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/smtg/ - 真・女神転生/Shin Megami Tensei General

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>SMTIV Final/SMTIV Apocalypse information
http://pastebin.com/Xmjsuv0D

Participate in the new /smtg/ sings:
http://collabedit.com/uvwta
http://pastebin.com/dKLqugTC

>MTII translation project
http://www.dmanufacture.com/t-dds2.php

>Starter guide
http://i.imgur.com/zJcYpuE.png

>Tips and tricks
http://pastebin.com/bd3Bgfj8

>Artbook, soundtrack, manga, and other downloads
http://pastebin.com/NqLRYf5n

>New OST links
http://pastebin.com/kLbYxjFU

>Misc. translations
http://pastebin.com/kmMsiz1d

>Booru
http://smtg.booru.org/

>Recommended reading
http://pastebin.com/YppqPPjf

>SMT If... Tips & Tricks:
http://pastebin.com/KiwVr9Vy

>Previous thread
>>149084235
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A best.
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SMT GO when?
https://twitter.com/ginoyahutaushi/status/757376740314353664
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Only 6 weeks until we get new-release shitposting
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>>149605002
exciting
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Did yurop get a release date yet?
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>>149605389
Enjoy these threads while these last, and prepare for 500 posts the week before the game comes out asking if this is a re-release or not.
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>>149605580
cancelled
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>>149605580
qt
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>>149605580
October 7th, physical/digital release, €39
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>>149605580
ne-ver
ev-er
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>>149605580
5 months.
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Is there any reason to ever not to full MAG

Magic Flynn trivialized the entire game but I don't want to go Phys in Apocalypse if it's shit
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>>149609106
>Is there any reason to ever not to full MAG

consider playing more than smt4
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>>149609212

I don't want to burn myself out, I just finished IV and playing something between now and Apocalypse is too much.

I'll probably do SJ or Nocturne after that though.
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>>149609106
STR is better in every SMT game that isn't IV.
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>>149609805

Does Final fix that or is it still only used for default Attacks?
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>>149609106
>Is there any reason to ever not to full MAG

Because it's much more fun to pump luck and dex and blow shit up with crits while smirking for days.
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>>149609892

Fuck it, I might just go full Guns on Nanashi. It fits the character anyway.
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>>149609106
There is none. Don't listen to 'muh wurd of STR' morons here.
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>luck in 1
Never again will I go full luck.
Do you even get crits?
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>>149611321
No. It's a lot better in II, you can crit in that game.
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>>149611159
Are you saying you played I, II and Nocturne with a MAG build?
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>>149611509
There's No going back, what next do I dump in? AGI? STR?
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>>149611734
What level are you? You should max out VIT/AGI and then go full STR.
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>>149611862
17, about to go off and fight Gotou and Thor.
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>>149612904
Yeah, definitely go VIT/AGI and then STR. A lot of people recommend leveling up STR since the beginning but STR is not that good in I, it only increases your power by one and sometimes it might give you a health boost but not always.
You're gonna be using guns for most of the game anyway.
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>>149612904
bring all the demons you can
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Nocturne or Strange Journey?
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>>149615820
How do you mean? Which one do I prefer? Which one you should play?
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What apps should I be going for mostly in SMTIV?

Do I need shit like Fundraise/Scout+?

What's good to go for, at least fairly early on. Only got to Tokyo like an hour ago.
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>>149616054

All the Scout ones, all the Skill slots, some extra demon slots, auto-target weakness
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>>149616159
>Buy scout+
>unlocks "Expert Scout"
>"greatly decreases the demands of demons. ."

Holy fuck.
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>>149611713
Yes.
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>>149615820
Nocturne at home, SJ on your phone.
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Hoy.
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>>149604885
Never ever
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i_Ttz4xxXMA
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>>149620250
This would be so much better than Pokemon.
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Where can I buy a Jack Frost hat?
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NL6pfxhW47k
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So smtg, what's your favorite demon from your country?
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>>149634474
Patriot
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>>149634474
There's only 3 or 4 demons from my country.
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>>149634474
>literally learn about this nigga in primary school
>turns out he's a mainstay in my niche Japanese role-playing games

Pretty cool, man.
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>>149634474
Birth country or ethnic country?
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>>149634474
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>It's a rare shadow, I would like you to slay it.
>*Golden Hand Smirks*
>Megidola.
>Silence Circle.
>Megidola.
>Mamudoon.
>Life is but one scene from a play...
Two more floors to go, I am definitely having so much fun.

>>149634474
The Rainbow Serpent (Yurlunggur) is the only one I know about, those resistances in Nocturne were a godsend.
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ONE MORE GOD REJECTED
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WHEN I WAS
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>>149638296
working in the lab late one night
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Your demons are great and all
And your Demi-Fiend build looks pretty rad
But can he defeat Madara Uchiha
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>>149634474
I also like Moh Shuvuun and Rasputin a lot.
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>>149634474
I was actually thinking about this a few days ago. I'm fairly sure there isn't any demons from my country in this series. Which is sad, I'm from a small city and always liked hearing local legends and monster stories. Would be cool to make a party with these guys.
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>>149634474
After actually searching I found out Yowie's weren't just a children's cartoon used to sell chocolate and teach children about protecting nature.

Drop Bear or Bunyip Demon when?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WtrYO-Mog60
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>>149604885

That looks awesome. Too bad we'll never get a true-to-life version. Someone could probably make an app that simulates that.
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>>149643095
Wait so, us ausfags are represented in SMT by more than just Yurlungur? Neato.
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>>149643095
Whatever that thing is I want one.
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>>149634474
>tfw your culture is too bland to have representation
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>>149644374
There's like 8 according to the wiki.
Mokoi is apparently another example.

>>149644579
Yowie, it's a lot more adorable than I thought it would be though.
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Will Atlus announce a new game soon? They have nothing after P5.
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>>149645280
I think the SMT IV + FINAL devs are working on a new game now.
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>>149634875
The one with better demons
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night gaylords
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hoy
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Law = Democrat
Chaos = Republican

what would be neutral??
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>>149653698
Liberal Democrats are light-law
Establishment Democrats are neutral-neutral
Establishment Republicans are neutral-law
Alt-right Republicans are dark-law
Libertarians are light-chaos
Greens are light-neutral
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>>149634474
None from my birth country and my ethnic country. Unless I missed something. If we're reaching a lot then maybe Isis, she looks cool in both Kaneko style and Persona 3.
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Hoy.
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>>149604685
how soon do you think apocalypse will leak

a week or just a couple of days
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>>149658137
>not buying physical copies of megaten games
What a poorfag!
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Mudo
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>>149634474
I don't think there's a single demon from my country Portugal but I guess there could be at least 2 candidates that I know of.
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>>149659546
>wasting any amount of money on inferior version with garbage dub when you can get superior version with godly japanese voices and DLCs absolutely for free
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>>149604885
One day
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>>149665769
>playing games with whiny annoying voices you can't understand
Desu desu desu!
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>>149665903
>you can't understand
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>>149665903
>always the same fucking argument
It's not a matter of understanding or not. For instance, I play the DeSu games with voice Off because they're horrible. If they had at least a JP dub I would see if that was better or at least more fitting of each character.

Still, IV had a pretty great eng dub so I expect Final to have something of the same caliber.
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>>149653980
>>149653698
Appropriate time as any to post this.
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>>149667056
What the fuck is this Spongebob garbage? Get that shit outta here. How fucking old are you?
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>>149669023
>not liking spongebob
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>>149669023
>Spongebob came out 17 years ago
>People born in 1998 are allowed on 4chan
What a dark time we live in where time moves in a linear fashion.
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>>149670085
I think I'll go back to my own reality, where time moves in a non-linear fashion and existence isn't bound by the laws of causality.
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>>149670085
>Age having anything to do with who comes to 4chan
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>>149670194
YHVH pls.
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Hoy.
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ONE
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GOD
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ACCEPTED
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Hoy.
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>>149634474
Depends on how strictly we're going to define which part of North America the Algonquians were from tbqh.
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Hoy.
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Yoh
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lets positive posting
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>>149680535
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>>149680535
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Hoy.
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>mfw when Spookie looks exactly like someone I know irl
I can't unsee him, fuck.
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>>149685790
>my mfw face when Nemissa looks exactly like someone I know irl
I can't unsee her, fuck.
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>>149685891
>Nemissa looks exactly like someone I know irl

you wish
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>>149685891
I'm pretty sure her looks wouldn't look good irl actually.
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>>149686067
Yeah.
>>149686167
Probably.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1dFrdDtL0j8
I can't believe you faggots told me this game has bad music.
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>>149687839
Strange Journey is the most perfect SMT game in all aspects. Even every individual component is leaps and bounds above every game before and after it. It is the magnum opus of SMT and dungeon crawlers in general.
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>>149688220
Cept the music.

