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Heroes of the Storm General - /hotsg/

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Lore edition

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-8g_qxJvT7g

>What's new?
http://us.battle.net/heroes/en/blog/20164442/heroes-of-the-storm-patch-notes-july-12-2016-7-12-2016


Gul'dan, Auriel and a bunch of new skins:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yU2WGor6p_0 [Embed]

>Where do I find you Sonya-loving faggots?
/join /vg/

>Do you have a discord?
https://discord.gg/0u3cyKnzMnnU2wjN

>What hero should I buy?
Play all the heroes on free rotation and see what types you like. Don't buy heroes just to get into Ranked. It's not worth it.

>Links nobody visits anyway
Official Site: http://us.battle.net/heroes/en
General News: http://www.heroesnexus.com
Tips & Tricks: http://heroesofthestorm.github.io/tips
Hero Rankings and Statistics: https://www.hotslogs.com/Default
Talent Calculator: http://www.heroesfire.com/hots/talent-calculator
All of the hero voice lines: http://rpboyer15.github.io/sounds-of-the-storm


Old Thread: >>148161949
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Where the FUCK is Maiev????
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https://www.strawpoll.me/10705972
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Reminder of reddit karma-whoring sell-out rats: https://www.reddit.com/r/heroesofthestorm/comments/4mh256/theres_a_guy_on_4chan_who_has_accurately_leaked/

https://www.reddit.com/user/SSJ5Gogetenks
>ponyfucker

They are in this thread RIGHT NOW!
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How are you guys liking the patch?
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>>148369918
Gul'dan is fun as fuck, devour the frail makes his W real nasty. I think the minion buffs is ok, it doesnt change the game that much but makes opening a lane to the core more impacting to the game.

Good patch overall.
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>>148370156
No Butcher buffs/10

Just make his chain ult 4 seconds again and he'll be golden
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>>148369918
pretty good.
guldan is fucking great, it doesnt feel op or underpower, he is just right, if you are good your going to do tons of damage, if you suck your gonna be destroyed.
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>>148370332
>Butcher, Kerrigan, Murky, Gazlowe and Nova will never ever be legitimately viable
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>>148369918
Gul'dan OP as expected
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>>148370431
Murky is fine as is.
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>nearly 100k hero damage on Nazeebo

Is this as busted as I think it is?
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>>148370545
Far too much of a one-trick pony with the Octo combo, and his talents suck ass as far as diversity goes. Said one trick he has is also very easily countered by any competent team.
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>>148370819
The thing about Nazeebo is a large portion of it is DoT damage, which, depending on the enemy Support(s) can mean next to nothing. He sort of pads the meters a bit.
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>>148370819
naz is stat padding trash
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>tfw you don't die once as based murkle
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>>148372213
tales from bronze
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>>148372313
actually i am diamond 3 but yes that was qm

>implying i wont play murky in ranked RIGHT NOW and win
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>>148372498
qm is always bronze
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>page 10
ded game
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>>148374820
gul'ded
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>>148374820
Yeah we know, can something save it? Or it is really doomed, Waifus aren't enough
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Who the fuck at Blizzard thought Rain of Destruction was a good idea?
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Is Illidan still a good pick?
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>>148377378
It ultimately depends on who can keep him alive in the late game. Even the simplest enemy team coordination will ruin any jump he tries to make an influence in. It's pretty damn hard to solo camps now if someone just gives you a love tap too.
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>>148378441
So, with the right team he can shine

I mean like hammer, you have to build around him, more or less?
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>>148378596
Sure, yeah. Those words.
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what is that goo coming out of her mouth?

does kerrigan have bugs crawling in her vag?
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>>148378883
Mmmm cool, I'll have him in mind when I play with my friends, thanks
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>dead game
>not dead board

get a grip
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>>148379179
>reddit
Fuck off.
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>>148379179
Well with mods going around deleting every other post, it's kinda hard to keep it alive.
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>the general actually page 10'd
ow
who's the best hero of the storm /hotsg/
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>>148380391
me, the manlet on the pigeon!
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>>148378912

did diablo just deep throat her in this picture? or was it raynor????
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>>148380391
This general hits page 10 multiple times a day and gets bumped by someone posting something random
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>>148381017
yeah is almost magic
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>>148379179

how do i join the /vg/ chat in game?
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>>148381017
but it actually DIED
it DIDN'T get saved for a change
scary
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>>148381179
Have you tried reading the OP?
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Kerry still kinda works
shame for no ult

next starcraft hero when ?
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>>148381179
if you do join the channel, remember to shit on senjinn and ipwnlocks
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Anyone else really enjoying the new Zagara?
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dead thread
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>>148383942
Yes and no, I feel less like a auto attack bot with the choice of Q spamming. I guess it's just the idea of getting used to her new setup.

(I'll be honest I didn't notice the changes until I saw one baneling pop out of her spawn hole. THAT was an interesting match.)
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LUNARA
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>>148384353
DEER PUSSY
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>>148384604
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>>148384665
Would Zug Zug/10
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Auriel skills leak
http://www.inven.co.kr/board/powerbbs.php?come_idx=3909&l=3591
hopefully it's accurate
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>>148385523
>Axolotl left us because of reddit
Thanks, Reddit.
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JESUS FUCK new Stiches is fun.

>see an overextended shitter
>hook
>see an ALLED overextended shitter about to get dunked on
>click 1 and then hook
>see camp about to respawn on enemy's side
>send in Sonya/Gaz/etc. to take in seconds, then click 1 and rescue hook them thru the wall
>save lives
>make plays
>never die

BASED ZOMBIE
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>>148378883
In the universe where Illidan is a girl would Maiev be a guy who is fucking her in every hole for 10,000 years?
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>kill an enemy
>"Stopfucking kill-stealing"
>"Keep stealing my kills or I'm reporting you for trolling."

Did the League playerbase migrate over to HotS when I was paying attention?
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>>148385523
Sounds great, I want my angel tits NOW
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>>148390007
12yo babbies who don't know "Kill X number of heroes" quests don't actually require you to last-hit, it's summer after all.

>>148385523
>no stacks
>team mate low
>can't do anything
>"fucking heal me u shitter REEEEE"

EBIN
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>>148390206
>"Kill X number of heroes" quests
The what quests? Did they add new ones?
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>>148390459
Gathering Power, Wizened Duelist, Queen's Rush, Seasoned Marksman etc.
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Who's chair league team made ploffs?
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>>148384665

trying to get lunara to level 5 and she killed my match history, literally lost every game with her so far

mfw
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>team is throwing from draft onwards
>no tank, solo supp tassadar, ebin split push meta with Gazlowe and Zagara on Towers of Doom
>win with one (1) perfectly landed Lamb to the Slaughter (Slaughterhouse talent) at level 22
>enemy team forced to watch as we take 2 altars, all keeps and boss before they respawn

Memes do come real
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>play all 10 placement games with friend
>7/10
>he gets plat 5
>i get gold 4

thank you blizzard
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>>148390990
Based of your preseason MMR too.
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>>148390793

one more match with her win or lose and shes level 5 and then never again with her

never ever
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>>148390990
Time to pay someone to boost you to plat 5
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>>148391078

Our preseason MMR was less than 100 points apart
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>>148391828
With the same amount of games played?
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>>148392035

He has more I think, but only by like 30.

I have more QM than him.
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>>148392092
Only thing that matters is HL games for your rank.
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>>148387427
webm or didn't happen

>>148390793
>i don't know how to position and dodge skillshots
git gud before shittalking my waifu

>>148391828
mmr =| rank/rank points. don't ask why, it's a stupid, intransparent system system.
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>call azmo out on being shit
>throws a bitch fit

Why can't people just accept that they are bad at a videogame and should uninstall, for the benefit of everyone else?
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>>148385523
it's fake, you idiots
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>>148394384
Some of those descriptions fit the video though.
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Holy fuck, the new insight with monk is nice

A little slow at first but once you get it you heal a lot
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>>148394474
ya, no shit. anyone can watch skill previews and make up descriptions based on what they saw
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>>148393362
>webms of ~19 plays from 3 different matches

Just fuckin boot up HotS, select Stitches and queue for Quick Match. Try it yourself. Live a little.
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cant tele as BW or fly as falstad with minimap now? the fuck?
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>>148397743
You can tele as BW, test fal for yourself.
If you have tried and think you can't, you a dumb shit
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How can I best play Medivh?

Every game I play where there's a loss the Medivh always gets blamed. Even though I usually in the middle of damage output, have the most assists, and a pretty high exp contribution.

I'm trying to play him as a support and of course there's no way for people to tell that I've constantly saved their asses with my portals and shield. Plus scouting. Plus pressure with my Q.

What more can I do?
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>>148397743
There was something about being able to click through UI in the patch notes, that probably caused that
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>>148398110
I've also had people leave the minute I pick Medivh?
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>>148390793
Lunara is pretty hard to play well, a lot of people suck with her.
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>>148398110

Team up with a Murky, Xul, Thrall, Illidan, or ETC.

Medhiv is like Abathur but worse, he's only good at making his teammates useful. Perfect portal placements mean nothing if no one clicks them. Perfect Ley Lines won't mean people will focus targets correctly. Invisibilty will not make bad players better or secure escapes or ganks.

He's just a tool, not a hero.
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>>148398557
That's what you call a utility hero, need a good team that understands how to best use his abilities to actually win.

>>148398110
Ask if people understand how to play with Medivh before drafting him otherwise pick something else if you want to win, or play unranked/QM if you want to play Medivh.
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>>148398146
>>148397743
>He clicks to cast
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I'm so fucking happy the Specter Phantom is available on its own now.
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>>148398146
>>148399628
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>>148398557

Yeah so far my experience with him has been less then stellar. Its 50% win rate so far and when we lose, we lose hard. Medivh looks hugely underpowered for the amount of work that needs to be put into him + what he offers. He doesn't offer nearly anything good enough to warrant such difficulty.

Polymorph? Bright has that
Shield? Doesn't last long enough/too low CD to actually make a difference when not used against specific heroes (it counters ults really well, but that's about it).

Portals are grossly underused by players or people don't ever want to use them for anything.

Guess its time to go on break again till the attempt to introduce another interesting hero.
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So I was in game playing Nova because I'm so close to that level 20. For some odd reason I had the poverty horse, so I complained about it in chat.
What do I get back?

"Maybe you're gay."

As someone who IS actually gay I was just thinking. This doesn't even make sense. Are you saying that all gays are poor or something? So, as someone who is completely comfortable with their sexuality I reply with:

"Well I actually am"

And then the guy said that he was too, but clearly wasn't after he made a comment that I'm not even repeating here (partially because of the rules, and partially because I would feel disgusting).

So after I reassured the guy that I was gay, he didn't even reply. No apology, nothing. I proceeded to be nice to the team, since I didn't want to stoop down to his level, and throw out insults. I'm not toxic in game (unless I do it on accident and I don't know it).

So why am I posting this? To prove that even some comments that you think are funny can hurt people, and if you are making gay jokes, remember that someone on your team could be gay. People aren't just going to tell you in chat. And if someone does tell you they are gay in chat, they might be telling you the truth. That isn't your cue to spew off a bunch of comments about how you hate the LGBT community. You'll probably never play a game with the person again. So think before you type something in that chat box. I can't stop you, but I will report you. Just try to play nice, and stop making someone sad. Other people have feelings, and it's alright to apologize. Just try not to be toxic in general. It's alright to lose, learn from your mistakes. I'd rather make someone really happy and lose a bit of my MMR instead of making someone sad and gaining some. Okay. I think I blew off enough steam. Oh, and my formatting might be horrible. Sorry if it is.

Oh and by the way. You're on my list, and if I ever see you make another gay joke in chat again... I'm fighting. Hard.
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This guy found out how to go from a meme to one of the best heroes in one patch, and basically, you're fucking retarded
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>>148400745
>gay
>plays Nova enough to level 20
>probably has the rollerblade skin
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I couldn't possibly get more retarded teammates, It's like I have to carry them and babysit them all the time or they do something stupid.
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>>148400745
post boypussy
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>>148369121

im the best pro lili player in all of HOTS right now, prove me wrong faggots

this was an intense silver rank 2 match and i didnt die once and i kept my team alive even when they would retardedly go off solo i would chase after them and keep them healed

im so fucking pro at lili it fucking hurts

lmao
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So i've been getting alot more survey stuff, not sure if y'all have to. think its related to something though. So I decided to test it out

>think Surveys are related to how chatty you are, and/or shittalking
>Keep up the shittalking
>Keep getting surveys
>Decided to test otherwise
>Be quiet or positive/helpful (rare)
>surveys intially after first two games, then dissappear all together
>Decide to test again
>Shittalk badly
>Surveys every game.

