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Dad friendly edition

>Where do i buy x module/weapon for my ship?
High-tech systems have the best inventory, look there. The more population the better.

>Where the fuck can I find materials for engineers?
http://inara.cz/galaxy-components

>What's this RES you guys talk about?
Resource Extraction site. spawns pirates and space cops that shoot each other. HAZRES in best left until you have a Vulture or better.

>Pilots Guide:
https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php?t=34437&p=664610&viewfull=1#post664610

>Steam Group (post your commander info in the announcement so we can add you)
http://steamcommunity.com/groups/dangerousgeneral

>Change HUD color:
http://www.pcgamer.com/how-to-change-the-colour-of-your-ships-hud-in-elite-dangerous/
http://arkku.com/elite/hud_editor/

>Markets Tools:
http://eddb.io/trade/loops
http://www.elitetradingtool.co.uk/

>Ship discounts (report these as you find them)
All systems exploited by Li Yong-Rui have a discount on ships and outfits for example:
NU TAURI - Parmitano Terminal
BD+28 413 - Gunn Station

>Horizons? Engineers? What?
Horizons DLC added planetary landings, explore planets with the blue icon and gather materials for special boosts, ammunition or Engineer upgrades that modify your ship modules.
>List of Engineers & blueprints:
http://inara.cz/galaxy-blueprints
http://inara.cz/galaxy-engineers

>Test your ships before you buy:
http://www.edshipyard.com/
https://coriolis.io/

>/edg/ faction stuff from the previous thread:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1rDxVVfavgiEdr9CbNS51j9wYHpXyz25H7uu7O6TeDzA/edit#gid=0

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Fingers crossed this thread stays faggot free
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>>149487550

http://www.strawpoll.me/10823901

although I am probably going to get the cutter I am curious to see which ship /edg/ will prefer
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>>149487782
[spoiled]already failed[/spoiler]
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>>149488317
I can clearly see that
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>>149488317
this is some advanced shitposting
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>>149488381
and adder is the space honda
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>>149487987
voted
>kill self
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>>149488864
been there
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Reminder.
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>More and more photos and footage of No Man's Sky leaks
>The more that leaks the worse it looks

Braben and Co have absolutely nothing to worry about. Anyone who leaves will be right back.
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I CONSIGN YOUR REMAINS TO THE VOID.
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>>149492749
The lack of multiplayer already kinda killed NMS for me. It might be kinda fun for like 10-20 hours, but it won't replace the VISION for me just yet.

save us from this hell, roberts
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>>149493740
I'm gonna still play it. Won't buy it But I want something where I can easily lean back, grab a gamepad and do nothing intensive. I agree. They've failed hard on the lack of multiplayer. Even just offering a simple p2p ability to connect friends would have been enough.
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>>149492749
Quality Sony product.
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I just bought the game and I have 4 modular terminals but I have no idea how to use them
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>>149492749
I was saying it right from the start, the moment I watched first video of a guy talking about game's vision. This game will get old withing week or two and you literally have to be an autist to play it for longer. Just like Elite
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>ed is glorified "look at procgen planets while driving a truck"
>nms is glorified "look at procgen animals on procgen planets"
>sc is glorified "look at pyramid scheme and weep"
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Mouse + KB , Controller or Joystick for this game?
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>>149487987
>no Anaconda

idiot
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>>149497629
Anaconda is for weak minded, visionless scum who are not enlightened enough to grind fed/emp rank.
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>>149497545
mouse+KB

controller robs you of either one axis or one thruster axis and joystick is dad tier. The only way to justify it is dual joysticks for permanent FAOFF PVP pwnage
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>>149497545
MKB easily competes with joystick. Joystick is for immersion only.
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>>149497952
>>149497953
Thanks guys. I can't get to steam right now, roughly how big is the Elite Dangerous (no DLC) download?

Just a ballpark figure if you could, please.
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>>149498265
6 gigs or so. Are you just buying the game now? You should wait for a sale. That's when it's more "worth it".
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>>149497545
m+kb is fine, hotas is for muh immershun, even though dad memers will argue that it's objectively better (it isn't)

haven't played with a controller, can't comment on that
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>>149498265
my EDH folder is 16.6 gigs

seriously tho don't do it
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>>149498506
You're saying EDH is a bad game?
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>>149498573
dude just read the thread and the thread before that

it's grindy as fuck, there's absolutely no MMO features (no clans, crafting but no storage, no group content, etc), and the vocal minority is all Ftroop tries to appeal to, the GenXers and boomers who played the first game in the late 80's who still hold that game as the pinnacle of gaming

if you're going in expecting pretty sights that's OK but forget about any kind of depth. All there is to do is combat, haul shit, mine or stare at loading screens while honking empty systems

powerplay is completely separate from the rest of the game, is grindy as fuck and has no incentive to play beyond "yay I did the thing" AND it's completely broken on top of that

what the steam page of the game shows you is literally false advertising
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>>149499375
Ok thanks I'm gonna go back to WoW then :^)
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>>149494975
looks like kinectimals

is this actually just an fd game in disguise
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what are the best gimbaled hardpoints combo i can put on my python?
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>get interdicted
>getting out of it
>interdiction vector warps behind me
>turn to it
>it's against a planet
>aim towards it
>starts shaking violently
>go from almost escaping to interdicted
>log out

Why is this game so fucking buggy? And why is interdiction STILL COMPLETELY FUCKING BROKEN?
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>>149500142
FD is a shit game developer. The only good advice that can be given about ED is don't bother.
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>>149500306
>>149500142
https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php/275441-Can-we-fix-the-interdiction-bugs-now?highlight=interdiction+bug


That bug was happening in fucking beta. It's absolutely unacceptable that it persists. fdev is a fucking joke.
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>>149497545
m+kb will do you fine
joystick is just as good, but dont waste money on a fancy one just for Elite
i've heard that controller is good

but you'll have to make your own conclusions on each method desu
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does this game play well on the Vive?
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>>149497545

M+KB is more precise for aiming fixed weapons or evading interdiction because a mouse is the most precise input device the game supports.

On the other hand a good stick + throttle setup will give you full analog control and provides better overall control of your ship.

For example I have a full CH setup for flight sims (stick, throttle and rudder pedals) which I'm using for ED. It gives me full analog control of all axes, throttle and even lateral thrusters via an analog microstick on the throttle. I use them constantly to stay out of firing arcs, reduce relative motion for my own fixed fire and for FA-off shenanigans.

I still use the mouse occasionally though; fighting an interdiction is like balancing on the head of a pin and I don't need to worry about thruster control in supercruise so I'll grab the mouse during those. The precision comes in really handy there.
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>>149500790
>first post is WORKS ON MY MACHINE ;)
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>>149500790
I agree frontiers is a joke. AI on expansion zones still isn't fixed, I made like 400mil over these months with barely lifting my finger, how is it not fixed yet?
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>>149492749
Yeah, all that new footage of Star Citizen, though. God damn. I keep saying "don't hype yourself, if it's good it's good, and then they go and release those beautiful ad fuvk shots. God damn it, Roberts, you had better not break my heart.
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>>149497078
Just sell them.
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>>149506453
as fuck*
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>>149506764
I'm not sure I should trust this...
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>>149508206

If you're new to the game you're not near having any use for them anyway.
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What's /edg/ thought on the vulture ?
I'm probably going to travel and find people to destroy.
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>>149509029

5/5 bretty gud
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>>149508206
By the time you have a good enough ship to use them for anything, they'll already be useless. They're a crafting material used by Engineers, but in a patch coming in the next few weeks, they'll no longer be used for any recipes. They'll only be for unlocking Marco Qwent, but that's a long way off for you. You're safe to just sell them.
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>>149497078
they're commodities for RNGneer crafting but you need a shitload of other stuff to roll shit. Just sell them.

they're gonna be retired in a few weeks anyway when they patch engineers
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>>149509029
Really good as a PvE combat ship, not so amazing for PvP. You can maybe overpower some dads who don't know how to high wake, but there are much better options for PvP.
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>>149509938
>there are much better options for PvP
which one ?
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>>149510163
FDL, hell even the FAS or the Viper III
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>>149510163

CTRL + SHIFT + ESC --> E --> DEL --> ENTER


You will be unbeatable at pvp.
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>>149510163
gunship with full multis
get them engi mods and you are the terminator
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>>149510719
you will get shadow banned if you bump into a dad though
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can I sothis run with an conda?

also, anybody have the best sothis conda build ? Cheapest, but works good.
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>>149511131

Considering the way instancing is done in this game, would you even notice?
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>>149510917
FGS is complete crap in PvP, you liar.
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>>149511336
Anaconda is ideal sothis ship.

https://coriolis.io/outfit/anaconda/0p5tnFklndksxf5--------0000------0605050504043703034301.Iw18ZlA=.Aw18ZlA=
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>>149513794
>I can't use FAOFF

full multi gunship with 6A shields two boosters and two SCBs can out tank a FDL
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>>149514247
>assumed implications

It still maneuvers like a boat compared to a kitted FAS or Vulture and will get absolutely wrecked in PvP by them with equally skilled pilots.
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>>149514247
FGS is good as fire support in a wing, but struggles 1v1 against an equally skilled pilot in a faster, more agile ship.
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why do the fed ships look like sour piss?
the only decent one is the corvette

the cheap plastic look of the imperial vessels isnt much better

devs need to work on more aesthetically pleasing spacecraft before they even think about addressing other issues
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>>149515516
I like the look of the FAS.
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>>149500142

I believe that player interdictions are even worse, as in it's impossible to actually escape one.
People have resorted to unspoken rules on interdictions because the game sure as fuck doesnt have any.
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>>149515516
Honestly this is the least important issue facing the game. Yeah, most of the ships are either really plain looking or look like toys, but there are severe issues with the core mechanics of the game.

I mean, we're over one and half years into the game, and there are still game-breaking bugs with core mechanics, and the primary gameplay loop is just repeating the same activities over and over again without any incentive aside from credits.

This game is just a complete fucking mess. Ship aesthetics come last.
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>>149515516
>>149516101

im having difficulty seeing any difference between the drop, assault and gun ships

im not trying to be a pedant, i just dont see it
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>>149498373
Has it ever gone down to 10 dollars? This is a 10 dollar game for sure.
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>>149498447
I bought the cheap hotas and its fun. I agree it isnt better. Its got its perks.
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>>149516453
i was just being flippant man, its a nitpick, nothing more
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How do you change your name?
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>>149517781
You either have to clear your save and start from scratch, or you can submit a support ticket, and if they're in a good mood they'll change your name for you.
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>>149517781
Submit a ticket to the devs, make up some sob story.
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>>149517781
Tell them youre a forum olddad and you played the shitty version of the game and you want free stuff
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Do i need to buy any DLC/Expansions to get other ships besides the starting one?
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>>149519678

No but the Cutter and Corvette are practically impossible to get now if you weren't around before to grind faction ranks.
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>>149519678
No, but you will need to sell your soul
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>>149519876
>>149520001
oh no is there like a beginner's guide to getting new ships?

did I unknowingly get myself into a different EVE
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>>149519876
It's not that bad. If you focus skimmer stacking you can do about a rank a day or so.
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>>149520921
This is way simpler (and deader) than EVE. There's a flowchart I keep forgetting to save that I'm sure another kind Anon will post.
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>>149520960
>It's not that bad
>you can do about a rank a day or so
>a day
Fucking Christ kill me now
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>>149521101

I recognise you, cunt. You always point out that there's a guide, and it's always followed by you not having. It's always you. Always. I recognise your ortography and syntax. Save the image or none of your engie rolls will be good ever again.

>>149520921

Here you go :)
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>>149521824
It both makes me feel all warm inside that my chart is still being used after all this time, and pissed off that Frontier hasn't added more ships. The fuck are they waiting for?
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>>149521824
It's an opening for another Anon to bump the thread, my friend.
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>>149516198

It's far easier to perform an interdiction against another player than it is to evade from one.

Unlike an escape vector, a tethered ship in front of you won't fly off screen faster than you can pitch, nor glitch behind you or rapidly blink in two different directions.

