Dueling Network General - /dng/

First for cardfus

>>148642603
This looks so bad. It's like we went back to DM artworks but with background.

>>148642601
Ace Ventura?

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So we /meninblack/ now?

Normal Spell Card
“Casting out the Darklords” can only be activated once per turn.
(1) Add 1 “Darklord” or “Fallen One” card from your Deck to your hand, except “Casting out the Darklords”


so nurse burn is meta now?

Hints on SPYRAL effects

Main agent-ish guy: "he'd beat stratos up in a bar fight", "he rewards you for using information correctly", "some of the other cards will revolve round this particular card", "main card of the deck"

Scientist guy: "machine dupe is bananas with this", "you gonna want multiples of this"

Drone thingy: "works very well with the agent guy", "gives you information and surprise bonuses", "you wanna play this before our agents because it will make your agents better"

Car: "I think this is a very powerful card", "It doesnt just work with the agent, but also with the other spyrals", "there is a forbidden card with a similiar effect"

>>148642691
Is this the new Baccano! TCG?

So hand-peeking/ set card-peeking archetype?

>>148642942
So SPYRAL is meta while Subterror is the petdeck.
Makes sense since these hints are basically Tewart copying banned cards for effects

>>148642942
Add any card with SPYRAL in its name or text from your deck to your hand?

The Car might be something to do with Delinquent Duo.

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Just like one of my japanese card games.
>>>148642942
>"he'd beat stratos up in a bar fight", "he rewards you for using information correctly", "some of the other cards will revolve round this particular card", "main card of the deck"
Shitty hard OPT search, something to do with the opponent's hand/extra deck or graveyard, DRAW IT OR DIE.dek
>Scientist guy: "machine dupe is bananas with this", "you gonna want multiples of this"
Can change the type of one monster on the field to machine, probably
>Drone thingy: "works very well with the agent guy", "gives you information and surprise bonuses", "you wanna play this before our agents because it will make your agents better"
Lets you check the opponent's hand/ED, probably a continuous or field spell
>Car: "I think this is a very powerful card", "It doesnt just work with the agent, but also with the other spyrals", "there is a forbidden card with a similiar effect"
>it doesn't work well with the main piece of the deck
It's shit with a situational draw 2 effect like capture mission

>>148642920
That seems scary, and fun at the same time. Dies to D'Arc though.

>>148642942
>he rewards you for using information correctly
Bait Doll tier

>some of the other cards will revolve round this particular card
Flag for shit tier archetype

>machine dupe is bananas with this
Why the hell is fuccboi a fucking machine

>works very well with the agent guy
AKA can't work w/o agent

>you wanna play this before our agents because it will make your agents better
AKA agents is shit w/o this

>there is a forbidden card with a similiar effect
... Construct? Since it's a car and all.

>>148643264
>Can change the type of one monster on the field to machine, probably
I'm betting that he's a machine and works like Kozmo Tincan does for Kozmos.

>>148643264
>"It doesnt just work with the agent
Shit, misread it as "just doesn't work".
Change my guess to it being a monster that can equip itself and doubles as a butterfly dagger, but balanced since you gotta summon it and all

I hope SPYRALS are going to be primarily a rank 4 deck.

>>148642942
>It doesnt just work with the agent, but also with the other spyrals
Yet it has Agent in the cardwork.

>>148643556
I hope SPYRALS are going to be primarily a rank 5 deck.

>>148642942
>there is a forbidden card with a similiar effect
What I want: Brio effect
What I realistically want: Heavily restricted Mind master
What It will be: Tribe infecting virus.

We know TDIL has 3 SPYRAL monsters and 1 spell
Which one is the spell, the car or the drone?

>>148643768
Drone for sure.

>>148643556
No, fuck this, I want every generic rank 4 to be banned until rank 4 stops being playable.

FREE BRONAC
GIVE US ANOTHER GOOD LV 6 SYNCHRO BESIDES GOYO

Spy dude looks like a LV3 if I ever saw one

>>148642942
>there is a forbidden card with a similiar effect
It can't be Confiscation, right? Even though it fits the information thingy.

>>148643768
The spell is probably the car; actually, considering that you want Machine Dupe with the scientist, maybe the Scientist lets you change its name to another SPYRAL monster's name and type by sending it from the deck to the graveyard, and the effect of the Drone is something good.

>>148643885
>what is coral dragon

>>148643885
Coral Dragon

What if Spyral is a shit archetype?

>expecting SPYRAL to be anything but gimmicky shit after the disappointment of Subterrors

>>148643885
Stardust Charge Warrior and Coral Dragon isn't enough?

>>148643264
How cute!

>>148644004
Subterrors will probably be the meta TCG archetype while SPYRAL(still lmaoing at that one autist who thought the had any relation because HURR HIDDEN CITY HAS A SPIRAL ON IT) is the UA/Kaiju archetype that is mainly for fun

>>148643951
>>148643968
It's Brionac-lite, like Gungnir.

>>148644124
>high level flip monsters
>meta
el
oh
el

>>148644045
I expect them to float, because you know, all the good TCG stuff floats.

>>148644236
Screencap this.

>>148644124
Kaijus are actually used in meta decks though.
Also
>high level flip monsters
>ever meta

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>>148644236
>>148644352
Just like Shaddolls were shit too right ;^)

>>148644442
Shaddolls float. Subterrors don't.
Shaddolls primarily rely on their extra deck monsters. Subterrors don't.

>>148644442
>level 5 is high level
Lol

>>148644442
Beast is the only high level flip Shaddoll monster. Also, Shaddolls float when sent to the graveyard. Do Subterrors float?

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>>148644280
hopefully it will be relevant to post this in a few months.

>>148644534
Not that I think Subterrors will be meta, but
>subterrors don't float
You've seen one monster. How do you know others might not float?

>>148644568
>>148644534
Do Subterror has other cards? No?
If the only shaddoll revealed is Shaddoll Core and Shaddoll Hound, will you also say this?

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is it just me or that chest part look similar to odd-eyes chest ?

>>148644454
A week from now you'll be able to channel your inner Kaiba and win worlds next month.
Assuming Metalphosis jank doesn't sack you.

>>148644786
>finally giving a high ATK gear engineer's effect
Fucking finally

>>148644786
It's the reactor's core.

>>148644786
Not just the chest. The face, too.
Holy shit.

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>tfw you realise you're dueling a DN migrant

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>>148644786
>>148645029
Is Yuya going to turn evil?

>>148645162
>Being proud of a top 4.

>>148645281
If that guy is telling the truth top 4 at a ycs is a big accomplishment.

>>148645215
>gear engineer
Was HITOTSU NI not enough enough of an indicator

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>>148645215
>yfw ancient-eyes gear fusion dragon

>>148645359
anon, call me a skeptic, but I do not think he's telling the truth.

