/smtg/ - 真・女神転生/Shin Megami Tensei General

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Today is the dawn of the new world.

>>148624527
no is sleep now

Hoy.

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Hoy, wake up. It's morning.

I will change this chan.

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>>148629241
>tfw yuropoor
>wake up at the same time as Americans anyway

And now I'm going to go watch the DeSu 2 anime.

Hoy.

What kind of modern world spook demons like Chemtrail in smt4 are we going to see in smt5?
Global warming?
Multiculturalism?

>>148632716
Maybe Monsanto. That shitty GMO OMG movie tried to make them out to be a demon with the out-of-context Haitians (iirc) singing about them.

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>>148632716
Famed/Hero Trump

>>148633159
>GMO OMG movie
wot. I will never understand why people hate GMOs so much. Monsanto is a shitty company but GMOs are alright.

>>148632716
Maybe a free mason or illuminati? Or a Draconian?

>>148632716
Oh wow I just looked it up, I never actually knew what Chemtrail was based on.

That's really stupid.

>>148633993
GMOs in general would be a good demon I suppose, or rather people's irrational fear of them.

>>148634687
People's irrational fear of shit is the foundation for half the demons in the series, and in mythology in general

>>148632716
Santa Claus and the flying spaghetti monster. The more stupid, the better.

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>>148629754
>DeSu 2 anime

But why?

>>148624420
I like Serph.

He definitely represents a gentle and kind member of royalty.

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>>148633993
>>148634687

I think the issue people have with Monsanto is the suspicion that their plants have nasty side effects, like producing pesticides that kill bees, weeds that are resistant to all poisons except Monsanto's, etc. All genuine fears if it's real, but I trust the documentaries about as much as Monsanto. I'd much prefer if it turned out the plants were part of a great demon hivemind.

The actual risk associated with GMO plants is that changing one section of genetic code can have tiny unknown side effects that could prove harmful in the long run. I'm thinking apple seeds with more cyanide in them over time, tomatoes that produce nicotine in the fruit and not just the leaves, so on and so forth.

Freemasons, Illuminati, and Sufis would all be cool narrative additions to have before the apocalypse kicks into gear. Maybe add in some Hare Krishnas and even some SubGeniuses for good measure. I'm pretty sure Ivan Stang, founder of the Church of the Subgenius, lives within walking distance of me.

>>148632716
A social justice warrior zombie and reaction internet faces redrawn by Doi himself.

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>>148635607
>reaction internet faces
Don't give them ideas.

>>148635410
To stare at Fumi's legs

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>>148635410
To be closer to my wife.

>>148623002
SK is Okay.

>>148639629
I only dislike that we have a SK avatarfag for some reason.

>>148635449
>The media
>Bolshevik clowns in government
>One world government
>Moral Majority
it's happening

>>148639712
I like to bully him back with pictures of Kagura.

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>>148639885
Bully?

But it does nothing to me.

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>mfw beating Beldr in Desu OC

Whew, okay. Time for the rest of the game to be easy.

Hoy.

Why does it seem that there is zero hype for Apocalypse? Were people dissapointed by spoilers? Or maybe people are more interested in P5? I've just realized that after Atlus release P5 in September, they will have zero announced games on their schedule.

>>148644862
Looks way too similar to IV/released months ago in Japan.

>>148644862
what's there to discuss now

>>148645190
why Dadgda has a question mark on him

>>148644862
I'm looking forward to it, but it's not too much different from smt 4 and probably 80% of smt players care more about p5.

>>148648924
I don't care about P5 at all. Couldn't even finish P4 and considering how successful that was I'm pretty sure 5 will be more of that.

>>148644862
I'm more excited for EOV than SMTIV:A or P5

>>148648924
I really don't care about P5. Not all that hyped for Apocalypse either though because of the spoilers. I'm willing to bet the people most hyped fled the general to avoid being spoiled.

>>148649337
And they'll probably be disappointed as fuck. You know what to expect at least.

>>148649105
It has handcrafted dungeons, demons as enemies and is bringing back skills from Persona 1/Raidou games so it's looking more promising than SMT IV in a lot of ways.

>tfw there's no reason to roll with a crew of only Egyptian demons because they're all MAG focused healers
>most of them aren't even good

kill me

>>148644862

I'm really excited for it because IV was my first SMT and I just beat it like, last week, so more of that seems great. My only reservations are that a plucky teenager seems like a much worse protagonist than a stoic foreign samurai and that I can't seem to fidn any description of what the routes are, since I know it doesn't have the same Law/Chaos.

Also; is Strnge Journey worth playing if IV was a little tough for me and I care more about story than gameplay?

>>148649105
>>148649337
We're in a smtg specific general though, and if you look at the "general smt community" (aka their shitty subreddit) it's mostly persona shit.

Also, I was avoiding here because of spoilers but I already had a few endgame stuff spoiled by looking up a demon's stats for smt4 in the wiki, so here I am.

>>148648924

I've literally never played a Persona game before and I'm hype for P5 based almost exclusively on how good the soundtrack seems.

>>148649973
Strange Journey's story is fine. Much different setting than any other Megaten, and arguably much better alignment representatives than Walter and Jonathan. Bosses are really memorable too.

