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Previous>>149420973


Event drops
>i.imgur.com/NOcHYy4.png


>[Onigashima] and Minamoto's gacha until 25.7 (14:59)
http://fate-go.cirnopedia.info/quest_event_20160711.php#nav

>Camelot's heads up + Limited Gatcha [25-7~29-7]
>http://news.fate-go.jp/2016/z6i1w/
Master Missions. Complete these for quartz fragments that you can combine to exchange for quartz.
Level cap up to 130.
New mats.
Collect 10 of the new item 'Blank Saint Graph' to get a 5* of your choice. You get one of this every time you roll a 5* beyond your 5th copy.
Gacha Servants:
Ozymandias, 5* Rider: Single target super strong attack, NP seal (1 turn) and defense down (3 turn) <overcharge>.
Nitocris, 4* Caster: Strong AoE attack inflicting instant death <overcharge>.
Lancelot, 4* Saber: Arts card up (1 turn) and super strong attack to one target and increased damage (5 turns) <overcharge>.
Hassan of Serenity, 3* Assassin: Apply poison to single target (5 turns) and chance to seal skills (1 turn) and chance to seal NP (1 turn) and chance to inflict instant death <overcharge> on a super strong attack.
Fujiwara no Hidesato, 3* Archer: Apply super effective bonus against [Demon] (1 turn) <overcharge> and strong AoE attack.
Gacha CEs:
Origin Bullet: Invincibility pierce and +35% damage up against Casters.
Fire Support: Damage plus 400 and critical strength 15% up.
Battle of Camlann: 10% NP charge to entire team when the wielder is killed.

>News and Reminders
- Latest changes: http://fate-go.cirnopedia.info/news.php
New vers - emulators, rooted androids, jailbroken iPhones, & androids with developer options on are prevented from launching game

>Dropmaps
http://imgur.com/a/6nXq9

>Frequently Asked Questions
http://pastebin.com/Hp918cqA

>Mega Pastebin
http://pastebin.com/HTrhq7Nk

>Translations Pastebin
http://pastebin.com/URc62gex

>Friendlist Spreadsheet
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1q7PleXm4aQWpc0-fvUhS-p9LMoept7nc5WtwkCUX0os

>Wiki
http://fate-go.cirnopedia.info
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Daughter
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You're playing with the big boys now
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>Farming nuts to level Sumanai
Why did he have to be the saber I got?
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Xth for anti-lizard lizard
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>>149455981
>Have Seiba, Alter and Lily
>pull gold Saber
>hope it's Nero for a complete saber team
>Sumanai
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>>149455981
>wasting mats on one of the worst sabers in the game
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http://news.fate-go.jp/2016/8ruxuq/
Addition of 6th chapter of the main quest.
Addition of new Servants and CEs.
Camelot story gacha.
FP gacha update.
Master level increased from 120 to 130.
Addition of Master Missions.
Implementation of Quartz Fragment trading and Special Summon options in Da Vinci's Workshop.
Interlude for: Arash and Minamoto Yorimitsu.
Flavour text update for Arturia Pendragon (Alter) (Lancer) and Minamoto Yorimitsu.
Design update for Erik Bloodaxe.
End of Onigashima event.
End of Onigashima event gacha.
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>>149456038
Nothing would make me happier than having those sabers.

On my old account the only gold saber I had, besides Lily, was Deon.

Seems I get screwed whenever I get a saber.

>>149456085
Only gold saber I got.
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>>149455981
he'll be useful when we need to kill another lancer-saber face.
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SOON
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http://news.fate-go.jp/2016/8ruxuq/
Servant icon will be updated to reflect the Saint Graph artwork.
Servant icon can now be changed to display different ascensions.
Lock information for Servants and CEs will be retained in the server from now on.
Number of turns elapsed in battle will be displayed.
Skill levels will be displayed in party and support organization screen.
4* and above Servants and CEs will be locked by default when you obtain them.
Changes to the FP you obtain when using an NPC support to clear the mission.
Various changes and adjustments to the UI and text.
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>TRUE unrivaled in a few hours
Will Gilfags finally leave this place so it can become great again.
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LIZ THREAD
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>>149456198
But I like both Ozzy and Gil.
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love cat
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>>149456169
She won't have alter's boobs.
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>>149456253
You're going to trigger the tits autist
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>>149456168
The only thing I can really use him for is tanking due to his high HP.

I'm probably going to do a 10-roll when Gawain pops up in the event summons so I can get a new saber.
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Does Perfare have a blog or where does he link his unlocked APK?

>>149456253
Synonym with
>She'll be shit
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>>149456313
Poor sumanai, hopefully we'll get a new taunt CE that he can use.
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>>149456253
I hope that's the case because alter tits are disgusting.
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>>149456382
See, that would actually make him useful.
He pops in with the taunt CE, takes some blows for a few rounds, and gives everyone else the time to rest.

I mean, how good would he be if he had taunt instead of, say, the clear?
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>>149456139
You're better off using a 3 star saber
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>>149456198
>TRUE unrivaled
>still a four star
>has to overload his sword just to match up to other RT knights
>arts NP
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SOON or not
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>>149456474
I've seriously been debating pulling out Fergus.
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>>149456198
I'm rolling for ozzy, lancelot, and Gawain tho.

saber hasan I'm not interested in
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>>149455967
Marinate eggs.
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>>149456484
>has to overload his sword just to match up to other RT knights
You mean surpass even more. Even without overloading he could shit on the likes of Gawain and Arturia.
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>>149456382
>he doesn't have Gudaguda Poster Girl

Smhtbqh senpai
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>>149456557
It's what I do.
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>EMULATORFAGS WILL BE BTFO AGAIN
can't wait
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>>149456182
>>149456086
Ah. Emulators will be killed again in a few hours.

That version update.

Then again, if they arent upping security, the crackers can remove it clean off faster than original.
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>>149456253
Just watch her have them faggot

Her tits will be worthy of the one who wields the spear on tue edge of the world
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>>149456469
Just imagine if they replaced Golden Rule with a Taunt+NP up. they could literally give him Mashu's third skill and call it a day.
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>>149456640
I just may do that after I satisfy my autism and get the third ascension.
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Best archer
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>>149456576
>he thinks lancelot would shit on arturia willingly
fuck off miguel, you're not a real jetfag
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>>149456182
>Servant icon will be updated to reflect the Saint Graph artwork.
>Servant icon can now be changed to display different ascensions.
I'm confused, does he mean the portrait in the Card inventory or the little CG next to HP and other values when you open the Servant card itself?

>Changes to the FP you obtain when using an NPC support to clear the mission.
As in, less or more?
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>the disappointment that this thread will have when said skull knight is actually not King Hassan

Can you imagine?
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>>149456643
Yeah because Perfare sure can't just remove the security once again. Oh wait, he can, and this time it'll be much quicker too

>>149456676
They have no reason to buff security. They are likely not even aware it has been cracked.
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>>149456438
Shut the fuck up Raita and commit suicide with your shitty Misa-nee
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>>149456741
The little square card icon you see everywhere
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>>149456761
>it was a random skeleton enemy
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>>149456736
Sometimes you gotta go hard on the ones you love so they can grow strong. Lancelot literally said he can't accept Arturia's way in GoA.
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>>149456775
>not aware when people have been sending in evidence
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>>149456761
inb4 EMIYA____ Alter
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>>149456761
It will be more interesting if he isn't. I think most people are just curious.
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>>149456741
Most probably the portrait in the inventory. And as for FP they're probably buffing it, I think they give +10 FP at the moment?
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>>149456836
>random enemies
>apearing in CMs
>ever
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>>149456708
That right there would make him very good.
Sumanai's stats are those of a tank but he lacks to the tool to actually tank.
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>>149456839
There's a difference between being hard on someone and "shitting" on them.

Besides, he needs his buffing sword to match up to the RT normally, everyone else just uses their natural ability.
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>>149456912
Sanzou's taunt would also be pretty fitting with how it works. Literally just give him a built in Taunt and replace Golden-rule or Stance renewal with that and he'll be decent.
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>>149456904
>delusional king hassan fag
The next iskandar and saber diarmuid right here amigos
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>>149456861
Please no, my quartz.
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>>149456573
I don't like eggs do they taste good if you marinate them?
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>>149456923
>>149456923
>There's a difference between being hard on someone and "shitting" on them
Having the capability to shit on someone doesn't mean you will.

>to match up
>canon strongest
You mean surpass by far.
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>>149456959
Are you being purposefully retarded?
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>No Grail Ascension coming with Camelot

And, to no ones surprise, DW breaks yet another promise. Surely they can be taken to court at this point, how many times can they get away with lies about the content the game will contain only to just not do that? It's getting people to use a service (and encouraging them to pay for it too) under false pretences.
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>>149457060
Maybe you should stop inventing promises
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>>149457041
>with both their buffs, Lancelot can only fight defensively against Gawain
>when Gawain loses his buff and Lancelot keeps his, Lancelot wins

what a shocker
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So I'm new to this, what will I need to do when the version changes? I assume I'll need to uninstall the APK and when the new one comes out I use that transfer code to get my account on it, is that right?
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>LArtoria
>Ozzy
>King Hassan
>Gawain
>Lancelot and Gawain
>nitrocris

Im highly interested in seeing how DW will manage to fuck up their hypest gacha additions yet
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>>149457128
You just update it over it don't uninstall
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>>149456923
>none of the RT have EAM except Lancelot
So much for their "natural ability".

Just kill yourself Gilfag, the one that is inferior to a kid in both skill and power is called Gilgamesh, not Lancelot.
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>>149457093
They outright promised that Grail Ascension would come with Camelot. How is that an invention of my own? Fuck off DW shill.
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>>149457128
For what purpose ?
Memelator player ?
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>>149456707
First of all, I come from the future, so I already know she isn't gonna have them. Second, I don't even care whether she's got them or not, I'm just stating a fact.
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>>149456992
I dunno about taste, but it feels damn good to marinate them.
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>>149457060
why do you lie? They never promised anything.
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>>149457106
>implying Gawain wasn't the one on the defensive
Reminder he failed to do with for 3 hours then got knocked out in 1 hit.
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>>149457203
>normieshit with a phone thinks emulators are a meme
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>>149457187
>implying Emiya couldn't handle Lancelot all by himself
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Soon, the placeholder that is her profile will be changed.
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Bradamante when?
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>>149457258
Can you tell me exactly how what they said is not a promise?
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>Like Lancelot because he's a knight that instead of having weird sword beams fights predominantly with pure swordsman ship like Sasaki
>The mere mention of UNRIVALED will spark shitposting.
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>>149457283
>implying i'm playing with phone
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>>149457178
Oh ok, that's easier, thanks
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Vive la France. Or something.
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>>149457345
I WANT TO THRUST MY SWORD INTO FATHERS CHEST
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>>149457392
Phone, Tablet, same shit
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I predict that Gawain will become the resident wave clearer of 4* Sabers.
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>>149457364
We know about grail ascension in camelot from a tweet by the guy who went to machisoba and who had talked about the swimsuit event too.
Since the swimsuit event was confirmed by dw, his claim about grail ascension gained credit, but dw themselves never promised anything about it.
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>>149457453
Shut up Mordred.
I will thrust my sword between her chest, if you catch my drift.
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>>149457453
Thats really immoral
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>>149457285
>projecting your own insecurities on stronger Servants
EMIYA already accepted Lancelot was better than him.

>>149457378
Gilfags are autistic and insecure, nothing new. Just ignore their autism, if everyone cared about autists around here, you wouldn't see Okita, Scathach, Nero or Tamamofags.
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>Just a few more hours until the Gilcuck get BTFO by Lancelot's BEAM.
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I've missed the whole event, but I want to keep rider Kintoki. What do I have to do?
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>>149457596
Clear the event.
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They should fucking update the game and support newest resolutions, bluebars on top and bot are so ugly and annoying
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>>149457503
He didn't even say a date. Just that it was confirmed to raise level cap.

https://twitter.com/masakado_alice/status/727489717235634176
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>>149457549
>anything a round table has (excluding avalon) can stop ea gg.
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>>149457596
>non-ascended NP1 rider Kintoki
the saddest of all kintokis
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>>149457378
Blame the jetfag and Melvin for that. Plenty of people like Servants without shitposting them to the point that an entire general hates them.
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>>149457530
>EMIYA already accepted Lancelot was better than him.
[citation needed]
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How fast can we expect 2ch apk?
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>>149457640
Every single quest?
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>>149457680
I just burned him on other accounts.
I don't want to look at something I can't finish.
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>>149457715
He's talking about emiya's victory quote vs seiba in f/uc.
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>>149457527
there's nothing wrong with murdering someone who kicked you out and ruined your country.
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>>149457680
If only Monster Hunter Generations and Pokemon Go wouldn't have released at the same time.
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>>149457724
If they did not change security, before the game goes live, a hour after the apk is uploaded
If they did change security, 1-2 days most likely, the groundwork for removing it is there, but they need to adjust for the changes
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>>149457715
To be fair, Emiya accepted that most Servants are better than him. His fighting style of leaving wide openings that he knows will be targeted reflects that he knows he's shit.
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>>149457818
That's a fine reason to kill Mordred, yeah
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>>149457774
Wouldn't that mean you'd burn all your 5* because you'll never get them to NP5?
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>>149456086
>Interlude for: Arash
Bring it.
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>>149457914
This is true.