>>148645359
>using qli's
>with no extra
I doubt he got past the first rounds

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>>148644786
>>148645029
>>148645215
>>148645417
>>148645396
Pls save this shit series

>>148645657
It was fine about 50 episodes in and then we DRAGGED ASS in the Synchro arc and then it started getting good again once we went to Xyz and Fusion and started getting some actual plot advancement and now its shit again and I dunno why

>>148645828
>now its shit again
I blame Kaito.

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>>148645828
Because of EGAO and how everyone just suddenly realises it's greatness

>>148644786
So I guess if you pop geartown with that new spell you can get a Enterblathnir?

>>148645657
Well, every protag has been evil at some point.

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>>148645987

>>148645987
Except Yusei who was only evil for 5 seconds in the manga and didn't even try a heel turn in the anime

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>>148645657
>evil Yuya
IT'S
HAPPENING

So SPYRALs are full fujo pandering. Figures.

>>148646086
>>148646098
>great archetype
>never evil
>best series
Why is Yusei so based?

>>148646193
>junk
>stardust
>"great archetype"
yeah yusei was totally great, I mean he didn't even need team 5d's help to win!! :^) what a perfect protagonist

>>148646129
You know it could also be a neat little clue for the anime showing that Academia will eventually steal the design for Odd-Eyes for their own gain. Reactor is probably a prototype

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>>148645987
>tfw haven't watched GX since it was dubbed and I was a kid
>tfw only got to supreme king arc and fucking loved it
>tfw don't think I could handle sitting throught the sub

I don't know if Arc-V has killed me, but I just can't bring myself to watch GX. I literally couldn't get past the OP. Supreme King was the best evil protag ever.

What the fuck do i do

>>148646129
Have any other whatever-eyes name of summon dragons been spoiled before they appeared in the show?

>>148645987
Yugi was never evil. Atem was just crazy after being locked in an evil Puzzle for 1,000 years but he slowly came to his senses.

>>148646351
Nope.

>>148646287
I was referring to Synchrons.

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>>148646193
Fucking this. Arc-V got close, but now it's horse shit compared to 5Ds.

The music, story and overall feels were fucking A+. Plus, it had KINGU

>>148646350
Don't watch GX. You'll realize that the show isn't as good as in your memories.

>>148646086
He would have been had they not chickened out with Z-ONE.

>>148646579
You're wrong.
ARC-V and 5D's suffered the same fate. Both became shit after ~70 episodes.

>>148646351
Crystal Wang was revealed like a week before it was shown in an episode.

But we knew it was coming ever since the next episode PV a week before that even.

>>148646579
>implying ever other series except DM is horseshit compared to 5Ds.
5Ds was the only series worthy to match DM and it helps that both had Kaz involved with the designs and the story.

>>148646193
>5Ds
>best series

Sure I guess. All of the YGO anime are pretty inconsistent and bad so being the best doesn't mean much. I will say the Fortune Cup was genuinely good. But 26 good episodes doesn't excuse the other 128 episodes and yes Dark Signers is overrated.

>>148645828
2 reasons.
A) this >>148645925
B) We've now run out of time so we need to rush the plot just to give HITOTSU NI maybe 2 episodes to explain/resolve.

>>148646708
the thing is though 5ds had a plot resolution at 64. Arc-V hasn't

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>>148646593
Thanks for the advice. I wasn't feeling it, but now I'll probs stay away.

>>148646708
5Ds went down after Signers, but it did NOT go to shit, like Arc-V. Sure the Z-ONE arc fucked a lot of things and I was really let down by not letting Z-ONE be future Yusei/Aki not dueling, but it still had good duels, music and resolution.

It's the least shit out of the shittest part of each series.

>>148646769
>this is what 5D's lovers actually believe
If anything, Zexal was the only series worth watching.

Last Train is GOAT.
And so is Believe in Nexus.
And Road to Tomorrow.
And Kizuna.

But Freedom is just "okay"

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>>148647009
>Zexal
>worth watching

>>148647009
you've got to put a little more effort in bait man

>>148646845
What are the Abyss Actor sekrit teks?
At the moment, Stygian Security is testing well but I want to know if there is some obscure interaction with a card I might have missed.

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>>148647009
>Zexal

I'll admit Zexal II made up for some of it, but not most of it. Plus the ending was dogshit.

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>>148646845
ARC-V still has 30/40 episodes left. It still has the chance to offer its followers a more satisfying ending than 5D's did.

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IIIIIII CAN SEE YOU CUMMING

>>148647180
>the ending was dogshit
What, do you think the ending of 5D's was any better?
Production values, story consistency, character development - Zexal was above every series in every domain, except DM. Only retarded nostalgiafags refuse to accept that fact.

So, at what moment Wil Yuya become evil and start using Ancient Gears?

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>>148647193
5ds' ending was fine.
Yusei's a giant Mary Sue but so was every other protagonist so he can be forgiven.
It ended the same way DSoD did, everybody moving on with their futures.

>>148646845
>2 episodes
He deserves more time than that after all of the teasing the writers have done.

>>148647301
>do you think the ending of 5D's was any better?
It was GX's ending again but more fleshed out.
And GX had a good ending.

>>148647317
When he hits the heroic BSOD. A heroic BSOD can be caused by many things:
- Complete and utter defeat
- The death of a close one
- The sight of your ideals being cruelly trampled on

>>148646845
Is there any reason none of the protags from the other shows have shown up in Arc-V?

>>148647362
They never even showed Yusei's future though.

>>148647363
he deserves it but we're getting to a point where unless the next series is Arc-V II, we'll get the reveal at max 5 episodes left and resolve it with 1-2 left.

>>148647362
None of the protagonists are as bad as Yusei. Stop trying to defend him.
God itself helped him win his duels.

>>148647362
And Yusei moving on inside of Aki. That was a definite plus.

>>148647554
My bet is they're all carded and Reiji has them.

>>148646579
>Spoiler
But Arc-V's Kingu is actually a Kingu unlike the jobber with staged matches that he was in 5Ds.

>>148647193
That was probably the shittiest thing they did with the ending, but its YGO, what did you expect? Everything else ended perfectly, with maybe the exception Jack vs Yusei, which should have been a tie.

If you think Arc-V will end better than 5Ds, you're mistaken. The Yuzu! Yuya! thing will end in a hug, if that, and maybe his family will all become entertainers. Also, I guarantee that he'll somehow merge the dimensions so that everyone lives in one dimension in harmony. That's literally it.

EGAO FOR THE WIN

>>148647301
Zexal's ending was shit, don't start this. I sat throught the whole 2 seasons/arcs and when they brought everyone back just to fly off into the sunset, I lost all respect for it.

5Ds had a good ending. Besides, how was I nostalgia fagging? I watched up until the Signers arc dubbed when I was a kid, and only rewatched the whole thing subbed 2 yrs ago.

>>148647604
>5 tuners with Shooting Star
>Everytime

>DM's ending
Atem moved on and Kaiba killed himself to follow him.
Everybody graduated and is moving on with their futures
>GX 's ending
Judai graduated and went to travel the world after learning how to enjoy duels again
>5ds's ending
Everybody moves on with their various futures free of the Signer responsibilities
>Zexal's ending
They all fly to help Astral.
Which ending was the best?

