/dsg/ - Souls General

Blek Snek

>>149269610
The pic is fucking gay

Reminder that Dark Souls 2's combat is literally objectively better than 3's
DaS2 has
>biggest variety of weapons and useful weapon movesets, as opposed to das3 which reuses the shitty boring movesets from das1 for most weapons
>full weapon movesets in the left hand, but at least you can block with the parry dagger in 3 lol
>powerstancing, instead of a few designated pairs of dual wield weapons (enjoy having to play through 90% of the game just to be able to dual wield straight swords)
>gradually increasing rolls, rather than 3 tiers only one of which is useful
>i-frames on backsteps adds another way to avoid hits and switch up your game up, riskier than rolling but also comes with a bigger reward since you recover faster and can do a running attack right away
>shield slap is more useful than das3's slow kick, which isn't a guaranteed guard break like in das2 but is also not as fast as the kick in das1
>roll cancels, attack cancels, delayed and sped up attacks, and sped up parries added another layer of depth to the combat for higher skill players, are the one of the reasons pretty much everything is viable in das2, and are all missing in das3
>magic is actually viable, even as your main weapon, not just due to the high damage but also the variety of spells and spell cancels
>poise system is a perfect combination of poise and hyper armor, wherehaving some poise might just let you shrug off a single hit from a rapier, but gets increased when swinging a big weapon to the point where you can poise through a katana, as opposed to das3's dumbed down hyper armor system with no poise where R1 spam is rampant and you have hope your opponent is dumb enough to run right into your swing, and good luck doing that when you can't attack cancel
>2 handed parrying and weapons with unique abilities which are actually useful like the fume ultrasword, blue flame, puzzling sword, bone fist, alonne sword, santier's spear and throne watcher sword, unlike the shitty weapon arts in das3

>>149269861
No it isn't.

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very cute OP

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1-3 Lautrec of Carim cosplay run

4-7 Silver Knight cosplay run

8-9 Ornstein cosplay run

0 Kirk Knight of thorns cosplay run

>>149269861
What a retard.

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>put on way of blue and fingers to help fellow blues while farming for lothric helm
>two invadees
>dorkmoon comes and kills one
>busy fighting last invadee
>dorkmoon arrives
>he doesn't help and invadee BCs
>he loses out on another ear
Holy shit has your white knight faggotry made you lose sight of priorities?

>>149269854
>almost 2 k
>that little health

Why has BB got such inflated numbers? In the end it balances out but nothing wrong with that hit dealing the same percentage damage for 600 hp or so.

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>tfw always been a filthy dexfag
>mfw switching to a pally-like build with vit/faith/str/endurance

>>149269861
Don't forget that, especially PVP wise, Estus was handled way better. It took a decent amount of time, and didn't heal instantaneously, allowing you to punish chuggers, as opposed to insta-heal in Dork Souls 3

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>>149269991
I wish somebody would make this for DS3.

>>149269849
not really. Were you hoping to see some androgynous meme boipucci pcfcbf horseshit so you could dream of fucking a video game character instead?

surely thats as hetero as you can get

>>149269949
>>149269995
>no arguments
Hackazaki dickriders everyone, at least you admit that the B(est) team was better

>>149270282
>Nice projection, pc fc bf

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Any good ds3 weapons worth crystal infusing? Preferably with str/dex reqs that aren't too high. I have 40 int.

>>149270198
Replace human with embered and there you have it.

>>149270198
Fuck it

>>149270143
Under normal circumstances, you deal about the same numerical damage per hit as souls games, but most weapons attack much, much faster and for a fraction of the stamina cost. They inflated boss HP numbers to compensate for the radically increased player DPS.

Charged R2s were also much stronger in that game, I suppose because it was their first time using that mechanic and they wanted to make the damage worthwhile,m and that boss' head is a weakpoint that takes significantly more damage. In BB, weakpoints aren't just spots that have lower defense, but a straight % multiplier to damage taken there (usually something like 30 or 50%). So a charged R2 that normally does about ~1k damage did closer to 2k, but it was a tiny fraction of the boss' total HP because it's an optional upgraded version of a boss locked away in a special post-game challenge area, and balanced around the DPS of an endgame player with the best possible gems and highest possible damage output

>>149269854
>Unfinished fight
You fucked up in the next jump and he killed you
Faggot

>>149270198
/roll for DS3 because it kinda works

I wish they made it so when you completed a character's side quest it'd unlock their sliders in the creation screen.

>>149270291
>taking the bait this hard
Someone's insecure about their arguments

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>>149270551
You got fukt.

>>149270615
But you can find all sliders easily, it's in the fucking OP

>>149269861
Even without powerstance the fact that weapons had movesets with L1 and L2 instead of just being a block and R1 made it so much better. My dual-wield FUGS are a pain in the ass to use in DS3 because of the shitty moveset, low damage, and the worthless block.

>>149270654

rerolling >>149270551

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>>149269959
>no more /bartending/ gen
I'm suffering senpai

>>149270084
>farming watch pups shit
>invade into host and one phantom
>they've got their hands full with the exiles and I see a red on the way to help out
>4v2 invader wet dream
>red immediately hornet backstabs me as im wailing on the host
>what the fuck is this shit
>fight red while the host and his phantom finish off the brothers
>kill the red and hide behind one of the fuckhueg crabs
>seed
>safest place for me to go is towards the host and his phantom
>Ill let you guess how this ended

it could be worse anon

>>149270174
The heal-over-time was one of the worst parts of DaS2's estus system.

For example, lets say someone is missing a quarter of their HP and estus heals about 3 quarters.
In DaS1/3, you instantly heal that 1/4 of your HP back and the other 2/4 of heal value is wasted. If you get punished for chugging, you end up with HP lost that, depending on the amount of damage dealt, could lerave you at slightly more or significantly less HP than before you chugged.

In DaS2, the healing doesn't stop until it fully exhausts its healing value, or your HP fills. That means that if you heal at 1/4 and someone punishes you, the estus will continue to regenerate the damage taken by their punish, ands you're still likely to end up with full HP by the end. Estus was incredibly difficult to properly punish in 2 because of this. As long as the person chugging was smart enough to chug while their HP was still high, they could always erase any damage your punish did. This was especially true because double-chugging was so fast. If you thought you'd still take more damage than a single estus could erase, you could double chug to ensure that you'd restore full HP even through something ridiculous like a buffed Crypt Blacksword backstab. Healing over time just meant that smart players always got more effective value out of their estus, and could use that value to erase damage incurred from that very same heal being punished. It was a bad and abusable system.

when are they nerfing gotthards?

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>>149270915
okay I'm officially fucked

>>149270348
>implying

good try champ

Put it in the wrong thread by accident:

>>149262682
>>149262685
That doesn't really seem like a gank though, speaking of post-pontiff, because the invaders get 2-3 guys as well. I'm looking for insanely unfair 3-4 vs 1s.

