Tree of Savior General - /tosg/

reminder to get your 50 points before the reset

First for fletchers in arena

>join arena
>stuck on loading screen
>end task
>relog
>can't rejoin

I didn't want those stupid points and ranking anyway

;_;

Why do I keep getting dced?

>Male characters are so rare that someone asked me if my outfit was from the TP shop

>>149757451

dont make me laugh kid
fletchers need to stay back in the world boss kitchen

>>149757650
play the game
fletchers are an instant win if the enemy team doesnt have a pd/oracle

>>149757650
>what is broad

why clerics are so fucking broken?

>>149757798
Because that archetype contains both classes that give anyone a possibility of winning against a fletcher.

Is Cleric 2 Krivis 3 Druid 2 viable for pvp?

besides revenge sevenfold, is there another way to make people kill themselves?

>/tosg/ thought PD was a meme
>after TBL, everyone thinks it's too good
You guys are hilarious.

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This is your teammate tonight.

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>tfw not living in NA
>tfw no NEET
>tfw PvP for me only once per day in this game due time restrictions based on NA server location
>tfw i will never see Guild Battle thing no matter which guild i am in for the same reason of Arena

Where can I check my token expiration date?

>>149757961
>Cleric
>has Heal, Cure, SZ and possibly Divine Might
Good.

>>149757961
Monks are top tier for PvP
The guy must apply more
But same can be said for all Clerics but Pala

>>149758130
F1, character settings

>>149757961
>that Thai name
>it literally means "just a sec"

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I really need to hurry up and git gud. I feel like I could be winning these matches if I managed corpses better.

>>149757961
I had a Rank 5 7k HP monk earlier today.

We lost 0-3.

>>149758208
>>149758138
not if they afk leech points like >>149757961

>>149757446
What time does the TBL daily point limit reset? 6am server time?

>it's another "load into the bleachers at super speed and lose rank for it" episode

>>149758526
yes

>hook our two enemies in 2v2
>dps teammate doesn't capitalise that

>do team battle league
>2fps hoglan the whole time
>don't even know what I'm doing
How the fuck is this playable?

Omfg I hate archers so fucking much, literally dodges everything REEEEE

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>>149758606
>>149757987
IMC!

>>149758758
by playing sorc/necro and hope someone dies

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>losing streak
>keep getting matched with stacked enemy teams
>finally a somewhat even match
>doing bretty good
>secured 1 round myself by killing 2 enemies
>the score is now 2 - 2
>we can totally win this
>house loses power for 1 sec
>desktop PC dies
>hastily turn on computer again
>get on steam
>run ToS
>get back in-game
>TBL is over

I should've just played a moba if I wanted to PvP.

>sonic strike: confusion
>doesn't work on bosses since they seem to be immune to blind/confusion
>requires blind to proc first
>blind has a 30% chance to proc
>even after blind procs, confusion has it's own unknown proc chance that seems low as well
>practically procs less than 10-20% of the time behind TWO dice rolls
>only lasts 3 secs when it does proc
>blind doesn't even do anything in PVE since the mobs track you down through AI
WOW IT'S FUCKING NOTHING
I bet falconer C3 will be utter shit too.

>>149758772
>he play a full STR Swordman/Archer in PvP
>complains he miss people

FUCK DARK THEURGE, I CAN'T APPROACH THOSE CUNTS IF THEY USE IT

>>149758887
Can someone please explain the point of str, it literally gives nothing whilst dex gives everything and more

Who the fuck thought having crit chance, evasion and accuracy all on the same stat was a good idea?

>>149758961
I THOUGHT THEY NERFED IT

THANKS DISINFO AGENTS

>>149758961
does dark theurge fuck up catas?

>>149759215
>damage
>block pen
>crit bonus damage
>nothing
xD!!

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>tfw went 6-0 during that session

I'll lose my Top 20 spot by tomorrow but that was fun!

>>149759215
enjoy doing 1 damage per hit (2 if crit)

>>149759215
>Who the fuck thought having crit chance, evasion and accuracy all on the same stat was a good idea?
>Strength gives attack damage, crit damage, and block pen
>Nothing

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What's the fastest way to level a PD or Oracle?

>>149759306
>crit rate gives more damage than str by a shit ton but survivability as well
>block pen doesn't work
>crit bonus damage needs crit rate in the first place or its worthless

>>149759306
Not him but I'd rather go dex so I can take the character into minigames and enjoy both PVE and PVP. Why dump everything into your character and be stuck in PVE forever?

Full INT elememe worth it or is some 50 CON much more valuable?

>>149757446
>>149758526
>>149758695

No. It actually resets at midnight.
I learned that the hard way.

>Pelt 3 Squire 3 disconnects from TBL after losing first round
>Nothing of value lost
>Come back and win 3 straight 4v5

Please don't que if you have a PvE build

is this game p2w shit?

>>149759632
very p2w

>>149759658
That's a shame.

>>149759730
You got memed on.

>>149759585
Why can't they just make everything uniformly reset at 6am server time instead of having multiple reset times for different things.

The fucking mysterybox event resets at 12am while the scavenger hunt resets at 6am, it's fucking retarded. Seriously IMC fuck you get your shit head on right.

>>149759503
One of the top elememes on discord, is going to reset stats to have like 20 CON max, so I'm guessing you just a little bit to not get one shotted from max health in the hard content and that's it, and the compensate the rest with some gear.

You kind of want to stack as much INT because of the bonus scaling skyrocketing when you hit like 500+.