Watch yourselves if you're getting surveys!
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>>148403628
li li is the best support against morons, she can carry anyone to plat
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>>148404856
id confirm the other side of this, I probably only talk 2 lines a game and very rarely get surveys, mostly how was your connection ones.
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>>148400745
New copypasta?
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>>148404856
I tend to get a lot of surveys about connection, map and the hero I was playing to the point where I don't even bother rating it
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>>148400745
>For some odd reason I had the poverty horse
did you write a support ticket? did they confirm it was because you're gay?
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>>148379254
I never use reddit, but I joined their chat channel.

Two reasons:
1) General chat is cancer of the highest order
2) /vg/ has no chat 90% of the time and is empty

Reddit is just the right amount of cancer to be my general chat.
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>>148406675
>vs AI
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>>148406675
>he lost vs AI
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>>148407586
I have one or two losses from when I first started playing the game. They really didn't explain it well in the tutorial for someone who never played this kind of game.
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>>148400745
Sounds to me like you might be pretty gay.
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>>148407586
I've had it happen before. Its usually the perfect storm of events. Laggers, foreigners, and/or REALLY, REALLY bad players.

And on elite/death ball type of heroes.

>>148407702
Ya the tutorial is really shit on the bigger picture.
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>>148407194
>>148407586
thank you
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>>148407702
>>148407747
>trying to make excuses for you being a bad player
How's bronze?
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>>148407867
>i don't know what anyone is talking about so i'll say bronze, again.
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>>148409432
>getting triggered by being called bronze
Is it because it's true?
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>>148409628
>bronze calling each other bronze
hotdogs or you're all shitters
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>>148369619
>inb4 it's ipwnlocks
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>>148403628
>http://www.inven.co.kr/board/powerbbs.php?come_idx=3909&l=3591
>good etc
>really good
sounds like you were carried bro
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>>148403628
http://www.hotslogs.com/Player/Profile?PlayerID=7062965
>literal bronze
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>he fell for the 'your team needs a warrior' meme
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>>148416254
>reddit
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>not played hots since dekaha release
>play now with new mmr
>4 losses in a row
>each game had either two tanks or two support and no dps
fantastic game, blizzard!
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>>148417128
blizzard has control over drafting

crazy fucks them picking two tanks/supports!
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What is the background interaction for the guldan title page?

I just can't find the thing
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>>148419839
There's nothing
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>>148403628
this was an intense silver rank 2 match

On my phone so I don't have a face.
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>>148419839
>>148420112
>they haven't found it
How? It's one of the most easiest to find.
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>10 second queue
>game is a complete roll over for enemy team
What that fuck did they do to the matchmaking?
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>>148420292
What is it m80 I clicked everywhere?
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>remove Haunted Mines because it's the worst
>add in something just as bad

Towers of Doom shelved when
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THOSE ZAGARA AND DIABLO ARE PLAT 1, RIGHT BLIZZARD?
I SHOULD HAVE CARRIED, RIGHT BLIZZARD?
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>towers
>be 2nd in draft, pick the best character in the wow universe LUNARA
>last pick says he doesn't have healers when it is his turn to pick, while hovering the healers he can't play
>check his profile and he's got an healer who hasn't been banned or picked at level 5
>call him out on it
>locks nazeebo
>proceed to nuke the fuck out of the enemy team
heh >:D, healers are over rated, also this isn't the first time it happens to meon towers. I feel like it's the only map where you can afford to not have an healer since forts regenerate and everything's pretty close.
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>>148422047
>shit comp against self-sustain: the team
wew senpai, what did you expect?
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>>148422028
Towers of Doom once you get used to it is pretty cool
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What's the most painful map with shitters on your team?

Dragon Shire comes to mind since lots of people don't know how to rotate properly and many people ignore mercs.
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>>148422345
if you're in shitland, play abathur
retards walking into mines 24/7
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>playing random gives you more exp
>now everyone is playing random
>nobody knows how to play their heroes
>nobody knows how to talent their heroes
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>>148422578
Forgot one

>it doesn't show who is playing random in the loading screen anymore
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>>148422642
>>it doesn't show who is playing random in the loading screen anymore
It's been that way for a while know. At least you can now get mounts you don't own
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>>148422545
But then you have people who say "gg abathur 4v5" and do not know how to play with an Abathur AT ALL.

Double-edged sword.
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>>148375559

what's bad about it?

Horror is just better so I've not used it yet but what makes it so incredibly shit
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>tfw no daughter of cenarius gf
._.
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hi, i searched "whores of the storm" on google, and there is only one result, and it isn't impressive. why? it is a pretty good name for a hots 34 comic
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>>148423676
because heroes are pure
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>>148423414
People don't understand zoning tools and just want le big damage or le big CC on command
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>tfw you lose to azmodan 1v5 because nobody does any kind of lane clearing
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>>148369121

>ranked matchmaking

mfw

IM LOOSING---MY FUCKING---MIND HERE MAN! FUCK!!!!
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>>148424131

ITS LIKE THE RANDOM PEOPLE THEY PUT ME WITH ARE GOING OUT OF THERE WAY TO LOOSE ON PURPOSE 50% OF THE TIME.

mfw forced 50 is real
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>>148424432
>>148424131
>tfw you fall off of the ranked meme band-wagon
>tfw suddenly feel at peace with myself and the game
>tfw not even losing rank/mmr but feel better
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>>148424432
>loose
lol
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>>148424554
HL is pretty much not worth playing if you don't have a friend who is also good at the game so you can actually climb ranks
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>>148369121
>no Cho'gall
Did he and Gul'dan fall out with one another?
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>forced to play diablo
>the enemy team is a nightmare for me: tychus,li ming, jaina, kharazim and stitches
>12 deaths
>we won
jesus christ that was awful
i was awful
the only reason we won was because the enemy team was worse and kept trying to 4v5 us

the last two enemy picks were jaina and tychus, i thought we'd lose for sure when I saw that
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>>148386589
Don't be so dramatic, he posted that shit knowing what could happen. Our hero hasn't left us, he is stronger than that. At one point he didn't make a post for 5 months. He will return.
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>>148425353
>being scared of "I'm here to feed!"
L O L
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Zagara lost rapid incubation

>Fuck

At least banelings are manageable and more forgiving with misses? (Still doesn't make sense why they're invulnerable but oh well)

Creep is free and range buff is alright.

Nydus heals are pointless since you can just link one to hearthpoint, loss of heals on creep really isn't noticeable at all.
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I have a suggestion for Kharazim.
If his Q target is already very close to him, Q dashes BEHIND the enemy instead of to him.

ALSO: Epiphany gains a passive: If your Q target is very close, cast Exploding Palm on it (explodes 2s later for AoE damage, not much)
>might just be enough to make epiphany a gud pick
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>>148422028
>Hating on Towers of Doom
>not Garden of Terror, Blackheart's Bay
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theres no point to playing until maiev comes out
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>>148398110
make sure that after level 20, with the extended portal range talent, you place a portal right in the middle of the enemy team, port in, use W on yourself, get cc-ed, die and lose the game.
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>>148427048
you can already play her on sylv ;)
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>>148399628
Not him, but im on quickcast, and as falstad i just flied 2 yards away because i Z-ed on the minimap. Shit don't work anymore.
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>>148426435
>Nydus heals are pointless since you can just link one to hearthpoint
Pretty sure you regen faster inside nydus than at base
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>>148425353
lord of the martial arts too stronk
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>PAGE 1

we did it reddit
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>Tfw 70%+ WR with Tyrande
>after playing like 300 games with her, including like 200 games with shitters in my team
Why is she still so good? I miss the pre nerf experience but the nerf itself was perfect
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Justify your recent match history not looking like this.
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>>148428268
I play Warrior and Support because if I don't, nobody does
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>>148428308
I thought so too.
>prepick hero, ignore draft
>ignore any request and argument
>stick to your pick
>silence ragers

Of course if you are last to pick you might want to pick warrior or support because you htink it will be better, even if I gotta say, I've won woughly 50% of my supportles games (tankless vs tank is more difficult)

If you are in the first 3 pickers pick what you think you can carry with and someone else will adapt even if it's not their preference, playing a skilled Zagara with a retard monkey Lili will win you more matches than the other way round
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>>148428480
I have turned more games around with Tassadar and Johanna than with any of my best heroes. you just can't carry in Plat with Butcher and Nazeebo it seems

>>ignore any request and argument

yeah no shit how do you think I even get to play Butcher in Ranked once in a while
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>>148428673
>Nazeebo
see >>148371143 and >>148371034
>Butcher
gold and plat are the ranks at which people still make terrible strategic decisions (mercs at the wrong time, favoring map objective over pushing a keep after a won tf, traveling near fog of war) but start to become decent at mechanics. Butcher is very easy to shut down after his charge if people conserve their CC and nothing screams JUST FUCK MY SHIT UP RIGHT NOW like you charging with the Furnace Blast animation, meaning you will charge, get stunned and focused down immediately
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>>148428915
>Furnace Blast

only if you want to throw. there's never any reason to pick outside of extreme niche meme teams that rely on divine shield suicide bombing into enemy backlines.

and if you don't think GP Nazeebo is the tightest shit when allowed to stack then get the fuck outta here.
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>>148428915
>huh my entire team suddenly has below 40% HP even though the fight just started
>probably nothing serious
>oh fuck why are we dying

That is seriously how most people play vs Nazeebo.
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>>148427230
You regen the same, but just getting in the nydus is faster than hearthing unless the nydus entrance is super far away.
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wish lunara would wave at me...
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is the tourney on the last patch?
>>
I swear on god if it wasn't for me knowing how to use the map objectives correctly, my teams would never win a single HL match
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>>148431786
It's not on live, yes.
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>>148432902
uhm????
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>see patch notes
>Kerrigan changes oh boi
>they just shuffled her talents around, nerfed Clean Kill despite it being the talent that basically held her together
>0 changes to either of her useless ults
Why do they hate her so much?
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>>148432947
The tournament is on the patch before the one we are playing.
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>>148432947
you need to understand that these are professionals, literally above Grandmaster tier. they need to rely on pre-baked strategies that only work in a specific meta. you can't expect them to be good enough to adapt to new things without at least a month of training 24/7. they're too good at the game for that.
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>>148433107
but what about epic and funny tourney stories to tell your friends???
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>>148433107
Is there any game that forces players to play on a new patch that drops in the middle of their tournament?
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>>148433237
if you were above Bronze you'd know that being aware of a current meta and adapting your playstyle is bad and shitty. you should only ever follow your original plan even if it doesn't work because this game is about matching 2 fixed strategies against each other. but then again, you're Bronze so you wouldn't understand.

>>148433274
are you implying they could have prepared for the tournament on PTR or even held the entire tournament on PTR to showcase the new patch changes? that would be ridiculous. unthinkable.
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Live game
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>>148432961
>buffs to talents, basic abilities, basic attacks, health
>just shuffled the talents around

It's like you people don't even know how to read.
60% winrate in diamond and master
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what are some BIG SLUTS that arent in the game yet?
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>stage dive
>lose
Poetry.
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>>148436832
zagara skin desu
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>>148429213
Most people are shit then
>dodge the crawling toads
>dodge the telegraphed wall
>spiders are kinda annoying but irrelevant unless you're channeling an objective
>Gargantuan hits hard when it hits what it's supposed to which is 10% of the time maybe less
>slapghost only really useful for wombo
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literally "autoattack: the champion"

why the fuck do faggot champions like this even exist?
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>>148439146
nice positioning retard lmao
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>>148439146
what hero were you using?
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>>148439146

literally bump him on the head or he dies, or just walk away

raynor is ass
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>>148439223
>wow nice positioning!!!!
>literally kills you in 2 fucking seconds from the bush

>>148439250
why does it matter?
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>>148438562
Nazeebo kinda needs a team that can force crowded 5v5s where everyone sticks together like glue. Johanna and Kerrigan synergize well with him because of that reason, either of them can drag enemies together which makes sure both spiders and frogs connect. Zombie wall is a bit of a liability before level 13, after that it just becomes free body blocks and chase for days. Where it actually shines is sieging and mercing which is what you're supposed to be doing anyway. My goals when I play Nazeebo are 1.) not dying ever (to conserve GP) and 2.) getting my stacks at all costs, even if it means leaving a finished merc camp to get one (1) auto attack in on a dying Erik, because +30% Ability Power on spiders, frogs, running zombies AND the unmissable garg summon impact hits fucking HARD outta nowhere. Granted, if the rest of your team is shit, you're dead weight. But that's the gamble you have to risk with most heroes anyway and Nazeebo at least has the chance to turn around really fast with one or two assists at lvl 20.

