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>>149307769

>Character Planner
https://www.mugenmonkey.com/

>Community & Fanart
http://pastebin.com/vVWz9pJm

>KING'S FIELD
http://pastebin.com/G8zw0sc3

>DEMON'S SOULS
http://pastebin.com/RjpF5s7a

>DARK SOULS
http://pastebin.com/eNY3su63

>DARK SOULS 2
http://pastebin.com/CAx8Yc8v

>BLOODBORNE
http://pastebin.com/WdLBWD8n

>DARK SOULS 3
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1u8Mak1goSv4g73g16XsWV4sJelDQUatWkP2kcO6GVAA/pub
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>ds3 is so dead we haven't had a pc fc in like 3 days
holy fuck
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Second for Dragonsis.
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>>149359140
>tfw no 11/10 level design
>magic-resistant sorcerers on ledges out of reach that must be taken down by archers
>sick ass gauntlet area where greatshield user must protect party from flame attack similar to storm king's fire blast AoE
>no boss fight that requires the use of Twisted Wall of Light in order to prevent massive magic damage from obliterating everyone

>>149359715
dude anon it'll be alright. DLC SOON
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Playing the shitfest that is DaS3 made me appreciate Dark Souls 2 even more. What are the chances of ever getting a new game by the B(est) team?
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FOR FUCKS SAKE
WHY'D MY TATTOO MOVE
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nth for soup
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pc fc gf when
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need a bf
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>>149359857
TOO HIGH SPEED FOR THIS SHIT
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Weapons we need access to that are in the game files or NPCS have but we can't get

>chain axe
>upsized battle axe that big snakes use
>golden winged weapons/armor
>golden variants of Greataxe/hollow soldier armor
>blue/gold lothric knight armor/weps
>throwing twin axes
>missionary's book as a catalyst (wtb Zana pages
>small hatchets that undead settlement workers use
>the one halberd axe that is on the ground before your first encounter with winged knight patrol
>feather spell used by mangrubs
>ghru facerape as a spell
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>>149359753
>DLC SOON
>at least 55 days until Tokyo Game Show where the announcement will be like made.
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>>149359707
You're probably right, gotta do something with all of that nothing. IMO the Profaned Capital was the most disappointing area in the game and it doesn't help that the NPC down there who drops a magic scroll doesn't drop it like 1/3 of the time.
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top kek
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>>149359939
pc fc bf or just bf?
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guise, i've sent Greirat 3rd time to pillage and went to the place in Grand Archives where his ashes should be but the are not there, NG+. what did happen? do i have to wait fixed amount of time?
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>>149360065
Holy fuck, where is this?
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>>149360095
PC FC BF
H I G H W A L L ?
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>>149360105
Gotta kill a boss fampai.
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>>149359715
If people only asked when they were going to play instead of just messing around this woudn't happen.
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>>149360216
I'm down for a couple of matches
>click until there are non left is literally worse than hitler
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>>149360037
I hope they put the second DLC entrance to the Cathedral of the Deep. As an aside,having DLC1 access point in the Propane capital isn't a bad idea because it means that the path would have something in it.
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>>149360227
but i have all of them killed, does summoning count?
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>>149360127
Stormwind, by the docks
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>>149360216
Nah, I don't want to be someone's pc bf, also I can't host there

I actually feel lonely, I want an actual gf
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>>149360065
>legion collectors edition
>supporting blizzard after they openly shat on the community after the petition

>>149360127
timeless isle also has red phantoms and encourages darkwraith-like pvp
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>>149359768
I genuinely wouldn't mind them making a new game of a new IP without tying it to a existing one like Souls, and not having the publisher pressure that comes with that.
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>>149360217
Hello Lucifer.

Quality content you've missed out on:

>>149357131
>>149359101

>>149360324
If everyone's dead, you're completely shit out of luck familia.
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>tfw no Undertale style Dark Souls where you can have the option to make everyone your friend
>tfw Champion Gundyr, NK and Twin Princes will never be your bros
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>>149360374
>If everyone's dead, you're completely shit out of luck familia.
f-fug. please halp
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>>149360296
I usually refresh captcha if it happens.

>talk about pc bf
>select all bananas

oh boy...
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>>149360353
We all do anon
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>>149360428
>Undertale
Fuck right off
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>>149360324
>does summoning count?

Maybe, it worked in DaS. I don't know about DaS3, but it's worth a try.
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Reminder that DaS2's combat is literally objectively better than 3's
DaS2 has
>biggest variety of weapons and useful weapon movesets, as opposed to das3 which reuses the shitty boring movesets from das1 for most weapons
>full weapon movesets in the left hand, but at least you can block with the parry dagger in 3 lol
>powerstancing, instead of a few designated pairs of dual wield weapons (enjoy having to play through 90% of the game just to be able to dual wield straight swords)
>gradually increasing rolls, rather than 3 tiers only one of which is useful
>i-frames on backsteps adds another way to avoid hits and switch up your game up, riskier than rolling but also comes with a bigger reward since you recover faster and can do a running attack right away
>shield slap is more useful than das3's slow kick, which isn't a guaranteed guard break like in das2 but is also not as fast as the kick in das1
>roll cancels, attack cancels, delayed and sped up attacks, and sped up parries added another layer of depth to the combat for higher skill players, are the one of the reasons pretty much everything is viable in das2, and are all missing in das3
>magic is actually viable, even as your main weapon, not just due to the high damage but also the variety of spells and spell cancels
>poise system is a perfect combination of poise and hyper armor, wherehaving some poise might just let you shrug off a single hit from a rapier, but gets increased when swinging a big weapon to the point where you can poise through a katana, as opposed to das3's dumbed down hyper armor system with no poise where R1 spam is rampant and you have hope your opponent is dumb enough to run right into your swing, and good luck doing that when you can attack cancel
>2 handed parrying and weapons with unique abilities which are actually useful like the fume ultrasword, blue flame, puzzling sword, bone fist, alonne sword, santier's spear and throne watcher sword, unlike the shitty weapon arts in das3
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>>149360485
>hating a game because of its fanbase and not its own merits
>>/v/
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>>149360374
That's not Lucy, that's le sooper epic ironic shitposter who thinks his shitposting counteracts the real deal.

>>149360319
If the second DLC is in the CotD (which I think is a good idea BTW, it's not too far into the game) then I don't think it makes much sense for the first to be later. IIRC you have to beat the CotD to get to the PC.
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>>149360509
What did it work for in DaS?
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Reminder that if your character wasn't so incapable and Dark Souls 2 wasn't so video-gamey, you could literally skip the headaches that are: The Gutter, Black Gulch, Earthen Peak, Harvest Valley
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>>149360065
You can get him as a garrison follower and if you do /praise at him (I think that was the emote), he'd give you a bonfire toy and an achievement.
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>>149360575
>>hating a game because of its fanbase and not its own merits
>Implying things I didn't imply
>>>/out/
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>>149360531
I honestly like DaS1's rolls the best but DS3 is okay too.
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>>149360591

Advancing quest lines by killing bosses as a phantom. Some quests didn't trigger properly unless you killed a boss, I think Solaire's was one of those.
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>>149360583
I may be wrong, but basing this on 2 which is out only example, you could find the DLCs outside release order, couldn't you?
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Hey guys, is the Dragonslayer's Axe any good in Dark Souls 2?

Absolutely adore the simple aesthetic of it.
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>>149360610
>place a box on the floor
>jump to the ladder
>skip dancer
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>>149360610
>Dark Souls 1
>can't crawl through the HUGE gaps in the Sen's Fortress portcullis

>Dark Souls 2
>can't climb over a pile of rubble

>Dark Souls 3
>can't ask Emma to get out of her chair for a second so you can stand on it and grab the ladder

Were Demon's Souls and Bloodborne the only ones without arbitrary progress gates?
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>>149360701
Is that so? Pretty sure Solaire did the Burg > Anor Londo > Burg > Izalith just by exhauting his dialogue in those areas.
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>>149360787
Yes.
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>>149360823

Sometimes he wouldn't appear at Izalith, or his summon sign was missing at the Kiln.
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>>149360531
I sure love my rolls and attacks taking up a third of my stamina bar
poise is hot garbage in DaSII as well
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>>149360817
All of them had very fragile doors you couldn't destroy.
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>>149360787
Make it Raw and cast Lightning Blade on it and it becomes a decent weapon for a Faith-heavy build.
The catch is that Faith-heavy builds are kinda bad, but you can probably make it work.
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>>149360817
Demon's has arbitrary progress gates for the World tendency event things.
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>>149360817
>can't ask Emma to get out of her chair for a second so you can stand on it and grab the ladder
you can kill her, it works
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>>149360817
>can't crawl through the HUGE gaps in the Sen's Fortress portcullis
the gaps are too small if I recall correctly, and the bottom bits are sealed off
Demon's did do it best though, I haven't played bloodborne
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>>149360610
haha le hate on dark souls 3 maymay xD
le dark souls 3 so good even thought its literally the shittiest thing they have ever released and its dying each day haha
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>>149360610
>Harvest Valley is a headache
>literally need to kill 2 enemies to get through it
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>>149361046
Did you have a meme overload? Do you need a doctor?
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>>149361046
>DaS2's only defense is that at least it's not 3
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>>149360610
You can skip all of them anyway.
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>>149361165
ds2 has infinitely more going for it than shit souls 3
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>>149361046
Anon did you mean DaS2?

It's funny that you should say that because even though Dark Souls 2 is the last souls game in the series I've played I find it to be the best PvE and co-op experience out of all of them.

I hate the PvP in all of the slower games though. Actually requires skill and I hate that.
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>>149361165
It's just easier to sum up that way, considering all the shit 3 got wrong.
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>>149361243
I know, but if you compare DaS2 to the good games of the series you're BTFO and you're just scared to do so.
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>>149360706
Sort of, yes, although IMO the best system was simply giving people the ability to teleport to the DLC right away like DS2 did. It wasn't until later that they decided that you ought to find items and altars in-game, and even then it wasn't all too bad since you could go after whatever item you wanted in whatever order you wanted. I used to twink in SotFS by getting the agape ring ASAP and heading to Brume Tower to pick up all the +7 weapons that were laying around.

However, in DS3 you're pretty much limited in what you do until you reach the swamp and then you have your choice between the catacombs and the CotD and you have to do one before you can leave the other. IMO the best way to implement the DLC would be to add one somewhere in the wall of Lothric and then add another later, although preferably before the Dancer.
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>>149361304
>good games of the series
So the pre-Lordvessel parts of DaS1, and Bloodborne minus the Chalice Dungeons?
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>tfw no dlc
>not even an announcement
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>i think shit souls 3 is good
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>Faithfuls that lose a 2v1 and then crystal out before they die
Those are the same people that hit little girls
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>>149361449
anon.....
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>>149360610
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>>149361370
One of the DLC access points is definitely going to be the empty square room in Profaned Capital.
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>>149360930
>I sure hate stamina management, proper spacing and using a weapon's moveset to the fullest, where the R1 spam and ez backstabs at
DaS2 poise is great by the way, sounds like you haven't played the game since release
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God, why did it take the devs to realize 1k arrows was really excessive? I've adjusted to having way too much ammo and when I use bows in DaS3 I'm always running dry.

I just don't understand why they waited so long to make such a drastic change. They should at least let us stockpile 10k arrows so we don't have to keep continuously buying more.

>>149361440
Chalice Dungeons are probably the best thing about Bloodborne since it's objectively the shortest main story of all the games.

