Get the fuck out.
>>149930610
See? Every person who played Vicky 2 more than an hour knows it.
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>>149929885
That's sort of true, but not really. Many unciv workers fail to meet their needs because of goods availability (lol wool), which is what happens when you're last in the market order. Many unciv rich and middle-class pops, as well as pops that work in valuable RGOs often have enough money to buy some or many of their everyday needs. Qing with its population of 100 million has a HUGE import market for low-tier factory goods like furniture, clothes, etc. When you sphere a small nation like Vietnam you obviously get a smaller market but demand is still there, it's not like the pops suddenly have no money just because they're small.
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>>149930610
Assimilation has shit all to do with cores, it's just that you don't start with people living there.

>>149930674
You clearly don't know what you are talking about.
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>>149930606
That IS the eu map...
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>>149930538
Did someone say islamic gommunism?
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>>149930606
Later on Yugos and Spain joined too.
Manchuria and Korea is cored too.
>>149930752
>Assimilation has shit all to do with cores
My sides
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>>149930752
>Assimilation has shit all to do with cores
You get +10% to assimilation in the New World if you have cores, and nothing if you don't
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>>149930768
(You)
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>>149930860
That barely makes a difference, what fucks up assimilation is the lack of pops.
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>>149930752
>Assimilation has shit all to do with cores
Fuck you for making me get out of bed to post this
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>>149930848
You started on 1945? Can you form the EU as the Soviets?
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>>149930912
There's no purpose in this post, stop shitposting lad.
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>>149930848
>Lake Luxembourg
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Someone on reddit told me i could find HPM here. Anyone know where he is? I have a question.

Why can communists genocide and have jingoism if they're all about peace and equality? You can't use the holodomer as an excuse because there is no proof it actually happened.
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>>149931034
lol
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>>149930712
Even if you have potentially wealthy RGO workers to export to (which is pretty rare in the sea of grain uncivs), the fact that they don't have any inventions to increase their demand will keep their demand low and anything above lower class will be too small to have an impact anyways.
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>>149931034
(You)
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>>149930989
That IS EU as Soviets as long as you change goverments 2 times.

USSR into Eurasia into EU.
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>>149930973
>That barely makes a difference
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>>149930848
>UK in EU
delet this
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>>149931120
>inventions to increase demand
?
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>>149930973
>10% d-doesnt matter
Nice backpedaling
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>>149931034
honestly surprised a real redditor hasn't complained about this already
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>>149929829
This kind of thing is pretty fascinating
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>>149931158
see >>149931005
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>>149931034
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Khmer_Rouge
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>>149931270
Every time an invention is discovered, demand for every need of every pop is increased by 0.02 in the country.
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Why do you guys hate Reddit so much...?
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>>149931432
fuck off 4chan
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>>149931354
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Khmer_Rouge
that wasn't true comunism that was a fascist dictatorship if anything
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>>149931321
see >>149931005
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>>149931396
That's actually a thing in vanilla?
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>>149931034
>>149931489
>people actually gave this guy his (You)'s

might as well ask for some free (You)'s too
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>>149931528
There was a purpose in my post, fuck off nigger.
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>>149931489
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_Terror_(Ethiopia)
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>>149931624
see >>149931005
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>>149931563
Yes and HPM increases it a lot from its vanilla value of 0.005
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>>149931647
not true communism
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>>149931186
What even is Eurasia? Is that a legit union proposition?
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>>149931763
(You)
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>>149931489
>>149931763
Therefore "true communism" isn't historical, therefore genocidal communism is historical, therefore communists in the game should be able to genocide. Great!
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>>149931034
Speaking of this...>>149929791 how come reactionary/absolutist governments cannot expand suppression methods once mass politics get researched.
If you for instance compare Commie Russia to Absolutist Russia...why stay absolutist at all?
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redpill me on liquor
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ITT
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Reminder that "communist state" is an oxymoron.
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>>149931354
>1968-1999
>>149931647
>1977-1978
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>>149931823
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>>149929591
Did you just fabricate claims or use some events/console to avoid racking up infamy?
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>>149931763
Take your pick.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mass_killings_under_Communist_regimes
>>149931823
Its meme mod what do you expect.
You also take your pick.
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What meme lost culture should my retreat to the new world game be?

