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> Tomb Kings still not announced

i want to rape

The ELECTOR COUNTS can beat beastmen ez.

>>149843783
Khazrak took Boris' eye, in fact, there's an entire campaign now based around the goat-shitters destroying everything he loves.

>>149843958
That's why you need to summon ALL of them.

>>149843783

Beastmen are the buttmonkeys of the world, of course they get beaten easily.

Are beastmen or orcs the niggers of WHFB?

>>149844279
>Black orcs
>Slaves to the Chaos dwarves, bread to be dumb and stronk to do tough slave labor
>rebel and just go around fucking up everything until the end of the world

wheres the last thread

>>149844454
>>149739354

>>149844550
thanks man

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>>149844576
No problem my dude.

Is it reasonable to have an army consisting of all black orcs in campaign?

>>149844761
might wanna doom diver to goad the enemy into not turtling up

>>149844371
>get shit done and are the most disciplined of any greenskins

Comparison falls off there.

Besides everyone knows ogres are the real nigs of Warhammer.

>>149844761

No. However, there is nothing stopping you from doing it besides money, so if you can afford it, go nuts.

Are any VC heroes worth using in battle?

Are any heroes at all worth using in battle?

>>149844761
No. First off how the fuck are you going to pay for that and secondly you need big boys for anti large infantry. Also you need cav. Doom divers are good too. Some black orcs are nice and a must for armored factions.

>>149844925
I like using bright wizards and exalted champions in battle. Necromancers are good, too.

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>>149843261
Rollan!

Not gonna post the Beastmen one since I'm going to update it once the online encyclopedia is patched

>>149844925
banshees are utter shit, only run necromancer if you plan on keeping a beefy infantry presence alive

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I want to be dominated by a best elf!

>>149845218
>>149845109
Why Necromancers? My Lords and LL can already heal/aura heal. Do they stack?

>>149845490
why Heinrich Himmler over Mannfred?

What are some good campaign strats for Empire? I'm a new shitter and have been rolling through everything on normal and I'm assuming thats because VC are broken since I don't have to worry about morale while spooking the shit out of everyone else. So i figured if I was to ever git gud I feel like Empire would force this. So, from what I understand I should immediately start heading north and securing the coast against chaos correct? Do I conquer everything between me and there, or do I try to diplomacy it up? Am I in the ball park or am I way off?

>>149845490
Invocation of Nehek has a cooldown longer than its duration. Having multiple of them rolling over and over is really powerful. Overcast 1, 1 is on cooldown, 1 expires, cast 2, 2 is on cooldown, 1 is off cooldown... etc. It will make your cluster immortal. They are also really good for splitting engagements. Their auras have limits to their range, so having multiple is good.

>>149845843
Neat, thanks for the tip, senpai.

>>149845843
>>149845490
Also (imo) Vampire Lords are better leaders than necromancers because they can actually fight in melee. Plus Lore of Death is still ridiculously good.

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G O B L I N S

Which TW youtubers do you actually enjoy watching?

The only one I can consistently watch is Oakley.

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>>149846000

Arch

>>149846000
Heirofcarthage

>>149845716
Try to ally with Nordland early for a quest you'll get, avoid confederating too early because it'll drag you into useless wars. Build up reikland until Chaos invades, then when you've dealt with them, you'll have a bonus that'll essentially give you free confederation.

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>>149846174
>heirofcarthage

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>>149846000
milkandcookies

enjoy his mp vids, particularly as he also does Beginning of the End Times vids with some lore explanation in addition

>>149846000
I like Arch

>>149846303
Oh? So I essentially just turtle up? What troops do I priotise. I know demi gryphs and steam tanks are a must. What about other artillery? Are light wizards as big a deal as I've heard they're made out to be? I know great swords are a must, but do they make a good...I'm not sure what the word is, I think its anvil? Sorry if these are dumb questions I've only really played VC while dabbling in orcs fro like 30 turns.

>>149846000
I don't remember his name, but there's a guy who ran a few vids awhile back, where he just boxed up some empire Arty and gunners up and had a massive hoard of zombies run at them.

>>149846398
What, not edgy enough for you, anon?

>>149846398
What's wrong with they guy? His voice isn't cringe and he isn't autistic.

Worst thing you could say about him is that he's a little boring.

>>149846000
Heir, though I don't really watch his campaign vids (mostly let them run in the backgreound; I enjoy listeining to him rambling).
He does pretty neat commentary on battles though.
Plus he's an eengineeer like me, so that's something, I guess.

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Vampire Counts are truly the superior race.

>>149846669
>>149846756
desperately tries to affect the balancing of the game

>>149845716

Turn 1: Attack enemy army near Grunburg, beat it
Turn 1a: Move army to attack the settlement
Turn 1b: Move army back into Reikland, recruit 3 Swordsmen

Turn 2: Attack Grunburg if you didn't, else move on to the one in the Southwest, capture it, delete barracks in Altdorf since the SW settlement will have it, recruit 3 more swordsmen

Turn 3: Finish off rebels, capture Eilhart, recruit 3 more swordsmen.

Now is where it gets interesting. You want Marienburg to the west of Eilhart - it has a unique building that generates massive income, but it's very well fortified and generally has a 20 stack army in it as well as its garrison. If you are good at sieges, you can probably do it. If you don't want to attack the city while the enemy army is in it, set your army to ambush mode outside Eilhart and hope you don't get cucked by RNG. After that, attack Gorssel in the north. Sack it, then raze it. You don't want this settlement as it will suffer constant raids from Chaos which will generally do more harm than good from actually building the settlement up.

All the while doing this, you wanna build Altdorf up for either Reikguard, Demigryphys or Greatswords and if you want, the College to unlock Balthasar. In regards to the other factions nearby, you can keep vampires sweet by attacking orcs, but these usually die to other human and dwarf AIs nearby really early on. You also want to focus on forging a defensive (ideally not military) alliance with Nordland for the Reikland Runefang quest for Karl.

There are some settlements of relative importance you might want to capture if you want OP cavalry, namely the one directly north of Altdorf for the Knights Panther Chapter House and Couronne (Bretonnia's capital) for the Couronne training grounds. You will be able to recruit rank 6+ Reikguard and Demigryphys with both, rank 7+ with a tech. Grunburg (Reikland) also has a building that increases the level of Cavalry. It's ridiculously powerful but takes time to get.