>tl;dr
>spiders are based
>toads are for close range
>wall is for zoning
>garg is bae
>you know nothing
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Post your skin collection
Tell others how shit their skin collection is

>master
Xul, Kharazim, Zagara, Raynor, Li Li, Sylvanas, Azmodan

>seasonal
All Christmas skin: Stitches, Jaina, Sugarplum Sylvanas, Grandfather Winter Rehgar

>other
Ironclaw Rehgar, Insectoid Zagara, Judgment Uther, Apothecary Morales, Shadowpaw Li Li, Love Doctor Morales, Warden Tyrande
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>>148439879
>master
none

>seasonal
none

>other
Iron Butcher
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>>148439870
Idk what to say, I don't play him myself and evidently I've only played against shit Zeebs
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>>148440002
The secret is not falling for the additional spiders & bigger toads meme because those talents are completely worthless.
>>
>have good run in HL gold last few games.
>next game
>person afked randomed khaz
>not responding entire time
>one person speaking in broken english
>tempted to dodge
>ah hell, YOLO
>clusterfuck of afking and feeding

Ya, fuck HL.
>>
These minion changes are fucking stupid. Makes comebacks night impossible because you have to babysit a lane with a lost keep all the time.
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>>148439879
>master
Kharazim

>seasonal
None

>other
Mecha Tassadar
Vrykul Leoric
Judgment Uther
Snek Xul
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>>148439879
>>148440669
>>148439972
>Vanity fags
>>
Quick /hotsg/ recommend me fun heroes like Sylvanas that can fuck the enemy team's shit up solely by disruption.
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>>148439879
>master
None

>seasonal
None

>other
None
>>
I wonder how much money Blizzard throws at Dreamhack to host these hots tournaments
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>>148439146
>>148439397
hey there, dumb subhuman faggot.

johanna used blessed shield on u, u died.

>what hero u were using?
>why does it matter?

>wow nice positioning!!!!
>literally kills you in 2 fucking seconds from the bush

u have 0 reason to be near a bush unless u are a tank, little retarded piece of low mmr biotrash shit
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>>148439397
>Why does it matter
Because you were obviously playing a squishy with 2000~ HP.
Then you facechecked a bush 1v2, so you deserved to die.
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>>148440982
Against melee, ETC or Johanna
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>>148398110
You have to play him as an sustain assassins
Take Portal + Portal + Master's touche + Poly + Quickening + Healing W and lvl 20 is pretty much depending on their comp
You want to stack you Q at lvl 7 asap without dying. Once you finish the quest your DPS almost triples during TF. You want to assist as a ranged dps and get free poke on people and save your mates by shielding + placing portals at their feets ( pinging the hand assist sign helps too because usually they're too distracted to see them)
You can dive in ennemy comp if they can't stun you fast enough from crow form. Get in position, cast portal away + alt W and spam a Q and port away
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>>148440982
murky
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>>148444515
That hurt my fucking brain.
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This is definitely the ''highest'' rank I've ever had.
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>>148445923
reddit pls go
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>>148445923
ayy lmao
blaze it
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>>148394056
you sound like an insufferable faggot that should uninstall for the sake of everyone else as well
your mute cannot get soon enough nerd
>>
Not sure if you guys have had issues in the past, but I'm on an ethernet connection and I'm having packet loss issues that result in my ping being much higher than it should be. Someone that also play hots on the same internet has no packet loss issues and has good ping on wifi. Any of you guys know a potential fix?
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>>148446658
pingplotter to bilzzshit and see what's going on

other than that, clean up both your computer netwerk hole and the network cable, might be dust.

try it with a different cable. this was the issue for me some time ago, i had to take the cable off the walls and replace it, after that it worked like a charm
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>>148446658
try pinging your router with large packets and see if it's the bottleneck

otherwise like the other anon said
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Dead pox
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>play azmodan
>just push lanes
>win all games
How are you even supposed to spec? I'm taking different talents every game
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Any lunara player ever pick Splintered Spear ? I still pick Nature's Culling most of the time despite the nerf but i tried it on TOD and it's kind of fun, especially when you carry a charge before a fight since there's no time limit. Do you think it's now a better alternative than wild vigor on certain map ?
Also i couldn't see if the extra attacks of splintered spear get the bonus damage if you pick giant killer, anybody knows ?
Sad to see they didn't touch her 1 and 4 talents though.
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>Gul'dan is out
Fuck, I don't really play the game much but I love this guy so much. Might start playing again. Maybe even try to git gud.

I need a break from Overwatch, and stay away from wow.
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>>148450169
They made Wisp Reveal bigger and Cooldown Reduction faster.
>>
>pick push lineup
>ignore objectives
>win every game

THANKS BLIZZ GREAT PATCH
LOVE GETTING DESTROYED BY ARCHERS AND CATAS
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>>148450169
every game as lunara i get to level 4 and AYY LMAO WISP TALENTS time to kill myself
>>
>tfw my Deathadder's left click died
fucking hell, what's a good mouse for under 60$?
>inb4 >>>/g/
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>>148450169
qt
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>get to promo
>our tank picks stitches
>never hooks the entire game, always runs right into the middle of the enemy team
Time to walk away for a few days.
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>>148439879
>Master
Rexxar, Gazlowe, Nazeebo, Xul, Rehgar

>Season
None.

>Other
Ringmaster Greymane.

Nothing else interests me. They don't make good skins for the stuff I like, or if they do, I end up really loving their Master over it. Rehgar and Rexxar are examples of this.

Also going to get Gul'dan's Master. Fucking love it.
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>>148450352
Cool, didn't know that, i will still take speed wisp most of the time.
I meant it more in >>148450515 way, shit looks like a punishment.
Level 1 blossom talent is a joke and you don't struggle with mana either, often pick reveal which isn't complete shit but still is the "less worst pick" in most case.

Don't get me wrong she's still very strong, cute and fun but these two tiers ain't right.

>>148451281
Buy anything that is reliable with enough buttons at 30 bucks unless you want esport money imho. Had a copperhead and a deathadder, they look cool and last long but are still overpriced products, and that might be the case for everything sold by this kind of company.
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>>148440715
>not getting best skin for Butcher after you got him to level 14
>>
>>148452041
>>148451281
>tfw carrying games with a 40 € wireless trackball
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>>148452271
based, i miss my trackball mouse so much now
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>>148440982
anubarak
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>>148452271
im a poor eastern european student with sociophobia, i play on a laptop and with an old ass logitech optical mouse, which is rumored to be around a decade old, passed to me from my younger cousin (he bought a new one and mine was broken), which was passed to him from his stepfather

the mouse wheel doesnt work, the mouse is slow and to play decently i have to max out speed both in windows and in game, and its not fast enough for me, for example, to be able to play widowmaker/hanzo on an acceptable level, im literally worse than the easiest bot.

in hots its hard too, but im high mmr with this trash mouse, heh....

end of blog
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Oh man, lunara is fucking CUTE
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>>148451281
like any $10 business mouse because they don't last more than 3-4 months for me. i also swap buttons in windows once it starts wearing so the buttons are dead at once but that takes some getting used to when you change.

could also look into fixing it to get a little more out of it
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eDoXMJyimDU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U70h4ZDRAC4
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>>148450169
I stopped picking Nature's Culling before the nerf, its nice but Wild Vigor can do about the same damage to structures and its not like her wave clear is bad.
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get guldan now or wait 2 weeks and get sonya masterskin instead?
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>Stuff I like about the patch
-monk mana talent on 1 is really fun and actually viable at times
-uther is super fun right now and more viable
-kerrigan buffed
-kt nerfed

>Stuff I dont like
-tychus trait no longer ignores evsion, a huge nerf in terms of versatility and viability
-zagara is really fucking stupid right now, not even necessarily OP, just really fucking stupid
-minion buffs made comebacks much harder
>>
>>148460521
The best thing about this patch for me was the globe buff. Helps out so many heroes and just feels more rewarding to pick them up and deny them.
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>One of the 1st Hero selection screens for Heroes of the Storm, circa 2010. Lots of things have changed in 6 years=)

>Blade Master
FUCKING WHEN?
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>>148460717
>GoTA

wat
>>
>>148460674
li-ming's power hungry is so strong now. just played her on tomb and only tapped once. no hearth.
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>>148451281
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>>148460521
>minion buffs made comebacks much harder

I kind of disagree, it doesnt affect comebacks but it does punish teams that are losing and dont capitalize on a team wipe to equalize the structures or win and Ive seen plenty of times where my team wins one or two fights and instead of pushing to win we lose because we didnt get to the core fast enough and the catapults plus enemy team fucked us.

The comeback potential is still there, you just need to take that chance instead of waddling around doing jack shit.
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>>148460840
guardians of the ass
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>>148461324
>those textures
couldn't they have put her in Shadowmoon or something, at least.
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>>148460717
needs more force waves
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>>148461324
best butt
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>>148461324
>>
>>148461201
That's not even what I meant. With catapults especially getting this huge buff, a lane where you lost a keep (and the enemy has his) basically needs to be babysat 24/7. Combined with how standoffish lategame teamfights tend to be, it's super easy to get dragged into a poke battle around some crucial objective and just take crazy core damage or force someone to go back, getting into a 4v5.
>well just be decisive and dont get dragged into long fights
Duh, but still, you're on a much shorter timer now. Nevermind the fact that the opponent can easily exploit this by evading a true fight or just preparing an ambush as they know you will have to force an engagement.

At the end of the day this minion change made being ahead much more rewarding than it used to be, thus comebacks are harder.
>>
my queue times are now back to where they were before the new ranked system

ded game
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>>148461625
>Combined with how standoffish lategame teamfights tend to be, it's super easy to get dragged into a poke battle

Return of "everyone runs in after Butcher and accidentally wins the game" meta??
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>>148460717
I AM HERU AND OBEY.


Soon, brother. Blood and thunder.
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>>148460717
>>148462609
>1 secon.
damn, i missed out on that one
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>first pic nova
>has aba portrait
here we go!
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>>148462929
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>>148461942
Needs moar ass.
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Whats the highest Death Ritual stacks you've gotten in a match /hotsg/?
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>>148369357
`
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>>148463804
I've had over 6k one game.


... The game just wouldn't fucking end.
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>>148400745
post dick
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>>148464463
You'd have over 30k hp with that, couldn't you just walk into the enemy team and auto attack them to death?
>>
>>148464463
You mean 6k health or 6k stacks? Because even if you got a stack from literally every single minion that spawned, the soonest you could have gotten 6k stacks is 142 minutes.
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>>148369357
rigged

jaina had a dominating lead for days
>>
>>148464694
>>148464791
Whoops, I meant 6k health. I'm retarded.

It was like playing Azmodan with Nazeebo's skillset.
>>
>pick jaina
>enemy has gul'dan
>he takes worst ult
>stands in all three waves of blizzard every time
I guess that's the use of the third wave
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>>148465601
>fear is possibly the most OP ult at 10 and definately the most OP ult at 20
>mfw my teammates pick the fucking tickle rain every time
>>
>tfw you get slyvanus on boe
>>
Has Blizzard released the numbers for league distribution?

There are so many bad players in diamond that it really makes me wonder if they were too generous in preseason MMR-based placement.
>>
>>148467147
its probably not even that, number of games has a greater impact on rank than mmr. all you need to do is have a 50.00000000001% win rate and you will make diamond 1/master
>>
>>148436832
cydaea hero concept

master skin: more bondage.... sexy......
skin: spider queen

abilities: dont care, just wanna fap to cydaea

aoe web
>>
>>148369619

Reminder that you're the only one who cares.
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>>148369619
what am i looking at
>>
Cheers love, the _____ is here!
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>>148471740
>forcing memes
Now all we need is the Tyr/Li ming butt poster, sonya dick poster, and lili cropped porn poster.
>>
>>148472263
you yourself are becoming a meme by posting the same thing in every thread
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>>148469210
Sure thing, ponyfucker.
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>>148472263
This one?
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>>148400525
>Medivh looks hugely underpowered
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>auto select bonus for heroes nobody plays is XP not gold
>>
>all these bait takers
i guess we need bumps somehow
>>
Why does Nazeebo have so high win rate?
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>>148439879
>master
rehgar

>seasonal
cute fairy sylvanas

>other
marshall raynor, chef stitches, pajamathur, ringmaster greymane, purifier artanis, zerg hunter zeratul, succubus kerrigan hellhammer thrall

>>148440296
>all the signs of needing to dodge
>not dodging
ebin
>>
>play Gul'Dan
>Medivh completely shuts down everything I do save for Horrify

EBIN
>>
>>148439879
>master
LiLi, Hammer, Nova, Lunara

>seasonal
All Lunar/ Christmas

>other
tl;dr like 80% of all paid skins
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>>148476205
>play any hero, even medivh
>Medivh completely shuts down everything i do save for X ult
good post
>>
>>148439879
>master
Tyrande, Jaina, Lunara, Xul, Greymane

>seasonal
Christmas Jaina and Sylvanas, Lunara Jaina

>other
a lot, my favorites are Desert queen zagara, super tyrande and sonya, space lord leoric and mecha tassadar
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>>148477032
>I only play pure DD
>I have never touched Johanna or Muradin

KYS yourself
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What do you think about Illidan's Skins?