Should I remain Shia or any other meme religions?
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>>149932143
Jan Mayanese XD Bazinga!
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How do you feed cash to capitalist if you're stuck in a laissez faire when trying to start industrializing
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>>149932143
Spartan Jew
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what is the lowest population releasable country in Victoria 2?
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>>149932212
you don't because in the vicky universe pops taking out loans doesn't exist
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>>149932212
1. only use laissez faire after you have built up your industry and are tired of micro memeing
2. if you HAVE to use laissez meme before you industrialize, lower taxes
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>>149932114
>Turkmenistan, Ukraine, Mongolia, Moldova and Azerbaijan can't join Eurasia evenif you don't fuck with them like Russia did with half of those
why
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Man this general is so cool during yuro time, once the murricans and south american monkeys wake up its just a neverending shitposting
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>>149932212
Invest in their projects, they often "start" projects and then they sit in the projects tab because nobody has money to actually pay for them.
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>>149932259
Faroe Islands or something...Island...some other islands? Malta?
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>>149932425
>Invest in their projects
>laissez-faire
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>>149932421
lmao have fun being blown up in the next ISIS attack or having your throat slit you eurotrash degenerate
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>>149932537
V4 is safe, but thanks for your concern :^)
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>>149932412
They can anon.
I did it. I also made Koreas and Manchuria join.

I think if theyre your puppet and neighbour they automatically join your trade block.
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>>149932259
Probably the Faroe Islands like >>149932462 said, if only uncivs count then I think it's Kuwait or Qatar.
>>149932462
>Malta
they're quite populous tho
>>149932421
>wake up
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What actually is the "platinean" culture? Searching for "platinean", "platinean people/culture" only brings up vic2 related shit. There must be another name for them if they are actually a culture group

I really don't know shit about south america
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>>149932650
>that pop growth
>he fell for the education meme
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>>149932462
>>149932657
Thank you, anons!
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What a mess.
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>>149932026
That's a pretty neat theory to be honest
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why does everyone shit on eu4? i've played all modern paradoxes but that one and it seems pretty okay so far
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>>149932789
>education meme
I started educating in 1990 actually...on the other hand pop growth event bugged out for 50 years.
I intend to release China and make it form Eurasia next...then i get Chinese and Russians together to form EU.
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>>149932945
>whats wrong with EU4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ytei6bu7kQ
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>mfw there are 94,932 Adult Male Ashkenazi joos in Germany in 1907.
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>>149933441
>Not 6 gorrilion
OY VEY GET OUT ANTISEMITE
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>>149933441
Convert them into soap.
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Give me one European country and specific regions in South East Asia/East Asia/Central Asia to be my only colony in HPM lads
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is stellaris late game really that fucking bad that its not worth playing cuz of it? or is that exaggerated
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>>149933748
Its at least 12 gorillion

After 6 gorrilion died in the war there were still 6 gorillion left
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>>149932838
>USGA
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>>149931740
It definitely doesn't work as advertised. I just console'd China from unciv to civ to civ with many techs but few inventions (before Feb 1) to civ with many techs and many inventions (after several months to get inventions).

The demand first increased as I gained more techs, then fell off as I gained inventions to almost exactly the unciv level. The province crime was the same, "kleptocrat: +10% needs" the whole time. The only thing that changed is that they got a bunch of MIL from one of the TPG events which fires early in the game, but the increase and then decrease occurs at ~10 MIL so I don't think that's relevant.

What's going on here?
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>>149934246
Oh shit I was only looking at the life needs, some of the every days and luxuries went up and down even when others did not.
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>>149933441
Using this number, estimate that there are 377,568 total Ashkenazi jews in Germany.
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how do ppl play vicky 2, timeline is way too short for that game to be interdasting

when the fuck is an eu game gonna get vicky pop and economy mechanics, id never play another game
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>>149934084
wait till parajew releases DLC

right now its bland as fuck
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>>149934057
Sweden/Somalia
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>>149934469
>if you're married to a jew you must be a jew!
>if you're the son of a jew you must be a jew!
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>>149934057
ITALIAN THAILAND
T
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T
H
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>>149934535

word thanks, i wasnt gonna buy any of it anyway. hopefully the mods/dlcs get uploaded to torrents fast
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don't bureaucrats also make promotions faster? or is this all they do
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>>149934557
You stupid goy, the adult male numbers of any group in Vic 2 are 25% of that group's population.
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>>149934730
Crats also contribute to the regional administrative efficiency (which affects pop promotion)
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>>149934730
Open the pop screen and find out!
Or search "bureaucrat" in this thread.
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>>149934557
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>>149934730
which is why +5% adm efficiency tech shouldn't be ignored because it let you start with higher adm efficiency thus increase bureaucrat promotion chance earlier so you don't spend 50 years promoting bureaucrats
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>>149934895
>regional administrative efficiency (which affects pop promotion)
incorrect
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>>149935108
ur incorrect m8
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My lads how can i win against the commune of france when playing as national france
should i focus on marines or the navy
what should be my main tactics lads
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>>149920936
This looks super stupid, if Superman tried to hit you in the face and you blocked his fist with your forearm it would break like a wet noodle no matter what fancy bat armor you're wearing.
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>>149934952
>>149934895