>>148647554
Because it's distasteful.

>>148647604
I still don't know how his team got past the Aesir God Cards. That was absolute horse shit.

>>148647591
Everyone's already on their way to Academia so as long as the writers avoid as much bullshit filler as they can, a decent resolution can be done.

>>148647604
>Not liking an uncorruptably guy who can duel for 5 seconds without screaming EGAO

>>148647674
>The Yuzu! Yuya! thing will end in a hug, if that, and maybe his family will all become entertainers. Also, I guarantee that he'll somehow merge the dimensions so that everyone lives in one dimension in harmony. That's literally it.
Wow. You clearly know what you're talking about.
Are you part of ARC-V's writing team?

>>148647604
>Atem can draw anything he wants
>Judai has bullshit luck and can talk to Spirits
>Yuma can make any card he wants and controls Chaos
>Yuya is the vessel of Darkness and his Pendulum creates cards for him.
How is Yusei worse than this?

>>148647702
Definitely not Zexal. Everything else is more or less the same. It just depends on which series you like more. Although Kaiba killing himself is something no one expected so extra points to Kaz.

>>148647554
some people thought up the theory that Arc-V takes place because through magic bullshit the main characters have been erased from existence which leads to the differences the worlds have from each other If you want to go full meme, some people were thinking it might be because of the numeron code,

>>148647828
Yes

>>148647657
Yeah, the only reason I can't get behind Arc-V's Kingu is because this.

NOW HEAR IN THE KINGU'S HEART BEAT: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ibHU7K2mnVg

>>148647835
Do you want me to find that screencap with Aki saying that Yusei literally doesn't need team 5D's and can win by himself, or are you okay?

>>148648019
So?

>>148647702
DM's sucks post DSoD, which I haven't seen yet so I can't judge it. GX has a pretty good ending, with that final duel between Judai and Yugi. 5D's feels the most 'final', though. Wraps everything up in a lovely package, which would've been a lot more satisfying if it was more of an ensemble piece instead of Yusei having 80% of the duels to himself.

I never saw Zexal.

>>148648019
>implying any protag needed friends

Each of them are OP fucks, stop doing this.

>>148647835
All those other characters have special powers that give them the ability to influence their duels. Yusei is just a normal guy with no special power so his asspull in duels look even worse.

>>148648019
Teams 5ds was garbage though.
Jack and Aki were massive jobbers and only Crow had a decent deck out them all.
Every protagonist but Yuma and Yuya are basically one man armies.

>>148648019
Yugi, Judai, Yuma and Yuya's friends also job like hell, so how is Yusei worse again?

At least Jack and Crow don't get excused for all of their loses (fuck Gongenzaka)

>>148648096
>post DSoD

I definitely meant pre-DSoD. I apologize.

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POST KINGU

THIS IS NOW A KINGU THREAD
LISTEN TO THIS AND POST: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ibHU7K2mnVg

>>148647781
>as long as the writers avoid as much bullshit filler as they can, a decent resolution can be done.
Isn't the next episode the characters being blocked by a duel pirate?

>>148648212
>with no special power
but signers

>>148648246
So you're saying all of DM is shit other than the movie which you haven't seen?

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>>148648309
Why does KINGU give the best advice /dng/?

>>148648416
Don't play Stun?

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REMINDER THAT ARC-V WOULDN'T EVEN FUCKING NEED TO RUSH TO A CONCLUSION IF THE SYNCHRO ARC WASN'T COMPLETE TIME WASTING BULLSHIT

SYNCHROS RUIN YUGIOH SOMETHING AGAIN
EVERY FUCKING TIME

>>148648079
>So?
He's an insufferable Gary Stu, and the worst one among every YGO protagonist. None of them have reached the point where their comrades accept that they're not needed for the hero to prevail.

>>148648137
>>148648227
Judai, Yuma and Yuya to an extent were saved by their friends several times. Did you already forget about GX season 3 with Judai being saved by Jim and O'Brien, the early Barian arc with Yuma, Kaito and Shark as the main duelists and the Miami Cup? Did Yusei actually need team 5D's help a single time during the WRGP?

>>148648096
>5Ds
>Most final

It has more dropped plot points than any other series.

>>148648212
>Yusei is just a normal guy with no special power
>signer
>the crimson dragon stacks his deck for him

>Elder God Tier
1st Half of 5ds
DM Season 2

>Great Tier
GX Season 3
Arc-v Pre Synchro
DM Season 1
Zexal II

>Good Tier
GX Season 1
DM Season 5
Arc-v Post Synchro

>Okay Tier

Second Half of 5ds
GX Season 4
GX Season 2

>Bad Tier
Arc-v Synchro Arc
DM Season 3

>WHAT THE FUCK HAPPENED TIER
DM Season 4
Zexal

>>148648379
What does that actually do though? It's not like it gives Yusei any special abilities or something. All he does is summon the Crimson Dragon when all the signers are together.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Jrorstglj0
something something hikari sasu michi to nare

>>148648534
>Did Yusei actually need team 5D's help a single time during the WRGP?
Considering he only actually wins because of backrow that was set by Crow or Jack, or their synchros in the grave? You tell me.

>>148648408
There are definite highlights, but half of those episodes can be fucking flashbacks to the last episode. There are flashbacks every two fucking seconds I swear to god. But then you get stuff like Yugi vs. Strings,Yugi vs. Arkana, Jonouchi vs. Keith, Kaiba and Yugi vs. those two mask assholes, and a bunch of other examples that don't immediately come to mind but are still pretty damn fine. It's just that the ending is hot trash garbage with little or no closure after the Ceremonial Duel, which is itself a pretty good duel.

>>148648573
Unlike DM and GX, it has a conclusion for more than one or two characters.

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>>148648515
At least we got some good characters out of it.

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>>148648701

>>148648534
>Did Yusei actually need team 5D's help a single time during the WRGP?
Yeah against Zushin.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KLC8DXkD5a0
Monster Baton + BLACKWINGS = gg no re

>>148648701
>>What does that actually do though?
It gives you a shitty synchro that bounces itself during the end phase and an equally shitty tuner that does nothing by itself.

Majestic support when

>>148648352
Holy fuck, are you serious? I seriously might stop watching this shit then. What the literal fuck. They're in the Fusion dimension and they're still stalling?

I bet it's to convert the whol dimension into EGAO followers and make Leo see his errors

>>148648416
WAGA TAMASHI

>>148648515
Synchro's are best.

>>148648534
Didn't watch GX. Don't plan to. You could argue that Yusei is just a better duelist than them, and he probably is, since he actually thinks about his opp's plays and field, which hasn't been done to a protg since. Yuya just screams EGAO and converts into a faggot, Yuma borke down and cried to Astral and I dunno about Judai.

And yes Yusei did need help at points, hence the duel with Godwin.

>>148648695
Bump certain parts of DM Season 3 up to good and this is a pretty solid list.

>>148648926
>the duel with Godwin.
And the show ended here.