>Master is cancer

>Shan'do cool but the recolors are aids

>Anima pretty cool, but the effects are a bit old, needs rework

>Lunar is actually cool
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>"I main Jaina"
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>>148477032
Are you some kind of mentally challenged? Medivh exclusively shuts down damage which is all Gul'dan has in his kit save for Horrify. He literally has no CC or mobility in his kit, only damage and damage over time, both of which are not sustained enough to outlast Medivh's shield or big enough to burst someone down in the 5 seconds of cooldown between shield casts. Gul'dan might have the worst kit in recent HotS history.
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>>148478216
I assume you like orc cock
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>>148478216
maining anything in a moba is autistic
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is this fair?
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>matches are now decided 5 minutes in when first fort falls
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>>148479456
>that red team draft
DOA
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>>148479456
I would like both teams if it wasn't for Chromie

Blue team with a melee assasin/bruiser would be dope
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>>148479869
That map is god tier for chromie

As long as she is going full q build and not meme breath
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>>148480042
Didn't know that, let's wish that luck for our pal there then
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>>148480262
she can stall some altars for ever and well if she's good enough she's going to cuck kael so fast that the other team is going to have no dps at all.
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>>148479869
>>148480262
Yeah, towers is easily Chromie's best map due to how easily she can interrupt over walls and such. That's also caff playing her, so there's that, too.
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>>148478732
It's a good idea in LeL and DotA where you need to have the feel of a certain few heroes. If you play like each hero once a year or some shit, you won't be very good.

However it is important to have played every or at least most heroes in your life so you know what they're like.
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>it's a 9 deaths illidan blames everyone else episode
i was last pick and everyone was already flaming each other over the chromie & dehaka first pick so i picked chen
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>>148480590
Did ipwnlocks get so assmad at the "only constant" meme that they've changed their name to it?
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>>148480590
So sad when the majority of Illidan mains are toxic

I wouldn't say I main him, but I have a lot of fun playing with him, but at least I know when I fuck up
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>>148479456
blue team got crushed because falstad was a bot the whole game, there is JUSTICE
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>>148481178
well that sucks
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>>148461625
>With catapults especially getting this huge buff, a lane where you lost a keep (and the enemy has his) basically needs to be babysat 24/7.

Not anymore than before. The range buff is irrelevant to wave pushing against minions. It makes them slightly more dangerous if you allow a pack of them to reach your Core, but that's no different than before. If you were a shitter who couldn't rotate to regularly clear a pushed lane before you are still a shitter; the game just punishes you a little faster for it.
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>>148483717
banned for LiLi bump?
Mods want this thread to die...
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tfw 3 fort cumback with absolute retards
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>>148479456
How did this actually end?
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is toxic a meme or are you guys using it unironically ?
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>>148485447
if someone keeps memeing in chat and shitting on everyone else without doing anything productive themselves, that shit puts me on tilt

which is why I don't bother with Allied Chat. all this game needs is a "Wait" ping and we're golden.
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>>148449352
I'm on vacation in Vermont. I'll be back on Monday, sweetie pie
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>>148484363
>Dying that much as OPStad
He's sub human.
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So even though there were Zagara changes does she play pretty much the same? Like same build and stuff?
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Good bye, dead horse.
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>>148488959
shes much more fun

i quickcast everything and am still getting used to the banelings change, ill occasionally shoot one behind me because they come out faster and one at a time
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>>148488959
the creep regen nerf made her much easier to deal with

but she can still push so very fast if left un-checked
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Played Tyrael for the first time
had a ton of fun shielding allies and chasing enemies trying to run away
did this guy get buffed last patch or was he always fun to play as?
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>>148491423
>did this guy get buffed last patch or was he always fun to play as?
both
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>>148484045
good
fucking
riddance
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So what can I post to bump the thread that is approved by the internet police committee?
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>>148481035
As someone who mains healers(mostly Uther) I despise Illidans who jump in the middle of the enemy team when no one else is nearby and whine when they die.
Literally cancer.
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Is there a consensus yet on how "good" Gul'dan is?
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>>148492949
[x] anything that isn't furshit
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>>148492949
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>>148492132
Is there a consensus of talents that are required to take?
I've really liked taking his shield talents and the whole team invulnerability ult.
Healing auto attacks seems fantastic, too
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Not dead yet!
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>enemy team gets boss or a kill
>"You know what? Treasure for everybody!"
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>nova pickers
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How to fix(?) Tracer

Dashes are 1 ability, have longer CD, must be dash within one second of the last, or the whole ability goes on CD

Her AA counts as abilty dmg and her W counts as AA dmg

Recall has a .5 second cast time, and only changes her position, doesn't remove effects unless you get the talent at 20

Lastly, remove her from the game
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>>148500916
perhaps you should learn to git gud and right click and play raynor
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>its a "xul makes it through 2nd ban phase on tomb" episode

how in the fuck did this happen? thank god the enemy team is just as retarded as mine.
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based skelly
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>>148498414
But mostly, for the enemy! Ya ha har
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>>148501159
I know i shit all over tracers with leech health skill alone as a hammer. Takes alwhile for them to figure that out.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ea996d4CFM
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>>148503053
did you have to start a new smurf again, lk69?
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>play Tyrael
>enemy team has a Chromie
>slam my big black dick of justice right up her tight asshole every teamfight
>win game

das it mane
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When I read the Zagara patch notes, I was so happy. They looked great. She looked fun. She IS great and fun but...

The fucking plat autists play her just like they play Sylvanas, HURRR DURRR I PUSH LANES ALL GAME.

Jesus fucking christ I'm so sick of this shit. People at plat play with bronze strategies, the only thing that's better is that they have better mechanical skills. FUCK THAT.
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>retard on my team is first picks chromie and I tell him not to because she's too easy to counter
>he does it anyway, says "stfu im diamond 2 on my main"
>yeah what the fuck ever
>our last pick thankfully dodges
>queue again immediately
>the same guy on the enemy team, also first pick
>he FPs Chromie
>I pick Nova
>proceed to shit all over him the whole game with no one being able to stop me
feels good man
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Is there any point in this game where people doing the boss stop getting fucking hit by its skills? I'm plant 1 now and they sit in them roots like it's a skittles dispenser.

The enemy team just gave us the game while doing their boss since their T W O squishies got caught in the boss root, before we even got there. 2x Precision Strikes and they were both dead before the teamfight even started.

I'd like to think those two learned a valuable lesson that day, but more likely they were too busy having a shitfest on chat, trying to blame the healer.
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>Me - Morales
>Diablo
>Chen
>Rehgar
>Jaina

vs.

>Morales
>Tyreal
>Valla
>Guldan
>Sylvanus

How is this a "fair" random match up? Two tanks and two healers versus an actually balanced team? And Diablo/Chen/Jaina fight the whole game instead of team work?

Seriously, this game is shit.
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>>148506953
Well Rehgar can be built for damage so yeah

Also their only healer was a Morales, you had a chen. He could easily flip back there and fuck her up if Rehgar supports him while Diablo peels for you and Jaina.

In reality though you guys probably were all shitters
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>>148378912
she sure does
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>>148460336
Never buy heroes for 15k if you want master skins.
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>>148505505
She's great for pushing, but she does best when she pops into a lane, clears it, then heads back to her team.

You don't have to just push steady all game, and she has really strong team fight potential if you use her that way.

I see idiots using her as a full time pusher all game, not participating with their team, and feeding as they overextend. So play her yourself, help your team and take advantage of that mad lane push.

And keep up that creep!
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>>148385523
Apparently some Chinese site ripped off guys concept for Auriel, since he based it on what was datamind so far, so it looked legit.
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Everytime I play this game it's like I'm playing with 9 other little retards in a fucking daycare.

I'm so fucking glad this game is dying.
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>>148480826
No because he usually plays with 1-5 silenced people per game, that fucker draws them to himself.
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>>148369357
It's obviously Juri Ming by a country mile
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>QM to practice Kerrigan cuz she's super good now
>Queue into a zeratul+nova 2 man team
>We're gonna roam and get kills so you guys soak XP okay ;D
>Still win thanks to undying Ultralisk push
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Who is best D3 grill?
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>other team is a 5-man premade who know what they're doing and coordinate like a real team
>3-man on my team has a clinically retarded Butcher, a Morales that doesn't know how to heal and doesn't know one single bit of positioning, and a Gul'dan who whiffs his Horrify every team fight because their monkey ass brains simply can't comprehend the incredibly simple mechanics of one of the most casual-friendly MOBAs in the entire universe
>straight up ignoring objectives
>Morales medivacing into the middle of the enemy team from across the map with her nigger Butcher after we've already retreated
>can't do shit about any of this because ape fuck Morales is always in the backline of the enemy team every team fight

I don't care anymore.

I don't care.
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>>148518948
Sonya

but they're all great
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>>148518948
>the sweat on sonya
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>>148519093
yeah they really nailed it with all the female options in D3. I always went grill
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>>148519090
time to play draft mode.

I mean, it won't solve all your problems but at least they will be different problems
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>>148519093

Rule 63 skins when? A male Barb skin was datamined long ago.

I hear the male Barb in D3 was originally intended to be the exact same Barb as the one from D2, but that would've meant unique dialogue they didn't have time to record.
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>>148520243
I'd play fem doctor all day
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Is it a bad habit to be going Pyrosphere on Kael more often than Phoenix? I just like the OMPH it has and how it can just straight up kill a lot of the lower health heroes.
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>>148521786
If theres no mediv, uther, khara then its fine

also don't use it on tracer, illidan with meta, chromie with stasis, dehaka, or lunara with leap
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>>148521897
also countered by rehgar, tassadar, and anyone with long range displacement,
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>>148520243
We already have a male Barb.
:^)
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>>148522365
how big is her sword....
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>>148513895
when did they add a purple maisie williams skin?
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>>148522474
Apparently bigger than a lot of men's.

http://vignette1.wikia.nocookie.net/heroesofthestorm/images/2/2e/Barbarian_Pissed15.ogg/revision/latest?cb=20150716211624
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>>148522625
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>johanna will never smite me
:(
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>it's a fals gusts their frontline on our backline episode
FML
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>play Kael, Jaina or GM
>feed like a bitch
>play tank
>carry team to the win
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>>148423798
It isnt even a fucking zoning tool

You can stand in it for free it literally does nothing except look cool. The meteors do about as much damage as a kael'thas auto attack and you only have a 15% chance of one even hitting you.

So it's an ulti that has a 15% chance of doing as much damage as an untalented kael'thas auto attack and an 85% chance of doing literally nothing. It's an ulti that can't even clear a fucking minion wave.
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>>148527942
it should spawn infernals desu
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>>148422141
depends on their healer.
Vs. uther, losing your healer for an assassin will let your team focus down before his CDs refresh. Malfurion as well, his burst healing isn't quite high enough. Khara/morales it might be a bad idea against...
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why is LUNARA so perfect?
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>>148527125
>play kael jaina or greymane
>carry team to a win
>play tank
>carry team to a win
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>>148527125
>be a shitter
>feed like a bitch
>dont be a shitter
>carry team to win
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How are we liking the stitches baseline helping hand?
I dislike that you can't change it while it's on CD.
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This new patch is so lame. It's just "split push all game 'till you eventually win!"
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>it's another "hero released with below 40% win rate" week
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>>148530981
Gul is fine, shitters just be shitters as usual.
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>>148531461
so is medivh, got 52% wr with him while the hotsdogs data average is at 37%

shitters be shitters
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How Gul could be good in competitive if his W is Leoric`s with self-stun and he needs it to continue casting?
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I don't get it. Why does Medivh have such a low win rate? He's fucking awesome. I won 6/10 games with him so far. Two of those even had retards that didn't pick a support.

>enemy team doesn't have stuns
>fly into them, portal on top of allies, let the rapings commence
>shitloads of constant damage
>get of jail free card every 5s
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>>148531461
>peashooter damage that can be out healed by fucking malfurion
>W that roots him in place
>only way of increasing HP is a troll talent

He's shit.
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>>148531868
Because of his level 4 and 13 talents
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Can Illidan still solo bosses?
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>>148531965
Portals are good, but require split-second decisions, or you`re better continue running.
W is awesome, but most heals can save a person AND top off him.
Mount is top for scouting, but makes you late for stuff like tributes (20%)
Waveclear on empty lane is shit, and damage is sustained on a squish (with a good escape, though).
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>>148532456
>Portals are good, but require split-second decisions, or you`re better continue running.
portals can help you get enough of a distance for the enemy team to not be able to follow you as well as swooze in

>W is awesome, but most heals can save a person AND top off him.
invuln is a little short but can help someone survive a burst of shit being dumped on them

the other points are valid however
his mount is a little slow, and the cooldown on "whiffed" Q's painfully long
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>tfw I thought the icon for Deep Tunnel was a rubber duck this whole time
I don't even know anymore.
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>it's another "QM pits you against a good comp with good players while your team is meme team with shitters" episode
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Why even bother trying in this game? Wins and Losses are already decided the second you get into the match.
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>>148533185
this is what bronzies actually believe
>>
Thrall is secretly the strongest hero in the game
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Why did they have to break the colour blind mode, again?

