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KToS patch coming 26th July

R8 Info Swordsman: http://tos.nexon.com/community/dev/view.aspx?n4ArticleSN=38

Previous:>>149209342 (Cross-thread)


>Can I play the game now?
YES YOU CAN (Get it on steam)! R8 Soon!

TOS Info: http://pastebin.com/3YcrrJkd
This includes more detailed information, as well as tools, resources, patch notes and official links.

>What is Tree of Savior?
Tree of Savior is an action MMORPG with a lot of classes, cute hats and autism grinding.

>Add-ons:
https://github.com/Excrulon/Tree-of-Savior-Addon-Manager

>Cards List:
http://pastebin.com/PrCkZ21n

>English patch for kTOS
https://forum.treeofsavior.com/t/general-ktest-thread/124575/645

>Servers
- kTOS - Server : Vakarine (Upside down "A" in gookspeak)
- iTOS: Klaipeda (NA), Fedimian (EU), Telsiai (SEA)

>Official Translation Project - https://github.com/Treeofsavior/EnglishTranslation
Helping in the translation will speed up international server updates and remove unwanted machine-translated text. There are also rewards for contributors, further explained on the github page.

>/tosg/ Guilds info
There is no /tosg/ guild in Varena/Silute, if you want one, either wait for someone to make one or roll a templar.
If Guild is recruiting, please post in the thread.
>Klaipeda
Futureproof (Lolipan)
Clover (Karga)
Cake (DeliciousCake)
CuteNotLewd (Plasmagica)
FOE(Jinsae)
>Orsha
Kotatsu (Colyo)
>Fedimian
CoffeeHouse (Capyba)
>Telsiai
Comfy (Katzenberg)

Cookie Cutter Guide :
>Wizard and Archer still unedited, Discuss in thread before using
http://pastebin.com/aGk6Ku7c (embed)
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/Ohayou/ when?
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>>149292959
You have to make it, anon.
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ALIVE GAME
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>>149293216
I made the wrong backlink. Last thread was:
>>149242872
>>149242872
>>149242872
>>149242872
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xth for butts
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Guys, don't mess with Crimson or you'll get the war.
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Lolipan - http://steamcommunity.com/id/ppkoverlord
Beethoven - http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198046080390
Evergarden - http://steamcommunity.com/id/dentalflosh
Cattly - http://steamcommunity.com/id/Mariannya
Jinsae - http://steamcommunity.com/id/rjp_jinsae
Kureashion - http://steamcommunity.com/id/kureashion
Katz - http://steamcommunity.com/id/kadamode
Mirarara - http://steamcommunity.com/id/mirasama
Moonie_ - http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198052334338
Hiraku - http://steamcommunity.com/id/hirakuu
CNL - http://steamcommunity.com/groups/CuteNotLewd who really cares about them
Enjoy your weekend everyone! Ktos merge soon!
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>>149293595
I swear to god I read it as "this is Dragonfag" every time...
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>>149293595
We get it, man. They triggered you, you both had a little temper tantrum and now neither of you are making money selling roasts.

Get over it.
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Sword Pelt Hop2 Cors2 Fencer2?
or
Sword Pelt Hop3 Fencer?

*I know that finestra doesn't work with rapier
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>finally got a level 6 gem
>like fucking finally
>socket it
>can't help but feel I forgot something
>much later on I actually look at it and I forgot to roast the fucking thing
ooooOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOHHHHHHHHH
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>>149293826
Finestra doesn't work with rapiers
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How does Concentrate scales now in Korea?

Like the new blessing where the level matters too?
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how hard is it to level a cryo3chrono3 full CON solo without any funding? and by leveling I mean getting to rank 7

I can get a token but that's it
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>>149293826
You know that finestra doesn't work with rapiers right?
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>>149294212
i gave up around lv120
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>>149293736
>mfw music lied to me about EG's steam handle

Never trusting FP ever again.
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>>149294212
Soloing will be fine until around 165, when mobs start to have 20k+health.
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>>149293803
Alchejew spotted.
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>>149294328
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>my friends list

How do I make this stop?
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>>149294390
No, I'm just tired of seeing your drama every fucking day.

I've been dealing with the same shit as a pardoner. Channel crashes, people selling buffs at a loss, threats. You don't see me complaining about it every single day.
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>>149294078
>>149294279
So from what I've gathered, I hear finestra doesn't work with rapiers?
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>>149294118
The same formula as blessing, but with different multipliers to STR/DEX than what SPR/INT had.
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Is the game saved?
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>>149294484
Stop playing with casual bandwagoners
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>>149294514
Finestra doesn't actually work with rapiers
>>149293736
I want to kiss Cattly!
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>>149293736
>Cattly - http://steamcommunity.com/id/Mariannya
So was the ruse true all along? Is he really a girl pretending to be a boy that likes boys?
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>>149294514
Yeah, as far as we know, finestra doesn't work with rapiers, so there's no point in taking finestra when you have a rapier,
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>>149293826
you want highlander for crossguard and you want max swordie for concentrate buff
Best build to get ready for rank 8 for fencer is:
Sword1>high1>sword3>pelt1>fencer2
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>>149294328
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> R8
> Swordie3, whatever, Cor3, Memenobi
> Durandal + Manamana + Restrain Gem
> Stealth
> SURPRISE BUNSHIN PISTOLS

I don't care if you faggots keep saying "muh memenobi nerf", Watch me become KING OF PVP as I pump all kinds of faggots with manamana lead.

Just you wait, pistolnobi will be the new ultimate meme build.
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>>149294493
>2 days
>Drama still ongoing
>"I'M TIRED OF SEEING IT EVERYDAY"
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>>149294645
Cattle posted that a dozen times. That profile is/was no secret.
Where does it say its a chick?
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>tfw i'm a katzenberg fangirl(male) and I'm not even SEA

now that the ktos patch is finally here
someone please save us from this horror I'm begging you
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>>149294670
Looks like you didn't get the part where he already knows finestra doesn't work with rapiers
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>>149294732
>Murmillo has extra block against ranged attacks
>muh pistol
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>>149293736
None of these are surprising or hard to find.
Put a little more effort in detective-san.
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>>149294493
>Channel crashes
Just 2 days of that and only one day was really troublesome
>people selling buffs at a loss
You only "lose" if you sell under 600s
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>>149294732
bushin doesn't work with any skills outside specific skills and also doesn't work with off hand attacks

You still have stealth hook combo but you're not really gaining much from cor3 outside flag

Not that it matters since I bet you don't have the guts to try this build out
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>>149293736
>no cats
;-;
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>>149294732
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>>149295249
Uhm, what's going on in that picture?
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>>149294867

RANCE PLS

MAKE A TEMPLAR
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>>149295329
a dog having sex with a cat
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>>149294645
nah that's bullshit, i have cattly on my steam, he is a fancy dude who collect socks and beanie animals
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>>>149294836
Well if it's only been going on for two days, it sure feels a lot longer because you are always fucking whining about it.

Get over it, crybaby.
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>>149295329
Stealthfags getting BTFO'd
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>>149295371
Why me? I have no interest in leading another guild, I did that shit for 11 years. I work a full time job now and can't dedicate the amount of time a guild deserves any more. That's why I disbanded my last one.

Also I don't want to level a fucking swordsman past 280 FUCK that
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>>149295530
>he doesn't know swordsman will be the new meta
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>>149294732
>dis nigga thinks he's reaper
next thing you'll tell us is that you'll macro in "DIE DIE DIE" to your shots
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>>149295628
Not when r7 and r8 have to both be templar. Don't get me wrong, Lancer looks awesome, borderline overpowered based on the info we have right now, but my theoretical templar wouldn't be.
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>>149295628
>this is true because my Dad works at IMC
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>>149293803
>>149294493
>>149295418

>Triggered as fuck and throwing an enormous tanrum
>"I-It's the other guy being a crybaby!!"
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>>149295778
Get over it, crybaby.
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>>149294610
>>149294658

Ok, so I think that you can't use finestra with rapiers. BUT

Sword Pelt Hop2 Cors2 Fencer 2
- Goes well with venier and karacha DWA, due to high holy property damage per hit, with additional chance due to DWA
- Can spear lunge, attaque coile double hexen dropper, sept etoile, . Then spear lunge again, preperation (x2 next pierce skill) and use lvl 10 stabbing
- Can switch to shield spear stance to actually use finestra (btw finestra doesn't work with rapiers), for tanking

Sword Pelt Hop3 Fencer3
- Can spear lunge, attaque coile, sept etoiles, then spear lunge, preperation, lvl 15 stabbing
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>>149295778
>beating the dead horse
>being this triggered when called out
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What stats for catagoon with lancer in mind?

still 100 con rest dex?
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>>149295992
>Corsair
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>loading screens show characters with different eye colors
WHERE'S MINE KIM

YOU HACK
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>>149295992
I'd go hop2cor1fen2
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>>149295992
>recommending the use of DWA in any situation for any purpose ever
You might have wanted to add in the fact that you've never played a cors2.
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I know this is kind of a retarded question but does token premium time only count while you're online or is it real time?
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>/tosg/ discord:
https://discord.gg/peB2q
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>>149296013
Well, if seeing an alchejew have a temper tantrum because their faggotry is out in the open for all to see and pointing it out is "being triggered," then you just go on and keep saying it.

tl;dr: no, U mad
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>>149296190
2:1 dex:con is disinfo

you want 5:1:3 str:con:dex
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>>149296368
No DWA and Hexen? That's like the only reason to ever go Corsair though. I'm not really thinking about PvP so the hook/pull doesn't do much, and the pirate flag sucks balls at lvl 5
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>>149295992
Or you know you could put a single rank into highlander to do the same thing with crossguard buff and not have to waste so many ranks.
You're also significantly lacking in slash so enjoy being useless against 1/3 of enemies due to only having pierce and strike (sorta but not really) covered.
And no flannconde is not a substitute against real slash attacks.
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>>149296430
Real time.
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>>149296363
We'll get them tuesday with the big ktos patch!
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>>149295992
swordhighlander3corsairfencer3
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>>149296430
>real time
this
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>>149296459
Sounds like you're rusing me. Can anybody confirm?
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play the game
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4gY2wtmcADo
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>>149296595
>Spiderman and Yamame
This is some vintage ohayou.
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>>149296897
You want around almost full con or full dex as going halfsies with dex is garbage.
On the off chance you don't intend to pvp, you can go full str instead.

As a swordie, dex falls off waay to fast and is not every effective, you either go full dex or don't even touch it
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>mixed reviews on Steam

What don't people like about this game?
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>>149297098
>half a year without any real updates
hmmmm I wonder why people didn't like this game

I mean its nice they're finally updating things in 3 days time but alot of people have already left because they didn't bother giving any updates for ages.

Theres also framerate and lag issues due to horrible coding
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>>149297098
>Steam
>people
laughingsluts.webm
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>>149296461
feel free to go cor2 then
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>>149297080
I'd say "don't even touch it" is an exageration. If you do PvP with no DEX you ain't gonna hit shit.
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>>149296490
Isn't crossguard only useable by 2 handed swords though? And it's kind of a bitch to proc the pierce debuff since they have to hit you first.