>tfw only one greataxe with the BKGA moveset in 3
I miss my bandit greataxe.

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>>149270084

>>149271116
>implying implications
Nice try!

>>149271009
Thank god someone with at least human average intelligence still exists in these threads.

>>149270291
No argument needed. He destroyed it all on his own.

>>149270528
It was a flawless victory.

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Jesus christ every single host wants my ass dead today.

Worker cosplay is officially my favourite. Four-Pronged Plow underrated as fuck.

>>149271209
>implying that I was implying implications

en guarde faggot

>Estoc WA deals 400 damage through a Havel's Greatshield
Oh shit, I guess it has some uses after all.

>>149271695
>Implying you were not implying implications
lmao @ ur life

>be lvl 120 with a +10 weapon
>take an unupgraded morning star and kill trash mobs until it breaks
>invade someone and hit him for like 80 dmg per hit
>let him kick my shit in
>add him as friend and tell him that he's a fucking hacker and that I just reported him

pfffttHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHA

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>>149270404
Come on int build bros.

>>149269861
>powerstancing is better than what we have but still not what dual wielding should be
>poise might as well not be in the game, since even full-plate armour won't bounce of a small blow
>it costs a third of your stamina bar just to attack once

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>>149271116
>>149271209
>>149271695
>>149271815

>

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>people complain about people using meta weapons
Why? Most people using them are completely incompetent and can be beat with worse weapons without a problem. Even if you can't, you can always swap up to a better weapon to be on the same playing field.

Yeah sure, they're boring to fight exclusively, but they're not as common as people whine about. Other than 2k I don't think they're overused.

>>149271815
>implying that the implications were ever not implied by you and you alone

tip top kekkity famalam

>>149271862
That doesn't make sense. Where's the joke?

>character creation, Gundyr, Sage, Dancer
Those are good tracks
>Deacons, Pontiff, Demon King, Oceiros, Watchers, Yhorm
Had the potential but they fucked it up

Rest are shit

>>149271902
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1q54zHO7kLuMxbZyFXb7ANHKogz6Mvbir0cA3YqI6Xuk/edit?usp=sharing

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>>149271862
ok

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>>149271965
>Implying you're not implying implications I never even implied

>>149271902
id say anything with good raw scale that fits under you str/dex requirements

>>149272013
The joke is that you purposefully take a shit weapon when your opponent expects you to actually deal more damage and when you deal very low damage to him you act all surprised and accuse him of hacking.

>straight swords, curved swords and other fast weapons had their stamina consumption reduced, damage increased, and speed increased

>most heavy weapons had their stamina increased, speed decreased, and damage remains the same

BRAVO HACKAZAKI

>>149272130
>Implying that you didn't imply the implications that were originally implied

>>149272278
>>most heavy weapons had their stamina increased, speed decreased, and damage remains the same

>what is fume and bkga nerf

>>149271320
What does that even mean? And still no arguments made

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>>149271862
HAHAHA GOTTEEEEEEM! XD

Hey bro, you kill any Casul n00bs that would dare hurt our fluffy tail maiden lately? XD

>>149272259
That'd only be funny if From did ban people

>>149272407
>Impliying I implied any implications before you started implying implications that I never implied

>>149271862
Hey look scott made an non faggy video once
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hx1d-nDdobc

>>149272464
that doesn't sound funny either

>>149272435
He claimed his opinion was fact, which invalidated his argument since it is simply not true.

>>149272278
they were a problem even after the speed and stamina nerf in 1.08 or whatever patch it was because the intitiating attack is so fast that they outspeed everything still so it doesn't fucking matter if they spam it 18 times because you're still catching 600 damage off of an r1r1 combo

even if you bait them into HA if your timing isn't right they can hit you once and roll out before they catch damage

What's a good build for a Protector of Priscilla?

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>>149272452
>Yorshka
>fluffy

Get out.

>>149272278
Their damage actually got lower. In DaS2 the top-tier heavy weapons could typically land 600-700 damage R1s. Now the absolute highest damage you can get out of an ultra's R1 is around 400, and only the ones that break 700 AR can reliably hit that. They also made it so that HA trades prevent you from comboing a second hit most of the time, Grataxes can't combo R1s consistently, and both UGS and Greathammers combo their 2nd R1 so slowly that they lose the ability to combo in more than 100ms of delay (which is about 50% of fights).

Miyazaki really, really, really doesn't like strength. It's probably the only thing he hates more than faith.

>>149271862
Jesus christ. The game is so shit that people come with awful shit like this to do because there's literally NOTHING ELSE.

>>149272772
>go to NG+
>as it's loading realize I forgot to kill yorshka

>>149272452
lol

>>149272571
Implying you didn't imply implications while implying implications that I didn't imply

>>149272698
One that doesn't exist because she's not in the game.

Yet.

>>149272776
DaS2 had higher hp numbers than DaS3.

>>149272691
>parry spammers try catch roll+r1 with 2h ugs
>I use roll r2
>they can parry and still roll away before weapon hits the ground based purely on animation speed

What were they thinking

>>149272862
>Failing to properly imply implications of me implying you implying implications you didn't imply
You disgust me. Hand over your
>implication
license

>>149272939
And the damage of ultra weapons relative to the damage of everything else was still higher. The only non-ultras that came close in terms of damage relied on counter bonuses, but now straightswords and curved swords can hit 300 damage while most ultras barely break 350.

>roll
>L2
>roll
>L2
>roll
>L2
>roll
>L2
>roll
>L2
>roll
>L2
XDXDXDXDXDDD

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>>149273345
>endgame pvp

>>149273345
L1* even, fuck gotthards

>>149273345
>pro_meta.jpeg

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>letting Orbeck kill people
I love this.

>>149272668
Alright, change that to ''subjectively'' then. Are you gonna refute any of my arguments? No point in replying again if not

>>149273085
goddamit I fucked it up

>>149272984
they literally werent

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>>149273345
top tier pvp

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w9pW7PpypMU
God damn it Lautrec, why is you first response when you see an unknown thing to shoot it?

Does anyone here have that scrrenshot of the /v/ catalog when DS2 was announced and everyone went bananas?

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Why the fuck did they do that?

>>149273936
you mean THAT??

Something interesting I've noted by fighting NPC Havel:
If hyperarmor is broken, the stagger incurred is significantly less than normal. It appears to be downgraded by roughly one "level" of stagger vs a non-HA hit.

For example, when not in HA a fully charged 2HR2 thrust from a UGS will send Havel flying backwards and knock him flat on his ass. When it breaks his hyperarmor, it instead only triggers a normal stagger, as though he was hit by a regular R1.

I'd like to do more testing, but my sneaking suspicion is that this also applies to non-HA weapons during the active frames of their animation. In other words, interrupting a katana during the active frames of its swing likely incurs a smaller stagger than simply hitting it when it isn't performing any actions. I suspect this is why HA weapons like ultras tend to fail to combo into a 2nd hit when they HA trade with smaller weapons. You can see quite clearly in these cases where you HA trade and your 2nd R1 fails to combo that the enemy recovers much, much faster than normal -sometimes so quickly that it appears as though they've recovered before you've even finished your first swing's animation.