It's so much easier that even a Cutter can interdict anyone with pretty much zero chance of escape if they're competent.
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>>149522147

>adding more stuff to grind for when we still need actual content

I know you mean well, but no.
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what does it mean /edg/?
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>>149516823

All three have the same frame but different winglets.
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>>149516823

Dropship - multi-role
Assault Ship - vulture 2.0
Gunship - Everything in front dies, turn with FA off
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>>149522234

Just save/make a bunch of screenshots. I'm one of the autists (three of us, I think) that consistently bump the thread if it's in danger of dying. I make every new thread my start page and make a shortcut on my home screen.

I do it uuuu
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>>149522147
>The fuck are they waiting for

Season 3, when they can charge more money for new ships and then take them away again.
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>>149522326

It means that the next part of the story is either locked behind a patch, or will be conveniently revealed by a "player" on or around the release of NMS.
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>>149522639
We're forever grateful for your sacrifice, oh brave and autistic pioneer of the VISION
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>>149522147
freelancer
>start out trying a bunch of different lowbie ships because they don't cost much, and there's so much god damned variety
>spend a whole day trying out all the different ships
>try out the Defender, suddenly holy fuck, everything is melting to your ship that's crazy overpowered for low zones
>realize there are several entire tiers of ships you hadn't even seen yet
>hype and dong status: maximum erect
>every new system you enter you hope to see new ships, new factions, new everything, and you KEEP GETTING IT

meanwhile in E:D
>fuck you here's three starter ships
>fuck you all the systems act the exact same, so you can shit on a sidewinder and be shat on by an anaconda right out of the gate
>because of the arr rook same syndrome, you don't know when your ship needs to be upgraded or when you're ready to move on to a new system, and you have to buy it and hope you have the credits to outfit it and have enough left over for insurance, unless you use a bunch of third party sites because there is absolutely fuckall information in the game
>hype and dong status: maximum flaccid
>every """""new""""" system makes you want to UNINSTALL THE GOD DAMN GAME
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who else /ricewinder/ here
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>>149524142
>buying the cosmetics

for what purpose

>>149522326
Probably good guy aliens sent out a voyager-esque probably and we're going to help them (ie. grind for ships) against the thargoids. They probably reside in the massive locked off swath.
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>>149522639
How to screenshot?
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>>149522326

It means nothing.
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>>149524438
voyager-esque probe*
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>>149524142
It almost looks threatening.
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>>149524550

F10.
Alt + F10 for high-res screenshots, though this is not available in Open.

Goes into pictures -> frontier developments

CTRL + ALT + SPACE for 3rd person cam. May need enabling in options.
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>orbit line doesnt show up around brown dwarf
>man I'm getting pretty close to that
>EMERGENCY STOP LOL

FUCK YOU YOURE JUST MAD YOURE A FAILED STAR YOU PIECE OF SHIT
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>>149524012
>Move onto a new system

Another major flaw of ED. Sticking to a single system is meaningless. There's no reason to call any place home because in-system activities is basically nothing.
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>>149525003

Why get upset? Do you not have heatsinks equipped?

Wasted time, sure. thanks for bumping
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>>149524801
legitimately looks better than stock
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>>149524886
Yeah, that's getting rebound. Just like freecam got rebound to num+. Three keys is nonsense.
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post screenshots

bonus for cool rings/land formations
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>>149525268

Reminder that the extra parts have no hitbox and you could probably ram someone at 400 m/s and take no damage.
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>>149525052
Yeah, no reason to go anywhere and no reason to stay where you are is the absolute worst thing you can make a player feel.
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>>149525653
Hahahahaha. Are you fucking kidding me? Each time I think "surely, fdev cannot have made any more errors", and each time I am proven incorrect.
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why havent you modded your skybox settings yet?
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>>149526093
Because I was not aware of it being possible.

Care to elaborate?
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>>149526272
if i can find the thread again sure
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>>149526272
https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php/264270-Graphic-Tweaks-Dreamscape-Feeling-alii
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>>149527014
Thanks dude.
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>>149527287
np
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>>149526093

Any effect on framerate?
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Fer de Lance or Federal Asault?
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why can't this game just be good?
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>>149529353

How do you prefer to fight?

FDL - Jouster
FAS - Circler
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>>149528664
the amount of stars can do, but theres a limit on how high you can go anyway, it can make the core laggy while panning the camera around with thousands of stars on screen, but other than that its negligible if any
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>>149529592
and by that i mean in galaxy map, not normal gameplay
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>>149530720
>>149529592
what ship is this?
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>>149530798
its the oldhag, gets more damaged each time you make an insurance claim
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Plasma accelerator and railgun are fucking memes. Useless garbage
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>>149532119
>plasma accelerator
>useless

How?
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>>149532119
t. gimballed only dad
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>>149532290
Been testing the huge plasma on my fdl and while it does decent damage, it takes a while to recharge, I definitely do more sustained damage with 4 beams and a huge multi-cannon.
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>>149532559
What about huge multi and plasmas?
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Thinking of ganking some dads in this
https://coriolis.io/outfit/fer_de_lance/3phtfFdlidpsif31r2a2a2a2a0000020202022d2b2b2725.AwRhrSu6g===.IwBhrSu6g===

It's a silent running build, hoping to find a dad who's only using gimballed lasers
Criticisms and advice welcome
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>>149533307
>tfw not having everything A rated triggers your autism
>even though that would be retarded for silent running
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>>149532119
Git good

Those are the best weapons in the game.
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I love you /edg/. I've changed my mind. I don't want you to die.
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>>149534714
>implying
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That little tone that plays when you first start a honk is spooky
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>>149535316
What are the best, then, E:D expert?
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Question, im a newfreind to ED and im trying to rank up the federation but i seem to be at 100 percent. Do i do something specific or keep grinding missions, im trying to get to rear admiral.
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>>149536586
Go to the station you were getting fed rank from, and cycle through open/private/solo, each time checking the board's Fed aligned mission givers until a mission titled Federal Navy something something pops up, that'll be your promotion mission.
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>>149537219
That seems obtuse, can i just check any fed controlled station and do missions there til it pops up?
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>>149537697
Any fed aligned minor faction will hand out the missions, but you usually need at least a cordial rep with them to be able to take them
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>>149538084
Thx anon
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I can ruin the icourier for autistic people with one sentence

The manoeuvre square is of center with the cockpit
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>tfw you realise your everyday life resembles the one of a dad
>tfw going to work every day and when coming home you crave for something mindless
>enjoy 'roleplaying' a space pilot doing tasks for bigger things than yourself
>tfw nothing can save you anymore

I consign myself to the Vision

Fly safe CMDRs! o7
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>>149541436

>tfw going to Jacques station
>tfw >asp and only halfway there

I'm surprised there's people there already. The guys that took the MAs there must have never left.
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>>149500142
>>149500306
>>149500790
>>149516198
I've been doing Sothis and switching between modes for mission stacking, and that's been enough to prove how shit FD actually is.
Forget shitty design decision and this baby boomer bukkake fest that's going on, just look at the facts:
Just pressing Escape to get to the main menu overlay doesn't work consistently. Sometimes it appears instantly, sometimes it takes like 5 seconds to appear, sometimes nothing happens and only once you press the button again does the menu appear and instantly disappear.

How fucking incompetent do you have to be to fuck up something this simple?
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>>149544489
Duuuude, who cares about that, you can be Han Solo!
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>>149544659
Right on CMDR o7
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gonna do ranking

skimmer farming best way to go?
any place you can recommend?
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>>149544757
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>>149544489
There's no main menu in real life either. It's part of the Vision.
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is the bulletin board slow because brabo dont want us to cheese his vision?

25 seconds to get the mission list. and for fuck sake keep the mission icons in the cache dont fucking load it every time.
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>>149487550

REMINDER
REMINDER
REMINDER
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FwoXcpqp3Ew

ADD IT TO THE OP
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>>149548449
I have no idea. It seems as if the missions have to be fetched from the server, but there's no fucking reason for that to happen. It's not a shared pool. They are generated individually for each player. I can generate new ones for myself by switching between Solo/Group/Open.

I don't have a fucking clue why it takes this long. Even more baffling, though, is why the FLYING FUCK they don't do that loading EARLIER. Like, when I ask for docking permission perhaps. That'd make sense.
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>>149549384
>mfw the esc key doesnt work
send help
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>>149549616
see
>>149544489
it's a mystery
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>>149541201
you mean the two little pegs on the front of the cockpit?
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ARE YOU FUCKING KIDDING ME
I RE-INSTALLED FOR THIS?
MOTHER FUCKERS
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>>149550646
You what? That's a system status you dip.
The factions are 'making a peace solution'.
Or then the fighting continues later.
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>>149546385
fuck off with your anime
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>>149549279
Man, I had completely forgotten how much pure bullshittery that trailer was.
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>>149554158
To be fair it is more of an industry standard for the trailer to be either pre-rendered or contain a bunch of scripted events from the game to make the game seem more organic.

I no longer even watch trailers thinking the game will be anything what the trailer shows.
And that is a scary thing to feel this jaded.
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>>149554392
It would be hilarious if this happened as often with other forms of media. Movie advertises incredible battles and crazy shootouts, actual movie is two hours of an old guy monotonously telling the same incredibly boring "war" story of how he transported supplies in a truck, restarting every ten minutes.
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something fucked me up in the cz not sure what
I am talking 60 percent hull loss in 3 seconds
what kinda ship does that?
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>>149554926
btw in a battle conda
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>>149554926
>>149555012
also damage models remove your painted skin
gg frontier
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>>149555012
>battle conda
You're flying the literal Dad Mobile and wondering what fucked you up? Anything bigger than a Cobra can do that. The Conda turns as slowly as the dads that usually fly it turn in real life.
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>>149555478
what am I supposed to fly then
other ships are made out of paper

guess conda is made out of cardboard
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>>149555478
>he unironically thinks this
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>>149555657
It sounds like you don't have it kitted or upgraded. Do you have shield boosters, armor enhancers, SCBs, chaff, etc? Nothing's made out of paper when properly kitted.
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>>149556087
found the idiot in the conda that loves having turrets play the game for him
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What should I take back to sothis in my hold to maximize profits?
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>>149557168
>he uses turrets
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Shu Babassi or Wu Guinagi for rep farming the fastest?
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>>149558049
For Empire, yes. Good luck with Fed rank though. It's nigh unobtainable since 2.1
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esc key not working
bulletin boards loading forever
lost connections
and now I got a pitch black screen during combat
no errors, no warnings, no sound
just pitch black
why braben, why you have forsaken me
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>>149558049
and what do you do there?
smuggling?
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do you think that 2.2 passengers will grant us rep?
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>>149560085
no but 2.4 will be called encounters and will grant us ayy lmaos
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>>149559240
And the only problem they will address from those is that more systems get locked with a permit.
The game is perfect, don't complain CMDR, FDEV is working hard every day to bring you the best space experience. Fly Safe CMDR o7
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>>149561318
I can only imagine how broken and disappointing that will be.
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>>149565652
More interdictions.
That's all
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Lmao, looks like NMS is developed by Frontier after all.
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>>149566714
I heard it was a single seed because they wanted to limit what players could see or something.

