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Yu-Gi-Oh! General #2246 - Kaiba meta soon Edition
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First for SPYRALS
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>We are now living in the era of Kaiba

We are truly not worthy. Thank you Kaz sensei.
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UNTIL YOU FUCKING LIKE IT !
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>>149122157
THANK YOU KAZ SENSEI
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I haven't had a console in ages and I haven't had a tier 1 Yugioh deck in YEARS. I have around $500 to spend either on a console or a tier 1 deck this coming August, should I buy the console or the deck?

I've always used to be a one game a year kind of guy so I'd only buy 1 game for it, but I really want to play meta since I haven't played in real life in years, either with blue eyes, ABC or metalfoes.

PRO TIP: No I don't want to ask /v/, yes I value your opinions on this.
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>>149122130
are SHIT

All that fucking hype for nothing
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>>149122130
Who wants to bet there'll be a bunch of other Agents with "This card's name becomes "SPYRAL Super Agent" while on the field or in the Graveyard" in their effects
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>>149122130
Which Spyral was supposed to imitate a forbidden card?
>>149122290
Go for the cards, $500 for one vidya a year is retarded.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rF4MnKQxTWo
me irl rn
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>>149122365
The one that is clearly a slightly (SLIGHTLY) better Premature Burial
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>>149122365
I'm guessing the car is meant to be like Premature Burial.
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>>149122365
The car.
It's Premature Burial.

>>149122408
>slightly
You can't bounce it, it's shit.
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>mfw I got it wrong
fug
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>>149122365
>$500 for one vidya a year is retarded
I played Halo 3 everyday from 07 to 2010, I usually stick to 1 or 2 games without getting bored.

If it weren't for Konami's surprise ban lists all the time I'd go for the cards, believe me.
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>>149122506
you can bounce it, it's just opt
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I don't have any hype for either of the new archetypes. My hype is going to Darklords.
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>>149122290
I would only buy a console if it has 5-10 games in it that I would play, unless the one game you buy is really what you will play all year.
I wouldn't recommend playing meta after years of not playing IRL, though ABC is rather cheap; 3 SD, some of the new gadgets, R4s, staples and side deck.
Metalfoes' main deck is probably cheap too, there's a rumor that Bunbuku is getting reprinted, so you only had to worry about the extra.
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>>149122521
I thought it would be Sangan
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>>149122867
>unless the one game you buy is really what you will play all year.
It is. I hate single player games.
The good thing about ABCs being cheap to build is that I can buy some cool mats, deck boxes, etc that I need with the leftover money. Thanks mate.
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Would be such a nice format!
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When will we find out if ABC is legal for worlds? I mean they're great and all but it doesn't feel right if Blue-Eyes doesn't win and they'll have a much better chance with no ABC.
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>>149123398
>Stratos at 3
>Shadow Mist at 3

Hell fucking no
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>>149123534
I thought they wouldn't be as good because they can't compete with Kozmos or Monarchs ;^)
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>>149123534
Tell me one broken thing the deck is going to do? Remember Bubbleman is at 1 with this.
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Anyone order a DSOD box? How much did you pay for them? I'm thinking of buying one.
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>>149123398
>People are STILL bootyblasted about Monarchs and Demise
>When a tier 1 R4NK deck is about to be imported and D/D/D is coming to kill any petdeck harder than Kozmo

Loving the laughs at people who think limiting Stormforth and Pantheism is anything more than a fatal blow against Monarchs
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>>149123398
>banning Card of Demise
You sounds like a scrub.
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>>149123602
I didn't notice Bubbleman was at 1.
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>>149123398
> banning macro & DFissure
Oh well at least I get to play Nekroz with most of the stuff.

> 3 prep of rites

Nekroz format.
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>>149123398
>Cir, Demise, Macro, D. Fissure, Skill Drain, Emptiness
>Banned

Another petdeckfag, another fucking shitty banlist wishlist. We need to get into another argument quick so the thread can move on from this bullshit. Where's Quillbolt anon when you need an easy scapegoat to get BTFO?
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>>149123840
when you immediately started bitching about petdecks it wasn't hard to figure out who this was
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>Red Stone of Legend
>Force Strix
>Navigation and Circle

Why does Tewart like killing Petdecks?
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>>149123898
There you are, you still upset that your shitty tech isn't seeing play any where?
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>>149123648
Honestly I don't believe stormforth needs hit, but I do think panthism does, it's too good. Demise is just too cancerous and shouldn't exist like other cards on the banlist.
>>149123673
Scrubs are the ones that play demise decks bud, takes no thought to potentially win.
>>149123770
Nekroz got power creeped no reason to keep them hurt really, floodgates are bad for the game when their 1 of's.
>>149123840
B.A has been the longest lasting tier 1 deck ever in the meta it needs hit sorry. The floodgates that are at 1 on the banlist either need banned or bumped up, I don't care which honestly.
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>>149123951
>Nekroz got powercreeped
No they fucking didn't. Full power Nekroz would fucking destroy the current meta, and even July 2015 Nekroz would still be able to compete.
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>>149123951
Demise is balanced, and makes stun-based decks Semi-relevant instead of being completely useless.

Pantheism is also 100% necessary for Monarchs. They brick hard as shit even with it as 3.
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>>149123951
>Nekroz got power creeped
Nigger do you not know how fucking powerful Nekroz was? Unicore alone destroys at least 50% of the upcoming meta, quit being fucking stupid
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>>149123951
>Scrubs are the ones that play demise decks bud, takes no thought to potentially win.
So you want to ban Demise because yo ucan't win against them? Sounds like you're the scrub.
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>>149124071
Nekroz wouldn't win against PePe at full power I can guarantee that. Also Nekroz has a hard time with kozmo which would still be playable just not like it is now. It might be too good, I just don't think it would be.
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So are they gonna release more darklords or this is it? Any interesting, good darklord deck yet?
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>>149124187
"potentially win" I beat some, I lost to some. You can't do anything when they just have demise every turn. free +2 is too good.
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>>149124226
> Also Nekroz has a hard time with kozmo
Nekroz at near full power? No they fucking don't you idiot, Kozmo legit always had trouble dealing with Nekroz because Trishula ruins ALL of their shit. Bitch did you even PLAY that time what the fuck?
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>>149124342
>You can't do anything when they just have demise every turn. free +2 is too good

You could Twin Twister it when it's set on the field, you retard.
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>>149124226
>Nekroz wouldn't win against PePe at full power I can guarantee that.
False, it's just a matter of who's going first.
In any case, once Nekroz successfully dropped Unicore, Pepe auto loses.

>>149124342
>free +2 is too good.
In exchange they have to run shit decks, git gud.
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>>149124501
Win due to rng great plan. Enjoy sacking the fuck out of your opponent.
>>149124383
Yeah I did play at the time. http://yugiohtopdecks.com/tournament/YCS+-+San+Jose That's the last ycs nekroz had before the hits in which kozmo were out.
>>149124510
How does that mean they win? PePe just makes 1 monster that can beat over unicore, and if it get's valk'd w/e they just pend 5 every turn and stall like a bitch until nekroz is out of resources... Also 1 card of demise is dealable with 2 sometimes 3 is extremely hard. Sorry.
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>>149124226
>>149124226
>Trish and Valk
Nekroz can deal with Kozmo just fine. As for PePe, that deck died after a week, and Nekroz can just go first and drop a Unicore. gg ez
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An idea I got.

- Use Tri-Wight to summon a Flamvell Guard and 2 Galaxy Serpents from the graveyard.
- Summon Beast of the Pharaoh.
- Synchro for a level 5 with a GS with Beast, Beast revives itself.
- Synchro again for a level 5 with a GS with Beast, Beast revives itself.
- Synchro with Flamvell with Beast for Phonon Pulse Dragon. Make it a level 2 and Beast summons itself again.
- Synchro for Quasar.

Another thing, the Chemical Beasts are Normal monsters in the graveyard and Carbon Crab is Aqua.

With a little setup you can use Tri-Wight to make Treatoads in a Chemical Beast deck.

Maybe Dark Doriado could help with setup.
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>>149124916
Are you seriously comparing gimped, nearly legless Nekroz which still ran rampant through the format to FULL POWERED NEKROZ as an even somewhat decent comparison? You're a fucking idiot, Kozmos did well in that event sure, but you have to be a special kind of moron to compare that version of Nekroz, with ONE (1) Shurit, no Releaser, ONE (1) Prep to the version that had all of that in spades and honestly convincing yourself that Kozmos could compete with it at all
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>>149124916
There's also Big Guy and Gungnir besides Valk to assist Unicore.
>pend 5 every turn and stall like a bitch until nekroz is out of resources
And the Nekroz player will just Trish'ing your scales or use Releaser as a tribute material.
You're seriously underestimating full power Nekroz.
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>>149125183
I'm comparing the nekroz that'd be on the banlist I posted to the kozmo that'd be on the banlist I posted. Which the nekroz is basically the same while the kozmo is stronger than it was their is what you're failing to understand here.
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>>149124916
>The opponent always has his 3-ofs
>But I never have mine

What is this self-hating shitposting? The chance of the opponent having Card of Demise is exactly the same as you having a Twin Twisters.
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>>149122013
>kaiba meta
lmao
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>People think ABC will be eligible for Worlds

2015 Worlds happened right after CORE came out and it was illegal for worlds. Same thing is happening here. Blue-Eyes is safe.
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>>149125276
Players that played releaser were bad I don't even consider that a card when thinking of full power. They can't keep trishing every turn, and I will probably always have scales unless they get every good hit in my hand with trish too.
>>149125353
I never implied that... You read stuff bad. I'm just saying Card of Demise is like most other cards on the banlist and just unhealthy for the game. It's pretty rare for demise decks to actually see all 3 of it.
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>>149125297
>TRIPLE FUCKINF PREP NEKROZ WOULDN'T DECIMATE LIMITED DARK DESTROYER KOZMO

Fucking stupid m8
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>>149124916
Are you actually trying to argue that Kozmo stands a fucking chance against pic related? Really?
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>>149125558
>Win due to rng great plan. Enjoy sacking the fuck out of your opponent.

This applies to BOTH parties. But apparently you drawing your outs is less likely than them drawing their situational, heavily restricted +2 because you want to put Demise on the banlist over something like fucking Solemn Strike.
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Reminder that full power EMEm is the strongest deck in the games history.
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>>149125578
It had issues with 3 forerunner so yeah. Kozmo also has dark planet, dark eclipser, (which don't see play) and Dark Lady now. Which can all hurt nekroz.
>>149125698
Um take djinn off that, put shurit to 1, rota to 1, brio at 2, unicore at 2, and you can play what ever you like over those and sure. Like my list implies
>>149125774
Strike isn't that good honestly, it's only good against pendulms mainly. Doesn't deserve hit. You just don't realize demise is cancerous to the game.
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>>149125461
>a product got its release date rushed for no reason
Difference is CORE was garbage at the time and isn't a structure deck
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>>149125558
>Players that played releaser were bad I don't even consider that a card when thinking of full power.
(You) sounds like a bad player.

>They can't keep trishing every turn
>with unlimited Shurit and Prep

>and I will probably always have scales unless they get every good hit in my hand with trish too
>I will always have the correct scales but you can't do shit

Just stop, I know you love Pepe very much, but most extra deck based decks auto lose to Nekroz most of the time, Nekroz is THE anti extra deck deck, Monarchs too, but they lacked the consistency.
How are you going to keep having scales if you can keep going pend 5?
Nekroz player can also summon Gungnir for additional disruption of your scales.
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>>149122867
>there's a rumor that Bunbuku is getting reprinted

Like almost everything good from CORE to BOSH is in the Megatins.
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>>149125936
Give me your definition of "cancerous to the game".
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>>149125558
>They can't keep trishing every turn
>They can't keep trishing every turn

Obviously never played or played against Nekroz and is just a fake oldfag. Any decent Nekroz players that WANTED to Trish could and would Trish you if you let them, and as many times as they needed to.

Time to stop posting
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>>149123898
I miss the good old days when autistic freaks loved electric hedgehogs with that innocent charm, instead of hating electric hedgehogs and bringing them up for literally no reason, and trying to relate banishing with petdecks somehow
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>>149125993
I mean as a super in the tin.

>>149126041
Reminder that you can also run Enterblathnir for extra banishing.
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>>149126067
yellow hedgehogs, close enough
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>>149125934
This is ignoring consistent FTKs right?
Rulers + PePe are literally the best non-ftk decks
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>>149126067
>>149126169
electric hedgehog pokemon

I can't believe I actually remember that one.
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>>149125936
>Strike isn't that good honestly, it's only good against pendulms mainly. Doesn't deserve hit. You just don't realize demise is cancerous to the game.
You think strike isn't good because "it only hurts 1 deck" yet you think demise is cancer when it only helps 1 deck
nigga what?
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>tfw you said two words and everybody comes in to defend what you said
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>>149126201
Frog burn would lose if they drew one of their THREE (3) Maxx "C" or one of their THREE (3) Damage Juggler
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>>149126067
You realize that the drama behind Quillbolt and the anon who kept bringing it up is because said anon was absolutely belligerent about how actually good Quillbolt was and how it was totally a meta card that OCG somehow overlooked despite getting no results and then after getting proven wrong dozens of times retracted on those claims and pretended he was just an innocent petdeck player all along?

Honestly if people would just generally stop being obnoxious about the shit that they play and be a little more open to criticism we wouldn't get thread and a half long arguments over stupid shit now would we?
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>>149126272
sonichu is real now
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>>149125987
Gungnir was also bad, I beat every nekroz player I ever played that played djinn with my list that didn't play djinn sorry. Not sure if you've read performapal pendulum sorceror but it basically lets me search my scales... Rip you thinking I can't.
>>149126003
Cards that just generate unfair advantage. Like it's stipulations make it seem like it wouldn't do that, but the decks that play it actually make it work to where it does.
>>149126041
Been playing since I was 7 in 2002. I think you were just on the recieving end of nekroz and think they could always just trish when they wanted. They could most of the time, but not every time. Also once there out of cycles/shurit there won't be anymore trish. If they actually get lucky enough to keep having prep I guess they might win. Prep wasn't searchable.
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>>149125936
Would still ruin Kozmo's day.
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>>149126469
>Kaiju Nekroz
>even if your opponent doesn't have anything in the grave you can tribute their shit and FORCE them to have something in the grave and then Trishula their shit

How will Kozmofags ever recover
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>>149126371
what does that have to do with macro and fissure though
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>>149126469
Kaijus disgust me on a metaphysical level.
Getting Lava Golem'd is bad enough but an entire archetype of Lave Golems is proof there is no God, or if there ever was, he's long since abandoned us.
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>>149126201
>This is ignoring consistent FTKs right?
Obviously, FTK decks aren't even a deck, it's just a RPS.

