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/smtg/ - 真・女神転生/Shin Megami Tensei General

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>SMTIV Final/SMTIV Apocalypse information
http://pastebin.com/Xmjsuv0D

Participate in the new /smtg/ sings:
http://collabedit.com/uvwta
http://pastebin.com/dKLqugTC

>MTII translation project
http://www.dmanufacture.com/t-dds2.php

>Starter guide
http://i.imgur.com/zJcYpuE.png

>Tips and tricks
http://pastebin.com/bd3Bgfj8

>Artbook, soundtrack, manga, and other downloads
http://pastebin.com/NqLRYf5n

>New OST links
http://pastebin.com/kLbYxjFU

>Misc. translations
http://pastebin.com/kmMsiz1d

>Booru
http://smtg.booru.org/

>Recommended reading
http://pastebin.com/YppqPPjf

>SMT If... Tips & Tricks:
http://pastebin.com/KiwVr9Vy

>Previous thread
>>148624420
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Sera.
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>>149084423
Well it's not the final game if they're making a new SMT for mobile phones, yeah?
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>>149084608
Sure, I'll try
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Sup bitches
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ONE MORE
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>>149085001
GOD REJECTED
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>>149085017
I HAVE YOUR ASS
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>>149085017
IN THIS
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>>149084584
Are you implying that its a bad thing or something?
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>>149085249
Are you implying that mobile games are good?
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>>149085249
>Mobage
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>>149085249
I'd rather have SMT V be exclusive to the Ouya or Xbone. Fuck mobile gaming.
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>>149085305
>>149085334
>not wanting mobile SMT
what a plebs you are, geez..
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>>149085468
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>>149085468
>What a plebs
Somebody call an ambulance. This man is having a stroke.
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Anyone got a fusion chart for SMT 1? 2 way?
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>>149085249
With P5 success it will be the only possible way to maintain mainline afloat. Only SMT Go can save it from reducing itself into total waifugarbage which Final already is.
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>>149085497
Why is Yahweh such a dick?
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>>149084901
I tried following your directions, but I did not see an option to convert the card into a folder of saves, nor did I find a PCSX2 folder in my Documents folder (my setup must be messed up as heck, or I need to update the emulator. Pic related, version I'm using is pcsx2-v1.3.1). So I just downloaded myMC to get the save files off of the memory card, and put all the DDS saves in a folder. I uploaded the DDS saves (format is .psu, I can change it if needed), as well as the memory cards themselves in case I'm retarded and you'd rather do it yourself than depend on me

DDS Saves: https://mega.nz/#!SlIywBbC!pCITohWvFfxUo5KIoVg0kn6--xIE6fWHAE8ZSJSU4p0

Memory Cards: https://mega.nz/#F!e8Q1zaLR!TkPAyYD5sT0tjLq-y3AYDA
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Nanashi is cute! Cute!
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>>149088325
You spelt Asashi wrong.
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>>149084567
>>149088325
>>149088494
Fuck off.
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>>149088647
ONE MORE GOD REJECTED
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>>149086478
He gets really upset when people don't worship him for whatever reason.
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Hoy.
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>>149092030
Take this, it might kill your libido.
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>>149092324
Too late. 5 times now. But thank you since it's such shit art it does work.
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>>149092439
No problemo.
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>>149092030
Try playing with videogames instead of your dick all day.
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>>149092324
>>149092568
>Isabeau
>ugly
Shit taste.
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>>149092943
I can't enjoy them anymore
Stopped nocturne at lvl 40 something some time ago, might as well replay the whole thing now.
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>>149093073
Exactly, you need to have shit taste to find her beautiful or even remotely good looking. You didn't need to clarify this, everyone knows.
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>liking Isabeau
>when Io exists
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>>149093180
If you stop jacking off for a few days, video games become more enjoyable. Trust me.
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>>149093214
>Io
>Good
Look at this fucking ugly whore. Nothing makes me angrier than this literally copy pasted Isabeau wanna-be. Fucking hack Yasuda probably saw the sexy and perfect Isabeau and tried to copy her in his pathetic and tactless style. Look how stupid this dumb bitch looks. I hate everything about her. Her stupid round head, her stupid schoolgirl shit. Her stupid hands up thing. Her stupid timid personality. She does nothing but wait on the MC's beck and call like a little cock obsessed dog. She has no depth to her, unlike Isabeau who is literally perfection. The true heroine of the game, the incorruptible. Chosing humanity over Power or Law. Io couldn't make a choice like that because she's too much of a timid dumb little bitch. If Daichi hadn't suggested the third route there's no way in hell this little pussy would have spoken up for shit, and her somehow surviving so long in the story and dying the way she did is laughable. Someone like her wouldn't last 5 minutes in the SMT world. Meanwhile Isabeau was already READY to be a Samurai. Her father was a Samurai and she already had the skills needed to survive in the cruel world that is Tokyo. No bitching, no whining, no crying about how much of a timid bitch she is while the rest of the world went to hell. She got she done, and in the CANON path she helped save the fucking world and free it from the dome. That means something, and you know what? She's back again in Final. Meanwhile Io's story ends with a bunch of fucking losers on a beach sucking each other's dicks because they're all faggots.

>>149093209
Very funny faggot. Hilarious coming from someone posting some faggot wearing no shirt and fucking capri. What a fucking homo.
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>>149093278
Yes i will try this thank you
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>>149093431
>This whole post
I don't care if this is satire, the White were right.
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>>149093431
I was gonna turn your autistic rant into a Io version like I did a few months ago but I don't feel like it. Isabeau is the worst heroine in the entire Megaten franchise by far, please kill yourself out of /smtg/ Isabeaufag.
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>>149093431
>She does nothing but wait on the MC's beck and call like a little cock obsessed dog.
This is how you make a good female character, though.
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>>149093617
>>149094169
>Isabeau is shit
>BECAUSE I SAID SO
Remove yourself anytime.
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>>149093431
Look at this fucking ugly whore. Nothing makes me angrier than this literally copy pasted Io wanna-be. Fucking hack Doi probably saw the sexy and perfect Io and tried to copy her in his pathetic and tactless style. Look how stupid this dumb bitch looks. I hate everything about her. Her stupid monkey hair, her stupid samuraigirl shit. Her stupid manga thing. Her stupid indecisive weeaboo personality. She does nothing but wait on the MC's beck and call like a little cock obsessed monkey. She has no depth to her, unlike Io who is literally perfection. The true heroine of the game, the incorruptible. Chosing sacrificing herself to defeat the septentrion. Isabeau couldn't make a choice like that because she's too much of a timid dumb little bitch. If Flynn hadn't suggested the neutral route there's no way in hell this little pussy would have spoken up for shit, and her somehow surviving so long in the story and dying the way she did in the other routes is laughable. Someone like her wouldn't last 5 minutes in the DeSu world. Meanwhile Io was already READY to be a Jips agent. Her phone was a Summoning device and she already had the skills needed to survive in the cruel world that is Japan. No bitching, no whining, no crying about how much of a indecisive bitch she is while the rest of the world went to hell. She got she done, and in the CANON path she helped save the fucking world and free it from Mizar and the septentriones. That means something, and you know what? She's back again in Record Breaker. Meanwhile Isabeau's story ends with a bunch of fucking losers on the hands of a fuccboi sucking his dick because they're all faggots.
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>>149093431
>>149094742
Now kiss.
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>>149094862
No.

REND, SLAUGHTER, DEVOUR.
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>>149094997
SUCK YOUR ENEMIES
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>>149094997
>>149095126
True best girl.
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>>149095263
Second best.

Here's number one.
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Which one of you guys made this?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=flMJEzEhNG8
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>>149095542
Stop posting your own videos.
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>>149087929
I got it working. Thanks senpai.
In the end, I opened up the memory card in PCSX2, converted them, and copied the saves over into my card.

PCSX2 is on 1.4.0 now so you should update. I guess memcard conversion is a new feature.
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>>149096437
Glad I could be of assistance, at least. I'll probably update soon.
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>>149095881
Seriously not me, I was wondering because holy shit, is the tone very /smtg/-esque. That and I fucking knew someone was gonna make some video series back when there used to be weekly streams. Chill, my man.
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ELEGANT
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To the guy in the last thread, I disagree that Persona 1 didn't have a tone. The screams in the hospital, Number 1's development being more understood through time (especially with what his Ultimate turns out to be, which was fucking great), that famous image of the player seeing himself playing, Brown actually getting serious.
I would say that P1 is one of the happiest endings in all of MegaTen, but still felt very rewarding. Also liked how it really mattered which members you decided to bring. Persona 4, some of the members were just so questionable. Yosuke being such an asshole with no payoff, Yukiko being so nothing, and Teddy being a tad annoying at times got to me. I think the big thing about P4 that got me was the fact that the social links seemed less interesting than P3's, Protag being blessed with likability/Social Link powers by Izanami, and how the team mates didn't have that fluctuating relationship with the protag like in any of the other games. Dojima felt like the only one who would ever challenge him.
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>>149099665
FUWAH
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Someone should have warned me that wageslaving was a trap.

Real life demon apocalypse when?
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>>149097436
He used to come here for sure. I remember him asking which demons to make videos on a while back. He's since either stopped feeling the need to ask or fucked off elsewhere.
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>>149100901
When SMT Go is released.
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>>149104319
A Demon Summoning App game could be cool. See a demon outside, get a talking minigame, need a demon to protect you if things go badly.
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.yoh
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>>149104910
I'm not going outside, fuck you.
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>>149100901

If you can min-max in MegaTen, you can develop career skills and work towards financial independence. Get your ass to MrMoneyMustache and get serious.

Then you can spent all day cursing some rushed asshole programmer named Eric who refused to use source control or leave comments or do anything that would be remotely helpful down the line.
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>>149100901
Maybe you should pick up other skills so you wouldn't have to be a wageslave.
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>>149100136
LAAAME
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Why is in every SMT Game, LAW Ruling the World?
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>>149111791
Law = Jews
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Guys please I'm lonely
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>>149114780
Get a dog
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>>149114796
I hate pets, I'd rather a pet succubus instead
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>>149114932
Get a hamster. They die quickly and make you feel less lonely.
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>>149114780
>>149114796
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Will mainline ever get an anime adaptation (that's also good)?
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>>149116325
>tfw Pascal is gone
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>>149118026
>(that's also good)
Pic unrelated, I suppose.
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Why is Ronaldo such a daft spic cunt
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>>149109324
That's my plan. But I'll need to endure for now.

>>149109070
I just checked it out. I can't disagree with what I have read, but it is not really resonating with me.
It still has been an interesting read nonetheless, and it'll be worth it for me to be more meticulate with my expenses.

>>149104319
Another anon already explained that SMT GO exists through Nemechi in Soul Hackers. It's actually pretty fun, you just have to hack your 3DS and remove the lock of play coins that can be earned per day.
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>>149118026
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>>149120375
Stream when
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>>149120375
This.
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>>149120508
It's almost Friday.
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>>149120375
This movie has everything.

