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>>148520417

>Character Planner
https://www.mugenmonkey.com/

>Community & Fanart
http://pastebin.com/vVWz9pJm

>KING'S FIELD
http://pastebin.com/G8zw0sc3

>DEMON'S SOULS
http://pastebin.com/RjpF5s7a

>DARK SOULS
http://pastebin.com/eNY3su63

>DARK SOULS 2
http://pastebin.com/CAx8Yc8v

>BLOODBORNE
http://pastebin.com/WdLBWD8n

>DARK SOULS 3
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1u8Mak1goSv4g73g16XsWV4sJelDQUatWkP2kcO6GVAA/pub
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PC FC
W H E R E
H
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R
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>>148597939
N E V E R
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V
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THESE ARE CUTEPOSTING HOURS
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1. Dark Souls
2. Bloodborne
...
50. Dark Souls 3
51. Demon's Souls
...
9001. Dark Souls 2

This is not opinion
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Why aren't you watching evo, you fighting game rejects.
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G I A N T S
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Got the invader, that was worth it in my book
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>>148598151
>posts opinion
>this is not an opinion
whatever you say.
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i want to bone
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>>148598206
If you think anything other than this you're an idiot
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>>148598012
Cute!
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>invaded by hacking Aldrich Faithful
NANI
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>>148598593
Yeah wtf. I think he killed all the mobs- either that or dropped them on himself? I'm just gunna level up then meet at anor londoo
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>>148598682
... swear to god I dodged that
take two
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Who's down for some co-op?
I'm down for some co-op
Anyone need help anywhere?
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Is there any way I can delete a save if From finds out I was CEing? I was told you can actually delete saves when you get a warning and still play the game if you do so.
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>>148598936
Drop your sign at anal londo pass dsg and you can join in m9
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>>148599031
omw, hang on a minute
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>>148599031
>>148599143
sign down
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>>148599272
You're on PC right?
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Why wasn't Alva's Set the posterboy for DkS2?

I like it a lot.
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>>148599364
Bamco liked Faraam better.
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>>148599335
yeah
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>>148599364
Should've been Tsledora
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>>148599402
weird- sign isn't showing up. You're using pass as dsg right? where did ye put your sign?
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Post something Soulsborne related and sum it up with a Spongebob quote
>take it easy its just a drawing
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>>148599446
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>>148599494
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>>148599446
you gotta finger up to summon a second phantom when using a password
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>>148599364
No idea but it's my favorite set too. Great def/weight ratio, god tier aesthetics. What else can you ask for in a set of armor?
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Going off of the character planner, Faith and Int scale equally for Pyromancy in DaS2. I had heard it was a 50/50 combined stat requirement. Which explains why all my builds failed.

For Hex it's 50/50. For Pyromancy the Fire Bonus just goes up every 2 points of either. So You can go pure Pyro/Miracle or Pyro/Sorcery and miss out on nothing. If you're going Master Of All Magic or Hex you'll want both, but holy fuck is it expensive and makes the game harder if you try to rush it.
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>>148599723
oh shit- that makes sense tho
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>>148599725
Nothing.
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>>148599494
>hey pal you just blow in from stupid town
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>>148599782
fuck 1sec- haven't bought finger on this character yet
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>>148599814
>comparing DaS to Skyrim

Fucking normies.
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>>148599494
"that hat makes you look like a girl"
"am i a pretty girl?"
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Why is Elite Knight Set considered to be cover armor for DaS? Chosen Undead never wore that shit.
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>>148599756
Also, I had a lore epiphany. If Hex is a combination of sorcery and miracle, it sort of adds to compounds on the nature of Priscilla's existence. If she's the byproduct of an inherently divine being and an inherently sorcerous being, she could be an inherently occult being. Probably killed her mum in childbirth.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FCa8OcqfAoc
nice game lolbabs
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Magic barrier is the real shit, heretical magic practitioners should be lined up and executed
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Bro-op boys, give me a hot sec to get to irithryll dungeon and meet at that bonfire
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>>148600146
wat
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REEEEEEEE I GOT CURSED IN THE DEPTHS NOW I CAN'T GET OUT FUCK THESE TORCH HOLLOWS
BUILD ANOTHER UNDEAD ASYLUM
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>>148600146
>chosen undead never wore that shit
Cover armor = whatever's on the cover and used in advertising

DaS1 has a special exception in that the cover armor is both armor and weaponry not present in any of the games, and PtDE is a Black Knight, but promotional material gives the appearance of Elite Knight Set.
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Post your theme song

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xRGrfurZaNQ

I ask because I plan to host an FC soon
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>>148600595
Vincent is that you? I take it you're done with co-op then?
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>>148599814
>skyrim ripoff
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>>148600741
It's Friday night here in burgertown, I got nothin' to do
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>>148600595
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9gMpODhx2Bw
3:24
Playing this shit with any speedy dex build is a blast
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>>148600830
If you want to continue co-op, put sign by the shortcut to the elevator in the dungeon
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>>148600926
>Ken Ashcorp
into the trash it goes
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name 1 reason to play ds3 over bloodborne
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>>148600595
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D00M2KZH1J0

i'll kick all of your asses in this here pcfc
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mOQdEvzDfVY NOW THIS IS SOME DAMN GOOD PVP
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>>148601009
60 fps and you dont have to arbitrarily pay for online services
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>>148601259
>he is a poorfag
>he doesn't prefer 30 fps for better cinematic experience

wew lad
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>>148601009
>No PSN
>Don't have to be in /bbg/
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>>148601085
>11 minutes of katana running r1
Real top tier pvp action right here lads
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>>148601009
my loading screens aren't 40 minutes
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>>148601085
>washingpolefags abusing broken hitboxes on each other from 10 feet away
>good pvp
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>>148601009
Should you be jerking off your fellow /bbg/?
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>>148601353
>enjoying paying for things when free alternatives exist
>justifying an objectively choppier framerate
You're trying too hard
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Fuck, DaS3 is shit.
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If you were a great old one, what would you be?
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Which do you prefer?

How Dark Souls 2 handled the lore of the first game, or how Dark Souls 3 handled the lore of the first game.
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>>148600595
I lost my shit at the Savage Garden ED
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>>148601652
>>148601539
>>148601396
I'm glad you guys are finally waking up.
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remember..... ds3 ...... good....noo...
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>>148601663
Bokrug
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>>148598151
>over 9000 meme
Disregarded.
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APOLOGIZE
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Favorite attack to land /dsg/?

>war cry rolling r2 onDSA
>mfw

Gets me rock hard every time
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>>148602009
FUGS WA
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So should we do late night dragonman FC, or should I go do something else for tonight, /dsg/?
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>>148602009
the UGS charged R2 thrust
>some dagger dork mistimes his quickstep and it hits him during his instability frames
>instantkills him for 1600 damage
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so is there some sort of secret combo to this weapon?
everyone raves on the damage but you can hardly ever land the weapon because axes in ds3 are just straight swords without the speed and range
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>>148602093
>it's basically a guaranteed kill if it lands
>you turn it fucking sideways during the animation
Wonderful. BKGS and FUGS are the true patrician choice.
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>>148601665
But DkS2 handled its own lore with only a handful of references to Lordran's era.
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>>148602235

When you hit it while it's buffed it's great damage. But like you said the speed and range makes it so that it's hard to hit at all, without the damage it would be as mediocre as all the other axes.
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Bro-op mang if you wanna keep going i'll wait for your sign at dancer
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>>148602235
Raw or Lightning infused with lightning bundles/lightning weapon buff will melt anything in your path, fantastic twinking tool Raw and good sidearm on a faith build

Does a lot of warcry damage and a little bit more than the average straightsword attack, good in the left hand for roll catching
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>>148602364
I reckon I'll probably get you up to OCELOOOTTEEEE then I'll go join the FC or something
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>>148602147
FC
C
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Alright, experimental test FC underway

PC, dsg, meme wall

Show me the true power of your stand
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>>148602364
I just remembered I need to go get the coal for hollow infusions- i'll do that right quick and then meet me at the room with the priest and the knight?
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>DaS2 releases
>fuck this broken shit I'm going back to 1
>Scholar of the First Sin
>hey this is actually fun
>DaS3 releases
>fuck this broken piece of shit, I'm going to play DaS2

It's only a matter of time until the DLC gets people back to DaS3. I hope;_;
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>>148602009
Full charge with Garg Spear/ Gundyr's
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>>148602542
what level/weapon level?
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>>148602009
Fully charged 2h Gatsu Ultragreatsword golfswing
>keep throwing out r1s to establish a perceived pattern
>after my opponent catches on and punishes me for one, randomly replace a swing with a charged r2
>opponent runs in out of habit expecting me to whiff another r1
>send them to the moon
At that point, I don't care if I win, shit's so satisfying it doesn't even matter
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>>148602598
I'll wait for the updated re-release only to turn hollow from the despair that my veteran laptop can't run it.
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>>148602641
100/+10
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>>148602589
sign down
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>>148602427
Ok cool- then don't worry about it. Thanks for the help mang
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>>148602542

Will come after finishing this wank.
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>>148599494
>I'm ugly and I'm proud
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We got three red signs here at the PCFC, come attend!
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>>148602009
Dark Sword R1 :^)
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>>148602009

The four-pronged plow WA + R2 faceplant. I have only landed it once in PvP to any effect and I couldn't stop laughing.
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>>148599494
>MY LEG! MY LEG!
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Fuck all this memery, DaS on console sucks

>look at a forest
>10 fps

>Summon someone anywhere
>5 fps

>Dark Spirit invades
>sends me messages asking for a weapon

>invade someone
>they don't even have a healthbar, participating in the most blatant type of cheating around
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Post knight fashion
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OFFICIAL SOULS GAMES DIFFICULTIES

Bloodborne DLC > Bloodborne > Skyrim > DaS1 = DaS2 = DaS3
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>>148601356
>/bbg/ is worse than /dsg/
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>>148603029
I've never had any of these problems.
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>>148603108
>/bbg/ is worse than /dsg/
Have you ever been to /bbg/ after the hype died down from Old Hunters?
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>>148603167
Have you been to /dsg/ after they released Dark Souls on PC?
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>>148603225
So you haven't, then. Good to know.
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What's the best upgrade path for a weapon in a quality build?
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>>148603296
Chaos
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>>148603296
Simple
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>>148603296

Refined for 99% of weapons at 40/40. There are just enough exceptions to count on one hand. Sharp Exile GS has a slight AR lead over Refined. Heavy Spiked Mace/Pickaxe also have slightly more AR then Refined. Onikiri and Ubadachi also have more AR left without an infusion unless you have investment in Luck for bleed and other physical stats.
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>>148603280
So you haven't, then. Good to know.
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I'm off to join the FC
good luck co-op bro
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Thanks for the help Valda
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>>148603515
>sonyponies at work
Go into /bbg/ right now and say one thing that isn't related to their autistic circlejerking, related to PS4 DaS3, or ask a question
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>vincent fightclub
time to memekill
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>>148603515
So good to know. That you haven't, then.
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The FC has devolved
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Melanoma-tier: un-fun to fight, un-fun to use. Literally 0 appeal to these weapons outside of simply being the absolute, objectively best pvp tools in the game. Immediately identify you as a tryhard tourneyfag delusional enough to believe that dark souls is a comeptitive professional fighting game, and also a browser of reddit and fan of e-celebs

Washing Pole
Carthus Curved Sword
Lucerne (+leo ring)
Black Knight Glaive
Gundyr's Halberd
Glaive
Gargoyle Flame Spear
Gotthard's Twinswords
Estoc
Hornet Ring

Prostate Cancer-tier: the hipster options for tryhards that want to pretend they aren't a mindless redditdrone gargling e-celeb cock, or the gimmicky garbage that involves broken, abusable shit that's only slightly less good than the above.