>>149457715
Please don't bring emiya into this.

>>149457935
They actually have a chance to be complete even if it's ridiculously unlikely, kintoki rider does not.
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>>149457935
You can ascend them though. It's impossible to ascend Kintoki after this event.
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>>149456086

Among all the new servant since America, only Minamoto get an interlude.
It's sad.
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>>149457918
was expecting a Trump joke.
Yeah it would be a good reason to kill her. good thing she hasn't had the chance to rule.
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>>149456498
never ever
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>>149458146
Nasu was busy rewriting Camelot since Sakurai can't be trusted
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>yfw Lancer Arturia starts out flat but her tits get bigger as you ascend her
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>>149458282
Sakurai was fine in London though.
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>>149457914
>he knows he's shit.

He knows he's good, lancer even says "why the fuck is a bowman this good with swords, why do you have no pride even though you're fucking amazing?"

Emiya doesn't give a shit, he'll say "yeah you're better than me, sure"
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>>149458146
Because tits are superior to indian dudes and assorted shit

>>149458317
That would be amazing
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>>149458317
YES
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>>149458334
>Fine
>London
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>>149458334
Hard to compare that to a chapter that might have a huge effect on the lore of the series
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>>149458656
>London
>not having a huge effect on the lore of the series
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>>149458656
inb4 it has no impact whatsoever intentionally
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>>149458449
It was the best chapter once it came out, you are just being a contrarian.
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>>149458712
i think he's talking about Camelot, Comparing London to Camelot is wrong because Camelot has alot of "important" lore to it.
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>>149458712
>London having any impact
You mean Andersen's monologue and Solomon's appearance, not the chapter itself. Those could've been written by Nasu, for all we know
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>>149456086
DW WHERE THE FUCK IS BERSERKER LANCELOT'S INTERLUDE YOU FUCKHEADS
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>>149458876
It's still better than anything that came before it or even America from a lore impact viewpoint.
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>>149458876
It was still in London, exposition given to us in the Order that we went to London. It wasn't there before London happened, therefore London had an impact on the lore of the series. With that argument, Camelot won't have any impact on the lore of the series either, specific events in it will.
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>>149458919
They saw all the Jet shitposting and decided never to give him one to spite melvin
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Doujins when

>>149458974
I'm sure London will have more than a single monologue and a cameo to it. Its supposed to set up the last Order that ties all of the story together.
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>>149458805
Second to Okeanus actually.
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Other game changes coming tomorrow.

Servant icon will be updated to reflect the Saint Graph artwork.
Servant icon can now be changed to display different ascensions.
Lock information for Servants and CEs will be retained in the server from now on.
Number of turns elapsed in battle will be displayed.
Skill levels will be displayed in party and support organization screen.
4* and above Servants and CEs will be locked by default when you obtain them.
Changes to the FP you obtain when using an NPC support to clear the mission.
Various changes and adjustments to the UI and text.
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>>149459065
>That last one with Herc in a bathhouse.
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>>149459125
There was never a consensus about that.
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>It's an Arash episode
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>>149459165
>Servant Icon will be updated to reflect the Saint Graph Artwork

What did they mean by this?
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>>149459195
Neither was there one for London. Why would you call someone contrarian that being the case then?
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Onis saved F/go.
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Umu
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>>149459301
Arash to be shipped with Serenity so hard poisonfags gonna BTFO
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>>149459421
>Got only the bratty one that can't hold her alcohol
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America>London>everything else but septum>shit>septum
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>>149459348
Your inventory icon is always the highest ascension stage as of now.

After the update, it'll be the same as the Servant's sprite.

E.g. Jeanne's icon will be of her 2nd ascension if that's the sprite you chose for her.
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>>149459421
They were the final nail in the coffin, more like.
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>>149459187
>Lancer Alter testing all of the Servants worth same way that Saber Alter did with Shiro
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>>149459394
Because there is a rather huge stretch about considering London on par with Okeanos that considering it not fine.
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>>149459436
Half her myroom lines are gonna be about the zombie anyway, bet on it.
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>>149459539
What's that got to do with Saint Graphs?
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>>149459557
this is the truth
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>>149459582
Can't he be shipped with his imouto or his gay BFF Jekyll instead? I don't want to be cucked by a dead body.
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Pokemon Go x Grand Order collab when?
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>>149459561
>Lancer Alter doing this to Herc
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>>149459832
He had a sister?
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As someone who has a learning disability who struggles with comprehending the chunks of info in the pastebin and guides What do I do to efficiently progress through the game?

I know I'm gonna get yelled at, but I really can't comprehend the guides I'm reading and it's a lot easier to process and comprehend the information on a place like here rather than the format in the guides
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>>149459993
Yes. Last we heard from her she was still waiting for him to come back after he left home and got himself killed. He also had a girl in school he was thinking of confessing to.
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>>149459646
Saint graphs = Servant cards
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>>149460130
Just keep going to the area that says next, you'll get these weird rainbow things, save those up til you have 40 then go to the place where you rolled your first few servants.
Use the golden/Silver apples they give out as necacery, don't ever use the Rainbow stuff to refil/restart fights.
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>>149459646
George and Martha were brilliant mathematicians, and their proofs are a new ascension material.
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>>149460280
Does team composition matter?
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>>149459832
Doesn't she already come precucked thanks to a bunch of dead bodies she tongued?
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>>149459889
>You can get a servant if you go to their museum/statue/birthplace/deathplace

Sounds cool
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>The scorching-hot summer is finally here. No, it was already here. Definitely.
>The release date for chapter 6 of FGO is finally confirmed.
>Nasu was the main writer this time.
>Why, you ask?
>Since the topic is Camelot, perhaps I had no choice. Or perhaps I had to explain the TYPE-MOON Round Table given the chance. Or perhaps it's because I couldn't roll Heroine X back in January. Reasons like that.
>As a result,
>"I wanna do that," "I wanna do this," "how about a brown Ellie-style Egyptian?" "Dynasty Warriors Gawain," "where's Pikachu?" "We'll smash pyramids into pyramids!" "Refrain is such a cool game!" "Wait... is that a Charmander in my hallway!?" "I see... Piety is... Sanzang is... Getter is..."
>all converged and I ended up with the longest story yet. If Chapter 5 was 300 kb then Chapter 6 is 500 kb. Forgive me. Chapter 7 won't be that long.
>Anyway, it's been 10 years since stay night, and I'm quite happy to revisit this theme and write a story about King Arthur again.
>We present to you a strange tale about a certain knight. Please enjoy.
>Of course, I had to call on Sakurai-san's aid for the Egypt-related parts since there was no way Nasu could handle it all on my own. Specifically, for the Blue and Silver characters. Arash's regular life, Serenity-chan's hotness, and King Ozymandias impressing upon us his ideas of kingship and how he'd consider this situation.
>In other words, the Egyptians, Arash-san, and Serenity-chan were like a collaboration with Sakurai-san.
>King Ozymandias of Blue & Silver and King Ozymandias of Chapter 6 both appear as an unassailable troublemaker.
>Coupled with Koyasu's character voice, that invincible air is no joke.
>To put it dramatically,
>"The ancient Sun King, 'I'll show you a true Beamer' Ozymandias is here!!! But I'll pass on a fight with Moses, 'cause that dude's liable to part the sea with his fists!"
>Something like that. Yeah, I don't get it.
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>Arash already have base NP multiplier of 600%,the highest of all Buster AoE NP
>easy to get NP5,so usually his multiplier is 1000%
>not to mention his Overcharge effect
>yfw he get NP interlude,so base is 700%,NP5 is 1100%,full Overcharge NP5 is 1500%
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>>149460395
sometimes, character classes work like pokemon where they're strong against something else and weak against another, there's a few picutures that illustrate it. as long as you keep your servants leveled high-enough you should be fine just working around with 1 of each class being high-level. Also don't be too afraid to add your Friend code to the Spreadsheet or just posting it. Believe it or not, most people here just pretend to be assholes.
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Did you bind your account yet, /fgog/?
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>>149460580
>go to glastonburry abbey to get all the sabers you could ever want.
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>>149460395
When you start playing I guess it does count a little, but once you start maxing your servants it doesn't really matter anymore (except for maybe for really hard fight like the raid missions, but those are not common).
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>>149460583
Only a madman speaks about himself in the 3rd person. Or a hack.
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>>149460583
> Forgive me. Chapter 7 won't be that long.
Like how CCC was the last Fate work you were gonna write, right Nasu?
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>>149460580
>implying anyone would willingly want to go to India
DESIGNATED
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>>149460540
She was draining prana from random johns she picked up in Ikebukoro. It's not sure she kissed any of them to do it, but since she killed Tatsumi with a kiss, it would seem it's her preferred method of execution. If she only had a proper master she would likely not be going around Frenching people to death for prana and would likely not be quite as mentally unstable as she was in Fragments.
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>>149460583
>But I'll pass on a fight with Moses, 'cause that dude's liable to part the sea with his fists!"

Moses OP
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How did the gacha treat you this event, /fgog/? I got Ibaraki after 27 tickets and 64 quartz in singles, but got greedy trying to get her to NP2 and am now fucked for swimsuits.

>109 singles
>41 3* CE, 10 Pheasant Reversal
>48 3* Servants
>13 4* CE, 2 Faithful Dog
>3 4* Servants, 1 Ibaraki Douji
>3 5* CE
>>>>1 Orion, now at NP2
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>>149460583
>I'll pass on a fight with Moses, 'cause that dude's liable to part the sea with his fists!"
I thought the M in OPM stood for Man, not Moses.
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A ten roll and a few tickets got me bigtits.
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>>149461186
Bait
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>>149461128
Passed since I have NP3 Fran
Glad I did because I can roll for Serenity and Nitocris now
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>>149460583
>>King Ozymandias of Blue & Silver and King Ozymandias of Chapter 6 both appear as an unassailable troublemaker.
Best king.
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>>149461128
2nd Stheno
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>>149460583
Nasu rants are pretty entertaining.

>"I wanna do that," "I wanna do this," "how about a brown Ellie-style Egyptian?" "Dynasty Warriors Gawain,"
>Dynasty Warriors Gawain
I don't know if he means Extella or that he will solo an army in the order, but anyway, I look forward to it.

Also, what game is Refrain?
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>>149461186
A ten roll and a few tickets got me two bigtits at the beginning of the event. Step it up senpai.
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>>149461128
I only spent tickets on it, and got a Worst Oni out of it.
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>>149461128
2 ten rolls, 10~ Tickets
Got Raikou, NP2 IBARAKI
Fuuma, kiyohime, 2 Quick tohsaka CE's, 2 faithful doggys and a couple of clock towers.

Pretty decent for just 80 quartz and some free summon tickets.
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>>149461128
Do 10 roll on first day and only got jackshit.

Stock up my 8 tickets and do 7 singles,manage to get Raitits and Ibaraki.

Singles is not a meme
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>have to wait until Babylon for a new Gilgamesh
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>>149461128
>12 tickets
>one single
>2 10 rolls

>3 kiyo and tama CE
>2 Justeaze
>2 Twice
>1 Raikou
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>>149461128
13 tickets and 4 quartz
2 5* event CE
1 4* event CE
4 3* event CE
1 4* CE
3 3* CE
1 ninja
2 shit bananas

I just wanted those boobs.
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>>149461128
Used about 7 tickets.
Wanted event CEs, got NP2 Ibaraki instead.
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>>149461128
~300 quartz later and 15 tickets got me Ibaraki as the only gold
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>>149461128
Only one 10rolls per event.
This time, I got 5 event ce and the assassin.
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>>149460583
>Forgive me. Chapter 7 won't be that long.
Can't wait for 3 months to see ''if chapter 6 was 500kb then chapter 7 is 900kb!''
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Using all the event refills to farm feathers at the red door is killing my soul.
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>>149460583
>Dynasty warriors Gawain
soon
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>>149461128
Treated me nicely. Rolled nothing, got nothing. Camelot will be the same.
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>>149461128
Memerolled one ticket
Got Kiritsugu "Kill many to save few" Emiya
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>>149460583
>But I'll pass on a fight with Moses, 'cause that dude's liable to part the sea with his fists!"
Is this gonna be a thing with saints and prophets? It feels like half of them just punch their problems away. At least Martha and Sanzang do. Dunno, does Saver also punch things he finds disagreeable?
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>>149460583
>I'll pass on a fight with Moses, 'cause that dude's liable to part the sea with his fists!"
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>>149460583
Moses confirmed can handle Old Man Diaz by himself.
Jew stronk.
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>>149460591
>yfw it's just a quartz interlude
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>>149461368
>Also, what game is Refrain?
Coven and Labyrinth of Refrain, a Vita dungeon crawler.
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>>149461128
One 10 roll and got the tittyzerker, hope I didn't use up my share of luck.
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I wonder if she is going to get new animations using the sword.
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>>149460583
Moses' fists >>>>> Mesektet + The Sphinx of Abu el-Hol + Ramesseum Tentyris?
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I sure wish it was possible to trade accounts. Maybe somebody out there wants to trade Raikou for Tesla.
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>>149462154
Jannu Alter did, so it's possible our lil Kouhai will do some cool stuff.
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>>149462205
Nasu agrees don't bother him about it.
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WHAT THE FUCK IS HER PROBLEM?!
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>>149462364
But Jannu always had a sword on her, right? Mashu doesn't get one until her third ascension.
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>>149461752
I know there was a saint who is know to brawl against lion. (St Javer maybe).
I think it's just because most of them doesn't own weapon. Why not the staves is another question.
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>>149462519
She wants hug.
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>>149462545
shoot yeah, maybe we'll finally get animation changes as servants ascend.
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>>149462519
She like ninjas
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>>149460583
So we really will be fighting against Ramesses and Nitocris most of the chapter?
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>>149461128
Spent 15 tickets, 44 quartz on it because I realized I don't want anyone from Camelot, got Raikou.