>>148648695
I still think 2nd half of 5Ds was great. Better than any most series' garbage era's.

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>>148648895
At least Sage and Mausoleum help with consistency.
The hard part is getting out RDA or Stardust.
Metamorphosis for synchros when?
>>148648956
Season 3 was trash, what the hell you talking about?
Noah had no business existing

>>148649056
Crashtown was the only part of 5D's throughout 65 to 108 that was actually acceptable quality.

soo, why do 5dsfags feel the need to shit on other seasons? are they that insecure about the sex cult meme?

>>148649005
>I didn't watch the second half of 5Ds

Stop

>>148648926
Guided by Serena, Yuya and co. boarded a ship, which, shockingly, turns out to be a pirate ship. Even though they realize that it’s a trap, it is already too late. As Yuya and his friends are shaken by this sudden turn of events, they are fiercely assaulted and driven into a corner by the Duel Pirate, Captain Solo.

>>148649162
>are they that insecure about the sex cult meme?
And the fact that it was the LEAST popular Yugioh show in Japan and how it almost fucking killed Yugioh. Zexal was a fucking godsend for the series because it catapulted Yugioh back into the spotlight

>>148648926
>Holy fuck, are you serious? I seriously might stop watching this shit then. What the literal fuck. They're in the Fusion dimension and they're still stalling?
5D's had worse filler episodes, didn't it? the whole pre-WRGP thing was worse than the current ARC-V episodes

>>148648695
>the boring fuckfest that is GX's first 30 episodes
>above DARKNESS arc
Wha the fuck are you doing you dumb nigger

>>148649195
>Yuya fucking duels captain solo
>Captain han solo
>kozmoooooo

>>148649290
>LEAST popular Yugioh show in Japan
Might have something to do with a certain drop in writing quality and production values after episode 64.

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>>148649162
>are they that insecure about the sex cult meme?
So aside from MUH ILLUMINATI CULT OF OLD MEN and MUH FEMALE CHARACTERS RELEVANCE did this really hurt 5ds?
At least it helped give Crow more screentime so Blackwings could get more support.

>>148649401
I think you've forgotten just how fucking rushed season 4 was.

>>148649436
Shh, don't say anything positive about Blackwings, you'll trigger the autists.

>>148648818
>no closure after the Ceremonial Duel

What the fuck?

>Yugi proved he's better than Atem anD grew out of his shadow

> Atem solved the mystery of his past and finally leaves for the afterlife.

>Kaiba acknowledges Yugi is the KoG (which is totally OOC but acceptable since manga Kaiba and anime Kaiba are two different characters) .

>Bakura is taken care of and millennium items/God cards are sealed away.

>Atem's story is over and normal life resumes for Yugi whose story is just starting.

It's perfectly fine unless you're some artist who needs every single detail shown to them.

>>148649115
Season 3 is that arc? The Virtual world? I thought it was Waking the Dragons.

Okay yeah fuck the Virtual World arc.

>>148649426
And the sex cult, don't forget about the sex cult

>>148649162
>DM was shit aside from Battle City, whcih is all I can remember and maybe some Waking the Dragons
>Zexal was shit but Zexal II was pretty good up until the ending, which basically erased everything
>Haven't watched GX, but heard it goes to shit near the end

>>148649293
>5Ds filler
>Jack vs Jack
>Jack vs Mafi
>Crashtown

All I can remember desu. I'll amdit all filler's are trash though, aside from the ones mentioned, but they're miles better than the Arc-V ones we've had.

>>148649436
Shut the fuck up and play BLACKWINGS

>>148649524
What do people have against Blackwings?

>>148649436
the show was supposed to head in an entirely different direction, jack & carly were supposed to become a couple and probably yusei & aki too
team unicorn would have never happened, yliaster would have never happened and 5d's would have been the best YGO show ever

>>>/a/

>>148649470
And?
It was still better than anything from the duel with the Gravekeeper's Chief until Kagemaru, and far better to everything that cam before that.

Giving closure to everyone's character arcs while also setting up a threat that's ALSO given closure while ALSO sending off the series with a good epilogue in 24 is basically the perfect final arc.

>>148649589
Oh yeah, Eita and the next episode on the boat? Very relevant.

>>148649426
>sex cult
I didn't really watch 5Ds, what the fuck are you on about?

>>148649436
>it helped give Crow more screentime so Blackwings could get more support.
Yeah, by cucking other characters with their screentime. look at the Last train opening. you CLEARLY see the power trio is Yusei, Jack, AKI
the next opening mysteriously changed the trio to Yusei, Jack, and Crow.

>>148649747
Carly's VA was a member of a sex cult. It stirred up a scandal in Japan, she was fired from the show and the writers were forced to rewrite everything from scratch.

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Can we all agree that if you watch any series that you skip
>Dungeon Dice Monsters
>Virtual World
>DOMA
>KC Grand Prix
>Society of Light and Seven Stars
>Pre-WRGP
>Pre WDC
>Synchro arc of 5ds
>>148649597
They're mad that Crow made Aki and the Twins irrelevant and getting shitted on by Armor Master ;) and ASF + Anti Reverse.
Let's not forget Kalut and Gale being at 3 even add more salt.
They even won Worlds.

>>148649712
>in 24
24 episodes, I mean

Official YGO Power Ranking

Elder God Tier:

DM manga + DSOD movie

Great Tier:

5Ds Fortune Cup arc

Good Tier:

GX manga


Garbage Tier:

Everything else

>>148649547
>Nothing about Joey or Serenity
>Nothing about Yugi and Anzu at all despite that being a big factor in Yugi and Atem's relationship
>Mai continues to have disappeared for no particular reason after Waking the Dragons despite what a big part she had in Joey's character arc
>Kaiba's personality turning from I DON'T ACCEPT THIS MAGICAL BULLSHIT DRAGON DICK MONSTER IS REAL to WOW IT LOOKS LIKE YUGI HAD THE GHOST OF A PHARAOH IN HIM THE ENTIRE TIME, HE REALLY IS THE BEST DUELIST on a dime

It was completely unsatisfactory.

>Abyss Actor - Wild Hope is a Hope AKA Utopic monster in the OCG
Fuck you, KoA/4 Kids. You should have stuck with King Hope.

>>148649872
>skipping DDM
DDM is cool. The GBC game is fun.

>>148649872
>DOMA
Wait what the fuck? The Waking the Dragons arc was awesome filler and its the only season where we see Atem get COMPLETELY AND UTTERLY BTFO and it also gave us DURAW MONSTAA CAARDO

>>148649872
>>Society of Light and Seven Stars
Seven Stars is solid.
As for Society of Light, just watch the episodes featuring Edo and Kaiser.

>>148650003
"Abyss Actor - Wild Utopic"?
How are KoA going to solve this one?

>>148649872
You can't skip the whole Synchro arc. It introduces many important plot points, and it's actually not as bad as people make it out to be. Sure, it was slow, and it didn't give the characters any room for interaction, but that's that. It had excellent worldbuilding and powerful moments/scenes, such as the conclusion of Kurosaki vs Dennis.
Really, it was better than anything 5D's did after episode 64. I just can't wait for the hitotsu ni subplot to unveil so the Yuseitards shut their mouths once and for all.