2kat
Claws
Chaos Blade
Dragonslayer Swordspear
Dragonslayer Spear
Drang Twinspears
Cestus
Red-Hilted Halberd
Demon's Fist
Storm Curved Sword
Carthus Shotel
Falchion
Lothric Knight Sword
Dark Sword
Irithyll Rapier
Corvian Greatknife
Hollowslayer Spear (+leo)

Operable-tier: Not particularly meta, but obnoxious for one reason or another. Usually excessively passive, mildly inconvenient or a super-specific hardcounter that is fairly easy to deal with but still just a pain in the ass. The core tools of someone who would rather just be annoying instead of actually fighting.
Tears of Denial
Bloodring Thorn Armor
Throwing Knives
Quickstep Daggers
Sorcery
Whips
Poison
The rest of the Katanas
The rest of the Straight Swords (except Broken and Lothric's Holy)
The rest of the Thrusting Swords
The rest of the Curved Swords (except Scimitar, Painting Guardian and Paired)
Blessed-infused offhands
Winged Knight Twinaxes
Drang Hammers
Ringswapping
Sun Princess Ring
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Anyone else really miss the neat movesets from ds2? I really wish they'd bring back the bone fist in DLC. It had such a sweet dropkick ;_;, I'd even settle for something that gives you gundyr's shouldercheck

Weapons you'd like to see make a reprisal in DLC?
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>>148603492
Alright, thanks. Did the math and while it's a small increase over the standard path it IS an increase and the best overall damage upgrade I can get from any infusion.
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>>148603865
git gud
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M E M E S
E
M
E
S
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>>148603893

Yeah some weapons gain a very pitiful boost from Refined as well but it's still a boost. I think my favorite is the Drakeblood GS which only gets 3 extra AR from 40/40.
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>>148602928
>>148603823

>'try hard cancer builds'
>carthus curvesword 3 shotting everyone
>only duels

yeah I'm out,
Good riddance
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>>148603956
It's not my fault you're top-tier bully material, Vincent
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>>148603865

Shitter-tier: A whining little bitch who needs to get good

(You)
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>>148604007
Are you Lancelot? If so, perhaps you need to git gud
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>>148603865
How is Demon's Fist cancer-tier now? I remember back then people saying not to use it because it's garbage.
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>>148604049
I'll cut you mate, swear on me mum
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>>148604152
they can guarantee 5-hit combo now
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>>148603865
lol, so what weapons are left that don't make you a cancerous, tryhard, meta-loving, insert negative buzzword here?
Painting guardian's dagger?
Elonora?
Blacksmith's Hammer?
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excuse me host

I was dueling can u pls watch where youre profaned firing
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stop it host with your profaned flame
also, I really need to turn in my bones so I can finally seppuku like an honorable man when I get parried
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>>148604337
>>148604284
>>148603956
>>148603823
>>148603639
pcucks, every1
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man where is drake

literally the only non retard host if you can withstand his fucking saint bident poking
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>>148604152
>>148604152
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FCa8OcqfAoc
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>>148604427
meanwhile at ps4 and xbone
>
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>>148604284
>>148604337
This is no country for old men
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>>148604439
>autistically flails if anyone tries to tell him to leave demon ruins
>212
>>egotistical as Ley who is PC Lucifer
thanks but no thanks and fuck your mother
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>>148604489
Surely, thine kind are more than pure meme?
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>killed Anri for early EK set
>Yuria gone
>no fashion ring

fuck me
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>>148604470
meanwhile on ps4
>most active playerbase
>no cheaters
>no laggy netcode
>bloodborne, the masterpiece and best souls game
>better control scheme
>no circlejerking of cancerous shitters
>no crashing to desktop
>no steam drm
>no save issues
want me to keep going kiddo?
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>>148604152
All fist weapons got buffed a half a dozen times, making them actually decent. Just recently it was discovered you can do really buggy extended stunlocks with them that guarantee you like 1200-1500 damage.
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>>148604584
I stared into the memes and they stared back

I am no man, nor a dragonman

I am memes, I cannot be controlled, I can only compulsively seek madness
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>>148603943
>>148604117
How's that washing pole running R1 going for you, my enlightened brethren?

>>148604648
Are you serious lmao
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>>148604605
hope it was worth it
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>>148604648
>implying half of these are true
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>>148604691
git gud
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>>148604573
its better than high wall of bore

i mean yeah id prefer stray demon bridge but im so tired of fighting at the same 2 places
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>>148604648
>most active playerbase
lies
>no cheaters
It's harder to cheat
>no laggy netcode
lies
>bloodborne
the one true PS4 game
>better control scheme
the control scheme is the same
>no circlejerking
There aren't enough /dsg/ PS4 players, namedropping was always a thing on PS though (see: emodragonz)
>no crashing to desktop
15 fps at 720p
>no steam drm
propogated memes
>no save issues
propogated memes
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>>148604462
>tfw using Demon's Fist as an off hand weapon mainly for parrying and for dealing with reactive players
>had no idea about the stunlock
>people will now automatically assume I'm a shitter

The fuck, man.
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>>148604648
>No laggy netcode

HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA
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>>148604762
This.
We ought to find a new locale. It'd have the added bonus of chasing all the autistc carthus sword and glaive users away
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>>148604691
>washing pole
I can't even remember the last time I saw this thing in PvP. 2kat, Uchi, and CB are all way more common.
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>>148604648
>lie
>they would cheat if they could, they already savescum the shit out of the game
>hahaha
>can agree with that
>motion controls are fucking trash
>literally lucifer
>crashing to cross media instead
>pay to play online
>not an issue on any platform
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>>148602009
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Man powerstancing could have been so cool if every move with every weapon wasn't either
>Slash left and right with both weapons
>Vertically chop/smash the ground in front of you with both weapons
I know it would have been a lot of work but the fact that you don't even get a fancy combo with two twin blades is a bummer
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>>148604845
>find new locale
>"nah, I'm not going there" except for those people just fucking sitting in post-SoC doing nothing
>find Demon Ruins
>>Drake
Truly, these people are worse than hitler
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>>148604808
Desu demon fist should keep the combo, just have some damage decay before the weapon art.

The knockdown allows you to setup profaned flame. Have fun
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>/dsg/ gives /bbg/ flack for circlejerking
>half the thread is FC circle jerk

At least get a discord, friends.
I'm a little assblasted about this because I only play DaS3 on PS4.
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>>148604709
>>148604691
>pcucks offers no counterpoints at all
kek
>>148604795
>entire post is just "nuh-uh" with no actual counterpoints
k kiddo
>>148604830
>have to go into the steam drm to change location to maybe get a chance to play online
>have to make entire new accounts for being banned
>numerous instances where pcuck saves were auto deleted/corrupted for no reason
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>>148604984
We'll get through this together bruddah
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>>148604648
>most active playerbase
nah
>no cheaters
less cheaters =/= no cheaters
>no laggy netcode
blatantly lying
>bloodborne
irrelevant
>better control scheme
irrelevant because you can use a dualshock on pc as well as any controller you want + gimmicky motion controls that can make you attack npcs on accident
>no circlejerking
because ps4 players don't exist
>no crashing to desktop
only happens on occasion and meanwhile on ps4 you're playing at capped 30 fps with numerous fps drops
>no steam drm
irrelevant and you have to pay for fucking online on ps4
>no save issues
never heard of them and we can cleanly manage multiple saves and have unlimited character files
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nice 99 in all stats build :)
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>>148604917
Well shit, the Wolf Knight flip has the same jumping knockback like 2kat WA. Too bad the R2 stabs are shit and basically a free parry.
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>>148605047
>counter points are just "nuh-uh" because of memes
Sony, not even once.

>>148604984
At least there's more than 2 IPs, /bbg/ is terrible. Discord is also terrible.

Friendly reminder that Drake supports Discord and calls anyone who doesn't want one nostalgic faggots.
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>>148605047
>have to go into the steam drm to change location to maybe get a chance to play online
>have to make entire new accounts for being banned
>numerous instances where pcuck saves were auto deleted/corrupted for no reason
Holy shit you can't be this delusional
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>>148605089
>yet another mad pcuck post that's nothing but "nuh uh not true"
kek
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>>148605213
Vincent why.
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>>148605213
>being this delusional
go back to /bbg/ or something
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Vincent why
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GOSH THANKS

>>148605213
At least pretend you read the post before memeing
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>forgot to grab my 100 million souls from the meme hacker earlier after i died just now

oops
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>>148604909
Adding to this post because the autist ignored it.

>1min loading screens
>15 seconds to confirm you're summoning someone, 15 more to summon them to your world
>30 or more seconds to load outside of firelink shrine
>using blessed weapon makes the game shit itself
>summoning someone at pontiffs make the console literally go full fermi housefire edition
>sub20fps in most areas

das3 experience on consoles is fucking awful and I'll never load it again. It's a nice backup when my pc shits the bed but that's about it.
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>>148604917
Christ almighty- is that 50 vig? That is actually way more than 40 vig, I always thought the increase was insignificant, but I guess that extra+30% really helps
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>>148605186
>holy shit you liar, cant believe youre lying , thats not true, you cant be serious, liar!!!
ok kid wanna disprove me?i have whole entire archives of pcucks crying about corrupt saves on dark souls 3 alone and pcucks discussing ways to get around the fucked up pc only netcode problem, come swing at me kid i fucking dare you i have files and files to swing back with
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>>148604648
>most active playerbase
I doubt it, but on my end, it's still pretty active
>no cheaters
There aren't any, unless you count giving end game items to low level players cheating.
>no laggy netcode
I've had my share of laggy fights, but lately From keeps placing me on the Nippon and other east asia servers and I've been having smooth fights
>bloodborne, the masterpiece and best souls game
pretty much, yeah.
>better control scheme
What?
>no circlejerking of cancerous shitters
there's circlejerking everywhere
>no crashing to desktop
I've had crashes to home screen, though.
>no steam drm
Eh, payed online multiplayer.
>no save issues
I've met some people whose saves got corrupted.
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>>148605319
>meme hacker
literally who
are we in the same fc or did I miss something
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>>148605389
>Putting words in my mouth
Lmao keep being delusional sonypony
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>>148605435
FC earlier had a guy that was sl9999 and gave 25 million souls every time he died

i forgot to grab them after getting killed in this current fc
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How do I git gud with curved greatswords? I am getting my ass kicked while using them, but I fucking LOVE their moveset.
>>
Please, for the love of god leave consolewars on /v/, this man shit talking PC is quite clearly baiting you guys, yet you are falling for it hook, line, and sinker
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>>148605470
>backpedaling
thats right kid sit the fuck down and keep your mouth shut, know your place
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>>148605548
>ps4 babby is a cringelord
nothing new here
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Vincent you fuck, stop dying.
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>>148605539
Pointless consolewars are better than this pointless cashgrab of a main game we have now.
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>>148605517

Use exile's and spin-slash to victory. It's powerful with sufficient stamina.
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double death trades are the best
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>>148605539
>come on guys stop shitposting, its obvious pcucks arent shitposting cancers at all pcucks clearly have never been a problem or a cancer to /dsg/ at all
nice bias kiddo kill yourself
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>>148605315
Vincent I don't understand
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there's at least 387 meems in this pictures kkids
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>>148605548
My place is on top of ur mom :^)
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>we will never have better chalice dungeons but better and less boring to look at

well whatever. at least i have coffee.

if you drink anything other than dark roast you're a fucking shitter
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>>148605660
Green Tea is better
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>>148605656
i would say the same thing but i dont fuck dead corpses like dark souls playerbase on pc KEK
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>>148605643
Vincent summon me you lazy fuck
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>>148605660
>>148605704
Tea in general is better.
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wow le epic trol

someone host a real fc
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should i host

t. 212
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>>148605779
>>148605820
the real FC is right here little babs
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>>148605704
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>>148605919
>>148605779
>>148605643
>>148605315
reminder that this kid is avatarfagging since all their posts are being spammed with the same shit ugly character to identify themselves, report
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>tfw want to go to NG++++ for more slabs before they patch all the skips so i can keep fc spots open
>tfw hate this game's boring as all fuck pve
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>>148606086
>caring for slabs when some cuck can drop any weapon at +10 for you if beg for it like you beg for cum every single day of your life
>>
FC is over

everyone go home until someone not shit hosts
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BRAVO VINCENT
>>
Vincent.
This is the third time you have died during a fight of mine.
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pc fc pc fc pfc pfc pfcp pc fc pc fpc pfc
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>>148605353
i have 40Vig + life3/fap2
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feed my ego with delicious (You)s if you'd like a Demon Ruins FC, /dsg/
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>>148606393
>>148606376
>>148606357
>>148606346
pcucks, everyone
killyourselves like how your little circlejerks killed itself
>>
Well, well. Now I am forced to learn how to play unlocked, bcz now my lock buttom is broken. Praise the fucking sun.
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>>148606454
If Vincent fucking dies again, sure.
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>>148606454
Why not. Can't be any worse than the last host killing himself like a tard.
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>>148606468
it's ok sony friend, you're allowed to post about your 20fps 40 minute load times if you want

how much of your total playtime is load screens? i'd bet at least half
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>>148606454
no
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>>148606468
Why you gotta false flag, man.
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>>148606668
nice projecting pcuck
by the way pcuck youre not allowed to post your 0fps hour long load times
how much of your total playtime is crashes and cheating to beat the game? i beat it's all of it
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>>148606672
>>148606573
>>148606498
OH SHIT NIGGERS, GUESS WHAT TIME IT IS

IT'S TIME FOR THE OFFICIAL /dsg/ SMOULDERING LAKE PC FCâ„¢

GET YOUR ASSES IN HERE.

