/gsg/ - Grand Strategy General

Reminder to report and ignore shitposting.

Incoming severe steam group butthurt.

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Th for Codreanu

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Lü Feng Xian

xth for Reformed Paganism isn't a Meme

Give me a country and objective for hoi3.

>>149103009
Communist China.
Conquer China.

>>149102913
Yes it is.

About to start playing CK2 with the Horse Lords and Legacy of Rome DLCs, any tips for a Victoria 2 player?

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reminder

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>xth for Reformed Paganism isn't a Meme

>>149102913
Wew

So what is /gsg/ opnion on the After The End mod for CK2.

It's a good concept with some nice ideas, but the mod itself feels broken and incomplete even down to the most technical levels(constant lag and crashes), which is a shame considering it's potential.

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NICKY

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>[V2] - Legacy of Slovenia v1.01*°
http://pastebin.com/72Yhqm5i

>>[V2] - unHPM v1.5*°
http://pastebin.com/zK3YrpNx

>>[V2] - Robmod v2.5*
http://pastebin.com/MHswMhZi

>>[V2] - Visegradmod v3.2
http://pastebin.com/C8swKB9t

>> Updated Waggle Pastebin*
http://pastebin.com/33A7wXdB

* The R&I may sperg out if you download this
° Talex and his Grandi Youth may harass you if you download this

>>149103126
Don't underestimate diplomacy and get that breeding program going on.

>>149103282
There will never be a man as handsome as based Nicky-poo

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>>149103283
>Removed Romania-Hungary
>Removed Poland-Hungary
>Removed Theodore
>Remove US states minors
>Removed Byzantium
Reminder that unHPMlad needs to FIX HIS SHIT

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>>149103418
Makes me sad

>>149103283
>not including liquor and bureaucrats mod

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Does anybody have a download link to New World Order for Vicotria 2? An up to date one at that.

>>149103460
What a jokester! We need politicians as handsome and fun-loving as Nicky today instead of retarded cucks like Trudeau and ugly burgerclaps like Trump

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>>149103282
>>149103418
>>149103489
He seems like a nice but quiet guy, but a bit of a pushover

>be Japan
>start great war
>China, Indonesia, India, some other big countires against me
>Call Korea and Aus to help me
>Korean Navy defending my Island while I wait for American peace treaty with poo-in-loos to end
>It finally ends
>Time to kick these chinks back into the mountains
>bring US into war
>one week later
>Great War is over
>USA accepted the terms that Indonesia put on the table
>literally just to humiliate me
FUCKING AMERICANS THIS IS WHY PEARL HARBOR HAPPENED

>Willy wasn't liked even by his own grandmother

"little heart or Zartgefühl [tact] – and ... his conscience & intelligence have been completely wharped"

Burnt out on my Lithuanian meme run when my sixth PCskill 18+ guy got killed by an inbred nigger with -1

What should I do next? Unite the Celts? Create Grossoccitaniums? Play a Christian Moor and help the Reconquista from the inside?

>>149102913

Nice meme

is it possible for your culture to spread if your liege is another culture?

>>149103871
Start as a Finnish Tengri nomad and conquer India

>>149104045
the hyperwar begins now

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>>149101323
>>149092975
Divergances AAR lad again, asking for votes or people wanting to know more info.

Listing of every region,
>>148896669
>>148897243
>>148898756
>>148900418
>>148905698
>>148907308
>>148909389

Unless I got this wrong, we are at three votes for Macedonia, two for Illyria (Croatia), one for Courland, and one for some other that I forgot, and no one has mentioned again.

>>149104476
No one cares.

I had some more hang-ups with the CBs, but thankfully they're all fixed now and I've tested every religious CB successfully. I also thankfully thought to fix the Religious Reconquest CB, which wasn't on my original list of CBs to modify. That means almost every Christian realm in the world will always have a religious CB they can use against a Messalian realm, which should achieve my goal of making things difficult admirably.

By default the Messalian religion isn't able to call Crusades, so I've modified the files to give them the ability and am currently assigning Crusade weights to various Kingdoms. Since there's only about 135 years left in the game there will only be time for about 6 Crusades, and even if they're all successful that's still only six Kingdom titles that can be targeted, so I'll likely only be assigning Messalian Crusade weight for about 10 Kingdoms. The Kingdoms I do assign Crusade weight for will be based on the current hearts of Messalianism in the world, in the HRE and Jerusalem. That will mean the targets will likely be Poland, France, Denmark, Egypt, Rum, Armenia, Nikaia, Thessalonika, Al-Jazira, and Iraq, although I might expand that list to include Morea, Georgia, and Arabia. The Crusade weights will vary, but the three top targets will likely be Egypt, Nikaia, and Thessalonika, with France and Poland following immediately after at equal values.

I'm also planning on modifying Catholic Crusade weights to refocus it primarily on Jerusalem and the Holy Roman Empire, but I'm not yet sure whether I'll change anything significantly there (the HRE already has very high weight assigned to it).

Either way, the work that I'm doing right now is effectively busywork; I'll be done within a couple hours and writing new posts. The AAR is still on schedule for opening back up on Friday.

>>149104548
>>149104476
I care, anon. Not enough to vote on anything, but your posts are better than this cocksuckers shitposting

>>149104476
Anything north german.

>>149104693

Reminder to report and ignore shitposting.

>>149104549
Looking forward

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>>149104693
I assure you they'll be better once I get an actual country to play. Macedonia seems to be leading. I may pick them.

Thank you for your supporter.

>>149104708
That could mean many things anon.

* Scandinavia is trying to achieve total control of the Baltic, and considers the Elbians' interests to be theirs. And as one of the chief defenders of Protestantism, will be involved in German affairs regardless. I'm not sure, but they might be able to actually work towards making North German an accepted culture later on.

