/domg/ - Dominions General

Said it in the other bread, will say it again : Maverni is on board in the meme game. Please be gentle.
and why golems, why

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>>148807416
Make your own golems and do some rounds of robot wars

>>148807772
Oh I will if I get there, but how am I gonna meme it up with turn 1 blind expansion ?

>>148808018
That's what you brought a dom10 E9 erf snek for, right?

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>>148808224
m-maybe

>>148806487
to be fair, I took this approach to diplomacy after getting attacked by 5 or 6 of the 12 other players in the game ... despite being maybe the third largest nation.

24 NATIONS

DER GOTTERDAMMERUNG DRAWS CLOSER

NOOBS, NOOBS WITH EXPERIENCE, A COUPLE HARDENED NOOBS

GET IN ANd GET STOMPED BY 300% EMPOWERED BATS

>>148811238
Where do bats start ?

>>148811238
I can't wait to have my cap sieged on turn 2

what nations are left for Der_Gotdammerung?

Haven't played for over a year, but never got super knowledgeable. I took a little under a third of a small map and was doing well, but noticed my dominion was going away and forgot about temples. Built one in most of the provinces but it never recovered. Do temples build up more the longer they exist or something? Not sure why it wasn't at least stopping my dominion loss

>>148812706
you need high candles in a province to stop enemy dom spread and increase the chances yours will spread. Temples are kind of exponentially effective.

>>148812532
TNN, Niefel, Pelagia and uh...I don't know.

>>148812882

Ah, so I should have started by building them outward from my main city rather than from my far territory inward like I did?

>>148813346
fuck it I'll take Agartha

>>148813849
Hope you'll crack the seal.

>>148813736
Maybe. If your provinces are blacked, just having a temple isn't solving the problem, and the checks might not happen in your favor, even if you have some praying on the side and you get a 100% check. Yeah, it's probably better the other way to flood your dominion progressively. It can be a bitch to reverse the situation in any case, depending on how much influence you lost overall.

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please don't become skeletons

>>148814735
>playing Agratha in EA memegame with increased everything
>not cracking the seal

/domg/ isn't that bad right?

>>148817714
I hope not, though if I get a god vessel on my turf I swear I will have no idea what to do

>>148818586
Just keep sending troops at it, God Vessels have a pre-set kill limit.

Thanks Bogarus, etc.

If only Pangaea was alive and didn't AI like a faggot...

Bogarus failed to storm you some turns ago and your statue could hold the line while the fort arrows destroyed his full army. Now AI Pan killed the siegers.

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>>148819786
Forgot image

>>148820020
Please tell me Bogarus is AI.

>>148820202
Nope, of course he isn't.
This is the second time he loses his Virtue to Pan.

2016-07-17 14:00:28 +0200
God & nation popup in global enchantment screen

2016-07-17 12:14:28 +0200
AI learned to cast a few more type of rituals
AI improved magic item distribution

2016-07-16 19:31:06 +0200
AI, forge less duplicate items

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>>148820305
I guess even in LA the ol' Pan still got it

>>148820020
>7 Commanders
>4 mounted commanders
>3 horse tribe chiefs
>22 militia
>a random zmey
>lost his god amongst all of that
What the fuck is going on

Waen was a good friend.

Rest in pieces.

I'm not actually sure what got him killed, it might have been a domkill, but i checked candles last turn and he had at least a few turns to live since my dominion doesn't spread that fast up north and provinces bordering his last dominion only have 1-2 candles.

>>148820020
>Unironically buying black hoods

I bet the Virtue noticed the trash that was brought with her and killed herself out of embarrassment.

>>148820020
How the actual fuck

>>148821542
It's AI so odds are swarm spam.

>>148820020
by the pantokrator. How retarded is that angel.

>>148820020
his virtue died again?

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>>148827615
STOP CASTING RIGHT NOW

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>>148827995
stop me.

But I'm one of you.

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Forgot my pic of cute skellies

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C'mon now, hold the fort you scrubs

this seems really hard to get into

>>148831870
Not really. Heared about "Dwarf Fortress"?

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>>148831870
It's less effort than other multiplayer strategy games

>>148831870
unlike your mom lol
But all shitty overused jokes aside, it is at the beginning, but it's fun and less complicated than it seems at first. All you have to do is sit back and relax while thinking of your next turn.