Please place your signs on the small rocky knoll between the Worm's spawn location and the staircase leading up to the Old Demon King's fog door, thank you.
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>>148606867
>meme host
>meme location
thanks but no thanks
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>>148606867
No fuck you drake get out
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>>148606826
are you ok son? it's alright to feel inferior, it will drive you to improve! i hope you do good in school today champ!
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>>148606867
When I see you in hell I'll make sure to spit in your face you son of a bitch
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>>148607061
>projecting
are you ok kid? its fine you'll NEVER EVER be as superior as ps4alphas
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>>148606867

>TWO
>ONE
>TWO
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>>148606867
Don't jump the gun, son. Vincent is behaving, for now.
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>>148607127
friend i'm trying to help you, but you're starting to embarrass me... uguuu
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>>148606867
based drake of failed memes and dreams
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time to memekill vincent
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>>148607158
90% of deaths are caused by FC participants like Vlad and Depression
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>>148606867
>SL212
PCucks, everyone
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>A Soulsborne game with a top notch character creator

That's all I wanted.

Chances are, I'll never have it.
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>>148607225
You say that like you aren't running around on 1HP when that happens.
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>>148607317
Dragon's Dogma?
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>>148607373
As much as I enjoyed Dragon's Dogma, it's not Soulsborne.
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how could you just kill depression like that
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>>148607225
I haven't hit you today
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Ain't gonna lie, dark souls 2 pvp was just MUCH better than this one. Hopefully, FROM can fix this shit, I miss poise.
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>>148607569
Just connect poise to hyperarmor.

High enough poise = HA on light weapons.

Turns it into *almost* the same shit in DaS1 without it being objectively broken like it was in DaS1
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pc fc where
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I haven't played for a while, has anything changed or is NG+ still dead and the multiplayer a shitshow?
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>>148607767
donaldo trumpo's wall
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>>148607767
SotFS PCFC where?
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>>148607824
then summon me noob!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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>>148607718

Is that how the poise stat works? Does it actually influence HA frames?

I can't find a thing about this anywhere.
>>
reminder that Bloodborne won
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>>148607827
lmao ded gaem
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>>148607960
No, it does almost nothing.

I believe there was a reddit post recently showing that it causes HA from medium weight weapon (greatswords and halberds) to not get interrupted by HA attacks from ultra weapons.

So it's a super gimmicky, weapon AND matchup specific stat that does nothing for the majority of builds.
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>>148607317
its called bloodborne
if youre not a filthy cancerous disgusting pathetic cheating scummy lowlife toxic pcuck, you can have the best souls game on ps4 :)
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Is the FC still going on?
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>>148608408
>malnourished, chinless wonders: the creator
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>>148607960
I'm not really sure, anon.

Sometimes I have a lot of HA frames on some attacks, sometimes I have very little.

If it is connected, it's not very clear as to how, and if it really does increase the effectiveness of HA frames, it does so either:

A: very little
B: extremely inconsistently

Here's some video evidence that connect it to HA, but don't really prove all that much in an actual fight.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3v3fi804W0I
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RDYc2Af2yr8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_FRY_TWGa4E

and finally a fight with a decent player by someone with high poise

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4FPd7ESMDjs
I can run a similar build at SL125 by way of minimal dex investment and smart ring choices, whilst maintaining this amount of poise.
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>>148608440
ye too bad for you im gunna end it soon with a great memekill hehehehe
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Is NG+ dead?
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>>148608356

If all poise did was grant more durable HA to various weapons and attacks across the board, it would actually strike a good balance between poisestacking and lolstunlock. The "situational" poise they mentioned in the infamous press release would be true.
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Hey, /dsg/, I am going to be picking up DS2 again bevause it has been awhile. I was wondering if infusing a thrusting sword with magic is good or not. If so, which ones? Estoc? Ricard's?
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>>148608440
Yes, PCFC at meme wall is still on

"AFK 212!" edition
>>
I wonder how many left DaS3 for pokemonGo

I know i did
>>
worst fc literally ever literally
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>>148608586
I was replying to an anon, you dumb dragon fetishist
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>>148608646
Don't be such a silly willy, you nilly vanilly billy.
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What the actual fuck, Pickaxe 1hR2 takes all my stamina while 2hR2 takes like a third at most
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re member when fc ws good?
noo!!!!!!!!!!!
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>play with a bunch of heavy weapons
>meh
>equip washing pole
>range of an ultra weapon with the speed of a fast weapon
>win every duel

lmao
m
a
o
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>>148608808
Not enough stats to wield 1H, sounds like.
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>>148608907
>equip any katana
>methodically use its dashing attack, mix it with not doing a dash attack from time to time
>win literally every fight
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>>148608538

PvP-wise or PvE-wise?
>>
your little "fight club" is over

vincent has to attend summer school tomorrow because he spent all year slacking off playing these dumb video games
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>>148608950
I have a 40/40 build, anon. The followup 1hR2 takes almost no stamina, too.
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>>148608808

Pickaxe 1H is generally slower and less effective.
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>>148609037
Gosh Andy, I knew you always had a crush on me but it's nothing to be a faggot over desu
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>>148608575
Is Dex/Int good?
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>>148608575
>>148609473
yeah

go Estoc and whatever upgrade path suits you

remember you have limited casts
>>
>mfw erik

christ. i will get around your glaive you filthy metalord
>>
Time for the age old question, is sub 30 fast roll worth it?
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>>148608818
>running katana attacks abuse
pcucks, everyone
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>>148609754
I can switch to a build I'm much worse with, if you want. I haven't done much PvP with Gundyr's, only just finished levelling Eirik, so I wanted to mess around with him.
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>>148609754

I hate dealing with glaives with Gundyr's 2HR1 more then anything else in this game personally.
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>>148609825
If you're intentionally gutting your build, no. There isn't bonus stamina regen and any bonus iframes are negligible. If it doesn't *affect* you in any way it's just a bonus.
>>
>>148609858
>tfw winning fights with a +0 darkdrift because literally nothing can defend against it
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>>148609895
Nah, I need to get better against glaives.

Going to try a couple different things
>>
Would anyone trade me a titanite slab? If you have 2 then great. Name something you would like to have, and if I have, then its yours. Thanks in advance.
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>>148609979
Unless you're on DkSI, people can't drop titanite, sorry.
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>>148609979
Can't trade slabs, only slabbed weapons,
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>>148609979
Do you have 99 embers? I can slab anything you want, baby.
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>>148610050
I can legit give you 50 embers for 2 slabs.
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>>148609954
except a parry
if pcucks tried that on consoles youd get btfo hard
>>
Fighting Ancient Dragon just to weaken Vendrick, yay or nay?
>>
Vincent.

Why.
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>>148610028
>>148610049
Damn that fucking blows. Oh well, gotta wait for them dlcs slabs.
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That's it for Super mega wall FC

Would've ended it sooner but antagonizing a certain few people is too good an opportunity to pass up
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Lmao glaives are for nerds.
Spears are for real men.
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>>148610275
Just go to ng+.
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>>148610278

>didn't even get a kill today

ah well
>>
BB > DeS > DaS1 > DaS2 > DaS3

Sadly the objective truth
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>>148609979

You've already used up all 8 slabs in NG? Dude what the hell you need 9 +10 weapons for.
>>
If my post ends in odds, we'll get DLC information by the end of next week.

If it's evens, we don't get any information until a week before release.
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>you get greedy
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Who did you side with?
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Hey erik, BO9 dude.

I want to try some new shit

t. 212
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>>148610554
Creighton. Unhinged but lovable. He's a Serial Killer who escaped his execution, sure, but Pate's a dickass too.
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I know magic is shit in this game, but i want to make a Dark sorcerer, is this a nice build?
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>tfw you actually love DaS3
Dunno why.

Just never started to hate it.

What would you guys give it out of 10
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>>148610519
I'm 100% positive they buffed this boss poisebreak. Was getting hits consistently after every combo and he didn't knee a single time
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>>148610278
Thank you for hosting and for the coin
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>>148610828
8.5 for DeS
8.5 for DaS
5 for DaS2
9 for BB
8.5 for DaS3

Soulsborne: Consistently really pretty good but not quite star performance
>>
>>148610816
Too much faith/int

Most good magic builds tend to steer away from all that.

Put those points into Dex and Str and youre good to go.

Also use a Darksword with refined on it

And just in case you dont have enough carryweight, throw that pesky staff away.

Also for good measure in pvp you might need a caestus.

This mage build is my go-to for pvp.
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>>148610278
Thanks for the FC guys, was fun.
>>148610594
Got some stuff I need to do. I'm hooked on these FCs now though, so I'm sure we'll run into each other again.
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>>148610889
i don't know, i managed to get chain stagger on him with Raw Barbed Sword in NG+4. what NG cycle are you on? i think stagger can be affected by relative damage somehow
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For a Faith build which is better, Thorned GS or Defender GS?
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>>148610945
is that 5 for Vanilla or SotFS?
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>>148611178
NG normal, this is a new character.

I found it very strange, I remember being able to chain stun him with almost anything.
>>
>>148611272
Both
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>>148611020

>Too much faith/int
45/45 is what I need to hit the cap

>Put those points into Dex and Str and youre good to go.
For what purpose?

>Also use a Darksword with refined on it
...