* Courland is an interesting one, in that while it has little territory still left to it at home and is sphered by Scandinavia, it has colonies in Africa and the New World, and can form either Livonia or the League of Berlin -> German Empire.

* Prussia is a duchy satellite of the PLC, and while it has some power, it is still merely a satellite. But it can form the League of Berlin (apparently NGF of this time) like other North German powers.

I suppose I should mention now that the cultural division of Germany isn't merely North German (or Elbian) or South German (or Danubian), but also Rhenish, who are largely in Burgundy's sphere of influence.

Besides Hannover (who is still very weak comparatively, and a Bohemian sphereling), there doesn't seem to be much opening for an independent North German state. The Bohemians (being also the Holy Roman Emperor) more or less have a lock on many of the states of Germany, and further are often backed up by Bavaria and Austria, the most powerful of the German states.

>>149105632
Prussia

>>149105632
What is this from?

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my lads i failed to retake france as national france in kaiserreich
please tell me something good to shake off this depression

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>>149106030
France is going full fascist soon

>>149105632
Why don't you create a series of polls, and instead of linking to various posts with the information just link an imgur album with all of the information and mapmodes in it, as what I did here with start dates: http://imgur.com/a/cfxnT

It's not ideal as in most people who voted in my polls didn't even look at the damn albums but it's a lot easier than trying to get people to post in the thread with their votes. People will vote in polls, but not if they've got to bother making a post.

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>>149105932
It's Schwarzesmarken, a Muv Luv thing.

>>149106030
How did you fail? Also, you weren't likely to be able to grab the whole thing even under best of circumstances. That's why you agree to a divided France for now, build up, and show the Hun what's up a few years down the line. Just be sure to help the English retake Britain. The Britain that emerges will be a great help to your cause.

>>149106134
>Kosher Civil Nationalism = Fascist now
wew

>>149106134
People said the same thing when Le Penn lost the last election too.

They said the same thing about Hofer when he lost Austria

>>149106504
>lost Austria

Why did they make it so hard to tell what you actually control and what you don't in CK2? They map modes suck fucking cock and I can't tell shit about who is who.

>>149106504
>On 1 July, the results of the second round of voting were annulled after the Constitutional Court of Austria found that electoral rules (as stipulated in federal election law) had been disregarded in 14 out of 20 contested adminstrative districts (from a total of 117), resulting in over 77,900 absentee votes being improperly counted, however without any indication of votes having been fraudulently manipulated.[4] The second round re-vote will take place on 2 October 2016.[5]

Should it be R&I lads or RandI

>>149106756
>ctrl + left click on your realm

Anyone know some fun minors to play in HOI4? I was thinking Hungary or Romania but wasn't sure

>>149106817
>>149106627
You nazis are delusional if you think it was a fraud. He will lose again because the people of Austria are smarter than that

<149107635
Thank you for Correcting the Record

>>149105849
Okay, a vote for Prussia.

>>149106149
That sounds about right AARnon, I'll do that next time.

What are you voting for?

>>149104549
Godspeed.

Does the hoi4 game file in the pastebin work with tunngle or hamachi?

How does the Boshin War work if another power annexes Imperial Japan before it happens?
Does the Shogunate just get to peacefully unite the rest of the archipelago?

Are we getting new portraits for CK2?

>>149107759
>What are you voting for?
I don't know. I'm not sure how much support their is for the breaking apart (or at least extreme internal instability) of realms like the Dual Monarchy. I think it would be a lot of fun to see an AAR there, but only if they were very unstable and you had to work hard to keep them together. Otherwise it would be far too easy.

Otherwise I would vote for someone in Persia, probably the Safavids, with a Boer state as my backup vote.

>>149107768
Thanks anon. My testing just ended, so I'm actually starting right now.

HPM

does anyone actually understand how external migration works?

does it take liferating into account? the files make it look like it doesn't

does it take terrain type into account?

why do immigrants always choose the usa even when you cheat and have every social and political reform in 1836?

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>be the Netherlands
>romania calls me for backup against a war with russia and bulgaria
>decide to join so I can liberate azerbaijan oil for the shell corporation
>send army to romania
>britain declares war and joins the russians, drags in hungary and the ottomans
>army in romania is now surrounded on all sides
>sweden and france declare war on russia
>germany declares war on sweden and romania
>spain is in my sphere but leaves my alliance for the british
>call portugual to fight spain
>colombia joins the russian alliance and invades the panama canal
>japan joins the german side
>a great war forms but there's also 3 other smaller wars currently happening between participants of the great war

I have no idea what the fuck is going on

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>>149108408
AFAIK, it is extremely hard - only Anglois, Welsh, and Breton are accepted. Looked on the forums, there's a lot of events to that decide your policies between English/Irish and French/Provencal populations.

I did save this from earlier, which kind of inspired me to look at the mod.

>>149108486
>does it take liferating into account?
Yes
>does it take terrain type into account?
In HPM it does.
>why do immigrants always choose the usa even when you cheat and have every social and political reform in 1836?
Many factors have to do with it. In HPM it's about being or not at war, ammount of empty factories, unemployement, etc.

Is the Warhammer mod for CK2 any good?

Would getting a treaty port as La Plata be too stupid of an idea?

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>>149108854
I had a blast with it when I played it a long time ago. I recommend it.

>>149108815

So industrialization = more immigrants?

>>149108991
I think so, yeah, if you have empty factories it will attract people to work in them.

>>149108764
I'd put my vote there, then, although I'd still be worried about you becoming a powerhouse late-game. If the mod does allow you to accept multiple cultures late-game I'd work the backstory of the AAR in such a way that you never do so, just to keep your state unstable and continue to provide yourself a challenge. I definitely learned my lesson as far as difficulty is concerned; it's an integral part of an AAR.