I need to test things more to confirm, but I strongly suspect that non-HA weapons incur a shorter hit stun when their attacks are interrupted, and that this shorter stagger only affects weapons that are slow enough to rely on long stagger for their 2nd R1 to land.

>>149273928
Well I know I don't have it. Not that I'm trying to be patently unhelpful.

>>149274016
tl;dr
From sure loves cucking strength builds

>>149273936
Bonfires within arms reach?

AFAIK its because of all the PCuck crying abut the distance between check/save points when Prepare to Die came out.

>>149273992
THAT?!?!

>>149274309
>AFAIK means shit I pulled out of my ass

>>149274016
you notice it regualarly in pvp. there are certain attacks that stun an enemy that don't combo into a hit as well as the fact that when you hit an enemy either in HA or with your second r1 that they can immediately roll away instead of taking two hits

>>149274375
>PCucks being this butt blasted

Why am i not surprised.

>>149273936
Because Miyazaki quality control.

>>149273936
Becuase they wanted too keep the concept of every boss leaving a bonfire after their defeat and wanted to give the grand archives a bonfire aswell but if they placed one in the archives it would ruin the level design even more.
>>149274058
It's okay.

>>149273936
I actually thought that was a glitched headpiece.

>>149274995
and?

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>>149275112
I was going to say which one of you twinks are here bullying me because I swear the guy has infinite estus. But the salt moment has passed so I guess I wouldn't help blues and just continue farming lothric helm.

>>149272776
>tfw grinding people for 950 damages with dark ormareeves
but also
>tfw no more excellent choice

>>149275112
memes

>>149274995
>This profile is private
Unlike his butthole lmao

What's the point of hiding as a host?

>>149275360
no fucking clue what you're on about but hopefully your luck turns

>>149275372
too spicey for me I guess

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>>149272776
>Miyazaki hates strength

Think he was bullied by a Chad?

>>149269861
This is all truth.
Even though DS2 isn't the best game in the series it's pretty clear Memezaki didn't give a rats ass about DS3. I feel like he was just around for the paycheck instead of trying to make it the swan song of the Soul series.

BB and DS1 also have better combat, because they don't try to be BB and Souls at the same time like DS3.
All we can hope is that the DLC team is going to try hard as motherfuckers, but there are too many fundamentally shit design choices to fix them all.

The decision to stop invasions while unembered and on boss clear along with no blue eye orb was clearly made by someone who hates or simply doesn't play Souls games.

>>149275504
It's funny. I love seeing the invader has returned home messages when they can't win the hide and seek.

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The Firelurker is fucking my shit up and I'm afraid I've taken wrong decisions with my levels so far.

I'm better of starting a new run?
What class and builds would be better?

>>149275504
To not die.

>>149275521
I was helping out blues by doing dried finger and switching to WoB whenever I got invaded while farming the helm. So far I helped out some blues with their concords but this one twink Complete Douchebag kept invading me and he knew what he was doing unlike everyone else. I got what was written on the tin but it got out of hand since my original goal was to get this retarded helm to drop in the first place.

>>149275601
>miyazaki caught an axe body spray lubed black dildo from a chad up the pooper so he hates strength but now has stockholm syndrome for western shit

checks out

>>149275730
it's stupid and you suck dicks

>>149275784
your objective isn't to not die
we can wait forever
your objective is to get to the boss fog
if I want to hide along the path I know you'll take and ambush you, that's all in the spirit of the game
if you hide, you're just a fuckfaggot loser

>>149275774
if you have magic, flamelurker is easy. Buy a ton of spice, hang back and pepper him with soul arrows.

>>149275601
>>149275804
Not a Chad, it most likely was a muscular priest.

>>149275774
Just trap him behind one of the giant ribcages in his room and poke him to death.

Or cheese his blind and deaf ass with the Thief Ring and pillars.

>>149276039
That's what I've been trying all this day but I'm just getting one-shotted. I'm all out of Ephemeral Stones and grass.

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>>149275845
You're the real mvp m8

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>>149273928
I want to find that too.
It sucks that I'm never really around for the release hype because I want to avoid spoilers. Then I come back to find out that the general hates the game I just finished, loved, and came to share opinions of bursting with excitement.

Then become jaded like the other veterans of the game.

>>149275946
They aren't a loser if they don't die. As you pointed out, their goal is to get to the boss fog, not to fight you. If they can do that by hiding until you get bored and leave then that is a perfectly valid strategy.

The only loser is you, if you can't find them or you leave. Remember, your goal is to kill them, not the other way around. You not liking it doesn't mean it is not in the spirit of the game.

>>149275774
>royalty
>20str
What kind of build are you going for?
Also Flamelurker is easily one of the hardest bosses in the game, I recommend trying another level.

>>149276168
Well you do only have 10 vitality. The good thing about demon's souls is that if you're stuck on one boss, you can do another area then try later. You should probably do that, level your vit, then give him another go. If you can manage to take one hit from flamelurker, he's fairly easy since you can roll back and grass up.

>>149276237
>Then I come back to find out that the general hates the game
This is literally every single thread on /vg/, including non-Souls threads.

>>149276306
Mainly some kind of Magic Knight, a hybrid that can supply any kind of need.

>>149276290
my only goal is for them to not get to the boss fog, if they're hiding like a pussy, I'm winning

>>149275946
Your reaction proves that it's effective. I could quickstep spam to the fog wall and you'd never catch me because rolls are broken. I could even do that with obscuring+ slumbering + cat, it's awfully easy. I don't because, whatever you may want to think, it's not my objective, I don't have to fight the boss now, I may have suddently decided I'd rather fuck around with you and, if you can't find me, though luck.

Soul Memory would've worked fine if it had taken into account souls spent on levels/upgrades (but not consumables), not souls earned.

>>149275601
Rather I think his conception of gameplay is that the higher skilled a player becomes, the more they will naturally gravitate to the fast, spammy, lightweight playstyle, and that slow, heavy, big is more or less a simpler playstyle for simpler players and doesn't really explore the depth of the combat system,

It's a systematic bias in every game he's directed. Even the Armored Core games he worked on were like that. Not only were heavy, slow builds much, much worse than fast ones, but they were also much simpler. There was just inherently less gameplay involved in them.

I get the impression that Miyazaki tends to consider the different gameplay of different build types by skill-level and competence of the player. Vitality is a bad stat because its primary function is just to let a player get hit more, which is obviously not something an action game wants to generally encourage, but can still be desirable for players that are bad enough to get hit a lot. Strength weapons are inherently worse than dex and quality weapons because they have HA and are capable of poisebreaking/knocking down enemies that are otherwise difficult to. There's less gameplay there because they have the unique ability to prevent large and powerful enemies from retaliating simply by hitting them. There's not a single enemy in the game that a UGS can't trivialize by chaining 2HR2 knockdowns. Strength seems to have been designed in general with that in mind, with the idea that it would be more forgiving and easier to play, and thus less powerful overall - that players would eventually graduate from strength weapons and move on to faster-paced playstyles.

