Eve Online General - /eog/

blops are shit 2 be h

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>>149898389
psa: 15% plex deals are live through the weekend, go to account managment to see them
what a surprise, just as PLEX passed 1b

stop shifting the goalposts op

>actually I can neut with the heavies for up to 5
Confirmed for never having used a jump drive in his life
Don't talk about ships you can't fly or afford

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What did they mean by this?

>>149898638
no u

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x hard tackle

>average amarr tackle frigate
>2066m/s

>>149898838
how they ship minmatar slaves

goalposts-kun are we done?

shield sin

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please post Scythe fits

>>149901053
is that a meme ship

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post Sabre fits as well

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>star citizen

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also post Merlin fits please

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are Hornets good drones?

ironic shitposting is still shitposting.

We know Eve will never looks this good. or have multi-crew ships.

is star citizen a real game

>>149900754
This the only way to do a real sin

It tanks so.much harder and let's your lows be drone damage amps for massive dps

Gulnar does great shield sins

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>>149898389
If your favorite ship from Eve Online was a cute girl, what would she look like?

>>149902432
you tell me

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZWq8ynUq7wM

>>149902827
>broadcast for armour if you get shot
>it's ok I have a shield booster :^)

>>149903046
Why would a sin broadcast for reps?

>>149903158
so it doesn't die

>>149902970
Which is

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Came back from a break.
I don't remember training this skill? I never trained into capitals...

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>aoe target painter doomsday

>>149904613
>362'039/2'048'000

>'

I'm a newfag to this game, I bought three months, is that enough to PLEX?

>>149906371
if you want to have no fun for 3 months sure

>>149903459
It's a blops Battleship you don't usually bring remote reps to a blops drop

>>149898838
>dude they're kneeling it MUST be muslims
>definitely not their logo

>>149908064
true in my case as well, but if you fit active meme tanks then you just can't. if you do master race buffer tank then you have the option to

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tfw still no capless neuting sin lossmails

>>149908291
>not all muslims

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caw

>still no /eog/ cruise raven roam

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Corax buffs when?

>Corax

>Want to brawl up close? Use a Talwar or literally any other destroyer apart from Caldari

>Want to kite with lml? Use a Talwar.

>flying Caldari destroyers
>flying Caldari at all

>talwar
>brawl up close

nice joke m8

>>Caldari destroyers

>literally and unironically talking shit about the cormorant

>tfw Eve has one of the best lores out of any MMO out there
>tfw devs don't take advantage of this and make content with way that you can read about lore
>everything is just a fucking grind fest of AFK these rats or AFK this rock god damn I can't take this game anymore

A rocket Talwar is better than rocket Corax and a Thrasher smashes both of them

I'm sure your 25 dps Cormorant sitting at 80km really scares off the kiters

>unironic brawling talwar
>cormorant 25 dps at 80km

>this faggot is allowed to post on this sub

>dude how dare he insult the corm it does 30dps not 25!

154 dps at 95km

n1 m8 you made me open eft

>154dps here please don't warp off before i get your shields down please i spent a lot of time efting this fit pls im useful i swer

>154 dps? that's nothing, my 200 dps rocket talwar is far superior

>literal caldari defenders on this very forum

for what purpose? is it like stockholm syndrome?

>>149912439
>ratting
>mining

fw is better isk than both for less effort tbqhwyf

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>>149913552
>fw is better isk than both for less effort tbqhwyf

I don't give a fuck if it's better isk I want content that doesn't fucking revolve around AFKing HOLY FUCKING SHIT IS THAT TOO MUCH TO ASK I DON'T WANT TO PLAY A FUCKING GAME JUST TO AFK AROUND SOME GOD DAMNED FUCKING BULLSHIT. CCP CANNOT FUCKING KEEP GETTING AWAY WITH MAKING TERRIBLE MECHANICS THAT ENCOURAGE AFKABILITY

pic related im just about done

o7 dror m8

ps pls stop posting

>>149913824
but its less afk (unless you want to die) and better lore you even get to roleplay being caldari!

getting smashed and having nobody want to fly your ships just like the rest of the game

oh my god i fucking hate this game all i can do is afk mine or kill rats holy shit why do people even play this game wooooooooooow unsubbing right fucking now

>>149914603
stop trying to satarize my argument faggot. I dare anyone of you to say that content is good in this game. At best it's fucking mediocre. Everything boils down to afking like a fucking cuck because you had a shred of hope this game will get better and you don't want it to die by unsubbing.

no you're a cuck

>I only do the most mind numbing activities possible because despite there being more active ways to make money and have fun I choose to do them instead and this is definitely the fault of the devs

holy fuck ive been sitting on this belt for 2 hours and no rats have spawned holy fuck why is ccp so bad at designing gaems? just yesterday i was sitting on a gate and no one came through for me to camp, why the fuck is this game dying? why is no one coming for me to kill. jessu christie is ccp even trying

>>149915217
>despite there being more active ways
name them faggot

yeah I thought so.

>>149915492
>fw
>incursions
>exploration
>lowsec level 5s
>nullsec npc missions

>>149915613
are you a legit retard or is this how you think trolling is done?