>>149846916
What, multiplayer balance? I honestly don't give a shit about multi so meh.

>>149846916
>desperately tries to affect the balancing of the game
Whut?
You mean him pointing toward things he finds unbalanced?
How is that in any way a bad thing?

>>149846000
Legend can be cool

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>>149847069
ok alright will do boss. I very much appreciate the highly detailed strats. Here have my rarest slann pepe in return

>>149846000
Does Darren count?

>dwarfs are already called dawi in warhammer
>for some reason age of sigmar calls them duardin instead of dawi

THEY CAN'T EVEN DO THAT RIGHT

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7 HOURS REMAINING FAGGOTS.

7 HOURS REMAINING.

>>149844279

Orcs are based on football hooligans from the 80s. They're not niggers.

Beastmen are based on the barbarians that sacked Rome and stuff. They're not niggers.

The only niggers you'll find are pygmies.

>>149849385
>The only niggers you'll find are pygmies.

What about Araby?

>>149848012
It's funny because they have 30 years of history to draw from that they spent money developing and they don't use any of it.

How GW are still in business I have no idea.

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>>149849073
>mfw i won't be able to play bestmen for another week

>>149849476

Araby are based in Fantasy. They're sand niggers, but cool sand niggers like Saladin.

>>149849623
Oh right. Then I got nuthin.

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>>149849705

I wouldn't say that...

>>149849705
Wouldn't the savage orc tribes in the dark lands fit the bill?

>>149849914

Ultimately based on football hooligans though. Hence the facepaint and all.

So is there a lore reason for all the Skull heads carved into the mountains all over the grand campaign map? Or just a creative art decision by CA?

What are those three areas that you can't pass in the map? The forest in Brettonia, the swamp thing in Tilea, and the weird murky thing in the Badlands? I think the swamp one is the Skaven city apparently??

So forget the Empire then, Tilea and Estalia are gonna be boned if both Beastmen, some Orcs, and Skaven start there.

>>149846445
is Arch quickly becoming the Radious of TW youtube?

>>149850242
>The forest in Brettonia

That's where the Wood Elves are.

>I think the swamp one is the Skaven city apparently

Yes.

>>149850242
>skulls on mountain
I think its a religion thing, kind of like putting up big crosses throughout the country. skulls seemed to be the symbol for their religion

>>149843261
Was the razorgor chariot in the roster when it was first announced?

So Sauron (before getting his hand cut off) and his legions of Orcies and whatnot all magically appear in the Old World, Mordor gets shoved in somewhere in the Darklands, or Badlands south of the Border Princes, maybe by Ekrund and a nice big path or two get opened up to the Old World. He's no friend of chaos. He's got the Nazghul, Trolls, Oliphants, a few legions of easterlings too.

How fucked is he/ the Old World?

>>149843261
>all these poor faggots complaining on steam reviews for having to pay less than an hours pay
>complaining about DLC on the page of the main game

>>149850242
When the polar gate collapsed, not even the mountains were safe from the wave of corruption, so they turned to skulls in the name of grimdark.

>>149847134
It's people like him that are the reason hoplites and pikemen are killable in Rome 2! Greeks are superior, you shouldn't be able to loose as the Greeks!

>>149850242

Skulls are the primary means of decoration in all GW universes

>>149850948

I don't recall there ever being a hoplite meta.

I came into Rome2 during the days of evocati/oathsworn spam

>>149850871
most of complaints are from kids

the regional pricing is awesome, I got the DLC for something like 7 bucks

>>149850871
>>149851330
It's 22 dollarydoos here with the 10% discount. A little bit ridiculous

>>149851973
yeah that's basically the same in £££. It's funny, since it's the #1 steam seller right now.

>>149851973
>It's 22 dollarydoos here with the 10% discount.
wtf, where do you live?

>>149852257
>dollarydoos

Take a guess

>>149845136
rolling for when beastmen are out

>>149852390
Somali?

>>149852390
Antigua and Barbuda
Australia
Bahamas
Barbados
Belize
Bermuda
Brunei
Canada
Cayman Islands
Dominica
East Timor
Ecuador
El Salvador
Fiji
Grenada
Guyana
Hong Kong
Jamaica
Kiribati
Liberia
Marshall Islands
Federated States of Micronesia
Namibia
Nauru
New Zealand
Palau
Saint Kitts and Nevis
Saint Lucia
Saint Vincent and the Grenadines
Singapore
Solomon Islands
Suriname
Taiwan
Trinidad and Tobago
Tuvalu
Zimbabwe

Where?!?!

>>149852601

Well I imagine there are kangaroos in the Federated States of Micronesia, so that would be my guess.

>>149852649
>dollarydoos
>kangaroos
But I can't be sure that's actually the link, maybe he's mentally retarded? which would hint at Australia again, I guess you're right

cant wait for another day of no mods

>>149852781
>needing mods
Casual or no taste?

>>149852864

>better ai recruitment and armies
>better camera
>larger units

is that shit taste?

>>149844925

Almost all heroes are extremely cost effective

>>149844925
dwarf heroes are really tough. i'd make a wall with 3 or 4 to protect my gunline by not only tying up enemy troops, but also giving my guns obstructed views of them.

>>149852780
>>149852649

Dollarydoos comes from didgeridoo you retards

>>149852971
>better ai recruitment and armies
shit taste
>better camera
casual
>larger units
shit taste

nah, you're ok but what does better camera do?

>>149846000
Oakley and Indypride are my favorites. Oakley is a loveable goof and Indypride likes to show off mods. Both are great at multiplayer while also sometimes playing meme games against one another

>>149853103

This, you can have heroes tie down an enemy unit while gunners fire at them with minimal chance of FF. You can do the same with artillery but it's more risky

>>149853185
>thinking I care about 'even worse than niggers', former english prisoners, and their isolation island
I'm sorry you weren't born in a civilized country

>>149853214
Better camera allows you to zoom in and out about 3-4x as much. It's quite handy, esp. on a large monitor.

