Dueling Network General - /dng/

>>148708426
First for D/D when Tewart?

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2nd for shilling my build until you fuccbois see it's the best.

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>ED degeneracy got so bad that Konami made Shaddolls, Nekroz and Monarchs
>All these decks got hit by the banlist and are now trash.
>we're in the process of ED spamming becoming degenerate and they already made Dimension Barrier.
So what's the new ED stomping deck going to be?

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Sixth for marrying Puddingcess.

>reposted for new thread

>>148708336
this was the first post i made, you're mistaking me for the other guy, because clearly you're so right that only 1 person would ever be willing to challenge your might.

>inb4 you say ">w-wasnt me meme

>>148708747
>implying it isnt possible to make opabinia with non-trap level 2s, then only use its trap card/quickplay effect instead of searching
>implying i dont already know its a bad play, but i dream to meme :^)

Seventh post for AGGRESSIVE petdeck shilling

Let's make Ancient Gears great, for the first time, since there wasn't one in the first place in order to say "again"

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Trying for a pure build with the Abyss Actors and the only two Scripts that are decent

If azure eyes lasts until the end of the next turn, why is my opponent able to castel him on the M1 of the next turn? Does azure eyes not affect himself?

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Slight OCG update, slight ABC update
>another Torque Tune Gear top
>Still not running Trish
Just don't get it lads
>Japs would rather run THE COCK than Galaxy Soldier
Poor poor Soldier started off strong but just couldn't escape the meme status for long. Poor thing

someone share a felgrand petdeck build pls

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Do you guys think >we are getting support after topping Worlds ;)?

>>148710960
Fantasy Magic would be good IF IT WORKED, PERCY.

>>148711356
>running THE COCK
>AND TTG
Finally, something. Now if only I was able to get ABC stuff before the price hypes ;-;

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>think abyss actors look cute and fun
>they're getting printed

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friendly reminder to feed your petdecks!

Xth for Frogs are bad :^)

>>148711356
>Japs don't play Trish in ABC when playing Torque Tune Gear
>But they play Crystal Wing in Blue Eyes without GuB/Jet Synchron
Why do we take these guys seriously again

>>148713510
Why would you play Trish? Crystal Wing is clearly the superior option.

>>148713359
Duel me right now fuccboi, hosting on Pro.

>>148711356

>Crystal Wing in ABC

IT BEGINS

metalzoa support when

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Why isn't this sided more often for mirror matches?

Remember when /dng/ said that Dimension Barrier wouldn't see play? kek

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>Haven't played duel monsters in a long ass time
>look up new shit
>pendelum summoning
>mfw
Goddamn I get the game is fast but FUCK

>>148715702
Because it's a pink card that doesn't autowin.

>>148715702
Because it requires you to have used the card first.

>>148715810
>can't even spell pendulum properly
You've got no business playing games before your school work, kid.

>>148715702
Because it doesn't work for monsters.

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Is she pure?

Can someone explain to me how cyber angels aren't meta?

>>148717014
Because they're shit

>>148717014
why would any rituals besides full power negroz be meta
chaos max is probably the strongest ritual monster and it's still not worth running

>>148717014

because you need to open Pre-Preparation of Rites to do shit

You need to be able to make a stun field turn 1 consistently, and Cyber Angels can't do that

>>148717046
>>148717125
Aren't they pretty consistent with all the generic support? Plus hieratic additions make it have sick combos.

why am I so shit

>>148717265
>Aren't they pretty consistent with all the generic support?
Consistently shit

>>148717341
S A V A G E

>>148712338
No, it's too situational and I can't think of anything that Dark Ruler can't get over that would merit running Fantasy

>>148717014
Because they aren't out inthe tcg yet.

>Blackwing at the top tables at the yuros

Chicken niggas will never die.

>>148715810
>>duel monsters
Abridged baby confirmed.

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do any other cards have summoning conditions that can't actually be used, ever

>>148719281

you can literally send Argent Force to grave...

if we fucking had Lavalval

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>>148719281
Divine Neos tried its hardest

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UNBAN MEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>148720092
>wanting to go second against 81 + Exterio

>>148720604
Lava Golem ;)

>>148719281
Neo bubbleman.

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Why the hell are they doing this? They have a chance to make some good Destiny Hero fusions and give them support and we get shit like this. Why does Konami hate this archetype so damn much?

uh oh

fusion performage

>>148721876
Looks cool though.

>>148721876
Its better than Dystopia. The problem is D-HEROs just lack good Fusion support.
Something like Fluffal Owl clone would be good.

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Alright, /dng/.

After having "perfected" my Domain Monarch game, I decided to help my brother "perfect" his Synchro Solitaire deck.

Since the deck is already high risk high reward since you are literally prepared to shit on people and be shitted on, this is what we came up with after he had his teeth kicked in by the meta at locals.

Of course, this is post-TDIL build since 3 Pot of Desires.

What can we do to make it better?

Of course, he's willing to accept he won't win 50% of the games he plays since this deck is it's own loss condition in the respect of decking out due to Maxx "C", etc.

>>148722156
And a fluffal dog, and a frightfur fusion.

cipher rank-up magic

>>148722229
Literally what Lunalights could use since they already got a Miracle Fusion.

>>148722156
The deck should have a way to easily shit out fusions included Destiny End Dragoon of course. Just give them a Shaddoll Fusion or Brilliant Fusion type card, it needs a really broken spell.

>>148722260
A blazeman, stratos and miracle fusion could make any fusion archetype playable.

>Neo Cypher steals every monsters and absorbs their attack

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So they just had a suicide in Arc-V

>Dennis fucking kills himself
what

>new performage fusion
>cipher RUM
>dennis literally kills himself

jesus christ

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>>148721876
WHY CAN'T THEY JUST FUCKING PRINT THE LEVEL 4 MASKED HEROES WHO GIVES A SHIT ABOUT DESTINY HEROES AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

>>148722632
We really need a new wind hero if they don't plan to release stratos.