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>dror calling someone a cuck

>hurr durr AFK
How about not listening to the isk/hr retards who are minmaxing even their pissbottle change intervals. You can actively play fucking anything.

>>149915962
That's not an argument. How are those not active? Go AFK in any of them and you die or get left behind then die.

do we know if they ever have high res space backgrounds and shit, textures in the works for anytime in the future? oled and 4k is coming pretty fast, and eve is fucking perfect for this. but right now, you look at a lot of space on even a 1080 monitor, and it's covered in banding.

don't forget wormhole anoms, which require hole control at the very least, and good piloting / cap management as well for spooky stuff like t3ds running c3s or rattles running c5s.

>inb4 it's ratting, it's afk
want to know how i know you've never dualboxed rattles in c5 anoms? and you asked for >>149915492 "more active ways" and this is certainly more active than afk orbiting in an ishtar in null. it might not be interesting, but it's certainly less afk and more money.

or consider doing something LESS active, like skill farming, pi, or trading, so you make your money in the background while your attention is occupied with something MORE active like hunting niggers.

>oled

>>149916130
>>149916368
dude stop you're breaking his eve is all afk grinding narrative

>>149916487
what?

>going afk to take a shit while gas mining in busy hostile space

most exciting shit I ever took

>>149916130
so let me get this straight, the activities are so mind numbing that you'd have to be an idiot to seat there staring at a computer literally pressing F1 every minute or so.

BUT the fact that you are in hostile space means you cannot go AFK so you have to stay there and torture yourself AFKing infront of a screen or you risk destruction.

do you NOT realize the quagmire at hand here?

>>149919275
give an example of what you consider an engaging, non-afk activity from any non-eve game

(bonus points: do it without using the term "intrinsic")

because it sounds to me like your assement of "x is a bad mechanic because I wouldn't do it unless I was forced to in order to achieve some later goal in the game" can be applied to every video game activity ever, and is supremely subjective and dependent on what you find fun.

for instance, some people hate farming in dota and only want to teamfight, and other people would just sit and farm all day if they could (and even load up farming maps to do exactly this) - but every dota player farms to some extent because you have to in order to play the rest of the game. The people who don't like doing this play one of the many mods or they go play HotS or Smite.

fuck me for responding to bait

>>149919984
>still taking the bait
C'mon, anon.

>>149919984
is it tho?

take aRPGs like Diablo and PoE. Objectively mind numbing mechanics because you are just spamming left click, yet they manage to make it entertaining.

>>149920185
they're only entertaining if you have aspergers

So what determines what key your weapons get assigned to when you group them? Mine are currently being assigned to F4 upon being grouped, while I'd rather it be F1, which has happened before, though I'm not sure how I did it.

>>149920283
probably stacks them on the same slot as the left-most one in the fitting screen

>>149920405
I don't think so. I currently have 8 of the same weapon on my destroyer and they're being grouped to F4.

>>149920494
Nigga you can drag the stacks around you faggot.

>>149920623
Wow, never knew that. Thanks.

>>149920753
So... To activate low and mid slot, did you click or use alt+F keys and stuff?

>>149920821
Alt+function keys. Just never occurred to me to try dragging them. Assumed they were just hard binded to whatever key they got auto-assigned to whenever you hit "Group all weapons."

>>149920821
i play on a laptop and need to use the Fn modifier for those hotkeys and that's too many buttons when you start adding in shift and alt modifiers, so i usually click them.

>>149920821
You can drag the low and mids into highs too, but yeah.

>>149921074
Yeah but Anon didn't know about dragging, was safe to assume he didn't know you could drag from low to high either.

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>not having mods stacked into cool formations

>exploration drake

what the FUCK

>implying a drake has that dronebay

>drake
>drones
>rlml
>DDA
anon pls

>2016
>drake

>>149912626
Corms can do like 125 at 90k.

>>149913104
Corm is so OP. The fuck is this range with frigates being stuck under 12k?

>>149913954
Not every criticism of the game comes from a single IP. Git gud?

>>149913824
>>149915338
>not fighting manticores with a venture
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i_wm9ZOCa-I

Yes, 90+ km is prefered engagement range with destroyers. Surely everyone will wait for you to kill him and warp away.

>>149922686
>Not every criticism of the game comes from a single IP. Git gud?

r u kevin? can u see a post's IP?

I was told 4choons is anonymoos what is this shit

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Did anyone say Jamyl?

it actually is shitter, since they get absolutely facefucked by everything in the game

the only reason cormorants have this meme status is because there's some fleets they can outrange. if you bring a <50km normal destroyer to anything you'll just get raped instantly because everyone knows you have 3k ehp

>Surely everyone will wait for you to kill him and warp away

holy shit how can you be this bad

>>149919984
To be fair, your holding your direction and turning your character in WoW while on a pretty specific "rotation" of priorities and proc'ing abilities. It's about positioning for some classes, CC'ing mobs, and all of this comes from multiple hotbars of abilities. EVE is a probably a grouped set of turrets on a single keybind, maybe with some drones. It's "inherently" less active because it's not a class based fantasy game where attacks are really any different from any other, except range. You're not phasing in and out of stealth like a Rogue. It's not managing resources up and down, utilizing combos.