Then I spent 3 more tickets and got nothing.
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How much time do we have until the end of this event? I want to see if I have enough time to farm for my last two sumo CEs
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>>149462519
>using kunai
Cursed Arm dirks look cooler
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>>149462519
Her master was the dumbest fuck. Like, worse than Gordes. Most of the shit she had to go through in Fragments could have been avoided if the guy who summoned her wasn't suicidally stupid.
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>>149461964
I see. Thanks.
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>>149462842
14 hours.
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>>149462914
Literally just a sharpened dragon dildo.
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>update tomorrow
>5 quartz
Need to farm 35 quartz on quests.
And bye, emule.
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>>149463087
More like 7 quartz, with the extended maintenance.
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>>149462958
Haven't read prototype fragments. Why?
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>>149462842
You have plenty of time if you use apples
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>>149462519
Why is she going to kill her husbando?
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>>149463282
She automatically secretes poison, and the first thing her master tried to do was jump her bones.
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Does Fragments of 2030 give stars if the Servant it's equipped to is in the backline?
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>>149463407
Sounds like my kinda guy
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>>149462604
>shoot yeah, maybe we'll finally get animation changes as servants ascend.
Literally the character you were just discussing.
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>>149463443
No
Front line only
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>>149461128
nothing but regret
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I wonder what will be the true name of the thumb NP that Fionn has.

The one we were given as a joke was 親指かむかむ智慧もりもり(フィンタン・フィネガス), that would translate to "Fintan Finnegas: Thumb munch munch Wisdom hungrily" because Fionn was obviously munching his thumb while using it so the name had onomatopoeia all over the place.
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>>149463169
More like 7 quartz fragments, because they have to test out the new currency you get for maintenance
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>>149463407
It was hilarious though. Besides how could we know how much better Manaka is than all the other Masters if they aren't shown to be so woefully incompetent?
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>>149458337

At no point did Cu call EMIYA's swordsmanship amazing. He just got increasingly more pissed off that EMIYA wasn't dead yet even though he was kicking his ass all over the concrete.

All EMIYA was able to do against Cu was manage a slow death, as opposed to a quick one. All those false openings just meant Cu would do things like hit him with the blunt end of his spear, kick him, or only very lightly graze him with the speartip, rather than instantly killing him, but EMIYA could only produce so many false openings before he would run out of ideas, or before the light damage he had been accruing would overwhelm him. Even when it came down to NP vs. NP, Rho Aias was defeated, and EMIYA was wounded decisively by it. The only reason Cu didn't finish him off is because he figured out that EMIYA was just stalling for the right time to go kill Caster and that they weren't really enemies for the moment.

Berserker is the one who praised Archer's skill, wishing he could have been sane to be able to fully appreciate it and face it with his own skill.
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>>149463531
Fuuma is pretty god for Star-gen though.
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>>149463516
Okay, thanks.
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>>149463718
Archer out of UBW vs Archer in UBW.
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>>149463282
Because less than two minutes after summoning her he was giving her tongue. And then he died. What follows is she went into full Allahu Snackbar mode to honor his name just so he wouldn't be the guy who accidentally got himself killed after summoning a useless servant. And then there's the fuckload of misery coming her way with stuff like her bumping into Arash, her serving Manaka, her killing Tatsumi, and everything about Paracelsus.
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Anyone have the link to the Pastebin of Summary Anon's work for this event? (and the event before this one too)

I'm asking so I can add it to the Translations pastebin in the OP
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>>149463647
Before America I never expected Finn to be so hilarious.
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>>149463647
Will he ever be more than Lancer Emiya?
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>>149463903
Archer didn't use UBW against Herk
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>>149461128
I did a single ten roll on day one and the first thing in it was cowtits. All I actually wanted was the kiyo/fox ce and I got that with one of the tickets later so I'm okay with it.
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>>149464013
He can be a tank if you level up his evade to 10.
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>>149463914
>everything about Paracelsus
You'll see, Dr. P will turn out to be the true hero of the story in the end. He did nothing wrong.
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>>149464026
Oh yeah that was only in the DEEN Version, i guess you could say it was implied but that would be a weak argument with next to no actual proof.

I guess Cu is just a really bad match-up or archer was holding back for whatever reason.
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>>149463903

UBW doesn't improve Archer's skill. All it does is reduce the cost of tracing weapons to peanuts.
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>>149464013
He is better than Emiya by the virtue of having a buff and NP that actually complement each other.
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>>149463914
>everything about Paracelsus
Was Paracelsus really that bad in fragments? he is so nice to Guda.
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>>149464013
Lorewise he is a pretty solid Servant stat wise with many NPs and a thumb that can "reveal all mysteries" whatever that means.
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>>149463914
>Because less than two minutes after summoning her he was giving her tongue.
What do you mean by this?
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>>149464231
He betrayed his Master (and Misaya's trust, thus breaking her heart and ruining her life), served as a remote relay for a curse, revived a dead body just to wage psychological warfare on Hassan, and contributed to the kidnapping of countless little girls as sacrifices to the Beast.
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>>149464443
He was so allured by her that he tried to fuck her on sight. He died just after that of course because of the whole poison body thing.
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>>149464170

Cu is a tremendously bad matchup for Archer because of Protection from Arrows. Archer effectively can only fight him in close combat, his weakest point, and Cu is both more skilled and has way better stats than him. Add on top of that the fact that Gae Bolg defeats Rho Aias, and for all intents and purposes we can safely say that Archer is incapable of beating Lancer in a fight.

Archer did hold back against Lancer in the first battle against him, as proven by him only using Byakuya at first, but Lancer was also holding back, and in the second battle Lancer's described as an opponent that Archer can only hold out against because he had experience already fighting him and could use that with Eye of the Mind to figure out ways to prolong the inevitable.
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>>149464443
Doing what any retard waifufag would do
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>>149463914
>less than two minutes after summoning her he was giving her tongue.
So her master did exactly the same thing that most anons would do?
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>>149463647
Will we get older Finn that was in Zero
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>>149461128
two 10 rolls.
Only 1 5* CE and two 4* CE
glad to know rate still shit as always
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Fourteen hours, or so.
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>>149463718
>At no point did Cu call EMIYA's swordsmanship amazing.

Cu is the fastest Heroic Spirit, and probably the most skilled lancer there is. And Emiya was able to keep him from being able to land a decisive blow through skill. that's called "being fucking good" then Lancer literally was confused at how someone as good as he is didn't stick it out with Rin because together they might have been able to outright win the war. Everyone appreciates Emiya's skill. Lancer hated the fact he didn't apply that skill and experience in a more "dignified" way.

If Gary Kasparov was like "you're this fucking good?" that's akin to being told "you're fucking amazing"
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>>149464524
Did he at least insert his cock? How did Zill react?
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>>149464013
He's way better than Emiya. He can actually make use of his arts buff and his taunt dodge is great, it'd be even greater if the cooldown was shorter. He works really well in an arts team.
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>>149464612
I'm pretty sure that Finn is that kind of hero you can summon many versions of him in different classes each with a different set of NPs and skills, going by this line.

>Having mastered magic and wisdom, originally he would be endowed with many abilities and Noble Phantasms.
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>>149463916
You can find his posts by searching the archive for posts with his name and with images, which filters out most of the garbage posts.

https://boards.fireden.net/vg/search/username/Summary%20anon/filter/text/

Go West: http://pastebin.com/BCPVdefZ
Onigashima: http://pastebin.com/bTf7YF9f (looks like he still has to update it with the second half)
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>>149461128
Started play week ago.
Friend give me alter acc with quartz.
Did 3 40-rolls - Minamoto, Tamamo no Mae.
Farm event and got 14 tickets. I want Ibaraki, but I have NP2 Minamoto.
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>>149464703
>Cu is the fastest Heroic Spirit
I thought Achilles was.
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>>149464231
The thing he did to her was gift her the reanimated corpse of Jekyll's master. It's possible he didn't intend for it to cause her grief, because he really does seem to pity her, but just the same it made her even more of an emotional wreck than she already was.

>>149464443
It means her master walked up to her and kissed her with tongue. She appeared in the circle, he immediately got turned on and awkwardly asked her if she was really his servant and if she would do what he asked of her. She said yes, and then he walked up to kiss her. And then he died without really understanding what was going on. That's the sort of dumb fuck he was.
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>>149464908
He was a moron but he was also extremely unlucky. From all the servant he could summon, he got the one with a poisonnous body.
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>>149464548
Bakuya, not Byakuya.
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>>149464564
Ayup.
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>>149464703
>fastest heroic spirit
That's Achilles, or Dantes when he's using his NP.

>most skilled lancer there is
That's more than likely Karna.
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>>149464703
>Cu is the fastest Heroic Spirit
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>>149464908
Did she like it?
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>>149464703

>And Emiya was able to keep him from being able to land a decisive blow through skill

Not skill. Prior experience fighting him when Lancer was holding back due to the command spell, as well as Clairvoyance (which allowed him to track Lancer's movements despite being so fast that he could bolt behind him in an instant), and Eye of the Mind, which is experience coupled with predictions (Batman style fight processing). All these things combined are what allowed Archer to hold out against Lancer despite the odds. In terms of skill, Archer can overwhelm losers like Cursed Arm Hassan, but he's unable to compete with any big names like Arturia or Cu.

>If Gary Kasparov was like "you're this fucking good?" that's akin to being told "you're fucking amazing"

Lancer never said anything like that. He never once implied that EMIYA was incredibly skilled, the only reason he got upset was because EMIYA simply would not die even though he kept targeting what seemed to be major openings, and he still couldn't figure out who the fuck EMIYA actually was even though EMIYA deduced his identity after one single bout (a running theme from their first battle).
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>>149464887
It's directly said that Cu is the fastest heroic spirit repeatedly in the VN. I guess Achilles NP might not be being accounted for there consider Lancer is just that fast without one. I'm not a fan of how they did Achilles in general.

>>149464548
Emiya was in a pretty poor position mana wise at that point wasn't he?

also Lancer considered the Aius to have blocked his spear and was super pissed about that. Without the stat advantage Emiya would not be that far behind lancer imo.
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>>149464908
>Paracelsus
Since he was hailed as the greatest alchemist of all time, I do wonder if he couldn't have whipped up a potion for immunity to poisons.
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>>149465198
I want to cuddle with nobu
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>>149464908
It's not really his fault. In addition to poisoned body, she also exudes a massive amount of pheromones, or whatever is it that powers up her allure ability. Few males can resist her without some kind of protection.
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>>149465184
Post yfw he's a surprise story unlock like Li Shuwen
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>>149465193
>>149464703
He is among the fastest, but he is not the fastest.
He was said to be in the top 3 if I remember correctly.
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>>149465193
>the VN
>the 12 year old VN that has been retconned by multiple sources
>b-but it's still canon for this thing
>despite literally being contradicted on this explicit thing

Is this related to that conversation yesterday about finding someone as autistic as Miguel to shitpost about another Servant?
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>>149465226
Given that he diluted Zill's poison to create the drug used to pacify Beast's sacrifices, he probably can.
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>>149464703
>cu
>fast
>couldn't even catch up shirou early vn
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>>149465226
He can go near her and troll her at will without suffering any ill effects, safe to say he already has.
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>>149465193

>Emiya was in a pretty poor position mana wise at that point wasn't he?

No, he had Caster as a master.

>also Lancer considered the Aius to have blocked his spear and was super pissed about that.

Because Gae Bolg is supposed to be a sure-kill attack when thrown, regardless of shields or obstacles. The fact that Archer survived means Rho Aias technically defeated it, but Archer was still heavily wounded by it, and Archer also was impressed that the spear beat his shield that was renowned for blocking spears.
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>>149465191
>Not skill. Prior experience fighting him when Lancer was holding back due to the command spell, as well as Clairvoyance (which allowed him to track Lancer's movements despite being so fast that he could bolt behind him in an instant), and Eye of the Mind, which is experience coupled with predictions (Batman style fight processing). All these things combined are what allowed Archer to hold out against Lancer despite the odds. In terms of skill, Archer can overwhelm losers like Cursed Arm Hassan, but he's unable to compete with any big names like Arturia or Cu.