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SPDS-JP007 OCG Name: D-Cubic / TCG/Dub Name: D3
Level 1 DARK Machine-Type Effect Monster
ATK 0
DEF 0
You can only use the (2) and (3) effects of “D3” once per turn each.
(1) If this card is Normal Summoned: You can activate this effect; this card becomes treated as a “Destiny HERO” monster while it is face-up.
(2) You can discard up to 2 cards; Special Summon the same number of “D3” from your hand, Deck, and/or Graveyard, but you cannot Normal or Special Summon monsters for the rest of this turn, except “Destiny HERO” monsters.
(3) If this card is destroyed by battle or card effect: You can send 1 “Destiny HERO” monster from your Deck to the Graveyard.

>>148723514
God damn it it's another slow D Hero card with high costs. Why can't we get 1 single really good card out of the new D Hero support.

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>>148717014
Because most of the retards playing the deck don't realise that Herald is the win condition while the rest of the deck is just shit to search or protect herald.

>>148717046
>>148717125
As you can see TCG only shitters

>>148717232
Pre-Prep is really good for the deck though you can make plays without it. it really hurts though when I open up a hand of 4 cards which need to be summoned to search.

>>148724841
I love Dakini.

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>>148721876
Deadly and Dystopia are good cards. Dystopia is literally Beatrice with an ATK boost, and combo'd with dystopia guy you get free pops and burn.

The problem is so far all the maindeck destiny heroes are trash and don't benefit at all from fusion.
I saw potential for the deck when I saw decisionguy and thought "oh hey this guy forms a neat little loop with dynamite guy" but then I saw
>one per DUEL
and the screaming began.
So the deck has no real advantage engine unless you loop malicious all day or hit lucky diamond dude mills so you can draw into more garbage destiny heroes. Dark Angel is the only card worth mentioning but even he can't carry the deck.

>>148723514
Literally all this does is set up Plasma/Dogma and the fusion, but it doesn't even plus

The only shit that even benefits from the grave is malicious and your 1 decisionguy effect.

>>148721876
Deadlyguy is legit good though. Like, I'd very much appreciate a more explosive and real deal fusion but that wouldn't change the fact that Deadlyguy is a good card.
It's an easily summonable card that is very potent at setting up desirable graveyard situations. Why hate on it?

>>148725573
First of all you have to discard from the hand, which this deck being a fusion deck has a problem with hand advantage. Second of all there are only a couple of cards in the deck that you even benefit from sending to the graveyard, one of which you only want to send once then never again.

He just creates no real advantage, he could possible end the game with an empty backrow but that's it.

>>148726001
He can give you access to Malicious if you don't already have it. It can also very easily give you all the Dynamite Guys. Discarding Shadow Mist gives you a HERO of your choice.
It's a neat that card is easy to get out and then you proceed to other plays after it has set up the graveyard.

>>148723514
Now we need a rank 1 Destiny Hero.

>there are people who think Metalfoes YZ are the best YZ build when it hasn't topped once in the OCG
>meanwhile, Zefra YZ has topped twice in the TCG and can shit out the same fields more consistently

>>148725372
You could always run Plasma Deepdraw.

>>148727904
Yang Zing is shit in general

>>148727908
if you want to set up plasma you can literally set scapegoat and wait a turn. Its already the easiest way to set up plasma but noone does it because plasma is shit.

>>148727964
Zefra YZ is a great control deck.

>people say Yu-Gi-Oh is dying
>US Nats draws 140+ more people than 2015
>EU Nats draws 700+ more people than 2015
Can we stop with this meme now and except that Konami knows what they're doing from a business perspective?

>>148727992
Yeah, but this takes up a turn. Plasma Solitare is faster. Also, you could always just pull off a Dogma + Magical Explosion if you want to have twice as much fun.

>>148727904
>>meanwhile, Zefra YZ
You mean Zefrainu and Oracle? Or do you actually mean the other shits like Zefraxciton and whatnot?

Because the YZ Zefras are just YZs. They go in all builds.

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Why is <he> so perfect?

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anything glaringly wrong with this deck?

>>148728378
Yeah, you're playing Volcanics

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>http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Neo_Galaxy-Eyes_Cipher_Dragon
>3 Level 9 monsters
>If this card is Xyz Summoned by using "Galaxy-Eyes Cipher Dragon" as Material, it gains these effects.
>● Once per turn: You can detach all Xyz Materials from this card; take control of as many monsters your opponent controls as possible, but their names become "Neo Galaxy-Eyes Cipher Dragon", their ATK become the same as this card's, their effects are negated, also they cannot attack this turn.
>● If this face-up card leaves the field: Return control of all monsters whose control was taken by this card's effect to their owner.
please don't target when youi get printed

>Rank-Up-Magic Cipher Ascension
>Target 1 "Cipher" Xyz Monster you control; Special Summon from your Extra Deck, 1 "Cipher" Xyz Monster that is 1 Rank higher than that target, by using it as the Xyz Material. (This Special Summon is treated as an Xyz Summon. Xyz Materials attached to it also become Xyz Materials on the Summoned monster.) The Summoned monster gains 500 ATK for each Level 4 or higher monster you control.
Probably getting changed to Galaxy-Eyes support when printed.

>>148728331
I mean the Zefracentric build that uses Zefraniu, Zefraxi, Zefraxiton and Oracle along with Sky Iris, Monkeyboard and Odd-Eyes Unicorn. Seriously, just use TCGtopdecks.
>>148728374
Because <he> looks like <she>.

>>148728623
>take control of as many monsters your opponent controls as possible
what le fug

>>148728623
Time to side in Single Destruction effects.

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>>148729103
Not today.

Or Book of Moon, people actually run that sometimes.

>>148728623
So will Ciphers be able to search their own RUM like PKs do?
I don't want to imagine the insanity this card could bring. A board wide snatch steal is disastrous.

>>148730485
http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Cipher_Mirror_Knight

BURU AIZU CHAOS MAXXXU DORAGONNN

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Fnq8rkgggkg

>>148730565
>During the End Phase.
Meh. It's searchable and can be dumped so it's ok I guess.

>>148728623
So, if you destroy it, you have a field filled with 4500 ATK Monsters?

>>148731126
Ideally if it doesn't target and you wipe the board that won't happen. But I think that's how it works, yeah.

>>148730792
>attacking a Magician Girl
So Kaiba can't read cards or something?
The CGI on the dragons looks overdone to say the least but keeping the sound effects from DM is a nice touch.
>Deep-eyes comes from space.
What the hell is that dragon supposed to be and what was Kaiba saying while summoning it?