DaS3 doesn't count since the DLCs together are slated to add 15 hours of content each.
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>>149361440
>DeS isn't good
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>>149361494
>hosts that sprint all the way back to the duel arena to summon more fags once you kill their friend
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>>149361681
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zo5l-1r8OMo
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>>149361681
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>>149361764
this. running around there trying to summon more cunts putting you in the eternal fight
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>>149361661
>Chalice Dungeons are probably the best thing about Bloodborne
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>>149362020
>i hate hack and slash diablo 3 with guns

dumb opinion
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>>149361764
Adding also
>Hosts who camp and gank at Water Reserve
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>>149362020
as someone who hasn't played BB, are chalice dungeons comparable to diablo 3's greater rifts ?
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>>149361694
Nostalgia and being the first of its kind doesn't make a game good. It was good back in the day but it hasn't aged well at all.
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>>149360575
Not him but I refunded that crap after 40 minutes of gameplay.
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>>149361764
>MFW sizzurp spirit
>MFW this is exactly what I want
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>>149361661
>Chalice Dungeons are probably the best thing about Bloodborne
it's GOT to be one guy who keeps saying chalice shit was good
i refuse to believe more than one person could have such bad taste.

irredeemable garbage. from the OHKO bosses to the gank rooms to the resued dungeons to the grinding for mats.
all trash.
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>>149362136
>first of its kind
>back in the day
>aged well
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>>149362208
>OHKO bosses

maybe if you were D5 on your BL60 twink or something you dumb horse-fornicator.
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>first time in Boreal Valley

whelp, sure am getting my shit pushed in
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>>149362127
It's basically the same dozen or so rooms recycled at random, and half the bosses are basic enemies with a name and a boss healthbar.
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>>149362127
>>149362085
>liking Diablo 3
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>>149362326
i'm talking defiled, you cock sucker
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>>149361370
What if they allowed for access to the Pronaned capital from below through the DLC1 accessed from the Cathedral of the Deep?

CotD would also be a good place to put DS3 edition of Chalice Dungeons in.
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>>149362343
Let me co-op with you please anon-kun.

Please be on PC.
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>>149362343
The key to getting gud at DaS3 PvP is to realize the game is trying real hard to be Bloodborne. Disregard shields and mash R1 before the enemy gets to swing, you'll stunlock the Pontiff Knights to death just by dropping the usual Souls-style defensive playstyle.
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What kind of Greatsword are those invisible dudes in Irithyl using?
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Which level should I be for low-level co-op? 20?

As for weapons, I'm guessing Raw ASS?
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Is a poison ricard's rapier as good as it seems to poison shit with the R2?
Dark souls 2 btw
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>>149362486
*PvE
Christ, how'd I fuck that up.
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>>149362208
Not him but they're not the worst thing in the world. Its just a good concept executed poorly. Definitely not near the best thing about BB though. The grind is a bit of a bitch until you finish Ailing Loran.
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>>149362381
diablo 3 was shit at launch, its better than d2 now tho

non-prime d2, of course. no game has even come close to d2 in it's prime.
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>>149362543
It will poison everything without immunity in one go, but it's better to use normal ricard's rapier and buff it with poison item, since it will poison everything in one r2 r2 anyway, but will also do good damage.
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>>149362507
Claymore.
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REMINDER THAT YOUR OPINIONS MATTER

http://www.strawpoll.me/10789924/r
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What is the most cancerous fucking build in DS3?
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>>149361874
Thanks doc
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>>149361651
DaSII poise is hot garbage. If drakeblood's, an full plate suit of armour, can properly deflect small blows, then it might as well not be in the game.
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>>149362749
Hollow Oniniri Ubadachi l2 spam, with hollow Carthus and hollow wash pole as backup

All with rouge
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>>149362656
>but will also do good damage
I already have something to do good damage, i just hate using consumables in a game where enemies respawn at every death.
Last time i checked ricard's didn't do fantastic damage.
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>>149361560
That "Rubbish" you pick up right beside that room was apparently the original location of Stormruler, and they moved it to the bossroom because too many testers missed the fact that there was more to the Profaned Capital and just got stuck against Yhorm. They moved Stormruler to the boss room and then just hastily replaced the item pickup there with a placeholder.

I wouldn't be surprised if they do something about that in the eventual DLC, like turn it into a DLC-related item pickup (key or something), but I seriously doubt they're going to significantly repurpose that area for the DLC. The Profaned Capital is ripe for expansion just because of how rushed and mediocre it was, but I don't think there's actually much to expand on in a DLC to make it worth connecting directly.
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>>149362908
It has 100% dex scaling.
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>>149362876
*can't
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>>149362486
>souls-style defensive play
wat
Going shieldless and stunlocking/BSchaining everything to death has always been the objectively optimal strategy in souls games.
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>>149362343
>yfw Irithyll dogs that stunlock rape you to death
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>>149362136
DeS has best weapon variety, best world design (you can obtain almost any item before half the game), best armour, best atmosphere, best everything really.
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>>149362910
you could maybe attempt to link the Profaned Capital to Londor, because both are so heavily involved with Abyss magic
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>>149362749
Gotthards
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>>149361560
It wouldn't surprise me, that area was obviously rushed.

>>149362440
It would be a pretty neat feature if the DLC let you skirt the linearity of the main game. It'd be kind of a shitty move by FROM, but after half a decade of putting up with their sloppiness (and Bamco's) it's what I expect.

I bought the fancy edition with DLC included so I'm on the hook anyway.
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>>149362445
PS4 ;_;


If anyone else wants to give me a hand I'm SL51, and can wait for a summon at the start off the bridge, I haven't killed that thing on the bridge yet though just so you're aware.
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>>149362984
What if enemy can't be stunlocked or backstabed?
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>>149362749

Hard to choose

>bloodring gotthards
>washing pole wdr1
>ccs
>instableed builds
>estoc/straight sword turtles
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>>149362749
greatshield estoc
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>>149362608
Would you recommend D3? Never played any Diablo game, is it good?
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>>149362972
Rapiers have a shit moveset, i prefer to cave shit in with the Greatsword or poke with a spear.
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>>149363121
>Abyss magic
Literally the only thing relating the Profaned Capital to the abyss is the Profaned Coal (which you find in Irithyll Dungeon). There's no abyss magic tied to that area or associated with its lore.

And, for that matter, there's nothing tying abyss magic to Londor, either. All of the Londor miracles are non-abyss hexes. Dark Blade is just a custom variant of magic weapon modified by Felkin, Dead Again is corpse-manipulating necromancy and Vow of Silence is a Velka miracle.
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>>149363201
You assume the giant circumcision position or roll and poke it a million times until death occurs.
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>>149363358
if you like mindless grinding then yes
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>>149363248
I think washing pole is by far the most cancerous of them all, with CCS on the second place. Everything else is counterable.
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>>149363075
Oh lord, haven't even been that far yet. Just been trying to help someone else to practice but I haven't been doing too well, is there a recommended level for this area?
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>>149363491
What about glaives and halberds?
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>>149363384
The profaned capital has the manus hands, and it mentions Alsanna in the eleonora description.
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>>149363384
>literally the only thing relating the Profaned Capital to the Abyss is the Profaned Coal
yes, Abyss-infected fire destroyed the Capital, and it's creators were therefore Abyss sorcerers/pyromancers of some sort

>there is nothing tying the land of Kaathe-worshiping Hollows to the Abyss
ok
just by the way, any spell that calls upon Humanity, and thus deals Dark damage, is channeling the Abyss (aka wild/unleashed humanity)
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>>149363504
You can't go any other way either so enjoy.
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>>149363504
50+ is good.

Use bleed on the dogs; they take 400% extra damage from it. Only roll when you see their snarling/telegraphing. If they rear their hind legs up, they're doing a lightning attack and will let you combo them for several thousand damage if using the bleed resin + bleed weapon.
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>>149363364
>DaS2 rapiers
>Shit moveset.
They have the best moveset in the game, newfiend.
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>>149362984
Not for a first playthrough. There's a reason most newbies gravitate towards medium shields and big weapons.
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Is that durability bug still happening on the PC versions of DaSII or has it been fixed already?
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pc fc today so I can practice the padrick build
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>>149363529
I counter them with BKUGS or Yhorm/Dragonslayer greataxes. Pretty easy to outtrade.
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>>149363729
They finally fixed it, though I forget if it was just for Scholar or both versions.
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>yfw the Chalice Dungeon equivalents in DS3 are going to be Abyss themed
>yfw Abyss theme encourages lazy design since the Abyss is featureless and dark
>yfw it's going to be just Dark Chasms of the old repeated endlessly
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>>149363726
>There's a reason most newbies gravitate towards medium shields and big weapons.
Yeah, because they're notorious noob traps. Same reason people gravitate towards vengarl's armour despite the efficiency being ass.
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>>149363694

>tfw no R2 parry a la espada ropera

Just fuck my life up senpai
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>>149362608
how much time did you put in your 1st playthrough? (including expasion)
still waiting to go below 50%
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>>149363694
Yeah, my bad.
I meant really, really not fun, they only have pokes with poor tracking.
Good damage and range, but i already did a playthrough with rapiers so i wanted to use something else.
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>>149363997
Just 2hand it and press l2.
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>>149363992
>drangleic set+vengarl helm

Ugh, memories coming back. I don't even remember what I used on my 1st playthrough...elite knight?
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>>149363917
>making dlc you want people to buy based on the most unpopular part of BB
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>tfw beat NG+
>now have to go to NG++ to buy the last miracles and pyromancies I need
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>>149364176
there is nothing wrong with Chalice Dungeons
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>>149364175
I remember using looking glass knight set, plus claymore and drakeknight's greatshield. I must have had a fuckload of vitality
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>>149363997
>no R2 parry

Rapiers in DS2 did have an R2 parry.
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>playing through DaS1 again
>see people using the ASS
I bet they played DS3 first and I bet they put Raw on it too.
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>>149364285
I remember using zwei and mastodon halberd, i also remember 40 str, 40 something vit and like 18 vig

>tfw played with base adp until lv 300+
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>>149364175
Llewellyn set.
It's highly fashionable.
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Hey I'd like a /dsg/ boyfriend
My favorite weapon is the Greatsword, my favorite armor is morne's and I didn't have a particular souls husbando since DeS because it was the only game with little boys.

If you'd like to know more just PM me.
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>>149364439
>they put Raw on it too.
you can't in DaSI. Though it is actually a good early game weapon for faith builds, I use it all the time before switching to a divine weapon.
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>>149364239
>there is nothing wrong with Chalice Dungeons

Anon plz. Chalice Dungeons were like a shittier version of Friend Safari, which was already pretty bad.
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>>149364586
>wanting someone from /dsg/
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is black knight greataxe still usable after the nerfs? the fucking stamina consumption
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>>149364586
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>>149364342
Yeah and I'm sad this part of the moveset didn't make it back in DaS3

>>149364151
So I can enter le epic duel stance instead of parrying??? :^)
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>>149364175
>Get to belltowers on my first playthrough at launch and start pvping.
>Constant stream of people using twin dragons/tower shield, drangleic set, vengarl helm and either greatsword, drangleic greatsword or mace.
>Can't play for shit. Turtle and get their shit pushed in.
Ahh, those were good times.
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>>149364864
You haven't specified the game in that post.
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>>149364913
>Male bell-themed character to patrol the bell towers
>Sacred Chime Hammer
>Watcher's Shield (rings ever time you block)
>Mace of the Insolent in offhand for constant bell ringing

One of my favorite builds tbqh senpai
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>>149364239
can't say the same about your opinion.
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>>149364586
are you top or bottom
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>>149364913
Actually was there anything like that on DaS3 launch?
>>149365051
Later i made a cosplay of launch noobs build. It even got some recognition.
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>>149364616
It's actually just a very good PvE weapon in general.

