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/smtg/ - 真・女神転生/Shin Megami Tensei General

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>SMTIV Final/SMTIV Apocalypse information
http://pastebin.com/Xmjsuv0D

Don't Participate in the new /smtg/ sings:
http://collabedit.com/uvwta
http://pastebin.com/dKLqugTC

>MTII translation project
http://www.dmanufacture.com/t-dds2.php

>Starter guide
http://i.imgur.com/zJcYpuE.png

>Tips and tricks
http://pastebin.com/bd3Bgfj8

>Artbook, soundtrack, manga, and other downloads
http://pastebin.com/NqLRYf5n

>New OST links
http://pastebin.com/kLbYxjFU

>Misc. translations
http://pastebin.com/kmMsiz1d

>Booru
http://smtg.booru.org/

>Recommended reading
http://pastebin.com/YppqPPjf

>SMT If... Tips & Tricks:
http://pastebin.com/KiwVr9Vy

>Previous thread
>>149604685
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This album is pure perfection.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PxzuFKhJcDU

I find it weird how they managed to pull out this one and the symphonic rearrangement of SMT II, yet they dropped the ball so badly with everything else.
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Hoy.
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I really want to know why Atlus don't promote Demi-Fiend more. He's probably the most popular protag in Megaten outside of P3 and P4 dudes.
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>>150070619
How and why would they? Nocturne is 13 years old, anon.
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Strange Journey 3DS when?
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>>150072480
They'd ruin it with voice acting and Doi. They just need to improve the artwork/sound quality.
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Why do some of the games tease you with battling YHWH then cop out at the last minute?

Nocturne, Devil Survivior Overclocked and SMT IV all have you at the point where you are going to fight him but you don't actually do so. I'm well aware this isn't the case in many of the other games but why do they even bring it up if we're not going to get to see it?
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>>150066069
if issachar were the protag of smt4, what ending do you think he'd get?
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>>150074226
The getting killed by Flynn ending.
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>White ending doesn't erase your save file

Wasted opportunity desu
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>>150075102
Nier style? That would've been cool as long as they made it very clear that you're gonna lose everything because fuck replaying the entire game again.
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Anons, I've beaten Nocturne on Normal twice but never went Hard. Is it worth playing?
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>>150078421
Yes. You'll fear for your very life.
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Too slow today, /smtg/.
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>>150081847
>today
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>>150074226
White.
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Die for Me!
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>music restarts after every battle

y did they do this
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Hoy.
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Bow wow
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>>150081847
PLEASE LET ME SLEEP
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>>150089180
Wake up fag
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Hoy.
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whats up with uniques being nude all the time
what have they got to prove?
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>>150075102
Spoilers for Apocalypse canon DLC.

They didn't succeed.
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Hoy.
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Fiend hunting in SMT IV. Trying Chemtrails now. Can I reload from the Clipped Wings dlc? Will it refresh the area?
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Hoy.
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Recarm!
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Does anyone have Isabeau tralalalalaing as an mp3 or vid ?
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>>150072727

YHVH wasn't even in IV.
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What would happen if I started to act and dress like Bunny in real life?

And would I get to fuck big titty bitches this way?
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How annoying is he?
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>>150107813
You mean like an autist? You probably don't need to act at all then.
Maybe.
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>>150107923
I want to fuck that.
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>>150066069
Shin Megami Tensei is my only hope for video games!
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>>150110760
Agreed, Yamai is cute.
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>>150107923
Very. One of the major reasons why you shouldn't go Power of Friendship, if you don't want to completely ruin the atmosphere in the final dungeon.
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>>150106515
Is it a voice from the game? Check the pastebins for the IV voice rips.
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>>150107923
He kinda ruins any seriousness the game might have had. It's hard to take anything seriously when you have a cartoon ghost making over-the-top facial expressions all the time.
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>>150112916

Do you kill him?
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>>150113498
On the Anarchy route, yeah. But you have to tolerate his existence for 95% of the game.
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AMAMI CITY
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>>150113724

Fucking hell. I was hesitant about Anarchy but slaughtering him makes it worth it.
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>>150114459
Anarchy feels more satisfying compared to Peace, it seems.
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>>150114578

So it isn't as edgy as it sounds, then? Or are both endings bad?
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>>150114192
SUMARU CITY
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>>150111232
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NA8_vMOqOEs
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>>150114974
Is a fully lovecraft integrated city
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>In art, Set is usually depicted as an enigmatic creature referred to by Egyptologists as the Set animal, a beast resembling no known creature, although it could be seen as a composite of an aardvark, a donkey, a jackal or a fennec fox. The animal has a curved snout, long rectangular ears, a thin forked tail and canine body, with sprouted fur tufts in an inverted arrow shape; sometimes, Set is depicted as a human with the distinctive head. Some early Egyptologists proposed that it was a stylised representation of the giraffe, owing to the large flat-topped "horns" which correspond to a giraffe's ossicones. The Egyptians themselves, however, made a distinction between the giraffe and the Set animal. During the Late Period, Set is depicted as a donkey or as having a donkey's head.
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>>150115331
I don't know how to feel.
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>>150115672
Feel love and comfort over the cheesy j-rock ballad.
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>>150114953
It is edgy but the tonal shift isn't as extreme as in peace route.
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>>150114953
>So it isn't as edgy as it sounds, then?


Either you go full edge with somewhat reasonable ideals or you do the hypocritical Persona ending.
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>>150116735
>Either you go full edge with somewhat reasonable ideals

And according to some Anon, Nozomi calls you a hypocrite for going down this path.
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>>150116889
>Nozomi seems like a grade A waifu
>but hate Navarre enough and the power of friendship

conflicted
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Why are there no Egyptian gods in the Polytheistic Alliance?
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>>150117267
you can bring back Nozomi as your megami in the Anarchy path

>>150117408
It's a bit odd, Osiris can be revived in a challenge quest in IV, right?
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>>150116889
That's because the game has shitty roleplay mechanics. You can treat your companions like shit, deliberately let them get hit in boss fights, say that if they were in danger you wouln't help them, openly state that you agree with Dagdas ideal, and they will STILL treat you like you are their best friend and will be utterly shocked when you betrayed them.
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>>150117660

There's a pair of really fucking bullshit challenge quests in IV where you have to find Osiris' casket and his scattered body parts to return him to life, but then you get Isis, Osiris, and Set as special fusions. I really liked them because I'm a shameless Egyptaboo though.
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>>150117801
Funny, those edgy responses should be a dead giveaway to them.

Oh well, i am going to enjoy betraying those peace loving morons.

>>150117846
I wonder, was Osiris ever power hungry?

If so, it'll make sense for him to join the Polytheist Alliance.
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>>150118498

He wasn't power hungry because he was already king. The whole Egyptian pantheon is very much about Law; their central thing was Maat, or living an orderly life.

Set coveted the throne and was the god of the wilderness and foreigners. He's the only likely Chaos god in Egypt outside of Isfet, the personification of chaos; even the heart-eating monster Ammut and the ravenous crocodile god Sobek still fit within the wider whole of Maat.
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>>150116889
She's a woman after all.
If you don't cave in to what they want, they'll call you an hypocrite.
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>>150094065
If you were a deity you would be naked too.
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>>150120886
Or slit their own throats
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>>150121174
Silly anon, I was talking about human females, not monkeys.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tETYKtOKk04&list=PLDABB8FBE123392F0&index=21
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>>150124776
I really hated that faggot manikin.

I hope that Chiaki got to him.
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Behold my Hoy
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yoH
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Hoy
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Hoy.
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>>150128571
>>150131163
>>150131169
>>150133557
So much Unclean Filth in this thread, where are our Blessed Warriors of Light?
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Anyone got a screenshot of Lucifer saying Oh God, why do you continue to make us suffer in SMTIV?

I've been looking on youtube for a video going through Purgatorium on the Chaos path, no such luck.
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>>150134171
Why are you searching for it?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xJ-7wXXByVw&index=52&list=PLDABB8FBE123392F0
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>>150134896
For reaction/shitposting purposes.

I've found a video, but the bastard tried to skip the dialogue, i had to time my pauses right.
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>>150136247
>>150136482
>>150136751
It's perfect.
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>>150136751
kek
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Is there any reason why some people are able to turn into powerful demons such as Metatron and Beelzebub in Digital Devil Saga while other people turn into shit tier demons like Ghoul and Empusa?
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>tfw none of the Egyptian demins are very good

I wish Light/Dark shit worked on bosses. Is there a list of demons confirmed for Final/Apocalypse? I wanna see if Anubis is still in.
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>>150137962
You see they're summoning their True WIll which is different from person to person. Demons of legend all represent archetypes that dwell in the collective subconscious. Transforming into a demon inhibits your conscious control and exposes your 本音, however if you let the demon take over you will lose your humanity, which is why you need to hide behind your Persona to form Social Links.

Trust me I'm an expert.
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Hoy.
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>>150140687
Anon, I...
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SMT NINE remaster for Xbox One: Let's actually make it an MMO Edition.
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So everybody knows here that Neutral isn't a real alignment and is basically just procrastination pretending to be a philosophy, right?
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>>150141547
It's either a path of balance, or HUMANITY, FUCK YEAH.

That's what it pretty much boils down to.
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Why does Walter say "hoy"? Is he a flip or something?
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>>150141547
There's literally nothing wrong with the neutral alignment.
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I WILL become a SAM-u-rai!
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>>150141829

It isn't Law?
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>>150142037
>bowing before a lazy imperfect being
>not becoming a master of your own fate
lawfags are the worst
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>>150142158
Neutralfags are the worst.
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>>150141829
>>150142158
>>150142273

Can't we bond over hating Chaosfag?
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>>150141980
I believe in you.
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>>150138752
Are you feeling well?
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>>150142673
I'm feeling well. Are you well?
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>>150142776
I'm not a well.
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If a well is in disrepair can you call it unwell?
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>>150142849
Why are you unwell?
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>>150142912
What is a well?
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>>150143008
Well, a well that wells is a well well.
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What's the most FUN build for smtiv?
first time playing
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>>150143407
Put all points in luck and kill god.
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>>150143632
With some agility as well.
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>>150143339
You've lost me.
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>>150143407

Going full MAG makes the game hilariously easy because every enemy has elemental weaknesses.

If not go DEX and have fun with it. Every build needs a little AG and Luck. Don't touch STR at all.
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>>150143772
What about dex for guns?
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>>150141739
It's a casualry thing.
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>>150143786
I've got you covered.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iPJD3pDRkow
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>>150144079
I see.
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>>150143930
Hope says it too.
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Hoy.
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>>150147715
Thanks doc.
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>>150142273
Lawfag with no original opinion. What a shock.

>>150117801
Both endings seem lame.
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>>150148179
Funny, i'm a Chaosfag.
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>>150148179
The problem is that the narrative only supports good guy Nanashi and the Power of Friendship route. Picking the edgelord dialogue options isn't acknowledged by the game at all. Anarchy feels more like some What-if evil route and not a proper conclusion to the game, since it's so strongly biased against it.
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Mahama
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>>150150348

That's distressing.
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>>150117408
Seth is a Polytheist.