Keep in mind it has actual dungeons compared to SMT IV's shitty Persona hallways, and the battle system is weirder so you might have quite a tough time. But definitely try.

>>148649973
>I can't seem to fidn any description of what the routes are, since I know it doesn't have the same Law/Chaos
Do you mean how the ending cutscenes play out or what you actually do as the player? Because if it's the cutscenes and actual results Law/Chaos are basically the same as IV's with minor revisions.

Also SJ is great. Second favorite to IV, only really brought down by its shitty battle system and demon source mechanic if you ask me. Dungeons are way better than IV's hallways.

>>148650590

Is the whole Anarchy/Peace thing an alignment like Law/Chaos was in IV, or is it just a choice you make?

>>148651087
All routes are basically determined by a choice to roll with the demonic rep or not. Rejecting each one either puts you on Danu's or Dagda's. Forget which.

>>148651506

So you don't need to keep track of your stupid points again?

>>148651870
Not unless you care about a minor extra challenge for the main routes. I get that a lot of you like that you don't need to worry about fucking up, but this also means most of your choices don't really matter. To me that's a pretty big bummer.

>>148652128
My problem with IV system is that it assumes too much about your character based on those choices.
Why does being polite,kind and merciful means that I want to go commit a genocide based on nothing but a say-so of some arrogant angel? Why does being a ruthless asshole means I want to join my enemy and burn down my hometown for no reason?
Your personality does not define your beliefs or what you believe is right.

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>>148652128

From a design standpoint, I'd prefer that every decision came with a benefit and a drawback, in the short term and long term. Help one faction out and get an exclusive weapon right off the bat, then towards the end game get a different event with the faction you helped or get attacked by the guys you pissed off. The alignment system is OK, but Ogre Battle 64 did it a little better where certain allies would only join you permanently if you were above or below a certain alignment value at key events.

I hate getting locked out of shit though, or having events that disappear after a certain point. I'd really like to be able to go back and explore for stuff I missed. I'm looking at you, Arc the Lad I and your bullshit requirements for getting the infinite MP item.

>play DDS
>stellar visuals and worldbuilding but literally everything else was given absolute bare minimum effort
Is it worth completing DDS2 or should I just move onto something else?

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>>148652887
This is so true.

SMTIV was my fist mainline game, and I didn't really know anything about alignments and such, and just played it like I would any other JRPG, being super kind to everyone, helping people out and generally just being a massive moralfag.

Of course I ended up on the Law route.

>mfw

>>148652887
While that's true, it pisses me off that instead of actually trying to address the flaws of the alignment system, they scrapped it entirely. I'd take a poorly thought out system of consequences over none at all.

>>148652892
>I hate getting locked out of shit though, or having events that disappear after a certain point.
I don't mind it if there's some kind of warning and the window for getting the content isn't too small.

>>148653618
I don't usually recomend games just for the story but it's a wild ride. Also the gameplay is good and there are some of the best bosses in the frachise so...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lhqo6yTOg4U

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>>148656079
>says Shin Megami Tensei properly

That's cool, man.

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Any news on Devil Summoner translation patch?

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I am an angelic bringer of victory!

Anyone else watching Catherine at EVO?

>tfw no game where Law isn't retarded

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>>148661040

Stream link right now, Mister.

>>148661040
I thought it wasn't at EVO this year?

>>148660995
>Hello I am the best Persona girl.jpg

>>148661151
ghoul02 on twitch.

Is there a complete list of all the demons in Final?

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>>148661196

KirbyLover69 Vs. Reset up next. That last match ended pretty fast and with some goofy screwups.

>kinda want to try out Nocturne
>but have hardcore RPG fatigue after beating SMTIV
>don't want to burn myself out before Apocalypse comes out

help

>>148653618
What do you mean by bare minimum effort?

>>148661995
Check the wiki.

>>148662359
how long did it take you to play IV

>>148662751

30 hours?

>>148663303
not in game time

>>148662661
can't find a list.

>>148661102
DeSuO?

>>148663759

A little more than a month?

>>148664726
Don't play Nocturne

>>148662414
As of DDS1: one-dimensional characters, elementary puzzles, minimal dialogue, lazy soundtrack (subjective), standard fare combat, copious plot devices. The battle royale and castle segments were especially trite, unless the latter was intentionally some Silent Hill homage or what have you.

They aren't heinous crimes per se but in conjunction they come off as lazy and plastic.

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>>148661196
Oh snap, I thought it wasn't gonna be there this year.

It's the only reason I care about EVO.

>>148665120
>lazy soundtrack

nigga I'll fucking kill you

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=TB_Al8lCKKE
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=AFhXPvElNZ0

>>148665390
You addressed the only part of my post that was marked as wholly subjective.

At the risk of being reductionist... woohoo, electric guitars.

Yo what the fuck is with Joe's stats, Io has more STR than him right now

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So, I'm going through SMTIV, and this is my first SMT ever, I'm from /feg/, here's the thing though: I just learned of pic related. Is this a sequel or something?