Based dogs, titties, /u/, ninjas, fags, romance, hardcore 90's techno-magick, demons and the best written megaten characters up to date.
No other megaten animation can compete with this.
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>>149114932
Get a cat. Less maintenance and if you pick the right one they're as affectionate as a dog.
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>>149120630
>implying some faggot here isn't gonna report it as soon as a stream link gets posted
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Is there one of these in something?
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>>149122404
So its name is Sheela Na Gig?

Nope, the closest thing to a vagina demon is Arioch.
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hoy
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Hoy.
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Shibaboo
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LOOKS LIKE THE QUEST IS GOING WELL
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Someone asked if they are working on SMTV. I'm sure it was the project Yamai talked about in Famitsu which means that it's most likely in brainstorming stages now. I have a feeling they will wait some time to decide between Nintendo's next handheld and PS4 but I think they will go with PS4 because of P5's engine and assets.
Also Memento dungeon in P5 looks Nocturne as fuck.
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>>149122119
I hate cats even more than dogs
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Rakunda
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Night guys
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>>149133952
hoyasumi
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I would just like to say AAAAAAHHHH!

I'm so sick of these damn muscle men everywhere, screw whoever built these dungeon puzzles.

I can't make it past the final floor of this stupid Labyrinth and it's making me feel stupid for not being able to.
Took a little break from the game and I still can't finish Inaba Pride Night 4.
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handheld port of Nocturne when
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So does Persona 2's combat ever get more complicated than "set everyone to always do their best attacks and putt he controller down" or is that all I'm in for?

Does it at least change in EP?
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;_;
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>>149138341
No, P2 combat is trash
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Hoy.
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Does Persona 3 get better later on? I'm at the floor 59 boss and I dont really enjoy it, mainly because the randomly generated floors are so bland and uninteresting.
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>>149145592
It gets better once you don't all get tired so often and once you have to start caring for Elizabeth's quests.

The dungeons are never going to get any better though. At most you can expect a slight difficulty boost.
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>>149145592
You have 250+ floors.
And no, any Megami Ibunroku gane beyond Eternal Punishment is trash.
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>>149145884
This is good bait, you even add the Ibunroku part instead of Persona to tease em to attack you on that.
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Let's hear you do impressions of your favorite MegaTen characters, /smtg/.

http://vocaroo.com
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>>149145592
If you don't like the dungeons, no, they only get a bit better because of bosses and new demons and the like. Most people played for the other side. Whenever I got bored of dungeoning, I'd go see the old monk in the bar, or some other SL.
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>>149145931
Nice try, but it's not bait.

Why do you think Persona got a seperate general?
Because all they do is shitpost about waifus since there's no good gameplay to speak of.
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>>149146104
It's bait but I'll definitely answer this, since this thread is a bit slow. Persona literally got a separate general since someone made one for Persona 4 Arena talk, and it just evolved from that. People still talk about Persona on here, as they should. Opinions, but P4 was the only real bad one. All the others at least tried something innovative and of their time. P4 just felt like the latter, and watered down.
P3 only had the bad dungeons and that whole not-controlling-your-characters thing that they fixed anyways. And people will always shitpost about waifus, cmon anon. Where do you think you are?
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What do you guys think about P5?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rnMRYzYES3w
Gameplay? Story? Characters? Music?
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>>149146353
P4 wasn't even that bad. It was just kind of boring compared to the other Personas.
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>>149147096
It looks alright. I hate that song and I can already tell the cat is gonna be really annoying, but it looks alright.
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>>149147096
I'm hyped despite the delays. My only super significant problem with P3 and 4 is that their dungeons were "walk around in circles with occasional battles until you reach the end." I think Magatsu Inaba had like one or two puzzles or challenge rooms and that's it.
The stealth elements seem like a remedy to that, but holy shit I really hope they don't have randomized dungeons again. That's 90% of what made P3/4 dungeons so bad, and it ESPECIALLY won't work if you're expected to stealth around randomly generated environments.

Bringing back demons and negotiations is great.
Music and aesthetics seem great, they always are.
Makoto is going to be best girl, I'm calling it right now.
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>>149147557
>Makoto is going to be best girl
Sorry but best girl is already confirmed to be in.
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Can we finally agree that this is the best SMT song?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1DM2X9eV9U8
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>>149147897
I'm gonna have to disagree

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tnHhtulav8c
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>>149147557
>but holy shit I really hope they don't have randomized dungeons again
I think it has been confirmed somewhere that the dungeons won't be randomized and that there will be some puzzles to solve to progress from time to time. I can't give you a source right now though, but personally I'm really enthusiastic thanks to that and the fact that demons are back,( not counting Nyx and Izanami if they're demons).
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>>149147316
It's not a horrible game, but it was very meh. If it didn't feel so much like P3 mechanics wise, I'd have probably thought better of it. Of course, just my opinion, like my opinion of how the spinoff games made some characters even worse. I liked the Jersery robo girl though so my taste is shit.
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>>149148348
Labrys was the only good thing to come out of the P4 spinoffs. Except maybe the temporary resurgence of Mark danced crazy and everyone's dancing furiously memes.
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>>149148512
>Labrys was the only good thing to come out of the P4 spinoffs

Can't believe I'm saying this, but, i agree.
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>>149147897
That's not this. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4zmeqQbOmFw
Or this (couldn't find the Famicom version so it'll do) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IPbW1BJk3J4
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>>149148512
Maybe it's because it was my first, but I miss Persona 1. All the little jokes about it are so nice too, like Ryuji's dumb little magic tricks or having the fastest protag ever.
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Hoy.
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So this isn't as hard as I've heard about online. They dish it out to you in 4 sections. The most annoying part is remembering the teleporter sequence on the top left section. But I got that down after a little bit.
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>>149148817
I think it's because they aren't things shoved down your throat.

LOL GIRLS CANT COOK
LOL KANJI A GAY

soooooo wacky u guyz
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http://lparchive.org/Shin-Megami-Tensei-Devil-Summoner/

I haven't read it, but here's a thing.
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>>149153646
Oh, and if you don't want to read it, check the bottom for Extras. They seem p neat.
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>playing Nocturne again after having a fight with my dad
This game is oddly relaxing, though I haven't played in years and I'm stuck on Pale Rider at the moment. Are there any good spots to grind at this point in the game or should I just try my luck in the third kalpa?
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>>149154627
>after having a fight with my dad
What are you, 12?
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>>149154963
>adults never fight with their parents

I don't even have family, and I know you're being retarded.
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>>149154963
24, but with a lot of angst. Probably why I'm still playing Nocturne.
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>>149155102
>24
>fighting with your parents

Go get a fucking job, man.
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>>149155046
If you're a grown man fighting woth your parents there's obviously something wrong.

There's a reason the phrase is "act like an adult". That aside >>149155102, stop arguing with your father. It doesn't matter who started it just respect whatever the fuck they say and move on.
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>>149155337
>>149155804
Look, I can make assumptions over the Internet too. If you guys are projecting your regrets on me because your deadbeats are dead, then I understand. But frankly, I'm not fine with having my sperm donar acting like he's father of the year when I'm left starving to support my mom and brother. I just want to punch some demons in the face.
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You have survived the conception.
What reason do you follow?
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>>149155804
Not him but "act like an adult" is one of the worst things you could say to someone, since most of what people associate with adulthood is fucked. Nowadays, it means spend your time at a bar and drink your problems away instead of dealing with them. I get enough patients as it is because of that.
>>149157083
None, every Reason is awful. We had a poll once, and I'm pretty sure only Reset Button and TDE were that high.
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>>149156592
>If you guys are projecting your regrets on me because your deadbeats are dead, then I understand.
You'd be a little less lightheaded if you didn't cut yourself with that edge.

Yeah, both my fathers died this year. But that has no bearing on your lack of trying to fix anything and you just drowning your problems out with Nocturne.

>Oh boo hoo, I'm starving
>But I obviously have internet, video games, and other things that aren't a necessity
Great support dude. While you're wasting away playing video games and whining that nothing is magically going to fix itself, your "sperm donor of a father" is probably enjoying life more than you. Makes you wonder what things would be like if you actually cared instead of throwing a tantrum and slamming your bedroom door?

Go ahead and reply with
>"B-but you don't understand h-how tough I have it"
You lying to yourself does more damage to you than it does me.

>>149157479
That's not acting like an adult and you and I both know that. If people think adulthood is that fucked then they should try and fix it rather than bitch about it.
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>>149157083
If I'm the Demi-fiend, Yosuga or TDE.
If I'm some other random demon, Musubi.
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So, /smtg/, I was thinking about replaying smt IV since I've only got the white ending (wanted to get new game +) but I accidentally deleted my save data. Is there a way to get hard mode without new game+? Can I download the save data off the internet?
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>>149157680
Sounds like you're projecting a lot of your own feelings on me. We don't get to choose who brings us into the world and a lot of times the people who do are not good people. I'be been putting my dreams on hold so my mom and brother can not be sinking in debt while my dad spends his days driving a truck and snorting coke. If he doesn't want to be a part of the family, that's his business now, because I'm sick of him lying to me about I can come to him for support when he's never supported any of us at all.
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>playing Devil Survivor Overclocked
>reach Babel fight for the first time
>after a decently tough fight that took down Naoya and Kaido I kill Babel
>feel like it was a little underwhelming but whatever, onto the next fight
>literally thisisn'tevenmyfinalform
>it summons Beldr and Belial
>mfw it dawned on me the Bel rush would immediately follow the Babel fight
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>>149153646
>tfw someone LP'd Devil Summoner before you even finished making a walkthrough for it
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>>149145998
Here's the best I've got, but it's a little quiet

http://vocaroo.com/i/s1yIUbxn83Sy
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>>149159582
Stop using Critical Wave you useless asshole, it always misses.
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>>149159701
Chiaki a shit
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>>149162460
You a shit.
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>>149158865

>I have to face Babel 2.0 after I defeat all the fucking Bels again
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>>149158865
>>149163784
The fun part being that I don't think any of the other endings require the Bel re-fights or the second Babel fight. And you can carry over your old demons into NG+. So your choice of first ending here has really fucked you over.
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>>149164229

It'll all be worth dunking God's bitch ass, right?
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>>149164461
Abel does basically become Demi Fiend Jr. in Naoya's ending, yes
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Female protagonist for V.
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>>149167675
A retard with downs syndrome and big tits
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>>149167675
You have your own general.
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>>149168842
#FE is megaten, deal with it.
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>>149169542
Shoo shoo stinky idol back to /tmsg/ and Tharjafag
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>>149169542
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>>149170240
>polfag
Scum
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>>149170303
I'm not a /pol/fag nor a Trump supporter. You still have to go back. They need you anyway; they're way deader than we are.
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Hoy.
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>>149164229
Amane's does. You have to do something in Gin's, though I don't remember if that involves fighting all the Bels. I know you fight Babel twice though.
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>>149157680
Not /smtg/, and also pretty edgy. Nobody knows how any anon lives their life here, nobody really should. To assume this much is pretty fucked, and like that other anon said, projecting hard. That said, other anon should probably head to therapy to help heal up instead of coping through just Nocturne. Help is out there.
This is like the people that say "deal with it" and don't even try to help. C'mon, chaos.
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>>149170489
Not even either of them, but please leave the /pol/ memes in that cesspool. It was bad enough when /sp/ was huge.
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Does Final/Apocalypse require you to keep track of alignment points like in IV?
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>>149176332
No, all the routes are accessed by simply accepting the offer from the alignment rep.
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>>149176332
No, it's all on a choice some time around level 80 iirc.
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Is there a list of all the skill's base power in IV, along with a formula for damage calculation? Just for convenience
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>>149177540
>>149178223

Thank fuck. Law and Chaos are basically game overs, right? What are the real endings?
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POST YOUR FAVORITE DEMONS
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>Babel 2.0's special move shit silences your magic MC
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>>149159582
MOST UNLUCKY FOR YOU
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>>149179294
Bonds/Peace and Anarchy/Massacre
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>>149180063

I hope the next SMT has more Egyptian demons in it.
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>>149178223
The choice in Final happens after you defeat Mitra and Inanna in the Cosmic Egg, but before the final battle with Krishna.