As expected of Dark-Law.
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>>150145129
Hope came from the casualries, didn't he?
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>>150107283
His avatars Sanat, Demiurge, and Ancient of DAYS are.
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Is DeSu 2 worth playing?
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>>150153190
Yes. His waifu who he could never marry is still one.
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>>150154095
His waifu is dead though.
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>>150154031
I think I will also pick it up just for the sake of being an easy pick up and play RPG, and because it seems to have a pretty catchy OST.
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>>150154031
Yes.

>>150154154
That is also true.

Then Nanashi murders him in Apoc.
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>>150154031
All MegaTens are worth playing.
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SMT Super Gem Fighter Mini Mix when?
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>>150154546
This senpai.
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>>150159252
Who's this edgelord homofag
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>>150159252
The P3 MC didn't age well.
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>>150160203
Best Megaten.
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>>150160334
>Best Megaten.
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>>150160425
Yes, best.
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>>150160568
looks like a gaylord desu
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>>150160802
You're confused, he's not a FF character.
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>>150160896
That's incredibly gay
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>>150160998
>gay
Like I said, he's not a Final Fantasy character.
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>>150161241
You're right, he's a fire emblem character and therefore an irreparable homosexual
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>>150161489
...
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>>150161732
Don't worry, it's okay to be a homosexual, faggot
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Would anyone have a clear save of DDS1 US on the PS3? Or where I might be able to find one?
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>>150161935
(You)
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>>150162187
Are a queermosexual.
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>>150162443
I don't doubt you are.
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>>150159252
>>150160334
>>150160568
>>150160896
>>150162654
You have your containment zone
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>>150162761
You can't contain Megaten.
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>>150162845
No surprise that the #FE faggots would try to ruin this general
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>>150162761
>containment
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>>150163031
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>>150163154
Don't make me post the metacritic scores.
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>>150163847
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/smtg/, don't be so easily baited (unless you actually enjoy shitposting).

By humoring shitposts you all guys shitpost yourselves.
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>>150163993
>he doesn't know
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>>150164089
This. TMS is a good Megaten game.

Don't fall for "le gay" bait.
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>>150164115
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>>150164089
This. TMS isn't a good Megaten game.
Don't fall for "le good" bait.
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>>150164240
See right here, this is a classic shitpost, so don't take the bait and appreciate it as the spark in post count it dreams to be
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>>150164264
>>150164340
Samefag harder.

>>150164364
>this is a classic shitpost
Explain.
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/tmsg/ please go, you're even deader than we are you fags
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>>150164432
>samefag harder
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>>150164432
ayy
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>>150164529
This. Shin Megami Tensei is a PlayStation series, now that the exclusivty deal is over we will never have to deal with you guys again.
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>>150164856
That's a hot meme you got there kiddo
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>>150164920
Fuck of TMSfag.
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>>150164959
[Null Shitpost]
He's really getting desperate
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>>150165042
>TMSfag is pretending to be Hoy
Ok.

>>>/tmsg/
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>>150165086
I am but a simple warhoyer, defending my land from #FE faggots

Test me not, lest you end up in a world of hoygret
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>>150165198
So you're looking forward to when SMT returns to PlayStation then?
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>>150165296
No, I'm waiting for Devil Summoner 3 for the Sega Saturn.
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>>150165363
>SMT V with the P5 engine
Who else is ready?
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>>150165406
I'd rather get a new series, but it's hard to expect nice things from ATLUS as it is nowadays.
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>>150165567
Persona 5 proves that not all of Atlus has gone casual (ie the DS/3DS games)
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>>150165672
It's always nice to meet a time traveler, but you'll have to give some reliable source to back up your claims.
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>SMT has not had a real installment for twelve years
Feels bad man.
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>>150166276
>SMT IV
>SJ
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>>150166621
>Spin-off games
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>>150166693
>Titled Shin Megami Tensei IV
>Spin-off game
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>>150168709
>We will never get her game
>We will never get more fanart of her
Feels bad man.
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>>150169545
At least she has TWO doujins, TWO.

That's more than what many other girls of the franchise could ever wish for.
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>>150169759
Link?
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http://www.nintendo-difference.com/news35065-shin-megami-tensei-iv--apocalypse-et-7th-dragon-iii-sortiront-bien-en-boite-en-europe.htm

Still no Official release date
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>>150170415
>Still no Official release date
Wow, that's really shitt-

Wait, it's just for Europe. Hahaha.
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hoy
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>>150169759
You can't just drop ICBMs on us and not tell us if there's scans or tags.
>two
>human female in SMT
Huh.
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>>150174070
She's the OG waifu from the series.

I'm also disappointed that you guys haven't already desperately searched for every single doujin you could find, so I'll go to sleep and maybe I'll link you up tomorrow morning.
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Hoy.
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Any news about that smt x fire emblem game?
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>>150111547
Thanks, I found it!
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Does anyone have the nocturne played expected got pic?
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>>150179001
I don't have it.
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>>150179380
thanks friend
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>>150179393
I can post hunger if you want.
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>>150179472
sure
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>>150179539
Actually I don't have that one either.
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>>150179607
you have failed me
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>>150165406
wwwwwww
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>No TDE equivalent for SMT4 so I have to bother with making choices
>think Jonathan is a huge faggot and try to disagree with him regularly
>still get the Law route
Set me free from this hell
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>>150181501
Just go white.
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>>150181671
I don't want that jobber Kenji to be the last boss
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>>150181737
Lucifer is piss easy too.
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>>150181945
The whole game is but I was hoping at some point it wouldn't be
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>There was an error during the fusion
FUCK YOUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU
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>>150183663
>he doesn't save before doing fusions
You deserve it
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>>150185397
>save scumming
But that's forbidden!
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>>150182063
If you want a challenge, go to face Beelzebub after the route lock (it's from the 2nd part of a challenge taking place in new underground district in the southwest of the map that only open after the route lock). Red Knight -> Beelzebub. Also go after Azazel's and afterwards Mastema's quests if you end up really going law, although they aren't nearly as strong.
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>>150185497
Then don't bitch if something goes wrong during fusions. Saving before fusions is something that's been recommended forever.
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>>150166693
Nocturne is basically a spin off anyway. There was no reason to make it part of the actual SMT series at all. It should have been its own sub-series. That way we wouldn't get all this whining to turn SMT back into Nocturne again either.
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>>150185992
TDE isn't canon, so I agree
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I want to punch Isabeau right in her monkey face.
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>>150186856
with your dick?
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>>150187556
No, with my fist.
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>>150187583
o-oh
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>>150187946
Yeah.
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>>150188005
Careful anon, she might throw shit at you in retaliation.
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>>150163006
>try
We already ruined it, dipshit.
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>>150165406
>with the P5 engine
Do you eat shit?
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>>150191256
Get back to working on Scalebound Kamiya.
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>>150191167
Don't you have a corpse to be propping up?
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I think I just wasted 40 dollars on smtiv
>uses the retarded persona "hit them before they hit you to initiate a battle XD"
Wasn't that big of a problem with persona because the depth perception in those games weren't fucked and even if I messed up and the enemy got the first turn they didn't one shot me from full hp
Seriously who thought this mechanic is fun
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>>150194734
>Seriously who thought this mechanic is fun
You're gonna ask yourself this a lot if you keep playing the game. IV is a mess.
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>>150194734
>he bought it
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Things you can say to convince a demon to be yours, but not your girlfriend.
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>>150196391
>I'll give you a Life Stone
>Dig
>Demons are superior
>Me eat you whole
The last one might work for both depending on you though.
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>>150194734
>40 dollars on smtiv

where do you live that it still costs 40
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>>>/v/346708718
I didn't know that the demon negotiations of SMT were actually so accurate with real life.
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>>150198292
oh nevermind it was 25 on amazon brand new
still a waste
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>>150137962
I think the people that turn into demons like Metatron are actually channeling them and end up being taken over them. Doesn't seem like a good fate.

Anyway only like one person in a million can probably turn into a high level demon. Most just turn into crap.
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>>150198647
What if you just insult her or bully her?
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So late news, but anyone psyched for the Mementos Dungeons in P5? Random generation is not my piece of cake, even if it's optional, but I absolutely love the idea of fighting people Shadows as side missions. You expand on a characters personality, their background, provide poetic symbolism, AND fight a boss/miniboss, all at the same time!

>>150198647
Red Cloak is the same way. Fucking demons.
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>>150199087
25 is an easier loss than 40
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>>150200461
what makes you think that?
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Is there a translation of everything Gouto says in Nocturne Chronicles Edition to be found anywhere? From the first encounter outside the mantra HQ, to the stuff in the Labyrinth, as well as his post-credits stuff?

I'm not expecting anything mind-blowing but I'm curious about what's different from Dante or maybe why he and Raidou decided to help Demi-Fiend wreck everything.
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>>150200204
You're basically giving her a no, so she cuts your up.

Of course, unless you are a handsome alpha demon summoner, in which case you can fight back and kill her.
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>>150201178
I found the post-credits on gamefaqs:

"Essentially, Gotou is typing (with a typewriter -- he makes a comment about how hard it is for cats to write). They actually returned to their world, after Lucifer ("the first party") vanished. Writes Gotou, "his whereabouts are unknown, but he is certainly still plotting something". As for the Demi-Fiend, "he seems invincible, so we should find a way to keep him in check". For the Vortex World, "it resembles a ruined version of the Capital"."
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>>150201802
Yeah, I did see that too but wondered if it's complete.

I guess that's all I get though.
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>>150201802
>he seems invincible, so we should find a way to keep him in check
Dang.
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why is nocturne da bes
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>>150202558
I mean... if you play it right, at the end of Nocturne, Raidou has absolutely no way of damaging Demi-Fiend.
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>>150200387
Yeah, since P5's bosses all seem to have unique designs I'm hoping Mementos is where a lot of the "big" demons will show up who wouldn't just cut it as regular encounter enemies.
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is nocturne worth playing?
I only ever played the handhelds but I assume you can emulate it for ps2
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>>150204236
Yes.
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>>150201802
>so we should find a way to keep him in check". For the Vortex World, "it resembles a ruined version of the Capital"."
Damn, the lore is off the charts!
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>>150204519
well alright then emuparadise giveth
anything i should know that's not in the pastebin?
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>>150206107
Pixie is best girl.
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>>150206227
that's cute
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>>150206407
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>>150206227
That's not how you spell Chiaki.
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>>150207074
Chiaki is fine too.
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Hoy.
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I wish SMT had more fanart!
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>>150209680
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Hey /smtg/

Just finished Persona 1 and found out i'll have to redo half the game because i chose the wrong answers during the magical forest section hours ago and got the bad ending.

Fuck me right?
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>>150210917
I would
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>>150210917
I would too.
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>>150210917
I got the bad ending too. I would never replay a game only because I chose answers that the game considers wrong.
If you did like the game that much that you don't mind replaying it right away, do it.
If you're like me, you're satisfied with the ending you got for your opinions and get on with the franchise, replaying it another time.
Fucking shithead.
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>>150210983
>>150211065
Ok.