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>tfw only now I notice that I don't have enough commerce raiders and that I should've puppeted more than the Massina meme to consolidate the Sahara
Can't wait for a whole fucking Great War against Italy, Germany and Russia for fucking West Sahara desu

>>149108854
It currently crashes a lot because apparently the current map is too big and the Paradox code bugs out pathing or something. Not worth playing until the next patch, which will supposedly fix it.

What should your late game composition be once you get tanks and planes?

Is the 7 years war mod dead?

>>149109278
4 inf/4 art/2 tanks/2 planes

>>149109865
Why don't tanks just straight up replace infantry? Is it just cost?

>>149109865
>more than 10 units
dropped

>>149110029
infantry has better defense

Is there anyone putting together a HOI4 Mod based on the Illuminati game? I think that would kick some pretty good ass.

>>149109865
>arty
>once you get planes

I can't be the only one who just can't be assed doing warfare in Victoria 2. The enemy is able to retreat into ENEMY provinces, into NEUTRAL provinces where they have access, it's a pain in the ass to destroy stacks, managing your mobilization as a large country is a tremendous pain in the ass, etc.

i despise all of this

>>149109865
This

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>>149110396
>Don't have any troops in a region
>Surprised when the enemy retreats there safely

>>149110396
Mobilisation is certainly crap

I have never found warfare problematic apart from that though

>>149110396
just don't go to war

t.swiss

>>149102568
CK2>>>>>EU4>>>Vic2: Waiting Simulator.
:D

>>149110506

cmon senpai, you know that's not good gameplay. there is already a mechanic for 'control' completely independent of soldiers, yet this doesnt play into movement at all, even though it totally should. if you are retreating, you shouldnt be retreating deep into my territory so i have to hunt down your shitty stack of 9000 men

not to mention the fact that actually organizing a broad defense in depth strategy like youre proposing is really fucking annoying in this game

>>149110527
>Sweden has literally been neutral longer than Switzerland
>But only Switzerland gets the meme neutrality modifier that makes it impossible to invade without going over the infamy limit

>>149110714
>:D
back2leddit lad

>>149110738
>broad defense in depth strategy
What is that lad just have stacks of 30/60/90 and move them into enemy territory works everytime.

>>149110835
trolled xD

>>149110765
t.johan

>>149110527
>>149110765
>Belgium literally never ever started a war on its entire history
>not even mentioned in this conversation

>>149111082
The difference is that Belgians are inherently violent and evil people, the only reason they haven't started any wars is because all their neighbours are far more powerful.

>>149111082
belgians instead get their kicks out of genociding africans

>>149111239
Isn't that applicable to the Swiss as well?

>>149111082
Belgians had colonies, so they are responsible for any and all deaths that occurred under their rule in those colonies. And seeing how during colonial times, the natives were systematically slaughtered, they arent exactly innocent

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>>149102790
God's work lad

>>149111473
No, Germans (inc. Swiss) are an industrious and overly serious people but not violent.

>>149111534
>the natives were systematically slaughtered
Epic meme my lad.

>>149109278
all planes

>>149112014
Well there were definitely handled systematically.

>>149109278
all irregulars

>>149110738
The enemy retreating on to your territory is advantageous, as they will take an attrition cycle as soon as they get there and if they happen to be unopposed at the end of the month they get a weaker reinforcement as well as another attrition cycle. If you're mad that your military isn't strong enough to follow for the stack wipe, maybe you should reconsider whom you are attacking.

>>149110396
>he doesn't form mobilized brigade walls to stop the enemy from moving
>he doesn't use single units to surround important battles and ensure enemy stack is killed

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what the fug

>>149113242
>he doesn't delete the AI army to spare the AI having all of their soldier pops killed and being unfairly gimped for the rest of the game.

>>149113453
>Sigmaringen

>>149113242
>surround important battles
This is how i used to win against UK as unciv China in vanilla, you could eventually get their entire military into a single tile, surround it with singles, and then rotate your 500+ brigades in and out of the grinder until the UK stack ran out of org and died.

>>149113453
The whole world is anticipating the future.

>>149113453
have you considered not being a faggot

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>>149113523
>cheating

>>149113453
I think this is a bug, I started a game as the US and had everyone at -200 with me

>>149113523
>he doesn't delete the AI country to spare the AI mismanaging it and being unfairly gimped for the rest of the game

>>149113782
>he doesnt delete the game from his hard drive to spare the AI the displeasure of existing in a objectively flawed environment

>>149113012

i guess that's fair, i concede to you

>playing Qing in newest HPM
>as of 1850 there has yet to be a single unit of wool that has reached far enough down the market for an unciv to purchase
>supply: ~2000 demand: ~7000
>Japan doesn't have a single brigade to their name because I killed them all in our first war and they can't build more
>not one of my poor pops (i.e. 90% of the populace) can meet their life needs
>bigger rebellions than normal, presumably due to no life needs being met
I'm just going to swap one of the big tea provinces for wool, fuck this is ridiculous.

>>149114114
>he doesn't bomb paradox hq to spare the AI from being created

>he doesn't delete other people's lives to spare them from their future guilt of not achieving anything relevant at all

>>149114378
I agree uncivs need some changes in HPM

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>>149113602

>>149104476
Macedonia

>>149114378
trob

>>149114378

not enough wool on the market for uncivs to make brigades is fucking unacceptable and a huge problem in HPM, it needs to be fixed ASAP

>>149114605
This didn't happen in the previous version, sure there would sometimes be a year or two where you couldn't get any as big nations went on buying sprees but if you just set the manual purchase amount to 2000 you'd have it soon enough. Now there's literally none. Maybe this is what he meant by "mostly set needs back to vanilla values".

