XCOM General - /xcg/

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Post yfw
>Turns to Extract: 1

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>>148399936
First for snek.

any one have vids of the LW Lasers mod in action?

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>>148400112
>MFW

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Fucking Julian would be a better Avenger pilot than you Bradford

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EXALT
X
A
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I'm giving up liberating earth for a life of piracy, lads. Wish me luck.

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>>148400928
EXALT Highwayman when?

>>148401236

>All that is known of Dismas is that he is the Good Thief crucified with Christ on Calvary. The other thief is known as Gestas. A completely unsubstantiated myth from the Arabic Gospel of the Infancy that enjoyed great popularity in the West during the Middle Ages had two thieves who held up the Holy Family on the way to Egypt. Dismas bought off Gestas with forty drachmas to leave them unmolested, whereupon the Infant predicted that they would be crucified with Him in Jerusalem, and that Dismas would accompany Him to Paradise. His feast day is March 25th.

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>>148398158

Titanfall body armor
Helmet is Capnbub's kevlar helmet
face mask and the little light and laser pointer are https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=636400624&searchtext=modular

His helmets are pretty good and you can use the laser pointer, light and in some cases the visor or UV eye-piece type things on any number of helmets. The Laser and light will fit almost every helmet, the visor/UV/Heads up displays work on some, not on others.

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>>148401503

Should I buy the DLC for Xcom 2? Will it add more story content or will it just give me cool stuff like new classes and customization?

Should I buy it after I beat Xcom 2 or just install it whenever during the story?

>>148402403
I'll go list by list then

>Anarchy's Children
Purely cosmetic DLC. Usefulness debated on, but it does add a lot more stuff.

>Alien Hunters
Challenge DLC. New weapons, new story mission, as well as three new aliens whose sole goal is to make your life as miserable as possible(and they usually succeed).

>Shen's Last Gift
New story mission, as well as an entirely new robot class, with it's own unique weapons, abilities, etc.

I'd just get the reinforcement pack for all three. If you change your mind mid campaign, and buy one of the DLCs which have a story mission, you won't get the chance to run through them(but still get the content)

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Was held up last night. But. Ill try to write up the new modlist tonight.

Also beep boop

>>148402779

I'm actually in the middle of the campaign. It was after you find the Advent from the Codex. Is it too late to add the DLC for story? I want to play the missions chronologically if I can, or at least during the whole story.

>>148403562
>Is it too late to add the DLC for story?
Absolutely, it is. You have to start a fresh campaign with the DLC enabled in order to get their unique missions.

>>148403562
You'll get a prompt for the content, but the missions won't appear iirc

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>tfw one of the Rookies that helped you defend the shanty town died a turn before the end

>>148399936
So, I just upgraded from a 5-year old toaster laptop to a fullscale i7 gaming desktop, /xcg/. Installing X2 now, super looking forward to a new campaign with brilliant and bright visuals.

Here's the question though, /xcg/: do I start a new campaign or do I finish the one I was playing on my toaster? and does anyone want mission recaps?

>>148403827
>>148403836

That really sucks. I guess I won't be buying the DLC then.

To be honest what prompted me to look for DLC was because I was looking for cosmetics

>>148404669
Workshop nigga

>>148400674
JOSH BIRK A SHIT

>>148395506
I forgot they were a thing. Mind showing us your EXALT-boss?

>tfw no STAG equipment mod
>tfw no SR4 ports

>>148405404
KINZIE A SHIT

>great war theme'd xcom

I'd fucking buy it. Wouldn't even need to change any of the classes.

>>148408676
The weapons would be nice a least

>MP18
>Martini Henry
>Springfield M1903
>Lee Enfield MK III SMLE
>Winchester M1895
>Browning Automatic Rifle Madsen MG

>>148408998

Im thinking about how swag as shit it would be

>Using mustard gas on the ayylmaos
>Trench coats and gas masks
>Xcom asthetic perfectly with trenches on the western front, deserts in africa, eastern europe hellholes

>>148409142
I'm sure some modders would ride on the BF1 trend when it releases and port the stuff over into XCOM 2.

There's already a few people working on porting BF3 and BF4 guns

Also,
>that British scout cape

>>148409142
Melee weapons would be ubiquitous.

>Bayonets
>Sharpened shovels
>Spiked clubs
>Trench knives

bagels when

>>148411948
Never. Long War sucked the soul out of him.

>>148411970
:^(

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>>148403552
Welcome back

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I like how this entire thing sounds:

>>148388932

Reverse-engineering Ayy tech with magic really can go anywhere: You start out slow with your reaction times to respond to the alien threat and limited to one or two castles in your kingdom but, as you recover more Elerium/Alloys/MELD you get to the point were time and space are on your side as you can get (and aid) to the other kingdoms with more and more quicker means. And you will need to help them and eventually arm them as well because the aliens will eventually escalate the invasion and you will be hard pressed to contain it all from your kingdom alone.

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Pistols are Useful.

>All these casuals using Grimy's Loot
Absolutely disconcerting

Cyclops mod.

>>148413670
Never change

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>>148413670
I've been working on some concept art for it, actually. What do you think?

>>148411298

>Field medic to treat chemical weapon wounnds
>Stormtrooper to draw fire and nade targets
>Sapper/heavy that carries a mortar kit and can blow open walls/fortifications
>Rifleman, can be a pointman or a sniper
>Radio engineer, calls in support
>Gunner lugs around a machine gun that can be set up prone or on low cover

all the possibilities.

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>>148414138

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>>148414974

>>148404080
i always want mission recaps, anon

>>148404080
seconded.