Pepe is stronger than DRAGONS because they are newer, if DRAGONS got the equivalent good cards of R4, DRAGONS would be stronger.

>>149126447
>Gungnir was also bad, I beat every nekroz player I ever played that played djinn with my list that didn't play djinn sorry.
Just keep on lying, you've already shown that you've never seen or played full power Nekroz.
>Not sure if you've read performapal pendulum sorceror but it basically lets me search my scales
Oh, and I didn't draw any outs against it huh?
That's cool, reminder that any monster SS'd from the extra deck are negated by Unicore, including pendulum monsters.

This is my last (you).
Git gud scrub.
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So Sub Terrors only got two monsters, and a field card?
Guess you won't even be able to build a pet deck with them until the end of the year or something.
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>>149126447
>Cards that just generate unfair advantage. Like it's stipulations make it seem like it wouldn't do that, but the decks that play it actually make it work to where it does.

I see. Yet, cards like Monkeyboard, or Pendulum Sorcerer, or Skullcrobat, or Pot of Cupidity, or even Maxx fucking C, are okay? Because Monkeyboard is an instant scale, Sorcerer is straight broken, Skullcrobat is an upgraded Stratos, Cupidity is LITERALLY Pot of Greed with a hard OPT, and Maxx C gives you the potential to go +9. Why not ban any of these cards?
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>>149126562
Don't forget that Slumber gives you a Level 9 body to overlay with Trish so you can banish their shit up again.
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>>149126643
>Getting Lava Golem'd is bad enough but an entire archetype of Lave Golems is proof there is no God, or if there ever was, he's long since abandoned us.
my fucking sides hahahaha
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>>149122157
thank you kaz sensei
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>>149126698
3.
All of them are different types.
There goes the idea of using the flip rocks and Sentry.
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>>149126802
>3.
They've got the big guy and the little guy. Whose the third?
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>>149126762
Don't get me wrong, I've accepted the fact that they're a thing that exists and will continue to.

But that doesn't help change the fact that every time I get something Kaiju'd I materialize enough salt from imaginary space that I'm certain I'd be able to dry up an entire ocean with it.
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tfw you run nobleman of extermination

tfw you banish all of your opponents solemn notice's
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>>149126914
The other Big Guy. It's a Rock. And if you already know the rock, it's the Reptile
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>>149126935
I feel you man, i used to absolutely hate kaijus until i went up against a chaos MAX deck and i had no outs. That's when i added 2 gameciels to my main deck in every deck that can't go over 4k atk
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>>149126914
The LV7 reptile with hard OPT >targeting banishment and reverse Trish's stats.
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>>149126935
I think you may need to google what saltwater is, anon
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>>149126943
>when you hit their set Card of Demise

>>149126935
Konami needs to make more cards that can GTFO off the field at will like Omega.
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>>149127024
Oh, I use them in a few decks too.

>>149127041
It's salt from the imaginary space, shit's different from other salts.
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Subterror Behemoth Umastryx = secret ghostrick tec?
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>>149126387
>A Trump Rattata clone
>Sonichu

At some point I expect a Dark/Fighting evolution of Bewear Bane reference
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>tfw your burger frogs are now called paleo frogs
doesnt sound nearly as delicious.
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>>149126943
>Nobleman-eater bug
>dies to Nobleman
Why.

>>149127110
>Extermination hitting a Spell Card
Do you read the card?
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>>149127117
Does it transmogrify the water into salt? Does it demolish the water particles and leave only the salt? You need to define it, friend.
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>PSY-Frame Multi-Threader is out of beta
Time to troll Checkmate lads
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>>149127295
Why else would there be a Nobleman of Extermination if not to exterminate these face-down bugs that eat them?
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>>149127327
It's not up yet.
Can't wait to use Metal Zings in checkmate.
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>>149127310
I don't know, it probably has something to do with following the water flow's ley lines.
To begin with, materializing outworldy salt isn't very normal so it's not like it's easy to go outside and test how exactly does it work on stuff.

I have a friend who can explain this.
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Is it just me or did they change Tristan and the Pharaoh's VAs randomly early on in the series?
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>He thought Spyrals would be good
Tewart apologists you can walk yourselves out now.
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>>149127269
Tewart must pay for his sins.
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>>149127427
Extermination ironically can't kill bugs. Crossout is the one that can. And he's probably most likely just a common Noble.
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>>149127512
Tristan yes. Yugi no. He just needed to get into his role.
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>>149127554
Why does he laugh like that?
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>>149127512
>Le_slow_pokemon.jpg
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>>149126725
Maxx c is fair because your opponent can just choose to not be retarded and not push through it if he doesn't have game. Skullcrobat is just stratos. Sorceror destroys 2 adds 2 your jot plusing also its only on ss. Eh I partially agree monkey needs banned but than I'd have to say scout needs banned. I wouldn't be sad if monkey/scout was banned though.
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>open nothing but superbias, tezs, zeratos and revival spells or traps

will there be more support?
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>>149127731
>Sorceror destroys 2 adds 2 your not plusing
>what is Plushfire
>what is Ariadne
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>>149127731
>Maxx c is fair because your opponent can just choose to not be retarded and not push through it if he doesn't have game.

Demise is fair because your opponent can draw 3 monsters and have to discard them all.

>Skullcrobat is just stratos

Yes, it's a copy of a banned card for a better archetype.

>Sorceror destroys 2 adds 2 your jot plusing also its only on ss

If your cards don't hit the graveyard and are still resources you can access, like Pendulum monsters, you don't have to give up anything. You go straight +2 on a Special Summon of a 3-of, and it's not even a fucking random +2 like Card of Demise.

Stop being salt about an extremely niche card. Card of Demise can only be played in 1 or 2 decks that aren't even at the meta level.
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>>149127269
>Paleozoic
I would have preferred just "Burgess" but it's okay. Better than what happened to poor old Mahad.
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>>149127664
>Mfw the Poke in Slowpoke stood for Pokemon
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>>149128012
konami please give us potassium mana and cesium kisara
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>>149127327
Is there a reason why Checkmate doesnt appear when choosing servers?
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>>149127731
>thinks Sorcerer is fair and not a plus
The fuck
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>>149127979
Those are not sorceror so they have nothing to do with him. Nor does he search them. If you have both good job.
>>149128006
Thats some good logic behind sorceror unlike the other retard. I did say put it to 1 I think that's fair for it. I'm not going to keep going on about demise, but you are probably going to be devastated when it gets banned.
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>>149128326
He's an idiot and he's been getting destroyed this entire thread. I love how he gave up on the "oh man Kozmo would totally beat Nekroz under my special snowflake banlist" once he realized Kaijus were still a thing though
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>>149127269
>>149128012
Are you fucking kidding me? They're Cambrian era fossils, what the fuck.
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>>149128409
I didn't give up I just quit caring. You are going to hurt nekroz consistency adding those kaiju cards which is pretty important to the deck. I've just came to the conclusion most of /vg/ are scrubs at yugioh.
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>>149128403
Find me one card on the banlist that wasn't, at one time, defining to the meta or part of some dumb FTK.

Card of Demise is neither, and thus has no reason to EVER be banned.
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Quick, share your most memetastic Demise decks to piss salty anon off.
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>>149128606
Pot of greed, graceful charity, premature burial, giant trunade, heavy storm, forceful sentry, consfication... Don't say these are part of ftks when there not problem cards.
>>149128693
I don't care that much.
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I didn't even give this one an Extra Deck.
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>tfw summon Galaxy-Eyes Dark Matter, and powered it up to 13,000 ATK with only 400 LP left

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n2bMV0DItuQ
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>>149128836
That WASN'T defining the meta you stupid idiot, please learn to read. Every single card you listed there defined the meta to a fucking T. There's a reason Charity, Greed, and Duo were referred to as the holy trinity back in GOAT format. Fucking fake oldfags GET OUT
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>>149128836
>Pot of Greed, Graceful Charity, Heavy Storm, Forceful Sentry, Confiscation

Defining to the Goats meta, dumbass.

>Giant Trunade, Premature Burial

Part of dumb loops that can form FTKs.
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This is the most balanced deck of all time. Literally punishes players for running unfair cards.
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>>149128836
Did you not read the "defining to the meta" part?
>Pot of Greed, Graceful Charity
Two of the most meta-defining cards of all-time. Why do you think people refer to those two and Duo as "The Trinity"?
>Premature Burial
Infinite loops with Dewloren/Grandsoil shenanigans, generally a better Monster Reborn.
>Giant Trunade and Heavy Storm
Have you actually played a format with Heavy? Nobody ever set more than 1 backrow. Trunade is even dumber because of infinite loops as well as saving your own S/T.
>Forceful Sentry and Confiscation
Were pretty much maxed when possible.
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>>149127731
>Maxx c is fair because your opponent can just choose to not be retarded and not push through it if he doesn't have game.
And not doing anything isn't retarded?
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>>149128989
I guess you can consider power cards defining I don't. Trunade and premature can help with Otis sure but there not the otk cards that should be hit instead. I do agree these need banned since burial can be bounced and reused without destoring its monsters, and trunade is unfair since there not any real good cards that can stop it. Also would be broke with pendulums.
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>>149129067
Don't mind me, just doing sick scooter tricks all over your deck.
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>>149127121
Mite b cool
>if there's a level 6 then the summon from hand effect gives tricks an easy to run level 6 to make Dragulas
Please please please
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>>149128606
because it's a degenerate skill less card that generates unfair advantage
it needs to be banned for the same reason pot of greed is banned
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>>149129191
>I guess you can consider power cards defining I don't

ALL those things were the fucking backbone of those decks. Drawpower out the ass, destroying the opponent's resources and swinging for game. Jesus christ, have you ever seen a Goats deck?

>Trunade and premature can help with Otis sure but there not the otk cards that should be hit instead.

Guess what, the cards that they functioned the FTK with are also banned.

With the sole exception of Chicken Game, which is a contributor to FTKs in a minor capacity and definitely should return, every card on the banlist was meta-defining or forms part of a degenerate, unstoppable combo. Card of Demise is fucking neither! It'll never get hit.
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>>149129213
would be a good card if you could search it against me
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For all of you who play the game in real life or collect the actual cards, do you think the price of Blue-Eyes Chaos MAX Dragon and Neo Blue-Eyes Ultimate Dragon will rise or fall in the upcoming days?
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>>149129370
>every card on the banlist was meta-defining or forms part of a degenerate, unstoppable combo.
Not even close.
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>>149129430
Everything will be fucking expensive at first, so wait a few weeks before buying them.
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>>149129415
>needing to search when you can excavate
None of your Barrier Statues are searchable anyway ;)
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>>149129327
>Unfair advantage

>Has to have a 0-card hand to draw 3 cards
>Has to discard their entire hand that turn
>Can't deal damage
>Can't Special Summon

These are the drawbacks that make this card BALANCED, retard. This isn't unfair, it's perfectly balanced. 3 extra cards, at the cost of potentially discarding all three of them, not being able to play the game or hurt your opponent and already having to be in a 0-card situation. Two Twin Twisters and whoever played it now has NOTHING. Denko Sekka summoned and they have NOTHING. Jesus fucking Christ how bad at this game are you.

>>149129435
Example?
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>>149129472
I've noticed that before but I'm worried because of what's happened before with things like Odd-Eyes Vortex Dragon and Odd-Eyes Fusion doubling or tripling in price in a few days
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>>149129571
you seem a bit hot and bothered
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The meta
>floaty, otking, and plussing archtypes that have constant plays and ways to gain advantage with searchable cards that make for a consistent and powerful build
Cards of demise
>An spell that is not conveniently searchable that only provides advantage to slow stun like builds relying on traps in a meta where twin twister, mst, denko sekka, other cards like that exist on top of meta archetypes having floaters and multiple play making cards every turn that may or may not blow up a card

If you think for a second that card of demise is OP you need to take your head out your ass.
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TAG WHEN
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>>149123398
>e tele
At least give my super quants a chance

:(
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>>149129576
That's because Vortex and Fusion were used in Pendulum Magician first and then in Dracopals Odd-Eyes.
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I've been messing around with the ratios for my Masked HERO deck, and I think I've gotten it close to ideal. I was skeptical of adding back Miracle Fusion but holy fuck Absolute Zero with Dark Law is brutal, especially now with 3 Bubbleman I can make it pretty much every time I draw it. I bumped Acid and Charge up to 2 for that very reason. I want to make space for a third CotH, might cut Treacherous but it's proven way too good against Synchro/Xyz spam decks.

Thoughts, /dng/?
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>>149130276
looks solid, but most lists i see run 3 coth. 3 dark bribe? whys that?
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>>149130276
Running classic Mirror Force is excusable in any deck except Dark Law Turbo, but I'd still think about replacing them with Storming.
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So DSOD boxes are going for $65 right now. Will they drop in price below $50 or should I just go ahead and buy a box? I want everything in the set.
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>>149130380
Changing TT and Melody into -1.
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>>149130380
Forces them to draw so I can banish from their hand with Dark Law.

>>149130401
I'm fine with destruction as long as nothing floats. I've got Abyss Dweller as backup in case I can't make Dark Law. I don't think there's any card in YGO that has protection from battle, targeting and effect destruction all at once.
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>>149130276
Replace Dark Bribe with Solemn Strike. Mirror Force isn't good, run the third COTH and two Storming or something. Replace MST with other TT.
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is this how you're supposed to do a darklord dick?
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>>149129543
got me ;(
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Do we need to get a retarded anon every night?

Before we had quillbolt anon, later "ocg doesn't matter lol" anon, sometime after "netdecking is bad" anon and tonight we got "kozmo defeat full power nekroz XD" retarded anon
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>>149130840
Not really, but pretty good filename, I like to call them like that too.
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>>149130840
No allure
1(one) of each trap
No trade in

Wut
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>>149130978
hello ygodrcuck
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Is it true?