This is the build I used to RP the Chosen Undead after I put ~250 hours into it and it became the back of my hand.
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Does anyone know the AR multipliers for one handed and two handed attacks in DaS3?
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>>149365014
Earlier in the string DS2 was mentioned. I can't tell if this the same guy talking about a different game or a different person who jumped into the string, and if the latter I can't tell when he jumped in.

This is probably why drinking is discouraged before noon.
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>>149363089
>DeS best armour
I don't know if you're talking about individual armors but it had the least variety. And no cloth physics.
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>>149365231
>just a very good PvE weapon in general.
it's worse than a fucking divine longsword

it's one of the WORST weapons in the entire game
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>>149365460
This. Its only value is the fact that it's quicker to pick up than the divine ember for early catacomb runs.
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>>149365460
[Citation Needed]
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>>149365376
He is probably talking about how each armor looked so unique compared to the others.

>>149365231
Nah, it was just shit. It did really poor damage because of split damage. Most of the time the drake sword would out-damage it.
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>>149364175
I forgot what my first runs fashion started as but I somehow ended up with a build I called the Mighty Manotaur, where I dressed like a minotaur and powerstanced the Executioners Lance and the Greatlance, or whatever that one was called in 2. It was way more fun than it should have been.
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>>149365602
what?
you want proof?

open up the ds1 mugen planner
there isn't a SINGLE combination of stats where ass isn't outclassed by a divine longsword (which is also ass btw)

at 40/40/40 ass doesn't even cap 400 SPLIT DAMAGE

IT'S BEYOND A JOKE
AND SO ARE YOU
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>>149365365
Are there any Dark Souls Carl's?
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>>149365745
Out-damages the 212 sword after like 3 upgrades

>>149365854
>comparing noob weapons to endgame upgrades

well no shit captain obvious. let me just fucking pullout my thunderfury,compare it to a cruel barb and wonder why it's so much better?
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>Hands of Manus
>Weapon Art: Dark Might. After Perseverance, a followup attack with a light attack will send you into an uncontrollable rage similar to War Cry, with Manus' combo attacks, while a heavy attack would focus you on nothing at all, allowing Perseverance's defensive effects to linger at the cost of much of your vision and your speed, like Numbness.
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>>149365963
but ASS is a bad early game weapon
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>>149365854

ASS has 120 divine modifier, Divine LS has 110. ASS is still ass though.
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>>149365890
This one probably fits the theme.
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>>149365963
>oh shit he actually did have proof, better move these goal posts

>Out-damages the 212 sword after like 3 upgrades
it only goes to plus 5
why would you waste all that twinkling on such a piece of ass?
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>>149365963
Drake Sword does 300 damage at max upgrade. the image in >>149365231 shows the ASS doing 368 damage at level 125. The difference is the ASS is doing split damage and requires those stats. The Drake is doing 300 pure physical damage with no scaling stat investment needed.
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>>149365890
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>>149365890
I should have an Artorias Carl on my pc.

Anyway, anyone else think Patches might actually have a deeper role in the story? In the first game he kills Clerics and impedes the player on their quest to Nito.

What if he's sent by one of the Primordial Serpents to keep watch over the player and dick them over if possible?
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>>149366171
>4 twinkling titanite
>the easiest material upgrade to get in-game
>waste

aside from the rare-as-fuck BK weapon drop, what else would you waste TT on that early into the game?

>>149366217
The 212 sword also costs 50k souls and 10 Dragon Scales, which are the rarest upgrade material in-game.
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>>149366321
How similar to Dark Souls I, II and III Bloodborne is?
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>>149366271
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So i sent Greirat to pillage and i have no bosses so i am fucked with his ashes, that wouldnÄ…t be a problem if HE WASN'T SELLING CROSSBOW BOLTS REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>149366416
Ypu probably meant to quote someone else because sorry, I'm only getting BB later this year. Ask Luci.
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>>149366550

>Ä…

What's this?
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>>149366619
BYKA CLYAT etc etc
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>>149366550
Did you send him to pillage Irithyll or Lothric Castle?
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>>149366769
Lothric he should be on Grand Archives roof but he isn't there, anons say i am fucked.
(i have no bosses left and phantoming boss didn't help)

>>149366619
polish letter i've written by mistake
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>>149366415
>>The 212 sword also costs 50k souls and 10 Dragon Scales, which are the rarest upgrade material in-game.

Just farm the drakes or dragon duel. It's not even hard if you are good. I use to use pic related to win FCs all the time.

>what else would you waste TT on that early into the game?
Crest shield, BK weapons, etc.
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test post please ignore
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>>149366769
How can I keep Greirat safe?
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>want to play DaS
>want to pvp in DaS2
>want to try to play DaS3
>want to play Ghostbusters '09
>want to catch Pokemon and get lunch with sister
>only have 4 hours before I have to go to work
>won't be home until 1am

what do
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>Invade as Aldrich Faithful
>Host is some guy getting fucked over by a red and another Faithful at the same time
>Decide to be cancer and join in, get this over with quickly
>Miss the host
>He throws a vestige and takes out the red as he's dodging through mine and the other Faithful's retard strength swings
>Immediately after killing the red host goes into a smooth combo and hits me between my weapon swings
>Kills me by throwign a fireball that hits as soon as I come out of the roll
>Casually sippies while simply walking out of the way of the other Faithful's weapon swings

This guy was just too slick for me to be disappointed that I failed to gank him
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>>149366416
BB is closer to DeS. DaS3 is the closest Dark Souls game to BB, but BB is better.
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>>149367004
Hang out with your sister, you never know what might happen in the future to make these opportunities more scarce.
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>>149367004
quit job and do all other things, seems like a good trade-off
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>>149366947
In irithyll, either make sure you have saved Onionbro from the well when you send Greirat, or if Patches still has Onionbro's armour, tell him where Greirat went, and he'll go and save him
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>tryhard invaders with rouged bleed swords, parry shields and hornet rings
>R1-spamming shitter hosts with 2-3 phantoms he constantly resummons

Is there any middle ground in DS3? Feels like you're at a tremendous disadvantage playing online unless you go full meta or summon a ganksquad.
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>>149366924
>SL125 pvp
>with drake sword
How will this play out
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>>149366914
That's weird considering I sent him to pillage Lothric Castle also after I had beaten all the bosses and still managed to get his ashes. Although that did fuck up Patches, causing him to leave indefinitely because From doesn't know anything about QA. Try talking to Patches and see how that works out for you.
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>>149366947
this
>>149367153

and he always dies in Lothric, no saving there
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>>149367004
Is your sister hot?
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Hey gents.

I'm starting a fight club at the stray demon bridge. I'm on PC, SL 90. No password.

Put your signs near the gate opposite the stray demon.
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>>149367153
Okay thanks. Does it fuck things up if I go to Irithyll Dungeon first before Pontiff?
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>>149367276
She's 13, and no. She's chubby and has lots of acne and farts too much.
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>>149367347
Yes, because that teleports Siegward into his cell so he can't save Greirat.
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>>149367193
Better than you would expect. Most people will see the drake sword and immediately underestimate you, which makes winning that much more amusing. Basically, think of it as winning as Dan in the only SF games.

Even more fun is sending them a message after you win and in it apologizing for using such an OP weapon and offering to teach them how to get it if they want. The reactions are priceless.


>>149366925
resize it to 768x432

>>149367004
If manga/anime has taught us anything it is that you should each lunch off your sister's back while doing her doggy style and playing your games at the same time.
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>>149367295
I'll be there soon.
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>>149367467
>768x432
Weird number. Why that specifically?
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>>149367460
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>>149367460
Oh
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>>149367467
>resize it to 768x432
nah
he's got plenty of filesize to work with, just up the bitrate
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i want to learn how to play das1 pvp but i want to be as backstab-resistant as possible

is this a good way of doing it or would I die over and over and over?

I've played a couple hundred hours of DaS3 PvP, but that's the only souls pvp i've ever experienced.
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>downloading update file
what?
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>>149367224
Didn't work, Patches just slav suqats "We are both outcasts hue", body still not there. Why From loves to add shit that fails permamently in a playthrough.
God fucking damn it.
So now i have to do 3rd playthrought for better bolts and that niggershit Proper Bow gesture.
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>>149367720
>I've played a couple hundred hours of DaS3 PvP
You poor poor man
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>>149367720
>play das1 pvp
>be as backstab-resistant as possible

HUEHUEHUE

DS1 PvP is 95% backstabs and 4% parries.
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>>149367889
Just think, all this could have been avoided if Ascetics were still in the game
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>>149368051
Ascetics didn't reset sidequests.
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>>149367959
sorry dude, make that several hundred hours. wasn't sure myself and just checked myself.
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>>149367590
mod16
http://www.afterdawn.com/glossary/term.cfm/mod16
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>>149367959

>he hasn't played 200 hours on his twink, winning 90% of invasions
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>>149367882
Oh the Denial skip was patched but still no poise
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>>149368269
>twink
>DS3
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>>149368196
Nah, but the Greirat's quest is updated when you beat a boss. If there were ascetics in the game then you could just ascetic vordt or some other boss, beat them, then come back to a dead Greirat as was intended.
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>>149368325
It's still possible.
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>>149367967
backstab resistant is perfectly plausiable

you can't get backstabbed if they can't touch you

r-right
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>>149367573
sorry buddy, doesnt look like theres anyone else down. im gonna rush this character to pontiff area so i can host there
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>>149367967
Just wear Thorns gauntlets and roll into the enemy player whenever you suspect an incoming backstab.
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>>149368558
>Weapon Memory PLUS Soul Level
>It's still possible
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>>149368325
You can get gud items on a low level char. I
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Why aren't you guys watching the r1 meta tourney on right now?
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>>149368723
That's very unreliable.
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>>149368806

But anon, I am.

>Oroboro just losing right away

ayyy lmao
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So, most of my invasions I end up losing because I nearly kill the host/phantoms and then they heal, then they damage me enough that I need to heal, and I simply run out of healing before everyone else and they win by attrition.

How do I break out of this? It's probably to do with the fact that much of my playstyle relies on baiting attacks and winning trades, which I manage to do, but I just get chipped down too much.
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>>149367720
>Claymore
First failure if you wanted to not be backstabbed.

>Heaviest armor in the game
Rarely anyone will R1 mash you to the point where poisebreak is achieved at 77, unless you're hit twice with a Zweihander, in which case you should reconsider your tactics. I mean I guess you could regardless for the security of never getting poisebroken, but having played you should get out of situations where you won't win trades.

And no armor set will protect you from backstabs. Defense might lessen the impact of weaker ones, but if someone's going for backstabs it's either because they know it's strong. You'd be much better being able to survive backstabs, though being that agile certainly helps. Popular poisebreaks the game uses are 31 to tank a 2HR1 from a katana, 36 to tank a 1HR1 from a Claymore, 41 for two 1HR1s from katanas, 56 to tank Claymore 2HR1s, 61 to tank two 2HR1s, and 77 to survive a single Zweihander hit.

>Chaos
You know it scales with Humanity, right? Just checking.

>16 Strength with a GCS
If that shield's gonna stay on your back, you may as well have 13 Strength instead and two hand it all the time.

>Fashion
Shit-tier, mate.
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>>149368596
You can wear armor of thorns and roll into them. Even if they land the BS, the damage will be cancelled. You can also avoid BSes by being super-passive with a spear.

>>149368726
Rings, plus not all weapons are created equal.
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>>149366947
Refuse to send him to pillage to Irithyll.