Don't really buy that explanation, though.
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>>149562110
they might be working on fixes, but they sure like to release them one time per year
>>149565962
people think that interdicks will happen during hyperspace jumps which i doubt will happen
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what MKB bindings do you guys use for pip management?
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>>149567865
The default arrow keys.
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Mamba best ship.
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>>149569936
Fuck off, dad.
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>>149570069
Sorry whatever ship is your favorite isn't as good as the Mamba, but you should try to get over it.
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>>149570152
Mamba does not exist, pops.
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>>149570213
It exists in our hearts, Anon. You just have to believe.
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This is one Dad's VR battlestation...
I don't even know anymore.
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>>149570421
i want them to add the earlier cobras, vipers and eagles
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I was thinking about it; what is this weird phenomenon with ED and dads? The old dudes playing video games with their children used to be endearing, but these people just aren't.
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Are guided missiles still as dangerous as marshmellows?
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>>149572341
god that looks uncomfortable
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>>149572341
what the shit

just buy some planks and screws, Jesus fuck
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>>149572529
No, they're more dangerous now and can target modules. Also engimods.
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for the price we paid we should be able to choose our fucking ship livery
what the fuck
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>>149573738
For the prices paid we should not be subjected to F2P cash shops extortion bullshit, but there it is.
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>>149573983
The worst thing is that it's just bad. I mean, jesus fuck, at least give us a couple of colors for each ship. Or let us buy patterns and pick the colors ourselves. Or give us a paint brush. Anything.
Instead it's this slow, senseless trickle of FTROOP designated choices that the masses are now allowed to purchase.
It's fucking mind-boggling.
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Sleutelbos is really trying to one up Pecisk on his shilling.
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>>149574572
>food analogy

Every time.
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>>149572341
woah
how much rep did he get for this?
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>>149574572
>You look at what the developers want to do and how it is compared to that

This person is literally retarded.
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>>149572341
How does he get in? Does he pull the chair back then scoot it forward, scraping up the wood?
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>>149575738
believing analogies are good to make a point is generally retarded
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>>149575790
thats not real wood anon, who cares
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>>149577174
Scratches on a floor, regardless of type, lower the value of the house.
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>>149575790
he lifts the keyboard up
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>>149567865
I have em on 1-4 so they're right next to my hand

1 - sys, 2 - eng, 3 - wep, 4 - balanced
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>>149577758
considering he has attempted to construct a cockpit out of boxes and papier mache, i doubt his house -if he even owns it- had much value to begin with.

i see your point, i just think its a shit one.
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Here is my setup CMDR's o7
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>>149579853
Lmao, I know what exactly you are doing. Doing the same atm.
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STOP TAUNTING ME BRABEN
I only became a lord, but it got me hyped up bad
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>>149572529
They buffed missiles. I learned the hard way.
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>>149580047
>Congratulations, you've ranked up to ___. You can now visit a system that has nothing in it. Also you can now pay more money to have some ships. Enjoy!
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>>149580730
Lord gets nothing though
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>>149580047
Yeah, got promoted to warrant officer and it gave me a blank message saying I was promoted to rear admiral.

Can't even fix simple shit like that, man.

You know, if they announced an optional subscription service with the express purpose of using those funds to fix bugs, and made themselves contractually obligated to that effect, I would consider subbing. Because as it stands nothing is getting fixed, their spaghetti code continues to tangle, and all they do is continue working on the next $60 expansion full of nothing.

Okay, I wouldn't, but leagues of forumdads totally would.
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Can someone explain me how do i rank up on the federation? I was 100% recruit a few days ago and i got a message that i was now cadet but it still said i was recruit on my computer. Then i got another message saying i was midshipman and then a day later i saw my rank was cadet.

I thought there was promotion missions or something like that, I dont understand shit.
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>>149581560
I think half of both empire and federation ranks gets you nothing. Constantly talking about how underdeveloped and incomplete nearly every feature of this game is depressing
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>>149582116
I think this game might finally start getting good around the time SC fully releases. But probably not.
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>>149579984
>>149579853
Is it spoonfeeding to ask for a guide on how to do this? I havent ever touched powerplay and all i know is they need to have some kind of powerplay based combat zone in a tab, or else there is nothing doing
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I make about 18% progress in rank per round trip at lord

this isnt going to last right?
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>>149583842
It will. There's no curve.
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>>149583234
>get a ship with most hard points available, Python is more than fine
>outfit all hard points to turreted burst lasers
>max out fuel tank in optional modules
>pledge to Lavigny-Duval
>go to her power play tab and go to expansions
>select one of the systems that she is expanding on and fly there
>find crime sweep in navigation, go there
>park right in the middle and make your ship pitch all the time, like pic related
>make sure that your turrets are set to fire at will
>put max pips in weapons and rest in shields
>leave the game like this over night
>at 10k merits go to ASL controlled system and hand in merits before Thursday morning gmt
I usually get 20k merits in case she's not expanding next cycle, or I forget to do this, and grantee myself two weeks of rank 5. If you do this now your 50mil payout will one be on next next thusday.
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>>149584490
kek, ftroop still havet fixed that?

maybe I should do some before 2.2 hits
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>>149583842
>18% progress per round trip

How far is each round trip? That's potentially good compared to the donation spam I sat through.
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>>149584689
>fdev
>fixing anything
>ever

Shit just gets more broken, man. I can't think of a single thing they've actually fixed. That interdiction flipping out bug is still in the game, and it's been here since beta.
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>>149585243
a single 11.72LY jump, total less than 1k Ls
you need horizons
I am also making a sweet ~1M per round trip
see >>149558049
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>>149585847
I have horizons I bought it with that extra 15% discount during summer sale and I've regretted it. If you plan on going past Duke, give us an update on your progress. I'm curious to know if it's an easy way to get to King or whatever final is.
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>>149544489
Server state not us ;^)
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>>149586228
I only want the cutter rank for now
right now sitting at 48% lord
going to do a round trip, after the post
I will post the results
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>>149586713
>I only want the cutter rank for now

I don't blame you. At one point I thought of getting to Admiral and King respectively because I thought that they would implement some significant content to accompany those ranks in the future. Obviously I stopped thinking like this a long time ago.
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>>149586713
done
sorry for the low res, I got a spare monitor to multitask elite

its a whooping 19% gain
got sloppy at the end, missed the 6 seconds mark and got interdicted
money wise I kept my balance since I got about 1.5M donation missions pop up during re rolls
i could have gotten 5 minutes better If I was really focused and not prepared this post

and also docking computer on planet is a life saver
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>>149589240
That's not half bad. Though I suspect that will be down to 5% at most when you get closer to Duke.
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>>149589521
thats what I feared, quoting a dad " Marquis and it takes around 3 missions per 1%"
vision guide me
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Space trucking.
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Apparently some players will get together and travel to jackes station on august 15th. Do we have any plans to crash their party?
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>>149592418
They're all going to stay in private group until they land like the pussies they are, so there's not really any point.
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Post the best FDL build now.
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>>149592785
https://coriolis.io/outfit/fer_de_lance/0pktfFalidpsif30wPhPhPhPh02000404--4a5d2b--.Iw18aQ==.Aw18aQ==?bn=Itano%20Circus
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>>149592905
>1 beam 4 pack hounds
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>>149592905
Will it take long to reach rank 3 with the asian jew? Are those missiles really worth it?
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How do I get good with fixed weapons?
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>>149593275
rank 3 is 750 merits it's piss easy to get: either 30 powerplay kills or haul 750 tons of powerplay shit

problem is you need to be pledged for 4 weeks

I'm doing the 2 weeks nothing and on week 3 I grind 750 merits so in theory I'll have the pack hounds by week 4

THEN ILL PUT THEM ON EVERYTHING
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>>149593424
Practice practice practice
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>>149593424
practice. protein. practice. protein.
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This game makes me sad.
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>>149596025
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>>149596392
>let's try these VISION goggles
>I don't see anything
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>>149506453
>>149506453
>>149506453

The problem with Star Citizen is not the game itself, but the community, Its a bunch of Furry Faggots, this is why I don't play Blizzard games, I can't stand those people.
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>>149497545

I use dual sticks, for me Elite is much more comfy if you're using a flight stick.
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>>149598007
>Its a bunch of Furry Faggots

You realize E:D is no different, right? Especially on frontier forums.
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>>149584490
>>149579853

>park right in the middle and make your ship pitch all the time, like pic related


Why don't you just hit FA off and start a slow spin? No need to keep the rubber band.
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>>149598323

They're on the forums because they're attention whores but the amount of furries playing ED is much lower than SC, I try to keep distance from those people.
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>>149598663
It's probably close to equal per capita, there's far less people in the E:D community period.
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are pack-hound missiles worth for PVE? any better alternatives?
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>>149599435
They're worth it for the audiovisual aesthetics.
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>>149599435
You want longevity for PvE. Lasers, multicannons, PAs, and cannons are all popular PvE weapons because they have high ammo counts, or never run out of ammo in the case of lasers.

Weapons with high burst but low ammo are more popular for PvP, like rails, missiles, and torps. PAs are also pretty good for PvP, and if you want sustained DPS with maximum shield strength, all multicannons is also bredy gud
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>>149601203
What about frag cannons?
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>>149598663
>the amount [. . .] playing ED is much lower than SC
ftfy
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>>149601319
I almost forgot those exist. Those are really strong for PvP on certain ships, just somewhat rare. You want high speed and good agility to use them well. FAS is a great ship for frags.
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>>149601203
pack hounds have 120 rounds tho

now imagine that with rank 5 high cap mags, we're talking between 180 and 240 missiles per launcher. Perfectly viable for PVE IMO
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this isn't the most efficient trade route I've encountered...
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>>149602696
Neat
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How do you make a silent ship ? I'm in a vulture right now.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QuwRgaLBddc
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>>149603814
what a faggot
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>>149602618
but don't they fire 12 shots per trigger pull?
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>>149605154
4 rounds per salvo, meaning 30 shots per launcher.
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>>149605848
Eh... that's the same total number of "shots" as railguns.
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>>149606343

Easier to hit with missiles though.
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>>149606646
Yeah, but you can pick up plasma slugs for railguns, a couple extra fuel tanks, and have waaay more ammo
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>daddit
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>>149606780

>"pick up" an engie weapon effect

I see what you mean, but no.
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>>149606989
the dad sat down and they build the cockpit around him
amazing
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>>149607397
I wouldn't do it now, but it'll be much easier with 2.1.05
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>>149606989
>center stick
>x52
>no pedals
>no trackir
>non-identical monitors
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>try out some bounty hunting
>gimballed laser goes off course
>tags a fed ship that flew in front of me
>400cr bounty
>immediately gang raped
>blown up

Ok my fault I guess

>bought back and shit, head out to a RES with a couple friends
>notice that 6 or so feds are shooting a FDL
>sweet
>start scanning
>shoot half a second too early
>everyone stops what they're doing to kill me with my small bounty instead of the 250k fdl that they were previously fucking up
>blown up

Fine again, I guess I can't just assume the guy all the feds are shooting has a bounty

>decide to do some missions instead of RES shit
>pick up a couple low level combat missions
>load up
>see the checkpoint, all right, can't fuck this one up
>Drop in, literally the first thing I see is some guy named cheeseball boosting directly into me and exploding, I've maybe been in the instance for a literal half a second
>6k bounty, fed ships gang rape me, I get blown up

Is this for real? I don't know what to fucking expect from this game anymore. Does fed just exist to keep the small guys down?
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>>149606989
Plebbit
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>>149607937
git gud spud
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>>149606989
>center stick
>CENTER
>STICK
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So when did the FGS lose it's god-tier supercruise mobility?
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>>149607937

Having to scan a ship that is clearly a pirate is an arbitrary limitation, which makes no sense to me. Does my ship's computer alert the authorities if I shoot before I clear the scan? Why the fuck does it do that? Here is where I'd love for them to be creative with engineers and make an upgrade that removes this retarded constraint and if a ship has a bounty, then it has a fucking bounty and I can help my wingmate kill it without having to finish a scan that serves no purpose other than to frustrate the player.

Dont post this on the forums unless you want to be swarmed with dads rationalizing this shit as trigger discipline.
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>>149603814
>I intended to ask what you can do, but because there I'd so little to do, we ended up talking about random science shit for two hours

l o l
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>>149601803
Are frag cannons good for PvE in the same configuration? I was interested in the double shot upgrade.
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>>149607842
>hating on the X52

I like how loose it is.
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>>149608798

Holy shit you weren't kidding.

https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php/256226-Shot-dead-for-a-400-credit-bounty?p=3971855
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>>149611714
In short bursts. They don't have a lot of ammo so they don't last very long for grinding RES/CZ.
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>>149611903
If you want loose, may as well go CH and not get a shitty stick with mediocre ergonomics.
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>>149612126
I though they had inf ammo at the moment?
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>>149612128
Could I talk you into linking one?
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>>149607842
>implying there's anything wrong with his setup apart
>even the monitors
Dumb weebshit.
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>>149612115
Reading those replies is sickening.
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>>149612128
>may as well pay the same money you gave for a saitek hotas to get a single stick
You're retarded.
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>>149608798
I would prefer if there was some kind of non-lethal option that system police could use to force you to pay the fine for accidental fire.

