XCOM General - /xcg/

pistols are useful

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snek is for loving

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>>148613124

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>>148613124

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>>148613032

Is the pistol anon still compiling these posts?

>>148615562
No
Source: me

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>it's a "spawn on a cliff and activate three pods on turn one" episode

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>>148613342
>>148613690

its true

>>148615874

;_;

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>>148617716
Its that little extra work you know, and I got it to something that looks nice and complete. Maybe I'll pick up up again, but my main goal was to ingrain "pistols are useful" as a meme and pseudo truth and that mission has been accomplished

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>Trench Gun is a low-range Shredstorm
Is Johnny feeling alright? This is like reverse-magnificence and I'm loving every second of it.

>>148618617
alien pack isn't out yet.

>>148619247
How bad can it possibly be?

>>148619354
Don't say something you'll regret anon, this is Johnny we're talking about.

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>>148619354
Magnificent floaters and aliens who has squadsight visionrange for detecting stealthed xcoms

>>148618617
Wait, trench gun removes cover? I didn't think it would, sounded too good to be true since CCS already makes the class overpowered as fuck.

>>148618585
OOOOOOOOOO my GOSH. I cannot BELIEVE you posted A CYCLOPS. you.... ARE A MONSTER!!!

Does anyone know what the console command for spawning a tier 1 bolt caster in the inventory is?

My game bugged out after a mission and now I lost.

>>148619776
Only used it once so far, but yeah, it blew up pretty much all low cover in the way.

>>148619747
>squadsight visionrange for detecting stealthed xcoms
NOW we're talking.
Is there any ETA for the ayylien pack?

>>148620665
well hes right

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>>148614626
DELETE THIS
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>mfw LWS made melee overpowered

>>148619354
Honestly, unless it can match ABA with vanilla perks I might not get into it.

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>Viper Rounds op will give me some much needed supplies
>Unknown Event op - a useless engineer, but the event is probably something horrible
Should I try my luck, /xcg/?

>>148621818
Someone will undoubtedly reply with >"letting yourself get hit in the first place" but I'd say take the supplies and known threat rather than stop the hidden Op for a crap reward only for it to have been merely something as harmless as Midnight Raids or something.

>>148621818
>engineer,
>useless
What?

>>148622141
If he already has several lying around then yes, it's redundant. I'm trusting anon to not be a complete idiot here.

>>148621818
>a useless engineer

Are you playing on rookie?

>>148622092
That's what I'm thinking too. Fuck it, I'll go for it.
Knowing my luck though, the hidden event will probably be Vigilance or some shit.

>>148622141
Got 3 by the end of the second month, yet they don't have much to do because I'm more broke than New Greece right now.

>>148622340
Commander.

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>>148612890
>>[YouTube] 【MMD】いぁん(ﾉ´∀｀*)ｲァｲァ 【R-18?】

What is that shitty formation.
IA is a literallywho, her and Miku should be swapped around along with Haku and Luka.

IA-fag never make a thread ever again, please.

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>>148621818
>skip hidden event
>it was infestation

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>>148624675
...Welp, have fun with that anon.

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>>148624793
Sorry, not the same anon.
Purley theoretical situation.
until it happens to you

>>148624675
>>148624793
Avatar Breakthrough went off, so I still have no idea what's the hidden one.
Don't think Infestations can happen this early though.

How early should I be doing Shen's mission?

Does it affect Avatar progress?

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>tfw my main general was consumed by shitposting and autism
w-will you senpaitchis accept me?
I only played the old games back in the day, what has changed since then except for superior graphics?

>>148626092
Nope. Do it fucking late. It's JUST about possible to do it on ballistics but I really wouldn't.

Bring a lot of Combat-Protocol Specialists if you do. You probably won't have Bluescreen rounds at that point but it's recommended.

>>148626184
Wait, but I thought Shen's robits fall off really hard in the late-game?

>>148626170
Quite a lot. Movement are double-action based instead of granular TUs now. Skills increase set amounts per experience-based level up with special perks per level instead of action-based skill-training. You can now customize every bit of your soldiers like paper dolls. Since there are less troopers (up to six from four) each loss is more devastating and changes the dynamic of gameplay much more than in 94com. The GeoScape is much less analog and much more flowchart-based.

>>148626271
Yes, which is why SPARKs are shit. You get a free SPARK with the mission but they still cost the equivalent of four Rookies and two Heavy Weapons and some alloys.

There is ONE viable build right now (cone-fire powered weapons are actually REALLY USEFUL on a properly perked tank SPARK, much more than a Volatile Mix heavy) but they aren't really good otherwise.

>>148626271
To be clear, you do it when you have mags.

>>148626170
Give a hint at the general. I would imagine a lot of long term generals descend into shitposting from time to time. This one isn't any exception.

In regards to games, depends on which ones. The latest iterations have stripped out, or down, a number of features.
>Don't build multiple bases any more
>Inventory management was streamlined to picking one or two items to bring along and what armor to use (all weapons/armor in the squad upgrade at once when completing research)
>Air game reduced, or removed
>Base defenses mostly gone outside of special circumstances
>Instead of having a number of points to dedicate to movement and actions, you have two 'units', and each one (or both) gets eaten up by any action (such as move [set distance] -> shoot)
That's not to say the new games are bad by any means. They're just different, as less management means you can focus a lot more on the what remains instead of having to worry too much about macro gameplay.

Like >>148626556 said, they did add the ability to customize soldiers as well, so you can make your squad feel a lot more personal. You have to worry more about each loss as well, as they noted, which means the game doesn't end up being a meat grinder that you throw rookies into.

So essentially - different. Some people are even still playing the original 94com here, or a modded version of it, but there are others playing the latest two as well.

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I gotta say, taking up a position inside a darkened room can really make you appreciate the dynamic lighting in this game. I reloaded my save post-mission specifically to get another shot at screencapping this with F12, apparently trying to just use print-screen results in getting a picture of when you last alt-tabbed instead.

