/dsg/ - Souls General

>keep "trying" to get darkmoon and aldritch summons

help how do i stop
i fucking hate this game now jesus

How the FUCK do you do the painted world skip?

oh my fucking god i keep falling off of the fucking ledge for no god damn reason. I've literally NEVER failed this shit before in a thousand runs

>>149806095
Which skip?

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>No pine bundle equivalents for Human and Pale pine resins
>of the throwable consumables, there's a Pyro one, a DEX/Quality one, and a Faith one but nothing for Magic or Dark builds even though there were options in 2 for them

>>149806306
Do sorcerers really need them?

>>149806306
>Pyro throwable
What?

NON-LUCIFER THREAD

>>149806315
>>149806315
>>149806315

>>149806512

Firebombs.

>>149806490

It's always nice to have OPTIONS, especially when they were in previous games.

>>149806615
>thread wars
Pathetic.

9th for crestfallen

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>>149806306
>no pursuers grenade

>>149806643
I suppose, it just seems to be a bit redundant to me since Sorceress already have good ranged options.

>>149806643
Firebombs have Str/Dex scaling dude

>>149806968

I'm mistaken then, I thought 3 had more options then it did.

>>149806306
There should be corrosive urns too to punish afk hosts.
And armor filled with acid flasks so it corrodes your weapons the more you attack it.

>>149806968
They had Arc scaling in BB. I think giving thrown items str and dex scaling is a good thing though, since it at least gives them a half way decent ranged option. I always wanted that because it was kinf of unfair that Sorcerers got decent melee options.

hi /dsg/, I have two slabs left and need a good weapon for crits and a good halberd, my stats are 18/18/37/37 so which weapons should I use?

>>149807243
What's up with those stats? They are all over the place. Are you at least using rings to some of them?

>>149806968
WHAT??

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Who do you want to be your Souls gf/bf ?

>>149807352
a dark magic build with the min requirements to use the weapons I like
then I noticed only one dark magic spell was useful

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>>149807534
i miss my creepy morally ambiguous souls bf

>>149807412
Throwing knives do too. Kukri do surprisingly high damage on a Quality build. It won't compete with a sorcerer's magic (just like their melee won't compete with a Quality user), but it will be great at finishing off people, especially if they try to run away to heal.

>bust my ass off trying to get Scorpioness Najka to attack the tree so I can get the treasure
>it's a fucking flame butterfly
>spend one hour exploring every single location in sanctum city and pick up everything
>the only good thing I got is a shitty sorcery

>>149807664
man, that's really neat. I always felt like they missed one or two opportunities when it came to throwing weapons and tools.

>>149807650
In that case just use any non-unique weapon and infuse it with Dark. Also, pyromancy should be really decent with those stats too. The lothric knight sword is apparently really good for crits. Since it is a long sword it also is good in general. I am not sure which Halberd to recommend though, since I don't really use them. The BK Halberd is really popular, but you can't infuse it.

>>149807887
Agreed. It always seemed like a waste because without scaling they became practically worthless right after the start of the games.

Need ideas for SL1 deprived twink builds.

Already running dual Dark Hands and invading in high wall, curious what weapons I can use with Knight Ring + Hunter's Ring + Carthus Milkring (for a grand total of 15 STR and 18 DEX).

>>149807534
you

>>149807534

Anon.

REAL THREAD HERE
>>149806315
>>149806315
tripfag samefagging hard to try and bump his own thread fucking pathetic

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post souls characters

>>149806801
DS3 had the best Crestfallen because he actually does shit and can help you out in the game.
Dark Souls had the best strong warrior who gets in trouble but repays his debt at the end because of the humor.
Demon's Souls had the best mystical noble who you have to help out every once in a while since he had an inherent connection to the story.
Demon's Souls had the best Patches since his gimmick was new but Pate/Creighton was a good spin on the gimmick.

What are your favorite repeating characters?

>>149808216
curse hack them and kill their npcs

>>149807656
>didn't give the best gesture

Shitty Oswald ripoff

>>149808216
https://www.reddit.com/r/onebros/comments/4gugzx/complete_list_of_dark_souls_3_sl1_weapons_with/

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g-guys..
i-i am free

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>>149808275
Oh my

>>149808216
For my sl1 playthrough I ran priestess ring + saints ring for RAWASS and tears of denial, you could also throw on both Loyds sword and red tears tone to get damage buffs like 50% of the time

>>149808216
Lothric Knight Sword, add in a hornet ring for good measure. You might try infusing it with the fire gem too.

>>149808590
how

>>149808407
>Pate/Creighton was a good spin on the gimmick.

How so? You never really got caught in the traps yourself. It would have been much better if they were doing shit like setting traps for each other, but you kept setting them off or getting caught in them by accident.

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>>149808590

this will never not feel good

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>>149808379
Madman wizard

>>149808590
Did you farm the Knights or take the easy way out and get invasions?

>>149808656
You also need dusk ring to cast tears at sl1 but you can just hardswap it and saints after you cast it since tears has no time limit

Right fucking now, I just witness actual evidence that enemies surviving what should be a fatal blow with only a pixel of health left is hardcoded

>Walk up to mimic
>Charm it so it sleeps
>Charge up 2HR2 on Greatsword UG
>702 damage, little under half it's HP is gone
>While it wakes up to fall back asleep(?) I charge up another 2HR2, 702 damage, another half is gone
>It is stationary, unaggro'd, so I charge up another 2HR2 thinking it couldn't possible survive
>Inexplicably does 456 fucking damage, still alive and surviving with a pixel of HP
>Wakes up really quickly and immediately goes to do it's grab attack
>R1 and luckily it managed to come out before the mimic instakills me

Do mimics have higher absorption when in chest form? I legitimately do not understand why the first 2 fully charged 2HR2s did full damage and the last hit that should have been more than enough to kill it just didn't

Anything to make the game just THAT much more difficult, even if it makes absolutely no sense, I guess

>>149808845
Yeah, that's why he wasn't my favorite. But it was interesting to have for the first time two characters that gave off red flags.