>cops see low level bounty
>they drop your shields using standard weapons
>attach some kind of lockdown limpet to your hull
>they tow you to the station where you were fined

Or, alternatively, some kind of "submit to arrest" option for stupid shit like this.
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>>149612515
Yeah, but that bug probably isn't long for this VISION. A patch is coming in the next couple weeks, I'd be surprised if they didn't fix it then.
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>>149613082
>not buying a used ch for around $80
Sure if you're buying it new you're dumb, but you're the one buying a shitty stick that will likely come DOA.
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>>149613613
Read again, dumbass.
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>>149613324
Yes to the very last thing you said. Do it like ED 209.

"Retract your hardpoints. You have ten seconds to comply."
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>>149613508
Still gon' do it. When the patch hits it'll be way easier to fully upgrade multis or whatever I go with anyways, no reason not to have some shorty fun while I can.

Also when has fdev ever actually fixed anything?
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>>149614135
shorty = shotty*

Fucking autocorrect.
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>>149613508
>A patch is coming in the next couple weeks

No, the announcement for the date of the patch being implemented is coming in the next couple weeks. Don't let fdev's word dickery trick you.
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>>149614708

>Don't let fdev's word trickery dick you.

Fixed o7
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>>149613508
>>149614135
>>149614708
>>149615678
The patch will hit 1 or 2 days before NMS release. Wanna bet? 12th of August is when they are going to lose most of their fanbase of explorers.
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>>149612115 #

>hmmm yes yes yes you could do so much better I am sure...

>But wait... this is the continuation of a movie franchise that was started in the 80's... hmmm.... Yup you go make a sci fi horror comedy plot that renders the criticisms you lay at the feet of Feig null and void and then do a kickstarter to turn that plot into a movie, I am certain you will be a millionaire, surely you are onto something and must have the abilities to produce something so superior to what we have here in Ghostbusters right...

>hmmm yes yes yes you could do so much better I am sure...

>But wait... this is the continuation of a football team that was started in the 1870's... hmmm.... Yup you go make a world cup strategy that renders the criticisms you lay at the feet of Hodgson null and void and then do a kickstarter to turn that strategy into a cup win, I am certain you will be a millionaire, surely you are onto something and must have the abilities to produce something so superior to what we have here in English national football team right...

This just in: If you are not yourself a distinguished expert on the subject on which you are criticising someone, your complaints are automatically invalid even if factually correct!

I hate this meme in all its iterations
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>>149613873
I could get behind that. Beats the hell out of futilely trying to jump out while under fire from a half dozen mad cops so that I can run away and pay my fine.
>>
>>149617060
And it will break EVERYTHING because they're rushing it. Can't wait for exploits.
>>
Why do I play solo-mode?
That's easy...
I play ED with my son. He doesn't know how to dog-fight or even fly very well. It's very amusing to even watch him land at a starport. I go and grab some popcorn and a beer and enjoy the free comedy.

All kidding aside, I like playing ED with my son. Being a disabled vet, there are somethings I can not do right yet...working on it...but this I can do now...it works. So I like it.

Sure, we could play another game, but this has the aspects of game-play we like...so we play it. Better yet, we even have an option to play together.

That might not be someone elses answer, but that's why I play Solo.
>>
>halfway to Jaques

I've made a mistake.
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>>149622369
I hope you brought lotsa UAs.
>>
Im going to buy a python with only 60 million credits, am I going to uninstall?
>>
>>149622469

Is it even possible to haul UA's that far?
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>>149622369
>tfw 21k light years from Jaques
Why?
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>>149622687
I bought it anyway, I love it.
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>>149622687
>Im going to buy a python with only 60 million credits
how do i make the big moneys like you?
I'm still just running around doing 30k missions
>>
>ram ship into landable planet
>spin out from sc 70km from base
>turn of thrusters, just gonna terminal velocity down to the base
>go take a piss
>come back to rebuy screen


ooops
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>>149627794
Get people to allied, they'll give you lots of money.
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>>149627794
>>149627794
i did lowres with sidey, highres with cobra, hazres with vulture, then sothis smuggling with an asp. Thats over the course of 6 months on and off though
>>
>get interdicted by some iEagle
>spend the next 15 minutes trying to ram him with my mines only Robigo Aspie

Got very close on a couple of swipe but just couldn't manage it.
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So, if I'm understanding this right, if I get the engineer special "autoreload" on my multis, I can fire indefinitely?
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fuckin

does horizons come with the base game or not
im so confused
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>>149638327
Nope
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How can I tell who is an NPC and who is a live player?

Nobody uses the local chat so I'm not sure if I've even seen another person or not.
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>>149639259

Players will show up as hollow squares on your radar instead of filled in squares.
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>>149639259

>it's gotten to the point that people dont know what the player icon looks like because they go days without seeing another human
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>>149602696

For someone so isolated and in desperate need of supplies, Jacques doesn't pay all that well.
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>>149613082

Not that guy, but CH equipment is god tier and will probably outlive you.
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>>149634270

Autoloaders move ammo from your magazine into the weapon at a fixed rate, but it's slower than the fire rate so you still have to take firing breaks.

The upside is that you never start a fight with only a couple rounds in the weapon.
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>>149643610
I'm a fan of CH as well, they are comfortable for the price, but my CH stick and throttle lasted equally as long as my Saitek setup: 2 years.

I really suggest if you know you want to use HOTAS to just save up to a Warthog or get a VKB stick and CH throttle.
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GOD
I JUST GOT MY CONDA

WHAT THE FUCK DO I DO IN THIS GAME ANYMORE

I THOUGHT
I THOUGHT
THERE WAS MORE SHIT TO DO

it's like a big curtain
revealing the prize I've been waiting all along
suddenly, it turns out,
there was nothing there all along.

holy shit, I'm so bored now. Should I grind rep now and get a corvette?
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>>149644157

Conda is a really nice mining ship. I don't get why people grind to an Anaconda, it's the worst thing you can do. Nothing changes when you get an Anaconda, you just can trade more volume. It's not even the best for combat anymore since the AI can glue itself to your fat ass.
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>>149643941

It'd be a real shame if their quality has declined that much. My CH fighterstick (gameport) withstood around 6 years of heavy use followed by over a dozen more years stored in a box in a garage before being reused for a retro gaming PC (Xwing/Tie Fighter, Mechwarrior, Earthsiege, etc). The only maintenance it needed was reapplying grease so the stick doesn't cause the trims to move with it.

Surprised it didn't need the pots replaced, but they use crimp terminals inside the stick like on arcade gear to hook everything up so it'd be a trivial thing to do anyway.
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>>149644673
It really could be that I've had bad luck with my sticks. I've owned two CHs and two Saiteks and they've all lasted the same time of around two years.
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>>149644673
>CH fighterstick

CH F-16 Combat Stick, rather. Just double-checked. Model# FSP863D0

>>149645008

What was the mode of failure? Did they all break in the same way? I've heard of CH sticks developing quirks but they were typically easy to correct.
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stuck in witchspace wat do
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>>149645271
fight aliums
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>>149645337
how do i shot thorgis
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>>149645271
I had this happen once
Just open task manager and end task
You'll probably get a crash report after
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>>149645462
The ship is holding you back, you need to walk out there
Pierce the glass, pierce the heavens
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>>149525653
>no hitbox
>can ram with said non-hitbox
pfew lad, that is quite dumb desu
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>>149645235
My CH sticks (Combatsticks both): stopped registering any movement of the stick. I tried greasing the gimbal and checking that there were no connection issues but nothing helped.

The Saiteks started adding extra movement and the throttle stopped working.

The only 'dirt' that could've gotten inside the stick is dust cause I don't eat by computer. Oh well, currently rocking the incredibly cheap feeling X-55 and it's worked for 1.5 years now. Waiting with impatience to see what happens.

>>149645271
Ctrl Shift Esc. Happens every now and then. Especially when you have a timed mission and you have 3 minutes to get to the station from the star.

>>149645609
He is right. They are part of the model, but shooting to those parts deals no damage to the ship. So if you manage to ram someone with them (points to you, though) only your target registers the hit.
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>>149645590
I HAVE SEEN THE VISION
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>>149645609

The ship kit parts are effectively not there. Shots and other ships pass through them but can still hit your actual hull. You'll still take normal damage in a ram.

>>149645721
>stopped registering any movement of the stick

Did the buttons still work? Pot or wiring failure is highly unlikely to impact both axes simultaneously due to the way it's constructed. Having the whole stick suddenly go dead sounds more like something managed to fry an IC, like from static discharge or a dodgy USB port or hub.
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>>149646261
Nothing worked on the other stick, and the other one lost it's X-axis.
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I burned through nearly 250 mil to get from Petty Officer to Post Captain. Knows Braben no mercy?
I'm grinding Sothis in order to grind donations that will enable me to grind mats for the RNGineers to upgrade my Corvette.
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>>149644157
wew lad, only if you start grinding faction rank will you know the real grind. The curtain-effect you describe is even worse after you've grinded for creds AND rank...
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haha, time for the daily rep grind CMDRs
kill me
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>>149646803
draconis?
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>>149650525
That's long gone.
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>>149651068
Then where the fuck is this asshole dumping creds for fed rank?
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>>149652621
>>149651068
17 Drac, yes. Only taking donation missions from 25k-575k. It's still there, but it costs a whole lot more. Corvette is in sight though. Before this weekend I've got Rear Admiral.

Another good spot is Tun, not for donations, but for stacking data missions. Granted, it takes nearly 20 minutes to get a stack of 20 of them, but it works. Though not as fast as 17 Drac.
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any systems like Tun but with combat missions to gain fast ranks in the federation? I'm tired of being a courier.
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hey if a player has the Lawless tag, can i kill them with impunity?
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I got a tip off message linking to a crash site 230LY away
worth it or should I keep grinding?
>>
>>149654459
You can.
Killing high-ranked lawless miners in anarchy HAZres is the best combat rank grind there is.
>>
I just got back into PC gaming after a 5 year absence and I bought this because it looked sweet. Does anyone have VR experience with it?
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>accepting missions now takes 8 seconds
how can I improve this?
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>>149656002
That's a good idea to collect engi materials that drop from cargo ships, thanks man.
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>>149656057
>I just got back into PC gaming after a 5 year absence and I bought this

You poor bastard
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>>149656057
Yes.
It's better than any gaming related experience I've ever had. It's so fantastic and immersive I cannot really explain it, you just have to experience it to understand.
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wow, sothis/ceos is really nice

i feel really dumb about my first 70 hours bulk trading
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>>149657579
At least you didn't bulk trade 150 hours like I did.
I got to 700mil in trade profits doing bulk trading.
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>>149656154
It's horrible, opening the mission board takes a fucking lot of time.
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>>149657960
>>149656154
The worst part is that this wasn't even an issue until ftroop tried to fix the mode switching.

Or then this is their solution... To make everyone always just have to wait so that mode switching becomes more tedious. I wouldn't put it past them as this solution is easy to make and punishes the minmaxers.
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>>149657108
I had credit on Steam and I figured I'd give it a shot. What's wrong with it?

>>149657278
I tried out the PSVR version of EVE and thought it was really cool so I figure this would look just as good, if not better, on my PC with Oculus Rift.
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>>149658348
enjoy your vision
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>>149658348
>What's wrong with it?

It's a shallow experience that's all flash and no substance.

If you don't have unending reserves of autism you're not going to enjoy your time playing Elite.
>>
Are we actually gonna die??
At least made it past 200 posts again.