aha! thank you anons.
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>>149935339
Now compare it to that state's admin efficiency and your national admin efficiency to find out which one actually affects pop promotion, and then reply to >>149935215 so he knows he's wrong.
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Does anyone have that ultra old infographic on how to play HoI3?

Been looking all over the net for that pic.
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>>149934469
>having any jews at all
I don't have liq2, but isn't there a way to get rid of certain pops?
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>>149935605
Just play the fucking game and figure out by making a few rookie mistakes your first time around as you do Germany WC, christ, it's not even that complicated.
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>>149935215

this anon >>149935564 is correct
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>>149935339
>actually playing as Madagascar
FYI >>149928387 cheated.
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>>149932537
Im in the glorious Archipelago that is the British Isles :^)
We honed our anti-terror skills during the troubles come at me ISIS
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>>149935807
how can you tell he cheated? just wondering
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>>149934439
yep it only affects everyday and luxury needs
if it affected life needs that would be pretty fucky
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>>149935605
What, you mean the one in the archive?
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>>149932838
Why the fuck in recent HPM versions even when Balkans get force released from the Ottomans Greece ALWAYS gets cucked hardcore? I don't think I've EVER seen Greece get all its cores back without player intervention.
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>>149933404
Underrated post
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>>149935792
Oh, this reminded me.
>>149929791
You can't organize Madagascar to your culture, is this intended?
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>>149935951
Just shitposting desu, everytime his game gets posted here someone claims he cheated.
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whats the best vicky 2 mod?
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>>149936238
Robmod
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>>149935994
>>149934246
What is making these life needs fluctuate so much? A slight increase over unciv levels post-westernization, a 50% increase over unciv levels after researching a bunch of techs, and then a decrease back to unciv levels after a few months of nothing?
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>>149932716
Might be too late for this but here you go:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Viceroyalty_of_the_R%C3%ADo_de_la_Plata
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rioplatense_Spanish
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>>149936272

is that the one where the timeline is extended like 100 years from 1820 some shit to 1930 some shit?
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Can someone tell me why pop promotion stagnates as any unciv by the early 1850s? Does militancy affect promotions?
Had this as Persia, Madagascar, Siam, Vietnam, the Sikh, Korea and Zulu.
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>>149936238
HPM
t. hpm
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>>149936238
HPM
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>>149936520
Uncivs usually have shit admin efficiency
Uncivs have shit prestige, so pop needs might not get met
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>>149936564
>>149936575

pmt

its on the archive yes? sry mobile
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>>149935339
So each states efficiency is averaged into the country's admin efficiency which is the one that actually affects pop promotion?
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>>149932716
Cultures in Latin America other than Brazilian, African diaspora, natives and maybe Mexican are just a meme to stop you from blobbing.
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>>149936727
there's a link in the op lad
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>>149936797
no, they seem independent of each other, i have more than 40% efficiency in all my states, but the national efficiency is only around 23.9%
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>>149936274
consciousness increases good consumption, the only other thing i can think of is admin efficiency
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>>149935223
Marines are nice to have but not required.
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well