>>148415291
Im with this guy you better fill me in on the sweet gossip going on in your squad

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>>148415205

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Now this is some magnificent stuff

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>>148415380

It brings back some memories.

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>>148415371

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>>148415767
I don't know which one is worse

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>>148415840

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>>148416084

LW is still 'worse' by a long shot.

>>148416436
did you died?

>>148416436
Both are LW though you meme.

Having 20 ayys activated in furies, where you have no cover is breddy bad

>>148416314
You win For now!

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>>148415840

>>148416841
Hey friend

>>148416659

Don't the destroyed house has some nice cover? You can make a nice fire base from there.

>>148417030
Not enough for the whole squad I think.. I don't know, it's been a year, I forgot the map

>>148417070

The snipers don't need that much cover so there is usually more than enough to handle the first few patrols.

did they change/fix/buff guardian overwatch?
im getting more and more empty magazine overwatches

also after 300 hours of xcom2 i discovered how great is it to pop concealment with specialists

>aid protocol x2 on 2 specs
>start with a nade or whathaveyou

the threat assesment lasts your turn and aylums turn too, so in the case of another pod walking in, you will get shots at them

another thing about guardian, it doesnt trigger from enemies throwing nades

>>148420836
>did they change/fix/buff guardian overwatch?
unchanged since release

>another thing about guardian, it doesnt trigger from enemies throwing nades
That's because it doesn't have covering fire.

>old Hidden Potential mod is dead
>LW Toolbox is apparently broken
Mods were totally not a mistake, you guys.

What are some good SPARK customization mods /xcg/?

>>148422215
the CABAL voice pack

>>148420949
Aid Protocol now grants the target a Covering Fire Overwatch shot, but the Aid Protocol cooldown is increased by 1 turn

it doesn trigger that one either

Guys, seriously, is there not a way to change the "Shibobi" class name in the LW perk mod? Would this be possible by editing an .ini file?

Guys

>>148421242
>LW Toolbox is apparently broken
Explain

>>148416314
Commander, we're reaching critical levels of smug anime girls here. We're going to have to move faster next time if we want to counter them!

>no one has updated Ufopaedia in a month

Is it dead

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>>148423374
>smug

Where is the mod that removes Gatecrasher from the game.

Quick Start doesn't work

>>148425976
Play with the tutorial on

>>148423101
Comments are flooded with people saying that their soldiers lose stats (as in, go from 75 to 70 aim on promotion, as far as I understand). No idea if it's legit though, guess I'll find out soon enough.

>>148422443
>Shibobi
PROFESSIONAL
MODDING
TEAM

>re-watching bagel's I/I series
>completely forgot about the intro
So is there a webm of that with sound anywhere? Either the S1/S2 or S3 version is ok.

>these EU T1 leggings

So slick.
Truly best legs option.

Do aim penalties still apply to overwatch when ambushing with only a phantom being concealed? Not sure how that works.

Came back after months to play some XCOM2 and it's still buggy but not only that, patches have ruined essential mods that should be a part of the base game! Number one on the list is stop wasting my time which is so much better than firaxis shitty attempt with zip mode.

Frames are better but the pauses are still there and so immersion breaking. With zip mode on it still has ayys getting shot> thinking about it for who knows how long > then finally dying from said shot. Whoever thinks the game needs that shit in firaxis is a full blown scumbag,

Does anyone else have their dropship debreifing act as if you press CAPSLOCK almost immediately?

I'm not pressing it so I wonder if there's a mod doing it.

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Can I ini edit zip mode? Fuckers keep lagging after kills or when they kill me.

>>148428272

Stop wasting my time works perfectly fine with zip mode you autist.

>>148428618
The latest patch broke it though,

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>>148428618

Oh wait nevermind, it doesn't kek.

XCOM2 is dead, modding is dead. Cheers firaxis for breaking essential mods with your "patch".

>>148428697
Where you getting that shit from?

Is XCOM2 ever going to be properly patched?

>>148429364
>implying
magnificent design my friend, both game and engine related

>>148428861

BlueRaja [developer] 8 Jul @ 1:44am
It seems to be broken by the latest patch. I plan to look into it soon.

>>148429447
The only thing that's been "broken" are MECs doing very fast 180° turns while shooting, it's only an animation and nothing regarding the soldiers or skyranger felt off

>>148429573
The mod doesn't work though there is still lags when enemies are killed. It's bullshit that this is acceptable and firaxis should be fired..

Do you guys like the new DLC? Does it help against the Alien Rulers?

>>148429776

Yes, yes.

>>148429776
Yes
Kinda.

>>148429659

Is this your first game with a modding community or something? Patches and updates always break mods on every game with mods.

>>148429776
Yes.

>>148429776
I don't really like the SPARK class because it's not very customizable, but one ability tree does work against the Rulers.

>Install A Better Advent
>instantly hate life

How can anyone enjoy this shit

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>>148433371
>getting buttfucked in the pussy isn't fun

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So do you take low percentage shots first knowing you've got a more reliable one to back you up, or do you take your highest chances first so you don't waste actions?

>>148433623
>taking anything less than a 100% shot

>>148433640
>not just breaking LOS

>>148434749
>breaking LOS on xcom 2
never. Walls are made of glass m8

>>148433371
Yea, I do. I have 600 hours or so sunk into XCOM EW thanks to Long Dong, who's magnificence is still unrivaled. ABA tries, and does step up the vanilla game, but it just simply will not and cannot match the magnificence of long war. This is mostly due to the creator actually being a seemingly great guy with some semblance of balance!