You'll miss out on both Irithyll and Lothric items since he also won't give you the option to go to Lothric.
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>>149368806
My buddy is playing in it, he actually thinks this laggy, running R1 spam fest is a test of skill.
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>>149368875
obobobo has never been gud
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>>149368806
>turn on stream
>baobao vs black knight glaive parry spamming
rofl
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>>149368726
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u2yQWJMPu0o

Twinking was patched in, dude.
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>>149368875
That's not really a big deal unless it is double elimination.
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>>149368596
>you can't get backstabbed if they can't touch you

You overestimate DS1. Hell, even DS2's wierdass punch nonsense was better than DS1's magnet backstabs, at the very least people usually had to make contact with your body in later games.
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>>149368875
Nobody in this tournament is good, there's no depth to the game in the slighest, just whoever times there lag infused, huge hitbox weapons the best.
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>>149369051
You can get Dark Hand as soon as you kill Vordt. Not twinking.
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>>149368806
what stream?
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>>149368726

Don't have the picture right now, so I'll write it out for you.

>SL22-25
>Undead Settlement
>Raw Dragonslayer's Axe +3 plus Lightning Resin
>Blessed Caestus offhand
>FAP+2, Life Ring+3, Hornet Ring, Prisoner's Chain
>meet minimum requirements for axe, all other stats into Vigor

Congrats, you now kill phantoms in 3 quick R1s and hosts in about 4, while it takes about 12-15 straight swords swings from them to kill you.

All parries and sometimes even backstabs are one-shots of course.
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>>149369249
havok on twitch dark souls 3
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>>149369193
>its not twinking because you get it early
retard alert
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>>149365243
Go to wikidot and find the Google doc for AR calcs, it has 1h/2h r1s and r2s in there calculated for every weapon and shield by default at your set stats and upgrade level.
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This nigger is an evil fuck.
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>>149369383
Yes, it's not twinking because you get it early.
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>>149369193
Just because the ultimate twinking weapon is at the first level doesn't mean it does not fucking melt people.

Also, with icing on that cake, it can't be upgraded, so you will always fight people with +0-+>2 weapons, and a SL1 can cast Great Chaos Fireball.
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>carthus vs estoc with bks
the power
of dark souls 3
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>>149369475
It's just an OP weapon early game, doesn't make it twinking. Is the Drake Sword early game twinking?
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>>149369401
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>>149369537
Well there is 2 UGS now... The power of dark souls 3?
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>invading in Settlement, SL20 or so
>encounter a guy in dragon form with a Hollowslayer GS that can swing it like seven times
>>
DLC WHEN WHEN WHEN WHEN WHEN WHEN WHEN WHEN WHEN WHEN WHEN WHEN WHEN
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>>149368204
It's so tiny now.
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>>149369401
I like his ladder mimic more to be honest.
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>deep infused ccs
>still doing 276 damage
rofl
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>>149367460
Good for you for being a bro tho. Be a good role model.
>>
>>149369582
>>149369461
What makes someone a twink? Is it that they are cosplaying as the Nameless King as early as possible? Is it the fact that you have all the endgame gear at level one in a game where weapons are intended to be balanced so that at +10 they are all around equal strength?

No, a twink is, by definition, a small little faggot. Being clad in overpowered stuff makes him a fag, but the fact that he's low SL makes him a twink.
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>>149369537
these are so boring to watch
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>>149369401
The coiled sword should be its tongue with the mouth gaping and facing upwards just underground, like a bonfire antlion.
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>>149369858
"Twink" becomes meaningless if you use it to denote every low-level invader.
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praise the sun coming on stream
ready for him to get smashed
>>
who here /team praise/
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>>149369790
It's big enough for the bitrate quality
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>>149369790
It looks so much better though.
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>>149368806
we all already know that skorbrand will win
no point really
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>>149369975
>>149369978
onacubi and ubadabu l1 l2 l1 l1 incomming
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>>149369790
>>149370023
>>149370034
Oh, and it cut off the actual riposte for some reason. Even though I told it to do the full 10 seconds.
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>>149370109
Are you using webmforretards?

Remove the "-fs xxxxxxx" from the Argument bar in Advanced tab.
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>>149370084
The last L1 of that doesn't combo. You can only do L1L2L1, which, honestly, you completely deserve if you unironically get caught by the slow, no-reach L1.

The problem is the fact that you can L2L1 at all, since it's completely fucking free and lets you shut down so many attacks on reaction with instant hyperarmor jump stagger.
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Are there any other UGS besides the Greatsword, FUGS and BKGS that have the vertical swing moveset while 2h?
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>>149369964
Not every low level invader is overpowered, therefore not every low level invader is a twink. Fags can be big, and fags can be small, but sometimes normal people are small, too. Those are just regular, low level invaders. Someone dressed up as the Dancer at low SL isn't overpowered, so they are not a twink, just a low level invader. If someone invades with a Dark Hand, Iron Flesh, and Great Chaos Fireball, ready and able to kill 4 people easily because he outdamages them and their normal equipment, they are both a lowlevel invader and a fag, and with those powers combined, he becomes a twink.
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>>149370369
Cathedral Knight Greatsword, but it's really fucking short.
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LOL NICE ONE PRAISE


TARD
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>>149370487
What happened?
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>>149370572
weebjumped himself into an estoc turtlepoke counterhit
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>>149367720
This build is pretty much immune to backstabs
https://mugenmonkey.com/darksouls/509552
And the HP gauge version with 77 poise
https://mugenmonkey.com/darksouls/509553
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Yo @PraiseTheSunPvP stop parrying, take it slow, play patient. You got this!

Yo @PraiseTheSunPvP stop parrying, take it slow, play patient. You got this!

Yo @PraiseTheSunPvP stop parrying, take it slow, play patient. You got this!

Yo @PraiseTheSunPvP stop parrying, take it slow, play patient. You got this!

Yo @PraiseTheSunPvP stop parrying, take it slow, play patient. You got this!

Yo @PraiseTheSunPvP stop parrying, take it slow, play patient. You got this!
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>>149370402
Feck. It barely gets close (doesn't break!) 600 AR with refined/qhollowty. Ugh.
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It doesn't produce any electric sounds upon casting unlike lightning stake, is it normal ?
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>>149370635
The weeb jump should generally win that trade anyways.
Estoc turtlepoke won't break the L2's hyperarmor unless the game's magical *&%POISE%&* shenanigans behind the curtain arbitrarily chooses that moment to decide your hyperarmor is no longer effective because of reasons too esoteric and obscured to the player to ever track.
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How bad is this build? (16 str for CB)
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>>149370394
So is a low-level Burg invader a twink if they use the Drake Sword?
>>
LUL
LUL
ULU
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>>149370772
just fucking call it quallowty jesus

>>149370860
he blocked it. that's what turtlepoke means.

BK shield has good stability.
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>>149370860

He would've won that trade like you said except he used it when he had enough health to die in a single R1.
>>
I want to get as much as possible out of the game in one playthrough. Recommend a build for that, and tell me about how much vitality and endurance I will need.
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>>149370964
Turtlepoking reduces your shield's block absorption by like 60% and the attack itself does hardly any. Even a dagger out-trades an estoc on a turtlepoke trade.
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>>149371142
go pyro
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>>149368964
Who's your buddy?
>>
>>149371178
Trades don't matter when it does half damage.

Leoring turtlepoke counterhit = 400 damage and praise only had 218 HP left.

we can argue about this all day, the fact is a blocked weebjump is worthless, turtlepoke or not
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>walk through boss fog
>see this
what do?
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>>149331981
>>149331981
>>149331981
Anyone?
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>>149371380
shoot with evelyn until it dies
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>>149371380
Wonder why I'm playing 10fps Souls
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>>149371314
brokensword, I work with him IRL
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>>149371329
>Leoring turtlepoke counterhit = 400 damage
That's a crock of bullshit. A non-CH turtlepoke doesn't even break 150 because its modifier is fucking horrible. At absolute best, you get 250 of a leo-boosted counter

It's fucking retarded that your e-celeb hero used a HA trading move to jump into an estoc turtle when he had no health left to trade with, though.
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>>149371418

Not much.
Yes.
Nothing.
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>>149370860
>you will never aggressively flirt with Gwyndolin
>he will never run off flustered
>he will never tell Nameless King that your an asshole
>Nameless King will never kick the shit out of you

Why live
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>>149371524
I think I fought him once some days ago, i only remember getting rekt with some metashittery
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>>149370878
>16 str for CB
what
>>
>>149371380
Stay on /bbg/. This is an e-celeb and shitposting-only general
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>>149371380
Play Benny Hill song
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>>149371640
He's a massive try hard, he only uses the strongest meta weapon (in this case running R1 Washing Pole with meta Armour)
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>>149370931
The Drake Sword ain't got shit on the Dark Hand. No requirements, 300 damage on a caestus moveset, very stamina efficient, and has a grab that deals 600~ damage and heals. Defense is also a shit in this game because how how it's calculated based on level, screwing lower level people over if they want to be tanky, so the Dark Hand deals more damage than the Drake Sword would ever do to someone in enough armor that could poise through a single straightsword swing. Drake Sword isn't even a good weapon when you get it.
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>>149371703
Answer the question.
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>>149371562
Praise was wearing bloodring and the dude's bestoc was resined
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>>149371380
In all my time spelunking I've never gotten Loran Darkbeast in the pit fuckroom, and I thank god for that.

God speed, anon. You will need it.
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>>149371692
>meta armour
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>>149370878
Anyone?

>inb4 quit playing a dead game
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>>149371474
NEVER FUCKING EVER LMFAO
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>>149371650
has /dsg/ really fallen that far?
>>
>>149371769
Best weight to stat ratio, Dragonslayer armour etc.

Like I said it's try hard shit that barely matters.
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>>149371749
No, a Drake Sword isn't even a good early game weapon, let alone a twink weapon.
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>>149371775
I really hope so.
>>
>>149371769

I think he means Ornstein's armor + Sunset helm which is apparently the best armor in the game on a defense/weight ratio or something.
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Trevor?
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>>149371643
doesn't chaos blade require 16 strength in ds1?
>>
Is there enough time to switch to the Agape ring after killing someone in DaS2 PvP? I don't want to lose a ring slot while invading
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>>149371764
>Praise was wearing bloodring
Hahaha of course he would.
Why am I not surprised that an e-celeb shitter would be using the shitter ring of "lol just don't get hit bro" and get fucked for it.