Prefer the metal and rock of other SMT games.
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>>149688220
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>>149688403
Only children like metal and rock, a juvenile genre for the juvenile state the SMT series was in before Strange Journey.
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>>149688894
Guess that makes me a manchild.
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>>149688220
I've been replaying it lately. It's okay. I prefer I and Nocturne.
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>>149688220
>>149688894
weak bait
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Hoy.
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>>149688894
I bet you like classical music. Shit taste.
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what does "hit%: low" mean in smtiv?
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>>149692237
Means a lower hit chance, duh. But if your AG is much higher than your enemy's, it won't be that significant.
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>>149688220
Strange Journey is an amazing and really unique game, specially in regards to atmosphere and music (I don't think it's better or worse than the music in the other games by the way, just different and very good in it's own right), but I think they fucked up really bad by not keeping the combat and fusion from Nocturne.
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>>149689113
It's telling that everybody more or less agrees with me aside from minor points and you're the only one labeling it as bait. Insecure that there's a universally agreed best SMT game.
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>>149695682
Sorry, but the best SMT game is Debisama's sword fusion, Nocturne's combat, SMT4's atmosphere, Koduka and Masuko's ghost on music, and SMT2's story.
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>>149695682
The fact that you posted >>149688894 means it's obvious bait because no one could be that retarded.
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>>149692237
Literally what it reads. "Hit percentage low." As in, low chance of hitting.
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So I've almost finished all the localized MegaTens. What series should I focus on next? Shadow Hearts? Generic Final Fantasy and Dragon Quest?
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>>149696497
You play Debisama like a real man. You cannot escape your hunger.
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>>149696497
Time to learn demon-speak and play the untranslated ones, son of man.
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>>149696497
>Final Fantasy and Dragon Quest?
How about actual good Square games?
>SaGa
>Treasure of the Rudras
>Bahamut Lagoon
>Live a Live
>Chrono Trigger
You can also try out the Dept Heaven games if you haven't yet.
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>>149696815
>How about actual good Square games?
I dunno anon, I really enjoyed Final Fantasy IV and Dragon Quest IV and V. Already played Chrono Trigger. Tried some SaGa game on the PS2. You moved around on a board and had some roulette thing. Shit game. I'll look into the others though.
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>>149698351
I'm glad it's over.
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>>149688220
Was with you until
>dungeon crawlers in general.
kill true self

>>149696497
Learn how to read the mystic script, you fucking maggot.
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>>149696135
Not an argument.
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>>149665823
EXCITING
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>>149701180
And you're not even a human being.
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>>149688220
>perfect Press Turn system replaced by awkward Co-Op attacks
>those damn hidden doors wihch require you to spin on every tile like an asshole
>Forma Farming Simulator 200X
>annoying demon conversations and fusion
>bullshit RNG
>meh OST
SJ had great atmosphere, characters and themes, but it's far from being a perfect Megaten.
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Hoy.
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Is the "SMT IV is a bad game" meme true? I'm planning to buy a 3DS just to play it but if it's bad as you guys say then I'm just going to watch the whole thing on Youtube.
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>>149705873
When people stop fellating SMT3/SJ as the best because they played them first.
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>>149705873
I hate SMT IV but I still think it's worth playing.
>I'm just going to watch the whole thing on Youtube.
Don't do that.
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>>149705873
It's not bad, but it's inferior to the previous SMT games and has some truly terrible boss designs.
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>>149705873
I think it's a solid game to start with.

It was my first SMT game.
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Hoy.
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Hoy
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Why autist summoned Luci? Is he filthy chaosfag?
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>>149688220
Music is shit
Story is shit
Coop mechanic is shit
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Funny how some anons and i talk about SMT in /gbfg/.
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>>149712863
I masturbate to a lot of characters from that game. I don't know shit about the game itself though.
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>>149712863
This general is a for homos and hoimemesters only, no wonder to be quite honest.
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>>149712863
>gachashit
Fuck off will ya.
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>>149713156
pretty weak meme
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>>149713126
This, I want to fuck all those dwarves with huge racks
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>>149713156
>there are still anons who aren't in the skype group chat
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Playing through devil survivor overlocked for the first time and in the OP's tips and tricks it says get STR and VIT to 15 for repel phys if I'm going Amane route. Is that the order or chaos route?
Someone in the previous thread said to not bother going above 8 STR
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>>149713126
Only reason i got into that game is because of the waifus.

>>149713296
You fuck off.

I don't pay a single cent, anyways.

My inner jew would flare in anger.
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>>149714257
Amane is Law. Don't bother with Repel Physical, it's not necessary. Focus on Magic and Agility.
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>>149714574
Thanks friend
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Someday I'll get in time to leech an omega yggdrasil raid.
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Is Almighty damage Magic based or Physical based? You've got some skills that do Almighty Damage that use health and some that use Mp/Sp to cast, so what's the deal?

Does it get stronger with STR or MAG? Is it a fixed damage or does it scale with some other stat?
Currently playing Persona Q, but I'd like to know what it's like in general for SMT/Persona games as well.
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>mfw Undersea Ruin dungeon in P2EP

Whoa, finally a dungeon where I got lost.

>>149718660
Magic.
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>>149718660
Generally speaking, if it costs health it's physical, if it costs MP it's magic.
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>>149604685
In which game can you fuck that girl from the OP?
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>>149719176
>>149719249
I'll just assume it's mostly magic.

Only 1/4 of the last two floors until I can save Rei.
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>>149719596
DDS.
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>>149719596
She fucks you.
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HOY.
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It was nice talking to that anon on /gbfg/ about SMT.

Anyways, Hoy.
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>mfw reading the preview on Krishna's entry in the Apocalypse artbook
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Hoy.
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Hama
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>>149726295
Null Light
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Hoy.
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>Thread so dead hoyposter needs to post almost every other post
Just let us die
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>>149719596
>girl
Jenna is a hermaphrodite anon. Though I guess she does get refereed to by she and her.
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I miss the old /smtg/. The one that drew pic related and streamed on Fridays.
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>>149728839
No, you die!
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http://eirikrjs.tumblr.com/post/148021585577/smt4fa-is-not-xenophobic-at-all
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>>149724464

Link?
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>>149731654
>>149731209
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STR or DEX for Apocalypse? I went full MAG in IV
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>>149732131
DEX.

Shoot up some demons.
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>>149732131
>>149732242
>not going pure STR and not using skills like Hero and Aleph did
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>>149731209
Why is this even an issue at all
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>>149731209
At least he's not claiming it's "transphobic" like that other piece of shit and SH.
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>>149732682
Krishna's implied to be behind the persecution of Christians in Japan, and the crucifixion of 26 Martyrs of Japan. The shogunate dindu nuffin.
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>>149733308
As expected of poo in loo
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>>149733496
But it was the Japanese.
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>>149732682
he makes poorly thought out posts that get posted here for some reason
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>>149734075
Because it has an artbook translation in it.
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>>149732682
There's been a surge in Japanese nationalism lately (for better or for worse) that has foreign observers panicking that they aren't committing suicide by population replacement like other evil nations such as Germany fast enough.
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>>149734292
Oy vey
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>>149734292
Nationalism isn't getting them to fuck so I'm not sure what you're getting at.
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>>149734292
>suicide by population replacement
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>>149733075
What?
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>>149734546
It gets people to care more about fucking rather than being total apathetic wageslaves.
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>>149734580
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>>149735118
But they're still not fucking so again, I'm not sure how being nationalistic about a country that encourages that shitty wageslave culture is helping them.
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>>149734580
Hello Yurope
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>>149735580
I'm an Amerifat
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>>149735850
Get out of my country communist
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>>149736174
>>>/pol/
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>>149736243
You don't have to be /pol/ to hate commies.
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>>149736243
Shut up Ronaldo, go back to waterworld
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>>149736174
how'd you know
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>>149736520
Ronaldo a shit.
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>>149736647
Because I can smell a lawfag a mile away.
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>>149736715
>lawfag
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>>149736835
>any kind of anarchy
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>>149737034
>Not siding with Dagda
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>>149737475
I am become death, destroyer of gods
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>>149737475
Can't wait for Apocalypse to show the flaws of Neutrality.
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>>149734075
>Why do people post things that spark ontopic discussion
>Why do people post things that include official interviews
It's a real mystery
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>>149737763
Because he's butthurt about a Japanese game where you kill gods making a god into a piece of shit

That guy is also super butthurt about SMT4A
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>>149737829
I think he's more butthurt that it's not really accurate to Krishna but how is that relevant to my answer to your question
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>>149737657
You'll be disappointed.
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>>149738126
Fuck it, spoil me.
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>>149738102
I dunno mayne
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>>149737657
We don't need Apocalypse to do that, not that it will since it's more of a fuck yea neutral thing.
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>>149738232
>We don't need Apocalypse to do that

We don't?

People go on about how Neutral is the best option or canon.
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>>149738170
Law and Chaos are early game bad endings. The entire game is about showing you how humans can do anything if they work together. Dagda is a Strawman, that the game goes out of its way to portray as completely wrong about everything.
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>>149738578
We see them brought up in other games. They just go over people's heads. There is no hope, anon.
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>>149738778
I hope this is bullshit because, what the fuck.

Don't tell me this is because the new development team i've heard about that want SMT to be more positive.

>>149739026
>They just go over people's heads

Or letting their human pride blind them.
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>>149739391
The first part at least is true.
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Which route should I do first in Apocalypse?

I went Law in IV.
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>>149740670
Edge ending.
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>>149740670
Law again :^)
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>>149740670
Doing what Danu wants results in the dumbest ending. Whether you want that done first or last is your preference.
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can someone upload their hoy folder
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>>149740856

What does Danu want?
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>>149741171
For you to fuck over Dagda so she can make fairy paradise.
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>>149741169
I could, but I won't because I'm a paranoid faggot.
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>>149741357

Is that an ending? I thought there were just Law/Chaos early ends and then Peave and Anarchy.
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>>149741475
it's okay you dont have to then
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>>149741826
It's the peace ending.

>>149741886
Sorry anon.
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I just picked up Soul Hacker new on 3DS for $27. Worth it? I've been a big SMT fan for over a decade but I've read almost nothing about this game or the port. Did I fuck up?
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>>149742116
It's good, especially if you're a fan of the older dungeon crawlers. The port is fine and has a number of optional convenience features, but the game itself is fairly modern and speedy as is.
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in raidou 1 did Narumi always know raidou was a devil summoner? i cant remember it's been so long and the wiki for the game sucks
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Hoy.
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>>149742116
It's the best SMT you can play on handheld. Strange Journey is trash in comparison.
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>>149745552
Devil Survivor is the best handheld one
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>>149745904
That's not how you spell P4 Golden.
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>>149746248
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>>149746248
Ehhhhhhh. I like Persona 4 Golden, but even I wouldn't go that far, senpai.

Devil Survivor is the better. Digital Devil maybe. One of them.
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>>149746248
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>>149746535
>>149746549
>>149747043
Troll'd ya ;)
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>>149605580
Published by Deep Silver
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>>149604685
what if in smt5 they put in kamurocho as a district in tokyo
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>>149604685
does smt4 apocalypse have n3ds compatability?

ie can i use the c-stick or zr/zl for camera control?
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>>149750489
Seeing as SMT V is heading back to PlayStation (after that godawful Nintendo exclusivity deal), it wouldn't be to bad to have some Yakuza cameos.
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>>149751135
What is this exclusivity deal meme?
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>>149751059
I really doubt it.