Just to elaborate on what I mean, thanks to the expanded long dong camera, you could scan the map preemptively for objectives, and more importantly, meld! It was a huge tactic and was very relied on to have a steady supply of the stuff. JL eventually pushed out a patch for it, but said that in return he increased the meld timers. Want to know by how much?

He changed one of the numbers in the meld timer calculation formula from 1.5 to 1.55. The math was done, and this averaged out to add one turn to the meld timer per five missions.

>>148433623

Well it depends on a lot of things, like if you want to remove the overwatch from some Advent, or you want to enrage a berserker, or you need to remove supression, or there's something like an archon or a muton centurion or something that you want to kill asap, in those cases usually i take the best shot i can take first.

But when it's just a random firefight against typical advent, i usually just take the low percentage shots first, then the good ones, and i leave soldiers with guaranteed to hit abilities last, so things like psi and grenadiers.

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>it's a "sectoid kills half of your squad because rookeis can't hit a fucking flanked barn door"

So. where the fuck is Vahlen?

>>148435581
Somewhere Deep.

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>>148400112
>no face
>only raw rage

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>>148435581

She's making lobstermen rulers

>>148436901
>think about this
>i remember she made the current rulers
VAAAAHLEEEEEEN
i need her sexy german accent though

>>148436901
I think you mean Overspawn rulers

>>148436901

>SHOCKING INTERVIEW WITH XCOM SCIENTIST
>So Bradford tell us we have to finish plasma weapons, rookies dying left and right and we just realized... We researched the wrong thing, we made Alien rulers instead!

xcom 2fag here

what does the break los meme mean in the context of ew/eu gameplay

>>148438740
It means breaking los, rookie.
Ayys can't shoot what they can't see. Usually.

>>148415291
>>148415342
>>148415368
Alright, anons, once I get it installed (my network here is fucking shit) and modded up, I'll start hitting you guys up with the squad and some missions. I'm a scrubking, so it'll be a Commander campaign probably.

>>148428607
Fuck I really want a hazmat suit now.

Didn't Ananda Gupta work on XCOM? What happened to him? He didn't work on X2 or something?

>>148423469
I wondered the same thing so I did some investigation last week. With the release of xcom2, ufopaedia got way more visits then there servers could handle (apparently in combination with spam attacks) so for a bit, even the xcom pages were down. They eventually managed to acquire new servers and are now stable, but there is confusion currently in leadership and management. While the site was being spammed to death they turned off the sign up function that allowed people to create an account and modify the pages (like a normal wiki). The are currently trying to sort things out, get orgnaized, and get the user sign up function back up and running.

I'm currently monitoring the relevant forum thread and will let people know when user signups are once again allowed. Hopefully the X2 page can get up to speed with where the other wiki pages are shortly after.

tl;dr
No, just recovering from XCOM2 release chaos

And the forum site and relevant thread: http://www.strategycore.co.uk/forums/topic/11357-allow-site-sign-ups/

>>148427378
Yes, you will have normal overwatch once the squad is revealed the first time.

>>148439762
>spam attacks
Who the fuck would do this?

>>148428406
I still have to press CAPSLOCK to get it to freeze everything till its done loading in the post mission flight.

>>148439630
He was the lead for Enemy Within, but is currently no longer on the XCOM team. I don't know if he still works for Firaxis.

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>WW1 XCOM
>Everyone gets a fucking bolt action and the occasional shotgun and machine gun
>Research gives you flamers, SMGs, anti-tank rocket guns

>>148439920
ADVENT obviously. I solid wiki could easily lead to sizable increase rate in the success rate and skill of XCOM commanders.

Hell if I know

>>148440564
>WW1 XCOM
>two gigantic trenches
>you spam overwatch for a few hundred turns until one alien snaps and runs into your shots

sounds magnificent

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>>148442545

Is it possible to add Ruler Reactions to selected regular enemies?

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>>148443283
why would you do that
>pic related

>>148443478
Well, I'm spitballing ideas for mods, and remembered that Dark Events exists

The one I got in the end was one random alien in each mission that month would be given ruler reactions. No indication will be given to the player as to which alien it is

>>148443283
Vade retro satana

>>148429659
>Firaxis should make sure that their game is 100% compatible with every mod ever released
>Consequently, Firaxis never patches or updates anything ever again

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>>148436481

Sweet jesus thats triggering

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JAKE
JAAAAAKE

>>148440564
>WWII XCOM
>aliens invade during the war
>play as either Allies or Axis
>shoot down ufos and stop abductions and terror missions over owned and neighboring countries
>enemy human team will also shoot down ufos, intercept your skyrangers, research ayy tech, and sabatoge your progress
>they will also occasionally show up on your missions

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>>148436481

>>148437403
It's definitely not German.

>>148443875
You magnificent bastard I READ YOUR BOOK.

>>148449201
This is a really cool idea on paper but would probably end up in a clusterfuck in execution or something like Silent Storm where the endgame is just far less interesting than the pure WW2 part

The Axis/Allies part would have to be pretty indepth or it'd just be irrelevant like Xenonauts

I'd still like drawing from various units in the war and sides though, German and American winter uniforms are p neat

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>>148436481

>>148449568
I'm pretty sure she's Swiss, but she could be Belgian or Austrian.

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>>148436481
Every single time.

>>148449568
>>148449986
She is most definitely german.

Lily even references that she finds notes half scribbled in german and the name 'Vahlen' itself originates from Germany.