>>148534809
>secretly
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>>148534809
no shit
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>>148534832
>being colorblind

LUL
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Why are Kerrigan players so shit?
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I haven't played since Tracer was released, has anything big happened in this game since then? I read that Haunted Mines was removed is that true?

Also I play Abathur only, has he been nerfed/buffed at all?
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Guldan low winrate because retards cant management HP/MP for their fucking life.
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>frost armour is bugged
please never fix it
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>>148535998
>has anything big happened in this game since then?
they recently buffed minions to do 50% more damage to structures, making pushing more viable
a few tweaks here and there, zagara is pretty good now
dx11 is finally an option which apparently improves performance significantly

>I play Abathur only
cancer

he got a few tweaks with the latest patch
read up on those patch notes
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>>148536080
Gul'dan low win rate because he has fuck all damage, no mobility and an ult that requires your team to not be brain dead.
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>>148535998
>I play aba only
No he's been nerfed into the ground.
Stay away from HOTS, never even think of playing it again. We don't need your kind 'round here, ya hear?
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>>148535998
Haunted mines was removed wayyy before tracer release, buddy. You can still play it in customs, though.

Also, I think tracer came out before the new ranking system. Everything is bronze to grandmaster in HL and TL now, with promo games and demotion games and all that jazz.

Abathur is pretty much the same as he's always been.
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>>148536096
What's the bug?
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>>148536096
whats the bug
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>>148536371
>>148536405
>hurr durr pls spoon feed me
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>>148536371
>>148536405
the description states that enemy heroes that attack you are chilled
it also applies to minions who hit you though
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>>148536453
epic dude

>>148536468
Oh, neat I guess.
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>>148536468
Oh. Well, I mean, it's neat, I guess, but it's not really game-changing. You clear a wave by just pressing W anyway, so trying to wade into the wave so they all get chilled for the bonus damage on your first waveclear spell isn't usually necessary.
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Is Greymane one of the most underestimated heroes in the game? I 1v3'd a Greymane, Tyrael, and Gul'dan yesterday as him. They were only a level below me
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>>148536189
>>148536247
>>148536286
Alright, I think I'm gonna start playing ranked again after a long break. With minions doing more damage an afk pushing build with all locust talents seems pretty good. Plus people who are as bad at the game as me never know how to counter an Aba.
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>>148536650
>>148536682
it's nothing huge but it's SOMETHING and jaina could really use a few somethings
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>>148536805
Assault strain got buffed, too, btw. I haven't seen it used yet, but in theory it synergizes with the buffed minions better than bombard strain. Worth a try.
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>>148536902
a few green erect somethings
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>>148514050
what the fuck with this picture.
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>>148536947
she gets those all the time anyway
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I'm not a faggot for having vikings as my main, am I?
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>>148537037
>maining
it's okay to have a hero you really like, even better if you're actually good at them
you should be able to switch to a different character if your team is really piss poor and requires you to fill a role though
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>>148530814
Ditto, otherwise I have saved some people with it.

>>148530928
Ya, seems overtuned. Whereas it was about killing groups for the most part, now you actually have to babysit lanes and hope the other team has nexto to no push power.
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>>148536796
he's one of the top contested picks in high mmr, most underestimated I would say is Kerrigan currently.
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>>148536796
>most underestimated
>not Butcher
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does sustained carapace boost shield DURATION or shield AMOUNT?
the lengthy description states it's the shield amount which is boosted by 40%, but the shortened description says it's the duration which is boosted by 40%
on top of that the shield amount doesn't seem to be increased by 40%
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>>148537834
Extends the duration.

Also makes a nifty combo with the talent that gives the shield to all nearby units. Hat into a minion wave, use all skills, maybe Stab twice, and unhat. The whole minion wave will still have a shield for about 7 seconds and will push harder.
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>opponent greatly favoured
>old system: lose as little as 20% of the basic loss penalty
>new system lose 90% minimum

fuck you blizz
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>last player decides that doesn't want to support/pics thrall instead.

Why rank then?
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>>148538269
you win more points if you win more frequently
you lose more points if you lose more frequently

not my problem you can't git gud
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>>148538226
I'm pretty sure they changed it to increased shield amount, or both, with this patch. I'll check the patch notes to be sure.
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>>148537834
>>148538226
>>148538517
Yeah, they changed it in the most recent patch.

>Sustained Carapace (E)
>Now increases the Carapace Shield amount by 40% instead of increasing the duration by 50%

If it says otherwise, it's most likely a tool tip error.
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The vikings insta-respawn R is garbage, but the longboat raid is both useful and fun as hell
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>>148537037
If you're good at vikings, there's no reason not to play them on every appropriate map. Their mechanics are dominating when done well and can turn an otherwise lackluster team into a win by giving them a talent advantage in every fight. With the new minion mechanics (double structure damage) and the ability to bribe knight camps, the push vikings can do during an objective is even more valuable than before.

>Objective up
>everyone collapses to objective
>you bribe knight camp, have merc lord talent
>enemy team has to either defend and lose the objective, or let a double strength knight camp push freely

Also make sure to scream at nazeebo mains to pick something else because 'muh stacks' is not a valid reason for them to contribute nothing to the team.
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>>148538672
Interesting

Seems like it's better now to skip the carapace talents even if going for a hard pushing locust build and go for Adrenal Overload, Needlespine or the mine upgrades. MULE on Sky Temple is good too.
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>>148539072
>double structure damage
but it got toned down to 50%
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>>148538449
Congrats you completely missed my point
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>>148539072
You're gonna let me get my stacks or watch me feed on purpose just to piss you off, shitter. Alternatively you could play a hero that doesn't force the entire team to adapt to its autistic playing style, but of course Viking mains (just like Murky mains) don't ever accept that they're not >muh team captain

fuck you
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>>148539072
Vikings only exist to feed Greymane and Tracer stacks.
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>>148540001
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>>148540529
How the fuck do you build up GP stacks if you're "MiA in teamfights"? At least make memes that make sense if you don't wanna get BTFOed like the viking cuck you are
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>>148541772
trait stacks obviously
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>QM into this game
>get raped all the time
>still win because gazlowe can get camps in literally 5 seconds

he good now
>go into a siege camp, drop TNT and start hitting, the first merc is dead before the TNT goes off
nevermind that you rape anything at level 20 that is dumb enough to touch you in melee
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>>148534809
>diet greymane
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>>148542752
>greymane gets bullshit amounts of self heal every 5 secs
>greymane has any CC
>greymane has reliable ranged abilities
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>QM is so fucked rn that I get matched with someone from Team Liquid even though I am literally dirt league

Dead game.
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>>148534809
i love watching thrall run like a little bitch as soon as his health drops below 70%
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>>148439146
>champions
go fuck yourself
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>>148369121

Official caster power levels:

S tier (must watch):

- Grubby
- Khaldor
- Dreadnaught

A tier (you'll have a good time):

- Kaeyoh
- Gilly
- Kaelaris
- Wolf

B Tier (eh, could be better):

- Dunktrain
- Zoia

C Tier (why even bother):

- Jake

D Tier (rather do a quickmatch):

- Jake friends.
Feel free to fill it, I don't remember every caster name/nick.
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>>148543620
How the fuck can anyone listen to Gurbby for more than 5 minutes let alone watch that butterfaced fuck? I get cancer just from hearing him.
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>>148543620
To me, it's like this:
S Tier:
Khaldor
A tier:
Dreadnaught
Grubby

Anything else is either straight pissing me off or not worth watching at all.

Not sure what the fuck Gilly is doing in your A tier.
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>>148543757

nice try Jake, pls go.
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>>148470471
blizzard employee leaked future heroes here, ponylover that posts 4chan content on reddit for ebin upboats posted his leaks on reddit to expose him so he can feel morally superior and get even more upboats.
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I need help. I played almost only team league and i am Diamond 5 in it, being the captain of my team.

I am starting my Hero league placement, and I lost 2 of those because I went full retard and tried to fill the right classes in my teams because i forgot how stupid can people be.

What do I pick to carry Hero League shitters? I was playing with bronze/silvers.
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>>148545021
Forgot something, I am a shitter, and I think i can till improve a lot, you are not a good player until you reach something like High masters/grand master.

I don't think I am the best player ever, but I think I could carry my team with the right pick, should I try with something like Sonya/Thrall/Zagara?
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>>148545021
diamond 5 team league is like bronze 5 hl
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>dropped into a QM vs a 5stack that has Vikings on it
>on Towers

Thanks for yet another instant loss that somehow still takes 20 minutes.
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>>148545178
I assure you it's not, people in Bronze/Silver don't know about basic mechanics like "Don't fight 4vs5" or about rotatons, when to do bosses and camps, when to leave objectives.

I assume you don't play TL, do you?
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>>148543620
hidden god tier: mewn
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>>148545304
>don't know about basic mechanics like "Don't fight 4vs5" or about rotatons, when to do bosses and camps, when to leave objectives
seeing as this still happens in GM you dont have as much of a point as you believe
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>>148545673
Sometimes it happens, but not nearly as much as it does in low ranks.

Just forget it, what do you think can carry shitters the most?
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>>148545750
tracer, li ming
probably kerri too if the enemy is bad enough
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>>148545567

... who?
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>>148545838
forgot to mention: of course this all applies only if you personally are significantly better than all of the opponents

if it's a somewhat equal match, you carry shitters by babysitting them constantly, pining and telling them what to do and where to go without sounding condescending or bitchy or anything that would make them not follow your intructions
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>>148545920
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>>148545920
a salty jew that only has viewers because he was chu8s friend
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>>148546282
>chu8
again... who?
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>>148546282
who
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>>148546340
>>148546404
>not knowing the god of HoN chu8
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I JUST WANT ONE MATCH WHERE MY TEAM IS THE ONE THAT ISNT FULL OF SHITTERS JUST ONE FUCKING MATCH
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>>148520243
it's almost staggering that femdiablo hasn't been released yet
like, they even took most of his spell animations from the D3 boss fight where you fight fem diablo (although he did have some kind of lightning breath in D2 iirc), and despite that they've yet to add in a femdiablo skin

making the barbarian female in hots was an odd choice because she has neither the voice talent nor the tough factor of the male barbarian to make herself stand out as anything other than a butch woman
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>>148546840

But anon, you are the only constant. You are the shit making your world shitty. :(

>>148546576

>HoN

what is that?
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>>148547039
>what is HoN
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>>148539072
>double structure damage
>>148539428
>but it got toned down to 50%

before patch they did 200% damage to structures(100% base damage + 100% bonus to structures).
after patch they do 300% damage to structures(100% base damage + 200% bonus to structures).
so the bonus damage to structures has been doubled, but net. increase is 50% damage.

>>148540001
having vikings on your team frees you from having to soak any lane. you literally only roam around and collect your welfare(gank opponents) that autistic vikings pay for. if you are to retarded to do that you are intellectually below niggers.
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>>148543091
TL is literally dirt league though
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>>148547039
>play Gul'dan
>our Kael'Thas tries to 1v1 Nazeebo within enemy tower range
>dies AND wastes ult
>one man down for tribute
>actually 2 men down because Abathur didnt bother picking clone ult

MY OWN FUCKING FAULT I GUESS
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>>148547204
>playing the game like it's intended
>on par with picking fights with police and playing victim for SJWs while shitting up western culture with ooga booga "music" and memes
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>>148545945
Found it, wreckt the last 2 games with sonya and zagimon. Fucking awesome, they can carry shitters.

Zagara is very powerful, if you are in a large map, i just had some very strange Nature's prophets flashbacks.
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>>148548690
>play gul'dan in qm
>not a single game with a tank
>only supports I get are tass and tyrande

QM matchmaking got royally fucked by the last patch
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>>148428915
Only retarded butchers initiate. Butcher has to be sneaky. You wait for the fight to start then charge a back line (from the side or behind them) chain them and delete them. You can get out most of the time too. He's good if you're good. Some lineups he can't do anything though
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what is the /vg/eneral opinion of gul dan
is he good or do other mages do his job better
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>Azmodan, why are you pushing lane, Azmodan doesnt have any waveclear
>Azmodan, group up, we're three levels behind and they have heroics while we don't, but getting wiped at this objective is more important than taking that fort your attacking.
>Azmodan, you have low hero damage. What a garbage champ, you're contributing literally nothing, aside from taking every fort in that lane uncontested.