>>148831870
it's moderately easy to get into.
the interface and the commands are clear, so you just have to learn the basic strategy to get started.

>>148831870
Once you understand the basics behind logistics and magic it's actually quite simple. Once you're comfortable with the basics it becomes an arms race of innovation and creativity. That or spam meme-strategies until you win.

Do you guys send in-game messages as RP or just go all "yo dawg dat nigga stole my throne let's fuck him up"?

>>148833267
both

>>148833267
I'd like to write RP-messages, at least from time to time, but my scarce knowledge of English won't allow me.
So I am RPing as a drunken, illiterate russian.

>>148833267

Sometimes I start RP but as the game progresses and there is more stuff to do I lose the will to continue with it...

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Have you done your part to remove elves today ?

Half an hour left on the 75% Dom4 sale:

http://www.gamersgate.com/DD-DOM4TA-STEAM/dominions-4-thrones-of-ascension

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Found this when scripting, is it just an unfinished spell or something?

>>148838712

Its the 'life for life' blood spell, not sure why it sometimes appears this way.

>>148838985
Mods cause it

quick. give me a pretender for MA ermor blitz.

>>148839840
A4E4S6D6 lich queen

>>148839840
Any of the Cirno's Sauro builds.

>>148840173

Maximum MEme

>>148820710
You killed me ya bass.

[Spoiler]My only regret is thinking Aran would keep his word when making a coalition against Nicknight.

>>148848227
>Phone messes up spoiler tag
I now have two regrets.

Post memes to fight off the skeletons.

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>>148854913

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FUCKING HELL

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Is this fahnny joek?

>>148857171
Seems legit.

>>148857171
>25 Astral Pearls for a Lantern
They're 5 damn fire gems. It would be cheaper to empower a mage into fire and make them. Unless Mari has a ridiculous lead in research, or there are literally no other fire nations in the game, it's an insult to capitalism.

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>>148855578
I'm fucking melting, Illwinter plz

>>148857171
I'd be tempted to attack Marg for sending such an insulting offer

>>148857405
R U niefelheim?

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>>148857405

>>148857739
Abysia is fucking on fire.

>>148857739
*external screaming*
>>148857720
If I was I'd cast Illwinter.

>>148858103
Caelum?
LA Atlantis?

>>148857369
There's no other major fire nations in the game, but it's still pretty ridiculous.

>>148858314
>No other fire nations
>Fucking Abysia exists

>>148858314
Even someone with an F1 random would work.

I mean holy hell, either Mari's insulting everyone, desperate for cash, or has no idea how an economy works.

>>148858498
Remove Ermor and all Ermor offshoots.

>>148858456
You're thinking of the wrong game, that's NoBones

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Some of you meatbags are alright.

Don't go to Aldgold next month.

Does Luck stack?

I got a weapon with luck, two items with luck and bless that gives luck. Should I put them all on a SC and send him to the casino?

>>148858824
No.

>>148859025
Fucking illfraud won't let me make a Pocoloco build.

>>148858824
>bless that gives luck
That's not actually luck, it's twist fate.

It'll stack with luck.

>>148859760
Good enough I guess, I'll give him a shroud.

>>148860412
Just warning you, twist fate only works for one attack.

It's not really worth using a shroud for.

>>148860948
Does it also works for spells?

>>148861014
Twist Fate negates the first instance of damage your unit takes, so it'll work against spells which do damage.

>>148861014
It works against the death bite of the devourer of souls, so when the luck pendant was autocasting twist fate each turn it completely stonewalled the poor doggo.

If you give a pretender a Shroud, does it work?

Why aren't pretenders affected by their own bless to begin with?

>>148863916
I just tested it, it doesn't work.

>>148811238
Triggered.
It should be Die Götterdämmerung

>>148858676
Screencapping this.

>>148865550
Only 3 more to go. Lanka, Niefelheim, and Therados.

I for one welcome a memegame that isn't currently just waiting to be won by either bats or cancer.

>>148870405
No-one took Lanka yet? Really?

>>148870570
They're scared because they will have borders with Kailassa and Machaka, who will obviously rush them with 300% stuff.