The camera is still perfectly manageable with the shoulder buttons and reset button.
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>>149751276
Meme? I mean how Nintendo paid Atlus for exclusivity over many of their titles.
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>>149751276
What poor teenagers tell themselves to cope with the fact that they're missing out on all these cool new megaten games.
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>>149751418
But the PlayStation/PlayStation 2 had the best MegaTens...
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>>149751487
>Ps1 didn't have Debisama
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>>149751487
Maybe, but you're still poor.
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>>149751715
>Maybe
lol
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>>149731209
I wish google would stop linking to this retard's blog whenever you try to get hd demon artwork, his blind fanaticism for kaneko and pretentious faux intellectualism are cringe worthy.
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>>149696497
ateliers
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>>149751681
It's a shame that the Saturn flopped.

It had pretty unique graphics, it was the best system for the current fighting games, it managed to get plenty of good RPGs, and had a great sound chip.
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>>149752363
I have many JP Sega Saturn games, so it literally pains me that I will never have the time to efficiently learn Japanese and play them all
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SMT x NX.
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>>149752475
But the Nintendo Exclusivity deal is over...
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>But the Nintendo Exclusivity deal is over...
Keep telling this to yourself before sleep, sonycuck.
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>>149750489
That'd be pretty sick, I love Kamurocho.
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company shitters, leave
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>>149752713
Everyone needs to leave.

This place is only for me, the one with the superior tastes and opinions.
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>>149751715
>Maybe
Best SMT (Nocturne), Best Devil Summoner, Best Persona.

And with SMTV being confirmed for PS4... PlayStation always wins.
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>>149752821
I want a world where the shitposters are the strongest ones.
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Reminder that nintendo censors SMT games ever since its creation.
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>>149752984
Just get a job, kid.
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>>149753073
>this upset Apocalypse is the last Nintendo exclusive
lol
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>>149752951
that is our world
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>>149737657
>Can't wait for Apocalypse to show the flaws of Neutrality.
You will not be disappointed. IVF's neutral routes are probably the shittiest ones in the history of MT.
Dagda's route is a little bit better from an ideological viewpoint but it's (above all in the end) depicted as evil like >>149738778 said. I still think he made better arguments for his route than Danu/Nozomi and he has the opportunity to do so a lot with all of his edgy remarks only 774 can hear.
For Danu read the next paragraph.

>>149741171
Kill YHVH but still preserve his world. Peace between humanity and gods/demons despite that being risky as fuck (if humanity isn't strong enough it might happen again, Danu really isn't trustworthy and already acts like YHVH so she might as well turn out to be the new one). The Great Will supports this for whatever reason.
Probably because it's literally "the good ending" and The Great Will is a benevolent thing despite all the arguments brought up against YHVH for why he's shit applies also on the Great Will with it really having created everything and a lot more power.
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>>149752984
lol?
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>>149743213
I think so. The game states that Narumi works with/assists the Yatagarasu, so seeing how he's worked with them in the past (or at least the Detective Agency has), and the nature of the Yatagarasu/the messenger itself, I'd say he knew Raidou was a Devil Summoner, or at a bare minimum not a normal person.
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>>149754519
>SMT games
Nice reading comprehension slick.
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>>149754179

And what does Dagda want?
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>>149752949
Best SMT is on SNES and fucking iPhones.
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>>149712428
Free will vs. Brainwashed order of Meritocracy.
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>>149755456
No. The best SMT is Nocturne, the best Megaten is Persona 3.

>iOS
kys
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>>149755580
Nocturne was all style and no substance. Not a single part was as intense as the better moments of the first game.
Don't worry it runs on your PS1 if you understand 日本語.
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>>149755708
(You)
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>>149755079
Kill every god including himself, he calls it returning to his natural state. Humanity ruling itself with 774 becoming the ruler of the world with Flynn defending him from Godkillers of other universes and the Megami giving birth to a new, better, independent, free humanity, not sure if you sacrifice only one soul of your friends for the creation of the world or every one except the Megami. As usual how the new world/humanity looks like is not explicitly shown.
Since it's implied that humanity will reach the next step and isn't the same as before, I'm pretty sure gods will never be a threat anymore in this ending
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>>149756050
I can't wait for SMTV on PS4 to retcon all this.
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>>149735171
What's Yuki Mishima doing in smtg?
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>>149756263
Waiting for the exclusive deal with Nintendo to end, thankfully it is.
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>>149754519
That's not censorship, it's a misguided change based on Region.
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>>149733308
Explains why angels and demons are helping Sukuna Hikona lock him away.
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>>149634474
Stonka directly referencing my country.
Then Rusalka and Vodyanik.
Chernobog after them.
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>>149752951
There are plenty of generals to go to for that.
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>>149733308
That doesn't make sense. Why Krishna?
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>>149762036
Read the interview in the post linked. It still doesn't really make sense after reading desu.
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Night /smtg/.
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It's past noon.
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>>149754179
I think i see the flaws of Peace already.

The humans who believe in God and the demons are still alive, unlike in the Anarchy ending where ALL humans die, therefore, God dies for good.
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>>149734075
>>149734292

Blaming Hindi gods for the death of japanese christians is still fucking retarded though
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Does anyone have a link for the DeSu2 Special Arrangement album? I remember getting it from the OST links thing ages ago, but it's not there anymore.
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>>149756263

Yukio mishima is a smt character silly
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>>149768062
Was it this one? idk if that link is still active or not.
https://ddsdork.wordpress.com/2015/07/18/devil-survivor-2-kenji-ito%e2%98%85atlus-sound-team%e2%98%85special-soundtrack/
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>>149768767
That's the one, thanks anon.
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>Demonic gene is canon and the explanation for people in Mikado becoming demons is they have some built in killswitch
Maybe it's my own fault for filling in the blanks myself, but I liked the concept better when I thought it was just incredibly strong emotions turning them, and that reds worked because of a ridiculously strong high. I guess I can understand why some things are better left unanswered.
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>>149754875
P1 is as SMT as if...
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Welcome blessed samurai!
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>>149767639
Anarchy has it's flaws too. New Humanity will just make the same mistakes as old Humanity, and they will blame all their problems on Creator Nanashi.
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>>149769251
You should ignore everything outside of the SMTIV maingame. Manga, DLC, Final are bullshit.
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>>149741171
Inanna's powers and a place for the fairies.
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>>149775520
Thanks.
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>>149775520
you too
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>>149756757
>the exclusive deal with Nintendo
Good, glad we have a brand new meme for shitposters to force.
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Why does PS2 emulation gotta be so shitty compared to GC? Dolphin runs like a dream on a shit pc.
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>>149779054
Dolphin is actively being worked on by a lot of people with optimization in mind
I haven't had too many problems with PCXS 2 but I do have a decent cpu/gpu and you have to fiddle around with the settings for certain games (like when to use MTVU)
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>>149779054
I've resorted to just buying a PS2 second hand and modding it.
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>>149779601
>tfw you have a copy of 007 but still can't work out how FreeMcboot works
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>>149780064
haha me too

but im not just stupid, im also lazy
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>>149780064
>>149780185
The first and only thing that went wrong with me was that the Flashdrive I used wasnt formatted FAT32 yet.

Otherwise, this guide is pretty clear and covers mostly everything.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LMaQ74QwnTY
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>>149774217
That's what I was doing until IVF came around with its "everything is canon, even our retarded totally not retcons" deal. I liked IV's plot and seeing the dumb implications about it from IVF is souring things a bit.

>>149776953
>brand new meme
>brand new
People have been trying to force this for ages. As you might've guessed it hasn't worked.
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>>149780530
i have a slim dammit
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>>149780869
He has a guide for that on his channel to I think but I seem to remember that being harder to do for some reason. I'm not a 100% on that but I think I picked fat for a reason. Was cheaper too, ofcourse.
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>>149779601
Why not just buy the physical games at that point? They're only like $20 each and they look nice on a shelf.
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Honestly, if the current rumors about NX are true it means that handheld game with P5 assets isn't impossible.
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>>149782024
That'd be great but I highly doubt they're true.
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>>149781986
They are? I'd assumed they'd be rare and kinda expensive.
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>>149781986
I'm assuming you only mean Megaten cause otherwise HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

I'm the one with the slim, and desu, I'll probably buy a second one to mess with (this one is starting to have problems anyway).
The main reason I'm interested is because I have a shitty laptop, and would like to own less stuff. There's also shit like .hack which I'd like to try but is way too expensive.

I'm still salty our original PS2 was stolen, and I've been stuck buying random used ones as needed. Oh well, at least they didn't steal my Pokemon Yellow GBC, Lunar game, and all the other games I had piled in my room. I think all I lost was Xenosaga 1.
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>>149782806
>I'm assuming you only mean Megaten
Well yeah, obviously.

Do yourself a favor and build a somewhat okay PC anon. I built mine for $400 and it emulates PS2 games beautifully. Also plays games from 2014 and older on High.
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>>149783631
I would if I could, but poorfag
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>>149784472
How unfortunate. Try getting a better job anon. And if you don't already have one, you're being a poorfag by choice.
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>tfw playing SMT: IV and can already feel the Chaos ending coming

All the damn law options are so fucking stupid, dammit.

