/dsg/ - Souls General

>>148295979
i didn't lose but it's kinda hard when cyka blyat teleporting around
plus hyper armor starts earlier if they have higher latency

>>148296127
You still fucking high defense bonuses from the heavy armor + the vitality stat

>I have less stamina

If your stamina isn't around 124 then you don't.

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>it's a can't enter the boss room as a phantom episode

>>148296392
>it's a "can't enter the boss room as a purple" season
Fucking dropped

>>148296346
If you run 124 stamina at 120 you have low stamina to begin with.

Almost everyone runs the generic 39/40/40/40 build which with RoF+2, you'll have 177 stamina, just like I do.

>>148296346
Base defense from vitality is also downscaled.

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Is profaned GS unparryable or something?

>>148296767
>running more than 20 END
Yare yare daze.

Base vitality defense is downscaled but the effectiveness of the armor and some of the vitality's defense is still there. The game doesn't prevent you from wearing full Smoughs at 99 VIT, but it won't downscale the armor and all of the vitality.

>>148296767
>Base defense from vitality is also downscaled.
Negligibly.

>>148296781
Two handed ultra greatswords cannot be parried except running and rolling attacks, the AGS' rolling attack cannot be parried.

>>148296918
What the hell do you do, just make two hits see whether or not you hit your target, then run away for a couple seconds for your stamina to regenate?

Hyperdefensive duelists are cringeworthy. Get more stamina and be more aggressive

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>2KAT
LMAO

>>148297205
nice job abusing infinite

Why is Darkdrift so bad?

>>148297075
>you can't be aggressive on 20 END
t. shitter

>drake is sl 212
>doing only 659 damage with FUGS and 66 strength

how? i'm 98 with a heavy great club and doing almost 700 damage every hit. does being summoned also downscale damage along with HP?

>>148297274
I'm not even in the FC right now, what are you talking about?

But yeah, my damage is downscaled a ton.

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POST CUTE AND HAPPY THINGS

>>148297274
It only downscales your weapon's base/scaling to the same enhance level as the host. If the host is +10 then there's no damage downscaling.

FUGS is hot trash, even with hardcapped strength

Debating making a dedicated sunbro for DaS2 just to help lowbies body the Pursuer.

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THEY STILL USE THE SHITSTOC

LMAO

>>148297337
i just saw your post from a while ago. i never join fc's so i was confused as to why you were doing piss damage

how much do you do normally?

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>bitch about the BKG
>try it unupgraded for the whole night
>won all my matches
I guess I should just make a pyro to freshen things up, pvp is too broken for me now that almost everyone uses it. Not even DS2 was this bad.

>>148297260
No damage, it's uninfusable, it's WA is shit and the ability to pierce shields doesn't actually help it that much

>>148297274
I recently read somewhere STR downscales to the host's STR stat. BTW is FC still going? Host said he'd stop when last thread died so I assumed so

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>>148297361

>>148297417
Against someone my level? Shit damage again, because everyone pumps vit and wears full Havels.

If I'm using the BKGA, maybe ~790ish with the 2-hit combo aginst havels

>>148297408
>buffed caestus
crying laughing emoji

>>148297408
>HE STILL USES INFINITE ABUSE

>>148297450
its lore description is badass but the actual weapon itself is shit

>>148297453
>mirini
w0t

>>148297536
>INFINITE

?

>>148297704
,

xth for 212!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1

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>>148297361
Cute!

fug senpai I just got to the Soul of Cinder and when I got to the second phase and those octaves kicked in my heart sank

What's a good boss to just drop your sign, sit back, and help out fuckin' everyone at?

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>>148297453
i love and hate dan so much.

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>can only make 10 character files

i want to keep playing but i don't want to go into NG+ yet. i want all of my characters to go through both of the dlcs first

i dont wanna pvp either

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>>148297205
F*CKING 2 KAT ROFL

>>148298010
>another infinite abuser

>>148297938
Oceiros is pretty good.

>>148298054
whats the infinite?

>>148298125
l1 r2 l2 r2

What's worse

ganksquads

Or using CE to beat ganksquads

>>148298258
both are pretty cancerous, but cheating will always be worse

>>148297453
I appreciate that they started making summonable NPC's that only exist to be summoned, makes me wish DS3 had some with some personality

>>148298125
With cestus:
L1R2L1L1
With demon fist:
L1R2L2R2

They aren't infinites, but they're ridiculously high damage stunlock

>>148297453
Who drew this

>>148298214
i dont think you know what that word means.

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>>148298214
>double punch into heavy punch into perseverance into heavy punch

you're a shitter who dosent even know how the weapon works.

why is thread ded?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FCa8OcqfAoc

the power....... of from balance......

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>>148299017
Hours

>>148299027
I have to say, it's some poppin' editing.

im making a morne's hammer character.

with the 30 faith, is there a miracle that's useful in pvp?

>>148298759
perseverence is to scare them

works 100% of the time

Is there a single sword that's better than Sunlight Straight Sword?

I'm thinking probably, but damn if it doesn't feel nice buffing your buddies without any of that pussy miracle shit.

>>148299027
woah...been using caestus since prebuff and i didn't know that was possible.

>>148299467
In terms of pure AR it might be the highest. It was the highest AR sword in 1 and 2 at least.

>>148299017
Because game is dead. Nobody with any right sense is still playing DS3.

>>148299610
i enjoy being senseless, then

>>148299467
The buff is shit. Gotthard is better and Draksword is still more damaging

>>148299610
What are you playing?