>>148870893
>Getting rushed by EA Machaka
Truly there is no more terrifying fate.

>>148870893
Lanka is also next to Abysia, which might be an issue maybe.

Apparently.

>>148871186
Rushed by La R'lyeh?

This is starting to sound like Seduced by the Gay Centaur Necromancer/so such.

>>148871894

Oh yea thats ass for Lanka with their fire weakness. Plus they can only get so many sacreds then its monkeys while Abysia can drown them in heavy infantry.

>>148871894
Is there a good connection that way though? I thought they were just geographically close but separated by water.

>>148870893
>bordered by Machaka

Holy shit. How will Lanka possibly survive? Machaka beats them in every conceivable way.

>>148871186
Can we wait until the next Machaka nerf? There's no point starting now, Machaka is going to win no matter what we do.

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-Distant sounds of underwater chuckling-

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For your viewing pleasure.

I didnt anticipate this battle, only brought whatever troops I had in the area to go and siege C'tis, had minimal mage support and like only three spells scripted. Fortunately my troops proved to be better. Unfortunately I suffered massive losses...

>>148872798
>Outmage and outgem the opposing army
>Only what you brought to fight C'tis
Geeze dude, your victory is as phyric as they come.

>>148873507

As I mentioned I didnt expect him to move there or to move at all, we were at peace the previous turn.

Also I only have a 40A dai tengu, he has more gems in summons and more mages. I have more research tho.

>>148873507
>>148873827

Oh wait I totally forgot shikomes are actually summons. I wasnt using recruited onis all game. Yea, I had more summons I guess.

Shades are from a site tho.

>>148870893
>300% more markataas


DESIGNATED

>>148870405
>>148811238

i AM abysia in gotterdammerung.
if someone wants it i can trade with niefelhim, they are both cool to me.
i want the game to start! it's gonna be my second game ( i joined another a week ago), i hope i'll do well.

Fomoria, Rlyeh, Yomi, can you guys come to the steam chat to talk? I believe you are the only ones I havent spoken to yet.

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We should make bets on who's the first to die.Just to crush their hopes

>>148876276
I'm too lazy to count it, which nations are left?

>>148828949
You lost that game, Coolstory ;^)

>>148877386
Nations fall but memes live forever.

>>148878897
That so? You don't mind if I post some dancing banana man then I suppose.

>>148877386
Not even my game, senpai.

>>148877146
Just Lanka, Niefel, and Therados.

>>148885503
Therodos isn't included in Archea.

3 MORE NATIONS

SPOOPY GREEK GHOSTS

BLOOD MONKEYS

ICE GIANTS

BADMIN CONFIRMED, AT LEAST 14 STALES TURN 2 CONFIRMED, A GAME THAT WILL LAST FOR AT LEAST HALF A YEAR CONFIRMED, GET IN OR GET THE FUCK OUT

>>148886060
Don't use Therodos. If you use it, it can spawn anywhere because it has no fixed start.

>>148886060
I hope it doesn't start before Saturday! I am out of the country and away from my computer and I have joined.

>>148885683
It is. Who do you think spawn SE of Crete?

>>148886183
sounds great to me, someone pick em fast!

>>148887287
Shit man, I don't know. I can't even pick them while setting up a game, so I just assumed they were disabled. I guess I have the wrong version of the map.

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You guys have Der_Gott Lanka's situation all wrong. Machaka and Abyssia are nowhere near them. The monkeys can't even really rush them without exposing themselves to Yomi or the Birds. The only thing they really have to worry about is Atlantis or Kai making a deal.

>>148889562
Look at the ports. Abysia's like 4-5 moves away from Lanka. Mind, Machaka has to use the same port, so only one of them can come.
>>148886183
I'll tell AY Ermor he got thrashed by a nation that couldn't exist then.

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I need subs.

I've had a shitty change in circumstances that means I no longer have much time to play games anymore. So much so that I've been rushing all my turns and making serious blunders, and I can't even get any diplomacy done, which is killing my enjoyment. So I am looking for subs so that I can cut down on my games into something which is hopefully a bit more manageable and won't make me want to kill myself.