>>148626184
>>148626271
I managed to do it with ballistics without any losses but that was on commander, I'd wait for at least mag rifles just to be on the safe side.

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>>148621818
Hey, could be worse. Getting them supplies from Viper Rounds op was the right choice then.

>Sectoid summoner activated himself on his turn
>opened a portal
>AND summoned a berserker all on the same turn
>the berserker then lunged at us, but died to overwatch out the ass
oh god what the fuck

>>148626170
Grab OpenXcom for good old fashioned fun with interface improvements like hotkeys. You'll need the UFO/TFTD files. Plus it has mods to change things up. A few of us here lay Piratez, which is a full conversion mod.

Does anyone here know the solution for the CTD in Long War that happens immediately after EXALT mission map load?

>>148632226
Don't use an old Long War version.

Are faceless supposed to be triggering from 10-15 spaces away?
Last I played was on release and they only triggered if all other aliens are dead or if you walk ontop of them. In my last two ironmans I've lost because I somehow trigger the two faceless seemingly randomly.

>>148617960
its not a meme, pistols are useful
gunslinger dishes out damage
>oneshotting anything if its not legend

just a new one with
>salvo is useful on all classes

>>148634000

Assuming you're not exagerating with the 10-15 spaces thing, then no, they aren't supposed to do that.

They sometimes trigger when you're close to them even if you don't actually go touch them, but i don't think they do from 10-15 tiles away.

Unless all the other aliens are dead, then they immediately transform.

>weapon types simply displayed as 'unavailable' even though that class is flagged to be able to equip them, and said weapon can be equipped by rookies

is there some kind of retarded limit on the number of primary weapons that can be 'available' for a soldier?

>>148635613
No. Some classes are borked due to mod updates and you have to go into their .ini and change a setting. I don't recall the precise setting though, sorry. Check that class's comments on the Workshop, you'll probably find people talking about it and the solution as well.

Anyone know of a reason to not be able to carry unconscious soldiers? Got a warning about it on a hostile VIP mission...

>>148637106
Being on fire?

>>148637583
No it was in the squad load out screen, and no one could pick up my bleeding out ranger after gremlin stabilized her. Must be a conflict with something, beatdown mod maybe?

>>148637759
Reload?

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>get a 10/10 squad with French qt, Irish qt, Swedish blonde qt, badass German qt
>they fail every single flank and get Gatecrasher'd

>next team has 2 balding ginger dudes with the same face and the only girl is a bald iranian
>ace Gatecrasher

>>148637796
The icon was not even there. Completely missing. Before I deployed there was a pop up warning that my squad did not have anyone capable of carrying the Dark VIP... now KO'd troops are dead and I'm hard fucked.

>>148637882
This is what the customization menu is for, anon. They don't hand you a character pool so you can just leave it to rot.

>>148638686
No, those guys earned their victory, I'm sticking with those ugly faces.

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>just need to mop up a few more Chryssalids to end a retaliation mission
>They go sprinting into the forest together

>>148639158
Mein neger.

Currently my ace Ranger is ugly as fuck nigger, but she just cant stop slaughtering them ayys and not taking damage from anything.
She has earned her place.

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Missionposter anon returns, with a new mission (and a dope fucking Skyranger). Here's the crew we're taking out to our first Supply Raid. I've got a few new guns (Matt Hudson has Backfire, a XCOM X-9 rifle with Hangfire Propellant and I think an expanded mag; Boyd has Chuckles, an automatic shotgun with a lightweight frame and something else cool). Ben Hudson is carrying Betsy, a XCOM LMG with a mag I slapped on it. We've also got Tariq Rose, apparently some ex-ADVENT trooper who wanted the XCOM life as a rookie.

Let's see how this goes, anons.

>>148640970
Ok, checked. Chuckles has a Stock and a Lightweight Frame. Also, it's Matt and James Hudson, not Ben Hudson, I'm a dope.

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>>148640970
Well, it's gone kinda ploin shaped to start. We found the Kommissar/Headhunter pod on the right very early and managed to take the high ground without alerting them. However, a pod of mini-lids has walked up on us. I'm debating how to engage here.

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>>148641470
Killed everyone, though Boyd managed to miss 3/4 CQC shots, and a sword swing, and a Fleche attack. She took a stab from a lid and the rookie took two axe hits from the Headhunter (though he did kill the Kommissar, which was nice). Ramon is re-stealthed and scouting ahead now.

>>148642037
Jeez-oh-man, found the next pod, which looks like two of them joined up. A sectoid, a viper, a stun lancer, a wrecker, and a heavy, all together. Fuuuuuu-

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>>148642219
Wow I'm bad at this.

>>148638245
>there was a pop up warning that my squad did not have anyone capable of carrying the Dark VIP

That's new.

Dont do that spark/shen mission straight away in legend mode, it's a damn trap. Fucking firaxis are incompetent.

On VIP missions if the shit really hits the fan just ditch the subdued/knockedout vip worse case scenario, unless its a random bug I had no ill effects it just counted it as me killed the VIP, so I only lost the intel bonus.

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>>148642391
Engaged the pods. Took a nearby building, managed to draw both pods with everyone in decent spots. CQC+Fleche did work on the viper and the sectoid, rookie was in low cover but survived the wrecker's shot, stun lancer went for the stun, hit Hudson, but didn't stun (thank the king), current projections are positive.

Why are the ayys killing all my sharpshooters? I have none now and have to retrain rookies but all the missions are difficult level.

What should I do/am doing wrong? Does mission difficulty ramp up with a higher avatar timer?

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>>148643451
Made it through alright. Rookie leveled into a Bruiser (he had 6 health by default, which is pretty good). Also, Matt Hudson got an amazing AWC perk: Run and Gun. He's pretty damn solid.

>>148643658
Don't place sharpshooters within aliens LOS

That can actually help you set up flanks by the way. Move your sniper away from the lane on which your regular troops are advancing, and when a pod is triggered, you could get flank shots with him

>>148643832
Brief lunch break, back shortly.