>>149852971

You forgot Molay's magic mod

>>149853103
Unobstructed*

>Handgunners flanking the enemy line
>Rape, death, murder, can kill hordes with minimal effort

>Thunderers flanking the enemy line
>Basically the same unit, do fuck all damage, are slower, are fat, don't kill anything

Am I missing something here?

Fuck me I still can't decide if I'm going to buy the DLC

I mean I can afford it, but I don't know if I should, the ratio price/fun doesn't seem very good

>>149853631
Skill.

>>149852780
>>149853308
you don't know much about other countries or much of anything really, do you

>>149852971
>>larger units

What does this do actually? Does it affect balance?

>>149853717
>the ratio price/fun

What are you, some kind of fun stockbroker?

Buy or don't. Don't resort to arbitrary shit like price/fun ratios.

>>149853867
I know about America and that's all I need, fuck off commie

>>149853717
Probably best to pick it up when Wood Elves come out.

>>149853913
adds more soldiers to squads, approx. 33% more. it doesn't do anything to single size units though so they become less useful imo.

I only downloaded it because greenskins and vcounts felt underwhelming size wise. I wanted larger armies for them since it felt fitting.

It can make it harder to use some units, like ranged units in vanilla I think have 60, which is way easier to manage than 75.

>>149853717
Do you want to just kill beasty boys?

You only need it if you want to play as them.

when can I start the rape?

>>149853995
Dollar/hour ratio is where it's at

>>149854287
6 hours or so

>>149854289
>not hours of you life spent working/hours of you life spent playing

>>149854289
>Dollar

Get out colonialist scum.

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>post yfw the FLC faction isn't bretonnia but Milan

>>149854687

Marienburg is already in the game

>>149843261
Just bought the game, quick question, does building a gatehouse on one settlement gives walls to all the settlements in the province or just to that one settlement?

>>149854362

It's not getting released at the usual time?

>>149850864
He becomes yet another player in the neverending grimdarkening

>>149855015
just that one m8

>>149855015

Just that one settlement fuck boi

>>149855089
So they are shit, thanks, you are a nice person.

>>149855128
No they are not

You'll need them anon
What difficulty are you plaing on?

>>149855046
It's closer to 4 hours now, that guy's a retard

I know it gets released at 8 AM US East Coast time which is bueno because I get tired of having to wait until noon to play

>>149855128

Sure, if you enjoy getting your ass reamed by freshly spawned orc tribes.

>>149855128
You build them in your really important settlements so that roving bands of Orcs and Norscans (and Beastmen too, soon) don't burn down your big city while you're trying to keep the Vampires, Chaos and Grimgor in check

>>149855128

No, it's basically mandatory to build them in every settlement at higher difficulties.

>>149853631
Yeah. Don't make Thunderers move. Have parts of your line fall back to lure enemies into Thunderer cross fire or have a bit more gap in your line. Dwarf high leadership means you can let them get surrounded a bit without a problem. This lets your thunderers shoot enemies that are oozing around the sides.

I actually use both very thin and very deep Dwarf lines in different situations. High Dwarf Mass means it doesn't take a deep line to stop enemy charges effectively. I'll use deep formations to create gaps to shoot through.

On Hand Gunners vs Thunderers. Ranged output wise I believe they are the same. If there's a difference it's in their reload time because their damage is the same. Even melee damage is almost the same (+1 weapon damage for thunderers).

However, Thunderers have +60 armor, bronze shield (30%), +16 leadership, +4 melee attack, and +11 melee defense. They have 2 less ammunition but that's not as significant as you'd expect given that Thunderers are a way better melee unit. Thunderers are also way better at absorbing enemy ranged fire and will last significantly longer in any situation where they get attacked.

Again though. Don't try to move Thunderers. They take too damn long to reach a flank. Move other things so they get shots. And remeber that Thunderers are dwarves, dwarves are short, and that means they get straight shots a little more easily over friendly heads.

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>>149854858
And Marienburg is considered an empire province instead of its own thing

More like

>yfw the FLC isn't Bretonnia but Kislev with Ice Witch being the only unique non-Empire unit replacing demigryphs with all the empire units being renamed to "streltsy" with the addition of swordsman or pikeman next to their names and all the cavalry being renamed "gospodar outriders" or something and no steam tanks with the Tzar having a bear mount option
>also no bear cavalry

>>149855405
>>149853631
The best unit to flank with as dwarves are Irondrakes. Getting enfilade fire with flamethrowers along a long cluster of bunched up units can be devastating especially with their moral effects. and their small unit size makes them great for sneaking through small gaps in your line and rotating quickly to get that flame off.

>>149855349
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>>149855280
>>149855268
Well, but the opportunity cost of the gates are a economic building, so instead of getting a gate i could build an economic building that would help support more units and that more useful than th benefits of the gate, right?

>>149855689
What good is a tailor house when it's ON FIRE

>>149855689

You have 3 slots per settlement. That gives you 1 for a gate, 1 for an economic building, 1 for growth/happiness/corruption.

>>149855689

Wrong. The potential cost of having to rebuild the settlement because the skull-takers spawned a million miles from your nearest army offset anything you might earn.

>>149855689
>right

No because losing the settlement is much larger setback

All you WILL lose ungated settlements to roaming bands of whatever.

>>149855689
Until your town gets sacked because your army wasn't there to protect it.

Generally if the towns are in a more protected area you can go full economy. but I find having that gatehouse and the settlement walls key especially at choke points borders or if your armies are stretched thin.

>>149850064
But also the whole "Hey guys XD if I paint you blue the British can't hurt you lmao" thing

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>the time commanders reboot pretty much confirms they need to do a medieval 3 and quick

>>149853103

wait this is an awesome idea
i'm gonna try it with all artillery

>>149846000
Any YouTuber that doesn't have a retarded accent or a lisp, or a long stupid-ass intro like WoS

I actually really like Loremaster of Sotek but he's more of a general WH YouTuber than TW

>>149849073
>Posting Incase

GOD DAMNIT, I JUST GOT DONE

>>149856157
>confirms
It confirms nothing but it would be nice.
Still not going to happen though, maybe the historical title after the upcoming one will be M3.
CA's still on the whole "no 3's for some time" thing...