So, should I just look up the ending on youtube?
I hear theres some snow queen quest I missed also.

I just want to play every cannon persona game before 5 is out.
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>>150211242
life is painful and then you die. look it up or don't who cares just do what you want
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Where the fuck is Pascal.
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>>150212736
In your house with your loving mother silly
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>>150212736
Pascal is a dog. Just call him and he'll come.


Here, boy! Come, Pascal!
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>>150213056
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>>150213056
>>150213015
He's not here.
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>>150213182
>>150213118
He's right there anon.
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>>150213118
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NLcXXz01Tn8
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>>150206107
>pastebin tells me to invest in 4 out of 5 of the stats
fug that's not helpful
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>>150214691
Just go STR/VIT/AGI. Don't ever touch MAG and level up Luck at the very end of the game when you have nothing else to put points into.
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>>150214691
Make sure not to overlevel STR because your magatama gives a lot and there's a cap.
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>>150214876
well that makes it a lot simpler, thanks
guess I'll just do an even distribution between those 3
pastebin says MAG is important for magic defense
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>>150215118
>MAG is important for magic defense
I hear that a lot but I did a MAG build once and I didn't notice a huge difference. DDS is the only game where I've felt MAG improves your magic defense significantly because my phys Serph would get destroyed by a simple magic spell.
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>>150215420
that reminds me I never finished the 2nd game of DDS
played too much of the first one in 1 sitting that by the time I beat it I wasn't too enthusiastic about playing part 2
iirc nothing even transfers over with a clear save file so that bummed me out too
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>>150209680
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>>150215981
It had much better dungeons than the first one iirc, i liked it better.
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>>150215981
>iirc nothing even transfers over with a clear save file so that bummed me out too
That's not true, having a DDS1 clear save file unlocks Hard mode right away, allows you to unlock the super awesome secret character depending on your choices and gives you a small macca/stat bost if you were rich/had lots of mantras

I actually did the same as you, got super tired after beating 1 and only started 2 like a year later, and I think the second one is a much better game, worth playing for the total wild ride of a story alone, even though it feels kinda rushed near the end.
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I think I'm stuck in KMT II. I'm assuming the next boss is Balaam, but whenever I go to where he is it just says Nakajima starts worshiping him and then he leaves. Is Balaam not a boss?
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>>150217659
You're too stupid to fight him. No, really.

Nakajima is not in MT 2, by the way.
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>>150218519
I have to level up my INT?? I was only focusing on VIT and STR so I guess that makes sense
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>>150219374
Smoke incense.
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>>150219374
Yup. You need 7 Int. There is a girl in the building that tells you that, if I'm not mistaken. Int is obviously not as important as Str/Vit/Spd for the most part but having 20 and 25 Int will allow you to use the best sword and armor in the game, respectively, so you might wanna consider increasing it at some point.
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>>150217312
my autism won't let me just jump into the 2nd one without replaying the first unfortunately
I'll probably go for it at some point in the near future
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>>150219762
The girl said to add up both sides of a dice to defeat him. When I read that, I just assumed it was for some kind of puzzle later. I didn't know that your stats could affect the actual story though, that's pretty cool. thanks for the help
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>>150222079
>I didn't know that your stats could affect the actual story though, that's pretty cool.
It's almost like an RPG.
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I said several times that I found DDS easy but I changed my mind. Cerberus just kicked my ass after I defeated one of its heads. I hope I can get out of the dungeon once I'm done with this boss.
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When will we get a crossover with Resident Evil?

Having a guest character would also be acceptable.
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>>150223109
I think that one dungeon is the part where the game's difficulty spikes.

You should also begin to look forward to having a very well balanced and prepared main party, so later bosses don't kick your ass and force you to grind for Mantras.
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Is SMT IV really that bad of game? I'm doing my first "real" playthrough and it seems alright.
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>>150224435
>I'm doing my first "real" playthrough
What does that even mean?
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>>150224997
I've had the game for 2 years and I've put it down like twice. I'm playing through all of it now.
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>>150223573
Ok I thought it was useless to grind in this game because I tend to backtrack a lot in case I miss items or to save the game.
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>>150224435
It does a few things very wrong considering the standard set by the other games in the mainline series, yes.
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>>150225198
Whose to say you won't just put it down again. I mean there has to be a reason why you put it down twice, right? I see. Well the game does things differently than the other entries. I don't think it pays off all to well.
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>>150224435
Out of all the 5, it's the worst main line game.

Of course, considering how much this place masturbates over Nocturne, it's very much average.

Demon fusion is TOO easy, and the plot & characters fall apart like sand if you think about them too hard.

10/10 it's ok
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>>150225318
IV is just too tame. I want to see even more and weirder Esoteric™ game mechanics in megaten games, not a repeat of the same formula and the same 3 alignments over and over.
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>>150225527
The first time I had other games to play and the second time my 3ds died. I got a 3ds last weekend and I'm farther than before so there's that.
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>>150224435
Do you think it's bad? There's your answer.
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>play Pokemon
>years pass
>smt4
>RPGs are fun again
>monster collecting is fun again
How did they do it?
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>>150228406
smt4 is the worst smt
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>>150225618
which SMT game do you think is the best?
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>>150200990
my wallet
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>>150210917
Make the right choices and take Elly or Chris.
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>>150222632
Most RPGs stats don't mean jack shit.

name jrpgs where to matters

all i can think of is lunar sssc
fuck you slime boss
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>>150225318
What this "standard" set by the other games? Because considering how SJ and Nocturne do things that are completely different than I,II and if... and IV is more of a return to form to I and II, I'd say Nocturne and SJ would be the one not following the standards.

>>150225618
Plot and Characters are never the strongest part of SMT, and IV has a more realized world than most.
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>>150228406
Pokemon don't have personalities.
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>>150225203
I mean that your main party should cover the most essential things like nulling their weaknesses and ailments.

Equiping them with the late-game mantras will do wonders to them.
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>>150230987
Does it rape you?
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>>150230804
>Chris
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>>150233791
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zr8RNeOQg3g

The bosses scale to your own level, so it's basically impossible if you aren't ~10
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>>150234739
>not playing the PSX version
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are the case files in raidou 2 worth doing? do the unique ones add any story to the game?
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>>150231520
>Pokemon don't have personalities.
http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Nature
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>>150237595
>here's one word that describes its personality
deepest lore
>>>/vp/
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Hey /smtg/, I've never played SMT, but, I'm from /feg/, and I was browsing the eshop today, and I saw that the game SMT Devil Survivor 2 Record Breaker is on sale. One of my friends is really into SMT, and he's told me that's an SRPG. Do you think that'd be a good place for me to start with the series? I've got $45 on my eshop, so I'm debating between Xenoblade 3D or that.
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>>150241404
Get SMT IV. DeSu isn't that great as an SRPG anyway.
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>>150241404
you can emulate the original desu 2 on ds
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>>150241675
So get Xenoblade?
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>>150241764
Well, it'd give you an idea if it's worth buying the enhanced one or not
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>>150241404
Xenoblade is a better JRPG than most SMT, so Xenoblade.
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>>150241764
Yes.

If you're interested in SMT try some of the PS2 games, Nocturne, Digital Devil Saga etc.
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>>150241404
The original Devil Survivor was my first SMT franchise game. Lead me to Persona, which lead me to Nocturne, which lead me here.

Now I can never leave.

But DeSu2 is worse than DeSu1, which was above average, only after the re-release update fixed everything. Just buy Xenoblade.
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>>150242326
I mean, I've played Xenoblade. I just wanna get it on 3DS because I love the idea of playing it in bed.
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>tfw DeSu is my favorite entry in the series
>everyone else hates it
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>>150228406
SMT was always there, you only had to discover it.

And seriously, they all flew completely under my radar. I wish I could have done my part to give at least one more sale to Nocturne and DDS on release.
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>>150243663
Hey, I don't hate it. I absolutely love it.

It's DeSu2 that I hate.
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>>150243863
really?
you're not just saying that to make me feel better?
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>>150243974
even then, people seem to like the gameplay for desu2
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>>150244037
both of them really scratch an itch I've always had but can't put my finger on
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>>150243663
Every game that's been released in english gets shit on.
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>>150244471
is there a superiority complex going on or something?
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>Found out the reds are actually harvested human brains
>Think the atmosphere is going to be completely serious for a while
>Literally the next cutscene are the Samurai being high as fuck
Anyone got a screenshot of Cat Jonathan?
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>>150243663
I feel love and hate for it.

I regard its gameplay to not be as deep and engaging as other SMT games, but it also happens to be a great RPG if I feel like playing a megaten in short bursts of time.
I would also be lying if I said that I didn't enjoy the story of DeSu1, becoming the supreme edgelord and punching all the Bells and angels in the face.

I'm also considering to stop being a bitch and give DeSu2 a chance.
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>>150244471
>>150244556
Duh, that's because more people can play them.
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>>150243974
Haha, no anon, I promise. It's a weird opinion, but I think the Overclocked was a masterpiece. Besides the redundant player choices, everything else was perfect. The battle music was rocking, the OC demon bosses were awesome, the difficulty re-balanced just right, voice actors doing their roles perfectly.

Plot and mechanic wise it was also perfect. The death clock was a brilliant choice to add urgency, all plot threads wrapped up in one way or another, pacing wasn't overbearing, 8th day events actually had effort put into them, etc. The characters were all fun and interesting too, even Midori. That's probably just because I knew an irl Midori though. Atsuro's a bro, and Haru best slut.

I think the best part was how the story felt more megaten than other spinoffs, despite the fact that this one had absolutely no connection to the mainline.

I dunno what else to say anon, I just liked it.
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>>150244832
>I'm also considering to stop being a bitch and give DeSu2 a chance.
It's not as bad as you've heard
Just a bit on the silly side
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>>150243663
>people hate DeSu
Wait what? That's like my favorite game.
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>>150245146
>I dunno what else to say anon, I just liked it.
Nah I gotcha
There's just some thing about the game that makes it feel so well put together.
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I hate that I hate SRPG's.
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>>150245780
I hate that I hate dungeon crawlers
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>>150243663
Xeno- is just a better series than SMT.

It's not DeSu's fault.
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>>150245892
Aw man I'd hate myself if that happened to me. I'm sorry.
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>>150245780
DeSu isn't really a Srpg, it's more just a tile based dancing combat game
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>>150246032
HOLY DANCE
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>>150246032
I've said this a while ago but it's the lack of exploration aspect that bothers me about SRPG's. I wanna see the world and look at trash cans and find treasure and shit. I wanna feel like I'm in the world and I can't do that with SRPG's. And it's not quite the same thing as a book.
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>>150246324
DeSu (the first one) is good about SMT atmosphere, but the SRPG elements are kind of lacking. They're not so much strategy, as they are, use a ranged demon/devil speed to close the distance to the enemy, and multi-strike/Holy dance to win for the entire game.
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>>150246032
Don't forget plumbing
Drain is hilarious when you get 40 mag
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>>150243775

I asked for Nocturne as a Birthday present on a whim right around release. Talk about a great random gift. I've followed the series ever since and picked up most games around release. Of course I goofed and didn't get some of those Persona special editions that are now super expensive for whatever reason, but I've got SJ with the original faulty OST and the replacement disc that Atlus sent me. It's nice to follow a franchise for a while and support them while you can. My only regret is time constraints and not being able to finish most games due to various circumstances.