Why would you even use the bloodring with 2kat? Their rolling attacks are shit and the gimmick that makes the competitive is an HA move that you use to tradefish. What a joke.
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>>149371380
I don't play bloodborne but this area doesn't look very safe
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>>149371821
>fallen
anon...
>>
Why aren't you watching the tournament lads?

https://www.twitch
.tv/xs_havok
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WE WANT TRAVOR!
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>>149372023
/dsg/'s fcs are funner
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>>149372023
immediately closed after praise lost
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>>149372124
obviously, they aren't all pretending this game has a deep meta and having fun

these retards think they're playing a fucking fighting game
>>
Guys, please, I need help. I already searched everywhere and can't find a solution. My game keeps freezing after like 1 hour of playing. What do?
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>at post pope
>aldrich invade
>we start dueling before giants as he tries getting me into deacons range
>second aldrich invades
>he watches us, waits for his friend to die, then dies himself

Why in the fuck? He joined a fucking ganking covenant and let me kill his bro, I'm glad I didn't die to him because that faggot deserved no dregs. Cancer has taken over this shit.
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>>149372184
lmao exposed
>>
>>149372224
buy vga that doesn't shit itself
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>>149372190
the good ones dont, its just people like you who dont like it when others get good at something
literally scrub mentality
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>>149372124
>/dsg/ FCs are funner
>2+2014 and still believing that
>>
scottjund up next
get ready for ultra passive reactive washing pole with ccs backup
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>>149372338
>the good ones dont, its just people like you who dont like it when others get good at something
are you watching this tournament? the only attacks that have connected 90% of the time are running R1s

the skill ceiling ends at having functional hands
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>>149372023
It's pretty boring honestly. If I wanted to see a bunch of tryharding retards rolling around and fishing running R1s with a katana I'd go to Pontiff's.
>>
>>149372242
Is this bizarro world?
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>>149372242
>People whine bitch and cry about ganks
>Some people decide to not gank and just fight
>People still whine bitch and cry
You fags are never pleased with anything
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>>149372242
>tfw a red invader and two aldrich faithful start dueling you
Holy shit i'm glad i didn't get gangraped
>>
>>149371912
pls respond
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>>149372304
Is GTX 660 Ti SC not good enough? Do I need a better one?
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Does GMB protect only agains sorcery damage, or all magicks?
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>>149372504
CE
>>
>>149372376
Fuck you Scott

>>149372543
Maybe your CPU is the one dying lol
>>
>>149372242
>we start dueling
So he's dueling, as in 1v1s?
>He joined a fucking ganking covenant
It was a dueling covenant two seconds ago.
>>
>>149371380
Leave. That boss, plus a pit would be hell.
>>
>complaining about invaders "twinking" in DaS3 when hosts can password summon SL120s with actual, usable end game gear and max estus while WM stops invaders from doing the same
>>
>>149372432
Because those are the moves with the most range. Scott just mauled a guy without running R1s, and it was a bloodtards faggot.
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>>149372754
his opponent has downs, hes the worst player in the tournament
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the magic..............
the fun.........................
the beauty.................. of dark............ soles............... third..............
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>>149371142
Somebody please give me a useful answer
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>>149372826
That would be obobobo. Or PTS.
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>>149372581
If it works like it did in Dark Souls 1 it only reduces magic damage taken, as in spells that are blue.

Pretty good buff against magic type damage though.
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>>149372607
Shit, I have an Intel I3, how do I know if it's fucked up? I only have problems while playing DS3.
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>>149372842
40
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>get patches
>don't buy catarina set
>get to irithyll
>bumrush to sully
>send greirat to irithyll
>tell patches
>stops selling stuff
>beat sully after 100 tries
>patches starts selling again
>greirat still missing

what did I do wrong?
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>>149372592
I don't play on PC

>>149371912
pls respond
>>
>first playthrough str/fth
>game is fun but end up whacking my way through it with a longsword because miracles suck
>try pyromancer second
>the hybrid melee/spellcaster I wanted all along

Why does lightning spear suck so much in DaSIII?
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>>149372746
>WM stops invaders from doing the same

No it doesn't, it just stops invaders from having upgraded gear, and even then it doesn't take rings into account.

I was recenly invaded by someone wearing the +2RoSP who I straight up couldn't beat because I was doing like 30DMG per hit.

>MFW twinks are still trying to pretend that anti-twink measures are arbitrary changes
>>
>>149373010
Yes, there's enough time to ringswap Agape in.
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>>149372459
I never bitch about ganks, I only hate FCs.

>>149372451
Considering I'm on NG+ levels, Aldriches only spawn after you leave the faggot arena and he tried to throw shit at his ally to get him to attack me, it's fucked up

>>149372620

No, he was pseudo dueling trying to get me into enemies range, he just didn't want to estus for some stupid reason.
>>
>>149373038
They tied the damage to being in melee range on attacks with next to no aoe and width.
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>>149372993
they patched it you need onion to save him
>>
Why do you get so few attunement slots per investment in 3 compared to previous games? To get 5 slots in 1 you needed 19 attunement, in 2 you need 25, and in 3 you need fucking 30. And in 2 attunement actually had worth beyond slots since it increased cast speed, and there was a ring that gave 3 free slots to make up if you lacked points in it. Meanwhile in 3 you have to invest way more in attunement as a caster to get a variety of spells where casters are already stretched thing by basic build requirements and higher softcaps compared to most classes. Makes no sense.
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am i the only one?
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mfw im going to have to listen to this fucking cuck all day at work tomorrow talk about how he won the tournament

please someone beat him
>>
>>149372993
If you enter Irithyll dungeon before saving Patches then you're boned. It also wouldn't surprise me if it was some sort of glitch, on my 2nd playthrough I used a guide to attempt to save Greirat with Onioknight and the motherfucker straight up disappeared from my game, no ashes or anything.
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>>149373417
He's unembered.
>>
>>149373362
Because Miyazaki wanted DaSIII to be like Bloodborne, where everyone is a quick melee character.
>>
>>149373272
>patched

I see what you did there
>>
>>149372842
ffs, go pyromancer don't lvl past 30/30 for int/fai. there is no point leveling end early on so lvl vig. 18/18 str/dex is enough to try 60% of the weapons in the game.
need more spoon feeding? >>>/reddit/
>>
>>149373417
Yes, havok's character is dead so you're just invading players in the tournament
>>
>>149373448

Where do you work anon? Your life seems interesting.
>>
>>149371142
>I want to get as much as possible out of the game in one playthrough.
>So I'm having strangers do everything for me instead of learning the game for myself

#MillennialGamers
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>>149369396

Do you mean this one? https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1q54zHO7kLuMxbZyFXb7ANHKogz6Mvbir0cA3YqI6Xuk

Please help me, Anon, I can't find that information there. The AR for 1h and 2h seems to be calculated using the information in the HP an JN colums on the WeaponsBase sheet, but they don't look like AR multipliers to me.
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>>149373272
That's not true cause I just had Patches save him
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>>149359552
is there anyone that can give me the chameleon sorcery? don't want to have to go to the next ng just to get it
>>
>>149373448
Do you talk a lot when you are spooning with him on the bed, fag?
>>
>>149373698
you used to be able to but no longer.
>>
>>149373760
yes
>>
Haven't played DaS3 much since release week.

Were there any major balance changes for PvP, or is it still straight swords, estocs, and hornet rings?
>>
>>149373715
Can't drop spells. Just buy Witchtree branches.
>>
>>149373839
There's the occasional pyromancy shitter and spearfag now too.
>>
>>149373790
Do you take turns on who is bottom?
>>
Soothing Sunlight or Great Heal ?
>>
>>149373839

It's less Straight Swords and Estocs and more Carthus/other curved swords and Glaives, which were always the best but weren't popular.
>>
Anybody wanna High Wall PS4 FC?
>>
>>149373839
check the twitch tourney and see for yourself
>>
>>149373915
estus +10
>>
>>149373839
It's literally same shit.
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>>149373787
I literally mean yesterday anon, pls stop lying
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>>149366925

Open the file with firefox or whatever browser you are using to quickly test how it looks here
>>
>>149373914
yes
>>
>>149374086
it was literally in the patch notes ages ago what are you doing to make it work?
>>
>Bao Bao 1-0 v Skorbrand so far

Literally our boi.
>>
>>149374295
Who
>>
>>149374295
based bao bao blowing e-celebs the fuck out
>>
>>149374339

Star of this masterpiece.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=olJUKyFanJk
>>
>>149374260
I just sent Greirat out, reloaded the Firelink so he was gone, told Patches, who still had Siegmyer's armour, where he was. Afterwards, I went and killed Dancer for the boss to move the quest ahead, and then they were both back, Greirat mentioning how a guy in Onion armour saved him
>>
>>149374339
The only guy who's not using Card Captors in the tournament.
He's still using offhand estoc, though.
>>
>>149374295

Never heard of him outside of this >>149374442

Did he do DaS1 PvPs?
>>
>>149374442
>Beating the shit out of Brandon on DaS2
Even I did that.
>>
>garg flame spear + estoc offhand
cant wait to bring this to dsg fcs :)
>>
BAO
A
O
>>
>>149374706
>he didn't know beforehand

Git gud
>>
>>149374706
That's a counter to WP. Doesn't really work agains WACKY builds but you will still have the advantage because ESTOC.
>>
>>149374593
he made brandon mad in ds2 once
>>
>not a single ultra weapon in the entire tourney

ye...... d-dark souls 3....... great variety :)
>>
>>149374482

I did this exact same thing today but greirat still ended up drying

I didn't even go into irthyll dungeon

I don't understand this questline
>>
>>149375061
bao bao was using the AGS right now, retard
>>
>>149375061

Astora GS.
>>
>there are 'people' who play the souls games for pvp
>>
>>149375101
>>149375102
>holding it in his hand for 2 seconds counts guys
nope
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>tfw working with Pontiff Knights to take out a 3 man gank squad

Those motherfuckers are useful
>>
>>149375197
They are designed to catch panic rolling. They're a murder machine.
>>
>>149375197
>invade 3 man squad in Settlement
>use congregation around Evangelist for cover
>password summoned phantom uses Rapport on all of them
heh nothin personnel kid
>>
>>149375197
I got invaded solo, and the asshole ran into them. I just ran back to the start and summoned a stream of suicide phantoms. The phantom managed to kill them, but they manage to deplete all his estus.

His last one healed him to full, then we fought one on one. Poor bastard never managed to touch me.
>>
What's the most infuriating gesture to do after you've killed someone in this game? Applause? Point down? Legion Etiquette?
>>
>>149375174
You wouldn't even know about the series without the pvp m8.
>>
>>149375452
>lucifer uses phantoms
not surprising in the slightest
>>
>>149375514
stalk dung pie
>>
>>149375514
turn around and slowly walk away


>>149375536
If I am solo, right by the bonfire, and you invade and immediately run into the mobs, then why would I not summon an army?
>>
>>149375514
Patches Squat.
>>
It is sad that Scott "Only React" Jund gets this much attention from the community, seeing as he is one of the WORST influences on the game. He literally only reacts too when his opponents swings, and never mixes up his attacks and I have yet too see him preform any of the newly discovered tech (ie. reverse backsteps, 360 parries, etc.). Wake up people, and understand this main is destorying Dark Souls
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>>149375514
I like to drop carvings down now, but I usually Applause when I wanna BM someone hard after I wreck their shit.

>fighting some tard with a BKG
>beating him
>immediately switches to his dark sword and tries to R1 spam
>parry that faggot into the grave
>drop "Thank you!" carvings on his corpse while he fades into nothing
>>
>dudley shitting all over scott
lmao
>>
>>149375675
Sure, senpai a lama. Post that on reá Žá Žá Žddá Žá Žit and twitch.
>>
>>149375675
Playing reactively is the best way to win. It's why I rekt so much face back in DaS1. He didn't invent it so why the hate?
>>
>>149375807
running r1 shitting all over slightly mistimed running r1
>>
>There are people unironically watching a fucking dark souls 3 tournament
What is wrong with you people
>>
>scottjund abusing the bloodring bug
nice
>>
Does Patches even sell any good shit from Irithyll? I don't really want to get him messed up for nothing if he doesn't even stock good items afterwards. Can I kill Pontiff first, then send Greirat and fug up Aldbitch?
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>>149370279
It's not there.
>>
>>149375958
What bug?
>>
>>149375934
we have literally nothing better to do.
>>149375958
What bug?
>>
>>149375514

Try kicking.
>>
>>149376008
>>149376021
>implying i'd post it here
cus we all want dsg fight clubs to go even further down the shitter right
>>
>it is toxic to the competitive pvp nature of the game to ban stuff
10/10, this is comedy gold.
>>
>>149376116
He was taking regular card captor damage, I doubt he was using it.
>>
>>149375996
Is that an old version or forked something? Mine got way more stuff
>>
>>149369790
Why do people call Nameless King the hardest boss in DaS3?
>>
>>149376160
Because none of the bosses are hard.
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>>149376116
dsg fightclubs are full of trysoft memers though
>>
>>149373452
I didn't

does the bonfire past the lake before the dungeon counts as the dungeon?
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>Invading in Carthus Catacombs
>Run away from host, phantom and dork moon
>They chase
>Trigger skeleton army
>Destroy the bridge so they can't run away across it
>Spin them to death with the help of one million skeletons
>>
>>149376135
It is though. It implies that everything that is "just a bit" stronger than other things must be banned. Did people ban Queen in chess?
>>
>decide to go back to dark souls I
>I start struggling with the gargs
>>
>>149376284
Chess is balanced tho
>>
>>149376382
Sure, if you're white
>>
>>149376275
HOL UP

You can destroy the bridge as an invader?
>>
>>149376135
stuff should be tiered
>>
>"One of the things I observe today while watching Scott play is that he is REALLY good at just sitting there and doing NOTHING"
fucking L M A O
like pottery
>>
>>149376246
>implying
>>
>>149376284
No but they did ban Elphelt from competitive guilty gear tournaments because she was broken as fuck. They also ban instantkills from tournament play.