>>149808914
Congrats on finding a use for that helmet that doesn't look stupid. I didn't think it was possible.

>>149808407
Wait, who else can you compare to Ostrava in the other games?

I think Creighton is the best murderhobo simply because he's directly honest instead of putting an awful facade(I killed all other equivalents during my first playthrough and only spare Lautrec/Leonhardt because unique drops)

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>>149808407
>What are your favourite repeating characters?
Crestfallen. If you ask me, he's the only character to have 100% spot on writing and voice acting throughout the series. I was initially taken aback to hear 3's new voice actor, but loved him anyway of course. I think my favourite iteration is 1's. If I'm not mistaken, he has more dialogue than any other Crestfallen, and his slightly sassy personality is the best of all.
>>149808481
I almost prefer him to Oswald, but they're both fantastic characters. I like how he's not just a carbon copy of Oswald like some other recurring characters, he's very similar of course but his personality is opposite.
>didn't give the best gesture
I could have sworn he teaches the character 'shrug'. Oh well.

Why is the chaos blade so shit?

>>149809091
Fair enough.

>>149808216
>>149808485
>>149808656
>>149808689
Just realized you can two-hand the Dragonslayer's Axe (infused raw and buffed with gold pine resin) with the Knight Ring and the Hunter Ring.

It's over boys.

>>149809240
Solaire, Anri and Lucatiel.

>>149809056
>Do mimics have higher absorption when in chest form?
I always thought they did. I never tested it, but they always seemed to just shrug off R1 spam when I was trying to kill them before they could get up.

>>149809259
I think it was FEEBLE CURSED ONE! who did.

>>149809259
>more dialogue than cresttalken warrior from das2

>>149809504
But you only need to help Solaire once and Lucatiel never. They're the ones to assist you.

anyone fancy guiding me through Dragon Aerie?

>>149809240
>Ostrava
I thought he was the Solaire equivalent.

>>149809358
Drakeblood greatsword with dark is better

>>149809259
I think Hawkwood is the best crestfallen, because for once he gets off his ass and goes after a goal. The cuck in 1 went hollow trying to do something, and the nigger in 2 did nothing the entire game, and also gave out the worst covenant. At least in 3, crestfallen goes full Highlander on your ass and you get to have a fight for the ages.

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>>149809259
>your face when Andre tells you that Hawkwood left something for you before leaving the Shrine.

>>149809283
>Why is the chaos blade so shit?
Depends which game. It was actually really strong in DaS1, for example.

does anyone want to help me with cathedral of the deep? sl22 pc

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>>149809563
guess I was just thinking of this little thing Cromwell does.
>>149809762
surely Oscar with his uncut content is the equivalent of Ostrava

>>149809762
He said mystical noble who you have to help every once in a while. I can't see anyone being similar to Ostrava here.

>>149809909

3 of course
Nobody plays the previous ones anymore

>>149809358
I'm just not a fan of limiting yourself to two-handed. It cuts you off from half the moveset, and locks you out of using anything in your left hand. It makes you really predictable and gets boring after awhile.

>>149809929
>Oscar uncut content

Kind of a sad loss, but Shiva's cut content would've made me hard

sl132 Dragon Aerie tackling it for the first time but I'd appreciate some help if anyone fancies it?

>>149809859
i skipped half that dialogue because I immediately spammed continue expecting it to be the same thing he always says

>>149808614
Damn, that pic is fantastic.
I love the smug mask we got, it should make a return.

>>149809985
Well okay. Realize that Demon's Souls doesn't have summons. Maybe it should've been "mystical noble that the player encounters multiple times throughout the story"

>>149809985
We don't really know Solaire's origins, but he was pretty mystical and helped you out. Lucatiel may not have been mystical, but she was a noble(-ish) that helped you out.

dlc when when when when when when when when when when when when when when when when when when when when when when when when when when when when when WHEN WHEN WHEN WHEN WHEN WHEN WHEN WHEN WHEN WHEN WHEN WHEN?!?!?!?!?!?!

>>149810003
Some people play them occasionally. I think the katana are really just to samey in DaS3, and with them all being pretty quick it comes down to just using the one with the best damage and range.

>>149810304
we already got the huelm, what else do you want?

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>>149810368
>DLC revealed
>It's an "equipment expansion pack" that adds shit to vendors
>All the DLC is Fallout 4 style garbage
>No actual content

>>149809985
Oscar was literally cut and paste Ostrava before his entire story was trashed

>>149809859
>that wasn't an actual boss fight with a fogwall, a Hawkwood, the Deserter HP bar, a midfight use of his dragon stone and AW's theme in the background but with only one voice doing the choir

>>149810537
>Fallout 4
SHUT UP
IT COULD HAVE BEEN GOOD
WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY

>>149810159
Shiva is probably the one character I would have liked to see have his full quest line. That and maybe the merchant in DaS1, I am pretty sure the pendant originally has something to do with his quest, before it became a Miyazaki Meme.

>>149810304
The mask we got was pretty good because it was the perfect fuck you look to symbolized the bait and switch they pulled on us.

>>149810304
A Manikin sabre was cut from DS3 so maybe in the DLC? Tbh I'd kinda want to see the Manikin repurposed into these really freaky puppets that can do moves impossible to humans because they're just mannequins. Or give them the ability to white branch into objects and A.I that retreats when they're at low health and white branch when they're outside the player's vision.

>>149810537
I wouldn't even mind, to be honest. The best part of the BB DLC was all the fun new gear. Most of it was completely unique compared to the stuff in the base game.

>>149810317
>>149810324
Yeah, I'm just saying, Ostrava is more of the inexperienced adventurer who the player gas to save and assist, while Solaire and Lucatiel are the capable and determined warrior who assist you and whose ultimate fate the player can help make not as futile

>>149810762
That's why it needs to be in DaS3;^)

>>149811027
I think the idea is that your journey just sort of lines up with theirs. Ostrava is sort of like a cross between them and the Onions.