Anyone who is interested in the following games:

LAte to the party Bogarus: Despite an endless march of misfortune I'm in a very strong position, and whoever takes over should have an easy enough time achieving harmony and contentment.

SansMemes Sauromatia: I have a lot shiny things, but you'll have a hard time since Yomi has pretty much won.

NoBullyingAllowed Bogarus: lol

Admins, help me out getting the subs sorted out here please.

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>>148889987
Well, I feel bad for Lanka now.

>>148889562
Holy shit, lanka is in a shitty position. I'll sign up.

>>148811238
When does this start? I don't want to wait forever.

>>148892265
We just need a Niefel and a Thera, and we're good.

>>148892265
Saturday, weekend start so the wageslaves don't stale for at least a single turn

>>148893791
And if they never join?

>>148889562
Why the fuck is Caelum placed in Taiwan and not Iran?

>>148894439
>>148893881
what if we add them as AI?

at least we know we gotta rush their neighbours elves because they got free provinces, but 3x gold AI shoul dkeep them busy for some time.

>>148894504
Err, tibet, sorry, tired.

>>148894439
draft lambert to play therodos.

>>148896607
I'm already in the sodding game this time, can't fool me twice

>>148896985
Switch to Therodos

its your favorite

>>148876276
Mictlan is next to Xibalba. So yeah. Probably them.

>>148899332
Mictlan seriously needs to consider just going to Xib's cap on turn 3. I'd even give him money for that.

NATGEN PYGMY BLITZ
INCLUDING SWAN CHARIOTS, FEAR THE SIZE 2 TRAMPLERS.


http://blitzserver.net/matches/view/576
https://www.dropbox.com/s/34oy7rqtwl2dsuu/nationgen_vale_of_the_aerieMk3.zip?dl=0

>>148893881
Fuck that, im a wageslave and can do my turns. Start once its full.

>>148899505
Take a W9B4 Dom9 awake dragon and cap xibalba's shit.

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>Xibala is such a balanced nation it requires coordination to be taken down before the game even starts

If this game is summod, I'll play Thed. If not, I don't see the point. Vanilla Thed is undoubtedly and by far the worst nation in the game atm.

>>148901828
It's summod.

>>148901745
Well yes, it's like MA Ermor with better freespawn, better research, and better lategame, and flying+stealth.

No nation even begins to compare, especially since the settings hit Lanka far harder than Xibalba.

im new be kind. Ive started with paradox games and my slow journey into learning more and more indepth 4x games. How long would it take to learn this game ? Looks super interesting.

>>148902092
Oh. Well then.

>>148902453
This is not a 4X game, it's a wargame.

You can learn basic stuff from tutorial in the manual.

You'll need 1000+ hours of multiplayer to git gud though.

>>148902453
It doesn't take that long to figure out the fundamentals, a singleplayer game or two at most.
The complex stuff starts when you play multiplayer.

>>148902453
Well, learn to what level? To be able to win games here? Not very long, here be scrubs.

General advice is do some SP (6 months is a meme for a reason, not that much), then jump into multiplayer and probably lose. Then jump in again and again, given only 1 in 12 in a game win, you'll probably learn enough to win before your twelth game.

>>148902613
oh shit not a 4x game ? So is it mainly just about battles and unit compositions ?

>>148902686
Yup.

A little more to it than that, of course, but for the sake of expedience, if you're looking for 4X games, this isn't one.

>>148902346
You forgot no popkill and easy access to Blood Magic, the best path in the game.

>>148902646
>>148902665
>>148902862
I had no idea this game was actually competitively online. I thought it was more of a SP experience. How long does the average MP game last?

>>148903134
Months is normal, it's turn based play by email, we have a snazy server called llamaserver (we as in dominions 4 peeps). However for short games with direct connect, there's now our (as in /domg/ the thread) blitzserver by MoggyMogs which last about 4 hours or so.

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>>148903134
If a blitz, meaning a game that is started from a group of people who are around and is played turn-by-turn at a quick pace, it largely depends on the number of players, but 4-7 hours is common for a game with 6 or so players.

If a PBEM, where everybody does 1-2 turns a day and sends/recieves them via email, games can and do last for many months.

