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braixen
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xrd is shit
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Is Jam good for a beginner?
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http://www.redbull.com/us/en/esports/stories/1331806900181/king-of-fighters-xiv-the-evo-event-you-didn-t-see

>35 days
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can anyone explain why sometimes i'm in range of cr mp after a sonic boom and sometimes i'm not? i always start the loop on top of the dummy
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I like to imagine that Dizzy gets too excited during sex and accidentally hits Ky in the face with her tail while he's going at it from behind
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I knew the "we hate GG" meme was a meme
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>>148913374
Sure thing goober keep telling yourself that
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>>148913164
that's not very subtle

>>148913374
people do hate guilty gear and the losers that play it. people can still masturbate to the waifus, though.
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>>148913521
can i come over and look at this pictures with you?
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>>148913374
i wanted to like gg but then they nerfed sin and left shit like zato and millia

arcsys is incompetent like capcom
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>We're all looking at character types and uniqueness, as well as fan favorites

>SFV still has no rekka character
>popular
>progressive for retaining the stunning and brave transgirl character
Get ready to take the Poison fags
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>>148913662
uh anon..
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>>148913717
>SFV still has no rekka character
uhh karin????????
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Is KOFXIV's collector's edition NA exclusive?
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>>148913374
I bought GGxrd for $60 at release but was disappointed when it turned out it was just a meme game and all future expansions would be $60 too, so i haven't touched revelator. I'll buy the final version when it cheap (and dead)
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>>148913778
Vtrigger doesn't count nigga
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>>148913374
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>>148913717
Poison will come back.

As Hugo's V-Skill.
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>>148913662
Are you implying you lose to zato and millia? Both are VERY tough characters which you will never see online hell theres literally under 50 people in the US that can play those guys to half their potential.
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When are the twins? Or at least yang
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>>148913164
>>148913224
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>>148913717
>We're all looking at character types and uniqueness, as well as fan favorites
Ingrid was already confirmed but this is just to make sure it's publically obvious.
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>>148913901
can i come over and look at these pictures with you?
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>>148913717
Based SJWs
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>>148913892
they're not fun to watch and zato tryhards are not that uncommon
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>>148913778
Karin's as much a rekka as Ibuki is a grappler.

>>148913913
Fuck Ingrid.
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>>148913897
why are you so fucking obsesseds with gorilla characters.
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How do I play Dizzy?
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anyone psn games
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>>148914031
Name one gorila character i play.

i know its you indulgeme
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>>148914010
If watching a good millia or zato isnt fun i guess you just dont like the game. Watch Nakamuras millia top 32-16 at this years evo.
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>>148913224
>Undine watches and criticizes Ky's technique and not hitting the right angles
>Necro supports Ky's thrusting
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when i lose i can't help but doubt myself and games after that just become horrible because i am not playing my best or maybe i am and that's the top for me

anyone have a good way of getting over it, it feels really bad
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>>148913717
I hope they put in roxy just to piss off people.

Are there mods on pc to play as the story characters offline btw? I know people are going online with urine already. I fought one yesterday
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>>148914146
sfxt?
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>>148913717
>>We're all looking at character types and uniqueness
Probably Necro, T. Hawk, and/or Oro.
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>>148913913
Oro's story on the capcom portal pretty much confirms it.

He charged Dhalsim with seeking out the root of all power and that Satsui no Hadou, Agni Yoga, and Psycho Power original from that source. Oro will never be as good as the story implies since he can use faux satsui, yoga fire, and psycho power.

Also Akuma is hunting Necalli according to character profiles. Chances are since Necalli turned up in Balrog's character story in the section after the cinematic story mode they're going to do a 2nd Impact style story update next year.
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>>148914162
no sorry but zato is way too no fun allowed even for gg, fuck him
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>>148914161
GG: Sin

SF5: Karin, Ken

3S: Yun

SF4: idk????? probably yun
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>>148914065
Kys
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>>148914254
I wanna fug ram's oneesan!
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>>148914293
>Sin
>gorilla

>Karin
>gorilla

I don't even play Yun in 3S i play yang since genei jin is impossble on pad.
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>>148914442
>sin not gorilla

Are you serious? Sin was and still is the definition of a gorilla character.
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>>148914146
DOA 5 LR?
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Is Birdie good for a beginner?
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>>148914532
sin has to play footsies he can't just run up and wail on you like someone like sol or leo can
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>>148914254
can i come over and watch you play dizzy?
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>>148914442
karin is the most gorilla character in sf5 lol
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Which Arcana Heart should I if I like grabblers but don't want the mounties to bust down my door for playing Kira
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>>148914697
t. necalli main
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>>148914676
>he cant just run up and beak driver or slide on you
also
>beak driver
>footsies
kek
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>>148914532
>Sin was and still is the definition of a gorilla character.
That would be Leo. Sin is probably the most honest character in Xrd.
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>>148914836
>sin
>honest
what.
Did you not see machaboo at evo? He was making sin look more dishonest then nakamura with millia.
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>>148914782
necalli is the most honest character in the game. losing to a necalli just means you were OUTSKILLED.
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>>148914223
Tbh I'm having issues with my PS2 pad but ill see if I can find another one laying around.

I don't have the muscle memory with my FC4 to be good with it sadly
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>>148914937
t. necalli main
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>>148914664
yes
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>>148913106
Yes

>>148914065
Zone your opponent.
Combo into 2D, cancel into 214HS for oki
Use your double airdash on oki for mixups.
Do TK Bubble Backdash j.S to back off while protecting yourself.
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>>148914937
the most honest character is dhalsim though
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do people play singles in kof?
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>>148915059
Alright, just say when.
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>>148914664
He'll teach you to block.
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>>148914929
That's just Machaboo being a fucking god though. He wrecks everyone with Ky too.
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>>148915176
No, only team.
Watch out for next Evo because Smashfags will be triggered KOF gets to have a team tournament.
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>>148915253
not even online? why is it an option then
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>>148915119
Only characters that are honest in V are Zangief and Rashid, they need hard reads and commitment to win while having shitty risk vs reward ratio.
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>>148915314
The only KOF people play online are 98 and 02 and they don't have singles, people might play it in XIV
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Anyone got a link to the Revelator OST?
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>>148915253
Team as in multiple guys or team as in Marvel style with multiple characters? Because I don't remember a team game in the regular FGC since SFxT was still around.
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>>148914254
>>that pan around her thighs, bust and hands
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>>148913717
Yet they'll homogenise the unique styles of the characters.
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>>148915440
>honest cuz they're bad meme

nah
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>>148915440
How is Alex not honest?
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>>148913717
If they add Poison they'll either remove her fireball or her rekka. Maybe even both.
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You all talk shit about Elphelt but none of you could do two meterless unblockables in a row.
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>>148915616
>honest because they have to win honestly
If you lose against Zangief or Rashid you made poor decisions over and over.
>>148915628
Gorilla damage, easy hitconfirms, lariat cc fishing.
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>>148915769
>this is what rookies really believe
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>>148915769
Alex's damage is honestly pretty shitty compared to Ken, Karin or hell, even Chun. He needs powerbomb resets to do any noteworthy damage.
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>>148915738
It'll be her fireball, since they gave it to Laura.
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>>148915986
they only gave 1 version to laura
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>>148915904
>>148915628
Wow a game where grapplers are considered the "honest" characters, capcom have really outdone themselves
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>>148915904
His damage is great but the thing is that he has to reset for it to be great but at the same time he has so many situations where you can end a combo then grab your opponent that is just ridicolous, almost every combo ends with him being close enough for bombing or hard reading kneeing
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What do you think /fgg/? Do you agree with this person?
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>>148915867
But it's the truth, stop being predictable.
>>148915904
His damage is pretty good and he can reset and meme. I don't feel he is dishonest but he has some reliable bs and can win with it, not on the same level as Rashid or Zangief at all.
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>>148916183
to an extent.
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Can you TK that Dizzy bubble?
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>>148913717
WHERE THE FUCK IS AKUMA THEN
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>>148916183
Nope. That's the attitude that Riot Game took with League of Legends, and it's stopping me from playing. I want a training mode in which to learn the basics of a game so that I don't make an ass of myself online.
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>>148916183
No. His idea of basic competency is set too high.
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>>148916183
>WAHHHH I DONT WANNA PRACTICE JUST GIVE ME FREE WINS WAHHHHHHH
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>>148914676
I thought GG has no footsies.
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>>148916246
yeah, thats how you get it low
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>>148916392
>I want a training mode in which to learn the basics of a game so that I don't make an ass of myself online.

I can understand team games but fighting games are a different beast. You can easily just do casual matches until you are comfortable. Not saying Training mode is undesirable or anything.
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>>148916183
While he's right about SFV not being "lab heavy" like some recent games (KoF 13, SFV, Xrd) I don't think he's right about that being a symptom of modern games and it's just the average player he's going against is just much more informed/better than the average kid putting his coin in the arcade machine back in the day.