And the VN repeatedly says that these are things Emiya has attiend through skill.

>I don't get it, you switched to caster's side even though you are this strong?

And from a more character based level the fact that Emiya is skilled but lacking in pride makes him immensely angry. He outright says as such.

>>149465174
>That's more than likely Karna.

Literally the VN's word that he's the best. Considering Karna has no business being a lancer, let alone being a good heroic spirit.
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>>149465350
Huh. Somehow I figure she'd probably have appreciated that sort of gift more than... well, what he actually gave her.

Then again, he wouldn't be the Paracelsus we all know and love if he didn't find a way to twist the knife in a person's emotional wounds somehow.
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So just to make sure, the gatcha will switch to the Camelot one at 19:00 JST right? That means 3:00 AM PST?
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>>149465458
>Literally the VN's word that he's the best. Considering Karna has no business being a lancer, let alone being a good heroic spirit.

Apoc directly calls Karna "the pinnacle of spearmen" and he's noted multiple times to have surpassed anything humanity is capable of, since his technique has shot up into the realm of the divine. In any case, 8/10 bait, nearly thought you were serious until that last sentence.
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>>149465458
>VN's word that he's the best
Try to find that source and you will see how it is false.
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>>149464908
>poisonous
>Mamiko
>Assassin
Is she a loli Semiramis?
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>>149465191
This is true, EMIYA can only fight defensively against most high tier servants, depending on compatibility he can get a win if they fall for his unorthodox style of combat.
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>>149464703
>and probably the most skilled lancer there is
HAHAHAHAHAHA no.

Apo materials directly state no Lancer other than Karna could handle Vlad. So Karna > Vlad > all other Lancers
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>>149465386
>No, he had Caster as a master.

I'm not so sure about the mana she could provide considering she's providing it for 3-4 people at that point. Though I'm more than willing to accept him being at least in a good position. Though I think he'd be better with Rin still. But that's just my thoughts.

>>149465374
Drama > what "should" happen in every good story.

>>149465301
Directly said he's the fastest heroic spirit, the most agile lancer, and top 3 in terms of skill with the spear.
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>>149465340
I hope that isn't the case.
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>>149465538
He was in an altered state of mind though, being in the presence of someone close to the Root; He doesn't seem to be this boorish all the time.
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>>149465659
i'm sorry but when shirou blocks you with a paper you're not fast
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>>149465601
Not young enough to be a loli in terms of body or age.
She simply has pretty small tits.
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>>149465552
14:00~19:00 maintenance
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>>149465226
I'm a bit let down by Sakurai's take on the guy. The historical Paracelsus seems like a he was a riot. Then there's all sorts of cool tidbits from his life, like all his travels around Europe and in the Ottoman Empire, and from his legacy, like how people went on pilgrimages just to visit his grave.
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Gawain!
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>>149465702
I'm starting to think that it is, I'm seeing parallels between "read materials" and "literally the VNs word"
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>>149465613
>Vlad. So Karna > Vlad > all other Lancers
Haha no Enkidu>>>>>the rest
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>>149465301
Even qorse, that's EMIYA's unreliable info. He thought Cu was the first to ever go past all those layers of Rho Aias, but the materials directly state Cu was not the only one who went through all the layers.

Also EMIYA said fastests LANCERS.
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Semiramis when?
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>>149465564
>someone who barely ever used a spear
>pinnacle of spear men

>>149465613
firstly, that's just how nasu writes, but second, there are often quirks in the Japanese with things like this, I won't claim to know nearly enough about the language to give a translation, but there are some really quirky things that get very lost in translation if the person isn't incredibly aware of it.

I mean Nasu always says "this guy is the bestest ever", I think I'm gonna start taking it as a bit of unreliable narration now that I think about it, even though I will then go back and use the VN's word ad verbetem because I'm a massive hypocrite but you know.
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>>149465458
>let alone being a good heroic spirit.
That's when you revealed yourself.
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>>149465828
I'll second this.
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>>149465458

>And the VN repeatedly says that these are things Emiya has attiend through skill.

Through hard work and effort. Not skill. It never once implies that EMIYA attained everything he has through skill. In fact, the exact opposite is pretty explicitly stated. EMIYA took what little he was gifted with talent wise, and developed it as far as he could. He will never be able to match anyone like Cu or Arturia in terms of skill, because they were born with heaping amounts of talent that they could build upon.

>And from a more character based level the fact that Emiya is skilled but lacking in pride makes him immensely angry. He outright says as such.

Yes, he is skilled. He can fight very well for an Archer in close combat. But he's not amazingly skilled. Not once does Lancer ever imply that. Not once does anyone ever imply that. Not even Berserker.

And that's only one of the many reasons Lancer gets pissed off at him. The unknown identity thing is the last thing that Lancer brings up in that fight, so that's definitely the most important thing to him.

>Literally the VN's word that he's the best.

The VN never called Cu the best Lancer, nor the fastest. In the VN, in the first Archer battle, Archer says there are only a handful of Heroic Spirits on the same level of speed as Cu. In the UBW anime, that line is altered to him saying there aren't three spearmen as good as Cu in the world.
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>>149456253
She will have boobs, it's the spear which causes the boobs, not the Altering. The Altering just makes her eat tons of junk food and act like a cold hearted tsundere.
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>>149465816
I' sure Gawain would be more pleased if he was a cute little girl.
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>>149465828
Sorry Gilcuck but Apo Materials > your headcanon.

Karna > Vlad > All other Lancers, deal with it.
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>>149465903
I just have an burning hatred of karna because he has no business in the role that the franchise gives him and I get close to refusing to even acknowledge his presence at times.
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>>149465981

>filename is not goldfish.jpg

I HATE IT.
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>>149465959
Gawain turns into a loli at night.
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>>149465721
Yeah, I remembered he has lines regretting some of the shit he did in My Room.

So basically like everything else that happens in Fragments: thanks Manaka.
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>>149466008
nice headcanon
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>>149466008
Melvin please, using EMIYA to fall back on after saber lancelot is just sad.
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>Out less than 2 months
>Multiple figures announced

Proof that whaling translates to figures
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>>149465981
I won't like it so you keep posting it
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>>149465894
Materials have no room for interpretation meme. They are direct, clear and 100% objective. This shit is made to make the readers understand what's going on on an objective matter, diaregarding chaacters PoV and other shit like that.

Apocrypha Materials already said who are the 2 top Lancers.
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>>149457993
The annoying part about interlewds is that it's unlikely you'll be able to do them with the servant you're interlewding. Probably because of Class Counters or the servant being anything under SR and pretty useless. (Looking at you Marie and Martha)
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>>149466113
Yep, before meeting Manaka he actually seemed like a decent man, eschewing the whole 'cold, ruthless magus' mentality.
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>>149465659

>I'm not so sure about the mana she could provide considering she's providing it for 3-4 people at that point.

She gave Assassin a gradually releasing seal of mana when she originally summoned him, to last for the duration of the war. She was not actively supplying him with mana. That's why Assassin persisted after her death.

She also gave Saber no mana, because she was trying to break her will and needed her at her weakest.

The only Servant she had to actually fuel properly was Archer, and his stats are so low that fueling him would never put much strain on a magus of Medea's caliber.

>Though I think he'd be better with Rin still.

Rin is hilariously beneath Caster as a magus.
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>>149465894
>>149466032
>>someone who barely ever used a spear
The maharathi warriors are supposed to be masters at all styles of combat and weapons. Yes, Karna is a famed archer like Arjuna, but they are supposed to be masters with other weapons too. I agree that is a bit of a stretch what Nasuverse does but it's not" barely used a spear" either.
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Which servant gives the best footjobs?
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>>149466109
>at night
That's perfect for bed. I want to fuck Gawain.
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does sombody have that pages of that fate manga of gill and enkidu going all out in battle dragon ball z style?
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>>149466187
Who cares?
She's not Scathath,Jeanne or
Arturia tier.
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>>149466075
This guy gets it.
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>>149465828
Enkidu's translated f/sf chapter when?
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>>149466307
Funny you say that as everyone you mentioned along side her got figures announced.
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>>149465828
Enkidu is not even a spearman, Enkidu is a spear.
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I'm expecting at least three or four unexpected servants in the story, not counting Liz.

Also, no one we know about really fits the super bad guy mold at the moment. So the main villain is still unknown. Nasu said that arc 5 was the first true taste of FGO as it became true chaos, but he said chapter 6 would go even further with a world-wide threat.

>Everything up to Chapter 4 was written to feel as if we’re “tracing the journey of humanity up to now.” On the other hand, from Chapter 5 on, it’ll start to feel like “the real FGO starts here,” and the fantasy elements start becoming stronger. Chapter 6 and 7 will just be plain “the world is in a huge crisis!”

We need a crazy villain to fit this idea. I'm guessing that the villain will pretend to be Saber for the first half of it.
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>>149466386
we do not defile saints anon.
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>>149466186
What the fuck are you talking about?

>>149466136
>During the great battle in the second volume, Lancer of Black’s repeated attacks weren’t half-hearted at all, and any other Lancer besides Karna wouldn’t have been able to withstand it.
>this is headcanon according to Gilcucks
WEW
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Does anyone have the gif of Xuanzang's boobs from the CM?
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>>149465894
Karna was a Maharathi, which meant that he had to be an absolute master of all weaponry at the time, including spears. He was most famed for using a bow, but he still would have been a master spearman, and is explicitly able to wield Vasavi better than Indra can in Fate. It doesn't matter if you think that's bullshit, because it's what's canon.
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>>149466393
more than her desu
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>started event with 2 plumes
>ended with 44
Thank you based GOLDEN
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>>149466239
He's a very 'big picture' kind of guy. He starts out with the best intentions, does something terrible because he thinks that it's rationally the course of action that will bring the most good, then it turns out everything is terrible and he's left saying "I fucked up and now everything is terrible, somebody please stop me!"
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>>149466008

>Enkidu can just recreate Vlad's stakes out of clay

Radfags on suicide watch
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>>149466564
We had a different one for Jerusalot
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>>149466473
>Mordred won't pop up and help you kill Knights of the round because she was already a primary character in london.
That's somewhat of a shame.
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>>149466008
>Vlad
>good anywhere outside Romania
>Enkidu not the strongest Lancer when he's a literal weapon
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>>149465918
>EMIYA took what little he was gifted with talent wise

It was the exact opposite, it wasn't something he was born with but pure work, training and skill.

I strongly believe your interpretation of Lancer's disdain is misplaced.

There are layers and layers that scream to me that lancer is frustrated at Emiya for his lack of pride in his ability, his willingness to say things like "you can make up for not having pride by winning", the fact he can't figure out who he is builds on that. And I feel like my interpretation fits more thematically with the character. Emiya at this point is not interested in being a hero, ergo he pisses off a traditional hero because he doesn't care about the things he thinks heroes should, etc. We can disagree on it forever I suppose, and really I suppose I also can't say the way you read it is wrong, because that's just how you see it and it's just as valid.

>>149466259
I suppose that's fair.

>>149466232
For something literally called apocrypha I find that entire post fantastically ironic.
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>>149466520
>/tv/ meme
sorry but materials can only prove me right, not you.
Enkidu is the strongest lancer, deal with it.
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>all these nendos announced
>wonder if going to live enough to see them released
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>>149461128
I did a few singles and got three swallow CEs. After getting all the recent Quartz, I was about to do a ten roll, but got tits from a ticket.
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>>149466496
http://danbooru.donmai.us/posts/2249634
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>>149466685
>Implying Skull man isn't Mordred Alter
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>>149466384
>INTENSE REPUDIATION
I get the feeling this phrase would have benefited from a less literal translation.
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>>149466032
Karna being a hero is directly stated in the Mahab anyway, and interpretations of him as one of the more moral and good people in the Mahab have been popular for quite a while. It is up to you though.

Still, why do you think he should have no business being a good heroic spirit? If nothing else, he deserves to be an incredibly powerful Servant.
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>>149466723
>For something literally called apocrypha I find that entire post fantastically ironic.
To be fair Apocrypha just separates itself for the main timeline in the Third War. Everything else is the same.
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>>149466008
don't use Vlad for your shitposting you fucking piece of shit
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>>149466679
Post the newer one if you have it then.
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>>149466786
>Deflowering a saint
See you in hell.
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>>149466278
You already posted her
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>>149466928
I know we had one that someone was sort of working on before they gave up, we probably just need to find a new one for now.
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>>149466239
That's why he was summoned in the first place. Papa Reiroukan admired Paracelsus for being a humanist.
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>>149466973
The guy who usually makes them said he's working on it.
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>>149466797
As neat as that could be, it'll be King-hassan or EMIYA Alter that we got from the dataleak. Both would be cool as heck though.
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>tfw FGO 2.0
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>>149466564
>>149466973
>>149467038
This is the one I gave him

Not sure the progress on it
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>>149466856
Well idk exactly, I just think it's fantastic to say "the not genuine materials say this is true"

>>149466836
>Still, why do you think he should have no business being a good heroic spirit? If nothing else, he deserves to be an incredibly powerful Servant.