>>149114378
This, more wool is desperately needed, specially in China, and maybe the Shogunate

>>149114378
>HPM tries to fix one thing
>completely fucks up something else
When will HPM realize the economy isn't something to toy with?

>>149115294
I've looked into it, and there was no wool production in Japan before their westernization. Even after it, it didn't take off.

http://www.fragmentsmag.com/en/2014/06/ami-tsumuli-4/

And apparently, there was no wool production in China during Vic's timespan either. Kinda weird that a product that's useful mostly to uncivs was never actually used by them.

http://www.uq.edu.au/agriculture/docs/CAEG/Wool-industry-in-China-eng.pdf

>>149115881

Wool can represent things other than wool. It's "soldier mana" and it's needed to make soldiers. Uncivs need wool regardless of pdf files to replicate the fact that uncivs historically were able to produce armies

>>149115294
>>149115881
Shit, forgot to take name off

>>149115881
I don't see anything in the second document suggesting victorian China didn't use or produce wool

>>149116047
wew lad

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Who here has united the world under the British Empire? If so, what ideology did you go for? Do members in your faction count?

>>149115881
That document is specifically referring to "fine wool", as they are contrasting the wool output of China to that of Australia. They say they imported sheep to produce fine wool, more similar to that which is produced in Australia, in the 1950s. It neither explicitly nor implicitly supports the idea that there was no domestic wool production in China prior to WWII.
Unfortunately I can't find anything on wikipedia that says anything about wool in China and I'm too lazy to search elsewhere, although there's a 1905 illustration of a Tibetan spinning wool.

How do I use the console to make a province-specific event fire in a specific province? I tried event [eventid] [provid] but it didn't work.

>>149116472
SHUT THE FUCK UP WE"RE TALKING ABOUT WOOL RIGHT NOW

>>149114378
Japan has one wool producing province, Toyama, so I don't see how they would lack it so completely as to not be able to build an army.

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>>149116472
>Not uniting the world as the Israeli Empire
I'm so fucking ready.

>>149117047
oyyyyy veyyyy

>>149114431
>he doesn't fluff Johan's somalian boyfriend so that Johan can have an enjoyable morning and work at full efficiency every day on improving his games

Can we talk about Stellaris in this thread as well?

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>>149117047
Teach those goyim not to mess with God's chosen people again!

>>149116006
>uncivs historically were able to produce armies
Proof? HPM can't accept such wild un-sourced claims

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>>149117204

>>149117176
Which Stellaris topic; about how it's missing management tools and map features that have been in Paradox games for 10 fucking years or the over the top Social Justice agenda?

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>>149116915
We're talking about HPM lad.

>>149117474
So the HPMIDF's claim that HPM doesn't mess with the economy at all and is exactly the same as vanilla for uncivs turns out to be false?

I'm undeniably shocked right now.

>>149116915
Why does wool even matter?

liquor

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nice

>>149117585
...
He literally says in the patch notes that he's been changing the economy, I don't think the HPMIDF has been claiming otherwise.

>>149117641
Because liquor is an advanced good that can only be produced by civilized folk

>>149117706
Honestly what did you expect from paracucks

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How do I get good at DH my lads?

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>>149117386

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>>149117745
lad...

>>149117730
A few threads ago I said that HPM made it a lot harder for uncivs to supply and support themselves and I was bombarded with assurances that everything was perfectly fine and HPM had changed nothing at all for uncivs.

>>149117806
Gotta make big stacks to get big

>>149117806
Never upgrade infantry past 1932 or 36.

Make long production lines of pure inf, and long production lines of art attachment (separate is better).

Promote leaders to field marshal and have an HQ nearby so you can attack with (IIRC) 30 divisions.

Always attack with overwhelming numbers and win.

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>>149117806
This is all you gotta do m8

>>149117910
Before July 9 any unciv could get wool if they set the manual purchase and waited a few months.

>>149118091
>Never upgrade infantry past 1932 or 36.
why

>>149117474
>>149117585
OK, he removed the wool from that province for whatever reason, I'm playing an old save with an old version of HPM right now and Japan has wool, so he changed it recently.

>>149118146
The upgrade itself is expensive.

The division gains almost nothing.

The division costs lots of extra fuel to supply.

Just don't research those upgrades at all. Other stuff tends to be worth producing higher levels of. Artillery especially (btw don't upgrade the AT stuff since they lower soft attack).

Ohh and if you have a central planning sliders then simply don't upgrade your units in the field at all, its too expensive. Still upgrade your actual production lines tho.

>>149117806
Only build and use cavalry divisions with cavalry brigades.

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It's time
Does it really not do anything positive

Seriously guys how do I fire a province-specific event for a specific province?

>>149118091
>Never upgrade infantry past 1932 or 36.
Wrong, do it if you're free-market. Infantry is always your bread and butter, you want them strong. Upgrades are cheap for free markets, expensive for planned economies

>Make long production lines of pure inf, and long production lines of art attachment (separate is better).
Correct. Expect a lot of very boring work, though.

>Promote leaders to field marshal and have an HQ nearby so you can attack with (IIRC) 30 divisions.
Not a good idea. Leaders lose one skill when they're promoted, then they gain experience faster. You should have enough field marshalls in any case.

>Always attack with overwhelming numbers and win.
Most important part, the more overwhelming your attack is, the faster you deplete the enemy's org, giving you time to keep attacking, and you take less damage.

Now, how you do that. You will want to attack with the strongest force you can, always. This means you should attack the province that borders the most provinces occupied by you.
For each province, you can attack with the double of troops a field marshall can command, if you have an HQ nearby.

What I do is make stacks of pure infantry with one HQ commanded by a FM, supported by motorized infantry and smaller infantry stacks.