>>148666742
Yeah, it's a sequel

>>148665120
I'll agree that the dungeon design and puzzles could have been more complex, but that's the only problem I have with DDS.

>>148666742
Kind of. Spin-off story based on >one< of the game's endings.

>>148666742

You play a different character at the same time IV takes place with a plot that runs alongside one of the possible endings

>>148666647
Joe's a MA/AG focused character. basically a speedy glass cannon. Slap him with Drain or Phy Resist/Null and a powerful magic and he destroys everything.

>>148667748
Is it worth getting? I'm in Shinjuku right now in IV and just met a girl named Hiraku, I'm having fun with it, but the plot's not that great, least to me.

>>148653618
Honestly, DDS2 kinda plunges in quality around 2 thirds in and the whole ending feels rushed and non satisfying at all. The bosses and stuff is excellent though.

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>>148667953
Which is weird because of that picture of Joe Multi-hitting Yamato.

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>>148665120
>lazy soundtrack
True, it's subjective as fuck but there's some really nice and catchy tunes in the OST. Maybe you just don't like it but "lazy" is inaccurate.

>>148668105
The only thing rushed about the ending is that it gets you hyped and then says its time for a 6 hour dungeon if you want the ending.

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>>148668302
To be fair, Joe has great AG so Multi Hit kinda works with him.

>>148668358
And then gives a fucking "lol morals and peace" ending that's 3 minutes long. It was really disappointing. Starting with Heat's death the writing goes down hill and it really feels like they were pressured to shit it out as fast as they could. The whole ride is legit fucking crazy and memorable but the writing and pacing itself is meh.

>>148668016

Things are about to get really fucking crazy.

If you like the gameplay, it's more of that but better with an arguably worse story. IV was my first game in the franchise and I'm excited for Apocalypse.

>>148668761
>Things are about to get really fucking crazy
How crazy are we talking?

>>148668923

Jumping into alternate timelines, reincarnation, Lucifer and the Archangels showing up.

>>148669042
>Lucifer
Wat. I mean, I knew Demons were in this game, obviously, but I didn't expect fucking Satan himself to be in this.

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>>148669250

>>148669250
>Satan

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>>148669501

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>>148669664

We had a great discussion about this a few threads back. Satan is supposed to be God's helper angel that exists to tempt men, like Job. A different text suggests that Mastema was the angel in this case as well. Lucifer is a more modern invention and is largely a mistranslation of a some Persian or Babylonian king. There's a lot more to it but Lucifer, Satan, and Beelzebub are all supposed to be very separate entities.

By the way, Pascal the Dog is here.

>>148670357
>Using uTorrent
>2016
I shiggy diggy

>>148670357
Who is Pascal?

>>148670484
Blaise Pascal was a French mathematician, physicist, inventor, writer and Christian philosopher. He was a child prodigy who was educated by his father, a tax collector in Rouen. Pascal's earliest work was in the natural and applied sciences where he made important contributions to the study of fluids, and clarified the concepts of pressure and vacuum by generalizing the work of Evangelista Torricelli. Pascal also wrote in defense of the scientific method.

>>148670471
The cap is from 2013 anon. Look at the lower right corner, stupid.

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Just added some bucks to my PSN wallet, now I just need to wait for an Atlus sale...

>>148665120
You come off as lazy and plastic

How is SJ best emulated? Keyboard, controller, touchscreen?

>>148671483
Whatever way is most comfortable for you.

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>>148671483

I personally recommend original hardware for everything, but that's just me. I think it'd be great if it got a Wii U release like other games have been getting, even if it might look a little ugly.

>>148672636
This. I can hardly manage to stay focused if I emulate on a PC but if I use real hardware or a an emulator on the PSP it's a completely different story.

>>148673793
I feel like I would've enjoyed SJ much more if I had played it on a DS.

It's long slog, and sitting at my desk with a controller was not the most comfy way to play it. But I had no other way to play.

>>148674287

But a DS is like $40 at Gamestop, and a 2DS is like $60

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SMT: Q when

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>>148674854
A pre-owned 2DS at my local gamestop is about €110, the game would cost me about €30-40.

Nigga ain't got the money for this shit.

>>148675574
A used DS runs for about 20-30 dollars and a flashcart like.. 5-8 bucks

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>>148674854

I love the 2DS form factor, but wish it had stereo support. I can sorta live without the 3D slider.

>>148675574
It might actually be cheaper to import some hardware, then. I'm sure with some proper verification and negotiation someone here could hook you up. I wouldn't mind.

>>148675574
Last time I heard about someone using a flash cart with SJ they said the game froze every time they got near the end of the game.

>realize Soul Hackers 3DS was actually SMT Go all along
>realize the play coin system caps at 1k steps per day
>realize there is homebrew to disable the cap
>realize my 3DS already updated itself to v11
>realize my only option is to shell out 50 bucks for freakyforms or constantly reset the date on my 3DS while walking, negating the benefit of not looking like a sperg in public

Just fucking end me already. There's no hope for this left, is there..?