>>149850864
He gets killed by some mary sue character like Grimgor but due to his orc hordes and followers loving/fearing him so much, he becomes yet another Chaos god

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WHERE THE FUCK IS MY MEME RACE ?


G O B B O S

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I can't take this shit. EVERY OTHER BATTLE is cloaking the enemy until they are within blasting charge range. Every time reinforcements are fed in, they are invisible. It's completely ruining my armies with ranged builds. The radar doesn't even register a line of sight on these battles, what the hell is going on? Pic related, there's 5 empire units out there somewhere, they didn't show in deployment and I can't find them with my gyrocopters.

>>149856660
HUNDREDS OF MEN ARE HIDING BEHIND LE ONE TREE ECKS DEE LMAO

CA needs to get their shit together

>>149856660
This issue is fixed in the patch coming out in a few hours.

It only happens to me when I alt tab during loading, so if you do that then knock it off.

>>149845218
>banshees are shit
Ethereal + Grave Ward = total projectile immunity
Send her to stand in front of an AI dwarf gunline, so they waste all their ammo on her

it's cheesy as fuck, but fuck stunties in legendary

>tfw shit myself in the shower earlier

Just fuck my shit up, senpai

am I becoming a beastman?

>>149856842

They're reducing the strength of overlapping different sources of damage reduction in the patch.

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>>149856917
>am I becoming a beastman?
Yes, the transformation begins

>>149856925
Kind of defeats the purpose of damage immunity buffs, doesn't it?

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>>149856204
The runesmith is in the center to buff the other two heroes, but this was my standard formation. But you could easily use heroes the entire way instead of melee infantry.

I'd usually supplement this force with some more reserve elite infantry, a flanking force of irondrakes, More artillery or even some gyrocopters to skirmish. Quarrellers were for anti skirmisher duties.

>>149856974
This is some Geiger shit right here, Jesus...

>>149845218
Banshees make amazing assassins, one of the best in the game. By the time I finished my VC campaign I had 2 level 30s that consistently had +80% success rates. Stick with using them for that purpose.

>>149855689
WTW is different from other Total War games because you're always at war

Leaving your shit unprotected means someone is going to burn it down

>>149856974
wait so beastmen are humans turned to half beasts by warpstone ?

>>149857073
Welcome to Chaos. What you see on the field is the relatively tame part of it.

>>149850794
yes

unless you mean the Tuskgor chariot, which is unlikely to happen (same chariot, but smaller boar-things)

>>149856993

>Not being able to get 100% damage immunity makes 25% damage reduction useless.

No, not really.

>>149853631
Moving thunders is always a awful idea. They're slow so that means any hiccups you'd get with a hand gunners unit you get worse with thunders.

Honestly I've had much better luck with Quarrellers, they seem to not have nearly as many issues when it comes to moving and shooting.

>>149850864
Sauron and his army get wiped out in turn one by a lawsuit

Does anyone here actually use agents on the map? I really only use agents that offer training bonuses to boost my armies' ranks but beyond that I just use them for battlefield stuff. I rarely find a use for them anyway beyond the occasional "MOVE X HERO TO X LOCATION" quest bullshit

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What do you guys think about the new city siege map. Personally im not a fan of the forced frontal assault, it makes the battle feel smaller and cuts away a lot of the strategy involved in the unit set up phase (it also looks way too much like siege battle from Heroes of might&magic, pic related)

>>149857109
theyre shit at actual fighting like in mult, i know theyre good on the campaign map

>>149857132
Kind sucks that the proper Chaos with Daemons is barely in the game.

>>149856157

But time commanders was mostly ancient battles?

>>149856993
It just makes the racial 10% projectile wards even more irrelevant

>>149857128

That's how the race originates but they are capable of reproducing as well.

>>149857230
They are incredibly useful, not only for suppression of enemy heroes but also slowing down fleeing armies and damaging intact ones. Each kind of Hero also has more random buffs that complement different builds and racial weaknesses (Dwarfs can increase growth, Vampires can hasten reinforcement and reduce attrition). Take a look at the skill trees and find some that work for you.

>>149857487
Neat, so there's beastwomen?

>>149857230
Generally I find as i get better at the game I use agents more and more.

Map actions early on are usually just Happiness from some of the fightier heroes and assassinations, and wizards are almost exclusively battlefield focused.

But the good thing about using agents on the map to peform actions, even if you're only dubious about their positive affects for you is the the fact that they'll gain experience far FAR faster than just embedding.

This isn't so much an issue once you're researched ways to give them more levels, but early on it can be pretty key to actually being able to get a decent combat or magic hero.

>>149857128
Pretty much. Long story short the Old ones where fucking around and their gate system broke and accidentally chaos into the world.

Those caught at ground zero (aka the poles) pretty much got instantly fucked. Men turning into monsters and beasts turning into man-beasts.

>>149857386
at least we get the 'nearly pure chaos' today, the 'we play chaos because it's fun' faction is for edge lords anyway

The lore says that beastmen can be ALL animals like dogs, cats or insects. Yet we only see goat and cow beastmen, why? Do you find different beastmen in other parts of the world?

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>>149857291
>playing multiplayer

>>149857579
Yeah, but the fluff states that they're, shy, nice and gentle.

>>149857653
>Do you find different beastmen in other parts of the world?
Yeah, there are panther beastmen and stuff like that in the jungles of 'not-africa'

>>149857230

Gotta assassinate those fucking chaos heroes that shit all over your public order.

>>149857630
>Those caught at ground zero (aka the poles)

About that, is there anyone living in the chaos wastes? From the maps I saw that there's a lot of beastmen there but how do they survive if this is just a frozen desert ?

>>149857750
>Implying they won't be untouchable by the time they're fucking about in your territory

>>149857653
yes, but goats and bulls is as far as it can go before falling into furryshit

>>149857262
I don't mind it being one side of the city and I get why they made it more geometrical (for their siege AI)

but I still prefer the more scenic and cinematic battlefields of attila.

I'm also disappointed in underground maps they're all just straight tunnels except with slight rises and dips here or there. There's no maze tunnel map or maps with small galleries to fight one unit wide in for side flanking corridors. no maps with choke points to assault or defend or maps with massive pillars that block line of sight.