>>149118426
>liquor prohibition only has a negative tax modifier
Probably so all those tolerant muslim players Paradox loves so much can use it. Good job Paradox!

>>149118457
u cant i guess lol

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FACT: Israel won the space race, with the first man on the moon planting the Israeli flag on May 15, 1969.

>>149118129
Hello Talex

why did HPM lower liquor price and demand again

>>149118543
>Wrong, do it if you're free-market. Infantry is always your bread and butter, you want them strong. Upgrades are cheap for free markets, expensive for planned economies

Look at the stats, they literally gain nothing useful and just drain more supplies and fuel. Even for the USA with infinite fuel this is bad because your logistics can't handle it well.

>Not a good idea. Leaders lose one skill when they're promoted, then they gain experience faster. You should have enough field marshalls in any case.
Losing a few % on a few leaders is basically irrelevant compared to not taking huge stacking penalties. Pretty much no country has enough field marshals.

>>149118668
So the tribe of Israel finally returned to the promised land...

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You're a dumbass that doesn't know jack shit about optimal division templates in HoI4 if you don't understand why this is a great division.

>>149119263
>41 width
>missing a support thingy
ladd........

>>149119263
I can't even tell what this is, use NATO symbols you retard

>>149119401
>41 width is bad
Confirmed for not knowing jack fucking shit about HoI4 commanders.

>>149119263
What the fuck does three triangles mean? These symbols are insane

>>149119263
One sapper, one artillery, one mountain medic, one scout, twelve mountain infantry, five more artillery, one tank destroyer?

>>149119263
>hides the cost
>doesn't have at least 1.3k soft attack
shit

>>149119538
>unironically using field marshalls
no

>>149119538
There's literally no reason not to have 44 width you retard

any buyfag with HOI4 wana help a piratefag out with a mod?

wana try this one out:
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=714527417

>playing EU Rome
>Up to 4 tribal provinces, nearing 50% civilization
>About to steal 2 more because Rome is encroaching and I need buffer provinces
>Beat down the 5k they have
>dont kill them
>Suddenly rebels
>Whatever Ill just halve my army and beat them down
>Sudden 18k barbarian doom stack
>Fuck, they finished the siege the rebels did
>Now have 2 groups besieging
>My 10k stack loses to the Barbarian 18k because rolling a 0 gave me 1/4 morale (this games combat is shit)
>Lose war
>Barbarians bring my capital down to 38%
That was an hour of work destroyed, my game ruined, my provinces down to 2, my neighbor having double my provinces now, and almost all my people hate me because I rushed civilization. All in 5 minutes.

Do you ever disable AI manual trade completely and autistically micromanage every aspect of your nation's economy (i.e. read the 'needs' bar at the bottom and tediously set the sliders for each good)?

>>149120187
I don't even fucking bother with trade

>>149120253
>Plays HOI3 only to trade with different countries
...

>>149120187
No because I have played V2 before so I actually know what I'm talking about.

>>149120253
t. blob pro

>>149120292
Fucking Neutrals amirite?

>>149120359
Finland is the best if you can join the commies. Easy access to everyone important and only the Germans you cant trade with.

>>149120187
POPs don't buy from the stockpile so the only purpose is to buy big stacks of steel and shit you need to build buildings and recruit recruits.

>>149120187
No, that's retarded because the slider is a stockpile while the needs is a daily requirement.

Just set the stockpile to max for everything and you've mastered the economic management of V2.

>>149120348
>t. blob pro
Dam fukin rite
>>149120420
I played as a Commie once
I got run over

HOW DO I STOP COMMUNIST REBELS HOLY SHIT THE NUMBER OF COMMUNISTS JUST KEEP GOING UP

>"Researching" Culture """"Technology""""

>>149120565
I pretty much quit once the Allies and Russia go to war, but making sure everyone is supplied while fighting Germany is fun.

>>149120006
Isn't it in the mega?

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why does this happen in a core province of the new world?

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>>149121186
because of le multicultural mosaic anon

>>149121186
Because if you assimilate them they win.

>>149121186
No accepted pops there for them to assimilate to.
also
>cropping

ck2 noob here, played couple hours but dont really have an idea what im doing, a couple of questions:
how to grow my dynasty and how to win wars, get alliances?
who do i marry my children and my court to?

i have all the expansions but have conclave and sunset invasion turned off

Is there any way to convert and assimilate people in vicky2 if you blob like fucking hell?

>>149120716
post pics

>>149121365
no

>>149121365
You can do the craftsmen trick if you're willing to turbo-micro-manage. Otherwise just piss them off so they emigrate from their home cores, many will go to the new world but some will go elsewhere in your borders and get assimilated.
For colonies? No.

>>149121505
I just want to get rid of all the Arabs/Turks from my Greek Orthodox paradise is all
Pie charts trigger my fee fees

>>149121186
because its 1916

>>149121290

this is probably the dumbest shit

>>149121670
genocide

>>149121365
>>149121670
Try to get all reforms that give assimilation bonuses and hope they leave their cored provinces. A Turk will never assimilate in a Turkish core, but they'll assimilate in Lebanon, Syria, Palestine and so on. Same goes to Arabs and Armenians in Turkey and any minorities (that aren't Jewish or some other exceptions) in regions where only you have a core on.

>>149121365
Genocide events if you are playing modded. Just change the event to work under all government types if you arent facist or commie

Has anyone picked the "Fuck the Limeys" tree as America in Hoi4?
Have you taken the war to the Empire?

>you can't genocide as a presidental dictatorship

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>>149121290
here then

>>149122062
>>149122168
Y-yar h-har fiddlee dee
*sniff*
>>149122072
That actually makes sense irl
Does "Incourage Immigration" do anything?

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Ethiopia doesn't fuck around. 2 divisions each.

>>149122350
This is too advanced for me, is this a zizek meme?