>>149179294
Law and Chaos are the same as they were in IV. The real endings are a choice between Anarchy and Peace.
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>>149180862

What the fuck does that mean?
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>>149181060
Bonds/Peace means that Nanashi defeats YHVH with the power of nakama. It's also how Flynn is able to break free of Krishna's hold in the Vishnu fight, and why Satan temporarily revives Johnathan and Walter during the YHVH fight.

Anarchy/Massacre means that Nanashi sides with Dagda and straight up murders everyone trying to stop him from becoming the new creator. Dagda hooks you up with a Megami, and a revived Flynn so Nanashi doesn't end up like YHVH, who's implied to be insane because he went thousands of years without an equal.
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>>149181060
Peace - Kill YHVH, Humans and Demons peacefully coexist and rebuild Tokyo together, you live happily ever after with your friends.

Anarchy - Kill YHVH, destroy the universe and re-create it with yourself as the new God-King.
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>>149182151
>>149182249
>tfw don't want to kill my friends but hate demons and want to become God

I'm gonna have a tough time deciding.
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>>149182526
It's okay, Dadga offers to revive one of your friends as an eternal companion in Anarchy.
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>>149182692

See, I'm normally a Lawfag but Peace isn't a Law analogue, it's Neutral+ while Anarchy is basically Super Chaos.
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So P5 is a rip of SMT If, P1, and P2IS sprinkled with P4 in between?
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>>149182948
It's better than Law and Chaos, where Nanashi's friends abandon him for siding with either Merkabah or Lucifer at the reactor.
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>>149182948
Anarchy has something from every alignment. It takes genocide and brainwashing from Law, one guy against the world/every man for himself from Chaos and creating a world without demonic influences from Neutral.
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>>149180063
Lilith is a close second.

Too bad both of them kind of suck in most games.
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h0y
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Mudo.
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>>149180063
Huang Long
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>>149180063
Her or Alice.
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BEHOLD MY hoy
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>>149180063
Fairies 4 Lyfe
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>>149183625
And Satan is so tired of YHVH's shit he'll try anything because it's better than the current situation.
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Why aren't you playing Devil Summoner you bitch
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>>149195605
5 souls in Merkabah + 2 in Lucifer for Satan's Seven Heads

Dragon aspect comes from Merkabah as well as the statuesque body while the full demonic traits and black/red comes from Lucy.

Michael also resembles a serpent and had the attack that always does 666 damage.

>>149197501
I've gotten enough Raidou cocksucking recently. Just beat Lucifer for the final time and he talks about how Raidou is the super special chosen one.
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What's the best SMT?
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>>149197696
Majin Tensei II, Devil Children Red/Black Book, Persona 5, and Megami Tensei II.
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Just how big is SMT4?
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>>149197501
I can't read the sacred script.
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>>149197501
I'm replaying IV before Final arrives.
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>>149197696
There is no best really, they all have good and bad and it's hard to choose between em.
My favorites are SMT1, Persona 1, DeviChil (any of the GBC games, none of the GBA), Jack Bros, and if...
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>>149197501
I am though, finished Raidou 1 a few days ago and am about 6 hours into Raidou 2.
I don't like the new combat system, I can't get the hang of it and it somehow feels even more clunky than the first.

I'm thinking of dropping it for now though cause the P5 hype has me wanting to replay Persona 1 really badly, so I might just do that.
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>>149197694
>>149199208
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>>149199624
Sorry I don't have a Playstation emulator because my computer battery died.
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>>149199908
>Playstation
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>>149199624
>tfw no 3DS
>can't speak the ancient tongue

Fuck you, Raidou is all the Devil Summoner I have right now, I'll play you one day.

I promise.
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>>149199998

A 2DS is $80, anon
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Quick! I need more clean and simple designs for t-shirts!
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>>149200302
I know, here let me just pull 80 quid out of my arse and head on down to Gamestop right now.

Seriously though, I had one and it got broke, plus I'm autistic and need the xl cause the others are too small for me, I'll get a new one before Final comes out. I've been hankering for more handheld SMT.
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>>149200864
>tfw 3DS LL is fucked
>Wanna get a N3DS to replace it for Final and other games I still need to play
>They only stock XL in NOA, which are too big for my hands and not easy to slip into pockets
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>>149197501
Does it have furigana? I'm pretty shit at kanji.
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>>149203895
>amazon.com
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>>149204421
>Region locking
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>>149204668
>amazon.jp
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>>149204785
>He thinks I'm talking about amazon and not the 3DS
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>>149204902
Are you stupid? Go to Amazon.jp to get another LL. Fucking idiot.
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>>149205030
What part of the 3DS is region locked is not getting to you? I can't play my games on a JP LL.
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>>149205426
Why did you buy other region games if you knew this?

Why did you waste your time getting an LL of all things?

Why don't you just run homebrew on it like someone with common sense that wants to get around region locked games would?
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Just killed Baal Avatar, I guess now it's time to start grinding for TDE.

I wasted Bolt Storm and got Attack All instead, I'm starting to regret now.
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>>149205743
>Why did you buy other region games if you knew this?
Because my current 3DS LL/regular old 3DS is also North American and I didn't?

>Why don't you just run homebrew on it like someone with common sense that wants to get around region locked games would?
Because I don't need to. My current 3DS' c-pad is fucked, that's all that's wrong with it.
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>>149206254
And sorry, I just realized LL is apparently a JP specific name, but why would I call it fucked when region locking is working as should?
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Are there any more jumps in difficulty in Naoya's day 8?

Basically anything like Babel
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>>149199208
you must suck because raidou 2 is a million times better than 1 in terms of combat
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I have a question about Soul Hackers, though I'm sure it applies to the other games as well. If I have one piece of equipment that is weak to curse, and another that nullifies it, what happens?

I can't find my own strengths and weaknesses, I'll feel pretty stupid if it's right in front of my face
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>>149197501
But I am playing Debisama, anon.
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How are the endings in FINAL/Apocalypse?
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>tfw showed that bitch Babel who's boss

It's good to be king, motherfuckers.
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Rank every single MegaTen game including the Digital Devil Saga and Persona that you have played from best to worst
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>>149214438
No.
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>>149214438
>IV was good
>DDS 1 was also good but I didn't get very far

ez list
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>>149210578
Does anyone know?
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>>149210578
The game crashes.
Nah, it nulls it.

>>149207108
I think the second to fifth mission are relatively tough. The final boss is also tough as fuck if you aren't well prepared.
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is SMT the most political game series?
is SMT the most /pol/ game series?
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>>149216432
thanks
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>>149217302
Vampire the Masquerade and the Civilization series are probably more political and /pol/ than any other megaten.
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>>149214438
Nah.
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Playing SMT IV now. Which is the least depressing ending to go for? Neutral?
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>>149221698
White.
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>>149217302
Nah, it's literally just niche cyberpunk fantasy + ideals mixed in. The ideals are neat to read and talk about, and also explore. Always remember that a lot of it is just "this looks cool, keep it in" though.
And there's no way SMT is the most /pol/ game series. Even Kaneko alone couldn't be farther from it, from all I read about him.
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Devil Survivor fusion makes me get OCD heeby jeebies
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SMT GO when?
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Did you guys brush your teeth
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Why was there no shadow Jun?
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>>149226252
Jun made the shadows as Joker
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>>149226252
Rumors made their shadows anifest. There was no rumor of Jun.
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>>149226476
This. Nobody gives a shit about Jun.
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>>149226687
I do ;_;
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>>149226252
Because he became his Shadow, basically, before you saved him. Joker is it.
Also, because the Shadow Selves are made from the rumor that the Masked Circle made that blamed them for the bombings. If the children didn't spread their own rumor about them actually saving everyone, then they'd cease to exist and be replaced. That's why they both meet, and why Jun didn't have one.
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>>149226687
Nyarly, stop that. I thought you left this thread 3 years ago.
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>>149226710
>>149226950
Kill you're selfes
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>>149227227
Shit, this has me nostalgic about 2012 /smtg/.
What a ride it's been. All we need is Gas Chamber girl now, and tuba man.
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>all these challenge quests for Neutral
>fucking fetch quests
for what reason
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>>149227404
2cute
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>>149155804
No, it's called being a human. The fact you can't tell the difference between a kid having a hissy fit and an adult disagreement shows your own immaturity.
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>>149227404
Here's some more moldy oldies
>That thing where you select a file but it closes the window and asks you to select it again
Fucking
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>>149197696
Persona 4 DAN
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>>149227547
tu cut
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>>149203895
I think the Animal Crossing one is small.
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>>149227937
2 cat
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I want to fuck Mirai
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Should I play Atelier Iris 1 or FES
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>>149228054
Faker.
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>>149227726
Fucking any Dresser Lawfag picture brings me back.
Always loved that name too, and how he always switched it to Lesser Drawfag.
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>>149228298
I think you're the fake hedgehog around here
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>>149229031
I'll make you eat those words
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Hoy.
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>>149234369
This is real, right?
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>>149235480
I'm gonna guess it's from the Debisama LP I posted.
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>>149235634
Anon, please.
I'm getting afraid that you didn't understand the joke.
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>>149236015
Too busy playing games to
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Hoy.
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Hoy.
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Hoy.
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Live.
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anyone got captain barbosa looking at captain jack frost
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Why is Chaos ending in SMT:IV so shit?
I just wanted Humans to have the chance to enter Heaven. But no, somehow my choices meant that I must WANT Lucifer to create a world in which he prospers no matter what
That ending was just ass.
Also, I could have ended the game before that ending.
Isabeau is a weak cutie pie.
>>149198148
Took me 65 hours to finish it.
I did every quest at the beginning before the TWEEEEST but then after that it just felt repetitive and I just wanted to beat the fucking game.
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>>149256716
I did it with Demi-Fiend as the only one with Pierce and Futomimi as designated buffer. I also had Masakados, if that bears mentioning.
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>>149256716
Demi-fiend with Pierce and Freikugel can take care of Lucifer by himself. Every time I replay Nocturne I never bother to give my demons Pierce, they're just there to buff/debuff and heal.
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http://personacentral.com/megami-tensei-cycle-wear-announced-october-2016/

Would you rock Jack Frost when you're out cycling /smtg/?
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>defeat Babel and hope the Eighth Day will be kind of like a victory lap with some angel asskicking mixed in
>fucking Metatron

To be fair, everyone getting behind you as Overlord is kind of hype, this game was pretty great.
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>>149263218
>choosing the getting cucked by Atsuro ending instead of the edgelord one
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>>149257213
>>149257395
Sorry for deleting the post.