Making a point?

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>>149923040

>>149919984
>>149923338
..Furthermore, it's not just an awful mechanic because "I was forced to in order to achieve some later goal". It's awful because even if I save enough ISK, I can't even fly a carrier without a shitload of SP.

>his empress is a slut

>>149916161
Isn't banding a rendering issue and not textures?

>>149923187
they're the only long range destroyer platform thats super cheap

seriously a 5m destroyer multiplied by 30 and if you kill just one fucking guardian or some shit in an enemy fleet you're immediately isk positive even if you lose the entire fleet.

>>149922942
>with destroyers

the corm is the only one to actually get this because of its double range bonus

>>149920261
Not an argument.

ARPGs are fun because they're colorful and because combo-ing a bunch of mobs into their loot drops is sorta neat. Loot is supposedly the main appeal, though, and EVE doesn't have a lot of that. PvP is probably coming upon fleets 1v8, and PvE (as posted) is a lot of AFKing and roaming, warp-to-jump, et al., but not a lot of interesting loot. Most loot from PvE isn't even used on that character, just sold.

>>149920821
I rebind the top row to the number keys, and other rows to modified numbers. Function keys are ludicrously out of place when trying to juggle.

>>149921025
>what are keybind settings

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>>149902970
aoi is a cute! CUTE!

>>149926272
she is kyoot where is she from?

>>149925816
>things are only entertaining if i say they are
>things are only boring if i say they are
holy fuck dude
holy fuck
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theory_of_mind

>>149919275
Are you saying that because you can't go AFK at the game that means EVE has bad activities to do?

>>149923187
Dessies have the benefit of like ~2M ISK t1 fits. That's cheaper than a t2 fit frigate, and they can still do massive damage or alpha.

>>149925816
loot drops and levelling up is autism. other stuff is fine

>>149926553
ARPGs are an established genre in popularity. D3 is the 10th best selling game ever.

Also, your link is irrelevant to the fact that the market has common standards set by 99% biological similarity and the motivational reward system. No, you can't say "but not everybody likes X movie / -genre", as you don't have to sit in front of a movie playing it for 50+ hrs.

>>149926484
http://myanimelist.net/anime/25835/Shirobako

>>149926616
he's saying that eve has a fundamental problem because all its activities are boring but you can't even alleviate that boredom by going afk because then you get shrekt.

he wants eve to have activities that engage him enough to where he has no desire to go afk.

unfortunately the only activities that fulfill this requirement are ones that appeal to him personally. like colors, combos and loot drops that you use yourself.

>>149926892
Loot is done like every MMO

you do some mission and one of them drops rare shit

>>149926616
No, you are thinking backwards, Eve has activities that are AFKable *by design*. The fact that it forces you to sit there and stare at a screen with minimum input from you is BAD design, and one of the main complaints people have about this game.

>>149926892
>leveling up is autism
Yes.

>loot drops are autism
No. With what else am I going to fund my newbie mega-alliance?

>>149927095
He obviously doesn't want to go AFK now otherwise he'll get ganked

I've never seen someone go AFK from a combat site before that wasn't a haven or sanctum in space.

>>149919275
Suggestions?

Maybe >>149923338 is helpful.

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>>149927019
>comedies historically make the most money
>only comedies should be made
but i like documentaries m8
don't take my documentaries away from me pls

>>149927179
I think loot drops are autism when it's in a level up arpg though. everything is a level-appropriate thing that'll be shit in a couple of hours. the whole thing is autism and just really unfulfilling. I don't know why they get associated with proper rpgs, when they've just stripped out all the substance and made entire games out of one of the shittier unfortunate common game mechanics

>>149927106
A lot of /eog/'s complaints about the game would be mitigated if an /eog/ corp actively ran WHs and missions. Finding a decent WH corp or somebody to follow for the rep grind isn't fun.

To be honest, it's probably posted here plenty, just subtlely.

>>149927437
>only ARPGs should be made
Wasn't stated.

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>/eog/ corp

>>149928029
>guys, I miss benji. give me a replacement
>>well, what corp?
>pffffffff

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>>149923454
>he doesn't have an empress

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>>149927520
yep, it's mentioned pretty much every thread

>>149927730
>me "i find eve activies engaging" (implied because i play the game and don't complain about it on a message board)
>you: "eve's activities are categorically un-engaging"
>me: "your statement is needlessly narrow, subjective, and based on your opinion"
>you: "a lot of people like ARPGs, which are designed in a way that match my opinions, and eve would appeal to more people if it was designed that way too"
>me: "that's great, but just because it would appeal to more people if it was changed doesn't mean that it should be changed - just like because documentaries make less money than comedies doesn't mean that national geographic should start making comedies"

do you think they'll fix svipuls tomorrow? it could happen

>>149928809
Original anon said ARPGs have mind-numbing mechanics, but "they manage to make it entertaining".