Every competitive game embraces banning blatant imbalances and game-destabilizing factors when necessary, because people who value the competitive nature of their game recognize when the presence of some factor is inimical to the health of competition.

Not that any of that applies to dark souls, though, since it's there's no 'competitive pvp nature" to the game.
>>
>>149376458
You sure can, buddy.
>>
2-0'D LUL 2-0'D LUL 2-0'D LUL 2-0'D LUL 2-0'D LUL 2-0'D LUL 2-0'D LUL 2-0'D LUL 2-0'D LUL 2-0'D LUL 2-0'D LUL 2-0'D LUL
>>
>>149376116
>implying there's anything worth saving in das3 pvp
>>
>>149376509
That's because GG is a joke animu fighter. Real players play blazblue.

>Scott btfo
lmao
>>
>>149376509
>Instant Kills
>Any need to ban.
>Not completely useless.
Lolseriously?
>>
>>149376575
>blazblue
lmao
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>reynad
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>>149376575
>Real players play blazblue.
Nine was tournament banned for a while, as was that light novel bitch with the healing drive whose name I can't recall.
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>>149376693
He's lying. There's a recent video of lostsoul shitting all over dogura with an instant kill in a tournament.
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>>149369790
>that baby damage
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>>149376509
That's exactly why most vidya can't be competitive, the true competitive ganes or sports don't need to remove anything because their very rules already took care of it
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>>149365832
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DAodHPCmGsk
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HIGH LEVEL PVP
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>>149376872
ST banned Akuma and it is by far the most competitive game to date besides Counter Strike.
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>>149376693
They're banned for a couple of reasons:
there's certain edge-case situations in which you can legitimately punish things with instantkills. The most notable one is ABA's detransformation after a hard knockdown, which is so long that you can IK-punish her after a sweep. There's that famous match where Buppa IK'd Dio and got himself DQ'd just to BM like a bastard

Otherwise, they're just cheesy, and almost exclusively used to BM, which is obviously discouraged because bad sportmanship is not acceptable in tournament play.
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>>149376149
That's an older one.
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https://www.reddit.com/r/darksouls3/comments/4ijfd6/player_patch_notes_regulation_update_111/

HOLY FUCKING SHIT IT'S THE PATCH OF ALL PATCHES

>Global efficiency adjustment for "Refined" infusion. May no longer be enchanted.
>Global efficiency adjustment for "Hollow" infusion. May no longer be enchanted.
>Global efficiency adjustment for "Heavy" infusion.
>Global efficiency adjustment for "Sharp" infusion.
>Adjusted the attack rate, efficiency, and damage of Curved Swords.
>Adjusted the attack rate, efficiency, and damage of Straight Swords.
>Adjusted the attack rate and efficiency of Ultra Greatswords.
>Adjusted the attack rate and efficiency of Greathammers.
>Adjusted the damage and efficiency of Fume Ultra Greatsword.
>Increased faith scaling efficiency of Lothric's Holy Sword.
>Increased faith scaling efficiency of Morne's Greathammer.
>Adjusted damage and efficiency of the Saint Bident
>Reduced damage of the Farron Greatsword.
>Adjusted efficiency of Farron Greatsword weapon art.
>Added running heavy attack to Farron Greatsword.
>Adjusted critical hit parameters of Farron Greatsword. Players' backs should no longer be considered vulnerable during unique moveset.
>Two-handed Farron Greatsword moveset may no longer be parried.
>Reduced the damage and efficiency of Washing Pole running attack
>Reduced the damage and efficiency of Uchigatana running attack
>Reduced the damage and efficiency of Chaos Blade running attack
>Reduced the efficiency of the Gotthard's Twinswords rolling attack.
>Adjusted the balance of Lucerne. Two-handed moveset no longer deals thrust damage.
>Reduced efficiency of Hornet Ring critical damage.
>Adjusted efficiency of Vitality stat.
>Adjusted absorption values of Havel's armor set.
>Adjusted efficiency of Poise.
>Corrected an issue where Ring of Steel Protection was not granting proper protection in PvP.

And then you read this spoiler. rip your dreams, anon.
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>>149376895
Manotaur didn't deserve that. Poor fucker got killed because the Monarch used an alias that actually had a person tied to it.
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>>149376116
>Allegedly some e-celeb said bloodring would give more i-frames then it should.
>fextranon accepted this as fact and started calling it a crutch
>still no proof that the bug exists
this is like the time when people kept telling that sunbros could invade a world where there was already a red
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>>149376135
That's true though. The only time you ban shit is when it is completely broken, like TWoD.
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>>149377068
Literally where?
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>>149377068
Good effort. It looks exactly like their "why talk about numbers" patches. But I stopped believing as soon as you mentioned refined.
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>>149377218
rused
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>>149377286
who?
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>>149377068
Why are you doing this to me
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>>149377087
I'm willing to bet it was just Jund being an asshole throwing the info out there to make people use it so he could 4 shot them with a Card Captor.
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>>149376971
That's not my point, if you need to add rules besides what is possible, they you're forcing balance on something that isn't. A balanced game needs no bans
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>>149377068
MAKE FUGS GREAT AGAIN
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Does having the old wolf curved sword in the offhand boost the power of your right hand weapon too?
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>>149377407
What if the game has a legit joke character broken as fuck with the most retarded hitboxes and frames ever but without him it's like VF4 balance?
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How do you counter spears in DaS3?
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>>149377578
L2
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>>149377578
setup parry
longer spear
hyper armor
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>>149377578
R1
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>>149377578
You either block them or use hyper armor to trade through it.
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>>149377423
Yes, the healing and attack boosting effects can also be triggered by attacks done by the other weapon, even if you're two handing it with Old Wolf on your back.
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>>149377578
Roll
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>>149377578

See >>149377685

>longer spear
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>>149377578
shut the fuck up broken sword
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>try to summon phantom
>unable
>his sign disappears and reappears 5 feet from it's original position
Is this some sort of epic new troll, or is my network shit?
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>>149377578
Put a spear or a shield in your off hand.
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The magic clutch effects the Moonlight R2 projectile damage, yeah?

Also the sage ring+2 seems almost mandatory for using offensive spells for pvp. Is it worth sacrificing the +2 chloranthy for?
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>>149377852
He erased his sign and put it down again.
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>>149377879
Magic Clutch affects ALL magic damage
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>>149377639
>>149377685
>Parry
What if spear user is slightly competent?
>>149377735
>Hyperarmor
But they are so fast that even if i enter hyperarmor frames when they hit me they recover before i hit them.
>>149377818
What if opponent uses the longest spear.
>>149377865
I guess shield is the only way.
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>>149377752
So why doesn't everyone use it in the offhand?
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>>149377865
Who is this poster? Is she/he/it bad?
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>>149378030
Extra weight and the effect takes a few hits to trigger.
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>people are still playing Cancer Souls
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Anyone else rooting for brokensword so the anon here can suffer?
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>>149378006
Even sorceries? Should I still keep the bellowing dragon equipped?
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dear god someone please cheese proof of concord tokens with me, i am mentally dying trying to do this legit.
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>tfw no mundane infusion

so how exactly did it work? from what i gather it scaled off of your lowest damage-relevant stat and the higher than lowest stat was, the more effective?

i.e. 99 all stats gave it like SSGSS+7 scaling?
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>>149378096
I'm rooting for baobao because he's not using moeshit
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>>149373634
Is Vigor as much of a stat tax in this game?
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>>149378030
>13 points in weight for hp regen and attack boost after billion hits
just use some regen ring or blessed offhand and apply resin instead
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>>149378062
She's cute.
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>>149378141
Use CE my man.
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>>149378107
Yes and Yes, Bellowing gives more damage than magic clutch.
Magic clutch also gives only a part of it's bonus in PvP
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>>149378142
It scales off of your lowest stat, period. Not the lowest damage relevant. Also it adds flat damage, so it's only really useful for quick weapons, but they nerfed it's effectivness with daggers, so only with rapiers and shit, and only at really high levels.
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>>149378142
it just scaled off your lowest stat in general, doesn't have to be damage relevant. I remember having loads of fun making mundane builds that were evenly spread across the board.
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>>149376971
>it is by far the most competitive game to date besides Counter Strike
Shoot yourself right in the head
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>>149378062
He is some annoying fag. Filter.
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>>149378374
prove me wrong.
oh yeah, you cant.
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>>149378326
i am not desperate enough to cheat it, i just want it to be done though, anyone wanna invade each other or some shit
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Is it still cancer if I use lighting CCS on my faith build?
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http://www.strawpoll.me/10789924/

REMINDER THAT YOUR OPINIONS ARE IMPORTANT
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>>149378404
Why does she use a trip?
Can't she stop?
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>>149378336
Oh, damn. My mage is a total pvp build. Should I drop the clutch in that case¿
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>>149378030
I think a lot of people just plain don't know about it or keep it in mind, also it's heavy and can take quite a few hits to trigger depending on the weapon. It's fantastic to use with twin weapons though, 2 L1s trigger the damage boost and a third does the heal. It's what I did throughout my first playthrough. Pretty solid weapon to use itself as well and it's really fun.
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>tfw Wolnir was a badass Lore-wise
>his boss fight is absolute shit
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>>149378471
How would that even work, there's no way we can help you. This only works for medals/tongues/shackles.
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>>149378543
He is too full of himself.
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>>149378142
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>>149378546
Yes, unless you want to go full glass cannon. It gives like 5% bonus damage in PvP
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>>149378471
>I'm not desperate enough to get them in a way the developers didn't intend I'm just desperate enough to get them in a way the developers didn't intend
okay
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>>149378565
Well, they needed to have pinwheel 3.0, didn't they?
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>>149378662
So if I mundane'd an avelyn at 99-all, it'd do base+250 damage?

fucking incredible.
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>>149378096
LMAO GET FUCKED

EXPOSED

SHITTER
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>washing pole with off hand estoc
>garg flame spear with off hand estoc
christ
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>>149378720
5% isn't enough for the whole ring slot, I guess.