Yeah, it was a pretty easy fight, took me less than 10 minutes.

I used Vishnu for healing, Metatron and Beelzebub to cast buff/debuffs and since Lucifer don't cast any Dekaja/Dekunda, they did nothing for the rest of the fight while Demi-fiend did all the work alone.

Heard that Demi-fiend in DDS is way harder, I will wait an PSN sale to get it.
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>>149268253
>and since Lucifer don't cast any Dekaja/Dekunda
He does have both actually but he almost never uses them for some reason.
And yes, Demi-fiend in DDS is way harder.
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>>149268253
>Demi-fiend in DDS is way harder
>mfw spend almost 50 hours maxing mantras, farming noises and maxing everyone's stats/HP/MP
>finally start the battle
>first turn get blitzed with physical attacks, ailments and debuffs
>two party members dead and one charmed and debuffed before I can even act

God I love that fight. Finally beating it felt so good.

Never again though.
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>>149197501
EOP scrub
Really, what the fuck happened with the actual script-hacking for Debisama? I know there's a script already prepared and whatnot
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>>149265136

>cucked by Atsuro instead of Edgelord

I chose Naoya's route, that's Edgelord, right?
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>>149197501
>Sony didn't allowed Atlus USA to localized it because of "lack of new content"
>years later, Sony fills the PS4 library with nothing but remasters of 1~2 years old games.

It's almost funny.
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Hoy.
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How's the OST in Final?
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Hoy.
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Mudo.
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Recarm
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Hoy.
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>just beat Megami Tensei II
>that OST
>that entire Hell section of the game
>that Astaroth being a jackass like always
>fucking Satan offering you a drugged drink
Holy fuck, that was an adventure. This might actually be one of my favorites in the series.

Also, I noticed that Baal and Lucifer talk about YHVH sundering and throwing the old gods into the Abyss, and YHVH himself mentions the Great Will. Is this game's story supposed to be connected to Shin Megami Tensei? or did SMT "reboot" the series?
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>was watching the japanese pokemon opening because i was bored
>found this
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fq7F-nfIxIo&list=PLJjLiVClLq9IzRVqh5xsmlHoTgp0GzbOW&index=3#t=8.055311
>it starts the same as dante's theme in nocturne.
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=egzutCUFaOw
what the fuck
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>>149289101
Holy fuck, it's actually the same

Maybe it's a sample they took from the same place?
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>>149289101
churazy
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How do I motivate myself to continue playing any SMT games? I'm getting tired of long video games so even though I want to play Devil Survivor Overclocked, Nocturne, Soul Hackers and DDS1 I just can't. I'll hesitate, thinkingthat I won't go far into any of these games anyway and do something else. I wanted to continue DDS but I started reading useless shit online all day long, it's nearly midnight and I'm reading a huge essay about tumblr, livejournal, fanfics and censorship, what the fuck am I doing with my life?
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>>149290765
DDS 1 is boring as fuck, I don't blame you.
Just take a break from RPGs and long games in general, go play short action games or something.
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>>149283123
Different universes.
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>>149290908
I'm already doing this, I finished Ghost Trick some days ago, but I bought the games I talked about at the very beginning of the year and the other games I havent completed yet are long too.
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>>149254806
Because the Mikado citizens are all genetically part demon.
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>>149254806
Anon you are the one who rules that is why he tells Flynn to become King.
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>>149290765
I felt the same about Nocturne. At some point I loved it and was hyped to play it, but now I find myself just going back to SMT1 to laugh at how broken Zio is, or IV because of how good the Talk system is.
Other fanbases do their thing, man. I wouldn't even hate on a western MT fanbase because of just how niche it is. Still scared Apocalypse won't do well, especially since it's a neat game.
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>>149290765
Try playing them a little bit at a time--like just until the next save point or through one battle in DeSu. Or if you really want to get into time management/studying tactics, do the 20+10 thing: 20 minutes of the thing you don't want to do plus ten minutes of the thing you do want to do as a reward after finishing the twenty minutes. Rinse and repeat.
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>>149292202
I haven't played Nocturne yet, I think I'll play it last; I already started the other games and I regret not playing only one at once, that's why I'm trying to focus on DDS right now. there are some dedicated fans on tumblr and ao3 but the fanbase is really small, not counting persona-only fans. It's a shame but at the same time large fandoms are often really terrible. That's why I like hanging out on /smtg/ these days.

>>149292632
I'm kind of used to do that for games on portable consoles, I'll try to do that on my PS2 instead of playing as much as possible non stop and then not touch the game for a week.
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>>149247337
>>149243139
>>149240329
Ahoy.
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>>149269645
Naoya's route diverges in two on the 8th day, into Warlord path (don't kill humans, shounen hero ending) and Despot (kill humans and rule over humanity as a tyrant). In the Warlord ending, Atsuro gets close to Yuzu while MC is away. But who even gives a shit when MC has every demon pussy in the world at his whim.
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>>149290765
I'm feeling the same thing with Devil Survivor 2, the gameplay is actually quite good but the story and characters are totally garbage and I just don't want to continue playing.

I thinking about just watch the anime despite knowing how bad it is.
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>>149293438
You also get to f*ck Black Frost.

HEE HO ~
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>>149293496
What makes the story so bad? It seems like it's a popular opinion here. Talking about the game, I know the characters in the anime are always acting ooc or something.
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>>149293438
Yoohoo is only good for paizuri anyway.
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>>149293952
SMT typically doesn't deal with "Aliens did it XDD" so it's kind of an outlier as far as stories go. I never finished it because the premise turned me off so horribly and I hate the character designs.
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>>149293952
I'm on the 5th day of DeSu 2 right now. I'm liking the game just fine but it's not terribly interesting so far. Also DeSu 1 sale on the eshop fucking when I want to play that too.
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>>149293752
Lewds of Black Frost when?
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>>149294269
I dislike the character deign too, it looks too fanservicey. I'm glad stupid stories usually don't prevent me from enjoying a game, if the gameplay is good then it shouldn't bother me too much. I'll have to play Overclocked first before buying it though.

>>149294436
I got Overclocked on sales near Christmas 2015 on the European eshop. If you're European too you'll have to wait a long time I think. Atlus USA announces sales on their twitter usually right?
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>>149293438
>8th day
I hear a lot about how good the story in this game is, but is it worth playing the original, non-Overclocked version? I don't have a 3ds and thought it would be fun to emulate this game to kill some time. Probably gonna go whatever the Chaos route is, by the way.

Also, did I cuck myself too hard by going physical? I keep hearing about how much better magic is.
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>>149293496
>the story and characters are totally garbage
Have you not played DeSu 1 or something? It's Only to be expected that the sequel of a shit game will be even shittier
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>>149293438
>Atsuro gets close to Yuzu
They got more than "closer". Yuzu outright says they fucked.
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>>149295239
>did I cuck myself too hard by going physical?

Yep, in end-game most enemies have Phys resist. You don't need to restart the game but try to focus more on Ma.
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Have been playing SMTIV again to try and get neutral.
>Lawful before Gaia trials
>Neutral after trials
>Sided with Walter
>Still Neutral
>Pick mostly chaotic choices possible to try and drive alignment down (except didn't jump the people in blasted Tokyo)
>Choose to preserve status quo

And now Walter shows up after the White. Is there any way to alter alignment in Infernal Tokyo or am I just fucked?
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>>149295834
You're fucked harder than an anime fan on prom night.
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>>149295834
I remember there were some choices in Infernal Tokyo. You're probably fucked.
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>>149296225
Shit man.
I already did Chaos the first time around. Maybe I'll just do Nothing and follow a guide from the very start this time to not fuck up.

>>149296303
I've gotta be near the threshold for neutral, which is making this even more annoying.
Too bad you can't check your alignment in blasted/infernal tokyo.
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>>149295549
There's nothing like that. Hell, even all Naoya says is that Atsuro's momentary dream (of having Yuzu to himself) is going to come to an end soon.
>>149295239
The 8th days are kind of pasted on, no lie. But the gameplay is more refined in Overclocked. You're fucking yourself, start dumping all your points in Magic and Agility right away. 7th days are crawling with Phys Repel demons, and Pierce doesn't work on Phys Repel.
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>>149295834
you should go chaos in the beginning and start siding with Jonathon when Walter starts being a retarded after activating the reactor. Thats how I got neutral without a guide.
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>>149296943
>atlus will never produce another masterpiece on the level of sector grus
why live
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>>149298261
>masterpiece on the level of sector grus
fpfhtahaha
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Can nocturne run on a Pavilion HP laptop(a toaster at this stage)
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>>149298916
You're going to need a dedicated GPU at the least to emulate PS2 stuff above 15fps, my laptop with a Intel integrated can run some Dolphin stuff fine, but PS2 emulation is still clunky without the hardware to back it up.
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>>149180063
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So are Lucifer and Satan different entities in Christian mythology, or is this just something that Atlus made up?
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>>149300065
SMT Satan has nothing to do with Christian Satan. It's the Jewish one.
Lucifer is the equivalent of Christian Satan in SMT.

Generally speaking though, SMT doesn't deal with Christian mythology; it's all Jewish.
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>>149298916
I emulated Nocturne on my laptop with only a few minimal issues like some layering/texture problems and the occasional audio glitch.

I'd say just try messing with settings and see what you can do.
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>>149293438
There is , actually, an optional dialogue with Izuna in the Warlord path where you can tell that after the angels are taken care of you plan to rule the world anyway. Unlike the Despot route, she is more resigned to it then fearful tho. (Naoya approves... obviously)
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>>149300419
>>149300065
From what I know, Satan means "adversary". Satan is the angel that is supposed to tempt and judge men and show God that mankind can be led astray (go read the book of Job, it's fun). It can be discussed whether Satan refers to a single angel (if so, he could be Mastema, who has similar functions) or is just a title that could be taken by any archangel who is gonna play that role at the time.

Lucifer is actually born of a mistranslation of the expression "morning star" in the Bible that refered to some babylonian king. The story around him is pretty common in older religions, but he problably is based on ancient canaanite god Attar, the Morning Star, who attempted to take Baal's (who himself ended up known as the demon Beelzebub by the christians) place as king of the gods, but failed and ended up as some king of the underworld.

In latter christian literature, like Paradise Lost, Lucifer takes the name of "Satan" after his fall, to show he is opposing God, so christians often confuse the two angels, and both names ended up synonimous with "the devil", but they are very much different entities with different origins.
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Sukukaja.
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>>149307231
Dekaja!
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Die For Me!
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>>149314558
Still can't believe that they turned Die For Me! into an army of teddy bears, with sticks of dynamite strapped on their backs, falling out of the sky, and suicide bomb rushing the demons.
The absolute madmen.
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>>149315669
I want to tickle Io's butt
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SMT is for fags.