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>>148450701
We don't know what she is. Her accent places her somewhere on the border of Germany and France, and she doesn't speak German regularly. Even her notes are in "Broken German."

Its clear she's filling the German scientist stereotype, not doubt that was Firaxis' intention. But when you dig into the details it becomes a little bit confusing.

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>>148443283
>>148443875

It's definitively possible. I'm a bit code illiterate so i can't be of much help, but from what i can gather, what makes the rulers act like they do is basically an ability called "AlienRulerActionSystem"

My best advise is that you go to steamapps\common\XCOM 2\XComGame\DLC\DLC_2\Script and open the file there with notepad++, at first it'll look like junk that you can't open with notepad, but fret not, scroll down and you'll start seeing the usual .uc code, or you can just search for the ability i mentioned above to find it.

Or search for something like "ViperKing" to get to his character template.

In theory it might be possible to just slap that ability on lancers and have them go rules of nature on your ass.

>>148449978
>Be interested in playing both SSs
>Remember that both games involve themselves with the fucking diselpunk power armor
goddammit, I want to be a partisan in one game; and a 50s special ops team in the other.

>>148451712
there's a mod to remove them in both games

it makes the later missions really hard though because they were balanced around being invincible

>>148450929
>Broken German
Vahlen is actually an illiterate German, she's just a psycho dominatrix who joined xcom to get her torture going. The other scientists in the OG base did all the science and no one dared confront her about this for obvious reasons.

>>148452535
>implying anyone could survive in the x-com project and be incompetent
Don't you meme me about Bradford's tactical commanding either, its not his fault he isn't the literal god the commander is.

>>148451712
>>148452517
The problem I always had with SS is that I just did not have the patience to wait for each enemy to move. Scaling maps with just six soldiers to murder the remaining enemies was a pain, too

>>148451069
I'll try doing that, thanks Anon

I'll probably just end up handing that ability over to berserkers and restricting their actions during your turn to be only movement, to simulate berserker ping pong from X1

>>148452932
>implying anyone could survive in the x-com project and be incompetent
>implying your shitty corporal who keeps missing his flanks won't be the last man standing when the mission turns to shit

>>148454651
>Going for flank shots
>They die because now they are closest to all those blood thirsty ayys they just failed to thin out
Yeah it can happen, but usually the karma factor is pretty harsh in xcom. People who don't get kills die. Unless you're talking about snipers.

So, I've just finished my playthrough with increased enemy squads, escalation classes only, 8 squad size and a little selection of mods for maps/gameplay changes to make the game a little bit more open.

And now that Long War has come back to the forefront and all the preplanned DLC is released, I have the choice of staying with Escalation classes or switching over to the Long War Classes + a ton of cool new shit.

So, the LW classes any good?

>>148455204
I'm having fun with them

>>148455263

>fun

You make a pretty good sell.

>>148455351
I don't know what else to tell you, everyone is different.
It's nice to get powerful abilities like Phantom from the get go.

>>148455536

I was serious, 'fun' is a pretty good selling point.

In many ways the LW classes kind of supercede the Escalation classes in their original purpose and general designs anyway.

>>148455687
That's what I thought.
I started a new campaign and disabled the Escalation classes for that very reason.

>>148407509
I have a few screenshots.

Here's EXALT-Boss and Zimos watching the Speaker's latest broadcast Monica Hughes talking about STAG.

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>>148455990
Fuck.

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>>148456227
Better view.

Last one I'll post, I don't wanna get screamed at

>>148456227
>>148457106
Your EXALT-Boss is pretty fucking schway. What gang style are you using?

>>148456227
>>148457106
EXALT boss seems like he's pretty tired of working with the low life thugs around him.

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>>148457194
I was using a mix of Morningstar, Saints, and Clubbers. When STAG showed up I went all SWAT.

I like to think of STAG as post-invasion XCOM, where XCOM succeeds in defending Earth.

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>>148456227
>>148457106
Looks pretty [STATIC] senpai

Whats more important on Legend early on, engineers or scientists?

>Have 2 engineers and 1 scientist
>First floor is power relay, Awc, gorilla tactics school

Engineer would boost my ability to excavate which equals more supplies so i can buy nicer things. Though a scientist would help reduce the cost of magnetic weapons, but I also dont have a lab to staff them in yet. Im guessing engineer ->Lab on the second floor would be most effective

>>148457883
>engineers
definitely engineers. You need to clear out your base so you can keep contacting new regions and get the AWC and Foundry up.

Man do you know if it'd be possible to replace the default assault rifle sounds (which a lot of modded weapons/kitbashes) use?

The gunfire sounds are terrible for that particular weapon, all the other conventional weapons sound great, but that one is still awful.

>>148458282

Yeah, a tutorial on how to replace sounds and stuff comes with the SDK.

>>148458504

Guess I better start downloading.

>>148458005

Scientists are just hot ass. I thought about what it would be like to build a lab the first month and realized even with faster techs you won't have the resources still to even build the shit you would unlock faster. Hopefully the expansion gives them a bonus staffing of some kind.

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>>148399936

So guys, I have some tweaks to weapon tiers, if you'd care to give me your thoughts.

Mag Weapons
>+1 Damage over ballistics
>Has a chance to shred armor on grazes or completely bypass armor entirely with a hit

Pulse Lasers
>+1 Damage over previous tier
>Higher base accuracy and Critical strike chance

Plasma (Beam)
>+1 damage over previous tier
>Better in all categories of accuracy, critical chance and confers additional critical damage, but is much more expensive

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>>148458582

That's the spirit. It's pretty indepth too.

>>148458732
Is this in the context of vanilla balance?