Some ideas seemed great but were just poorly executed and I can only hope they can either be improved or modded in the future.

>>149857653
I think it's more of a theming thing. They're supposed to represent the barbarian hordes that harassed the Romans, basically, so they have a lot of this pseudo-celtic barbarians wearing cow skulls feel about them.

>>149857790
shoulda spent that time leveling up your own heroes. Chaos doesn't arrove until turn 50+, there's no reason you shouldn't have a couple assassins up to at least level 12 by that time.

When are Beastie Boys unlocking anyway? I need to know so I can figure out whether or not I need to start making coffee

>>149857790
>not assassinating them as soon as they appear, before they gain levels
>not having a few lvl. 20-30 assassins by the time chaos appears

>>149857773
Chaos koolaid

>>149857595
I was never sure if it was better to get them to try and do actions or stick them in a army.

So thanks for that!

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>>149857653
Yes, but it's not feasible to make 60 different types of beastmen for a TT game.

You could consider the goat heads as the Old world breed I suppose.

>>149850242

because all of the Worlde is tainted by chaos, from the roots up, so things like skulls are naturally occurring things in their universe....

>>149857653
They can be but GW never made models showing that off so all we have are beastly bull men.

That said i do think it was also explained away as being region specific as well.

>>149857806
Changing the underway maps like that would fuck over the race most likely to use them. Gyros would get penned in and artillery would be severely limited. Don't know how it's described in the lore, though. But there should be some form of variety.

>>149857773
>how do they survive if this is just a frozen desert ?
Ice bear, seal and penguin beastmen maybe?

>>149857773
Beasties are rampant cannibals. They'll also eat almost anything they can get their hands on. And in the wastes there's all sorts of non-descript creatures.

>>149857773
There are human warbands roaming the northern chaos wastes, but not the southern chaos wastes, only demons, a few ogres and a whole lot of beastmen.

I have no clue how they survive in such high numbers with limited food and water supply. Of course they eat each other, but that doesn't seem sustainable.

The only answer I can come up with is that it is the chaos wastes and reality is warped. Time flows much differently and the laws by which the remainder of the world is forced to abide by are not always applied.

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>>149857773

Nomadic raider tribes like Hung, Kurgan and a bunch of other chink sounding shit roam the northern Chaos Wastes.

Basically 7 foot tall humans who who literally have to fight every day just to survive. They'd survive off raiding, but shit is so fucked up in the northern wastes that you can walk for countless centuries and not even feel like a day has passed for you.

>>149857773
Generally they survive off scrounging what ever mutated animals and plants (and probably beastmen) they can find. But thats more on the fringes of the wastes. The deeper you go the more fucked up things get until you start running into demons.

I don't know if it's still canon but I think the idea was there's a rift torn open up north and that's where chaos (aka the winds of magic) pours through into the world.

>>149858732
>I don't know if it's still canon but I think the idea was there's a rift torn open up north and that's where chaos (aka the winds of magic) pours through into the world.
It was still canon in 8th and ET that the winds of magic blow from the northern chaos portal to the southern one.

question; when beastmen come out, can a modder add a beastmen unit or two to the warriors of chaos roster to use, even if you don't own the beastmen dlc?

I mean the DLC is for getting to play as the faction themselves, and their models are in the game anyways for the AI factions, so I'm hoping this is possible

>>149857230
If you damage a settlement enough it loses it's garrison. I've taken settlements without a battle because of this. I have not quite figured out the actual mix of damage to walls vs damage to settlement building. I believe it's fully destroying the settlement building (reduce it's health to nothing but it's still in the slot to be repaired).

I've found using agents against walled settlements to be extra useful when you have a stack with a higher % of cav to it's melee main line. Though it's also fair whenever you want to avoid a wall fight. Breaking walls gives holes that you can quickly attempt a surge through and get to enemy ranged/artillery. Holes in walls can also be an opportunity to shell units from safety (break a siege tower and a gap of safety occurs). Damage to the settlement in general can help reduce health of towers/walls in an area though you likely don't start with a breach.

For example, in my last chaos campaign. I had one unit of each type (exalted hero and chaos sorcerer) each bash a settlement before I hit it. I also had cannons in my army. That army also had about 8 units that where always a mix of warhounds or cavalry as well as some monsterous units that can't go onto the walls. So my melee main line was only about 6 units and a wall fight was a bad idea. I had very little trouble in most sieges destroying a tower, and then taking my time to create some breaches, break the gate, and surge through from multiple angles into one interior area.

I'm expecting Beastman to generally avoid wall fights too.

>>149858887
Oh sweet then! I haven't gotten around to any of the more recent fluff so wasn't sure if that had changed or not given how fond of retcons GW are.

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>4 hours

>>149858902
>even if you don't own the beastmen dlc?
That's actually a really good question, the Beastmen assets are there for everyone but to play them you need the dlc...
I think CA/Sega/GW would forbid it and ban the mod...

>>149858902
I can see this becoming a problem for CA after today...

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>>149859020
TIME TO EAT MAN-FLESH HAS COME
DESTROY MAN-HOVELS
DEFILE MAN-TEMPLES
RETAKE WHAT WAS OURS

>>149858902
Yes, it'd be possible

But you are likely to get your account banned fot it

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Can't wait to start a middenheim campaign with the new Todbringer skin.

>>149859036

yes, but I'm technically not playing as the beastmen if one or two beastmen units get added to another factions roster, right?

as I said, you're paying to get to play the beastmen themselves, and their campaign, but the assets are still there for the AI to use. I see no reason why a modder couldn't do it

>>149859216
Toris Bodbringer is gonna bring all the sexy man-bods to bear against the unsexy beastmen

>>149858902
Just learn to do it yourself, and never release the mod.

>>149858146
>>149857653
Huh I thought that the more varied hybrids where mutant types and considered "lesser" by even the beastmen.

>>149859324
Do harpies exist in WH?