The Fallout 4 with the demon summoning mod is better.
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>>149323670
>High Pixie
DUDE WEED, LMAO.
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>>149326702
Not even bait can wake us up my friend
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>Wonfes is one day away
>probably no SMT figures again

At least I've seen a very cool Hanoun garage kit.
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night fags
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Why did the title "Shin Megami Tensei" never go through a translation or renaming when the series came over to the west?
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>>149330532
Because it translates rather silly.
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>>149330532
It kinda did though, remember Revelations: The Demon Slayer and Revelations: Persona?

Thank Lucifer that never caught on.
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>>149330532
Niche recognition, the reaction to Persona 1, and because any kind of translation would be ridiculous. NEW Reincarnation of the Goddess?
It only works in Japanese because it looks cool and is short enough.

That makes me think though, SMT1 is one crazy idea. Take this weird 80s niche book-turned-game success and reinvent everything about it, have it not connect to the original storyline, have a different theme completely, and add in crazy 90s things instead. SMT2 at least sorta matches well with MT2, but what a fucking risk 1 was.
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Started playing Soul Hackers recently despite buying it forever ago. Fun so far.

Any good resources for Soul Hackers fan art? The boorus are all but stone dry.
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https://youtu.be/zUaXc73KW2o How do you feel about this?
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>>149332472
This has got to be the saddest I've felt for someone in a while. There's almost nothing, pal. Pixiv sometimes maybe has a new one or two.
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>>149332213
Creator loved SMT1 tho
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>>149332550
Eh.
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>>149332652
Shame.

I remember seeing some cool art of it posted forever ago in these threads but I lost it in a computer change-over.
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>>149332710
Did she? That's so fucking rad that they did it so different but the author still loved it. Glad that with all the Persona buzz too, that there's still some good love for mainline.
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>>149332550
Cars in SMT when?
>drive Interceptor-like car across the wasteland
>car fusion

>>149332710
That reminds me, are the original DDS novels any good? The OVA was pretty awesome, but also didn't make any sense at the same time.
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>>149333309
>That reminds me, are the original DDS novels any good?

No, but read them anyway.
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SMT x Okami.
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>>149333309
What the other anon said. It's like any other silly Japanese horror/fantasy novel, but it's still worth seeing how everything began. It's also a trip.
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>>149332213
There was a scan floating around with beta screen from SNES SMT1 and it looked much closer to MT2 with bright colors instead of more muted palette.
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>>149334240
Actually, here it is.
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>>149334352
Oh wow, neat. I always loved the muted colors more, so I'm glad for the change, but I love finding beta art like this.
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>>149332652
>>149332906
Pivix ain't a bust at least, though I'm sad I couldn't find this one particular artist I was looking for.
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Hoy.
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>>149182151
>all the spoilers
Nigger
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>>149254806
Actually in IV, you get to become king while girl Lucy gives you handjobs from your best friend. It isn't like Nocturne where you go through trials to become a general only to lose toYHVN in the end.
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>>149339929
>only to lose toYHVN in the end.
Please stop talking about that DLC as if it was canon. It's not.
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>>149339929
>It isn't like Nocturne where you go through trials to become a general only to lose toYHVN in the end

But you don't know what happened.
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>>149339976
Neither is TDE.
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>>149326702
>thus isn't real
Kill me.
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If I just finished IV and thought it was tough, should I bother with Strange Journey or will it eat me alive?
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>>149339976
DLC he was bitchslapped by Lucy. All routes are canon. This is point in the Hunter Memoms canon DLC.
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>>149343249
Sure why not. SJ isn't that hard except for some dungeons and Mommy.
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>>149293438
Atsuro is cuter anyways.
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Aside from super fighting loli novelty purposes, is Alice worth getting in the first Raidou game?
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>>149343581
Not really. By the time you're able to get her (You have to be 60+ to get one of the demons required), you should be in or close to the final dungeon, and since she's level 32 when you get her as well as having no skills that make up for the level difference, she's more or less useless.
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Hoy.
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>>149348515
Are your demons also a bit different?
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>>149348685
Yep.

Behold, my demons!
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Did anyone else have to draw maps for megami tensei? The first few hours were easy but it got so confusing at the end. Also, does there happen to be any better way of traveling in the second game? Did they make it tedious to travel just to extend play time? It was annoying to backtrack all the way to the beginning of the game just to heal
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>>149350274
Maps are different in MT1/KMT1 so you should probably specify
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First time running SMT 4 here, aiming for Neutral on my first run.

I know there is an invisible allignment counter, is it affected if I repeat the starter quests during Navarre's challenge to grind exp/macca?
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Hoy.
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>>149345215(Or anyone willing to awnser)
So still playing the first Raidou game and I'm trying to fuse Mishaguji to get Omnyo but I dont seem to be able to.

Do I need to beat it first or something?
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>>149356002
Yes
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>YOU TAKE CHANCE. DIG HERE.
>Dig
>Dig
>Dig

W-Wat do?
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>>149357883
Dig.
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Has anyone ever tried to speedrun a MegaTen game, even if just Jack Bros or Snowboard Kids?
Would ask in the right general but
>/srg/
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Comfiest SMT song or comfiest SMT song?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A9Z5cvDlM9Q
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>>149357883
never stop digging
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>>149358725
Makes me feel too bad and miss Hero's mom.
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>>149358502
>>149358776

>YOU FOUND LIFE STONE. YOU LUCKY.
>You get Life Stone x1
>NOT JOIN YOU FOR FREE
>GIVE LIFE STONE
>AWOOOOOOO
>Gryphon is extremely satisfied!
>Gryphon is now your demon!
>mfw

I feel like I've been rused somehow.
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>>149359487
AWOOOOOOO
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>>149359487
Get the item and macca gift upgrades and you'll literally profit more than you lose from demons
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>>149351695
It doesn't.
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>>149359487
Wouldn't have it any other way.
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>looking up SMT vids because I'm bored and want to see new content
>end up seeing this on the first fucking page
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r1SD0_utWf0
Is it weird to have someone believe in the same argument you do, but in a completely fucked way that makes him seem like an ass?
How come mainline gets stuck with a guy like this as a fan?
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>>149361154
i hate his videos and his hair
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>>149361408
also his dumb intro he had, all i remember was a megaman sprite of him
and how his video titles are always on the thumbnail

i cant believe he has a kid, but i guess thats not much of an achievement
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>tfw still stuck on fucking Metatron and apparently all I get for it is to see my buddy fuck Yuzu

Any tips for this fucker?

To be honest though, Yuzu is an annoying bitch and Atsuro is a total bro, so I'm alright with this.
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>>149361408
It's very weird to be agnostic or Catholic(what I was before) while still being really into the games. The depictions are not always accurate, but they sure as hell make me want to search up about the religions they show. Even for my own, I see stuff like the evolution of the Gabriel design and get so happy, because of how it matches up with historical depictions, etc.
It seems really weird to me for an atheist who hates religion to like the series since the creators really appreciate them all, and love to share that with people who would normally not care or know about them.

I can understand someone being angry at a depiction in SMTIVF, but I'm surprised nobody's gone crazy over Shiva and how not-Shiva she is.
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>>149332984
>she
Anon...
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>>149362378
Shit, I saw the name as Aya and always thought it was some cool grandma. Ah well.
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>>149362750
No, Nakajima is his fucking OC
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>>149362895
Don't say this pls anon, Nakajima was cool in a "stupid programmer who gets lucky" sort of way. Like a cheesy 80s horror nerd protagonist.
Having him just be the author's Mary Sue is fucked.
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>>149361154
nice blog post m8. you're totally discussing megaten and not trying to boost your ego having people agreeing with you.
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>>149364870
>try to start a conversation over religious beliefs and how it relates to Megaten with >>149362224
>get told I'm blogging and just want to boost my ego.
What. I'd actually love to see different reactions since that could let me see a different side of things. Why don't you show yours? You might've misunderstood me, but I still wanna know what you think.
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Hoy.
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>>149364806
>Like a cheesy 80s horror nerd protagonist.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UIE0BQNGckE

Please watch it if you haven't anon, you'll enjoy it. He's basically Nakajima.
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>>149362120

BEAT THAT DUDE'S PUNK ASS

Fuck you Metatron, and fuck the angels.

As a final comment on this gr8 game, I'd like to say that it's more like Atsuro is being cucked by me once I get back rather than the other way around. :^)
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>>149369547
>"And Satan said to the Man of God..."
Already hyped, thank you man!
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>>149195605
Already completed it, bro.
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>>149371067
Fuck
>>149197501
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>>149371067
Nice
But did you beat Hokuto and Nanto Seikun and the 4 extra bosses?
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Hoy.
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>>149369619
Do Despot next.

Become the leader humanity needs. Overthrow the Wigs that even Eagles won't touch Dictatorship of America.
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Hoy.
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Hoy.
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>>149371472
Only Hokuto and Nanto.
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>>149382812
Prepare to grind those Chiyoumen
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Guys how the fuck do i get the angry doll in smt2?
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>tfw no toku with Kaneko's designs
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Why is Persona 2 combat so easy? I bet even Persona 4 Golden on Safety might be harder.
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>>149389193
Fusion spells being a thing?
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Serious question...is the FE/SMT Wii U game worth playing?
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>>149390004
Not unless you want a game that's 90% repetitive animations over bootleg SJ combat, and 10% idolshit
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>>149390171
I wonder if the folks working to un-sensor it will make it ant better. I don't have a Wii U, but strangely find myself wanting to buy one just for this and Xenoblade Chronicles.
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>>149358983
at least appreciate the effort

>>149286650
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>>149145592
Only for the story and the last block of Tartarus
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>>149390171
The session system it's much better than the co-op shit from strange journey.
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If even, Shin Megami Tensei II.
If odd, Kyuuyaku Megami Tensei.
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>>149390310
As meh as I feel for P4, that's just no good. Did not like how that social link went through at all.
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>>149391891
>traumatized

I'm getting there I guess.
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>>149390004
I think it's fairly worthwhile if you enjoy games in the Persona vein and like character-focused stories. Tone and levity is about on par with Persona 4: although everything is bright and optimistic the characters generally struggle through some sort of personal problem. It's still very anime though and this game will definitely allow you to be the dense harem self-insert you always wanted if you so choose.

There's a lot of care and craft put into everything - there's lots of little nice touches here and there - even if you don't like the colour palette everything is executed with a lot of polish. It lacks a lot of the gameplay elements that people enjoy about SMT, though - there's no real fusing to solve challenges and most dungeons/battles are straightforward.

This means that while it's possible to fight smarter to some extent, sometimes you'll just run into situations where the only solution is leveling up (basing this on the "Hard" difficulty, which puts the game difficulty wise around the same as Persona 3 I would say).

If you are into the characters, premise, or story it will definitely be a fun ride, but if you're looking for an SMT-style game you'll be disappointed.
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>>149391891
Beaten
>Nocturne
>Persona 4
>Raidou 1 + 2
>Strange Journey
>Survivor 1
In the middle of
>SMT I + IV
>Soul Hackers
>Survivor 2
Gave up on
>Persona 3
I've a ways to go.
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>>149392513
About what I expected. I enjoy both SMT and Persona gameplay.