>>148643853
yeah but he died from a mind controlled point blank chaingun to the face :( that got out of control and some bad misses up in the 80% mark.

The ayys will always pick the sharpshooter for some reason.

>>148645092
Lower health = higher chance of killshots

>>148645249
Yeah I figured, same as in long war by the looks of it. I guess I should put health pcs on my sharpshooters and vests earlygame..

I wish there was a proper bronzeman mode out. Ironman sucks when you just get back into the swing of xcom and also the first mission of the day always turns into a nightmare.

So modding and interest has died off a fair bit again.

>>148645976
>wanting to savescum

>>148621223
Wait until the alien pack: Everyone above pectoids will have magnificent counter attacks, including poisoning one fo sneks and stunning ones for ALL Advent

>>148646101
Ill savescum all over your face in a minute.

>>148646441
Don't reply to my posts you savescumming pleb

>>148646540

don't talk to me or my savegames ever again

>>148634941
If he triggered two randomly, then he killed all the other ayys

>>148634000
When you kill everyone in the terror missions, the two faceless in the map reveal themselves (unless you reveal them before)

>>148646729
kek

>>148646913
Faceless reminds me of an oiled up bbw

why are there still hangs when I kill aliens?

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>activate a pod via run n gun sprint across the map
>civ runs away from the pod, straight into my belgian assault
>the only way to save the civ is to nail a 15% crit
>BELGIUM STRONG saves the poor woman in need
>the civ is a faceless
EVERY
TIME

>>148647285
Because Jake hates you.

>>148647183
He also hates you.

>>148647616
I always thought that Faceless civs shouldn't run from ADVENT forces, giving you a neat way to sorta track and spot them. It'd be hard, with no indicator or anything, but it'd really reward observant players.

>>148641470
Ploin shaped? Cain approves.

>>148647757
I thought for sure that's how it actually works. But fuck me, I guess.

>>148647757
Nah man, one of the best things is a running civ triggering ADVENT overwatch and turning out to be a faceless. Makes my day every time.

>>148647757
I've seen faceless civs get hit by ADVENT overwatch when they run

>Clear a house that the hackable workstation is in
>As I approach the station, activate a Muton pod outside
>Flashbang the group to get ready to fight
>Muton shoots at my Ranger, misses, but destroys the workstation in the process

Even when they lose, they win.

>>148647616

OUT FUCKING SKILLED

>>148647823
Is that from Legacy of Cain? I didn't know that. Sweet.

>>148647945
>>148647989
For real? That's hilarious, but probably unintended. You'd think ADVENT knows who their faceless are.

>Grenadier gets hit with Viper venom
>Immediately panics
>Runs over near my Psi Operative and hunkers down
>[Psi Operative] is poisoned

Wait, what the fuck? Poison can be spread by proximity to poisoned soldiers as well as the huge gas cloud?

>>148648036
>destroy the device mission
>two turns in it randomly goes down and the objective is completed
>turned out the andromedon beside it decided to walk right through it

>>148643832
>those wound times
wtf

>>148648267
No, it's pretty much Commissar Cain's favourite phrase for when things go to shit in the Ciaphas Cain, Hero of the Imperium series of WH40K fiction.

(Ploin being the WH40K pear analogue)

>>148649302
xcg
xcom cheaters general

when will the alien mission show up?
i did the scan and got the weapons but nothing so far in a month

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>>148649302
I have an AWC and it's staffed? I haven't fiddled with wound times at all otherwise.

>>148649474
Ah, I see.

Also, new mission. Neutralizing a VIP. Here's the team.

>>148650390
>Also, new mission. Neutralizing a VIP. Here's the team.
So, I loaded the mission and X2 immediately crashed. I reloaded the game, my closest autosave was about 5 minutes of dicking around earlier. I finished things up the way I did before, but I got a different council mission. I've now saved and exited, to try and figure out why it crashed to start with (also, True Concealment appears to be bugged, it's not working and I'm unclear why).

tl;dr: Technical difficulties, stand by.

>>148650390
Yeah, not implying you're cheating or anything, just surprised. Your team would have been fucked for a few weeks on legendary.

>>148651407
Yeah, was really pretty low. Not sure what's up with that. I'm on Commander, perhaps that's the issue?

>>148651763
Yes, wound recovery depends on difficulty.

>>148651315
Well, we're back. True Concealment still seems bugged to not work on VIP neutralization missions, but oh well. Same exact team as above (I did change out Pierce's weapon for a Magnetic Compact Carbine though, on second thought). Here's the situation, taking this roof and seeing if we can't sneak up on and murderize some ADVENT before they know we're here.

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>>148652486
I'm still bad at pictures.

>>148652374
Good to know.

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I think one of my mods fucked with the game because after purchasing the advanced grenade launcher tech it doesn't show up at all and i'm stuck with the vanilla launcher.

Whats the command to manually add it?

>>148652660
Thanks to the power of Silent takedown on the SpecOps Combat Knife combined with Fleche, we've got 1 ADVENT down before we break concealment. Bad news is that there's a Titan, with a Kommissar, nearby. Looks like this is gonna get hairy.

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>>148653110

>>148648036
>>148649292
>Workstation hack mission
>several turns of hard fighting as somehow 3 pods were all within los of each other and activated all at once
>start moving toward the workstation
>a sectopod walks through it and blows the op

I'm pretty sure the ADVENT knows what you're trying to fucking do.

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>>148653341
A few turns later, we've handled the Viper pod and the Titan pod (Fleche, comes through again; man that skill is really powerful). We also pulled two Sectoid pods, one after another. Just took out he first (sectoids and cars, man). Working on the second one now.

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>>148654172
Wrapped them up in a single turn (sections love cars, don't they?). Faced down the reinfocements with a nice overwatch trap.