Are we gonna be ABC meta on Aug.?
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>>149130978
Seriously stop complaining. These threads move at lightspeed when we actually have something to argue about. Otherwise its dumb banlist trolling or Yuya/waifu image dumps. Bring more retards

>>149131136
Like this one. Hello Quillbolt anon, still backpedaling on how good Quillbolt actually is in Frogs?
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>>149131303
I thought that "quillbolt anon" was referring to you, since, you know
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>>149130840
This is what I've been trying for a while now.
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>>149131228
>ABCs
>Before D/D/Ds
I am actually excited for ABCs. But you've got no idea how much this bothers me.
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>>149130978
>daily retard hour
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>>149131365
im the guy who suggested that quillbolt is good in this certain situation, due to being instantly detachable and resummonable with its effect to make multiple different xyzs.
hes ygodrcuck, who says "petdeckfags" are literally hitler and anyone who suggests that a card that is normally bad in most situations, but is ok in one, is wrong because the grand total of 3 (three) frog decks in the OCG didnt run it.
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>>149131365
Why would I be the Quillbolt anon when I wasn't the one making the case for Quillbolt being good in anything? The only thing that idiot could ever do was post his shitty decklist with the Ice Barriers and Plaguespreader Zombie and Quillbolt and shot from the mountain tops about how good his techs actually were but then completely backpedal and pretend he meant that his build was always meant to be a fun petdeck like he didn't just pretend OCG players didn't know what they were doing because they didn't fucking run his specific petdeck

>>149131585
>>149131585
And oh boy look who it is. Make that FOUR (4) Frog decks that don't run your shitty tech ya fucking numbskull
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>>149131585
Quillbolt in Burgers or Quillbolt in Frog Burgers? Because I did that meme a looong time ago when burgers were first announced. I'm sure others have done it besides me as well.
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>>149131668
because he mentioned retards
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What's the victory condition of D Heroes?
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>>149131741
Summon King Calamity and other RDA synchros.
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>>149131741
hope your opponent scoops for no reason
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>>149131672
same here. it works nice to spam out R2s.

>>149131668
nice to see you still havent
1) tried the deck
>EWW WHY WOULD I WANT TO PLAY YUGIOH PETDECKFAG
2) suggested something else to add in
>WHERE ARE YOUR FROG THE JAMS AND 20 RESCUE RABBITS AND UNEXPECTED DAI
3) realized that rescue rabbit is at 3 in the OCG, making an easy way to summon 2 jam/kappa, and making them a better tech overall.
>STOG SUGGESTING THINGS I DONT LIKE

did i cover your responses?

your next response will be something along the lines of calling me a petdeckfag, even though im not religiously tied to the deck like you seem to be.
then you'll say this next statement is a backpedal.
to be clear, i never backpedaled once in that arguement, i said from the beginning that it was good in the context of a R2 spam build that i had, and not in the context of a treatoad turbo build, like all the OCG decks are.
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What's the point of there being two separate region banlists? How did it start?
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>>149131668
You are the quilbolt anon because you argued about anon running quilbolt when a grand total of 2 OCG Frog deck isn't. Not to mention one is team tournament and the other is local fishermen.
You also waste like 100 post shitposting without argument.
And it's still 4 tops, in this phase, even aBC still use COCK. The ratio and the deck still isn't finalized yet.
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>>149132259
Oh, I forgot to mention that you are the one starting the banter with no good argument and always bringing it back with no good reason.
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>>149132170
jewart makes up some retarded shit about playstyles or something

the real reason is that we have different cards, for instance I think japan has something that allows the blaze fenix ftk so blaze fenix is limited to prevent the loop. i might be wrong about that though

and it's also a fact of "different people think some card is fair enough to allow at 1 while others dont", and it's not like they have to prove it to anyone, they just publish their list
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>quillbolt anon and ygodrcuck back at it again
Why don't you niggers just put on some trips so we can filter your shitty "results vs petdecks" arguing already holy fuck
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>>149130276
why goblind and not tin goldfish? It's the same eff plus he's water
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>>149132170
>What's the point of there being two separate region banlists?
OCG gets their shit before the TCG, so if something degenerate happens in the OCG with X card and the card is touched in the next banlist then the TCG might not even able to use that X card if it's banned.
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>>149132592
apparently for blade armor ninja
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>>149132592
warrior for rota?
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>>149132592
rota anon
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>>149132724
and excalibur
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>>149132808
>anon
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>>149132724
>>149132804
>>149132808
>>149132868
oh shit yea you're right, im retarded.
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>>149132938
thanks for the (you) :3
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>>149132151
>1) tried the deck
Again I don't have to play a deck I know won't work on a competitive level. Had you just stopped being a bitch and pointed out how you were running a petdeck build instead of going off into a tangent about how good your tech actually is and how OCG players don't know what they're doing even though they clearly have a good idea, we wouldn't have gotten into this argument in the first place
>2) suggested something else to add in
Take out Quillbolt, because its shit. That's the only suggestion I've EVER made about your deck
>3) realized that rescue rabbit is at 3 in the OCG, making an easy way to summon 2 jam/kappa, and making them a better tech overall.
And how there's been at least one build in OCG that doesn't run Rabbit in OCG meaning the deck can still work with just Unexpected Dai or even just 1 Rabbit so constantly bringing up that point doesn't strengthen your argument for Quillbolt

And honestly, like I've said before I've got NO problem with people who wanna play their petdecks and just be left alone. I have a problem with people who act like they're somehow above the people who are actually playing the game for a competitive environment while most of the time games here are nothing but pubstomps. You're getting a whole different feel for the game when its only against randoms who barely understand how to operate YGOPro itself as opposed to just playing the game or their decks in general. So that's why I don't take your "but it works for me" shtick into account, because you might as well be telling me how good Galaxy Soldier totally was in Blue-Eyes again, because this is the exact same argument

>to be clear, i never backpedaled once in that arguement

Yes you did. You said your R2 spam deck was better than what was being run in OCG then flipped it into it being a petdeck that you only play for fun when you couldn't make an argument as to why it was actually better
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>>149132526
Who is Jewart?
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>>149133123
>Gungnir
>Great Sorcerer
I'd cut them for a second Trish and a Dance Princess.
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>>149133123
where is pre prep and gale dogra? ritual sanctuary may be a good idea for this build.
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>>149133010
(you) too lad
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>>149133089
Kevin Tewart is our meme scapegoat.

Everything that goes remotely wrong TCG-side we blame him because he said dumb shit
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>>149133251
pre prep doesn't work with nekroz because the ritual spell must have a specific name on it
think prisma
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Why hasn't Denglong seen any play yet? Was it another overhyped card by dng?
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all the beta cards just disappeared from ygopro
what's going on ;-;
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>>149133398
Metalzings were a meme deck, I'm surprised you didn't figure that out almost immediately
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>>149133450
which ones because today a lot of beta cards went off beta and can be used in checkmate.
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>>149133398
Yang Zing suck. No amount of Metalfoes will change that.

Its first turn boards are salt shakers like generic synchro masturbation but slightly worse
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Darklords are fun. Please post more builds so I can compare.
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I have a lot of friends that allow banned cards when they play

I'm thinking about picking up a Dragon Rulers deck, can someone give me a retard version of how to play drulers?
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>>149133060
>And honestly, like I've said before I've got NO problem with people who wanna play their petdecks and just be left alone.
except you've brought up "petdeckfags" without any context, multiple times in multiple threads.
sounds like you're the one backpedaling here.

i mean, i didnt post at all in the last thread and it seems like you brought me up out of nowhere.
and this thread too, it seems.
i didnt post until >>149131585.
why are you backpedaling?
all ive ever said was my build runs quillbolt because in the context of R2 spam, its pretty broken, and then explained that pretty much word for word, and then you said i backpedaled, even though that was my stance from the start.
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>>149133060
>Take out Quillbolt, because its shit
The reason you are calling it shit is because it never show up in any OCG Frog build, which is just 4 build. ABC still using COCK in this phase.
And the other reason you said is because it's not discard-able with Swap Frog, but hey, you don't need to waste 50 post to say it, right?

>>149133060
>I've got NO problem with people who wanna play their petdecks and just be left alone
>I have a problem with people who act like they're somehow above the people who are actually playing the game for a competitive environment
This all start when some anon post their frog build when asked, and you just immediately bash him for using Quillbolt because somehow posting it once is equal to shoving it in your face that Quillbolt is a VERY GOOD AND COMPETITIVE TEK that is absolute must in all Frog decks.
Heck, YOU are the one thinking you are above others because you keep bashing the Quillbolt anon for no good reason.
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SPYRALs on Percy when?
The new Darklord cards appear to be working perfectly too.
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>>149133060
>>149134286
Wait, rephrase it, YOU are the one thinking you are above other because you are shoving it in our face that Quillbolt is a shitty tek.
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>>149134042
>petdeckfags
Dude that is a fucking joke relating to the argument I had with you some threads ago, I can't believe you are taking some candid comment that seriously. If I was THAT belligerent on how much I hated petdecks I would go out of my way to shit on the people who post their frog builds with Water Barrier Statue or any of the Darklord builds being posted so far, or fucking any of the random builds you see posted here from time to time. I don't, and you wanna know why? Those people aren't pompous about the deck they play and don't make it an issue to try and say how much better the deck their playing actually is despite it getting next to no results. I take issue with those particular kind of posters and I still do, otherwise I wouldn't be having this argument with you. How is that backpedaling at all when I didn't make a staunch claim about the issue until now?

And if you're talking about me referencing it, well hell I dunno, I bring it up because i actually is kinda funny that this argument went on for several threads and is probably going to continue, and I bring it up every time we start getting into a lull or slow posting, or someone complains about arguments in general, I point out that arguments like this one are what actually makes the threads move quickly and keeps this place from being a fucking dead zone half the time. I didn't know it bothered you that much, most other people seem to get the "petdeckfag" thing as a joke relating to the time people used to respond to deck advice posts with "-your shit deck, +Nekroz/Kozmo/whateverthebestdeckwasatthetime"

I mean I guess if you're bothered by it that much you could just grow a thicker skin cause I'm not gonna stop using it. Again everything I did was simply in passing reference and its not as if I'm planning on you showing back up just so we can keep doing this stupid argument
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>>149134498
>ITS JUST A JOKE BRO, ITS JUST A JOKE.
>ITS FUNNY TO BRING IT UP MULTIPLE TIMES BRO
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>>149134552
So you're literally just butthurt over a passing phrase that gets used all the fucking time? Holy shit, try Reddit instead
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>>149134640
What he's posting is the joke.
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>>149134640
>that gets used all the fucking time?
only you saying it every day doesnt mean its a funny le maymay ebin joke.
stop backpedaling.

im going to stop posting now, and i suggest you do the same.
and in the future, try not to mention how butthurt a non meta deck makes you, and i'll try not to hurt your feelings by posting a deck list on a deck i'll get bored of in a few days.
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>>149134765
>backpedaling
There's that word you don't seem to understand again, but if you're finally willing to admit that you were wrong or stop posting (same thing) then yeah I can agree we can squash this finally
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>>149128420
>thinking anyone at konami of a america picked up why they're called Burgesstomas
>thinking that the average yugioh player will notice that something isn't quite right here
Both the Lovecraft shit and Burgers are too good for this game.
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>>149134498
>I don't, and you wanna know why
Cause you don't have ygodr lists to post at them
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>>149133398
Dying to hand traps, kaiju and going second kinda kills them.
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>>149134914
>still trying to win the argument
I'm sorry. Did it hurts being a pathetic faggot?
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>>149135527
Bro, is this someone else, because I thought you were gonna stop posting?

If this is the other guy, I hope you figured out that I was ignoring you for a reason you're barely worth my time
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>>149135619
>trying to get the last word
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>>149135884
Didn't you say you'd stop posting first?
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Meta or not. I have a feeling I am going to love SPYRALs.
I didn't actually think I would like them prior to seeing them. I figured it was going to be an archetype full of situational Mind Crush bullshit. And Agent's special summon is kind of like that in that you've got to guess, but you've got really good control over that with the Gears, and even if you get it wrong you don't even lose anything. And the other cards? They don't even have any guess work to begin with.

It's a good old fashioned Warrior/Machine swarm&resource gathering deck from the looks of things. I like that.
If they somehow end up meta I'll main them. And if not I'll still likely petdeck them hard.
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is it really worth it?
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...and you're still going
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>>149135902
didn't you say you were a faggot?
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dng mixtape when?
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hey guys i havent played since like 2000 but this movie has me hyped. i tried to remake my old deck but a lot of the cards were banned. my friend told me about the white and black card and said to try to summon them. but whenever i have polymerization and two level 4 monsters i can't activate polymerization. can anyone help me?
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>>149137129
Don't try to get back into the game.
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>>149137129
>>>/tg/
play magic instead
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>>149137129
nice bait.

on the otherhand, you need to be controlling both of them. no poly.
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>>149137129
>no Axe of Despair
Have fun losing
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>>149137205
so do i banish them like xyz?
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>>149137129
I need to ask if you're serious
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>>149137129
You don't need poly to summon black monster.
You don't poly either to summon white monster.
You just need the material on field to summon them.
Search Monarch deck and try to play it, they'll teach you what newer summoning method works like. Or maybe Qliphort. Or Kozmo.
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>>149137257
nice bait.

on the otherhand, when 2 level 4 monsters are on the field together, you can overlay them to make castel.
you need angel trumpeter and another level 4 for stardust.
when you have the correct means to summon them, the extra deck should light up.
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>>149137268
>>149137319
>people are actually falling for this weak bait
I really overestimate /dng/ sometimes.
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>>149137393
Well, last thread is Kaiba and Kingu wanking, so what do you expect?
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>>149137393
I just wanna help this guy if he's legit bro
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ygodrcuck! ive found a memes to end this arguement!
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>>149137717
>>149137717
>rabbit builds in tcg

God you OCG cucks are fully retarded.
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>Keeps saying he's gonna stop posting
>keeps posting

"OK"
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>>149137831
>what is unexpected dai
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Sweet. Abyss Actor Wild Hope turned out to be better than initially thought.
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>>149138683
It can search the new game original trap card too. If it's any good I'm expecting hybrid builds with a minimal Abyss Actor "engine" in something like Metalfoes to be the way to go.
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Hey guys, I'm sure you get dickheads like me a lot but I'm sort of trying to get back into the game and putting together a Blue-Eyes deck. I bought myself three of the Blue Eyes structure decks and one of the Dragon Lords ones, as well as a box of Shining Victories since they've got support cards in there.