Thanks, anon.
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>>149378096
Maybe you should have kept using the CCS, britfag.
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>>149378856
So.... This... Is... The... Power... Of... Dark... Souls... 3...
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>>149378821
No, it would do 1/4 base + 250
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>>149378565
>tfw Deacons have top tier music and atmosphere
>their fight is absolute shit
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>>149378856
offhand avelyn is where its at
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>>149378948
Whoa... this... is... truly.... the... peak.... of.... of.... pee.... vee... pee......
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>>149378821

Sorry, that's not a very good graph. After your lowest stat is 30, you only get 1 AR per level. So 99 in all should have base+304.
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>>149378995
What is wrong with their fight, it's quite fun with pretty much any weapon. You can spam spin WAs and beyblade them. You can use the Aldrich ring while you backstab them non-stop. You can vestige or soul stream half of the deacons. It even makes fth fun with WotG or Storm
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how hard did praise lose?
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>>149379310
he got deleted almost instantly, it was pointless him turning up
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>>149379310
He was literally worse than oro and oro is an invader
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>>149379310
he didn't praise enough
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>>149379221
It's not even a fucking boss fight. It's just a bunch of dudes in a room who stand there helplessly while you whale on them.
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Fuck Irithyll! Pontiff knights are anti-fun!
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>>149379397
>>149379443
>>149379472
good
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>>149379310
Apparently he tripped over his weebjump crutch again.
Not a surprise since he seems to use it at complete random even when it's obviously not going to work.
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>>149379492
Whaling on them in fun though, I don't see what's wrong.
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>>149379558
He just can't hold the finger from pressing that soft and warm L2
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>>149379310
He was doing decently, got some good clutch moves in but he was too focused on having fun rather than trying to win and probably smoked large quantities of marijuana before he participated in the tournament to calm his nerves, since he said he has anxiety issues in live sessions.

He played extremely aggressively and it almost paid off but in the end it is what did him in, for he Onikiri and Ubudachi's himself into the way of an Lestoc Turtlepoke while wearing a bloodring for a whopping 218 damage.

Poor dude.
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>>149379310
From what I saw, he did alright the first match but made a mistake and tried to trade at no HP. He got the other guy down pretty low, but not enough to even think about trading.

Second fight he got BTFO.

I can't wait for all the idiots to copy the other guy's shield strat later on so I can shit on them with guard breaks for free wins.
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>>149379525
I agree. I usually just r1 spam them at this point.

>>149378628
I think I undersell my greatness, actually.
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>>149379558
That's the best way to use it, though.
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>>149379525
>mfw my Claymore stun locks them and kills them in 3 hits
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>>149379764
Fuck off retard.
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>>149379686
You cannot guard break a RoF+2 + 40 End +5'd Black Knight Shield. Its stability is too high and your stamina damage is too low, even with a Hollowslayer Greatsword stance R1 and Knight Slayers' ring.

I've tried.
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>>149379221
They're too trivial for their own sake. You can just run at the glowing one and spam attacks and it will be over in less than one minute. Even on my SL1 run.

If you like just ramming some mobs in the face and seeing them fall over then yes, it's adequate. But I like it when bosses instill some tension in their fights and the Deacons provide none.
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>start a new character
>usually get to around wolnir
>rinse and repeat
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What do I do with "CInders of a Lord" from the Abyss WAtchers? I'm vaguely aware of the restoring the lords story, but what do I do with this item now I have it
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>>149379932
>Starting a new character in boring souls 3
why ?
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>>149379776
So you're a toad?
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>>149380001
Figure it out you retard
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>>149380001
place it on the throne
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>>149380001
"The lords have left their thrones, and must be delivered to them"
You have a lord, now deliver them to their throne
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>>149378565
Yeah, but he's a spooky skellington now.
Maybe he's lost a lot of that power.

Although, both the fights preceding him and that are after him are both way harder.

Speaking of Oceiros, I just noticed today while watching a Let's Play :
>Oceiros isn't walking clutching his chest like he's feeble
>he's walking as if he's cradling a baby that isn't there

I heard rumors that when he goes into rage mode, he was supposed to smash Ocelotte into red jelly and that was cut because of censor issues. I don't know if that would've been disgustingly edgy or brilliant if they had done that. Instead the whole thing leaves you kinda confused, since Oceiros is clearly mad, but you hear the baby cries of Ocelotte.
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>>149380069
A frog. A smug one, to be exact
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can covenant tokens be traded? if yes i offer slabs for watchdogs and dorkmoons tokens.
Fuck farming those 2
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>>149379828
The average Pontiff's shitter won't put that much effort and Titanite into upgrading their shields and going to NG+ for the rings. They probably won't even look up his exact build and will just grab a BKS and whatever spear they think looks best.
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>>149380429
No
Your waifu a shit
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>>149380429
>can covenant tokens be traded?
No.
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Why is DaS1's PVP so fucking bad and unbalanced?
>>
>post-pontiff
>be a pyro
>get summoned to a FC
>get to duel some halberd dude
>bow
>host uses Vow of Silence
>look at the host
>use the Welcome emoji
>wait the silence out
>continue
>he keeps using it
>run up to him
>fuck his shit up
What the fuck
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>>149380506
>Your waifu a shit
not my waifu, i have none
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>>149380529
All Souls PVP is bad and imbalanced.
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>dudley successfully dodging to regen health
hahahahaha
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How active is DaS2 on PS4?
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>>149380556

Spells are for fags, anon.
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Can literally anyone but Mongbat help me in Irythil on ps4? I'm level 47.
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>>149380743
Sorry for not using Gotthards :^)
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>>149380697
>he doesn't have a waifu
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>fight is now just a guy one hit from death rolling non stop while regening

i-frames were a mistake
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HIGH TIER PEE VEE PEE
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>>149380718
DaS is just Havel/Giant moms and dads.
I've invaded 8 times and it was the same 4 guys over and over again.
>>
>Get to low health
>Start doing literally nothing but running around to regen health
>It works
THIS FUCKING GAME! THIS FUCKING TOURNAMENT!
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>Flees for 5 minutes
>Lucky backstab
>*fagbow*
L M A O
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>>149380871
>he actually came back and won
hahahahahahaha
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>>149380529
>bad

It has a lot of neat tricks to learn, I guess that's just not your thing.
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>pretty much determined to lose
>guy just rolls forever and never attacking and abusing regen
>wins through lucky backstab
holy fuck
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>>149380857
how is not having a waifu edgy?
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>>149381119
HIGH LEVEL
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>>149381065
>stacking armor
>mother's mask
>R1

THE TRICKS
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Is that tournament best of 3?
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>>149377068
fuck you anon

I trusted you
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>>149381039
Well no shit, the game's almost six years old now.
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>>149381039
Good players tend to like optimised builds. Havelmom is optimised very well. These players would have pushed your shit in even with zero poise builds.
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>>149381180
bo5 for finals and bo7 for gf
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>caring about souls pvp

what
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>>149381242
>bo7 for this fucking turtle shit fest
jesus christ
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Literally everyone I summon in Irythill is even worse at this game than I am! Why are PlayStation players so fucking shit? I wanna go back to PC fuck!
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>>149381039
Because it's dead.
Only not really, but because of the dogshit matchmaking netcode you won't see many people.
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>>149381217
pffft
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Is an lightning infused dragonslayer axe any good at 60 faith and do I use the base stats for the axe?
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>>149381217
Sure, it is hard as fuck to level up and follow a guide.
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>>149381289
Ayy lmao.
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rofl gadelong was so tilted after that last fight
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>>149377068
KATANA SPRINT + R1 FAGS BTFOOOO
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How do I CE to kill someone's boss? I keep invading this one 99 in all stats fucker in Irythill and just want to stop him from showing up
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>>149381345
For the axe you want it to be raw with minimum stats, and use SLB on it.

It gains much more damage per point of faith from SLB than from lightning infusion.
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>>149381432
Who wouldn't really? I've got tilted for way less. A regen lagstab comeback into a >BOW would make me literally quit the game for the day
>>
>tfw no souls bf (best friend)
>>
>lmao 6 billion health
Next you're gonna tell me there was some trick to making the Yhorm fight faster other than hitting his arms.
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>>149381483
OK thanks anon
>>
brexit sword about to get exposed for the second time
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>>149380529
>want to do a cosplay run on Lautrec
>low level, like 63
>invade as a forest hunter
>135lvl enemies
>always on co-op
>havel moms, nodachi child masked little shits etc
>give up

Boy is this game fun.
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>>149381579
If you hit his right arm (the one holding the weapon) or his head, you can trigger a riposte that does ~4k damage. The two weakpoints count damage separately, so you can potentially trigger two ripostes in rapid succession by hitting both.

Avoid hitting his left (empty) hand as you can't trigger a riposte from attacking it.

Or you could just use Stormruler
>>
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=de9M6thiLyU

>nearly 1k hours
>estoc turtle
jesus christ
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>tfw no souls gf
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Reminder that PvP in Dark Souls 3, no matter where you go (including /dsg/ """"fcs"""") are fucked and will never be repaired.
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>>149381579
what weapon are you using?
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>>149381719
stfu ephant I fought that guy and pushed his shit in with card captors
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>game with instant invulnerability and human reactable attacks and no time limit and no corner pressure
>allow regen items
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>>149381579
Seigmawhatsit can solo the fight.
The real trick is to use a weapon suited to slaying giants, I wonder if you could find one in the area.
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>>149381827
>used the one weapon that can actually deal with shields at 40 endurance + rof2
nice dude
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>>149381646
At least you didn't do a Leeroy cosplay
>lmao SL120 minimum
>1 poise from Claymore breakpoint :^)
absolutely horrible
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>>149381882
not my fault you're trying to be a hipster
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>>149381841
>implying the HP regen ring and shield are even remotely good even if paired
>>
>tries to cheese with onidachi and gets exposed yet again
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>>149381886
FUCK YES
I just invaded and it was 2 people cosplayed as Solaire and Havel, and fucking killed both with the you spin me right round shovel parry baby.

I can finally quit this game.
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>>149382080
the guy in the tourney regened like 600 hp in 2 minutes because of the regen and baby pandering rolls
>>
>fire up DS1 again
>remember how unoptimized it is
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>>149382234
>ds1 is good but unoptimized
>ds3 is garbage and also unoptimized

>ds2 you can play at buttery smooth 60 fps with no drops ever and is good
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>>149382234
>fire up DS1 again
>NOT
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>>149381850
Didn't even know onion man would be there. He was rip a long time ago by Pate I'm pretty sure. Not sure at what point I would've met up with him again after defeating the demon.

Pretty sure half my NPCs are dead. The saint is long gone haven't heard from her in like 20 hours. Maybe the dark miracles gave her nightmares or maybe that suspicious as fuck "look I'm obviously a bad guy" hanging around the big throne got her. I killed him just to be sure. Greyrat the mightyu fuck said he'd go to Irithyll and I said yes so he's probably dead as fuck. I don't even know how he'd get past the wall without a doll.

Now the Fire Keeper is saying something weird about the midget king so next thing I know she's probably down the bell tower suicide well with the rest of them.