They're both very different playstyles, but skills learned do transfer over. The difference mainly lies in the fact that during a PBEM you have a whole ton of time to theorycraft and calculate your moves, while during a blitz you need to make snap decisions and play relatively quickly, or people will start bullying you.

There's a LOT to learn about the game, and a reasonably active meta that tends to reward innovative strategy to avoid becoming stale.

>>148903407
>>148905181
On that note, blitz matches are being played pretty much daily these days. Just go to the group chat an keep an eye out for a match.

What are the most interesting factions to play as?

Not a question about competitiveness or anything, just having the most interesting design because of gimmicks/unique features

>>148909934
The most interesting faction is the one you look at and think "there's something here no-one seems to get, let's see if it works"

>>148909934
I dunno, that's pretty hard to answer.

There are a lot of factions, and all of them have at least a few interesting things they can do, or interesting strategies to use. The ones which stick out as especially gimmicky are MA Ermor, LA Lemuria, MA Asphodel, LA R'lyeh, and LA Ragha (But only if you play them as they are meant to be played, and don't just tempstack.)

>>148909934

I'd say that the most recent ones are up there: Lanka, Ragha, Xibalba, Asphodel, Nazca, Therodos

Hey guys, I'm shit at strategy games, I've got 5 hours in Dominions 4, and haven't played since 8/3/15. Should I get back into the game? Am I a lost cause? Can I git gud?

>>148917529
>Can I git gud?

No.

Join the club. Everyone is scrubs.

>>148917529
You should get into the game, but you're not gonna git gud for a bit.

>Awake amphibious expander
We don't need T-Therodos guys.

>>148917529
We should really change the OP to these threads. The game really isn't half as rough as it's made out to be. If you know how to recruit units and tell your infantry to go up front while your mage throws fireballs you're ready to play your first online game. After getting your ass kicked once or twice there you'll be absolutely fine. Where would you say you're at in learning? I really can't stress enough how simple the game is once you learn a few basic things.

>>148901828
>>148902587

Just waiting on you, senpai.

Can someone post the Archaea with starts picture?

>>148924003
Anyone?

>Meme Bats don't post scoregraphs
>Gets blinded

Justice was served.

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>>148924003
>>148925550
It's something like this but with the UW nations moved around and various other things.

Are there any spells that prioritize the sieging army instead of the defending one?

>>148928041
I was wondering this too. If I cast Mind hunt at a besieged fort I don't own, will it hit both besiegers and defenders?

>>148922710
>tell your infantry to go up front while your mage throws fireballs
That strategy wouldn't even work well for most nations, and it becomes increasingly less relevant the further into the game you get.

>>148930709
I know that, what I meant was basic scripting.

>>148899525
>no summod

into the trash it goes!

also
>blitzing a nationgen game

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>ded

A question for you mathemagicians out there.

When I'm fighting a unit with 17 Defense, would it be better to have two attacks at 22 Attack each, or one attack at 25 Attack, assuming each separate attack did similar damage?

My gut says two attacks would be better, but I'm not sure how significant the extra Attack score would be.

>>148934774
Two, of course. First is 22v17, second 22v15. Both are probably going to hit.

>>148934774
To add to what >>148934856 said, even if you ignore the defense reduction from multiple attacks two attacks is better.

One attack at 25 vs 17 has a 92% chance to hit.

Two attacks at 22 vs 17 has a 97% chance to hit at least once, with a good chance (66%) of hitting twice.

AGARTHA DO YOUR TURN

>>148936690
No.

>>148936770
DO YOUR TURN AND MAYBE I WILL HELP YOU TAKE BACK YOUR CAPITAL.

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Who /patala/ here?

>>148938312
I want to like Patala, but they're too cap-centric for me. If even one of their Naga mages (I don't even care which one) was recruitable outside of their cap, I'd probably love them.

>>148938391
Patala is so trash it's like playing on hard mode.

>>148938456
I wouldn't go that far. Their troops are garbage and all of their good mages are cap-only, but their good mages are still really good, their national magic is pretty good as well, and they've got lots of cheap communion fodder.

>>148890018

If anyone wants to sub for a Sauromantia in a good position respond.