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>>148654172
(Fucked up and didn't get a shot of the team on the Avenger). We took a single wound, on Tariq Rose, the Bruiser. An ADVENT Kommissar took a shot and hit him for 6, it was a close call.

Overall though, a highly successful mission. He's out for 7 days though.

Yo /xcg/. Just picked up XCOM 2 and it just kicked my ass to the point I'm probably going to start over clean. But before I do, I was wondering- any mods you guys think are good and don't ruin the experience for a first playthrough?

Also, I remember in the first game, there were options for rookies to have more randomized stats and to mix up the skill trees, but I'm not seeing them here- do you have to beat the game to unlock them first, or are they just not available?

>>148655480
Go to the modlist in the OP, then get pretty much everything in the Quality Of Life section

Also worth going to the workshop, sorting by top rated, then going through the first 5-10 pages picking things like cosmetic mods or quality of life improvements

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>>148655010
Ok anons, about 2 weeks have passed in game and some stuff's happened. We have Predator Armor, I found out that the armor slot on the Shock Trooper is bugged (again), we unlocked both DLC missions, and we're off to do Shen's Last Gift. Here's the team, such as they are (visuals updated for Predator Armor).

>>148655480

You can get the randomized stats via Long War Toolbox. Training roulette is a different mod I believe

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>>148657016
Working through the first floor now, we're down to the last mech (seen here as about to be shot at; she hit but didn't kill).

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>>148658341
>Gunline Protocol Activated

Just double checking, but if I move and then fire, RFA doesn't activate, right?

>>148634174
Just because it's a meme doesn't mean its not true. Break LOS is a legitimate tactic and meme, simultaneity.

>>148659384
RFA?

>>148659493
Ready For Anything.
Long War question, should have specified.

>>148642749
>Walk into a trap
>get rekt
Whose incompetent :^)

anyone else here think T3 "plasma" weapons are more like blue-green lasers?

>>148659536
moving is a costly action

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>get to the top of Julian's tower
>oh no, a spooktopod
>prepare for a long fight
>after stunning, shredding, and otherwise debuffing the thing, this happens at the end of the first turn
Oh
Okay...

>>148648997
Yes, poison can transfer to adjacent soldiers. It's an intended feature, you can even find the line for it in one of the .ini files.

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>>148622936
>>IA is a literallywho...

That hurt.

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>>148659213
2nd level, moving forward slowly. Took a few wounds (one mech got close and managed to run all of my overwatches to explode for some damage on two troopers).

>>148617960
where is the webm of ocelot as an xcom agent taking down 6 exalts?

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>first time using the Leader pack
>get Collector for my gunner leader
>pic related happens on her next promotion
LUUUUUUUMP

>>148660903
What's happening here

>>148646441
Not like you'll be able to anyway. Didn't the last update kill loading mid mission?

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>Gas Sectoid
>Starts praying towards Mecca

>>148659761

Yes, that's what it is.

>>148660903
>take Get Some on my second leader
>next promotion, it turns out Get Some is his AWC perk
I HAVE BEEN TRICKED
FOR THE LAST TIME

>>148661170
Nothing but the purest manner of magnificence.

>>148660903
>>148661735
This honestly seems like Not Working As Intended, you might want to go post about it in the Long War Studios forums so they can patch it out.

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>>148660072
>Gunline 2: Electric Boogaloo

>>148661518
proper plasma wwhere?

>>148662002

never

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>>148662078
When merc weapons anon finishes his genius.

Also, damn this game can look good when it wants to.

>>148662002
Spectrum mod, but they use the Beam models

tfw a camo mod is broken when using evac and now you wasted a whole mission

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>>148662462
Wrapping up 2nd floor. These turrets have an annoying amount of armor, actually.

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>>148663474
JAAAAAAAAAKE

So, it turns out that Julian will activate the Sectopod regardless of if you can see it or not. I needed a turn or two to recharge abilities. NOT GONNA GET IT. BUCKLE YOUR SPHINCTERS, BOYS.

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ayyyy

lmao frost grenade

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>>148664453
Whittling it away. Almost lost our actual Specialistt, Glitch. So far though, we might make it. Maybe.

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>>148665393
And /xcg/ gets the kill! Well done, anon!

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>>tfw EW weapon/armor designs still do it for me.

I really like them.

>>148666005
And with that, I'm taking a brief break. Gotta stretch, get a drink, etc. I'll continue later, if anyone's still watching.

>>148666432

They hit it on the nail with EW/Eu's armor visuals. I loved, aside of no sleeves, all the armor and all the weapons. While it's a shame we don't have fat globs of plasma anymore I am dying to get to anon's mercenary plasma pack so I can have great big beams of death

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Is this cheating?

>>148666432

I love the armor, the weapons not so much.

>>148667962
It's called MAGNIFICENT DESIGN my friend

>>148666432
They'll get ported SOON

Mr Kablammofish you are magnificent

>>148667962
I actually kind of like it, its like they are repelling into the building

>>148663321
anyone know if the marine armor has issues with evacing out of a mission?

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>>148667605
>>no sleeves

I still can't understand what was going through their heads when they come up with that idea..

>>148669057
>>SOON.jpg

Good to know. Looking forward to that.

>>148671989
I don't confirm anything it's just wishful thinking that he'll port everything.

I base it entirely on the fact that modders are 99% autistic completionists

I also hope he'll port The Bureau's assets

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Grimy loot can really make a mess of things

>>148672369
Seems fair

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>>148672369
>Manage to unbox 3 bolt casters, and one of them gives a soldier an extra movement point
I fucking love it.

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So I assume this is known, but if you use a ranger (or shinobi if you are on LW2 perks) in concealment to spy out an enemy patrol, then sent your sniper to long overwatch you can do the pre-release beagle trick of baiting them into your overwatch ambush on their turn. Just have your squad in position not in sight o the enemy but where they will run towards when your sniper makes the shot.

>>148671989

Superhero/GI joe. I think Xcom has been a constant back and forth between that theme/style and the more grim realistic milsim theme/style.