>>148458982

Well yeah, but I was considering messing around with the hex code and .ini to make it happen.

>>148458504
If that's the case how come half the weapons in the CV weapons pack are using the vanilla shit.

tfw decent G36 and M249 mods never

>>148459348
Just asking because balance doens't exist in a vacuum. Honestly these changes would make the game much more difficult. You have to research an entire extra tier, and now mag weapons are not as good, making the early game (usually the most difficult part) tougher.

>>148459390

laziness? nobody's made appropriate alternatives?

i've considered doing it, until i just realised that i'd rather just use shit people made up then have to go through the effort of designing my own sounds.

on the topic of gunfire, what fucking tard at Firaxis listened to the default AR sounds and said 'yep, sounds nice'

>>148459571
Probably the same guy who thought Plated looked good.
Or AC's madmax rejects looked good
Or Ruler's were fair and balanced
Or giving every weapon the environment destructibility of a railgun was fine

>>148459895
>Or giving every weapon the environment destructibility of a railgun was fine
Its the same way in X1.

>>148459571

Well, there are 3 reasons i can think of.

They don't know how to do it, and are either too lazy, or too "scared"(they might think it's more complicated than it actually is) to bother to learn.

They are lazy.

Or they think it's fine as it is, they might actually like the default sounds.

>>148459895
JAAAAAAAKE

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Does anyone else get the bug in long war where during suppression the shooter faces off angle pointing in the wrong direction, like they can only face 90 degree angles?

I can't find anything at all on this and it's bugging me a lot.

>>148460275
It happens all the time. There is no fix.

>>148439762
That's good.

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>>148460539
At least now I know.

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>it's a "flashbanged pectoid blindly fires and crits your best soldier" episode

>>148460828
>It's a X2 rolling system make low aim shots more lethal episode
I'm done with my vanilla runs for now, so no way am I going back to that.

>>148460828

>flashbanging sectoids
>ever
>in current year

>>148461053
>not flashbanging a sectoid
>not insta-killing the zombie
>not removing the overwatch on nearby advent troopers/captains
>not denying the pectoid its psionic abilities for 2 turns
>not applying an aim, will, and movement penalty although the aim penalty is shit and does >>148460828 shit like this.
Why wouldn't you use a flashbang early game?

>>148461480

Because i'd rather let the sectoid waste his turn trying to use his useless psi abilities than having him crit all my troops.

>Piratez
>March 2604
>First Star Gods sighting
>Retaliation mission
Wew. Wonder if they'll find my base.At least I managed to bag a couple from a fighter.

>>148461807
Just shoot down the scouting fighters and/or gunships.

They have the same ships as everyone else. (which seems weird to me)

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>>148460275

>>148462070
Fuck that map

>>148462040
I actually have next to no interception capability. So many ships keep landing it hardly seems necessary.

>>148462561
You really should get some. Some ships/ some ships on specific missions never land. Shooting down craft that scout for retaliation missions prevent them from finding your base. They don't find your base, no base defense.

>have two sharpshooters
>have AWC
>one gets rapid fire
>one gets rupture
Bless the commander!

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>>148462804
I really should, but I've been lazy. Besides, I'm more worried about having to grind out 500*50 elerium than mere base defense. Or however long it takes to find a couple of cardinals so I can do more research.

>>148462070
>exalt missions
>on this map
Fucking hell on Earth. Fuck that.

First campaign with the dlcs. Ironman is a terrible idea, right?

>>148465310
Just wait till you have mag weapons

>>148465310
Been having some glsrunning==1 error lately and it's been corrupting all my ironman campaigns. Recommend having a copy of your ironman save as backup, a bronzeman campaign, or just not going ironman until they find the issue behind it.

>stock on a gunner with shredder upgrade

my dick

Almost as good as the free reloads on a sniper.

Big problem with getting Sparks later on - they are fucking worthless

Legendary with ABA++ and not created equal rookies and I have fielded two, both dying in their very first mission. Can't hit for shit, can't take cover, two measily armor.

And the best thing: I'll have to double check but I swear they have as much (as little) HP as one of my regular soldiers without the ability to take cover (and blast padding in LW2 means you can have a soldier with 2 armor to boot!)

Were they better in vanilla?

>>148466539
They drop off a bit in usefullness in late game in Vanilla too.

Have you tried "Metal Over Flesh: Upgradeable SPARKs"?
It's a mod that adds a bunch of upgrades in the proving grounds for them.

http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=720053228

Is there a way to remove the aim penalty for squad-sight? I was willing to give the concept a shot, but I just don't think it makes sense.
The concept and timers or just punishment for taking too much time in general already smacks snipers really hard. That and the fact their entire job is shooting people, there is literally nothing else the can or should be doing. They aren't the god class they were in X1, and I think giving them back squad-sight wouldn't do anything but push them more towards "good" instead of just "ok."

>>148466863

I do have it, I just haven't unlocked the upgrades yet but thanks for reminding me about it.

I'd think if you could add weapon mods for them (I am pretty sure there's a mod for that, too) then it'd solve their worthlessness - slap a superior scope and it's 15 or 20 bonus aim, so even some dogshit low 70s would become 85s-90s.

>>148467030
oh yeah.
I'm running GrimysLootMod and Mod Everything.

i can slap all kinds of shit onto their weapon and chassis.