Faith is the same way. Faith has always been designed around the idea that it was the earlygame crutch for players that were so bad they actually needed additional healing resources in order to progress. It's not designed to be a fully-fledged playstyle or be comparable to physical melee builds.

>>149276463
you should try actually playing the game sometime instead of hiding because you suck

>>149276448
Ah, so you are a scrub that tries to make up your own rules, outside of the ones actually set forth by the game.

>>149276448
This is literally false because you don't get a token for duty fulfilled by just AFKing there.

>>149274649
>it would ruin the level design even more.
The level design of the Grand Archives is actually really good because there's not a single bonfire in the area itself, which makes it rely on the physical shortcuts more and it's pretty amazing your first time through desu sempai.

>>149273936
I think it's to prevent the game having to load two areas right as you spawn in and try to run for the Homoprinces boss fog.

>>149276435
Ok, thats fine.
As the other anon said, your vitality is really low, but also your endurance, which could easily be a problem because of how active the fight is. I recommend just levelling and doing another area for now. 5-1 is pretty easy aside from all the pits.

>>149276659
I can get my token however I please and if that means blocking your route to the boss fog until you run into death, it's a legitimate tactic
your tactic is illegitimate and pointless

>>149276647
you're the shittest player in these threads, you tripping is embarrassing

>>149276831
>until you run into death
How can they run into death if they are hiding?

His goal is clearly working because he hasn't been killed by you and because it is clearly making you mad as fuck.

>>149276618
Nah, I've soloed the game enough times, there are no rules. I can invade and kill other reds if I feel like, or bait enemies into NPCs, or do a regular fight, or anythng i between, same if I'm the host. Don't like it? Kill yourself or black crystal out, because there's nothing saying I can't do it and knowing people get salty like you is more than enough motivation to go on.

>>149275653
>The decision to stop invasions while unembered and on boss clear along with no blue eye orb was clearly made by someone who hates or simply doesn't play Souls games.

But it was the same thing in Dark Souls 1.
Making people unable to stop invasions by not going embered is only going to make people play offine and leave all pvp for tryhards.

>try to go about my day grinding / farming shit
>have to deal with Tyrone and Jamal invading me constantly and running away to chug like faggots

>>149275504
Trolling.
I invaded a bunch of Chameleon'd hosts in Depths in DS1.

>>149272112
Did that guy just do a fucking Marth Up-B at the end?

>>149270915
>>149271076
you got yourself a havelyn build

>co-oping abyss watchers
>host getting wailed on
Literally how? I've got two dudes on me, you only have to watch the one guy. They are easy as fucking hell to dodge.

>>149276982
they run into death if they get tired of waiting
I can wait just as well as they can
I'm not mad, I'm just calling people that do that pathetic losers lol

>>149277003
if that's motivation enough for you it's because you're a loser

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>>149272776
Typical HP pool of minmaxed, VIG capped build in DS2: 2500
Typical HP pool of minmaxed, VIG capped build in DS3: 1950
No shit they are doing less damage, Sherlock.

Also Miyazaki directed BB and BB had best STR weapons since DeS.
Reminder that the one who is to blame for majority of DS3's fuckups is Tanimura as he was heavily involved in balancing and online.

>>149275946
>your objective is to get to the boss fog
sounds to me like his objective is to piss you off so that you go nuclear baby mode and piss yourself like the pizza covered turbovirgin you are, and by the look of things it's working B)

>>149277086
that's fine as an invader
hosts are in no position to do so

>>149277162
I don't think you can, not with all the mad you are displaying. Plus, they can just go make a sandwich or watch some tv or something. If you do that as an invader, they can just slip by.

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>>149277003
>Nah, I've soloed the game enough times, there are no rules
This guy gets it.
Dark Souls isn't gentleman's fencing club. Well, you can set one up if you like, but don't expect random invasions to follow your rules.
You can do ANYTHING within the technical limits of the game without using third party programs and it's legit.

>>149277248
>No shit they are doing less damage, Sherlock.
And yet the faster weapons like straight swords are not. Checkmate.

>>149277292
that's a whole lot of projecting loser
you don't get to the boss fog you don't get anywhere

>>149277393
they risk dying just as much as anyone afking

>>149277442
Tanimura loves straight swords and other spammy shit so it's not surprising.

>>149277402
>Dark Souls isn't gentleman's fencing club.
It is now that Miyazaki ruined random invasions.

>>149277478
Not if they are smart, find a good hiding place, and pop a branch. You clearly aren't bright enough to find them.

>>149269861
>Not knowing the I-frames of your rolls was good
>UGS parries were good

Viper

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>>149277162
>Being this mad

Holy fuck I wish I could have seen this reaction all the times I've Fingered + White Branched in Farron and watched Reds desperately trying to find me for upwards of 15 minutes. Thanks anon, you've rekindled my desire to keep fucking with Reds.

>>149277506
>muh Tanimura bogeyman
>muh "Miyazaki didn't have anything to do with retarded design decisions even though he was the lead director of the game"
His name is at the top of the team credits so he holds full responsibility.

>>149277574
Nah, he fixed random invasions

>>149277248
>faster weapons do the same or more damage
>slower weapons do less
This is the problem here.

BB's strength weapons were garbage until the DLC added the pizza cutter, and even then it was gimmicky as fuck in pvp and relied more on lag than anything else to actually land hits.

>the one who is to blame for majority of DS3's fuckups is Tanimura as he was heavily involved in balancing and online.
Source: your ass. Well done, drone.

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>>149277574
>Miyazaki ruined random invasions
lol

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>>149277248
>BB had best STR weapons since DeS.
Of which there was like 3 (DBS / Greataxe / Greatsword)

Also, Demon's Souls wasn't yet cursed with the DaS1 playerbase that hosted meme fight clubs and tried to make Dark Souls into an esports.

>>149277402
Yeah. Honour is a joke. I don't invade at all, but I love getting invaded. It's a fucking thrill. It's ruined when the invader sends you a message afterwards bitching about muh honour. Shameful.

Also, fight clubs and duels are for dorks.

>>149277162
Care to explain the train of thought that leads to think I'm a loser?
As I said before, I can get to the boss fog without you even touching me with that ring combo and depending on the level I could just run around endlessly too. I've done so before Aldrich jumping around with cat ring from the area with knights only to repeat again endlessly.
I dare you to prove I couldn't just fight the boss to waste your time if I felt like.
It's actually interesting to finally have people complain about this tactic since I was starting to think only ganks could get to annoy people enough in 3.