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>Be zombie bokor (Yes, I know. I chose the path of suffering)
>Can bring zombies into the battle (wew)
>They're instantly removed when the match actually starts
>Literally the only way to have A zombie is to use that fucking capsule
>That's it
>The zombie is removed at the beginning of the next match

Can you point out on the doll where the evil Hatians touched you, IMC?

>>149759758
>implying enchanting costumes aren't p2w

>>149759893
>The mere act of mounting shuts down a lot of shit
>Oh look, they just released a pet that can be mounted by anyone
>It costs TP

Just in time for battle league. What a coincidence.

What server times are TBL on?

>>149760036
>What server times are TBL on?
7pm 10pm 12pm 4am

>>149759824
>>149759503
Full INT is doing fine for me. ~L250 now

for a beginner or high Ping, some CON is probably better

>>149760036
(EDT) 4 a.m., noon, 7 p.m. and 10 p.m.

You'll notice that quite a few of these times are absolutely shit for anyone with a life outside of ToS.

>>149758247
Thank you

>>149759607
we need points too, deal with it

>>149759632
it's pay2win, but it's kinda hidden, you won't notice until you've played a lot

There's an item you can buy with realm money called a token, said token can be trade with other players for silver. A token costs around $10 american dollars, and can be trade from somewhere around 600,000 silver to 1,000,000 silver.

Now the trick is, your skills can become more poerful if you invest silver in them. First is something innocent, like 500 silver for 1% increase in power, then 1500, then 3500, 5000, 30000, 200000, until the very high levels for super overpowered skills can cost 1 or 2 millions.

High level skills can take up to 80-120millions of silver to upgrade fully, which makes them deal double damage. And that's for just one skill, now consider the amount of silver I told you you can get through a token purchase with real money, and you'll realize how pay2win this game is.

>>149759824
Not possible to just offset that completely by gear? Or would it just be with 30million silver items?

If I want to take fletcher 3 what class should I choose?

>>149759260
I don't know, but I guess so? I lost 80+% of my hp to one

>>149759227
I don't know if it's nerfed or not. I'm still a newbie in PvP, so it's very likely that I fucked up or something

>>149760269
you forgot to mention the fact its impossible to make silver without paying real money, and that every part of the game offers no silver or rare items to sell
no matter how long you play you wont be able to gradually make money to upgrade your skills, you only have a chance if you pay money and sell tokens / enchantments
is this your furst fucking mmorpg? this isnt p2w at all, and youre fucking autistic

I haven't played this game in two months.
Did they fix Swordsman yet?

>>149760269
I can't tell if this is a sarcastic post or literally retarded post

>>149760308
there are not that many ways to get HP/CON from items, without losing dmg

Eh, so reinstall didn't fix the problem with cutscene freezing this time. Anyone on Fedimian who cares to test how it works in a party? I remember it helped once.

>>149760436
You don't need con at all as an elememe.
Full grynas + shield + aspersion lets you take 1s from all physical
Two +3 glass bracelets and a +3 petamion lets you take neglible amount from all magic attacks

The only place con matters is pvp/gvg as pve wise, its completely worthless

>>149760370
Fletcher 3, obviously

>>149759832
>Can you point out on the doll where the evil Hatians touched you, IMC?
>point out on the doll
Don't do it, it's a trick!

>>149760479
Hahaha. I launched it without a mount and it worked fine. What a piece of shit coding.

>>149760421
Barb and rodelero are much better now. Probably still outclassed dps wise, but I find it more fun. More buffs are to come (concentrate, pistol shot for corsair)

>>149760421
https://treeofsavior.com/news/?n=541

>>149760421
Fixed swordsman?
No (still outclassed by other classes)
Made swordsman better?
Yes (e.g. 1.3* str scaling or tons of buffs)

>>149760308
I don't have access to top end gear nor high end dungeons to know if the Best in Slot gear is enough to overcome having 0 CON, but honestly I think it's just hitting yourself in the foot by forcing a suicide build, when you start doing dungeons with 3.5k hp and then die to any boss fart, then get sent to the start of the dungeon while your team kills the boss and you miss all the experience because they all had 3 times more health than you.

I know you want to be elite hardcore from the start, but it's likely you'll quit halfways if you really don't know what you're getting into, and don't even have shit like beetleback and all 3 hat slots with 700+ HP enchants at least.

I mean I'm doing it (leveling a full int wiz), but I already leveled another char to r7 and knew when it was going to get ugly. Go for it if you feel you're gonna be gimped for not having 40 more INT than the average wiz or something, but I don't think anyone is going to blame you for having at least some CON.

I'd only suggest full int on builds with thauma if you're going to abuse transpose.

>>149760752
You are fucking retarded, you take 1s from everything you do as an elememe.
Only retards and pvpfags bother putting points in con

>>149760835
show me a webm your elememe standing still being hit for 1's on Maven then I'll take a picture of myself with retard written on my forehead, otherwise you're full of shit fucking misinfo agent

>>149759607
What is Arrest? Probably more useful than all these Doppels/Fencers/Hoplites.

>>149761058
>enemies can still attack
>implying your average jewsquire has arrest

How about archer1 ranger3 fletcher3 ?
Or archer2 ranger2 fletcher3 ?

>>149760535
Wow thanks, nice advice anon

>>149760093
>>149760153
Honestly IMC how much more retarded can they get? This can be easily fixed by having matching timings in both AM and PM but they have retarded asymmetrical timings for REASONS.