+aim is a huge improvement

>>148466902

to be honest i've found the lubrication sniper class far more interesting than the sharpshooter class ever was

no squadsight without setting up the previous turn, but capable of moving and firing non-squadsight shots, with a focus on selective overwatch or high damage abilities

gunslingers are pretty useful and somewhat fill in the 'infantry' role that isn't present in vanilla X2, but they feel like two entirely different classes rather than a single class with different specialization

>>148466902
I'm digging the Sharpshooter in the LW Perk pack.
Snapshot is on the first rank upgrade and rather than negating your aim on the second shot, it negates your aim on your squad sight range.

Once you go beyond 5 tiles squadsight you get severe aim penalties.
Turns the Sharpshooter into a DM or some such, they can trundle along with your squad while dishing out accurate, high powered fire.

>>148466204
Shit. Thanks for the heads-up, will make backups.

>>148467262
>>148467552
I know there's the other classes, I was just reflecting on how I felt the sniper was over-nerfed in the vanilla balance. Before I knew about the prevalence of timers, I thought it might be a reasonable change, not so much afterwards.

I saw the snapshot perk already and thought it looked excellent. The setting up concept from lubrication is cool as well.

>>148467909
the squadsight aim penalty is literally a simple ini tweak if you want to cheat

>>148468273
cool

>>148466902

>Remove cover
>Sniper now has a 95% hit rate on the target with a 40% crit chance at squaddie level


I think specialist is the real issue here. They have to rank up 3-4 times before they go from marginally useful to actually useful. Instead of mech upgrades and then overwatch upgrades they should be alternating. I like the specialists tech gimmick too, wish it had a bit more use though.

>>148466539

>Cant use your mechs as cover
>They cant boost your squad over walls
>Cant run through walls etc

Is there a mod to add the EU characters to XCOM 2? I hate everyone

>>148469056
>>Cant use your mechs as cover
Bulwark
>>Cant run through walls etc
Wrecking Ball

>>148468865
>Sniper now has a 95% hit rate on the target with a 40% crit chance at squaddie level
Those numbers sound super off.

>>148469319
>I hate everyone
Then you get nothing

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>>148469319

just play EW

>>148469348

okay im sorry was just memeing.

>>148470264
>memeing
Yeah you better be sorry filthy memer

>>148472101
>His delicate heart can't handle getting memed on

Git gud, scrub.

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>>148472379
I SAID STOP MEMING

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>>148472459
No

>>148459538

>Honestly these changes would make the game much more difficult. You have to research an entire extra tier, and now mag weapons are not as good

In what sense?

Mag weapons would help early mid game, and counter dark events like extra armor, or when the enemy starts having armor. Lasers ease the transistion into late game.

>>148472882
Vanilla mag weapons have +2 damage. You're tier only is +1. It depends on what kind of percentages these "chances" to ignore/shred have, but if its not very high, then you're just dealing less damage. Also, plenty of enemies don't have armor, or only have one point of armor.

The difference 1 damage is surprisingly huge in xcom, just like giving an enemy even 1 more hp.

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>>148452535
pic related

>>148452535
>she's just a psycho dominatrix who joined xcom to get her torture going
And who do you think recruited her, exactly?

Are the xcom2 long war mods broken or are they kind of balanced.

The squad leader/long war perks seem good but it seems like they start a few classes off a bit too strong so I'm wondering if the later perks don't get retardedly broken.

>>148474365
Now we know how she interrogates them.

>>148475210
My guess is that the aliens that they plan to introduce will be even more broken to compensate.

>>148475390
As long as none of them have ruler reactions, I'm game.

>>148475390
>>148475562
>Implying JL won't abuse the shit out of Ruler Reactions

>implying he won't give aliens with repeated frost bomb + ruler reaction perks

>>148475562

oh anon

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Jeez, that's a big~~ sectopod

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>>148476495
and on the second turn...

Also I learned that frost bombs don't stun sectopods, they thaw out right away but have reduced action points.

>>148476495

Hack it when theres 4-5 droids
Allah ackbar them all surrounding it
cap discharge them all next to the generator

enjoy 50+ damage

>>148475390

I hope they wait for the expansion and then they balance scientists so they arent shit.

>>148479634
Elder's Blessing to this loyal ADVENT trooper, may RNG bless her against those HCOM monsters.

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>when your soldier's name and destination makes the best filename

>>148470000
Quads of truth.

>>148479634
Is this... a rare ?

>>148480303
Kind of. I don't believe its been posted by itself here. I acquired it from another anon who posted their entire snek folder.

>>148480469
Oh yea. I probably downloaded it then
still, saved

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wow what a cinematic view for skulljacking

>>148480303
Pic is from late Feb, so not really. Just old snek. Nothing wrong with old snek though.

>>148481229
I've always wondered about those weird half sectopod half tractor things that you find in facilities and other advent locations. Why don't they come alive and try to road roller your ass?

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>>148480303
Another old, but still good snek pic.

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>encounter Archon King on terror mission
>by dumb luck you realize you had so much stuns and debuffs to take half his health without him doing shit
>he ends up dropping his tortellini all over the place and runs away after taking a total of three(3) moved, all of which were stunted movement
YES. YES. THIS IS FOR LONGWAR FLOATERS YOU FLYING PIECE OF SHIT

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>>148481471
there was that forge or whatever mission where there's literally advent troops being developed and i moved inch to inch to wait if they turn alive
they didnt
that would be way too cool for vanilla xcom2
also god bless hacking

>>148481649
i knew this one

What the fuck is happening in France right now ? Terrorism again ?
ADVENT when ?

>On roof
>guy shoots at me
>misses
>hits the floor under me
>fall down a floor and take damage
>reveal 2 pods at the same time
>enemies immediately get a turn and kill that soldier

Shots doing damage to the environment was a mistake.