>>149811063
Why? DaS3 was pretty good. Not great, but not DaS2-tier shit either.

>>149809056
>Do mimics have higher absorption when in chest form
yes, by far

>>149811350
I personally agree more with the other anons that he was closer to what Oscar would be.
Onions seem to be Biorr likes.
Though Anri feels much closer to Ostrava.

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>heavy saints bident on 27STR/60FAI with darkmoon blade
>400 damage per 2hr1 with that immense fucking range
jesus

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FC when

>>149811489
>DaS3 was pretty good.
It may be a good game, but it's a terrible Souls game. Even DaS2 is way better.

>>149811653
Maybe. I usually don't consider cut content though. I try to evaluate the game on what we got, instead of what might have been.

After you kill Pate/Creighton and open the trap chest and get taunted by the one you saved, if you go back, is that person still there, in the room where they fought? Can you talk to them?

>>149811828
>buff falls off/duel charmed
>back to 15 damage a hit
ah................. the power.................of faith................

>>149811923
>being so retarded you get hit by a duel charm
>especially with a fast weapon that has an immense fuckload of range

>>149811874
HAHAHA, no. DaS2 is the least souls like game in the series. Even BB, which was supposed to have it's own flavor, was closer to the souls games than DaS2. No surprise, DaS2 was the only game with minimal Miyazaki interaction.

>>149811874
>it's a good game just not a good X game
Fuck off

>>149811885
No, they disappear from the game.

>>149812097
Elaborate on why DS2 is the "least souls-like"

>>149811885
No they despawn during the next screen transition and there's no way to backtrack to that spot. I think if you ce it they don't have new dialog either, they're just gone from the world forever

Do covenant "levels" carry over to NG+ in DaS3?

>>149812320
The departure from souls mechanics is the biggest offender.

>>149812375
Thank god they do.

>>149812375
Nope.

I had 26 ears turned in and wanted to slab an estoc because I was tired of the shit rapier moveset so I went to NG+4.

Sigh.

>>149812375
Yes, if you max out a covenant it's still that way in NG+

>>149812435
Wich mechanics, you're going to have to be more specific

>>149811864
That's a big guy

>>149812530
Soul Memory is the most obvious and offensive.

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>>149812451
>sigh

lads I just met that ancient dragon dude (DSII)

he gave me a key

is there any point to attacking him?

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What have you done to make Mommy Rosaria happy today?

>>149812449
>>149812451
>>149812492

I'm getting mixed messages here. Let's say I turn in 10 of a covenant item so I technically reach rank 1/2. I now move on to NG+. Do I still have to turn in 30 in total or only 20 more?

>>149807656
https://youtu.be/Ugm8gxFtzlU?t=1m55s

I love how even when he's commending you he sounds as if he's belittling you as well.

>>149812679
yeah. he drops an indestructible longsword

>>149812612
For you.

>>149811885
That reminds me, after Marvelous Chester invades and you kill him, you can go back and talk to him casually.

>>149812617
So because they fixed twinking, it isn't a souls game?
Wow.

>>149812617
If thats the only thing then i don't know what the fuck you're on about with least souls-like dude

SM is a shit mechanic yes, but i dont see how level-based MP is suddenly 'part of the souls formula'

>>149812720
All covenant ranks carry over to NG+.

http://darksouls3.wiki.fextralife.com/New+Game+Plus

>>149812720
Test it with Rosaria, not like there aren't dozens of tongues around

>>149812720
Covenant levels carry over between NG+ cycles. If not it would fuck with the leader boards in those covenants.

Can DaS3 detect cheat engine hooking into your game when you're online? Can it detect infinite stamina?

>>149812679

He gives you a giant soul, if you decide to fight him beware he has a shitton of health and takes forever. Stick to the claws of his hindlegs to attack and just run towards his tail when he flies upward.

>>149812831
>>149812856
>>149812901
I see, thanks.

>>149812451
shut the fuck up you idiot.

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>>149812743
don't think he does mate

>>149812784
It didn't even come close to fixing twinking. All it did was negate the need for builds, ruin replay value, etc.

>>149812958

Why do you want to know that, fuccboi?

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Anyone up for some PC coop in Irithyll?

>>149812816
It's not the only thing. I even said that it is just the most obvious and offensive. That clearly indicates that There is more than one issue with it.

>>149812962
doesn't really seem worth it then, thanks

>>149812820
>play dark souls 2
>actually have good weapon variety as well as moveset
ah............... the power................of shit souls 3

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>>149808986
>>149808876
>>149808801
i farmed knights while waiting for summon, and by summon i mean whole 2 of them.
but i am free now, no more suffering. only dreams now

>>149813047
DaS2 has by far the most build variety and replayability.
Go to bed Luci, you leak autism again.

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Did i just get gud?

>>149813185
It's not. It's the most Bullshit fight in the entire game.

>>149813004
Get angry, you foolish knave.

I was doing nothing but letting the man know that, yes, progressing to NG+ will reset his covenant progress.

It's true.

>>149813181
Then list motherfucker
You opened this can

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>>149813364
>>149813221
>DaS2 has the MOST build variety and weapon/moveset variety
>go into PvP
>same 3 "meme unviable weapons"
>puzzling stone sword
>powerstanced warp sword
>HEXESHEXESHEXES
>haveljester
>nothing else

>>149813159
If I had a Jotaro character, I'd be down for tackling Pope.
Shame that ain't happening.

>>149813364
>99 in every stat is build variety
KEK

>>149812679
It's a fun fight and you dont lose anything from doing it. Would recommend.

>>149813436
>he killed Ornstein first
shitter detected

>>149813591
You can have 99 in every stat in the other games too...

>>149813436
>killing Smough last

No.

>>149813667
Ornstein first makes p1 a lot harder since he is lightning resist and my glove was only +8 but makes p2 instawin.

Smough first makes p1 instawin since i do like 450 dmg per hit on him but p2 is a lot harder.

I dont know if the difference is that great? I am high of adrenaline right now either way.