>>149296429
I have a 280 corsair and I know that DWA sucks balls and drains stamina. I think it would be ok with Venier/Karacha though, that's a lot of free property damage
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>>149297464
Think about it this way.
You either spear lunge and than weapon swap meme
or
You crossguard and than weapon swap meme

Either way you're weapon swapping.
The crossguard debuff timer also scales with your str unlike spear lunge where a single weapon swap lag means its all over for you as you just missed a rotation.
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>>149297464
>I think it would be ok with Venier/Karacha though, that's a lot of free property damage
It wouldn't. It would be exactly like you know it is.
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>>149296449
No one even cares anymore and you're now mad someone took your dead horse to bury it.
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>>149297858
Wow you're mad.
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>>149298080
Says the crybaby who has to keep bringing up how the alchemist crew hurt his feefees. :'(
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>tfw when everyone gets to pick shiny new r8 classes you're stuck picking fencer 2 due to having gone shitnobi
ahhhhhhhhh
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>>149298307
>tfw everyone gets to pick shiny r8 classes and most were disappointed by the necro reveal but skeleton archers could not possibly have made me any happier

ahhhhhhhhhh kos
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I'm ok with Alchemist arguing each other like dumbasses. Cheap ass shit for the consumers while the game still beating.
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>>149298080
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>>149298307
reroll now you'll be in time for when r8 actually comes out
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>>149298307
>tfw I enjoy my +36 weapon while you suck diks
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>>149294670

barb is better, 330 extra attack and slash to cover piercing weakness (cloth armor). plus, 4 overheats of aoe stun is a godsend to tank
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>>149298360
kos?
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>>149298235
Keep being mad. = )
Maybe get some fellow jews to be mad for you, while you're at it.
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>>149298307

why not murm
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>>149298469
Well, some say Kosm.
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>>149297098
It's a combination of the users and developers both being idiots. A ton of negative reviews came from when it was in paid early access and BRs couldn't understand why they couldn't play for free, but there's also loads of gamebreaking bugs.
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is this going to be changed?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EbHFEykOCZk

or is it safe to roll a featherfoot and abuse this shit?
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>>149297785
True...
Is spear lunge and crossguard debuff the exact same? I want to get peltasta though, since the main point of this build is a demon lord tanker that's also a fencer.

Maybe something like
Sword Pelt Highlander3 Fencer3?
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>>149298647
Swell isnt supposed to work on players.
When used on medium it doubles and heals.
Enjoy your buggy game, sheep.
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>>149298776
>want pelt
might be just to go hoplite than since you're limited to two weapon sets and its too clunky to do otherwise
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Can anybody explain what makes Plague Doctor and Featherfoot good for pve? Plague Doctor seems like he could easily be replaced by dispellers and Featherfoot before c2 doesn't look good at all.
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>>149299004
>the lolipan featherfoot meme has progressed far enough that it's now catching on
STOP
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>>149299004
>easily replaced by dispellers
yeah because you can totally use dispellers in arena and spam dispellers against non-stop cc classes like catagoon right?
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>>149299004
PD is not good for PvE, it's "good" for PvP, but due to the same reason you gave, it's easily replaced.
FF, no idea, I thought that was a meme
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>>149299169
>>149299004
reminder featherfoot2 is shit and won't save lolipans terrible w3 thaum3 build.
not even sage can save it.
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What is the best PVP guild?
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>>149293216
Should probably link the english R8 swordsman info in the OP rather than the korean one now.
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>>149299271
FP
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>>149299271
comfy
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>>149299004
>plague doctor easily replaceable
t. someone whos never pvp at all
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>>149299204
Did you fucking read his post at all you retard?
>Can anybody explain what makes Plague Doctor and Featherfoot good for pve?
>Plague Doctor and Featherfoot good for pve?
>pve?
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>>149299271

There is no way of knowing right now because hardly any PvP has been going on. We'll find out over the next few weeks, especially as some people from ded guilds come back for the occasion.
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>>149299271
FutureProof at the moment, with Clover as a close second.

Comfy is great but they're on a nonfactor server.
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>>149299415
PD is godlike in arena and arena only
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So with the upcoming ktos patch, is it true that you can quest and card up to 270 now?
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Is this jewable?
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>>149299621
>nonfactor server
>said by the server with 1.5k during their peak out of the 14k players
oh the irony
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>>149299675
unlikely
new quests dont give that many cards
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rate build
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>>149299727
>caring about randoms
>acting like the server with a near-nonexistent /tosg/ population is relevant to /tosg/
oh the irony
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>>149299415
Oracle is better in arenas. Prophecy covers almost all the debuff that matters more efficiently than plague after the nerfs.
And in open world pvp dispellers are a thing so why even bother?
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>>149299692
4-5 mil at the very least
>>149299675
You can card up to 280
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>>149299824
I don't understand
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>>149298896
You can taunt with Rapier + Shield.
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How/Who do I contact to get information about joining Futureproof?
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>>149299831
>caring about randoms
which you know affect every aspect of gameplay from market to dungeons to otherwise
>acting like a server with a near non-existent /tosg/ population
I'm pretty sure theres a pretty heavy load of players from sea/aus/otherwise in /tosg/.
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>>149299824
Futureproof/10.

He will take Sage at R8 and will create 2 templeshooters guarded by both fiyabowls.
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>>149299945
Yes but you need another set to make use of rapier + dagger.
Your three sets would be
2 handed sword for buff
rapier + shield for tanking
rapier + dagger for damage (the +15% pierce is massive)
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>>149300081
>I'm pretty sure theres a pretty heavy load of players from sea/aus/otherwise in /tosg/.
Telsiai here. No, there isn't.
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>>149300046
You can contact Lolipantsu ingame, /w Lolipan
or you can send him a friend request here >>149293736
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>>149300081
>I'm pretty sure theres a pretty heavy load of players from sea/aus/otherwise in /tosg/.
That depends on the timezone anon, ask during sea hours and all the seamonkeys will tell you how they're all of tosg whilst ask during amerifat hours and they'll say the same
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>>149299869
>4-5 mil at the very least
How can I trust you?
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>>149300218
Is it true when Katz said when Comfy isn't in the top 3, he'll disband the guild?
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>>149300498
You cant. Hes shitposting, both things he wrote.
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>>149300498
it's like 1 mil, don't trust that retard
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Skills for this build?
https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#113448
and what would you take at R6 and R7?
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>>149293736
thanks for posting my profile, maybe someone nice will add me (´・ω・`)
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>>149299692
600k or 700k, but some dumb archers might buy it for 900k
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>>149300498
Look for other headgears in the market that also has AoE attack ratio. Start from there.
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>>149300796
>my profile gets added
>have 4 friend requests
I didn't know you guys cared that much
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>>149300896
fuck off mira
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>>149300713
https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#1134489f.354555.15243541.1a293a71.14253175.15243155.152545

This is what I'd take.
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>>149293736
>tfw not profile dropped
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quick

post your guild's name and your guild's theme song
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>>149293736
>Lolipan - http://steamcommunity.com/id/ppkoverlord

>ppk overlord
>ppk
>pe pe k
>k = cá sound in portuguese
>pepeca means vagina
>yfw lolipan is a br
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>>149301256
what's your steam cutie?
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>>149301313
F.O.E
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dB_PVPyn6n8
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So what armor should I wear in dungeons as I'm leveling up Cleric? Cloth or Plate or are the set bonuses they provide negligible? The only times I could think I being close to dying was to the 50 boss because of his stupid super large AoE. Is that a common boss mechanic and is it magic-based usually?
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>>149301356
not that easy.. Mr.Stalker
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>>149301313
cute
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YfQZ2ewXug4
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>>149301313
TW_Yorozuya
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4uHbNfZDxqA
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>>149301329
Fucking disgusting. BRs need to fuck off to SEA or something.
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>>149301456
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>lolipan made his profile private
another one bites the dust...
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>>149301313
KameHouse

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GHnfX1RmZX8
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>>149301329
You forgot to mention his name is Pedro
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>>149300046
Whisper Lolipan. I'll get back to you, as soon as my daily struggle against internet instability ends.

>>149301313
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IrJAwCBbnuc
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>>149301205
>Not taking corsair 2
It's not like you want a better skill for spear lunge or anything
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>>149301205
>mordschlag 4/5
why
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>>149301313
Futureproof
https://youtu.be/DZcV1gp0vJs
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>>149301313
Crimson
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vHSNZK4Je-Y

>>149301786
You wish.
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>>149301313
Empire rip
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zQ14GzRvBvU
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>>149301313
Futureproof
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-dIh0oDEGqk
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>>149301786
>not this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LydK6FZTpPc&ab_channel=DjukiNew1957
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>>149301835
Punish isn't any better and getting more than 1 point in DPE isn't worth it. Only worthwhile Doppel C1 skills are Deeds and Cyclone anyways.
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>>149301424
You might as well just use cafrisun for autoattacks and toss some points into con for survival until high levels. The bosses will be easier to avoid until the cruel day you run into mission bosses scaled to higher level group members.
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>>149301313
Futureproof
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MPwVMv8cAO4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rXYMBEW3D9s
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>>149301836
>tfw this is unintentionally accurate and the only reason to join FP is to bro out with Rance and Cats
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>>149301313
Clover
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GSxPTlJ1nOA
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>PvP doesn't exist in /tosg/
>PvP is now the only good content in the game
>he didn't roll a PvP class
what is your excuse now?
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>>149301313
Aydiv
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tJzEscb4Pcw
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>>149301313
cute
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YYP2qLsC3x4
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>>149302424
I fell for the "devs are going to balance this crap" meme. And 200 levels in no less.
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>>149300214
You can just tank with the dagger, since you can swashbuckle with dagger. With high dex and enough con you'll be fine, no need to block
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>>149301836
Based taste. I'll play https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P6gHrlMS938 on repeat through our first Guild Battle for you first one that I can make with that dumb ass schedule, anyway
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What would be the class with most use in PvP? Murmillo or Lancer?
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>>149302828

Lancer.
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>>149302828
Murmillo stands to be seen. Their skills seem good but we'll really need to see them in practice to tell.

Lancer's skills are godlike for PVP in premise alone and will definitely be stupid strong.
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>>149302424
Well, I can kinda PvP with hunter3.
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>>149302828
Lancer.
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Any fencer2 here? How long does the preparation "buff" last after parrying?
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Where should I grind at 75? I don't want to use cards yet.
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>>149301313

FOE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OUd2Kvl6CUs
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>>149302828
Murmillo for small scale, Lancer for big scale.
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It's so stupid how you stand on top of your pet when you block.
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>>149302991
I'm interested in this too.
Also, does the preperation buff not activate unless you parry something? Or will just activing preperation and cancelling it give you the b uff
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>>149303057
>Where should I grind at 75?
You shouldn't. Just use your cards to make sure you are in the +/-5 level range and do your quests. Exp requirements ramp up really fast and your precious cards will become pretty much worthless.
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>>149303209
And get frozen, and during certain swapped weapon animations, and during tons of other shit. T-posing on top of your pet is the dumbest fucking shit, at least blocking doesn't look THAT bad.
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The person who wanted an invite, whisper me now. I am back online.

>Rance's theme isn't My Glorious Days

Rebirth The Edge would've been fine too, I guess. >>149301836 is one of the worst songs in the game.
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>>149303505
No, it looks absolutely horrible. It's what's from keeping me from going Sword3>Pelt>Cata3.
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>>149303683
how many free spots you have in the guild i'd like to join too
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>tfw Fencer looks neat
>But I also want to go full 2h
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>>149303683
Wholeheartedly disagree. Both the Sengoku World tracks are fantastic. I don't shut down my PC because I'm not a Mongolian nomad like you so I often had Rance open in the background for days on end just listening to those tracks.

Rebirth The Edge is fantastic too, though.
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>>149301313
Futureproof
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=SyyOahYXhUQ
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>>149302991
>>149303385

Preparation is a channeling spell that gives you block chance while you hold it. Duration is 15 seconds.

After the skill ends, you get a special buff that lasts 15 seconds, any piercing attack that you do will cause double damage, it doubles everything, attack, elemental damage and critical attack, attributes and etc. You have only one charge from the buff, so even an autoatk will cancel it, so, you use it to double Sept Etoiles damage or Lunge if needed.

If you have no interesting in a parry attemp, you can just "flash" the Preparation skill very fast just to buff your next attack/skill.
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>>149303773
I have up to 2 right now. First people to show up get the slot.

>>149303934
I don't like the Overworld themes in SR. The combat songs are perfect, though.
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>>149301313
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jC-5IU5Hpko

to be announced
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to maximize my pelt/rode damage should i just go flat str or get crit since lots of spells are single hit
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>>149301313
Guildless
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zT6OeBeWT8g
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Licorice...
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>>149302991
>>149303385

I'm interested to know so I can decide if I should go Fencer2 on R8. It's for my DOUBLE SLASH FENCER SHINOBI

My memenobi turned out fine even with crappy equipment, but I was disappointed to learn that most world bosses are either leather or plate.
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>>149304470
You literally just tap prep for it and it will work on the next hit.
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Atom In
Atom out
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>>149303683
>>149303934
>>149304205
The original Rough Edge was Rance's character theme in the games.
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>>149304470
>falling for the fencernobi meme
ebic
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>mfw there's an SP/HP recovery add-on and I missed this this whole time
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>>149293736
Any other steam accounts?