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>>149858902

>>149859324
The horn size is what gives a Beastmen his status, so any hibrid of a hornless creature would be lesser by default

>>149859228
I understand your reasoning and if they wouldn't be a paid dlc there would be no problem with Beastmen unit mods for WoC.
But since you have to pay to play them I don't think they will allow such mods (unless it's somehow possible to make the mod only usable for those who have the CotB dlc)

>>149859396
Is that for a mod, so it's possible to make mods only usable when you have the required dlc(s)?

The beastmen ambush and the beastpath battles all look the same regardless where you are, this is fucking boring. I don't want to have big forests and pine trees when I fight in the badlands.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?annotation_id=annotation_1328045313&feature=iv&src_vid=oop9F9RHIKI&v=YoHcuA7dbYc

>>149859605
That's pretty shit desu senpai

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>>149859363
Yes

>>149859515
Yes and yes.

>>149859605
As exepected.

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REMOVE BEASTMEN remove BEASTMEN
you are worst beast. you are the beast idiot you are the beast smell. return to the warp. to our northern cousins you may come our country. you may live in the drakenwald.....ahahahahah ,beastmen we will never forgeve you. cetnik rascal FUck but fuck asshole chaos stink beast sphipere shqipare..beastmen genocide best day of my life. take a bath of dead beastmen..ahahahahahBEASTMEN WE WILL GET YOU!! do not forget Stir river. chaos spawn we kill your brayherd , chaos beasts return to your precious mongolia....hahahahaha idiot beast and chaos smell so bad..wow i can smell it. REMOVE BEASTMEN FROM THE PREMISES. you will get caught. Stirland+Reikland+Averland+Hochland+Middenland=kill beastmen... you will storm of chaos/todbringer alive in middenheim, Todbringer making album of middenheim. fast rap todbringer middenheim. we are rich and have gold now hahahaha ha because of todbringer... you are ppoor stink beast... you live in a shit pile hahahaha, you live in a yurt
todbringer alive numbr one #1 in middenland...fuck the beastmen ,..FUCKk ashol beasts no good i spit in the mouth eye of your shit stone and shit herd. todbringer aliv and real strong wizard kill all the beast animal with rap magic now we the drakwald rule. ape of the empire emperor franz fukc the great chaos god and lay egg this egg hatch and beastmen wa;s born. stupid baby form the eggn give bak our clay we will crush u lik a skull of pig. middenland greattst countrey

>>149859605

What did you expect? They would create a different beastpath style battle map for every single environment type? You really think CA would put in that much effort?

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>Have anti-corruption buildings in every town in a province
>One chaos hero walks into province
>+2%

>>149859906
The beastpath only exists in densely forested regions. It would make zero sense to make a beastpath map for any other environment. They probably just didn't want to deal with disabling the mechanic for very specific regions of the map and having people freaking out because of it.

>>149859906
They could have at least changed the ground texture and the tree models for beastpath battles in the wasteland. This shouldn't be much work

>>149859605
>people are actually giving CA their money for this overpriced half-assed dlc with a tacked on mini-campaign nobody asked for that you can only play as the fucking beastmen in

>>149859798
Shit yeah, that's some proper harpies right there. GW you da real MVP

>>149860062
>>149860056

>not realizing that this would equate to at least 3.5 Jabberslythes or in imperial measurements: 7 age of charlemagnes

>>149859875
Calm down, Toris Bodbringer, and eat your tendies

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>3 hours

>>149859875
So THIS is how the average MIDDENLANDER looks like, eh?

AHAHAHAHAHAH Stupid FAT FUCKS.
You are all WEAK. DISGUSTING. DEPLORABLE. DEGENERATE.
Your women look like ACTUAL FRIDGES.

BAN ASSUALT FRIDGES BAN ASSAULT FRIDGES MIDDENLAND MIDDENLAND MIDDENLAND

BEASTMEN, our men are bred with HONOR and DIGNITY.

And look over at our disgusting FAT fuck neighbors in the URCCSSTE (UNITED RUINOUS CORPORATE COCK SUCKING STATES OF THE EMPIRE).

Most of you couldn't even fulfill the basic requirements of personal fucking hygiene. AHAHAHAHA.

You people are a NATION IN DECLINE. It shows it in how horribly lamed you all are.

Hell, if any of you came up to Beastmen territory?

Hahhaaa, it would be FUCKING OVER. All of our women (who are hotter and much less sluttier) would laugh and spit in your fat wobbling faces.

Me and the dudes would fucking beat the fuck out of you and hold you all down, each of us taking turns SHITTING on your crying disgusting MIDDENLAND faces

Lol, and you disgusting people have the fucking GALL to say that Beastmen are "irrelevant"?

Must be that infamous Middenland """"""""education"""""""", stupid fat fucks.
Fuck Middenland, and fuck all of the Middenlanders reading this comment.

If I could line all of you up in a bloodbowl field and punch you really fucking hard in the face, I would in a heartbeat. TWICE.

That's right fat fucks, in Beastmen territory, we can actually run the distances of bloodbowl fields because we have actual fitness.

What do you fucks have, eh?

Fuck off.

Fuck you for mass killings of innocents in the wars against Beastmen

Fuck you for creating Ulric

Fuck you for causing the Norscan migrant crisis

Fuck you for the killings of Beastmen at the hands of White Wolves

Fuck you for Todbringer

Fuck you for creating civilization

And MOST OF ALL, FUCK YOU FOR ROBBING MY BEASTMEN OF A CULTURE, you FAT FUCKING FUCKS.

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>>149859875
>>149860195
Have memes gone too far?

>>149860195

this is some next-level autism, good job

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>>149860195
You faggots don't even have jabbers

>>149859875
>>149860195
Crying Tod wojak with smug Khazrak pepe when?