I vaguely suggest that it's because not only is it colorful *and active*, which benefits the power fantasy, loot is often claimed as the main reason these games are entertaining (EVE's version would be winning some cool PvP target-engagements or actually getting a drop from a site.). In D3, getting a legendary, though, really does feel nice, and it's probably further backed by them selling for hundreds on the in-game AH.

More science backed, these are social lobby games and promote a feeling of skillfulness because they really are challenging.

To be fair to the conversation:

>me: they're popular for these reasons, supposedly
>you: HOLY SHIT, DUDE, CAN YOU REALLY NOT GET THAT PPL LIKE DIFFERENT STUFF?
>me: they don't really, because these are video games that require much more than movies, etc.
Yet you continue to strawman the shit out of each post, even here. I guess it's implied that the game should appeal to more people, but it's much more basic than even comparing it to other games. The original anon is just suggesting to make it less boring.

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>>149898561

All the AT alliances that lost the draw are collecting PLEX to buy in. Quite a few big names missed out so will be interesting too see how much the ending bids are.

>>149933735
I don't think they're usually proper stupid high bids

>>149931683
this, holy shit, someone gets me.

How can EVE fulfill the power fantasy?

>>149936075
I know. I get it. "Just blob!"

..But what I'm saying is..

guys..

what about..

listen..

newbs in capitals

>>149936389
if I had 10 accounts I would log in each and every one of them behind a VPN and downvote the shit out of you.

>>149937092
Sounds like you're triggered by tiny stuff, anon. Maybe get some chamomile and a massager.

I hear you can orgasm without ejaculation as well, which doesn't make you flacid and feel awful. That could be neat.

Yeah, maybe you should just git gud.

>>149937218
>make you flacid and feel awful
sounds like a personal problem

is it worth trying to get back into eve at this point?

>>149938006
nah

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>>149923040
MY MEME MADE IT BIG TIME YES

I guess taking requests for drawing shit.

Be warned that I somehow draw spaceships worse than people.

>>149939175
kys

>>149937435
It's scientifically documented.

Nobody said I have that problem, espeically where I'm suggesting an alternative.

>>149939238
no u

>>149923040
>you will never impregnate this taint saint

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>>149940494
I colored it because fuck >>149939238

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>snuff box

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>>149941632
>lowsec

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>>149941575

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>thorin

>>149941575
YES

if you are anime faggot, get the FUCK OUT of my spaceship grimdark game. Thank you very much, FAGGOT.

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Don't opress my gallente right to watch animoo.

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>>149942439
>spaceship grimdark game

>>149942629
How the fuck do I report a post in this forum?

Is it too late to start playing EVE?

>>149942983
Depends on how much you like AFKing.

>>149942983
Do you like getting a 100MN VNI and AFKing a site? Do you like getting a procurer and AFKing? Do you like getting a rattlesnake and AFKing WH sites? Do you like getting an FC's ping and AFKing a fleet? if so, welcome aboard.

>>149942983

No. Get a buddy invite and see how you like it. Don't listen to jaded faggots.

>>149942983
People told me it's too late to start playing 5 years ago
It wasn't

>afking whs
>afking fleets

>>149939553
things that are scientifically documented that dont apply to me
i guess that means im privileged then

>>149943305
wow that sounds great, where do i sign up !

>>149945346
>sounds
>from text

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>Doing Sisters of Eve arc
>Mission to kill 15 enemies
>Reward: 193k
>Immediately after, a mission to simply fly from one station to another
>Reward: 300k

>ISK rewards in the thousands/tens of thousands/hundreds of thousands
Not even worth it desu

>>149942983
Do you like social engineering people into paying you billions to keep their citadel alive and then killing it anyway? Do you like constructing elegant spreadsheets to tell you exactly what to buy and sell in order to make lodesofemone? Do you like coming up with a small business model that provides a service that people in your area need and then slowly building up a core clientele though advertisement and word of mouth? Do you like networking with people constantly and developing their trust and respect so that when the time comes, you have a significant voice in important decisions involving anywhere from dozens to thousands of players? If so, post an email for a buddy invite.

>>149945953
Just doing the arc for the standing increase, really.

>>149946036
I did it for the isk

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>developing their trust and respect so that when the time comes, you have a significant voice in important decisions involving anywhere from dozens to thousands of players

Who let the ccp shills in?

shit, I forgot I'm not allowed to recommend the game whose general I have open

>>149898561
Good, plex should never rise above 1 bil again, its terrible for me.

>>149948004
It's on 945M again.

so, complete newfag here, how far will the fit/skillqueue in the OP pastebin take me?

>>149904772
>Anon your on paint dut-
>OK

>duty

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>>149919275
>Tfw you've been in a general so long you can literally recognize an individual anons shitposting.

Who are you masked EVE-hating, EVE-player?

>>149902970
Skiff

>>149923454
Sounds like a faggot normie.

>>149931683
>promote a feeling of skillfulness because they really are challenging.
Literally something I'm not looking for, when I'm playing EVE I don't want it to remind me I'm playing a game.