>And just in case you dont have enough carryweight, throw that pesky staff away.
You're right, let's just throw away the most important part of the build

>Also for good measure in pvp you might need a caestus.
...
>>
>actually get hit by Sacred Flame in a FC
>get one-shot by it

Well that was embarrassing.
>>
>invade someone
>kill their 2 phantoms
>"MOM PULL THE PLUG!"
>"Disconnected from host"
boy invading sure is a gigantic fucking waste of time
>>
>>148610828
9/10

-buff poise but dont make it das1 tier overpowered
-increase curved sword/straight sword/katana/thrusting sword stamina consumption dramatically
-lower cs/ss/kat/ts ar by ~5%
-complete the farron greatsword moveset
-add high-efficiency low-damage miracle
-improve magic tracking in pvp
-nerf ganksquads
-introduce renewable titanite slabs without cycling to ng+
-put stat requirements on armor and rings(aka twinkfags btfo)
-interconnect world; adjust mob difficulty accordingly
-global increase to strength scaling effectiveness on strength weapons and heavy infusions
-reduce stamina consumption of ultra weapons
-add slight fp regen to farron ring
-replace hp debuff with clutch ring debuff on dusk crown ring
-improve low level lightning miracles
-global reduction to ultra greatweapon critical damage, hornet ring reduced in effectiveness for three-stage ripostes
-Replace Tackle WA with Weapon Art WA on all Crossbows, allow WA usage with one hand
-Add additional attunement slot at 12 ATT
-remove infinite stunlocks
-replace stomp wa with warcry wa on ultra gutsword
>>
Is there a side tourney for Dark Souls 3 at EVO this year?
>>
Guys, what's a good early game Strength weapon in DS2? I'm already tired of the Broadsword.
>>
>>148610478
Bro, I used my slabs for the dumbest weapons you could imagine. I legit feel even embarrassed to tell you which weapons I used it for. I thought slabs were in
finite in this game.
>>
>>148611941
You get the greatsword after killing dragonrider
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>>148611941
honorable mention: estoc
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>>148611883
>replace tackle wa with weapon art wa on all crossbows, allow wa usage with one hand
You can't use L2 to do the WA in one hand because that's how you use multiple bolts

>replace Tackle WA with Weaponart Weaponart

Also, just make an infinite way to obtain slabs appear in NG+ and reintroduce Gravelords with NG+ lockdown
>>
>>148611883
These are all honestly good ideas.
>>
>>148611971
>>148612030
How much better is it than the Bastard Sword? I just remembered McDuff sells that one.
>>
>>148610828

350 hours, still finding new shit to do and try out. I'm actually surprised I'm still enjoying it so much.
>>
>>148611883
I was about to criticize you and your shitty ideas...

but these are actually all great
>>
>>148610828
9/10

It was fucking amazing and is my favorite game of all time, but there's just some slight, tiny thing that feels like it's missing that would have pushed it over the edge to 10/10
>>
>>148611961
what weapons did you use them on becaue they're probably not even that bad unless you used them all on shields or something

>>148612129
Just switch bolts by two handing, hitting R2, then one handing again.

>>148612129
Dunno, never used it. I hate greatswords in DaS2 though. Honestly just stick to the Greatsword UGS and try not to move your stick when you're locked on and attacking.
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>>148611883

I wouldn't increase stamina costs on smaller weapons because they're at where they should be considering the pace of PvE, but the damage for most should be below 400 AR save for a few exceptions.
>>
>>148612120
>>148612239
>samefag

>>148612225
400 ish hours here 357 on one character
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>>148610828
Solid 8 imo. Better than 2, not as good as 1, but close. It has some glaring problems though and hopefully DLC and more patches will fix them.
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>>148611498
>thejoke.png
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>>148612305
No, they're too good.

Some disparity in effectiveness between weapon classes, but light weapons completely outshining ultra weapons is unacceptable.

You should not be able to R1 9 times in a row with a straight sword, axe, rapier, katana, or scimitar.
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>>148612497
>you should not be able to use light weapons in rapid succession
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>>148612497

I think adjusting AR would make far more of a difference, along with lowering Ultra weapon stamina cost. Though either way we can agree as is the gap between stamina cost of both classes are too high while the AR gap is too little.
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>>148612497
I dunno. I feel like you should be able to swing a lighter weapon around more often, but getting hit by any straight sword in pvp is basically a death sentence since they definitely do too much damage and basically stunlock you for 3 hits.

Basically, I'd be fine with them swinging at me a bunch if they didn't nearly kill me in two swings.
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What does it take for Dark Souls to achieve e-sports status?
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>>148612757
Miyazaki to accept the notion of a meta and having mechanics implemented that support it
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>>148612757
Working netcode mostly, but the game's just not built for esports shit and never should be.
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>>148612497
>>148612615

The stamina cost curve for weapons needs to be steepened a bit for some categories, and shallower for the heavier ones. Right now the damage:stamina ratio for a lot of heavier weapons is dismal.
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What are some tips for the Hollowslayer greatsword. I am having so much fun with it, but I need some advanced techniques.
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>>148612582
>>148612585
>>148612615

For balance purposes, this is why I suggested both reduction of LW class efficiency and a reduction of AR. Only split-damage weapons should ever come close to approaching 450 AR at 40/40.

I can't decide on a fair number, but ARs on CS/TS/SS/Kat should fall in the ranges of at 365 to 415 AR. The lower the AR, the more stamina efficient and quicker the weapon should be.

For sheer example: A Dark Sword could be described as more of an axe in how powerful its individual swings, but make its swing speed slower and stamina consumption significantly higher than other weapons in its class.

Example two: The Short Sword is more of a large dagger than a sword, and its stamina economy, speed, and damage should reflect that, in addition to its innate higher critical damage.

>>148613035
I agree.
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>>148613108
Put on that Mirrah Mask and fall off a cliff
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>>148613194
Aight mate, done. What now? Am I gud yet?
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>>148613108
Press R2. You're bound to get a 700 damage counterhit once or twice and win the fight
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>>148613270
No, but you're definitely spot-on as Lucatiel
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>>148610225
NO!

Go to Dukes Dear Freja's boss room.

You can get the soul from the Dragons Memories
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Why do people like the leo ring

Does it make all thrusts, even swords better?

Or just spears
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>>148613134

SS swing only marginally less quickly than daggers if you do an R1 spam comparison, but have nearly quadruple the range and triple the AR. It's laughable.
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I actually really like Dark Souls 3
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>>148613438
All thrust counterattacks in DaS3. Dunno about the other games but in pvp it's pretty easy to chunk people for half their health on a punish with it. Shit's broken.
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>>148613438

All thrust damage.

I like the it because Pickaxe HA + Leo Ring = ~900 damage trades.
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>>148613438
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>>148598273
:3
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>>148613475
I do too, but I got bored with replaying the main game over and over.

Right now I'm just waiting for the DLC since I am shit at PVP and have no drive to improve at it.
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>>148613475
I really like you.
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>>148613438
any thrust

mean if you have good spacing with any thrust weapon you'll fuck literally everybody up with broken ass damage
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>>148613583

I hated PvP until I started taking defeat less seriously and started playing around more with invasions and concord summons. Now I love all the wacky hijinks.
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>tfw no one in the pcfc likes you because you always win
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>>148613671
Now that you mention it, invading pontiff is a lot more fun than actually dueling there.

Invading into dried finger runs especially.
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>>148613739
Nah, we just don't like you.
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>>148613864

I like being invaded a lot, I use the finger all the time. It's like a playground with no rules.
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>>148613507
But that doesnt make sense guys ornstein was a spear dude not a sword / dagger / spear / lance as well dude

Das silly.
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>yfw tfw PCucks will NEVER EVER get Bloodborne
feels good
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im playing a full dex, "assassin" type character. mainhand weapon is sharp dagger, bow on swap. i was thinking about using another weapon in my left hand but ive never really done that before. particularly something with more range than my dagger, maybe a straight sword or a curved sword to keep up with appearances?
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>>148599364
it was the armor set used for the gesture icons
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>Sinners Rise bonfire
>Poison Pool bonfire

Fuck you.
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>>148614289

All rapiers are strong, although an offhand rapier with a main hand dagger is kind of backwards.

Get a Corvian Greatknife - it has the best range of any dagger.
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>>148614223
i borrowed a friend's ps4 to play it

it was okay. nothing to write home about. strong game by itself, but it falls short of its predecessors

definitely has way better lore though.
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>>148614223
>400 dollars and required payment for internet usage for a game with stale pvp, ugly level design, gem farming simulators and a really mediocre try at a Lovecraftian theme, all tied up in a box of really samey uninteresting variations of black capes and shirts and robes to go with your edgy hats because fuck fashion and hell yes to retarded looking pistols and makeshift saws
No.
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>>148614367
its kind of a gimmick character, im going for highest crit, using slumbering dragoncrest and obscuring ring. i wanna basically be a sneaky thief that can run in and hopefully take out a phantom and retreat into hiding.

i use corvian knife sometimes but the crit is a bit lower than a regular dagger
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>>148614408
>>148614418
>Replying to the man shitposting uncontrollably

Stop.
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>>148614223

I know. It makes me sad that because I have a PC I can't just go buy a PS4 and play Bloodborne.
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>>148614418
>$2000 minimum and required Steam DRM usage for console ports with crashes, cheaters and a really dead playerbase all tied up in a box that cant do constant 60fps @ 4k that pcucks like to boast about even though literally none of them can achive that amount of performance even on shitty console ports except for maybe shitty cancerous moba games
kek
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>there is no difference in any of the Curved GS movesets beyond the Old Wolf's WA

Oh how I wish we had at least one thrust attack on this obsolete weapon class.
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>>148614521
i can reply if I want anon

i fucking love all the shenanigans in this general. especially that kekworthy das2 discussion yesterday with havel's greatshield

reminder that havel's greatshield is WORTHLESS and if you dont beat das2 with nothing but shieldbashing you're a shitter
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Can you tail cut Manus?
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God damn it
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>>148614613
Yes! Keep at it!
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>>148614514

Painting Guardian's Curved Sword. It looks neat, it has fantastic bleed, it has a shitty parry offhand, and it has amazing dex scaling.
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>>148614565
I paid 1390 for mine.

I can game at 1440p 60fps but never actually tried 4k cause I dont want it.

Also friend, you seem to love denying the objectively limited usage console users get. I can choose between any controller or M&K, have more control over the graphical capabilities of my machine, I get to upgrade gradually and actually feel an effect of my purchase, I dont get spurned for my money for online usage by companies because they just feel like it. You are actually letting a company take money from you even though its an undeniable fact that they dont need to take money for internet usage, they just know youll pay for it. If youre that willing to let a company cuck you that hard for a single gaming advantage via bloodborne then I honestly feel like bloodborne has brainwashing elements because it really wasnt that good due to my earlier reasons.
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>>148614206

If you look at it that way then the Leo ring doesn't make any sense at all, because Ornstein was a dragonslayer first; are we really supposed to think he slew dragons by fishing for counterhits with his spear?
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>>148614902
>are we really supposed to think he slew dragons by fishing for counterhits with his spear?
Probably. Dragons are huge and fucking scary - I'd imagine you could take every advantage you could get against them and they'd still have the edge in a fight 99% of the time. Makes perfect sense to bait out their attacks and hit them while they're open. It's what we do.
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>>148614613
Yeah it just takes a while. Its pretty worth imo cause you get absolutely nothing out it because no of course you cant you fucking cut his tail off idiot jesus christ shoot yourself
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>>148614849
>1390
>for fucking 1440 "60" fps (notice how you didnt say CONSTANT)
>"i cant achieve 4k but i dont want it anyways!"
jesus fucking christ you might be the literal definition of a cuck in this thread so far
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>>148603108
>>148601356
Ou could just discuss bloodborne here, that's what I would do but i dont own a ps4 because I'm a poorfag.
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>>148615001
Really?
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>>148615019
It is constant 60.

I dont NEED 4k.

You didnt refute A N Y of my other points that are objectively true.

And yes I could use 4k, but no im not sure it would be constant 60. But even if it wasnt, it would still be miles better than your fucking 20fps and 40 minute load screens.