You might have missed the boat on supporting the earlier games, but if the newer ones are to your liking throw a few dollars towards Atlus. If you're not as keen on the newer games, play the older ones via whatever methods available and help out with a tech project or make OC for /smtg/. Missing the boat on original releases kinda sucks, sure, but there are plenty of gaps when it comes to translations, tracking down art, setting up a spooky cyberpunk BBS (sorry I had to shelve that one for now, guys), tracking down raw data for the phone games (I do NOT want to see those lost to history), so on and so forth. Hell, I have an MSX on my shopping list just so I can record Telenet Megaten footage for some reference.

Bottom line is, if a game series is good enough that you don't mind putting up with 4chan shitposting, it makes sense to show some support however is currently possible.
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>>150244570
I wonder if the Asura Kai sell drugs made up off Yaso Magatsuhi's fumes when they're not selling red pills. It must be better than Maitreya's bhudda weed.
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>>150247606
>Hell, I have an MSX on my shopping list just so I can record Telenet Megaten footage for some reference.

did you find a rom for it

i wanna play too
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>>150252360

Give this a shot, anon: http://www.msxabandonware.com/en/gameitems/digital-devil-story/229

I looked it up on Yahoo Japan and saw a loose cart BIN for about sixty bucks, which is pretty good considering we'd probably never see it on eBay in the US. Getting an MSX Turbo R on the other hand... Well, I guess playing speed-patched Konami games comes at a premium.
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>>150247606
Totally true.

The current Fatlus tax along with the Persona milking has left me disappointed, but I've been getting into the older stuff, also bought SMT IV and DeSu:O, and I really look forward to get Final on release regardless of the stupid tax.
I wish I did more cool OCs, but I'm not that creative, so they are very sporadic.

>setting up a spooky cyberpunk BBS
Take your time, hacker, but I'm still waiting for it.
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>>150224435

It was my first in the series and I had a lot of fun with it. The OST makes the game worth it.
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>my Alciel has 1 thing it isn't null too (Light) and has Endure anyway
The fusion for this game is terrible, not even Persona is this casual
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>tfw excited for Apocalypse despite all the shit it gets

Anybody else?
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>>150256092
I'm excited because it's a new game.
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>>150256583

The only thing influencing my hype at all is how much I preemptively hate Navarre's ghost. Everyone else looks really cool, I love the sound of the gameplay enhancements (Strength not being shit, Dark and Light being useful), and both routes sound really fun.

My Flynn was a MAG nuke who was a shameless Lawfag so it'll be fun to play a DEX Nanashi that goes full edgelord Anarchy.
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>>150256092
I just want more translated SMT.
My hunger cannot be contained.
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>>150256990
I want QDS vol. 2.
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>>150256092
I am still hyped. I've been looking forward to it and informing myself about it since the day they started their viral campaign with that timer and the breaking wall with graphitti. I have spoiled myself in some details, but I'm still blind to many others.

The thing is that I already made my own opinions about it, and they won't change at all until I get to play it.
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>>150256062
Devil Children?
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>>150241404
DeSu: overclocked puts DeSu:2 record breaker to shame
unless you like weebshit I guess
DeSu 2 is a shit introduction to the series

DeSu 1 however was amazing and was the first game I beat in the series
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>>150259789
desu desu desu
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>SMTIV was my first and I loved it
>absolute hate weebshit

Where do I go from here?
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>>150260117

Majin Tensei or Digital Devil Saga, I guess?
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>>150260117
Persona
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>>150259938
De(Devil)Su(Survivor)
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>>150256062
endgame if your demons aren't repeling everything you aren't trying hard enough in fusions, one of my favorite things about SMT is how you run around kicking ass in the last few areas of each game/new game+
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>>150260117
devil survivor overclocked
nocturne
DDS
SMT 1
SMT 2
KMT I-II
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>>150260746
desu
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>>150261732
>KMT I-II

?
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>>150261892
Check the starter guide
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>>150261892
KMT wasa remake of the first two games (from Famicom to Super-Famicom)
the download link for the translated rom is in the pastebin links in the OP, and you can play the rom with any standard SNES emuator
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>>150261978
>>150262114
thank yu
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Why does midori have the "a deals a deal" face in desu?
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>>150263461
Speak in a language other than Memes, please.
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>>150263523
It's time you learned
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>>150263665
I'm too old to learn.
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/smtg/, I got a problem.
I beat SMTIV with the White ending to get that awful end done with first, but never got around to doing the others because of how busy that year was, game wise. Thinking of going through it again, but I forgot that I chose to keep my level for some reason. Would it be okay to just go through Chaos and Law by fast-clearing through and then trying Neutral on a Level 1 Master difficulty (maybe even trying out the DLC demons), do it all on Master with a limit on what demons I summon, or just go "Fuck it" and play how I want?
I've got a big problem with caring about the difficulty I choose. Even when it's too much for me or not fun, I end up trying to pick harder ones because of how people end up hating the more casual parts of the fanbase. I don't even care how someone else plays the games, but can't help judge myself over it.
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>>150263918
>>150263523
https://boards.fireden.net/_/search/text/%22a%20deal%20is%20a%20deal%20anon%22/order/asc/
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>>150107923
>tfw you didn't want to go Peace because of him
But I would've missed out on the fucking 4 Protag YHVH team up that still seems cool. Fuck you, to that guy who was shitting on it in his SMT art blog, it actually ended up being a nice fight.

After importing it, trust me, it's not all bad. Did all the routes and ended up pretty satisfied, even with Ghost Butt being around.
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>>150264014
Ye, you fucked up.
But if you have the will power to go through the same game 3 times in a row then go ahead and follow your plan.

I am replaying it on New Life? (no carry overs but the compendium) in Master difficulty and has given me a lot of tense but satisfying moments.

My only problem with it is that the hard mode barely gives you any money, so it is hard to go World of /fa/ without cheating.
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>>150265564

Thanks, anon. Giving me the strength to do a Peace playthrough later.
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>>150266036
SMTIV is definitely a very comfy mainline game. It's so nice trying gimmick shit like trying to solo stuff with JUST Demonica Flynn and Demonee-ho, or other armor/demon combos like that. I wish they'd do it like EO, with selectable things being switched on or off, so I can keep the equips but change level back to 1.

Ah screw it, I'm just gonna play how I want and not worry what people think. Time for World of STR in a Jack-only run.
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>>150266636
Your mileage may vary, etc etc. It's a bit fucked up to see some tense or emotional moments broken by him, but there's still a lot of neat things about everything's past. Anarchy is so hilariously edgy that you can't pass it up, and Peace is a corny but not Persona-esque fun ride of smiles paid by the cycle of sacrifices and hell that both protags went through. It's seriously less happy-joy and more just throwing them a fucking bone for once.
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>>150266826
Hate to be that guy, but you're not really soloing if you've got a demon present. Even if it's just one demon.
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>>150267408
That's true. Duoing I guess?
If Flynn can learn Recarmdra even, that could make for a fun challenge.
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>>150266826
>Time for World of STR in a Jack-only run.
I like how you think.

Another interesting run could be a classic demon summoner one, where Flynn never learns skills and you always keep a Cerberus around.
But just go crazy and do whatever you want.
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>>150268985
Shit, that'd be rad. Guns are damn good in the game though, even without skills, so that seems not so hard. Cerberus definitely deserves that attention though.
I'm wondering how hard a no-fusion run could end up. Would really have to work up them stat boost, Extra skill, and Talk+ apps to get by.Hell, even an SMT1 run with fusing allowed, but you're only allowed to use innate and level-up moves would be a neat challenge.

Thought I'd be laughed off, but thanks, man. So many ideas for different kinds of runs.
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>>150269340
There's also the recommendation feature in fusions, so that the fusions can kinda work like they did in Nocturne.

As for the no fusion run... I don't feel so confident about that one. In the late game you only get really shitty demons for random encounters, and at least in my case my entire late-game party consisted of fusion fodder, and OP demons created through special fusions.
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Good night, Master.
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>>150260117
>>SMTIV was my first and I loved it
>>absolute hate weebshit
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>>150258192
SMT4
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>>150265564
Have you done the Anarchy route? It's a lot better, the fight is also more challenging because you can't abuse press turn as much.

>After importing it, trust me, it's not all bad. Did all the routes and ended up pretty satisfied, even with Ghost Butt being around.
Yeah, if you're easily satisfied maybe. There's a reason why most people don't like it.
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>beaten about 10 or so games in the series, including Nocturne and DDS 2 hard mode
>this faggot table is still the hardest Megaten boss that isn't Demi-fiendfor me by far
the fuck were they thinking when they made this thing
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>>150273390
>Did all the routes

And dude, it's okay if you don't agree with what I said, but you don't gotta go that far and say I'm easily satisfied. Like every game, it did some things good and some things bad. I can respect why some people wouldn't like it, especially with the whole midquel/sequel weirdness, Polytheism not getting a route, etc. Still think it's a great game with an amazing soundtrack. DLC is weird as fuck though.
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>>150273790
Nocturne Lucifer pushed my shit for a while, I was not prepared
I can't think of any P3 bosses that are hard for reasons other than being underleveled
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>>150272982

SMTIV wasn't very weeb, Isabeau and Neutral notwithstanding.
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>>150274035
Anon c'mon, you're a samurai who lives in a European style castle in Japan.
Let's be real though, every MegaTen game is weeb as fuck, but that's fine.
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>>150273943
>Did all the routes
Yeah, I'm retarded.

>midquel/sequel weirdness
Not really a bad thing. It being more like a spin-off in terms of story and themes is worse.

>Still think it's a great game with an amazing soundtrack.
Soundtrack is good, yeah but I wouldn't say that the game is great. What difficulty did you play on? I didn't find it challenging at all.
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>>150274226
>Let's be real though, every MegaTen game is weeb as fuck, but that's fine.
IV is the 'weebiest' mainline so far, besides what the other guy mentioned there's still Navarre, Lilim, the yaso scene, Kaga's death, Hikaru and probably more.
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What 3DS SMTs should I play now that I've finished IV
Are they ports or actual new games?
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>>150274292
I meant more like the confusion of what exactly it was, at first. And eh, I did a lot of the extra stuff and got to see a lot of hints or continuations from IV hidden throughout, and that seemed really SMTII-like but even more, you know? Ironically, the Polytheistic stuff seems pretty weak in retrospect, but I put that to them dipping their toe into the waters and not doing too much crazy with it. Played it a bit safe. Anarchy had me laughing at how edgy it was, especially while reading it in moon, because of the way it said it.