>>149122253
Is that a Yankee majority province in Canada?
And yeah, it's normal with Canada, Australia and New Zealand unfortunately. When the game starts, there are no Australian/Anglo Canadian/French Canadian pops living in those regions, so you must wait for their independence and hope to see internal migration to the affected provinces.
>>149121883
Agreed desu

>>149122474
From what I can recall there's a small button that says "Encourage Immigration", I'm asking if that shit does any good

If you mean the yar har shit
Yeah I'm a modless pirate
Woe is me

>>149122607
>modless pirate
what are you talking about

>>149122350
>Does "Incourage Immigration" do anything?
Hardly, it's a waste of a NF imo. Even if you already have 1% bureaucrats, 4% intellectuals, 5% soldiers, 0.2% officers, 1% landowners, 1% capitalists and 4% clerks, it's still more advantageous to just keep encouraging craftsmen or even more clerks.

>>149122680
Well it's been a while since I tried to mod vicky2
But I have the pirated version, I don't think I can put mods in it

>>149122523
no it's french

>If you mean the yar har shit
>Yeah I'm a modless pirate
>Woe is me
what did he mean by this?

>>149122784
you can you dip

>>149122784
>>149122823
This is what I meant

>>149122882
Well, when I get back to my good PC, I'll try

Are we being raided by ebaumsworld or some shit? What's with these bizarre pirate memes?

>>149122973
Yes

>ebaumsworld
what did he mean by this?

>>149108764
I played around with them for a while, they have three paths.

1. English focused
This gets them English, Irish and Scottish (with cores) as potential accepted. Also probably the easiest, because the high craftsman population in the Isles lets you close your French factories, kill off their craftsmen and repopulate.

You fight the Occitans in a civil war.

2. French focused
This gets them French and Occitan (almost certain Burgundian is out).

You fight the English in a civil war.

3. Everyone.
This gets English, French, Occitan and Irish, but you almost have to go into the event files to figure out exactly what needs to be done to stop everything collapsing.

You fight nobody if you do it well, and fight both the English and the Occitans if you fuck up.

>>149122973
fucking anontalk

yo ho ho and a bottle of liquor xD

Let's say you're Hitler in 1945 (IRL) and all troops are outside Berlin and ready to attack. Suddenly Johan falls from the sky and says "My Führer, you won't lose". He gives him (you) a computer where you can input console commands. What do you do?

>>149123432
*provid*
*changeowner GER XXXX*

>>149123432
Changeowner Islas Malvinas to Argentina

>>149123432
>tfw Hitler did nothing wrong except losing

>>149123432
tag RUS
delete everything
tag GER

>>149123432
helphelp

>>149123432
changeowner Hokkaido to Ezo SSR

>>149123432
tag JEW
delete everything
tag GER

>>149123564
>RUS
pleb

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Rate my Teutonic borders /gsg/. Inspiration was 1812 Russia. Poland, Romania, Bulgaria, Finland, and Armenia are Vassals.

>>149123826
sorry I am not a cheating faggot shitter motherffcuk like you piece of cheating shit so i play the game how it is meant to be play not fucking cheat shit

>>149123432
bearhaslanded

>>149123432
alienattack

>>149123987
I'm just a modder so I know country tags

>>149123973
protectorate ming?

>>149123973
That Poland triggers my blobtism
>>149123991
That gives me a question...
If you, as Jan Mayen in EU4, create a nation, either through culture shift (let's say Byzantium) or form Scandinavia, will you still have the bonuses?

>>149122385
What the fuck is this?

>>149121014
The mod? I'm not sure

>>149124049
...
RUS is the tag for Russia/USSR in all the paradox games I've every cheated in V2 and HOI3.

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>>149124247
Israeli Empire in Darkest Hour's cold war mod, New World Order..

What is the ideal unit in Darkest Hour?

Do you group them up by threes? Mix unit types in the same group?

Also what is good Navy in Darkest Hour

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>>149124131
Nah. Ming is scary. They westernized, so I broke the glass and fought an incredibly bloody war for the steppe.

>>149124180
IMO, removing Poland from the map is a bad idea. They have a strong national identity, and are loyal allies. Also, they're the ones that invited the Teutons to Prussia in the first place.

I'll probably annex them then release a gray colored "Congress Poland" client state.

>>149124367
Its SOV in HOI3

>>149124367
Its SOV in hoi4

I'm pretty damn sure its that in hoi3 but its been a while

>>149124438
I can tell you that the best post WW2 unit is AirCav. 50 movement, with absurdly high soft attack. The only thing that stops them are tanks.

>>149124450
>>149124495
Oh fug you're right. I desu haven't adjusted borders in HOI3 in a long time.

>>149124450
Why haven't you tried diploannexing them?

>>149124438
60 subs
t. Donitz

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>>149124394
Please keep posting. I love DH and have always been intrigued by the NWO mod. How's the navy?

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>>149124585
Didn't see the need to spend so much bird mana on a color swap. Either way they'll be my vassal state.

>>149124736
That guy....

>>149124742
>Didn't see the need to spend so much bird mana on a color swap.
But that's the most important thing
Anyways, I want to know what the fuck is that little thing there in Greenland (I'm guessing animist) and why has Hungary railroaded like that and has parts of Greece, war with the Ottomans?