I'm not really looking to go full competitive because I don't have a local scene or anything, but I'd appreciate some help on even just staple or particularly helpful cards to stick in the deck. I'm struggling with deciding on the rest of the deck beyond really obvious picks, particularly with spell/trap cards. Would I be better off just playing online and trying shit out? Apologies in advance for asking stupid questions.
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>>149139836
Alternative X3 is a must either way, and it's coming out in the movie pack. I don't have any Blue-Eyes builds on me to help much more, sorry friend-o.
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>>149140130
Thanks anyway. Naturally I don't have anything from the movie pack yet but I'm looking forward to picking them up once they're out.

Are there any other decks that are particularly easy to put together? I'm looking at the top decklists link and it looks Performapal, Kozmos and Monarchs are all very strong right now and relatively easy to slap together. I don't know, I don't really have anywhere to play but I like collecting the cards and putting decks together anyway.
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>>149140369
Monarchs can be made from buying three of their structure decks. It's easily the most budget deck right now by far.
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>>149140352
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>>149140352
Abyss Actor - Sassy Rookie
Level 4 DARK Fiend, 1700/1000
Scale 2
P: If an "Abyss Actor" monster you control would be destroyed by battle or an opponent's card effect, you can destroy this card instead.
M: OPT this card cannot be destroyed by battle
If this card is destroyed by battle or by an opponent's card effect, you can special summon 1 other level 4 or lower "Abyss Actor" monster from your Deck. If this card is destroyed while in the Pendulum Zone, you can destroy 1 level 4 or lower monster your opponent controls.
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Abyss Script – Fire Dragon’s Lair
Normal Spell Card
You can only use the (2) Effect of “Abyss Script – Fire Dragon’s Lair” once per turn.
(1) You can target 1 “Abyss Actor” monster you control; during that turn, if that monster destroys an opponent’s monster by battle: Your opponent banishes 3 monsters from their Extra Deck.
(2) If this Set card you control is destroyed by an opponent’s card effect while you have a face-up “Abyss Actor” Pendulum Monster(s) in your Extra Deck: You can look at your opponent’s Extra Deck, banish 1 card among them.

Entering the Abyss Actors’ Dressing Room
Normal Trap Card
You can only activate 1 “Entering the Abyss Actors’ Dressing Room” once per turn.
(1) If there are 2 “Abyss Actor” cards in your Pendulum Zone: Add 2 “Abyss Actor” cards with different names from your Deck to your Extra Deck, face-up.
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>>149141007
>>149141330
All shit.
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>>149141330
>Entering the Abyss Actors’ Dressing Room
L-lewd
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>>149141330
>>149141330
>>149141007
All shit. If Dressing Room was a Spell it'd be REALLY good.
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>>149141007
Relies on interacting with the opponent, so it's shit.
>>149141330
>Fire Dragon's Lair
Gimmicky. Shit.
>Dressing Room
A trap. Thus shit.
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>>149141007
>>149141330
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>>149123398
>no Brionac off
Fuck you too pal
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What's the purpose of abyss actors actually?
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>>149142597
Gimmicky anime deck.
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>>149142597
Doing things. As is even Dorklords seem more focused.
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>tfw I have to run neos allius because HEROes have no good light monsters
Gotta get Koga and the Shining out somehow, right?
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>>149143768
Why are you playing Koga
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>>149143919
To use the Shining as the bannished HERO. They're not exactly known for having high ATK.
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>>149143768
When I played Masked Heroes, I used to have Form Change at 2.
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>tfw you go undefeated 3 tournaments in a row with Blue-Eyes including after Alternative's release
feels good
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>>149137129
Needs more Fitting room, more swings, more Level 3 or lower Vanillas, more Unexpected Dais, more Genex controllers and more synchros.
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sik Spyral tech here boys
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How do my Danklords look? Heralds are pretty sweet tech.
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>>149131370
>3 Lucifer
How often do you get him out?
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>>149145578
poor man's spyral pseudo field spell here
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>>149145871
what about the extra deck? loser
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>>149124336
I mean for this set, but most tcg exclusives get like 3 to 4 cards of support for like 4 sets
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>>149137129
For maximum meme cred, play some Skull Servants without the King.
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>>149145578
>>149146014
I'll accomplish nothing with my SPYRAL deck, but at least I'll have fun
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>>149141330
>Entering the Abyss Actors’ Dressing Room
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>Turn 1
Damn these things are fun.
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>>149145928
It's still a Darklord to discard or whatever for the other cards. But unlike the traps, you can't get him back once he lands in the graveyard.
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>>149148345
Kristya can recover any of them.
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>VW is still useless in AtoZ
Damn it Konami, why won't you let me Chazz it up?
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>>149122130
Ow, it's fucking nothing.
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So what the fuck do abyss actors do besides counter feather duster?
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>>149150286
Superstar search Rise of the Dark Ruler
And, well that's pretty much it
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>>149149562
AtoZ is useless nonetheless.
It's ABC which is good.
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Ritual Kaiju boss monster fucking when?
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>>149151096
>the ritual spell is people calling out for Gojira
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>>149128420
The Cambrian period is part of the Paleozoic, anon.
But still, the whole significance and relation between the cards in the archetype is that the fossils they're based on were all found in the Burgess Shale in Canada, so the renaming is really dumb.

Like, imagine if the OCG renamed Kozmo to "Ships n' Bitches", it's still accurate but loses the pun.
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How do we bring back Dragon Rulers without destroying the game?
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>>149152121
you don't
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>>149152121
Rulers at 1 would have little if any impact on the current meta.
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>>149152121
Errata them to only banishing monsters which match their attribute to be summoned.
Or ban Dark Matter, Dragon Shrine and Ravine
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>>149152374
They would be techs in Subterrors, Speedroids, Fire Fists and Mermails but otherwise they wouldn't do much.
I still don't understand why they're banned after all that power creep.
They're weaker than PePe and possibly Dracopals now.
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>>149152407
Yeah, I feel like that could be the only reasonable errata Konami could do.
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>>149152667
>>149152374
>dumb newfags or fake oldfags that completely discount fucking Dark Matter being a card and Dark Matter OTK being a deck
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>>149153131
Post deck.
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>>149122198
Fuck your CAC shit!
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>All the Metalfoes are low rarity
Wait WHAT THE FUCK
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>>149153131
>implying that would even be good now
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>>149147514
What's the decklist?
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>>149153217
Just look up Dark Matter Rulers newfag

>>149153260
>deck that was completely ravaged the TCG meta on the day of its release wouldn't be good today
>deck that recently got MORE SUPPORT with a new Dragon Lord Strtucture deck somehow wouldn't be good

Idiot and fake dumb oldfag
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>>149153358
I mean, post updated deck. With card from Dragon Lord structure.
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>>149153131
You really think Dark Matter OTK would do anything this meta?
Monarchs lock you out of the ED.
Kozmos can float into DD and pop Galaxy-eyes before you rank up.
Burning Abyss Farfas the Galaxy-eyes.
That deck would be rogue at best.
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>>149153358
>>deck that recently got MORE SUPPORT with a new Dragon Lord Strtucture deck somehow wouldn't be good
That SD was a waste.
Do you see any topping decks with it?
Monarchs and Pen Magicians topped days after their SDs yet Felgrand isn't doing anything.
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>implying Rulers would do shit with only ONE (1) copy of each and the current banlist
lmao
>implying fucking Dark Mater "ONLY ONE OF EACH RULER" Rulers would be relevant at all when Blue-Eyes exist
l m a o
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can someone tell me why the fuck PePe was broken and two of the cards were banned? it just seems like regular rank 4 spam I'm hecking confused
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>>149153740
>regular rank 4 spam
That is precisely why it was banned actually.
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>>149153581
>Monarchs lock you out of the ED.
Blaster retard
>Kozmos can float into DD and pop Galaxy-eyes before you rank up.
You don't even know what float means for one, and two "m-muh" disruption is a fucking shitty meme, especially when you consider how piss easy it would be to get multiple Level 8s on the board to even go into Dark Matter in the first place. If they get rid of one, they aren't going to be able to deal with the next
>Burning Abyss Farfas the Galaxy-eyes.
And then proceed to get savaged by big dragon dick, but same point as previously


Try again fake oldfag

>>149153712
>Do you see any topping decks with it?
The SD only really had a couple of good cards, and no one has used those good cards because Blue-Eyes isn't getting Alternative officially until tomorrow. Are you even following the convo at all idiot?
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>>149153740
First turn CDI, Rafflesia, Number 38 and 3 Solemn Strikes was too much for any deck to handle
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>>149153812
>regular
You're one of the biggest dumbasses posting and just another fake oldfag if you honestly believe any of the shit that PePe did was "regular" Rank 4. No other deck up to that point could do what Memes could do
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Besides Crow and Yuya, have any characters actually used Tier 1/2 decks?
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>>149153852
Post deck, then. With card from Dragon Lord SD.
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>>149154078
Reiji
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>>149154092
>S-s-spoonfeed me
"No"
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>>149153852
>especially when you consider how piss easy it would be to get multiple Level 8s on the board to even go into Dark Matter in the first place
You mean the Mythic Dragons and Soul Charge?
Mythic Dragons take up a normal summon and Soul Charge prevents you from going for the OTK that turn.
Go suck off dragons somewhere else.
Once you stop the xyz summon you've stopped the OTK anyways.
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will he ever get reprinted?
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>>149154185
>asks for proof
>le spoonfeed meme
I guess Dragon Rulers are coming off the next banlist then.
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>>149154185
Then it's shit. No good card comes from Dragon Lord SD anyway.
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>>149154187
>he doesn't remember the Tefnuit + legendary Maju Garzette combo.
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>Level 8 Synchro
>When this card is Special Summoned, destroy all monsters your opponent controls. If this card atacks a Defense Position monster, inflict piercing battle damage to your opponent. If this card destroys a monster by battle, it can attack once again. When this card is destroyed and sent to the Graveyard, you can banish 1 "White" monster from your Graveyard to Special Summon this card as a Tuner monster.
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>>149153852
>The SD only really had a couple of good cards, and no one has used those good cards because Blue-Eyes isn't getting Alternative officially until tomorrow. Are you even following the convo at all idiot?
How is that different from the other SDs?
They all gave few good cards and their decks topped tourneys.
Just accept the Felgrand SD was a flop. Felgrand would have been meta if it was good.
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>>149153740
>>149153812
>>149153960
>>149153858
It's really only Wavering Eyes that makes them incredibly broken. Prove me wrong.
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>>149154634
The deck that the SD was fucking designed for was never complete until tomorrow you fuck. What other deck could have run the Felgrand SD other than Blue-Eyes?
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>>149154713
Felgrand.
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>>149154564
> When this card is destroyed and sent to the Graveyard, you can banish 1 "White" monster from your Graveyard to Special Summon this card as a Tuner monster.
>"White" monster
Does this work with Blue-eyes?
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>>149154713
>What other deck could have run the Felgrand SD other than Blue-Eyes?
Felgrand himself
Red-eyes
Chaos Dragons
Hieratics
What's left of Disaster Dragon/Hopeless Dragon
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>>149154781
Seems so.
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What's your petdeck?
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>>149147514
Nice A.I match fag.
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>>149155174
Cloudians
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>>149155174
lightsworn snow white
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what are some obscure spell and trap cards that get their effects when destroyed? has to be by your own card effects
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>>149147514
What's the decklist and win condition here?
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>>149155012
>Felgrand himself
Shitty deck
>Red-eyes
An even worse deck
>Chaos Dragons
an irrelevant deck
>Hieratics
Can't even use the support probably because the most relevant builds are Level 6s, you idiot
>What's left of Disaster Dragon/Hopeless Dragon
Which is nothing left, so irrelevant.


So again, Blue-Eyes was the best choice for the Felgrand SD and it's getting its final piece tomorrow. You're wrong and stupid
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>>149155319
Cursed Statue, or somethinng like that. Crowler used in an episode of the anime.
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>>149155365
If Felgrand itself, the one the SD is designed for, is shit, then most likely it's a shit SD.
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>>149155504
The cards themselves are simply support cards. Nigger you said yourself that only a handful of cards in a SD need to be good in order for the SD to be perceived as good, and maybe 1 or 2 cards are what really pushes Blue-Eyes over the edge
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>>149155101
>Blue-eyes still getting indirect support
I also find it hilarious that Blue-eyes is a synchro deck just like this "White" deck.
Let's see if we get a "Black" deck which uses xyz and complements Red-eyes.
So when do these cards come out? New CP in a few years?
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>>149153332
>>149155338
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>>149155871
Literally what the fuck are half these cards
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How do we stop Kaiba?
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Are Lunalights anything special? I have a bunch and I was wondering if they're worth building a deck with them
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>>149155365
>You're wrong and stupid
Re read your own post.
You asked what decks could use the Felgrand SD, not what possibly meta decks could have used the SD.
Take a chill pill. You're too worked up over a children's card game.
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>>149156028
>doesn't say which cards
>>149156040
They make my pants feel special.
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>>149156028
Google you slow nigger, no more spoonfeeding from this general
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>>149156039
Ophion set 4 ;) for Blue-eyes and Cyber Dragons for ABC
Otherwise you can't. He killed himself in April
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>>149156183
This is a thread about children's card games, not an ayn rand message board
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>/dng/ actually believes Dragons at 1 would do nothing.
Today I shall remind them.
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>>149155752
I'm not that guy. Then again, what's a good card from Felgrand SD?
Gospel/Return of DL is the only good card I can think of. Maybe Arkbrave and Divine Felgrand, but they can't special summon itself.
Is Paladin and Guardian even any good?