>spare your best childhood friend even though he's transformed into a demon
>I mean, he's still talking and obviously aware and conscious but there's no help for him I swear ;)
>Hey, you know those Ashura-Kai douchebags who occasionally attack you on the street and generally just block your progress
>kill a reasonable demon for them for no reason other then "They told you to" ;)

There better be some fucking reasonable law options coming up soon so I can become neutral here.
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>>149785520
I didn't ask to have a shopping list of health problems. Get off my back, Law Hero.
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>>149785813
>shopping list of health problems
Are you one of those people that use anxiety and such as an excuse to be lazy, anon? I know a lady who has to lean against a shopping cart to walk around a store, and another who is missing an arm. There are jobs out there for everyone.
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What demons are from UK/English mythology?
Can only think of the celtic ones off the top of my head
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>>149786274
Not that it matters, but I also mean physical ailments. I still apply for jobs, but nothing comes of it. Right now, I can't even do that because I don't have a phone, so
Some health issues, and shitty job market are related to my family moving to a different part of the country. Oh well, shit happens.
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>>149786274
>There are jobs out there for everyone.
Not him but no. It all depends on the health problem(s). I have a relative who is legally disabled and her case is so bad that companies who have quotas for disabled employees refuse to hire her because she's way too disabled. It's all hereditary bullshit so I'm scared shitless I'll become like her someday.
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>>149785584
There is a major Law choice where the Chaos option is pretty retarded, I played the opposite (mostly Law choices and then a big Chaos choice) and swung into neutral by the alignment lock.
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>>149786793
Pixie, Titania, Oberon, Alice
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>>149785584
>not purging all the demons in tokyo
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>>149792010
>getting rid of demonfus
Fuck you.
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>>149794794
hideous
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http://www.pixiv.net/member_illust.php?mode=medium&illust_id=57763965
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You should watch Garo, son of man, and learn how to eradicate the evil from this world.
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>>149756986
Are you retarded?
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Hoy.
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>>149792010
Nearly every demon in IV's sidequest I've met have been reasonable or a jerk.
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Hoy.
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Cocytus
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>>149769251
I prefer it because it fit with exactly what I had been saying but anons refused to listen. Even the artbook revealed the angels changed the people in the arks, Akira was accepted as King by the archangels, Flynn is LITERALLY descended from filth just like Jon and it was their genes that were unworthy, and Jon is literally thr most untrustworthy narrator when the archangels are gone and civilization surrounds the monks who were left in charge, and the caste system was only a problem due to Lilith and Mastema interference.

It's even funnier since the mangas were made to answer things in the plot around the same time as the games release and show Jon and Walt can be Law/Chaos without going to the extreme.

Now I can look back and have the last laugh.
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>>149773241
New humanity can't make false gods to lead them astray. That was a problem in the old one.
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>>149797373
Evil always exist. Their job is just to not pet it win and if Medieval Nippon Garou is an example even maximum edge darkness can be saved.
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They should get Kaneko to design a new fiend based on a mexican mariachi
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Screw the final battle of Persona Q.
It took me like 2 hours to beat both bosses, but it wasn't hard and Rei didn't even get much screentime in the last 1/5 of the game.

The music was great though.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d5IftkVs6ro
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XzAScczx_oo
It was a clichéd bittersweet ending just like I expected and now I feel sad that it's over.

Gonna go move onto an actual SMT game soon, what's a good dungeon crawler one? I have a love/hate relationship with them.
>>
Playing Devil Survivor

When the heck do I get a party member other than Keisuke? I mean he's cool but this game is absolutely teasing the hell out of you with all these seemingly more interesting characters who can also control demons ('cept Midori, screw that retard)

I'm almost done Day 3 atm
>>
>>149792384
>>149801414
Tokyo ain't gonna clean itself.
If they wanted to live they should have stayed in the expanse like good boys.
>>
Oh fuck I have to choose a side in DeSu 2 what do.
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>>149814616
>screw Midori
Really m8?
And yeah, in a day or two you'll get a party member or two.

You like the game so far?
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>>149816926
Fight for what you believe in.
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>>149817291
I really like Yamato's ideals but I don't know, from what I've heard it sounds like a weird fusion between SJ's Law ending and a bit of Chaos thrown in there.
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>>149810935
It still don't explain a lot of things like why the people lying saying they dind't read the books do not turned into demons inb4 brainwashing way before the alignment lock a samurai says the calsuaries were lying in interrogations and that Lilith corrupted the ones chosen by god. The more expostion they give to SMT IV plot the shittier it gets desu.
>>
What's some of your favorite anime, /smtg/?
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>>149817291
Unless it's for one of the harder endings
Then you need a guide
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>>149817223
It feels like the pacing is kinda slow, like I'm 21 hours in and all that's really happened is that more people are using COMPs, government is quarantining that part of Tokyo and the game is introducing a bunch of characters

I can understand that this is probably a setup for something bigger, and the writing is marvelous, the characters and world feel very real and legitimate. It's a lot of world-building but desu I want some crazy stuff to happen already
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>>149810935
The thing is, the explanations given to us now open up a lot of questions on their own. Like, why did Walter not turn into a demon when he decided to fuck off from Mikado if being corrupted by filth and moving away from the Archangels activates this killswitch. Same for Flynn on any route that isn't law. Now you can't just brush it off as if even they felt strong enough to take action and weren't as angry as say Issachar. You get an actual plot hole.
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Is DeSu2 related at all to DeSu1? Or is it just called 2 because it has similar gameplay?
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>>149643095
God i loved yowies. Shame they stopped selling them. Used to collect this little fuckin animals.
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>>149818679
Gameplay only. DeSu 2 it's more similar to traditional jrpgs with its ancient aliens stuff.
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>>149818679
It's worse desu
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>>149814595
>what's a good dungeon crawler one? I have a love/hate relationship with them
Strange Journey.
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>>149818424
The setup pays off, it's easy to miss really important events in the later days, and each route has like 10+ hours exclusive content with different party members joining, etc.

Probably the best MT on 3DS when all is said and done.
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>>149818626
Because he too is descended from filth. It triggers more easily when you are pure.
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>>149819367
>best MT on 3DS
Nothing says best MT like microwave bombs and generic shonen characters
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>>149819695
It's implied the samurai are descended from filth in general as it predisposes you to gauntlet use. There are samurai that still turn into demons, Hope being a notable example. IVF is an example of why you don't need to explain the mechanics behind every little thing in a story and why you shouldn't try to expand upon a finished story.
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>>149818626
Walrer is a dumb country bumpkin turned off at the very idea of reading. Everything he talks about is things he heard or saw instead of actual direct exposure to civilization like games, movies, books, etc.
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>>149818679
Frosty gets referenced at one point but other than that no.
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>>149819934
All the samurai in the DLC that turned did so because of Hugo and not necessarily reading books. One of the measures that turns them is just "exposure to filth/knowledge" and nothing else. Walter was absolutely exposed to it regardless of method.
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>>149819367
>it's easy to miss really important events in the later days, and each route has like 10+ hours exclusive content with different party members joining, etc.

Oh jeez really? What's the point of no return? When should I make a savepoint?
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>>149819925
Yes but that's because Hugo intentionally cases the switch to go off, otherwise it takes much longer for someone to fall under its inluence. There's a fucking Casualry reading Paradise Lost and NOT turning into a demon before the angels brainwashed him with their descent and he'd been reading books for awhile.
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>>149820134
Walter also has tons of mystic relics which he used to do that anon. Walter literally got bored at the idea of reading when the baker brought it up. Not to mention how fast it infects varies from person to person. Walter has a high tolerance even in Demonic Gene.
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>>149814595
Nope.

Now you move on to the ultimate boss battle of Persona Q like a man, so you are invited to Yggdrasil, where new adventures await.
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>>149820136
Yeah, and I'm saying that's a problem now we know that one of the causes is exposure/acceptance to that knowledge itself instead of reaction to it. It was also almost instantaneous for the people in Flynn's village since they were only exposed when Issachar brought books.
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>People finally realizing SMT IV plot it's pure nonsense bullshit
Can this general finally acknowledge that game is shit?
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>>149820287
>Hugo has tons of mystic relics
I goofed.
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>>149820363
We already acknowledged that Strange Journey is the only game in the series worth discussing at this point, or at least it's the only one with enough depth that it can sustain this general alone with discussion.
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>>149820363
I had fun.
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>>149820135
The big route split will be obvious, don't want to spoil the others but as a rule just make sure you do each available battle as soon as it opens up when you get to Day 6 and onward.
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>>149820475
Alright, thanks
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>>149820363
Never.

I won't help to perpetuate this meme.
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>>149820363
It was still fun, even if I am butthurt they ruined a story that made sense with needless exposition. Japan in particular really has a knack for doing that, now that I think about it.
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>>149820356
Increased aggression is a sign of its influence People are not born equal. Some are more easily swayed than others. Exposure to civilization is no different.

Humans are not equal and you're seeing it as them all being exactly the same genetic wise.
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>>149820574
Do you mean the side material and now the spin-off/what if game?

Because while the alignment reps go full retard for the sake of fitting their alignment, but the lore of the game and most of its events are pretty cool.
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>>149820561
>this meme

It has shitty Persona hallway dungeon crawling and turned fusion into a casualized joke with demons being able to learn every skill and delete birth skills.

But it isn't anime so it will always be a success to some people.
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>>149820845
>But it isn't anime
It is now.
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>>149820287
>>149820624
When Walter, Isabeau, and Jonathan are easily the most exposed of any of the samurai and don't turn even when Walter and Jonathan straight up go full chaosfag. It doesn't make sense.

>>149820796
Yeah.
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>>149820796
honestly the real redpill is recognizing alignments are stupid as fuck and you should never expect good writing around them
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>>149820969
We're talking about the original game.

>>149820982
>and Jonathan
and Flynn I mean.
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>>149820845
>criticizing the game for updating outdated gameplay
Why Atlus fanbase it's repleted with such cancerous hardcore geimuhrs?
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>>149819314
Already played it anon, that's what got me into SMT.

>>149820313
>ultimate boss battle of Persona Q
Shit you're right, I forgot about that.
That should hold me over for a while.
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>>149820982
Anon you don't get it. A week or month AT MOST is how long they'd been in Tokyo. Time moves faster on the surface. Even Flynn had been a Samurai for a few days or even weeks before Issachar held the sabbath and became a demon.