>>148731534
So can the Dunkler shoot hoops and dunk baskets?

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Mahad and Lemon confirmed

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>>148731682
Gaia Knight is also in there meanwhile Choco is confirmed in

>>148731682
>>148731793
>no Duja
[worry]

>>148731682
>Alternative confirmed
So is this worth buying now?
>>148731850
Cubics ain't doing shit with or without that card.
If it's not in here it's probably the movie promo.

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DMG and Slifer confirmed last 2 Alt. Arts

>>148731682
>>148731793
These cards are ancient already. Why do we care again?

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Clear Kuriboh confirmed

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Gandora X confirmed

So what's the censorship check?
Did they fuck up the art?

>>148732050
>Choco censored
KoA staff confirmed for enjoying their spouses having sexual relationships with other people.

>>148732171
Look at the pictures.
The Magi Girls are untouched.

One confirmed import left.

Either Celtic Guard of Arms or Duja.

No Kaiba BE or Obelisk arts in here.

>>148732050
>Dark Magician Girls legs and chest COMPLETELY uncensored

Holy fuck is TCG becoming based?

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>>148732221
>>148732050

>>148732472
>Tewart finally abiding by Kaz wishes

Hope we get Magi Magi soon

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>>148732050
FUCKING SHIT
TEWAAAAAAAAAAART

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>>148732495
>They censored Choco

FUCK NEVER MIND TCG IS STILL COMPLETELY KEKED WHAT A FUCKING SHAME

>>148732050
>>148732495
Completely fucked up cleavage/chest.
Erased the garters.
Covered up the venus mound.

For what reason?

>>148732525
Damn spoke too soon. Tewart is still s fag.

>>148732304
I'd bet on Celtic Guard.
Celtic Guards are somehow less important than Cubics so they can import Duja and add Noble Arms to the NEVER EVER Import list like D/D and Burgers.
>>148732495
>>148732603
>leave the midriff and stockings
>cover up the breasts.
Tewart's backwards logic still in place I see.
>>148732525
She may not be in TDIL as an import but it might be given later down the line.
Maybe if they do another DM pandering set they could import her.

>>148732603
What about the other Magician Girls?

>>148732603
I am almost surprised they didn't make her a fat tumblrina.

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Sekret side dek tek against Monarchs for Pendulum?

>>148732714
>Celtic Guard
I really hope they're completely done with DM nostalgia pandering now. Such fucking shit cards.
If it weren't for the original and Arc-V cards saving the card game this nostalgia pandering would have killed the game.

>still censoring card art (card art by the game's creator even)
>no KC rarity
Everytime I think I should play the game in real life, Tewart is always there to give me good, thoughtful reasons not to.
Thank you, Kevin, you saved me from spending money on cardboard.

>Dark Magician Girl essentially uncensored by the Nanny state TCG cucks
>Every other Magician girl outside of Kiwi possibly (based latex) probably got censored


So Tewart is just a DMG waifufag. Just like every other dipshit was back in the early 2000s. Completely non patrician taste famalam

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>>148732827
>Such fucking shit cards
I know what you mean. Nobody can defend this.

>Cannot attack unless you have no cards in your hand. Once per turn: You can Special Summon 1 "Celtic Guard" monster from your hand. When this attacking card inflicts battle damage to your opponent: You can draw cards equal to the number of "Celtic Guard" monsters you control.
Then there's BLS, Buster Blader, Dark Magician, Magician Girls, Silents and EM warriors.
At least ABC and Blue-eyes were good cards to come out of this.

>>148732987
>So Tewart is just a DMG waifufag.
Kaz probably just threatened to not even give the movie an overseas release if they were to censor DMG.

>>148732827
>Arc-V cards saving the game
>Superheavy Samurais, Melodious, Fluffal, Cardians, Raidraptors, Yosenju/Abyss Actor, Blackwings, and the list goes on

They're all hot garbage just like the Arc-V anime. Only Performapals and D/D/D can stand on their own two feet. PK, SP and Entermages need to be teched in as engines because they are garbage played as a pure deck. Plushfire was the most degenerate shit and hurt the game. PePe was one of the worst things to happen to the game so much we needed an emergency ban list. Arc-V hurt the game way more than "nostalgia"

>>148733028
Blue-Eyes is honestly only any good thanks to the Felgrand cards.

>>148733121
>waah !
>waah!
>the cards are too good! Too good waah!
>give me more DM trash !

>>148733121
The ARC-V era saved the game by making every summoning method viable.

>>148733140
Blue-Eyes is not only good because of Felgrands; try getting over Crystal Wing + Spirit Dragon without Raigeki.

>>148733121
Even the shittiest of the petdecks from Arc-V aren't as bad as the legacy """support""".
You could easily play Samurais or Raidraptors and beat any DM deck.

>>148733341
>+ Spirit Dragon
You're not likely to do that with just the Blue-Eyes support.
You may have forgotten just how reliant all your plays are on the new generic Dragon support.

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>>148733341

>>148733436
Nah, you can do that shit with literally just opening Master, Mausoleum and Sage.

Other cards just exacerbate the process.

>>148733121
1. Every era had shitty petdecks
2. Every era had game breaking cards
3. Every era had meta decks
4. The ARC-V era was the only one to make every summoning methods viable, and DUEA was the most varied format ever.

>>148731534
>Dunkler Magier
German is adorable.

>>148733491
I don't think that can be activated when Spirit is on the field; it special summons 2 monsters at the same time.

>>148733570
This. Just compare it to the Zexal era.
Konami basically splashed the "Cannot be used as a Synchro Material." restriction on every card in an effort to kill Synchro Summoning and push Xyz. Hell, they even decided to make an anti-Synchro archetype in the form of Evilswarms.

>>148731938
Cubics aren't even a deck without Duja, holding it back until 2017 would be fucking retarded. And we

>>148733263
Great argument bud. You sure got me!

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Slight ABC update again

Galaxy Soldier almost officially relegated to meme status again unless something changes soon. That Pot of Avidity seeing loads of play in ABC sides now though

>>148733963
*And we've known about Alternative for ages.