>>149155856
It's only the vanilla that get 'support' though. And that "White" deck composed by a bunch of lvl 2 monster, so unless there's lvl 10 synchro, it's not much of a 'support' to Blue-eyes. More like a fuel than support.
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>>149156576
>if the opponent does literally nothing they would win
What a surprising observation.
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>>149156576
>opponent sets 0 backrow
>loses
OH MY GOD I AM SO SHOCKED AND SURPRISED BY THIS
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>>149156576
Wait why did both of you start with only two cards in your hands?
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>>149156576
Why do you only have 2 cards in your hand?
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>>149156576
So, what happen if opponent Farfa'd/DD'd/Solemn'd/CDI'd your first GE?
Try to create other GE from other card in hand? You already suffer from -2 though.
Also, it seems like a good field, but it offer no protection.
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>>149156576
>Playing against a shitter
Can't wait for Tidal to be unbanned so my frog deck can start doing insane shit
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>>149157616
>implying it won't just be mermails using it
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>>149156816
>>149156902
>>149157085
>>149157157
>>149157616
He's clearly playing with himself. It just showing that If you succeed in summoning Dark Matter, you can easily make another Dark Matter (with Alternative), Dr. Red, and a Rank 7.
You might not have to tribute the first DM if you have some self-summoning lvl 8 in hand like barbaros.
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>>149156902
Twin Twister :^))
Wingbeat :^^^^)
>>149156816
Just making a rank 8 even turn 1 would banish 6-9 cards from your opponents deck and set up your grave with Dragons. Tefnuit and Legendary Maju isn't the only way to get a rank 8. Do you seriously see no problem with this even in todays game?

>>149157085
>>149157157
I hosted a duel with myself just to see what Dark Matter OTK would give you with new cards like Alternative and Ancient white stone.
>>149157453
>but what if
What if I summon Denko. What if I kaiju Crystal Wing, CDI, Beatrice ect. Clearing your field/ baiting negation and making a rank 8 isn't hard.
>Also, it seems like a good field, but it offer no protection.
You can end with Light and darkness dragon too.
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>Tewart rarity bumped the shit out of DM

Well fuck you too you piece of shit
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>>149157917
>if the opponent does l i t e r a l l y n o t h i n g they would steamroll
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So, we got:
2 very good SCRs to pull
2 SCRs related to Dark Magician making them automatically valuable
1 SCR related to a new archetype that'll get support for several sets to come
3 shitty SCRs, 1 of which will still have decent value in the first weeks
That on top of half the URs being great, odds are looking pretty good to buy a few boxes of this stuff.

SPYral are looking like hot garbage outside of being able to abuse Machine Dupe on Drone to OTK really quickly. Really a shame that DN is down now that we finally get a deck that can unironically use Convulsion of Nature. Subterrors are looking like they'll shape up to something solid down the line though, but man, they're lacking things that flip 'em around real hard right now. Tarotrei is great now that we have Pre-Prep, and Spirit of the Tailwind is basically stratos for them. I thought about adding Kagetokage to change your level 4 Subterror and Spirit of the Tailwind into a Feral Imps to search the level 7, or Papilloperative to speed up your plays. Another cute thing is using Terrortop into Alucard into Angel of Mischief to search Scare. Any dank /dng/ sekrit teks for the new stuff yet?

reminder to pick up any Darklord Superbias or Darklord Asmodeus you find, they both only have 1 print that isn't a prize card. There's also only 1 high-rarity print of Zerato but it's already worth a pretty penny. If you can get 1st eds of the things, definitely get them, the deck's gonna be really strong and people will want the blinged out stuff. The Royal Command ship looks like it's sailing off slowly, if your locals hasn't caught up yet better get them quick. And sell anything meta-relevant of course, tins and banlist will be here soon. Stuff like Odd-Eyes Fusion and Gameciel especially is still at ridiculous prices considering there's nothing big coming up.

> /dng/ thinks Rulers would be fine at 1 because disruption is a thing
Conveniently forgetting the huge resiliency Rulers have, then?
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>>149158465
>huge resiliency with z e r o super rejuvenation and o n e burial from a different dimension
I'm running out of w e w over here, please send help
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>>149158032
>What if I summon Denko. What if I kaiju Crystal Wing, CDI, Beatrice ect. Clearing your field/ baiting negation and making a rank 8 isn't hard
Bait needs 1 card, at least.
Beatrice ready to farfa, Kozmo ready to go into DD, CDI and Crystal Wing is a common first turn board for current meta deck. And disrupted when summoning the first GE is huge -2.
And yeah, you somewhat need your normal summon too, for things like Mythic Wood, and Barbaros. What's other good self-summoning lvl 8 again?

>Light and darkness dragon
People run this card? And how did you search and summon it? Dump with DM then summon with Gospel? Dr. Red already used his effect.
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Dumping Metalfoe Yang Zing crap.

Metal Zing
Strengths: Insane first turn set-up, float a lot, Baxia open up many plays with Metalfoe
Weaknesses: Big plays are very Jiaotu dependant, Gozen, Graveyard negation.

Plays:

Plus Zero
Requirements: 3 cards; Jiaotu + 2 any Yang Zing card

Jiaotu SS Zefraniu and Chiwen, synchro Baxia, Baxia's 2nd eff, destroy Chiwen SS Jiaotu, Chiwen SS Bi'an or Zefraxi
Synchro Deng Long add Nine Branches, on your opponent's turn, when using Nine Branches, SS Bi'an, and Chiwen, then make Arc Light.


Five-fold Barrier
Requirements: 4 cards; 1 Metalfoe (let's just say it's the high scale) + 3 any Yang Zing card (at least 1 monster level 4 or lower)

Activate scale, summon YZ, pop, set Combination, SS Jiaotu
Jiaotu ss Zefraniu and Zefraxi, synchro Baxia, Baxia's 2nd eff, destroy Combination SS Jiaotu, Combination add low scale
Synchro Deng Long add Nine Branches, activate the other scale, pendulum both Zefra, Niu add Divine Strike Axi make Baxia a tuner
SS Ultimaya, synchro Baxia, Deng Long SS Chiwen, Baxia's 2nd eff, destroy Chiwen, SS Jiaotu, Chiwen SS any YZ
Synchro Void Ogre, Set the counter traps, Ultimaya SS Crystal Wing
On your opponent's turn, when using Nine Branches, SS Bi'an, and Chiwen, then make Arc Light.

You can also make Titanic instead of Ultimaya nor summon other generic level 8 synchro instead of Void Ogre.
You can also make Chaofeng with any attribute (except Divine):
>Anti Earth(battle), Water(trap) and Light: After SSing Chiwen, unused scale pop Chiwen set combination, Chiwen SS Bixi, Baxia's 2nd eff destroy combination SS Chiwen, add a Metalfoe if you want.
>Anti Earth(battle), Wind(spell) and Dark: After SSing Chiwen, unused scale pop Chiwen set combination, Chiwen SS Pulao, Baxia's 2nd eff destroy combination SS Jiaotu, add a Metalfoe if you want.
>Anti Fire and Light: Add Suanni instead of Nine Branches, pendulum it alongside Axi and Niu.


>>149158465
Accel? Is that you?
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>>149158891
>Seriously fucking implying Dragon Rulers EVER played Burial from a Different Dimension

Fake oldfag fucking confirmed. Get the fuck out REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>149159089
>summon with Gospel
#fuckreading

You can search it with Eclipse Wyvern.
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So is the movie pack box worth a buy?
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>>149159089
People ran it but If I remember correctly it was only really when the rulers were higher than 1. first turn LaDD was like galaxy solider in ABC. Really powerful but you sacrifice consistency. It didn't matter with rulers at 3 though.
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>>149159115
Best Chaofeng is objectively the Light/Dark/Wind one since it significantly harms all of the big meta decks, and Hope Harbinger can prevent it from dying due to getting beat over.
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>>149159089
>Beatrice ready to farfa, Kozmo ready to go into DD, CDI and Crystal Wing is a common first turn board for current meta deck. And disrupted when summoning the first GE is huge -2.
And yeah, you somewhat need your normal summon too, for things like Mythic Wood, and Barbaros. What's other good self-summoning lvl 8 again?
Alternative, Gospel, Eatos Silvers Cry, and Soul Charge can all be used to get lvl 8s on field without a normal summon.

>People run this card? And how did you search and summon it?
Send Eclipse Wyvern with Dark Matter -> banish with Ruler -> add to hand -> Normal Summon
>Dump with DM then summon with Gospel? Dr. Red already used his effect.
Read the card.
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>>149158465
What are the good Secret Rares?
Cupidity, Cosmic Cyclone and Coral Dragon are all fairly decent IMO, and Nirvana has that anime appeal. The Subterror one is probably going to have hype prices too; people aren't going to be late to pick up the THIRD meta TCG exclusive archetype.

The only really bad one is Examination.
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>>149159873
>Examination.
Why the fuck they made it a Secret?
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>>149149562
Fusion Tag this shit.
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>>149159252
They still had return back then
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>>149160097
RETURN from the different dimesion is a lot fucking different from BURIAL from a Different Dimension you scrub

Get out fake oldfags FUCK
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>>149159325
Then you can't summon it. The 2nd wyvern is dumped with the 2nd DM, which need normal summon to summon the other lvl 8 to create it.
Or maybe you can Gospel other lvl 8 from grave then summon it using 2 token from dracossack.

>>149159736
Gospel + Silver's Cry might be a good card, but needs setup. And that tefnuit seems bricky. Not to mention that you run 3 vanilla BE.

Oh, and I think LaDD can only be used once per chain.
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>>149159873
Cupidity and Cosmic Cyclone. Coral Dragon and Nirvana are in the shitty SCRs list, you can probably move them early on but they'll drop hard once people get their 1 copy of Coral and nobody actually uses Nirvana in anything.

>>149160050
Examination is such a dumb secret. Someone in the TCG department probably looked at it and thought it had sleeper potential, but like most of these cards it'd only work in slower metas, as if we'll ever get one of those again.

>>149159115
Accel is dead, man.
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>>149160538
Indeed, Coral and Examination should have been like they were in the TCG, I'm gonna buy 2 boxes and I'm pretty scared to pull Coral, Nirvana or Examination as the SCR ones of the box.
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>>149160538
It's good if your deck can summon Mustangun easily. :^)
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>>149160338
So how are you recovering those banished cards again?
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>>149147060
You wouldn't peep on Pretty Heroine would you? That would be a crime!
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>>149160891
You didn't. You win before that.
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>>149160891
omega :^)
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>>149160371
>Then you can't summon it.
If you Make a Dark Matter without using a normal you can summon LaDD.
>Gospel + Silver's Cry might be a good card, but needs setup.
You mean that set-up that you probably already have after your first Dark Matter dies?
>And that tefnuit seems bricky
I don't even think a modern Dark Matter OTK deck would run the hieratic engine.
>Not to mention that you run 3 vanilla BE.
You mean just like how that already tier 1 Dragon deck does? Blue eyes has soo much support that this isn't even a downside.

>>149158891
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>>149161232
BE also bricks though.
Or maybe you're saying that one just need to splash those DRuler into BE deck?
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The fact that rulers still stand a chance against top meta decks and absolutely devestates everything else is a big reason why konami ain't unbanning them yet. Rulers are just badly designed cards in general and need an errata.
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>>149161712
>need an errata.

Fuck off.

Just wait until powercreep get to their levels
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>>149135149
>>149152010
I bet all the retards at KoA sucked each other off thinking "Paleozoics" was such a cool name.

Seriously, Tewart needs to be fired and someone needs to be hired that isn't a complete fuckwit
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>>149161676
>Or maybe you're saying that one just need to splash those DRuler into BE deck?
It's the first thing I would try desu. If it doesn't work which I highly doubt then I'll move onto Hieratic or Mythic Dragons.
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>>149161712
>need an errata.
Nope, errata kills cards.
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>>149161870
I don't agree with D-Rulers but some things just won't come back without an errata. There are several things that would come off as long as we get a hard OPT.
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>>149161870
Powercreep left them behind long ago.
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>>149162172
Brionac can come back without an errata.
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>>149161870
>Just wait until powercreep
Yeah no, lets not make fucking Dragon Rulers the basis of our power floor. We really don't need the game to become more of a turn 1 lockout board masturbation fuckfest than it already is.

Rulers are just shitty designed and can literally fit into any attribute deck with 0 thought. They need to require more cost for their effects or be more restricted.
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> just wait until powercreep catches up to fucking DRAGON RULERS
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>>149162381
I agree. But Mind Master, Disk Commander, Premature Burial, and mass driver can't.
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>>149162372
Thats the only deck though and is more because R4NK is bullshit
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>>149162096
So you're saying that DRuler will get splashed into a meta deck which even then won't make them truly dominating?
Or maybe it will. I don't know. They didn't provide much disruption and protection, just resiliency and consistency, which is what BE really needs, but personally I don't think OTK deck will dominates with how current meta likes to shit out huge lockout field t1.
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>>149162740
>So you're saying that DRuler will get splashed into a meta deck which even then won't make them truly dominating?
drulers go in every deck that can summon them because theyre fucking amazing. Shiranui would suck dick for even 1 blaster.
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>>149162635
>Thats the only deck
Actually the second strongest deck in history came before them.
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How broken would Tidal be in Treatoad.dek?
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>>149162172
>There are several things that would come off as long as we get a hard OPT.
>Dragon Rulers all have hard OPT
>it's the strictest "You can only use 1 effect of "X" once per turn." hard OTP
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>>149162848
Will it make them meta though? If not, then all is good with the world.
When it makes a deck truly dominating, then that's where everything goes wrong.
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>>149163097
I wasn't talking about D-rulers. I was just referring to banned cards in general.
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>>149163338
Yeah I know, I just wanted to point it out.
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>>149163183
Shiranui with blaster would probably be bonkers. Metalfoes would like blaster too because why the fuck not.
Tidalfrogs would be absolute cancer.
Redox makes every earth deck get a free reborn.
Wind doesn't have any good decks but if it did Tempest is the only one that isnt splashable in absolutely every wind deck.
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What decks do memelords use?
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>>149163502
frog, for achieving the toppest keks
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>>149163502
Darklords.
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>>149162959
Another form of milling in a deck that needs absolutely no help milling cards thanks to Swap Frog

It probably wouldn't see play in Frog famalam. You're thinking of Mermails, something it ACTUALLY saw play in
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>>149163502
duston lock.
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>>149163862
>NS Swap and mill
>return to hand
>discard with Tidal for more milling
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>>149164629
Or you could just discard Tidal with Swap and keep milling anyway. You know you can SS Swap more than once right?
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>>149164714
Or you could discard another frog and mill even more.
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>>149164945
Well yeah I mean, you aren't really making a case for Tidal saying that Swap can do its job 10 times better
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Maybe I'm missing something obvious, but why are the top performing Treatoad decks running three-of Frog the Jam when the support cards don't support it?
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Did something happen to dueling network? Haven´t been on there since february and can´t find it on google anymore.
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>>149165493
rescue rabbit
>>149165515
killed, check op
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>>149165493
Unexpected dai/rescue rabbit target for easy treadtoad
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>>149165493
Rescue Rabbit can search out Frog the Jam, and it's the best Level 2 Water Aqua. It allows easy access to Treatoad.
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>>149165515
It's dead. But people who can't let go of the past can't find themselves to let go of the name /dng/.
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>>149165657
>>149165668
>>149165670
Wow I feel stupid, thanks guys. It'll be interesting to see how frog decks look in the TCG since Rabbit is limited.
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>>149165783
It makes no sense to get rid of a name of a general.
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>>149165783
>killing history
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>>149165836
Norden is legal here, so we can probably expect some crazy Rank 4 plays.
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>>149166000
Do you honestly expect Norden not to fucking die by the time we get INOV?