Fuck you Pate you're somehow behind this all I bet.
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>>149369130
>there's no depth to the game in the slighest, just whoever times there lag infused, huge hitbox weapons the best.
Are we still pretending PvP was ever anything but that? It's been 6 years. Give up already.
>>
Any recommendations on what melee stats are more viable/more fun for a faith build? I'd like to go faith heavy so I'd rather not dump a lot into quality, although sunlight straight sword looks fun.
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>>149382356
>>ds1 is good
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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>level up past 100
>sudently everyone is using ccs/pole/lestoc
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>>149382356
>fire up DS2
>remember it's a puddle of boiling golem jizz
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>>149382497
Wait, wasn't Das2 the black sheep of the family?
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>>149382356
>ds2 you can play at buttery smooth 60 fps with no drops ever and is good
>and is good
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i like dark souls 3 i think it's pretty fun
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>>149382228
ha I knew this would happen
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>>149382681
>>149382664
LE EPIC LE HATE ON LE DARK SOULS 2 HAHA *gargles up shit souls 3*
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>>149382435
>Pate

Also, Irina is down by Gundyr's bonfire if you corrupt her, I believe. If you didn't, she becomes a firekeeper.
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>>149382485
>more viable/more fun
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Carthus sword is the most balnaced weapon in the game
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>>149382485
please name which game you are talking about
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>>149382957
:^)
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>every ps4 player is a ridiculous faced meme name blacksword/fallen knight who's fucking terrible at video games
Why did I buy a console? I'm so fucking retarded.
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>>149382957
Same with Estoc, they're perfectly balanced, it's all the other weapons that need to catch up.
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>>149382772
>you aren't allowed to have a different opinion than me
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>>149383003
Sorry, dark souls 3
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>>149382772
>If you're not a DaS2 drone you HAVE to love DaS3!

Meanwhile:
>soul memory
>no full eye orbs
>invaders can't heal
>hitboxes
>unresponsive controls
>sluggish movement
>DaS2 fastroll (30 frames) is closer to DaS1 midroll (32 frames) than fastroll (24 frames)
>massive stamina drain from sprinting, rolling, and attacking
>literally spend 2/3 of the fights waiting for stamina to regenerate
>lock-on doesn't perform it's stated function of keeping you facing the target
>can't pivot
>no tracking on attacks
>can't combo R2->R1
>deadzones

DaS2 apologists cannot refute this.
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>fire up ds1
>invade
>no people trrying to backstab fish

Did it actually happen or was I just dreaming?
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>>149383065
I'm very glad that you can recognize your own mistakes, but do not be fooled, PC has CE niggers. The grass is always greener on the other side, or something like that.
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>delaying the tournament for some one-sided streamer friendly
epic
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>>149375659
Use seed then you tool
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>>149383291
>that webm
I forgot about these
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>>149383482
Didn't have any.
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>>149383291
That's some glorious shockwaves.
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>>149383291
>>149383547
The giants in DS2 were such bullshit. It's almost as if the developers intended that you just rush through the level since they don't even drop anything...which is even more shitterer
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any other Fire Keeper lovers in here?
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>>149383836
Post that image with the childbearing hip keeper'
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>>149383264
miracles are pure garbage but the lothric knight sword and astora greatsword put out respectable damage at near base dex and strength, 45 faith and lightning infusion
blessed is also awful but if you want to try and be cute you can try out a blessed weapon, blessed shield and sun princess ring
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>>149383291
>slower and more methodical movement = unresponsives controls and sluggish movement
>hating on ds2 balanced stamina consumption
meanwhile in dark souls 3 rolls are extremely generous on their i-frames and cost no stamina making them near impossible to catch, you can sprint for days and straight swords and curved swords can attack 10 times in a row while ultras are nigh useless
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>>149383904
sunlight spears shit all over people who don't know how to counter them
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>>149383821
>giants were bullshit
>literally slow as fuck enemies

Also
>not rushing through most levels in any dark souls game
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>Trying to be Healy McHelpful in DaS2
>The best spell for a healer require you to kill 500 players for the Blue Sentinels.

From Software are jerks.
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im doing a no death no bonfire run in DaS2, whats effective against those giant hippos?
the only think yet i have real problems with
except for fucking shrine of almana
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>Scott "wait for it" Jund
>Praise "how do I combo" the Sun
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>>149383902
this one senpai?
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>>149383736
If you actually knew anything about the lore you wouldn't post something so dumb. The lightning of ornstein (which smough absorbed) is faster than light, so you cannot see it.
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>>149384010
They're really weak to bleed and if you can get behind them their ai gets stuck in a sitloop
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>>149384127
made me chuckle
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>>149384071
Oh yeah motherfucker. Damn I need to fap now.
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>>149383990
yeah, forgot about those, the other two lightning spears are so bad even in pve that they left me with a fairly bitter impression
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>>149383904
Ok thank you for the advice.

Side note, are weapons like mornes great hammer any good now that they've gotten a boost with faith scaling? Id like to do are/fai because I've never done that before.
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>>149384010
Giant hippos?

>>149384009
You can get it by going to NG++, and it's not the best healing spell for PvE, in my opinion.
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>>149383978
>hating on ds2 balanced stamina consumption
it's completely ridiculous. Maybe it's good for you pvp fags, but in pve it's just annoying to play
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>>149383991
>rushing through a level in dark souls
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>>149384273
awww poor babby can't mash away on r1 effortlessly :'(
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>>149383902
I'm a Karlafag, but I'll hook you up broski
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did europeans play in the tournament?
>>
Care to post the stream guise? I can't find it.
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>>149384261
God damnit, str/fai
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>>149384295
>implying I'm going to kill all the enemies every time
>implying some levels are worth of my time
>>
Is black crystal the new fanmail?
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>>149383991
>literally slow as fuck enemies
k
>hitboxes the size of amsterdam
>shockboxes that are even bigger which don't deal damage but slow you down into slug-tier mode
>deal insane amounts of damage
>usually come in pairs
>pyro giants are terminators who use heat seeking missles
>long as fuck knock down animations
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>>149384341
an average man can swing a longsword before tiring more than the your character in DaSII. It's just dumb, and it clearly didn't make the pve any better considering both DeS and DaS had better pve.
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>>149384427
Are you braindead?
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>>149383978
>slower and more methodical movement = unresponsives controls and sluggish movement
Yes. You can call it "methodical" if you want, but it takes longer to get your character to do what you want it to do. That's the definition of "unresponsive" movement.

>hating on ds2 balanced stamina consumption
It's "balanced" in a way that causes the majority of the fights to be people walking around waiting for stamina to recover. The balance issue with DaS3's stamina isn't the speed that it restores, but the fact that certain actions have tiny stamina costs (i.e. rolling) while others are massive (swinging any ultra weapon).

Making everything cost a ton of stamina just slows down and simplifies the gameplay.
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>>149384436
>tries to defend Dark Soul 2's shitty level design by saying you should just run through them
>then says that they're not worth spending time on
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>>149384505
I have literally never been hit by one except in the fight at Black Gulch. What the fuck? Do you have trouble with old knights too?
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>>149384415
Yeah, Lakanus and Broken Sword. They couldn't lag their way to victory.
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>>149384502
>you didn't beat me so it's not a loss ;)))
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>>149384342
karla is a good waifu aswell!
If it werent for Fire Keeper stealing my heart away, i wouldve gone with Karla!
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>>149384535
Oh shit, just found it, yeah I am.
>>
Is there a PvE Tier List for Demon's Souls?

I'm making a hybrid character and I'm not too sure which weapon should I focus on getting.
Been using the Crescent Falchion for quit a while now.
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>>149384620
I was talking about Souls games in general famiglia
Only a few levels are actually nice to play through more than once
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>>149383291

That's fucked up.
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Oh look baobao is using an UGS at GF
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>>149384754
>is there a PvE tier list for Demon's Souls
pick a weapon you like the look or feel of and fucking hit shit nigger
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>>149384754
For pve most things can suffice. Crescent melts early game, large sword of moonlight is amazing in pve in general, since shielded enemies don't understand it's gimic. Dragon bone smasher + curse weapon is godly for both pvp and pve.
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>>149384808
Just the AGS rolling attack though
>>
>>149384754
firestorm SSS tier
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>>149384808
>astora greatsword
>abusing rolling r1
yea nice usage of an ultra
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>>149382435
>I don't even know how he'd get past the wall without a doll.
He probably climbed down the cliff. Fun fact is that you can some of the playable area of Irithyll before you even light the first bonfire and can shoot at the spider enemies. The level design in Irithyll is GOAT.
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>>149384502

>washing pole

He should have BC'd at the start.
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>>149384786
>Souls games in general
>moving the goalposts
DaS2 is terrible. Everything about it. You can feel free to deposit your dignity in my P.O box and stop posting any time.
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>>149384893
>>149384916
>it only counts if he's using fume's R2 one handed
you're both retarded

>>149384951
Black crystal more, crybaby.
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>>149385060
point is he is only using the weapon and the one attack that is bugged because it
- has hyper armor and cannot be staggered out of the attack
- cannot be parried
- deals thrust damage for some reason
- deals as much damage as an r2
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>>149384212
heres my waifus booty ;)
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>>149385042
That's your opinion senpai
DaS2 is the best game in the series for me because the pvp isn't horrendous
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>>149385175
DeS has best pvp tho
>>
>>149384631
>admitting that you don't care enough about your "favourite" game to fully explore the memory of the giants
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>>149382663
Is this true?

I just finished 'PVE'. As in full character slots maxed with everything obtainable on all chars.
The catch. all of them are still SL80 as I was unsure how high to go initially at release.

Now, my SL80 PvP backup file is done.
How high do I level up now? 95~?
To be fair, most things can be played at SL80 just a few builds would required an extra 15 levels at most.
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>>149385165
So what? It's a viable ugs and he's using it in a tournament full of card captors and poles.
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>>149385175
Say that to me after you unequip your powerstanced Warped Sword, your hexes and spices, and your Haveljester's.
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>>149385165

It's what an ultra weapons should be like.
>>
>Punched Raime to death
Man, I love the Vanquisher's Seal.

I want to punch Sir Alonne to death, too, but getting to him is a pain in the ass.
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>>149385428
stop posting this ugly cartoon man
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>>149385325
I've fully explored them all, what are you on about?

>>149385428
That's more variety than Giantdad and the two weapons in DS3 you guys complain about literally all the time.
>literally implying the meta isn't varied as fuck
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>>149385428
>mfw some fag comes at me with a powerstanced warped sword and chaos blade
>beat him the fuck out with my wrathful axe 7 times in a row because dead game
lmao
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>>149384509
Game balance is more important than realism, and it absolutely did make the PvE better, it discouraged panic rolling and reckless R1 spam and rewarded stamina management and good spacing, it required you actually think about what was the proper move to use and the time to attack which is why dasdrecks dislike it so much
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>>149384010
>whats effective against those giant hippos?
Poison.

>>149384754
>Is there a PvE Tier List for Demon's Souls?
Yeah.
Soul Ray > Everything.

>>149383978
Dark Souls 2 is objectively more strategic than Dark Souls 3, but it's so sluggish and a lot of the bosses are just straight up bad that I can't really usually play DaS2 for longer than 1-2 bonfires before I go play something else. In DaS3 I can go on for something like an hour or two without stopping unless I'm having a really bad time. Of course, I'm on my honeymoon with Dark Souls 3 right now and I'm already noticing some bad issues like the linearity and the trash NG+.
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>>149384865
Too bad the Moonlight Sword is just good for a FTH characters
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>>149385060
I mean, I use AGS and even I know that it's rolling attack doesn't count as "actually using an UGS"
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>my attacks bounce off of walls
>enemies can literally attack through walls without any consequences
>>
>>149385371
Sl80 imo is alright, but past 100 everything is a nightmare, 125's must be the real abyss
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>>149385428
>powerstanced scimitars
>viable

pick one
>>
NEW THREAD

>>149385659
>>149385659
>>149385659
>>
First time watching a DaS3 tournament.

Why is everybody running so much.
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>>149385675
Warped Sword works differently when you powerstance, it has amazing combos with katanas that do up to 1300 damage, dark souls 3 tier garbage
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>>149385719
Waiting for the other player to do something that you can punish is half count for the win. So staying out of range while you keep moving is the best way to do that.
We call it being reactive cunt. And some of the "best" pvp players in this game do basically that for the whole fight.
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>>149385775
yes, but it's also easy as fuck to parry
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