I'm so happy /edg/ can live again.
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>>149639259
Hollow square, name always preceded by CMDR.
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>>149660872
>live again
it's more like we're a very old man
we shit ourselves constantly, we move slowly, and everyday we live with the crushing fear that we will die tomorrow, which is ever more likely.
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>>149662098
decided to do a tip off since fuck all to do
gone to EXACT coordinates
checked 3 nearby sources
drove around for hours
fucking nothing
shits broken like the rest of the game

tip of the day, dont do tip offs.
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>>149662436
b-but why reply to me anon?
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>>149662758
Why the fuck not?
To bump the thread.
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>>149662821
a-are you trying to hit on me?
i-i have a girlfriend
>>
Just bought Python skins cause I thought it looked nice in white, am I a dad?
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>>149663161
Yes.
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>>149663161
already got you a grill for Father's Day
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>>149663161
>am I a dad
Much worse than this.
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>>149663028
I am sorry anon but my heath is already taken
forgot to delete the quote
sorry
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>>149663161
got rice bitch? got rice? got luck everytime you roll the dice?
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>>149664590
Stop taunting me, soon I spend money on that rice kit.
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>>149665169
i just wished they worked on more ships/atleast had more out for more ships

vulture would be an excellent choice, lots of blank space to work with
same with the courier and diamondbacks
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>>149663564
>>149663909
>>149664314
>>149664590
I call it the USS whitesnake while I RP and blast hair metal
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>>149665328
Gaaaay!
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>>149663161
Enjoy your 8 hours of glory in your white python before you grow bored of it and sell it for a Conda.
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>>149665328
Now that's pretty dad if I ever saw it.
And I even have a regular job and a woman.
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>>149607842

>non-identical monitors

They make me feel like a 90's hacker.
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>>149665486
That was the worst decision in my ed life. Conda sucks.
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>>149662436
They are there. You're looking for a POI and the wreck is an intact ship that's dug a long black streak into the land.
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>>149665328
gr8 b8 m8
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>>149665486
You don't need a ship bigger than a python son
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>>149663161
>>149665328
>>149665486
>>149666670

>tfw I'm the guy posting screenshots featuring the same white python in different situations

I caused this. Is this what being a shill feels like?
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>>149665814
they are static locations?
so they show up as a ship down there?
lastly since fdev so incompetent latitude is on top in the hud right?

also it was my luck the coordinates are at the dark side of the planet. So no eye balling the wreck
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>>149667074
Shill, no. Attention whore, yeah.

>>149667203
Yes, yes, and yes. There's always something to scan in them, so it'll show up as a high band signal in the SRV if you can't eyeball it.
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>>149667914
Monarch-class Adjudicator

>700,000,000cr hull
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>>149667914
that looks sexy
where is that from
>>
>>149667914
Touted as a warship, but would become another large transport.
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>>149667914
Lmao this turd looks straight from Subnautica.
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>>149668603
photoshop lmfao. take a closer look
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>>149667914
>4 huge HPs on top

hmmmmmm
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>>149669462
>Fire 4 PAs simultaneously
>'Temperature critical'
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>>149669807
>fire 4 huge cannons with force shell
>send even condas into wild spins
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>>149667914
>>149668453
>>149668659
>>149669462

Maneuverability of 1. Even the daddest of dads in his dadbra flying FA-on would be able to park behind it and plink away at its shields.

Good for bulk trading though, CMDR! o7
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>>149667914
Deployable couriers please
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>>149669881
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>>149667914
shit like this would require King rank to get
Fucking rip
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>>149670143
>he doesn't want to bully condas and corvettes
>>
best ship to cram a gorillion hull reinforcement packages and become a battering ram?
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>>149670629
Orca or FAS
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>>149670629
Orca
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>>149670803
>>149670820
excellent... perfect, thanks cmdrs :^)
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>>149671156

Great work educating those entitled milennial shit bags, CMDR! o7
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>>149671156
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>>149671156
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>>149671156
savage
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>>149671156
How the living fuck isn't your user pic banned?
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>>149667914

ith anticipation of the upcoming Battle of Merope, The Emperor has given the greenlight to allow Gutamaya to distribute and sell small Imperial Frigates to the most loyal Commanders of the Imperial Auxiliary Navy wing to aid in upcoming Galactic conflicts.
Gutamaya presents it's Monarch class Adjudicator
Complete with:
• X4 class 3 hardpoints
• X6 class 2 hardpoints
• X4 class 1 hardpoints
• X1 Fixed Rail Driver located at the bottom of the hull
• X6 class 7 shield Generators (x1 for each corresponding side of the vessel)
• X1 class 1 Hyperspace suite with maximum performance range of 168 lightyears per jump; recommended maximum of 3 jumps per hour
•X1 Class 10 Power Distributor
•X5 Fighter Bays
•X1 coffee machine
Base hull: 4400 integrity
Base mass: 8300 tons
Crew: 130
Manufacturer price: 700,000,000 Cr
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>>149671906
Probably too small to actually identify what's in it
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>>149671906
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>>149672297
wait is this actually real?
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>>149672886
Are you actually retarded?
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Put about 100 hours in over the course of a year or so. How the fuck do I get promoted. I'm sitting at 100% midshipman for the Fed but Its not ranking me up and I can't find a promotion mission anywhere. Every time I google I get outdated info and deleted threads.
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>>149673206
go from fed station to fed station and refresh MB in hopes of a rank up mission. It's taken me 2 hours to find a mission to rank up to master for empire
>>
¡Jeb!
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>>149673863
Do you still have to get friendly with all the Fed sub factions in a system or can they just all be friendly?
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>>149655141
It'll have a data point you can scan for 300-500k and a few random cans & mats.
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what is this nigger doing?
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>>149675918
get rep I mean.
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>>149676602
rep grind is more soul crushing than I anticipated
fuck this I am spent
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>>149676296
>>
dad bump
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Which is worse for 500ly travel?

More jumps but big enough scoop to only have to skim a star for a few more seconds than FSD CD

Or

Less Jumps but small fuel tank and small scoop that takes at least one revolution of a star to fill after every jump.
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>>149684296
Big scoop.
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>>149684296
More time you gotta scoop, more time in system to get interdicted.
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daddyy?
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I'm on the verge of playing this game simply for the screen shot opportunities.
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>>149689207
very quickly you'll forget about all the beauty around you and be a cockslut for credits
>>
Hey guys, I could use some advice. I've kitted out a FAS according to this: https://coriolis.io/outfit/federal_assault_ship/4pltlFglldpsgf41t1t1s1s04040404B22d2b29272o.Iw18cQ==.CwBjCZwRhTIZkfGjjCA=?bn=R%20A%20M but I'm getting wrecked even in PvE, and I'd say I'm at least decent generally. Is it meant to be used only after upgrading it all? If so, what order should I upgrade in? I'm guessing powerplant first to support everything, then dirty drive thrusters?
>>
Deddyyy
>>
>>149689773

>be a cockslut for credits

Been there, done that. 225mil in the bank. Only thing I kinda want to buy is either a Vulture or one of the Federal ships. Something with good manevourability that will be fun an effective in PvP.
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>>149692387
>Fragment cannon
son pls, go full M-cannon and try to keep your enemy at around 1km
>>
>80,000ls

just kill me desu
>>
>>149694804
Not helpful.
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>>149695028
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Is it normal that planets looks like this in system map?
how in the FUCK do i fix it?
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>>149692387
You've made your ship far too heavy for PvE, and your agility is suffering for it. Ramming is an attack of opportunity, not a primary strategy, unless you're ramming unsuspecting dads for fun.

You want to try and keep your weight at or below 50% of the "optimal mass" figure listed next to your thrusters. Every ton over that number will reduce your speed and agility. With those B-rated thrusters, your target weight is 660, but your current weight is 917, almost 40% above what you should weigh, which is severely gimping your speed/agility.

Dump all those B-rated modules, upgrade to A for everything except Life Support and Sensors, which should be D-rated to save on weight. Dump the bulkheads, that's 87 very expensive extra tons for very little benefit. Also, a class 2 fuels scoop is basically worthless. I'd trade spaces between your c4 and your c2 slot, like so:

https://coriolis.io/outfit/federal_assault_ship/0pktkFflndpsif41t1t1s1s04040404B22d32292727.Iw18cQ==.CwBjCZwRhTIZkfGjjCA=?bn=R%20A%20M

With those changes, your final weight will be 734, with a target weight of 720, which is only about 2% heavier than ideal. You'll be much faster and more maneuverable, and should find that you can suddenly maintain a close range from behind the majority of enemies, and those frags will be able to do some real work.

You're still more than heavy and well-armored enough that you can ram almost any ship and do a good amount of damage. It makes a great opening move in PvE, but I wouldn't count on it to carry fights.
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>>149695247
I wanted help about what order I should level up engineers/get engineer upgrades as I haven't touched them until now, not with loadout, is all I meant.

>>149695337
Ah, I see. I was trying to use another Anon's build, they must have modified a lot of stuff to make it viable. I'll try that instead and work on upgrades.
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>>149695906
That "heavy" build could maybe work well in PvP, if you traded out the shield boosters for heat sinks, but I wouldn't recommend it for PvE. Even with mods, a lighter build will be much easier to use and more consistent in PvE.
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>>149696140
If that's true, would it be better to just stick with a vulture for PvE? I heard the FAS was a better vulture, but did they only mean for PvP?
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>>149696693
the FAS is a better DBS: shit shields but high speed and agility. the Vulture has great shields, low speed but high agility

The only thing the FAS and Vulture have in common are the two large hardpoints
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>>149696693
I won't lie, it's impossible to beat the Vulture in terms of PvE efficiency from a "bang for your buck" perspective. The FAS is a very close second place, though. The FAS is definitely much, much better for PvP, though.

I used to farm RES all day in an FAS when I used to maintain rating 5 with Hudson during the "double double bounty vouchers" bug days, so it can definitely be done. It's kind of up to you, anon.
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>>149695259
You don't. Let the vision embrace you.
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>>149697495
Adding to this, with full engineer upgrades, almost any ship is an effectively invincible PvE machine, so just pick whichever one you like flying the most.
>>
Yo Ho Daddy-o's, It's yo boy Sean Murr-burr here.

Don't forget to hop on in to the greatest Space Exploration game, No Man's Sky, coming out in TWO WEEKS.

Ditch that crooked stale Vision, and hop out of that 'Verse, because this one's going to blow your mind!!
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>>149698005
If only this were true.
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>>149697752
>>149697495
>>149697284
Thanks for setting me straight, all.
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>>149697576
what the fuck senpai
in some system it's normal and then in some it's like the pic i posted?
is that even supposed to happen?
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>>149698870
Is it because the planets are all pinkish? That's from the color of the star they orbit.
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>>149698870
There seems to be a proplem with the game's texture data. Have you tried to turn it off and back on again ?
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>>149698196
Don't knock it until you try it, fambuccilamaboii
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>>149699418
>>149699668
i'll try later, thanks anyway
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>>149698005
http://www.pcgamer.com/no-mans-sky-10-burning-questions-answered/

>tfw when they're pushing a "blaze your own trail among 18 quintillion procedurally generated planets" narrative
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>>149700359
>they don't even get to have a VISION because it's static and SP

rip in piss
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these loading screens are killing me
8 - 10 seconds too short to shitpost, too long to stare at screen
there has to be a fix for this, do I have to switch to a britbong dns or something
>>
Anyone else refer to their ships functions as snake parts? I love saying "deploy fangs" for hardpoints or "shed skin" when i use chaff on my cobra.
>>
>>149702279

autism
>>
>>149702279
haha
>>
>>149702279
So what are you going to say when you have an eagle? Deploy Talons? Shed Feathers?
>>
>>149703725

he's going to post in the gulag about entitled kids and griefing pvp
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>>149705292
Come near my fangs I dare you but be warned; this cobra spits venom
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>>149705724

You can't possibly hope to beat my immense skill at this game, CMDR.
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>>149706659
thats a big promotion
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>>149664590
Fuck yeah I got some.

TOKYOOOO

DICK DICK DICK
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>>149702165
I watch netflix on my Vita in the dark in front of my monitor while running to ceos and back. Max Comfy
>>
>>149487550
Do i need the DLC to have an ok experience?
Are there any good offers? The game is 20 bucks on G2A and the DLC is even more expensive.
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>>149708364
You need to fuck off.
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>>149708452
are you ok? Do you need someone to talk to?
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>>149702165
But what makes Elite so compelling isn’t so much about the game as the experience. It’s the tinkering with and the taking out of a performance car for a Sunday drive, not to rack up more miles, nor to break any speed limits, but to just feel the growl of the engine and the wind comb through what’s left of your hair. To remember those carefree days arched over a BBC Micro or blinking angrily into a Lenslok and to forget for a short while that you have to make 357 people redundant in the morning. Elite is a hermetically-sealed escape capsule and it’s the best there is. Hell, you could fire the game up and just sit there on a launch pad and the sounds are enough to carry you away, so strong is your ship’s presence and so absorbing are the station surroundings.