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>>148649936
>>Nothing about Yugi and Anzu at all despite that being a big factor in Yugi and Atem's relationship
DSoD got that for you.
They're still friends and Anzu moved to America and if she hasn't been mindbroken by BBC, she might consider coming back to marry Yugi.

>>148649936
You watched the dub.
Kaiba at no point is "WOW FUCK MAGIC" in the japanese version, he doesn't give a shit about what he did in his previous life because what matters to him is the present.

4kids actually cut out the epilogue showing Mai.

>>148649872
>Skipping ZA WARUDO O SHOUKAN

>>148650179
Wild Hope

>>148650290
>(This card is always treated as a Utopic monster)
And Zexal continues to ruin Yugioh.

>>148650230
>Really, it was better than anything 5D's did after episode 64.
Arc-Vfags are fucking hilarious at times.

>>148650407
I'm sorry your favorite show was ruined by a literal meme.

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>>148650063
>that absurd amount of edge.
nah monsta cardo can't even save it. Why does no one talk about the Kamen Rider when they talk about season 4?

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>>148650230
>implying the hitotsu ni subplot will last more than one episode before EGAO and YUZU are back

Top kek, how deluded are you? They're too afraid to do anything which might hinder the show's ratings and while every adult watching the show hates EGAO, the kids probably eat it up, so they'll go with it.

5D's after 64 was still beter than this garbage and you know it. At least no one went to Yusei after a duel and acted like they converted religions.

>>148650251
I've seen both, but most recently watched a dubbed copy with subs. So admittedly my knowledge on this isn't 100%. I don't remember a Mai epilogue at all, though, I've just blanked completely on that.

>>148650234
Again I haven't seen DSoD. I can't judge it as part of the DM ending.

>>148650497
>They're too afraid to do anything which might hinder the show's ratings and while every adult watching the show hates EGAO, the kids probably eat it up, so they'll go with it.
I'd really like a source on that. Do you have any basis for your argument(such as the interview of a writer), or are you just talking out of your ass?

>>148650487
That entire duel is mediocre right up until Joey gets his own suit of Red-Eyes armor. That armor's fucking sick.

>>148650497
>Kids
>not liking edge
That's not my childhood.

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>>148650375
>GX was so much shit cards that it killed the TCG
>5ds introduced synchro which ruined YGO
>Zexal introduced r4 and HOPU
>Arc-V gave us DUEA and PePe
Clearly we should have stopped at DM like Kaz intended.
Everything past tne Ceremonial Duel/DSoD is trash.

>>148650230
ONE (1) good moment in that shitpile of an arc does not fucking excuse the goddamn drag it was on the series. Even the best villain introduced so far, Roger, completely fell flat when it was his time to shine and got destroyed by Reiji like a goddamn chump

Fuck the only other good thing we got out of that arc was ENJOY but his cards are fucking shit

>>148650476
Clear Mind and Limit Over Accel Synchro are still the hypest shit
Arc-V doesn't have anything that even matches that.
Also suffers from a weak as fuck score, Nakagawa can definitely do better than what he's doing right now.

>tfw havent played since dino-rabbits

what's op

>>148650647
>>5ds introduced synchro which ruined YGO
People still spread this meme?

>>148650651
>ONE (1) good moment in that shitpile of an arc
That's why I talked about several good moments, right? Of course, I didn't expect you to read my post properly, seeing as you're probably blinded with frustration at the idea that your favorite show might not be as good as you thought.

If you were going to download a podcast series that covers news and events in the world of dueling, do you start at the start, where you get all the old news but you can appreciate it in hindsight, as well as getting all the banter from the hosts, or do you start from the most recent and go backwards?

>>148650749
Kozmos, Monarchs, PePe, Burning Abyss, and soon Blue-Eyes.

>>148650749
kozmo, monarchs, burning abyss
soon to be good: metalfoes, blue-eyes

I'd tell you to read the OP but not even I read it so I'd look like a real hypocrite if I did that :^)

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>>148650476
>ruined
If you mean having Yusei show off more of his skills, Jack going back to being based KINGU and Crow giving us more BLACKWINGS to win worlds with and edgy/romance shit being cut as it should be then yes it was ruined.
5ds season 2 was based, it just had slower pacing than season 1.

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>>148650749
>Tfw Dino rabbit wouldn't even make the evolzars anymore since they have access to this now.

>>148650840
Literally what other good moments were there you shithead? Everything outside Choujiro and Dennis v. Kurosaki was trash, there were no other good moments and the world building was only for the fucking irrelevant Synchro arc which nobody gave a fuck about. HURR MUH CLASS WARFARE how did that help the plot at all?

>>148650984
No, I mean... Yusei becoming a mindless Gary Stu, Jack and Crow becoming jobbers and the writing not being as good as before.

>>148649936
>Joey and Serenity

Joey's character arc was already done. So was Serenity's. There's really nothing else left to do.

>Yugi and Anzu

This is a fucking shonen kids anime. Go look for romance elsewhere.

>Mai

If you watched the subs she resumes her life of dueling and teams up with the Chinese chick who wanted Yugi's dick against the Paradox brothers at then end of the final episode.

>Kaiba

The magic mumbo jumbo stuff was all 4kids, they made it seem like a big deal when it really wasn't. Kaiba was focused on his present and never really cared for his past connections, but with all the Battle City and Millennium World shit he was eventually forced to realize there was something there. There are still many inconsistencies with his character portrayal as a result of NAS incompetency.


I love DM but the anime isn't that great. I would suggest you read Kaz manga which pretty much fixes all the major flaws of the anime while leaving out all the unnecessary filler.

>>148650872
Always start at the beginning and binge-listen.

When do you think DSoD will be available? I want to watch it for Kaiba.

>>148650595
>being this retarded

Tell me, how many whole episodes has Yuya stayed evil before MUH YUZU or MUH EGAO killed it? I think it was about 4 maximum 5. You don't need to be a psychologist to figure out which audience thy're asrgeting, fuckwit. He doesn't even want to use Yuto's power, which shows how little they'll spend with it. From what I remember, when Judai caved in, he finally let go since he lost everyone. They won't do that here. In fact, the only people he's lost have been the fish dude and that stupid fucking cook, both of which no one gave a fuck about.

But yeah, you carry on with that thought process. And when everyone finally complains how shit Arc-V was for not letting Yuya cave in, remember me.

>>148650632
I know, but we're from a different gen. Maybe jap kids like this shit.

>>148650984
This

>>148651063
Calm down. We're just discussing anime.
Do you really need to call me a shithead and write in all caps?

Going back to the argument, yes, there were other good moments such as Jack vs Yuya, Yugo vs Sawatari and Yugo vs Serena. Worldbuilding does matter, because the Synchro arc matters as a standalone arc and criticizing the show for something it did well is plain dumb.