>>148681924
>He didn't hack his 3DS
I feel pity for you my man
Only downside is not being able to play SMT1 on the go on my 3DSXL

>>148681924
>>realize Soul Hackers 3DS was actually SMT Go all along
how high are you nigga

>>148682172
If you play with only Nemechi demons, SH is basically just a single player PGo. No awkward shuffling around staring at your phone shit and no poorly coded MMO features, but I call that an improvement.

P2EP translation when?

>>148686102
in the year 2000

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>>148668302
I FUCKING KNEW THERE WOULD BE A TIME FOR ME TO POST THIS ONE DAY

WHAT'S YOUR FAVORITE GAME IN THE FRANCHISE

>>148688241
Close tie between Debisama and SMT 3

>>148688241
Card Summoner

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Not exactly SMT but I've been trying to play the japanese version of Maken X on Dreamcast and the voices glitch out of existence at the very beginning.
Anyone know what's going on with that?

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>>148660995
>>148661194
My fellows of African American descent.

>>148689193
>you wll never be that jack frost

I END IT THUS

>>148688784
are you playing on actual hardware? dreamcast lasers are very sensitive

>>148689713
I'm emulating it

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Would you worship a literal manlet?

>>148690239
He's like 15

>>148690239

Nanashi is in the middle of puberty and is Asian. How big do you expect him to be?

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>>148689871

I think I found your problem, kohai. Put a mod chip in a Dreamcast or even just use a burned copy with region swapped.

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>>148690356
This big at least. Most of the men are full-grown in their 16s anyway.

I need a rip of the hee ho sound to use as ringtone, does anyone have a link? Google isnt helping.

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>>148690551
Literally perfection. How any other protagonist can even compete?

>>148678173
And people calling this game non-SJW.....

>>148690385
What?

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This isn't good

>>148690934
What did Isabeau mean by this?

>>148692179
She saw Flynn's megacock

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>>148692227

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>>148691862

Dreamcast emulation is far from perfect. You're going to run into weird things like glitched voices here and there. Stuff like that will be worse if the ISO is damaged in any way too. Dreamcasts are pretty cheap and the mod chips are easy to install. Of course, you can always play the US version with the awkward dub and censorship. If you can get a burnable copy of the game too all you have to do is apply a region mod to the ISO before you burn it. All routes are pretty easy overall even for beginners with a little bit of help. Dreamcasts output VGA (analog, not digital, so be warned if you can only run DVI-D or HDMI) natively, and RGB SCART, composite video, and S-Video as acceptable outputs.

Of course, I understand if you're operating on a budget or can't accommodate the correct monitor or space for another console. I only say to get the hee-hell out in jest.

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>>148693142
Well alright, I'll see what I can do. I can get a Dreamcast, I just need to actually look for the game then. Thanks, anon.

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>>148694198

No problem. Brand new US Maken X is $20 on eBay, Japanese new is $25. So getting an actual copy is pretty easy. I Googled around for the ISO and is 667 MB, which should fit on a 700 MB CD-ROM if you want to go that route.

Anyone got a link to IMAGINE's soundtrack?

The one on the pastebin is down.

>>148695293
Here's the link to the thread it's in: http://megatenonline.proboards.com/thread/456/shin-megami-tensei-imagine-soundtrack

>>148696525
Thanks, buddy.

>>148699352
Now give me 500 macca and a Life Stone.

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>>148699715
Take two Life Stones, ain't giving you a single macca.

>>148699715
>[end talks]

>>148699935
>>148699959
Mudo

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>>148700538
>Miss

Hoy.

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>>148703637

>>148690239
Of course anon. He can make himself a giant and /fit/ because he's God now.

Praise Nanashi.

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>>148635449
>tomatoes that produce nicotine in the fruit

>>148661192
According to Woolie, it was never at EVO!

Does Nocturne have a good story?

If not, which SMT has the best?

>>148688241
SMT1. Been meaning to replay MT2 though - never beat it the first time around, seems like it could beat it out.

>>148694618
for the record, the ISO is fucked I'm pretty sure. if it's the one that I'm thinking of, was a really shittily done compression job where they cut out a lot of music and audio. it's better to just purchase the game though it's not all that great anyways

>>148711106
Nocturne barely has a story at all, and you aren't going to find a compelling plot in any SMT game. Play something like Digital Devil Saga or Persona if you want that.

>>148711106
probably not in the sense you're thinking

SMT's more about the journey and experience. The stories are heavily gamified and focused around the actions that you take as you progress through and explore a world. There's a lot of backstory and other characters, but it relies heavily on player input and imagination to fill in blanks. Especially 1 and Nocturne.

Basically, they're role playing games in a more literal sense than people who ask about "good stories" are use to. Think more along the lines of how Dragon Quest stories play out, just more fucked up and with decisions.

That aside, I think 1 and 3 have very very good stories. 4's story is pretty aight but a bit bland at times and rushed to hell towards the end, 2's varies between genius and dogshit constantly. 1 and 3 are more about story through experience as I discussed earlier, 2 and 4 have heavier narratives. If you want a more typical JRPG story experience, the Devil Summoner, Devil Survivor, and Digital Devil Saga games are all pretty decent. I personally think Devil Survivor 1 or Soul Hackers are your best bets for that, but a lot of people really dig Digital Devil Saga.