Nice trips by the way, Praise Kek
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>>149137268
yeah I am.

>>149137371
thanks a lot. i found the wikia and did some reading on the synchro, xyz, and pendulum cards, but now i've got an official rulebook.

my friend recommend I pick up the Master of Pendulum structure deck to learn with so I did and also got the tin with the two xyz monsters at walmart. this is what I came up with using the two. Anyone have any recommendations for changes?
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>>149166154
>Invasion: Vengance
Fuck you too KoA
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>>149165859
It does when the general topic of this "general" isn't Dueling Network.
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>>149160907
It's alright if I only peep
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>>149166376
they dont wanna fall advertise and >imply thats theres some kind of reptile support with it being venom
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>>149166375
Run Odd-Eyes Fusion instead of Polymerization.
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>>149166520
vouyersim can be a crime
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>>149166541
>Invasion of Venom
>Give support to almost every dead archetype
>Don't give support to Venom
Explain that
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>>149163476
Tempest and Ravine make Dragunities pure cancer.
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>>149166569
>Run Odd-Eyes Fusion instead of Polymerization.
B-but!
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>>149166672
Only if you get caught!
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>>149166845
>>Invasion of Venom
>Just 3 [three] Predator Plants
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>>149166845
Starve Venom Fusion Dragon
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>>149166995
>Make Metal Claw a fucking Dragon, even though it's clearly a Wolfman, in order to give it obvious synergy with Odd-Eyes Fusion
>Make the benefit Polymerization instead of just not fucking including that part at all for no reason

WHY DOES KONAMI STILL HAVE A DICK BONER FOR POLYMERIZATION? THEY'VE RELEASED DOZENS OF BROKEN FUSION CARDS OVER THE YEARS, NO ONE FUCKING CARES ABOUT POLY ANYMORE BESIDES FLUFFALS AND FLUFFALS ARE SHIT AND SO IS POLY
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Hosting on YGOpro
Note: /dng/
Pass: vidya
Testing DarkLords.
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>>149166959
Yeah, pure cancer.
Guaranteed tier 0 format-warping disgustingness.
You're retarded if you think another 3-card normal summon reliant deck will make a difference, especially considering there are probably 10 other petdecks that fit that exact description.
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r8/h8
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>>149128557
You sound like a much bigger scrub than most of these folks.
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>>149168014
What is the spell to the right of Soul Charge? and what's you ED?
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>>149168014
I imagine you must brick all the time with just 4 of the new Darklords in addition to two fucking Asmodeus in the deck.
And you've got 3 copies of Celestial Transformation, and two copies of Valhalla with the monster searcher. But in the end you've barely got any monsters to actually summon with them what with how few you're running.
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>>149168283
Celstial Transformation if I'm not mistaken
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Which deck best encapsulates everything that modern Yugioh is about? I'm dueling a friend that hasn't played in years and I want to show him just what this game has become.
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So what cards should I grab for DarkMemes?
Already grabbed 2x Ulti Allures for cheapo/2x Kristya/2xZerato

What else should I grab before it's expensive.

>Also r8/h8
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>>149168564
DDD
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>>149168593
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>>149168564
un-ironically, Deskbots.
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>>149167653
Bruh, while tempest was alive Dragunties were degenerate and actually topped.
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>>149168593
You really, rally want to run 3 Altars. Remove Upstart or something for a third one.
Ixtab + Superbia + Altar is one of your best plays. Especially turn one.
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>>149168593
dont go spending too much now
some might go into the set itself
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>negate opponent's Raigeki with Abyss
>they surrender
OUT-FUCKING-SKILLED

I miss Checkmate
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>>149168014
>3 Celestial Transformation while you have next to no monsters to actually summon
>ZERO Mastemas
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>>149168564
DDDs.
It has long Fusion combos. It has long Synchro combos. It has strong Xyz plays. It has tribute plays. It has pendulums.
And most of its combos even combines the above.
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>>149168738
He's a dumb, fake, oldfag. Stop replying to him. I doubt he even really knows what Dragon Rulers did
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>>149168886
Is Checkmate down forever or something?
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>The Abyss Actor extra deck is officially themed as the Abyss Actor dressing room
Oh I can't help but love this. As cheesy as it may be.
They're at home in the deck. Then I use effects to drive them to the extra deck that is their dressing room for preparation. And then I prepare the pendulum scales, and pendulum summon them onto the field that is the stage!
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>>149168641
>>149168982
>tfw DDD should be the protagonist deck
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>>149169591
You sound like an anime character.
Faggot.
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>>149169591
>Tfw Abyss actors have so much more flavour than performapals
Sawatari should have been the protagonist.
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>>149169890
he is in our hearts
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>>149168738
>>149169048

Outside of Hoban and co pushing xD Dux maymays you have to be mentally deficient to even consider playing Dragunity instead of actual Dragon Rulers.

Oh no, normal summoning Stardust Dragon.
Wow.
So strong.

>"Oh but they topped!!!"
Fuck off. If they were actually good they would have been everywhere.
I bet you're the kind of monkey that thinks Future Fusion can come back if Five-Headed Dragon gets banned.
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>>149170317
Are you not even trying to follow the conversation, dumbass?
>>149163476
>Wind doesn't have any good decks
This was the main argument you stupid bitch, WIND DID in fact have a deck that could use Tempest effectively. If you'd actually been around at all during 2013 instead of just pretending to be a fake oldfag, you'd know that Dragunity actually started to see a lot of relevant play in OCG thanks to triple Gold Sarc (and sicknasty Garuda combos) turning Tempest into a RotA for Mystlettain, which opened up a shitton of plays for the deck.

Like I cannot believe how many arguments I've gotten into with people who had no idea what was going on in a meta they clearly didn't play but still feel the need to interject their parse as fuck knowledge about it. Maybe I've just been playing this goddamn game too long
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What are the chances of SPYRALs being uploaded within 2-3 hours?
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>>149170696
What kind of board Dragunity with Tempest usually end up with?
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Who's ready for the banlist tomorrow? Once the movie pack drops officially there shouldn't be any reason for holding back.
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>>149171412
Any field that could start with "Level 4 Winged Beast" + Mystlettain + Phalanx could end with REDMD + M7 + any Level 8 Synchro monster of your choice for easy lockdown boards (remember this is 2013, so we didn't have that many cards that could do bonkers shit like we do today) or easy peezy OTK's and that's just the most basic bread and butter combo I actually remember
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>>149170696
Are /you/ not even trying to follow the conversation, dumbass?
>>149166959
>Tempest and Ravine make Dragunities pure cancer.
This was what I went after as retard babble.
No shit Wind had a deck that could use Tempest.
Water had one. Fire had 2. Earth had 3.

Literal who decks like Karakuri saw play in 2013 because of Redox.

Even with Tempest, Dragunity was STILL a rogue deck because of how much more powerful Ruler, Spellbooks, and possibly even Mermail was, more so considering it was weak to Evilswarm but had a worse out.

You're a manatee dick if you think it was "degenerate" then, and you're a syphillitic manatee dick if you think it would still be good now. If you want to talk about following the conversation, maybe you should reread what you're quoting, because things that were good then aren't nearly as good now.
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>>149171671
>Implying they have it done and are just waiting on the movie pack
>Implying that tewarts goons have even gotten off of their asses to decide on a new list yet
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>>149170317
Hoban unironically thought Dragunity was better than Dragon Rulers because Dragunity was more linear.
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>>149169591
They're a deck I want to use just for the theme.
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>>149171792
Who in the actual fuck is talking about the deck being good now? You're the one who went off on a COMPLETELY WRONG autistic rant about how Dragunity was played and how it totally wasn't good and now that you've gotten proven wrong you're backpedaling like a motherfucker into "b-b-but it was just ROGUE" Yeah no shit it was rogue you dumb bitch, not very many things could compete against Rulers or Spellbooks, that's still no fucking excuse to completely misrepresent how the deck was actually played back then.

While I wouldn't go as far as to say they were degenerate, you're still a dumb bitch who couldn't figure out that this whole thing was about declaring Dragunity as the WIND deck that could utilize Tempest, not as Dragunity being somehow better than Dragon Rulers

I also love how its easy to figure out who you are since you're the same type of guy copies text word for word in a "I know you are but what am I" sort of way. This site is 18+ my child
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>>149133890
Play Judgment Spellbooks ft. Jowgen. The salt will be endless.
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>>149171979
Hoban is a retard more news at 11, that doesnt mean that dragunity were irrelevant in that time
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>>149170317
>Oh no, normal summoning Stardust Dragon.
>Wow.
>So strong.
I think the idea would be more like this, but whatever, I won't pretend that the deck was good.
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>>149172620
Hoban's version didn't play Mystletainn or REDMD because he felt they hurt consistency too much.
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>>149146385
>no 13th Grave as the 13th card in the deck

Step it up, senpai.
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>>149172738
Because that version wasn't a Dragunity deck, it was a Dragunity Ruler deck, and that was in September 2013 format not the March 2013 format. People did a lot of experimentation with Ruler builds during that time. Plant Rulers saw completely unironic play
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>>149171912
All the signs are there though.

>Tewart's new archetypes can't do jack shit against BE, Metalfoe and ABC
>Structure Decks were moved up 2 months
>Movie Pack was released way ahead of schedule when the movie doesn't come out until 2017 and Alternative the key card wasn't short printed

It's going to happen soon and Kozmo, Monarch, BA, and Pends are getting hit hard to make room for the Kaiba meta.
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>>149156040
They can otk like a motherfucker.
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>>149172359
i'd like to point out that the people who get mad about their posts being copied are the people who made utterly worthless posts that others can copy and reverse so easily

when someone tries to copy a post with arguments and logic in it, they have to take those out or the new post won't make any sense. or if they replace them with something new, it's no longer copying. when the post is generic and worthless, it's easy to copy.

i suspect that this post will offend you but that's the price to pay for knowledge
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What cards (besides Pot of Greed) can't come back?
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>>149172359
I barely understand what you're sperging out about, given that outside of the mongoloid claiming the deck was degenerate, nobody else replied to >>149163476 until you did.

And here you go, trying to push it as some kind of secret menu meta deck that only the best 2 decks could beat because it's clear that it wasn't, given how Mermail, Madolche, and a dozen other decks could also be considered "t-totally good" that format.

If you admit they weren't degenerate, then what's your angle, spilling shit about how this suddenly isn't about whether Tempest would be fair now.

It's also really easy to tell who you are because apparently the only insult you can drool out is "dumb bitch". This site is 18+ but that doesn't mean 50-year old dumpsters full of whale semen like yourself are welcome.
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>>149128052
NANI!!!!!
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>>149173121
Tewart's new archetypes can't do shit against anybody
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>>149173401
>i'd like to point out the obvious that simple posts are easy to copy and nitpick
>when someone quotes a post with logic, they have to take that out, then theyre no longer really quoting the post
>lol ur mad, but oh well i'm a philosophizer
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>>149173572
>If you admit they weren't degenerate, then what's your angle
That they weren't played in the way you were describing, ya fuck. Do I literally have to spell it out for you?
>>149170317
>Oh no, normal summoning Stardust Dragon.
>Wow.
>So strong.
They never did that back during that point in time. Once again, since I have to explain it to you, you were misrepresenting how the deck was played back then
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>>149173697
>Slowbro is actually a slow older brother
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>>149173809
then don't get mad if you yourself know that you made a simple meaningless post
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>>149156576
just release my niggah redox :T
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>>149173964
>don't get mad get glad
>explore the universe of logic with me
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>>149173923
>Slowking is a mentally disabled monarch
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>>149173964
>simple meaningless post
Literally a non argument. Every post on 4chan is meaningless in context. This is a Nepalese kitten image transfer system forum after all
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>>149174460
Well Monarchs are pretty helmet I guess
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>>149171412
>>149171701
They could end with pic related which was protection against 1 monster effect and 1 MST/Dark Hole

Not exactly fair but not very much was fair in 2013
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>>149175270
Not to mention that very little non-destruction removal existed back then. The only generic Rank 4 that could remove cards was Dire Wolf, and the only generic Xyz (to my memory) that could bounce was M7.
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Which rival is the best rival?
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>>149176165
>No Reiji
I know that this image is simply promoting the Rival pack (which Reiji also conveniently got skimped out on) but they really have ceased giving a fuck about Reiji haven't they?
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>>149176165
Is that movie Kaiba?
I'm not aware of Kaiba being in Arc-V.
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>>149176313
Who's Reiji?
Don't mind this pic of a floating baseball bat.
>>149176450
Yeah.
He's there to shill the useless Krystal Dragon.
At least all the other cards help support their decks while Krystal Dragon does nothing but slow down Blue-eyes
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>>149176165
W-why do they all look so sinister?
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>>149176165
Sawatari is easily one of the most entertaining and he actually changed decks to to try and gain a leg up on his rival. Chazz and Jack were made of pure hype, but they weren't actually that good of duelists in my mind. Reiji is definitely the most competent duelist out of all of them though.