Koenig?
Trappe?
Rance?
Cats?
Karga?
Korasai?
Moesaki?
Bot?
Kinte?
Hat?
Triela?
threejane?
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>>149305047
How interesting. So it's basically just:

> Bunshin
> Coquille
> Prep
> Kunai

Let's hope they don't nerf shinobis too much.
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>>149293736
Wait, what is lolipan a BR?

ppk in hueland is a slang for pussy.

Hail the pussy overlord.
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>>149305090
There's tons of cool people in Futureproof so it would have been weird if that person picked Rance's personal theme.

In an unrelated note, I really want a Rance musuo. I'd be happy with it even on the Senran Kagura engine, to be honest. It probably wouldn't cost Alicesoft more than any of the mainline games did.

>>149304246
I really hope FP and your future guild maintain friendly rivalry and that we can use it to perpetuate fights. I had to work my ass off to get our wars to fight me last night and after 2v1ing me with characters 40 levels above me and still losing, they eventually just gave up and went to kill our AFKs in bees. The GVG in this game is in a horrible state right now.

>>149304352
This is probably a question better suited to our resident Mongolian rodelposter but as far as I know, he's very high DEX. It both provides crit rate and the ability to hit archers, and you kinda need both if you're PVP based. As for PVE, I don't think Rodelero is a very popular choice, so not sure.

>>149305671
My Steam profile is private as fuck. Cats' probably isn't. I'd add Koenig and Hat though.
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>>149293736
>>149293736
I feel people must be really bored to do this.
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>>149302140
I logged in today for like an hour. Coming back next week after patch hits.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=isxvXITTLLY
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>>149305742
read his post anon, its next hit and kunai is multi hit
I'm pretty sure only one kunai thrown gets the damage boost
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Help me convince Licorice to come back to ToS. Reply to this post.
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>>149306157
>make this person who doesn't want to play the game feel guilty enough to play the game
Uh, no.
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>>149306157
>help convince people to play this shit game

no

i did this for over 30 players and imc shat on it
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>>149243298

> mfw I forgot about Telsiai when I decided to make an alt

Shit, the event already started.

A varenafag here, still got room?
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>>149306157
Holy shit whats wrong with you man
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>>149301313
Clover
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i3YGdPMl-2w
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>>149303057
>>149303471

Don't fall for this faggot.
Get into a party at Constructor's Chapel. You might have some "New character mafia" fag parking a warlock on the spot, but if not, you can get some mad leveling that can get you over the EXP hump with ease, which is a clear shot to the lvl 90 dungeon, which is a clear shot to mercenary missions.
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>>149306940
Thanks man. You're really helping me out a lot.

I'm going with a build that nobody will accept into grind parties, so I need to save all the cards I can.
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>>149306157
>actually trying to convince people to come back to tos after succesfully quitting

literally why?
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>>149306157
Why are you pestering poor Licorice so much? Can't you read subtext? Feel the mood? She wants you to stop messaging her.

I want to play other, better games with Licorice.
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>>149306157

RANCE SAVE US
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>>149307305
Why do you keep posting this? I'm in no way related to the post you linked. I've never even met Licorice in my life.
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>>149307041
you dont 'need' to grind before 210 (or 230) tho.
and low lvl card do like nothing at that point.
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>>149306940
>Wasting your time at Constructor's Chapel

I swear some people are just mentally handicapped. If you are going to grind, you might as well do it in a place where the exp is actually good.
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>>149306767
He is in love.
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>>149307517

You don't get it either do you... :(

nothing to do with licorice
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>>149307041
Getting a grind party at DP or bees is piss easy even with a shit build. You'll only start having troubles finding parties at Alemeth/Evac and by that point your level 4 cards will be absolutely fucking worthless.

The amount of exp you can get from doing Constructor's Chapel is negligible in the long run. Just do your quests and get to 90, run dungeon a few times until you can get to Fedimian and start doing missions (100+).
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>>149306157

IIRC he rolled a doppel last time, show him doppel c3 skills, Pedro
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>>149305874
Koenig is cancer. Why the fuck would you subject yourself to his retardation?
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>>149307517
>>149308114
probably Lolfag samefaggoting, trying to make it look like everyone wants that person back.
almost sad, almost.
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>>149307524
Why do people feel like they have to save this?
Yes, that grind and saving cards is meaningless at the high levels, but that grind can make it easier to reach level thresholds for shit like dungeons and the like. Short term help vs long term.
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how easy is it to find alemeth parties will carry a chrono, also which level does mercenary mission start giving level 10 cards?
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>>149308573
>which level does mercenary mission start giving level 10 cards
never
they cap at 9
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Did imc nuke channels? Several are not connecting.
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>>149308537
>If you're unhappy with FutureProof you'll surely find happiness with dvine
Oh boy
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>>149308794
how horrifying, why would imc do this
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>>149308573
Every party wants a Chrono, even if they don't need it. Also, you don't ever get level 10 cards, daily quest cards cap at level 9.
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>mfw I just realized who Rance actually is
Oh god I feel stupid, he's gone by that name before.

>>149308573
Dude, people will shit themselves to get a chrono in their party.
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If we don't get databased on the kTOS merge I'm quitting and taking all of you with me.
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>>149308957
Fuck off retard.
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>>149308573
>how easy is it to find alemeth parties will carry a chrono
just shout you're a chrono and youll get 5 invites
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>>149308848
I assume they'll update it eventually, for now just collect them until lvl 9s give you shit exp.
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>>149308573
Just make the party yourself and they will tolerate anything. Alementh grinders have had their self worth drained so long by the truffles that once they let one of my friends alts afk in a barrel, totally stationary while we roamed the map and leached them.

They're cucks. They asked about him after like 2 hours but when I told them that was just a barrel they left it alone. This went on for nearly 10 hours of grinding.

Just be party leader and do the cucking.
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did they fix the party bug yet
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>>149309124
>They asked about him after like 2 hours but when I told them that was just a barrel they left it alone
I laughed at this more than I should.
Too much MGS.
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>>149309163
Should have been obvious to me after the nostalgia shit the other night.
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>>149307539
You know what else in that level range has as much EXP per kill? I'll tell you
1. Large-type mobs that you would never farm
2. Hallowventers (Both the ones one floor down and the ones at Ferratory Hill)
3. Tontulia
4. Some shit in Carlyle's Mausoleum

Ferratory Hallowventers and Tontulias MIGHT be able to compete if it weren't for the beacon gimmick, which allows a nonshit party to kill dozens in fucking seconds. But they DON'T have that.
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>>149309163
hi dvine
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>>149309594
You totally missed the point.
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Is it really happening? Is kTOS patch coming?

Will this even save this game?
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>>149309742
kToS patch has nothing special. It's just the PVP league and a bunch of costumes and hairstyles and that's it.
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>>149309706
>If you are going to grind, you might as well do it in a place where the exp is actually good.
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>>149309836
BUNNIE!
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>>149309742
Just look at the state of kToS.
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>>149309742
Yes! To both questions!
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>>149309836
I thought it had quests too?
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>>149306467
Yes.
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>>149298080
>I have a life. I don't waste it
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>>149305874
if i can help it then it won't be friendly. my dislike for lolipan has only grown since the fake ass kisser decided to message me only for the second time ever to join his garbage guild again. lolipan if you message you pos then you better not only make it to join your crap guild to be a prop and make things better for you.

>>149308537
>>149309163
don't hype something that's not happening
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>>149309836
>tons of character customization
>12 levels worth of exp cards from new quests
>class rebalancing
>nothing special
(You)?

What were you hoping for? An entirely new game? What the fuck.
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>>149310174
Oh, my bad. I thought from
>>149304246
you were saying you're just gonna make your own.

Mah bad. Posts are gone.
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fuck off with your shitty circlejerk jesus christ
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>imc nuking klaipeda channels
>relog
>30 min loading screens because imc
>die
>soul crystal sends unkown error message and wont trigger
>relog
>sent to buttfucking nowhere because lmao pseudo dungeon is kewl rite guise

yeah

nah

this game is fucking dead, you literally cannot fix the WORST management in existance with flashy new classes and an abhorrent 15x15 pvp in a game that barely manages to break the single digit fps when there are 3 players on the screen
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>>149309874
Yes, that's what I said. I never said you should grind in that level range.
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>>149310178
>What were you hoping for?
r8
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>>149310761
... How? R8 is clearly at least a month off, and that's being REALLY generous.

You deluded yourself into an impossible expectation, my friend. I wouldn't expect to see R8 for 2 months or more.
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>>149310560
>Dungeon gimmick gives you more exp from killing shit than you can possibly get anywhere else outside of instance dungeons
>You shouldn't use it

Also, your goalpost moving is sad.
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Was it autism?
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>>149310549
>i died and have a shit computer
Nice.
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>>149308893
the tripfag who avatar'd?
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>>149310926
I'm just saying that the r8 patch is the important one, not the ktos merger.
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>>149311256
Autism and bzzzzz
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Reminder shit tier bait requires at least 10 words in it to be eligible for a free reply.
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>>149311507
i care more about the shitload of balance than r8 desu
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>>149311476
No. I've never tripfagged or avatarfagged. Back in the Aika days I did not browse /v/ or /vg/ at all, in fact.
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>>149311575
Same would be nice if WE ACTUALLY GOT FUCKING BALANCE THOUGH.
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>>149311706
You don't think we'll get the balance changes now that they're both enabling and pushing (at least according to news announcements) the TBA?

Big balance changes related to that I can think of are Bloodletting nerf and Warlock damage/duration nerfs.

If we weren't going to get their nerfs in the merge, I don't know why they'd have given them our buffs in the last patch. Highlander has a cooldown on kToS right now. I'm pretty sure what they're doing is bringing our nerfs to kToS, then using that version - with our nerfs as well as theirs - to make both copies.
>>
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>>149311864
How has this fuck not been banned yet?
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>>149311864
>no necklace
Triggered.
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>>149311864
>Invite him
>see that
>kick
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>>149311864
>lvl.80 attribute
>Not wiz3?

This has to be a ruse
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>>149311864
I seriously hope the wizard police catch you and aren't nice about whatever they do.

Or whatever monster raped Koenig.
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>>149311864
The slow attrib isn't even that good ffs.
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>>149311964
what did he do?
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>>149311020
>goalpost moving
>implying
I literally said in my first post you shouldn't grind at 75; if you are going to grind do it at DP or Bees. If you still have any doubts about what I think should be done at that level range: >>149308212
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>>149311601
You missed out. It was a better place. Where we played better games.
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>>149312230
>>149311864
>>149312223
Probably Energy Bolt Lv80
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>>149311507
Without merging the repositories, we wouldn't see r8 until 2030.
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So, what am I supposed to do to find the event chest ?
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>>149301329
brs are truly the best
>>
On an unrelated note, I have one spot for bee leech in channel 6, if anyone wants it. I'm tabbing in and out of my remote session so just show up and ask in local or whisper and I'll invite you when I tab back in.
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Will oracles become the next big jew?
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>>149313528
i can't fucking read your shit
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>>149313528
>You are already joined.
HELLA fucking lewd
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>>149313164
I believe you just walk near /to it. If you check the quest log, it gives you a hint which should be sufficient enough
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So I checked Telsiai
> Petamion at 3m~ only, (6m in my server)
> Manamana at 3m only (6-7m in my server)
> Sissel recipe at 400k only (2-3m in my server)

What the hell? Why does everything cost twice as much in Varena??
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>>149314162
duping and ded server so no demand
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oh fug I was about to roll on Telsiai, but I just realized all the pvp shit has a tight schedule

does anyone have a converted time schedule from telsiai to murrika central? because if I can't be online when they do pvp I feel I'd be taking a slot for someone who can actually pvp at those times.
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>>149312476
You get 3.3m per hour at chapel, which is probably more than current state of bee and dp owned by the bee mafia.
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Male or female character for a PD I'm making to help my guild in GvG arena? On one hand the male costume actually looks really cool and I want it, but on the other hand I feel like I can't pass up the opportunity to laughinganimegirl my opponents to death with fem Bokor effigy giggle.
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What do I have to do to get into one of the afk bee mafia farms on my alt?
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>>149315047
you need 6 channels and a warlock to get 3.3m. there's now only 2 channels so you can get maybe 1.5m
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>>149315548
let them slapz your azz. and succ there weet dicks.
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>>149315702
you want that milk dont you
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I found an irl picture of Cattly
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>>149314284
>telsiai
>ded server
What am I reading? The prices are going down because they are being overfarmed. Especially when compared to varena where everything is overpriced cause it's the only completely new server launched on free release.
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>>149315884
lmao nerd
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>>149306157
stop treating him like some glorified kawaii cartoon character you want to cuddle with.