And again humans are not equal. Some are easily influenced while others are not.
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>>149821249
The demons just lose all individuality when they can learn every skill. You compile the moveset once and then just transfer it to the next "magic" demon or "strength" demon.

DeSu fusion is the best, you can choose skills you want but you have to design them around demons' pre-existing skills, so that sometimes deciding between two skills for a particular battle comes up.

Just post more greentext instead of actually refuting me now.
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>>149820982
There was still one angel on the surface and three below. Their presence hampers it. Since the monks were surrounded by the stuff Gabriel always had to be around them.
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>>149820452
Kek
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>>149821341
>Even Flynn had been a Samurai for a few days or even weeks before Issachar held the sabbath and became a demon.
Flynn was a samurai for like, two days before Issachar became a demon. The people in his village were literally exposed the very night you go there. Walter being influenced by peaking at a book and then not being influenced or even fucked over by the Archangels for that matter after all that direct exposure to Tokyo and embracing filth is retarded.
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>>149821547
There weren't any below when they split ways mate.
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>>149820845
Sorry, but I'm not a robot who asserts the quality of a game on binary choices like
>10/10. GOAT game
Or
> -500000/10. Shit game

So I'll keep equally praising and shitting on IV for all what is worth.
But I won't perpetuate the "IV is shit" meme.
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>>149821249
casual detected.
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>>149821709
Because that unrealistic and not what will happen.

You still don't know jack. Issachar had been back at the village for days and some NPCs mentioned he had yet to return. Issachar had been giving books to the youn uns and sharing knowledge. Lilith was also there.

It was more than a few days cause he saw Issachar a couple days after the Navarre mess when they went to get bread.
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>>149821896
The fuck is this? I didn't gave it an arbitary number rating, I pointed out two very specific flaws compared to your post saying fucking nothing except "Don't be mean to my game".
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>>149821934
>rpgs require skill
spot the guy who can't play action games
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All of you fucking SMT IV defenders, get out of my fucking thread NOW and go back to /pg.
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>>149821834
Yeah but they don't stay in Mikado that long afterwards.

>>149821709
It takes anearly a day to get there just by walking alone I recall. Samurai got there due to horseback I believe.
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>>149822124
spot the guy who can't draw a fucking map
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>>149822059
>Issachar had been back at the village for days
Didn't he mentions that it takes almost half a day to get to his village from Mikado? Cause that would mean quite some time had passed, especially considering Flynn and co and to travel there as well.
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>>149822059
>Issachar had been back at the village for days
You see him go off to the village the very morning of the day everything goes to shit. He hadn't.
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>>149820452
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>>149821834
Mastema.

Also angels guard Kanda Shrine.
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>>149822279
>It takes anearly a day to get there just by walking alone I recall.
Yes, that's why I'm saying it didn't take long for them to turn at all. Issachar had gotten there not that long ago, and the samurai got there by horseback which cut their travel time.

>>149822420
>The archangels
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Remember when /smtg/ loved MegaTen? Now everyone just shits on all the games. Why does this general even exist anymore?
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>>149823330
>You can't like things and point out their flaws
Kill yourself my man.
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Finally reached Monado Mandala, what a ride.

Am I ok using just the ultimate personas and spamming Dragon Cross like I did in IS or Nyarly will fuck my ass?
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>>149822318
Actually they never say when it happens. They do that quite a bit. We just know he parts ways with his fellows and one night Walter wakes him up.

>>149822567
He's an Archangel too clearly.
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>>149823431
But that's all everyone does. Points out flaws. Point out the good stuff too.

Some people do just straight up say the games are shit though
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>>149822567
Which shows that most of Kiccigiorgi are weak willed and easily tempted. Thus weak humans.
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>>149823330
this fanbase is full of shitty contrarians in general, also there is nothing to discuss
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>>149822567
They were reading books while talkng how much they loathed the Luxurors. Pretty easy for them to change.
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>>149823576
IV has a good soundtrack, some good scenes, Tokyo was a great setting and it had some more neat stuff like Infernal/Blasted.
Am I positive enough for you yet, Maya?
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>>149823330
Remember when SJ wasn't lauded as a masterpiece despite being a average game with some good dungeons
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>>149823557
>We just know he parts ways with his fellows and one night Walter wakes him up.
Walter wakes him up the same night going by game presentation. Trying to pretend it's not the same night because they don't explicitly tell you is dumb.

>>149823702
Walter and Flynn got tempted and still didn't turn though?

>>149823876
And Walter talked about how much he hated Mikado's system, abandoned the place, and was exposed to civilization through relics more than any of them were over the course of days.

>>149823576
IV was still fun and the stuff with Blasted and Infernal Tokyo was baller. Combat was good, smirk be damned. Fusion was fun even if it needed some restrictions.

/v/ermin who like the "board/general hates thing they're dedicated to" meme.
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>>149824242
yes it changed in the summer of 2013 after SMT IV came out and people went through the usual phase of heralding the previous game in the series as truly superior all long to rationalize any sense of disappointment with a new release. coupled with SJ cap anon spamming random pics of SJ and this general became truly shit for months before becoming a dumpster fire with SMT IV's European release exacerbating the previous problem and #FE killing anons worldwide

now all you do is talk about how much you hate anime and jump up and down screaming about space marines like an 8 year old who just played Halo
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>>149824247
He talked about it but he wasn't exposed to knowledge. This is so easy to get why do you have such a hard time to get it?

Walter is from a fishing village and Flynn never read mystic script himself. He always uses the gauntlet.
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>>149824556
>now all you do is talk about how much you hate anime and jump up and down screaming about space marines like an 8 year old who just played Halo
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>>149823434
>Nyarly will fuck my ass?
Yes

If you haven't yet, get a persona that has Affectionate Prayer so you can cast the group buffing fusion spells. Maha-Samakaja/Rakukaja in particular are pretty much a necessity, because he hits fast and hard, and Makakaja/Tarukaja will let you eat through his health faster as well. You probably will never get an chance to cast Dragon Cross either, because you will be healing constantly.

Also, this is not necessary, but you might wanna know that the Fenrir enemy in this dungeon drops All-Incenses (which you are garanteed to get if you negotiate and ask for an item). So, instead of killing him when you encounter him, you might wanna use this opportunity boost your stats a bit before the last fight.
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>>149824628
>he wasn't exposed to knowledge
Nigger, what? Lilith straight up taught him herself. You can get knowledge from places other than books. The very DLC that brings up the demonic gene shit confirms this.
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>>149824247
Walter is a dumb simplebguy who never exposes himself to knolwedge. He says it himself he likes Infernal Tokyo because it's so simple and uncomplicated. No one has ever thought a genius would think Liliths plans are smart. Walter has been dumb and never sought to change from being an idiot. Hell I LIKE Walter but he's such a dummy.
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>>149825052
When makes his speech to leave he talks about seeking knowledge and wisdom. Lilith already redpilled him at that point.
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>>149824819
Telling him stuff =/= actual exposure to knowledge. She said what Walter wanted to hear and it's simple and uncomplicated world of str. He doesn't have to think but follow blindly these simple words.

Civilization has always referred to books and other learning materials. Of which Lilith used none. She knew he was perfect as a pawn that's why she has the child of carnage prophecies to teach the equally dumb Gaens.
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do scans of birth of smtiv exist anywhere online?
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I don't understand
why do the demons in devil survivor get to move 2x before I get to move again if we have same speed?
Saving this cosplayer is annoying since half the demons can attack you from range 2x in a row without you being able to do shit
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>>149825185
She just told him what he wanted to hear and he took the bait. He failed to realize how utterly under their thumb that he is. Lilith even knew his simple mentality would lead him to sacrifice himself to Lucifer.
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>buzz-cutted

Come on, ATLUS.
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>>149825395
>Telling him stuff =/= actual exposure to knowledge.
Lilith's mentions her words being knowledge and wisdom when she gets executed, and this still doesn't explain why constant exposure to mystic relics didn't fuck him up when exposure fucked up Mikado through Hugo.

>>149825619
Okay? Just like all the other people who fell for her teachings?

Honestly I'm gonna stop here. We're going in circles and our discussion is making other anons upset.
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>>149825769

Fuck, I just had the game crash on me after going into the house to the lower right of that picture. It's rare that I have a console game crash and I think it's the first time I've had a MegaTen game crash.
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>>149825543
Maybe they have a passive skill like flight or phantasm.

You should try to have someone with those too.
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>>149825895
She's talking about the books she spreads and how she'll give them more.

Hugo was in charge OF THE ENTIRE KINGDOM. This is not a joke. He was still in charge due to Merkabah and the Four. He could order the Samurai to spread books and read them and no one would defy or stop him. That's what happens when you make a guy into your voice to the masses.
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>>149825895
The Gaens are ordinary humans but yes they are also idiots. They immediately fall for Miroku's spiel too in Apoc.
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>>149825517
If it's art you want it's scattered and not fully scanned. If it's the info there's some pastebin floating around somewhere with a good chunk of it.
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>>149826520
Oh boy, how exactly did they fall for it?
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>>149826520
All I'm going to say is Lilith taught more than just Walter and the Gaeans.

>>149826952
They're retarded.
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>>149827101
She didn't teach them anything beyond giving them books. She let them corrupt themselves. She's the snake in the garden seducing Eve to eat the apple.