>>148733974
>>148733570

>>148733570
>and DUEA was the most varied format ever.
No kidding.
Shadolls - Fusion
Tellars - xyz
Qlis - Pendulum/Tribute
Yang Zings - Synchro
Nekroz - Ritual
The issue was that all of these decks were either helmet as fuck or just annoying floatshit.

I would be fine with getting Duja as a theater promo if they give me the manga too. I need more of Kaz art in my hands.

>>148734128
That's called powercreep. The game needed it.

>>148733121
>PK, SP and Entermages need to be teched in as engines because they are garbage played as a pure deck.
Are you implying cards have to somehow be played "pure" as an archetype to count as good?

>>148734128
>Shaddolls
>Either of those
They were not

>>148734150
No please, I don't want to have to wait until next fucking year for my petdeck.

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>>148734238
>the entire deck floats
>not floatshit
>Artifact/Clown Shaddolls weren't a deck
>not helmet.
This is why Construct is permabanned and got ripped into Tellar support.
Shaddolls were such a fucking cancerous deck that Tewart made Burning Abyss to cuck them and even that failed.

>>148734632
Construct would have been okay at 1.

>>148734242
But SYRALs anon. SPYRALs. SPYRALs and Sub-Terrors. Sub-Terrors!
By the time Duja is imported you will have already forgotten all about Cubics.

>>148734632
Shaddolls weren't helmet; they required a player with a functioning brain to use. As for floating, all the Shaddolls only floated off of Card Effects.

>>148734761
Fuck off Tewart

>>148734761
SPYrals and Subterrors both look retarded, I want my direction gods.

>>148734905
Just you wait; the thread will be filled with retarded Spyral Scientist-posters, because he's bishie enough.

>>148734128
>shaddolls
>nekroz
>helmet
if you had no fucking clue what you were doing, especially in the mirror, you straight up fucking lost.

BA, Tellar and Qli were helmet because if you opened scout or deneb before them or milled better than your opponent you straight up won right there.

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>>148734905
And this doesn't?
It's not even a cube, it's an egg with an eye,
The entire archetype loses to Mirror Force since it's only wincon is Crimson Nova OTK and it has no protection from S/T.

>>148735356
No one runs MF or battle traps in general anymore.

OCG Kozmos and Kaijus soon.
How great will their OCG exclusive support be and how long will it be before we get them?

>>148735356
>And this doesn't?
No, that looks cool as shit.
Are you the kind of faggot that bitches about monsters being too "ugly"?

What's some good draw power cards for an Ancient Gear deck? Cupidity doesn't really work in it IMO.

>>148735582
wait for the rest of the support, currently ancient gears are still pretty unplayable even with catapult.

>>148735582
>Cupidity doesn't really work
I'm fairly certain Cupidity works just fine your just not using it correctly which is what happens about 90% of the time when people complain about the card

I like SPYRALs because of the techie.

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>>148735582
Trade-in.
Dump Golemn or Dragon with this.

what decks can spam rank 5s? i cant think of anything aNd iT gOt meFUCkedUp!!

>>148736013
ED Monarchs

>>148735854
Cupidity works fine in most decks, it's just that most decks aren't Ancient Gears.

why isnt ancient geat hound dog playable in ygo_. it tells me its banned for in the tcg&ocg for some reason. same with the fusions

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http://ygodr.blog.jp/archives/1059384308.html

>>148735924
are you a girl or a simple faggot

>>148736061
It's not out yet, it's an anime only card at the moment.

>>148736041
what? what level 5s are in that?

>>148736152
aha ok thanks.

>>148736162
the prime monarch
red layer
quickdraw synchron
seraphinite

>>148736013
Odd-Eyes.

>>148736278
there's also jack's knight or dark witch depending on the pilot's choice

can we please have unicore back at 3 to keep these extra deck spam decks in check

How do I get a PhD in dueling?

>>148734632
>Tewart made Burning Abyss to cuck them and even that failed.
That wrong retard.

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>>148736278
>>148736705
can anyone please post a deck list of this? i have surprisingly never heard of this version for Monarchs before

>>148737369
Look for tzolkin monarchs on yugioh top decks. Since they spam lvl 5s all the time you can just make rank5s instead of tzolkin.

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C-Cardian bros ww@...

pls respond

Any darklord deck ideas yet? When could the darklord cards arrive in TCG?

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How do I improve this deck?

>>148737758
It's decent; Grepher is going to be important.

>>148737820
There is literally so much wrong with this I can't even give you any advice

>>148737758
>Any darklord deck ideas yet?
mine is called "open Valhalla/Hecatrice or die"

>>148737639
It's just so hard to make them good. They're incestuous like NKs and equally as shit. Even when you get Ameshikou and no cheaters allowed out turn 1 it just isn't enough to win.

>>148737820
Either make it ulti golem otk turbo or give up

>>148737958
What should I use in UAGG OTK?

>>148738262
prisma
hero lives
fusion conscription
cupidity
king of the swamp
shit like that

>>148738262
3 AGG
3 Prisma
3 Kots
3 Conscription
3 Power Bond
1 Limiter Removal
2 Polymerization
The rest is just filler and include your other 2 Ancient Gears for the fusion.

>>148737953
>Playing Valhalla/Hecatrice
You don't want to summon the Darklords from your hand.
>>148738446
Also Machine Dupe because it's stupid with AGG.

So, I've missed a couple of days here and wanted /dng/'s opinion about a few things.

And by few things I mean Performapal Odd-Eyes Metal Claw and the SPYRALs artworks.

>>148738563
>You don't want to summon the Darklords from your hand.
And how else do you even plan to even play?
Don't say Oasis/CotH or I'll punch you.

>>148738721
whats wrong with call/oasis when all the darklords are quick effects

>>148738721
Oasis and Call because of fucking Superbia, you retard.

Superbia summons back the other ones.

>>148738563
>Also Machine Dupe because it's stupid with AGG.
So what's the relationship between Ancient Gears and Gadgets again?
I thought the Gadgets were Yugi's cards and they worked together to power trap monsters yet Ancient Gears use them as tribute fodder for their machines.