Difficulty, I think I just picked the regular one for my first go since I had bad memories of starting Nocturne and thinking I could start it on Hard and finish it. Ended up getting till Dante or something and just restarting because it wasn't a fun thrill. After that I felt that nah, I could go harder. Not that difficult but still very enjoyable. The tiny changes they made to combat and fusion help it out compared to IV, and I remember having fun fusing for like 2 hours, not even for better demons but just to get my compendium filled and mess around.

About as challenging as SMT1 and 2, which is to say "Not very". If you're into a challenge, then you could limit yourself like what those anons do, or just play another game. I can respect that you didn't like it for that reason, but I DID like the game for other reasons.
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>>150274586
Soul Hackers if you want 90s Megaten.
DeSu 1 is still great, 2 if you really are starving. Both are better than their DS versions.
Persona Q as a game is great, but the story and characterization kinda shits all over everything by making everyone just single traits or jokes, so be warned.
I can't remember much else except the Virtual Console release of Red and Black Book.
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>>150275225
>I did a lot of the extra stuff
There's not much challenge quests compared to IV but there are some nice ones, yeah.

>Ironically, the Polytheistic stuff seems pretty weak in retrospect
Was really disappointed by that, they could've done a lot better (or not, considering the new team, I'm still baffled by how close we were to getting an even worse game if it weren't for Yamai saying that he doesn't want to get too far from mainline)

>Not that difficult but still very enjoyable
I don't know, it was somewhat enjoyable but sure as hell not because of the fights (and the disappointments still outweighed the good points, I expected too much I guess). I felt treated like a retard most of the time. Not difficult at all.

>I remember having fun fusing for like 2 hours, not even for better demons but just to get my compendium filled and mess around.
That's how it's supposed to be in this franchise or not?

>About as challenging as SMT1 and 2, which is to say "Not very".
Well, if you abuse guns in those games, I'd even say Final was more difficult because you have to use your brain at least a little bit although I haven't played any difficulty below hard, so I wouldn't know how those play.
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>>150276469
>That's how it's supposed to be in this franchise or not?
No? That's just an example of just how fun the game can be, that you can be willing to just stop story progression just for your own fun. Had the same feeling with Nocturne and especially Strange Journey, though. Seriously though, picking things out like that isn't real fun to post back to and just comes off as a bit aggressive.

For the new team stuff, yeah they really need to work some things out. IV was great and FINAL had good parts that continued from it, but it did feel like they were going "Lets experiment a bit while we can, to see how mainline fans react to _____". To be honest, would have been better if they used the other proto Protag design. How did you feel about them?

Yeah iunno, I never really thought of SMT as "hard" barring parts of Nocturne and DDS (the PS2 games, I mean. Not the Famicom one), and M.A. of Strange Journey. The Talk system, dungeon crawling, and demons were always my main draw to the series, and the difficulty was just icing on the cake. Probably why I'm so interested in Persona 1. Let me say this though, Atlus sure as hell got started translating early, because I sure as hell had to take a minute to translate that shit every time it came up.
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>>150181501
Just make Mikado Great Again!
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>>150244570
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>>150277627
>Had the same feeling with Nocturne and especially Strange Journey, though.
That's my point, you mentioned it as if it were something unique to Final. I have fun fusing in pretty much every game in the franchise that has it.

>Seriously though, picking things out like that isn't real fun to post back to and just comes off as a bit aggressive.
Wasn't my intention at all.

>To be honest, would have been better if they used the other proto Protag design. How did you feel about them?
I would've preferred the prototype too but I don't really mind how (shitty) Nanashi looks. Going with the older design would've probably affected the story though which in my opinion would have likely made it better (I don't think the Friendship stuff works with an adult looking protag)

>Yeah iunno, I never really thought of SMT as "hard" barring parts of Nocturne and DDS (the PS2 games, I mean. Not the Famicom one), and M.A. of Strange Journey.
I have to agree but exactly the ones you mentioned made me hope that they continue that road, IV already showed what direction they're trying to go now and it does comply with the current trend of games in general.

>Atlus sure as hell got started translating early, because I sure as hell had to take a minute to translate that shit every time it came up.
What do you mean?
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>>150275787
Is 90s megaten dated as fuck or has it aged well
I already played PQ also
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>>150278252
Very sorry then, I just meant to say that it brought that feeling back in me. And yeah, the story would take a different turn if he had a design like that.

I think games now are just opening up a lot to others. Niche games have easy modes now to attract more people to the craze. Admittedly a lot harder nowadays to keep the flow with so many other series to compete with. A revised Hard Mode definitely could fix this, since it lets original players play like they always have, and lets new players start out easy to get their feet wet. I think with the reaction they got though in Japan, I think they'll work on it. Too bad that SMTV could very well come out in 10 or so years.

>What do you mean?
Just me being silly about how some of the Japanese was a bit hard to understand. This is my first time just playing an imported MT game, so I expected it, but knowing how much text there is, it makes me think that it must take a long while getting it all translated. Getting IV back then so quick after the JP release already had me super surprised, and actually seeing the Japanese in the game has me even more surprised.
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>>150278986
Hard question to answer, since in general, it's kind of split. I've played a ton of dungeon crawlers from back in the day, so it still seems new enough to me, but there's definitely a difference between SMTIV and SH. If you can deal with SMT1, you'll be more than fine.
I meant 90s in feel too, since the atmosphere is 90s as fuck.
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>>150279285
>if you can deal with SMT1
I've played none of them but Nocturne and 4, I am a pleb ready to be molded by your opinion
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>>150279375
Be molded by this, then: SH can help ease you into them with how it plays, although do know that the Loyalty system is just for it and maybe the other DS.
Get SH and play it so you can talk about how cool Nemissa is.
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>>150066069
are there any quests in blasted/infernal tokyo i need to do in order to get the neutral ending?
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>>150281086
No.
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are the fiends worth it in IV
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>>150281597
No.
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>>150281597
More than in I and II.
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>>150281597
hell no
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k ill just move on to my first sj file then. anything i should know before starting?
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>>150232321
All the characters can null the elements they are weak to except Cielo so far. I guess I should try to make Serph get bufudyne and ice amp against Cerberus? And maybe dekunda and dekaja because he won't stop spamming buffs and debuffs.
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>>150247606
I didn't have a PS2 at the time and I didn't understand English at all back then, so there was no way I could have played any Megaten game back then. I missed all the fun (on pixiv and personal blogs, and on livejournal when fancommunities were still popular) but I'm glad I can play more games now that I understand English almost perfectly. Since I'm European I'm trying to buy more megaten games whenever they are on sales because I want to show support so we'll still get games here. I think I just need he first Raidou game, Strange Journey and DeSu2 to have most of the localized games.
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dead
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>>150289461
I'm awake
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>>150289461
Make sure you bring more Macca next time!
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>>150289461
Do you wish to be revived with macca, or play coins?
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Guy who is doing a Nemechi run in SH, come here and report how's your experience going so far.
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>>150260117
P1 on psp with psx music patch
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Tayama did nothing wrong!
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>>150272982
Nice art.
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I'm playing through Digital Devil Saga for the first time.
I enjoy it a lot. Heat is a fuckboi though.
But i was wondering if choices in this game matters?
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>>150294476
Not really.

I think they only matter once for the campaign. And in DDS2 they do in a minor way, of whether Heat joins you back or not, ironically.
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how do i get over my fear of dungeon crawlers, /smtg/ ?
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>>150236905
Yes. It doesn't add much to the story, but there are lots of references and cool boss fights.
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>>150295946
Why are you afraid of them, anon
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Hoy.
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I'm new to the megami tensei series and was wondering what exactly are the differences between the gun and the sword? I've seen no use for the gun so far, what's the point of it? is there a certain type of enemy that's weak to it?
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>>150300875
>is there a certain type of enemy that's weak to it?
Yes. Usually winged demons.
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>>150300875
What game are you playing?
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>>150298385
walking around is kind of boring desu
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Hoy.
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>>150307013
.yoH
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Hoy.
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>>150225618
>Of course, considering how much this place masturbates over Nocturne, it's very much average.
Do you think it's still 2012? This general has been sucking off Strange Journey ever since IV released.
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>>150289461
I'm up, just five more minutes.
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>>150310305
IV was such a disappointment that it makes everything else looks good
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>>150311272
I wouldn't even say that because now we hate every game but Strange Journey
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>>150311272
True. Posts like this are the reason why I'm looking forward to the day you guys get Final.
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is it confession time
I've never played SJ
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>>150311898
get out of my fuckinjg general you fucking piece of shit
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>>150311898
I'm a Kaneko fanboy that considers IV a spin-off because it doesn't have characters designed by him.
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>>150311979
is your confession autism or what
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>>150312694
Not an argument.
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>final got a lot of cool extra bonus in japan
>apocalypse is only getting some shitty metal pins (??)
>they even have showed them

What the fuck atlus
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>>150312980
Not an argument.
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>>150312585
>that considers IV a spin-off
You're just as bad as those faggots who consider Avatar: The Last Airbender and anime because they like it, but refuse to acknowledge Spongebob as an anime.

The Japanese call everything anime over there.
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>>150313161
>but refuse to acknowledge Spongebob as an anime.
Oh yes, the classic let's call things that aren't anime anime meme, truly epic.
Anime is short for animation you know, no shit they consider stuff like this "anime" over there.
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i want to see Sandy drawn in anime form
can japan make a squirrel hot
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>>150312980
/pol/ go away
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>>150312585
But the artbook, anon. He had a part in almost everything to do with IV, and the games feel more like 1 and 2 than Nocturne was.
I honestly dislike Nocturne because the Talk system was the worst out of them all. Not horrible, just the least good. I don't give a shit if /v/ goes crazy over it, it just ain't my favorite.
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>>150314957
>He had a part in almost everything to do with IV
What exactly? Did he have really something to say or were they just listening to his opinion but doing what they wanted anyways.
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>>150313105

And retailer-specific costumes!
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>>150314957
I know about the artbook.
I liked the negotiation in Nocturne but despised SJ's.
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>>150311898
I think IV is a masterpiece in terms of story
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>>150311898
Actually it was I who wrote a letter about Krishna to Rajan Zed, because I hate you fucks and want your mainline to be canceled or censored into shit for NA release
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>>150316746

I liked it too but you can't tell me that Walter and Jonathon didn't completely change personalities or that Neutral didn't feel incredibly contrived.

The core idea is good (medieval samurai stumble into post-apocalyptic Tokyo as God and Lucifer fight over it) but the execution was lacking.
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>>150317201
>The core idea
>medieval samurai stumble into post-apocalyptic Tokyo as God and Lucifer fight over it

The core idea was about interconnected dualities that cant exist on their own without other. /smtg/ cant into subtlety, I guess.
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>>150317530
I feel ya, dude.
I got that one gamurgrill friend who told me how she was disappointed in Issachar death moment, because she couldn't give less of a fuck about him.
She expected some sort of anime dramashit, while being unable to understand, that entire scene was about foreshadowing the theme of the game. Flynn did absolutely nothing wrong, but just because of his luck he unwittingly turned a good guy into Chaos.
After I explained this shit to her we had a sex btw.
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>>150311898
Me neither.