>>148672369
...what in the name of the gods does that gun *have*?

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>>148672369

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>>148668121

Why?

>>148673471
It turns out that the Thunder and Lightning mod stacks if you put it on both the rifle and pistol. Combine that with a Maximum Caliber clip and an ammo synthesizer and you have a railgun.

>>148674236
He's probably referring to the plasma weapons more specifically.

At this point I am pretty sure the game is telling me not to use a sparks.

Spark1 - died on first op (Not the one you get him on)
Spark2 - died on first op
Spark3 - almost died because I withdrew him from the frontline after getting double whammied, and literally the pistol shot the faggot comissar fired that missed one of my guys went and set a vehicle on fire that brought spark3 to 2 HP and 1 armor.

For costing 150 supplies and 10 days on legendary you'd figure their starting aim wouldn't be literally as dogshit as a rookie's.

>>148674437
>>148674236

Yeah, i was referring mostly to the plasma weapons. Ballistics are fine, lasers are okish too but i prefer mag weapons, plasma weapons i like the shotgun, but everything else is meh. I don't like the Xcom2 plasma weapons because they don't fit the theme of guerilla Xcom, but other than that they look ok. Should've given them to high level Advent instead though.

>>148676506
EXALT laser weapons a best.

>>148676862
This anon, right here? He knows what the fuck is up.

>>148676989
>inb4 some absolute madman ports in EXALT laser weapons as Laser weapons AND Plasma weapons

>>148676506
Plasma tier is always too eager to try and bring that feeling of "NOW ITS AN EQUAL FOOTING, YOUR TECH IS JUT LIKE THEIRS NOW" which undercuts the underdog appeal of XCOM

>>148677154
someone already did their outfits, wouldn't it just be a matter of time?

>>148677206
I mean, in x-com you just literally used their guns, so it made sense.

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This new ship is pretty cool. Look at all those bright lights.

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Can bloom love on the fields of battle?

>>148679738
Ask LIVII

>>148679738
Who's the other character?

>>148681005

Looks like Lara Croft.

What does /xcg/ think about Afterlight and Aftershock?

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>>148679462
>Land
>Stun anyone who resists
>Wake up one enemy so the mission doesn't auto end
>He watches as my crew industriously carries all of their boxes and cargo back to the ship
>Takeoff and leave
It's a pretty silly operation I'm running really.

>>148646913
>If he triggered two randomly, then he killed all the other ayys
No, they'd randomly trigger when im in middle of fighting a squad or two of ayy's and then I get fucked since I have to fight a mountain of hp bars with four lowbies.

>>148682442
Aftershock was best

>>148682551
Is this a mod for the original?

>>148683445
Yes, PirateZ

>>148683512
Looks interesting.

>>148683668
There are three major overhauls mods for openxcom right now: FMP (final mod pack), PirateZ, and Area51.

I've played FMP and PirateZ, haven't tried Area51 yet. PirateZ is definitely my fav right now.

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>>saleelul sawarim nasheedul ayylmao, wa darbul gitaly tariqul hayayyyyylmao fa baynag tihamin yubidu tughayyy walmao kateem mustawim jamilun sadah behi azadini w gala bughayyyy

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I never got around to playing long war before xcom 2 came out, should I go back for it?

>>148684624
yes,post progress here

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>>148682551
Shortest post mission report I've for a "successful" mission.

>>148684624
I definitely think its worth it. Yes.

>>148683864
>There are three major overhauls
You're forgetting Xeno Operations, for a grand total of 4 overhaul conversions.

Also, it would be 5 major overhauls, if i would ever fucking get around to working on the fucking project i have... but that's /adgd/ apathy feels, i guess.

>>148684624
For sure

It's a very magnificent mod, and really changes the shit that goes on

I'd advise going through the defaultgamecore.ini first though and gutting a few numbers, as this mod is a bit too magnificent. The only ones I can recommend out of the bat is halving everything aircraft related(repair, rearm, transfer). Long Dong is notorious for the air game

>>148685186
You are never going to finish it unless you start working on it

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>>148685186
>Xeno Operations
Haven't heard of it before, but it looks interesting. That's some impressive sprite work they've done.

Truly openxcom is the golden age of x-com.

What's the concept behind you're overhaul?

>>148685647
>xeno operation
Some kind of colonial marines overhaul ?

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>>148685853
>Xeno Operations is a large expansion mod that verges on a total conversion. It adds new weapons, armor, aliens, and maps. It also reworks much of the spritework such as overhauling the artwork for the UFOs and Alien Base. With all of the new content, the tech tree has also been extended in order to give the player enough time to play with all of the new toys.
I don't think so.

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So Area 51 adds council missions

>>148686257
Aww.
Thanks tho

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>>148685439
>You are never going to finish it unless you start working on it

[CAN'T WAKE UP]

Seriously though, modding OpenXcom is like trying to piece together a jet engine with only a picture of the final product to guide you.

There are so many pitfalls and esoteric knowledge points behind both game mechanics and the community modding tools, it becomes psychologically draining: Did you know that armor will only take damage if it fails to stop damage? Did you also know that the amount of damage armor takes has a hardcoded limit at 10% of what passes through? Did you know that if an attack is missing some animation, the entire fucking program just shuts off without a crash screen?

... Someone calls you on the phone or away from the computer, that's it for the day; you've spoiled your focus and can't return to working on the project because you WILL come back and say "What the fuck was i doing?" while looking at a 2+ megabyte plaintext file, 3/19ths near the bottom of 2000+ lines in notepad (not wordpad) that follows specific YAML coding rules, where even A SINGLE SPACE OR PERIOD OR SEMICOLON ENTRY can cause the entire fucking thing to crash the interpreter on load-up.

I honestly have no idea how the Piratez and FMP guys managed to stomach their way through it, even with the power of mega-autism guiding them

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>>148686373
>these bugs on the first mission+floaters

>>148687195
They have the dedication and autism you lack,just like any developer that has actually finished a game.

t. I finished a game and now i don't want to make another one

>>148687330
What game?