Hindu mythology in general is blown massively out of proportion. Even no names in it should be like fucking Hercules. We can't take that at it's own word if we're going to equate it into a cohesive system.
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>>149466885
>gilcuck again saying stating facts = shitposting
JUST
U
S
T

>>149466772
>materials can only prove me right, not you
Saved, thanks for accepting you disregars materials.

>>149466693
Apo Materials > You

Vlad > Enkidu

>Enkidu not the strongest Lancer when he's a literal weapon
Oh so that means Lancelot can KoH Gilcucks waifu.
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>>149467083
Kojiro would make a pretty hot chick if he was one.
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>>149467114

>Not sure the progress on it

I already have some stuff in, but i'm going to wait at least for the first few days in case we get something like Edison in America.
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>>149467164
if servants are weapons why didn't lancelot KoH arturia?
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>>149467198
a lot of guys would
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>>149467142
Maybe it is but that's how it is. It was even nerfed to fit in Nasuverse compared to how it is in the actual myth, but that doesn't mean they aren't top tier Heroic Spirits (something directly said many times at this point).
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>>149466008
Enkidu can easily counter vlad's spear spam.
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>>149467142
>Hindu mythology in general is blown massively out of proportion. Even no names in it should be like fucking Hercules. We can't take that at it's own word if we're going to equate it into a cohesive system.

That doesn't equate to "big name hindu servants shouldn't even be good" though. Karna, Arjuna, and Rama are the biggest three Hindu Servants that've been released so far, and they're all pretty huge names. I don't see why Karna shouldn't even be a good Heroic Spirit. Besides, all three were already heavily nerfed to fit in the system, so you've no real basis to complain.
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>>149466976
And that's exactly why his betrayal stings deep; seeing such a man lose his way simply because of a moment of weakness, and degenerate into a simple magus is infuriating. For someone who sees all modern magi as his children, he doesn't seem like the best role model at times.
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>>149467164

>>149467241
Those dogs better end up screaming KEK.
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Someone has the filter for Melvin posts?
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>>149467164
Guess that means you admit Heracles is the strongest famous heroic spirit and Gilgamesh the strongest obscure heroic spirit. Since materials say so.
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>>149467317
I want to impregnate female david and fill her with my uncircumcised cock!
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>>149467164
But materials say that Enkidu is the strongest, deal with it.
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>>149467317
Why is Siegfried glowing so much.
Is his Dragon dick begging to be cut?
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>>149467359
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>>149467371
Why does miguel keep coming back when he's been defeated multiple times already over the past few weeks

>muh EAM
>muh s-sword beam
>m-muh 5*
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The event ends in 13 hours, post your high scores.
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>>149467332
And I don't have to accept or even acknowledge them if I don't want to, because it's fiction, it's made up. If I want to be ass blasted I will be dammit!

But it also vexes that they take an interesting character and story and then go "actually he's shit, this is the hot shit now" with someone so uninteresting to me I'd rather pay attention to literal dog shit on the street.
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>>149467371
materials, gilgameme, gilcuck, herkek, just,
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>>149467473
>muh 5*
this was so funny he didn't show up for a week after the BTFO
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>>149467339
That's not what materials say.

>>149467373
>Heracles is the strongest famous heroic spirit and Gilgamesh the strongest obscure heroic spirit
>initial discussions are paet of the end product
Guess Illya is immortal as long as Herkek is alive too and Medea is the final boss of FSN. Gilgamesh doesn't exist.
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>>149467142
>Even no names in it should be like fucking Hercules.
Not really, even the other Pandavas not being Arjuna should be fairly average powerlevel wise. The only ones who deserve such wank are Arjuna, Karna, Bhisma, Drona, Abhimanyu and Ashwatthama. I don't count Krishna because he is basically a god.
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>>149467483
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>>149467342
As the phrase goes.

"I don't like it, that means it's shit"

It's no different to people being "hurr this guy is shit because I like this guy more"

And you guys really don't have much experience with technical manuals, writers guides and official materials style books do you?

They don't mean shit when a writer sits down and goes "I wanna do a thing"
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>they keep giving him (You)s
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>>149467593
Sorry, FSN materials > you
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>>149467575
His art even looks more trash than originally anticipated with that shit colored armor
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>>149467487
That gives you no right or reason to discount them at all from the setting.

They're heroes in their own right as is EMIYA with counter guardian shenanigans.
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>>149467441
>But materials say that Enkidu is the strongest,
CITATION NEEDED.

Also Karna is instawin so Karna > Memekidu
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>>149467593
Arturia > others
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>>149467487
So basically you are a hater who can't stand that Karna is popular and has to make it known to everyone else for some twisted reason. That's rather sad.
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Post servants that can canonically handle both Gilgamesh and lancelot by themselves
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>>149467483

I'm glad it's over.
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>>149467575
He said he didn't show up because he didn't like the event and was playing other games.
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Post Siegfried to lure Bryn back into the gacha.
yeah i know she's a really medicore 5* but she's cute and works together well enough with Yorimitsu
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>Jetfag is so delusional he thinks he actually is UNRIVALLED

WEW
E
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>>149467865
>mediocre

I have her and she is utter trash
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>>149467670
Can you fuck his boipussy?
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>>149467805
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>>149467862
Sure.
More like he couldn't handle gawain 4* and the superior UNRIVALED
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>>149467483
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>>149467805
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>>149465815
I know what you mean. It's hilarious how much butthurt he seems to have caused back when he was alive.

>Richard Baxter for example described Paracelsus as a 'Drunken Conjuror, who had converse with Devils', and he rejected the natural magic which was so often associated with Paracelsism on the grounds that it's exponents 'give us neither Reasons with Aristotle, not Miracles with Christ . . . to cause us to believe any of their new Revelations'. The presbyterian Thomas Hall attacked Paracelsus for much the same reasons referring to him as 'a Libertine . . . Drunkard' and a 'man of little learning' of whom it was frequently said that he conversed 'constantly with familiars' and had 'the Devill for his Purse-Bearer'. Hall much preferred the traditional authority of Aristotle and Galen ('the Father of Physitians') as did the presbyterian physician Robert Wittie. Of Paracelsus, Wittie reported that he 'never went to church . . . and seemed slightly to regard God and his Ordinances.

>Most of Paracelsus' writings were published after his death—and they kept inciting controversy over subsequent decades. He was accused of leading “a legion of homicide physicians,” and his books were called “heretical and scandalous.”
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>>149467483
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Tell me about lancelot

Why does he wear the helmet?
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>>149467915
Don't say that, she's been bullied enough already
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>>149467805
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>>149467976
>didn't even finish the ladder
How?
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>>149467483
202m because fuck raids
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>>149467915
If you say mean things you'll scare her away anon.
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>>149467805
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Tell me when Melvin fucks off
Bye /fgog/
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>>149467671
So Gilgamesh doesn't exist in TM universe? Nice.
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>>149467805
Jesus.
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>>149468060
No she won't she's chained to my room and I don't even send her onto missions with me since I got shumeme now

>>149468034
I'm gonna bully her more
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>>149467702
>That gives you no right or reason to discount them at all from the setting.

I don't need a right or reason, I just can and I choose to do so. If they give me a reason to find them worth more than a stain then I can reconsider, or force them into a story I like enough and force me to accept them for their role.

Emiya however I find a very interesting character and the story that spawned the franchise revolves in no small part around him thematically and on several other levels. And I adore the themes in UBW.

>>149467754
Call the police, I didn't bring it up.
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>>149467593
Okay.
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>>149467648
I don't get it. Are you saying that you don't like it, therefore you think it's shit, or are you criticising us for saying your opinion is shit because we don't like it? Cause neither of us did that.

And I really don't get what you meant in those last two lines.
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>>149468015
I recognize those blurbs. Do you also have on hand that quote where he embellishes himself?
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>>149468053
Ascend material maybe
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>>149467934
It's a girl.
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>>149467483
>>149467647
>>149468017
>>149467847
Why on earth didn't you save your dumplings until after the event ends for the inevitable qp exchange?
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>>149468125

Onii-Sama servant when?
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>>149468175
The former. I don't like it, thus I won't acknowledge it.

And what I mean is "don't put your faith in materials, they'll change the second anyone sits down to write something because they won't pay any attention to them"
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>>149467951
>those tiny boobs

utter trash
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>>149467483
200.136.851
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>>149468162
EMIYA would have a field day.
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>>149468219
Because I'm almost certain the rates are going suck ass and I prefer the 20+ additional plumes, bond points and 20+ Rider cookies that I farmed.
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>>149468275
>Medb
>Flat-chested
I mean, there should be a limit of retardation to be allowed access to the internet.
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>>149468053
2-3 tickets aren't worth the trouble
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>>149468219

Saber skill cookies, i need as much as i can get.
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>>149468352
Pretty flat desu
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>>149468139
>I didn't bring it up
Yeah, you did. People pointed out things that contradicted you on you saying Cu was the most skilled Lancer, and then you brought up your enormous hatred for Karna for no reason other than you prefer Arjuna and don't like how Nasu prefers Karna.

Before that, it was just a normal discussion, you were the one who started complaining that Karna had no business being even a good Heroic Spirit.
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Was he right?
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>>149468275
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>>149468439
That's what we like to call "normal". Not flat-chested, not cow tits.
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>>149468450
Well people stopped talking about the other parts of the conversation and I can't talk to myself now can I?
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>>149468251
I think you're blowing that second point out of proportion, to be honest. Materials are all we have to point to things, so saying we can't believe anything in them just because it might be contradicted at a later time is a little dumb.

Plus, materials are told without bias or embellishment, which is different to how a VN is written.
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>>149468139
I like EMIYA too, he's my favorite; I also agree with your 2nd point but you have to know that's not how you go about these things.

But there's no point arguing if you're so set on it.
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>>149468139
>>149468251
>>149468586
Then don't whine because other people call you on it or use it to argue about something you say, because it just makes you seem like a hypocrite or an outright deluded individual.

Being delusional to that point just will make you more bitter. Like it or not it's part of the canon so you will have to deal with it to that level at the very least, you liking or not liking it is irrelevant to that point. People will still discuss it and bring it because it's part of the franchise.
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>>149468367
3BP drops plumes and rider cookies very frequently, you are literally wasting 40-50 free plumes
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>he isn't saving for Babylon so he can have the strongest lancer, caster, and archer all at once
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>>149468510
>down syndrome rin
delete this trash
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>>149465458
I don't think that Karna is the most skilled but Cu doesn't do attack 1 rank higher because of his skill.
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>>149468162
All I see is something that can't handle Vlad attacks.
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>>149468497
not really.
Him wanting a a "just duel" is as selfish as wanting as many advantages and securing a victory.

he's just being a baby about it and being short-sighted about JUSTICE
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>>149468209
even better
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>>149467317
Why is David there? Surely Leonidas fits better, considering the rest are Miki boys.
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>>149468586
That's not the same thing at all. People responded to something that you brought up out of nowhere. It had been a discussion about the relative skills and speeds of several Lancers before you went on about how you hated Karna with a passion, then people picked up on that.

And at least one person responded to your other points, so you don't have an excuse. You brought up the whole deal with hating Karna because you prefer Arjuna, not anyone else.
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>>149468660
But they're saving archer Heracles for act 2
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>>149468069
nice memes
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>>149468641
I'll be fine
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>>149468660
>lancer
Karna is out already
>caster
NR is out already
>archer
I doubt Alcides will show up in Babylon
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>>149468367
I'm going to laugh so hard when you don't get even 10 million QP from all those refills.

Would be wise to hurry up and spend them all on 3BP while you still can.
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>>149468840
Don't forget saberface Hippolita
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>>149468660
And Assassin.
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>>149468602
>materials are told without bias or embellishment

Oh please writers bias exists.

>Materials are all we have to point to things

You could just not point to anything and try to have conversations rather than power level pissing matches where people are aiming to "win" I mean I initially took a bit of a tone just because I reflexively went a bit aggressive with saying "Emiya isn't shit" then I reeled myself in a bit because pissing matches are usually poor ideas.

>>149468609
I think it's perfectly valid if a little... or quite a bit extreme.
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Guys remind me, its datamining still a thing? Should we expect ascension galleries right after new apk release? Or right after maintenance?
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>>149468808
It's the artist's ships.
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>>149468904
Why is Nursey Rhyme the strongest caster? i thought 9 tails tamamo was/would be the strongest.
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>>149468874
Impressive, but I like my servants to have skills leveled to 10.
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>>149468438
>half of these anons are dead already
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>>149468924
DON'T CALL ME A SABERFACE
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>>149468181
This one?