Keep in mind the mentality of 90s kids who never took fighting games seriously is th inking supers/ultra/critical arts/etc are "secret moves"

It's just people are much more competent these days
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>>148916540
if anything guilty gear should be super casual considering how unpopular it is.

who wants to spend time and effort learning a game that 5 people in the united states plays?
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>>148916183
No, not at all. In SFV you still need to lab. Just because the combos are generally easier doesn't mean you can win without labbing. This guy seems at a really low level where he thinks labbing is solely "Can I do my combo". Can he hit-confirm off two hits? Does he know his resets? Can he react to his opponents' reset? etc. The top players tend to lab a shitload and it's not because they have execution problems.
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>>148916392
I don't think he is saying training mode shouldn't exist unlike riot who said they didn't put sandbox mode in because they didn't want people to feel like that had to grind it out in sandbox mode before playing.
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>>148916183
but this has always been fighting games
>people hand to spend hours learning how to do a hadouken
if you want none of that play karate champ or doa
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>>148916613
GG has footsies they just take place 10 feet off the ground
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>>148916183
No, because fighting games peaked mechanically in 1999 and 2001. Ever since then it's been refinement or rearrangement, but never adding more complexity.

The inputs have largely stayed the same with frame data and input delay changing more than anything else.

SFV doesn't differ from SF3NG or vanilla SF4 too greatly beyond the 3 frame input buffer. SF3 even had a 6 frame delay on its first run of arcade units and SF4 had a 7.6 frame delay on its first run of arcade units.

SF4 didn't turn lab heavy until AE and SF3 didn't turn lab heavy until 3S.

Even KOFXIV is going back to this vanilla style first launch as opposed to the lunacy of 13, which itself was a reactionary development because of the response to 12.
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>>148916747
>they didn't want people to feel like that had to grind it out in sandbox mode before playing.
>for a MOBA
Except you absolutely fucking should have to grind it out in sandbox mode before playing a MOBA, lest your teammates assfuck you for it
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>>148916183
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>>148916664
Normies dont give a fuck if a game is easy or not, if its anime its not gonna sell at all. People literally only play smash because its nintendo characters.

Imagine if they made specials 1 button and removed dps in street fighter, no one would fucking play that shit. Believe it or some people like depth in games.
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>>148916681
compare it to SF4 dude, that game was nothing but labtime learning 500 different OCs and shit
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is bison low iq?
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remember rising thunder

what a good idea
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>>148916945
you have to be low iq to lose to him
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>>148916183
I agree that long combos and execution grinds can make it a huge pain in the ass to pick up new games. It's especially bad in BB when you just pick up the next iteration, only to find that they changed all the combo routes of your character for no fucking reason.
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Anyone wanna play doa 5 on ps3?
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>>148916681
>Can he hit-confirm off two hits? Does he know his resets? Can he react to his opponents' reset? etc. The top players tend to lab a shitload and it's not because they have execution problems.


Thing is confirming off two hits and the opponent reset s something labbing won't really do well in because in matches the psychological and physical factors along with being less prepared make a big difference. In the lab you can do it flawlessly but in the field that tends to not work out as well as one would envision, Vega's USF4 cr.lp hit confirm is pretty much so hard to do because the execution barrier on top of the standard game factors coming in make it much harder then other hit confirms that even doing a 3+ cr.lp is a cause of joy for Vega players and this is one of the more extreme cases.
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>>148916971
>make a game about giant robots
>just make it SF4: Robot Edition
FUCK
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>>148913717
e. honda confirmed
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>>148916914
>if it was dragonball and berserk and shit people would play it
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>>148917065
> SF4: Robot Edition with cooldowns on specials that were one button
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>>148917065
Ugly generic giant robots at that. Most of them looked like placeholders.
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>>148917054
>psychological
people just playing the odds with setplay, that stuff only comes up when you've played a long set to get a persons tendencies
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>>148917048
Does it have cross play with ps4?
I just got doa5lr a couple days ago
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>>148917067
He's too pure for this world
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>>148916246
Yes, it's a pretty important part of her toolset.
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i'm getting bored of fighting games.

sf5 is shit, uniel is shit, guilty gear is super shit, kof 14 looks like 12 year old shit.
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>>148917391
No.
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>>148917202
One button specials could have been good if they were alterable based on if you were moving forward or back or staying still (moving forward then button shoots a short range blast forwards, moving back will shoot it up, standing still it's a charge projectile) or other factors
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Do you guys really hate Guilty gear?

Ive been planning to get it if I find it for under 40 bucks
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>>148916246
yes it's like what you do after you knockdown as oki setup/stop their advance if you pop it right away
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>>148917501
>le tired gamer

Go make a thinly veiled /pol/ thread on /v/ then you sad sack of shit
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>>148917530
chels fireball was kind of like that, holding forward made it faster
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>>148917067
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Rest of the EVO games are now coming out of the woodwork to shit on McRib's glorified garage tournament after Smashers started the complaining on Friday

https://testyourmight.com/threads/why-do-we-let-evo-treat-us-like-this.60951/
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>>148917501
play old games.
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>>148917570
it's scary how you knew what i was thinking
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anyone want to play melee?
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>>148917537
it's the sfv players
good and complete game with amazing online/tutorial modes, not quite marvel but will hone your reflexes
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>>148917660
reevaluate your life
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>>148917537
/fgg/ isn't a hivemind. Some people like it, some don't like it, some ignore it and some are kermit posters.
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>>148917510
Lame.
I dont know how to play the game anyways, got any good references to learn with?
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>>148917501
>le ST is amazing meme
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>>148917537
Plenty of people here play that kusoge, probably almost as much as the people still playing sfv
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>>148913717
C. Viper please.
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>>148917635
Are there any fighting games where there is a playable frog?
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>>148917868
it's almost a shame ST is so fucking dead, if it was more popular all 3 people who give a shit about it could fuck off to their own general
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>>148917537
guilty gear is k. no idea why so many ppl shit on it here
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>>148918030
KI
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>>148918030
Bloody roar
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>>148917653
>Think I'm outgrowing video games
>suddenly gain an interest in old tech, and by association old vidya
>Been having a blast playing the fuck out of old ass games
I'm enjoying Monster World IV right now.
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>>148918030
any fighting game with a french character
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>>148918061
That's a toad
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>>148918032
fitegaem politics
build a wall
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>>148918030
Rash in KI is top tier with a good theme.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rEBNiF3avt8
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>>148918190
sorry mr zoologist
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>>148918030
SF3 TS
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God Balrog is unfun to play against.
t.16er
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>>148916183
what, you don't love wasting hours of your life in training mode and learning dozens of combos before you can actually start playing the game?
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>>148917824
The in game tutorial and freestepdodge.com
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>>148918192
Why are covered eyes so lewd?
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>>148918268
Watch your toes white bpi
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>>148918268
>balrog is fun to play against
t. balrog player in a a balrog mirror match
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>>148918030
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VXiTVLBwWYA
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>>148918327
I love charge fiestas
t.former superbronze guile
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>>148918340
>3DS

Asui deserves better
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>>148917501
koihime enbu
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>want to learn Ken because he looks fun
>hate shotos and don't want to be known as the subpar DP mashing shitter
I hate videogames
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>>148918617
>caring what others think of you in a fighting game
beta bitch
im kind of the same way
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just died at level 98 on survival
someone kill me
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>>148917642
tl;dr fat kids have never been to an all day event before and need to sit down to eat hamburger
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>>148918617
well you want to play Ken, you already are all of those things but don't let it stop you.

Embrace it, be the mashing DP shitter and you'll probably end up in gold.
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>>148918617
I can't believe they made this into an actual outfit.
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>>148917423
>>148916617
Finally got it working. Had to slow down a bit.
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Does KoFXIV have close/far normals?
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>>148916183
I disagree about labbing requirements, training mode should be an integral part of getting good, but I'd rather the time spent be about learning all the properties of all your buttons than just muscle memorizing combos.

I fucking hate anime combos, I like spacing, mindgames and being able to just push a single button and know it's accomplishing something, marvel style ToD is just fucking unplayable to me, and Skullgirls might be even worse because because you tend to have less dps and have double the amount of hits, and have to game the system even harder to get your kills.

I really don't understand where anime combo nerds came from and I despise them for ruining fighting games.
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Why are people so focused on characters being "honest"?
From what I've noticed, "honest" character usually tend to be really boring to both play and play against.
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>>148918617
>Been playing Guile since his release
>want to play Nash because he looks like he can do Guile's offensive neutral but better
>will look like a band wagoner if I start playing him now

I'll wait for him to get nerfed, that way it'll be hip and cool when I play the edgelord
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>>148918486
Our only hope to play any SJ character in a real fighting game would be Shonen Jump vs Capcom which will never ever happen. Fuck Bamco.
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>>148918703
>Hard Survival
>Level 45.
>Bomb out.
>Get nothing.

gg capcom, gg.
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>>148917574
If there was like 4 buttons for normals and 2 for specials (there are exceptions that the buttons allocated for normals and specials vary like 3 buttons normals, 3 buttons specials).