>>148738684
>Performapal Odd-Eyes Metal Claw
I am kind of upset it's not actually a Beast monster but still a weird Dragon somehow.
And while effect immunity is usually neat, Performapals excel at buffs and it wouldn't benefit from them. Besides, attacking over a mere 3000 ATK is hardly an extraordinary feat.

>the SPYRALs artworks
People will and do shit on them. And they do look like fujo pandering central.
But I still like them. I admit that they almost look like art from a completely different type of card game. But the art still has a fresh and complete feeling to it. They're full pictures ground, backgrounds, and centre-motifs. I honestly wouldn't mind more art like them, no matter if people are to complain about the shading or whatever. The art is good but we still know nothing about the cards themselves.

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>>148738409
>>148738446
So more like this?

>>148739210
>The art is good but we still know nothing about the cards themselves.
thats not entirely true. we dont know exact effects, but we do have descriptions.

>the spy
“This guy is kinda the main hero of the deck”
“He rewards you for using information correctly”
“He beat Stratos up in a bar fight”
“Other cards revolve around this particular card”

>the scientist
“Machine Duplication is bananas with this card”
“There’s an omission of once per turn on this card on purpose”
“Works very well at making sure your agent never goes unprepared into the field”
“If you’re playing SPYRAL, you’re going to want multiples of this card.”
“Not a secret rare”

>the car
“Very very powerful card”
“Doesn’t just work with the agent”
“There is a forbidden card with a similar effect”
“You know when the hero in the movie sets off a giant explosion and you’re not sure if he comes out alive? Suddenly he drives out of the smoke in his sports car and off into the sunset. That’s what this card is like.”

>the drone
“Works very well with your agent”
“Gives you information and lets you manipulate that information in limited amounts”
“Can give you surprise bonuses that catch your opponent off-guard”
“You’ll want to get into a habit of playing this card before you play your agent, because it will make your agent significantly better if you know what is coming up”

>>148739672
Put in triple Machine Dupe, in place of the three non-Magical Hats traps.

>>148738684
>Performapal Odd-Eyes Metal Claw
OEP Towers, but it forces them to run Poly so it's not so bad.

>SPYRALs artworks.
Complete trash. How that shit got past quality control I will never know, and I am even more perplexed that anyone here would defend that absolutely amateur quality of art.

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>A SPY deck with only ONE (1) Spy
>It's not even a cutie female Spy either

Confirmed shit Protect the Castle deck right out of the fucking gate. Jesus Christ, Subterrors better be the fucking meta TCG archetype or I'm gonna be god damn pissed

>>148739702
>we do have descriptions.
Yeah we do. And I honestly find that pretty neat.
I'd like it if they teased every archetype like this. It's cool to have something to speculate on prior to release.

However. While the descriptions are neat. The interpretations you can draw from it are still far too lose to be anything definite. We can easily assume the cards do one thing and they can still easily end up doing the opposite. Because the descriptions aren't definite enough.

So while cool, it honestly doesn't say that much at all to be honest if you were to ask me. About the most significant thing we can take of it is pretty much that the scientist will be or can be a machine dupe target somehow.

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How do you build Dark magicians?

>>148740015
>Protect the Castle deck
If anything I get more the impression that the Agent will be more like ammunition used to be spent by the effects of other cards as they trigger or something along those lines.
I have this hunch that you will spend and recycle the agent a shitton when playing the playing the deck. I don't think you'll have an untouchable agent on the field you're just protecting. If anything the agent will be blasted several times a turn and you'll have to pick him up again.

>>148740105
well there are a few obvious things, like that the spy is above 1800 attack, due to beating up stratos.
the scientist is -500 attack machine, and gives some sort of protection to the spy guy
the car has an effect thats on the ban list right now, and could give protection too.
and the drone might be able to see what your opponent has face-down or in the hand, and maybe bounce something back, judging by the whole "You’ll want to get into a habit of playing this card before you play your agent, because it will make your agent significantly better if you know what is coming up” line.

>>148739702
>“There’s an omission of once per turn on this card on purpose”
Damn it Tewart.
Didn't Inzektors teach people why the OPT clause is important?
He purposely does this shit to overcompensate for his stupid ideas when it should only be given as equity to shit decks like Cubics or Cardians.

>>148739702
>“You know when the hero in the movie sets off a giant explosion and you’re not sure if he comes out alive? Suddenly he drives out of the smoke in his sports car and off into the sunset. That’s what this card is like.”

It sounds like exciton knight's effect.

>>148740693
sounds more like destruction protection

>>148740795
Then what forbidden card could it be like?

>>148740795
>There is a forbidden card with a similar effect.
Excition nuked the board and only spared itself.
The car will be like.
>Equip this this card to a face-up "SPYRAL" monster you control.
>While this card is equipped to a monster, you can destroy all cards on the field except for the equipped monster.

>>148740576
At least they're actually outright admitting they purposely "forget" OPT on certain cards

>>148740943
>Excition nuked the board and only spared itself.

Does that not fit their description perfectly? Especially considering the fact that the hero agent would be outnumbered if it was Exciton-esque.

>>148741106
It does, so the card almost definitely has an effect similar to exciton knight's because no other forbidden card fits the description.

>>148740943
More like
>If this card treated as an equip card, or the equipped monster are destroyed and sent to the Graveyard while equipped with this card: You can return them to your hand.
Butterfly Dagger is also a banned card.

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>>148740963
I seriously hate the damn hypocrisy
>this fucker doesn't have a hard OPT
>sets up the grave for Eclipser/Dark Planet or CotH/Oasis
>can search itself
>is tutorable off E-tele and can banish itself before E-tele does AFTER its searching effect due to SEGOC
Yet this thing is ok at 3.
Let's not forget Kozmotown being a searchable Mullgian rule and even replaces itself if it gets destroyed.
Fucking Kozmos float off almost anything and are immune to targeting and they get this shit as support while all other decks have to suffer with their cards being restricted as fuck and have to actually manage their resources while Kozmos laugh at it.
Even after all this shit, they're no tier 0 since Monarchs and Burning Abyss are too much for them for some reason.

>>148740358
Rod.dek

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Has anyone ever tried to make a deck with this?

>>148741410
>for some reason.
Bricking.