Je is john or something, he doesn't give a fuck about this game anymore, fucking give john a break he probably is playing a better game already.
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>main website event page still not loading properly
Jesus you think they would've checked the page after the updated the website.

>>149315487
Fem bokor effigy makes them giggle?
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>>149316403
>Fem bokor effigy makes them giggle?

well, you can say that. she should jiggle, but it's more like "pipipi"
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>doing party quests everyday since reaching 100
>still no noot noot
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>>149311864
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>>149316759
That fucking description spooks me every time.
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Bunny Boy when?
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>>149316025
You have no idea how supply and demand works, if there was high supply than you couldn't "over farm" as there will always be buyers.

The reason varena has everything so overpriced is because everything has a constant massive amount of demand

Its like you forgot about all the incidents of people making literal millions selling low level white gear in that monkey server
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>>149315884
>Cattly was a red panda all along
Holy shit, it all makes sense now
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>>149311476
Nah.
He led one of those "hardcore pvp" dork guilds that drifted from game to game and either shitstomped or got bored and moved on.
Course, I also joined said guild for a period of time, so I'm one of those dorks.
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I'm sorry Evergarden...
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>>149317569
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this looks so OP, what am I missing? why isn't everybody abusing it?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BP9ELvAwh5s
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Is it worth it to reroll harpea cube?
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>>149316403
>Fem bokor effigy makes them giggle?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vfMJTjlg6Kw
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So is the change to Cyclone duration a nerf? If I'm calculating jt correctly, current duration at LVL 5 is 3 seconds. After the changes, LVL 5 is 2.25 duration and LVL 8 is 3.15 seconds, closer to what we currently have at 5.
This fucking sucks for anyone who didnt go C2 Dopp, and makes maxing Cyclone sub optimal to the C3 and Attribute additions.
If my math is right of course.
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>>149317828
for pvp you mean?
Its worthless in pve since elememes kill faster than that
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Will my crush come back after ktos and r8 patch comes?

Please say yes.
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>>149318584
Yes and he will ask your hand in marriage 2 months later when the marriage system is added.
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>>149318584
Yes!
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>>149318584
no
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>>149317996
They don't want Doppel to be a spinning meme, all their new skills are better than Cycloshit.
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>>149318584
I'm coming back, my love
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When do you think they would release the info on r8 skills?
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>everyone being all lovey dovey with each other
>my special friend disappeared without warning and I'm left constantly worrying if she's okay

Great game, idiots...
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>>149318974
When they release the R8 patch notes one day before the R8 patch.
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>>149318891
Makes sense, at least I have EA reset pots. Poor Dragoon saps who took doppel only for Cyclone
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>>149315884
Lewd Cattly
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Do you guys save up money to reroll the 5F ET cubes? Or do you just open them normally?
Idk what to do with mine...
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>>149319316

to be fair wtf else do you take at r6, corsair?
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is cronomancer top tier in pvp? or just a haste slave?
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>>149319217
I want to give you a hug anon-kun.
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>>149319409
Yes. I went Sw>Hl3>Dopp. They should have maxed Cata
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>>149317993
>not the superior nippon giggle
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>>149319217
Cheer up, anon. They left because they thought they'd find more fun elsewhere, they're certainly okay.
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>>149319316
They're also getting DPE and DoV. It's not that bad, cyclone is just a bonus.
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>>149319602

>trading out DPE/deeds for corsair

how about no
sw1 pelt1 hop3 dopple drg2 best
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>>149319947
>Still taking pelt
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>>149320085
Why not?
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Need backup against Guilty Crown on Alemeth c4. They're 5.
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>>149320085
someones going to have to pelt in the party no matter how op the dps of new doppel 3 or dragoon is

Might as well cover as many bases as you can
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>>149320085

pelt remains mandatory just as cleric 2 remains mandatory

your optimism is inspiring, but naive at best
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>>149320265
>futureproof cant even get 5 people for pvp
uhmmmmm
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This will be meta on R8?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xEHdBTq1x4g
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>>149319465
It's top tier because of cryo utlity and being a buff slave
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>>149319947
corsair for hook is better than dop for pvp
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woodspirit is a fucking shitty boss
>apple grenades
>1 hit kill clap
>shitty forcefield move that knocks everyone away
>tanky as fuck shield he spams every 20 seconds
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Is it crazy to take Sword3>Pelt>Cata3>Lancer?

Swashbuckling and Guardian would be somehow helpful in PvP. I could leave the cc to Cryokinos by not taking 1 point in Corsair.
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Cleric 2 Krivis 3 Oracle 1 Plague Doctor 2

es good?
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>>149320542
no? that is fucking horrible dps
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>>149320542
No
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Do people avoid dungeon 160
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>>149319683
this fucker knows his shit
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K0Oqqy-xzwc
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>Get a nice grinding party going for 4~5 hours
>One guy has to leave
>Other guy leaves as well
>Everyone leaves
Why is this happening
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>>149320471
>cleric mandatory
>Being poor
>Being bad at dodging
Oh anon, I'm so sorry.
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>>149320542
New botting meta ,maybe
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>>149320824
yes
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>>149320790
Wait until cleric R8 reveal
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>>149317925
World boss cubes are okay, yes.
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>>149320672
>he dies to clap
sub-120 CON shitter detected
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>>149321362
>He has to tank it
Sub-200 DEX shitter detected.
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>>149321463
>he doesn't play a wizard
I'd drop my mic but this is an expensive headset.
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>>149321362
i face tank that with 17 total con

hehehehe
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Is 5 inches enough?
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>>149321362
>Needing 120 CON to survive clap
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>>149321516
>He plays a wizard
Absolutely haram.
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>>149321624
>he wears armor and jewelry in mercenary post
I bet you equip your weapon in PVP too.
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>>149320471
>Cleric 2
>Mandatory
hehehehe
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>>149320672
Learn how to fucking dodge.
I'll give you that arm sweep is too fast to predict properly. But the rest is so easy my underleveled alt (get hit for 2000+) can face tank it with ease.
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>pelt
>mandatory for anything but mass grinding
The only thing that needs aggro is bosses and Provoke exists as an attribute.
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>>149322232
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>>149322232
>she doesn't take pelt solely for peltbutt
>>
GIVE ME A COSTUME COLLECTOR ARCHER BUILD
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>>149322380
archer ranger wugu2 sapper2 cannoneer
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>>149322380
Archer/Ranger/Archer2/Scout/Rogue/Fweee/Muck or Cannon.

Perfectly viable with literally tons of critrate.
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>>149322380
archer2/ranger/scout/rogue/fwee/cannon
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>>149319217
>she's
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>>149322380
Archer2 QS1 Scout1 Rogue1 Falconer1 Cannoneer
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>>149322339
Sorry elememe, but you're not being handheld anymore.

>>149322367
>peltbutt
>when thighlander butt exists
>>
Once again, Comfy is recruiting.

I did say in my previous post we're on recruitment mode now due to recent events. While it's true we're aiming for the guild battle league, we also need new members for PvE contents so this is not a purely PvP recruitment drive.

We have a lot of slots, so don't worry about that.

No level requirements, we can powerlevel you, no class requirements, we'll take anyone as long as you're active.

If you have any inquiries, let me know.

>>149300621

Nah. We'll try our best but it's alright if we don't make it to the top 3. We can always be better and improve as a guild.

But if R8 somehow comes with class reset I'm tempted to use it on my Templar though. Not sure what that would do to the guild.
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Is sorc usable without linker?
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>>149322683
>>149322232
>what is aggro limit
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When's a good time to invest in a good bow? 120 or 175?
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>>149322683
>she doesn't take both thighlander and peltASSta
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>>149322732
>aggro limit somehow means no one but the sword is allowed to pull mobs
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>>149322691
what are your thoughts on full CON cryo3/kino3?
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>>149322841
No.
It means you can not pull more then x mobs without Swashbuckling.
Its easy to test at maps with a lot monsters.

Play the game.
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>>149322826
Save for manamana. You can manage to 280 easily with just white weapon.
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>>149322691
>mfw I'm a Varena player that would take up this offer but I play ToS to play with my friend who isn't very active
I asked my friend if they wanted to go to Telsiai, but they just can't commit to ToS as much as I do
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>>149322730
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>>149322984
What's the best bow to pair with a manamana? I'm aiming to be a fletcher3 for worldboss hunts.
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>>149323186
It's usable but rough. The summon doesn't handle targetting very well, link helps a lot in fixing this. It gets better at sorc2 when you can fix shit with manual control.

Let's look at it this way instead - what else were you trying to fit in that circle?
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>>149322917

Strong class to have in PvP/PvE but not completely invisible. By PvE I mean the Cryo 3 part.

>>149322993

We don't mind taking your friend in as well.
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>>149322969
I know how aggro works, better than your reading comprehension at that.
A party has up to 5 people, those people can all pull shit too.
Not a hard concept, I'm sure you've done missions, dungeons, and even grind parties without a pelt, so I know you know how it works.
This is not Tera. This is not XIV. This is not WoW. This isn't even Aika. A class with a mass mobbing ability is not required.
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>>149322730
>>149323186
post build
if you're a pvp cryo3sorc cheesy build i think its okay
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>went sword 3 cata 1
>can't use my skills because i don't have hoplite

Did I get memed on or will things get better at R7 when I pick Dragoon?
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>>149323186
You usually need JP/HK to make TS many targets as it can, and the combo helps that a lot with the horrible AI that we have.
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>>149322993
Wat? Surely if you both go you can still play together, even if that means having a dedicated character to play with him. It'd just mean you'd have other more active people to play with too
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>>149323267
>A class with a mass mobbing ability is not required.
Must explain why so many parties shout for pelt.
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>>149323352
>can't use my skills because i don't have hoplite
Explain.
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>>149323352
>He fell for the Catagoon meme

Get the attribute, dingus.
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>>149323267
Sure, send you elememe/cleric to mob instead of staying inside Diev statues circle of friendly buffs casting AoE spells where they don't die with 1~2 attacks..
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>>149322691
>class reset
thats never ever going to happen, it was outright confirmed that this will never happen, event or otherwise
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>>149323260
>>149323280
https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#21112662.3f7585.1a35557a.1a213141516a7185
Planning on picking sage in r8. It's the only thing I can think of for a dps sorc with the available classes.
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Is Pyro3 good? Why do people say that hell breath is bad? It looks like a cool skill.
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>>149323267
Nothing's really required, it's optimal though and when doing shit you want to be fast and efficient
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>>149323595
>Not taking linker and warlock
What is wrong with you?
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>>149323594
Obviously he meant reroll
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>>149323492
>>149323267
not required but can make it faster/easier
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>>149323776
>taking warlock when c2 shows the class is heavily dependent on spirits while sorc summons can't trigger invocation
ptgmm
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>>149322691
>>149323594
I guess you're stuck with us for a while, Katz.

Please don't leave us. I love Comfy.

Templar3 would have mass call, I promise you.
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>>149323265
Well I didn't expect it to be invincible just extremely annoying and solo viable for farming, I'm uncertain on how bad the subzero shield nerfs hit this build.

Is there a build you actually consider invincible?
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>>149323395
That seems like a good alternative, I think I'll consult Katz about entrance into the guild
>>149323265
I'll contact you in-game once I've asked them if they want to
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>>149323579
Oh, it can only be used with 2h weapons?

That's kinda shitty until R7.
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>>149323209
Isbality, and a white xbow. Isbality for demon type, white for everything else.

Just use bow for flying bosses.
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>>149323923
>Thinking fireballs is better than JP
>Thinking fireballs is better than having DT
kysmm
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>>149323492
People are lazy and are shit at helping mob.