>>149761150
Second with ranger2 being ranger scout, and you're welcome

>>149761013
280/2=140+146+146+113=545*1.56=850.2
Red ticen crossbowman = 819

Please educate yourself you retarded piece of shit.

>>149761176
Because Korea only has a single timezone, they were oblivious to this issue

>>149759832
>Be Zoo pally
>PvP
Not even once.

>>149761058
Why the fuck would I want arrest when hook or raise or frost pillar are better skills?

>>149761013
>muh misinfo
>doesn't even know how def works
I bet you're one of those retards who thinks def is flat, did the whole blue spion archer not already rekt you hard enough misinfo-kun?

How much crit rate do i needed to have crit chance at least 50℅ at 280?

>>149761220
What are the useful scout abilities? Hiding? For what?

>>149761290
>steam server literally the international server with multiple regions
>OH SHIT GUISE I DIDN'T KNOW THE WORLD HAD DIFFERENT TIMEZONES
This is not a fucking excuse at all.

>>149761282
>that math
Educate your own self, you stupid fuck. Did you drop out of elementary school? Did wittle baby have to use a calculator?

>>149761319
>zoo pally
but conversion doesn't even work, the fuck do you do?

>>149761282
>Red Nuo doesn't exist
>Red Ticen Mage doesn't exist
Show us your ele with 900+def and 800+mdef bruv

>>149761390
EST is the only time zone that matters.

>>149761369
If you're making a fletcher it means you want to world boss.
World bosses outside dullahan is decided 99% of the time by who gets there first.
Scout is absolutely necessary for the movement speed bonus.
Its the only and whole reason you don't go a1r3 because scout movement speed bonus is just that important.
Its the same reason windrunners are so expensive.

...are... are pet levels not adjusted?

So getting hit at random by a lvl 250 hoglan while you're fixed at 200 = fuck-you damage?

>>149761436
Then why even bother catering to other regions? Just have every server in NA, or better yet, just IP ban everyone outside of NA.

>>149761364
420

>>149761407
It does work.

>>149761470
Not him but not everyone makes a fletcher to world boss. Maybe he just likes the way fletchers play or their skills.

>>149761487
>HOGLAN
>DPS
PLAY THE GAME LOL

>>149761503
yeah with like 1 dude, if you drop conversion on 2 or more they just stand there doing nothing, if you try to convert more the same happens losing previous mobs, the most I can get is 3 monsters or 4 in extremely lucky chases, this is after hours of trying, what am I missing?

nice
5 enchant scrolls and 40 tp
i can tip my fedora to that.

>>149761394
>that math
its completely correct anon, are you literally retarded?
>>149761416
>red nuo mattering at all when you're ranged
>red ticen mage mattering when you've got mdef out the shitton (140+469.2+70+113+113+72=977.2)

Go on than, dump unnecessary con than, I cbfed convincing retards to see logic

>>149761625
It's easily controlled for, don't be dumb. It happens when converted mobs are trying to attack non converted mobs and then you convert the one they are attacking.

Just don't do that.

>its another rehash of the def is useless meme debate

>>149761693
Not him but where are those mdef items coming from? I don't have nearly that much mdef at all.

>>149761693
>than
>than again

>>>/out/

>>149761812
imaginary land with +20 bracelets or some retarded shit like that

>>149761470
>>149761560
Tfw I make fletcher because broadhead meme in tbl

>>149761490
>Just have every server in NA,
Aren't the BR servers still in NA because of having been DDoSed all day in BRland?

>just IP ban everyone outside of NA.
If only, but they obviously work with the Chinese bots, so can't have that.

They might give other servers different time eventually if people get them to realize it.

>>149761812
wizard bonus mdef (wiz/4 level), glass bracelet +4 or +5, glass bracelet +4 or +5, max petamion +3 is what I'm guessing
may be more or less + since +3 glass bracelet is 103 mdef

>>149761932
>They might give other servers different time eventually if people get them to realize it.
That's exactly what makes 0 sense. How the fuck can you be so ignorant to have servers cater to other parts of the world but not realise they have different timezones. It's beyond retardation levels, its kysmm levels.

Are there any wizard builds that can efficiently solo farm (for cash, don't really care about exp), or is that reserved to classes that don't have stupidly long cooldowns?

>>149761693
>You are fucking retarded, you take 1s from everything you do as an elememe.
Moving goalposts and then coming up with shit as your counter argument. Kill yourself disinfo agent

>>149761863
I think you're the one in imaginary land anon.
You can take 1s from all major grinding locations due to aspersion and wizards bonus mdef.

There is literally no situation outside pvp where you need more than 0 con except maybe et and even than its a maybe.

it's a 7 day token.

i'd rather have tp

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>It's a Cafrisun-wearing shitter arrives at Nahash Forest for the first time episode

>>149761952
What's the 469.2 from?

>>149762074
Go on than, dump 50 into con before crying when you hit 280 about how you wasted your stats.

You call others disinfo agents when they provide concrete maths proving otherwise so go screw up your build than shitter.

Most swords go full str with crit rate gems right? So highlander crit atk bonus is useless?

>>149762134
The Magic Defense formula is as follows:(Level / 2) + (MNA / 5) [ + (Level / 4) for Wizards]

Level 280 wizard has 2346 mana without taking into account max petamion or other gear

>>149762061
No, it's just people with lives trying to play a game for people with no lives and being mad they can't play as well.

>>149762278
Wait what? mdef takes into account your mana? I thought it was spr?