Edo was pretty boring for the most part, and I don't really care for Kaito very much considering that he was basically just Galaxy-Eyes. Kaiba just played Blue-Eyes gudstuff decks, but he has nostalgia points.
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>>149173529
Delinquent Duo
Forceful Sentry
Graceful Charity
Pianful Choice
Last Turn
Royal Oppression

I actually wouldn't mind seeing pic related being the next legal for one format then "what the fuck were we thinking ban it" card
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>>149176785
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>>149176929
>Tewart messed up this card by unbanning Raigeki
ONE JOB TEWART
ONE JOB
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>>149128052
>The Dig and Mon in Digmon stood for Digimon
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>>149176929
>the flavor of this card is completely ruined in TCG because Raigeki is unbanned

The Pot of 3 Taboos and this one other card just doesn't sound as good
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>>149176165
Kaiba considering he's the only good foil character to the MC. Jack comes close. Everyone else sucks.
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>>149176929
Why is giant trunade forbidden in ocg but they allow HFD
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>>149177068
>>149177085
Raigeki isn't ban worthy though.
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>>149177893
Because Giant Trunade and HFD don't even do comparably the same thing at all, nigga you tarded?
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>>149177975
si
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>>149177975
HFD is a better trunade.
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>>149178215
>this is what scrubs actually believe
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>>149173529
Chaos Emperor Dragon without errata
Dragon Rulers
Imperial Order
The Forceful Sentry
Graceful Charity
Delinquent Duo
Last Turn
Painful Choice
Confiscation
Change of Heart
Snatch Steal
Brain Control
Yata Garasu
Dimension Fusion
Fishborg Blaster
Mind Master
Performages
Some cards I'd like to see off are Heavy Storm/Giant Trunade, Brionac, Metamorphosis, Witch of the Black Forest, Premature Burial, Pot of Avarice, Monster Reborn, Royal Oppression, El Shaddoll Construct, Apoqliphirt Towers, Tellarknight Ptolemaeus, Cyber Stein, Super Rejuvenation,Super Polymerization, Time Seal and Trap Dustshoot but that's never happening
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>>149178215
>card that lets you reuse all of your shit is better than a simply one sided Heavy Storm

Fucking please stop posting. I already feel like this is going to be the next big thing to argue about
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>>149178323
You're really not making a good case for why it isn't.
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>>149178392
Super Poly is the reason Norden is banned TCG side, in not sure I want that here. I like your other choices though.
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>>149178396
>card that lets you reuse all of your shit
But this isn't one-sided, so I'm still not seeing why giant trunade isn't at least at one.
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>>149178594
Your opponent still needs to wait until their turn to reuse it while you can reuse yours right away to help finish them off
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>>149178550
Norden isn't banned in TCG though. And even if you were talking about OCG it is most definitely because of Instant Fusion abuse. They tried limiting IF to 1 over there and it still didn't work so they just had Norden get fucked
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>>149178594
Giant Trunade let's you recycle your face ups, plus it lets you activate new scales for even more effs.
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>>149177942
I'd rather have Monster Reborn at 1.
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>>149178408
Trunade was banned back in the day because in addition to getting rid of the opponent's backrow, it also bounced back to hand powerful shit such as Premature Burial. Do you even understand how cancerous it would be in the Pendulum era?
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>>149178675
Ah yes, because of all the continuous and equip S/T that would break the format if reused that have been topping recently such as
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>this is at 3 OCG side since we're beyond Blue-eyes Ultimate Dragon + Megamorph gg no re and it's only use is Exterio or Last Warrior
>It's still banned TCG side
???
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>>149178838
Premature burial is forbidden though, and face ups can already be searched/recycled with a bunch of different janky techs. Trunade not being at 1 in OCG is retarded.
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>>149178845
Luster Pendulum, the Dracoslayer
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>>149178845
monkeyboard
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Hosting Tag Duel. Gotta go grab something before I start, though.
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>>149179028
This should've been forbidden anyway

>>149179012
And this wouldn't be so bad
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>>149179028
It's hard OPT, you fuck. Now they're going to use you as a strawman. Good job.
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>>149178845
>coveniently leaving out Field Spells
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Ending this argument with no survivors right now. Giant Trunade is non destruction removal that completely circumvents cards like Starlight Road, Stardust Dragon, Artifacts, and anything that would actually plus off being destroyed. It's the exact same upside as Heavy Storm or HFD without any of the potential downside outside of you playing like a complete retard and fucking up an OTK

Now stop goddamn posting you idiot
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What can do to make my desert lolis more consistent?
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>>149179028
Did you read the card?
>Inb4 search and then set a new scale
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>>149179178
Kozmotown and Domain are OPT, are there any field spells that trunade would turn into tier 1

>>149179316
>that completely circumvents cards like Starlight Road, Stardust Dragon, Artifacts
Yeah would hate to powercreep beyond these old ass cards that haven't seen relevant play in years

> and anything that would actually plus off being destroyed

Good, with the amount of floatshit we need a card like Trunade.
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it's a "/dng/ is illiterate mexicans who don't know the difference between opt and once per duel" episode
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>>149179549
Then play tellas and loop triverr
All those chains and CotHs will never go away.
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>it's another "/dng/ actually replies to a fucktard that thinks Trunade is not as strong as HFD" episode
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>>149179787
tell me why I'm wrong, "fucktard"
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>>149179549
>tfw b&
All the other Field Spells have their good effects being hard OPT
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>>149179549
>there should be no protection from mass backrow removal whatsoever because I dun like dat: The Post

Enough. Fucking kek yourself my man
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>>149176313
Reggie was the greatest rival and I'm still quite distressed with how little he's been around
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>>149178845
qliphort scout
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>activate Brilliant Fusion, summon Seraphinite
>activate Giant Trunade, chain Phantom Knights' Wing
>bounce Brilliant Fusion back to hand, Seraphinite is not destroyed because of Wing
>activate it again, summon another Seraphinite
>use my 3 normal summons to synchro summon Nirvana High Paladin
>add Brilliant Fusion to my hand
>summon Seraphinite
>use One for One, summon Tune Torque Gear
>equip it to Seraphinite and summon Tzolkin
>set Solemn Strike, summon Crystal Wing
>have a field of 1 Seraphinite, 1 CWSD, 1 Tzolkin and 1 Nirvana High Paladin
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>>149180120
"Once per turn"

>>149180042
For real, how many decks are you running that have starlight road in them?
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>>149179549
>Trunade powercreeping all those cards that ALL came out AFTER Trunade

"Dumb Mexican doesn't understand what powercreep means: The Post" post again
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>>149176165
There is no contest
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>>149179549
>starlight road
No Synchro deck worth it's salt runs Stardust Dragon.
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>>149180381
Do you know what "once per turn" means, you illiterate pavement ape?
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>>149180373
Subtle Shun is best Shun
For real, can you imagine if this and Seraphanite weren't hard OPT?
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>>149180381
>"Once per turn"

yeah, and?
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>>149180395
Sorry, I forgot to mention that trunade would come back as a new card: "Big Trunade UUUU" and would have a retrain clause that states if a starlight road is bounced back your opponent literally has to suck your dick.
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Still hosting Tag Duel. Need one more. It's my birthday today, by the way. Not to blogpost or anything. Just really happy, especially with all the good YGO news lately.
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>>149180701
>>149180763
How does trunade break the game with scout then?
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>>149180971
Happy birthday, enjoy your duels.
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>>149179317
Stick Pendulums in it.
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>>149181210
>activate scout, pay 800, search something
>Trunade
>Activate scout, pay 800, search
Do you know why scout is at 1?
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>>149180517
Good taste.

>>149181320
Kinky.
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>>149181210
It returns to meta status without selling cards
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>>149181210
>Being this new
People used to run Trampolynx in Qlis, you know.
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>>149181359
Not to mention Kozmos can loop their CotH and Towns while also clearing the opponent's backrow. 1 (one) card shouldn't be able to do all that with no cost.
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>>149181359
Shit I thought he was a hard OPT, still, not that bad all things considering
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>>149181210
when a card says "once per turn do this" then when it leaves the field and comes back you can do it again

when a card says "you can only use the effect of X once per turn" it's called hard OPT and really is once per turn
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>>149181758
Did you just not play back when Qliphorts used to use Trampolynx in thier builds? It was very much bad all things considering, god damn, do you guys even play this game anymore?
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>>149181901
>>149181691
I was out during qlis and came back after towers was banned. I was suggesting that trunade come to one in the ocg, and considering that even with lynx at 3 and qlis still aren't topping like crazy I don't think it'd be that bad.
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>>149182170
They literally aren't running Lynx anymore in either format simply because Scout isn't at 3 anymore. Wow, can any one poster be so ignorant about something? Just stop posting PLEASE
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>>149182170
Because the modern meta qliphort builds are triple demise triple duality with minimal monsters and 1 scout, lynx is useless in that build

trunade on the other hand is useful by itself
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Why are you guys being such bullies to new players, please stop this is a comfy safe space.
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>>149182437
maybe they should stop posting retarded shit thinking they know more than the people here if they're new?
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>>149182437
without this much bullying they'll never remember their OPTs
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>>149182282
If you were speaking in the hypothetical world of 3 scout why the fuck are you responding to me? Scout's semi in OCG and an extra search for 800 wouldn't bring them up to tier 1.
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Guys
Box of Friends Dracoslayer Metalfoes
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>>149182550
I'm not saying I know more than anyone, just not seeing how trunade is gamebreaking at 1.
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>says the guy who made shit guides to try and "help" others
just fuck off already, only one has happened bitchfag
and dont give him the yous dumbos
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>>149182641
Except I was responding to you initially when you were saying that Trunade didn't seem that bad in Qliphorts, THEN I asked if you played during the Lynx + Scout format where the play in question was nearly the exact fucking same as it was back then with Trunade. Again, if you aren't going to follow the convo or if you don't know what you're talking about, just fucking drop the subject and stop posting what is with new posters nowadays being so fucking arrogant?
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>>149182550
Says the fucking tripfag. Why don't you learn proper manners of how to use an Anonymous message board first?
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>>149182978
So you're saying that qlis have dropped lynx because scout is no longer at three and now you're saying they'd definitely run trunade with scout at 2 and trunade at 1?
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>>149183205
The playstyle of the deck nowadays is no where near similar to how it was back then you nincompoop how is this difficult to process? Back then it was an Aggro Stun deck that could switch between slow style play and swarming with a shitton of monsters to now being a JUST a stun deck that barely plays over 10 monsters in the main. If Cards of Demise didn't clue you in on this shift in playstyle then I don't know what can help you. Lynx obviously helped with Aggro plays and Giant Trunade effectively fulfills the near same niche without the playstyle of the fucking deck needing to change

STOP
POSTING
You're wrong, just end it
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>>149183151
how is me using a trip = posting retarded shit thinking they know more than the people here if they're new?

your blind triphate makes you look retarded
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>>149183205
>they'd definitely run trunade with scout at 2 and trunade at 1?

well

yes?

is this even a question
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>>149182658
Make it faggot
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If trunade was at 1 almost fucking everything would run it.
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>>149183672
You're just as new for not being able to follow proper etiquette.
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>>149183470
If they're just a stun deck how would trunade-ing scout for an extra 1 search help, unless there's a stun qli effect I'm missing while skimming the wikia.
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>>149183991
>Why would 2 searches along with non destruction backrow removal be better than just ONE (1) search

I want you to really think about what you're posting for a second
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>>149183672
But you did post retarded stuff several times in the past(I'm not judging you).
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>>149183904
I would figure out a way to put all of the Spell Counters on everything.
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>>149184112
You're not answering what they would be searching for that would break the game. The same shit can be done with lynx and HFD.
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>>149183904
Alost everyone, except one retard, knows that. What is going on anyway, it seems like we've hit a shitposting stride and need to shutdown every single retard that posts about stupid shit now.

ABCs dropping Galaxy Soldier and somehow losing to Frogs, Frogs somehow dominating the meta with their 4 tops, Quillbolt retard anon, anti netdecking anon, ygodrcuck, and now this Giant Trunade shit and even more that I'm obviously missing. I'm not complaining too much since as always, the threads move a little faster thanks to these arguments but what in the fuck is going on lately?
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>>149183904
Ah yes, the ol' Tribe-Infecting Virus-Pot of Greed litmus test.
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>>149184413
My theory is that the steady stream of Shunposting has led to the arrival of actual retards and/or people becoming retards.
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>>149184413
>Alost everyone, except one retard, knows that
I don't think you've been following along if you think that I ever contended this.
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>>149184342
>>Lynx
Oh my fucking God, they literally cannot fucking play Lynx anymore because the deck isn't suited towards playing aggressively. What in the fuck is wrong with you, read Cards of Demise
>HFD
Giant Trunade isn't destruction removal we've already covered why this is actually important. And what is with this "D-doesn't break the game" meme shit? Motherfucker that is just ONE example of ONE deck utilizing it in a way that's fucking broken. As previously stated absolutely every thing would run it and there's no counters to Trunade as opposed to HFD, can you process this for me PLEASE
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>>149175270
Yeah that was the typical combo until people found out the degenarcy of the mystic dragon combos which imp was MUCH better.
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How pissed will people be if Tewart hits Kirin or SR?
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Rate my CAC
Ejected Magic
Trap Card
Target one Spell or Trap card on the field. Return that target to the hand.
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>>149184686
Look at what I'm replying to. The scenario the other anon presented was that they were getting two searches with back row removal thus making them broken when the same combo can already be done now if someone wanted to run that set up. Why don't you reading instead of trying to straw man the fuck out of anyone who disagrees with you.
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>>149184413
Game is 'dying'/stale, so lots of regular players, plus it's summer, so y'know.
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>>149185000
Into the trash it goes.
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>>149184794
Nobody should get mad when cards that see play in competitive decks get hit.
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>this only took me one day to do
desu i dont mind circlejerking with these people that much
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>>149184794
SR?
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>>149185006
>same combo can already be done now
Except they fucking can't which I keep establishing but you keep ignoring. Qliphorts cannot play Lynx not because Scout isn't at 3 and the deck is no longer suited to playing fucking aggressively thanks to Demise. Do you not realize how very sparsely Qliphorts SS nowadays? Another point is that you're legitimately comparing a 2 card combo that can effectively work with whatever version in whatever format to a 3 CARD COMBO that only works with one previous version of the deck and somehow not understanding just how fucking stupid that is.

Again, while I don't understand why you even still keep trying to be right about at least one point, please, for the sake of this entire thread STOP FUCKING POSTING
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>>149185159
Yeah but it will fuck up Metalfoes.
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>>149185000
make it a Quick-Play Spell and it'd be pretty good.
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>>149156039
Structure Deck Marik R
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>>149185000
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>>149185387
>hfd
>scout
>search
>lynx normal summon
>return scout
>scout
>search

I'm not seeing how this is a case for trunade to stay forbidden when no qli deck is going to run LAO to search the one-of trunade.