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>>149860195
>>149859875

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>>149859875
What the fuck did you just fucking say about me, you man-filth? I’ll have you know I beat the last gorlord in my warherd, and I’ve been involved in numerous secret raids on Middenland, and I have over 300 confirmed kills. I am trained in vanguard deployment and I’m the top shitter in the entire Drakwald. You are nothing to me but just another piece of meat. I will rape you until you bleed with fury the likes of which has never been seen before in these woods, mark my fucking words. You think you can get away with saying that shit to me over the winds of magic? Think again, man-filth. As we speak I am contacting my secret network of spies across the Drakwald and your force is being traced right now so you better prepare for the ambush, fuckmeat. The ambush that wipes out the pathetic little thing you call your eye. You’re fucking dead, Tod. I can be anywhere, anytime, and I can shit on you in over seven hundred ways, and that’s just with my own ass. Not only am I extensively trained in horny combat, but I have access to the entire arsenal of the Rapemen and I will use it to its full extent to wipe your miserable ass off the face of the Old World, you little shit. If only you could have known what unholy retribution your little “clever” comment was about to bring down upon you, maybe you would have held your fucking tongue. But you couldn’t, you didn’t, and now you’re paying the price, you goddamn idiot. I will shit fury all over you and you will drown in it. You’re fucking dead, kiddo.

>3 hours
https://youtu.be/ez90azx4LKk

>The AI never send their Cygors into melee.

That's that I guess. Thanks CA.

https://youtu.be/Hi2wykNRolQ

Prince of Macedon getting btfo by Indypride.

>>149860576
JUST

...huh that's odd. I'm fucking around doing small scale custom battles to test some units. Watching Kholek just beastmode things 1v1. Had him vs unmounted Manfred...and I think he was doing more damage per swing than he should.

Purely anecdotal but based on Manfred's armor I wouldn't have expected the non-ap damage to be as much as it was. It was something like a 1300 to 800 shift in health.

Also Sigvald vs Grimgor is so not close as to be disgusting.

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>>149860398
>my lunchbreak ends right as the dlc gets released

https://www.reddit.com/r/totalwar/comments/4uuhxd/beastmen_dlc_review_and_overview/

Are Al and Grace hinting that Todbringer is unlockable after beating Eye for an eye?

>>149860757
How are they hinting at Todbringer being unlocked?
I guess there will be a victory cutscene or something

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If your buy besatmen your a cuck and should fucking leave /twg forever

>>149860576
PoM spiraling into suicide when?
Feel like it's been all downhill since the shitshow that was him backseat driving for Joey

>>149860940

$15 is a good price for a new race + campaign

>>149860958
The battle where he only ordered around 3 units and completely forgot about the rest of his army? That was funny.

>>149860940
>If your're not enlgish spaek your're a cuck and should fucking leave /twg forever
Fick dich Kanake

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>>149860576
>Not spamming overpowered devolve

>>149860940
>being too poor to afford DLC

>>149860684


From 2904 to 2294. 600. Which is higher then Kholeks damage. What the hell.

2294 to 1739. 555
1775 - 1198. 577. (string of misses + vampire healing raised his health)
1204 - 728. 476.

Kholek's weapon strength is 520 (120, 400 ap). Manfred has 90 armor. I would expect every swing would be sub-500. Further Manfreds health only changes because of his own selfheals so if I'm having trouble tracking his health it should be reducing the damage gap.

I'm seriously wondering if Kholek gets some bonus damage if he knocks something over.

>>149860576
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GWkxCEpVvTA

He lost the other two battles they played too. Not even his precious Sigvald could save him.

>>149861283
Jesus, PoM, what happened to you?

>>149861283
>>149861110
>>149860958
>>149860662
>>149860576
I thought PoM was the greatest Total War player alive? What happened to him?

>>149861320
Wasn't he the guy that supposedly never lost a battle?

>>149857653
Region specific

The kingdoms of Ind are mentioned as being at war with a race of tiger and snake themed Beastmen

>>149860850
>Milkandcookies complains about there being only one playable faction for the new campaign
>Grace and Al tell him that he should really finish it.
>The campaign has a faction select screen, despite there being only one selectable faction.

Seems like the rest get unlocked when you win.

>>149860757
Seems like it.

>>149861385
Exactly
>>149861360
He got cucked hard when everyone else managed to do better than him at that one battle

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>>149861138
>>being too poor to afford DLC
Getting ripped off for a FUCKING CHAOS RESKIN FACTION

>>149861484
>Seems like the rest get unlocked when you win.
Dunno if they're really hinting at that but you're right, sounds reasonable enough!
Would be really damn cool playing as Boris Todbringer, lets hope it's true

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>>149861634

Dorfs or Orcs for my third campaign, /twg/?

>>149861785
Beasts

>>149861859
As soon as they go on a 50% discount, senpai.

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post yfw you're running down routed troops

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>>149861910

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=88SOwK7Ocsk
NOT LONG BOYZ

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>>149861910
ignore filename

HAHAHAHA HUMANS WILL GET WHAT THEY DESERVE. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ez90azx4LKk

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>>149861910
>Download the Chaos Lores mod.
>Lore of Slaanesh has a spell that causes massive damage to routing troops.
>mfw watching them all drop like flies without moving a muscle.

Am i getting memed or do ppl actually want the furry dlc?

NAGASH WAS

>>149862245

That's skaven

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> Tomb Kings still not announced

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>>149861910

Can you play against the beastmen if you don't have the dlc?

>>149862414
No, CA send Joey or Grace if she's busy to rape you until you buy the dlc full price.

>>149862481
Is DLC refundable?

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>>149861910

>>149862414
Yeah they'll be on the campaign map. Considering the start positions, people are expecting them to make things a bit more interesting. Estalia and Bretonnia should have something to worry about. Badlands may not be only orcs vs dwarfs.

Should also provide areas of corruption for Chaos Warrior playthroughs.

>>149862534

Yes.

>>149862414

Yes.

>>149862481
B-but girls can't rape boys!

>3 hours

Soon.

>>149857128

Beastmen can reproduce naturally, but every human child born has a small chance of being born as a beastman. Usually the human parents abandon it in the forest and it joins a warherd.

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>>149857653

If we had beastmen of all animals it would get pretty confusing pretty fast. What would the difference be between a lizard beastmen or a rat beastman and lizardmen/skaven? That's probably why GW didn't expand on the idea.

Beastmen that worship specific gods are known to mutate in specific ways however. Slaangors develop gaudy fur patterns like tigers whereas Tzaangors morph into birdmen.

>>149862845
goatfuckers

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>>149857717
Are they succubi or just brood cows?

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>>149861910

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>>149861910

>>149863060
I have no clue, dunno if there's even an official picture of a Beastwoman

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>>149861910

>>149863060

Some are cows, some look slightly human. But ungors are male half-human beastmen and they look hideous, so don't expect the women to be fuckable in any way.