League players need to stop trying to sound smart in this game.
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10 minute queues and im not even super high mmr
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>>148551513
>cropping
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>>148551513
>uncontested
And you died 7 times?
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>>148552406
I died during the times I was dumb enough to listen to my team and group up to get wiped at an objective. After that I just went right back to shoving lane.
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Verdict on Gul'Dan?
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>>148552724
Ban on sight, because you don't want your teammates to pick him
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Did they increase free heroes pool or something?
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>>148552982
Only for vs AI game modes
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>>148551445
no escapes whatsoever, lacks the burst of kael or even jaina to make up for it

drain life exposes you and makes an easy target

needs a really strong frontline
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how do i lane against the necromancer guy?
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>>148554025
hit him until he dies
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I honestly think Gul'dan is a good/balanced hero. He does his job well, and has good talent diversity, but does rely on having a lane buddy in a lot of situations, which I think is a huge improvement from things like on-release Li-Ming
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and now,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,i make my exit
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3 lane map.
2 of the enemy team heroes are swapping lanes and doing ganks all early game.
Your team leaves you solo and bitches about everyone getting ganked.
I started to just stay behind the towers and soak xp.
I didn't know what else to even do.
Maybe I should have just given up the xp and tried to rotate lanes?
We had two duo lanes, both pairs just stayed together until obj was up. We also managed to get wiped evey obj.
It was not a long game.
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>>148520243
instead of a male barb skin they should just give us D2 barb as a characters, he can be an angry old fuck and him and xul can make fun of the new kids
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>>148551513
Zeratul and Nova, doing God's work.
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I hope 2 chests dont appear on the map at once, i couldn't possibly handle both.
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>>148554025
Tychus used to be a super strong lane against him but his trait no longer hits through evasion so now... I dunno. I don't think there is a hero that can easily kill Xul and/or keep up in waveclear.
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>>148554025
gank him on his rotation or when he is overextending.
have waveclear and don't overextend yourself.

>>148555120
>I started to just stay behind the towers and soak xp.
pretty much the only thing you can do solo laning. you could bait them into towers and countergank them, but that requires teamwork and communication. also when you see them bot lane you can just push top lane hard since your team should be 2v1 there.
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>>148558421
>since your team should be 2v1 there.
>should
We had two in each lane that was not mine.
We switched lanes sometimes after obj wipes.
Most of the game was stun--->stun--->dead--->move to next lane and repeat.
Only team communication was "STOP DYING YOU FUCKS" and "WHAT A SHITTY TEAM YOU ALL SUCK"
Glad to know soaking xp safely was the best call in such a shitty situation. Always next game, right?
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>>148556558
HAVE I GOT A SURPRISE FOR YOU
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>>148560545
I hate this map, even if I have my highest WR on it.
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>You know you're in Silver League when
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>>148562325
>victory
uhmm???
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>>148562325
>Most kills Gaz
>Top siege Zera
That is some wild silver antics for sure.
I r8 fun level 8/8
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>lunara consistently picked in comp
I knew my waifu was top tier!!!!!
>>
My 2K MMR QM games are on average about 5 mins shorter. From ~23 minutes to about ~18 minutes

pretty interesting. have also had games where I won/loss because everyone ignored the catapults which sieged the core by themselves.
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>new to game
>would like to get into it
>watching esl broadcast
>some chatter about how they should have banned kharazim but since they didn't they needed to take uther because they had lunara
>have no idea fucking why kharazim has to be banned with lunara
>have no idea why uther is a needed pick with lunara

Why do MOBAs have such fucking garbage informative commentary? They literally just recite what's going on. I learn nothing.
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>>148565125
I've played this game for a year and have no clue why those picks would be good/bad
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>>148565125
Try every hero, or at least read what they do.
Play 800+ dumb QM/Unranked games
Test out crazy comps with friends like 5 support.
Learn by playing.
You will never play with anyone able to play like the pro scene.
I've only VERY rarely seen any team able to kill camp but not take it until we have a push set.
Delaying taking an objective until you get the next talent level is also rare as fuck.
You will always play with shitters so just learn hero advantages/disadvantages and work on mechanics.
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>>148565125
There is a tutorial in the game. Not the best but a tutorial regardless. Play a couple of AI matches (with or without bots) To get the general feel. When you're done go to quick match after you think you're confident enough.

Although people on here would give you heroes that are nice to start out with. Best to start now since majority of the heroes are free
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>>148422345
BlackHeart's Bay. Nobody fucking forces teamfights at the turn-in.
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>>148552724
Undertuned, a ranged hero with no range who can either do zero damage and live OR shit out measly damage and die in one hit. Also great for trolling your team mates with level 4 and 13 talents that make you a burden on your own team by making yourself impossible to heal and adding 15 seconds to your death timer.
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>>148560221
all your games will be like this if you solo queue

only constant is you
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>>148565125
At least LoL has people like Bricky who do short and comprehensive hero guides, this game has jack shit in the way of beginner friendly stuff that isn't "just play". Which is precisely what you should be doing.
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>tfw no friends to play hots with
>all the people on /vg/ channel are shit at the game
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>>148565125
>Why do MOBAs have such fucking garbage informative commentary?

It's not really garbage, it's just assuming the viewers are already knowledgeable about things going in. Their aim isn't to teach new people about what's going on, it's to explain what's going on, what it implies, and why it's happening. If they took the time to reiterate miniscule points every time they pointed something out they would never get anything done.

That being said, I do agree that MOBAs are some of the densest competitive games to get into, and they would really benefit from beginner-friendly casts like Dota does. Sadly, this game specifically isn't big enough to support a whole other stream and set of casters like that, though. Although, if there was enough interest shown for it, I'm sure Blizzard would set up some B-casters not at the event to do some beginner casting on a side stream.
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>>148567398
Or they could spend less time showing blizzard videos and spend that time explaining why some of the picks last game were good or whatever else
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>5 games in a row with favored opponents
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>>148565125
Just play the fucking game, not everything needs to be spoonfed to you princess.

Why are people so scared of losing a game? Of being a noob? Of making mistakes and learning? Yeah, someone's gonna insult you, tough shit, move on because no one should care what a random shitter from across the globe thinks of you.
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>>148567632
Twitch ads play over the blizzard videos, so not everyone would be able to see that stuff. Also, again, they're not aware that there is a demand for such low-level explanations. The vast majority of the viewer base understands the casts perfectly fine.
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>>148565125
>Watch Football (real football not american shit)
>some chatter about ''offsight''
>have no idea what ''offsight'' is

I guess it's time to complain on a football forum about how football casters don't explain what certain terms mean.
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>>148565125

just watch EVO for the next 3 days. you'll probably learn a lot more about vidya.
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>>148568234
soccer doesn't have 50+ characters with different skillsets and 10 maps.

and it's off-SIDE you inbred mongoloid
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>148565125
>some chatter about how they should have banned kharazim but since they didn't they needed to take uther because they had lunara
>have no idea fucking why kharazim has to be banned with lunara
your description of the draft situtation is pretty bad but lunara does a lot of multi target damage and kharazim has good aoe heal where uther is mostly a single target healer and only has weak aoe heal

>have no idea why uther is a needed pick with lunara
usually you don't base your healer pick on your ranged assasin. did they have other heroes drafted already? he usually goes well with greymane & ETC

>>148567839
>5 games in a row with big fat bonus points for wins
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>>148567974
Maybe the viewer count is so fucking tiny because nobody actually understands what the fuck is going on
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>>148565838
Or team fights for no reason all game while you beg them to get coins.
>your tank goes and camps the turn in when they have 8/12 coins
ALL MY WHY
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>>148569072
I don't fucking care what it's called lol, the point still stands, the casters make no effort to explain something a new viewer has no chance to understand.
A feature I have proven to be shared between one of the most famous sports in our world as well as MOBAs, making the original claim void and ignorant.
But thanks for the personal insult Anon, I hope it made you feel better.
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>>148570646
All this post is fucking cringey
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>>148570687
lol XD
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>>148570646
>this post

we really gotta stop inviting reddit, dont we
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>pve as vikings till 20 with 3-4 lvl lead totally ignoring team except to tell them to stay together, occasionally being an annoying shit with eric
>crush any squishy that thinks they can take a lone viking solo with surprise play again 3 on 1 rape
>kill core

easy 75% win rate


all those hours of war 1 2 3 back in the day finally paying off
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>playing Gul'dan with another DPS by your side

Most fun I've had in weeks. You basically shit all over everyone in 2v2, but forcing 2v1s is what you're actually supposed to be doing. The poison circles are mean as fuck and will get you kills you didn't even expect to get.

>playing Gul'dan with team mates who leave you alone

WAKE ME UP INSIDE (CANT WAKE UP)
SAAAAAVE MEEEE
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>>148571757
t. silver superstar
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>its a "lili, zag and li ming get caught in ring of frost episode"

How can these people live with themselves? Never mind how they ever made it diamond. I've never had teammates so shitty that Jaina was actually a deciding factor in a loss.
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>>148572068
Plat actually. Which part of the post are you even disagreeing with? If you can reliably play solo Gul'dan, good for you, I can't handle it desu senpai
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>>148572327
The part about Guldan shitting on people. His ult is an extremely potent teamfight abiliy but his basic tools are nothing to be afraid of.
Very easy to dodge skillshots.
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Never seen Dehaka at the top before.
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>>148570646
>soccer
>a game with no tactics outside of the game

>moba
>a game with a whole game of tactics before even starting the game
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>>148572962
>can't tell the difference between strategy and tactics
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>>148572815
got the cd reduction on swarm probably
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>>148572706
That's why I said "with a second DPS" to force 2v1s if you can. Same as with Jaina, once you start teaming up with a frontliner or someone like Xul/Nazeebo, landing your shots becomes trivial. And Fel Flame comes out stupidly fast on a 2(?) sec cooldown, it's basically impossible to NOT hit at least 4 of them per fight if your aim isn't Parkinsons tier bad. And Corruption is only for catching runners. It's not hard to land at all if you don't spam it.
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>>148573060
Yeah but usually I'm never that high. Really surprised me.
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Fuck hots, military coup underway in Turkey.
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>1 game away from master
>lose 8 out of the next 10 games
>demoted

ok, is the game actually so dead that i cant dodge bad players even, in diamond? sometimes i wait 30 minutes to and hour before playing again and I'll still get the same feeding shitters on my team.
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>>148574007
masters is just the same shit m8
hell Id say anything under top 200 (maybe 300 in EU) is retards
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>>148574342
how is that even possible though? is blizzards ranking system that fucking bad?

i've never played/watched starcraft, but i thought their league system actually represented the best players in the game.
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>>148574465
the ranking system favors more games played than skill/win rate
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>>148574465
No, you (and the playerbase) are that fucking bad
Unlike pretty much every other moba out there this game requires understanding of the game beyond basic mechanics and how to not stand in the middle of enemy team during teamfights.
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>>148574694
>Majority of players still forsake proper soaking in favor of just chasing people around looking for kills.

I love this game so much, but holy shit I can't stop quitting for months at a time because of how fucking stupid people are, then get themselves killed and bitch at those who don't chase around with them.
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>>148574465
Starcraft is 1v1 so you can't get carried to higher ranks than you belong in
HotS is a 5v5 where your personal performance has a tiny impact on the result of the game

Guess which ranking system is better for valuing individual performance
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>>148570646
>>148570909
Be honest, you're like 16 right?
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>>148576101
Be honest, you're autistic right?
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>Giving a shit about "E-sports"
>Giving a shit about "E-sports" casters

I will never understood. Christ, I can't even understand giving a shit about real sports and real sports casters as well. It's all load of horseshit.
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>>148576385
Most e-sports are shit

Starcraft is pretty much the only good e-sport but ofcourse it's too complicated to watch for casual fucks
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>>148572152
rof is just shitter roulette. without a setup it's not even satisfying to "land" because it has almost nothing to do with your own skill. next time it will be jaina hitting nothing and dying instantly.

>>148574007
gambler's fallacy. shitters pound games relentlessly because they can't quit.
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>>148576213
not him, but if you are indeed the author of the first referenced post then i think you'd be better off skipping the holier-than-thou way of writing your sentences
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>>148576769
Huh, so you actually are...
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>tfw you are just pushing lanes as xul
>ignore an objective that is obviously lost since we had some people dead before it even started
>silenced kharazim spends the next minute ping spamming me
>while I'm killing a keep
No problem Kharazim, just carrying you
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New portrait, dunno how you'll be able to get it.
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>>148576213
Probably, but I'm clearly not as autistic as you.
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>>148578632
Own SC2, D3:RoS and Legion, I bet.
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>>148578632
>have 10 real life bnet friends you have played hots with
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>>148578632
Play Pokemon Go. Calling it now.
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>>148579042
>good goy portrait
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Here's a Jaina code

9795-078468-70239-594972-7049
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>>148580792
I dont even want that
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>>148580792
>implying we want a free slut
Gonna have to pay me to accept that
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>>148551513
As azmodan while losing, soak back your deficit and kill structures. If you die even once in pugs ad Az, you're playing him wrong.