>>149323586
>elememe
Clerics can easily mob without moving too far, archers can easily mob, non ele wizards can help mob, even non-pelt swords can still mob.
As it is, if this merge comes properly, grinding won't even be needed again due to having more quests and cards available.

>>149323638
>>149323801
And people who feel their class has a right to do nothing but press a couple buttons while the rest of the plebeians do all the real work.
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>>149323605
Pyro3 Sage with Kino will be the new meta.

Heard it here first.

Drop 6 fireballs, double it.
12 Fireballs into Expand Aoe radius skill
INTO Psychic pressure.
Watch as nothing ever survives.
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What did he mean by this?
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>Ask on a forum about a good sapper build
>They say go Ranger1>Sapper3>Rogue1
>Capture+ Max Spike Shooter is the new meme in Ktos they say
>Knew they're trolling and must be from /vg/
>Make an Archer>Quarrel Shooter>Sapper instead

And I'm pleasantly surprised.
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>>149324201

he thinks druid is good dps
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>>149324201
Probably a DievDruid
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>>149324201
I assume he's a monk.
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>>149324052
Level 5 JP becomes lackluster in late game when the hit count expires before the monsters with 100k+ hp die. Also sage will be able to clone fireballs and expand pyro aoes. Warlock is a dead end for wiz3link1sorc because the only thing you'll get out of it is DT and pole unless you enjoy timing magic missile to trigger invocation, and so the r8 class choice will pretty much be wasted unless you really love your DT.
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>>149324054
>people who feel their class has a right to do nothing but press a couple buttons while the rest of the plebeians do all the real work
>trying to argue about "fairness" in class roles in an already unbalanced mmo
really rance, you saying pelt isnt needed is like saying dps isnt needed because everyone can contribute small damage. retarded af dont blame you though you dont even have a high level character so youre still pretty ignorant
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>>149324320
>his necromancer boyfriend can't kill all the monsters before he runs out of JP
what the FUCK????
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>>149324234
>sapper
>good at anything but broom trap for grind party
>even then broom trap is still mediocre if mobs aren't plate
>need rogue or wugu for best potential
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>>149324367
That's not me, dude. Sorry. I think pelt is essential, and I think block is fantastic in PVP in many situations.

I also like chronomancer a lot and wouldn't talk shit about them. I kinda wish my cow rolled one to be honest.

You're right though. I really need to get out of the pre-250 hole, this is embarrassing.
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>>149323958

Personally, I don't think anything's invincible as long as you know how to fight. How strong or weak the build is depends on how many counters it has. Closest thing to being invincible to me would be PD. Other people might say otherwise.

>>149323926

>mfw seeing Templar 2

I might as well reroll a new char to be Doppel 3.
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>>149324367
>Namedropping and completely dropping the argument because you think you figured out who I am. You haven't.
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>>149324405
>not being a dps qt and having a support gf
smhtbhfam
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>>149324320
I bet you don't even have a sorc without linker. Unless they fix fireballs stacking, lower fire pillar cd and buff hell breath, pyro will always be at the bottom of the barrel. Fuck off with your theory crafting and play the game.
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>>149324529
>able to give your party a gazzilion buffs
>able to give your guild tons of health
good cuck, do you want a headpat you good little cuck?
>>
I like how the ToS homepage splash hasn't been loading for like the last day.
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>>149324574
You had no argument to begin with. You're obviously a low level shitter if you think Pelt doesn't provide anything for the party.
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>>149324792

>mfw I activate DPE (attribute off)+gung ho+deeds for everyone, especially the mages
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>>149324673
I have a linker, which is why I said what I did while asking if sorc is usable without linker. Sage also seems to be designed for the sole purpose of boosting pyro, and enchanter is out of the question for a dps build. Meanwhile warlock is a poor choice with r8 out now that it's clear the class relies on evil spirits which will have to mostly be made through invocation, and picking sage without pyro seems worthless unless it can clone sorc summon. Fuck off with your anti-theory crafting and play the game.
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>>149324792
>headpatting katz
C-Can I join too?
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>>149324865
>You're obviously a low level shitter if you think Pelt doesn't provide anything for the party.
Now you've just utterly twisted what I said.
I said pelt wasn't required, not that it doesn't provide anything.
What it provides can just be done by the whole party, that's all.
My whole 'argument' was that pelt isn't vital in any sort of content.
Of course, you turned to calling out random names instead of trying to refute anything, so I guess I was expecting too much.
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>>149325238
Well, everyone in the party can do damage so I guess we don't need elememes either.
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>>149324004
Thank you. Should I still buy an arde dagger? People keep saying I should get one.
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>>149293736
>Not profiled dropped
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>>149324367
>namedrop
any time rance talks about anything but necro or his archer circles he says like 30 times per post "ive never played this class so i could be wrong"

hes one of the easiest posters to identify lmao
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>>149325359
Everyone should have at least one arde. It will make your life much easier, no joke.
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>>149322691
hey Kada, have you seen this video?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=THuWwVwW5WQ

seems Kabalist is the gvg meta
>>
how hard is it to find a cute boy (girl) to be mine?
>>
People do the 217 dungeon? or they just skip it?
>>
I wanna try an MMO like this for a little while, should I play this or that Hero Warz game I keep seeing ads for?
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>>149325613
low exp. slow que.
some ppl rush it somehow.

i skip it
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>>149325613
Horrible for exp, I regret not milking the 190 one more.
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>>149325313
You're right, you don't.
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>>149325702
>>149325797
Oh my
then I guess I'll milk the 190 DG to 207-210
And save the lvl9 and lvl10 cards to use them when ready for R7
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>>149325613
Dungeons after lvl 190 aren't worth it exp wise so people usually rush them.
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>>149325412
I identify you as the reddit doom poster about r8 class being OP from a few days ago

Did I get it right?
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>>149325989
no reddit for me m80 sorry
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>>149325938
>then I guess I'll milk the 190 DG to 207-210
i usually do until 205.
with my current alt until 207. really low after that.

at 205/7
card to 211 and grind
or card to R7+
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how do you autopot?
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>>149326241
very carefully bro
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>>149326241
ask to borrow dvines script hes very confident he wont be banned even without any effort to hide it at all
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>people sell glass bracelet for 400k+
>when the recipes and mats aren't even hard to find
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>>149326241
You don't wanna know
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>>149326369
>glass bracelets recipe are like 20k
>star bracelet recipe have a high drop rate
i crafted like 6 for myself already
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Are ToS server with problems? Since today morning I can't play more than 10 minutes without DCing, and I can only relog by restarting the client, if I try to relog without restarting I get DC while entering the map server.

My internet is fine with everything else, so I think it might be something related with them, maybe a new anti-bot feature? You can only play 4hours per day or something.
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>>149326303
>>149326368
>>149326428
help me out here, I made a sorc and want to grind while fapping

plss...
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>>149326498
Can't advise on anything else, but I haven't had any disconnect problems. I've been semi-AFK at bees since I woke up and haven't been disconnected, which is about 8.5 hours now.
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>>149326581
Just fap faster, the load screens are long enough.
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>>149326581
Fuck you.
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>>149326738
dont be a jew, help me out here
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>>149326581
It's an illegal addon, famalam. That's why we are telling you to stay away from it.
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>>149326903
I've seen one guy here for a whole week now.

I'm sure using it for a day or two wont do anything.
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>>149324673
What's wrong with fireballs stacking?
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>>149327002
You can have 8 balls, but no matter how many balls you have, only 5 will do damage. And this is for the monster, that means that a party with 2 pyros is pretty much useless.
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>>149327002
They eat each other while not dealing any damage to enemies.
>>
can someone just post a link to that willthedoggy addon? It seems to be removed
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is plague doctor still stupid OP, or has it been hit hard by the nerfs?

thinking of rolling the bokor>pardoner>pd meme if it's still good
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>Queue for a dungeon
>Current Waiting Queue: 6
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Is there a compiled list of quests that give out monster cards? I need to get them before the ohayou patch!
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>>149326581
I can send it to you, IGN?
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>>149326582
Okay, I guess Comcast is fucking me again, I hate my life and everything in it.
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>>149327393
>queue: 6
>a few seconds later
>queue: 1
>mfw
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>>149327551
Don't fall for it, it's a trap. He's trying to get you banne-

>>149327760
Oh, shit. Too late.
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>>149317569
>>149317820
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ok1FcXbkaj0

evergarden, this is for you. the jump from 95% to 100% was 21,346,847. this is necro life. this is our status. you carried the mantle the best you could and walked my path closely so this is for you.

before you left you told me to get revenge on atom. i won't do that. now my 100% girth flesh cannon is aimed at lolipan only. if i don't ruin lolipan with this flesh cannon then i won't be happy. my grudges and favors are deep so i won't let this pass since he offended me so much. when i don't expect shit and you still disappointment my response won't ever be kind.
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>>149327580
Poor Mia
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>>149327864
lol like I care, I've only played for about a week now
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>>149327897
do you have more than 8k hp yet
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stop being fags and hand over the goods already
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>>149328050
i'm 11k hp and can 1 shot 57k hp 700mdef thaum3
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>>149327897
>100% Flesh Cannon
>Still dies before he can even cast anything
Stay irrelevant
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>>149327897
What a shit build tho
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>>149328190
>>149328242
i can kill cloth cata with 40k hp in a duel at bees 1v1 with him desync'ing. there's a tiny handful of characters which i can't just lift and kill let alone having to use flesh cannon to own you.
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>>149327897
just in time for the bee nerf in 3 days
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>>149328242
pp does more damage than frost cloud
dvines build > elememelock
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>>149328298
>lift and kill
what? aren't you just psycho2? how can you use raise?
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>>149328298
you mean your ai can kill a cloth cata stuck in place? such skill wow. btw i wipe the fucking floor with your trash necro and you needed to call futurecuck back up just to fight me. i guess you left your guild so you dont get your shit build necro pkd at bees
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I hate you guys, you told me sorc farming works fine...

Someone give me a link to the auto pot addon before I cry myself to sleep
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>>149328662
>waah waah I can't google
fuck off
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>>149328662
no one will give you the link, because we don't want you to farm in our spots

go to discord and beg there
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>>149328721
it's been removed...
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>>149328662
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>>149328190
Flesh cannon provides a pretty long range, it's rough at low FPS but Necro can pretty effectively skirt fights and drop the flesh bomb when it's a good time.