>>148651218
Sure.

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So how do Meta decks out this?
I'm pretty nothing but lightning gets over this if it's in defense mode with xyz mats.

>>148651468
Not him, but Yugo vs Sawataru was shit. The Serena one was good. Also, the synchro arc is very forgettable, especially since none of the characters joined the Lancers. Maybe if Jack and Crow joined, there would have been an actual point in going.

>>148651614
Gameciel.

>>148651614
hit it until it doesnt have mats

>>148651683
Crow is appearing in the next episode. He might be joining Yuya in Fusion Dimension.

>>148651614
kaiju the dora
or use prime photon, either works really
also baiting the effect and solemning it works

>>148651614
Fucking Kaijus why are people pretending like these cards don't exist still?

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>>148651752
>not Jack

Fuck this show.

>>148651760
>prime photon
Derricrane ;)

>>148651847
Yes, I was disappointed too.

>>148651863
banish return ;)

>>148651614
Kaijus.
Bait with Break Sword, chain Fog Blade.
Bait with Dark Destroyer, chain Kozmojo
Not sure what Monarch do beside go first and play Domain.
And as always, until they finally fucking limit it, Strike.

How would you make Ancient Gear Chaos Giant threatening, like in the anime?

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>>148651614
honest, i dont understand why people dont run it on blue eyes deck to kill the lighting

>>148651752
Seriously?
I honestly would prefer more of him over Kaito

>>148652141
>honest the Lightning
Subtle...

I'm hearing alot about Ancient Gear in these threads. Is this a meme/pet deck or is it legitimate? I'm curious and would like to run it. Does anyone have a deck profile?

>>148652130
2 or more Ancient gear cards

Cannot be targeted

Gains an additional atk for each material

When atks/is atked, card effs cannot be used

>>148652156
Me too. I hate ARC-V Kaito.
I hate the fact that he stole Shun's role, too.

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>>148652141
That's because Blue-eyes can steal Lightning with Cipher Dragon and then turn it into Dark Matter.

>>148651009
>this op shit

is this top tier yet. i want a frog deck.

What cards can blow up Geartown and have the effect happen?

>>148652435
Ancient Gear Catapult and setting the next Field Spell before you play it over Geartown

>>148652242
Geartown + Catapult is an instant R8 or 9 of your choice.

Catapult works because it's "and if you do"

>>148652130
Chaos Giants anime effect is pretty good. Issue is his bullshit summoning requirements.

>(2) Banish this card from your Graveyard, then target a face up card you control; destroy that card and special summon an “Ancient Gear Token” (Machine-Type/EARTH/Level 1/ATK 0/DEF 0).
>destroy that card and special summon
Wait, so if you somehow target something that can't be destroyed by card effects, you still get the token out?

>>148652435
magical hats

>>148651614
Odd-Eyes alongside a Performapal gets over it.

>>148652856
The Destruction and the Summon happen at the same time, so yes.

>>148653067
Derricrane ;)

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>opponent swallows nests his sirocco into another sirocco for two 2000 boosts PLUS kalut and OTKs me with a 9k chidori

>>148652578
Spoonfeed me, Captain. What am I throwing in there?

>>148652242
The new support is making it relavent, and you can finally summon Golem from the deck with the new card.

>>148653275
I don't know.

But definitely speedroids.
Speedroids go in everything.

>>148653460
That sounds really interesting. I look forward to it's revival. I love it when pet-decks get some support and can go in with some viability. Been losing a shit ton and bricking with Toons lately but ayyy. Looking forward to giving the Gears a spin.

>tfw you miss the days of 40goodcards.dek

>>148647176
It's not particularly secret. But just splash them with Odd-Eyes and Performapals.

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Is it degenerate if I want a gf who enjoys dressing me up in girly clothes and forcing me into having degrading submissive sex where I'm the girl?

Buy machine dupes now to dupe other people into buying them from you

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>>148653563
>Speedroids
Might as well throw in Brilliant Fusion as well.

>>148653895
It means you're probably a cuck

>>148654031
No, I hate this meme honestly.

>>148648695
>Bad tier
>Arc-V Synchro Arc
Fuck no.

It dragged like crazy for the first half, but everything from Sergey/Yuzu to the Roger/Reiji Keikaku match was hype.

As a whole, it's at least Okay tier.

>>148652130

Give it full immunity from S/T, and targetting immunity for monster effect, as well as the multi-attack and the "negate face-up monster effects" effect. You skip your draw phase, but instead you add one Ancient Gear card or "Polymerization" from deck to hand per turn.

Ancient Gear Chaos Fusion banishes X number of Ancient Gears in hand and sends the 4 dogs from ED to graveyard. The hounds will all have effects. Normal hound has the normal effect + "If an Ancient Gear monster would be destroyed, you can banish one "hound doggu" monster, aside from hound doggu instead".

The Double Bite dog, when in the graveyard, gives all Ancient Gear monsters "If this card attacks, monster effects cannot be activated until the end of the damage step. Triple Bite, when in the graveyard, prevents Ancient Gear monsters from being tributed and Ultimate Bite Hound Doggu makes Ancient Gear Fusion Monster cards immune to monster effects while in the graveyard.

The idea is that if you summon it, you have a fucking huge investment and you will struggle to get resources back due to searching the rather mediocre Ancient Gear cards instead of drawing some of the much more useful S/T or generic cards. You control the ultimate castle. However, you can either work on getting more protection by slowly climbing into another fusion summon, or going for damage by making a tribute summon.

Facing it, you've got to start working on either making a high attack monster to begin beating over Chaos Giant, or dig for card effects to begin banishing the cards in your opponent's graveyard to lower the amount of protection it has.

It'd be the most stupid, most gimmicky card, but it'd be as threatening as it was supposed to be in the anime.

>>148653895
That post was truly awful. It is painfully obvious that you do not belong here. But that is okay! There is a positive solution. Rather than trying to fit in, you should strongly consider going to a site more suitable for posters like you, such as reddit, tumblr, or maybe even pojo!
You have plenty of options. You will be happy, and we will be happy. Best of luck, but don't come back. Bye~!

>>148653895
>SAMPLE SAMPLE SAMPLE
>SAMPLE SAMPLE SAMPLE
>SAMPLE SAMPLE SAMPLE
Why?

>>148649872
You can't skip arc-v synchro.

It has shitloads of character development for a lot of characters and gives worldbuilding everywhere.

Also, the entire climax from Jack/Sergey to Roger/Reiji is fucking gold and arguably one of the highest points in the franchise as a whole.

>>148654086
You don't have to hate the fact like you like to be cucked Mariomon. I mean you admitted it and that's the first stage of acceptance

>>148654630
Ahaha, I was just kidding you fucking faggot. Now I'm going to trace your IP and take everything from your house. :)

>>148651468
>Worldbuilding does matter,

It was decent worldbuilding but it could be much better if it actually enhanced the narrative of the story and relate Synchro to Standard, Xyz, and Academia. Not to mention most of the worldbuilding was also shat upon by Yuya EGAOing decades of conflict between Tops and Commons in a single duel.