>O', you hypocrites, who despise the truths taught you by a true physician, who is himself instructed by Nature, and is the son of God himself! Come, then, and listen, impostors who prevail only by authority of your high positions! After my death, my disciples will burst forth and drag you to the light, and shall expose your dirty drugs, wherewith up to this time you have compassed the death of princes, and the most invincible magnates of the Christian world. Woe for your necks in the day of judgment! I know the monarchy will be mine. Mine, too, will be the honor and the glory. Not that I praise myself: Nature praises me. Of her I am born, her I follow. She knows me, and I know her. The light which is in her I have beheld in her; outside, too. I have proved the same in the figure of the microcosm, and found it in the universe.
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>>149468848
Thank you, newfag-kun
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>>149468987
Tamamo doesn't have Jabberwocky or mind wipe
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>>149468957
Only Chinese datamining still exists in some form, and it'll be delayed awhile.

DW managed to effectively stop most datamining recently, with a bit of effort.
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>>149468981
wasn't there an artist that made R63 Kojiro ,cu and Sieg? is this the same guy?
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>>149468820
>because you prefer Arjuna

I literally never even said that. I don't like either of them!

and oh please, it wasn't a discussion it was an attempt to have the last word.
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>>149468808
>Miki boys
What?
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>>149468874
A single 5* servant like Waver can take 70 plumes just like that. I wouldn't feel safe yet.

Not to mention you are not getting the Rider skill cookies either by abstaining.
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>>149468660
>implying Caster Gil won't be a time-limited 5*
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>>149468950
I'm not saying that it doesn't exist, but you can't argue that materials are written in a much more objective and factual tone than the narration of a VN.

And you were the one who started the powerlevel shit when you started going on about how EMIYA is skilled enough that Cu started going on about how amazingly skilled he is, and then talking about how Cu is the fastest and most skilled Lancer.
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>>149468840
>>149468904
I meant gameplay and personality, senpai. Who cares about powelevels?
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>>149468438
>[email protected]
kek
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>>149469136
Voice actor, they all have the same voice actor if you included Leonidas
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>>149469124
>But it also vexes that they take an interesting character and story and then go "actually he's shit, this is the hot shit now" with someone so uninteresting to me I'd rather pay attention to literal dog shit on the street.

My mistake, I thought that this was you saying that you found Arjuna and his story interesting and were annoyed that Nasu preferred Karna and shilled him more.

Still, attempting to have the last word by insulting a character who plenty of people like and who's the favorite of a few people here was a stupid idea.
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>>149469093
Why does he look like Stephen Fry? And why is his hat wearing a porcupine?
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>>149469136
Kojiro,Leo,P and Fionn have the same VA
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>>149469112
Jabberwocky is basically a Uber-servant right? something in the levels of Gorgon Medusa and LoD Vlad?
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How would you feel if Eric of all people got new animations for some reason?
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>>149468660
I have an alt for that.
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>>149468987
It's just people blowing Jabberwocky and Nameless Forest out of proportion again.
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>>149469124
I think he though you was that Arjunafag that sometimes show up.

The whole problem still that whining about other people bringing up something that is canon and part of the franchise because you don't like it would get you nowhere, because at the end of the day other people will still bring it up to correct you even if you don't like it or acknowledge it.
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>>149469167
>And you were the one who started the powerlevel shit when you started going on about how EMIYA is skilled enough that Cu started going on about how amazingly skilled he is, and then talking about how Cu is the fastest and most skilled Lancer.

I'd argue the person who started that was the person who said Emiya was shit when I personally don't see any evidence of that.

And I think that while they do try to be more factual in tone this much I will grant. I don't see it as a productive avenue of discussion when fate isn't so much a game of who has the biggest number and most things aren't given detailed answers anyway. You don't know the exact penetrating power of Gae Bolg in RHA for example. if we did, then that would change things a bit.
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>>149469116
What do you mean by chinese datamining? Stuff like exact values on skills and NPs (those are pretty fast) or just the fact that only chinks do that now?
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>>149469162
He's for the post-Babylon Gil event that has Proto Gil, Caster Gil, and Kirei released with Enkidu, Gilgamesh, and Ko-Gil on rateup
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>>149468352
Her boobs is still tiny retard
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>>149469397
Basically
Few people can beat it on their own
Like Gil who can retrieve a vorpal blade
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>>149469093
Well he did win in a way.
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>>149469136
Servants voiced by Shini'ichirou Miki.
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>>149468438
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>yfw by the time emulator fags are able to play Camelot everyone else has already finished it
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>>149469516
i'm surpised we haven't seen EMIYA(assuming he's seen it) or Gil pull it out, it's basically a Gae-bolg tier attack that decapitates the enemy no matter what.
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>>149469515
See >>149468525
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>>149469582
New version of Bluestack can run the app.
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>>149469582
Do people actually use emulators for reasons other than cheating? What kind of poorfag can afford a decent PC but not a decent phone?
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>>149469458
The problem of anonymity is that you can't exactly easily have a cohesive discussion with people to build on. I can't say "I don't acknowledge these things" then expect people to know who I am next time discussion crops up. So I suppose in that way you're right.
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>>149469582
>3 apk versions in less than 3 weeks
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So we're going to get a 3* Genderbent Kojiro right?
because only females can get rarity bumped alternate forms.
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>>149469712
>Implying they have a decent pc
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>>149469712
Grand Order is very poorly optimised, some people don't like having to charge their phones every other hour to play.
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>>149469809
We're going to get genderbent Saberface Musashi.
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>>149469712
I don't think anybosy who plays with emulator does it because of cheating, since the cheatapk is also usable on phone.
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what's jabberwocky
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>>149469712
I have iphone 4s (cant run the game) and tablet Digma with 1 gb ram and 1.5 Ghz. I can only roll the gacha on it.
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>>149468015
>>149469093
Fragfags, did any of this get brought up in Fragments? Like, I hear all this talk about Pepper being controversial, but from what I've seen of him in GO I don't see why any magi would have any big issue with him. He just seems like a generic magus.
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>>149469572
Ah, the good ole days. I was the one who just got Attila from a single roll.
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>>149469896
I'd command my Kojiro to commit Seppuku with me if this happened.
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>>149469716
Not only that, they don't have to even follow your whim because at the end they have the same right as you, and the Nasuverse is what it is even if you don't want it to be like that. Your likes or dislikes at the end are irrelevant against that, it's just a personal preference that other people could or not could listen up to. So at the end is just counterproductive.
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>>149469467
>when I personally don't see any evidence of that.
See, this is the problem. That person didn't start a powerlevel argument, because they gave their opinion, which is something that's supported by a few different things.

You started the argument because you "personally" felt like a character you like was being hard done by, and started arguing on his behalf that he was actually incredibly skilled. That was when the argument started. EMIYA is skilled, but everything about his fighting style is designed to control where the enemy hits so he can predict it and block. Without that, he'd be overwhelmed, so clearly he isn't as skilled as other Servants who don't have to do that.

And while we don't know the exact specs, we can still debate based on what we do know, using the information given in the materials. Info in the novel is inherently untrustworthy if only because it's coming from the mouths of characters in the story rather than from an objective third person standpoint. I'm not saying that everything said in the novels is false, I'm just saying materials are more reliable than novels.
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When are we getting our own version of Cagliostro
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alessandro_Cagliostro
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>>149469838
So just keep charging the phone?
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>>149469712
It's more comfy to play on pc and even my Galaxy s7 is hot as fuck when I play this shit game.
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>>149469582
>emufags on suicide watch
>mfw
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>>149469930
Just the fact that he opposed the Association's methods, and got assassinated for it, IIRC.
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>>149470072
>mfw emu apk doesn't come out for 5 days and emufags can't roll for Ozzy
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>>149469582
>>149470072
Whatever makes you happy, anons.
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>>149470057
Most Android chargers are shit.
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>>149469993
Oh of course, but people can know what is productive and not to discuss when you can have some form of identifier. As unless you force something so hard you become Melvin, once the thread dies then everyone just forgets it and moves on, conversation goes back to square one. And the universe is what we all make of it individually, most people go one way sure, but that doesn't make it the alpha and omega.

Like interpretation of character. I mean in a lot of ways those of us that don't speak moon are operating based off someone's interpretation already, so we have second hand ones at best.
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>>149470057
The whole point of phones is that they are supposed to be portable. Charging them constantly while playing kind of defeats the purpose. It's inconvenient.
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>>149469907
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>>149469809
Cu Alter was 5*
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>>149470205
Get a good battery bank
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>>149470198
Not really, if that's so hard just should have bought a phone that didn't do the non-removable battery meme and have 5 charging as you use one.
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>>149469907
Read Alice in wonderland.
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>>149470161
>Post yfw Ozzyfag is an emufag
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>>149470260
so we're going to get a 4* Kojiro who isn't a fake spirit?
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>>149470273
>spend more money to play on your phone, because playing on emulator is Evil
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Strongest Saber: Arthur
Strongest Lancer: Enkidu
Strongest Archer: Gil
I don't give a shit about the rest.
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>>149470205
If you were playing on emu in the first place, you probably weren't moving much either. Just hook that thing up to your charger and play forever.
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>>149470050
They're going to have some fierce competition if they want to make Cagliostro a girl. If they do make him a man I think it'd be an instant defeat.
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>>149470317
Even I have the non-removable battery meme one and can manage just fine.
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>>149470201
Okay, I can get behind that. The thing is that is bound to happen again, so it should be treated more carefully or respecfully to avoid issues.
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>>149469930
He wanted to reveal the existence of the supernatural to the common masses. Obviously a lot of magi had an issue with that. They sent assassins after him because of it. Historically there actually were rumors that he was killed by assassins, or that shortly before he died he was attacked by assassins but dispatched them before dying of illness.
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>>149470351
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>>149470273
And you still don't see why people would play on emulators instead of paying for battery upgrades? As expected, you're retarded.
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>>149470350
That would be too cruel.
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>>149470014
>You started the argument because you "personally" felt like a character you like was being hard done by

And they felt that the character was weak because, they thought they saw evidence of that. It's the same shit. And I feel like you're operating on a bizarre idea of skill if doing something in an unorthodox way makes it not a skill to do. I mean this could easily be a linguistic disagreement you operating on one definition of a word and me on another one. That happens all the damn time.

And I would argue that it's entirely unproductive unless they give exact figures, better to talk about what we see in the story than operate of a vague description. But that's simply opinion I'm not going to say it's gibberish to do so completely. To exemplify a bit, to me it's like trying to discuss penetration values for tanks (because that's what I started with) if instead of experimentally verified figures for the amount of penetration through X amount of RHA, you just had "it can cut through a Bradley with ease"
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>>149465659
His speed being the best is retconned. Even Proto Cu is faster and Diarmuid has a higher agility stat. Karna has better speed feats and Achilles is outright faster taking into account his NP.
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>>149470394
Strongest Berserker: Enkidu
Strongest Caster: Gil
Strongest Assassin: Arthur
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>>149456086
>Design update for Erik Bloodaxe.
Okay, I know nobody really cares for memeaxe, but I'm curious what they'll do here.
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>>149470394
We don't know if Arthur has the same OP toys like Avalon and Rhogmyiand, but we do know Arthoria does have those. so i'd firmly put her above him.
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>>149470394
>Arthur
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>>149470437
>This is a 1000 year old girl (male)
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>>149470528
>buy a 400 non portable machine
>buy a 250 portable machine with extra packs that cost 15 bucks at most.
okay
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>>149469907
A dragon that cannot be killed except for with a blade which doesn't exist.
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>>149465828
Enkidu most likely isn't even a proper heroic spirit. He was summoned as fake and there's no clarification on his status.
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>>149470679
>400 non portable machine that is useful for everything
>250 portable machine that's a phone and a browser
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>>149470394
arthur is cute
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>>149470528
A good battery bank is for more than just Fate though, they're always handy to have.
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>>149470474
Given that would kill magic as a whole I can see why they did that.
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>>149470601
Well to me I would ask, firstly what was the point of saying he was the fastest ever in the first place, second, why is a much less important and renown figure apparently better, and third, would it swing back if they remade FSN accounting for "modern" lore, would we see stat revisions?
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>>149470597
Yes, but I'm specifically talking about the argument, which only started because you disagreed with it strongly enough that you felt you had to respond. Before, it was just an opinion, but you changed it into an argument. And no, I'm not saying he's not skilled, but I am saying that if his skill is focused on disrupting and predicting an enemy because he can't handle them if he doesn't know exactly where they're going to strike, then clearly he's not as skilled as someone who doesn't have to do that to survive and win battles.