>>148938456
You are enormously underestimating the value of having cheap communion slaves. If Marignon, for example, got a 60 gold 1 resource out-of-cap S1 mage it'd instantly become a top lategame nation. Which is impressive, since it has basically only two paths.

>>148939209
MA Mari infuriates me because it's such a shitty nation with such cool lore that's so, so close to being good. Literally just give Initiates S1. Literally just give their cap some better S income. Literally just give them a reliable N2 mage. They're so almost good.

>>148939139
>Sauromantia in a good position
So he can be "in a good position" for a few more turns until Yomi wins the game?

>>148939524

He was untouched all game and has two caps, VW up and possibly tartarians, cant tell without scouts and no scouts because VW up.

Plus he has most elemental royalty and big armies and is in the middle of invading Kailasa.

How many forts should I generally aim to have before clashing with other nations?

>>148941734
It really depends. The ideal number is the one that makes you comfortable, or when you built the ones you wanted on your territory and seek to expand on your neighbor's turf.
That said you may not get what you want, be attacked, have to attack someone or the greater good, or maybe you wanna blessrush a scrub ?
I can't give you a number, but if you really want to attack someone at some point, do it when you have enough forts to produce troops and mages in enough quantities so you may keep researching and ferry units to the front to replenish your forces.

>>148942443
I was expecting someone to burn.

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http://www.llamaserver.net/gameinfo.cgi?game=Der_Gotterdammerung


29/30 NATIONS IN.

ONLY THEREDOS MISSING ( DOES IT EVEN HAVE A STARTING POSITION ON THIS SHITTY MAP!?).
GET HYPE.

>>148941734
while defending a farm or fort is good if your troops don't have high mobility you generally don't want more fort than mages/turn you can continually recrit and not less of that.

>>148942650
Just start without Thed.

>>148942650
Thanks to all the brave souls who picked the shittiest nations to fill in the spots.

And special thanks to Lanka and Mictlan who'll get memerushed in the first 5 turns.

>>148939413
Witch Hunters at least aren't expensive upkeep-wise, only their initial cost. If I'm rich as hell as Marignon I recruit mountains of Witch Hunters and use them as my every-turn recruit in my forts. You can only do this for so long but massing a decent amount of them isn't impossible. S1 initiates while awesome would push Marignon too hard the other way and make them unstoppable. You just wouldn't need Grand Masters in battles anymore because you could just have a few Witch Hunters backed by spammable communion-chaff to cast high-level fire stuff.

>>148942650
Damn this thing has been picking up some pace. Are we starting as soon as we have a full roster or are we using a set time to avoid half the nations staling out instantly?

>>148943186
t-thanks, pls be gentle sempai

>>148943353
Good points, but I counter it by noting that Pythium is at best high middle tier with all those advantages to the max and then some.

Can I I get a 12h extension? Going to need some extra time/

>>148939413
>reliable N2 mage
Why is this important for Maringon? I'm out of the loop.

>>148946607
Literally all of their mages are ANCIENT (almost 80 with a 40 year maxage on both their best mages) and they have no nature access.

As a nation that's supposed to be able to counter undead nations.

Caelum, that sounds fine. Does 36 D for three sound reasonable?

>>148946409
Go to the game page on llama server, the admin's steam deets are listed there. It's better to contact him like that.

>>148947082
Still don't get it. Wouldn't a B2 be better?

>>148949007
Extremely un-thematic for Mari, and N has a lot of good options to combat old age for the entire nation, namely some globals, summons and items.

>>148947082
>they have no nature access
Just recruit some N1 indies. That's all you need for bags of wine, and it's pretty cheap to go from N1 to N2.

>>148949104
>Extremely un-thematic for Mari
They end up turning to blood magic to beat ermor. Them having blood magic is way more thematic than nature, though ideally it'd require research so you can't access it until lategame.

>N has a lot of good options to combat old age for the entire nation, namely some globals, summons and items
N2 has access to absolutely none of those, unless I'm missing something big.

i would like to talk with Der_Gotterdammerung bats. i am in steamchat.

>>148949662
N2 lets you get into Nature, it doesn't give you instant access. From there you can boost up very easily. Also, they eventually turn to Blood magic which makes them into their LA nation almost-instantly and they were a 100% Nature nation with a little astral before.