I went the CON route and don't regret it but dvine's option is certainly fine too. I'm sure there's a few players that he can kill that I can't, so full INT necro has a niche for solving those problem players.
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>>149327728
Every god damned time.
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>>149323983
Why? They're better and you gain next to nothing from shields without Peltasta.
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>>149328585
>things that never happened
there's been only one person to ever bother me at bee's and it was a stealth canonneer 1 hitting me out of stealth cause i didn't know magic missile could decloak him. you don't have a character which i can't destroy easily cause nobody on /tosg/ plays the few class which are impossible for me to beat. the best shot you got is invis 1 hit cause you're dead if i live past it.
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>>149328894
t. someone whos never been 200+
you'll be using shields constantly so you can tank 1s at storage and maven
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>>149329068
>Not just wearing a full plate set at +5
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>Enhance some gloves in town for magic amp
>Alchemist openly asks why I would do that

Are these guys for real?
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>>149328894
+300-450 damage from arde shits on any 2h.
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>>149329068
>so you can tank
You shouldn't be doing that in the first place if you're not pelt.
Hell you shouldn't even been grinding storage and maven, that's a silly iTOS-only meme.
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what's the best build to include krivis 3? it seems daino 15 is going to be way too helpful to not bring a kriv 3 to GvG
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>>149329229
>Daino 15
The only way that would ever not be overkill is if you had a linker with that buff sharing.
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>>149328961
>there's been only one person to ever bother me at bee's and it was a stealth canonneer
What a load of shit, there's always a notice saying "dvine has been attacked by a random shitter" whenever Futureproof have gvgs. You on the other hand never kill anyone outside of big fights when you're hiding behind 20 people.
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>>149329118
>+5 full set
you still will take more than 1s at storage and maven, the shields 110+ def is worth alot

Unless you're going to enchant your gear to insane standards, you'll always want to be using a shield to take 1s
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Hello anons I plan on going Deeds 10 first at R7 instead of Cyclone 10 ( I saved up 5 points and Ill be leveling Cyclone later)

is this a good idea? are my stats good enough? or do I need more CON? i assume that once I swash and draw aggro i'd be close to dead with my current stats
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>>149329501
Cyclone is better retard
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I'm begging you.... must.... have.... auto.... pot.... please....
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>>149329501
>morecon
How about get better equipment? You'll only be gimping your build by putting in more con
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>>149317503
>save us rance poster was right all along
rance, please....
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>>149329501
>needing con whatsoever
just get +3 or higher glass bracelets

On the off chance you're taking more than 1 from physical attacks, you're literally retarded
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>>149329570
fucking make a macro you idiot, google autohotkey
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>>149329068
I take 1s or negligible damage without a shield.
>>149329163
Outside of autoattacks (lmao), no

>what is Cata pike
>what is big game hunter
We're talking about someone without Peltasta, mind you.
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>>149329693
>>149329603
>what does deeds do: the posts
can you at least familiarize yourself with the classes you're shitposting about
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>>149329501
>having that much con
>on a doppel thats probs not going to be doing pvp anyways
literally why?
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>>149329290
i think you just want me to tell you how great my build is so you can copy it. i don't mind so shoot. nobody can dethrone me cause i'm not copying but making it happen.
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Rance guild when? I vote for the name /ohayou/ Lolipan is too fucking stupid to actually run a guild.
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>>149329763
I'm an idiot...
help...me...
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>>149329805
>He doesn't know what "EHP" is
Yeah man because swordsman don't have that high base hp already right? Wasting points in con is surely the best thing to do when you're aiming to be dps.
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LOLI GET IN THE GAME ATOM IS HERE AND HE'S HORNY
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>>149329857
Now this is some serious delusion, with a fresh splash of paranoia.
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>>149329798
An outright lie or you've never grinded at storage or maven.
You need a shield to be taking that 1 at storage and maven.

Unless of course you're one of those cucks who rely on potions in which case stay a good cuck
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>>149327897
>before you left you told me to get revenge on atom. i won't do that. now my 100% girth flesh cannon is aimed at lolipan only. if i don't ruin lolipan with this flesh cannon then i won't be happy. my grudges and favors are deep so i won't let this pass since he offended me so much. when i don't expect shit and you still disappointment my response won't ever be kind.

Taking things to the next level, I see. Very well, bring it on. Your Lv10 100% attribute Flesh Cannon against 1 point in Slithering.

Let us see whose autism is the greatest.
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I don't know guys I have this really bad sense of dread for this kTOS merger.

Kim's going to find some new way to disappoint us.
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i'm gonna open an arde dagger soon right...
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>>149329798
>Cata Pike
Why is Cata Pike considered the best 2h spear? Isn't Plunger better? What about the 220 white spear?
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>>149330170
hehehehehehehe
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>>149300081
>>149300218
In telsiai from SEA, but I'm not in any guild. Pretty sure I'm not the only one.
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>>149329501
>highlander 3
how does it feel you chose a cuck class that will never get buffed?
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>>149330160
>slithering
>the budget fade for the budget player
lolipan if you had a cleric2 you'd be more difficult to kill. you literally don't understand how the game works.
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LOLI GET ON CUTENOTLEWD NEEDS US
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>>149329343
You know, you can just wear shield and full plate gear and hold C when buying aspersion, then wear whatever you want once you arrive at the desired map and you'll keep enough def to take 1s even there because the spell snapshots when you buy it.
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>>149330037
I said negligible damage, easily healed by the cleric. Because you know, you're grinding as a party.
However that's besides the point, we're talking about someone without pelt who was regretting missing out on Hoplite for the ability to use one handed spears, who won't be swashbuckling. An arde dagger isn't going to be more beneficial than a catacombs pike, so two-hander it is.
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>>149330170
>Fixed a bug that would have caused a "database event" to happen on patch night where everyone would get to star in their own "trapped in an MMORPG" anime after we put in all the new content.
>As always, thank you for your continued support of our upcoming game, Wolfknights.
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Who's actually good at pvp from tosg? I've only seen very few in action. dvine, Karga, Lolipan, cats and Beethoven. Is there anyone else?
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>>149330170
Oh well. It'll be worth it for the content. Of course something is going to break, but that's the price we pay.
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>>149330237
Crit rate. AoE ratio. 188(?) bonus damage against large monsters which dragons already excel against.
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>>149330284
bretty good
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>>149330418
Don't post things like that
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>IMC read rodelposting too much they decided to make Murmillo the only logical class for rodel3
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>background image on the event page on the official tos site still doesn't scale with window size
do they even test anything?
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>>149330329
>its another pet class player who thinks hes good because he has the computer playing for him
wew lad, you know youll never kill anyone without the help of ai.
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>>149330378
WHY DID NO-ONE EVER TELL ME THIS AHHHHHHHHH
now I wished I took pelt for block even more
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>>149330539
>this namedrop bait
There's a good few you haven't dropped. And a couple that literally never get dropped but destroy in PVP anyway.
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>>149330629
Then Murmillo should've been R7, having to take pelt 3 at R7 is silly.

>tfw they changed shinobi just to support shield skills and fit perfectly as a bridge between rodel and murmillo

Oh fuck, you're right.
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>>149330539
Cats
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>the only real thing this game has going for it is how cute it is
>no functional inns or player houses you can decorate
>no furniture you can grind for
Getting worried
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>>149330539
Most of Comfy's old members.
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>>149330667
>it's another scrub who blames everything and everybody when he loses constantly
>IMCCCCCCCCCCC NERFFFFFFF IIIIIIIITTTTTTTTTTTTT MY BUILD SUCKSSS FIX IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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>>149330827
Not a bait, I'm actually curious. I've never really seen a "pvp" built character from tosg, even if I had they don't really play much. No Kino3s or Catagoons, bunch of random PDs but that's it.
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>>149330962
Most of them are ded tho.
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Is it me or they did a stealth nerf on items in the market? Now I can't use +1 and +2 equips for RMT anymore.
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>>149330972
>it's another scrub who blames everything and everybody when he loses constantly
Stop projecting. I already beat dvine in a duel on a non pvp class with both his skeletons and shoggoth out. His 100% flesh cannon is a meme because its not what kills you, its the pets.
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>>149331112
Play the game
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>>149330539

He's actually bretty good when he's not fightin' dirty
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Sword3 -> Cata3 -> ____ -> Lancer

Fill in the blank. The meme choice here was Dragoon but everyone seems to think it sucks. Should I go Pelt to block and level easier or Squire/Corsair for some ranged CC or Hoplite for Finestra or Doppel for extra meatspin or Shinobi for invisibility?
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>>149330539
The strongest there ever was
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>>149331248
>no-one makes any effort to attack him
wow hes so good :^)
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>>149331218
Rude. Not as if I don't have a workaround for this but this was working fine before last maintenance.
Or fags caught on my items so I have to jew new stuff again.
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>>149331112
buy tiara and the tp hats and then do 10-20m transfers
>>149331207
i lost to four people ever in a duel. this could only be bot shitposting who killed me while i was testing out how telekinesis and psychic pressure work in pvp when we first dueled otherwise this is an imaginary story.
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>>149331370
no shinobi skills can be used whilst mounted and without corsairs hook you don't really have any follow up to the stealth
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Where was Desu's guild tower at last time? Though Kirito probably took it down now
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>>149331481
>I already beat dvine in a duel on a non pvp class
>non pvp class
>bot is a pvp cleric
Guess again
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>>149331481
SEAGM only allows 1m per transactions. So I should use something else?
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>>149331370
sw2->pelt1->cata3->sw3->lancer
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>>149330848
>>149330539
Isn't Cats an Elememe aka PvE class? How do people lose to a class with those slow clunky cast times and after-cast animations? Don't tell me you sit in his Frost Cloud or get hit by Sleep. What can he do that a Kino3 can't do better?
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>>149331481
>Spending money 2 times
No thanks
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wait they nerfed gravity pole by making it only slow the enemy down 50% and increased the cd from 30s to 45s... without giving kino anything in return

What the fuck are they thinking? I mean yeah it was strong, but now it's just useless? and they didn't give any sort of compensation to the class? I just don't understand this logic, they just want everyone to be elememe or what?
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>>149331631
>What is Dark Theurge
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>>149331550
Last time someone said it was in Willage, not sure if it's there now.
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>>149331657
>cast raise
>win
woah so useless....
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>>149331726
I recall someone posting a picture of it hidden somewhere else, it was in an old futureproof tower spot. I can't seem to find the post though.
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>>149331657
>kino needing anything to compensate for an op skill
no its balanced now not to mention the fact the enemy slow is arena only
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>>149331396
Katz is controlling 2 character over there.
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>>149295647
How do you macro sayings with attacks? ive been trying to figure that out in this game for a while
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Alright, here's the briefing. Remember a couple weeks ago, during GBL, when Kirito wardec'd Lotus and then removed his tower? He did it again, but with CuteNotLewd instead this time.

He knows his guild is the most wanted around, so he does this in order to control how many wardecs he has around. Better yet, this was coordinated with GuiltyCrown, a guild which the /tosg/ alliance guilds are at war with.

Right now, the 3 guilds are engaging GC at Tenet Garden. More like a slaughter, though. When the war with Desu begins later in a few minutes, they'll only be red named for CNL members. That doesn't mean FP and Clover can't help, though.

Bring healers and ground-control characters. Let's support CNL with Heals, Revives, and by removing their ground spells with Detonate and Reversi.

>>149331550
I checked every known Desu tower locations, it wasn't there.
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>>149331550
Was in FP's old location last time I saw it.
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>>149331631
Cats is one of the original fedimian pit fighters. When all you do is duel all day you git gud.
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>>149331631
I don't know who loses to Cats either it seems like a meme being pushed to me.

There's a lot of good pvpers that go completely unacknowledged because they don't have a "unavoidable CC into burst damage" build as well, people's opinions on who's good at pvp are generally really stupid.
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>>149331903
Nah fuck you
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>>149331869
Which is why it's so fucking easy.
Good luck doing anything with that build without someone to CC your targets.
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>>149331370
Hoplite/Dragoon
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>>149332000
Well, the rankings will tell the truth.
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>>149331692
So the only 2 things keeping him relevant in PvP are his Wiz3 and his Warlock1?
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>>149332179
Elememes without stone curse 15 are PVE builds.
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>>149332152
They won't, they'll just tell who went PD/Warlock and who didn't.
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>>149332179
There are no good pvpers from tosg, this is a fact. They either get carried by their class or use cheese strats like Lolipan using potions and dispellers in a duel.
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Can someone post Class and Franks?
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>>149332242
>stone curse is good
Is this the beginning of an epic new meme?
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>>149332152
Even then some builds suffer more than others from the equalized gear in the arena, I really think guild battles will be the most important thing but individual skill matters more than coordination there. Arena pvp and duels are just a sideshow.
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>>149331903
You know lolipan, I actually find you're a cool guy and pretty reasonable
But you can't seriously expect people going to help AT FUCKING 2 AM.
Everyone is sleeping or going to.
Love you btw
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>>149331593
i don't rmt so i don't know what you should use. i just transfer between myself and so far tiara was the best thing i found for easy of use.
>>149331579
>needing to guess
>not understand how little i care about this
necro god out.
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I want to see Large 'Stone Cold Pizza' Cats PvP in action in videos
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>>149331903
What's with Kirito and CNL? Didn't his previous guild also dec them? I'd also expect GC to target Clover since they were the ones who destroyed their tower.
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>tfw strongly wanting to PvP now
>Neither of my two existing characters are really that great for it, though my main could probably somewhat function
I need to decide on something for the one I make when we get that 30 free tp in a few days.
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>>149332286
>carried by their class

I would say the things that matters most in PvP is your class choice followed by attributes and gear. If you have a 240+ PvP character like a Con CryoKino, Catagoon or DievDoctor you are already a good PvPer. What makes you an actual monster is if you have the autism to get to 280 and put 100m into your attributes and gear.
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>>149332343
How are guild battles any different from duels and 5v5 arena? It's just another "who has the most Clerics, Kinos, Cryos, Warlocks and 2-3 Musket/Cannon wins" game mode.
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>>149332426
Defending the tower isn't a reasonable endeavor anyway, it's only for kills and fun.