>>149813525
No, I didn't. The other guy did when he said that DaS2 was a better Souls game than DaS3. A claim he hasn't justified even slightly.

could i still find people if i do an ultra anti-twink in ds1 at burg and dry finger? (ie max level 99 in all)

>>149813747
other games don't have soul memory

>>149813882
The list that shit anyway, you got my attention

>>149813747
>...

Really now?

>>149813930
+99 everything is literally impossible unless you dupe for hours. And at that point why not use a character editor and max out your health to go full cheater?

>>149813879
>I don't know if the difference is that great?
Smough is basically a repeat of his Phase 1 self: unbelievably easy to kill in 1000 different ways. You're a LOSER if you killed Smough last for ANY other reason than NG+ getting his soul.

Ornstein Phase 2 is where it's at.

>>149813747
Not if you want to connect to other people in PvP without cheating. SM made having 99 in every stat, legitimately, the only viable option. If you got souls then spending them on anything other than weapon upgrades or levels was a complete waste because of SM, and not spending them was even more retarded since they would count against you either way.

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holy shit this just happened

>invade at lothric castle
>host has one sundude with him
>lure them into coming into the church where the two healers and the one red eyed knight is
>red knight kills sundude while i roll into the host with thorns
>dude is scared af, runs back to bonfire, summon the same sundude again
>everything repeats, red eye knight kills him
>he summons him a 3rd time
>i just roll at them in thorns, they dont hit
>they finally trap me in a corner
>black crystal out

>>149814050
>implying i wouldn't just cheat engine

>And at that point why not use a character editor and max out your health to go full cheater
because i'd still be technically playing on even ground by not using actual cheat techniques like you mentioned

>>149813879
Killing Orn first is babby mode, and locks you out of getting the Leo ring too.

>>149813747
and you find nobody to play against, all you can do is host in hotspots and designated ganking places and even then the activity is shit compared to the meta SL

>>149814070
Learn to read the post dude. I said ornstein first makes P1 harder because of the upgrade path on my character. I agree with you that smough p2 is a joke. I killed the boss the first time i got past p1, and everytime i tried to do smough p1 i got my ass handed to me in p2 but made it through p1 without fail

>>149813075
Because these fags who don't dare to come near me despite outnumbering me two to one, having more health and having more heals honestly don't deserve to have fun.

>>149813980
No, because you are just going to nit-pick and shit-post about it like you did when I mentioned SM. You've made it pretty clear that you are NOT looking for an actual discussion.

If you are actually curious about it go read the archives. That shit was discussed to death back then.

>>149814316
>learn to read the post
>bab who couldn't get gud

>>149814316
Phase one is easy no matter what. Killing Orn first is actually easier though, because he is so much faster than Smo, you can easily get him alone. Smo's second phase is also much easier, and just retardedly easy if you use the pillars strategy.

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>>149814404
>DaS2 fags trying to be the bigger anons for once

>>149814404
How was that shitposting?
I questioned how level-based MP is part of the souls-formula as opposed to SM
Then you mentioned that SM isnt the only thing
So what are those things dude

>>149814690
Whatever. The challenge is completing the game on sl1 not using the hardest tactics for every boss. This whole discussion is irrelevant because if i wanted it even harder i would just do like... a no hit run? idk

>>149814696
I'm the guy you quoted, and I am not arguing for DaS2. They aren't trying to be the bigger ones either. They are just looking to shit post.

>>149814091
>>149814249
SL 387's are the only things you invade in the forest you goddamn dastards.
Not to mention all the darkmoms. Builds are a myth in DaS1.

I have one question about fighting Maria.
When in her second and third form she does the powerful attacks where she puts her blades together and then ether pokes blood, or does a big slash vertical or horizontal.
Is there any kind of clear visual or audio clue to when you should dodge those.

I tried counting seconds, but I don't have timing for that shit.

>>149814403
Maybe they're having fun pissing you off

Either way, the game allows them to do that, but no cheating

>>149814839
>How was that shitposting?

See:
>>149813364
>>149812816

You never actually defended SM or tried to discuss it. You just started flinging shit.

And Soul-Level based matchmaking has been part of the series since Demon's Souls and in every one of the games OTHER THAN DaS2. It's pretty obvious that it is part of the formula.

>>149814972
The forest actually tries to put you with people of a similar level. It's only when it can't find them that it expands the range it looks for.

The forest isn't even the most popular hot spot.

>>149815134
I always dodged two seconds after hearing the "ching" sound.

During third form I either remained as far away as possible or went full offense

>>149815134
Most of the time you are better off staying close to her and dodging behind her for most of the attacks.

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>>149815203
the first one isnt even me, i wouldnt defend SM ever in any of its forms, i do appreciate what they were trying to achieve with SM.

So what other things are in DS2 that arent souls-like

>>149815135
>Pissing me off
I think I'm the one pissing them off. I'm stopping them from playing the game. The host even popped a seed.

>Defending pathetic cucks who need baby sitters to play through PvE

>>149815337
Forest/burg/town are the most popular spots though.

>>149815403
Problem in staying far is the poke which travels full area.

>>149815498
I try, but she seems to be good at doing 360 no-skope pokes right up me ass.

>>149815584
Kiln, Burg, Town were the most popular. The Forest was for people that enjoyed hunting gankers.

>>149815575
>not getting the mentality behind those players

At best you'll get a DC/suicide. Also, if you really think anything justifies CE then you deserve all unfair fights you get while invading.

>tfw no humanoid boss that punishes parries with a riposte of their own

parryfags btfo

>>149815769
By poke I assume the thrust right? I like to dodge that one with unlocked side rolls

>arrive home eager to play
>first opponent exists to remind me how broken ss are and how shitty all great weapons are

this kills the player

>>149815769
In that case, you can beat her just by getting her in a corner and beating her ass with R1 spam.

https://youtu.be/P1109yMksss

>>149815961
>then people just fight him like every other unparriable humanoid boss

>>149815961
I came up with a humanoid boss once. When you parry him, his sword arm gets deflected to the other side and he looks stunned

Only, if he turns his head and looks at you he'll parry and riposte you when you try to riposte

If you parry him and he doesn't look back you can safely riposte

>>149816248
>this theoretical boss can only take damage from magical attacks

>>149815852
>if you really think anything justifies CE then you deserve all unfair fights you get while invading.