I keep looking at people who play Pokemon Go (I play Ingress instead) and think that it would so work for SMT. Go around negotiating to capture demons. Join either the Law, Neutral or Chaos side/
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>>149393141
>SMT Go
if anything they would release Persona Go since you can talk with shadows in P5
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>>149390293
The censorship honestly didn't change much, even with all the talks about the changed dungeon. When it comes to how it fits with the story, it still makes sense. Game wasn't that good while playing in Japanese though, and not much better now. If limited money, save up for Final and/or Persona 5. If you have a Wii U and can spare the money, are also lightly into Fire Emblem and like idoru, then you'll probably be okay.
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>>149393141
I'll note there's still some of the SMT thematic chops there even if it's only a bit of lip service - the group's leader, Maiko, explains early in the game that in a sense modern idols and performance art have always been deeply linked with spirituality, and early shamans indeed were thought to have been "possessed" by other entities while performing.

It's not as deep or as multilayered as the themes that run in say, Soul Hackers, but part of what has always impressed me about SMT great is that they mesh things with a great deal of intentionality and still manage to cash out. The conjunction of Mirages, talent agencies, and pop idols actually is blended with great care even if the end product is not to the taste of a lot of people.
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>>149393695
I'd play that too if they released it.
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>>149392641
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>>149393695
Not him but we had some neat little thing from the promotional stuff for FINAL, no?
Some expanded version of that could be fun. Honestly though I could do without a Go of any type.
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>>149393928
I can afford a Wii U, that's no issue. Just hard to buy a console to play two games. Maybe when it goes down in price. Here's looking for Black Friday deals on one.
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>>149390293
The only real difference in the censorship is that skin gets covered up.

There's no major changes to gameplay, just a number of pictures getting changed to more modest versions (one dungeon features a good chunk of photographs of women in bikinis which get changed to women in casual clothes - this slightly changes the theme of the dungeon from "Gravure" to more general "Photography").

Most of the stuff in the original game is barely on the edge of ESRB T stuff, the aggressive censorship is probably just more a case of NoA being very careful about their family-friendly image (and as publishers go they are very hyper-paranoid about it).
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>>149394710
I have no doubt the changes are cosmetic, but it's the principle of the matter to me. I do like to see what the original intention of the creators was.
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>>149391891
Beaten
>KMT 2
>SMT 1-3
>Persona 1-4
>DDS 1 and 2
Playing
>SJ
>Raidou 1
Gave up on
>KMT 1
Manchild tier, huh? Guess I need to step it up. I'm glad there's so many fucking games in this series.

>>149389193
Innocent Sin is easy as fuck, but Eternal Punishment is actually pretty challenging. Just keep playing.
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>>149394020
Only until I beat one more game!
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>>149391891
Beaten:
> KMT
> SMT I
> SMT IV
> Strange Journey
> Devil Summoner
> Soul Hackers
> P1
> P2: IS
> TMS
In the middle of:
> SMT II
> DemiKids Dark Version
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>>149391891
>SMT I
>Nocturne
>Digital Devil Saga 1&2
>Raidou 1&2
>Persona 1, Persona 2 IS&EP, Persona 3, Persona 4
>Strange Journey
>Devil Survivor 1

I need to buy a 3DS.
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Confession: I've never bothered with the Digital Devil Saga games because they don't have fusion.
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Does anybody have the picture where Flynn saves his game by touching hair to Jonathan's afro?
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>>149396454
I started playing the first one and got through a couple of dungeons. Enjoyed it. Maybe one day I'll go back and finish.
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>>149396680
I found the first one a bit boring, especially the middle chunk.
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>>149332906
Have you checked OUR booru?

The chances are that if it's not there, you are only missing out on terribly drawn art.
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>>149397209
I enjoyed it and didn't find it boring. It just seemed a bit overwhelming with all of the different skills to learn. Also, isn't there not a direct transfer to part 2?
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>>149391891
Beaten SJ, on 1.
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In a scale from 1 to not even japanese people can read it, how is the text of the games in general? Can I hope to know what do I have to do and where do I have to go with begginer-ish knowledge at least?
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>>149396454
Do you not play any JRPGs outside of Atlus ones?
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>>149402438
No, just fusion's always been one of my favorite aspects of the series, so a game cutting all that out kinda dampened my interest in it.
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>>149389193
P2 is easy to break. Though the difficulty fucked up for me because I won the lottery for Eikichi's weapon very early on. That kind of broke the game in half, especially after getting the fish.
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>tfw no SMT /tg/

kill me
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>>149406357
>Devil Summoner London long done
>Persona 2129 canceled
>Task Force 666 alternating with Kaz's other quest

It was a good run for SM/tg/ even without actual /tg/ material.
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>>149406882

At this point I'm probably gonna do a Fate hack and call it a day.
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>every time I try to play nocturne I get bored within 3 hours
I really wish I could stick with this game especially since I hear the story gets really good
the only SMT games I've beaten are devil survivor on the 3ds and the digital devil saga
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>>149409098

I made the mistake of playing IV before anything else and now the thought of playing on console makes me physically ill
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>>149409098
Nocturne's first few hours are boring as fuck. I hate to say it, but it's true. The game kicks off into a sprint once you pass those first few hours.
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>>149410575
Stop being an obnoxious handheldfag and go play SMT I/II/Nocturne.
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>>149410652
To me the hospital was one of the best first dungeons in any game ever, and the first hour was where the story was at one of its strongest points.

>those basement and rooftop scenes
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>>149410652
The beginning is one of the best parts though.
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>>149411241
I fully agree. Who doesn't want meet Pixie for the first time?
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>>149411486
>The Conception
>Exploring Shinjuku hospital
>Meeting best girl
>Not letting her go in Yoyogi Park
>Ginza
>Going into Amala for the first time
Fuck now I have to replay Nocturne again.
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>>149411486
Especially when it's the first megaten game you played.

Jack Frost is ok but Pixie will always be the one true SMT mascot to me.
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>>149411885
This. Fuck meme frost
>le he ho xD
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>>149414331
>tfw you got into SMT too late to play Imagine

It physically hurts.
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>>149414536
>tfw you played imagine
You're not missing much.
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>>149416342
Not too bad.
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https://twitter.com/yuuji1101/status/756834487137218560
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Any good Nocturne Let's Plays?
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>>149416342
>those eyes
>that collarbone
>those calves

And I bet it doesn't even glow in the dark.
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>>149261052

I would, but I don't really like the design in this case so much. The price is also pretty ridiculous. I'd like to see how it looks on actual person.

Oh, so I got a letter from the local Jehovah's Witnesses asking if I'd like to do a three-day seminar with them. Fucking weird or what?
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How do you change your party members in Persona 1? Masao is so goddamm useless and slow, I want to switch him out for someone better. Also I chose Hidehiko as my fifth party member.
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>How do you change your party members in Persona 1?
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>>149420568
>How do you change your party members in Persona 1?

I have some bad news anon...
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>>149420568
>How do you change your party members in Persona 1?
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>>149420568
>How do you change your party members in Persona 1?
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>>149420568
In the SEBEC route you can only change the last member. Shame on you for not taking best girl, by the way.

Mark is not bad, though. His low agi means that he will lag behind the others in experience, but physical damage is pretty good for killing bosses. Maybe you could get a high Agi persona for him to make up for his weakness.
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>>149421351
Erry a cutie
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>>149421351
Man, it was great that there were no wrong party member picks. Each held up real well.
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Just finished Soul Hackers. Is the Sea Ark worth doing? How long is it?
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>>149420734
>>149421108
>>149421141
>>149421265
>>149421351
Dang it had I known it was like that I wouldn't have taken Brown, I wish I took Elly instead. I kinda felt bad when Ayase got pissed when my party was full.
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>>149423797
Most people make that mistake when they play P1, I did it myself the first time too.

All party members are useful though, people say Reiji is the strongest but I didn't think he was anything special when I used him.

I don't really like him either, he's basically that red haired kind from Pokemon Gold/Silver. I found it kinda meh.
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>>149423797
>>149424981
Persona 1 did a really good job at making everyone likable and also powerful at their own right. The thing about Reiji is that his Contacts work with just about any demon, and he gets some unique, high level personas that only he can equip (like Nyarlatothep and Lucifer). Overall, though, I find that best-girl Elly is the most powerful and useful because of her high Dex, Rifles and those sweet Judgement personas that protect her from all magic. She has saved my skin many times.

Brown is pretty strong, though, especially because SMG's are amazing in the later game, and I think he is a pretty fun character as well. Consider the characters you didn't get to use yet as replay value.
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>>149424981
>>149426590
I don't mind that I'm stuck with Brown, him and Nanjo are the best on my team. Is everyone available on the Snow Queen route? If they are then I want to take Elly or maybe Ayase.
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>>149427391
Snow Queen route forces you to take Yukino and Ayase and let's you choose the last two members, though Mark and Reiji are not avaiable.

They don't get as much development on the Snow Queen quest though, as it happens during a small part of the main story, so there is that.
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Io Nitta is so fucking sexy I can't take it.
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>>149427954
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>>149427954
Don't fuck your bro, bro
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>>149428050
OH FUCK STOP.

>>149428104
I DON'T GIVE A SHIT
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>>149428317
Don't tell me what to do you horny faggot.
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>>149428396
I gotta get out of this fucking thread before I have a stroke. FUCK
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>>149428317
Listen, you can't just fuck a bro. Bros are for friendship, not sexualizing. Brohoes before hoes.
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>>149428452
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>>149116325
>tfw it's not Pascal
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>>149428597
>>149428663
AHHHHHHHHHH
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>>149428748
Calm down. You're acting like they're posting Isabeau or something.
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>>149428994
>like they're posting Isabeau or something.
This is an appropriate pic for that.
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>>149428748
Stop.
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>>149428994
>>149429159
DID SOMEBODY SAY BOBO
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>>149429179
I could calm down if you stopped posting FREE DICK BAIT.
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>>149429343
No. Go away.
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>>149429382
Well sorry, I only had like 3 sexy images of Io.
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>>149429452
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>>149369547
Speaking of Evilspeak, I just found that there is Colonel Coopersmith of US Army in Debisama.
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>>149385279
>angry doll
IIRC, there is a guy in one of Holytown's buildings (the one where you fight Knig Frost) who tries to open the door to Makai. I don't remember when that happens, but he eventually gives up and gives you the Angry Doll.
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>>149429464
That and 5 minutes is all I need.
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I want to get angry at how fast this thread jumped the shit shark, but it's late, I'm tired, and fuck if I care enough to do anything about it.
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>>149389193
>I bet even Persona 4 Golden on Safety might be harder.

It's not. It's too easy for even easy standards.

Source: I'm lazy and usually play games first on easiest setting, harder on replay.