>>149762126
How is it that this general has this same argument on an almost weekly basis?
Hell before the webms outright proving def isn't a meme it used to be a daily basis.

>>149762389
It was even worse in ICBT where people were basically "No stats matter, just pump con"

>>149762387
>>149762278
MNA is SPR you retard. How fucking stupid are you?

>>149762351
Did you even read what I wrote? I'm talking about IMC being IMCompetent. What you said makes no sense whatsoever. Are you IMCompetent as well?

>>149762452
>MNA is SPR you retard.
What? Why didn't you just type SPR then? If it's SPR then how the hell do you get so much SPR without investing a point into it?

>>149762445
Tfw it was all a ruse by the alchejews back than to keep people wearing cafrisun so they have to keep chugging hp pots

Now they got outjewed by the pardoners who are trying to convince people to buy their 900 silver aspersions.

:^)

>>149762476
You don't understand, timezones wouldn't be a problem if you could play any time you wanted. It's only wageslaves complaining the battle league times are while they're sleeping or at work. They don't have to cater to people like that.

>>149762573
>SPR
>SP
K e K k E n N i N g

>>149762573
I'm>>149762278
Its mana, the other anon is just being retarded.
I'm 99% certain its your mana and not your spr but the other anon is just being retarded.
I mean if they meant spr instead of your mana why say mna?

>>149762615
No, you're the one who doesn't understand. No one is talking about wageslaves vs neets. It's about optimal timings based on the timezone. It's very obvious the timings we have are only based around EST which is fucking stupid considering they're trying to cater to an international audience with regional servers.

>>149762573
>how the hell do you get so much SPR without investing a point into it?
Why would you get SPR as a mage? Are you fucking stupid? Did you actually believe that shitter claiming he can get 900+def and mdef on a Ele3?

HOW THE FCK TO RELEASE FROM COURSING ?
This velheider slowly rape me and then I got snipe

>>149762736
>calls everyone else a shitter when concrete maths and calcs were given
>has nothing to back up his own statements besides "are you stupid, everyone and I mean everyone knows this just like how EVERYONE knew the world used to be flat"
You are one retarded shitter

>>149762702
So you're saying Priest Blessing scales with SP too because it says MNR as well? In case you didn't know SPR scaling is .2 for MDEF as well. Fucking off yourself. I thought you were just disinfoing but you're actually retarded.

>>149762727
Oh, so you really think they actually don't know the rest of the world has different time zones. Ha.

They don't care. That's the answer.

>>149762653
>>149762702
Still makes no sense at all, why would mdef be based on your SP. Being based on SPR stat would make more sense. In fact the tos mechanics guide says it's SPR/5 and not SP/mana.

Why the fuck would your mana give you mdef? SP is a secondary stat. All secondary stats are based off primary stats and other factors like your level. Why would a secondary stat be based off another secondary stat?

Is the tos mechanic pdf wrong?

>>149762839
>calls everyone else a shitter when concrete maths and calcs were given
Haha wow this is some next level delusion. This is easily proved by playing the fucking game. Go on show us your Wiz with this mdef.

>>149762923
I'm going from the tosbase wiki, guess I'll concede and say I'm retarded for relying on the tosbase wiki which said MNA and not SPR yet had SPR as something else.

>>149762902
That's why I'm saying they're retarded. Maybe you should try reading before you reply cause you're obviously retarded too.

>there are people in this thread who thinks mana gives magic defense
WHAT THE FUCK IS GOING ON GUYS

>>149762727
>they're trying to cater to an international audience with regional servers.

This only happened because people were crying for servers to be closer to them and people didn't want regional MMO hosting companies to handle their servers.

I've seen a lot of korean grindfests with a "rosey-beige animu renaissance" aesthetic, but this might be the comfiest looking one.

>>149762992
>99% certain
Just do the world a favor and kill yourself before you breed.

>>149762994
They don't care. That doesn't make them retarded, that makes you irrelevant. Go whine on the forums that they don't cater to you enough instead of complaining here.

>>149763086
Almost every link on google has MNA as if its some separate stat (e.g. http://wiki.tosbase.com/wiki/Stats).

I mean its still retarded for not researching a bit more and using different sites but still, its an error that could happen.

>>149763131
Yea and they accomodated them. They could've chose not to, but they did. Meaning they're actually willing to cater to a world wide audience. If so, being halfassed about it is just fucking retarded either that or they have no foresight at all.

>>149763159
So then, uhh, 50 into CON? 20?

>>149760835
>>149761282
defense works but you start maven at 265-270 and shit there is 274-277. same at other grind maps

and the game likes to throw you into missions with 10-15 lvl higher bosses

you do not always take 1 from everything

but im no-con too and its good for now

>>149763202
>irrelevant
>every other server has more players than the NA/EU server
Oh the irony.

i'd like to see pics of 280 mage with these said m+p def please

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>>149763527
How about a level 230~ shinobi instead :^)

If you find a white blinking spawn and your pet gets the last hit, the cash flow does not trigger? This happened twice already

>>149763591
>347 mdef
>18k hp
3-4 hits from Hogma Shaman.

>>149763591
>not mage
>not 280
thanks, but no

>>149763591
>>149763709
also like 0 Mdef

i know that pdef is good and i got ~800. but ppl are talking about high Pdef AND Mdef at the same time.

>>149763313
Even NA is secondary to KR and you know how it is there.

Think of it like the royalty > nobles > peasants.

>>149763628
If it spawns on top of you, you won't get loots. You need to char select.