>>149826952
Fell for the salvation plan of the Poly Alliance. They discarded the Gaens the moment they no longer needed them and let them think they were weak so they'd fall back under Lucys thumb.
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>>149826295
i just used one of those evil wave demons in the MC's party and used an ogre to bind the bum rushing jack frosts to finally win
Also I misread, they had 45 speed apparently, not 50 like me
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>>149826952
Weed.
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>Haru isn't recruitable in DeSu

FUCK
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Is SMT IV on hard mode actually decently difficult?
I'm torn between replaying 4 on NG+ hard mode or SJ and going for the law ending, which I hear is hardest because Gore + Aleph.
Otherwise I'll just play P4G like a fucking babby.
Being on holiday sucks desu, I can only play portable games that I've already finished. I don't recommend leaving your houses ever.
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>tfw #FE is more fun than Final
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>>149819881

Generic? Not that guy, but I thought most of the characters were well-done except FUCKING Midori.
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>>149830520
Not really. If you haven't gone neutral or white I'd replay it but otherwise play SJ.
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>>149831646
Not surprising, Final is literally a cashgrab expansion.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YtJ_d8cLNrI

So has Mark been in this thread all along?
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>>149831646
>anon regrets turning back on masterpiece of design, character and this generation
>a game with real challenge and puzzles
Why didn't you have faith in the GOTY in the first place?
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>>149832256
Don't you got some dead bodies to find? Get lost.
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>>149832256
Who?
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>>149832256
Figuratively who?
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>>149831795
>I'm justice nerdling who used to be bullied
>indie rocker girl
>edgy school deliquent
>Amane and Naoya are the walking embodiment of their alignments
>Atsuro has no personality to the point he backs you up no matter which ending you choose
While DeSu has its strong points the characters definitely isn't one of them
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>some retard on /r/megaten arguing that Chaos is good because it's more noble to get shanked as a free man than to be a slave to a system

why are all Chaosfags like this
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>>149833284
alignments are dumb
if you unironically think Law or Chaos is good you're not just dumb, you're stupid
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>>149833284
>Going to r/megaten
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>>149833284
Chaos is better in the spinoffs. Law has Desu I guess.
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>>149833359
Explain your reason.
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>>149833284
>being a lawfag AND a redditor to boot
wew
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>>149833284
>r/megaten
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>Keisuke leaves my party on Day 4

OH SHIT WHEN DO I GET A REPLACEMENT
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>>149833515
they are moral extremes, there is no nuance. both are anti-humanity and the leaps taken by their representatives to rationalize joining them are almost always ridiculous. the only real exception is II where Chaos is all about fighting the man and Lucifer is pledging to protect everyone, it's out of character.
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>>149834258
Not really Lucifer is a bit naive, a tad arrogant, and miunderstands how the world works in II. He apologizes in a Visionary Item as he believed demons were still the ones influencing the world like they did thousands of years ago.

The Three Archangels are rare exceptions since they made a fake YHVH cause they are just that crazy.
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>>149834548
fair enough, that's more understandable then
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>>149827503
I dunno, even though Poly Alliance were jerks, they were more interesting than Law and Chaos.
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>>149833746
Day 6, in Day 5 the three amigos have to choose between saving Mari from Kuldak, and saving Keisuke from Kaido and his OP as fuck Pazuzu.
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>>149835258
No one said they weren't. That's why the whole Krishna killing Christian Nips don't bother me. He's still an interesting guy despite it.
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>>149835035
He does decide to stay in Alephs heart cause it's warm.
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>>149835631
>For 4 whole days
>4 WHOLE DAYS
>You're stuck with 3 party members

Why man
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>>149833284
I think you need to leave.
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Hey guys I only have enough money to buy one

DeSu1 or DeSu2?
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>>149836418
DeSu desu.
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>>149836475
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>>149836418
DeSu1
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>>149836573
Get DeSu1
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>>149836418
desu baka desu senpai
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>>149836573
>>149836418
desu_
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>>149835669
It bothers me because we'll never get an SMT game set in Feudal Japan. Plus that Krishna killing Christian Nips raises the question of how SMT demons shaped human history.
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>>149836793
>>149836805
Is there something wrong with DeSu2?

You would think that they would improve on game mechanics considering it's the successor.
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>>149833746
the cosplayer girl anon.. you did beat Yama right?
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>>149837205
It kinda does, but DeSu OC also brought over those core improvements.

The big problem here is that the gameplay of Devil Survivor is not that tight to begin with, and while 1 had a surprisingly good story, 2 is an Evangelion rip-off with shameless fanservice.
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>>149837205
The game mechanics have been improved, but the plot is okay. MC and Party have to fight EVA tier aliens from erasing the world and getting Polaris to grant their wish.
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>>149838553
Call them what they are anon.

Ancient alien angels and alien YHVH.
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I wonder how much all these dialogue choices matter in DeSu
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>>149645415
>>149645280
>tfw we may or may not get SMT5 on PS4
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>>149840398
In Desu1 not so much except for some of the ones involved in people dying or not, or talking to certain people to get their route available

In DeSu2 certain responses do add fate points
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>>149645280
P5 isn't even out yet, calm your jets
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>>149645280
>>149840764
Ronde port for Vita
Debichil game for NX
Debisama full remake for PS4
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>>149604685
>Artbook, soundtrack, manga, and other downloads
>http://pastebin.com/NqLRYf5n

Which artbook has art of the Raidou games?
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>>149841576
Go to the link next to 'Other' under Artbooks
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>>149752629
>tfw love Junpei and Majima

saved
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>>149645280
Strange Journey port for the n3ds
>>
Is there ANY SMT game where STR is just as viable as MAG? Or maybe even a better option?
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>>149844609
SMT1, SMT2, Devil Summoner 1, SMT3, SMT4
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>>149844854
>SMT4
STR is shit in IV though.
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>>149847457
>Charge + Desperate Hit + Dex, Agi, Luk
No, that shit breaks the game
Sure, antichthon is great, but it's best reserved for demons.
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Mudo.
>>
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>>149851172
This is forbidden.
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>>149851172
lewd
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>can't select hard difficulty until you've finished the game
>hasn't been a single challenging boss since Minotaur and I'm up to the second setting change
I'm glad this shit was like 20 bucks
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>>149847863
That's not STR though.
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>>149824681
i really need to finish this game. i havent touched it in like two years
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>>149634474
Sandman is the only one I know about.
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>>149820998
>>149833359
>>149834258
>retarded neuters
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>>149833284
Because the ones you are likely to come across are just middle class white boys who feel wronged.
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>>149844854
>SMT1, SMT2
>MAG being viable
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>>149855926
Pretty sure every build is viable in those games. I went full LUAG
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>>149855926
>Or maybe even a better option
>>
>you can permanently lose a level
what the fuck? who thought this was a good idea? is there really no way to reverse this? do I just have to grind again?
>>
ded franchise
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What configurations should I use to unfuck the text font in strange journey?
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>>149861994
I guess I just lost an hour of XP grinding?? i'm assuming i just have to escape demons that have this spell, but how am I suppose to know if they have it or not in the first place? it's just trial and error. what the fuck kind of game design is this
>>
>>149862341
I think I remember the fix. Been a while so no guarantees.
>Config
>3D Settings
>Renderer
>OpenGL 3.2
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>>149862341
>config
>3D settings
>enable text hack
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Do someone have a link for the Persona 1 music patch?
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So did I fuck up in Devil Survivor for cracking auto skills?

I've only got like 4 or 5, the starting ones, barrier and revive. And I am on day 6.

However all my main skills are for the most part, good, all the dynes, pierce, holy dance, plenty of boosts, nulls and resists etc. Can I still redeem my playthrough?
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>>149865809
*battle aura not barrier
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Beating the shit out of Asura with my bro Black Frost after his stupid chaos speech was great.
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>>149836418
DeSu2. Don't listen to memesters, DeSu1 is garbage.
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>>149867385
What game is that?
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>>149870452
Strange Journey.
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>>149870452
The fruit of Pisaca.
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>>149855926
Bitches don't know 'bout my furious dancing skillz and Kongokai
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>>149861613
There is no "maybe"
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What would you do if you got one of them in real life?
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>>149875040
Sell it overpriced on ebay to some nerd.
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>>149875040
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>>149875040
Summon a waifu.
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>>149865809
In my opinion most of the auto-skills cost too much MP to bother with them.
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>>149875040
Become an alchemist.
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>>149875040
Play MegaTen games on it.
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>>149875040
Talk to Burroughs
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>>149852793
Phys, whatever,

>>149855926
He asked if STR is as viable, or better.
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>>149875459
AMAMI CITY
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>>149865809

>For 80% of the game you're stuck with the two party members you get at the beginning of the game

Please tell me DeSu2 doesn't pull this shit, I'm actually so mad right now
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>>149882664
No, you get WAY too many party members in DeSu, so much that they ran out of ways to configure them and 45% of them are magic builds
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>>149882664
You make it seem like the game isn't doable with a party less than 4. DeSu 2 gives you too many units.
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>>149885964
It's completely doable but it's so fucking boring

I'd rather have too much than too little because variety is great
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>>149887474
It's not like the extra characters makes the battle more exciting. They are both balanced to their accustom settings.
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>>149890369
>It's not like the extra characters makes the battle more exciting

Yes, but flavour. Even if the gameplay between the two chars is the same, each character acts, looks, and speaks differently. From a gameplay perspective it doesn't make a difference, but again, flavour is nice.
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Hoy.
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>>149894165
hi
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>>149875040
>fuse doggo with demon
>use COMP to browse 4chan while I wait for the inevitable end of the world
The post-apocalyptic world can't be that much worse than the current one, anyway.
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>>149898576
>The post-apocalyptic world can't be that much worse than the current one, anyway.

I agree.

Can't be worse than our current world.
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>>149898576
>>149898672
no internet tho
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Best emulator for Strange Journey on PC? Or should I stick up with my phone?
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How do I beat Abaddon in DDS2 with Serph/Argilla/Gale? I'd use Serph/Roland/Cielo but they're only level 13 and it would take ages to get them to level 30ish.
The Ubelluris phase is fine but once he switches to Ganga mode I'm fucked.
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>>149705873
It's a good intro for SMTIVFinal
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>>149902105
Ganga mode is the one that abuses elemental weaknesses, right? I think how I got part that was to switch one of the members with Cielo, because he has no elemental weakness (generally one of your guys has been swallowed at this point as well), put up a fire shield to protect Serph and just try to survive until he changes phases. After he changed phases, I'd switch Cielo out and try to do some damage with Argilla.