>>148714339
SMT 3's story concept is fantastic, practically the opposite of what you expect of a JRPG. But there's very little actually there. It's still enjoyable though.

>>148714578
Yeah, I always find it really weird to talk about SMT3's story being "good" or whatever for that reason. Trying to classify it like that really brings out how subjective any basis for "objective" criteria of a good story is. I think it's excellent because it provides a fantastic experience - enough backstory to leave you constantly thinking about it as you play but subtle enough to let the worldbuilding do a lot of the work - but I know some people expect a good story to contain more in the way of twists, growth, and general presence.

One more god what?

>>148715593
danced crazy

what are the changes that were made for sj when it came to america? i rememebr seeing a screnshot around /v/ but i hope someone have it here i forgot to save it

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>>148715593
Having new humanity babies

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>>148715593
Pegging.

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>>148717558
Seraph and Heat have penises.

What's the difference between Overclocked Law and DeSu Law? Is Overclocked the only Law route in the series that isn't "but muh free will?"

Is Catherine /smtg/ or /pg/ material?

>>148718632
Humans aren't being genocided by the billions. Humans aren't being mass brainwashed and enslaved.
Humans coexisting with demons one day maybe.

Persona 4 x The Thing

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>>148660995
>>148661194
>>148689193
I'm always surprised by how many Erikofags there are in /smtg/.

Hoy.

>>148721615
Never played Persona, but, she seems like a nice gal.

Hoy.

Hoy.

Hoy is a shit meme from a shit game.

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>>148722909
>>148724484
>>148728084
Hoy.

>>148728105
IV is great though.

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>>148728226
>IV is great

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Hoy, wake up. It's morning.

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>>148728386
>2016
>still living the SMT IV is bad meme
I'm so sorry for you.

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>>148730716
>I'm so sorry for you.
>not saying I PITY YOU!

>>148730716
No, the game sucks shit. The only redeeming quality is the OST. Stop with the SMT IV is good meme.

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>>148730825
Fuck. A wasted opportunity indeed.

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>>148730938
>excellent atmosphere
>excellent aesthetics
>perfect OST
>fun even if broken gameplay
I agree that the lesser parts of IV are kinda meh but the whole package is great, anon. But even so, all the SMT games great so there's that.

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>>148731121
>fun even if broken gameplay
Every single time I point out how awful IV's gameplay is you faggots reply with the same 'but it's fun!" shit. No, fuck you, it's not.
Also excellent aesthetics my ass, all the new demon designs look like shit. I'll give you Tokyo/Mikado though.

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>>148731375
Yeah, IV is fucking fun. It's good AND fun though. The partner mechanic and the lack of VI stat kinda sucks yeah, but it's still easily the best JRPG released on the 3DS for instance.

>Also excellent aesthetics my ass, all the new demon designs look like shit.
I meant the overall world aesthetics, not the god ugly Kamen Raider demons. But even then there's a couple of nice new designs among them, like Minotaur, Napaea or Koga Saburo.

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>>148731604
>The partner mechanic and the lack of VI stat kinda sucks yeah
And the P4G fusion.
And the HP/MP balance in demons that makes all the MAG-oriented demons useless because every enemy hits like a truck/no VIT.
And Smirk.
And constant ambushes thanks to enemy sprites spawning right below Flynn's feet.
IV is not fun. SMT I and II are more entertaining and less frustrating than IV. Cease this meme at once.

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>>148731884
But I love all the mainline SMTs, anon. I thought they were all great. I and II are very rudimentary and with a hugely high encounter rate and Nocturne is full of flaws and barely a mainline in terms of plot and I still love them anyway. I'm not saying IV doesn't have flaws, I'm just saying it's excellent even with the flaws.

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>>148732121
I hate you.

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>>148732241
As long as you're a /smtg/ poster, I love you anon.

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>>148732336

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>>148732540
I love you, anon. Really, I do.

>>148644862
I already had my hype rush back in its original release.

Now I just want to play it.

>>148719354
It has themes that could fit both places.

>come back to Persona 2 after a year
>every other line is Mayan jargon mumbo jumbo
Lak'ech crawling chaos inspirational text

>>148731884
>And the P4G fusion.
How could this be a major flaw for anyone? It removed the demons' uniqueness, yeah, but it is miles better than rolling skills in a fusion chamber for hours, or just plain losing 80% or all the skills from your previous demons.

And I'm ok with those systems as well, but being able to pick the exact skills you want is a god-send and very fun if you aim to make specific builds.

>And constant ambushes thanks to enemy sprites spawning right below Flynn's feet.
Constant is kind of an overstatement. And enemy ambushes are not exclusive to IV.

I was playing DDS1 and fought a boss. As soon as I defeated the boss and Cielo joined my party I checked Cielo's status and the game froze. Time to redo the boss battle and rewatch like 5 cutscenes, I'm so mad.

>>148729707
Sorry, but I want Isabeau or Jonathan to wake me up.

>>148735215
It really did remove the uniqueness of demons but Final kinda fixed that with element affinities.

>>148735453
You playing on a PS2? The same thing happened to me. And you can skip the cutscenes in case you don't know.