>>149762250
The opposite.
That 50% boost only gets better with higher strength.

>>149762389
because there are a lot of missinfo agents and shitposters in here.

cant easily trust tosg or you get fucked. see many class build suggestions

>>149762389
If you actually wanted reliable information you would ask in game.

>used to be 10 mins max per char for 40mins and 12 rushes
>now literally fucking 30 mins per char and 12 full runs of 130 dungeon
REEEEEEEEEE I CAN'T HANDLE THIS SLAVE LABOUR

Is your focus mainly PvE? Go full int, con won't matter too much. PvP? Unless you're dueling, you still don't really need it.

>>149763984
>No con in PvP
Hahahahahahahahahahahaha
You are the people who get chewed up by random shit like frost cloud that people dump and ignore.

>>149763984
Enjoy getting oneshotted by stealth cannon blast then.

>>149763984
As an ele3lock I mean

>>149763931
>reliable information if you ask ingame
>people link you to tosbase builds where they advocate sword 2 barb 3 fencer 2 or doppel 2 with 4 whirlwind and 1 dpe
kek

>>149764058
Maybe you shouldn't be in that shit guild then.

Will this game ever be optimized? With pvp arena/gvg out now and still being a near unplayable slideshow this game is destined to die if it's going to be like this forever.

Fedi teleport: The ignti coast questline has one
enjoy

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We really need 2-3 way to remove buffs.
Rogue could steal them for example.

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>>149763213
>>149763086
>>149762992
>>149762278
>>149762387
>>149762452
>>149762573
>>149762702
>>149762923
its SPR

me without any items

8 SPR
>(252 / 2) + (8/ 5) + (252/ 4)
190 MDEF

2141 SP
>(252 / 2) + (2141/ 5) + (252/ 4)
617 MDEF

High Pdef AND Mdef debunked

>>149764541
Haha niggers. Fuck your theory-crafting.
Playing the game won.

>>149764541
>Unspent points
Drop them into SPR without accepting and show what that does for mdef.

>>149764541
It was literally 1 (one) guy who thought MNA meant "mana".

>>149764541
I don't even understand what this is supposedly proving but I sense high amounts of autism surrounding it all the same.

>>149764274
Hello savior. Prease understand. Optimization very difficult when add so many new patches. In mean time prease enjoy necromancer, psycho kinder and fletcher for team battle arena.

>>149764749
>~50 points only adds 12 mdef

>>149761610
Hoglan is actually the best Hunter pet after the P2W Penguin
Hunter with Penguin in Arena is a monster

>>149764713
Don't bully Mia.

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>>149764656
>>149764839
forgot i had gear in in last pic i posted

>>149764672
>It was literally 1 (one) guy
cant know that. and lost track who was shitposting about what

>>149764713
i guess

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>>149764856
>My favorite class is actual p2w

>>149764953
DESPAIR!

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Reminder

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a5lDzSF2b28

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>>149765001
DIS PAIR

>>149764672
What the fuck does MNA even mean? There's no MNA stat. Why would anyone call SPR MNA when you can just call it SPR instead?

>>149765183
because tosbase a shit

>>149765183
Google tree of savior mdef formula

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>>149765053
There might hope in this DESPAIR! AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

>>149764856
It makes practically no fucking difference what pet you use. Their stat differences are too miniscule to matter.

More important velheider is better than hoglan because it has more HP. Your pet is fucking easy to kill in arena especially if there's a linker. And you have to feed it to restore it's stamina everytime it dies in arena.

>>149765001
It sucks.
Granted, my main is far from PvP oriented (unless falcon3 drops some neat ass shit useful for it), but I was wanting to make a proper PvP funter down the line and knowing that I won't be as good as someone who dropped money hurts.
Especially on an ugly, lore breaking piece of shit like a penguin.

>>149765183
KOREAN GAME
KO RE A

>>149765253
You're missing the point here. There is no MNA stat in tos. There is only SPR. The only people to refer to SPR as MNA are retards who pull MNA out their ass.

So, Clerics or Archers? Which will be shown?
Will Archers still not have a hidden class announced even at R8? Will Kabbalists become the OPest?

>>149765316
I want to make a Hunter 3 - Falconer 3 just for the sheer factor of using pets over pets. Granted, I was expecting a shitty AI along the way, just not THIS shitty. Let's hope that Falconer 3 adds something amazing to this class.

>>149765374
>The only people to refer to SPR as MNA are retards who pull MNA out their ass.
Or maybe, you know, people who actually look at the coding? You're still salty that you got BTFO for mistaking MNA for Mana? Lmao fucking retard.

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Has Bokor been buffed?
Is it still a massive unfun experience?

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>>149764953
The Panda is better but 20k points ehehehe
For now you can get that Penguin

>>149765435
Hunter is an r3 class, good luck with lelno damage until r9

>>149765418
I'm still hoping for archer.
I want to know if they really did make both new classes mounted and how fwee3 is going to be.

>>149765435
The one thing that really annoys me about taking falconer is that I can't use food on my hotbar to quick heal my regular pet anymore, it just heals the falcon's stamina.
The ai really isn't an issue, since there is hardly any ai to deal with.

>>149765519
I won't do it because the panda is just as lore breaking and off looking as the penguin.
And, sadly, they'll probably never add new pets that don't just look off.

This is the dumbest argument we've had here in a long time.