And you can argue that, but powerlevel debates have been happening for years without proper figures. We're never, ever going to get exact figures when it comes to stuff like that, so you have to make do with what we do have. Sure, saying "it can cut through a Bradley with ease" isn't a proper value, but it's a feat, and if you know the specs of the tank then you can find a minimum penetrating power of that weapon. That's how people go about things.
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>>149470652
>>149470620
>Some shitty genderbend waifub8 so otaku losers eat up f/sn
>stronger than the real deal
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>>149470474
So he was basically a magical Richard Stallman?
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>>149465659
It was top 3 speed not skill.
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>>149470394
>>149470652
I think that Arthur and Seibah are the same shit if not for the different amount of time they was in possession of a dick
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>>149470939
But King Arthur was a woman in real life.
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>>149467865
I want her, because I'm convinced she works best with the GOLDEN CE from the Ibaraki event
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>>149470939
She's probably stronger than the Fujo bait generic ikemen,yea
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>>149470939
at this very moment, we have more information on Artoria, and that information shows that she's stronger. Until we get any confirmation that Arthur has Avalon and Rho that are equal or stronger than Artoria's i'll give it to her for now.
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>>149470859
First, the point was to hype up people as well as the fact that when the VN was written, he was, since other Servants hadn't been created yet. Second, the stats in Fate can be somewhat arbitrary at times, and fame isn't a direct correlation to power. Thirdly, no, because in the newest media he's in, his stats are exactly the same. It's been retconned, let it go.
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>>149470939
They're pretty much the exact same shit.
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>>149471004
Fuck off
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I want to FUCK Arthur-chan
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>>149470859
To be fair the fastest line was rather vague, as I'm pretty sure it was talking about the Servants in the Fifth War as they even brought that comparison about Medusa and him, with him having more burst speed but she being able to run really fast for a longer period of time. I find the among the three most skilled lancers line far more significant.
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>>149467487
You can be assblasted, but when talking about the setting, you can't discount characters or parts of the setting.
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>>149470664
Yeah. Nasu and whoever is put in charge of character design will need to outdo themselves if they want to include Cagliostro. What Granblue did, in a way, put Nasu between a rock and a hard place in this particular point, because people will definately make more direct comparisons between FGO and GBF than ever after that.
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>tfw no Dantes
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>>149470929
>That's how people go about things.

It's a rather poor way, I mean I know I'm not going to stop power level debates happening in the least scientific way known to man. But I can at least put out that I find it silly.

>>149471058
>newest media he's in, his stats are exactly the same. It's been retconned, let it go.

The newest media is fanservice that's not really made to be a fully cohesive story where these things really need to be looked at. In a remake of the story where he had a reasonable roll in it I think it's fair to consider that it could be redone.

Maybe it won't and Nasu will remain a pop writer who doesn't consider the point to things they do, but I don't know for certain and I like to think the evidence suggests Nasu thinks about things a lot more in depth than that (which is why the massive powercreep that started confuses me so much)
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>>149471198
Why does GB even have real world figures in the first place?
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>>149471305
One day anon
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>>149471307
>The newest media is fanservice that's not really made to be a fully cohesive story where these things really need to be looked at.
Newest media are cohesive stories on their own too like it or not. FSN isn't either a narrative masterpiece in the first place.
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>>149465828
>>149465613

You guys are retarded

Artoria >>> Artoria Alter >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>^9 all other lancers
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>>149470754
It's mandatory to have both desu senpai
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>>149471034
Ur just mad cuz you can't self-insert to a literal perfection.

>>149471048
Both are almost the same shit but he's the ORIGINAL so I'd stick with him.
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>>149471305

>tfw no Dantes Bond CE
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Reminder that 3bp is superior, just kill benkek with 3 zerkers and then let the oni wreck you.
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>>149470939
I wonder if this faggot will show up in Camelot.
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>>149471307
I don't think you get the fact that powerlevel debates are going to happen regardless, and that doing it that way is pretty much the only way they can be done, since scientific measurements aren't usually given. You can find it silly all you like, but complaining about it isn't going to change anything, especially since you were the one that started it.

And like it or not, Nasu considers Fate/Grand Order to be a genuine story that he's putting work and effort in, one that actually means something in the whole Fate universe. Just because it's a mobage doesn't change that it's a legitimate entry in the Nasuverse. Cu's stats have remained constant whenever he's appeared as Lancer Cu from FSN, he's not going to get a rework just because he's been powercreeped since the original came out. Nasu does think things in more depth than just "hurr durr imma do this" but that's why Cu isn't going to be someone ridiculously strong. He's just not as good as some of the other heroes that exist in the franchise now, either in his legend or in Fate.
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>>149470342
I think Jabberwocky doesn't appear in Alice in Wonderland actually.
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>>149469582
I started two months ago. Everybody had finished the story before me and I couldn't care less. It will be the same.
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I don't see why you guys insist on arguing about this. Definitive statements in Fate are pretty much worthless. More often than not they're just hyperbole and embellishments of the prose. I mean, there are lines about how Archer's "impossible" shots should be "impossible" to dodge or parry, and then right afterwards Saber does it anyway. Getting hung up on this stuff is just pointless.
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>>149471547
She predates him tho,he was only created after F/SN became popular
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>>149470437
Why the hell would they even add another alchemist? Paracelsus is supposed to be the strongest and he's super bland and boring even with the best equipment amongst them.
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>>149470664
>This is a 600 year old girl (male)
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>>149471426
See: where these things need to be looked at.

in EXTRA the stats could be arbitrary easily enough and it's not a big deal, same with F/GO.

Especially as they probably made him 3 star so that people could get some familiar servants they liked already with a reasonable chance. And in both cases he isn't exactly a heavily featured character.
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>>149470342
He appears in Through the Looking Glass, you nigger.
I bet you never read them.
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>>149471547
Yeah sure, he is the OG and it's possible that they'll reveal his Rho and Avalon to be equal
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I am an Atalanta-sexual.
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>>149471689
>Handholding
This is a Christian board anon, at least censor that shit.
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>>149468209
That's from Eiyuu Senki, not from Fate Grand Order.
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>>149471683
Depends on the version

Definitely not the Disney version
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>>149471680
This. Cu was amazing at the time and was easily one of the most impressive servants in Stay Night, but things have changed and new characters have been added. He's still really strong, but stronger people have been added to every class. It's not just Karna, plenty of other servants have pushed him lower.
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>>149471307
>which is why the massive powercreep that started confuses me so much
Powercreep is just unavoidable in a story about legendary heroes period. Nasu probably didn't even knew about many of those and changed or reworked it's own opinion with the time, but once you expand an universe things like that are bound to happen because even the myths themselves suffered from that all the time. A narrative that gets reworked on during a long period of time is bound to get that kind of thing, the human nature is like that both on a individual and collective level.

>>149471752
In Extra and GO stats are the same as in FSN and there is nothing that points otherwise. And star ratings are just a gameplay thing unrelated to the lore.
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>>149471680
If there were to be a remake for fate now, lancer would not be a credible threat, as he isn't a main character in the stories it doesn't matter, in F/GO he's just a stat block that you beat things over the head with, in extra he was an optional boss. This is what I mean more than anything.
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>>149471827
I would rape her so hard
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>>149471701
That's called flowery text

Fate as a story can best be described as different variations of "That's impossible, literally super impossible, but they did it anyway". Narrator isn't reliable in terms of being absolute fact, he's more there to play up the story for the moment to make it seem bigger.
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>>149471853
what if i'm Atheist
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Who is best girl and why is it Bazett?
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>>149471741
Hope we get SF servants before this game dies.
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>>149470474
Genderbent doc when?
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>>149471717
Arthur came along first, his character designs were already made before seibah was created and Nasu originally intended to use him for the first fate but he change his gender to fit the game market.
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>>149471357
They make share the names but they don't have the same history. If memory serves, their Jeanne has absolutely nothing to do with the historical counterpart.
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>>149467142
Hindu myth to me makes it seems like the world seem fragile like glas. Instead of being impressive you just realise that nobody in it would compare to real heroes if you took them out of their autistic playground.
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>>149471305
>tfw Dantes after being spooked by Drake
Feels so sex.

>>149471550
Soon.
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>>149471827
i bet you bake her apple pies too you monster
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>>149472212
That's a totally biased interpretation.
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>>149472061
Doesn't stop the board from being Christian, so you still have to censor it for the majority of us here. Otherwise you'll taint the board with your sinful lusts of hand on hand.
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>>149472260
>>149471827
is it ok to waifu atalanta?
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>>149471869
The book called Alice in Wonderland should be the same one as always.
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>>149471680
>Nasu does think things in more depth than just "hurr durr imma do this"
No he doesn't.
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>>149472212
You can think that, but it's pretty wrong. It's all just higher level. Hindus were the original powerlevel posters. You can decry it as much as you want, but the feats are there and they are impressive to say the least.
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>>149472376
Yes, don't let any of the cuck posters get to you, she actually returns your affection unlike Achilles
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>>149472212
Mixing mythologies is just stupid in the first place because the obvious contradictions it will sprang from doing it.
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>>149472426
Who's the Hindu Melvin?
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>>149471752
In Extra he was a big deal along with Lu Bu, both were said to be the biggest treats in the war along with Gawain.
And in GO they made him the final boss of America.
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>>149472496
Krishna
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Who is best girl?
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>>149472376
The cuckshitter would tell you something about Achilles, but valentine's day preemptively cucked that imbecile out of his delusions.
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>>149472534
But it doesn't matter if they update his states properly in either is what I'm saying, Narratively that is. They can ad hoc it and it works fine.

But when there are more central thematic reasons then it needs to be addressed. Or, well I'd be very disappointed I suppose.

To me Cu being one of, the very best, nearly unrivalled is a major element to EMIYA's character and the themes of the story. When you take that away you damage the story.
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>>149472706
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>>149472706
You
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>>149472292
>>149472426
You can't take currynigger shit seriously.
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>>149472830
See >>149472830
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>>149472706
My queen, my tyrant.
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>>149472706
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>>149472549
Easily. He favors Arjuna and won't let him lose.

>>149472830
I grew up on that shit. Mythology is the reason I got into Fate and Hindu is my favorite.
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>>149472706
Best "Girl"
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>>149471683
>>149471754
>Through the Looking Glass, you nigger.
You're right. Fuck me, the both works were in the same book when I read them.
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>>149472061
Doesn't change anything, just like you can't go into a Christian state or a church and do stuff that's forbidden there just because you consider yourself an atheist.
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>>149472706
Ibaraki is best girl
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>>149472706
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>>149472706
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>>149472706
In my heart at least.
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>>149472726
>To me Cu being one of, the very best, nearly unrivalled is a major element to EMIYA's character and the themes of the story.
That was never given any kind of semblance of relevance in the VN so that's just you projecting that point into Emiya because you like him. It's understable but it's just subjective. It doesn't damage anything because it was never important or even set in stone in the first place. It's just cherrypicking.
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>>149472465
You can if you create a system for it and do it logically. Too bad that Nasu is a retarded hack.
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>>149472706
Umu
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>>149472706
Can't wait for materials to see her 4 remaining NP's
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>>149473004
isn't that what alot of people do?
i get that it's a big no no but it still happens.
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>>149469907
>Jabberwocky

>'Twas brillig, and the slithy toves
>Did gyre and gimble in the wabe;
>All mimsy were the borogoves,
>And the mome raths outgrabe.

>"Beware the Jabberwock, my son!
>The jaws that bite, the claws that catch!
>Beware the Jubjub bird, and shun
>The frumious Bandersnatch!"

>He took his vorpal sword in hand:
>Long time the manxome foe he sought—
>So rested he by the Tumtum tree,
>And stood awhile in thought.

>And as in uffish thought he stood,
>The Jabberwock, with eyes of flame,
>Came whiffling through the tulgey wood,
>And burbled as it came!

>One, two! One, two! and through and through
>The vorpal blade went snicker-snack!
>He left it dead, and with its head
>He went galumphing back.

>"And hast thou slain the Jabberwock?
>Come to my arms, my beamish boy!
>O frabjous day! Callooh! Callay!"
>He chortled in his joy.

>'Twas brillig, and the slithy toves
>Did gyre and gimble in the wabe;
>All mimsy were the borogoves,
>And the mome raths outgrabe.
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>consistently do 3BP with Okita, Shiki, Waver
>oni and benkei go full autism and only attack waver for the next 3 turns until he's dead

What the fuck DW?
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>>149472708
Just wait untill he gets released.
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>>149473153
In Fate I would say it's more or less decently done because they explain gods as being divine spirits and call it a day. They even nerfed indian stuff to fit.

I was talking to take myths as they are and taking them for granted and then making powerlevel comparisions between them. Now that's retarded.
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>>149473303
>he gets released
>Atalanta gets a new line along the lines of "keep that man away from me"

I want to see it happen.
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>>149473209
If we're talking about a proper state, you may face criminal charges for what you did just because you thought "lol doesn't concern me since I'm not Christian".

Being a dick in normal churches wherever you are is looked down on but nothing that could get you into trouble.
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>>149469907
It's Nursery Rhyme's beast, Lancelot's nightmare.
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>>149473283
>He doesn't save scum to before the attack happened and possibly save Waver
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>>149471918
>lancer would not be a credible threat
Yes, he would. He would be just as credible because he was a credible threat in that specific war. Just because other Servants outclass him doesn't mean he's no longer a threat. If all the Servants in the remake stay the same, he'd be just as credible.

And Cu was only optional in the sense that you could choose between two routes, if you picked Rani you still had to fight him. What you seem to be saying is that you're upset that he's not a main character and that Nasu doesn't pay him as much attention as you feel he should.
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Who is best boy?
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>>149473149
Here is my justification. it is an important thing for Emiya to be worthy of being a great hero, but to hate the path he took to get there and the things he is forced to do, it plays heavily into his self-loathing. His lack of pride really being a key demonstrator there for me.