>>149277672
>>149277593
I'd kick both your asses in pvp lol

>>149277601
Roll I-frames have literally never been listed in-game, you always had to wiki them; literally no difference since you can just wiki your iframes for your Agility.

There is literally nothing wrong with UGS parries, especially as they're worse than shield parries.

>>149277702
>>149277727
Educate yourselves you fucking plebs: http://www.gamespot.com/articles/dark-souls-3-director-talks-franchises-legacy-poss/1100-6441636/

>>149277727
>BB's strength weapons were garbage until the DLC
you'd best not be shit-talking my kirkhammer, boi

>>149277836
no you can't
I'd rather fight a gank than your pathetic ass
I welcome ganks
you're just cancer

>>149277248
Tanimura was in charge of DaS2 online and DaS2 had the best PvP in the series.
Okano fucked up DaS3 online.

>>149272028
What's wrong with Pontiff's and Oceiros' scores?

>>149277939
The Jokehammer was absolute ass and you know it.

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>>149277840
>Sh-shut up before I b-beat you up!

Holy shit, you have to be baiting, no one is this stupid.

>>149277727
>BB's strength weapons were garbage until the DLC
Saw cleaver is a STR weapon. As well as Hunter's Axe.

>>149277840
Bro, you couldn't even find me

>>149277727
>BB's strength weapons were garbage until the DLC
Not true. The Axe was a beast.

>>149276556
Actually, thinking about this, I can't name a game where the fast, speedy approach isn't considered the best compared to heavy and slow, except maybe some MMOs, where outspeeding those guys isn't that viable.

>>149277727
>'Garbage strength weapons prior to dlc'
>He didn't use the wheel

Fucking Vilebloods I swear

>>149277985
DS2' online was extremely hostile for random invasions. Even a process of just getting an orb required additional tedium. Only retarded arenafags are trying to defend that fucktard. He's the sole reason online components of both DS2 and 3 are fucked up.

>>149276661
>The level design of the Grand Archives is actually really good

I should have used my words more wisely.
The design is great I agree on that, but what I meant was that the level design would be ruined if there was a bonfire directly inside the archives even though it is full of shortcuts and would make a bonfire useless.

>>149276080
>memeazaki catches a holy water crucifix enema in a catholic church from a burly priest

its even more fitting

>>149277506
Looking at das3 i'd say that's memehacki's fetish

>>149278076
because you're such a scared little pussy

>>149278050
laugh more dumbass twat

>>149277975
I've done this in every from game, and I'll continue doing it when the next one comes. Try to prove you couldn't stop me from just running away if I wanted.

>>149278205
>DS2' online was extremely hostile for random invasions.
What does this even mean? Sure, the lack of a full red eye orb was fucking retarded and inexcusable, but once you were actually in the host's world the invasion experience itself was great.

>>149278363
It's just smart play. Hide until you are shitting your pants in rage, then slap your shit while you are busy dropping your spaghetti.

>>149276556
funny enough with the ease of use associated with fast weapons great and Ultra weapons have become the more skillful approach

fucking phenominal

>>149278080
It's easier to design gameplay around performing actions than around restricting actions. Slow-paced playstyles tend to always be inherently easier because their strengths are numerical rather than involved. Designing a slow-paced, restricted playstyle to be powerful in an environment with fast-paced, unrestricted playstyles while still representing a similar skill-ceiling is very, very difficult and often relies on simply forcing player-unfriendly timing requirements, like frame-perfect links, in order to try and provide even a little bit of substance to a playstyle that otherwise limits mobility and the ability to perform actions such as attacking or evading in favour of simply having bigger numbers.

>>149278020
>pve king
>the sheer versatility of all the different moves, including the ridiculous transformation combos
>the prediction games in pvp
I stand by my assertion that the Kirk is godly.
Its only flaw was the stamina consumption, which was no issue if you didn't fall for the "END IS USELESS" meme and applied stamina runes, and the patch that reduced its stamina consumption only fucked shit even more.

>>149278516
Zangief buffs when?

>>149278601
>R1 to L1 took literally 2 seconds to complete
>not a joke weapon

>>149278453
I always spawn ahead of you to the boss fog

>>149278485
delusion

>>149276237
Be strong, brother. I've been looking for this picture for quite some time now and haven't given up.
I'm even still looking for that one ecchi pic I had as desktop background when I was 13

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>>149278363
Oh believe me, I am. Your impotent, autistic rage gives me great pleasure. I hope you invade me in the future so I can waste more of your time and watch you make more angry pig squeals into this general.

>>149278601
>bringing pve into a discussion about weapon viability
lol.

>>149278473
>can't phase through enemies or use ANY contraptions and most of the lifts meaning you can't run away from ganks in places like iron keep if they just don't open the door leading into the level
>can't heal with consumables when host has 6 types of them on top of ability to summon 3 buddies including white phantom NPCs with 5k HP and infinite spells
>still has seed
>still has unlimited amount of summonable buddies
>lower speed and more punishable rolls mean that ganks are typically unwinnable

>>149278787
THIS
jesus fucking christ the rolls in 3 are a godsend for gankspanking

>>149278490
That's mainly because the game's balance is shit. Ultras still have a pathetically low skillcap because they just don't have much going on. It just so happens that top-tier meta weapons have a non-existent skill floor because they're just so statistically powerful. They still have a much higher skillcap, but of course 99% o the playerbase has no reason to reach towards that skillcap when the absolute bottomost player ability of simply mashing R1 or roll->L1 is enough to maintain a positive winrate.

Balance is poor, but once again it comes down to a matter of how do you make ultras meaningfully stronger without just inflating their damage. How do you increase their skillcap and how do you raise the skill floor of weapons that are meta-dominant without just making numbers bigger or smaller?

>>149278080
That's always the case. It's incredibly predominant in fighting games. The funniest part is when they try to meme cop-out with shit like >b-but he has hard combos, >b-but he has low stamina, >b-but he's hard to master, >b-but...
just look at kazunoko and infiltration dominating with low health high mobility characters for 4 years of SF4.

>>149278760
loser

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>>149278601
PvE king is the Whirly. In Vanilla, it was the LHB.

>>149278721
I grow more powerful with every delusion.
That is my power, I make the delusion truth.

>>149278721
And I can roll through every attack. That is if you're not unlucky enough to be in a level with mutiple paths to the fog wall or two bosses I could decide to face instead like cathedral or ruins/catacombs. Wouldn't it be much more fun to play hide and seek with me? I don't even seed so we have all time in the world for you to try and find me.

>>149278974
>Holy shit. My mom came into my room to bring me a plate of chicken nuggets and I literally screamed at her and hit the plate of chicken nuggets out of her hand. She started yelling and swearing at me and I slammed the door on her. I’m so distressed right now I don’t know what to do. I didn’t mean to do that to my mom but I’m literally in shock from my invasion tonight. I feel like I’m going to explode. Why the fucking fuck is he hiding? This can’t be happening. I’m having a fucking breakdown. I don’t want to believe PvP is so imbalanced. I want an invasion to believe in. I want my host to be honorable and fight me 1v1. I cannot fucking deal with this right now. It wasn’t supposed to be like this, I thought Miyazaki was directing this game???? This is so fucked.