i guess i missed my chance
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>>149936697
>Uncivs usually have shit admin efficiency
I usually cut that out pretty early, specially with Madagascar, Korea and Vietnam since they're small and pretty homogenous.
>Uncivs have shit prestige, so pop needs might not get met
I always manage to keep my score high enough to be the best unciv in the world, or at least ahead of the Qing.
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>>149936520
I assume you mean where you're getting good pop promotion and then one day you just hit a wall and you can't seem to promote any more bureaucrats/intellectuals. I think this is caused by the world economy running out of some important goods for your pops which puts their promotion chance into the negative. Gotta get more rank or blob into a place that produces those goods.
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>>149937161
>best unciv
That isn't exactly terribly useful, since you've got Britain with hundreds of millions of pops and max prestige, your own production is shit, and your pops come after basically every civilized nation
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http://poal.me/sf7omn
http://poal.me/sf7omn
http://poal.me/sf7omn
http://poal.me/sf7omn
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Around 0.8% bureaucrats: enough to get 100% admin efficiency in fully cored states when war exhaustion is at 0%, minus techs.
1% bureaucrats: what you need nationwide to get 100% admin efficiency overall, minus techs.
t. vicky pro
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what dlc is required disabled in eu4? are there any mandatory mods?
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reminder that bureaucracy techs are mandatory if you want social reforms
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>>149937039
State admin efficiency is affected individually by a handful of modifiers like uncored provinces and admin techs in addition to the basic efficiency which would be "% bureaucrats / % bureaucrats required". However, national admin efficiency is literally just the basic "% bureaucrats / % bureaucrats required", all those other modifiers don't matter.
Somebody correct me if I'm wrong.
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>>149937316
But the encouraging NFs actually work before said date.
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Who the fuck should I play as?
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>>149937161
>I usually cut that out pretty early, specially with Madagascar, Korea and Vietnam since they're small and pretty homogenous.
Doesn't matter when you can't research admin efficiency techs
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>>149938294
what the crunk is that

vinland
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>>149904207
Outside of this poster does anyone else also release every single nation possible before playing? I also get rid of all puppets and remove all nations from spheres of influence.
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should I be worried about all this gommunism
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>>149939113
>artillery factory
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>>149939113
Use it to get healthcare and school desu
>>
>>149936520
In addition to what others said, often times militancy is like 10 on every part of the country which effects promotion.
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>>149939113
You were supposed to get sphered by Britain and ask them to beat China for you, lad
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>>149939113
how does that even happen...? you don't even have very many craftsmen, either
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>>149938760
>vinland

Okay.
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r8 this france
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>>149939753
>>>149938760
Who owns Florida?
>>
Is it just me or is the new CK2 DLC taking much longer to come out than the previous ones
>>
>>149940164
Oh sorry, I wasn't aware France exiled to Nauru was some epic meme, retard. Go fuck (You)rself
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>>149940264
Venice, they own part of greece, and some stuff in india too I believe
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>>149940264
>Who owns Florida?

Venice, apparently.

Also I lied about playing as Vinland.
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>the middle class is richer than both the upper class and lower class

now there's something you don't see every day
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>>149940923
>full education AND admin funding
>huh why are my intellectuals and bureaucrats so rich
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>>149941030
it's mostly artisans
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>>149941203
some goods they make just happen to be extremely profitable
usually go away faster than you can build a liquor factory
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>>149940779
Link?
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>>149941468
yeah, they're making luxury clothes, makes 'em rich as heck
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>>149939597
Events and coincidence.
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>>149937109
>lost poland to sovjets
>hungary soon to follow
>italy losing to france
>you're not at war

you've fucked up
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>>149941621
whoops, i meant luxury furniture
>>
What nation should I play as in DH?
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>>149942117
Prussia
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>>149942117
Serbia
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Poor guy.

>>149941545
https://www.dropbox.com/s/ibj119jpp0yzvd3/Divergences%20of%20Darkness%200.86.1.rar?dl=0
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Does anyone have the Victoria 2 md that removes all of the "meme" cultures/nationalities (Swiss and Flemish to name some)?
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>>149942487
Why did they have to base such an interesting idea on >>>
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just
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>>149943321
annex nepal you pussy
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>>149943498
How?
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>>149943548
right click on them, then justify war
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>>149943498
>>149943605

he can't access them through the Himalayas, he'd need to get military access from the UK
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>>149943605
How will the troops get from Tibet to Nepal desu?
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>>149943656
tibetans can climb mount everest with no issues
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>Katmandu has less than 100k pops
>>149943498
see >>149943631 and >>149943656
Also, I'm on the Japanese SoI and so is Bhutan, so that wouldn't work. Nepal is on the British SoI and has 2 provinces, so even if I got military access through the UK and the UK ignored me when I attacked Nepal, they'd intervene the moment I siege one of the Nepali provinces.
>>
>>149944016
annex china you memer
>>
does 7 years mod have genocide?
>>
>>149936321
Follow up question
How mestizo are they? Like Uruguay and Argentina are more white than other latams,but I never knew if that was from high immigration+low initial population or just being more white to begin with
>>
>>149944291

there weren't a lot of shitskins there when the Spaniards showed up
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>>149912531
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=koqnNr2h40I
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Lads can we make t. Rob jokes like we used to. I miss those days. This place hasn't been the same since the stellaris wars.
>>
>>149944291
Both
Plus Argentina literally looked for the darkest they could find to be used as 1st line infantry in most land wars they fought before the Cold War. There are some legit blacks left in Uruguay though, but they make like 5% of the population, maybe less.
>>
>>149944510
t. rob
>>
I have a question about hearts of iron.