>Boring job like activities
These are things I do want because it makes EVE feel real, and not like I'm playing a game.

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>>149948315
i was the last one to edit the pastebin. the skills and destroyer fit that are shown there as imgur links take a little more than 24 hours to train into, cost a couple mil and are designed pretty much to be enough to kill the npc rat in a small faction warfare complex.

that is to say, not far at all.

this http://goddamnpatriot.blogspot.com/2014/08/greetings-loved-ones-it-is-i-damn_3.html is an example of the skill recommended by Brave Newbies for their brand new pilots a year ago, and not much has changed. Keep in mind that they want to get their guys useful in a big fleet so they go
>frigate tackle > explo > frigate jamming > destroyer dps > t1 logi cruiser > t1 dps cruiser etc
and if you do the all-too-common "imma solo mission in hisec" you won't need to train tackle, frigate jams or logi cruisers at all. that being said, null/wh exploration is certainly a good moneymaker for new players and frigs/destroyers are a good platform to do combat with low sp, even if you're solo (not that you will do very well at first anyway).

basically the reason we've hardly even made an attempt in this general's op and pasta etc to provide a generalized skill queue for newbros is because it depends entirely on who you fly with (if anyone) and what they do most of the time and how many of them there are, and the ways you want to make money and the various opportunities for that that you get that depend on who you fly with.

so the more important thing is to start thinking about the answers to those questions. as a group, the posters in this general are certainly able to provide answers to "what skills do i need to... [market trade] [explore] [do faction warfare] [mission] [mine] [small gang piracy] [large fleet battles] [planetary interaction] [manufacturing] [etc]", though depending on which ones you choose some anons might make fun of you.

>>149949497
>small gang piracy/null sec exploration
sounds right up my alley, being in a close knit group/alone and fucking around in places where police don't go.

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>>149949874
join all-out actually
we live in a wormhole (which has no rules, like null, but also you can't see people coming and you have to scan routes autistically every day), accept newbies, do small gang, and pretty much all of the members who were new guys when they joined made their money with exploration starting out and will be happy to provide input.

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>>149945996

>ninazu

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>Report to [Agent]
>Set Destination
>13 jumps away

>Agent mail
>she is 215 jumps away

>holy shit you can do courier missions in this game I bet they are swell as fuck
>deliver this item to another agent 20 jumps away in your T1 industrial at 1au/s
>o-ok

>TIMED
>LEVEL 1
>DISTRIBUTION
>MISSIONS

>>149953460
buy a magnate
put cargo expanders in it and cargo rigs if you're feeling baller
boom, 1.2k m3 and 5au/s

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Are you fucking hauling in a freighter

>>149953637
>Are you fucking hauling in a freighter
n-no

>she doesn't haul in an Orca

>>149953637
>52 m/s
Better hope you have dock bookmarks for every single station you warp to.

>>149953845
Haha gotta watch out for the cloaked nados amirite xD

Gotta watch out for cloaked titans in hisec waiting to doomsday your haulers

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PPNCgX2FYnM&t=7m45s
What did the mean by this?

>Bummers' Bar

>oneiros

who is worse for the game

goons or pl

>>149957025
ur mum

>>149957461
shes in test

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Post good bengal ratting fits. I am using Super Hornets as fighters.

>>149922953
>r u kevin?
XD

So i want to send literal shit to other players. Why has CCP not added this feature yet?

>>149958776
Because lewd things are not allowed by CCP
even if the exec producer is a lesbian slut

>>149954846
>>149958549
>>149958776
>>149958879
These memes going straight to r/eve. Thanks for the free upvotes!

do target painters diminish just because theyre all on the same ship pointing at different targets, or do i still have to aim them at the same target to get penalized?

>naming your tengu "tengu"

Why even bother changing your ship name if you're just going to be an unimaginative dingdong anyways?

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Post your cruising tracks.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l7I9yZH-RsI

>>149959719
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XjeujElo48Y

>>149959584
I use alliteration in naming my ships
"Cheapskate Corax"
"Hobo Heron"
"Destitute Dragoon"

>>149959584
Gives a minimum of information away on dscan - certainly less than "Joe Blow's Tengu" or "Jamgu"

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>>149960070
It also means you are a shallow faggot without a bit of imagination.

>>149960284
>90% memes and weeaboo shit
And you're calling other unimaginative?

>>149960384
Memes are advanced knowledge.

>>149960070

What does a ship name give away on dscan?

>>149960493
Shhh, he's elite opsec

>BATTLECOOOMS

>>149960493
the level of autism of the pilot

It's EVE, it's always 100% level autism.

>>149960284

>gallente industrials

>what are specialized haulers

>>149961018
like the orca?

>>149961156
You can have a whole set of the gallente ones, fitted, rigged and it doesn't even come close to the price of an Orca.

DST is better

>not just using couriers if you have so much to haul you need to dedicate 45k+ to haul trit
>not just using a DST anyways

>>149948315
What other anon says except following corp skill queues. You should be watching videos and training for the specific ship that seems fun. There are some generalized roles that benefit from finishing lvl 4 training, but a lot of that comes with a fresh character now.