>>148949995
>N2 lets you get into Nature, it doesn't give you instant access. From there you can boost up very easily
No shit, Sherlock. While you are still 'boosting up', Ermor with D9N9B9 will put on GoH, Mother Oak and generally whatever he likes.
And N1-2 mage you can recruit literally anywhere in the wilderness.

>>148943186

Who is rushing me?
>>148942650
Thed isn't even on this map. Just start without them.

>>148949995
>N2 lets you get into Nature, it doesn't give you instant access. From there you can boost up very easily.
You need a minimum of N5 to reach disease cures. I can't see a way up there beyond empowering twice, unless you also give them access to moonvine bracelet.

Plus you already have a way into nature. N1 indies are everywhere.

>they were a 100% Nature nation with a little astral before.
They came from Marverni, conquered by Ermor, right?

Marverni is more astral than nature, but I suppose you could make an argument for some of the gutaters still being around.

>>148950395
Sorry, but Pangaea has dibs on Mother Oak and GoH. Otherwise you are right, getting a N indie does is easy and does the job.

>>148950562
It's funny. All these people obviously weren't in the first Archaea game, which very much did have a Therodos, who very much does have a start IF YOU DOWNLOAD THE RIGHT MAP VERSION.

>>148951494
Which is?

>>148951713
The one I have from last game.

>>148952363
Post it instead of being an insufferable shitter, then.

>>148952653
http://www.google.com/search?q=dominions++4+archaea+map+therodos&oq=dominions++4+archaea+map+therodos&gs_l=mobile-heirloom-serp.3...6528.45202.0.46265.43.32.2.1.1.1.1387.8051.5j19j2j1j0j2j2j1.32.0....0...1c.1.34.mobile-heirloom-serp..29.14.3053.lyMIPhTnhEg

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pfffft

>>148953741
Thug lyfe.

>>148953741
Needs more wolves.

>>148953741

Clap clap you beat my shitty chaff.

Remember when you lost 8 vanjarls trying to beat that dai oni and then you had to use 19 seeking arrows to finally do it? Now that was real pathetic wasnt it.

So enjoy your 5 vs 1 victory while I enjoy my obvious superiority.

>>148954798
>being this anal blasted

Calm down, son.

>>148954798
pshhh... kidd.... no tears.... only dreams now,,,,

>>148954798
Is this the fabled Malakal and his famous anal pain?

I'm pretty much getting screwed, is sending hordes of mages with Horror Mark and then summoning some abominations enough to make the fucker remember me after death?

What else can I do to be as big of a dick as possible?

>>148955890
Lots of things
Black servants with bane venom charms
spamming rituals like black death that kill population in provinces
raiding provinces with small numbers of troops + mages

It will depend on the paths you have, but most nations have at least a few ways of being really annoying if they're not going to win anyway

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I'm dead

>>148957390
Wanna pool a dispel for second sun ? Before I melt away ?

>>148957898
Overcast Illwinter whilst you're at it

>>148957963
>tfw I'm not Niefelheim

>>148957963
It's too hot to hunt for virgins.

>>148958767
I volunteer, it's too hot here as well

>>148957390
Lol that's only 88F. We have a high of 39 today. 102F

>>148958819
That's what you get for living in Machaka.

>>148958819
Just reading that makes me sweat.

>>148958889
I always identified the South with Abysia for some reason.

>>148959147
If anything, it's closest to Xibalba and Mictlan.

>>148959147
>crossbreeding

>>148959265
I think it's the sunburns. Mississippian/gulf coast native nation when?

>>148957390
JUST

>>148957390
Don't worry fellow Britbong, it's supposed to cool down tommorow, and then we're forecast to be back to 21~ degrees for the foreseeable future.

Just one more day.

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>be Abysian
>enjoy the warm weather while staying hydrated with some sweet melons
Life is good in the Smouldercone

>>148960525
>Not watermelon

Garbage

>>148960624
I'm not Machakan.

>>148960525
I knew something was missing from my summer experience. Why do I never think of melons ?

>>148961052
Hopefully you don't live in Japan where they're $30.

>>148961273
I live in France, should be cheap enough, and fresh.

>>148960660
I bet you deprive yourself of fried chicken, too.