>>148670239
Is this the Halo gear?

>>148687195
Forgive my ignorance, but you can't use a program like Notepad++, or is it not beneficial?

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>>148687492
a shitty small one that took longer that it should have

>>148687934
>automatic crossbow
Fuck balance amirite ?

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>>148688018
>#BrokenSunday

>>148687628
The reach marine armor, yeah.

>>148685647
>What's the concept behind [your] overhaul?

After so many failed attempts and concepts (recreate XCOM:EW; generic alien-invasion mod theme; modern military theme) all of which i was unhappy with, i was intending to do something cyberpunk that completely avoids the concept of aliens being involved, except as a secret spoiler/joke element.

but then, basically, >>148687195

>>148687197
I actually stopped playing Piratez because in a few maps the terrain was legitimately bugged out with floating bits that had no business being there.

It's a game that's been put through the wringer of a new engine, old assets, old rules, and then further tortured with seemingly ad-lib mod constraints.

It's a fucking miracle of legitimately hard work that OpenXcom works at all, to be honest.

>>148688815
When he said bugs, I think he meant literal alien bugs, not game bugs.

>>148689574
Looking at the screenshot and seeing that shade of green (TM) I immediately thought "a muton got on that roof, that must be the bug he's talking about"
Didn't even notice it was a screenshot of waspites.

>>148690129
When was the last time you played PirateZ? I haven't noticed anything broken on version I'm on.

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>mfw waspites

>>148690638
latest version of openxcom extended, during a 'bring down the watch tower' in a forest area. there's a bugged out piece of landscape which has floating ramps on it that causes bugged pathfinding.

The last few people to post missions have just made me wonder why /xcg/ is so bad at this game.

>>148695436
Well, missions like those wouldn't be worth posting if it was all

>oh no look at this menacing group of ayys
>a: wipe out literally everything anyway
>b: they survive and get meme beaconed
>repeat

>>148695436
Like the other anon said, most people don't post missions in their comfort zone.

>>148626271
If you do it late (advanced/elite advent) then they are fucking WORTHLESS. Maybe it's because of ABA and all other mods and shit but holy fuck I have literally now had spark1 and spark2 die on their very first op and spark3 die on his second op because he was hit twice. Once by an auto-doc MEC and once by a sectoid and gg no re. It's fucking ridiculous:
-they cost as much as >>148626556 notes
-they can't take cover
-they have on predator armor tier literally 1 more armor than a grenadier with blast padding (and if you have heavy armor item then a grenadier can have as much armor as a MEC and take cover).
-Their aim is dogshit and unless you mod-cheat you can't put accessories on their weapon
-They don't get the 2-3 grenades of a grenadier, just a single heavy weapon attack. I think, either it's one of the mods I am running or it's true in vanilla but that you can unlock a tech that may allow you more than one shot.
-You can't ever buy a new one at the black market or HQ so if you don't have one leveled up real high by mid/late game you're never ever going to have a use for one. I can either buy a high grade soldier for cheaper and quicker than a Spark and better.

I'm getting pissed how there has been literally one thing in all the DLC so far I really love and it's the fucking frost grenade. I like Firaxis, I like Solomon, and Xcom2 is a pretty solid base game but what the fuck is going on there with these DLC?

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So I met the Archon ruler today. Needless to say, I was not prepared.

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>>148698401

TOLD YOU

>>148698114

Makes me want to compare it with the MEC in Xcom1, the same way they made flashbangs dogshit outside of anti-psi compared to Xcom1 (-25 disorient in Xcom2, -50 in Xcom1).

http://xcom.wikia.com/wiki/MEC_Trooper
http://xcom.wikia.com/wiki/SPARK_(XCOM_2)

Base attributes:
-MEC gets either CQC damage reduction (-33%), closest enemy aim penalty and critical hit immunity from closest, platform stability or distortion field.
-All Mecs get 60% protection against critical hits
-All mecs get immunity to poison (http://xcom.wikia.com/wiki/Poison_Spit) and I am pretty sure immune to fire too.

-Spark gets overdrive with -15% aim to each shot, being cumulative (first is -15, second is -30, third is -45), shreds armor, immune to fire/poison, can hack.

So Spark has advantage with shred armor. Disadvatange (at first at least) with overdrive, cannot be healed by medkits parity with immunity. MEC gets better critical hit protection, same immunity, can be healed by medkits. Only thing else a Spark does better is it gives high cover to any friendly while distortion field is just a hit negation chance for allies.

>>148698114
I'm in the exact same shoes. ABA and a ton of other shit, and I haven't even gone and done Shen's mission because I know it's just going to be a waste of time as I'm not going to be using SPARKs. They were decently fun in a vanilla campaign but that's long gone, something that I'm never touching again.

Even back there, in pressure situations they would routinely fail to perform under anything but a tank job. Garbage aim, no special equipment, special abilities being vary lackluster in a variety of ways, it's just an all around shit show.

>>148698823
I miss MECs. Their aim tended to be equally as dogshit as SPARKs(outside of Jaegars anyway), but you could offset that easily with powerful tools. Take a flamethrower(or two), the KSM, tac sensors and an incendiary module and now you got a MEC with a solid job, to dismantle groups of organics and to shit on single targets with a guaranteed hit. That's just one set up.

SPARKs? No special equipment or anything, everything relied upon from the abilities, most providing either piss poor damage or not enough practical use.

Is it unfair to compare Long Dong MECs to Vanilla SPARKs? Possibly, but here's the thing. In making XCOM 2, they were obviously learning from what we liked in Long War, and took it as an inspiration. So why on earth did they not look to how MECs were handled in Long Dong?

>>148698823

Also advantage spark is that it is immune to mind control or other psionic mind attacks. I'll spare the spam of comparing the rest but I think just removing that obnoxious aim disadvantage on overdrive would do wonders to make them more competitive. I can't see anything that is an actual disadvantage like that for a MEC. All their abilities were a positive, not a backhanded positive like overdrive.