And all these shitposters make me not want to touch it.
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>choose law in SMT IV
>make Mikado great again
>kill the lying jew angel
>anime was a mistake
>your best friends has now big boobs
>remove tokyo
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>>150318673
>your best friend has now big boobs
That sounds so lewd, but it's completely true.
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>>150318261
>She expected some sort of anime dramashit
His fight was mostly that though.
>YOU'RE NO LONGER A CASUALRY FLYNN
>WHY DO YOU KEEP MAKING ME SUFFER YOU LUXUROR SCUM
>F-FLYNN... REMEMBER HOW WE SPENT 2 MINUTES TOGETHER AT THE START OF THE GAME PLEASE CHANGE THIS ROTTEN WORLD
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>>150315079
He had a shitton of say in it. Had a big say in whether his protege's art went in or needed adjustments, and did a lot of planning on the art.
You may hate the guest art, but that was just Atlus thinking there needed to be something new in, or something. Admittedly, some of it was cool, and it was only every a temporary thing anyways.
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I have cancer and I will die in 2 weeks.
The game I always wanted to play before my death is SMT If...
I hope you will finish it Gideon, I'm counting on you.
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Such is a samurai skill!
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>>150321387
I don't really care about the shitty art, I'm talking about the themes, story etc.

>>150321449
Should've learned how to read the mystic script. Too late now, faggot.
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>>150321449
Better hope you reincarnate as a Megaten fan again.
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Why is there no Polytheist route in Apocalypse? Are they just painted as such cunts that you'd never want to join them?
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>>150323084
Probably because Anarchy is just an improved version of their plan.
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>>150323623

Doesn't Anarchy involve murdering literally all of them?
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>>150323084
Yes. They manage to be too hipster as Krishna has a fedora he can tip.

>>150323734
Yes. Thus an improved version.
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>>150318673
>Hugo turns everyone into demons in Mikado via literature while Jon lies.
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>>150318673
Sasuga best route
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>>150313105
>>150315087
Even some Nip and Korean fans on twitter like that american only red/black outfit released in english. It's even got fanart with them putting Apocalypse.
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>>150321449
PM it to Gideon.

I'm sure he's already done with it, but he has forgoten to upload it.
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>>150317043
sure thing baitmaster
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>>150311898
Forgive me Father, for I have sinned

>I refuse to play DeSu because i hate the art style

>I like Persona 2 IS's story but hate the gameplay because it's slow and too easy. I switched the difficulty from hard to easy to make the battles go by faster.

>Zelenin, Louisa Ferre, and Agrilla are very ugly.
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>>150311898
I never bought a copy in its time, or have an emulator good enough to run it.
I want to play it, but 3ds DS gamus never.
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Just finished Nocturne TDE on Normal, going to start NG+ on Hard now.

Hope there's an SMT PS2 Classics sale on PSN tomorrow, I want to play the other games too.
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>>150274513
The term weeb has been watered down like crazy and now it seems to be just a catch all for anything from Japan instead of what it used to mean.
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>>150323084
Yes, then again so is everyone who doesn't agree with the Peace Path. Pretty much Danu is the only one who's right from the viewpoint of Final's narrative.
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>>150338638
What really bugs me is the giant asspull that is Danu reviving Dagda
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>>150340001
I've heard that Danu used the powers that she recently gained from sealing Inanna inside of Nozomi to give birth to a newer and PC Dagda.
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>>150311898
I still haven't beaten SMTII, even if it's mostly because I lost a good chunk of progress due to emulator shenanigans.

It's the only mainline outside of if... I haven't finished, too...
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>>150331225
>Argilla
>very ugly
REEEE
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>>150331225
>Argilla
>ugly

Are you gay, son?
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>>150311898
I really like Yasuda's art
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>>150311898
I reached the Cathedral in SMT I but got tired of the game (and that annoying music) and just watched the final bosses fights + ending on Youtube.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JNwEGyKKRUw
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SMT: the Animation by Studio Khara.
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>>150347356
>OST is all Eva stuff
pls no
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>>150311898
I Asahi dies, Nanashi is Akira
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>>150347468
>being this gay
Its not too late to put yourself towards path of righteousness, anon.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4v5VbvUo0gU&list=FLwfbHqo3nVtxMgetX6FlLnw&index=2
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>>150347528
Everyone knows this already, don't they?
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>>150347707
>Implying the problem is that Eva music is bad
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>>150347849
Whats the problem then?
>implying Studio Khara is all about Eva and Hideaki
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>>150347996
The OST you linked to has like 5 different renditions of Eva music in it. The problem is I'd prefer to see music from SMT or new stuff.
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>>150347356
>SMT anime by ufotable never ever
>SMT anime by KyoAni never ever
>SMT anime by MAPPA never ever
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SMT x S.T.A.L.K.E.R
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>>150348615
>SMT anime by KyoAni never ever

So an anime about Hero, Aleph, Demi-fiend, Flynn and Nanashi drinking tea and eating cake?
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>>150348615
I feel like KyoAni wouldn't be a good choice. Their shit is pretty and well animated, but I've never seen them use character designs that would work well with SMT. MAPPA would be great though. I don't like ufotable.

But we all know who would get the job if they ever animated SMT. So not only would it be a trainwreck waiting to happen it'd also be ugly.
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>>150348940
SMTIV.
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>>150349021
SMT x Call of Pripyat
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>>150348998
F/SN was animated by Deen first, you know...
>>150348960
Exactly.
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>>150349320
>F/SN was animated by Deen first, you know...
I do and I'm not sure why you'd think I don't know. I said I don't like ufotable.
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>>150349543
I said that towards
>But we all know who would get the job if they ever animated SMT
Also,
>I said I don't like ufotable.
>being this homo
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>>150348615
>SMT anime by SHAFT
Just imagine...
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>>150350086
>no ending where you marry Marie and turn into lord of the mansion

What a wasted potential.
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>>150349907
Well now I'm just confused. What does that statement have to do with DEEN's F/SN? I thought you just assumed the reason I didn't like ufotable because of DEEN's work, but now you're making no sense.

We all the know the studio that would get the job is A1.

>>150350086
>SMT: The Slideshow
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Which SMT character has the biggest butt?
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>her default smile
unf
why is she giving me that look
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>>150350916
raidou
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>>150350916
Nozomi
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Hoy.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pD87waPSvc4
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Holy shit IV is garbage
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>>150357419
Nah it's okay
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>>150357985
4 /10 at best
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>>150358548
eh
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>>150357419
Sorry that it didn't meet your expectations. I honestly really liked it.
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Are any of the Raidou manga not shit?
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>>150357419
SJ was shit, I agree.
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Remember early IV days of everyone going crazy about Smirking, and trying to find hints on the site?
Good times.
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>>150363562
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>>150364342
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>>150253824
thanks

the msx has no right being so cool
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>>150292549
disgusting
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>>150324619
post pics
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>>150340882
fuck smt2
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Hoy.
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Just who is Hitoyshura?
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>>150371270
A nice boy
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>>150340260
She uses the luck of the Irish to make a fake Dagda.

Dagda doesn't die either but escapes with his own Irish light.
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>>150374191
somehow it's even sadder to imagine them celebrating in the end with a fake than just a brainwashed Dagda
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>>150374419
Yes and fake Dagda is a mommys boy. Dagda would vomit if he wasn't all bone.
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Here is some twitter art I menyioned about the American DLC preorders.
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>>150376035
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>>150360842
What makes them awful? The story?
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>>150374419

>"betraying" your friends to end YHVH's tiranny once and for all and create a better world is bad
>But somehow creating a fake clone of your son and beating the hell out of the real deal for having a different opinion is okay

Whoever made the plot for this trainwreck deserves to be shot
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Hoy.
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Playing Strange Journey for the first time, is any kind of build viable?
Havent even taken the test or w/e that the faq mentions, just curious before i start
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>>150381626
You don't get to distribute your stats on SJ, so don't worry about that.
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>>150311898
I think Digital Devil Saga 1 is the best game in the series and would be perfect if it had a hard mode.

I got the white ending in SMT 4 with then intention of replaying it on hard mode and getting the real ending but got bored of the game and never beat it. Despite this when asked I say I beat the game.

I can't get into the Raidou games because of the gameplay

I never beat the final boss of Strange Journey because I stopped giving a shit
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This is an honest question here: does /smtg/ really hate Persona 4 (and maybe Persona 3 too)? Or do you just dislike what it brought to the whole megaten franchise in terms of gameplay, story telling, fans, etc, or because its popularity overshadows other games? Do some of you like it? I really like P4G, I'm glad I discovered megaten thanks to it and P3P, but I don't want to stay on /pg/ because I'm trying to avoid spoilers about P5.
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Fucking finally Hiro you hack stop killing the site.
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About to attempt Vishnu/Shiva in DDS2 again. If it proves to be not too much of a struggle, I'd be willing to stream the fights and re-fight them.
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>>150384343
>does /smtg/
/smtg/ as a whole has mixed opinions on Persona. I'm sure a good chunk of us even like the games. Personally I really do hate both of them. I don't enjoy how much time is taken out of the (mediocre) gameplay in favor of what I consider uninteresting and poorly paced story telling.

You really should leave P3/P4 discussion in /pg/ because if we let it happen here that's all this general will be. It completely defeats the purpose of us being separate. That, and people are going to post P5 spoilers here knowing that a lot of people do care about the game. If you want to avoid them you need to exercise some self-restraint and stop going to any place that discusses MegaTen.
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>>150311898
I finished DDS1 a year ago and thought it was boring, never bothered to play the sequel.
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>>150384874
If I tried to talk about P3 and P4 in /pg/ you know very well everyone will answer shit like "[insert female character name] is best girl!!1!". I was more curious about this thread specifically because sometimes when people complain about these games it's because of the shitty fanbase or other things that aren't related to the games themselves.
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>>150384343
Honestly, I don't like P4. I really liked P3 so I went and bought P4 to play it and was so disappointed by it. I bought The Golden just to see if I could appreciate it more but I still didn't like much. Almost all the characters were annoying as fuck specially Naoto, holy fuck, the "comedy" segments were trash and the gameplay was even easier thanks to having even less elements. Also, the social links were as bad as P3. I only genuinely liked 3 of them.

Still, I think there are some fun moments and the game's bunch of activities and possibility of fully customizing Personas/e can be enjoyable.

P3 is overall alright. Tartarus is the lowest point about it. Pacing is terrible in both games.
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>>150385282
>If I tried to talk about P3 and P4 in /pg/ you know very well everyone will answer shit like "[insert female character name] is best girl!!1!"
That sucks mate, but you still understand where I'm coming from don't you? And I mean the fanbase is pretty shit, but I guarantee most people here who dislike the games have actual reasons to. Just like I'm sure you've got reasons to like it beyond being a waifufag or whatever the current stereotype is.
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>>150385282
>because sometimes when people complain about these games it's because of the shitty fanbase or other things that aren't related to the games themselves.
Really? IIRC most posts here do complain about the shitty gameplay and calendar system. Also
>"[insert female character name] is best girl!!1!"
>>150206227
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>>150384874
>leave P3/P4 discussion in /pg/
The poor anon just wants to discuss the games's themselves. He won't get anywhere on /pg/. As long as we don't keep discussing them here, it's fine.
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>>150385532
>He won't get anywhere on /pg/.
I really feel like you guys don't give /pg/ enough credit. We definitely share posters and we're able to discuss games when people bring up a topic, why wouldn't they be able to?
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I kind of have the itch to play an SMT game but I only have the older ones, Persona 3 and 4 and the DS games available at the moment.