>still keep trying to be right about at least one point

I think all the condescension in my posts are being put there by you. I'm genuinely trying to figure this out.
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>>149186025
This probably has some use in the current meta.
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When will there be more generic fusion support?
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Is Polymereaction good in Metalfoes?
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>>149186051
>actually talking about NORMAL SUMMONING Trampolynx

Holy fuck that's it, you're done. I'm done. this conversation is through. I am not going to belabor myself once again with someone who has no idea what he's talking about and yet continues to make stupid arguments for a format he didn't even play in and has no idea how the deck in question even functions.

Fucking enough

Also
>still comparing a 3 card combo to a 2 card combo
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>>149186051
You're comparing a 3 (THREE) card combo to a2 (TWO) card combo. And the 2-card combo is strictly better because it's much harder to stop *and* more consistent.
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>Playing Prophecy with giant trunade
>Activate Spellbook of Judgment
>Activate all my Spellbooks then chain Giant Trunade
>Activate all my Spellbooks again
gg
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>>149186591
It's undeniably better, but I'm not seeing how it's broken.
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>>149183962
>You're just as new for not being able to follow proper etiquette.
Dunno what etiquette you're talking about, besides i used to post way back as an anon, i just wanted a trip for several reasons
>>149184147
Oh yeah i've posted a shit ton of retarded stuff and I probably will keep posting retarded shit, difference is that I know that I could be wrong and I don't think im above anyone (yugioh deckbuilding wise)
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>>149186832
For easy reference (although not a direct comparison), the difference between a 2 card combo and a 3 card combo is the difference between Magical Explosion FTK and Blasting the Ruins FTK
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>>149186832
It's broken because it's a card that you would have no reason not to run, just like Pot of Greed. Name me one deck that wouldn't play Giant Trunade.
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>>149187114
Not that guy, but psyframe would be one I think.
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>>149186948
>Dunno what etiquette you're talking about

You're only supposed to use a trip when it's absolutely vital to identify yourself. For example, if you are contributing something important to a thread you need a way to distinguish yourself so other people know. You're not doing anything like that so in essence you're just a filthy attention whore.
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>>149187114
Exodia/Chain Burn
Although those are both super degenerate decks
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>>149187114
Fire Fists wouldn't because they'd lose the ATK gain from their Formations and the biggest ATK gains are from Traps while the most used Formation is Tenki which is hard OPT.
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>>149186948
>Kaiju
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>>149185000
needs a colon after the target clause LEARN YOUR PSCT REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>149187114
The same could be said about monster reborn and HFD. It'd be good, there's no denying that, but it wouldn't be so good in any one deck that it'd break the game.
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>>149187408
>Fire Fists wouldn't want to re-use Tenkis

>>149187246
I main PSY-Frames and I would throw in Trunade in a fucking heartbeat
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tfw you blind allure into two allures
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>>149187360
>You're only supposed to use a trip when it's absolutely vital to identify yourself. For example, if you are contributing something important to a thread you need a way to distinguish yourself so other people know. You're not doing anything like that so in essence you're just a filthy attention whore.
That's actually plain wrong, people have been tripping for years for their own reasons, not once has moot stated the "proper" way to use trips. Someone end this meme
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What cards would push HEROes to tier 1?
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>>149187648
>blind allure
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What did he mean by this?
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>>149186802
wtf americans
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>>149187746
my only chance I wasn't getting any monsters and I was going to lose next turn.
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>>149187710
Any card that gives them a win condition.
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>>149187901
The dude with the shirt on inside out was probably asked to do so because of the logo no being a sponsor.
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>>149187819
"I miss DN"
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>>149187513
>monster reborn

not with pendulums
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>>149187819
He wants to play GOAT Control.
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>>149187819
There so many salty faggots like that one.
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>>149187819
Bring Fluffals
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>>149168014
jesus, worst Darklord deck so far
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>>149187408
Stop posting any time.
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>>149187819
Fluffals, Glad Beasts, Maskchange.dek, total Beasts, etc.
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>>149187819
I bet he'll add "No Fluffal" next.
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>>149188624
I've never posted a time.
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>>149189219
>No synch/pend/xyz/monster/spell/trap
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>>149188027
You were playing Abyss Actors, of course you were going to lose next turn.
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>>149189505
Skull Servant deck that focuses on stalling with low level monsters until you can draw King with 12k ATK?
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>>149189719
>Skull Servant
I clearly said no monsters
>d/c
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>>149189925
Play by the anime rules and treat fusion monsters as normally summonable. Gotta have that Fusionist beatdown.
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>playing Brilliant Madolches
>open Garnet 3 games in a row
Should I just replace the second Garnet with a second Double Summon?
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>>149187819
>>149189219

is it too hard for those idiots to say "only DM era cards"?
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>>149189505
I'll fill a deck with the most meta of tokens.
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OCG has
>Monster Reborn
>Cards Destruction
>Allure at 3
>Pot of Avarice

Dorklords confirmed for meta
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>>149190480

yeah, unless you can use the shit you get from hand the ratios for brilliant fusion are 1 gem monster and 1 fusion bait

Use another Instant Fusion
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>>149167326
>FLUFFALS ARE SHIT
You're shit
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TOKEN META WHEN.
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>>149191476
when Konami feels like it
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>>149191476
They tried (but not really) with planes and they fucked up stupendously
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>>149191476
SUPPORT MEEEEEEEE
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>>149191647
>instead of tokens we just got one meta plane
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>>149191647
Remember that Konami made Rituals, the most bricky and minusy summoning method, strong. Konami can make Tokens meta whenever the fuck they feel like.

The just haven't felt like it yet.
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>>149191476
goat token metamorphosis
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>>149191885
So what you're saying is we just need a token boss.
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>>149191885
I want Fusions to be meta.
Konami better not fuck up the rest of the Ancient Gear support.
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>>149191476
there is raccon
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>>149191885
Just print the CaC archetype I made. Main deck monsters all L2 'Trap' monsters, alongside the 1/2 main deck Futa Tuners. When the Futa 'synchs' with the Traps, they leave a "Stain" Token. Which helps the S/T, also the bigger Synchros gain effects based on the number of Tokens used to make it.
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>>149192049
rip nephilim
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>>149192265
at least its not over yet
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>>149192565
>neph is officially a tellarknight who ate tierra
>ritual beasts are still alive to be the fusion archetype
It feels over.
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>>149192565
Tellars are fucking lame though
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>>149192565
Infernoid support WHEN?
A continuous spell that lets you send 1 Infernoid to the grave for every Infernoid banished that turn.
>>
Should I buy 3 Royal commands? And pre preps?
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>>149193145
>not buying 3 nobleman of crossout
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>>149193145
3 of every Cloudians
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>>149192963
Or a themed dd burial
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>>149193145
Remember to buy 3 quaking mirror force.
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When is cupidity getting imported?
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>>149193946
>imported
nigga it's a main set card
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>>149193946
Tuesda- wait which general is this again?
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>>149193946
>I literally don't know how booster packs work: The Post
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>>149193145
read
>>149158465
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What if you use Cold Feet and combo with Magic Refpanel?
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>>149195107
Someone topping with that combo would be the apex of meme magic from which there would be no further way up.
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>>149195107
http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Card_Tips:Cold_Feet
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FINALLY I AM FREE FROM MY 1 DAY BAN
TIME TO SHITPOST

Rate my InvisiSPYRAL deck
>>
>testing deck against the AI
>open with great hands
>test same deck against a person
>maximum brick
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>>149195776
i cri everytim

this is also what it feels like moving from percy to devpro
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>>149195776
>literally opened two Lucifer and three Twin Twisters earlier today

PERCYYYYY
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>>149195993
>play 2 twin twister
>never see it
>play 3
>open 3

PERCYYYYYYYYYY
>>
http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm29294263
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>>149195776
>testing against AI
>always topdeck whatever card it needs to screw me
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Anyone got the image of all the ABC tops?
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>>149196963
Right here famalam. I don't think I'm going to update this anymore untila banlist drops in OCG. ABC builds do not seem like they're going to change much over the next few months
>>
How does Tier organization work?
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>>149198019
ABC is going to be a lot different here, where we have
>no Exciton
>no Nyarla into Azzatoth
All your stun is going to have to be your traps. Unless you're cool like me and just run the Torque Tune variant anyways because it's more fun then Helmetknights 2.0 ft. Buster Dragon
>>149198253
In casual discussion, it's how people see different decks. In actuality, it's based off % of tops the deck has. I.E. DRulers were T0, because they had more than 65% of tops. (If my sources were correct.)
>>
Anyone else playing abyss actors? whats your ratios, mine are fucking horrible and I have no idea what to do with the deck
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>>149198839
>replace Exciton with different Rank 4
>Replace Azzatoth and Nyarla with different Rank 4s

Wow so hard
>>
>>149199086
>just replace them
What R4 did I miss in TCG that
>nukes field
or
>stops all monster effects that turn
>>
>>149199346
Well we unfortunately can't do that here in the TCG (yet in the case of Azzatoth) but it doesn't change the fact that the deck isn't going to be "a lot" different here. It simply lost a couple of its tools. It still has access to CDI w/ Galaxy Soldier mind you
>>
>>149199550
Good point. I'm just mad because
>deck now comes out in August
>TTG is in INOV, in NOVEMBER
Also
>August
>TDIL
>DOL2
>Yugi/Kaiba SDs
RIP savings, I want to build MPYZ, MP Lunalights, Vampire's ft. Sag- SOLITUDE, Cardians, Cyber Angels AND ABC. I already preordered a box of TDIL, but I also want one of DOL3, and 3x Kaiba SD.
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Anyone up for tag duels?
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>>149199958
pull good with TDIL and you can make enough money to afford all of them
>>
>>149198839
ABC w/GS&Transmodify will probably be the popular build once it gets here.
>>
>>149198019
time to run reaper
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>>149200280
The main reason I bought the box was to get at least 1 Desires, on top of Metalfoes. The only money cards would be the Secret DM cards.
What all IS going cashmoney in TDIL?
>>149200405
I'm not buying 3x Transmodify, GS and Infinity. That's why I'm sad TTG isn't here until INOV.
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>>149200589
Desires
Cyclone
Dark Magician Shit
Metalfoes
people hyping Subterrors
It has a good amount of stuff that people want, it's probably one of the better boxes to come out in a while.
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I should probably post the pre-INOV versions of the deck too since that's what we're going to be getting. Ah shit and I also need to quit procrastinating on the Blue-Eyes shit ah FUCK AND I promised to do the Metalphosis tops pre-INOV God send help
>>
Tell us more about quillbolt.
>>
Do you guys like Kristya in Darklords? She tends to lock me out just as much as she locks my opponent out, and othertimes shes just a fat brick.
>>
>>149200857
It would be good if it were a Beast-Type
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>>149200079
If you host it, I'l join.
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>>149200589
>I'm not buying 3x Transmodify, GS and Infinity. That's why I'm sad TTG isn't here until INOV.

I know this feel. I'm thinking about building ABC and since I play Cyber Dragons IRL I already have some of the cards (namely CDI), but the prices on cards like Transmodify are starting to piss me off.

I seriously hope GS is reprinted in DOL3.
>>
What if Terraforming to 1?
Hurts Monarchs, Kozmo and hurts some Odd-Eyes builds
Preemptively hits ABC to make them a lot less dominant in the upcoming meta.

Thoughts?
>>
Is none of the metalfoes stuff rarity bumped? Im surprised.
>>
>>149201253
It would hurt, but people would just start running Demise of the Land to fill in the gap.
>>
>>149201253
>Hurts Monarchs, Kozmo
Shut up retard.
>>
>>149201361
ABCs would run Planet Pathfinder instead. LEvel 4 Machine, so it's searchable by Gigant.
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>>149201729
It hurts Kozmo though
>>
Ok so I'm slowly getting over the huge shock of Navigation and Circle being secret. What is the cheapest you guys think they could get? I know they're secrets, they're good cards, and they're nostalgiabait but I still want a good estimate of how much I might have to pay for a playset of each.
>>
How do I play Burning Abyss?
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Proudly presenting:
BOX OF FRIENDS METALFOES DRACOSLAYER
someone help me I feel it's a good idea but I suck at building Pendulum decks
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>>149202017
people are going to pull tons trying to get Desires and the deck isn't good until eternal soul comes out, dont expect them to be too expensive.
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>>149202017
Look at Black Stone of Legend. I'm sorry anon but your wallet is going to cry.
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>we were talking about Trampolynx earlier
>nobody mentioned how good 3 Lynx was in Qliphort decks

baka /dng/
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>>149202458
Well to be fair Black Stone was from the time when we didn't have a guaranteed holo per pack. But I still expect these to be fairly pricey because it's DM.
>>
I'M SURE OLD MAN KOMONEY WILL DROP THE BANLIST ANY DAY NOW, NYEH SQUIDWARD?
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>>149203023
I hope they don't mutilate the current meta decks, just push them out of Tier 1.
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Someone post Abyss Actors
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>>149203090
BA and Monarch deserve to die. They deserve to be savaged; mutilated, utterly destroyed. I want to open up a Monarch deck YGOpro and see more banned/limited cards than i would with my Chaos Control or OCG EMEM deck.
I want them utterly destroyed.
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>>149203251
Easy there anon.
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>>149203170
Replace Heels with Sassy and One for One with Changing Room
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I'm actually going to make/post the new thread at 750. Please don't make a duplicate. Tyty
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>>149203458
Man, your deck feels very weird. Honestly I feel like dropping the 1-8 cards and simply running Metalfoes with the level 4s.
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Sekrit tek.
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>>149204285
it should, it's pretty shitty.
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>>149204504
With what?
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>>149204548
summon breaker?
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>>149204546
I don't even think it's shitty as a deck, I just feel like the level 1s and 2s honestly don't do enough for your deck to warrant so many of them. You open a hand of mainly 1s and 2s and it feels awful.

>>149204606
Sounds interesting, I suppose, in maybe a niche anti-meta deck.
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>>149204548
No idea. That's why it's a secret.
>>
/dng/-"Dante must die"
>>
750
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>>149205338
Tyty, new thread
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>>149204504
double secret tech

Literally easy searchable maxx C
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>>149206268
Oh boy!
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>>149201027
Tribute Kristya if it's locking you out.
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