By the way, make sure you get Mutual Karma for your inactive members and at least some useful mantras for Cielo, because the game will force some party-switching on you later on.
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>>149902105
Bring buffs. I think if you have a buff and some healing skills you can use angelic grace combo which heals you like mediarama and gives you rakukaja.
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>>149864467
Here you go: https://mega.nz/#!6khmERzS!72S43eBf7gk8a6aBWjptqcCrFghCWO0kWAmszs_w8tQ

This should really be put in the OP or pastebin next time
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Hoy.
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Morgana is a girl.
And also best girl.
And is for fucking. Bus form too.
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The wait for Apocalypse is killing me.
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The kill for Apocalypse is waiting me.
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The Apocalypse for waiting is killing me.
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>DeSu1
>Reach Day 5
>HERE ANON HAVE 50 MILLION CHARACTER EVENTS

HOLY SHIT WHAT DO I DO
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>>149914703
All 50 million character events.
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What are the least anime SMT games?
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>>149914703
I can't remember the details of day 5, but you should worry about Mari and Keisuke.

You can ignore almost all of Honda's stuff if you want.
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>>149914986
nes/snes games
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>>149914703
Ignore Yuzu, Honda, Midori and after you get him back Keisuke too.
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Hoy.
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>>149900958
desmume
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>>149920221
Thanks
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>Strange Journey OST is bad
you fucking plebs this shit is great too bad I'm playing it on a toaster so it's full of static noises
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>>149920215
Looks like he's wearing a speedo
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>>149922050
you dont know shit about figmas
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Agi.
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>>149920215
The lack of color and those joints make him look too much like Orpheus.

I also only found out that Orpheus is the basis for the word "orphan", holy shit everything makes sense now
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>>149923652
i can kinda see it

and i didnt know either
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Hoy.
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Are there any good MegaTen podcasts?
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SMT IV.
When I spawn a Fiend and die and respawn through Charon, can I save and reload from there on or will it refresh the Fiend?
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>>149933638
Cathedral of Shad-ahhahaaaha.
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>>149604685
what can i do about being mobbed by enemies in smt4? so tedious
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>>149939953
Give them Isabeau.
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>>149940576
but i want isabeau
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>tfw enjoying the hell out of this game since my 3ds got here
>tfw discover this animal leg double up combo
>fly across the battlefield destroying demons
Kaito and his paizuri didn't stand a chance
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>>149942137
>4 mb and it's side ways
That's the last time I post from my phone
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>>149940810
If you hog Isabeau all to yourself you can't act surprised when demons mob you.
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>Play DeSu2
>NEW ADDONS TRANSMITTED
>NEW ADDONS TRANSMITTED
>NEW ADDONS TRANSMITTED
>NEW ADDONS TRANSMITTED
>YOU HAVE RECIEVED A SPOTPASS
>YOU HAVE RECIEVED A SPOTPASS
>YOU HAVE RECIEVED A SPOTPASS
>YOU HAVE RECIEVED A SPOTPASS
STOP THIS FUCKING AAAAAAAAAAAAH
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>>149817509
Yes, his option is the best because Ronaldo fucking dies
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>>149942137
Kishin are fucking great. Kishin + Vile is also quite fun, because you become a repeating mortar.
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>>149944601
I was really happy in the Psyduck route when both idiots got what they deserved
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>>149944805
>doing Kaworu's route
kek I hope you enjoyed having earth deprived of all its technology in the name of freedumbs
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>>149945242
Nah don't worry bro God is my buttbuddy
Can't be worse than waterworld
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>>149945242
One of the best examples of plot-induced stupidity ever. You make your best buddy, literally, God and the thing you ask for is a world that erases everything the human race ever achieved. I mean, What the...?
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>>149948435
It aaaaalll retuuuuurns to nooooothiiiiiiiing
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>>149948435
humans are a proud species who need no administrator knowledge.
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Exscuse the shitpost, but what is the best 3DS SMT game?

I've only played P3/4 and i wanted try a real SMT game so i got IV but i found it incredibly bland and boring. I was thinking of trying Soul hackers or going to the devil survivor series instead because i like fire emblem.

I guess im asking if you think i should give Dungeon crawling another shot with Soul hackers or if i didn't like IV then i won't like that either and should just try DS?
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>>149951365
You could always try Strange Journey. It's a DS game, not 3DS.
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>>149951715
I tried it years ago and the entire first hour was dialog so i noped.
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>>149951787

Maybe RPGs aren't for you, anon.
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>>149951365
I don't see how this is a shitpost. In my opinion, IV is but if you want to give dungeon crawling another shot (it's shit in IV anyway) just pick up SJ. DeSu isn't really good as a SRPG, but it is fun and the routes are pretty good.

>>149951787
How the fuck did you play P3/P4 then?
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>doing SQQ in P1
>in the last tower
>MC is 10 levels higher than the rest of the party
>can't stop him spamming Megidola or I'll get rekt and have to go back to Tartarus to get everyone's Personas back

I hate this EXP system.
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>>149951996
well you can have rpg's with gameplay. Like EO or Persona.

You cant open your game with no gameplay and expect me to read an hours worth of shit when i haven't been given a reason to care yet.

I could go through all that and finally get to the gameplay and then not like it.
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>>149952117
You are in the tartarsauce in like 30 minutes, p4 had a slower start but they already had me because of p3.
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>>149952146
>You cant open your game with no gameplay and expect me to read an hours worth of shit when i haven't been given a reason to care yet.
Yeah you surely played P3/4 and m8
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>>149952236
>they already had me because of p3.

SMT has the same gameplay but better. Get to the actual gameplay or stop bitching.
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>>149952236
Maybe try Nocturne or DDS instead then. You're in combat pretty quickly in those games.
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>>149952134
>Not doing a maximum ambrosia run
you sealed your fate when you decided to go full casualry
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>>149952751
I've already done one though, this is my second playthrough of P1.

Honestly I don't even think its worth doing, I'm having a harder time on this tower now than I did when I did the max ambrosia run, because I don't have a bunch of godlike Personas with Megidolaon from grinding the casino.

Also Piercy just got OHKO'd and now I have to hoof it back down to get his purseowner, fuuuuck this shit.
I do love this difficulty though, I wish the SEBEC route was like this.
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>>149933795
anyone?
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>>149933638
/smtg/ narrated by Albert.
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>>149953191
From what I can remember from someone talking about getting the fiends, saving and reloading the game will refresh the spawn rate, which is to say that the fiend will disappear and you will have to spend more time finding the fiend.
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>>149939953
Recruit or fuse a common demon from that area, and then talk to the same kind of demon while in battle.
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Mazio
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>>149958686
Maragion
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>>149898576
>>149898672
Anti-neuter rising
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SMT x /smtg/
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SMT x Resident Evil
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SMT x Bible Black
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SMT x Saya no Uta
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SMT x SMT
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Mudo.
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>SMTV is at least several years away
>the other spin-offs are most likely dead

Do you think that DeSu won't get more games?
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I'LL END IT THUS
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>>149969967
my shitposts are a bit different
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>>149972075
Do Not Flatter Yourself.
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Pardon me!
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Hoy, wake up. It's morning.
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>>149948435
He doesn't stay God and becomes the planet. Canopus would have deleted him and everyone else otherwise.
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>>149948435
Your cell phone still exists bro. Watch Fumi get things ready for the next generations to quickly catch up with the old world.
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>>149978578
Nobody knows about Canopus in the Septentrione Arc (Saiduq himself tells you he wasn't aware of his existence in Triangulum), so you can't use that as an argument.

I was, mostly, complaining that no one thought of asking Saiduq to restore the world instead of making a new one in the orignal DeSu2. That was one thing RB fixed, at least. Well, that, and actually giving the Desu2-verse satisfying endings.
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Hoy.
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It's worth to finish Strange Journey again just because of the Extra Dungeon? Is it good?

I only finished the game in the neutral path, but now I got a good DS android emulator and I want to have some SMT fun again, until SMT Go isn't a thing.
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>>149604885
This is literally the premise for an SMT game.
I welcome our demon overlords.
I need demons to be real.
Fuck this world.
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>>149604885
Old interview from 2010

>Eiji Ishida: I'm sorry to say I can't disclose any information about our ongoing projects, but I'm personally interested in AR (augmented reality) technology. You go out, and when you see through a camera-or even your own eyes-there's a MegaTen demon on the street! I'd love to make a game like that. "I heard there's a huge demon named Beelzebub at an intersection in Shibuya! Let's go beat it!" "If we can get a hundred people together, we can summon Metatron! We'll meet tomorrow in front of Tokyo Big Sight!" Doesn't that sound exciting?
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>>149990870
I'd only play SMT GO desu
Pokemon GO is datamining on an Amami City level
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>>149990870

>>149665823
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Hoy.
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>>149995786
Yoh
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>>149944739
your stupid
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>>149951365
>I've only played P3/4

play pq
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what can i do to fix this demon? raidou 2 btw
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Hoy.
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Live dang you.
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>>150002817
I want to live.
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>>149999759
That means they're lost, so you have to go into enemy encounters until you meet your demon again in one.
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Hoy.
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>finally beat kudlak by getting him to 21 hp and 0 mp on the first turn
Thank fuck for drain
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>>150010549
Maha Psyhoy
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Bought a 3DS, what SMT game to play first?
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>>150011509
Isabeau's game.
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Does anyone have some of those Raidou ratio pictures?
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>>150014509
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>tfw no SMT game where you choose one mythology and help it beat the others
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>>150018087
>tfw no SMT game where you become YHVH's servant
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>>150018449
DeSuO
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>>150018087
>tfw there is no deicide route in Final
>you will team up with Buddha Pepe, gangster poo in loo, and Odin
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>>150020242
>no Egyptian gods in the Polytheists

kill me
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>>150005675
>>150005675
ty friendo
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>>150014509
>>150015752
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hol up

so if i want to get the White ending, that means i have to play through the whole game again?
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>>150024917
Ye
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I'm doing my first run in Strange Journey. Just got to the second dungeon and found the sisters that want me to kill their mother. I haven't tried to beat her yet, what's the recommended level? They make it sound like it will be a tough battle.
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>>150026127
You mean Yggdrasil/something similar? Just go with it
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>>150024917
You could also have a save before the Kenji battle.
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Hoy.
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Hee ho! Jack Frost the fairy is here.
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what do the green things mean? why cant i use mabufu?
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>>150026127
Do it.
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>>150031928
>you will never go to school with hee-ho-kun
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How do I stop praising YHVH?