Which one should I play?
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>>150385463
That guy was asking for some tips that aren't in the pastebin for a game that he was about to play. I don't think you can get much discussion out of him. Also stop cherry picking.
>>150385713
SMT I.
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>>150385713
What kind of gameplay do you want?
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>>150385672
Maybe so. But the times I went there to ask shit about P4G and P5 I never really got any useful information.
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>>150385752
I know but if you were here longer, you'd know that a lot of people post stuff like which demon wud u fuq or best girl and shit.
Real discussion (which excludes gamefaq shit) doesn't happen that often.

>>150385781
I never went to /pg/ and I don't feel the need to but could it be that you asked shit everyone can easily look up?
A lot of the time when people complain that there's no discussion going on they don't realize that they themselves haven't really brought up an interesting topic. In generals like this most people have already discussed most stuff and unless you post something interesting they won't repeat themselves.
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>>150273790
>Me and friends all suffered against this boss so much that it became a point of bonding between us
>Let girlfriend play
>She murdered it in seconds because she was playing on easy mode
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>>150384343
I like the Persona series, 3 is one of my favorite games, I just really dislike Persona 4. The IT were (in my opinion) the worst persona team, the only one I liked was Kanji although Naoto was okay I guess. Yosuke was a douche, Chie was annoying, and Yukiko was really boring and bland. Rise started off decent but then turned into the worst person ever, "oooh Senpai, that was so cool XD" "Senpaaaaiii, I wanna suck your dick". I don't even want to talk about Teddie, the fuckboi Alice outfit couldn't save that abomination. Nanako got really annoying after awhile with her obession over Junes, the fucking department store. The s-links were nothing special, the worst ones were Margaret and that fuck ass fox.

I stopped playing after Nanako's "not death" scene. By then, I was just trying to get the game over with because I had gotten tired of it. That scene was the straw that broke the camels back

I didn't hate everything about P4 though. Inaba looked cozy, the rainy day song was catchy, and the faster s-link screen was a nice improvement.

I don't mind when people discuss Persona, I'm not that autistic. Persona is megaten after all.
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>>150387385
Did your Social Link go up as well, faggot?
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Which other SMT game would work best as a movie anthology? DDS?
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>>150387594
It reversed soon after.
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SMT x OFF
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Since I got the Aura Ring which gives +20 to all stats, does that mean I can not bother maxing the stats of whichever party member I gave the ring?

>>150388167
I would say Raidou (1+2) and SJ.
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>>150388379
I'm sorry to hear that.
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>>150388506
It Keeps Beelzebubs Away!
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>>150388520
I feel as though Raidou would actually work best as a series desu, with each case acting as an episode.
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>>150388972
Fujobucks would also come rolling in as a plus.
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>>150388167
DDS already has a series of novels, so which story? Apparently the novels are very different from the games.
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>>150384343
P4 was my introduction into megaten and it helped me to get over a depression. I genuinely enjoyed the ride while it lasted, and all their fanmade stuff kept me occupied for a while.
Then I played P3, which I considered a straight up improvement in every way.
Later on I played other games like Nocturne and SH, and ended up appreciating them more than these two games.

Eventually I began to interact more with the actual Persona fanbase and I realized how disgusting and casual most of them are.


To get to the point:
I consider P4 as ok, although disappointingly casual. I like Persona 3 a lot, but I can recognize its flaws. I hate all the shitty spin-offs and milking with the exception of PQ. And I hate 3/4's of the fanbase.
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Hoy, wake up! It's morning!
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>>150388972

I think Atlus had bigger plans for Raidou that included anime but it didn't happen for some reason. Still it somehow managed to get 2 decent figures.
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>>150393965
3pm is hardly morning you hiki-neet
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>>150395432
It's 7am. And I'm not quite a hiki yet, rude ass. I still leave my house like once a week.
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>play IV
>recruit a demon
>"The demon is acting friendly, as if it were an acquaintance"
>get them with no hassle
THAT NEVER FUCKING HAPPENED. Course, I couldn't get a pic since I was so dumbfounded
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>>150395602
Morning then. Now go do something with yourself. Don't be like me.
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>>150396763
>Don't be like me.
I think it might be too late for me.
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>>150388167
Devil Summoner or Soul Hackers are both short enough concise games that you could make them into 2 60-minute movies and that would probably be enough to cover the major plot points.
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>>150311898
Only played one game and that's SJ.

Slowly plowing through 1, need to soft mod for ps2 ones
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>>150331225
>agrilla
>ugly
A man on my wavelength
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>>150396289
That was a thing in SH, but I don't remember if that feature ever returned.
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What went wrong?
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Hoy
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Hoy.
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>>150409910
Hey dude
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>>150403465
His helmet is a smiling Lego.
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>>150409985
>wrong
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>>150094065

>Astaroth

Real nigga

Kept that dude till the endgame
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>fighting Omoikane in SMT IV
>get the bastard's health down a bit
>Diarahan
>4500 HP healed

wut

I mean, what the fuck? Is it literally just RNG to determine whether or not he uses the "Fuck you, you lose" spell that heals him for a ridiculous amount of health?
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>>150243663

DeSu was my first SMT game, and it's still awesome.
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>>150413050
I think I used him in the babel fight too but now I moved onto the 8th day and got to the mission where you have to save the human tamers from angels killing them and if a single one dies you fail the mission which my MC is having trouble soloing
Gonna grind for a bit of macca to get a double up/animal leg combo for my MC and give some half decent demons in their 60s to some party members
>tfw got upset with the game at the one Aname fight before jezebel and decided to give up the 200 point NG+ title just so I can abuse triple recarm and suicide my MC in
That was the only mission in the main game I couldn't solo with my MC and his super demons since fucking everyone had evil wave
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>>150243663
DeSu is fucking awesome. It's probably my third favorite SMT. I get people might not like Yasuda's designs, but the story and gameplay are excellent. DeSu 2 is absolute trash though.
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>>150415327
>DeSu 2 is absolute trash though
>tfw nobody likes bunny boy
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https://soundcloud.com/thegameexplorer/shin-megami-tensei-iii-nocturne-normal-battle-medley
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>>150413871

Alright so I beat the bastard. Basically went like the last fight except I used Pots to refill my MP and pound him back down. That Diarahan shit is still retarded though -- why not just have it heal him for 300 HP like, you know, actual Diarahan?
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>>150416273
You're thinking of Diarama. Diarahan is always a full heal spell.
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Whats the shortest SMT game, the one that you can beat the fastest on a normal run/first playthrough ?
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>>150416569

Am I? Fuck.

Still stupid tho.
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>>150416613
Maybe Raidou 1 because it's really easy and you'll never have to worry about fusion once you get something that can heal you.
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>>150243663
>shitty ost
>shitty characters
>beyond shit character designs
jeez I wonder why people dislike desu
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>>150416613
Soul Hackers.

I tend to fuck around a lot, visit NPCs through the games and in that one game I explored a lot for the scenery, and yet it only took me like 30 hours to complete.
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>>150415891
Bunny's autistic as fuck answers were genuinely the best stuff written in DeSu 2.
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You are now in charge of remaking SJ. What do you do to fix it?
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>>150419827
Devil Summoner battle system
Sword Fusion/Mystic transformation
Add more dungeon and optional areas

Basically just make it into Devil Summoner: Strange Journey
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>>150417121

>all this shit taste

wew lad
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there's nothing wrong with strange journey
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>>150420703
Pretty nice art.
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Mayafags in suicide watch.
https://aeon.co/essays/thinking-positive-is-a-surprisingly-risky-manoeuvre
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ONE
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TIME
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REJECTED
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>>150426147
Good anime
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>>150311898
Persona 3 is unironically my favorite game in the series, and my favorite game of all time.

I don't like 4, though.
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>>150413871
>>150416273
>>150416624
I think you're supposed to abuse his ice and wind weaknesses. When I beat him I buffed up my whole party then went to town with bufula/zandyne. It was something like 8 hits in 1 player turn. If he doesn't heal for one of his turns you've won since that'll be like 16 super effective hits against him.
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>>150419827
>add Press Turn system
>add a Hard mode
>tweak boss's AI
>add an option to make stats allocable by the player
>make Demonica's builds actually more consistent but add a new "Random" build which is, logically, completely random allocated stats
>make Moon Phases more relevant
>add more demons
>make Law route have an unique final boss
>change fucking Garu into Zan
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>>150428561
>change fucking Garu into Zan
for what purpose
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>>150429075
Because Garu is a meme Zan.
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>>150429075
>he doesn't know
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>>150429272
>>150429181
I know, but it's still silly.
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>>150429352
No. Garu is a meme that should die. Also, all mainlines have Zan, not Garu. If SJ is indeed supposed to be a mainline than there's no point in it having Garu and not Zan. Fucking Garufags.
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>>150428561
>add Press Turn system
Press Turn it's too broken and exploitable desu SMT IV exposed all of its flaws
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>>150430389
The main problem in IV was the terrible balancing of stats lol no VIT and skills. Also, smirk. Nocturne and DDS showed that Press Turn can be good and fun if the game is correctly balanced.
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>>150429272
Who is this Lego man.
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>>150194734
Protip
Time your weapom swing when the enemy icon turns red.
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>>150431389
I'd prefer anything else desu
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>>150194734
>not spending $50 on release for the first print edition
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>>150426147
10/10 post
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>>150243663
It has the best girl in the franchise so its pretty good
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>>150436317
she was pretty boring aside from character design
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>>150436317
Why DeSu girls look better when they're possessed?
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>>150437241
I disagree but respect your opinion

>>150438926
Everyone should look better when they're possessed.
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>Sparing Issachar is the law option
Jonathon I...
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>this entire wild ride in SMT IV

I'm currently in Desert Tokyo? Alternate universe Tokyo? Fuck if I know. is the Alignment lock/ending anytime soon? I feel I might actually have been too neutral for the neutral ending -- as in, the alignment lock choice might throw me into law or chaos no matter which one I pick.
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>>150441605
I'm right where you are, the past few hours of this game have been crazy.
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>>150388167
huh, p3 shit was too expensive but what is this fancy box?
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>>150376035
>>150377000
These are adorable.

>he even has the stupid pins
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>>150384874
>You really should leave P3/P4 discussion in /pg/ because if we let it happen here that's all this general will be. It completely defeats the purpose of us being separate

Fighting game creation of pg reminder.
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>>150441605

You're close. You just need to complete that area and burned Tokyo.
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Hama
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Hoy
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>Out of respect for you three, I'll call it the Eastern Kingdom of Mikado

Oh, fuck.
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>>150453101
If that were to happen, that'll make him the King of the Eastern Kingdom of...