This. Nothing justifies cheating, especially if they are not cheating. I don't care how "cheap" you think they are being. Shitters like this are why no one takes PC gamers seriously.

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>BB has all the fun weapons
>BB will never be on PC
>It's the one game that really visually interested me
Still bitter.

>>149816164
Stop limiting yourself to one weapon. A build should really have multiple weapons that cover for one another's shortcomings.

>>149815852
>>149816337
>Not doing everything in power to cleanse the community of literal cancer
Too bad you'll never be rad

>>149816440
Just wait till the PS4.5 comes out and you can get a regular 4 on the cheap anon

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>>149815575
>he doesn't cospcoop as Rhea/Vince/Nico or sorc CIA with phantoms Smee and Maimen
It's like you don't even know how to have fun

>>149816464
If I'm going to be this meta then I'd rather not play. If I wanted competitive crap I'd play a fighter, I just want to grab a weapon I like that fits the theme of my character and have some brawls.

Since DaS using what you like instead of meta has been working less and less.

>>149816464
>>149816653
meta weapons are fucking cancer.

eventually weapons should be continually nerfed until everything sucks equally

>>149816634
As a cosplay fag myself I have infinite patience for hosts and phantoms who do themed stuff., even if they meme all over me when I lose.

Random fags who literally cannot play the game and take advantage of Memeahacki's awful changes are toxic.

>>149816653
>>149816732
I didn't say anything about being meta. I said use more than one weapon.

>>149816732
I don't think anyone disagrees that SS are extremely overpowered.

I mean, there have been overpowered things before, but this is a new level. I'd say it's worse than Dark Bead.

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Is there any interest, I repeat ANY INTEREST in a PS4 FC????

pls respond

>invade spooky skeleton tomb with SL35 moundmaker
>have instant matchups with lots of goofy and spooky hijinks involving traps and skeleton balls
>get 30 shackles and switch to rosaria's fingers
>suddenly slow matchmaking and I always get paired against gank squads

am I just having bad luck?

>>149815961
If the boss gimmick is punishing taking risks and skilled play, then that's a pretty shitty boss desu.

Overall the idea that bosses should be punishing instead of enjoyable lead to stuff like Lud&Zallen.

>>149816863
I disagree that they are extremely OP. I think you are just shit at the game and would rather blame it on the game than admit you are shit.

>>149816816
Please don't use that word

Anybody need help with anything?

Am bored.

>>149817053
Found the SS user.

>>149817085

I need a patch to at least make me want to play this borefest.

>>149817085
What system? I was about to do a dried finger run through post-pontiff up to the anal rodeo bonfire on PS4

>>149817021
Mound makers have a bigger range

>>149817112
Yes, I use a SS on one of my characters. I also use Great Swords, AGS, a Lothric Knight Spear, and Rapiers on my other characters. You personal attack don't make you any less of a salty scrub.

>tfw not a richfag so i can have every game on every system for the purpose of co-oping with dsg

>>149817250
>just shitter weapons

Try not copying twitch pvp faggots and use something that isn't meta for once.

I don't understand people like you. If you want to win so dawn hard, why don't just cheat? It's the same.

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>>149817054
What's the matter, anon? Triggered?

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>>149817317
>tfw buying a PS4 for Christmas so I can play BB and DS3 with stable framerate but want to upgrade pc so I could participate in pc fc bf fun

>>149817317
Not even being rich would justify the xbone

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>>149817384
>shitter tries calling the weapons he loses to "shitter" weapons to shame people into not using them because he can't beat them
KEK

>>149817250
>>149817053
This is the face of people that come to fightclubs that are for fun with meta twitch shit and get mad when people complain they are ruining everyone's fun. The kind of guy who pulls WP when the opponent's is on low life.

Must be one of those guys who take everything way to seriously in real life, weirding out people around.

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>>149817408
>yfw the DLC will introduce Thrall blowgunners that shoot toxic darts
>yfw they respawn and can climb back on the walls when threatened

>>149817634
The only time I ever use twitch is to watch Evo. I never watch Souls content on them. Also pulling out the WP is retarded. I throw Kukri to finish people off. Also, winning it fun, not that you would know.

>>149817746
>they will also use the chameleon spell to blend into the environment

>>149817879
Then why don't you just cheat a 20k damage weapon? You'll win every single fight.

>>149817746

they have to throw lloyds too

also ambush you with pincer attacks that you literally can't dodge unless you already know they are there

>>149817903
That would actually be great.

>>149817945
>Hurr Durr playing your best instead of letting a retard beat you is the same as cheating

You participation trophy kiddies are a barrel of laughs.

Man, Moonlight Greatsword is awesome. Are there any other weapons for sorc this good? Assume 18 points in strength, 14 pts in dex

>>149818318
You didn't say you play to win? If you cheat, you're guaranteed to win.

It's not what you want? To win no matter what? It doesn't matter if you have a huge advantage. It doesn't matter if you are exploiting the game weakness and from incompetence at balance. Winning is all that matters. Then just cheat.

>>149818413
Which game?

>>149818123
Mobs throwing Lloyd's has been actually one of the big game changers in trash mob fights since it makes your positioning in the fighting environs more important. The way thwy use these enemies is pretty clever imo and they don't overuse them.

>>149818519
Play-to-win != cheating

Playing-to-win means doing whatever it takes to win "within the rules."

That last part is important, kiddo.

>>149811653
I appreciate what they tried to do with Benhart but he didn't come even close to Biorr. Just shows what good voice acting alone can do.

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>>149818704
>he plays on easy mode
>and brags about it
>"kiddo"

I can't tell if people are pretending or not anymore

>>149818704
Have you ever looked at a weapon and thought "man that looks fun to use, but it doesnt have the best moveset and its AR is average at best" and then still used it because it looked fun?