Ever since I started SMT I have been going law every game.
Why? How do I stop it?
Is there a cure?
Is neutral the right option?
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>>150031976
This is actually covered if you bothered to speak to Victor. The green magatama next to the skills signify what skills the demon currently has equipped. To change the equipped skills, go to: Menu>Abilities>Settings. Select the demon you want, then press X on the skill you want to "de-equip" from your demon's skill list (green magatama should disappear), then press X on the skill you want equipped to your demon (green magatama should appear next to skill name). When done, simply close out of the menu. Remember to do this everytime you fuse, as the skills chosen to be equipped are random and may not be what you want you demon to have.
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>>150032938
The only games I went Law in my first playthrough were SMT II and SJ. Why do people even bother going for Law/Chaos in I anyway.
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>>150032938
You believe in Law.

What exactly do you have a problem with it?
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>>150032938
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>>150033073
thank you friendo
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>>150033136
The reason I went law in 1 was because I believed in Yuji even if he became manipulated by God and became a false messiah.

I think the law ending in SJ is the worst.
It felt like Zelenin just wanted power that Mastema could not give her.
Making her more of a Dark-Law authoritative figure.
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>>150033613
Mechanics in the game are explained if you talk to the NPC's. Did you play Raidou 1 first? If you didn't, drop that game and play 1 before you continue 2.
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Hoy.
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>>150034204
i'm just stupid
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>>150039789
So are most of the demons you encounter. I would say the NPC's that'll help you get accustomed to the game are Victor, the Yatagarasu's Messenger, and all the NPC's in Shin-Sekai. Talking around town provides funny, informative, or average (reflecting what is happening) conversations. Talking to NPC's also tend to give you Case Files, which are quests you can complete at any time. Every time a new chapter starts, speak to the owner of Shin-Sekai to get a bunch at once, if you're too lazy to speak to people yet want to get quests. Demons also hand out quests, so be on the lookout for those. Complete the Training Hall at Shinoda before you reach the point of no return/final boss. Make sure you have at least 2 demons that Null Death on you at all times and have a decent skillset with at least one having a heal skill. Sorry if I sound patronizing or wrote out a block of text for no reason. Also need a reason to dump face crops.
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If I tell kaido the location of the comp factory will it steer me towards a neutral ending or something? going chaos
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>>150044041
Nah the Chaos prerequisite is unlocked on its own, its pretty obvious when it comes.
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>>150044286
I'm assuming it'll happen when I talk to naoya tonight
on the 6th day currently
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>>150039517
>DEJA VU
>I'VE JUST BEEN IN THIS PLACE BEFORE
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>>149933795
Yes, you can do that. The Fiend will still be there after you lose. It will only disappear if you get the message to face it and choose to not face it.
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>>150046171
I can't tell if this is true or not but I'll trust you. I've gotten Black Rider, White Rider, Matador, and Red Rider, and about to nab Trumpeter.
>>
In SMT IV, is it possible to get a fusion accident with a special fusion?
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>just got atsuro killed at the end of a long mission
fuck
if i recarm him can I still get that title for ng+ the pastebin mentions or do i have to restart the mission
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>>150048607
That's only for DeSu 2 m8
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>>150049219
the pastebin says it's also for Overclocked
so does the wiki
http://megamitensei.wikia.com/wiki/List_of_Devil_Survivor_Overclocked_Titles
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>>150049343
Nevermind I never played OC and yes you fucked up you need to restart the fight now.
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>>150049584
rip, thanks for the heads up
guess I'll take a short break and reload when I come back
I wonder how many runs this game will hold my attention for. Currently 22 hours in and I'm absolutely loving the atmosphere/story/characters and I hear it has a lot of replay ability with the different routes. Not sure which of the ng+ bonuses I should go for or what route I'll do next.
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So what am I in for?
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>>150052408
Fags
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>>150052408
The greatest SMT anime ever made.
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>>150054257
>>150054520
Both are correct and one necessitates the other.
>>
gnight fags
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>>150057249
Thanks for saving the general, senpai.

Don't let demons posses you in your sleep.
>>
Am I wrong to focus on a Dex/Agi build and some luck with Flynn?
Should I buff my Magic? I only put a few points into it.
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>>150054257
>>150054520
Just finished it.
I don't fucking know what I just watched.
If this is the best SMT anime ever I think I'll pass on all the others
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>>150057757
Dex/Luck is better than Dex/Agility. You'll want some Agility though.

Only put points into magic if you intend to be a mage.
>>
Hey /smtg/, how would you summarize the mainline SMT series
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>>150057819
You are not yet awake to its greatness my child
You made sure to watch the dub, right?
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>>150057757
just do whatever and once you're at kasumigaseki shelter 3 just grind incense from Red Rider simple really
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>>150057986
God is a whiny bitch and pascal was there.
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>>150058076
Except when Pascal wasn't there.
Try not to feel too bad.
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>>150049584
I wonder if midori/keisuke count or if it's just the three amigos
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>>150057819
It is the best one because it's the only SMT anime :^)
The other ones are based on MT, DeSu and Persona.

But as that other anon said, you still don't have what it takes to appreciate such a work of art.
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>mfw /smtg/ will crack within my lifetime
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>>150059419
not if you die in accident soon
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Why do the demons always ask for lifestones
But give one back
I thought this was a Nocturne only thing.
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>>150059745
Some demons are the playful type, so they'll return them cause they wanna play, or something.
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So what's the difference between going to Kaido or naoya at the end of the 6th day? Naoya is chaos and kaido is a different flavor?
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I just got the last ending I was missing in SMT IV (neutral). I can't wait to get Apocalypse next month.

Also, the neutral ending was such a good feels ending. I loved playing that game.
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Just now I was playing Devil Survivor 2 and for some reason my autistic indian roomate started to breakdance, and he accidentally broke my N3DS.

I'm so fucking angry right now, /smtg/.
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>>150061073
stop
posting
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>>150061073
is his name sankarsh?
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>>150061073
POO
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>>150061073
Dude
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ByFqK8BcB-0

NEVER
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>>150061073
Does he use Windows 10 or OS X?
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>>150060826
I also enjoyed going on a campaign to bring back hope to Tokyo. Doing all the Nozomi quests, as well as the fairy and norse gods shenanigans was pretty fun. Although reincarnating the true goddess felt pretty underwhelming.

I'm pretty hyped for Final as well.
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Anyone here knowledgeable about Persona Q?

I'd like to know if there is any game play reason to re do the Timed Requests in NG+, are they required to unlock the Ultimate bosses?

Also do Attack buffs like Heat Riser and Tarukaja stack with each other or themselves? Basically can I stack my Atk up tons and lower the enemies defense to do almost 1 hit kills like in Nocturne?
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>>150062453
I haven't finished my NG+ run, but I don't see why you shouldn't do every request.
But if I recall correctly, you get to fight Margaret and Elizabeth with their full power if you make it to the end; but I may be wrong.

And all the buffs/debuffs do stack with everything. Just check your buff/debuff status screen and you'll notice that they're all taking effect, and they even have different durations.
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>>150062836
>I don't see why you shouldn't do every request.
Because I've done them all already. The rewards and experience are also not worth the effort, unless of course they're required.

>Margaret and Elizabeth with their full power
Thought it was all three siblings after you beat the Clockwork God.

>And all the buffs/debuffs do stack with everything.
That's good to know, thanks man.
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>>150063157
>Thought it was all three siblings after you beat the Clockwork God.
Oh yeah, it's that. Now I'm sure.

And have fun stacking buffs like crazy, I'm surprised you didn't abuse Yu's unique buff along with some of the other party member's buffs.

That strategy helped me a lot in the final boss to let my Chie become invincible, which in exchange let her constantly cast the party-wide crit rising buff.
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>>150063597
The final boss wasn't really hard and I always forget about buffs. Now that everything is really easy while I make my way back to the end, I figure I'd see just how much I can overkill the bosses.

Didn't use buffs for anything but Matador and the last Tower of Nocturne either.
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>>150063868
>playing megaten games
>not using buffs
I know it's stupid, but I feel really triggered right now.
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>>150063868
>being a masochist
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>>149604685
where can i get imagine/nocturne/dds/raidou1&2 demons 3d models? do i need to rip them myself?
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>>150064098
It's built into my brain to put buffs into the back of my head, I've played so many RPG's that had useless buffs now I can't ever remember to use them.

I've managed to remember Status Effects though, so it was still pretty easy.

>Megaten game.
Thought you guys hate putting Persona 3/4 related stuff in with SMT.

>>150064179
You didn't need buffs for anything but Matador and the final few bosses though.

Gotta go though guys, I'll be back in a few hours though.
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>>150064475
I would say "yes" to ripping them yourself.
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>>150064489
I asume you didn't play in the hardest difficulty, right?

>Thought you guys hate putting Persona 3/4 related stuff in with SMT.
Some do, some don't. And for me Persona still fits into the megaten series.

The only thing that really annoys everyone in general are the waifufags who are only into Persona for the self-insert and dating sim elements. But you can still have civil discussions about those games as long as you don't bring up the topic like a shitposting faggot.
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>>150065371
>I asume you didn't play in the hardest difficulty, right?
True, I only played Nocturne on normal. Gotta give you that.

Personally I just consider them all the same series, it's easier than splitting hairs.
Wish I could skip all the school stuff and social link stuff in P3, I might actually replay it if I could.

It's taking everyone else ages to get ready, so I'm still here for a few more minutes.
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Time for us to create a new world.
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New bread
>>150066069
>>150066069
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>>150065669
They all belong in the megaten family, but almost each series has some unique style, gameplay and features that differentiate them. So it might be useful to know which is which so you can pick up the games that catter to your tastes.
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