>>148961958
After centuries of deprivation, machakan culture is decedent and hedonistic, so while their cultural objects and behaviors are enjoyable in moderation, care must be taken while partaking or you might get nerfed.

I just bought the game, any tips for a newcomer?

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:3c

>>148962593
1. Read the manual.
2. Play the tutorial.
3. After 2-3 SP games join a noob PBEM.

That's basically it.

>>148962593
Read the manual.
Read the wiki.
Read the pastebin.
Watch some LPs by Maerlande or NuclearMonkee.
Play six months of singleplayer games.
Start playing multiplayer games.

>>148962593
>>148962684
4. get rekt
5. repeat from step 3 onwards

Also, don't get discouraged, and don't hesitate to ask for advice here.

>>148962684
>>148962752
>>148962840
Many thanks

Still looking for a sauro sub, waiting in chat.

>>148890018
>NoBullyingAllowed Bogarus: lol
Well, yeah. But you still have those 3 or 4 ice devils and a huge stack of troops doing nothing since turn 40.
Anyway, I'm in chat if someone's interested in taking over.

>>148963739

Seems like no one wants to sub, if Sauro is the last I will force host.

Granted without Sauro this is fairly over I'd say.

I am looking for a Sub for Y's in Ermor OP as I'll be unable to play any longer.

I am going to go into surgery tonight and will not be able to participate in this game for some time so it's best you find a replacement for me.

>>148890018
>>148965975
Sub found.

>>148967191
I've been wanting to try Ys in a pbem. I was BL but subbed out due to time constraints, but I've had some games end since. Too bad the map is so ugly, how's your position?

So, this turn AC got dispelled once again. That makes it 3 (three) ACs dispelled by the nation casting it - the only blood nation still in the game - while R'lyeh has Nexus and another gemgen.

Seriously, Aby, what are you doing?

>>148968982
It sounds like he's killing the caster rather than dispelling it.

>>148969330
First time he did that for sure, he teleported Ashmedai at me. Don't know what happened with 2nd and 3rd AC, but I'm pretty sure R'lyeh didn't bother with dispelling it.

Still, I have no idea what's going on and that's why I'm asking - what's the point?

While I'm not even in your game, my mad hypothesis is that if he's putting it back up the turn afterwords, he's hoping to bait gem usage to actually get kills with his horrors. If he's not putting it up right away, then what he might be doing is taking it down, using his gems for the items/rituals that he wants, and then putting it back up.

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Live!

Anyone have summod testimony to share? What do you're favorite nations feel like?

>>148971406
Helheim is a fucking dream to play with summod. It becomes so much more than simply a slightly worse Vanheim.

>>148971406
Blessfrogs. Better Mannikin/Mandroga summoning. Nerfed Bats.

>>148971895
I've seen this repeated a few times here. Is it the same two people being active, or have a lot of people tried them out?

>>148967191
Good luck with mate, I can't sub though.

>>148972515
Either somebody is responding to themself, or there are at least 3 of us.

I also like how hinnom, ma machaka, ma xibalba, and ma ermor turned out.

>>148973272

Specifically, hinnom's melqart, rephaite, and kohen buffs made them much more usable, so you get to express the cannibal giant element, instead of them being third fiddle to avvites.

Ma xibalba's toads are now worthwhile, with bats acting as sort of auxiliary units.

Machaka is playable with prof scale hoplite's, slothgold flaming javelin hordes, or a bless. I like magic scale witchdoctors as auxiliary mage support.

>>148971895
It really is a lot of fun. The helkarl change is very nice and while I haven't gotten to use my Draugr yet they seem like they'll be great.

>>148976217
Have you started spamming corpse constructs?

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>he needs scales

>>148971406
The UW nations with aquatic commanders have two huge changes: fish amulets that only require water to forge and a mass fish amulet spell that gives 5 amulets for cheap. It makes getting onto shore a whole lot easier.

>>148977640
Working on it

How to kill lategame Caelum?

>>148987409
What Era?

>>148987409

Seems easy enough doesnt it, what are you struggling with?

I am susceptible to RoS, but have GoH & Tarts

>>148989526
If you have Tarts, you're not susceptible to RoS, desu.