>>148736493
Yeah i'm playing on a PS2. And some of the cutscenes couldn't be skipped because there were choices to make at some points.

Hoy.

>>148740083
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E1wcuoxs4mU

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Fuwah

>>148719354
catherine is /fgg/
>>148722909
persona 1's a legitimately very good game when you adjust to some janky combat stuff. i'd recommend giving it a shot with the original music patch.

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>>148747274
>Not posting Nagi

I went magic in DeSu2 did I make a mistake

>>148749264

Both phys and mag are viable in DeSu 2. Don't worry, just dance your way to victory

>>148688241
MT 2 by far

>>148635449
My issue with Monsanto is simply that farmers are not allowed to reuse the Monsanto seeds that are produced by their plants.

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I'm playing Eternal Punishment. Just got in GOLD. It's quite hard and xp rewards are low. Should I keep grinding or just stack medicine and Snuff soul and advance?

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>>148742728
Persona is a criminally underrated game. I played through both the SEBEC and Snow Queen routes (by the way, just think about how amazing that is: a game that is already pretty long having an entire, 20+ hours alternate route with it's own story, dungeons, bosses, music and cutscenes; this kind of thing sounds unthinkable nowadays) for the first time fairly recently and I want to play it again already. The story is a wild ride and the psychological emphasis is genuinely interesting (and sometimes unsetling, especially if you consider the original soundtrack), it has a rather lovable cast of characters and the atmosphere is pretty unique. I agree about the combat being kinda janky, but I still think it was done better than in SMT I and II (I can't speak for If), which are the rpg Megaten games that were out at the time, and it does hold the honor of having the most satisfying guns in the series. It is kind of turning into my favorite Megaten over time.

Thread theme: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gJv8fd-U_tA

>>148753920
GOLD's boss is this game's casual filter, IMO. I believe that rather than grinding XP you should go to the Velvet Room and get yourself a new set of Personas (but whatever you do, don't get rid of Maya's persona, as she is still is useful and can mutate into a really useful persona if you portray her as a compassionate person) and go raise their ranks in the dungeon. Try to think of a setup that would allow you to beat the boss more easily by exploiting her weakness with fusion spells. The next dungeons are much more manageable because you will have more than 3 characters with you.

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>>148755667
Just realized that I am a huge retard and forgot about MT I and II in this post, so ignore that.

Hoy?

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>finish Raidou 1 and start on Raidou 2
>don't like the new combat

M-maybe I just don't like change.

In the previous thread, a faggot spoiled me the end of Persona 4 by telling who the killer was.
Seriously, is all the fun spoiled to me ? Since then I don't feel like playing the game anymore since the major plot question is already answered...

>>148764948
I'm pretty sure P4's appeal comes from getting to know the cast, not the mystery

>>148764948
Same here man, Persona 4 is already pretty mediocre to begin with but I totally lost interest after finding out that Nanako was the killer the whole time.

>>148764948
>playing p4 in the first place

YOU DESERVE IT

>>148767078
That's my first game of the series and I've been it was a good entry to it...
I enjoyed it so far but damn, that spoiler hit me hard. I usually don't give a fuck but this one reamlly made me rage. To think people would still do that kind of things.

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>>148764948
P4's story is already mediocre anyway. The killer barely interests in the great schemes of things though because he's not the "real" killer.

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>>148767461
Spoiling P4 has become kind of a meme at this point.

All is I can really say is that there's a little more to the mystery than what you've probably heard, but it's up to you if you're enjoying the game enough to keep going anyway.

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Started Debisama PSP on Hard right now, and holy shit is demon negotiation advanced compared to SFC games. By the way, does anyone happen to know if it's possible to improve the quility of the music in PPSSPP, or is it supposed to sound like this on real hardware too?
http://vocaroo.com/i/s0BU8vgkutU2

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>>148767995
Oh shit, forgot to spoiler the pic. My bad.

>>148767995
>>148767995
Iznaami is cute! Cute!

Marie isn't.

Also P4 is the Diamond is Unbreakable and Scooby Doo of Persona games

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>>148768303
Oh my fuck, he really is Mexican Junpei

>>148768384
>Marie isn't
How's that shit taste work for you, anon?

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>>148768384
I'll be honest here, I love Marie's outfit but it fucking clashes with the entire rest of the game. Also her personality an absolute shit too.

>>148768597
Marie a shit, m8.

>>148768239
>>148767995
All right, I'll keep playing it to see if my interest will get back. Wich one should I play after this one ? I really want to get into the series enough to enjoy P5

>>148768384
> Diamond is Unbreakable
I don't know what you mean but I fucking loved DIU. And that's the feeling I had trough the game. It made me think constantly about it. That's why I was disapointed by the end being spoiled to me.

>>148768384
I"ll never understand the "P4 is Scooby Doo" meme. Where does it come from? Is it because it's light hearted compared to most megaten games?

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>>148768384
Except that Diamond is Not Crash is actually good.

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>>148768787
Depends. If you want an actual good story go with P2. If you a more SMT Persona with actual good gameplay go with P1. If you want more of P4's Social Links and gameplay go with P3.