I could paint a fucking mona lisa in the time it takes for Bloodborne to load a level.
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>>148615263
Stop replying to the obvious shitposter for fuck's sake.
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>Want to use FUGS
>It's in Smouldering Lake

Fuck you From.
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>>148615372
>PCucks so retarded they dont even know how to spot a shitposter
Loving every lel.
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>>148615386
It's not that hard to get, come on. You don't even need to go to Cathedral first. Literally 3 bosses in your way.
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>>148615386
>Want to use Lucerne
>It's in Lothric before the first boss

Thanks From.
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>>148614795
yeah i was just looking at that actually. im gonna give that and the shortsword a try
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>>148615475
I DON'T WANT TO GO INTO LOST IZALITHS GAY COUSIN
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>>148615592
Its not even that bad, the dungeon part is actually fun too. Stop being such a bitch
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>mfw found the new best gankspank weapon

jesus christ i almost hit 900 AR using it and three shotted each of the phantoms with one combo kek
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>>148615592
You can run past all the Ghru, and rats and basilisks are both shit. Literally the only threat is Tsorig.
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>>148610554
>still no way to mimic his awesome hair
>here's your shitty legion anime cone with a wig
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>>148615758

Is it Lothric Knight GS?
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>>148610554

Cr8, I saw too much Patches in P8.
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>>148615787
you can cheese him with Alluring Skulls
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>>148614849
I'm a capcom fan and I see nothing wrong with what you just posted.
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Is anyone hosting a PC fight club? just got here
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did artorias bone ciaran
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>>148615579

I like the Shortsword. It has stance, crit, and great scaling for minimal stat investment. Problem is that it benefits way more from refined than sharp, whereas the PGCS will lose nothing and has bleed on top.
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>>148615372
>express relief on how pcucks cant shitup the best souls game and point out how they are wrong
>SHITPOSTERS REEEEEEEE
get out kid
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Is the standard Rapier any good? Recently someone use it, and that stance is stylish as fuck.
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>>148616164

Absolutely. I prefer Rickard's for the stabbystab but base rapier is totally viable and effective.
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Is everyone at sl120? At 80, there are barely any signs.
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Is SL87 too low for Lothric Castle invading?
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>>148616431
are you on pc?
if so there's no signs at all because dead online and fucked netcode
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>>148616431
Most people are at 142, yes.
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>>148616516
Yeah PCuck, I'm on the verge of getting ps4k but I don't want to play fees for multiplayer.
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>>148616650
I never got this argument.
>I-i-i-i-i-i-i-i-i-i don't want to pay at most $30 for PS+!!!
Faggot yet you somehow have the money to spend on a $1000 MINIMUM PC that you barely play games on. There's constant deals tfor PS+ being dirt cheap, you're telling me you can afford hundreds of dollars for shitty yearly GPUs but can't spend like $30 for an entire year sub that gets you free games also? I'm gonna start asking all PCucks this, what is your source of income? Even a bottom feeding low wage job will pay off an entire year of PS+ in a week's paycheck.
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Can you parry katana's running R1s on reaction? I feel like thats the most annoying attack to parry with the small shield. I could use the ceastus, but I wanna git gud with the small shield.
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>>148616920
On reaction it's fucking hard, considering small shields have 10 startup frames and the attack comes out in 26. You'd have to have 15ms reaction time. And that's not counting lag.
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>>148616874
>>148616650
i'm waiting what's your source of income. how are you paying to use internet to browse and post here right now.
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How does this song make you feel /dsg/?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HLiOzoT96QI
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>yearly gpu upgrades
>tfw still using a gtx 560 ti from 2011
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My prediction for the final DLC will be us traveling back to Lordran pre-Dark Souls 1. We'll have revamped fights against series favorites and the final boss will be Gwyn in his prime. It seems like the perfect way to round out the series and I really hope it happens.
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>>148617049
Correction, not 15ms, 15f. That's 1/4 of a second, which is the average visual stimuli reaction time for a regular human
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>>148617318
Oh boy, so I guess I gotta predict it, that's how I have been doing it from the start. But boy did katana users got gud all of the sudden. Goddamn they are annoying, just like fighting a good estoc user.
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>>148617316
At first I wonder who wanted 3 to be 1.5, then I realise people like you exist.
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>>148616920
just spam parry

they'll eventually do the slow ass jumping attack and then just fuck them up
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>>148617316
If you want to play Dark Souls 1 so badly play Dark Souls 1
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i miss ds1 pvp. poise breakpoints made everything so much better. instant backstabs were great too. anyone who complained about it was just shit, you could see them coming from a mile away and easily counter backstab. ds3 and 2 pvp is so boring in comparison.
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>>148617371
Most of them are predictable, though.
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>>148610554
Cr8. At least he was pretty straight forward with his intentions.
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Wew, just beat DaS1. Great game.

I'm gunna take a break from souls for now, but I'll be starting DaS2 in a month or so. Any tips you could spare?
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>>148617757
Rapier
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Yknow I really don't think dark souls really needed a sequel
BB is good because it's a new universe and different lore and different aesthetics and all that, but ds3 just feels... unecessary
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>>148617560
Noice, but sometimes I get ones that start dancing around and shit and start baiting and switching. I know, I know, I have to Git Gud
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>>148617757
Don't
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>>148617780
life is, in and of itself, unnecessary

stop using a thing's necessity to justify shit
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>>148617889
Those that dance around are just asking for you to put up a 100% block shield and a main hand blessed weapon. Beat them at their own game. You can actually throw daggers at them, get a counter hit and dodge out of their way too.
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>>148617757
Level adaptability until agility has reached 100
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>>148617757
Your equip load doesn't measure how fast you roll, but rather how far said roll goes. Also level up that ADP.
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>>148617950
I will try those tactics, but my problem is that I am addicted to parries. It must be the sound, but holy fuck I get so obsessed on parrying those fuckers. I need to chill out on this obsession.
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>>148618023
I understand you. But man, as soon as you're not two handing your weapon, you're giving away what your intentions are, specially in dark souls 2 in which two handing is just so much better in general.
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>>148617757
Don't play on PC.
Get the SOTFS edition.
Spend souls whenever you can. If you don't care about online play at all then ignore this.
Level ADP asap, do not bother trying to roll/dodge in the early game.
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>>148618084
>specially in dark souls 3
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>>148618143
>>148618084
2handing in dark souls 3 does literally nothing
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>>148618249
It gives you 1.5 str bonus and access to most weapon's best moveset. If that's nothing, I don't know what's something.
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>>148618294
no it doesnt, that's what its suppose to do but in reality it barely adds any additional damage and some of the moves are not worth the additional mediocre damage
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>>148617757
You'll become bitter after playing Dark Souls 2.
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>>148618294
Its not the best moveset for many weapons. SS, spears, whips, thrusting swords.
In fact, I only 2 hand GS, daggers or paired weapons.
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>>148612271
More Dancer?

I dunno, just guessing from your picture.
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>>148617757

>Level Adaptability until the "agility" stat reaches 100, this generally happens around ~26 or so.
>Poison is extremely powerful.
>Ultra Weapons must be aimed manually whether locked on not, but they're the fastest and most powerful out of the entire series.
>Shields, especially greatshields, are slow to block and have a small, albeit noticeable, delay from the time you push the button to the moment block frames are active.
>Make sure you talk to the merchant hag in the tower twice, she sells unlimited healing gems after you kill the boss of the area she's located in and they are sorely needed due to the limited Estus you find.
>The DLC is extremely hard. Trying to full clear Brume Tower is virtually impossible without being an extraordinarily high SL and/or having an ungodly amount of healing due to the sheer number of enemies you have to fight at once.
>Fragrant Branches of Yore will soften up the stone figures blocking your paths.
>Curse is no longer and instant kill; fear not the basilisk.
>Petrification is the new curse.
>The Longsword can and will easily take you through the whole game.
>There is a new school of magic called Hexes. It consists of Dark Sorceries and Dark Miracles, as well as some pyromancy-esque abilities.
>You can powerstance and dual-wield weapons by equipping them in your main and offhand, and having 1.5x the required stats to wield them by pressing and holding Y. This mode has increased damage and a changed moveset. Note, not all weapon combinations work.
>Your stamina regeneration speed is directly correlated to your equip load linearly. A higher weight ratio translates to a slower regen. Conversely, lower weight translates to faster regen.
>When it comes to durability, make sure to level up and upgrade at least three weapons. A main weapon, backup weapon, and an emergency weapon.
>Equipment upgrades are the most worthwhile in the entire series.

And watch this. It's adorable.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2kr7KDCsIws
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>>148617757
just get out while you still can. The series goes in a downward spiral from there.
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>linked to some random youtuber video
>apparently people found out an extremely long stunlock on caesti/demon fist
>it's tied to the worst and most predictable attacks that moveset has
>basically perseverance tier where the other guy needs to be completely unaware of what the weapon can do
>except far worse because the huge damage output and lack of trading to make him think he is doing something guarantees nobody will run into it after learning it exists
>also needs to be chest to fucking chest or it'll push him out of stunlock range
>people are unironically acting as if fist weapons were god tier now when they have literally one attack that's actually good, shit range and shit speed on everything else and this stunlock is tied to the probably worst attack
How is this not retarded? It's been a few weeks since I last pvp'd but even with the level on /dsg/'s FCs people would definitely learn to avoid gimmicky oneshots like that fast as fuck, and there's no mix up potential on fucking fist weapons to """"trick"""" anybody.
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>>148618372
It adds up to 60 AR depending on weapon scaling. And most movesets are faster and plainly stronger while 2 handed.

>>148618489
It is for spears. Only those 3 you posted are better off one handed. There's no reason not to use glaives, spears, maces, greathammers, greatswords, ugs, katanas, axes, greataxes and pikes one handed.
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>>148618556
Happy souls is still the best thing to come out of ds2
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>>148618682
Yeah. It's not that great in reality, but works at pontiffs so it's pretty much broken.
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>>148618682
Someone tried that combo on me and I could roll out of the stunlock after an L1 and an R2
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>>148618682
People actually think from intentionally left a 15 hit stunlock in the game that does even more damage than the 2kat weebjump bleed. In fact with the right setup it can likely be a guaranteed oneshot.
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>>148618573
But BB tho
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>>148618914
BB isn't part of the series, though. Never was and never will be.
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>>148618954

Blatant

Demon's Souls

connections

anon
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>>148619103
It's also part of armored core series too because of the moonlight greatsword
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>>148617757
>>148618556
>Arguably the most versatile starting class is the Explorer. It has weak stats overall, but they are all perfectly average and makes for a good first class due to its high adaptability stat and extraordinary amount of extra healing when selecting the "Healing Wares" gift, and can last you many hours into the game.
>Agility determines the effectiveness of various actions such as the speed of item consumption, the amount of iframes available to you during rolling animations, how fast you enter fog gatesWhich do not offer iFrames until you have entered, how quickly your block frames become active after pressing block, how big your penis is and how much fun you will have.
>Resting at bonfires restores your equipment durability, unless the equipment needing repairs is completely broken.
>The hag I mentioned earlier sells the key to the smithy.
>If you're playing online and a sign says "illusory wall", there's a good chance it really is. Please keep in mind that you must press "A" or "X" in order to open them. You cannot reveal an illusory wall by assaulting it.
>When beginning your movement animation, there are acceleration frames your character must go through. Exercise extreme caution when engaging cliff sides, ledges, and other sheer falls.
>Torches may be lit away from static fire sources through the use of a
>Estus heals for 550 HP. 12 can be carried and can be upgraded 5 times for +50 HP each.
>Lifegems restore 500 HP. Radiant lifegems restore 850 HP. Old Lifegems restore 1300 HP.
>Lifegems are mostly useful in non-emergency situations, as they heal over time; estus should be reserved for emergencies or quick healing.
>After you kill an enemy 15 times, it will despawn permanently from the game until NG+ or until a bonfire aesthetic is used. Joining the Champion Covenant in the hub near the cliff also allows temporary respawning. Take care that any of these methods will increase their power.
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>>148619342
>bonfire aesthetic
A E S T H E T I C
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>>148617757
>>148618556
>>148619342
Filename.png
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Is there a mod for DS2 that makes miracles worth using again?
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>>148619736
Just let it go, anon
Patches must've gotten a job at from soft what with how they've treated faith
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>>148619827
There's seriously nothing after all this time?

I went to nexus and all I found was 100 different enb presets.
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Why is it that in some areas the frame rate just drops to 49/50 and changing the settings have no impact?
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>>148620167
Because from is bad at games
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>>148619736
Miracles ARE worth using, anon. Just not so much in an offensive capability.
The extra healing is very, very valuable in the early game, even with lifegems so readily and easily available.
Don't forget the buffs, either.

>>148617757
>>148618556
>>148619342
>After spending 16000 souls in his shop, the armorer in the Hub will sell Alva's set. It is arguably the most efficient armor in the entire series, especially when fully upgraded, having the second greatest defense to weight ratio in not only the entire game, but also the entire soulsborne series.
>Amassing 1,000,000 soul memory OR collecting the souls of the Sinner, the Duke's Dear Freja, Old Iron King, and the Rotten will allow you to progress through towards the game's "Anor Londo" equivalent.

>>148620167
Memeory leaks. Started happening with 1.07 and worsened with the anti-hacker patch that gave us hitching.
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>>148620185
Why can't they just git gud?
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Can a nigga get a hand with the Fume Knight?
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>>148620232
Absolutely senpai.