On top of that you can vary on how meter is gained or even function.
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Anybody want to play a few sets?
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>>148919338
do you play alpha 3
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>>148919338
no
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>>148918876
Now you need to air backdash and hit it before landing from the TK
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>>148919019
There are chances he will never be nerfed because capcom so better get on that wagon
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>>148918953
It's basically what intermediate level player think is cheap, but they know calling something cheap is scrubby so they call it dishonest.
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>>148919370
>>148919338

Sorry should have specified, I'm looking to play sfv
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>>148919390
Hit it with what? jS?
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anyone know the kof 14 demo roster?
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>>148919654
Kyo
Iori
Sylvie
King of Dinosaurs
Mai
Nelson
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Are there any widespread complaints about KI? Seems like an okay game that people would play if it was launched cross platform.
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>>148919709
and Chuun'ei
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>>148919767
Only that it's not made by capcom so it must be shit. The same complaint every non capcom fighting game gets
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>>148919767
The main thing is basically
>xbone
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tfw u lose to a laggy bronze shitter in the mirror match
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>>148919767
KI is awesome, it just gets hate because of Xbox 1/Windows 10
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>>148915769
if you lose to any character you made poor decisions dumbass
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>no irl friends
>no locals
>don't like playing with strangers
>only online friend who likes fightan only likes mortal kombat, blazblue and is a graphics whore
>I hate mortal kombat and anime fighters and have a computer too shit to run modern games
>we talk constantly about playing, and keep picking up new games to try but either he doesn't end up liking it or I end up not being able to run it
>been looking for a game to main for a year
>we're running out of games to try

What do I honestly do here /fgg/?
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>>148919561
Aee you west coast?
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I want to marry Laura
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>>148919767
I think its a bit too different for people to just jump into. Most people probably don't give it a chance because It has its own terminology, its own combo structure, the breaker system, and the preconceived notion that its an MK knockoff. Once you actually play it though you find this stuff isn't really that intimidating.
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in the night i hear it all the coldest story ever told
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>>148919767
its rockpaperscissors for xbone
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>>148919990
Aye, cfn?
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>>148919767
I really don't like the american fighting game edgy mortal kombat inspired aesthetic, even though it's less edgy and more derpy it still has it.

I'm sure it plays fine, the fanbase seems really in love with it.
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>>148919767
Not for newcommers besides le ebin MS boogeyman, but most people who have stuck around arent snce the beginning arent too hot about Season 3. Its not a bad season but it's jsut some questionable things in character design.

I wouldnt say its worrying, the game is still growing and the community is still very tight, but right thats kind of where the inside scene is at.
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>>148920038
>rockpaperscissors
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>>148919970
find something you do like? what the fuck

You clearly don't actually like fighting games
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>>148919970
probably put in some effort for once
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>>148920107
>the game is still growing
didnt it get less entrants at EVO this year than last year
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>>148917642
>it's not running smoothly enough!!!!

no fucking shit, there were over 10,000 people in attendance

there is not a single fighting game tournament that comes even remotely close to that number, running EVO must be a nightmare
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>>148919709
>>148919834
hey not bad
downloading

>>148919767
breakers
its the whole reason doa can't take off
im getting it next month with an xbone S i think tho
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>>148920089
SeaPerson, gonna be practicing balrog
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>>148920107
>questionable things in character design.

isnt it really just the screen covering murderbats?
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>>148919587
Yes
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>>148920168
It got the second highest growth outside of SFV
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>>148920038
LIES
I
E
S

WISH THIS MEME WOULD DIE AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

>>148920168
No, it grew more from last evo to now comapred to the growth from 2014-2015
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>>148920107
one thing KI definitely deserves praise for is that the developers actually listen and make intelligent changes so even the new characters have some issues they'll be fixed before it gets really out of hand
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>>148920234
Cool i haven't fought one yet
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>>148920195
How do breakers even work?
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>>148920337
resets game to neutral instead of a combo, but you can counterbreak to keep combos going if you expect a break
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>>148912901
>After years of laying around in a crystal and motherhood, dizzy returns to fighting
>She finds she's gotten too fat to wear her old outfits
>Ky likes his wife thicc
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>>148920337
http://ki.infil.net/cbreaker.html
its a mess
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>>148920239
Nah, RAAM is one of the least offensive of season 3 in that regard. Its mostly things like arbiter or gargos where they do their own thing. They just feel a bit disconnected from the previous seasons.
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>>148920337
There are Light, Medium, and Heavy breakers. You know your opponent uses a breakable medium in their combo? You press medium punch and kick to break it. Kinda like a burst. If your opponent knows you're gonna break though they can counter break you, and you get locked out from breaking. You also get locked out if you break with the wrong strength. In high level lately people tend to not break if they can help it because they don't want to risk the punish from a counter breaker.
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>>148920195
Nice. You can finally play me and we can strem it. I'm getting the xbone s too, but I'm waiting for the gears 4 edition.
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>>148920551
Seems annoying

It doesn't cost any resources? Do you have to mash buttons at random to avoid getting combo broken?
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>>148920148
I love fighting games, I spend hours playing against the AI or in training mode in the ones I grew up with in the arcade and still love, he just refuses to play anything I like more than once or twice and I can't run anything he wants to.

I'm a NEET on guvbux so I can't get a console or upgrade my computer.

>>148920164
Effort into what? I try to do games with strangers online now and then but it just ends up being uncomfortable and mentally draining. The nearest local is a 12 hour drive away.
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>>148920624
whats the dlc situation for ki?
is anything no longer available?
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>>148920730
No you just mix up the strength of the moves you use. The combo system is flexible, and its why the breaker system works.
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>>148920337
Okay so the combo system works like this
>Opener->Auto-double/manual->linker->repeat into ender
When the opponent does a Auto-double/manual or linker they have to choose a specific strength to do it at, light, medium, heavy. If you press both lights/mediums/heavies to a corresponding light/medium/heavy auto-double/manual or linker when it hits you, you C-C-C-COMBO BREAKER.
However, if you fuck up, like say you try and break the wrong strength or you mistime the break, you get locked out, which means the opponent gets to continue his combo without threat of being broken. And worse, the opponent can throw out a counter breaker, which counters the combo breaker and locks you out for longer then normal.
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>>148920735
>I'm a NEET on guvbux
get a fucking job instead of whining about not having enough video games to play
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>>148920752
Its all out right now, and its all coming in one package in september, plus the soundtrack and dev commentary
>>
we in bros
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>>148920752
Nope you can still get everything.
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>>148920752
You can get everything except shadow jago for 60 bucks. I think he's either 5 or 10 bucks.
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>>148918931
>anime combo nerds came from
when sf2 invented combos
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=37wrChWcvyU
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>>148920752
I don't know what the deal with Shago, but he might be unavailable? I dunno
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>>148920914
US?

I need muh Sylvie
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>>148919767
xboner
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>>148921020
He's still available he just isn't apart of any season. You gotta buy him separately.
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Do meaties override wake up jab and grab? Is Ryu's down MP a meaty?
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>>148919947
>missing the point
Making 1-2 bad decisions and losing the game against Mika is not the same as making 5 bad decisions in a row against Rashid or Gief, lmfao how can you be this dumb?
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>>148921039
eu store
it looks nice in motion irl
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>>148920871
Can't get a job because I have a 6 year blank spot on my resume and have no education, even mcdonalds doesn't return my calls, there's nothing like a job center that'll just hand out work here either. And before you call me out about that too I had a serious health problem that took me out of commission, I've worked before and enjoyed it.
>>
>>148920132
>>148920291
>doa is rockpaperscissors tits lmao
>ki isn't and is metal AF
t.keits
cccccombobreaker llllloockout coccocombreaker ccccounterbreaker
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>>148921135
yeah the visuals got cleaned up a lot

I know it's not T7 or anything but it looks fine
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>>148921151
get some skills, do some volunteer work
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>>148921126
if properly timed, almost anything can be a meaty and yes, they will stop wake up jab and grab if you timed it correctly.
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>>148920983
How are they getting dizzies off a single 3 hit jumpin? Is SFII seriously that jank?
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So he can cancel his specials in vtrigger like bison?
>>
Games won by character specialists:
Tekken
Smash 4
Pokken
KI
MvC3
XrdR
Melee
SFV

Games won by counter picking:
Killer Instinct
Mortal Kombat


>Americans in charge of balance
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>>148921237
Who the fuck said anything about doa?
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>>148921237
there's tells for the moves you need to break so its not random
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>>148921312
combos were a mistake
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>>148921128
ok and you have to make more bad decisions againt chun than gief, but whos the character your whiny scrub ass will bitch about, kill yourself and go back to/v/
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>>148920914
what is wrong with fighting games and faces in 2016
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>>148921151
i got my first job as a dishwasher with NOTHING on my resume
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>>148921332
>infil
>character specialist
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>>148921447
3D was a mistake
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>>148921414
literally
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>Kum got more buffs than Ram

maybe one day she will be good again
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>>148921526
Only played Nash in top 8
>>
Is dizzy good for a beginner?
>>
>>148921332
What's wrong with counter picking?
>>
>>148921431
But you're the one who's arguing like /v/ lmfao, try to think before posting.
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>>148921479
nothing looks better than big gaps of nothing because it implies you're young and hopefully eager and looking to make a start, something followed by a year or more of nothing implies you're lazy and were stoned the whole time

>>148919970
dude just make new friends
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>>148921526
>infil
>counter picker
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>>148921604
>Ram face when no longer boss mode
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>>148921332
Didn't saint switch from shaheen to jack?
>>
kof looks smooth in gameplay which is nice
the graphics are balls though
>>
Does KoF demo have online?