Opening 2 ships and 3 traps sounds like a fucking killer hand.
On the next turn you topdeck Kozmotown and surely you're good to go.
But no, you drew another Town and one more fucking trap.

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>>148731682
>>148731793
>Lemon and Choco are in

DMG petdeck confirmed.

>>148741563
I'm sure

>>148731793
>>148731682
Post the other magician girls, I wanna see how bad they censored them

Is D3 any good at all? I don't understand the point of it.

>>148742070
is a gx card

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If they print this card will it save d-heroes?

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>>148741890
>Post the other magician girls,
Sure thing, mate.

>>148742516
I meant the cards from the TCG movie pack, not the same fanarts posted every thread. At least find some new ones

>>148742432
What was the point of that card?!

>>148742725
anime Plasma was unaffected by card effects while it was on top of your deck

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Who from Arc-V should make the cut?

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>has a pre prepable ritual spell
>really good in LIGHT decks to recycle resources
>sees no use
???

>>148743456
>amazoness
Are you fucking kidding me?

>>148743456
Ancient Gears

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Is Kirin broken? Or is a deck that can't get over it shit?

>>148743456
they can all be in it, hoestly, but you forgot D-hero

>>148743456
more lunalights

>>148728623
>Requires a RUM
Gross.

>>148743882
A deck that use storming/drowning is shit, yes.

>>148743882
Broken is a bit much, but it certainly is a dumb card that probably shouldn't be at 3 considering that is quite splashable

>>148743456
Gears have a SD. Probably don't need it.
Fluffs have a shit ton of support already.
Amazoness?
Plants will most likely be in it.
I doubt performage will be in an 'evil' pack.

>>148744178
Fluffals don't have enough support. They can stop when they're tier 1.

Titanic Galaxy best card

Stupid newbie question:
I started playing Yu-Gi-Og again, and I downloaded YGPRO from the link in the OP.

Works fine, but I now encounter some blank cards. It was explained to me that they are new cards introduced from quick updates.

Where the heck do I get those?
A google search led me to downloading a months old version of PRO. Is there a site where they upload just the new cards?

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>>148743804
>>148744178

I know nobody wants to see Amazoness in Fusion Enforcers but they are a Fusion deck now.... it could happen.

Also, a monster from today's anime episode

Performage Trapeze Force Witch/Entermage Trapeze Force Witch
DARK Level 7
Spellcaster/Fusion/Effect
2400/1800

2 "Performage" monsters

"Performage" monsters you control cannot be destroyed by card effects, and your opponent cannot target them with card effects. While you control another "Performage" monster, monsters your opponent controls cannot target this card for attacks. If a "Performage" monster you control battles an opponent's monster: You can target that opponent's monster; it loses 600 ATK.

>>148743897
D-Heros already have one Booster SP, really don't want to see them taking up space in another

>>148743456
AG will probably get their hound printed similar to how the Goyos got thei monsters printed in the synchro pack. Sora hasn't dueled in quite a while and there's no new Frightfurs or Fluffals to print so I don't think they will be in the pack. Yugo and Yuto got their cards printed in their respective booster sp so it would only make sense for Yuri to get his cards printed in Enforcerers. Amazoness maybe, they got some new cards in the anime recently. Don't know about performage, seems more like mainline booster pack material. Perhaps Serena will duel and debut some new Lunalights as she will return in the anime soon.

>>148744567
>Target the opponent monster
A shame.
It's not bad protection while on the field, I guess but running poly in performages seems meh

>>148744291
Do they even have any more anime cards to get?

>>148744567
Force Witch + Trapeze Magician with Trickyclown material would have been some serious cancer.

>>148744672
They had a battle fader that on the field could fuse.

>>148743945
Kaito used a card that fetches a RUM if sent to the graveyard, just have to hope it gets printed.

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Yugioh is such a fucked up autistic game. The rules are impossible, there's been decades of extreme power creep, and the rules text on many cards is longer than Infinite Jest.

Yet there is something magical about the game. Games are often determined in a flash, like a knife fight. But there's also ridiculous combos that let us summon huge super powerful dragons and robots with gratuitous and epic weeb art. There is no set rotation. That means you can always find a secret tech to catch your opponent off guard. And Konami will often release a handful of cards to help out an old deck archetype like they have done recently with Crystal Beasts and Destiny Heroes.

So maybe MTG is more well designed with its focus groups and huge hierarchies of researchers and developers. Maybe Yugioh is fundamentally flawed. But Yugioh has a soul and style that will never be matched. And that's why we keep coming back.

>>148745174
Nice pasta

Ancient Gear really needs more ways to recover Geartown. Reactor Dragon can destroy Geartown without making it miss the timing which is pretty good.

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>>148744672
In the anime Force Witch was summoned using this card, the real life version will probably be shit though.

>>148744748
Not sure, but I believe Sora has a couple cards from the manga that aren't out yet

>>148745264
I just wrote that, fuckface.

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>>148735356

Duston/Darklord
http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm29267231

Holy shit I can't wait for this meta to end. Everything needs a hit, ABCs need to get hit right when they come to the TCG, Blu-Eyes need a hit, etc. Now we have a nice bunch of decks that have a shot.

Also, Pendulum mechanic was a terrible idea. Shit was built broken. Going back to the extra deck should have been part of a field spell or continuous spell/trap card.

>>148745727
>LITERALLY THE FIRST DUEL and the first play is draw 4 and do nothing

Not even gonna bother relegating this to a fucking meme. Fuck off with these dumb chink decklists

>>148745297
I assume the gameplan is to end the game before you run out of Geartowns.
Ritual Sanctuary can recover spells in bulk but there's really no LIGHT Fairy worth teching in (fucking Veiler being a spellcaster and GOSR being psychic), and I think there's not even a single machine ritual to justify running it outside of recycling

>>148744492
Anyone?

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Holy shit get this meme fuckery out of here, oh my god

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>>148743882
It´s simpy a Bad Designed Card. It´s way too splashable and should have stayed for only Majespecters. Only by Negating its Summon or destroying the Scales and then somehow remove it gets rid of it. The Worst Part is if you try to Destroy it per battle it can just bounce itself.

>>148746425
> ABCs need to get hit right when they come to the TCG, Blu-Eyes need a hit, etc.
Wow, butthurt much, Yugi?