Post your SL, SM, your playstyle/build, your system and whether or not you have the password ring.
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>>148620167
>game only utilizes a SINGLE CORE
>GPU barely used because of this, so changing settings only changes the load on GPU which doesn't make a difference in frame rate because the game is being bottle necked by A SINGLE CORE
>memory leaks out the ass so you have to restart the game every two hours

From cannot make a functioning game, that's why
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>>148620408
I thought that the new consoles have multi-core processors by now? Why is From unable to multithread their code?
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>>148620214
>Just not so much in an offensive capability.

Yeah, that's my problem.
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>>148620290

100, 1778402, PC. Rocking a Greatsword.

No ring.
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Newt do you still exist?
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>>148617757
>Any tips you could spare?
Parrying and backstabbing is a lot harder.
Rolling from enemy attacks is ineffective since they have powerful tracking.
An "in your face"-playstyle is much harder in early DaS2 than it is in Dark Souls 1. Enemies will mob you because it seems that there's more input delay than usual, which means you commit to attacks more, and thus in group situations a wrong move can be fatal.
If you try to take on the trio in your picture early on without magic, they'll rape your ass.
Throwing knives and Poison are actually useful in this game.
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>>148620561
Alright dude, take a portal back to Majula with 5600 souls and purchase the "Name Engraved Ring" from the cat. Equip it, and set the password to "God of Struggle".

I also just ever so slightly happen to be out of your range. You'll need to be SL101 to summon me when using the small white soapstone, as I'm SL136.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UkgxAFiAd90
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>>148620873
That fashion is horrible. Almost made me close tab immediately
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>>148620873
Awesome video, inferno! :D
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What's a fun easymode melee weapon that you can get early-ish in DaS 3?
Already did a run with the Claymore.
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>>148620858

Alright. I've made the necessary preparations. I'll be waiting by the lowermost floor bonfire. Thanks in advance.
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>>148621171
Literally any straight sword.
Estoc
Card Captor Sakura
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>>148618556
>tfw you played through ds2 with a friend a year back
>watching this video

i did not ask for these feels, anon
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>>148621171
Raw ASS
Executioner's GS
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>>148610828
>What would you guys give it out of 10
8.5 out of 10 with Dark Souls being 8 out of 10 and DS2 without DLC a 7/10.

Imo the biggest problems besides the technical issues are the lack of NG+ that's at all interesting. They had the capability to make NG+ absolutely terrifying using DS2 NG+ style but with the actually fun to fight DS3 enemies and well designed levels.

Permagravelorded DaS1 NG+ is still the most fun NG+ experience because all the other games either have problems with the base game itself or they put no effort to NG+ being even a slightly different experience.

Oh yeah, and the way the game world is set up is kicking the replayability in the groin pretty hard currently.

The DLC may yet fix things and make it a 9/10.
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>>148621176
I just saw your phantom, I'm pretty sure.

Dress + Havel's Greatshield/Gutsword?

I still can't see your summon sign, Are you using the Small Soapstone summon sign, or the big one? If you are, try the other one.
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>>148610828
DS1 is 9.5, it'd be like a 9.8 if the Demon Ruins and Bed of Chaos were better
DS2 would be a 7
BB is 9.2
DS3 would be an 8/8.5 so far, but we'll see what the DLC does
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>>148621335
I don't think you can see mine***

Jesus I'm confusing myself.

Let me go double check the summon range.
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Thinking about making a Curved Greatsword build. There's only 4 of them, but are any of them more worthwhile than the others? They all seem pretty similar, especially given that 3 of them have the same WA.
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If you had to create a new stat/attribute what would it be?
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>>148620507
Suddenly,, I want to see Gwyn's battle garb in the DLC.
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>>148621458
Charisma, opens up new dialog options with NPCs
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Are there any good fast strength weapons besides heavy Dark Sword? I want to dual wield with FUGS in my left hand and something to compliment it

Also why the fuck is almost everything skewed towards quality this game? It's depressing.
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>>148621082
thanks.
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>>148610828
I have thousands of hours on ds1 and ds2, could only stomach about 500 with ds3, already sick of the pvp and invasions.


8/10 for the PvE
3/10 for the PvP
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>>148621517
I just want to see sets that don't suck in the DLC.
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>>148621440

I'm assuming you're Drake. That was a good attempt. Any critique?
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>>148610828
DS3 is an amazing game whose only design flaws concern a small group of people and aren't dire enough to lower its score. If DLCs will add more covenants and unique weapons it will be the best souls game, though i don't think it will ever reach BB's level.
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>>148621671
Yes, that's me.

No, no critique here. If you have a weapon that's the same upgrade but faster, like an estoc, longsword, etc it's smarter to use it.

Don't try blocking this guy unless you have this shield. I've tried. Never ends well.

Just dodge everything and DPS very hard.
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>>148621709
So just like DaS2..
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>>148621671
Level to 212, and stack poise.
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sotfs. My targets switching automatically every 0,5 sec. What is wrong? Tried restarting, replugging, configuring controls. Issue appeared randomly after 30 hours. No AHK, just x360ce. Help
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>>148621458
>new stat/attribute
Hollow.
Basically when you die, you gradually build up towards triggering Hollowing in DS3 and when that happens, your max health suffers a hit, but take less damage from self buffs like Power Within and are naturally more resistant to certain types of damage and weaker to other kinds of damage such as blessed. It's a hidden stat and would trigger at something like 100/200 ish deaths. You could get rid of it with Purging Stones and/or Firekeeper Dark Sigil heal.

As an aside, I kinda think that Salt and Sanctuary's health mechanic where your maximum health decreases a tiny bit when you get hit would fit into Souls very well. The maximum health decrease would be only temporary, but it would make PvP less focused on chugging since the effectiveness of chugging would be less and less the more you get hit.
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>>148621823
DS2 is a piece of shit with or without DLCs, fuck off back to it and never mention that abomination to me again.
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You get used to dodging the big sword after a few hundred attempts. It's only safe to heal after he swings it.
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>>148621823
no dude u dont understand ds2 is the worst game ever

only miyazaki san can make amazing games like my favorite game blood borne
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>>148621874
ok have fun with DaS3;^)
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For the record Gutsword bro-op buddy, I am perfectly fine with 30-40 attempts.

It took me 72 deaths before I killed him, and over 400 attempts at SL1.
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>>148621573
>could only stomach about 500 with ds3
Considering the game launched only 3 Months ago, that means you've played 5,5 hours of DS3 every single day.
How do you find time from work and commitments to play so much?
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>>148622009
honestly if not for the crippling gameplay issues and lack of attention to detail in general I probably would've liked DS2 a lot more than 3.
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>>148622139
>work and commitments
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Tips for my build? How could I improve it? etc
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>>148622263
>70 vit
But why
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>>148622263
>tfw i am literally become a meme

Hey fumebro, where are you?

>>148622339
it's a meme you dip. NG+7 character
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>>148622263
40 luck and hollow infusion obviously. then 60 faith and DMB
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>>148622395
>full havel's
>only 8 poise
Wait what
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>>148622263
You could stop being such a shitter, for one
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>>148620117
You won't find much in the manner of mods other than retextures
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>>148622520
This menu only shows poise you get from leveling ADP
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Anyone down to help a bro out with twin princes on PC?
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>>148622139
I haven't played since like a month and a half and have 200 hours while working full time and having a pretty active life.
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>>148622645
What do you need help with? Lorian's openings are the size of a truck
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>>148619736

CE
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>>148622745
Sure senpai, on the way.

The guy I was just helping in DaS2 just disappeared.

You'll know me when you see me.
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>>148622773
second phase; never mind, I just beat him
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>>148622784
I wanted to do a pursuer cosplay using his weapon's r2s as a faith chime to cast dark greatsword, but apparently there's no moveswap tables anywhere.
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You know what they should add to 3? That purple explosion miracle that hackers used in Dark Souls 1.
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>>148623757
The karma thingy?

There's no way that From would let anything lay a scratch on the host and his team of babysitters.
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Should I confirm Siegward is in Boreal Valley before I send Greirat to pillage it?
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>>148619736
>>148620117
>There's seriously nothing after all this time?

There can't be any gameplay affecting mods for a game whose multiplayer and singleplayer are integrated.

There's the Cheat Engine, but unfortunately people use it mostly for instawinning multiplayer fights instead of cool shit like this.
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Anyone still playing 3 since release day?
How?
I kinda don't want to drop it entirely but I ran out of fun things to do 1 month in
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this was me yesterday

damn swamp
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>>148623842
This thing:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SCxPccPDMnc

Though adding in the actual Karmic Justice would be awesome too, as well as TWoP, if they could get them to work right.
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>>148624047
>Guts
>Shield
>Guts
>Shield
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>>148624047

>Guts
>Shield
Hope he died
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>>148623996
Uninstalled after less than 100 hours. I actually played 2 more than 3, that's a bit sad.
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>>148624047
>want to make a Guts character
>always get the face wrong so he ends up looking like a gay porn parody version of Guts
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>Read message near Emerald Herald
>Horse but hole

What did he mean by this?
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Bi-monthly reminder that a lie will remain a lie.
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>>148599364
I always thought it had something to do with the Alva set being tied to specifically one person. If the posterboy set for DkS2 was the Alva set, which belonged specifically to Alva, it could have caused some confusion as to how important Alva was, or if you were actually playing as Alva in Dark Souls 2. Meanwhile, the Faraam set was just a generic set of armor that could have belonged to anyone, and still looked cool.

Then again, in DkS3, the Firelink Set is the posterboy armor, and it belongs specifically to the Soul of Cinder, so I don't know.
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>>148624271
>What did he mean by this?
Either
Horse --> Whore
but hole --> butthole

Or he thinks the Emerald Herald is a horse's ass.
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>>148624138

I played 2 just as much as 1. But I just have no motivation to play 3 anymore and I'm glad I didn't buy the season pass because at this point I will probably just watch some youtube fag play through the DLC
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>>148624440
I'll wait until I see what weapons the DLC adds to consider buying it. The game desperately needs variety and it would need to be damn good for it to actually make it fun to continue playing.
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>>148624271
'Whore's butthole'

It's pretty clean cut

>People are still playing Dark Souls 2

For what purpose?
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>>148624518
It actually has some replayability
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>haven't played any souls games in years
>decide to check out /dsg/ to see what's happening
>people are STILL arguing about DaS2 and DaS3

It doesn't matter which game is better because they're both shit and Bloodborne is the superior game.
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>>148624518
>People are still playing Dark Souls 1

Because it's fun, anon.
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>>148624637
Could've fooled me. Don't tell me the contrarians like DaS2 now?
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>>148624339
>>148624339

>think Faraam set belongs to an important NPC or boss that you kill somewhere along the lines
>it ends up being tossed in some random crevice in a later area
>no NPC wears it

I would've liked a lot if Faraam was DaS2's Elite Knight and you could encounter characters/enemies wearing it since it'd be more reasonable than seeing a lot of stuff associated with Astora, since Astora is essentially from a different continent.

>Eleum Loyce knights wear Astora shit instead of Faraam armor which looks much more fitting to cold areas.

>>148624339
Speaking of Alva, did that comic end up being anything decent?
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>>148624725

I always liked it, just less than 1.
For me the games continuously got worse
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Requesting pvp videos of players going waaay beyond their encumberance and winning somehow. Their lumbering movements amuseme.
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>>148608818
What spear is that?
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>>148624940
Saint Bident.
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>>148624440
>I will probably just watch some youtube fag play through the DLC
I want to see ENB play it(after playing it myself, of course), but he's probably tired as shit about DS3.
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>>148623962
I wish hacker boss fights would make a return, Grapfic seemed kinda cool for me
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>join sirris for hodrick battle
>sirris casts magic barrier / GMB
I-is this another case of 1int?
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>>148624984

I think the only soulsbourne DLC he ever played on cam was AotA. Maybe not even that, not sure
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>>148616874
>>148617191
Not him but ps3 didn't jew me for multiplayer and as far as i can tell there's no reason Sony did it other than the fact that microsoft did it and they wanna be jews too.
I buy your console for 400 buckaroos and then have to buy the gamesand you charge me for a free pc feature? Nah.
As far as I'm concerned if a game has a multilayer mode then I also paid for that privilege with my 59.99. I don't care how cheap it is, don't treat me like one of those xbox savages.
Instead I'll enjoy my 60 fps with the occasional glorious steam sales that consolebabbys can only dream of.
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>>148615758
Are you gonna tell us what it is?
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>>148624768
And Faraam's also looks like plastic-y shit in game compared to the artworks.
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>>148625246
Old Wolf Curved Sword

40 end, chloranthy and favor rings mandatory. Gotta out-cardio your opponents.