If you don't want to come, you don't have to.

>>149332520
He has nothing on CNL, just as they didn't with Lotus. This is just them using the system to their favor.
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can someone post the link to the kToS cash shop?

want to check some prices for the stuff we don't have, thanks
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>>149332339
They will promote higher rank circle debuffs just like what happened to rodelero.

t. HK stalker
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>changing server
H-here I go...
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>you can only pvp once an hour every several hours
What the fuck kind of retarded limitation is this?
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>>149332584
Better question is why are you even trying to PvP competitively without rolling a PvP alt and dumping at least 40m into its gear and attributes? You're only making it worse for your team.
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>>149332524
I disagree, going for the OP cookie cutter build doesn't make you a good player just because you clearly have the class advantage. What makes you a good pvper is beating that said OP class with an inferior class through "skill" but there's very little skill required to play this game so this point is moot.
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>>149332774
Stone curse is r4 c1 though.
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>>149332641
I don't have link, but their soul crystal is 2tp while ours is 4tp.
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>>149332641
http://tos.nexon.com/shop/index.aspx
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Is Kneeling Shot necessary for a Fletcher3?
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>>149332857
So are most of Rodelero's debuffs that got buffed...
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>>149332862
AHAHAHAHAHA!!
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I feel bad but I really had to go pick up someone from their work and didn't want to leave the map.

Based skeletons.
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IMC should make it so that Guilds can't remove their towers after war decs.
I'm sure the hate brigade on the forums will get some attention.
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Kill Desu, Lolipan.
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>>149332789
>mfw waiting for reply
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can someone help me with skill distribution for cryo 3?

I''m guessing max snowrolling, max frost pillar, max subzero shield... but after that I'm lost, max frostwall? or nah, everything else 1 point?
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>The Desu guild has declared war on the Futureproof guild
IT'S HAPPENING
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>>149333140
Give me a PvP build.

>>149333368
>max subzero shield
Not particularly needed.
Get three in frost bolt and you want maxed ice pike.
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Alright. I need some help salvaging my Character. I chose my jobs based on the coolest costumes I saw on the advancement screen and now I don't know what to make of it. Anyways, right now I'm on c5 at job level 8. I am quite attached to this character and really wouldn't want to reroll.

My current circles are Cleric > Priest > Bokor > Sadhu > Paladin. My stat distribution is 2Str : 1 Int : 1 Con. I hear R8 is being announced soon so should I just wait until then to reroll if I have to? Any recommendations for my c6 and c7 till then?
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>>149332832
Exactly, you just disproved your own point there is little skill in the PvP of MMO's in general outside of BnS or Tera or WoW maybe.
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Waiting for Lolipan to suck off Kirito dick now
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When is Clover gonna get that sweet Desu action
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>>149333341
From Varena?
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>>149333513
>little skill in the PvP of MMO's in general
Only in casual games like ToS
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Lolipan, I have an interesting screencap for you.
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>>149333480
Transition into pd at rank 7 and whilst you'll still be worthless, at least you'll do some mediocore amounts of damage and can be useful for pvp

My suggestion for rank 6 is to take cleric 2 for 10 heal which is all you really need as a cleric to get into grinding parties later on
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>>149333576
Yes
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>>149333684
Pretty sure he gets reminded this daily, even in his own guild chat.
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pedo down?
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>>149333480
Completely worthless and unsalvageable.
Just reroll already
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>>149333436
>you want maxed ice pike
What are you wiz3cryo3? Theres no point in maxing ice pike because youre not a dps
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>>149333727
Thanks senpai. I'll take your advice!
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Do you need sardines to feed the penguin or can you feed it regular food?

This will decide if I buy it or not, I don't want to spend TP just to keep my pet fed.
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>>149333896
Go on than, level up that cyro 3 with no damage spells whatsoever until 200
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>>149333749
Welcome aboard.
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>>149333436
That's really broad. I'll be happy to help you with your build but I'll need more direction than that.

I only have experience past circle5 with wizard and archer, by the way.
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>>149333985
sardines
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>>149334056
Well fuck that then. What a way to ruin it.
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>>149333986
>level up that cyro 3 with no damage spells whatsoever until 200
I already have a 280 full support character. What a retarded argument you have.
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>>149333896
Yeah, you enjoy having zero damage for the soloing you'll have to do those first 150ish levels.

>>149334041
I dunno, I tend to favor either being able to destroy someone quickly or being a hard to kill force that annoys the hell out of the enemy.
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Intel regarding Desu's combat strength, courtesy of Lotus.

>Average 10~12 numbers on group fights
>at least 1 scout assasin
>mostly clerics
>Many Dievs, will abuse spawn killing if given the chance
>Druidspam
>At least 1 corsair shinobi
>Obviously, they have WB support such as Chrono and Thaum
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Why did they waste a wizard r8 class for a stupid ass shit crafter class?
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>>149333896
>>149334149
can you help me with skill distribution for cryokino then plz?

going full CON for crazy block
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>>149334162
I would highly recommend cata3, in that case. It's a bit of both with a focus on the latter, and Lancer looks INCREDIBLE.

I like block even in PVP, after watching tons of kToS arena videos where cata vs cata is decided entirely by one of them being able to use a shield and just completely negate rush, but it's your call.

The cookie cutter cata is sword3 cata3 <choice> which you'd then follow up with lancer.

Dragoon is a solid choice for the flex, and assuming Iron Hook works without dismount (check this, don't guess, if you're considering it) then corsair is a solid choice too. Cata isn't reliant on hook like most swordsman because with trot you close the distance so fast it doesn't even matter.

You could also go Sword Pelt Hop Cata3, which would give you Finestra, but not with 100% uptime. In return you get peltasta passive evasion which is super nice if you go a full dex build. The hop is flexible too but you'd have to pick from early sword circles which aren't all that great.

The important part is getting cata3, and taking pelt if you like the idea of blocking. Also keep in mind you are WAY less useful in PVE without pelt.
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I kept getting dc. anyone else having the same issue on klaipedo
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Matsu, I'm I was offline watching My Girlfriend Is a Gumiho. I just invited 2 people in, and it seems you're not on right now.

If you're on again, please reply to this post. I'll be afk in-game but still stick around this thread.
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>>149333368
>>149334162
>you enjoy having zero damage for the soloing you'll have to do those first 150ish levels.
I have a full CON Cryo3Chrono3 and soloing is not nearly as bad as people say it is. Granted there's no reason NOT to take Ice Pike even if you max shield.

Even if you max Shield, Pillar, Snow Rolling, Ice Wall, you still have 10 points left. Level 3-5 Bolt is MORE than enough so you still have have 5-7 points for Pike. Gust and Blast are worthless and shouldn't even be considered.

Anyway soloing is not that bad, Ice Pike doesn't make that much of a difference. Your autos will be your best friend regardless even at Cryo 3.

Just get a good weapon and keep Pardoner buffs up, it's easy as shit.

By the time you get to that point where soloing is just impossible, that's when party grinding becomes a thing anyway.
>>
so, i had to study for my exams and left this game after 5 characters at like 120 in may. i d like to come back to play in august just to timesink my lonely life. any advice? any changes? something i should read? i had the 50 euro pack with coins unspent so ill use them i guess
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>mfw I'm in
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>>149332524
I disagree. I'm never afraid of most cryo 3 kino 3 in gvg without dispeller (Katz disallowed us to use dispeller in gvg as training), except batcat from Synapse. Individual skill does matters, because many retards just straight out fell to your mind game.

And I'm a high INT elememe which isn't suitable for PvP. Many Cryo 3 Kino 3 is just stupid enough to not avoid your evil sacrifice of the DT.
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>>149334369
>you are WAY less useful in PVE without pelt.
That's a nice way of saying "useless in pve".
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>>149333436
>Get three in frost bolt

May I ask why? I was under the impression that ice bolt, ice blast, and gust were one-point wonders.
>>
Desu is currently engaging CNL at Kateen Forest. It'll be a while before we can move in to support, but please provide heals.
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>>149334369
Hook works mounted.
I can tell from personal experience...
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>>149334504
>la
Aren't you from malaysia? They use la there too?
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>>149334587
>I'm never afraid of most cryo 3 kino 3 in gvg
Why the fuck would you, a ranged class, be afraid of Kinos in a GVG where you can hide behind fodder? 1v1 all it takes is 1 freeze and you're 100% dead.
>>
>>149334603
I don't like to say anyone is useless. Cata does decent damage when rush is up. But they're WAY, WAY less useful, to be sure.

>>149334675
>>149334162
Awesome, thanks. Corsair 1 works as a fill for the flex then and gets a cute costume, but level 1 flag is only vaguely useful and you won't be using dust devil, so it's basically just for hook. The reason hook is strong, though, is because it's a (I think?) level 10 debuff - in essence, absolutely nothing removes it, oracles and PDs can't stop it, and it's AoE. If you land hook in PVP, there's no excuse for your team not to kill the hooked target.
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>>149333480
>My current circles are Cleric > Priest > Bokor > Sadhu > Paladin. My stat distribution is 2Str : 1 Int : 1 Con. I hear R8 is being announced soon so should I just wait until then to reroll if I have to? Any recommendations for my c6 and c7 till then?

What
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>>149334680
No, Katz is Pinoy. Everybody from comfy is Pinoy.
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>>149334760
Just to remind you that in Comfy, most of the time we are fighting many as 1 in gvg even as an elememe, because the fight is random.
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>>149334830
>Comfy is an anti-pinoy guild
>Is actually just a bunch of self hating pinoys
Fucking hilarious
>>
hey fuckerlamps

give me a PD build or else
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>>149334785
>>149334369
So maybe something like this?
https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#11347778.23334554.152535.35.3f.12253573
If dust isn't going to do anything, those points into flag?
Honestly, I've been fairly interested in a mount build for a bit now and it sounds like this is dex heavy with a fair bit of con?
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>>149335006
>tfw pinoy actually talk to us in tagalog and we don't know how to respond
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>>149334830
>>149335006
samefag
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>>149335220
>it sounds like this is dex heavy with a fair bit of con?
That's correct. Full DEX Cata is popular. Atom was CON heavy (40k HP if I remember) so any mixture of those (at least 50% DEX, DEX is better the more you invest) should work.

>https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#11347778.23334554.152535.35.3f.12253573
1 point guardian for 18% evade. I'd try to max pain barrier. I'd also just max flag, I think dust devil dismounts you but not 100% sure. Like I said I haven't played a swordsman very far.
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>>149335220
>Corsair c1
>No Restrain
>As a CATA3
>PELT 1 AS A CATA3 LOL
that's some shit tier half-assed build right there
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>>149335368
Drama Queen
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>>149335368
>don't tell anyone i leak location tho
At least censor the chat you fucking mongoloid. Everyone say in shout DoubleUp leaked tower location
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>>149335543
Sasuga Lolipan.
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>>149335543
>miners village
>leak


Meanwhile karga is busy being some sea shitter and is nowhere to be seen
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>>149335368
>>149335543
kek

KEK
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>>149335692
>Damage control
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>>149335368
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>>149335356
>That's correct. Full DEX Cata is popular. Atom was CON heavy (40k HP if I remember) so any mixture of those (at least 50% DEX, DEX is better the more you invest) should work.
I was thinking 2:1 dex:con

>1 point guardian for 18% evade.
Oh right, not like I'll be using concentrate or gungho much in a pvp situation anyways.

>>149335421
I'm sorry that I'm trying to understand things and figure out how to make them work, anon. Does this one make you feel a bit better?
https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#11317877.1423335a6575.15243541.3f65.152535
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>new members join in Comfy
>current topic on guild chat is yaoi and boku no pico

Sasuga Comfy
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>>149335763
This is Futureproof's GUILD LEADER everyone.