>>149124742
>Not eradicating all of islam

>>149121014
>>149124314
Nope, the archive doesn't even have mods for HOI4 and the OP only has a music mod

I'm also newfag so if it's hidden somewhere not obvious I wouldn't have known

need this:

http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=714527417

if anyone wants to help

>>149123973
>Letting a single Polish heathen live

>Want to be india
>Pick Vjsadhajdnasdnad
>Proceed to eat southern india
>Bahmanis to the north my rival
>They DOW my vassal
>They haul Bengal into war
>Smile muslim dicks flying at me
>combined army of 36000 to my 21
>They have more moral for some reason
>Lose

I guess Hindu is not meant to be

>>149124736
I've stopped playing for now.
If you mean for the entirety of the mod, Navy is very dicey. Once you get in to the late Cold War, it becomes very all or nothing with naval battles between big powers. Usually one side with take crippling losses, or the other will. Nuclear battleships and submarines are great, as are SLBM (Submarine launched ballistic missiles).

If you're asking about the Israeli Empire's navy (Okay, it's really just named Israel, but I decided to be an empire for shits and giggles), it's non-existant. Heavy ground forces, with light tac bombers and close air support are what I have at my disposal right now. I'm probably the most powerful non-aligned nation at this point, but god damn I just can't justify building a navy yet.

>>149125083
Is Sikh religion any better?

>>149124976
>eradicating islam
Uh, excuse me but Islam is the TRUE GERMANIC ARYAN RELIGION, because of its strong warrior traditions that value strength and power, unlike Christianity which was a Jewish invention to promote weakness and degeneracy, as well as to control world governments. If Germans embraced the strength of Islam instead of the weakness of Christianity they could have conquered the world.

>>149125147
How close is this shit to EvW?

Also, how does the mod stop war between the USSR and the US?

>>149125265
The seven deadly sins are a doctrine to prevent degeneracy, there is nothing like that in Islam, their version is all about how you should do what Allah says. You can be degenerate and Islamic, but you cant and follow Catholicism, atleast if you really are following it.

>>149124976
>Teutons
>Ever fighting muslims successfully
>Ever not purging pagans and other christians

Anon pls

>>149125493
>and other christians
*tips revisionism*

>>149125265
This
Moltke Hans Mädchenlieben (MoHaMad)
Was a blonde blue-eyed Germanic aryan who preached his true word to the lower shitskin classes of Arabia
But alas, due to the Jew the rest of the white people didn't heed his words
(pbuh)

>>149125359
EvW?
And it doesn't stop war between the Warszawa Pact and NATO. Most of the time you'll be teetering on the edge of war. There's tonnes of events, and a lot of them have a risk of starting WW3. One I remember that happened in my Israel game is that West Berlin was blockaded, and the Soviet Union plus East Germany demanded that it be transferred to the East. There was a high risk of war happening from that, but the US thankfully(?) went with giving it over to the Sovs instead of calling for war.

>>149125493
>Teutons
>spanning all of Asia
Yea we arent going for historical accuracy here.

>>149125539
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Grunwald
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_on_the_Ice

It's time to stop posting

>>149124964
Animist.

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I accidentally all of Italy while Hitler was looking the other way.

>>149125709
WE

>>149125765
Who?

>>149125643
The teutons were authorized by the HRE to conquer all of Muscovy, Novgorod, and Lithuania. If they had succeeded, they would've had to replace russia on the world stage. Burgundy would've taken france's role if it had conquered france, so too with the teutonic order.

>>149125663
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_on_the_Ice
What is this a fucking ice-skating theatrical play on a battle between Orthodox and Catholic?

>>149125632
A way WW3 actually started when I was playing the mod before was after the Chinese civil war. I was playing with a friend, and we both intervened and sent troops to help Fascist China. After the war, Mongolia hosted a Communist Chinese government in exile, while declared war on us after they were established. Since they were allied with Mongolia, they declared war as well. Mongolia was allied with the Sovs, and you can guess what happened from there.

Thankfully the sovs didn't have nuclear weapons yet, so I made liberal use of tactical nuclear weapons in the initial assaults (Total of about 1 million Soviet troops killed in the span of 5 hours, or so).

>>149125847
Yes

>>149125839
Actually in my Naples game Burgundy is somehow winning, guess there is a first for everything. I think its because I took down Aragon so France has shit allies.

>>149125663
>what is defending yourself from slavic untermensch heretics

>>149125632
East vs west, the cold war game paradox were going to give us at one point but decided we'd prefer HoI4.

>>149126170
>Catholic Poles
>Heretics

Anon, I

>>149126234
>constantly attacked other christians because muh slavix cock
Fuck off, pavlocheck.

>>149126170
>East vs west, the cold war game paradox were going to give us at one point but decided we'd prefer HoI4.
Oh, damn, right. It blows that it was cancelled, I was hyped as hell for it.

It isn't super close, I can't imagine. I'd assume EvW would have a lot more indepth stuff regarding espionage and the like, as well as proxy war stuff. New World Order is the closest we'll probably get, but it is in essence just Darkest Hour extended to 2010. Same mechanics, just some new stuff added.

Why is Slavia so Groß /gsg/?

>>149126402
>Catholic Europe
>Not constantly at war with each other

Anon, I know you're baiting as /pol/, but this is a weak line of argument even when thrown out as bait.

The Teutonic order spent the latter half of its existence at war against Christians foreign and domestic, mostly on offense.

Why didnt the United States bomb Kyoto in WW2?

Not talking about the atomic bomb, but even regular air raids avoided the city

>>149126561
>mostly on offense.
WOOP THERE IT IS!
This is some QUALITY fucking revisionism right here. Got to dig deep for this shit.

>>149126929
No really lad I played the teutons in EU4 and I was always attacking

>>149126804
As the former imperial capital it had cultural value

>>149126470
Does ot really have many events? When I played ot it was literally nothing but a GE decision that simply moved your country politically left or right.

Why did I get a gold rush in Konigsberg? Playing HPM

>>149127017
Jews moved into the area

Someone on reddit told me i could find HPM here. Where is he? I have a question.

what the fuck where is all the liquor

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=f45_1469069887

>>149128186
the liquor act of 1836 was in it's dying days as liquor factories were closing down and being replaced with steel factories. Most historians agree Alex Grandi was behind this has he had pulled out of the liquor industry.