R1+L2+R2 = 700 damage minimum|

The OWCS's effect and the pontif rings stack, but the OWCS has no limit to how much the damage can be increased, while the pontiff ring is a flat 15% increase.

The last attack of the above combo gets a ~25% damage boost. If multiple targets get caught in the combo, the damage will skyrocket into 2k+ damage, which is what happened earlier.
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>>148625104
>I think the only soulsbourne DLC he ever played on cam was AotA. Maybe not even that, not sure
He played Artorias of the Abyss at least twice on cam. He's played Dark Souls 1 on multiple systems. If they rereleased DS1 for PS4+made a PC release for better grafix, he'd probably get on that too.
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Almost about to meet Deacons now.

How am I looking?
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>>148624993
Sirris has always been an idiot
I swear to god, she does so little damage to both Creighton and Hodrick that her Estoc must either be unupgraded or her stats are everywhere but DEX.
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>>148625576
like a pussy bitch
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>>148625576
>that sword
UGLY
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Anyone have any experience with crossbows?

I know the Knight's Crossbow is liquid dog ass, but how does the Arbalest compare to the Avelyn?
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>>148625760
all good for pve
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How would you fix DS3's durability?
My suggestion :
>durability recharges at the bonfire unless it goes below 90% and the bonfire refresh will cap at 90% durability
>below 75% you'll have to spend some souls to repair items, use a Powder at the bonfire or fix them for free at Andre, otherwise the bonfire refresh will cap the durability at 75%
>below 50% you'll have to go repair them for free at Andre and the bonfire and the bonfire refresh will cap the durability at 50%.
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>>148625407
Interesting.

I had an OWCS build planned out after I realized it had that effect a qhile ago, but I never actually built it, so now maybe this is the time to. Have you thought a bout using Carthus Beacon at all? It gives you a flat damage boost and a further increase as you attack, one similar if not identical to the pontiff ring. On a final note, I've heard somewhere that the OWCS's attack/HP regen buff occurs regardless of whether or not you are attacking with it, meaning that if you have a weapon in your right hand and the OWCS in your left hand, attacking consecutively with the weapon in your right hand will proc the buff. If this is still true, then other weapons that have innate combos comined with an offhand OWCS may also have gank-spank potential.

Thanks for the tip f a m.
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>>148625824
it doesn't need fixing
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>>148625690
Titanite is so plentiful now that I'm just testing it out for fun. Dont know if its good or not.
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>>148625824
Bring back DaS2 durabiltiy so that Durability, like any other stat, has to be taken into consideration when deciding upon a weapon.

I can guarantee you getting poked by katanas would happen far less frequently.
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>>148625942
Speaking of DS2, what havoc would be wrought if the Mundane infusion were to make a return?
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>>148625942
DS2 durability never stopped katanas from being one of the top tier classes
All it did is creating needless tedium.
Thankfully that shit system is gone and never going to return.
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>TFW i killed the host on a PvP
>He summons me again
>I kill him
>Summons me again
>Kill him
>Summons me again
>Kill him
Why, this is the 10th time?
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>>148625989
thankfully unlike ds2, nobody goes to high levels in ds3 so it will be uselss
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>>148625989
Its going to be either pre-patch and OP
or post-patch and useless on anything other than 387 memebuilds
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So, anyone up for pc fightclub? Can't host myself, everything's dead. Not much incentive to head into ng+ either.
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>>148626083
no, the fourth
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>>148626089
Except for the 387 Mile-High Club of elite shitters
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>>148625690
Fuck you thats a perfect looking Paladin/Crusader sword.
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>>148626083
salt
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>>148626178
No thats how many times he summoned me, he gets hit 3 times with my Zwei and dies, he also tries to parry and has the dark sword
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>implying mundane wouldnt be op before that
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>>148603823
Man, I really wish I could wear armor but still be in dragon form. Yeah, I'm a scalefag, what of it

Being all skinny and naked isn't very imposing.
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>>148626195
>one of a few normal titanite weapons you can't infuse
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>>148626358
Just wear amor with no helmet and do dragonhead. You won't be able to roar but you could still be an imposing dragon
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>>148626384
You can buff it though can't you? I'm going for a Faith build so thats kind of the whole point.
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>>148626348
>old mundrake
I see the new memes are hot and spicy
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>>148626384
it's already heavy :^^^^^^)
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>>148626384
no weapon with a unique effect can be infused
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>>148626358
>tfw no black dragon armour
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>>148626535
kek
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>>148626083
>Summon dude for PvP, not realizing it's a PvP summon
>Get stomped
>Keep summoning the guy over and over again and just suicide myself, wasting his time until he stops laying his summon sign
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>>148626503
Yeah.
Buffs are a dangerous game, though.
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>>148626773
How so? 30 FTH doesn't seem like too big an investement.
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>the farron greatsword will never be good

feels terrible
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DO YOU THINK THAT WATER DRIPS DOWN, EVEN DEEP BELOW, AT THE BOTTOM OF THE SEA?
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>>148626850
>what are duel charms
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>>148626850
>30 FTH.
You're gonna need to double that to make any buff but Blessed Weapon worth it.
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>>148621457
Please respond.
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>>148627082
Old Wolf Curved Sword.

Sprinting R1 > L2 > R2
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>>148626994
What about Moonlight Blade? I love the visual effect of it.
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Prisoner's Chain aside, is this build any good? The OWCS special attack buff procs on any weapon so long as you're holding it, and the Gotthard's R1-L2-R2 Combo has enough hits in it to proc both the OWCS and the Pontiff Eye buff, raising the damage, with a 60 fth Lightning blade on top of it.
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>>148627118
Any recommendations on the best way to get 10 swordgrass, in that case?
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>>148627082
40/40 Refined Exile Greatsword is pretty much the best option for Curved Greatswords.

OWCS is also not bad due to it's innate attack buff effect. To farm the swordgrass for it, just spawn in at the Farron Keep bonfire with the Ghru's on the bridge behind it, then kill them, then repeat.
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>>148627141
If you're talking about the Moonlight Greatsword weapon, it's an INT weapon.
If you're talking about Darkmoon Blade the buff then yes, 60 faith is still a necessity for it to be worth it. Although DMB has the added bonus of being a giant pain in the ass to get.
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how do I make Hexes/dark magic work in DaS3?
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>>148627398
you don't. the only good hexes are pyros, so go pyro
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>>148627186
Sure do.
'
Kill those two dudes in heavy armor near the crucifixion woods bonfire, collect their gear, pump viatality, use your preferred meta weapon (estoc, longsword, darksword etc) and wait around SL25-30 for a summon while farming goats for souls at farron keep bonfire.

Heavy armor + Vitality at low level is fucking broken OP.
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>>148627474
are you sure? that's very disappointing
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>run into Aldritch (nice nostalgia flashes btw From)
>slap his ass like a cheap hooker
>until he gets out the arrowspam that goes on for like 30 seconds straight
I'm literally running out of space to flee to that isn't already full of arrows.
I've always complained about endless fucking attack combos on every enemy that i came across and I will do it here again: ATTACKS THAT GO ON FOREVER OR GET CHAINED INTO ENDLESS COMBOS FUCKING SUUUUCK.

That said, disregarding the cheese, I think I'll get him on the next handful of tries.
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>>148627186
Here's an example setup for collecting that grass.

Swap the helmet out with whatever fashion you want that you can still use the estoc + grass crest with and you're golden.

I can suggest more Vig obviously, but you will be taking about half the damage you would normally from players at that level with this gear, so your effective HP is actually much higher.
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>>148627696
They probably wanted to make an actual blob boss (they've been trying for years), realized they couldn't and just shoehorned the 'muh gwyn' in, which would make sense with how lazy the fight is.

It's not hard once you figure it out, but it remains tedious and boring. Granted, you can simplify most/all Souls bosses to 'wait for them to stop doing shit, now do your shit', but Aldrich feels like the ratio of waiting for him to stop being a massive faggot and throw all his shit around to attacking is just approaching sleep levels.

He really doesn't have anything outside the lazy tracking arrows in stage 2, figure that out and the boss is trivial and disappointing.
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>>148627872
gwyndolin*

>>148626994
did they buff blessed weapons duration in that recent patch or nah?
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>>148627959
As far as I know, it's still just 45 seconds.
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>>148627656
Expanding my point:
no hex ring, if you want 2 types of magic you have to use 2 boost rings.
Lifehunt Scythe does bad dmg, but is rumored that can be used against ganks (talisman).
Gnaws are still slow and easily dodgeable.
Affinity is ok but suffers from tracking.
Dark edge without some HA is trash. dmg is not that great either.
Deep soul is slow and has bad tracking. but i guess you could spam it since it cost little fp.
Black fire orb is just an inferior version of GCFO, it's ok i guess.
Black flame comes out really fast and can combo with pyro hand's wa
Black serpent got a better tracking since the last patch, making it useful
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Hello?
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>http://pastebin.com/rM24RUHw
Someone should add this to the DaS pastabin
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>>148626727
50 thousand hours in sai
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>>148628861
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>>148625876
I believe Durability needs to be made a thing again to rebalance the game.

One idea to explore would be to change how the different infusions would work with the weapons :
Make weapons just regular +10 or Heavy and they retain durability well, make them RAW or Refined and they don't have that much durability. Sharp would retain the durability somewhere between regular upgrade path and RAW / Refined.

Elemental upgrades wouldn't affect durability.
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>>148629060
fuck, i posted the unfinished one
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>>148629126
thank gods From doesn't give a shit about you or your ideas
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>>148629123
sweet jesus I hope the DLC adds more armor variety
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>>148627696
>until he gets out the arrowspam that goes on for like 30 seconds straight
The attack's fine.

>>148627872
>They probably wanted to make an actual blob boss
Literally the most boring type of enemy.

I hope they would make some cool Hellbeast boss in the DLCs like the Pontiff dog because while I like muh dudes in armor, I'd love to see good beast fights against disgusting tentacle monstrosities that don't fight with weapons, but instead shit like tentacles / claws / other appendages.
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>hosted my first gank at pontiff
>seeded ng+
>way of blue to help bluebros
>killed about 20 invaders before getting bored

Invaders need a buff.
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>>148629458
>The attack's fine.
>it tracks you around the room at sprint speed until you run out of stamina
>fine
Yee
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>>148593191
>hurr let me just stay out of range of this guy's attacks and then go in for easy running R1s
jesus fuck that guy's playstyle is fucking disgusting
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>>148628861
delete this
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>>148629553
invaders at pontiff are absolute trash
if you want a better challenge gank the watchdogs as it's a dedicated gank spank area
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>summoning aborted due to time out
>summoning aborted due to time out
>summoning aborted due to time out
>summoning aborted due to time out
>summoning aborted due to time out
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AnphNbo24oY check it ourt i did a souls vengange got the meg kirk i want to bang so hard, wnet to wedding tonight and wanted to bang a girl therer
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>>148629291
What's so bad about them?
I understand that these are subjective opinions, but I'd like to hear why you don't think a feature that has been in 4 (or 5) games thus far isn't something they care about?

I respect your opinion, but it'd be nice to hear some arguments why.