Lolipan are you ever going to change and act like someone worthy of respect?
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>>149335934
You will be surprised by how many fujoshi we have.
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>>149334369
your a fucking idiot and you need to play the game

im a cata in one of the tosg guilds and rush is used as either a finisher when your opponent has lower hp than you and is running or as a rush down vs something like an archer who you cant hit with knockdowns

ive had people try to block me in duels and i just fucking impale them and when the impaler runs out i CC chain with restrain, i can also blow through block because of cataphract blockpen and gloves with yellow gems


you obviously dont play the fucking swordsman class so dont fucking give advice

your almost as fucking triggering as the F.O.E. member trying to tell me that picking Dragoon after Cataphract is a mistake and its better to go Corsair 1 for the Iron Hook

lmao holy fuck kill yourself my man
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>>149336063
>F.O.E. member trying to tell me that picking Dragoon after Cataphract is a mistake and its better to go Corsair 1 for the Iron Hook
Hahahaha this can't be fucking real, but then again FOE is full of shitters so it must be true.
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>>149335192
https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#411222ce.1a233a415561.1f213345516a75a5.153545.152535
PvP and ET approved
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>>149336063
>ive had people try to block me in duels and i just fucking impale them
now THIS is shitposting!!
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>tfw you don't feel the same with your crush

i think love can die too.
>>
Does Kabbalist synergize with ANYTHING?
Also, what's a good Oracle/Kappalist build if the answer is yes?
>>
>>149336036
Fujoshi implies girls anon. There are no girls on the internet.
>>
When is r8 actually coming out? I can't fucking start a new character until I know exactly how I'm going to build it for r8.
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>>149336304
even if block was supposed to block it I guess it didnt matter because I had enough penetration to go through

so either way getting pelt just for the fucking block is retarded especially for a PVP focus

the only thing worth its shit in peltasta is the guardian evasion attribute, and that is only good if your high to full dex

you really shouldnt go full dex
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>>149336429
Wait for r8 info. If you want to make a kabbalist just because you want to be a jew then make cleric3,diev3,kabbalist. If you want pvp you take pd
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>>149336063
Disregarding the few things you said that are flat out incorrect, you might want to note:
>>149334041
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>>149336461
Korea? Later this summer
iToS? Not before fall or even winter
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>>149336063
>pelt is bad on cata3
if youre gonna shitpost at least watch some videos my man half the top arena swordsmen in ktos have pelt and block frequently
>>
https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#4117775e.1a2a345561.11243f5a6a75.152565.152535

Can anybody pls help me make this better?
>>
>38 people in Miner's village at 3 AM just to watch Desu get BTFO
>>
>>149336563
Cleric3/Diev3/Kabbalist doesn't have the Oracle outfit though so that simply won't do.
>>
>>149336436
there is no boys in Comfy
>>
>>149336597
>what is patch repository merge?
>>
>>149336570
wow look its literally exactly what i said

non swordsman giving advice to someone wanting to be swordsman

absolutely epic thank you for proving my point
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>>149336063

>tfw crossguard utterly blocks impales
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>>149336647
> in guild at war
>tfw just want to watch but not fight
>>
>>149336697
>stop trying to help people idiot u dont know everything about every class
>even though what you said was right and what i replied about it was completely wrong
>and no im not going to help the person actually asking for help because if i do someone will figure out im shitposting and have never actually pvped on cata or talked to any cata who has as if it wasnt super obvious by now
you should try reddit instead my friend theyll be a lot more tolerant of your misinfo
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>>149336635
link a video where this is shown

the top PVP cataphracts i have seen are either swordsman 2 into hoplite or sword 3 with 2h

if you stand in place and block you get assmangled by mages fuck face mcgee

be sure to block the iron hook aimed for your stationary dick too
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>>149336597
I don't want to wait that long to make a new character. My interest in this game is already dying.
>>
>>149336697
>non swordsman giving advice to someone wanting to be swordsman
Partially incorrect.
I'm looking for something effective for PvP that fits my style of play, not specifically a sword.
If stuff is wrong, feel entirely free to give some advice yourself, maybe you'd know something I'd personally enjoy more for that I want even.
>>
>>149336791
your saying im giving misinfo but your not explaining why it is misinfo

maybe you care to enlighten everyone on how you are the weapon master guru in the swordsman tree

im speaking from experience, are you speaking from skill builder?
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>>149336420
>tfw you weren't as special to your special friend as he was and he's moved on
>>
>>149336792
>what is pelt's attribute bonus to block that works all the time
I don't think you even play the game lad.
>>
>>149336672
We aren't getting rank8 at same time probably
>>
>>149334162
>I dunno, I tend to favor either being able to destroy someone quickly or being a hard to kill force that annoys the hell out of the enemy.
>destroy someone quickly
Necromancer
>hard to kill force that annoys the hell out of the enemy
Full CON CryoKino. They used to be able to easily kill too, but now they are more annoying than deadly... but still annoying for sure.
>>
>just remembered ktos patch Pounce has knockdown

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cEuU64Zt4B0

Awaiting 26th July warmly.
>>
Post screenshots pls
Is desu's tower dead yet or are more guilds gonna come and dec them
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>>149336940
>not reading what I am typing

here is your (you)
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>>149336429
be glad kabbalist is a monster on it's own

revenge seven fold 1 shots random people in GvG, and ein soft makes your already tanky characters nearly unkillable, as well as being a mana battery for pve.
>>
>>149337080
>implying you need to C to initiate block
Play the game shitposter-kun.
>>
>>149337013
>Necromancer
Are you serious? flesh cannon is so easy to dodge so you need to cc targets first. Warlock can kill faster with dt and they also block nukes with it. Musketeer/cannoneers are the true 1 shot class specially when they have access to stealth.
>>
welp it's begun
>>
>>149336429
>he doesn't know the bokortats combo
>>
>>149337119
>kabbalist is a monster on it's own
It's a very lackluster class
>revenge seven fold 1 shots random people in GvG
It happens but very rarely
>ein soft makes your already tanky characters nearly unkillable
You're thinking about Healing Factor
>>
>>149337036
Barb pounce? Makes me wonder if this might be workable in PvP soon. https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#11266699.1123334553.11253544.5a6a718591a3bf.1a21335a617181

>>149337013
>Necro
Honestly doesn't interest me. Pet ai gives me a headache.

>CryoKino
Somewhat interests me, but leveling a full con cryo is painful.
>>
how the fuck people be saying plague doctor is useless for pve?

healing factor shits all over every other class.
>>
>>149337230
what the fuck are you going on about lmao are you implying that 25% block shield mastery is going to make a difference?

fuck off and stop trying to misinfo noobs

PVE= take pelt who cares

PVP= take pelt and hold C and get fucked or pray the extra 25% block will somehow miraculously block all phys damage

kTOS patch also includes STR increasing blockpen
>>
>>149337448
>applies to 1 (one) person
>gets ignored 90% of the time
Yeah man PD so good for pve
>>
>>149336929
Yesh
>>
>>149337484
>kTOS patch also includes STR increasing blockpen
>this being relevant in PVP in any way
Are you going to both have the dex to hit the other cata and the str to blockpen?

Are you even trying any more?
>>
>>149337334
Not him but I saw some random vid of an english player on ktos as cleric 3 paladin 3 kabbalist full con with 100k hp with ein soft.
>>
Half the server came to watch Desu and Kirito get BTFO.
>>
>>149337523
every good party has a linker, and a linker can share it between everybody.
>>
>>149337484
>can't even hit either because you put points in STR instead of even more DEX
I don't know mate I think you should stop being theorycrafter and play the game.
>>
>>149337546
>nitpicking certain specific parts of my argument to tailor it to make it seem you have any ground left

are (You) even trying?
>>
>>149337350

Pounce ---> Seism ---> triple cleave

Can't wait for kToS patch.
>>
>>149337708
Accuracy scales with character level, you do not need full DEX

if you read up on how accuracy formula works in the pastebin mechanics guide you would know that
>>
>>149337896
the strongest buffs ive seen for barb in kTOS is that the animation for the skills has been sped up so it is a lot easier to land after you stop dashing/running
>>
>>149338047
>you do not need full DEX
>PVP
>swordsman
>you do not need full DEX
wew x250 you should REALLY try the game

its not that bad
>>
>>149337896
Man, I'm getting a hard on thinking about it.
Shame that jump skill doesn't stun or anything I bet, cause that looks hilarious.
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How the hell do you guys put up with the 230 levels of solo questing every time you want to make an alt?

I feel like sticking a fork in my brain and twisting it around.
>>
How important is Mass Heal for Priest? Is it just a 1 point skill? Seems kind of weak as not everyone is going to be super grouped up all the time. Is C2 Heal10 good enough or should I dump more into Mass Heal? Is it important in Earth Tower perhaps? Res seems like 5/5 is important (2 second cast time) whereas for Rev I'm thinking 5 is good enough.
>>
How do i increaes the amount of stamina i have? I'm burning through it like crazy. I have 36 stamina at base level 126.
>>
>>149338201
what fucking level are you kiddo? are you a sword->highlander->barb memelord who hasnt got past level 100 and your dueling random fuckboy BRs in between your dungeon queues and questing?

Go full dex and run into mages that have gone full CON and have 9k more HP than you. Go full dex and get memed on by archers that will kite you until you have 0 HP because you don't have enough damage to run them down and you can't restrain them because you took pelt hoplite instead of a restrain build

k i l l y o u r s e l f my d u d e
>>
>>149338282
you know, I don't mind the questing

the dungeons tho, that's a pain in the ass, I hate the fuckign daily dungeon grind, but if you don't do them you'll be stuck grinding solo in very awkward places
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Who did this?
>>
>>149338282
The first 100 levels are the worst, but I've only gotten past that on one character so far too.
>>
Having to kill 50ish monsters for the Daily Mercenary Quests seems kind of not worth it.
>>
>>149335937
>Respect
>In ToS
>>
>>149338404
well it used to be speculated that the jews did it but I think the hamster is the culprit
>>
>>149338282
buzz buzz
>>
>>149338371
>cata3 getting kited by archers
How many times are you going to prove you don't play this class?
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>>149338404
It was your hamster. We'll have to take it into custody for questioning.
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>>149338404
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>>149336429
>Does Kabbalist synergize with ANYTHING?

>R7f doesn't work with bokor zombies
>They will still count as a target, possibly depriving a party member of the cast

I can't tell if this is a result of IMC's incompetence, or their inexplicable spite toward bokors.
>>
>>149338542
>passing judgment instantly
Monks have no respect for the justice system. That hamster deserves a fair trial.
>>
>>149338542
No!!
It was the porcupine!
>>
I love Telsiai shout.
>>
>>149338371
>cata
>get killed by archer
wew lad
>>
>>149338664
NOT A PORCUPINE
>>
>>149338539
you will lose the running game because your rush will not do enough damage to jimmy jimbob who has DEX and STR
and if you don't have restrain you can't interrupt their movement with mini stuns and the attribute slow

its not even about moving very fast, its about moving fast to place skills

it is hard to land a knockdown on a running target if Rush fails, unless someone gives you an opportunity. that comes down to skill

QS3 can cancel Rush channeling (when its spinning) with stone shot and if you fiddle around and try to chain knockdowns without being able to kill them in 3 skills someone will most likely come help them, or they will kill you

(because you have no CON you faggot full DEX)
>>
>>149338847
not even QS3, I meant to say just flat out quarrel shooter
>>
GWEN

DON'T ACT LIKE YOU DIDN'T SAW ME

COME BACK HERE
>>
>>149338847
>QS3 can cancel Rush channeling (when its spinning) with stone shot
This just gets better and better.
>>
>>149338646
It's mostly for pvp, but r7+mackangdal gives damage invulnerability to your whole party, without worrying they'll be killed when mack ends. The damage they took will all be reflected to you, so you only have to figure that last part out.
>>
>>149338847
t. someone whos never pvp against a catagoon before
>>
>>149339006
I honestly do not care if you believe me or not, SRs who have movespeed potion can give a cataphract hell on earth

it is some odd interaction with the skill ability itself. i dont even think anyone gives a fuck besides you and i at this point, and you seem like your just trying to bait more and more


the information is here believe it or not i dont give a fuck because i have experienced it and know it to be true, if you dont think it is then roll your fulldex peltasta cataphract that will dominate the pvp and gvg arena u did it lad
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>>149337593
>sharing healing factor
Play the game
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>>149339286
>>149339286
>>149339286
>>149339286

migrate
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