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ready for memes

>D3 is shit

Man, D-Heroes cant catch a fucking break.

>>148746757
>>148743882
You could balance it in a second by just making it unable to target itself for its bounce. Or ruin it entirely by making it only able to target Majespecter monsters excluding itself.

What are your Darklord decks looking like, /dng/?

>>148746871
no deck should be able to create huge boards with soft locks during the first turn all while maintaining hand advantage. not about being butthurt, it's about making as many decks as possible competitively viable.

>>148746425
Stuff Like Blue-Eyes Spirit Dragon and ABC being able to forcefully Float was just well made against Answers these Days.
Instead Stuff like Ebon Void Magician and Berserion Float Stronger but have to wait on the Opponent doing something so it´s basically non-existent when R4NK or Generic Answers can get rid of it without Triggering it.
If you´re complaining about Pendulums which have been around for 2 Years now you´re probably just an Oldfag who only came back to the Game for the Movie and Duel Monsters Shilling.

>>148747195
Erratas are the worst thing to happen to this game and if you're suggesting that then please get the fuck out of my face.

>>148747703
yeah, because it would be a shame if ABC dragon buster couldnt target the opponents monsters, especially if the opponent is playing an already meta deck.
but i mean, what already meta deck that has untargetable boss monsters isnt available to face ABCs right now, without some sort of imaginary format?
because the OCG clearly currently has everything.

TDIL leaks when?

>>148747703
>WAHHH I JUST HATE IT WHEN DECKS ARE ACTUALLY ANY GOOD

Fuck off back to that dregfest HAT format then you shitface

>>148747703
>ABC
>huge boards
>Blue-Eyes
>hand advantage
ok lmao senpai
just keep masturbating to DM I'm sure one day it'll be good

>>148747926
Of course not. I'm just saying it's not inherently broken. Like there's no way you can make Monkeyboard a shit card, for instance, because that's just inherently powerful.

I want a sexy monster girls archetype. Besides Traptrix. I can't believe there isn't one already.

>>148748513
You could be a Furfag and play Moonlights Anon. Charmers also Exist but their Legacy Support being one unsearchable Trap is a bother.

>>148724841
>chaos max
>tcg-only
tripfag smart

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>>148747659
goddamn inconsistent but powerful

>>148748786
I'm assuming speedroids are for tributes?

>>148748053
>>148748039
next time try to actually rebut me instead of resorting to ad hominems

>>148747889
>>148748016
hit all current meta shit and all future meta shit as they show that they're degenerate and by Nats next year you could have a meta with a minimum of 7 decks that can win any tournament. Oh, I forgot that diversity is bad for YGO.

>>148747703
>no deck should be able to create huge boards with soft locks during the first turn all while maintaining hand advantage
First of all. ABC doesn't make huge boards.
The most they do is r4/CDI and Dragon Buster with some backrow depending on how they open.
Any advantage they generate is in the same tier as Ruris, It's empty as fuck.
Blue-eyes is the same, they barely make huge boards and go for OTKs/beatdowns.
They generate advantage less than ABC, they most they search and recover is vanillas.

>>148749272
2x Bureido, 1x Buster, 1x Infinity, 3 cards in the hand.

Yep, definitely not a big board, right? Or take that 2x Bureido and make Number 38.

Hell, I've seen 2x Bureido, 1x Buster, 1x Omega, 4 cards in the hand.

Again, totally not a big board, right?

>>148749136
>a meta with a minimum of 7 decks that can win any tournament.
if we're talking top 8, there are 12 decks within the past 3 months that have topped.
if we're talking 1st/2nd/3rd place, there are 9 decks within the past 3 months, 6 1st place, 3 2nd/3rd.

consistent topping means you need to side for it to counter it.
you can side easily for 4 decks.

>>148746615
Z-ONE is perfectly fine to recover Gear Towns. You are most likely shitting out Atomic Gear Dragons anyway, they can easily destroy your Z-ONEs

>>148748786
looks grarbo

>>148750125
>Karakuri ABC
That's not a meta deck. That's a shitty petdeck.
Take a look at the topping OCG decklists and you'll see that's not a thing.

>>148750125
>Bureido

What the fuck are you talking about? What ABC deck runs Bureido?

>>148750290
The only non Tier-1 deck to win in the past 3 months was Mermails.

>>148750762
No true scotsman fallacy. Please try again. I've proven that an ABC deck can make big boards, which means you're wrong. Accept it and move on or spout some more fallacies.

>>148748786
>runs superbia and zerato
>no trade-in
kys

Has anyone been able to comment on the ratios in the DSoD pack yet? I wanna know if Alternative is gonna be Brio 2.0 so I can decide on weather or not to sell my Blue-Eyes stuff

How long until TDIL rarities?

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>nurse burn is now more consistent than RML exodia

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>>148750940
>No true scotsman fallacy.
That isn't a fallacy at all and you haven't proven dick. No ABC decks run the Karakuri engine in the current OCG meta so you bringing it to the discussion when it has zero fucking impact to the meta is irrelevant. I know you just learned about the logical fallacy shit from wikipedia but you're going to have to try a little harder to not make yourself look like a dumb high schooler if you want to try and argue with the big boys

Fucking petdeck fags I swear

>>148749112
Yeah.
>>148750986
There aren't enough Trade-In targets. Blue-Eyes have enough searchers for the targets... although I guess that the spell could search them.

>>148750940
>The only non Tier-1 deck to win in the past 3 months was Mermails.
are you fucking retarded?
majespecters and qliphorts have came in 1st place in state championships within the past three months, and those arent T1.
i will admit that majespecters had dracos and pals backing them up, but it was mainly a majespecter deck.

even if you do think those are T1, mermails came 3rd/4th, same with phantom knight lightsworn and yang zing, and those 2 sure as fucking hell are no where near T1.

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>>148750940
Your original complaint was that they needed to be hit because they make big boards.
We said that they don't and then you go to a petdeck build which does.
By that logic, fucking Resonators need to get hit because they can do shit like this.
Please get good and stop sprouting shit.

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Since they printed D3, I guess that means they are finally printing this

>>148751572
This is still the best webm of all time and I will show it to everyone that is new to yugioh.