Does anyone want to hear it?
>>
>>149944510
>tfw left /gsg/ just before the Stellaris wars

Place is so boring now desu, only Vicky 2 is posted really. Obviously it's the best game, but there used to be more variety of games being posted here.
>>
>>149944882
>>149944510
Stellaris should be allowed here. The complaints about that game are exactly the same as the complaints about HoI4 and EU4. We should embrace the fellow sufferers of paradox's ineptitude.

Stellaris is barely keeping the 4xg alive, we need reannex them.
>>
>>149945298

hoi4 and eu4 shouldn't be allowed here either you fucking redditor
>>
>>149945298
Agreed, I play all 5 games and it's annoying to have to go to the dead Stellaris thread if I want to talk about it.

Aurora should be brought back too, or else this thread renamed Paradox General.
>>
>>149944882
The stellaris controversy is probably why there is so much GS puritanism today.

Honestly it hasn't felt the same since. Everyday it feels like there is true animosity on here instead of the playful shitposting we used to have.
>>
>>149945415
>>149945391

t. johan
>>
>>149945298
blame r&i for sperging out about it
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Latvia has a nice flag, don'tcha think?
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>>149945663
t. steamgroup
>>
>>149946034
rad yugo was staunchly anti stellaris

it was actually the only time r&i and rad yugo teamed up
>>
>>149945958
>25/27
how
>>
Why is there no mod for an older historical starting point for Vicky2?

Would be cool to play during the napoleonic wars.
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>>149946149
>rad yugo
>relevant
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>>149943498
>>149943605
Happy? :^)
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>>149946209
rad yugo is the most relevant steamgroup as of now

gsgmp and turdslayer's groups are history
>>
>>149946209
t. turkslayer
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>>149946336
LOOK OUT BEHIND YOU!
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>>149946336
Noice
shame Sikkim was annexed so early desu
>>
>>149945391
You could just start posting Stellaris shit here, the autists don't actually have a say over the thread or anything. It's listed as a grand strategy game if they don't like it they can scream into their pillows.
>>
>>149946490
kek
>>
>>149946173
when i changed the soldier_death_to_pop_death ratio all my soldier pops would die and it would take forever to raise my pops again, so i went and changed the soldier promotion so it's faster and there's no cap, but this way, the wars are more violent and can actually destroy your population, unlike wars where countries would be barely affected, now wars can obliterate populations, it's pretty interesting seeing 25 million chinese die in the taiping rebellion, i like the choice i've made
>>
>>149945415
Yeah, I mean can't we just admit Vicky 2 is the best but still encourage the other 4 franchises? Vicky 2 will still be the most popular, but it'd stop these threads from getting so stale. Vicky 2 has been around longer than /vg/ ffs.
>>
>>149947015
>Vicky 2 has been around longer than /vg/ ffs
>V2 came out 6 years ago
Jesus how did I get this old

I can still remember it as if it was yesterday
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r8 these borders
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>>149946754
t. cheating pro

I'm going to do a madagascar campaign, and see what I can actually achieve
>>
>>149947731
I don't like the bulgaria
>>
>>149947731
>austrian albania

go fuck yourself
>>
>>149947789
how is it cheating? the ai has the same promotions as me
>>
>>149947731
asgh dhopd' ho w IP" HIPIOPJHIPHIO:

what the fuck is that romania-hungary border supposed to even be
I'm legitimately cringing right now, not like in the sense we normally use here but in the physical, nails on chalkboard kind of way. Honestly that's really bothering me.
>>
How the fuck are we on page 9?
>>
>>149949494
we're dying lad
>>
>>149949494
noone's shitposting lad
nice digits btw
>>
>>149949781
moderately good meme lad
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>>149949847
yeah, i really loved his meme ;D i am literally lol'ing out loud xDDDD, i love this "4Chan" place
>>
>>149949993
c тёплыми пoжeлaниями, p&и
>>
>>149926451
Any other modder who is halfway competent is deliberately driven out.
>>
>>149926451
hey, i'm making something decent, believe me
>>
>>149926451

honestly fucking this

I like HPM's genocide and reform features but he fucks with the economy and makes it incredibly shitty whilst also removing any potential to have fun from the game