>>149106408
>kosher
wat
is this political terminology I'm not aware of or do you just mean "good"

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>In 1674, according to Johann Ludwig Burckhardt, someone smeared the Black Stone with excrement so that "every one who kissed it retired with a sullied beard". The Shi'ite Persians were suspected of being responsible and were the target of curses from other Muslims for centuries afterwards, though explorer Sir Richard Francis Burton doubted that they were the culprits; he attributed the act to "some Jew or Greek, who risked his life to gratify a furious bigotry."

>>149125048
Anyone help please? Really wana try this mod out

http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=714527417

Is liquor good in PDM?

>>149129074
based

>>149115629
alex will one day learn the midas touch of vicky economy modding
everything will be fixed

>>149129094

Horses and advanced machine parts are better.

>>149117474
why the hell does that happen with screenshots sometimes

>>149129291
Dunno lol, I kinda hoped it would for that one because the focus was on the map and not the UI.

>>149129291
it means it was posted on reddit before being posted here, it's what imgur does to images

>>149121329
Play the marriage game by searching around for good stats and, on occasion, good connections. Breed strong, and keep your heirs close. They might complain, but if they are in your court, you can make decisions that affect them, and it is less likely that your grandchildren are utter brats raised in a foreign culture.

Pay attention to inheritance rules. The Queen of Navarre may be likely to agree to a marriage between your son and her only daughter, but that is because they have female rulers, and your son's land will go to them.

>>149122253
is this the newest HPM?

There shouldn't be majority injun states in 1900. that just can't be right. Also the dixie culture spreading all over arbitrarily was in vanilla, and then I noticed it was fixed in hpm and dixie assimilated into yankee (which was good, yankee becoming an umbrella culture for the both) but now I guess it's back again

I've said this before but I have been noticing some consistent weird fuckin shit going on with immigration into the us and the frontier states in the newest HPM

>>149123432
>annex sov

>>149129523
Dixie assimilation depends on the reconstruction choice, I don't know which one the AI takes by default or if there is a default.

>>149129594
every game i play dixie POPs get absolutely BTFO

>>149124450
turkish in the same culture group as mashriq, syrian, bedouin, yemeni, omani, egyptian
>mashriq, syrian, bedouin, yemeni, omani, egyptian not being in the same culture group as tunisian, moroccan, algerian
>turkish not in the greek culture group

>>149129523

The -80% chance to assimilation native american cultures get is probably a big thing here

>>149129812
yeah but why do the americans not actually settle their manifest destiny land

>>149125830
THE

Hey guys. I just got Vicky 2, but I can't get a lot of the cheats to work. For example, I need to type in 'showprovinceid' for the province ID's to appear, but it won't work. What do?

>>149130134
just use "provid"

>>149129978
I think it's probably because the AI is able to keep up with factories in the population centers, and if there are open factory slots in a region pops will rarely emigrate to another region.

It is my theory that the protestant reformation was actually a manifestation of the increasing cultural separation between north and south europeans
Cultures take religion and appropriate it to themselves, and the germanics had become separated enough politically and culturally from the rest of europe that their christianity changed shape. Even if the catholic church was impossible to complain about, protestants would have appeared in some form.
Their new religion became the new standard for the most civilized nations when the 19th century swung around, as south europe started falling behind. You could see it outside of europe too, with the protestant americans declaring their civilizing mission of manifest destiny on land owned by a catholic country.

>>149130393
I'm trying it, and it just says 'unkown command 'provid''.

>>149130470
make sure there's not a space first or anything
oh yeah and also once you get to changeownering make sure you don't mistype province ids or the game will crash
t. cheatshitter pro

>>149130571
It's still not working famalam. Surely Paradox aren't jewish enough to make cheats not work in the base game...

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>>149130134
>just got vicky2
>already cheating

>>149130780
are you putting the quotes in like in >>149130393?

because if you are thats wrong

>>149130867
It's fun to fuck around. I mean, you wouldn't mess with the console and then say "look at my blob I'm so proud of it and had a lot of fun going through the struggle to make it"

console fuckery is not actually playing the game, and if you look at it from that perspective there's nothing morally wrong with it. It's just like drawing a fantasy map on paper except you get to see what pops do and you can observe your world progress. I mean yeah you could also make a mod but that's a fuckton of work, this is more just like an equivalent of playing make believe with toy action figures or cars or whatever.

>>149130946
Of course I'm not putting in the fucking quotes.

>>149131172
it's showprovinceid, you were getting meme'd on hard

>>149131172
reinstall I guess
If you bought it I'd say don't use the one you bought. Just get it from the archive and make sure you get heart of darkness and the latest patch thingy
unless you like to exploit transport ships, then dont get the latest patch thingy

>>149131172
showpid

>>149131351
>>149131393
I've tried both of these. No effect.
>>149131356
>get one from the archive
Literally what?

>>149131540
then you're doing something wrong as that's the command from http://www.victoria2wiki.com/Console_commands

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>when liberals keep gaining ground in my beautiful Prussia
Also, I'm allied with most (if not all) of the other German states. How to I eventually blob them to form the North German Confederation?

>>149131654
Build liquor factories

>>149131540
the mega in the op

get vic2 HOD 3.03 standalone, and then get the patch 3.04 beta and put it in the game dir and replace any duplicate files with the patch ones

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>>149131601
>then you're doing something wrong
Am I now?

>>149131540
>>149131768

try putting the word "debug" before it

debug showprovinceid

>>149131768
Why the fug is Preußens yellow?

>>149131768
get the expansions you dip

>>149131768
>yellow prussia
lad what are you doing
get the version from the archive