>>149765314
train the pet

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>>149765374
Just like what's said on this post >>149762847

Pic related so you can calm your autism

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>>149764868
FFS HOW

>>149765690
Someone called me out yesterday too when all I posted was a cap of my steam page with hours played, 2 friends online, and one of the auto-set screenshot backgrounds with lala and beet in it. I have no fucking idea how these people do this.

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>>149765690
Power of love.

>>149765501
>>149765667
That just makes no sense ever, why should I be required to look in the coding to know what stats benefit what secondary stats?

>You're still salty that you got BTFO for mistaking MNA for Mana? Lmao fucking retard.
Wasn't even me.

>>149765749
Obviously meant to say MNA. Which is clearly shown in this post >>149765667

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>>149765772
>aka Stalking.jpg

>>149765418
I would like to see the Archer preview, but by the looks of it, they might be the last ones. A shame really.

>>149765597
Well, I can manage somehow. I'm fine doing no Damage until Rank 9. I can't get worse that this.

>>149765615
What? That's shitty. So you have to feed him directly. My despair has grown just by the thought of this.

>>149765631
Exactly, it only matters if you dump silver into the pet and that makes no difference which pet you decide to dump silver into. You can pick any pet and still have practically the same performance.

So, basically, the only gear that works in the arena are the +1/2 skill gears like durandal, audra, grand cross and etc, right?

>>149765690
>be an attention whore
>get surprised when realise you have crazy fans
You're still my favourite attention whore.

>>149765615
>I want to know if they really did make both new classes mounted

Well Lancers need more targets.

Making a corsair.

Which one would be better, from the list

Sword 1 pelt 1 hoplite 2 corsair 3
Sword 1 pelt 1 barb 2 corsait 3
Sword 1 highlander 3 corsair 3

Also how to build these stat wise? Is dex still useful?

What about rank 8 options?

>>149765519
What's with this shitposter and the dumb laugh? Koreans go "kekeke" anyway. At least get it right.

>We will never have a class that inspires the warcry: "DEUS VULT"

Why live?

>>149766054
There's Warcry already.

Cleave
>makes you deal 50% more damage with your slash skills
>lasts five seconds
>total of 15 seconds

Skull Swing
>Enemy takes 2x physical damage
>lasts for 40 seconds


HMMMM

>>149765867
>So you have to feed him directly.
Yep, it's dumb that there isn't an option.

>>149765948
There's already SR, which is getting c3 at r8, that would be especially dumb. Not really much they could do with another mounted class either, at least on the archer side.

>>149765982
>r8 options
shitnobi or doppel, both of which are horrid since you're taking a r6/7 class at r8

>sword1 pelt 1 hoplite2 corsair 3
this is the standard, spearlunge + hexen
>barb
no thats garbage
>highlander
a shitter version of hoplite due to needing weapon swap meme

>>149765982

first one pushs your corsair main skill (hexen dropper) to the limit. The ability to equip spears, finestra, spear lunge, stabbing is also nice, long stryder is fun on duels and you can chain with iron hook after the jump. hexen dropper is the main dps skill of the corsair, hence why hoplite's spear lunge brings the most out of it.

r8 options are probbably shinobi or just lancer IF possible and interesting to use skills unmounted. murmillo alone can be a option too but we still need more details of the skills. even doppel 1 can be a thing.

good thing about barb build is the slash skills to cover hexen dropper's weakness to cloth armor but meh... just shot those guys with your pistol

>>149766034
get it right. its ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ

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Can you queue with a party for TBL?
Can you queue with an incomplete party and get it automatically filled with pickups?

Is Scout C3 over Quarrel Shooter C3 worth it if you're going Musketeer?

>>149766149
wwwwwwwww

>>149766102
>enemy takes 2x physical damage
except they don't, all it does is make the targets armour aka def zero which is basically the same as fencers who ignore def with pierce attacks

>>149766102
>>Enemy takes 2x physical damage
>>lasts for 40 seconds
This is so wrong

>>149766116
>Needing weapon swap as highlander> corsair
Please.

>>149766102

>2x physical damage

Dude, not even 600 armor monsters

>>149766172
I dont think so. Its solo and RNG.

>>149766209
The only reason you would go highlander is for cross guard to combo with your hexen dropper and pistol shot after corsair buffs.

Skull swing has garbage cd, crown has garbage range, most other skills are just filler slash attacks which other classes do better

>>149766209

you need to parry with a two handed sword to do what a hoplite corsair can do with a single spear lunge

that what he's talking about, highlander brings cartar, skyliner, skull swing and moulinet, both are nice man because of muh cloth, but after the skyliner funeral, well, even barb 2 looks better

>>149766102
>>149766208
>>149766224
>>149766209
>Enemy takes 2x physical damage
another theorycrafter wants to be BTFO?

hehehehe, play the game

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>>149765772
Mia is naked.

>>149766172
No PD no Sure Win
They PD they Sure Win

>>149766307
>>149766312
Yeah, I forgot about that. Still, if he doesn't mind weapon swapping, the staggering from cross guard lasts 10s, more than enough time to swap into and back.

>>149766312
>Skyline funeral

Rest assured, sweet prince. ;_;7

>mfw leveling an elememe with 40 points total in CON, going for 60 total

RUINED?

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Are there any more of these besides the templeshooter one? There are the best loading screens. Although the loading part of this one is always covered up by protips.

>>149766471
Not with weapon swap lag its not
Also why would you go to the trouble of weapon swapping when spear lunge does it better?