But even P4G is just too fucking much.
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>>149430369
Good, nobody wants to hear an autistic meta rant.
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>>149390310
i love law hero
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>>149393141
>I keep looking at people who play Pokemon Go (I play Ingress instead)

theyre the same fucking game
just pkmn makes you look dumb and gives away youre playing it
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>>149418565
I CANT TELL IF THESE ARE REAL OR GK
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>>149426590
Well, Chris is also interesting to bring because of Guido being his brother or whatever
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>>149431509
>Chris
>Guido
>playing 'murrican Persona
It does have the best soundtrack though, I will give you that. I wish I could read the ancient tongue to play the original version.
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>>149422962
It's relatively short barring preparing your party for a few tough bosses.

It's worth doing because it is your ticket to NG+
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>>149421445
He looks like the CG of a PS1 cutscene
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>>149432367
I played both, so suck my dick.
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>>149432367
Just patch the music, bro.

Meguro's jpop is fine as background music, but it fucking sucks for this game, and the original OST is miles better.
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>>149432867
I'm p sure they want to play P1 PSX un Americanized
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6NL50_W_mgU If any of these people work their social media, I take back any praise I gave them
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>>149434245
Did you mean to post this in sthg?
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>>149434729
Sega
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I just got a 3DS, should I play IV or Soul Hackers first? I've already played a few SMT games so I don't really care about which is more beginner friendly.
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>>149437017
Both are good.

The best you can do is to play the one with the gameplay and setting that interests you the most.
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>>149358725
This song is pretty comfy, in my opinion.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZscuJCOoIPc
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Man, reading that Devil Summoner LP makes me wanna replay Debisama
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>>149437410
I guess I'll go with IV. Is there any way to choose which ending you'll get, similar to SJ where you could easily change alignment in the fairy village?
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>>149438884
There isn't an easy way to change alignments in SMT IV, as far as I know, but it's worth knowing that at some point, a "Cynical Man" will start showing up at the bars you go to in order to heal and get side-quests. If you talk to him, he'll say something about your personality that corresponds to your current alignment. Here's the quotes each alignment.

http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/672441-shin-megami-tensei-iv/66805739
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>>149440137
Shit. Is there no easy way to get all the endings without replaying?
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>>149440369
I haven't beaten SMT IV yet, but I do know that at some point there's an "Alignment Lock" where you're locked into the alignment you have.
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>running flameis, Angel and Kinniari helped me beat the town hall area
>mfw
Finally I can get to the nuclear purging.
The diamond realm is going to be hell on earth.
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Hoy.
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Hoy.
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Hoy.
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This fucking guy.
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Honest question, what's the point of the Luck attribute? I just defetead Minotaur but didn't put a single point on Luck.
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>>149455284
I think higher luck means higher likelihood of successful negotation and item drops, but for Nakajima the 3 key stats are: Strength, Vitality, and Speed.
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>>149455572
Ok, I will focus on these 3 stats for Nakajima and sometimes a few points on Int and Luc.

What about Yumiko? I should focus on Int, Speed and and Luck until she gets all the spells, right?
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>>149458327
Exactly. Luck is also good for running from battles for what its worth. I ended up doing a whole lot of running in the endgame for time-saving.
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>>149458594
Thanks.

The difficulty spike in this game is really high, just reached Valhalla and I can barely defeat most enemies.
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Which demon you want to see trashed by Doi next, /smtg/?
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>>149460991
Yeah, it ramps way up but it does level out. Keep grinding and you'll be a boss soon enough.
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>>149461023
Loki
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>>149135281
I TRIED TO WARN YOU
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I'm having trouble on Strange Journey's final boss

Ouruboros keeps regenerating way faster than I can deal damage. I grinded up to about level 46 but the regenerating and AoE attacks are blowing me up hard. Any tips.
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https://twitter.com/HeeHawKun/status/757108413851537408
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>>149468726
Use demons of the same alignment as you.

Also use fire, lots and lots of fire.

Ouroboros isn't the final boss m8.
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>>149468726
>Ouroboros
>final boss

Anon...
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>>149469765
>>149470593
Ng+ doesn't count, remember?
>>149468726
Fire, lots of fire, same alignment, get best fire gun available from Irving.
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>>149424758
this going to be for sale?
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>>149472754
p sure its a gk
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>>149474608
figured but the copyright stuff threw me off
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>>149109324
Like collecting neet bucks?
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>>149475516
If you want to spend every other day wishing you were dead, sure.

If you don't feel bad, then you should actually just die.

Source: I hate myself and my borderline hikki life
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>>149475516
Hey if collecting neet bucks works for you then go for it.
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>Beat DeSu2
>Still not out of manchild tier
Fucking shit I need to finish SMT2 and KMT
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>>149478386
Yes, keep filling that hunger chart.

Hopefully you played all the PS2 games by now, haven't you? They are often on sale on PSN.
Also please make sure to get SMT for IOS, and also look forward to SMT IV Apocalypse coming this summer.
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>>149478889
>Buying games
>Owning an iPhone
No, fuck your shit.
I'll buy SMTfinal though.
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>>149479008
You are a bad fatlus.

I hope you enjoy your Persona 5 spin-offs for the next ten years.
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Okay, finally starting the Shin Megami Tensei Go: Soul Hackers challenge run.
>Install "For Anyone Who Walks A Lot" homebrew to remove 10 play coin limit
>Difficulty hack up
>You can only use demons purchased from Nemechi
>Cannot use the compendium, demons must be re-purchased from Nemechi to re-summon
>All stats for MC and Nemissa go into Luck
>MC and Nemissa can only guard during fights
>Negotiating for resources is allowed
>Any demons gained after Vision Quests or accidental recruiting must be released immediately
>Post game content is mandatory

Algon Soft NS was still pretty easy, hopefully it picks up soon.
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>>149479578
The game kinda spikes after the first encounter with your summoner rival.

Godspeed, the challenge sounds like fun.
You should also try to fulfill the quests from the Pet shop for added challenge.
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>>149479904
Thanks for reminding me, adding that to my list. Been awhile since I played it last so I forgot a lot of the smaller details.
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>>149479561
Why would I buy unoptimized PSN garbage? I already own SMT3. And isn't DDS still like, 20 bucks for a PS2 copy?

Tell Atlus USA to port Debisama to PSN and maybe I will.
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>>149484836
>a snake cockblocks you from killing her
Anyone got the portraits? The first 30 mins were entertaining.
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Boop
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>>149487921
Boop!
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Quick question.

Starting an SMT IV playthrough in preparation for Apocalypse. Besides Persona and DeSu this is my first real SMT.

Anyway I wanted to know if Final/Apocolypse made any improvements to the demon recruiting mechanic because so far these past 4 hours it's seemed pretty random whether they'll join you or not. And they usually clean my out too which makes me worried for later in the game if I'm even going to have much of any money if I give a demon 130 macca then fuck up one dialogue option and end up having to give it more money/items.
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>>149488450
>JRPG's.gif
Resident Evil is not a JRPG.
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>>149488714
Neither is Metroid, but ehh
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>>149488450
It actually gets easier the further you get, the amount of macca/items you give them will start to feel pretty negligible and even if you fail you won't be losing much.

Just make sure you get some of the negotiation apps and you should be fine.

I don't know what they changed in Apocalypse but I doubt there was any major changes, IV's negotiation is one of the least shit imo.
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>>149488992
Or Mortal Kombat. Or Mario. Or Silent Hill. Or Shantae.
Shit son, rename that gif.
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>>149489296
Yeah I was thinking about renaming it

Shin_megami_tensei_games.webm

>>149489086
Gotcha.
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>>149478889
>They are often on sale on PSN
>often

I'm waiting since october and still nothing.
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>>149491821
Sucks to be you then.

I am also having a hard time finding those on physical for a reasonable price, so when the time comes, I'll have to cave in and get them this way.
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SMT x SMT
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what should i take with me to steamroll uriel?
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>>149498439
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>lost in Valhalla
>almost no MP left
>no healing itens left
>shitty demons in my party
>don't know the way back

I think I'm going to start all over again.
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>>149501385
hows he gonna use that sword if hes a bird chicken man?
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>>149494375
Fund it.
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>>149501415
Run like a madman until you find the Hypnotist.

Don't restart. Some of my favorite experiences in the early games consist of fleeing certain death while running on fumes and trying to weasel my way out of getting pulped.
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Does anybody have a clear KMT1 save file and don't mind sharing it? Mine got corrupted and I want the bonus items for KMT2.
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>>149501942
Very carefully is how.
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>>149504435
What's in it for hee, ho?
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>Finished DeSu

Now what? I'm leaning toward Persona 1 but P2 is kinda putting me off from the idea. The $20 price tag isn't helping either.

DDS is half the price,but I prefer handhelds.
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>>149508037
DDS is god tier.
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>>149507189
I'll give you a lifestone.
pls anon
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Is the boy this big of a cunt too?
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>>149514407
Boy Tico is a suave butler.
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>>149514407
>Do NG+ for DeSu2
>Pick Female Tico because why not, I did butler last time
>She's completely insufferable, even in Japanese
Why?
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>>149516319
Her English VA definitely nailed the character, at least
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>>149516949
I skipped Tico's recaps every single day, even with the Butler. Seriously, what was the point of this "character"?
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>>149517032
To bitch about JP's before you meet Alcor?
She drops some almost completely insignificant foreshadowing I guess
>>
>>149517390
Well, I knew Yamato was a daft cunt before playing the game, anyway. I went Alcor's route because I hated the commie spic, too.
>>
I'm starting up Raidou 2. Is there anything I can miss on my first play through that would cause me to have to do more playthroughs than is necessary for 100% completion? Like say a quest gave two rewards but you could only get one per playthrough and you missed it the first time so three playthroughs would be required for 100% completion. Anything like that at all?
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>>149517519
But he's best boy
Anything's better than the communist though
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>>149517691
>Falling for the homosexual chaosfag meme
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>>149518236
But he's a lawfag in love with hierarchy and the Administrator
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SMT x Himouto! Umaru-chan
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>>149511982
I just remembered my complete save file for KMT was on the phone that I put through the wash.
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>>149520007
>Japan deserves to be nuked once again for making that hamster cartoon
>in SMT, Japan tends to get nuked

Well, this is surprisingly a good combination.
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>>149517579
From what I can tell playing it, case files usually have one reward, and they're more or less quests. The exception would be case files that give you a unique item (like a tube) the first time, then give you something else (like gems) the next time and every time afterwards. You do have to speak to demons and people to get them, though.

While on the topic of Raidou 2, I need help with the last Platform of Light/grid-thing in the Great Summoner's Hall. The final clue is this: "As the sun rises from the east, its light cast a shadow to the west. The path to the future will reveal itself where shadow and light converge." I thought it had something to do with the moon phases, but it's either something else or I'm retarded. Pic related.
>>
>tfw my n3dsxl is coming in the mail tomorrow
>ordered both devil survivor games with it since I really enjoyed emulating the first one
Is IV worth getting? I hear it's getting a sequel soon and was generally well liked
>>
>>149522472

As someone who played the shit out of DeSu: Overclocked... fuck yes.
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>>149522472
Definitely.