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>Join Blue Sentinels/Dorkmoon
>Get summoned
>Find red
>Drop him lots of heals and consumables
>Black crystal out

Hosts are scum of the worst sort and deserve nothing but death.

>>149818527
DaS3, sorry.

>>149818953
>Beating people at the EVO finals is easy because they all play easy mode

You're delusional, kid.

>>149819027
I used the shotel in DaS1 against turtles.

>>149814070
lol wut? phase 2 ANYTHING is easy as hell. every move is highly telegraphed and most are avoidable even staying still. ornstein first is easier only because he's much faster than smough so it's easier to kill him without having smough catch up

>>149819027
People like him can't comprehend fun. They are so desperate to win everything. Maybe to compensate something.

See >>149819134
>I used the shotel in DaS1 against turtles.
Look what kind of answer he gave you. He can't even grasp the concept of using something that is crap just because you like it.

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I know a lot of people have a LOT of problems with DS3, my only real issue with it after 3 play throughs is all the fucking thralls. Jesus christ, why?

>>149819101
The sage rapier is pretty good. You'll need to get some more Dex though. It's worth it though. 18 dex plus the sage ring is basically max cast speed.

>>149816440
>no [CLANG] the moment he bites

>>149819305
The shotel was fun, and I could have just dead angled them instead.

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>Hears you stepping on bones from the other side of a cave
>Has a hurtbox on nearly every part of its body
>Only way of dealing with them is drawing out one at a time for 10 minutes or running for your life and doing serpentine maneuvers to the pinwheel room
>There is no bonfire after pinwheel boss
>The path to the next bonfire will almost necessarily take at least 3 tries if you are going in blind

Ebin meme From

>>149819134
Lucy put your trip back on

Wait wait wait wait.

Do healing miracles in DaS2 have a static healed amount? I just upgraded my chime a shit ton and I've noticed absolutely no difference in healing.

What le fug?

>>149819318
>Grand Archives
>Flamberge Thralls with heated weapons take off roughly half of your hp in one shot
>the axe thralls do that weird spazzy rage attack that almost always hits you
The worst part has to be the Cathedral where there's a tiny room with like 5 of them.
Fucking Lothric Special Forces.

>>149819856
You can just stagger them with SS R1 spam.

>>149819720
IIRC they scale from your Faith.

>>149819510

"Participation trophy" is one of his stock arguments. I guess he got tired of being ignored.

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>>149819960
neat

>>149819505
If you drop down to the Skeleton wheel room from above, you can just run to Pinwheel's boss room and you're safe.

>>149819510
Okay.

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>>149819134

>>149819945
I'm doing a Ultragreatswords/axes run.

>>149819505
>>Hears you stepping on bones from the other side of a cave
oh no, an enemy aggroes from 10 meters away, tragedy
>>Has a hurtbox on nearly every part of its body
almost as if it was covered in spikes
>>Only way of dealing with them is drawing out one at a time for 10 minutes or running for your life and doing serpentine maneuvers to the pinwheel room
>stand on a ledge
>create loud noise/hit them/from range until most of them are running on the wall below you
>plunge attack
WOOOOOOOOOW
>>There is no bonfire after pinwheel boss
literally 10 seconds away, git gud
>>The path to the next bonfire will almost necessarily take at least 3 tries if you are going in blind
>going in blind
maybe you should bring some fucking light in a dark as fuck area. you know necrofuckers drop their lanterns, right?

>>149819376
It was alright. Damage was nothing to write home about, desu, but the moveset is decent.

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which piece of gear looks the closest to pic related. Want to cosplay this glorious mofo

>>149820432
It's move set and speed are the main benefits since poise isn't really a thing in DaS3.

>>149820510
Sellsword chest.
Assassin hood.
Dunno about gloves.

>>149820510
warrior starter set?

>>149820303
this. people who have problems with skeleton wheels never made contact with the skeletons in demon souls 4-1

>pursuer can turtlepoke with his shield + sword
>use two whole bonfire aesthetics to revive the nigger
>disappointment ensues

what an awful design decision

>>149820510
Sellsword Chest, Steel Soldier Helm, either Sellsword or Abyss Watcher gauntlets

>>149820698
What?

>>149820698
if you wanted to see the move, why did you attack him?

>>149820303
>oh no, an enemy aggroes from 10 meters away
as in all of them aggro from across the map
>plunge attack
there is no way you can hit all of them with one plunge attack, and now you have the rest of them to deal with all aggro'd on you at once
>bring some fucking light
blind as in blind run through you fool, and so no, I didn't know the necromancers dropped the lanterns of course I do now because I was a dirty fucking guide reader and felt redoing that whole stretch 90 times was a waste of my time

>>149820693
>dual katana black skeletons
Pls no...

>>149820510

those arms are so studded you could even get away with kirk thorn gauntlets

>>149821504
atleast those couldnt roll iirc

>>149820510

Chest will be hard for Aguirre. You have a lot of "sorta kinda" chests. Sellsword's would probably be best, given that Herald's is white. Both have a cape, unfortunately.

Steel Soldier helm for certain.

Leonhard's Trousers probably fit best.

And for gloves, if Assassin's and Undead Legion don't look good, try Firekeeper gauntlets. At the very least they're fingerless.

>muh ds2 magic is balanced!

Lol. Great magic barrier, resistances up to 1 million and shields that completely negate magic. Is this what ds2 shitters think good pvp is?

Never ever fucking again.

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>>149821438
>as in all of them aggro from across the map
they never do, unless you try to run through
>there is no way you can hit all of them with one plunge attack, and now you have the rest of them to deal with all aggro'd on you at once
i have on multiple occasions. and even if i don't get them all, the last one dies before it stops spinning
>blind as in blind run through you fool, and so no, I didn't know the necromancers dropped the lanterns
try clearing areas and using the tools the game provides you with you tool. it's your fault if you don't take your time and explore. did you also complain about blowdarts and firedogs when there's a spider shield in the depths?