Currently theres really no reason at all to go highlander besides the 50% crit attack and crossguard comboes with some classes.
Since his corsair doesn't benefit from either of those since hoplite does them better, no reason at all to touch highlander

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>>149766418
Anon no, please...

>>149766521
sounds ok

>>149766521
At max level, you're going to be missing around 150 matt which with frost cloud is 150x32*your attributes

Once r8/r9/etc comes out, the difference becomes even more.

>>149766521
You can offset your matk loss from a single headgear with 2 decent damage lines.

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Wow questing in Grynas Trails is hard when you are 10 levels behind. Escort mission right at the start feels impossible.

Also, should I reset my stats somehow if we get a stat reset potion as one of the event hidden rewards? I wanted to dump STR completely but new patch got some buffs.
PvP focused cata3 dragoon.

>>149766567
Yeah, hop is better overall.
>weapon swap lag
I never felt it that much outside some situations with an already low fps, and I play on a toaster.

>>149766796
>pvp focused
>str
what?

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>>149766819
Weaponswap lag is a meme and it does not exist. Ignore all misinfo agents that mention it.

>>149766796
Hello Russian friend

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>>149766491

It's like a stillborn child for us who never had the fun of slashing bleeding monsters non-stop ;_;

>>149766521

You're fine, it's not like you wasted a few millions upgrading skyliner.

>>149766667
40 INT is more like ~84 matt

>>149766864
The lag is because you killed a shiny mob you dumb shitmaestro.

>>149766857
Yeah, that's why I wanted to dumb in in favor of CON since I feel that my HP is too low on TBL. But after new patch people started talking that STR was okay too so I'm confused.
>>149766883
Hi there.

>>149766763
Not really, you're missing around 100 matt so you'll need 3 pieces of headgear each with 30+ matt and elemental attack on top of that which costs a shitton.

Meanwhile health hats are among the cheapest around.

>>149766896
Why, IMC? Why?! Slicing things with Skyliner should be awesome! ;_;

>>149766919
>full second delay before the shot comes out
>in addition to the one where loot spawns
>i-it's from the mob...!
kek

>>149766896
>wasted millions of silver upgrading skyliner
literally why?
You should've waited for the patch first you shitter

>>149767006
It was dumb and every sword was a hahaman, the class wasn't that good outside that one skill. I just hopeIMC, giving shit like Vertical Slash an actual use. l just hope IMC buffs Highlander by a fuckton, hopefully even today

>disinfo agents pushing no CON now
Would you idiots fuck off? Just about everyone who plays the game, PvP or PvE, puts a decent amount of points into CON.

>>149767150
stop pushing CON now
disinfo agent

>>149767219
>implying anyone actually took CON in the first place

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>>149766864
ZA WARUDO! TOKI YO TOMARE!!

>>149767150
t. missinfo

>>149767064
It is though. Unequipped your weapon, then try using barrage.

Soul chaser vs Red Veris Gloves

Go!

>>149767148
I know, I know, anon. I'm just as hopeful as you are about the Highlander Class.

>>149767150
>disinfo agents pushing con
when will it stop?

>>149767148

Every dps wizard has quickcast, every dps archer has swift step / had steady aim, every healer ha cleric c2...

>>149767150
>game's been out international for literal months
>hehehe NOW'S MY CHANCE TO PUSH CON

Is TRUENEET the biggest autist in tosg?

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>That first Igti coast mission

>>149767259
Archers do hehehhe ehehh eheehhehee

>>149767336
Vubbe fighter gaunts.

>>149767481
You get rewarded with a fedi teleport at the end
Just do it

>see someone trying to make money on the market
>undercut them by 50%

>>149767517
>Rewarded with a teleport to the only place I keep stocked up with teleport scrolls to

>>149767597
requesting the "open my shop right next to his" bot-chan pasta

>>149767607
>buying teleport scrolls
absolutely disgusting

>>149767431
Who?

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>>149767331
I'm not the one reposting the weapon swap webm, but killing shiny mob is nothing like the auto swap with musket. Also that first webm was cherrypicked as snipe actually connected without hovering over target for more than 1 second.

>>149767417
All of those classes have something else other than just one skill. Be it divine might, safety zone, cure, more heals, don't know much about wizards but sleep and magic missile seem useful, maybe sure spell and lethargy for parties, archers have full Draw and multi10, highlander had Skyliner and everything else was trash. If memeliner had to go so we could have a better balanced classes, then it's more than worth it. Spamming 0cd skills is gay, too

>>149767336

vubbe is shit, I'm a qs falconer

Are there any worthwhile druid attributes to level? Besides carnivory and its duration one?

>>149767739
Maybe you shouldn't have fallen for that qs3musk meme.

>>149767743
>highlander had skyliner and everything else was trash
>cross guard
>50% crit attack att
>crown meme (okay this was pretty shit)
>skull swing

>>149767743

You're exaggerating, sure highlander is purely a dps tank, but hl 2 also brings cross-guard 10 for meme/decent block on a two handed sword, crosscut which is a nice bleeding by itself (ticks 2x faster than normal bleeding, but some monsters are immune to it), level 10 crown better uptime) and there are people who likes cartar 10, I don't, but I can see it working with lethargy

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tfw finally hit 275 and am 400k exp away from R8, is there any point in going to 280?

literally just giving Moulinet 18 second cooldown and fixing its Critical Chance buff would tremendously buff Highlanders

>>149768139
Just get it, 281 quests should give lv12 cards

>>149768224

>no 50% slash debuff

Nope.