>>148921332
That fucking alien DLC has completely ruined MKX tourneys. Fuck Ed Boon greedy fuck.
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>>148921612
Only played Nash the entire tournament, he kept talking in interviews about all these pocket characters he has but he didn't even use FANG on nobodies in lower pools.

>>148921332
>character specialists
>MvC3
cheeky
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>>148921816
Nope
>>148921791
Is Iori a demon?
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>>148921791
holy shit lmfao
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15.1ms input lag for 900 local currency (rap4)
or
1.5ms~4.9ms input lag for 2000~1500 local currency(tes+ or te2+)
?

How much is input lag worth in these situations? I know 15ms is almost a full frame delay, and I know polling window and all this shit. I also know that the 500 difference between te2 and tes are negligible, but when it goes between these two and the RAP4, is a visible difference.

I wanna know if it's worth paying double for the marginal value of consistently trading when both players press the same button at the same time.
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>>148921873
a semen demon
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>>148921604
her swords don't die anymore on block

isn't that a pretty good buff? wouldn't that make her at least mid tier now?
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>>148921135
>>148921791
>even nights convinced.
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>>148921447
>>148920914
>>
>>148921873
No he just has a blood disease

>>148921816
Can't the community just agree to ban Alien or is there too much corporate money involved at this point
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>>148921816
What actually makes Alien so strong?
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>>148921931
i have both a stick with a ps360+ and a hrap v kai and feel no difference and switch between them often
the input lag isn't enough to matter
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>>148922000
Probably retard high-low mixups
You know, like every top tier MKX character
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>>148922000
ed boons greed
>>
>>148921312
there was no concept of combo so getting 3 hits in succession was probably a big deal in the design room and dizzies tolerance set to that
>>
>>148921959
>gif
>yt screen
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>>148921931
To me it only matters whent the game you are playing has atrocious input lag like sfv.
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>>148922096
>ed boon will never be greedy enough to remake Primal Rage since WB bought midway and owns the rights
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>sylvie flies during her run
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>>148922212
Would they keep the stupid special move inputs?
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>>148921312
>>148920983
>random damage/stun
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zSSGhpBAfPo
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>>148920730
You mix it up and the system favours the offense because if you fuck up you (the comboer) and they get reset to neutral. If THEY fuckup you can do more damaging combos without worry of it getting broken. If you misread a break and counter broke wrong you get punished (sometimes they can fail to punish you but rare), if you read them right and counterbreak them correct the KV meter gets reset, they are locked out and you can go for your hardest punish.

If you mash you will get locked out more often then not and you get wrecked hard, I've tried the mash way before.
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>>148922079
Teyah doesn't have info on the xbox one side of sticks

>>148922203
Why so? SFV would be my main game
>>
>tfw the the cannons and seth killian will soon join ed boon as the greatest fighting game developers
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>>148922480
what did he mean by this
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>>148922462
well i meant whatever hrap is for the ps4, they have too many weird names for their products
>>
why aren't you playing the kof 14 demo
>>
>>148922442
jesus christ how did this franchise become a fucking thing
>>
>>148922571
I want to put my penis in her mouth desu.
>>
anyone wanna play melee?
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>>148922571
Cause it's shit
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What even happened here? I mean who was this guy?
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>>148922571
cba booting my ps2
>>148922606
people were noobs back then, alpha series was the real beginning of competitive sf
>>
>>148922571
Because SNK decided to shoot themselves in the foot by accepting a sony exclusive bribe
>>
>>148922462
On top of the total input delay of 8 frames in sfv your inputs with the hrap v have a high chane of jumping into the next polling window making it 9 frames of input delay...not fun.
>>
>>148922674
Are there any good options for using a GC controller on PC?
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>>148921758
Saint's mains were Bob/Ganryu and Bob/Jack in TTT2. He played Shaheen because Jack was trash tier in 7.0 and none of the others were in. Not sure if that counts as a character specialist or not.
>>
>>148922692
He was the true spirit of the FGC
Esports killed him
>>
>>148922523
Riot will save the fgc.
>>
>>148922795
There are GC to usb adapters, and a lot of chinese USB knock offs
>>
>>148922721

A used ps4 is cheaper than a decent graphis card
>>
Did Ky pluck out one of Sin's eyes and implant it in himself or what? Is that how he got gear powers?
>>
>>148922571
its not out for america
>>
When giefs triggers you and you block it how do you not get hit by CA?
>>
ggs reno, I'm done for the night
>>
Thanks for playing with me dawg, balrog seems fun, i didnt realize he could cancel his specials in v trigger. Is his ca always only 1 hit?
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>>148922998
hold up, it's hideously negative on block
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>>148922958
But I already have a decent graphics card
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>>148922551
I understand.
I have the option also of having a brook fighting board pcb on a customized stick from a local shop for roughly 1200 local currency.
This custom stick would totally be my choice, but there are some other problems irrelevant to the input lag like 3 months of building and they not responding me in time.

>>148922746
from your experience, 8 frames vs 9 frames is a great difference between 0f to 1f?


There's also a problem that I play on PC and the HRAP needs joytokey, that's just more lag added on top of 1f
>>
dizzy looks OP as fuck, that midscreen damage into setplay why does ram even exist
>>
>>148923053
I use an HRAP with x360ce. theres no added input lag that way.
>>
>>148922998
hold up
>>
>>148922795
yeah

google 4 port mayflash adapter
>>
>>148922571
No love heart.
>>
>>148923105
>dizzy is also setplay

FUCK
>>
>>148921841
No he did play fang in pools. It was on capcomfighters though so no vods yet that i know of
>>
>>148921841
>using your pocket characters in pools
lmao
>>
>>148923141
nerfing sin was pretty obvious that arcsys only wants you to play setplay gorillas
>>
>>148922998
nigga its either -5 or -6 just press a button
>>
>>148923036
Yer its always just that one big hit. His v trigger is fun to mess with people with but if you block the first punch mashing jab will beat all of the followups, so its not really very good.
>>
What's the current state of fightcade vs ggpo latency?
>>
>>148923053
>3 months to build a stick
damn i hope theyre waiting for parts during most of that
>>
>>148923271
Please ignore this autist, not all skullgirls players are like this please give the game a chance.
>>
>>148921332
>KI in both
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>>148923271
Why did you feel the need to add a skullgirls webm, though? Your post was perfectly fine without it, you fucker.
>>
BB x GG literally

W H E N
H
E
N
>>
>disliking GG
what? dont you enjoy the HYPE setplay??? go die you /fgg/ots
>>
>>148923262
derp post of the year
>>
>>148923108
Nice program, will save if i decide to buy the rap.

I'll just wait a week to see if the custom shop responds me, otherwise I'll buy the rap locally and bring some OBSF's with a friend that's abroad

>>148923320
Yes, and on top of that they also have a gigantic wait list and there'll probably be 50 sticks in front of mine.
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>>148921791
It's a pretty nice looking PS2 game

I don't have a problem with that

>>148923453
Never because BB has a coherent story and all the alternate universes have been explained as opposed to GG's "lets make up shit every 3 seconds but still pretend like we have a story"
>>
>>148923484
Bru you know what I mean.
>>
>>148923459
>Dizzy has better neutral than Ramlethal
>better damage
>setplay is worse overall but way better midscreen
>has actual pressure and mixup outside of her setplay shit
Wew glad to see this game still isn't worth playing unless you pick console exclusives/DLC
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>>148923453
Both Daisuke and Mori have said they don't think its a good idea.
>>
when's Anji getting added to revelator
>>
>>148923636
>mad your shitskin is trash
get good
>>
seriously though, the gameplay feels good but the graphics are stuck a gen behind.
maybe they should have done what xrd did with HD models being switched in during cinematic supers.

looking forward to hbr's posts i guess
>>
>>148923823
After robo key
>>
>>148923636
Don't worry, once a player wins EVO with her they'll nerf her.
>>
>>148923045
>>148923109
>>148923229
Ok it's scary
>>
>>148923849
Mai, with the face of a 7 year old anime girl
>>
>>148923691
This looks gay and cute
>>
>>148923849
You mean a gen and a half. That looks like a late PS2 game which is amazing since it started off looking like an early PS2 game.
>>
>>148923223
https://youtu.be/aHTcucOk00s?t=18
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>>148923338
>>148923401
sorry you fucking nerds

just alot of this post >>148916183
is just casual baby shit

>I want to see more SFVs in the world, but I still want to be Jam and Bullet
this is the stupidest thing I've ever heard
>>
>>148923971
no shut up before you summon hbr and his mighty walls of text
>>
Tbh I don't get why people hate training mode or find anything wrong with it.

Did you nerds ever play sports?
>>
>>148923053
I'm saying that 8 frames is the edge of the amount of input delay you'd want in a fighting game any greater than that and you start to lose the ability to react to even basic things.