I just want cool new mods without them being meme'd to hell
>>
>>149949781
It's a liquor distillery, not a liquor factory.
>>
>>149950742
how does he fuck with the economy
>>
>>149950903

t. liquor & steel magnate
>>
>>149947918
It's a Slovenian Albania lad
>>
>>149950903
big brazilian benis in simplified bagina
>>
>>149951030
go fuck yourself
>>
>>149951019
>>149951067
t. steamgroup pros
>>
>>149951260

talex
>>
I am the human manifestation of Slovenia

ask me anything
>>
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>liquor is the most profitable fa-
>>
>>149951463
this is brilliant
mid to late game, nobody produces clippers and nobody buys clippers EXCEPT recently westernized or uncivs, which there are always a lot of, and they can only buy from you
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>>149951463

>he hasn't secured access to lumbour
>he hasn't secured access to steele
>he hasn't secured access to texteiles
>>
>>149951565
>and they can only buy from you
not really, the UK always keeps a clipper factory producing a shitton.
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looking for a gross dutchland for the netherlands. Also what do the varying colors mean? Different regions or annexation/spheres?
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>>149946594
This.

Let not the R&I strangle this thread eternally. Shitty games are a religion of peace.
>>
>>149952024
>R&I
t. steamgoup
>>
>>149952024
For once R&I was right about Stellaris though. Fuck off.
>>
>>149951565
Capitalists always build clipper factories, probably on AI countries too
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>>149951601
I always used to think """""""""Jon"""""""""" """""""""""""""""""""Stewart"""""""""""""""""""" looked 100% goy and was surprised when I learned he was a Jew. But holy shit does the beard and halfassed suit make him look like he came straight out of Treblinka or what
>>
Lads, what happens if I annex my vassal Brandenburg who has a personal union with Russia? Russia goes independent? Can I keep Russia somehow, without Brandenburg outright inheriting them, which can never happen?
>>
>>149952579
>Asking a question about a complicated mechanic in EU4
You are unironically better off asking this at /r/paradoxplaza, you will only get clueless people who only understand Vicky2 and shitposters like >>149952106 >>149952148 over here
>>
>>149952724
>eu4
>complicated mechanics
>>
>>149952979
>personal unions
>an uncomplicated mechanic
quit memeing while ur ahead
>>
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https://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/jul/28/norway-finland-move-mountain-halti-halditsohkka-highest-peak

>giving up clay
>ever
help me understand this lads
>>
>>149952724
Since he's my vassal, I'm allowed to place my own relative on the throne... hmm...
This is Paradox though, if I do I bet Russia just goes independent that instant
>>
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>>149952474
>Germany will never be contained to their rightful borders
Why were Prussians allowed to mindlessly blob all over central europe?
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>>149953301
>mindlessly blob
speaking of...
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>>149953301
Prussians are based
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>>149953301
>>
>>149953259
Just save and try it, assuming you didn't fall for the ironmeme
>>
why do i keep getting generals, advisors, and heirs named johann?
>>
>>149953610
I fell for the ironmeme. I placed a relative on Brandenburg's throne, and Russia stayed in the PU. I think what I need to do now is just consolidate the Empire and claim Russia's throne.
>>
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Literally the only good thing to come from Napoleon
>>
>>149953663
It's a common Scandinavian name and John is a common Chr*stian name
>>
>>149953767

Napoleon was Italian so of course he paid special attention to Italian borders
>>
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r8 my shitty meeem
>>
>>149954129
VERY shitty my ladd.
>>
>>149954129
spic/shit
>>
>>149954154
wew lad that took like 20 seconds is it really that bad should i change bureaucrats for capitalists
>>
>>149954129
saved
>>
Does anyone play EU4 anymore?
>>
>>149954129
reddit tier, just like the "top 10 pranks that went way too far" memes.
>>
New Thread:
>>149954430
>>149954430
>>149954430
>>149954430
>>149954430
>>
>>149954428
I liked the "top ten anime romances" that showed the grossGermanium to be honest
>>
>>149954276
kys
>>
>>149954549
it's the same joke
>>
>>149954591
Pies in the face is an old joke but I still find it funny
>>
>>149954726
I didn't say it was old. It's literally the same joke.
>>
>>149954808
And a pie in the face after a pie in the face is the same joke but I still find it funny
>>
>>149954970
That says a lot about you then.
>>
>>149951664
Red-Home/Annexed territory
Reddish Pink-Puppets
Pink-Sphere

I'm just guessing here desu
>>
>>149955041
Yes, that I have a fantastic sense of humour.
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