It is counter productive to listen to your team to group and die with them.
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>Jaina WR steadily climbing in all brackets

b-but it was a nerf you guys....
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>>148586227
Jaina buffs were lateral in that they give her a niche as the strongest mage to siege with and her ability to take camps by herself far earlier than other mages in addition to her already strong wave clear (though not quite as good as Falstad's/Kael) anyone who thought this was a nerf when these buffs happened alongside the minion changes is a retard.
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>>148586610
>picking a mage for all the reasons you dont look for in a mage
>>
>>148586227
>>148586610
>>148588445
She's a Specialist who's falsely labelled as an Assassin now.
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>>148588445
>>148589071
>Blizzard balance
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Been away from a computer that can play games for 6 months?

Is this shit dead or are people still playing it?
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>>148580792
who wants her after all the miles of orc shes had
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>>148589778
it's more alive than 6 months ago
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>>148589778
it went up for a bit with the new ranking system but its now back down to where it was, dead
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>>148589778
Big patch just hit last week or so. Lane minions now do 50% increased damage to buildings is the biggest game changing thing that happened.
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>>148589071
>she's a specialist without any of the good shit specialists get
So she's still shit
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>>148589778
Almost as dead as Evolve before it went F2P
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>>148591003
What is "the good shit" specialists get, exactly?
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>>148591274
Anal sex
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>>148591128
HOTS has a roughly active playerbase of around 250k~ according to hotslogs. This means these 250k played a single QM in the last month. This is not accounting for the sizable portion of the player base that plays strictly AI matches (there's more than you'd think)

If you think that's Evolve levels of dead, I don't know what to tell you. The dead game meme is tiring, a game is only dead if the studio abandons it. HOTS is the most frequently updated Blizzard game in their entire stable.
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>>148591523
>This is not accounting for the sizable portion of the player base that plays strictly AI matches
Those people might aswell not exist
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>>148591523
250k is extremely ded
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>>148594702
It's really not.
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>>148591523
>250k players
>across all continents
>not dead
kek
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Holy shit volleyballfu skin fucking whennnnnnnn
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>>148596920
Buy more skins it'll come faster.
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>>148565125
High level HoTS has all sorts of crazy interactions during the draft phase that won't affect 90% of games.

If you are just starting out, play a character you like and stick to QM until you get the fundamentals down
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>>148571431
Any hero that can't interrupt a single viking casting play again deserves to die.

I like the Vikings too, getting a big bribe push with Erik while the rest of the enemy team is miles away feels great
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>Don't play for a few days
>Come back today
>Lose
>lose
>Demoted

Why do I keep playing this game if I'm so bad at it?
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>>148589778
It's not huge, but there's still a dedicated community that consistently plays it

Queue times aren't that long, hero league is finally good, Blizzard is actually releasing constant balancing, etc
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>>148598054
you scoot into a bush and they think you have been spooked off, thats when you play again and rape them
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>playing abathur
>theres any illidan on my team
>oh this should be good
>hat him
>suddenly he loses all common sense, dives straight into 3 people l, diving behind towers and everything
>feeds his brains out
>lose

Hmm
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>>148599005
never trust a random illidan, the second you build a team around them is when they die 5 times and have less damage than the tassadar
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>>148594702
>>148595238
Depends on what you compare it to. Hots has a relatively large playerbase compared to most games. But compared to LoL, csgo, Dota and the likes then yeah it's small.
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>>148598268
2 qt
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>>148598220
why do you keep playing alone?
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>>148600048
I don't have friends and the /vg/ people don't want to play with me because I'm way too bad
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>>148600119
You can't be THAT bad.
I've played with a handful of silvers, and many golds.
t. silver 2 for life
Are you bronze anon-kun?
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>>148599005
That's why you go locust build regardless of having an Illidan and just copy his ass for team fights
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>>148599306
Pretty sure even Evolve has more players right now
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>>148600402
Silver 5, so yes.

Probably the worse player on the general
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>>148601770
I think that's better than half of the US players in this general
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>>148601072
and evolve was a ded game that just went f2p

it's gonna be irrelevant within a month
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>>148603863
F2p games tend to stick around even if they are bad, just look at HotS
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>>148601770
There are legit bronze players in the NA /vg/ channel.

Somehow ipwnlocks even managed to sneak into silver. Believe in yourself anon.
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>>148604150
Even masters is full of retards now, I cannot even comprehend how bad you would have to be to get into bronze.
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Anyone know how prevalent boosting is?
Could explain some of the complete retards that appear at higher ranks
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>>148565125
Lunara spreads damage out across the enemy team. Uther is bad at healing that spread damage, and kharazim is good at it.
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Don't die while I sleep
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>>148604641
When I started playing mobas like 4 years ago, my first rank ever in LoL was like silver 1. The only thing I did was play a bunch or normals and not join ranked till I was confident.
People who are bronze barely play the game and jump right into ranked and get stuck there. That's the only way you can be that bad.
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epic rank match, was about to get re-promoted to 3 but blizzard keeps putting me with the absolute worst player in the world, literally

forced, fucking, 50, i started in rank 1 silver and am really really good with all characters and look where i am now man, baka
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>>148580792

holy shit it actually works!

thanks man!
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>nice gun, compensatin' for somethin'?

>Heh, nope.
What did he mean by this?
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>>148616048
He's got a large tool.
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doing my placements, and why are xul players so fucking autistic? he began in the draft saying "omg why aba 1st pick" and "they got illidan gg", only partecipated in ONE teamfight towards the end and got all pissy when told to group with us after he feeded the whole game.

We obviously won because I was playing as the the perfectly perfect LUNARA
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>>148597945
>learning QM fundamentals
Learn how to exploit bad players with your favorite heroes on every map. That's all there is to it.
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>>148620521
>>148620521
Not happening if you have the bads.
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Fuck
You
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>>148622676
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Who's the WORST hero in the game right now?
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>>148625409
In terms of usefulness/viability, Chromie. She's not difficult to play, just extremely niche and easily fucked with.
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>>148625452
Murky isn't in his best moment neither, I would say
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>>148625409
assassins: chromie or jaina
tanks: chen
support: li li or malfurion
specialist: gazlowe
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>>148625682
50% of those aren't even bad now
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>>148625682
>Chen
>Bad

Man, that might have been tight 2 or 3 months ago, but not now
Chen is really great this patch
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>Insight Kharazim can indefinitely maintain Deadly Reach as long as he keeps hitting things now
>cooldown reductions and heals out the ass without any mana issues whatsoever
This is kinda fun.
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>>148625682
Gaz isn't that bad, just unorthodox. But at least he has some flexibility in his skills. Can go for more teamfight or merc/boss shit. Or a mix, is a legit as well. I may have been very lucky with him--I don't even own him. But he's pretty chill to play. A less intense Sylvanas.

Chen is solid but eats shit if they focus their stuns for you. But at least that gives room for your allies.

Lili is terrible. Malf isn't that bad.

Agreed on Chromie and Jaina, both suck ass.
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>>148625682
>tanks: chen
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>>148625682
>He thinks any panda is bad
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>>148625409
Hammer, Cho'Gall, Butcher
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FROM THE DEPTHS I COME
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>>148625682
Jaina has 54.4% winrate in Diamond upwards since the latest build. The sample size is ok-ish with roughly 6500 recorded matches.

If you hate that hero, that's one thing, but calling her bad after this patch, that is just stupid.
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>>148627991
>pre patch she was known and agreed to be literal game-losing garbage
>post patch she gets nerfed and now some people like her
nah
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>>148628221
your single, mangled word sure does a lot to further your argument.

Whatever floats your boat.
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>>148628419
>waifufag gets btfo
>uh...whatever you think! ;_;
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>>148628419
>I can't read basic English please rape my face
(you)
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>>148628464
>>148628553
Greentexting and insults won't change numbers.
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>>148439879
>Master
ETC, Abathur, Chromie, Stitches

>Seasonal
none

>Other
Iron Butcher, Ranger General Sylvanas, Blood Elf Tyrande, Kaiju Diablo, Storm Lord Falstad
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Nice typo at the bottom, Blizzard. :^)
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>>148628669
Each post number is different so yea it does change numbers. Your attitude and logic show you're new here.
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>>148629621
Anyone getting 'left mouse button' then left click to ping?
Very not understand.
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>>148625409
Rexxar

He's just a failure of a hero all around
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>Morales and Illidan are banned more often than Xul

?????
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>>148630282
>Let's them pick Morales and Illidan what could go wrong?

Suddenly your entire team is dead
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>>148630365
>Morales has to follow Illidan into the fight
>Focus her

Gee that was difficult
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>>148630772
Stim.
Morales only needs to be near at the very start of the fight then the dong is a whirlwind of death.
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>>148631118
Illidan still dies in 1 second then. Stim doesn't do shit for his survivability. Morales is a mediocre support for Illidan.
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>>148625409
Rexxar has shit damage, probably the reason why his Misha Ult can last nearly forever since even a mage with a penetrating skill show can fuck with him.

Otherwise Chromie.
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>>148631617
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>>148632490
*tips non-auto-attack-damage*
nothing personnel
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>>148630365
Illidan is garbage right now as is Morales.

They don't even work together.
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>>148632949
I don't think it's Illidan, I think it's the majority of players think he's a front line dive in style assassin and end up dying and blaming team. He's pretty good if you properly play him.
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>>148633237
You can say the same about every hero. But that is true about Illidon't. Some guy on my friend list loves Greymeme yet they constantly dive in recklessly and chase so hard every game. They even say they're getting better at him--I think we're getting better at playing around him.
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>>148633237
The way to properly play him is as bruiser soaking dmg.

How are you supposed to play him if you don't go in? Might aswell go Greymane then. He's a strictly better Illidan right now.
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>>148633378
Illidan is more sustainable solo but good luck in this game. He should see more shine in this patch of 'PvE: fuck objectives and fuck teamfights'
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>>148627449
anub is a powerful undead crypt lord nerubian. he is not cute. fear him!
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>>148630282
"ban morales" is the ultimate bronzie strategy
seriously it's fucking ridiculous how often she's banned in low level games because people seem to think she's this all-powerful healer

that statement is only surpassed in bronzieness by "focus morales/dont focus tank"
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>>148439879
Master
None

Seasonal
None but imma get sylvanas and rehgar next christmas.

Everything else.
Wrath sonya, lava thrall skin, storm lord Falstad (got this one for free),
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how is blizzard so incompetent to release a patch with this many bugs
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Nerf Medivh, cockblocker on such a low cooldown and way too much mobility.
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>>148633315
>>148633378
>>148633520
Like I said, It's usually the player not Illidan. Just did this game. I stayed top lane til 10 for ult to soak + dragon shire. Only switched towards level 13 to go to bottom and started actually team fighting. Died once to trying to 1v3 a Falstad, Chromie, and ETC. Killed the Chromie only. Just pick your fight right and Illidan is quite good.
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>>148636814
Still surprised I rarely see him. He's sleeper broken.
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>>148636814
How is he broken?
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>>148637143
>1.5s immune on 5s cd placeable on any ally including self
That alone tells it. But all of his other skills are godly. Usually heroes have an imbalance in how good their skills are. Say 2 great skills, 1 shit skill and 1 good heroic and 1 niche heroic.

Medivh is great all-round.

I don't understand the meme of "he's difficult to play" either. You have a skill-shot spammable damage skill, a god-tier shield and a fantastic portal that lasts eternity. Heroic is a "fuck you and your teamfight while my team slaughters you all"
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>>148636834
>jaina still feeding
She's good now! GOOD!
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>>148636834
>tfw tyrande will never sit on your face
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>>148632949
>they don't work together
Explain how
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>>148639113
>g-g-guise she's picked more than before! dat must mean she gud!
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>kerrigan has high wr
What did they do to her?
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>>148639549
Morales needs to go in to heal Illid exposing herself, she doesn't have any big cds to keep Illi alive.

He doesn't need steady healing but big bursts like Ancestral or Divine Shield to save him from burstdmg alltogether.

Buffing his dmg with stim is ueseless since he'll just get bursted out of this world.
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>>148640662
all around buffs, but especially her bulk
she has more HP and her shields last longer, meaning it'sexponentially easier to survive now
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>this level 7 talent on medivh
Makes his Q damage output fucking nuts
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this thread is full of gayboys
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>>148641254
lol, if you need healing as Illidan and expect Morales, or any healer, to come to you in the middle of the enemy team, you're fucking garbage and should just uninstall. If you take lethal amounts of burst damage as Illidan it is likely the same. Learn when to fucking disengage and don't expect healers to kiss the ground you are walking on, if anything it should be the other way around. Especially Morales, especially as Illidan.