>>149278787
>lower speed and more punishable rolls mean that ganks are typically unwinnable
Far harsher stamina costs for all actions counterbalance this. As opposed to DaS3 where the host and his buttbuddies can fuse together into an R1 blender since straight swords cost 0.1 stamina per swing.
Furthermore, lower speed means it's easier to focus down one person - this means a skilled invader vs a reckless group of host-and-phantoms is more likely to be able to kill the host, as opposed to DaS3 where the host is virtually invincible vs one invader by just spamming rolls forever.

Why are people talking about bloodborne when there's /bbg/? Who invited you guys back? Go post in your dying gen.

>>149278914
>godsend for gankspanking
>a smart host will literally never swing their weapon and will just spam rolls to become invincible while his phantoms R1spam together with enough frequency to catch you in your roll recovery frames

DaS3 punishes being outnumbered the worst out of all the Souls games.

>>149279215
cus ds3 is so shit we dont know what else to talk about

>>149278787
>>149278914
I had a much easier time dealing with ganks because rolls still meant death to those fucks taking turn trying to use their HP pool as attrition. WoG, Heavenly thunder, scraps and the other AoE spells made all the difference but in DS3 the only saving grace was abusing the iframes of hornet crits.

>>149279215
Like you said, it is dying. Both threads are slow enough to warrant recombining. It is also in the OP. Basically, deal with it.

And no, vandalizing the OP and taking it out won't stop people from talking about it.

>kill shitters in pvp
>turn around and spam stalk dung pies over their corpse
why hasn't this caught on yet
for how much from obviously tried to castrate "toxic" gestures, we got some pretty memetastic workarounds this time around.

>>149278921
The problem is that you can't. Ultras are reactionary weapons that thrive on your opponent making mistakes, higher level PvP has players who simply won't fall for them, so they have to flock to weapons that either get rewarded for acting, or are very good at punishing simplier mistakes. It' the same in other games that have characters who might have very strong combos or skills but hard to land, they'll be very useful against medium skill people since you can mindgame them into hitting those, but since you can't ever hit a UGS r1 unless your opponent lags or makes a mistake such as hitting you during HA or missing a roll, they'll never be good.
They could only be good if they stopped being what makes them ultra weapons.

>>149279417
>bitch about their dying gen
>go to another gen to bitch about gen game
Cancer senpai

OFFICIAL SOULS PROTAGONIST POWER CHART

Slayer of Demons - 4.5/10
>Literally who
>killed some demons
>worst weapon selection in series
>weak ass bitch
>only redeeming quality is /fa/ as fuck armor
Chosen Undead - 7.5/10
>has op as fuck stagger resistance t. poise
>serious backstab fetish
>slow as fuck
>did kill manus tho
Bearer of the Curse 9.5/10
>literally immune to all damage with Havel's +5
>can dualwield Avelyn's and literally one shot all the other protags
>iframes for days
>almost double the hp pool of all the other protags
>hexes
>shit miracles
>can heal for days tho t. life gems
>most likely to fall to death
The Good Hunter - 3/10
>extremely good at running away
>uses GUNS like a little bitch
>absolute pussy
>fuck healers though
>actually a worm the whole time
Ashen One - 10/10
>will one-shot riposte all other ptags
>can heal to full hp in half a second
>literally immune to all damage 1/4 the time t. dark milky carthus grain ring
>can get staggered like a bitch in armour made completely out of solid granite which would weigh at least half a ton if he gets scratched with a toenail clipping
>don't matter tho cuz 387 i-frames every time they roll
>easy as fuck to parry

>>149278924
Fighting games tend to favour things that way because they're all about momentum. High-tempo characters secure control of neutral more effectively, and slow characters tend to be forced to play the game of higher-speed characters and wait for an opening to counter. Letting the other person have momentum and then being forced to play a guessing game to turn the tide is inherently disadvantaged almost universally, because reversals are always higher-risk than pressure. When a slow character is top-tier, it's because their numbers are just so ridiculously high that it creates imbalance, and their competitive performance still tends to be a matter of "I get vortex'd to death" or "they make 1 human mistake and I win"

Souls is a little different because slow weapons don't get stuck sitting and blocking for 5 minutes wiating for a mistake, and instead the difference simply comes down to the fact that above a certain speed thresshold, you can guarantee that you will hit somebody if they stay close to you simply by attacking. If you roll into a longsword, they hit R1 again and catch you, no timing required. Below that speed thresshold, you have no answer whatsoever to rolling and since rolling is the game-defining aggressive and defensive action, you effectively cannot do anything except wait for another person to make a mistake so blatant that it completely prevents them from rolling long enough for you to land an incredibly slow and telegraphed punish. It's extremely dependent on the other player failing to perform actions competently because it has no real answer to competent control of a character. That lack of options is what makes ultras bad, but it also means that they inherently benefit less from the skill of their user because they c an never dictate the dance, only react to their opponent's moves and wait for a move which is punishable.

>>149279546
I don't even get what they did to gestures. They took out the best gems from all the other four games but still keep boring shit like Welcome, point down or clapping which are obviously meant for this purpose, but don't get the point across.

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>>149279616
You don't know how to use .t, please stop using it.

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>>149270937
same

>>149279616
Your bearer of the curse makes no sense. If he's still in the era of havelyns, how are miracles shitty? I mean WoG is still a thing and so is Tracking Bolt.

>>149278921
moveset versatility would help but we'll never see that

if stamina consumption were adjusted that would help. If recovery from attacks was decreased that would help. If speed was increased that would help. If stagger were made more drastic with ultras it would help. If stamina damage was increased it would help

like seriously though why should you be able to block r1r1l2r2 from a CGS with a medium shield and not get guard broken? and then the fucking recovery time is so long from the attack and the recovery time is so short from the guard break that you can't even manage to punish their shitty stamina management

basically outside of reworking the weapon class entirely, and not touching ar, youd need to be able to swing more, faster, and be able to recover from attacks more quickly. All the same gaps would still be punishable but would require more precise timing to execute instead of having literal fucking seconds to mosy over and hit someone with 4 r1s from a straight sword for 1k damage on a whiff punish

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>>149279729
>tfw they nerfed the welcome animation in Dork a souls 3

It looked good in Dark Souls 2 because it was longer

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Anyone able to help with Seath?
SL118, NG+
Can't seem to find any summon signs.

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Wait a minute, are those roots? Was that an arch tree?

>>149279824
it's a meme you dip

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>>149279865
WoG was fucking sex
>right arena
>bait people to the platform
>jump down
>fucker tries to follow with a jump attack
>WoG and hit them in midair
>Victory

>>149279983
It was still shit, just a poor man Well What is it?, in a game that had shrug, decapitate and no way, welcome was just boring.