That anon says you can do FW smalls, but it's mediums IIRC, and that's some dank ISK. I would recommend doing WHs though.

There's always training for T3Ds after getting basic combat learned, which probably includes a few frigates and some ewar, the latter of which will probably show the most about how to keep cool while bookmark bouncing and keeping aligned properly and orbiting to mitigate drone damage, etc.

If I had to suggest something specific, it would be getting a character, but that is sorta expensive, albeit could come from WH ISK. Training agility and propulsion mod skills for 3 months isn't entertaining, and the game has a lot of that.

>>149949405
>Literally something I'm not looking for, when I'm playing EVE I don't want it to remind me I'm playing a game.
Do you realize how fucking ludicrous that seems? Why would any demographic play a game, especially where most of the excitement is PvP (most of them), and it not be challenging? What isn't a challenging MP game?

I'm not saying ARPGs are like.. Halo or something, but to be honest, EVE basically is an ARPG. You click around in space and hit hotkeys.

>I don't want it to remind me I'm playing a game
..doesn't make any sense. It is a game. If you're just checking market undercuts and AFK ratting while shitposting your 4chan RSS feed, sure.. the game has a lot of potential for that after getting settled into some niches. Finding those and staying interested in the game should be super entertaining so that subs stay though, for the experience.

>>149955110
Game?

>>149963627

>tfw market and industry whore
>absolutely love it
>never done pvp
>never explored
>still in my newbie npc corp
>praying eve stays afloat since no other game fills this niche for me

>>149963721
Star Citizen

>>149963848
>no other game fills this niche for me
My problem with EVE's economy is that I can't seem to find a farming niche that keeps me interested in the economy. I used to farm mats for WoW enchants for twinks, but EVE requires SP for production, and a bunch of varied goods for some products.

AUSSIE TIME BEST EVE TIME

Also, EVE. You're really missing out on the customization demographics. WoW transmog is huge. EVE SKINs are fucking Pay2.

>>149961267
>couriers
>literally giving people your isk
lol

How can you tell how many runs a BPC actually has on a contract?

show info in the contract shows the original, looking at the contract shows single runs

the one i have is a 5 run though

>>149965494
When you doubleclick the contract it shows you.

>>149965583
ok so if the ones there are single run for 450-500 million, what should i put my 5 run up for?

>>149965494
>>149965702

Make the contracts window wider

>>149965715
that gives no new information

>>149964361
Yeah right lol who the fuck are you trying to fool

>>149965702
>ok so if the ones there are single run for 450-500 million
Wat? Which one? Faction battleship or some scam contract? Post screenshot.

>>149965802
my bad, I misunderstood

>>149965812
But no one is online

>>149965828
capital ancillary shield booster bpc, according to eve industry its about 500m profit per run

>>149965974
Profit or sell price?

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>>149966062
profit, heres screenshot

>>149966176
I'll give you 5M and I'm taking a risk here.

>>149966273
I'm gonna respectfully decline, thanks.

>>149966176
The material price is around 40M so if you can build it , you can sell the finished product.

>>149966341
I can't build it though, so shouldn't I just throw it up as a ~2bil contract?

>>149966176
Can check actual production costs. That's helpful.

>>149966410
production costs costs are 40mil, like >>149966341 said

>>149966529
So it's 550M - 40M production * 5. Can start from there and spam it in chat for any interest.

>>149966702
I doubt i'll get much interest with no profit margin left for the buyer, so is 2.2bil a good starting point?

I really don't use contracts much so I'm a bit lost here.

>>149939175
Where is the drawing of a slasher I requested last thread anon? Thanks in advance.

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>whoa someones selling plex for 850M...
>...in solitude
FUG

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Why haven't you applied?

>>149969556
Jesus died for our sins. Not for you to advertise a corp over it.

Are the kids out of school already?

Summer had been here for a couple of weeks now

>>149969674
Jesus came to me last night in a vision and told me I was his new prophet, it's cool

>tfw you'll never be as edgy

>being a heretic

>>149971480
>deus vult

>VIP mode
The fuck is this?

>>149971715
Early post downtime, sometimes it's used to let admins reconnect and see if the servers are functioning before they open it to the public.

>>149971715
Premium time for large alliances to move their supers.

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>tfw you're so rich you get to move your supers without a worry in the world.

>tfw you start moving your supers during VIP time but a VIP titan uncloaks and doomsday your stuff. In highsec.

>>149972659
top reddit meme

>>149972659
rip orca

>tfw 2 cloaked titans doomsdays your fresh off the registration page capsule and ship on your starting system
Why even play this game

>tfw Aura can tell you're a retard and refuses to give you any missions
Why?

>aura gains sentience and refuses to talk to retards
Playerbase improved by 90%

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>>149941575
You could have put more effort into it. I touched it up a bit but there are still many color holes.