If the game has the standard 4-5 frame of input delay or less 1 frame won't change your reactions.
>>
Is it true that the PS3 version of Revelator won't even let you play Dizzy unless you buy her DLC colors?
>>
>>148923973
Wait is this where the gorilla meme comes from.
>>
>>148923930
Daisuke is pretty gay and cute
>>
Setplay >>>>>>>>>> foosies
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>>148923971
desu it looks like a dolphin emulated Wii game because the models and textures are a bit better than PS2 but it has buckets of AA

fine with me tho
>>
why doesnt the psn store update at midnight
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>tfw Ram is STILL shit

it's just not fair bros
>>
>>148924395
Nah Japan calls over bearing characters gorillas (They used to call Kokonoe Pink Gorilla), and it caught on with the anime fgc in the west.
>>
>>148924726
>foosies
it's called spacies
>>
>>148924825
Shitskins should always be shit
deal with it mexican
>>
>>148916183
>implying there aren't classic games more execution heavy than Ultra IV
The one thing IV really doesn't have going for it is how much is character / matchup specific. That's fucking hard to learn and remember, multiplying what you have to learn at a nearly exponential rate.
>>
>>148924726
>tfw people still don't understand footsies and just wiggle around and get whiff punished

I put people in the blender for their own good
>>
>>148924906
most characters in 4 had to learn different combos for chun and blanka
>>
>>148924786
Because PSN is shit
>>
>>148924894
fuck off pol

delicious brown anime girls are the best
>>
>>148917642
It will keep getting worse until people start building real community tournaments without him.
>pocket da money from publishers to advertise their games
>squeeze out little tournaments to accommodate this, right down to the game the event was founded on
>have a legion of unpaid volunteers as you pocket the money (only a/v got paid this year)
But who am I kidding, no one will walk away. The big guys want dat esports money, and the little guys just content themselves to side tournaments at evo itself instead of splitting like they should.
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Is everyone actually a little girl inside?
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>AI difficulty spikes means I will never complete survival on hard
fuck this game, do challenges give fight money?
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Is the goober meme that Japanese GG gods have achieved a level of mastery impossible in simple games like Street Fighter actually true?
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>>148925215
it's a metaphor
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>>148925142
is shitgirls the only community that has moved away from EVO themselves?

why are they the only ones with balls?
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Where was Kazunoko at Evo? Did Capcom finally assassinate him?
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>>148925397
joe eliminated him to get into top 8
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Official Kusoge list:
ST
KoF 2002
Kof XIII
A2
A3
NG
3S
MVC3
MKX
SFV
Uniel
Xrd
KI
Smash
Skullgirls

Official Kino list:
HF
2I
USF4
Vsav
KoF 98
AC + R
Melty Blood
CVS2
Samurai Showdown 5
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>>148925397
he almost got top 8 in sfv and did get top 8 in xrd
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>>148925484
>kino
>>>/tv/
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>>148924894
Explain elena than 16er
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>>148924825
Put up with it or play brown Dizzy
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why do people throw all the time

after a jump
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>>148925484
Official Kusoge list:
games that people play

Official Kino list:
dead games that no one plays
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>>148925481
Why is Kazunoko weak to Americans?

Also he might not be as boring in this game as he was in SFIV, I haven't kept up with streamboaring
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>Venom gets a jump cancel 6p in the patch
>meanwhile Pot still can't jump, gatling or special cancel his 6P

I would have taken that over being able to RC the normal throw any day
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>>148925280
yes you could almost say the same for americans and marvel..
>justin/chrisg/fchamp do reasonably in sfv
>nemo/kazunoko/go1
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AHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
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>>148925615
Because usually people are expecting a move in the air, and if they miss their AA then the default reflex is a block, leaving them open to a throw. But most people will just tech it expecting this after a while

just random mash dp from fullscreen
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https://twitter.com/Harada_TEKKEN/status/755117107126280192
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put nargacuga in sf5
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When the FUCK are we going to get daily FM challenges. They said they'd be in the July update and they weren't and they haven't said shit about them since.
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>>148926303
>not wanting mizutsune for a zoning character
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Damn how did Poongko get top 3 with his Akuma?He's just dp's, he's not even doing the optimized shit ,which is ridic.
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>>148926568
because a street fighter character does not translate to a balanced form in a 3d fighting game
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Master Raven is pixiv approved
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>>148926701
No I'm more into feminine guys
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East coast Revelator room
ID is 6ajv
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How hard is it to get into KOF? I mainly just play street fighter but ive been playing since third strike on the ps2
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>>148921447

>fucking with the aspect ration
>WUTS WRONG WIT DE FACES

nice one.
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>>148926568
He had a pretty easy bracket.
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>>148926830
not that hard except 13 which is a trainingboar game
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>>148926872
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>>148921959

looks are a matter of taste, but it certainly plays better.
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>>148926641
How much would you bet they make her nipples pink?
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>>148926291
Was that at evo? The cabs look slick.
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>>148926534
>mizutsune
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fuck this cammy hi low guessing game
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>>148926974
Looks like shit but plays like a hit.
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>>148923849

Why are you so obssessed about graphics? You're ass at all the games you play, worry about improving yourself.

And for the last damn time, what Xrd did isn't as simple as what you think and would be even more work for KOF characters who traditionally have more frames of animation than GG characters.
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>>148927214
Namco probably wouldn't, Japanese artists it's kind of a weighted coin flip
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>>148927264
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Do you guys still hate KI?

Just need to know before I go saying anything that'll get me labeled a shill again.

Somebody will probably do it anyway.
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>>148927317
It looks and animates like crap nothing wrong with that.
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>>148926291
>meanwhile at Capcom headquarters
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>>148926641
Master Raven is legit the hottest black character I've seen in a videogame
>>148927374
It's good, and can get hype, but a loooot of people don't like the flow or style. Shill stuff is purely memeing
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>>148927317
>Why are you so obssessed about graphics? You're ass at all the games you play, worry about improving yourself.

Anon you can't just go around ignoring the 13th amendment like that
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Tekken 7 will save fighting games
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>>148926291
Xiayou cosplay, nice!
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>>148927374
Its just not for some people here. No one seems to hate it though.
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>>148923849
>xrd
It looks decent until
>launching into stupid fucking timerscam shit straight outa sfiv
Then it looks bad as well as being bad for the game's play.
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>>148927552
Somebody mentioned making an image like this in one of the early threads after his reveal. Didn't think it would get done.
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>>148927452
Does mobage count? Most black characters are Cole Train rip offs so she doesn't have much competition.
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anyone got any resources for yata
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>>148927518
they really need to stop adding woolie to games it's getting ridiculous now
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>>148927898
>Who are you?
>I'm you but saltier
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>>148928002
Does anyone know who this guy is? People were calling him Yung HellPockets and SkiPockets
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Sniff Fighter when?
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>>148928235
diaper fighter when
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>>148928258
idk there's probably a couple people playing ST in fightcade
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Where are some good resources for learning SFV Ibuki?
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>>148928169
Looks like Woolie.
>>
https://twitter.com/hauko_mmts/status/755264438983270400/video/1
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>>148928496
you fucked up

ds3 is shit btw
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>>148922692
The ghost of mvc2
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>>148929114
>>148922692
Darkest Timeline ver. Mike Ross
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>>148922998
>>148923910
Watch out though if they think you're gonna hold up they will mash jab to hit you out of the jump and then do the vtrigger some more probably hit it into air spd
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Is Dizzy's dlc bug fixed for ps3 yet?
>>
SFV online is shit so I must move to the 2nd biggest PC fighting game.

Will it be GG, Kof14, or Tekken?
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>>148929434
>2nd biggest PC fighting game.

lmao
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>>148929434
>GG
>KoF14
>PC

Tekken by default.
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somebody please play me in jojos i will pick my worst character aka cooler kakyoin
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>>148929434
>>148929535
Forgot to say, Tekken between those of course, because there is also KI.
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>>148929558
jojo on fightcade?
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>>148929723
ya
my fc name is 'LOL'
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N O
C O R S E T
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My god, she's giving me

Pleaaaasure

Pleasuuuuuure

Pleasuure

Pleasure

Pleasure over matter
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>>148929985
N O
H Y M E N
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>>148929434
Second biggest PC fighting game?
Time to learn some air footsies son.
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>>148930195
>Air footsies

Melty is literally mash 2A the game
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>>148930057
Imagine how autistic you have to be to care about this

rofl
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>>148929779
fatfeels help
shane is shittalking me
what do i do

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vETOiTVSWqg
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>>148930271
that's why you play uniel instead
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>>148930436
Jokes on you, I play Merkava.
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say u will never ever catch me no
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>>148930479
How
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>>148930195

>Second biggest PC fighting game
>Melty

LMAO, unless you mean air footsies with Mira's air dash or something:

https://twitter.com/killerinstinct/status/721086939495948288
>>
i can beat anyone here in any game
catch these paws
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>>148930540
His 2A is Melty tier.
>>
should i always be using the light version of lauras command grab for the extra range
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>>148930628
See me in Myth 2
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>>148930710
of course not, learn all the ranges and if you're unsure, you go with light.
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Let's take a moment to consider Laura's chubby thighs
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>>148930389
mm him p*ssy
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>>148930613
Anyone even play that bitch?
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>[Elphelt Valentine]