>>149820640
>>149820678
>>149820896
>>149821606
>>149821727
thanks a lot anons, gonna try these out.

>>149821783
I never really understood that either. You could basically make yourself immune to magic in DaS2, but people kept acting like it was the best ever for some reason.

>>149821039
>>149821047
What is something I could get for killing him twice? Think about it.

>>149821783
>waah i'm countered by builds specifically made to counter my build!

>>149822556
The counters in other games don't give you virtual immunity to magic.

>>149822528
His Soul?

>>149822371

Nice pick, man. I love theme builds from media, even if they're not remotely meta.

Main Rickard's or the stock Rapier. Irithyll would work too, since Aguirre's sword has a black iron hilt.

>>149820630
I don't PVP outside of niggers breaking into my house, so the speed isn't particularly useful since hidden body and slumbering ring mean I'm untargetable.

As I said, being invaded is my only PVP, and in those 1v1 duels I usually just bait out a swing or tank some hits with great magic shield and fire off a quick great soul arrow. It's cancer, but fuck invaders trying to nick my ember.

>>149822556
Yeah because 100% immunity to magic and dark damage just by using some fucking shield is well and fine.

Magic is even less viable in DS2 than in DS3 pvp wise. At least in DS3 I can free aim my chaos fireballs and nuke people with spells. In 2 you either nuke someone, do peanuts for damage (only needs to cast great magic barrier) or no damage at all. (use some bullshit shield)

>>149822928
>>149822698

>this guy has literally never seen a Crystal Soul Spear in DaS2
>this guy thinks everybody runs faith in order to use GMB
>this guy thinks everybody runs shields

>>149819505
>He doesn't know about the shortcut you can take by jumping off the trail and onto a part you get to later on that you can easily get to the TOTG bonfire from

>>149822742
Yes. And what can I try to do with what I can make from two of his souls?

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Why is every souls game a repeat of Demon's Souls?

Has From done anything original since 2009?

>>149823480
it's on you if you genuenly expected to be able to shield poke with a massive fuckoff sword

>>149823250
3 out of 4 people I played against in arena did.

inb4 >arena
I want my great chaos fireball.

It's fucking disgusting fighting for 20 minutes dodging some havel/gmb/shieldcuck while doing 300 dmg to him per dark orb/dark greatsword when all they need to do is just hit me 3 times to kill me.

Pyrohexer is seriously retarded, especially the resonant soul hexes. They either 1shoot someone or do 0 damage.

>>149823250
https://youtu.be/P3LAFt2PN5M?t=41s

>>149823250
You can have certain shields for different magics. Medium and small shield too, not stat-requiring greatshields. Of the top of my head, dark transgressor's shield for hexes and lightning watcher's I think for miracles

>>149823664
What's your SL? I never see people in Havel's in arena. Most of them run quality builds with Flynn's. Sometimes there's an ultra greatsword in the mix.

>>149823758
>spamming sorceries doesn't work
Wow, you sure showed me.

>>149823871
And it forces you to play with a shield when you could simply roll since every spell is telegraphed as fuck.

The move from talismans to chimes was a mistake.

>>149812715
Reported your post.

>>149824081
I just showed someone negating soul spears.

>>149824135

I like chimes actually since they just look and sound more unique then generic talismans. Plus 3 has both so it's hardly an issue.

>>149824135
Why?

>>149823541
uh

>>149824081
170. Lots of havel chest pieces and shields.

>spamming sorceries doesn't work
I did the same at first, thought it was lag or that the guy was hacking. After the 4th time it happened I started to suspect and looked it up.

>>149824330
The talisman, and the imagery around it, suggested the prayer. The empowerment by that faith. The drawing from the simplicity of belief.

The chime is just shaking a bell. Ring ding. Ring ding. Put a quarter in my donation box.

>>149810923
>Most of it was completely unique

Rakuyo is a massive phantom range Blades of Mercy

Bloodletter is an upgrade to the Hunter's axe

Amy's Arm does the exact same thing as the Beastcutter, but it's ten times better

Boom Hammer is Tonitrus level

>>149824257
Yeah, he couldn't have rolled through them all, not to mention he's using a Magic Magic Shield. That doesn't make sorcery less viable, this is just poor play on the sorcerer's side.

>>149824441
>170
You're probably getting matched with people 200+. If they can play around what you're using, why can't you play around what they're using?

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>>149821783
I remember meeting a few guys on arena trying to do some retarded fancy magic "combos" but failing miserably just because i could tank their shit with small magic resistant shit and dodge everything on reaction as even on max cast speed all ds2 magic shit is just too slow and obvious. It was fucking sad to look at.

>>149823480
Oh, I see, you thought you can use the boss weapon the way the boss does. New to the souls series?
>can't for the life of me find the "this guy's a fucking idiot" chen edit
Imagine it's there
>>149824081
Which is another way you can counter something easily countered elsewise. Are you agreeing with me or what?

>>149824732
My point is that a 100% damage reduction shield doesn't make magic damage any less viable.

>>149824607
>Rakuyo is a massive phantom range Blades of Mercy
they have nothing in common moveset wise at all
>Bloodletter is an upgrade to the Hunter's axe
bloodletter has no hyperarmor and entirely different moveset with emphasis on pokes
>Amy's Arm does the exact same thing as the Beastcutter
except for not having serrated damage and fully blunt moveset and shorter range and entirely different untricked mode
>Boom Hammer is Tonitrus level
and functions absolutely different

>>149824607
>>Rakuyo is a massive phantom range Blades of Mercy
Nah, the saif is close to the BoM playstyle.

>Bloodletter is an upgrade to the Hunter's axe
Not even remotely similar.

>Amy's Arm does the exact same thing as the Beastcutter, but it's ten times better
Those are both DLC weapons.

>Boom Hammer is Tonitrus level
I actually thin the Tont is better to be honest.

>>149824645
The thing is, with the right armor and even consumable buffs, you could negate like 90% of magic damage, even if you let it hit you square in the face.

>>149824939
It actually does. Magic is slow, best used at range, and has painfully obvious tells. That means if you can block 100% of it then it is basically worthless.