...Eh?
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I beat Pluto, how far am I from the White ending?
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>Belzaboul has 6 range
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Nemissa is really cute.
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>>150453735
>not using Devil Speed / Flight / Phantasma / Switch shenanigans to close the distance within a few rounds
>not cracking the two best skills you absolutely want before Belzaboul turns everything into flies
>not using Amrita or Affection Megamis
>not using Vile + Kishin to artillery his ass right back at him
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>The Tokyo's you go to using the reactor are the one's you saw in the dream when you first met Walter and Jonathan in the Dream
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>>150453735
kek you're not going to like the belberith fight if you don't have good demons with mobility racials
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just started playing DeSu 2 and this hidden fate stuff seems a bit silly
Are they important at all if I'm not going for that Daichi true ending thing?
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If the posting is on-topic and civilized would /smtg/ host TMS on their general?
I do not mean that the autist that now post on /tmsg/ would post here, but since the game is categorized under Megami Tensei would it be allowed to be discussed here?
We aren't talking it being ok in a week or a month, but eventually. What I want to know is does this general does have the common sense not to overlook good gameplay?
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>>150461870
It's Fire Emblem./ Fuck off or just die.
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>>150461870
>fire emblem in an smt general
Fuck off.
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>>150461870
>If the posting is on-topic and civilized would /smtg/ host TMS on their general?
Nah
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>>150459897
I think _Io might die if their fate isn't at least level 3 at a certain point. Aside from that they're only really important if you want certain characters to stick with you until the end since how high their fate is will determine whether they rejoin you or not.
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>>150461870
>If the posting is on-topic and civilized
So never?

Every single time without fail that game has been brought up here, it was/is done to shitpost.
If #FEfags wanted to have a home here, then they certainly haven't cared at all to be seen in a positive light by this general.

So yeah, fuck off.
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>>150461870
>posting is on-topic
It's Fire Emblem, so how could that be possible? Plus, all you fags ever do is spam shit to stir the pot. Fuck you and fuck off.
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>>150461870
Poor #FE got fucked over in pretty much every way imaginable.
Which is a shame because it isn't even that bad.
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>>150462905
So I basically have to use a guide for these dialogue choices or suffer the consequences?
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>>150453669
>he want's the White ending

You have to go through the Tokyo of Demi-fiends and that'll be it.
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>>150396289
I believe you anon.

I got all 4 endings in that game, and that even only happened to me once. Oddly enough, it happened while macca grinding. I had to do a double take because I grind in video games while watching TV, so I wasn't paying too much attention.
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>>150463849
I want to get in NG+ quickly and 100% the game.
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>>150464345
It happens to me somewhat often.
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>>150463421
If you're really worried about messing up then sure. But since you're not trying to get Daichi's true ending it shouldn't be necessary. Getting most of the cast's fate levels up to 4 isn't that hard just avoid picking the silly choices during serious moments and focus mostly on the party members that you actually want to keep.
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>>150455607
>>150459106
>tfw just used Devil Speed on some shitty Lv. 23 demon and then let it die so I could summon my good one and won the map
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How grindy is DeSu 2 compared to 1? I played 1 on easy modo so I wouldn't have to farm free battles for levels so much. But I read that 2's easy modo affects damage in addition to macca and xp gain. I don't know if I'm ready to be that much of a scrub.
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>>150464673
I'm almost done DeSu1 onEeasy and it's still a freaking grindfest, I'm going to assume DeSu2 is the same so I'm going to play that on Easy as well
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>>150464637
>having a level 23 demon
>by Belzaboul Day 7
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>>150464673
It's like if you sucked dick on a daily basis, but suddenly you started to worry that taking the dick up your ass might be too gay.

Just go for it if playing on EZ is up your alley. But I want to advice you that doing a run in DeSu with minimal or zero Free Battles is doable as long as you don't cocky and you are gud at fusing.
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smtiv fucking sucks dick
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>>150465431
this is a hot new meme
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>>150465543
no the game is bad. why the fuck did they put it on the 3DS
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>>150465693
Because no one would have bought it on the Vita
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>>150464487
That's cool. I'm just pulling your leg.

I did that too, but I got Law ending first. Turns out you can still 100% asap with Law ending first. You just have to side with Jonathan before going to the Yamato Reactor, because siding with him puts you in a sort of psuedo-Law route, which unlocks the Seraph quest while keeping you open for the Neutral or White route.

>>150464673
Speaking of DeSu difficulty, anyone know how to change the difficulty in overclocked on a NG+, or is that impossible?
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The fuck!? 4chan ate my essay of a post.

Fuck everything
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>>150465281
Out of the 24 demons you can hold, about 16 of mine are crappy fodder demons
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>>150464580
>just avoid picking the silly choices during serious moments
That's half the fun of the game
Guess I won't worry about it until NG+
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>>150290970
It's fucking hard! I've been too busy to play much lately, but am swimming in play coins.

Just limped through the boss in the frozen warehouse by getting all my demons drunk so they would actually do support skills and cowered behind Goblin while he chipped away the boss' health.

Since the MC and Nemissa can't fight, I can't level up with random encounters thanks to these weak insubordinate shits.

Just got my Zeed though and am pumping him full of nemechi fodder, looks like he's got max loyalty by default so that should help a lot.
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>>150465286
>zero Free Battles is doable as long as you don't cocky and you are gud at fusing.
I always thought of it as something to aim for in Ng+ because you can carry over macca among other things
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>>150465880
>anyone know how to change the difficulty in overclocked on a NG+, or is that impossible?

Impossible, you'll always be on Normal

On the bright side, the exp penalty is limited so you'll never have reduced exp for fighting things 5 levels under you
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>>150465880
Which version of NG+ did you do?
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>>150462310
>>150462307
>two seconds apart
4Chan really is a hive mind.
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>The first Bel you fight looks omnipotent and refined
>The second Bel looks like some cartoony devil
>The third Bel you fight is literally Beelzebub who's a giant bug
>Game has been hyping up Belberith the whole time
>He's finally revealed
He's some ugly mishmash of things with spider legs

WHO DESIGNED THIS CRAP

Also

>infinite attack range
why
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>>150464673
>>150464849

>grinding on DeSu

What the fuck? I beat it on normal, New Game, Naoya's route, while fighting like a dozen free battles across all eight days. Step your game up, man.
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>>150469887

He has like two health. If you rush his ass and HOLY DANCE he'll gone down in one turn.
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>>150469887
And then the demons wrapped around the body are other defeated Bels
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>>150470116
Did you do 8th day?
Because OP MC isn't enough for 8th day
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>>150469887
Devil speed phantasm over to him and play some funky music
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>>150470549

>across all eight days

And while Metatron was a fucking cunt, my MC was literally the only one who could damage him more than he could heal, so an OP MC was the ONLY thing that was enough for my eighth day.
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>>150470791

To add onto this: I find the only guys who really need to grind are retards who focus the center of enemy teams and get halved XP/Macca then complain about being short on XP/Macca later.
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>>150470791
Ah
I couldnt get passed the "saved these spaced out Tamers from 3 separate groups of angels" with just my MC
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>>150470943

Oh, that was a total bitch, yeah. I had some solid members in Atsuro (who is usually a monster) and Naoya (to heal the civvies) so I was able to handle that event by the skin of my teeth.
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>>150470941
Nah I always got full macca/experience
Just doesn't seem to be enough macca for more than 2 up to date demons at a time without an occasional free battle
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>>150471165

>more than 2 up to date demons

I think this is where we differ. When I played the game, most of my demons were woefully out of date and usually just support for the center. I mean, I beat it fine without grinding like that, but if you're trying for actual competent demons I can see how the game could get grindy.

I was just surprised to go online and hear about how "grindy" DeSu was when I barely ever grinded in the game.
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Jesus christ polaris gotta be the most bullshit boss in a megaten game ever, it one shots any demon without repel phys.
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>King Kenji in SMT IV

The first half of that fight was par for the course, but then he goes fucking nuclear and inflicts literally every status ailment on me. How low is his health at this point of the fight, lads? Do I have to fight Nuclear-Kenji for quite a bit?
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>>150471448
That's not Demi-Fiend in DDS1.

Anyway Polaris's 3rd form can be pretty tough, but Repel Phys is so cheesy and so easy to slap on that you can trivialize the fight with the right demons.
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>>150471394
Makes sense
It was a bit of a chore trying to feed experience to characters other than mr.mc so while he's 60+ atsuro is hovering at like 50
After I beat DeSu 2 I'll go back and try NG+ your way in DeSu
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>>150469887
Kaneko designed all of the Bel demons. I think Belberith is pretty cool. Anyway, you're supposed to bumrush him before he can whittle you down. If you're having this much trouble with Belberith, I hope you didn't go with Gin, Naoya, or Amane.
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>>150471651

>raise my Hit/Evade rate to maximum
>lower Kenji's Hit/Evade rate to minimum
>he doesn't miss once

Uh, is there any damn point to debuffing someone's hit/evade rate?
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>>150473034
Not on SMT IV
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Alright lads now I'm upset. It's gotten to the point where I can get the fucker to go nuclear within TWO fucking turns and then the next turn he just wipes my entire party but, maybe, one.

Who the fuck decided that a boss should have such a large difficulty spike mid-fight, dammit?
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>>150474349
I'd really like to help you but it's been so long since I played SMT4 I don't even remember what I did for that fight.
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>>150474349
Fuse Alice.
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Is it me or is DeSu's combat really repetitive?

I played SMT4 for 80 hours and got an ending and I never once felt burnt out or wanted to stop. But 50 hours in DeSu1 (In the middle of Day 7) I'm just getting kind of sick of it
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>>150474349

I notice that Kenji doesn't null Dark... there's no way I can use something like a Dark instakill spell on him and it actually work, right?
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>>150475363
I got bored of IV within 3 hours but I can't count the times I've replayed DeSu
Different strokes
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FUCK YOU KENJI YOU FAKING FUCK

SAY HI TO ISSACHAR FOR ME IN HELL
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>>150476886

Alright boys, here comes the alignment lock.

Neutral route, neutral route, neutral route, come on, dammit...
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>>150477183
Chaos.
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>>150477238

>the Law of God, the Temptation of Demons, the blahblahblah of the White, you turned them all down and chose your own path

FUCK YES I DID NIGGA
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>>150474349
just reflect scum m8. he's the last boss you can do it anyway after alignment lock the bosses will almighty you into oblivion if you that.
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>>150477426
Time to tensei the shin megami.
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>>150478231
>reflect scum
Pathetic.
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>>150479078
King Kenji is pathetic, so he deserves it.
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Try not to die through the night.
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Hoy.
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>>150453101
That moment gave me chills.
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>>150453101
>>150453338
>tfw this was the moment you realize Akira and Aquila are one and the same
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>>150475363
Got 80+ hours on DeSu OC and 100+ hours on IV. They're completely different genre of games but fun nonetheless.
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SMT x Mario
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>>150486710
>tfw best multi-striker is also best girl
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Hoy.
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Hoy
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Behold! My Demons
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Mudo.
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>>150503161
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