>- c.S
>Hurtbox increased upwards


what the fuck

does it just reach to the top of the stage now?
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>>148929434
DOA5LR.
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>>148930875
are you trying to say pissy?
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>>148930902
hurtbox means the part where she is vulnerable/what you can hit with your hitboxes.
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>>148930902
Oh nevermind, hurtbox not hitbox, so now you can actually maybe trade with it once in a while
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>>148930875
BUT WHAT IF I LOSE
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>>148930951
no *ussy
>>148931002
u cant lose with birdie as long as u believe in the heart of the lards
>>
/asg/ when?
>>
>>148931115
Never again
>>
How is everyone enjoying the demo? Actually being able to sit down with training mode and learn and get a feel for the game is making me enjoy it even more.
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>>148931267
I don't like it because it's missing love heart.
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>>148931267
Does it have online? I'm stuck at work for another 5 hours
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>>148931267
Waiting for NA
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>>148931438
Nope just 7 characters, tutorial, versus, and training mode.
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>>148931267
Stop shilling.
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>>148930867
>chubby
thicc*
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Why can't Sylvie be Poppy. I would buy XIV if Paula Paula was Poppy
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>>148929985
When I realized elphelt had a bob cut she became top sniffs.
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is uniel worth it it looks kind of expensive and dead for how much it costs
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I finally got sfv, will people shit on me for playing vega?
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>>148931526
Learn what the word shill means.
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>>148931582
No he's not used a lot online
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>>148931582
no but dont expect to be good
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>>148931543
no, you can clearly see her thigh chub up around her pantlegs


>>148931546
No, she's Kyary

while Poppy is influenced by the idol industry she's actually a parody of how the industry is run while Kyary entirely sincere (and a better musician)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N1_k2ikvXkc
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>>148931621
t. shill
>>
I like going even with gold's then they pull out their mains and I get steamrolled. Good times. Also why the fuck isn't their an add friend feature? Why is communication stripped to a bare minimum in battle lounges?
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>>148931621
That case he was wrong but lets be honest you shill a fuck ton. Remember that Chinese Kof game?
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>>148931685
Kyary os shit don'tsu
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>>148931582
nope, more Vegas is a good thing

anything to stem the tide of idiot Kens and jumpy Ryus
>>
>>148931621
you are a shill for kof and hitbox though

even if you're not shilling right now you're still "a shill"
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>>148931751
That game that I have no financial stake in and played because I enjoyed for a brief period of time and then told everyone to avoid like the plague because it became shitty?

Learn what the word shill means.

>>148931814
I do not tell people to buy a Hit Box. I have never once in my life in these threads linked to the website or any of our youtube videos or said people should get one, I never even talk about them unless someone directly asks me about it. I am never the first person to bring it up, everyone brings it up in response to me. I have no control over that.
>>
Hey is there a chart for sfv that says what your main says about ?
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>>148931621
nigger you're the textbook definition of an SNK shill
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>>148932129
same main as me= high iq
another character = gorilla
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>>148932150
Learn what the word shill means.
>>
>can't like any game without being called a shill
>shitty general
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>>148931941
I'm not trying to argue with you and you're probably curry some favor by not being so defensive and thin skinned all the time

I think you're probably not that bad of a guy to talk to in person but online you come off as a corporate dickhead because you're so biased and defensive about certain products. Even pisss isn't as bad about ST.
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>>148932150
>>148931814
>shill
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>>148932184
So it all boils down to UNGA and BUNGA?
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>start playing ken casuals
>literally just spam shoryuken
>win nearly every time because
>>
Hello I am a newfag what did the unga bunga meme originate from?
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>>148932256
>curry some favor by not being so defensive and thin skinned all the time
Literally impossible when I am attacked every single time I say anything about anything, positive or negative. It's not even that I'm a very defensive person so much as I am not allowed to make comments in these threads without getting shitposted at nonstop when all I want to do is talk about fighting games.
>>
>>148932451
prehistory
>>
>>148932235
Considering you spend all your time in this thread with a shitty trip to shill SNK games harder than any capcuck here regarding SFV that makes you a bonafide shill.

Everything you post is about how good or great kofxiv is or how shit everything is compared to kofxiv. You're 100% chinese shill faggotry.
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>>148932479
>people treat obnoxious queer the way they should
I wonder fucking why
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>>148932479
>coming to fgg to talk about fighting games
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>>148932539
>caveman were shitposting about fighting games before history
woah..
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>>148932265
>>148932236
John is a shill though, this isn't a buzzword. You must be new here if you don't know who he is.

>>148932451
an american leo player named Zidane

>>148932479
It's actually very easy to ignore people unless you're a shill
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How possible is it to play Glacius on a pad? I have a Hori FC if it makes a difference.
>>
>australian gf wanted to get into fighting games
>pads and sticks cost insane amounts money
why
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>>148932713
Just use a regular Dualshock or Xbone pad.
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>>148932713
Do you mean internet "girl" "friend"
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>>148932713
Everything is expensive here
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>>148932451
>>148932624
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pt-910ZlVTY
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>>148932628
KI on a pad is no more difficult than KI on a stick. Why even ask this question?
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>>148932628
>he fell for fighting pad meme
>>
Objective Tier List Coming Through

>S
Chun
Nash
Ryu
Ken

>A
Karin
Necalli
Cammy
Vega

>B
R. Mika
Laura
Guile
Balrog
Dhalsim
Alex
Birdie
Bison

>C
Ibuki
Rashid
Fang
Zangief
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>>148932820
Basically correct.
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>>148932781
where get stick?
i will provide delicious suck
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>>148932820
Mika is wildcard tier.
Also dont know about Vega.
>>
>>148932820
is this in any particular order? it's not a bad list, I'd probably swap Ken with either Karin or Vega.
>>
just installed fightcade and got the romset to try that jojo game, it doesn't work but all the street fighter games do, nice
>>
>>148932773
all they have is a 360 pad and im pretty sure thats absolute garbage
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>>148932816
the FC is actually a good controller on it's own and not just for fitegame, it's basically a saturn pad
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>>148932809
Because Glacius may involve holding several buttons, but I'm not sure if that's actually useful/used.
>>
>>148932820
aww is Ibuki really that bad? I've been enjoying her alot. Back to Ryu/Vega I guess
>>
>>148932854
Well I bought an etokki omni off their website but thats pretty expensive, umart has te2s for like 250 I think.
>>
>>148932713
Just order fucking stick, buttons and pcb and make one yourself. For fuck's sake, how people can be this stupid?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e8FQ_KZIAkY
you should build a hitbox though, it's superior in every way
>>
>>148932713
If you get a decent one then sticks are pretty worth their money since you'll probably use it on multiple games
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>>148932894
360 pad is literally fine, just takes some getting used to.

>>148932940
>dropping a character you enjoy because someone on /vg/ says it's bad

NO HONOR
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>>148932885
https://mega.co.nz/#!EVlXFTgK!9Qx9XNeTP6kpHUgl7Vu6c0CovdtA5pT58dHn1wMsEtE

use this rom
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>>148932820
>Ken S tier
I would swap that with Karin and put Ken mid A tier
>>
How much of a good idea is it to replace my PS3 Hori RAP with a PS4 version? I'm playing on the PS4, and I heard there is some input lag with PS3 controllers.
>>
>>148932962
>you should build a hitbox though, it's superior in every way
Why are hitbox shills so persistent, hitboxes are shit
>>
>>148932883
i'd say it's in order
>>
>>148932713

why cant your gf buy her own shti?
>>
>tfw friend broke my stick
>tfw stuck with FC4 & wiiu pro for fighting games
>>
>>148932894
>>148932713
Buy a $50 controller for them

Look on SRK forums or whatever for controllers people recommend that have a good dpad

I think xbone controller is a pretty good choice, but I haven't used one myself

dpad is all that matters, use it
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>>148933179
Because he's probably a cuck being used for his money
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>>148933119
Because a lot of people buying sticks and suck for months and years because that shit requires a lot of practice. While they can just buy a hitbox and git gud much faster.
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>>148933179
i never said she wasnt m8
they're just insanely expensive
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>>148933246
put your trip back on
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>>148933032
Karin is definitely not S tier. She's mid A at best.

Okay AAs, reversal requires bar, and has no way to beat things like instant air legs as an example. Her rekka can be interrupted between the first and second hit too.
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>>148933246
I bought a stick and I'm comfortable doing shit after like a week lmao.
>>
>>148933246
>While they can just buy a hitbox and git gud much faster.
No you wouldn't there's no proof that you'd get good with a hitbox faster than a stick
>>
>>148932962
>just pay money for all the parts then spend 2 putting it together!
>Will only cost you like 70 bucks!