That one, Soul Hackers, and the Etrian Oddisey games while you're at it.
>>
Poisma
>>
Is there any reason to play KMS if you've already beaten the nes one? Is there anything different besides updated graphics?
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>>149527019
KMT*
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>>149527019

There are general quality of life updates like teleportation and some bonus items and quests if you beat MT and load your save for MTII.
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>>149501415
Just die, all you do is lose some money.
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>>149521701
>Platform of Light/grid-thing
You're not retarded, I had trouble with that at first too and figured it out by accident. What you need to do is go north to the 3rd/middle square then go east twice, then send a demon 4 squares across from you to the west, after that just go back to the middle square and go north. I hope my shitty instructions help.
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>>149235480
Alright, bring 'em out already and I'll appraise 'em for you.
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>>149414536
what
>>149414940
said. there really was not a whole lot to do besides just farm high level dungeon for levels that didn't really matter since we didn't have all the end game content iirc
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>>149531998
Thank you, I got it. I don't believe I would've figured it out on my own.
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I want to do all the endings and 100% SMT IV, is there a recommended order to do the endings?
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Anyone go that image of all the Megaten protagonists arranged in a circle?
>>
What would you do if demons showed up on earth and ruined everything?
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>>149537443
Find some cute demons and negotiate with them.
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>>149536523
Circles are for fags.
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>>149537443
Fuck the female ones into a contract
Or fuck them, then die
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>>149534863
I believe the ideal order is White > Law > Chaos > Neutral.
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>>149537676
It is. It's also the best ending order.
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>>149537443

Frantically try to get an Egyptian demon to bond with me because I'm an Egyptaboo and it would be a dream come true
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>>149537676
>doing the bad ending that cuts the game short first

why
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PEACE

OR

ANARCHY
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>>149538745
>bad ending
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>>149538805
Anarchy gets me a qt Megami.
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>>149534863

Save before the White ending, choose that, reload, do either Law or Chaos, then do the one you didn't do, then do Neutral.

NG+ is exponentially easier than your first playthrough.
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>>149538846
Shut the fuck up you dumb sharktooth smug cunt I'll slap you
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>>149538967
Shitty advice.
Either he does the White Ending and starts over, then he can choose which to do first Law or Chaos or he does not do the White Ending for whatever stupid reason and has to go Law (I think) first, because Chaos has NG+ content (could be that it's the other way around)
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>>149539152
>bad ending
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>>149539160
>choose White
>save that onto your second file
>reload your first
>don't choose the White on that one
>do all other endings on first save file
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>>149538805
Anarchy because Peace is full of https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZQRmufi5x_4
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>>149539360
>believes the White are right
>hasn't killed himself yet

Explain yourself, poser.
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>>149540478
Because ending myself isn't enough.
I'm still building that reactor.
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>>149539416
Then he has no choice but to do the one without NG+ content. Also not everything on one save file which is probably a big reason why he wants to bother with 100% anyways.

>>149540478
You should seek out a professional if you can't differentiate between reality and fiction.
You also should try using your brain because the Whites aren't just about killing oneself, it's about stopping endless suffering.
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>>149540478
pls don't use best grill for your shitty posts
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>>149540876
pls don't use that grill for ANY posts
>>
So I've only played IV, but that game painted Law and Chaos as both being pretty much Bad Ends. Is that normal for the series, or are there any where Law and Chaos aren't so shitty and have their merits?

I'm normally a raging authoritarian shithead in vidya but Law was a bit much even for me.
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>>149541004
Use her for ejaculation instead.
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>>149541138
Sounds like a personal problem. The neutral ending was shit too. IV and IVF do suck that neuter cock regardless, other games are more bearable and have better Law and Chaos endings in my opinion. But if you really think Neutral was better than Law and Chaos in IV, you're hopeless.
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>>149541358
>implying I didn't do White

Neutral was lame as fuck, though. I'm glad Apocalypse goes beyond that beyond it wasn't really an ending it IV, it was just pushing your problems later on.
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>>149538805
I can't decide
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>>149541138
>Is that normal for the series
No, usually the routes will all be cool or it will be at least debatable whether it was shit or not.

>I'm normally a raging authoritarian shithead in vidya but Law was a bit much even for me.
I'm the opposite of you (raging, edgy chaosfag), but for some cool Law routes I would suggest Devil Survivor (everyone loves that one) and SMT II (which gives you the full crusader experience). A lot of the time these routes will take their ideologies to the very extreme, though, so if you can't get behind that you might be better off just staying Neutral.
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>>149541176
You're disgusting.
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>>149541918
>SMT II (which gives you the full backtracking experience)
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>>149542558
Nah.
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>>149542657
>mfw never found the teleporter in the town area until I was really far into the game
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>>149542558
It's time to leave, my friend.
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>>149517579
Make sure to go full Chaos for your first walkthrough. There are a few cool Case Files you can unlock for NG+.
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>>149542558
>Not getting dank loli pussy
>>
>>149542739
>>149542781
>>149542971
Die unclean ones.
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>>149235634

YOU'RE PeaceDiner? Dude, you are awesome! I blew through your LP in three days (only took that long because I had work) but I truly appreciate it
>>
>>149542657
The backtracking around the middle of the game is obnoxious as fuck but it does lead to one of the coolest plots and some of the best alignment choices on the series, so it kinda makes up for it.

>>149542768
What are you talking about? D-don't tell me there was some magical teleporter on the Center I could have used to cut those stupid revisits to the districts short this whole time. I hate the Factory so much.
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>>149543216
No no, sorry. I just meant I posted the link here.

I don't use SA, but I check LP Archive ever couple weeks or so. If more MT ones get added, I'll link them too.
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QUICK

CLAIM YOUR DEMONFU
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>>149543228
>D-don't tell me there was some magical teleporter on the Center

It's been a while since I played, so I don't remember exactly but, it was in the place you get one of those pillars, the moon pillar I think, in the dance hall.

I didn't find that place until I got stuck looking for the last pillar. Everytime I needed to go there I had to hoof it there manually.
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>>149543909
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>>149543909
I want SMT V on PS4 so bad for those HD demons.
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>>149544417
>want HD demons
>don't want to ever play a JRPG on anything but handhelds again

conflicted
>>
>>149544546
I will never understand this mentality. I find handhelds to be incredibly uncomfortable.
>>
>>149544606
>want to play a game
>options are either sit on the couch for eight hours straight
>or play some during my lunch break, on the bus, wherever I want
>>
>>149544781
>not being a lazy piece of shit and playing portables in bed
>>
>>149544546
Is every single one your posts in this general gonna be about how much you love handhelds?
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>>149544916
No, it'll be about how much I love holding hands.
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>>149545085
Slut.
>>
>>149540478
>>149540876
So, what the fuck are those gray things in her forehead supposed to be, anyway? it looks weird.
>>
>>149546158

Her eyebrows.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hikimayu
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Hoy.
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If you could summon one demon into the real world, who would it be?
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>>149551054
pascal
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>>149551217
>>
>>149542904

If I plan on doing all three anyway does it matter? I like choosing what comes naturally first to see where I land up.
>>
>>149552590
No, just enjoy the damn game
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>>149543909
>>
>>149552590
If you will get Neutral or Law ending, those Case Files will not be available until you clear the game with Chaos ending. Just wanted to give a tip, because I hate it when stuff like that isn't available on your first playthrough.
>>
>>149552769

Roger.

>>149553235

Thanks for the heads up. If I don't end up on Chaos then I'll have to make sure I do it on the second playthrough.
>>
Hoy.
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>playing smt3 on my ps2
>finish diet building
>go back and finish up all the kalpas
>get hype about finishing the game
>go over to amala temple to start up the tower of kagutsuchi
>cutscene leading into the tower freezes at a specific point
>'ok ill just restart my ps2, whatever'
>freezes again when i try to start the cutscene
>unplug everything, clean disk and tray, still freezes
why even live
>>
>>149557676
if you had any friends you could kill them and take their copies

are you pal or ntsc
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>>149558137
NTSC
>having friends, let alone killing them
>>
I'm starting Soul Hackers, is it ok if I play this blindly or will it make the game too hard if I give shitty stats to my MC and Nemissa? By the way I already made Nemissa get zio skills.
>>
>>149559082
go luk
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Man, this fucker was really underwhelming. Belial did his job way better just be having healing.

Raidou 1 was a fun as fuck experience but boy does stuff get trivialized just by having a healing demon.
>>
is a phys build viable in the 3ds version of devil survivor?
I know it was essentially useless late game on the DS but I hear they revamped some of the balancing but not sure what that means
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>>149543909
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>>149543909
>>
>>149516319
>even in Japanese
Well no shit anon. All those high pitched whiny voices drive me insane. A friend of mine insisted on using the Japanese voices in Persona 4 Arena, Rise hurt my ears so fucking bad.
>>
Hoy.
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>>149543909
Cleo is my demonfu.
>>
>>149571115
Won't she eat you alive?
>>
>>149571472
Unf
>>
>>149571619
Not in that way.

I mean, rip out your insides and devour them.
>>
>>149571702
That's pretty hot.
>>
>>
>>149572149
Fucking degenerates
>>
>>149576737
Have you played that game?
>>
>>149574826
dog tits
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>Raidou Kuzunoha Live Action series never ever

Why life is so unfair?
>>
>>149584578
Because Debisama TV exists.
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>>149583754
>>
>>149565104
Yeah, though you're gimping the one party member who will never leave no matter what (Atsuro) by doing so. Phys builds require a Strength/Agility blend to maximize Multistrike's capabilities. Late in game with Phys repel enemies, you have to rely on Holy Strike which is kind of shitty. In 2 it isn't as much of an issue because there's plenty of magic or dual party members, but in OC it's not quite as good. Multistrike actually has a higher damage output than Holy Dance, but Holy Dance is gotten earlier, requires less upkeep because of Drain, and magic MC is more well-rounded.
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>>149586082
>>
>>149586082
>>149586573
whats this da tier trash
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>>149586836
whatever it is, its bad
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>>149586573
>Atma form is just growing wings and getting a sunburn
>>
>>149587125
THE EYES CHANGE TOO DO NUT STUL
>>
>>149587125
I think that was supposed to be the berserk form.
>>
>>149586484
Well alright then
time to dump into Ma
>>
>>149587462
Good job. Crack Drain and Holy Dance as soon as they show up, Holy Dance will be your main damage dealer throughout the entire game. You can dump points in strength up to 8 for Blitzkrieg (boosts all damage by 25%), but it's not worth it to go to 10 for Megidoloan. Just stick with Holy Dance.
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I went full Mag nuke in SMTIV and it trivialized the game. Are phys/gun builds better in Apocalypse?
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Hee Ho
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>>149543909
>>
>>149593591
You have your containment zone
>>
>That feeling when no demon girlfriend
Just kill me
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>>149595239
Cheer up, you're the husband of this half demon chick here.
>>
Hoy.
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>>149595239
>that feeling when no cannibal girlfriend
>>
Hoy.
>>
So when is /smtg/ going to stop being so dead?
>>
>>149602673

When Apocalypse releases
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>>149603182
Why would the re-release of a game everyone here has already played revive the thread?
>>
>>149603624
>re-release
lol
>>
>>149603624
6/10 bait step up senpai
>>
New thread when?
>>
New thread:
>>149604685
>>149604685
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