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>>148768787
If you can't get into it just play P3, it's better anyway.

>>148768843
A bunch of nerdy kids solve mysteries with a talking animal and unmask the villain.

There was even that cartoon a few years back of Scooby Doo where they tried to solve the mysteries of things, Scooby Doo and other talking animals are descended from transdimensional Ayy Lmao, and a evil Parrot becomes Parrot Cthulhu.

>>148769151
I thought it was really common to have stories like that, like magical girls stories for example, so I never thought about Scooby Doo in particular while playing p4. I immediaty thought about Yu Yu Hakusho because at the time I didn't read or watch Jojo yet.
>Scooby Doo and other talking animals are descended from transdimensional Ayy Lmao, and a evil Parrot becomes Parrot Cthulhu.
What the fuck did I just read?

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>>148770841
>spoilers
I think you might like P1 and P2, actually, as they kinda have that 90's anime feel to them. Innocent Sin in particular starts with you being challenged to a fight by a goofy delinquent kid from another school, shit has Yu Yu Hakusho written all over it.

Persona 3 might be easier to get into, though, so you could start there if you want.

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>>148770841
The whole deal is that they're a gang of teenagers who solve mysteries and have a talking mascot.

The meme is nothing deeper than that.

>>148771525
You must think I'm that anon who is starting megaten with p4 but I'm not, I should have mentionned that, sorry. I really liked Innocent Sin, it was fun for the story alone. The gameplay was good too, to bad each battles take so much time to end. I'll try to play Eternal Punishment someday once I get a NA PSN account.

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>>148770841

Mystery Inc was a wild ride.

>>148770841
Cthulhu has been turning talking animals evil and murdering mystery gangs for thousands of years.

Yu Yu Hakusho never came to mind to be honest. Would be cool to see a Persona game as messed up Hunter x Hunter's world.

Also that time Scooby and Shaggy let the demons out and had to seal them away.

>>148772980
>Cthulhu has been turning talking animals evil and murdering mystery gangs for thousands of years.
>Also that time Scooby and Shaggy let the demons out and had to seal them away
That sounds more like a Persona game than P4, actually.

I'm sure you guys have gotten a lot of this already, but how does Tokyo Mirage Sessions stack up against the Persona games

>>148776454
>no Social Links
>better gameplay implying this is a feat
Basically, doesn't interest at all 99% of the Personafags.

>>148779826
I don't care about social links, but are the characters interesting?

>>148780108
About as interesting as a Persona game. Literal walking anime tropes. Stay for the gameplay or don't even touch it to be honest since it's damn good in that regard.

>>148730938
>Stop with the SMT IV is good meme.

The Strange Journey is good meme must stop first.

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>>148781787
But both are great games though.

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Threadly reminder that Garu is just a meme Zan.

>>148781787
The only meme that needs to stop is that #FE discussion should happen here.
Even if you think it's MegaTen, no one actually wants one of /feg/'s most cancerous tripfags to start posting here, right?

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>>148785318
>The only meme that needs to stop is that #FE discussion should happen here.
Even though I was the one who replied to him, I fully agree with this. /feg/ already took in the 3 or 4 people that actually like #FE so there's no point in posting here.

>/feg/'s most cancerous tripfags to start posting here, right?
Holy fuck, no. Please, no.

>>148785318
That won't happen since they already have their own general

>>148786093
It dies before 200 posts regularly. They were even discussing where to go when it dies for good.

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>>148786251
Poor them, nobody wants to house their discussion

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I love the Demonic Compendium in this game.

>>148787798
Sometimes I wonder if /pg/ would take us back if we died, or the other way around if that somehow happened.

>>148787981
I can get why we aren't MegaTen general and why we split, but sometimes it seems foolish.

>>148786251
That is unfortunate. No one wants to discuss it and their general dies pretty fast.

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>>148787981
No way either could coexist. Whoever's general died first would be the utter laughing stock and fuel for memes and bait for years and years. We'd go the way of /jrpgg/

>>148788267
>but sometimes it seems foolish.
Nah, we wouldn't be able to discuss anything other than P3 and up otherwise.

>>148788493
We talk about Persona sometimes. I find it hard that they don't talk about other MegaTen titles. I haven't been there so I wouldn't know. Is it really as bad as we make it out to be?

>>148788889
>I find it hard that they don't talk about other MegaTen titles.
Because they dont play other MegaTen games.

>>148788889
We do, but imagine all those people who don't give a fuck about anything other than those games coming here. Discussion would get difficult.

>>148789105
>>148789279
Good points, well made.

What games are you playing right now?

>>148791526
Strange Journey, Ghost Trick, Hotel Dusk

>>148791526
7th Dragon III and SMT IV at the same time.

>>148791526
Atelier Sophie

>>148791526
7th dragon 2020 and Soul Hackers

>>148791526
Devil Survivor 2 Record Breaker and Monster Hunter Generations. Oh, and Fire Emblem Fates.

>>148791526
Devil Summoner and Spiral Nemesis

>>148788267
I don't really think it's that unfortunate.
It is only one single player game. You can only talk about the same features, strategies, characters and story so many times before it gets stale.