>>148698401
Archon ruler is such fucking bullshit. His pinions shit stunning is way too strong with the area covers and how it only takes 2 ruler reactions and happens way too often.

I'm still furious his first appearance for me was a fucking blue move from the avenger ramp on a defense mission.

>>148699552

>So why on earth did they not look to how MECs were handled in Long Dong?

Because Sparks are just a cheap shit hack job they did for a DLC just because one of the first mods was "playable mecs", maybe with the expansion we'll either get useful sparks or a better class.

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>>148699973
He's pretty cool, tho.

>>148700224
>Because Sparks are just a cheap shit hack job they did for a DLC just because one of the first mods was "playable mecs", maybe with the expansion we'll either get useful sparks or a better class.
Could you refrain from spewing this kind of crap with no facts to back it up.

>>148699552

Since you are in the same shoes as I was:

-Bluescreen and AP and magnetics and it will be almost boringly easy. I even took only 6 people (Lily and 5) instead of the 7 I had unlocked. Since the pod increase of ABA doesn't seem to apply in that DLC it was fair.

(And since I just bitched about the mecs there >>148698823 replying to your second bit): you're right on the money about how their specialized abilities made them really great.

Admittedly I am thinking more recently of LW Mecs rather than vanilla MECs, but I remember in vanilla at least they were fun and solid if not highly specialized like they were in LW. And look over their vanilla abilities and it's all pretty good if 'boring' stuff. Another advantage for spark over MEC is jetboots are pre-included without having to choose a perk & one-for-all is vs bulwark bringing one-for-all + armor in one package. Spark Repair has the potential to be better than repair servos..problem is -getting- there. Fuck, just looking at the vanilla abilities and you know maybe a spark isn't half bad - but it's damn well impossible to actually level one up in mid to late game because they are so fragile.

Also what you said at the end. Even without long dong you had at least the base class upgrade to a MEC give an influencial and always present ability that dictated your direction of the MEC.

>>148700374

Only if you FIX YOUR GAME

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is the Field Medic perk broken for Long War Perk pack or is it just me? It's supposed to give my soldier a total of 4 charges but I still only have 2 charges......

>>148700616
you have been visited by the Angry Firaxis Gamer

good fortune and low percentage hits will come to you, but only if you say FIX YOUR GAME, JAKE

>>148701153
>implying this won't bring bad rng

>>148700428

And as long as I am bitching, I feel like "fighting against the fog of war" is a lot more of an issue in Xcom2 than it was in Xcom1. By fighting the fog of war I mean having to maneuver and move in gimmicky ways to avoid activating another pod. I'm not talking about going YOLO running into the fog of war but "if you move one tile to the left against this low fence in the middle of the road you will activate an enemy pod." but a single step to the right and you're in the clear.

I don't know what the solution is because having them stand idly by until their turn means you would slaughter them mercilessly the second you encountered them. Maybe they get -1 AP on their turn following discovery so they can still attack you but they can't get a free 2AP move on discovery and then 2action points on their turn. Or I need to install that "all pods activate on concealment break". I don't want it to be a cheat, I'm just getting bored with how the safest option is still like in Xcom1 a WW1 style "hunker down and blow up their cover and snipe them". Even doing a little tactical move of a blue move to get a flanking shot and you'll proc another pod. So 9/10 I'll aim to have a Shinobi/ranger in concealment 24/7 so I can have my sniper bait the enemy squad with a long watch shot during their turn into wasting their free move into my overwatch ambush. It's not fun, but it's a lot safer than dealing with the dogpiling of Xcom2.

Honestly the introduction of hard-timers was treating the symptom of overwatch spam and not the disease of why it was such a dominant strategy - it's because of the obscene risk of doing anything aggressive.

>>148701509
the solution is to get an Activate All Pods mod

>>148701153
FIX YOUR GAME, JAKE

>>148701635

Yeah that's what I'll do in a bit.

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That feel when.

>>148697719
>>148697121
But /xcg/s comfort zone is tiny

and people get into shitshows they shouldn't be in to begin with.

>>148702608
>But /xcg/s comfort zone is tiny
How would you know?

>>148674457
Only tank sparks are useful, and only because they REALLY synergize very well with conefire powered weapons.

Just wandering here, but what the fuck is Ironmeme?

>>148702854
Ironman. Where you can't save and reload. People call it that because it can get you screwed and mess up you're entire save if there's a game breaking bug or glitch.

>>148703005

Saw someone play with stuff like "Ayylien practice target", "paid vacation" and such on endscreen, so thats why I'm slightly confused.

>>148703101
They were just using a text replacer that changes the standard game text with memes or other silly messages.

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Spokesman no ;~;

>>148703167

Ah, alright. Thanks for the info.

>>148703362
I'm sure he'll be back for XCOM 3: Underwater Boogaloo.

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>>148684834
Kidnap missions are fun too. Got three Church Higher Ups.

>>148703101
its a shitposting localization mod. it's bretty gud

>>148703362
One day I will make a mod showing him escaping

He'll have a shadow texture on in the light of noon and more abilities than Bradford

>>148703570

Got a link?

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>>148703468
Pretty sure this is the Necronomicon of the x-com universe.

>>148703931
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=623425061&searchtext=ayy+lmao

>>148704051

Danke.

>Activate a squad of Mutons in a retaliation mission
>One of the Mutons goes into Overwatch
>A civilian runs in front of him and activates it
>Muton misses and gives me an opening to fuck their world up

That man will be President someday.

>>148704212
>civilian is faceless

>>148704278

That was the first thing that crossed my mind when I saw what happened. He just ran past my squad and into the night

Pretty sure a Berserker crushed his wife's skull though

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>>148703986
Was a bit off, more plot then I thought. The Church of Sirius appears to be a bit more complex in their beliefs and motivations then I had first believed.