Taking off, tearing through the station entrance a little too fast and just missing a Python, angling for the next jump, scooping fuel from a blazing sun, spinning the camera around your ship to catch its best profile, starting a fight just for the hell of it, seeing smok rise from the command console, hearing the screen crack and precious oxygen escaping into space and landing back at base with seconds to spare – these are the moments that make Elite essential. Trading, missions, mining – not so much. But it’s ok, we’re not going anywhere.
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>>149708520
see>>149708452
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>>149708364
you don't need the DLC yet, the only things it gets you are landing on planets and engineers

wait for a sale, imo
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>>149708187
I had the same idea
gonna listen some audio books tomorrow
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>774,000ls to outpost

For god's sakes why?
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For the engineers that require commodities to level up, what is the rep increase based on? Pure cost of traded good? Total profit? Station demand?

I don't care if I lose money or anything, I just want to get this done ASAP.
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>>149707509

uuuu
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is the bulkhead that important? I have a python with a 6A shield generator and I get destroyed by a Dangerous Vulture NPC. He fucked my shields and 50% of my hull in less than 10 seconds. Is this normal?
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>>149711279
please respond
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>>149710152
I went to Hutton and masturbated on the way there.
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>>149711832
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>>149712552

Milspec or GTFO.
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>>149712552
Shield boosters, man.
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>>149713286

You don't get to bring your ship.
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>>149713767
>>149713286
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>>149711279
>>149713161
anyone
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>>149714352
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>>149702165
I feel you. And I had worse lad. The last time I gave a fuck about those loadscreens I measured 15s to access the Mission tab. It's fucking unbearable.
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>>149708524
I saved this meme for my next dadposts.
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Should I
>continue to farm reputation to get a Cutter
or
>meet the rest of the engineers
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>>149716713
get the cutter so you can grind engineers in it
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How do you make a silent running build ?
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>>149718513

no beams, ever

as few lasers as possible, in fact

get a powerplant with good heat management

downgrade your thrusters
skip the shield

there's probably more but idk
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>>149718513
No sheilds, max hull reinforcements, tons of heat sinks, possibly mirrored surfaces if trolling shitters.
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>ram NPC to death
>get bounty for 5D
>jump a different system
>bounty is gone
>entirely gone
>jump back, dock at station
>log out (switching modes for missions)
>log back in
>bounty is back
>have too dump missions and leave system

T-thanks, Braben...
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>>149715735
I keep getting "failed to load marketplace" timeouts.
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>>149719841
>>have too dump missions and leave system
you stupid cunt
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>>149723676
Why? The bounty was completely gone. Like gone gone, not in my transactions, and I was allowed to dock. How is that in any way my fault?
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>>149723837
why would you dump missions and leave the system in the first place ?
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>>149723837

why would you care about a fucking bounty?

just go silent when approaching/leaving stations

if you get fully scanned just kill the process
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>>149724397
But the station turns red and tells me to fuck off when I request docking?

>>149724196
Because I can't turn them in even if I complete them, unless I want to wait five days for my bounty to go away?
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>>149724809
no and no. i have a 3 mil galaxy wide bounty on me and not a single station gives a shit
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>>149725029
I was wanted and when I requested docking they said they didn't deal with outlaws, denied my docking request, and turned hostile.
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>>149724809

then you're hostile to the governing faction, the bounty is just a side effect.

you can have a bounty on you and still dock no probs as long as you are not scanned. if they outright refuse you to dock you are hostile to the system faction that controls the station.
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>>149725472
Can that be because of the ship I killed? I was fine before, docked at the same station, and it was green.
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Is there anything worth shopping for in Sol?

High selection of parts and the like?
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>>149726425
No, Sol is exactly the same as every other system in the game
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>>149712552
>not knowing about pips into SYS

4 pips in SYS reduces incoming damage by almost 60%, you need to constantly juggle your power distribution to be good at combat in this game. Knowing when to put power into what is like half the game.

>taking damage - 4 pips into SYS
>need to maneuver/turn quickly - 4 pips into ENG
>need to unload on this guy very quickly - 4 pips into WEP
>when face-to-face, 4 into SYS and 2 into WEP
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>>149702279
Friendship drive judging
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>daddit
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>>149713252
dude same
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>>149725620

....I'm gonna spare you the sarcasm and just say yes.
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>>149727062
Follow up, do I still unlock that one system that has every part and ship when I get Elite rank?
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>>149728602

>bring your haulers

what
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>>149730268

Yes. Elite in any one category will do.
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>>149730630
>not exclusively flying a hauler
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What FOV do you you guys use?
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>>149731289

Hello, Totalbiscuit. How's your ass?
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>>149728602
Dads dont get drunk and play vidya.

Philosophers do.
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Allright i made 100mil this weekend. Upto a whopping 250mil.

Have i lost yet? I still wanna fly the fas and mine in something.
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>>149731073

I did that when the game decided to multiply one of my bounties by 10.
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I made it to Jaques. I mean 80 DD-D 774-CE-2...

>no outfitting
>no no universal cartographics

I was hoping at least one of those would be up.
Guess I'm parking here for a while.
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>>149733456

>not going back with your data and instantly leveling several engineers to max level

wew
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>>149733706

>going back

nah.
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>>149733972
>he still believes the muh new bubble meme
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>>149734187

Even if he did it'd still be illogical. FD won't do anything with the ayyliums for several months. He has more than enough time to go back, level some engies, jerk off, get some mods and go back.
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>>149734620

>I have a reason to not play this game for several months
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>>149734891

The VISION will still take you.
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Who here /ayy lmao/?
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>>149737282
Are you asking who here are extraterrestrials?

Why would aliens play a game as boring as E:D? They probably got holodecks and shit.
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>>149737883

No

Who here /thargoid/?

skreeee
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>>149739713
Nobody really cares about the aliens.
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>>149732067
You play the game how you want to enjoy it.
That's your only hope.

I have ... around 2 billion and I'm flying the Federal ships because they are fun. One for sexual assault, one for planetary shit, one for funsies and one for rekting everything.
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>>149730928
Just go turreting and you get the rank in a couple of days.
I just don't even bother outfitting my ships anywhere else besides Dadson Memorial.
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Hey, i had about 15 tons of rare items from Diso, Leesti, and Lave, but on the trip back i kept getting ridiculous heat damage from lag, and lost all but 3.
When do rare items respawn so i can go back and do it again?
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>>149743221
Every 10 minutes or something.
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>>149743221
Why... why are you still doing the rare run when sothis/ceos is available?
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>>149743325
Holy shit really? I thought it would take a day or so.
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>Even the craziest of role players are starting to hate the game and FDev

Man, this is depressing.
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>>149743540
Because I started yesterday, i dont feel comfortable going more than 300 lightyears from my spawn in Brani, and I'm too scared to do open play.
Also im still in an Adder with a max of 16 tons of cargo
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>>149743540
If he has a Hauler or something he can't really be doing Ceos/Sothis.

>>149743728
Ftroop really dropped the ball. They had everything going for this game in 2014 and man was I excited. I still do play this and enjoy it but every time I encounter a bug I just accept it with apathy.
The more I post here the more I realise how much of a dad I am...
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>>149743747
Oh, that's fair then.

Better question, why on earth did you get this game? Didn't you read the posts telling you how dead it is?
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>>149743747
Don't ever get into the grind. Enjoy your honeymoon period for as long it lasts.

Roleplay and get immersed. The best experience with this game is inside your head. Don't let Visions of Anaconda or Cutter distract you, you don't want those ships anyway.
I know this is depressing to emphasise, but this is how I love the game. All the stories I can make inside my own head.
This game is such shit.
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>>149744024
>why on earth did you get this game? Didn't you read the posts telling you how dead it is?
I bought it because it's comfy as fuck.
The past day i did nothing but missions with Brooklyn 99 playing in the background. I dont think i've ever felt this comfortable, the only thing that could make it more comfy is if i could park my ship in orbit around a planet, and explore my ship.
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>all those people on the forums acting like FA off is some kind of godly act that only IRL ace fighter pilots can pull off
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>>149744237
To be fair, it probably is that hard for dads.
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>>149744186
>The past day i did nothing but missions with Brooklyn 99 playing in the background. I dont think i've ever felt this comfortable,

I genuinely envy you your honeymoon phase. I miss mine.

>the only thing that could make it more comfy is if i could park my ship in orbit around a planet, and explore my ship.

Spacelegs are set to arrive in season three (next year), which is basically what you described.
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>>149744186
Find the hidden camera bind from the options.
You can fly a third person camera around your ship then and then take cool screenshots.
Alt-F10 takes high resolution pictures.
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>>149744237

Seriously. If you're even capable of holding the key down while turning and dont even bother with anything else you are better than like 90% of players.
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>>149744410
Because 90% of the players are around 40.
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>>149744237
>FA off
explain this to me
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>>149744186
>I don't think I've ever felt this comfortable

Enjoy it, seriously. The bugs and terrible core gameplay mechanics will wear in eventually. I remember when I first started playing. Everything was unique and interesting and seeing all the crazy stars and ringed planets was great. Encountering Coriolis stations and the three different large stations left me telling my friend on TS shit like "woah, dude, this station looks awesome"

>>149744237
I- what? Goddamn, it's as simple as pressing one key, boosting, and then turning it back off when you're facing your target. Is that a difficult concept?
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>>149744562
flight assist off

it removes the "dampeners" that steady your ship, meaning you can throw it around more easily, but with less control.

I think the default binding is Z
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>>149744562

Flight Assist off. I think the default key is Z. When you hold it, your ship doesnt make any adjustments while flying. So you can turn much faster. You're basically spinning your ship around instead of turning.
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>>149744562
There is a hidden mobility buff option in your ship called Flight Assist off. You can have a key bound for this or you can enter the mode from the functions tab.

Now your ship turns better but is harder to control. Have it as HOLD and just press it whenever turning.

>>149744642
If you get VR you will get that experience but 9001 times harder. Fuck I'm loving it.
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>>149744186
>comfortable

like >>149744404

said, take screenshots. CTRL + ALT + SPACE enables 3rd person camera

pic related
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>>149744810
>Get VR

No thanks. I'm adamantly against VR right now.
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>>149744186
>the only thing that could make it more comfy is if i could park my ship in orbit around a planet, and explore my ship.
So, No Man's Sky?
or Star Citizen?
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>>149745058

So, that game that's coming out, and the one that isnt?
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So what percentage of /edg/ would you say has gone completely forumdad?

Don't deny it. Many of you are just playing the vision because of inertia.
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>>149745119
I didnt mention Infinity Quest for Earth
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>>149745278
I embrace it. I love this game.
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>>149745363
No you're just shitposting.

Mine was a genuine question.
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>>149745278
>Haven't played the game in months
>Just shitpost and discuss what it could have been
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>>149745423
Don't try to deny it. It's true. I can't wait to get a go in my space ship every evening for a short while.
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>>149745468
>>Haven't played the game in months

Me neither. I just keep coming back to this thread to check if Ftroop have unfucked their shit.

They have not unfucked their shit.
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>>149745278

I flew to Jacques today. Gonna take a break then fly back and cash in.

>>149745468

Fuck, we really are /kspg/.
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>>149745567
Here's your (You)
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Has anyone timed how long it takes for the missions to refresh themselves at any given station?
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>>149745734
>Fuck, we really are /kspg/
No, we're not NEARLY that bad yet.
We at least have content, however meager and thinly spread it is
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>>149746012
At least Squad are trying to fix their game.