>>149279616
Good Hunter can heal in an instant, and can literally parry every other Protag's heal attempts. Add in chalice gems, and she just steam roll every one. Only the DaS1 Protag stands a chance because of poise.

>>149279616
>can heal for days tho t. life gems
Do it correctly
>Life Gem
>Radiant Life Gem
>Old Radiant Life Gem
>Elizabeth's Mushroom
>Divine Blessing
>Monastery Charm
>Dragon Charm
>Dried Root
>Rouge Water
>Crimson Water
Ayy heals for EONS

DARK SOULS GENERAL

FIGHT CLUB

BOYFRIEND

PLAYSTATION FOUR?

>>149280097
Yeah, compared to those, it wasn't as good

>>149280187
Slayer of Demon's could out heal them.

can someone on pc drop me a darkdrift?

>>149280017
Looks more like pus of man sludge to me.

>>149280337
Just kill Yuria, you can also get mankin claws when her butthurt fuccb0i invades you too.

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>>149280234
I might be able to help.

>>149280006
>that character

That's cute anon, I'd help but can't because I only have the ps3 version. Get DSCM if you don't already at least.

>>149280309
hahahahaha
>Crescent restores 120 HP
>Half Moon Grass 240
>Late 400
>Full 600
>only New and Dark Moon Grass restores full HP
>meanwhile the smallest lifegem restores 500HP

in your dreams

>>149280467
yup I have that running all the time, everyone's fucking hollow

>>149278102
>1 R1 with wheel at 50 str
>500 dmg
>1 R1 with ludwigs at 50 str
>450 dmg

Ebin

>>149280439
hehe

nice one memeture ;)

>>149280435
i didn't do the quest and i don't wanna go to ng+ to get it and i don't want to level up

>>149280592
+0 or +10?

>>149272157
Scimitar is a good choice since it has good scaling and you only need 13 dex and 7 str.

so fags, which protagonist IS the most powerful then?

>>149280525
Except grass is retardedly quick to much and an instant heal. Why do you think the no healing rule was invented and so easily agreed upon?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rlkEH0ovDhs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tep18wSXNGA
If you aren't subscribed to this person you are a butthurt OnlyAfro fan.

>>149280625
I can upgrade it myself, also isn't darkdrift max +5 in DS3?

>>149280525
So that's two stacks of 99 instant full HP healing grass which is faster than even DaS3's estus

>>149280789
So is multiple lifegems, and you can poise through most attacks while using them, pop a few of old radiants and a liz shroom and you basically have a 100hp/s heal for 30 seconds

>>149280525
>implying SoD wouldn't have 999 of all grass types because it's an old PS3 game
>implying SoD wouldn't break everyone's poise/hyperarmor frames by demolishing them with HA trades and second chance
>then run away, eat grass, and second chance cast yet again

>summoned as a red
>host fighting red
>host attacks me
>red attacks host
>i attack host
>red attacks me

what the actual fuck?

>>149280856
No, titanite weapon. I'll login and wait for you at the highwall bonfire, pw is NOTHING

>>149279616
I think being able to parry from a distance puts Good Hunter up like 4 points

>>149279090
>projecting this hard

>>149281006
Oh, fuck me, it's actually not titanite. I mixed it with blackblade. I'm ashamed.

Why did Yuria want you to marry Anri when it's quite obvious that she hungered for your dick?

>>149279616
Slayer of demons has 99 darkmoon and 99 newmoon grass, along with second chance. Doesn't matter if he fucks up. (plus demon's has the coolest weapons)

>>149280797
But he is shit too.

>>149281160
she's a literal cuckold fetishist

>>149281151
Yeah, thanks anon

>>149281160
It's a political marriage, silly. She knows she's gonna get fucked on the side.

>>149280525
>Implying SoD didn't rudely walk away from Boldwin and then trick Stockpile Thomas into photocopying his grass to reach 99 in each

>>149281160
>some random bitch keeps praising you as lord
>tells you to marry anri
>tells you to kill orbeck

Yuria is a goddamn psychopath if that answers your question.

>>149281503
What do you even need a Darkdrift for

>>149281226
And CU has 99 Humanity and 99 Twin Humanity, 99 Elizabeth Mushrooms and 99 DBs
And Bearer has 99 lifegames, 99 Radiant Lifegems, 99 Old Radiant Lifegems, 99 Monastery Charms, 99 Elizabeth Mushrooms, 99 Dragon Charms, 99 Rouge Water, 99 Crimson Water, 99 Dried Roots and 99 Divine Blessings

>>149280789
Demon's pvp actually plays better with heals though, since you need to time your finishing combos better.

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>>149279301

tfw lost demon souls disc

>>149281576
you forgot that bearer of the curse has a phantom with 99 tokens of fidelity

You know, I've only just realized this, but the reason we got additional endings for each souls game after the first is because after each ending part of the first flame survives and that new ending becomes part of the cycle Aldia described. If you link the fire or let it fade then that will last until another "Chosen Undead" is sent to the kiln, if you steal the embers for yourself then when your body fails it will become another source of fuel for the first flame. Hell, the flame could probably even survive the Lord of Hollows ending in DS3, I mean it's survived being left to fade, being stolen and possibly having Gwyn piss on it, so a little something like the Unkindled One becoming the Lord of Hollows isn't gonna stop it from coming back.

>>149281567
Goddamn it, meant to quote >>149281458

>>149281576
>And Bearer has 99 lifegames, 99 Radiant Lifegems, 99 Old Radiant Lifegems, 99 Monastery Charms, 99 Elizabeth Mushrooms, 99 Dragon Charms, 99 Rouge Water, 99 Crimson Water, 99 Dried Roots and 99 Divine Blessings

Jesus Christ how horrifying.

>>149281335
Not actually. He just operates on a higher level of irony.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u7fKwcCbT0E

>introduce a friend to ds ds3 his first game
>uses a lothric ss for ng and ng+
>ask him if he has any other weapons upgraded to play around with
>i slabbed a farron gs
>ok that could be fun if you get good with it
>oh ive got a +10 dark sword as well

with 16 slabs hes +10 a lothric ss, farron memespin, and a dick sword. I have failed him

>>149280006
>magic damage
>against the grandfather of sorcery
this will definitely not blow on your face

>>149281691
what do i need it for?
NOTHING CAN DEFEND FROM DARKDRIFT

>>149279648
Blazblue's grappler has a mechanic that lets him pull opponent towards him. Though he still wasn't good until they made his number higher than other characters, but it does increase his skill ceiling.
For souls universal unreactable quick attack option that would give frame advantage would help.

>>149281920
>You can change weapons anon

>>149281964
Blazblue's grappler was also the objectively worst character in the game for like 6 consecutive games. His drive didn't really accomplish anything except bully new players, slightly extend the range on a few of his moves and give him more combo paths when he had you magnitized, which really just amounted to him doing normal damage when you were prepped, and doing abysmal damage when you weren't.