>>148481957
>France
Well that sucks. On a creepy note, I was just thinking if they didn't have guns they would probably just cars. Sure feels great to be vindicated...

>>148482209
>making me laugh
>about that
Well, thanks ? I'm still glad we don't have mass guns population though

>>148482209
They did have guns.

>>148482389
oh

>>148482389
It's the Police m8. They are armed
>the driver was
No info among the jew media, i'm keeping myself updated though

>>148482357
It's not like guns are the only way to kill people, Anon.

All this talk about guns and cars made me think about a mod idea though. What about a gun that shoots cars? I guess that goes too far into the Skyrim type of modding, however.

>>148482545
You didn't think that gun control laws magically made people not able to get weapons did you?

>libtard logic

>>148482563
Sounds like GTA

>>148482680
>guns control laws prevent bad guys to have some
No, it just makes it harder to get it.
>having a gun allow you to defend yourself
Yes, probably. I still prefer the idea of having trained professionals having them instead of any random civ
>leftist cuck
No

>>148482680
I don't support gun control, I also don't want to argue gun control on /xcg/l. I was simply speculating on alternatives to guns. Cars are a great alternative. Stop making assumptions, it just stirs shit up.

>>148482687
Let's see how well snek dodges when she gets a car shot at her!

>>148483140
Car
>20-30 damage
>No crit chance
>Close range bonus
>Cannot be Dodged!

>>148483140
Stopthis at once, you're giving the Berserkers ideas.

>>148483350
C-CLOSE RANGE ?
what is the downside of this weapon though ?

>>148483432
There is none. A single car can easily kill 30-50 ayys while wounding another hundred.
You need the skyranger upgrade to me weight limitations

>>148483432
One use per build, similar to Overdrive Serum. Only, you know, it'll actually be useful, unlike OS.

>>148483432

Using it costs three turns.

>>148482557
>http://time.com/4407268/nice-attack-france-truck-bastille-day/
>The Nice region’s president said at least 60 people were killed in the chaos and that the truck was loaded with arms and grenades, according to the Associated Press.
>The Associated Press quoted Wassim Bouhlel, a Nice native, as saying that after slamming into the crowd, the truck driver emerged with a gun and started shooting.

>>148483432
one use per build and takes up 80% of your skyranger seats

>>148483808

>loaded with arms and grenades

If he knew he was going on a road rage, why not just go full GLA and fill it with explosives.

He's either dumb or this was a larger attack gone sour.

>>148483808
>foreign media is giving me more info than actual national one
wew. Yea i saw this right now on "news this second" twitter

>early Long Dong terror mission
>taking smokes instead of flashbangs
How fucked am i?

>>148483936
He probably wasn't expecting to get shot the minute he got out of the truck. Remember how long it took for the frogs to get their shit together in the last two attacks? This is like the Germans during WWI after they walked over the French in the Franco-Prussian war.

>>148483936
>explosives
Acquiring explosives larger then hand grenades can get you tracked down.

>larger attack gone sour.
Death count already hit around 70.

>>148484162
Smokes are good in long dong. I would prefer flashes early game, but you can make it work. Just don't get mobbed by lids and zombies.

>Truck drove through crowd for more than one mile
sucks

>>148485876
>That face
ADVENT shilling at maximum power today it seems.

>>148486047
>ADVENT shilling
Take a closer look.

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>mfw team edgey

>>148486109
More like team Yellow Jackets.They look pretty good though.

>>148485876
That went from cute and waifu-worthy to fucking creepy way faster than I expected. Well done, anon.

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CMON YOU FUCKS,IM NOT AFRAID!

>>148484617

Didnt stop for bullets shot at it by the police

clearly we need to arm everyone with rocket launchers.

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Beagles?

>>148486305

Rocket launcher/Nades and one turn their ass.

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>>148486305
TAKE THESE 2 SHOTS PER SOLDIER WITH A SQUAD OF 5

>>148486239
Yeah not mine, but honestly the concept execution is 10/10. I didn't even get it the first time I saw it. One of my favorite X2 fan artpieces.

>>148486305
As long as you have shotguns.

>>148486368
A rifle would have worked fine. Actually pistols would have worked with proper positioning.

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>>148486232
Bees?

>>148486558
you do realize <85% shots will always miss, right?

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some reason my Sparks abilities all duplicated.

>>148486585

Or deport muslims.

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>>148486558
>>148486765
nah they don't

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>>148486585

Nothing is better than the newfoundland mission with like 3 assaults with CQC.

>>148486809
Way too late.

>>148486908
Do you remember the basics CQC? Too bad its brokenly good in X2.

>>148486997
>entire group shot down by overwatched CQC shotgun with extra ammo
>promotion earned

>>148486782
mods

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>>148486616

Candy?

>>148486814
RIP Scout,you did a lot in your second mission

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>>148487534
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All memes aside, let's say you're the commander of XCOM and you've just overthrown ADVENT. You've taken back control of at least a good section of the planet. Which part is your choice.

The problem is, you have a large number of varying types of aliens and ADVENT troops that have either laid down arms and surrendered or have more or less stopped functioning, depending on type.

What do you do with all of them, now that the Ethereals have been killed off?

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>>148487710
A nameless engineer also died

>>148487831
XCom Burgers.

>>148487831
Slave them like my ancestors would have wanted

>>148487710
seeing this stuff makes me rememberj ust how like blue XCOM was compared to XCOM2

>>148487831
That's not really up for XCOM to decide. At this point you're pretty much turning over control of the prisoners of war over to the countries who were funding your project.