>>149768139
Don't bother unless you want to et or gvg

>>149767916
>>149768051

I'll give you skull swing, but the skill has too long of a cd to be useful in prolonged grinding.

I've never really relied much on Cross guard outside some boss battles, highlander itself can't even benefit from the staggering.

Crit atk is nice to have, but it's not game changing.

Cross cut 's bleed doesn't do much damage by itself, especially later on, and considering its cd, it's not worth it using it on its own, you have to follow it up with Skyliner unless the mob can't bleed, which means it won't do much damage at all.

Crown is cool too, the damage reduction you can get out of it is great, but again, I don't think a high level Crown game changing. For a Doppel, Zornhau, although having worse absolute active time, can make up for the loss in levels from not going crown10, as it has a 15s cd.

Barbarian is currently much better than highlander, even if you ignore cleave's slash debuff.

>>149768568
but you can't get barb at c2, meaning most will still have a single rank of highlander :^)
yes highlander are currently underpowered once past the first rank

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Clover is recruiting active players who are looking for guild.
We're currently just in casual PvE mode, as long as you're actively leveling/farming then you're welcome.
With open world GvG virtually dead and more than half of our members in the wrong timezones for GvG arena, we have to sadly give up on them for now.
One of our goals is to assemble a GvG team for the weekends, but we don't have the lineup for that yet.

We offer a farm, hamsters, and trueinfo advice as best we can.
PM/add me if you're interested.

>Opens chest, 7 day sub
>Do scavenger hunt, 7 day sub

nice

>have enough cards to hit 280 from 263
cumming

>>149768224
Give it an overheat. Also make Vertical Slash have 400% percentage scaling, make staggering more useful for Highlander and all mobs being susceptible to Cross Cut's bleed.

>>149768671
Does anyone knows where you can get hamster food? I want one but if you can feed it it's a pointless waste of a character slot

>>149768845
You cant currently.

>>149767517
Do you mean the one where you deliver the shells to the accessory merchant? Or is there another one after?

>>149768934
thats the one, sacrificing 2 level 11 exp cards for a fedi teleport is worth it imo, you can hand it in if you havn't talked to the girl and wasted your other fedi teles

>>149768765
Vertical Slash should deal Skull Swing's reduced defense in percentage, thats a mouthfull and didnt make any sense but its something like this

>Monster has 400 def
>Use Skull Swing
>Monster lost 400 def
>Vertical Slash deals 400% damage to that monster

>>149768973
Yeah I stopped at that fearing I would lose the warp. Thanks anon. (Finished the Failure and Success one by accident)

my shoggoth keeps disappearing for 5-10 minutes at a time.. where does he go, what does he DO? i'm getting worried?

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What are you farming 130 dungeon with?

QS3 SR2 here, max comfy.

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What a slut.

>>149769081
Busy killing shit and getting you drops you'll never see.

What's the average/median armor of an ET monster?

>>149769081
Have you named him? Formed a bond with him? Mine doesn't do this, but Hilda is both female and relatively docile. I can't speak for the behavior of male shoggoth.

whats the best way to make money

>>149769420
Work for MMOTANK

>>149769420
Sell every drop you get on the market. Everything. If it's worth 2k at the vendor, sell it for 5k on the market.

so can you only pvp 4 times a day without GvG?

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LF shy and cute chrono boy(boy) that is easy to bully and cums too easily to hold hands with.

>>149769069
Why do people keep making stupid posts like this?
I bet the no CON disinfo agents did this.

>>149769882
Why do people keep making stupid posts like this?
I bet the CON disinfo agents did this.

>>149769629
You have unlimited entries during those 4 TBL times (while they're up), you just have a point limit per day.

>>149769954
Show me a single instance of someone doing serious content without a single point in CON.
I'll wait.

>>149770232
>doing serious content
define that and i/we maybe will

>>149769252
Does the 130 dungeon drop money now?

>>149770078
how long does that TBL time last tho, an hour?

>>149770302
Urf Towah

>>149770302
>define that
Are you serious? What the fuck else could I be talking about?
ET or end game PvP
Nothing else is "serious" in this game

>>149766970
>>149766667
t. miss info

>>149770357
Yes. You should be able to get around 10 matches in that time.

>>149768671
are you guys going to continue warring people or will you be going neutral?

cus I don't need to be getting ganked around every corner as I try to level my alts or farm shit.

>>149770367
for that you gotta wait a while as im not close to it yet. or someone else can maybe deliver that.

>>149770395
>et or end game pvp are the only end games
(you)

>>149770501
I never said anything like that. Read my post again or fuck off.

>>149770439
At this point, there doesn't seem to be much sense in staying non-neutral, anyone who wants to GvG will just do the arena.
No we won't be actively warring anymore, barring exceptional cases.

>Sapper C2 Advancement Quest is bugged
>Can't advance

LOLOLOLOL

>>149770439
alts getting rekt while gw is/was kinda rare anyways. there are 9001 maps with a lot channels each (in low lvls). you rarely meet any other players at all.

getting fukd at high lvl grind maps (210+) happened now and then tho

HOW TO HASTILY LEVEL ELEMEME?

>>149770858
You don't.

no block pen from str confirmed as known issue

https://treeofsavior.com/news/?n=560

>>149770858
$$$$$$$$$

“0% Penetration 100% Frustration”
Am I dirty minded or does this sound like what I think it sounds like?

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>>149771024
>"Za Warudo"
>"0% Penetration 100% Frustration"

>cleave disconnecting you
IT WASN'T THE ADDONS