>>149862534
not if you preordered it, yes otherwise

>>149863435
The mack daddy of Arlen

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>>149861910

>me on the right

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>>149861910

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2 AND A HALF HOURS REMAINING NIGGERS.

2 AND A HALF HOURS REMAINING.

Are you ready for some fat greasy bullcock, Elector Cucks?

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>>149861910

What's good about the Lore of Metal? Where does it shine vs other Lores?

(For that matter what about Celestial? Or Light? I know net in light is great but aside from that)

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What is your guys average campaign map FPS? for TW:W?

>>149864007
50-60. Drops during AI turns in the late game though, thanks to endless stacks of chaos fucking shits.

>>149864007
'bout tree fiddy

>>149864007

I have a R9 270X, and get around 60 frames in battle. 35-55 if I zoom in.

Don't know about the campaign map though, but it runs smoothly enough.

>>149864007
About the same as >>149864097

>>149863417
Aren't harpies technically beastwomen?

>>149861910
No face when I'm playing shitty dwarfs
Fuck that faction

>>149863987
>Metal
it should excel at killing armoured troops, but it's shit because CA can't be assed to put in the effort, there's some nice buffs and nasty debuffs too, but horribly outclassed

>Celestial
No idea what's the point of this one desu, decent buffs i guess? also, the comet of casandora should destroy "deathstars"

>Light
Purge demons, remove chaos, vanquish undead!
nice buffs, amazing hexes (the fucking net) and some decent damage spells

>>149863987
Final Transmutation, the buffs, and the debuffs are good. But other than that it suffers from the scaling issue, so it's not a very good lore at the moment.

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While we're all waiting for the pooening, redpill me on BloodBowl 2, /twg/. Is it worth it at 66% off or should I just skip it entirely? I kind of enjoyed BB1, but never got hugely into it, if that`s any help.

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>>149864147
>>149864141
>>149864097
What settings do you lot play on? I have a 980 yet constantly have fps in the 40s. Picture related.

>>149859798
More of these please

>>149864215
Weeell, I guess you're right.
Dunno if they can give birth to Beastmen though

>>149860850
>playing as Middenland without their unique shit like White Wolves or Teutogen Guard
matters not

>>149864283
There is no campaign as in bb1 and most of the races are behind dlc paywalls so if you have the spare cash then I personally see no reason not to get it.

>>149864283
just torrent it first, that way you can get all the dlc for free.

>>149864298
Exactly the same but no distortion effects and SSAO, using a GTX970 though.
Maybe you have lots of ofter stuff running in the background? Too much heat building up? Old drivers?

>>149864298
Just drop some meme settings, like SSAO and water detail.

>>149864298
Same for me with 970
Getting frustrated not knowing why my performance is so shit

>>149860940
This tbqh

Dont give in to the jew

>>149864407
Can you screenshot your settings please

>>149864478
Maybe it's because you have unlimited video memory on and that fucks you up?

>>149864298
>>149864407
Oh yeah, as >>149864417 said, water detail, also sky detail (and other stuff I don't remember anymore) in the preferences file

>>149861004
You're paying 15 bucks for incomplete faction, then you will pay another 15 bucks in the Wood Elves DLC just so you have additional Beastmen units. So 30 bucks for Beastmen.

>>149864550
Currently at work but once I'm home I can do that

>>149864253
My own assessment of Metal is that it's outclasses.

Now that I look over Heavens. Harmonic Convergence is really good. Area affect "fighting bonus" buffs with low cost I've found are really reliable for any fight. +melee attack and +melee defense is a good combination that should work regardless of unit tier. Oh and duration higher then cooldown.

Curse of Midnight wind looks okay.

Heavens also has a lot of attack spells that are Bombardment but Bombardment spells are eh. I suppose Heavens is in a "certain classes of attack spells need buffs" category.

>>149864263
Final Transmutation can be a bit awkward. It feels like the one great spell in the lore though.

Also I think Lore of Fire is pretty good. Mostly on the back of Cascading Fire Cloak and Flaming Sword of Rhuin which are cheap and spammable. Fireballs a good magic missile and the other three damage spells tend to be among the better of their types in my experience though by no means do you need to use them.

Is Light of Battle in Lore of Light even useful? When would you use unbreakable to good effect anyway?

>>149864617
You are not buying Wood Elves for the missing Beastmen units so no you are not paying $30 for Beastmen

>>149864617

They said there will be Race packs which aren't connected to campaigns.

>>149861360
TWWH is not total war.

>>149864721
>Total War is not Total War
WHfags BTFO

>>149860940

I wanna buy it, but will wait until a decent sale or for g2a to have it listed for cheap. Don't really give two fucks about the mini-campaign, so I'm not gonna pay full price for some shit I don't want

>>149864298
670, mostly high settings with decent enough FPS. Thinking of maybe upgrading to 970 or 1060, probably a good time to.

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>>149864721
Tell that to CA

>>149864747
With the exception of empire, all games with total war in front of their titles are spin offs.

>>149863491
>so don't expect the women to be fuckable in any way.

This.

Why do you think Beastmen go around raping human and Wood Elf women?

DLC postponed by a month and price increased by 20$, they want to add a new campaign to it.

>>149864367
So is there no singleplayer content aside from custom matches? That would be pretty lame desu.

>>149864337
they tend to keep away from the beastmen herds they follow. They're only there to steal scraps anyway. To be fair though, if a beastman caught and raped a harpy it\d probably be able give birth to an beastman. Never read anything in lore saying harpies can\t give birth. They might end up just eating the baby anyway though

>>149864916
>Why do you think Beastmen go around raping human and Wood Elf women?
Because it's fun!

Increasing Beastmen population with Beastwomen is serious business

>Beastmen has so few units they have to had some units from the Chaos roster

Why is this allowed?

>>149864808
That GMG sale had it for 9,99 bongdollars which is honestly pretty great for a mini-campaign race pack.

>>149864916

Because raping wood elf men is too easy.

>>149864941
You can set up cups and tournaments yourself with random teams in them but it is not streamlined on one big map like it was in bb1