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>>148487876

>>148487831
Some may be totally functionless without the supreme mastermind telling them what to do. Repurposing them to help rebuild might be a sound strategy.

>>148488165
There effectively are no countries anymore, anon. XCOM 2. Any kind of government is at best entirely provisional and under your command.

>>148488239
There are still countries, or at the very least there will most certainly be countries in the general regions where they were once formed. So I would suppose the most logical action would be to simply detain them until said countries got their legal structures back in place.

>>148487831
ADVENT can almost certainly be rehabilitated as workers or something. As they're likely incomplete minds, this may be all they are good for, so we'll give them a good existence helping humanity rebuild itself.

As for the ayylmaos, I probably imprison them, interrogate them for all they know about the greater Ethereal empire, and use whatever technological/scientific secrets they can share with me to prepare for the inevitable Ethereal retaliation from the stars (since it is made very very clear that they have an interstellar empire, so we're not off the hook just yet). If possible, I will recover any Ethereal bodies/capsules from the ocean floor and use them as bargaining chips/weapons during the next invasion.

Finally, though you didn't ask, I'd be putting mankind back on a wartime footing. The fight's not over, not until mankind is secure amongst the stars. XCOM will take the skies in defense of Earth. Vigilo Confido.

>>148487831
I'd probably go by what the public/the troops themselves think.

If I had to decide though myself? I know for sure that the ADVENT troops know that they're genetic monstrosities, and probably aren't too keen about that. Those who aren't willing to kill themselves, probably push them to be at the front of the rebuilding. As for the ayy's, maybe pull a Bureau and let them free after they provide assistance. All depends on if they're actually on Bureau tier(aka we're enslaved), or they're full on fuck you mode.

>>148487831

I start rounding up large groups of all alien species immediately to be put under 24/7 surveillance and to be researched.

More dangerous aliens are studied through dissection and more extreme methods to quickly determine if they are still a threat.

Any aliens where no definitive change in their behavior can be identified are immediately placed on a bounty boards and marked for extinction. Any aliens on this board can be killed by anyone, anywhere, in pretty much any way. Submitted evidence of the death of such specimens can be turned in for a flat reward.

Things like Berzerkers, lids, floaters, and gatekeepers would probably immediately go on the list. Rewards for killed lids would be higher then anything else.

The other aliens future would be more dependent on the outcome of the next couple weeks of research.

If ADVENT human hybrids could be rehabilitated, you would need to take a very strong stance in one direction. If they appeared to be intelligent and rational, keeping them alive but labeling them as 2nd class citizens would just lead to a future conflict. Hopefully I could shuffle the majority off to unoccupied space for eduaction and training, putting off attempts of immediate re-integration into society.

On the other hand they could be rounded up and killed, but that could also immediately lead to conflict if work gets out.
If they are not capable of independent thought, they would be exterminated.

>>148399936
How the fuck am I supposed to deal with alien rulers /xcg/? I disabled the mission because I got the story the first time through and now every time the viper king shows up I just have to accept half my squad getting killed. I'm still on conventional weapons and armor and I'm rushing mag weapons.

>>148489294
Turn on the dlc. It spawns the story mission, but you don't have to go on it. If you don't go to the mission, the rulers never spawn.

>>148489405
>>148489294
Wait, seriously, if the DLC is off you just randomly get the rulers anyway?

That almost sounds more fun

>>148489021
ADVENT hybrids are definitely the biggest political problem you can encounter

Kill them all? Conflict in doing that, from both them and possibly humans. Less workforce too for the rebuild.

Force them to work? Conflict from humans, there'll be severe abuse shoved towards them, and generally it'll tend to be a shitshow on both sides. I wouldn't be surprised to hear events like an ADVENT trooper camp getting razed by their human colleagues, and the next ADVENT camp over smuggling in some kind of weapons to defend themselves.

Rehabilitate? Would humans be willing to accept them back in the first place? Where would they find themselves in society if they can be rehabilitated?

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This is map is good if you destroy that front wall near spawn

>>148489021
>Without any kind of command, faceless in deep cover stay in deep cover for the rest of their lives.
>They marry, raise families, and hold jobs.
>They get distressed when, for some reason, they can't have children.
>They stay in infiltration mode until an injury or a medical screen outs them
>And then they kill everyone around them.

I can see this being a huge problem.

>>148489660
That's the trouble with this kind of thing. You have to work up enough fury and hatred to get people to rebel, but then you either have to completely cull the overthrown class or find some kind of way to get rid of that hatred and re-integrate them.

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>ABA++
>LW Perk Pack
>LW Laser
>LW Toolbox
>Maps by Vozati
>More Maps pack

Is this the closest one can come to a pseudo-LW for XCOM 2? I want a shitton of enemies per map like LW to the point I'm not even sure ABA++ will meet it

>>148412878
I'm not storyposter

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Stream is Live

>>148489660
Yeah ADVENT is a big question mark and the most delicate. Technically if they can't reproduce, that would solve the entire problem.

>>148490003
Wow I didn't even think of Faceless.

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Beagle Activity!

>>148490043

That's pussy shit, are you even getting all the OP ayys and the more sectopods and gatekeepers mods? Come on anon, you're already cheating with the OP perk pack so you need to balance it out.

>>148490043

Not really. You are just playing a little bit different XCOM 2 with all it's stupid shit still in it.

>>148490043
Believe me it does

When your reinforcements starts consisting of 8 lids it sure fucking does meet it

Grab some kind of squad expansion mod, I don't think you'll last otherwise