What happened with Treatoad? It's not making as huge an impact on the meta as it was expected to.

>>148654729
Synchro was a dogshit arc

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>>148654351
So much build up and so little payoff watching Arc-V desperately trying to copy first half of 5D's (and somehow doing it a million times slower and less interesting) is really what killed the Synchro Arc for me, especially as someone who still regularly re-watches 5D's.

At least I'm hoping the dub will make it funny and less tedious to watch again.

>>148655024
It's already been in 3 topping decks are you retarded?

What's the general verdict on Abyss Actors? Did we get every card from the pack or are we missing stuff?

>>148654890
>relate Synchro to Standard, Xyz, and Academia.
That was pretty much the point with Roger, besides being the antagonist of the arc.

>>148655176
We're missing all the stages, and likely a script or two. That should be it though unless they have some surprise.

>>148655176
They're okay but need more cards. A Tenki/ROTA-like Abyss Script would make them quite a splashable Fiend Pendulum engine, with how easily they can set up scales.

>>148654729
World building for the Synchro Dimension that we will likely never see again.

It did have character development for some characters but they will probably make some sort of flashback episode for Reira, Serena and the others once they come back, and waste another 10-20 minutes worth of card game commercial goodness.

Also... I thought 5D's was successful in Japan? I remember hearing that it's ratings rivaled Bleach at one point.

>>148655449
5Ds did poorly, it was Zexal that was the successful one.

> “He beat Stratos up in a bar fight”

so, 1900 beater?

>no new ancient gears on pro yet
PERCY

>>148655886
1801

TAGS WHEN

>stratos
Why tease like that? They know damn well they aren't going to unban him.
Or are they?

>>148646193
>5D's
>best series
until episode 65, sure.
after that, the only good bits were crash town, CLEAR MIND, and SHOOTING QUASAR DRAGON

yusei's 'based' because he has no goddamn flaws. he never loses an on-screen duel, never has to visibly struggle for anything despite being poor as shit, and shit that should have caused him drama(like his dad causing the deaths of millions) doesn't affect him at all.

>>148656798
what they meant is that he could beat up stratos because KoA has stratos chained to a wall and he can't fight back

>>148646593
>>148646350
>>148646973
skip the opening and start with season 2
and for god's sake, don't watch the dub. it butchers characters and arcs.
GX remains one of the best yugioh series.

>>148655156
It's not consistent though. I'm not seeing it top in every tournament.

>>148655886
If you're going to base a deck around a singular monster. It has to be 1900 or 2000.

I have 2 set Call of the Haunted cards, and two copies of Divine Dragon Felgrand in my graveyard, as well as a copy of Return of the Dragon Lords.
My opponent activates Twin Twisters. I chain both CotH's as CL 2 and 3 respectively, each targetting a separate Felgrand. At the resolution of CL1, when TT destroys both, can I banish the single copy of Return of the Dragon Lords to make both Felgrand dragons survive?

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>>148647301
zexal's ending was an almost literal deus ex machina so that yuma didn't have to make the hard choice between the barian or astral world. it allowed him to completely regress as a character and ignore all the lessons he'd learned through the series.

the only shitty thing about the 5D's ending was that Z-ONE was just a goddamn robot instead of being future yusei. the final duel was still great, and yusei vs jack was a fantastic finale, as was showing that team 5D's had grown up and moved on with their life.

and I like zexal.

>>148647584
he's a scientist, following in his dad's footsteps.

they showed that.

>>148657249
I reeeally dislike Nasch. Ruined Shark's character for me.

>>148657115
Yes.

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Are any of the old Darklords even worth running? They all seem pretty useless with the new support.

>Darklords
>Ixta can draw cards and that's kind of neat but you need another Darklord card to do it.
>Teza doesn't do anything at all unless you already have a Darklord on the field
>The S/Ts can only search Darklords or destroy monsters. Their activation have hard OPT restrictions on them, and the monster effects sends them back into the deck making you unable to re-use them either way.
>Luci is just about the only Darklord card that actually does anything, but it can't be special summoned and needs to be tribute summoned. And even its effect does nothing if the opponent doesn't have face-up effect monsters on their side of the field.
>The only effect monsters the opponent ever leaves on their side of the field are Crystal Wing, Infinity, and Treatoad, all disabling the one card in the archetype that actually does anything.

I mean sure, when you actually do the tribute summon properly and summon 2 or more Darklords from the deck onto your side of the field. That's pretty cool and can win you the game. But that almost never happens.
It's like the entire archetype is geared towards that one occurrence, and that one happening is very win more like.

>>148648926
judai grew the fuck up and used his opponent's cards against them, especially once he got super polymerization.

judai has more development and grows more as a duelist than any other yugioh protag, and GX has more consistent dark themes than any other series.

5D's might have outdone it, but any promise it had was ruined by sex cults, and arc-v has decided to just EGAO instead of go dark.

>>148657249
Z-ONE actually being future yusei would have been badass but it was too ballsy to do. They couldn't muster the gumption to actually go through with it.

>>148657249
The last Zexal duels were so boring for me. They kept ripping out these ridiculous cards with silly overly specific effects with draw 1/2/7 tacked on. I prefer the GX style of doing things.

>>148657583
You mean activating mirage of nightmare and chaining emergency provisions after drawing both with pot of greed?

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>Delta the Magnet Warrior
>"A new card that strengthens the latest Structure Deck(s)! What kind of combos can it give birth to by uniting with the "Electromagnet Warriors"!?"

Pls be good. Do something good for once Konmai you bastards.

>>148657535
>it was too ballsy to do
not really, it was pretty much exactly what was foreshadowed the entire second half, from antimony/bruno's bond with yusei, the heavenly stars specifically targeting yusei, paradox taking stardust dragon in the movie...

>>148657583
>the GX style
you mean topdecking pot of greed every turn, special summoning bubbleman, drawing two, summoning neo-spacian X, neospace gift, drawing MORE, then fusion summoning the fusion of the week?

>>148657518
ARC-V isn't over yet. Seriously, please wait until to show is over to say that it has decided not to go dark. They're literally talking about the four dragons in the new intro. There's no way the show isn't going into hitotsu ni mode.

>>148657683
Yep. I prefer simple effects like "Draw 2" or "Destroy a s/t when the monster this card is equipped to attacks" to "I banish 7 specific cards form my field and their Xyz materials, then draw 7 cards and deal exactly 1060 damage to my opponent, then, I can add another card from my deck to my hand which will perform an Xyz summon using my banished materials."

>>148657518
Not to just jump into the whole conversation. But does Arc-V really need to go dark?
Can't they just beat the darkness with smiles without ever actually going that dark, and have that be fun?

>>148657496
its literally an archtype of snapcaster mages. It can only get better from here.

>>148657710
A Rescue Rabbit for Electromagnet Warriors pls

>>148657496
Do you run any of the older Dark Lords?