I like to google "drak suols" spelt wrong on purpose when I look something up from the wiki because I am legitimately autistic.

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>>149281862
Is he having fun?
That's the most important part.

I now have troll's remorse for demolishing new players in Sen's for having Drake Sword and Garg Helm when my friend said he would've given up on Dark Souls if it wasn't for the Drake sword.

>>149281736

I love this guy, he should upload another DaS video.

>>149282228
yeh I think he is. He's actually pretty hype about pvp too

>>149282162
just give him an air dash

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rdmfVyPrqcc
And this is why Armor of Thorns is best armor for PvP.

>DS2
>fight ancient dragon in ng+
>need to use repair powder twice

>DS3
>literally clear out the entire farron keep on ng+
>about 30 durabillity points lost

Make up your god damn mind, from.

Is there anything worse than a host with phantoms that runs away the entire time?

>>149282162
What are you talking about? His drive was always scary. Sure you can kite it pretty easily at long ranges, but when you're at medium range you would have to make right read to escape. He was garbage because magnetizing at close-to medium ranges is pretty hard. It's just that magnetizing at close to medium range is hard since opponent will never go at those range for more than half a second.

>>149282714
scrubs that whine on /vg/

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>>149282714
/dsg/ FCs

>>149282714
God-King Lucifer

>>149283103
hehe

nice one memeture ;)

>>149282714
Dark Souls 3's game design.

>he doesnt CE to try literally every retarded meme build out there
what a metaslave

>>149283103
May I ask why you has such an oddly specific reaction picture?

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>>149282702
Weapon durability was at it's best in DaS2.
DaS1 and DeS are okay too, and they're good for one weapon challenges where you go through the game without repairing your weapons.

>>149283103
How does one EMERALDO SPLASHU in Dark Souls 3?

What do if I have all 3 old king Crowns and already beat Nash?

I can use an ascetic but Idk where the fuck to find Aldia.

>>149283283
>he doesn't just CE all his stats to 99 and edit his level to be whatever gets the most activity and use literally anything he wants at the same time.

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>>149283337
You tell me.

>>149283407
Summon a phantom who does Soul Stream
Replace Soul Stream's texture with a green color

>>149283361
Final patched DaS2 Scholar, maybe. When they fixed the 60 FPS durability bug.
By that point, an experienced player who doesn't overswing would only run into durability issues in a full clear of No-Man's Wharf.

>>149283283
there's no need to try out, quality is the only good choice

>>149283361
II is really superior, in 1 you never needed it unless using Moonlight GS

>>149283283
delete this

>>149283414
The DLC crowns are essentially just postgame content. After you gather them, aliong with Vendrick's, and then talk to Vendrick in his memory to get the blessing, you're done.

If you want to fight Aldia and unlock the extra ending option, the only requirement is Vendrick being dead and Aldia's dialogue being exhausted in the last primal bonfire, Undead Crypt and Dragon Shrine. However, if you've already killed Nashandra and done the credit-roll, you need to ascetic her bonfire and refight Thronebros and her. If the conditions are met, Aldia will emerge and challenge you right after Nash dies and killing him will unlock the alternate ending option.

>>149283525
>When they fixed the 60 FPS durability bug.

I want this meme to die.

>>149283521
>you tell me

hmmm..Okay. You saved this picture because you thought it was funny (and like jojo I guess), but considering how specific this picture is you just post it where you want instead of waiting for the right opportunity. That's just what I think

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>tfw no Well, What is it
>tfw no Pumped Up
>tfw no Decapitate
>tfw no Shrug

Why live?

>>149283525
There's also New Game+ which ups the hp of mobs and bosses so you might run into some durability trouble there. Or if you're using katanas, as those have less durability.
Or no-bonfire runs.

Considering DS3 only has 1 thing specifically made to damage equipment that doesn't even work in PvE(or does it, can you damage enemy NPCs' equipment in any of the Souls games?) it's just disappointing how the only way even theoretically to break your equipment is to do a NG+7 run using only a katana or Stormruler. In DaS1 at least the special weapons consumed a lot of hitpoints with their attacks.

>>149284619
>Pumped Up

I miss this one.

>>149284619
I really miss pumped up.
You could use it at almost any time, it was so versatile.

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>>149283885
You're half right.

>>149284619
>no Look Skyward
>no Righty-ho!
>no No way
truly why...

>>149284619
>tfw no DaS1 point down

>>149283361
Having your weapon break so quickly from using it in the proper way completely ruins the flow of the game.

>smashing a weapon against rocks is somehow better for it than hitting enemies

>>149273564
>PARRY GOD

>>149284619
>>149285310
All that shit doesn't matter.
>No mock.
Now that's tragedy.

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>>149285439
Unless the enemy is a rock, then your weapon breaks in 4 hits

I'm looking at you, Sinh

>able to walk while waving
feels good tbqh lads

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>>149284619
Don't forget the greatest wasted opportunity of them all

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>>149285439

Well, that was for game reasons I think, because you'll often hit walls in the course of hitting enemies and you'd be double-dipping each time you did that if walls were more damaging.

But in doing that, come to think of it, they missed out on an interesting game mechanic in that it would've been the first Souls game to make you care about hitting your target and only your target, rather than slashing your straight sword through bricks without a care.

I think overall the DS2 approach to weapon durability was utter shit because of how upgrades work in Souls games and it just being an irritant in the course of fighting and exploring, but that could've theoretically been interesting and if they thought of taking that out they really should've just taken out the whole mechanic.

>>149285628
anon just said shrug

>>149281736
what the fuck did i just watch

>>149285672
>Tanimura actually bragged in one of the pre-dlc interviews that the Sunken King dlc would break your weapon.
He's a right cunt.

Any tips for a greathammer user against quicksteppers? And how does anyone deal with a spear user who plays defensive?

>>149285915
but mock and shrug convey two different emotions, anon

>>149285942

He seems like the true sadist that Miyazaki is often accused of being.

>tried out M+KB controls in ds3
>realize that they somehow get worse with every souls game

What the hell is this garbage? Hold shift and click a mouse button to either do a strong attack or parry? jesus

>>149286072
>greathammer v quickstep

There is nothing you can do with a greathammer. Either try and parry them when they eventually go for the r1 out of quickstep, or stock up on rope black firebombs and just casually drop a few on those faggots as they slide up to you

>>149286072
You don't, for both.
Against quickstep daggers, never swing. Just play passively and wait our their FP. Every time you hit R1 you give them free damage against you.

Against spears, just stay close and keep rolling into them, being careful to actually time your rolls and not just mash it. They'll eventually get antsy and fall into a pattern and then you can surprise them. Otherwise, you can't do anything to them.

>>149286203
This really isn't the series to use KBM.

>>149269849
Takes one to know one, and I hadn't even noticed.

>>149269861
Waste of a post

>>149281736

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4f5fNtJS2mk