And changing so he's on par with a "good" servant and someone who is nerfed because magical seals just takes away from that. It cheapens the story for literally no benefit. Not just EMIYA's story but Shirou's story as well.

And if we go back and dissect all the stuff following fate, I feel like there is nothing there. What are the key themes of Apocrapha? why is it important that the characters are super stronk narratively, how does it enforce the themes of the story?
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>>149473462
You
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>>149473392
>>149472708
>>149472458
>implying Achilles' interlude won't be Guda helping him woo Atalanta
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>>149473462
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>>149473462
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>>149473462
Fionn
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>>149471547
And Arthur is a MALE.

Man>>>>>>Woman
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>>149473462
Best TM boy will always be EMIYA.
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>>149472212
You can think that, but it's wrong. Just because the people in it were incredibly powerful thanks to the ancient Hindus being the first powerlevel shitposters doesn't mean that it's just the world that's weak and the people are actually normal or weak in some stupid baseline mythology that you seem to be suggesting. People don't look at Superman's feats and decide that he's actually not that good, it's the world that's weaker, and he'd be shit compared to "real" heroes.
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>>149472706
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>>149473462
Richard, when it comes to looks and charm.
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>>149473579
Bryn go back to sleep or back in the gacha.
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>>149473529
>Achilles fails to woo her entirely, and Atlanta recognizes you as the mastermind behind his efforts so she decides to court you instead, to compound Achilles's failure
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>>149473462
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>>149473608
>>149473608
>>149473608
>>149473608
>>149473608
This. Men are definitely superior when it comes to raw strength!

Artoria btfo!
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>>149473660
Whatever. Hindu myth is exactly the same as children screaming at each other at a daycare. I won't even acknowledge it as a real religion.
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>>149473529
I think he'll be more interested in Herakles.
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>>149472458
whatever you say waifucuck
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>>149473857
I'd feel bad for him but he fucked up hector so he gets no sympathy from me
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>>149473462
Kirei
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>>149472458
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>>149473954
You're free to stick your fingers in your ears and scream because you don't like something, doesn't stop that thing from being any less real.
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>>149473990
Next you're going to say "Gudao/Gudako isn't a self insert faggot"
Or "Wait til achilles shows up and he'll steal your girl"
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>>149473916
Agree
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>>149473462
My King.
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>>149473916
Good taste
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>>149474087
Reality is a perception tho.
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>>149474110
Gudao isn't a self-insert, fa-- N-NANI?!
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>>149474110
Everyone is a waifu until Nasu decides they aren't, and 9/10 times he decides they aren't. Usually after people have already spent money on them.
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>>149474220
Hinduism is a real religion and it's in fact the oldest still living religion. Denying that is just ignoring reality.
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>>149473916
best boy
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>>149473281
Why do I feel like an illiterate while reading this?
I can barely understand a thing.
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>>149473954
You might want to leave. We're gonna get more Hindu in the future.
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>>149474381
A lot of the words are made up.
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>>149474049
what do you mean by this?
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>>149473954
You say that like any of them care for your approval
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>>149474087
I'm not the one caring about baby pretend-mythology and being a childish retard. Even talking about it is just a fucking waste of time.
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>>149473928
>>149473608
Get your sexist ass outta here, I bet you like Donald Trump.
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>>149474384
>Sita and Parvati/Sakura
Am i missing someone?
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>>149474584
get out Cuck
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>>149473916
Seconded

Tesla best man tho
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>>149473462
My husband!
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>>149474579
Seems to me like you care about it enough to complain about it being in a franchise about mythology and legends on an imageboard.
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>>149474178
Who is the girl?
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>>149473462
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>>149474579
All mythology is pretend. Just because one is more fantastic than others doesn't make it invalid.

>>149474616
All that's confirmed, but we very well may get more.
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>>149474584
>I bet you like Donald Trump.
I do, he is going to make America great again
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>>149474110
hakuno isn't a self insert
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>>149473928
This is why Astolfo is the best! The raw strength of a man with the beauty of a woman. He is truly the best servant!
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>>149474739
fuck off Kogil
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>>149474310
>Hinduism is a real religion
No it isn't. It's not even a bad religion, it's just a bunch of nothing.
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>>149474616
We're also possibly getting an India order in FGO2.
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Reminder:

I am the bone of my missile
Steel my body and jet fuel my blood
I have created over a thousand JETS
Have fired over a thousand missiles
yet jet fuel will never melt steel beams
So as I pray, UNLIMITED JET WORKS.
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>>149474717
Hakuno.
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>>149474717
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>>149472706
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>>149474649
>>149474739
Back to
>>>/pol/
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>>149474717
>Hakunon
The cutest TM girl
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>>149474381
Don't worry, a little girl also gets confused by it until an adult explains it to her.

But really, it is made to be not easily understandable or outright impossible to understand because it is played like a joke in the book.
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>>149474310
I reject your reality!
No religion that see's cows as holy can be consider acceptable in my eyes.
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>>149474790
something something irrelevant to the discussion.
Just let people have a fictional character they like.
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>>149474904
Not even close.
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>>149474875
>le /pol/
>>>/r/grandorder/
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>>149474852
>jet fuel will never melt steel beams
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>>149474739
>Trump
>not Armstrong
Fuck off
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I wish someone updated the translation pastebin with the latest stuff of the summary anon. It stopped after the 1st Oni event and it's a pain in the ass to search manually all past threads for his stuff
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>>149473498
Emiya is Batman, he was never about powerlevels but about being a swiss army knife that can deal with a lot of stuff that is beyond him due to him being smart or being a good counter to it. That's it, he was never about being worthy of being a great hero because he is not even a hero like the other heroic spirits are, he is more a messiah like Artoria. Him being powerful or not is a non-factor in Emiya, and more in a story where powerlevels are never the main draw during a fight as always happens in the Fate series as a whole. Cu is still a solid A rank Heroic Spirit with all things intended and he having chances even against Herc is still a thing, he doesn't need to be the very best there was for that to work. Also, a hero is not someone who worthy because of his powerlevel in the first place.

>And if we go back and dissect all the stuff following fate, I feel like there is nothing there. What are the key themes of Apocrapha?
The key themes of Apocrypha are the same as in Fate actually, you would know if you actually read it. Also with an added theme about free will vs. forcing salvation into others and the innate goodness and the innate evil of humanity. I would argue that Amakusa is a really interesting and conflicted villain that not only is a counterpart to Kiritsugu and Shirou but also Avenger, bringing a point that doesn't even have a clear answer.

>why is it important that the characters are super stronk narratively, how does it enforce the themes of the story?
You can say that about FSN too if you weren't being biased. Both Gilgamesh and Herc are strong because no other reason that they are strong, at least as far as FSN is concerned (hell, CCC justifies Gil far better than the original VN ever did). Karna is strong because he is supposed to be the Hero of Generosity that can discern and accept everyone equally, and with that and being so strong he was never accepted in his whole life and died without showing his true worth.
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>>149474816
Okay, but it's still real. Your opinion doesn't change reality.
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>>149474949
whatever makes your existence bearable waifucuck
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>>149473462
Literally the best.
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>>149474384
If I would leave because of Fate adding something completely retarded as a servant I would have dropped the VN when we got female king Arthur.
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>>149474904
Do not lewd the Hakuno.
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>>149474870
One day, hopefully he'll do something beyond paizuri. For now, I'll just wait and hope.
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>>149475030
>him being smart
It's about him knowing true names of all 5th HGW Servants.
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>>149474949
>waifu is just a character you like
sasuga
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>>149474584
>I bet you like Donald Trump
Is this supposed to be an insult? Get the fuck out berniecuck.
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>>149475141
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>>149474984
Sexism is not allowed in /vg/. Read the rules and lurk more.
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>>149475141
But she is the lewdest
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>>149475232
>voting for someone who refuses to fuck his daughter because moralfag
>>>/out/
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>>149475049
"OH NO THIS GUY IS HAVING FUN IN A WAY I DON'T THINK IS RIGHT"
Off yourself and your world view, the only thing more pathetic about being in love with something fictional is caring that someone is in love with something fictional
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>>149475141
She's meant to be sexualized.
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>>149475030
>The key themes of Apocrypha are the same as in Fate actually,

fate as in the route I assume you mean, because I feel that the themes that UBW presents are nothing at all like what you said there.

And of course I haven't read apocrapha I don't read Japanese (very well)

and I've already explained my idea about why being strong is important thematically, though you haven't provided a strong enough one for Karna, I'd struggle to call it anything beyond a justification for putting a powercreep character in the narrative because those are popular.

We clearly have conflicting interpretations.
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>>149475030
>Emiya is Batman
So Emiya's a shitty meme as well? Good to know.
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>>149475141
Official art already lewds them

There was a chapter in CCC where they had to strip while their servant and Rani were watching. Gropes Passionlip twice, and touches Liz's tail underside. Hakuno is very lewd.
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>>149474949
>Just let people have a fictional character they like
This is the future you chose /fgog/
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>>149475381
>changing like to love
nice damage control memer
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>>149475430
I'm rushing this because I have to leave my computer and sorry for the dismissive language, it wasn't intentional, just rushed.
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>all this Hakunon love
>no love for Kishinami at all
Sad!
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>>149475465
>no nips
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>>149475478
>>149475493
Changing like to love and vice versa doesn't change that much.

I guess it sounds creepier and more pathetic but if you care about some random stranger online being pathetic you really need to find a new hobby.
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>>149474584
>facts is sexist
Not sure if this is a b8 or not because I encountered hardcore liberals who actually think like this.
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>>149474584
>I bet you like Donald Trump.
>Supposed to be an insult
Thanks for making known your eternal inferiority, subhuman. You may now go and choke on the nigger cock you love so much, and die while you're at it.
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>>149475631
I like Kishinami's hairstyle.

I also enjoy male characters that passively get dragged towards the plot but talks shit about everyone under his breath.
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>>149473778
I'm just looking at this. But that looks like both Excalibur and Avalon but red.
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>>149473916
why is he so fucking fast.
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>Tfw hyped as fuck for Camelot
>But only servant I want from first gacha is Ozy and risk rolling garbage while seeking him.
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>>149475859
Those lowly shiteaters like to call the turth "hate facts". If you show them evidence that women were always inferior, are always inferior and will always be inferior, they throw a bitch fit.
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>>149475698
I really wonder why you guys even come here honestly.
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>>149475430
Not the same person, but yes, Fate the route. Just because something doesn't share the same themes as UBW doesn't make it bad, by the way.

And Karna's strong partially because it's obvious that someone as old and strong in his legend would have to be strong as a Servant, and partially because the Red team is meant to be seen as this unsurmountable obstacle, and Karna provides most of that. In the first two volumes, Siegfried and Vlad are hyped up as two incredibly strong Servants, and Karna fights Siegfried to a draw that's still in his favor, thrashes a more powerful version of Siegfried at the end, and manages to push Vlad to the point that he absolutely would have lost if their fight hadn't been interrupted.

Essentially, he fills the same role in story as Hercules or Gilgamesh, a fantastically powerful Servant that takes a long time to defeat, and arguably provides the toughest fight in the story for the main character.
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>>149475202
He used to do things other than paizuri all the time. He settled down into just being the best at paizuri after he decided upon his niche. Its better this way. Bruce Lee says "I do not fear the man who has practiced 10,000 kicks, I fear the man who has practicied one kick 10,000 times". Indeed rather than doing sex by a checklist as you do two panels of this and two panels of that, he just decided to improve one fetish to its max.

http://exhentai.org/g/12356/adb1051585/
http://exhentai.org/g/12359/1d4bfc44d5/
http://exhentai.org/g/6036/87276bfd9a/

Its not hard to see just how much he's improved after switching over to just doing one niche.
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New bread

>>149476083
>>149476083
>>149476083
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>>149475631
>tfw no Hakuno of my own
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>>149475873
That's correct. Whatever vaguely sword-shaped object Richard picks up turns into Excalibur
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>>149476126
Paizuri alone is just shit though.
It's a somewhat okay foreplay but nothing more
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>>149476059

>want to roll on Camelot
>must save all quartz for the swimsuits
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>>149475430
>>149475545
I will answer you in the next thread properly.
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>>149475001
tlpaste anon said he's working on it.

Meanwhile you can find them quickly by using the archive.
https://boards.fireden.net/vg/search/username/Summary%20anon/filter/text/
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>>149476094
I don't look down on women but men and women are completely different. Who says otherwise is retarded.
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>>149472706
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>>149476101
i come here to shitpost and read up on leaks and stupid predictions.
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>>149475868
>liking someone who doesn't fuck his own daughter
Get out cuck. Nigger dick is too good for you.
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>>149476059
>Rolling for Ozzy after a year of waiting
>Chance at choco waifu
>Lancelot going into Da Vinci-chan's furnace
Feels good
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>>149476339
>Implying that setback will make Trump a bad president in any way, shape or form
Keep trying bitch.
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