>>148657518
What the fuck does consistent dark themes mean? Secondly, dark themes doesn't imply something is good. In GX case it was forced as fuck and left a bad taste in my mouth. The whole s3 was retarded and it felt like the writers needed Judai to suffer for some reason. It didn't feel natural at all.

>>148657842
there's 30 episodes left and every villain is STILL being EGAO'd.

the show is going to HITOTSU NI before yuya and yuto's EGAO overcomes its destruction.

>>148657936
they could, had they approached it well enough. instead, we got dark undertones, promises of villains that are sociopaths and murdering entire dimensions of people, suddenly realizing "DUELING BRINGS SMILES!", followed by even sadistic assholes doing what they can to be nice.

and now yusho and yuya are pulling that crap.

hell, within an EPISODE of yuya entering the fusion dimension, he EGAO'd kachidoki(who was already super pissed, then traumatized by HITOTSU NI), as well as a huge fucking square of fusion citizens.

>>148657936
Edgelords don't like egao.

>>148657976
An archtype of what?

HOW MAKE PREDICTION PRINCESS META

>>148658127
>what the fuck does consistent dark themes mean?
look at 5D's. they were having fun with their turbo duels, but there was still a consistent threat with the dark signers and keikaku of yliaster, both with aporia and rex leading it.

arc-v doesn't seem to want to make up its mind on being dark or not. I'm not even trying to be edgy, but if you want to go dark, go dark. don't introduce psychopaths who delight in causing fear and terror in people suddenly be super happy and nice after a single fun duel in which they lose in humiliating, flashy ways.

>>148657976
Snapcaster Mage is a really cheap card to summon. And I doubt they'll make a new Darklord with the Snapcaster Mage effect that is level 4 or under.
And even then as stated, they need S/Ts that actually do something. Falling from Grace doesn't actually do that much, and Casting out basically just aims for that one tribute summon combo.

>>148658252
The fact that they were in the tournament pack probably means combine them with Subterrors

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Post cards that automatically mean gg

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>>148658715

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>>148658251
An archtype of this, but slower in exchange for being able to do it each turn.

>>148658339
Reusing the searcher lets you grab another Ixtab to dig harder. You can also once per turn just pop something on the board nontargeting. Since their gimmick is graveyard control if they just add more engine cards to it they will be self sustaining mill beatdown. Reborning a superbia is a setup tribute for Lucifer easily.

Now that I think about it, Burning abyss would work well with them. They're even both residents of hell.

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>>148657038
Oh so you're one of those literal "out of sight out of mind" retards? Yeah just like how Blue-eyes and Metalfoes and BA weren't good for a while simply because you didn't see them topping in every single tournament

Right

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>>148658715
I've seen people lose even after summoning Crystal Wing. Never have I seen someone bust this nigga out and not win.

>>148657496
>The S/Ts can only search Darklords
WOAH YOU MEAN THE ARCHETYPE ROTA CAN ONLY SEARCH MEMBERS OF THAT ARCHETYPE??? WOAH WOW, WHAT A COMPLETE LETDOWN DUDE WOAH WOW DUDE

>>148658171
>hell, within an EPISODE of yuya entering the fusion dimension, he EGAO'd kachidoki(who was already super pissed, then traumatized by HITOTSU NI), as well as a huge fucking square of fusion citizens.
And that's bad why exactly?
Kahcidoki was pissed for sure and was trapped in the "darkness". But he was already established as a character that always dreamt of being in the "light".
As for the people themselves. It was already since long established from the very first moment we got into contact with Serena, that the typical person of the fusion dimension believes themselves to be just no matter if they're really that involved or not. The average fusion dimension denizen isn't a psychopath, they're basically you're average nazi germany citizen where all the propaganda tells them that the academy is great and that the war they're waging overseas is just for the greater good.

If anything I thought you'd be bothered by the Tyler sisters and Edo or something. Kachidoki actually makes a lot of sense and it would be pretty forced to have him go full psychopath.
Though even then the Tyler sisters are still great fun, albeit still a little crazy. Seems like they're ultimately ruled by what's fun, but it looks like the idea of the more the merrier and the idea of sharing the fun appeals to them so they turned good. And then you have Edo, whose inclusion at all just like Crow and whatever is somewhat forced, but he's pretty much played out as a character that already knew that he was wrong for however long ago he fought Yusho. What with still holding onto Smile World and whatnot.
One would probably figure that he would have defected earlier if that was the case, but for as long as all those events happened within the latest year, or perhaps even latest 6 months, then it would become somewhat more believable.

>>148659305
Is "Treatoad sucks" the freshest /dng/ meme? The last stupid thing I saw someone say here was the whole "Kozmos are tier 3" debacle.

>>148659538
it wasn't edo in the xyz dimension I was pissed in, it was the entire army stationed there, soldiers who we SAW gleefully carding innocent people 10 episodes earlier.

and I mentioned them.

>>148659305
Nah just saying you guys overhyped it. Look at ABC that deck was meta right out of the gate winning a legitimate championship tournament and tops 90% of the time. Treatoad deck on the other hand doesn't have the same impact.

>>148659538
All I am really saying though is that this conveying of smiles has had its build up. You're entirely free to dislike that whole direction altogether in a desire to having had something more dark for whatever the reason. But my point is that arguing that this haven't been set up properly or whatever would fall flat.

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>>148658974
I'd say they're a little better than Snapcaster Mages, considering they actually recycle the S/Ts

The only problem the Darklords face is how the FUCK are you supposed to get them out onto the field. I highly doubt they're going to center the archetype primarily around just cheating them onto the board. Hopefully we get something....

>>148659420
He means that they don't have any extra effects. I don't think they need them.

Where's the link to HD cards for pro?

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>>148660080
>The only problem the Darklords face is how the FUCK are you supposed to get them out onto the field.
reborn them from the grave, duh. They're going to have an archtype-specific Monster Reborn too, mark my words.

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Why are people having so much trouble building this deck. It's like they've never played Classic Darklords before.

Help me trim 5-7 cards from the main and add 3 to the extra.

>>148660392
>no phantom of chaos

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>>148660126
That's still such a stupid fucking negative to bring up. Like "WOW the RotA can ONLY RotA, hurr what a piece of shit", how is that not a stupid thing to say? These /dng/ babbies have been completely spoiled by the "banish to get second effect" meme. Goddamn we JUST went over how 2 of the monsters are beefed up Snapcaster Mages. You're right, they literally DON'T need to do anything because the monsters by virtue already let the S/Ts do shit twice

Another thing to keep in mind is that Casting Out lets you add a Darklord CARD, not just a monster, so you can literally have access to your entire archetype with just 1 card

>>148660392
>original darklords other than superbia

but why?

>>148660392
>Classic Darklords
You mean Trade-In Superbia and Kristya and NOT whatever that ungodly bullshit you're running?

>>148660712
I'm memeing a bit Asmodeus and Marie but Zerato is a definite one of.

>>148660563
Yooo. It's been forever. Thanks for the reminder.

>>148660630
I agree with all you said. Also, the effects needed to be simple so that the monsters could be spell speed 2