>>148751283
BTFO

How will people who don't live and die by ygodr EVER recover?

>>148751009
The leaker seemed to have pulled everything so looks like there are no shortprints.

>>148751283
Let me break it down for you. My original statement was (>>148747703) "no deck should be able to create huge boards...". Do you see the word meta ANYWHERE in that post? No. I was talking about ANY deck in the game. It doesn't matter if it's Tier-1 or Tier-800. The response was (>>148749272) "...ABC doesn't make huge boards." In which I clearly said how they can (>>148750125).

Now continue to use fallacies and build a strawman like you just have by bringing up the meta game and basing your argument on that.

>>148751668
Hoooly shit D-Heroes really have shit support always. Why can't the "rival" Heroes get better fucking support?

>>148751572

>tfw used to do that with my Resonator deck
>tfw it got powercreeped to hell with Gofu and Sohaya

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>>148752136
>Literally no deck should be designed in a way I don't like: The Post

You might as well play a game like the Pokemon TCG senpai, almost every other TCG has at least one or two decks that are built around playing aggressively. I'm sorry you're such a beta that you can't deal with a *little* bit of testosterone in your children's card games

>>148752136
>Do you see the word meta ANYWHERE in that post?
>not about being butthurt, it's about making as many decks as possible competitively viable.
You just contradicted yourself right there.
Regardless, who cares if petdecks can make big boards?
They ain't doing shit important anyways so let them have their fun.

>>148751572
Synchro Masturbation isn´t relevant but it´s Nice to see it once in a while.
Can´t Believe how Casuals think thats what´s making them quit Yugioh when they´ll never come across an Overlord or a faggot who Spams with Gofu.

I can't see a way to build Ancient Gears that won't end up with me having enough bricks to build my own Gear Town with blackjack and hookers.

Would Metalphosis Ancient Gear work?

>>148752136
>"no deck should be able to create huge boards..."
then what you're saying is, no deck should be able to play yugioh.

every single fucking deck in the game can create a huge board.
fucking ice barriers can make treatoad
fucking arcana force can lock your opponent out of the game with the world
fucking cloudians can spam the field.
BAN CLOUDIANS BAN ICE BARRIERS

>>148752136
Nigger just run raigeki or dark hole. Building huge boards has plenty of checks and counters.

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>>148752172
>Hoooly shit D-Heroes really have shit support always.
EHeroes had practically the exact same shit tier support up until they got omniheroes.

Dheroes were had arguably way better support than heroes though. Destiny draw alone made them better than Eheroes.

>>148752521
Wait till you see the rest of their support. If they get more ways to spam the board with shit they will become a degenerate OTK powerhouse.

>>148751285
>>148750986
Jesus christ, thanks for the tip Anon; the deck is insanely consistent now.

>>148752521
Metal Enemies and basically anything will work.

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>>148752515
>Synchro Masturbation
WRONG, lowkey meta confirmed

>>148752589
Do D-HEROES have Miracle Fusion?
Do D-HEROES have E-Emergency Call?
D-HEROES were only a shitty draw engine before Konami went full retard and combined HEROES into one big archetype.
D-HEROES were good for TeleDAD and Airblade turbo while E-HERO had the Gemini Beat, Big and Little City and Bubble beat.

>>148751572
The very fact that the response was "they don't make boards" and then I prove they do, means I'm right. I never once said it only applies to meta decks. Balance the game as much as possible and make it as varied and diverse as possible.

>>148752361
Fallacies & strawmen. Can't actually refute me, admit you're wrong. That simple man.

>>148752523
That isn't what I am saying, but it's clearly what you're saying as you just said it.

>every single fucking deck in the game can create a huge board
Want me to prove that wrong as well? You're forgetting that I established it as (>>148747703) "...first turn". I guess you people really hate reading or just selectively refuse to take the entire post into account because then you wouldn't have an argument.

>>148752581
Summoning 2 monsters that can negate. Also you assume just because X exists to counter Y you'll always have X. If that was the case then no cards should be banned because there exists cards to "check and counter" them.

>>148752793
I don't think there'll be a way to have Metal Foes disappear from the meta without some heavy powercreep.

I mean, to kill the archetype you'd basically have to either errata every "and if you do" into "then" or limit, maybe even ban a few of their entire S/T card pool. Komoney were fucking high on something when they designed them.

>>148752875
>D-HEROES were only a shitty draw engine
Confirmed for new age player.

>>148752875
>Do D-HEROES have Miracle Fusion?
>Do D-HEROES have E-Emergency Call?
Those cards were utter garbage until Eheroes actually had good targets (omniheroes)

>D-HEROES were only a shitty draw engine
You mean the shitty draw engine that ran Perfect Circle and DaD decks which dominated a majority of the GX era?

EHeroes never had close to the amount of relevancy DHeroes did. Shit, fucking Plasma was a better boss monster than any Ehero shit put out.

>>148753086
>That isn't what I am saying, but it's clearly what you're saying as you just said it.
please stop posting

>>148753289
Nigger what the fuck do you call Bubble Beat and Alius shenanigans?

>>148753347
Nice job proving you can't refute me. It's almost sad that you refuse to admit defeat.

>>148753086
>make it as varied and diverse as possible.

Found the cu ck.

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>>148753086
Literally how is anybody supposed to attempt to "prove you wrong" when the entire basis of your argument boils down to "There are decks that play in a way I don't like, they should ban those decks"? It's not even an argument its just a really shitty opinion. Maybe, just maybe, there are people that LIKE playing those aggressive decks, regardless of whether they're meta or not, and Konami responds in kind by giving players more access to those decks, thereby, getting more money? It's not like there aren't other playstyles either, so your opinion is even more irrelevant.

It's like I'm really arguing with a freshman who just walked into Philosophy 101, these are the most annoying types of people to argue with. And good job using the fallacy fallacy all throughout this little diatribe of yours you dipshit

Please keep arguing, this is the fastest the board has been in weeks.

>>148753434
>you say no decks should be able to make big boards
>i say 3 absolute trash decks could make big boards, so by your logic they should be banned
>you say im not saying they should be banned, but you are :^)
>call out your retardation
>"haha! i w-win!"
again, please stop posting.