>>149980435
>color holes
I meant uh holes in the coloring

>fc calls for proteus and guardians
>tfw can't decide which ironic t1 cruiser to show up in

>>149985342
bellicose

>>149985342
>get kicked from fleet
>complain about it on /eog/
>WOW THAT SCRUB FC ASKED FOR T3'S AND GUARDIANS AND I BROUGHT MY DRAKE AND HE WOULDNT LET ME FLY THE FUCKING CUNT

>>149985510
>try to make plate rep hml bellicose
>not enough grid

>>149985515
le funny drake meme epic

>>149985342
caracal

>>149985649
what am I a faggot

How dead is this game?

>>149986298
Deader than Joves.

>>149986490
Thanks I need the harddrive space so time to get rid of all my eve crap.

>EVE
>hdd space

>>149987758
You cloud computing? faggot

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Post cool ships.

>decide to do exploration again in w-space
>easy 100kk, or so I thought
>10 systems later
>fucking nothing
>one single data site in the next system, but also a citadel
>decide to take the bait
>first container hacked
>Nemesis uncloaks
>he fucks up his scramble and i warp out
>15 systems later still not a single site found
>except for citadels after citadels after citadels

What the fuck is wrong with w-space?

>weekend

>uninstall eve
>select to clear cache
>uninstaller crashes
wew lad

>>149988960
>I want to do exploration
>in w-space
theres your problem, data sites spawn more often in nullsec

>>149988497
eve is barely a 14gb install

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>>149988584

>he fell for the unpredictability of exploration meme

>>149989406
I was looking for relic and data sites. The only site I found was a data site, which was also bait.

>>149989608
you should go to nullsec where they're more abundant

>>149989726
I was thinking about that, only problem is, how do I get there safely? Getting out of there to sell my stuff would be the same problem again.

>>149989970
Wormholes'd allow you to dodge everything. Just gotta find one that leads to HS.
Then all you have to do is avoid HS ganks. Exploration ships are often good targets.

>>149989970
use wormholes

plot your way through nullsec do some sites then if you found any wormholes, plot a way out of it

>>149989970
>fly around in dead lowsec/highsec looking for shit
>find wormholes
>go into the wormholes
>look around in the wormholes for sites and other wormholes
>some of the wormholes will go to nullsec
>go through and look for shit to do
>go back to highsec once you have enough stuff that you think you should drop it off

this categoric discarding of an entire region of exploration because of anecdotal evidence makes my skin crawl. you can't say more explo sites spawn in null than in whspace. maybe he got into a chain for which most systems yesterday had three hub connections and got wiped out. if you go to null, the places near active groups with young players and the places near empire space will also be wiped out, and the deep places are more likely to have sites. it's just that with wormholes the next virgin system might be one jump away across a freshly spawned wormhole and in null, all the virgin systems are clumped together a long fucking ways away (but a known distance). different strokes for different folks.

also yeah wormholes are how you get to and from nullsec safely.

>>149950283
>google the name
>apparently it's dead
?

>>149990363
didn't say it was hard to find them, only that it was hard to get to them

>>149990313
>you can't say more explo sites spawn in null than in whspace.
Umm yes I can because they do. W-space isn't known for its site spawning that isn't full of sleepers and stuff. the highest concentration of do-able sites has always been in null

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>Umm yes I can

mining is the backbone of eve economy i am insuly by fact that the player killers in this game would even dare to try to compare their unserious proffesion to the truly thinking mans life dream eve is the has beeen in the forefront of advanced simulation of market data and thanks to countles studies we all know that eve is the best game for this i think ccp should just remove shooting players all together it adds nothing to the game and just generates lost minerals instead we should all just keep building ships forver and make vast loads of them in order to have them this is what i did when i was in all-out but since they stole my medium gun machariel i realize they trylu do not share my dream thus i am also i think that we need to remove system security since concord do not respond in null when my svipul gets ganked by the noctis player using such a ship for a dirty job is truly not pallatable and i thunk u all should reconsider your careeers in eve but that is just my tought even thought i am right so just so you know so stop arguing and lets discuss the best mining setups for players with low amounts of isk okay guys but do not forget that i need some so please send in case i need it but i can t afford to pay back since i am poor and lose svipul in lowsec also do not ever stop mining my friends mining is truly the best i really enjoy it i think ccp needs to buff it rhough since i only earn 2 million isk per cycle can anyone help i think since it is clearly bugged i do not know what to do and i am kind of tired so do not come of as snarky or i will report u to the mdoeratos and they will ban you because i know them irl and know they hate you all sicne they are truly secret miners as well but i think yoi call know this since i essentially control this baord and do not ever forget this just so you know but anyway lets also kill white stag since they are so bad at the game i truly wish goosn would come back so i could use my main to farm guirsatas pirates in deklin.

>>149990613
I'm sorry you're too fucking retarded to know that data and relic sites spawn more in nullsec than W-space

>>149990725
I don't have any opinion on the matter I just think you sounded like a faggot in that post, so I posted a picture of my face

>>149990864
>say something blatantly wrong
>but I can say that
>WELL UR JUST ACTING SMUG

>>149991010
I didn't say anything blatantly wrong

>>149990458
no, you can't. You can't see every sig in every system at once and after observing for 30 days say that the avg daily number of sites in null / the number of null systems is strictly greater than the avg daily number of sites in c1-c3 wh / the number of c1-c3 wh systems, because you aren't a dev.

you can say "when i explore, i usually find sites faster in null than in wh" but that totally disregards the buildup of wh gas sites that slow down your scanning and the need to scan each connection between wh systems, which also slows down your scanning.