Or I could spend 100 on a used stick that works just as good while saving time.
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>>148933246
hitbox feels like shit to play anything except charge
t.someone who sold their hitbox
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So what do you think Namco will do with Soul Calibur since its 20th anniversary is coming up
>>
>>148932479
>I'm a very defensive person so much as I am not allowed to make comments in these threads without getting shitposted at
Disagreeing with you isn't not shitposting Anita, and you are often wrong about stuff but won't even let go even if it is a tiny little point. You seriously need to learn to accept being wrong

And maybe if you weren't a raging cunt to people you'd be treated better
>>
>>148933341
>Or I could spend 100 on a used stick that works just as good while saving time.
Yeah this just get a used one from craigslist or somewhere
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>mfw trying shadow lab in Killer Instinct

HOW DOES IT DO THIS
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>>148933361

hopefully not another new game. sc has been shite since sc2.
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>tfw cant go to locals anymore because gonna get bullied by fellow /fgg/ memer
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>>148933361
Guest character in Tekken.
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>>148933234
i want to fuck gnar
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Man, quality of life goes up a lot when you learn you can activate bipson's super in midair
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>>148932940
No one can say if she's good or bad yet. Her neutral is awkward and more similar to SF4 style than anyone else in game right now
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>>148933431
>tfw there aren't even locals anywhere near you
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>>148933523
feelsbadman
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>>148933337
Why do you need a proof for something so obvious? Doing 236236 is super easy on hb because you just tap two buttons. Anyone can do this after a minute of practice. While stick players keep telling me how they always have problems with such inputs. Or something like microdashes. It can be a pain on stick but it's absolutely trivial on hitbox.
>hurr durr I got a stick and became an input god in one minute :^)
Yeah-yeah, I totally believe you.
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>>148933589
>you can get good on a hitbox in a minute
Yeah-yeah, I totally believe you.
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>>148933428
SC5 wasnt that bad. I didn't like the whole meter thing and the character swap, but it was better than sc3/4. SC will never be as good as SE (soul edge) SC1 or SC2 but at this point I'll take anything. SC was my main fighting game I took serious and it sucks that its thrown away.
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>>148933425
There's a whole guide on the Official site on how best to use it.
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how much will urien cost i have $5 sitting on my tablet
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>>148933473
League Fighter when.
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this Master Raven is like some black Taimanin Asagi and i am getting jungle fever. i need some way to stay loyal to aryan waifu Lili but those slutpants and titties
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>>148933523
I feel ya. My old comic book shop that used to host our locals went out of business last year so we have been awkwardly swapping members garages. Shit feels awkward and I miss the old comic book shop
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>>148933714
100k fight money
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>>148933714
32 American dollars
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>>148933656
You can do any difficult input on hitbox in a few minutes, yes. The only difficult things are half- and cirle motions. Those require practice and have some tricky techniques if you wish. But it's better to practice one thing over practicing every basic stuff on stick.
>I totally believe you
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0VClLTCxB7s
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>>148933509
WHAT
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>i could have gotten a sf2 arcade machine from when my arcade shut down for $400
>instead i bought an xbox
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Will Juri be good for a beginner?
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>>148933880
playing the game is good for a beginner
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>>148932820
What majors has Chun LI won?
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>>148933838
>uses the word wavedash
lol
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Is anyone here good with the meme Guile v-trigger combos? What is some advice for someone trying to learn them
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>>148933924
our boy the fox
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>>148934076
Stab your hands, it's less painful and more rewarding.
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>>148933361
The same thing Nintendo's doing with Metroid's 30th anniversary.

Take a fat shit all over it.
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I even cucked the kappakids
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Ways to fix Nash.

Shorten his normals.
Make his normals less safe on block.
Make his v-trigger 3 bars.
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>>148934160
I want to blow my load all over her face
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>>148934160
>gyno
You might wanna get that looked at.
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>>148934160
i hate gllty so fucking much
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Undine is cute! CUTE!
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>>148934204
Why not buff the weaker characters instead of fucking up one of the handful for characters that aren't washed down?
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>>148933838
>im returning this as soon as possible, never touching one again
yeah nah
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>>148934160
literally saw he(r) stop daigo at the top of an escalator to sign 4 copies of his book. then turns around and starts looking for offers on twitter.

good to know the fgc will always be about the nickel and dime hustle.
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>>148934418
is that shezow lol
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>>148934249
I remember Gllty doing some mad trash talking at Texas Showdown. It was a SFV team event and I remember her team was up and every time one of the opposite players lost, she would get close to their face and laugh in a sarcastic way and say stupid shit. Major Turnoff imo
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>>148934372
more like
>it's too effective so I'm buttblaster my years of stick practice worth nothing now so hitboxes must be banned in competitive play
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>tfw you were the only one of your group rooting for infiltration at the finals because you knew the mika menace needed to be stopped
>dislike fuudo now because he switched to a cheese character when he used to be the master of honesty

Finals were hype but the afterparty sucked cocks
Barfights/Gameworks were best
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why aren't you playing best boy?
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>>148934418
gooey looks like he's never been more uncomfortable in his life
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>>148934273
>implying that they're going to stick to that idea
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>>148934508
Because I like hitting Akatsukis like squash balls.
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>>148934160
Gllty was made to be face fucked.

I want to put my 7 and a half inches in her mouth
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>post YFW Dizzy saved GG
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how do I play karin
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>>148934556
>Large Character diversity in each tournament
Yeah too bad you can't patch baddies that stick to Ken or Nash only
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tfw lost 1000lp
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>>148934627
why'd they have to make such a dishonest character so fun to play, why couldn't he be boring like merkava and waldstein
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>>148934508
Because I like hyde more

but I've only played maybe 8 minutes of uniel

and i've never played jewpuncher

>>148934482
a lot of people are like that, though it's more common with girls and ugly men which both apply to gllty
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>>148934667
Didn't save for me since fucking PS3 isn't unlocking her.
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>>148934697
tfw only have 1000 lp
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>>148934526
I smell uncomfortably good
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>>148934668
S.mk, C.mp, 214+pp on wakeup. Also you can 214+hp to go over fireballs. Grats. You are a good Karin now.
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>>148934717
That was ment for >>148934160 idk how that got mixed up. I know coming from Marvel but she was the first one up and she got knocked out by the first person she faced in the team match. It's one thing to shit talk and back it up, but to get big someone else to do the work and proceed to shit talk is dumb
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is there a pastebin tl;dring uniel's characters? haven't gotten into the game at all, looking into it on steam now
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I wish I could enjoy playing SF. The anime community is the worst community ever full of retarded faggots but the games are really fun to play. The SF community is much nicer and better but SF fucking sucks.
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I don't know who this guy was but he had a lot of people walking up to him
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tfw im fucking garbage
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>>148934882
main rashit
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>>148934754
I recall that fedora guy next to you.

I saw Daigo while I was outside on a smoke break and wanted to talk to him but he looked like he was in the zone so I left him be

Also, at the pre part at GameWorks I shared a smoke break with Ino before the east vs west. Doesn't speak much english but a really cool guy.
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>>148934889
The black guy is Woolie, he does Let's Plays with the Super Best Friends. He is the fighting game junkie out of the group and a decent Marvel and SF player.
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I hate smurfs. They get their jollies out of beating low rank players without the risks of telling someone face to face that they're shit then hustling you.
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>>148934889
That's the head of the black otaku council Brennan Williams


>>148934895
just keep playing, you'll get better (likely slowly) over time
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>>148934889
I can basically smell the stench coming from this image.
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>>148934961
if you were there, why didn't you come to the 4chan casuals I hosted all sunday?

I really gotta get fit before EVO 2017
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>>148934983
I don't see the appeal either no fun in beating up shitters.
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>>148934751
Buy her colors in game. Apparently that works
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>people saying bison's antiair is bad

Holy shit what a load of scrubs. I started learning this character a couple days ago and that fucking button has some of the most ridiculous active frames, priority, and large hitbox. Sure it has 0.1 second longer startup then other antiairs but you can hit that button a week early and jumping retards will still get hit by it.
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>>148935037
>niggardly coon
But he's a fat bald white guy.
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>>148935050
Thats how I felt in CS GO. Smurfs are everywhere and even though I can stand my ground with them (cause I played a fuck ton of 1.6) I still don't see the fun in beating shitters
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>>148935072
I don't want to buy anything. Those colors fucking suck.
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>>148935034
Jesus christ its horrifying
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>>148934786
thanks
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>>148935034
who are you
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>>148935034
Hadn't looked at 4chum since I left home. My shitty phone spent most of its time looking for pokemon and calling for ubers to drag my drunk ass back to the Westgate.