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>>149824732
Here you go.
It's not actually Chen

>>149824645
How am I supposed to do beat him when all he has to do to completely negate me is raise his shield?

I've got a fucking drakekeeper's sword that does 1/20th of his hp bar worth of damage while he can just hit me 3-4 times and end me. Even if I stagger him and go full faggot by using some bullshit spell like climax the casting speed is usually not fast enough to stop him from rolling away.

If I had a spell that completely negated physical damage, then I could play around what they are using.

>>149824939
You fail to send your point across
>>149825105
Slightly better, thanks

Anybody want a farmin' pal? Im 14 vertebra shackles from warmth. Ill return favor

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>>149824939
>something that blocks the full damage of already predictable as shit spells doesn't make it even less viable

>>149824723
Tell me about it. And most people I go up against are fucking bad, failing to dodge affinity + dark greatsword. A few get rekt by that but most just tank it.

>>149825239
I don't need any shackles, but if you want to kill me, sure. Plataform?

>>149825326
PC. Sl113. Old king antechamber. Password is warmth

>>149825094
>The thing is, with the right armor and even consumable buffs, you could negate like 90% of magic damage, even if you let it hit you square in the face.

That goes for every kind of damage except physical. And for doing that, he'd have to waste a ring slot, plus a buff that dispells after some time.

>It actually does. Magic is slow, best used at range, and has painfully obvious tells. That means if you can block 100% of it then it is basically worthless.

So you mean that rolling makes them useless? Impressive. Have you actually played DS2 PvP? Did you know you can run pyromancies too?

>>149825150
>How am I supposed to do beat him when all he has to do to completely negate me is raise his shield?
Switch weapons? Other tactics?

>I've got a fucking drakekeeper's sword that does 1/20th of his hp bar worth of damage while he can just hit me 3-4 times and end me. Even if I stagger him and go full faggot by using some bullshit spell like climax the casting speed is usually not fast enough to stop him from rolling away.

What the fuck? I've never seen that happen, fucking upgrade your weapon.

>>149825204
>>149825245
You can roll through every sorcery, miracle and hex since they're all predictable. That doesn't make them bad. There are shield that block 100% physical damage, does it mean attacks are useless now?

>>149807534
If souls, Karla

If Bloodborne, obviously Doll

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>all attacks of the Demon's Greataxe are overhead attacks
>even the WA
>meanwhile a simple longsword has two different WAs and a lot of different ways to attack, with variety all across its moveset

Why from hates great weapons so much? Maybe Miayzaki sucks at Monster Hunter and wanted to take off somewhere?

>>149825774
play ds2
actually has good weapon and moveset variety

>>149825494
Swap your sign for a red, so that I don't use embers.

>>149825876
I have over 900 hours of DaS2. I'm kinda sick of it.

>>149825595
Blocking physical attacks consumes way more stamina, has higher risk of getting you guardbroken and riposted and stamina regenerates for free while spells need herbs. And yet turtles are way too strong anyway

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>>149825595
>There are shield that block 100% physical damage, does it mean attacks are useless now?
There's a shitton of ways to go behind shields for melee builds.
Magic only has one generic animation with no additional mechanics unless we're talking about bloodborne which has the funniest caster build in series anyway.

>>149825595
>That goes for every kind of damage except physical.
That's the point.

Rolling is different. you can mess up the timing and still get hit, especially with DaS2's shitty, slow rolls. That's not an issue with a shield since all you have to do is hold down block.

>>149825960
still shows it the better game while shit souls 3 is a diarrhea mess

>>149824992
>emphasis on pokes
*dash R1s

>except for not having serrated damage and fully blunt moveset and shorter range and entirely different untricked mode
Both are low DPS weapons that specialize in stunlocking enemies to death

Damage type is irrelevant, and untricked cutter is wholly unremarkable

>>149825094
>Those are both DLC weapons.
Yeah, but they're redundant, especially when a lot more effort was clearly put into the Arm

>>149825915
I just realized i dont have one. Will it work if i summon your red?

>>149825595
Nigga, I'm a caster. Switch to what weapon? I've got fucking 50 attunement, 50 int and 30 faith, rest into endurance and vigor.

I tried using crypt blacksword but goddamn, swinging that shit is just asking to get backstabbed. Since roll-attacking all the time isn't fun, I threw it out.

Darkekeeper's sword +10 with 16 strength and 10 dex does fuckall damage. Infused it with dark, still shit damage. Silverback sickle and spear do even less when I tested them on mobs.

>>149825876
DS2 has even shittier weapon moveset variety to the point they reused generic animations for most of DLC weapons like yorgh's spear

>>149826075
Think so, hang on.

>>149826150
umm no

>>149826043
Why I dislike DaS2 in general, I have to agree it did weapon balance right, after some patches. Almost everything was viable. Some things were strong but nothing was retarded overpowered like ss and ccs this time around.

Also the first and only game to make a katana that isn't bullshit, the Bewitched Alonne's Sword. A balanced, stylish moveset, with variety and good proportion of speed/power.

>>149826193
Youre awesome. How are you killing yourself like that?

shit souls threeeeeeeeee
shitty ass gameeeeeeeeeee
cuckazaki dronesssssssssssss
eat your shiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiit

>>149825774

Every single thing about DS3 smacks of rushed development. It feels like they designed the game around the straight swords, katanas, and (to a lesser degree) the greatswords, and then just kind of dropped the ball on all other weapon categories.

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>>149826070
>*dash R1s
if you're not using a delayed r2 poke you're missing out one of the best attacks in the game for roll catching and fucking up parry fishers
>Both are low DPS weapons
>beast cutter
>low dps

>>149826002
>he can't parry into CSS
There are plenty of ways to play around it.

>>149826028
If you mess up the roll you have to get good.

>>149826104
You're playing with people who are way higher than your SL. I've never had this issue. You also need 50 VIG desu

>>149826391
Yeah it's probably the game with most reused assets by far.

I like the game because it's souls, but you can feel the lazyness