>>148688227
Have had problems with it. Not evac related buy I couldn't carry unconscious soldiers and I think it might be the armours... odd because they'd purely cosmetic.

Is there an upgraded version of the freeze grenades?

>>148706829
Yeah I'm trying to evac an unconscious soldier with it on and it's bugging out.

>>148705353
Final mod pack, or UFO Redux?
I might try Piratez a bit later.

>>148708484
I think FMP is nice start. Lot's of new mechanics that other overhaul mods use and an expanded strategic game, but still much closer to the core of vanilla x-com.

>>148708484
>UFO Redux
Now its called Area 51,its harder than Vanilla and FMP

>>148709265
I should have realised that from the description of the facility mission above, and the one at the XCOM wiki.

>>148709730
no wait,im describing what is UFO Redux,that pic is from PirateZ

>>148710072
I meant this one >>148686373
I think it's the only picture from Area51 here I think , all the rest are from pirateZ, (and the new XCOMs).

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>>148705353
I could not have predicted this outcome, though it is intriguing.

Trying to get into the X2 modding scene, but for some reason the modbuddy doesn't want to open unreal editor, any tips?

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>>148710539
Kek, I thought it was a bizarre weapons somehow for a few moments, but its actually just magical battle bagpipes to inspire bravery. In my defense there is a bagpipe weapon that shoots acid, hence my confusion.

>>148710817
If it is giving you an error message, google it.

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ABA pods + was a mistake

>>148711043
It doesn't give me one, all that happens is the splash screen is loading and then disappears

>>148711185

If it stops when it says loading foliage brush or something like that, there's a fix for that, that i can't remember. Look around in the Xcom2 nexus forums, you have to disable source something on an .ini file.

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>>148711157

A lot of vomiting later, and not only is the squad saved but MUH FUCKING FRAMES TOO jesus.

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>>148711331

From spamming blazing pilons on the mc'd archon

>>148711254
Thanks for the tip, a related post recommended disabling a function in the editor ini file and it opens now. Thanks Jake

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>>148712035

I find even with the max 12 soldiers using LW toolbox it's fucking hard as fuck on legend difficulty with ABA pod +

finally XCOM2 is getting that LW feel

>>148711157
>High Noon

heh

>put in Additional Mission Types
>DEFEND THE RESISTANCE HAVEN
>oh boy
>kill all in-mission pods on the second turn
>rush reinforcements zones and set up overwatch traps
>'okay this is going to be hectic and I better be ready for mobile warfare from one side of the map to the other'
>reinforcements are called in TO THE SAME TWO ZONES
>divide up forces and set up overwatch trap again
>rinse repeat

That was a bit underwhelming.

>>148698114
Yeah, I was afraid of the mission kicking my ass, but it was a cakewalk - while the Spark is shit by now. Fuck.
Live and learn, I guess. Is Jake planning to do something about the robits?

>>148718613
The new patch schedule is unclear now. Before it was just rolled out with each DLC which was every two months (pretty decent). Now I have no idea when the new patches will hit. Most of the balance changes have been pretty god so far, so hopefully they will address mecs.

>Ironman /Commander, July, I think
>almost got the lasers
>Psilab will be finished in a few days
>still haven't taken the vial
>no casualties so far
Is this what gitting gud feels like, /xcg/?

>>148719028
You are on the path, which is good, because gitting gud is a journey.

>>148718863
Console release is in 2 months. Jake might fix his game sooner than that, but I'm sure we'll see some decent update in september as well.

>>148719283
I'll make sure to see it through till the end, then.
I've no idea what to do about the rulers and it terrifies me.

>>148719028
>lasers
>playing with mods before gitting gud

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>main assault got scratched and shaken
>neat, FREE will
>take her on a flawless mission, remove shaken
>Will restored and increased!
I am going to KILL Johnny Lump.

>>148722902
Yeah, LW Not Created Equally is broken right now. Wait a week.

>>148723009
Hidden Potential is at fault here, I think.
Is there a console command to change a soldier's will or something? It's not cheating if Lump broke my game.

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>>148721828

Were we down or something?

Looks like we are back.

Are we?

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>>148725669
Maybe.

>>148725669
No.

You are currently in 4chan offline mode.
In offline mode, posts are randomly generated by bots.

>// Infiltrations loop for ever.
Wait, what? I was looking at the OpenXcom code trying to work out why they never stoped, and apparently it's intended behaviour. Is this really how 94COM did it?

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>>148726956
Ice cream? god I love ice cream

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>>148726956

Have a Plane.

>tell rookie to hack station
>slap down evac
>on his way to evac he triggers an overwatch through a wall
>shot causes him to panic and run off of the evac point into a group of advent
I hate rookies so fucking much.

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>tfw no ability to shoot panicking soldiers for 1-2 damage and stop them from panicking while providing the rest of the team with +10 aim and +20 crit chance for the rest of the mission

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>>148728480
>tfw soon

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Post Blacksites

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>>148729332

Are there any mods for enemy unknown?
Are any of them good?

>>148730661
I heard about this weird one
Called Long War or something
Apparently it has shit design all over it tho

>>148646239
Is the LW perk mod worth playing without the impending alien pack? Also,can anyone confirm if the perks performing properly

>put PCS: Body Shield on an assault
>it disappears

>put PCS: Damage Control on a Spark
>PCS slot is actually locked
>the PCS disappears anyway
I need an adult
What's going on here?

Alien pack when?

>First terror mission in FMP
>It's silicoids in an apartment complex
>Explosives, explosives everywhere
>Last one is now stuck and I can't reach it because I blew up the stairs

Fuck this, there's only one civilian left anyway. Can I just haul everything to the skyranger and take it with me when I abort?

>>148736524
Blow up the rest of the building? Or at least the floor its standing on?

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Which one, /xcg/?

>>148737873
Alloy padding, unless you're using a lot of armor, which I doubt.
Might wanna check the mission rewards too.

>Turns until bleed out: 1