I'm not great but I went 3-2 in pools while half drunk and using a character I only picked up a month ago and one of my two losses was to fourwude

Damn bartender kept feeding me martinis while I lost $40 at that video poker
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>>148935117
You don't have to like them, but buying the colors apparently unlocks dizzy
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>>148935141
you're a fucking fag. meppz isn't the only person that needs to be banned from discord...
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>>148935202
Ok. I'll have to wait untill they fix fucking dlc.
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does vega even have an antiair
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>>148932820
Alex, Dictator and Guile are too high. They are the weakest characters along with FANG, Rashido and Gief.
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I really want to play my waifu but I suck with her. What do I do?
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>>148935163
4chans official EVO reporter
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>>148932479
>HBR getting BTGO'd this hard

Nigga when you gonna stop being such a punk bitch ass 30 yo balding Numale ass nigga and fight someone?
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So what the fuck was the 3rd thing they were gonna announce for Xrd at EVO?
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>>148935309
Alex Main here to confirm

Alex's sweep is objectively the worst in the game and has a hard time meaningfully punishing certain misplays

His mixup is actually fairly honest, which isn't a positive and his command throw is both fairly short range and practically unusable without meter unless you are already in the mixup or a setup
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>>148935309
guile is actually good though and alex and bison are near the bottom?
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>>148935269
only if you can react early or get a read. Fierce Spin Edge and crouching fierce with claw at specific angles, or standing roundhouse similar to Ryu. Otherwise, jump and light buttons or mp work pretty well too, or air throw if you're wanting to look fancy.
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>>148935364
Got any more of her?
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>>148933924
I thought this was a pic of his dad until you started posting other FGC people
You both got the same bumfluff stache
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>>148933924
Don't talk to me or my son ever again.
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>>148935497
real women disappear the second you turn your head at evo my friend

however this Sakura was around all day
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>>148917990
Sherry get off of 4chan
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>>148935450
just to be sure, what rank are you?
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>>148934667
>fish yrc saving fucking anything
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>>148935624
She looks 40 years old
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>>148935624
Jesus fuck you got a picture with Alex Borstein?! Mad jealous.
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>>148935269
forward dash
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>>148935628
Sherry is a nice girl, she's one of the few people who openly defended Aris after clickbait sites started trying to ruin his life.
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>>148935645
Gold

Once people recognize how to beat Cr.mp by not contesting it until they know they can jump it, its not hard to make alex have to work extremely hard to keep momentum.
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>>148934751
Tough shit, don't play it on PS3 nigger
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>can punch you from afar
>has a command grab with 4 different follow ups
>can summon dudes
>quadruple jump
>INFINITE ARMOR

Is there anything our lord and savior can't do?
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>>148935867
sucking in your gut that hard must be bad for you
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>>148935740
Alex momentum is extremely stupid, Alex is definitely stronger than low tier or mid tier but people simply don't have those setups going on, i mean damn Alex got a Powerbombing chance from a ton of situations and after that you just EX stomp and again you are in for bombing or buttons, if you do things right one bomb can end into a ridicolous cycle of death
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>>148935827
B-but it's free on ps3 and online is free too.
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>>148935876
Get a Sunday spot.
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>>148935080
desu a2a is probably a better option in most situations where AAing could be questionable
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is this Sherry?
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>>148935930
Despite being severely fucked over by EVO in general, KI had the hypest top 8 of any game this year.
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>>148935923
Oh yeah he's probably the most stupid momentum based character right after mika but he also can be broken out of that momentum and not gain it quite as easily
EX stomp is still easy to jab AA.
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>>148935984
Sherry really has gotten big.
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I am a noob to fighting games.Should I buy ggxrd?
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>>148936050
Fuck no
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>>148935984
nigga where you was when we were money matching dark jiewa and the other chinese guys
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>>148935984
Run Choco, it's the old man from NTR doujins!
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NEW MEITENKUN INFO

https://youtu.be/AsDa9xTaUD4?t=313

>His charge moves (lunge punch and"flash kick") actually have 3 levels of strength depending on how long you charge for
>Will fall asleep if there's no user input after his super
>Climax looks like it could possibly be a low
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Is Jam high tier after the patch?
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>>148936114
alright we get it, you're gay
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>>148935992
>EX stomp is still easy to jab AA.
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>>148936114
who else are you going to play besides your husbando
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>>148936248
hes not because hes going to drop the game after 2 hours like the rest of us
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>>148936248
I play Billy/Beni/Kim in XIII so I think I might drop Beni and replace him with Meitenkun
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>>148936114
no offense but this game looks like shit
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>>148936080
If it was friday, I probably just missed you on my way to the sheri ranch
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>>148936152
It's day 1, give it time.
But probably not.
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>tfw I want to live in Vegas now

Damn you amazing nightlife and dry desert air, why do you make me want to move 1000 miles away
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>>148935034
>I really gotta get fit before EVO 2017
And then some. Ditch that awful hair on your lip too.
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>>148934418

>shezow

wow, are you serious dude?
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>>148932479
Have you ever considered taking off your completely unnecessary trip? Then you could shitpost all you want without getting bullied. Of course, you might have to give up a few of those juicy (you)s.
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>>148937059
I thought it was like...morrigan when I bought it from the perler shop. its why I was getting funny looks all tourney
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>>148937001
Technically you wouldn't be able to live in "Las Vegas." You would have to live in the real Las Vegas a little ways away from Paradise, which is the real name of the city.
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Is the kofiv demo out in America yet?
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highwaystar looks like a fun guy to hang out with 2bh
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this is the only cammy x rashid match I could find at evo (cammy won)
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>>148937236
>taking pictures with gllty
yeah i dont believe your story
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and thats it for EVO pictures I think
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>>148937757
>I want to do obscene ?????? ????? !!!!
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>>148937757
>smug was here

Oh shit did he ayy lmao you?
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>>148937757
>Smug was here
Confirmed boatposter
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zangief is so op...
someone nerf... fast...
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Where the fuck is the KOF Demo? Did it still not drop in NA?
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>>148935037
Who would even bother to reply to your challenges though?
If you lose nobody gives a fuck because you'd just ST option select and if you win you or one of your teenage fanboys would spam fgg about it for the next few months.
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>>148934786
Tfw knew all this and I'm still shit
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>>148913662
Are you stupid??? A sin just won evo.
>>
im stuck in 2000 points
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>>148938241
git gud
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>>148938173
Are you wake up jabbing into counter hit combos for 30% damage and a free mix up after? Make sure you do that.
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>>148938195
A new patch dropped today in which SIn was Nerfed.

That doesnt change the fact that the guy you're replying to is being an idiot and jumping the gun on Sin's place in the meta the DAY AFTER the patch dropped.
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>>148938195
There is a difference between balancing and nerfing to the ground.
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>>148938270
no
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KoF XIV is fun
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>>148938643
does the demo have online?
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>>148938303
Will add that to my gameplan ty
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>>148938747
Nope
>>
when will capcom give me the opportunity to change my cfn
sf4 was fun because you could switch to something cheeky every once in awhile
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>>148939059
They said last year during the betas that once the game came out name changes would only be allowed inbetween CPT seasons due to the hidden CPT point counter for online.
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>>148939059
thats what made sf4 fun?
and don't worry, capcom will provide that option eventually, for just 10$ or something
a bargain, really
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>>148938643

yeah, felt good to me right off the bat.
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I'm a literal 16er SFV Silver babby.
What do I need to know before I play this KoF demo?
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>>148939146
this is what you sound like you jaded faggot
yes sf 4 was the better game but can you let go already
>>
whys there lines going in my monitor it was fine earlier
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>>148939361
you card is dying
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>>148939379
i just bought a brand new one and it works fine on my other monitor
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WHY CANT GUILTY GEAR BE POPULAR FFS
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>>148939318
i'm not even sure what you're trying to say mate
your post made it sound like being able to change your names is what made sf4 fun, which seems like a weird reason to enjoy a game. i didnt say anything about sf4 otherwise
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Anyone know a good way to netplay GBA games?
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>animeNEETs think they're part of the FGC
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>>148939318
How do i make meme images like this?? Is there a generator for them?
>>
what does calling a character a gorilla mean exactly?
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>>148939651
unga bunga
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>>148939651
character can mash buttons without caring much about getting blasted in the face himself
>>
gonna need a demographics check on the ole fgc

https://www.strawpoll.me/10783179
https://www.strawpoll.me/10783179
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wow thread is a ghost town just a day after evo. i should have checked the unique posters of the previous threads to see the spike
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>>148939828
161 unique posters is high for fgg
>>
For anyone that doesn't want to wait for KofXIV get a NZ account it takes 5 min.

Use this address Queenstown, Otogo, 9300.

It goes without saying but don't buy another psn plus subscritopion and make your ps4 your home ps4 for that account as well.
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>>148939828
the average fgg thread is 100-120 unique IPs

during Evo it spiked to like 200 but in the span of an hour as opposed to several hours

162 is still bigger than it was before
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>>148939828
Nothing to talk about, Tekken 7 isn't out
>>
people are just keeping their shitposts for the new thread
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>>148940149
>>148940149
>>148940149
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>>148939828
EVO hype was nothing more than a momentary distraction from the reality that fighting games are dead.
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>>148939464
Because normalfags hate anime for some reason.
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>Sylvie's walk animation
top lel
They really went overboard with this one.
Also does KoF have taunts?
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>>148922000
ARMOURED, SAFE ON BLOCK, OVERHEAD REVERSAL
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I'm aware that Imgur.com will stop allowing adult images since 15th of May. I'm taking actions to backup as much data as possible.
Read more on this topic here - https://archived.moe/talk/thread/1694/


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