Frontier has done nothing but remove fun since the game launched.
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>>149745843
I think the official stated time is 5 minutes, but keep switching modes.
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>>149745278

I ignored my credits for a good while and did missions for a minor faction, along with killing enemy faction ships to raise my faction's influence. That was pretty fun for a bit but it wears out fast, there just isn't enough variety to really hold me down. It might be enough for a dad who has only played the old Elite and their son's console garbage but Starsector and even Rebel Galaxy have background simulations and economic systems that are more robust than Elite's. It just leaves me wanting more and I can't be assed to waste my time playing the game. The only interesting part of the game is exploring, and we'll see how NMS does and if it does well, I may end up picking it up on sale further down the road so I can finally replace Elite for good.
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>>149746132
What's up with KSP? I never followed it.
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>>149746260
Don't visit the general. If you pick the game up now you will have hundreds of hours of actual fun.
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>>149746260
Imagine you had 1 objective, and that is to build ships infinitely so you can blankly stare at them go to other planets for hours.
Like an entire game of the drive to Hutton Orbital.
Now imagine how long a vg general can survive on that amount of content without devolving like the fucking Australian Abos when they got cut off from the rest of humanity.
I'd be surprised if the people in /kspg/ actually know how to make fire at this point.
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>>149746193
I'm pinning my exploration hopes on NMS too because the mechanics in Elite are just stupid and timewastey.
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>>149744919
is it because you cant afford it or dont want to face the reality of triple monitors/trackir being a dead tech now?
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>>149744919
Why though
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>>149745278
I'll admit it. As much as I fucking hate this game and FD, I fucking love this game but not FD.
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>>149746132
>At least Squad are trying to fix their game.

Nigga. They literally handed the game off to a company that might actually be worse than them, and asked them to port it over to the fucking WiiU.
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>>149746676
>>149746724
>Can't afford it

I can easily afford it. I don't care for strapping a cumbersome monitor to my face. Not to mention the higher resolution/FPS monitors are much more impressive to me. Dat crispness, dat clarity, dat FPS goddamn
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Is the only way to rank up with the superpowers to rank up with the small factions in a system?
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>>149746843
Same here. I'll wait like 2 or 3 generations for VR to become less gimmicky, more stable, have better visual quality, and look less like a pro-virginity rally. If they still exist then, I'll pick one up.
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>>149746878
Yep
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>>149746497
Damn.
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>>149746260
>>149746341

KSP is a fun game. It's just the devs are incompetent as fuck and have basically abandoned development. They cancelled half the planned features, then added them after modders showed them how except Squad's versions are shit and just added more bugs to the game.

If you get the game cheap, you'll probably get a few hundered hours out of it and not regret the purchase since the game is now "complete" and you dont have to watch the devs cancel everything and MOVE ALL THE MODS TO FUCKING CURSE. ARE YOU KIDDING ME SQUAD? YOU HAD A GUY DEDICATED TO HOSTING ALL THE MODS FOR YOU AND YOU FIRED HIM AND USED C U R S E ARE YOU FUCKING STUPID
>>
Why do VR fans always sound like a cult?
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>>149747138
This.

KSP is one of those cases where early adopters where completely shafted but new folks are confused as to what all the fuss is about.
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>>149747159

Well, you know how the dads immerse themselves into this shit game just a little too much?
Imagine being so into it you literally try to crawl through your screen and grab the controls to your >asp
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>>149747284
It's just creepy how they go

>if only you could see the sights I have seen

Very Event Horizon. Creeps me the fuck out.
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>>149746843
ok, still playing a 2d game on a little box, youll never feel like youre in the ship, youll never have a sense of scale, or depth
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Tell me what you think. I think this would be a good ship to move to the core in and support the CG with. Only bad thing is I'd eventually run out of limpets and couldnt restock.
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>>149747617

>4 jumps

might want to drop one of those racks for a fuel tank
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Good news everyone, Planet Coaster is coming to Steam soon.

You can finally see the results of all the money you gave to Fdev.
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>>149750706
I've heard that game is actually fun.
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>>149750772
Of course, it's where the development budget went
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>>149750706

>75 dollars for alpha access
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>>149752504
They don't really grasp that you can get QA testers to provide issue tickets if you give the alpha and beta versions cheaper but oh well.
>>
Has anyone else noticed the change in general attitude towards the game since 2.1? Before that patch, you had dads defending FD left and right. Now, even the most fatherly among them seem to be admitting that the game has some serious problems. I've seen critical comments rise to the top on el reddito that would've otherwise been downvoted to death.

I think their big fuckup was the AI overhaul that came along with 2.1. I didn't mind the added difficulty, but dads sure did.

Maybe the dissatisfaction of the dads will finally give FD the kick in the ass it's been needing to fix all the glaring bugs, and maybe even get some real content into the game.
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>>149752504
How new are you, weebshit?

ED was around $150 for alpha access.
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>>149753958
Who gives a shit? Nothing will ever change.
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>>149754267
I dunno, anon, they're already overhauling engineers thanks to dads' complaining.
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>>149754526
>release a total shitfest of an update after delays for days
>super grindy rng garbage that also kills pvp
>release a bandaid patch that slightly lessens the grind almost two months later
>i-it's not that bad
No wonder this game is in the state it is, you cucks literally take it up the ass.
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>>149755171
I'm not saying engineers isn't shit, I'm just saying dads complaining made at least something happen, and it might again.
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>>149755375
I'm sorry but that's the epitome of battered wife syndrome. They can't even change a couple of values in a timely matter. That perfectly shows how much fucks they give.
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>>149755634
It would be battered wife syndrome if I was sucking FD's cock for making engineers at least somewhat less shitty, but I'm not. I'm talking about mad dads being the only ones who have a chance to make shit move at FD.

I hope FD fucks shit up even more so the only people they care to listen to will finally start admitting this game is shit and needs serious change if it's ever going to be good.
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>>149755634
>being a dick just to bump the thread

for what purpose

>>149756676
They already fucked up, instead of releasing two patches, one right away with just the value changes to mats/commodities, and another one later with all that complicated bullshit like scanners giving exact details, they decided to lump it all together and that's why the announcement for when it with come is going to be in the next couple weeks. Who fucking knows how far away it really is.
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>>149756676
Not really, you're just clinging to a sliver of hope you have. This update is not aimed at dads and ftroop have no problem with fucking them over, see offline drm-free mode fiasco.

You just need to realise that ftroop will do what they do best, deliver minimum viable product. Nothing will change that.

If what you're saying was true, then this game would be dead in 2015 after powerplay. But it just follows the standard internet shitstorm routine. People cry for a month then return to their grind fields hoping for the better day. Braben knows that.
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>>149757541
And how much the massive update breaks.
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>>149757541
>disagreeing=being a dick
What kind of a hugbox you came from, faggot?
>>
Hello dads. How are you today ?
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>>149760184
Very good, son. I'm grinding creds by doing Sothis runs in order to grind donations at 17 Drac so that I can grind Fed Rank, after than I can finally start grinding Sothis again in order to buy my Corvette. After than I can safely grind materials for the Engineers.

I love this game. It's perfect.
>>
REEEEEEEEEE
A FUCKING FEDERATION FACTION GAVE ME A MISSION TO GET THEM NARCOTICS, THEN FUCKING FINED ME TWICE FOR HAVING NARCOTICS
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>>149760438
It's a punishment for playing a shit game.
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>>149760438
>getting caught on an off-the-books job
maximum shig
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>>149713767
Dr. Braben, I'm Federation.
Dr. Braben nods, nervous. Federation hands the Driver a data package.
He wasn't alone.
Federation, confused, spots the Hooded CMDR. He turns to Dr.Braben.
You don't get to bring wingmans.
They are not my wingmans.
Don't worry, no bounty for them.
Why would I want them?
They were trying to undermine your power. (Smiles.) They work for the mercenary. The Rasta man.
DELAINE?
Get 'em on board - I'll call it in.
Fed clipper struggles over snow-capped ice rings.
The jump plan I just filed with the Hudson lists me, my wingman, and Dr. Braben here. But only one of you.
FIRST ONE TO TALK GETS TO STAY ON MY CLIPPER! (Cocks weapon.)
SO...WHO PAID YOU TO GRAB DR. BRABEN?!
HE DIDN'T FLY SO GOOD! WHO WANTS TO TRY NEXT?!
TELL ME ABOUT DELAINE! WHY DOES HE WEAR THE RASTA?!
LOT OF LOYALTY FOR A PLEDGED CMDR!
Or he's wondering why someone would shoot a man before throwing him out of an airlock.
At least you can talk. Who are you?
No one cared who I was until I put on the Rasta...
Who we are does not matter. What matters is our expansion.
If I undermine your sectors, will you die?
It would be extremely painful.
You're a big guy -
For you.
Was being caught part of your plan?
Of course. Dr. Braben refused our offer in favor of yours. We had to know what he told you about us.
Nothing! I said nothing!
Well congratulations, you got yourselves caught. What's the next step of your master plan?
A stealth cutter slowly descends above the clipper.
Self destructing this ship...
WITH NO SURVIVORS

bump
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star citizen, please be good
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>>149762421
All the dads are at work this board will be dead for 10 hours
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>>149764265
I can shitpost from work! And indeed often do to bump this shit.
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>>149763320
>implying anything involving space will be good
The scope is too big, all the ideal mechanics too different.
It will always be missing very big things, at least until we get video game megacorporations who can devote billions into crafting intricate and detailed worlds to suck people into, like WoW except good.
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>>149764298
>tfw I used to shitpost from work
>tfw I will start working again next month
kill me
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>>149764841
Kill yourself.
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>>149765004
and how did you reach that fascinating conclusion anon?
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What are the best weapon options I can put on the two large hardpoints on my Corvette? Thanks /edg/
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>>149769371
>that last second pity bump
Lmaoing at your life, pathetic cuck.
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>>149769371
multis are great
double plasma is amazing too if you can hit anything
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What's the edgiest loadout? I wanna do a federal gunship with all missiles
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>>149769448
>Only valid post in an ocean of of shit- and dadposting.
> Shit reply

Yes, I just samefagged, faggot. Here's your (you)
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>>149769697
How about two huge gimballed beams and the rest all multicannons?
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>>149770084
multis are always viable at all sizes
much better that pulse if you can use them
2 huge beam felt to power hungry though
but again I am not a vette owner
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>>149760330
It's faster to stack skimmer missions. Just find a fed system owned by a corporation. I was doing them in Hel.
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>>149747580
>a little box

Big box. The distance you sit away from a monitor makes it much larger than a "little box"

>Never have a sense of scale or depth

But I do? You know, fuck off VR fag, go jerk off to your dumb shit on a VR forum where you belong.
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>>149772471
someone is salty today
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>>149772471
He's right though, if a bit of an ass. If you've never tried it you won't understand, but it's not like 3D movies or the 3ds, it's an actual immersive experience, very convincing to your eyes that you are there in the cockpit. No monitor will give you that experience. This coming from someone who only owned an OR DK2 and doesn't plan to buy a consumer-grade model until at least the next round, so you know I'm not trying to sell you something.
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>>149772945
VR fags are just insufferable degenerates and need to be reminded to return to their closets under the stairs.
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>>149773014
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>>149775293
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>>149775984
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>>149776178
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>>149775984
>>149773014
>>149772471
if you were ever pretending to be anything but jealous/butthurt you did a shit job m8
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i'm not him but i was thinking about buying a VR, it just doesn't seem worth it atm
plus we don't know about possible long term effects
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>>149777531
Ive got some funny short term effects from my vive
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>>149777664
is it eyestrain from vives being shit in elite?
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>>149777761
Not that at all, Not a lot of people talk about it, and even less people explain why, but you can fix Elite's jaggies and text by messing with some supersampling settings within Elite and the Steam's VR settings. My rig isnt that powerful so when I have it set optimally i have Elite's supersampling at 0.65 (Making it technically worse), but the Vives supersampling at 1.5.
To keep this short, Since it is rendering it twice into your headset (both eyes) but also onto your desktop, making the desktop view worse, but supersampling the optimized VR settings is the best course of action to improve visuals. But I do want to figure out how to get graphical mods to inject into VR

No eyestrain to speak of, but the first bunch of times I had some problems discerning real life and VR. Before you say anything i dont mean graphics, more like I believed i was still wearing another headset, kind of hard to explain but not as cringey as youd think.