Your posts sound like you just played Illidan for the first time, lost hard and now you're venting your frustration because he isn't a 2v5 win 100% of the time and overextending doesn't exist for him
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>5 supports team, /vg/ only
>win by a landslide
jesus christ, why are meme comps so fun and effective
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>>148643804
hey mang, sorry for fucking up the matchmaking queue by using smurf acc
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>>148643631
Uther, Rehgar, BW or Kharazim don't have to expose themselves idiot. They are not required to channel shit onto you, they can either jump in heal you and jump out again or just press one button to keep you up.

>hurr learn when to disengage
Yeah great idia, let's play this hero that needs an entire team built around him and then take a healer that doesn't work with him. Qing in and then R or W out right away is surely the way you're supposed to play Illidan.

If nobody on the enemy team is out of position you are exposing yourself when you go in and Morales won't be able to keep you up. Ergo they don't work together and your first point about how they are so strong as team is retarded garbage.

Both of them are weak and they are even weaker together.
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>playing medivh
>placing portals next to idiots who dove way too deep
>they don't use them and just try to run away
>people constantly diving way too deep into the enemy team
I LOVE WEEKEND HOTS
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>>148644229
>If nobody on the enemy team is out of position you are exposing yourself when you go in

>hurr, let's dive into this perfectly positioned team as Illidan
wow, just wow
okay, how about instead of learn to disengage, in your case it should be learn how and when to engage, you literally just confirmed what I said about you thinking that Illidan is a 1man army that can dive into EVERYTHING

>Yeah great idia, let's play this hero that needs an entire team built around him and then take a healer that doesn't work with him.
If you think Illidan needs the perfect setup, you clearly don't know how to play him, he only needs a team, not a team specifically built around him. It helps, but that can be said for every hero in the game, you cannot argue with that.

>Qing in and then R or W out right away is surely the way you're supposed to play Illidan.
learn when to engage, if you need to disengage right away, wtf were you doing?! He can't solo 3 people

>Ergo they don't work together and your first point about how they are so strong as team is retarded garbage.
nigger, Illidan and Morales is one of the stronges combos, used even in the pro-scene, literally

>Both of them are weak and they are even weaker together.
like a fucking child

Every single one of your arguments can not only be refuted, but also comes from nothing else except your personal dislike for this combo and the heroes themselves. Just because you repeat words that articulate Illidan and Morales as a bad combo in whatever combination doesn't make it real.
Wake up
Get over it
There are people out there that like things you don't, and that's okay
and maybe they even do it for a reason?
The universe doesn't revolve around you and your personal preferences
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Decaying MMR and ranks when? They need to start decaying if you haven't played for 3 days
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>>148646979
>3 days
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When will Blizzard add a seperate queue for people who only play on weekends?
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I found pinging "Assist" on the ground where the portal is to get their attention. Usually if I shield them with W they know i'm nearby increases the likeliness of using the portal by a fuckton
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>>148646843
>used in the pro-scene
When? When was the last time they did well? Weeks ago? Months ago? They are both not doing well in this meta, they are both shit now. But I'm sure if you disengage well everything will come into place. You should take medivac so the dreamteam of illidan and Morales can disengage even better together.

>learn to disengage
What a great hero. You can't go in if the enemy team is positioned well but you sure are a champ at disengaging. Know what else you could play? Greymane. He isn't useless, doesn't need all stars to align so he can go in and he actually gets kills.

>le disengage
Sure thing, disengaging is winning every fight. Look at pros and how often they disengage, we all should disengage much more often.

No wonder I'm not Grandmaster yet. I'm not disengaging enough.
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>>148646979
>3 days
What? Maybe losing 1 - 0.5 MMR a day for the first month then after a month it ramps it up considerably.
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>>148647758
looks like I hit a nerve. Out of arguments already, so you have to try and mock me? There are easier ways to admit that you were wrong, but I'll take
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>>148648147
Tell me when was the last time Illidan or morales did good in the pro-scene?
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>>148644229
>Yeah great idia, let's play this hero that needs an entire team built around him

That's literally how pro teams like Dignitas and Liquid play Kerrigan though (even with yet ANOTHER factor in play that complicates things!). You're fucking stupid if you think there's no place in the game for overly specific team comps.
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>>148648647
You should finish the sentence, here let me help you.

>and then take a healer that doesn't work with him.
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>>148648819
>Morales doesn't work with Illidan

What you meant to post was

>hurr durr Morales' W doesn't even do anything hurr im fuckign mentally challenged durr
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>>148648970
Great arguing. If they are so strong it shouldn't be hard to find a recent pro game with them played right?

Hell make it even easier, find me a game where they were banned, that should be easy right? They're so strong after all.
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>someone picks Cho'Gall, thinks their opinion on the game is relevant
>they try to lane against Tychus and still think anything they have to say matters
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>>148648253
Illidan was played less because he was banned out of many games this summer championship, MVP Black vs Tempest had an Illidan ban, Tempest vs X-Team had two Illidan picks, mYinsanity vs Fnatic had a ban and a pick, he's in every other game

check this site if you don't believe me (which you won't because you're a fucking crybaby)
>http://www.gosugamers.net/heroesofthestorm
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>>148649241
see >>148649452
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>>148649647
see >>148649452
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This Illidonger is still mad hours later.
Morales is a fine match with him.
>>148631118 <-- this sums it up.
Any support is fine really. The dong should only go in when he can go in. YES DISENGAGING IS A SKILL YOU SHOULD LEARN.
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>>148649920
If DISENGAGE is so great why don't we see more pro teams do it? If it's so great then how come running away doesn't win matches?
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>>148650083
are you perchance confusing disengaging with retreating
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>>148650137
Mayhaps you think they are not synonymous like a true plebe?
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>>148650083
>why don't we see pro teams disengage
>how is staying alive going to help win a game
Doctor, I have the diagnosis complete.
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>>148650242
or mayhaps i know the difference between the two terms because i'm not a shitter
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>>148650368
>you
>not a shitter

Choose one.
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>>148649452
Went through the work to go through all the finals and second groupstage of Dreamhack and the entire ESL euro tournnament.

Not a single game both are played together. Illi gets played with Rehgar, Kharazim and/or Tass, Morales gets played with Greymane and Thrall. Not once they are together.

Recent EU tournament similar. Illi gets played with Tass, BW, Khara or Uther, Morales doesn't get played at all.

Not once are they together, you are arguing they are so strong. I'm arguing other healers work better for him and they are a shit combo.

Now neither of those tournaments went with the most recent patches.
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>>148650563
And with newest patch Illidan has literally the lowet winrate out of ANY picked hero in tournaments.

An imposing 25% winrate, wow.

Morales doesn't even get picked.
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>>148650440
i'm sitting at rank 2 and illidan/morales is still a fairly popular combo, but since you're so insistent on being a snide shitter please illustrate how there's so little difference between retreating and disengaging
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>>148650563
>other healers work better for him
sure
>they are a shit combo.
no
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>>148650860
Alright let's argue they are great combo only every other healer but Lili makes for a better combo with Illidan.
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WHo's a good anti-tank hero?

Tired of my teams just focus firing tanks all the time, so I'm looking for someone I can use to disable/shred the tank so I can go "Okay, the tank's dead/out of the fight, focus someone else now."
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what are some "high" kill cap/high reward heroes? i'm thinking of getting gut with Rex

>>148651451
Tychus
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>>148651451
Tychus, Valla, Lunara, Leoric, Thrall, Raynor.

>>148651557
Rexxar, Vikings.
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>>148651451
tychus
if you opt for the "the bigger they are" talent on level 4, his passive will easily be dealing 120+ AA damage on any tank early game

even without that talent his passive tears through tanks naturally
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>>148651451
>Tychus
>press D to uninstall tank.exe from enemy team
>Leoric
>press W to gently squeeze 25-30% HP off for free
>Xul
>requires a specific build to work but can rip apart tanks pretty well

>>148651557
>Gul'dan
>Nazeebo
>Vikings (duhhh)
>Tyrael if you don't spec him as a pure tank
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>>148651812
>>148651705
>>148651694
>>148651557
>Tychus
>Tychys
>Tychus
>Tychus
He's really the best anti-big guy hero, especially against anyone who still plays Cho'Gall.
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>>148651451
Lunara with Wild Vigor and Giant Killer rips tanks apart and so does Thrall with Folllow Through and GK.
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>>148653348
>2016
>still falling for the Follow Through meme
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>>148599306
>Compared to the biggest games on the planet it's small

What kind of logic is this?
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>>148654936
but he didnt talk about pokemon go
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>>148628221
Jaina being a suboptimal pick compared to other assassins is a fact.

Jaina being an instant throw at the draft screen is a meme.

Learn the difference, it could save your life.
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>>148655169
>intentionally picking sub-par is not throwing
Also learn how people here speak, retard.
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>>148655345
>intentionally picking sub-par is not throwing

Most people don't play this way and the numbers don't lie, you're far more likely to lose with a moron playing Li-Ming than someone playing Jaina on your team regardless of your tier.

But yeah, I'll throw a few more senpaitachi and keks in for you next time you fucking troglodyte.
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>>148655169
>outperformed by every single assassin in the game
>no unique value for her team
>not a throw
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>>148655523
>le numbers
Another retard. No shit a hero is going to be picked a lot more after a patch that changed said hero.
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>you can't take devouring maw and endless creep anymore on zagara
BULL
FUCKING
SHIT
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>>148655593
Jaina regardless of her state in the game has always had a healthy play rate. She has never not been in the top 25 most played heroes.

This is not some case of Rexxar where there's a massive variance of winrates because only 20 people play her.

Let me make it abundantly clear, Jaina is currently the 7th most played hero with a healthy 50.7% winrate. A 53% winrate in Master/Diamond while still being in the Top 20. Your tummyfeels towards Jaina are not supported by reality, sorry m8.
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>>148655850
Zagara is only made for split-pushing, anon ;^)

>>148655868
Nice change of goal-post. Also there's other variables other than viability for pick rate.
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How exactly does Tassadar's "Attack get slow effect talent" effect his attack?

If this talent just made his attacks slow I'd take it more often, but it adds that channeled attack shit, that seems to cause him to pursue less efficiently.

Also they really need to add a timer for his freebie phase shift.
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>>148655941
>Nice change of goal-post. Also there's other variables other than viability for pick rate.

In what way? The argument was always "Jaina is an instant throw!" which is not supported by anything other than memes. Maybe this thread will one day understand that competitive viability is a million miles away from what the game is actually like and what is viable at standard levels of play.
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>>148655169
>Doesn't know Jainia is a wombo combo character

Do you also solo que Butcher?
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>"I main Jaina"
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>>148650083

They have Tyrael, Uther and Medivh backing them up. You have Murky and Gazlowe.
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Why is Gazlowe still so bad?
What makes him so horrible? Would he be good if he was ranged?
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>>148657343
Faster lazer charge should be baseline. Rework a shit ton of his talents. What makes him so bad is that his whole kit revolves around people standing in his shit (Turrets, Grav-O combo, his E if he doesn't have Grav-O), combine this with the fact that he can't manually aim his turrets without Robo, the ult that has no team-fight usage until 20, and he's all around just shit compared to someone with more direct damage, considering everything has a fucking speed boost or escape at this point, and even then you can see his shit coming from a mile away, because Gazlowe is entirely predictable.

Also, everyone shits AoE damage in this game now as well, so his turrets just melt to a bunch of non-dorected bullshit. Overall he's just countered by any sort of more modern hero design (As opposed to the oldschool OG characters from Alpha) and flat out awareness.
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>>148657343
Because he is played by shitters who dont set up on objs early.
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>>148657343
meta moved on and old heroes are universally terrible compared to newer ones. Gaz was always terrible but now he's extra terrible because of that.
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I like this new "gazlowe is shit" meme
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>>148658668
The only thing new around here is you.

Gazlowe has always been an underdog.
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>>148658668
It's not a meme and Gazlowe has been shit since Alpha. Get a grip on reality, shitter.
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>go on 5 game winning streak
gee I wonder what's going to happen ne-
>gul'dan with literally 0 assists and takedowns who quits after 11 minutes
>lose the next minute
gee that was totally unexpected

oh well, onto the next game
>their team has illidan and abathur, my team has diablo, tracer, muradin, abathur and me (raynor)
>another 13 minute game
lololololol I can't believe there are still idiots who believe the matchmaking isn't rigged
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>>148659232
>qm
LOL
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>>148660519
yeah because hero league is so much better

>win more than you lose
>rank down
wow os much fun
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Wait, where am I going?

Oh nevermind!
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the..... familiar..................
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Is Raynor good?
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>>148662340
yeah but he's very boring too

you also need to know how to position yourself properly since you have no escapes (your heal is okay but it's not going to save you if you get crammed into a corner)
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>>148662512
dude it's literally AA until thing dies
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NEW NEW
>>148662994
>>148662994
>>148662994
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>>148662006
Hello? Xul? Are you okay there, buddy?
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I haven't seen a Gaz since beta, I even forgot he was a character till just now.
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