Of course you find sites faster in null because there's less chaff to scan, but that is NOT sufficient proof to say that there are more sites in null than in wh.

If you would like to shift the goalposts and say "well if you get down to the bottom line it doesn't really matter which place spawns more sites because it's better to explore in null because of the chaff you just mentioned" THAT's an arguable point.

Of course I don't think the argument can be resolved because everyone already knows that null is faster exploration and wh is safer exploration, and the place you choose to go depends on what you're comfortable with.

what are you two chucklefucks going on about

>>149991125
>you can't say that sites spawn in null more than w-space
this is blatantly wrong, they have a higher spawn rate and concentration in null than WH

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>SHIFT
>THE
>GOALPOSTS

>>149991302
but I didn't say that

>>149991302
P R O O F S

>>149991170
You really haven't ever done exploration

W-space has so many different sites but none of the ones that guy was looking for. W-space spawns more sleeper bound sites that are impossible to do in a single solo frigate. Only null sites that spawn in W-space are in C1-C3 all the while competing with every other kind of W-space site.

You will find every single time that there is a higher concentration of null-sites in nullsec compared to w-space which is why I said you can GO TO NULLSEC AND FIND MORE BECAUSE THEY SPAWN MORE OFTEN THERE.

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x Rokh

>>149991469
Go to any C1-C3 wormhole and compare that number of null sites any day of the week to any nullsec system with nullsites any day of the week and see what you'll find.

Its pretty concrete that nullsec is the primary source for nullsites over w-space

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x hard tackle

>get doomsdayed by rorq
>ship is reprocessed

>>149991791
nice garbage fit

>>149991791
>lasts 1m22s
>1.2 effective HP healed
>only 120 max, barely a flight of drones
>AB
>quad beams
0/10 would invite on every fleet

>>149991924
k tell me why it is gargbage then.

hint: you can't. because you are a faggot memer who thinks he knows what a good fit is.

Solo player here. I want to give FW pvp as Caldari a try. I have 40m sp and can basically fly and properly fit all Caldari T2 ships with the exception of black cocks and dicktors. The problem is I'm a total shitter at at pvp and my entire combat experience consists in a few low sec solo ganks in a T1 frigate and cruiser.

What is the best way to get into it? Was thinking about joining the militia to learn the ropes of FW, but then I saw that doing that carries a big stigma in EvE.

>>149992438
bait

>>149992453
>big stigma
like what you spastic

who gives a shit if you're in fw

dont join the state protectorate join a player fw corp and calmil is shit anyway (like the rest of caldari)

>>149992474
well yes, the fit is tanky and can be used as bait, thank you for your useless comment captain obvious.

>>149992820
a 1600mm plate with 1 trimark and 2 other rigs gives you more tank and less penalty than an 800mm plate with 3 trimarks

>>149992879
but you get buffer over time by using the MAAR which means you won't be one of those cuck that needs to redock to repair their armor

>>149993051
you don't have an MAAR on there and even if you did you wouldn't get it off. You'll get more buffer with a 1600mm plate

>the I don't wanna repair to dock argument
you have no cap

>>149993124
>you have no cap
says who

>buffer over time
>dock to repair
I CAN TELL THIS IS GOING TO BE GOOD ALREADY

>>149993225
>1m22s
>effective 1.2rep/s
>super slow
>barely negates a single flight of hobs

I think if an ally put a single flight of medium armor bots you'd heal more than with a repper and for what you're doing a maller is superior to this omen in every way

>3 eanms

>>149993392
>>barely negates a single flight of hobs
so just kill the fucking drones that's why you have guns, fucking DUH!

also that cap time doesn't matter. just stop shooting and you will be cap stable.

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>>149993575
>so just kill the fucking drones that's why you have guns, fucking DUH!
you assume theres only gonna be one set of drones on you? you're assuming solo?

this maller has more tank, more dps, better cap, better tracking and probably better speed since you neglected to put that in your picture.

Hahahahahaha How The Fuck Is Cap Instability Real Hahahaha Nigga Just Fit A Cap Battery Like Nigga Stop Cycling Your Guns Haha

>>149993829
>no way to repair other than docking.

k go troll reddit faggot that's where you belong

>>149993963
>no one on your fleet is either logi or brought logi drones
>YOURE NOT ALLOWED TO DROP A DEPOT TO REFIT TO REP
>no thats not allowed hurr durr, stations don't exist!

>1600mm on cruiser hulls
No thanks I'd like an unfucked speed and agility.

>>149994073
You take less penalties and have more tank with a 1600mm plate and 1 trimark than an 800mm plate and 3 trimarks

>not having armor layering 5

>>149993575
>just stop shooting and you will be cap stable
Trolling requires skill m8

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>>149994459
>I don't have a rebuttal so imma just call them a troll and try to discredit them