Did Bloodborne have durability mechanic?
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memehackzaki
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>>148624518
I like the environments and the art. I like sitting next to the herald and just staring at the scenery.
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>>148630159
memeyahacki
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Haven't played since release.
How dead is this game?
I'm thinking of doing a Berserk build, will I get fucked in PvP? What weapons reign supreme, still the Estoc and Dark sword?
Is poise back?
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>>148630326
hype train's definitely dead
yes, yes, and carthus curved sword
you wish
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Also :
>>148629291
>thank gods From doesn't give a shit about you or your ideas
>>148630063

Heh, actually FromSoft has been good at making my wishes come true in the past :

>Health loss when hollowing
>Better functioning Blue Covenant
>NPC mobs that patrol
>mobs that act as sentries
>Covenants actually affect shit
>people react to you differently based on if you're Hollowed or not (half-arsed but still)
>merchants have their own storylines
>setpieces where other NPCs battle monsters
>lore-appropriate monster infighting
>red eye monsters from Demon's Souls coming back
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>>148630326
>I'm thinking of doing a Berserk build,
You and literally everyone else in existence.
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>>148630504
your point?
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>>148630464
>>merchants have their own storylines
Totally garbage ones at that that require a fucking guide to work through
And don't even attempt to tell me that you got that shit bang on without looking it up
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>>148630504
Oh, I have met my fair share of "Guts" who instantly swap for Dark sword.
>>148630460
Eh, I think I'll wait until the DLCs hit, the honeymoon phase is definitely over for me and now the game just seems bland and boring.
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>>148630326
Estoc's been nerfed considerably
Unless it's in the left hand,, that shit's still broken
There's the new memes now, 2kat that insta-bleed and caestus infinite stunlock
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>>148630759
I think the last update nerfed left handed estocs too. Scrubs still complain about the weapon though.
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>>148630504
>>148630539
>>148630624
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Leftstoc still had the reduced efficiency, it's just a good offhand weapon for the quick pokes.

I saw some guy with a BKG and leftstoc who went 26 - 0 in an FC effortlessly, and flawlessed half of them at pontiff, although that isn't saying much.

Some greatshield turtle gave him a run for his money and only barely lost.
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hollow infusion doesn't add luck anymore?
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>>148631210
Gotta have 99 hollowing.
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>>148631210
Only if you have 50+ hollowing, did you use a purging stone or had the sigils removed anon?
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>>148631147
>DS1
Eh, don't really agree with the choice of sword either, but that might just be me.
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>>148631210
you need to be hollow and it depends on weapon upgrade. needs +10 for the 5 extra luck
>>148631274
>>148631297
i thought it only needed 15?
>>148631331
ds1 doesn't have much better for moveset and bkgs is the biggest and baddest sword
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>>148630018
nice man keep it up or i'll break ya drink the juice of estus too
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>>148630927
Does Bloodborne have weapon durability?
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>>148631761
Yes.
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>>148631761
Yes, but it's hardly ever a problem except with the Tonitrus
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Why do people always say that Sulyvahn was some kind of evil mastermind in DaS3, again?
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>>148631852
He fed Yaoi-god to Aldrich.
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>>148631829
>there are people who ACTUALLY used cursed gems with - X DURABILITY effects
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Why do people say Lorian was some kind of lovely baker again?
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>>148632082
Who?
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>>148632195
Lorian
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>>148631852
Probably because of his fucked up dogs and the Outrider knights.
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fucking pickaxe

goddamnit why

Fuck that thing. who thought it was a good idea to let that shit deal that much base damage on top of it fucking STACKING with the leo ring


OCEEEEEEEEEEEEEEELOOOOOOOOOTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>148631962
It's not so bad on a weapon with high durability anyway, and apparently they effect doesn't stack so you can get three durability down gems and essentially on have one curse (I have not tested this myself though), and it doesn't negatively affect your damage output. Plus, they are handy on the bow blade since if you use it as a bow only, the durability never comes into play.
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pistol vs blunderbuss

why would I ever pick the blunderbuss
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>>148632384
is the bowblade a trick weapon or a gun

>>148632426
infinitely easier to hit speedy niggers with.

if you're high bloodtinge get the pistol, otherwise only use the blunderbuss to parry
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Is the Storm Ruler viable for PVE/PVP?
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>>148632475
The bow blade is a trick weapon. One mode is a crappy sword, the other is a bow and arrow.
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>>148632373
>getting hit by the pickaxe
Mine for more skill
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>>148632426
To be like the hunter on the cover.
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>>148632476
it's extremely good on a SL1.
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>>148632475
Trick-weapon.
Use it like a gun, like the Chikage, its untricked sucks dick.
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>>148632475
>otherwise only use the blunderbuss to parry

>miss parry
>become a sitting duck because your character has to wait 1000000 years to exit the "shooting" animation before you can dodge
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>>148632426
I prefer the pistol for the range. Blunderbuss's advantages are it's wider range and stagger.
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>>148632373
>OCEEEEEEEEEEEEEEELOOOOOOOOOTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
I wish DS3 would have more memes.
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>>148632426
Good spread and stagger meaning it pairs well with reitersplash and other pokey weapons. You're better off using Ludwig's gun though, which you can get by the time you get the pokers.
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>>148632654
212
1
2
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>>148632654
god i wish that was me
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>>148632373
>deal that much base damage
Nigga the base damage sucks, it's barely more than the warpick
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>>148632690
that's more of a /dsg/ meme
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>>148632654
Maybe the DLC will give memeworthy npcs and stuff.
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>>148632745
i didn't literally mean its base damage

I meant the damage before you add leo hits to it
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>>148632789
>>148632654

>wanting more memes
hello, reddit!
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>>148632894
>wanting more memes
>uses a meme

you'd want them to if you could recognize a meme when you use it
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>>148632852
That's what I meant, too. The base damage is mediocre for what is essentially a greataxe, might as well use Yhorm's or GM for twice the range and not care about counter hits.
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>>148632894
somebody get this hothead outta here
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Fuck the fucking Cave of the Dead. LITERALLY Black Gulch with petrify instead of poison and with a shitty ganksquad boss at the end.
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FC WHEN.
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>>148632894
I've literally never used Reddit.

>>148632726
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>>148632994
I WAS COUNTER HIT FOR 872 FUCK OFF
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AHH, YOU IGNORANT SLAVES... FINALLY TAKEN NOTICE, HAVE YOU?
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>>148632894
>memes are a reddit thing
aren't you a bit young to be on the 4chins?
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>phantoms can now trigger boss fights
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>>148633218
That is perfectly fine if that was an R2 or if you got caught during instability frames
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>>148633218
>WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHH
>I GOT HIT BY A SLOW SHITTY WEAPON AND LOST
>IT'S NOT FAIR MOMMY MAKE THEM STOP
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>>148633268
Things is 4chan didn't make memes for the sake of making memes, and calling something a meme was the quickest way to make sure it didn't become one. LURK MOAR
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Can someone help me with the Pontiff battle? I'm on PC at the Church bonfire pls help

password is dsg
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>>148633230
IGNORANT SLAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAVES
GET THE FUUUCK OUT OF MY GARDEN
OCELOOOOOOOOTTE
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>>148633552

ill be there
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>>148633445
noone said anything about forcing them. the most memeworthy stuff doesn't need to be called a meme to catch on, it will catch on and people will realise it's a meme.
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>>148633584
thanks, anon
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>finally got the Red Iron Twinblade
Oh my god, this thing is incredible. Great damage, great reach, great moveset. I can't believe I fell for the powerstanced dual caestuses meme. Just a shame you pretty much have to be done 70% of the game to get it.
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>>148633552
He is actually pretty easy solo.

>Just parry and riposte him when he is alone.
>When he takes a knee, back up to avoid his AoE
>Spam him when he is summoning his clone (try to damage both at once). If you are Quality spam R1, if you are a Pyro, spam your Chaos Orb, etc.

Rinse and repeat.

>>148633674
Saying you want more memes is forcing it. Either it happens naturally or it doesn't.
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anyone got a spare dark sword they could drop me on PC? for a cosplay literally called "cancer"
thanks
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>>148633815
shit, got one immediately
nevermind
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>>148633728
>great reach, great moveset
lol
Good luck hitting anyone with this thing in pvp lmao.
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>>148599364
>>148599389
>>148624339
It's because Faraam armor looks more like generic armor you'd find in Skyrim, and they wanted to ride the TES train, because FUCK bamco.
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>yfw people bring up pvp in scholar of the ded gaem or prepare to ded gaem

literally no one plays das2 or das online on any system.
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>>148633946
Well, it has significantly better reach than dual caestuses. And I'm mostly just doing PvE.
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>>148633584

thanks again anon, sorry if i was being a bit useless

http://images.akamai.steamusercontent.com/ugc/272849249419658562/AFF6E1A13E133CB5F797AD825B2D43D8D1B62E2A/
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>>148633721

FYI theres a much faster shortcut if you go around past the boss fog and down the other side, it opens a door that you can run to straight from the church
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>>148633728
>powerstanced dual caestuses
don't remind me. biggest disappointment. 0 reach, mediocre damage, animation locking you on a straight line.
>done with 70% of the game
50% if you haven't done the dlcs
10% if you count ng+ for extra content, since lots change
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>>148634172
oh, i wasn't aware of that. 4 NG+s in and I still haven't figured that out..
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Okay /dsg/.

I have a challenge for you.

Hit someone with a jumping attack out of a reverse backstep and record it, and I'll give you any slabbed weapon of your choice.
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>>148634476
>reverse backstep
you mean ravioli? can you do it in 3?
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they should add another angelic miracle that is similar to farron dart for faith users

make it like those beams that the mangrub mages shoot
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>>148633994
>associating Faraam armor with the abortion that was Skyrim's armor design
i'll fuck you up
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>>148634276
>4 NG+s in and has to go through irithyll dogs every time you want to try pontiff
Sweet jesus that gives me the shivers
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>>148634909
It was literally part of DaS2's "We want the Skyrim audience" pitch.

Just like that trailer that showed the player fighting a dragon in the snow which had literally nothing to do with the actual game.
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>>148634476
Addendum: it must be during an invasion, duel, or FC.

No setups, must be forward facing.

Here's what it looks like.
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>>148635080
>Just like that trailer that showed the player fighting a dragon in the snow which had literally nothing to do with the actual game.
It probably had something to do with the game at the time. Early plans for Dark Souls II were much, much more different to what we got.
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>>148634736

You can only do it if you're running the game at 60 fps or so, otherwise it's not possible for some reason.
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>>148635080
>>148635164
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k-dcwB3qTMA

>all this shit that was never in the game
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>>148635103
I never understood the point of this outside of HCSM shenanigans in DaS1.
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>>148635164
We can blame Shibuya for that.
I really do wonder what we would have gotten if Tanimura was director from the start.
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>>148635279
Yeah, I often feel sorry for Tanimura. He catches a lot of heat for DaSII's shortcomings, but really he managed to salvage with what little he had quite well.
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>>148635279
>>148635406
What exactly did Shibuya do? Was he just incompetent or something?
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>>148635240
>sheaths gone
>kalameet 2.0 gone
>manikins had literally no face in-game
>those areas that looked six million times better than the cookie cutter levels
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>>148635406
Nah, the director is exactly who is too blame. The other guy was at least trying to make something great. The second guy was Bamco cock sucker that bowed down before then and gave them the rushed mess they wanted.
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Can anyone give me some build advice or critique?

I feel like I messed up somewhere.
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>>148635630
>>148635630
>>148635630
New Thread
>>148635630
>>148635630
>>148635630
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>>148635674

>212

stop this shit
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>>148635565
nothing, he was just making another, soulslike game and bamco decided they wanted a dark souls 2 RIGHT NOW
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>>148635242

You can also use it to escape certain backstab chains or position yourself for a backstab in DaS1. In DaS2 and DaS3 it just gives you more options for movement, which is always good.
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DS3 servers are down.
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>>148635758
>or position yourself for a backstab in DaS1
I did this a few times, but if you were playing against a good player, it just opened you up to a BS too.
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Does anyone ever seriously backstep? I just thought of backsteps as shitty rolls.
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>>148637160
In 2, backsteps had iframes so they were stronk as fuck.

In 3 they have their uses but it's not a super big deal. It's sort of like Bloodborne where outside of ravioli shenanigans, the backstep is pretty damn shit.
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