Over time I wouldn't mind if this place accepts #FE discussion, but it is still gonna be very niche since it's exclusive to a dying console.

>>148791526
Raidou 2 and P3P

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>>148791526
SMT1, 999, The Last of Us

SMT1 is pretty good so far. 999 pissed me off since I got 3 bad endings in a row, but is still good. The Last of Us is kinda boring.

Is Hitoshura really the strongest, or can he fall to a smiling man?

>>148795110
>999 pissed me off since I got 3 bad endings in a row,
Yeah well What are you doing hovering over spoilers when 999 is mentioned.
I only find the muliplayer aspect of the Last of Us any good.

>>148793432
I suppose so.

>>148796085
His data got reckt by Serph and his buddies. Maybe that counts.

Also while Demi-Fiend and his pierce are formidable threats, smiling man can learn much more devastating spells.

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What emulators would you recommend for playing SMT I and II. I finished IV a few months ago and I heard some pretty good things about I and II from lurking here.

>>148798542
snes9xd3d for SFC versions, epsxe170 for PS versions.

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>>148791526
Final Fantasy XII, blind
145 hours, and no one is level 70 yet. And I just cleared Draklor Lab.

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>>148798542

That picture looks awesome, but the bottom half is probably what Cleveland is going to turn into by the end of the week. I'm a little scared, /smtg/. Hold me.

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CHOOSE
YOUR
CHARACTER

>>148797749
>What are you doing hovering over spoilers when 999 is mentioned.
Curiosity go the better of me.

Also do I need to play Virtue's Last Reward before I play Zero Time Dilemma? Am poorfag so I don't have a 3ds or vita.

>>148801579
>do I need to play Virtue's Last Reward before I play Zero Time Dilemma?
Yes.

>>148801579
It is highly recommended that you should. Is it not on steam? Or is it just Zero Time Dilemma?

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>>148797819
It did take the whole DDS party to beat him, though. Maybe Seraph would be more on par with him.

>>148801125
>no Craaazaay man

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>>148800969
Demons are spawning in Cleveland?

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>>148801125
Duel man

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>>148801809
>>148801867
Damn I guess I'll have to wait for the PC port then, thanks.

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>>148802265

Republican National Convention with the very high possibility of the formal nomination of Donald Trump as future candidate for Imperial America. Just saying, the protests and Republican blood orgies might get a little intense.

>>148802564
2DS are pretty cheap and there is the foolproof modding scene if you really can't afford anymore.

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>>148802665
Ah yes that. I haven't kept with it because I dislike Hilary and Trump as human beings.

>>148797819
Smiling man?

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>>148802265
>Mpreg
>image.jpg

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>>148803265
I was thinking about buying a 2ds since I really want to play SMT IV, Soul Hackers, and a few others. I guess I might as well buy one.

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>>148803471

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>>148803798

The form factor is really nice on those. Get some good headphones if you want stereo sound.

>>148803310

Yeah, best I can do is chug along at work and watch the city burn at night. Glad I live and work east of the whole fiasco. If this madness spills over into the weekend though I am going to be pissed. Nothing is going to stop me from going to the Classic Console and Arcade Gaming Show. I've got weird classic hardware to track down.

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If pair, Persona 2 Eternal Punishment.
If odd, Devil Survivor 2
If dubs, Kyuuyaku Megami Tensei

>>148803798
2DS is the best handheld console ever made. I actually upgraded to a New 3DS and I kind of wish I hadn't. I still have the 2DS but I feel stupid using it since I spent $200 on a new one...

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>>148803924
Oh yeah, forgot.

>>148803741
Nips love them some fertile Hallelujah. Even though we have perfectly good chance for fairy booty or the dog Asahi. But nope no art.

Still not as weird as the pic I saw of Hallelujah with six nipples.

>>148806470
Is it at least slightly better than the 2ds? I heard some games ran way better on the new 3ds. Is there anything better besides performance?

Anyone got the pic of everyone smirking?

>>148811454
yeah

>>148812704
Post it then. I need it to prove a point.

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>>148811454

>>148814329
You fool. You shoulda asked for items or macca or at least asked a question.

>>148814429
Fucking demons.
We need a wall.
As a matter of fact, go build it anon.

>>148814708
I might.

Make it worth my while.

>>148815206
I'll give you a fucking do it or I start smiling.

>>148815482
Goodbye.

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>>148809996
MH4U loads way faster. Apparently Majora's does too, but I didn't play it yet. It's also the only way to play Xenoblade

How could I play SMT 1&2 on o3DS?
Or is ZSNES the only option?

Is there some easier way to make money on KMT 2 than grinding? Gear is so expensive and killing demons doesn't seem to give me much. I just killed Pazuzu and Mammon if that matters.

Are there any games where Law and Chaos aren't both retarded?

>>148820224
Strange Journey.

>>148820224
Desu OC

>>148820224
But then what's the point? That's like asking for more Apocalypse paths.

>>148820474
There should have been proper polytheist and white paths. Prove me wrong.

>>148820224
DDS, because everything is already so fucked there is no other option. No routes though.

>>148820443

Law in SJ is hilariously evil though