The other thing I had was in Raw Data, it has this interesting hand simulation where it takes into account your head, then guessing where your torso would be, and how your hand would connect to it. What this all means is, it isnt just your controllers just being hands, they are almost disconnected and their own entity that you have a great influence over, but remain kind of natural, im probably sounding cringey again. So with these hands you do a lot of picking up, dropping, and aiming, and you get used to the rules these hands abide by, like your brain starts making it natural. When I got out the game and the vive afterwards, I kind of lost all feeling in my hands and arms. Id kind of equate it to those studies where people wore glasses that reflected everything upside down, but then their brains became accustomed to it and undid it
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>>149779047
Cont
But in regards to that other guy, there isnt any VR depth in Elite, the only things you get out of the 3d is seeing your own useless body and stuff inside the cockpit, and getting crosseyed by how close the "Frame Shift Countdown" renders close to your eyes
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What the fuck is up with the servers lately?

I keep getting disconnects and the mission board keeps timing out. Double checked to make sure it wasn't my internet, seemed to be fine and steady, and talking to a few other people I know that also play, they've been having the same issues lately.
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>>149775984
Can you please post full version of that pic?
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>>149779310
Yeah I was trying to grind rep with disconnects and 15 second mission accepting/handing in times. Shit sucks right now.
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>>149780074
I am grinding right now
And I fear it is only going to get worse
I am getting the same vibe from fdev late 1.5
grind while you can
>>
what else is part of horizons? whats the next dlc pack thing? powerplay fucking sucks, SRV driving is pretty decent though

engineers is 'meh too grindy'

what next?
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While i'm exploring, where can i see my progress? or the total value of my discoveries
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>>149780728
Multicrew and fighters is next
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>>149780728

Where is this pic from?
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>>149781823
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>>149781953

Nice. Isn't there also a really big base on Mercury? I haven't been to many bases, mite be cool to check some out.
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>>149780925
bumping
i'm scanning shit left and right but i don't know if it will actually give me money
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>>149782185
the big bases are pretty cool, easily some of the coolest landing areas in the game, big rin of pads along the huge walls with a little city in the middle with roads around it

i wonder if that horizons 'surprise' thing might be walking around bases/stations and talking to other cmdrs, kind of like eves but less useless
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>>149779310
Ive been getting disconnects as well. And. If im going mode to mode to get new missions on the board it keeps the same missions from the previous mode.

Makes me want to code for ftroop.....anyone could at this rate
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>>149780728
>>149781953
Does it look that ugly in the actual headset?
This seriously looks like it's shot on some ancient Sony Ericsson.
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>>149782552
I'd love to deploy cargo scoop and nap some potential slaves
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>>149783714
nah thats the window on the desktop, its deliberately low res, like setting the supersampling to less than 1, i upped the resolution so its not a total jagged mess for screenshotting, the performance hit isnt too bad considering its still undersampling

all in all looks far sharper actually in the headset
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I fucked up /edg/
I fucked up hard
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>>149784041
Neat.
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>>149784628
Time to call the Dads.
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>>149784628
>1440x900
>hauler
>LE TIME TO CALL LE FUEL DADS *winks*
Kill yourself, faggot.
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>>149784770
Never
I'll just wait and die of a painful death
then i'll try exploration again when i have the dosh from RES or trade

>>149784859
what's your problem senpai?
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>>149784950
>what's your problem senpai?
Your existence obviously.

Just suicide, rebuy is peanuts.
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>>149784950
>1k away from me
if you were closer or had a ship with atleast 10 mil insurance i would help
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>>149784628
Time to call the fuel rats.

Next time, when you get low, check galaxy map for a nearby A/B/F/O/G/K/M type star.
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>>149785058
it's what i'm doing
i wanted to try a cheap exploration ship for shit and jiggles but apparently i'll try later again
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>>149779047
How bad is the screendoor effect? That was my biggest issue on the OR DK1/2.
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>>149786435
still there, greatly reduced to the point of not being an issue anymore, atleast on the rift you can read all the text with ease now, no having to change the hud or supersample etc

the biggest plus though is theres no 'sweetspot' anymore, like the entire view is clear, not just a little area in the middle, thats the tradeoff for the god rays
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>>149775293
>Fox and grapes

I have more than enough money to purchase several VR headsets. I don't understand your terrible use of memes.

>>149777017
>Jealous of something I can easily afford and get but choose not to because I'm not retarded

This is why VR fags need to stay in their little dark corners.
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>>149786756
BTW do gas giants actually feel fuckhuge in 3D? I always had a suspicion that ftroop cheated with their size and they in fact are much smaller then they should be.
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>>149787093
>came back just because people were talking about VR again

Haha, holy shit, you are so pathetic.
>>
Seriously fuck the Fuel Rats they're so damn annoying.
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>>149787387
>Came back because of VR

Are you retarded? I came back because I check up on this general every few hours.
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>>149785281
>i wanted to try a cheap exploration ship

It's called a Type 6 friendo.
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>>149787134
depends if youre just zipping past in supercruise then not really, everythings far away and looks relatively small, not like "thats the size of a tennis ball" kind of looks small but the "its really far away cant really judge how big it is" kind

when you are up close or in a ring doing RES then they look huge, the closer you are the more like a colossal wall it looks

>>149787474
youre definitely jealous it seems
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>>149787463
Dunno why are you spoilering it, daddit good samaritan attention whoring clubs are cancer.
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>>149787463
>not baiting and destroying them when you get bored
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>>149787706
You got me. Totally jealous of something that I can get right now.
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Can someone explain fines to me?
They seem to randomly disappear without me paying them, but before the week is up.
And sometimes the amount changes?
>>
>>149787924
fdev is bad at coding
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>>149788002
So, do i have a shitton of bounties on my head yet?
Where do i see those?
>>
>>149787924
Google ED dormant bounties/fines. It's too fucking retarded too spoonfeed.
>>
>>149788149
Transactions tab on the left screen.
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>>149788202
So many things are needlessly overcomplicated in this game.
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>>149788202
>>149788435
No, look. The Fines were there. It's been not even a day, and now some a gone, and some have increased in price.
One 20k fine disappeared the moment i got into the system i was going to pay it off in.
And i cant see bounties in the transactions screen.
>>
>>149789150
Word.
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>>149789152
Again, google it. Fines and bounties are faction/system dependant.
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>>149789437
I did google it, it still makes no sense!
How can a bounty disappear without being paid, without the timer going off, without becoming a bounty, and without becoming a legacy fine?
I was IN the system i was going to pay the fine in when it and 2 other randomly poofed into thin air.
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>>149789762
>it still makes no sense!
WELCOME YOUNGLING, PLEASE ASSUME THE POSITION
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>>149789930
I-I just wanted to be a good citizen and pay my fines on time
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>>149789152
did you not see >>149788002 ?

The servers are on the fritz right now, worse than usual, so bounties and shit are fucking up too. Only thing to try is relogging, but who knows if it'll work.
>>
>interdict dads in anaconda
>type lol i trole u in chat
>pips to shield and lowwake out
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>>149791705
I did this too in my Python, but I just said "boo"
>>
>>149780728
2.2 is ship-launched fighters and passenger missions, 2.3 is avatar creation and multicrew, 2.4 is a le sekrit

we don't know what the next season will be, but most people think it'll probably be spess legs

that'll be $60, plz
>>
>>149789762
This started happening in 2.1. The problem is FD is extremely, laughably incompetent.
>>
guys I cant get an ascension mission
did 20 more missions at 100% changed stations still no joy
what am I doing wrong
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>stuck in loading screen three times today
>every time I have to force stop ED
>every time it has to recalculate my shaders entirely, taking several minutes

what the FUCK man
>>
>>149795802

>every time it has to recalculate my shaders entirely, taking several minutes

You can turn that off in the options.
>>
SPACELEGS WHEN
>>
>>149796829
> it's just the srv controls with no srv hud
>>
>>149795585
So i straight up dont have to pay shit?
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>>149798623

Better yet, there's always the fail proof way of killing yourself in game to wipe all active bounties and wanted statuses.

Buy sidey in station -> shoot inside the station -> respawn.
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>>149798623
Nope. As far as I have been able to tell, once your fines and bounties randomly disappear, they're just gone and never come back.
>>
>>149799479
shiiiiiiiiiiet, so i can be the most prolific drug smuggler in the galaxy, and get caught at every opportunity, and probably not have to pay even half the fines?
>>
Is Jaques Station worth it?
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>>149800353

_no
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>>149789762
>I did google it, it still makes no sense!

Elite Dangerous.
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>>149801591
>not no_
for what purpose
>>
>>149795802
Sounds like a driver issue to me
>>
why did no-one tell me about sothis/ceos sooner?
ive made more money in the last few hours than i did in 80hours of bulk trading
>>
>>149802268
everyone was and is talking about it almost daily. Dads complained about it and a "quick cash elite" search will give you sothis too
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>>149795802
Summer vision my friend.
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>>149803523
It can't cost THAT much to add a couple more servers.
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>>149807914
whoops wrong edit
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>>149808084
http://puu sh/qgDjr/cbdec792c7.webm
have some of the vision i was a wittness of
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>>149807958

Anon, we're talking about a company that charged 60 bucks for Barren Planets DLC, when Star Shitizen is going to deliver that feature for "free" on day 1.
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>>149808463
Plus live planets, and space legs, and aliens, and multi crew, and... well, likely Braben's entire VISION. But that's what happens when you give $150mil in funding to an autist who's singular goal in life is to create the more immersive and living/breathing space sim possible.
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>>149808337
It's an improvement, honestly. Should have used HARMONY for the music, though.
>>
>>149808463
>>149809070
not gonna lie, the new info about 2.6/2.7 has me a lil hyped again

if star citizen has even a quarter of what they've promised, it'll still be ten times the game ED is
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>>149809969
>quarter

I don't see why it wouldn't. The only thing that seems outlandish is the number of star systems, but they're probably going to be using similar procedural tech to pad that out.
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>>149810242
How many did Freelancer have? And what was the budget on it?
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>>149810460
Okay, I can't find budget info, but 53 systems total.
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Do you enjoy small ships much more than big ones? I recently upgraded from an Asp Explorer to a Python (full A) and it is so much boring, even for combat.

I'm thinking on getting a Vulture or a federal gunship and do some bounty hunting for a while.
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>>149811719
FGS handles worse than a python. You want a FAS or vulture. And yes, big ships are super boring.
>>
>>149812357
I'll probably go with a vulture because I can build it A without selling my python. Good to know FGS is shiet.
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>>149812357

Spoonfeed me please; what are the major differences between the FAS and the Vulture? I know they're both maneuverable, but I'm guessing that you don't outfit them the same way. I've picked up that the FAS is more for hulltanking and the Vulture for shields. Is that correct?

I just want something that's nimble so I can get and stay behind and plink at my opponents.
>>
NEW
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>>149809969
are you talking about SC 2.6/2.7 patche info ?
>>
TRED
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>>149814107
FAS is tankier. Vulture is more maneuverable with only two large hardpoints.

>>149814348
He's talking about SC 2.6/7 information from that magazine and also from the videos come out recently.
>>
PLS
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>>149814107
FAS is faster, shit shields, tankier, even more firepower
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>>149814559
>>149814840

Alright. How do you outfit them, gun-wise?

And which do you prefer?

Much appreciated.
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>>149814107
FAS
>shit shields, good maneuverability, great speed
Vulture
>good shields, great maneuverability, shit speed
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>>149815246

FAS:
Top Speed 244 m/s
Top Boost 406 m/s

Vulture:
Top Speed 244 m/s
Top Boost 397 m/s

Both upgraded. Am I missing something here?
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>>149815034
2 med beamz, 2 large MCs are pretty much the best "do it all" loadout

>>149815537
the vulture is so power starved that downbrading thrusters is often done to accomodate for shield boosters or better weapons
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>>149815537
Yes, FAS retains maneuverability outside the blue zone much better than other ships, which means you have more usable speed in combat.
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>>149816368
new
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>>149812357
Its got all da daka you need ya git
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