>Broken Souls
>Backstab Souls
>Warped Sword Souls
>Nevereverborne and the war of Ayys vs Chikage

>>148299776
Dual swords is for women and Darksword's heavy attack is the wimpiest animation ever.

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>>148299818

>>148299279
No.
None of the offensive miracles do damage without at least 40 (more like 60) and none of the buffs work in pvp because Patches is in charge of balance.

>>148297453
Is 1 INT even possible in das2? I haven't played it.

>>148299818
Chikage is mid tier :^

>>148299953
neato

>>148299954
i wish there was more replayability to dragon's dogma

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>>148300132
That doesn't stop everyone from using it

>>148297260
it's a DaS2 weapon and it's not even one of the rare interesting ones

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>>148299027
LITRIALLY BETTER THAN THE PREPATCH BKGA COMBO

>>148300367
>tfw just going to shit on all these bandwagoners with my halberds and spears
have fun

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>>148300176
i wish there was more replayability to dark souls 3

>>148300367
>pick up fist weapons
>turns into meme cancer overnight

fuck

>win so many fights in a fiteclub i get killed by the hosts fuckboi using hacks

cool

>>148300446
there would be if i could have more than 10 character files

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>>148300446
I wish NG+ was better

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>>148300474
>that feel when I ruined my own win streak in a fight club because I was using duels to farm shackles for mound makers and went back to my world.

>>148299027
I have no idea how he connect demon fist combo after R2.
>impossible to hit anyone because no range and no ha
>90% of time host roll after R2 or you fail L2 after R2 L1
WHAT'S THE TRICK?

Does Ring of the Sun's First Born boost Lightning Blade etc? I don't know why it wouldn't but for some odd reason I seem to remember that in the first DaS it didn't or something. I'm probably very wrong though.

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>>148300618
It would be if I could have more than 3 builds.

>tfw no Sanctum Mace
>tfw no fun weapons at all

>>148300750
Damage-boosting rings don't affect buffs.

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I'm scared, lads.

I'm 99% sure the frog thing is on the other side of this fog.

I am truly terrified. I hate watching animations about games before playing them.

>>148300806
stop being such a cynical whiner

>>148300832
All right. Thank you!

>>148300839
It's one of the easiest bosses in the game, only Covetous Demon is more trivial.

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>>148300839
Good aesthetic design wasted on meh move set.
Spotted whip in DS2 is lethal as fuck though, it'll poison hella fast and poison actually means something in that game.

>>148301176
>memeing on peope with rat ring and double powerstanced spotted whips
can't have any weapon or build variety in ds3 tho no siree :)

>Knight Set in Dark Souls 1
>Knight armor, the original body is found in darkroot basin
>Knight Set in Dark Souls 2
>Knight armor, looted at Heide Tower of Flame
>Knight Set in Dark Souls 3
>Nameless Knight Set, looted from what appears to be the original body in Farron Keep
Nani?

>>148300951
YOU LIED TO ME

I DIED IN TWO HITS WHAT THE FUCK

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>>148300872
>hype game up to be grand finale and promise game to be fine send-off to the series
>get average game with completely broken online
>"Stop whining be fucking grateful"
ITS HAPPENED AGAIN

>>148300825
Crescent axe is the most fun weapon in the game, go use it.

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>>148301308
>let cynicism affect your subjective view on things
>get shit every time
Amazing

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>>148301308
you made me do this

Ranking of the SOULS games based on what they have or don’t have compared to the other titles
Das3 > Das1 > Des > Das2
Das3
Pros:
>best gameplay ( weapon arts)
>best bosses, bosses with two phases
>boss music changes with the phases
>best graphics (blood splatter)
>offers different interpretations to the lore
>DLC’s will only make it better
Cons:
>worst poise
>worst covenants
>able to summon people at any level with a password
Dark Souls
Pros:
>best characters
>best music
>best poise
>best covenants
>best DLC (as of now)
Cons:
>need a mod to play properly
>too many bosses that turn into normal enemies
>worst aesthetic
Demon’s Souls
Pros:
>best aesthetic
>best enemies
>best level design
Cons:
>30 fps
>can only be played on a 7th gen console
>world tendency
Das2
Pros:
>power stance and offhand moveset
>best NG+
>bonfire ascetics
Cons:
>worst control
>worst bosses
>worst level design
>enemies with tracking
>charged for a complete edition with separate servers
>weapons degrade faster when played at 60 fps
>SOUL MEMORY

now shut up

>>148301223
>mfw using binoculars to aim Sunlight Spears at people in the water in Doors of Pharros while they fight mobs

i want to go back

>>148301257
stupidity is a factor, friend

>>148301374
>same moveset as everything else in its class except has warcry running instead

that's not very exciting at all

>>148301492
>you made me do this
Do what? Copy and paste some old shitty pasta?

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so these all get good scaling with any kind of elemental infusion?

>>148301227
Knight Armor is mass-produced standard fare for low-ranking warrior caste all across the Dark Souls world.

It's the kind of shit the buttmonkeys at the garrison would buy because they don't come from a family that could afford the good stuff.

>>148301526
You're not very exciting.


Go back to sliding around in your unity game.

>>148301492
>weapons degrade faster when played at 60 fps
It is currently the 13th of May in the year 2016, Anon. Stop lying, or start including launch issues of the other titles too.

>>148301492
>best gameplay (weapon arts)
they're 90% shit
>best bosses
most shitty joke bosses in the series and the real bosses aren't hard or well designed
>muh grafix
fuck off

aside from the better animations and graphics Dark Souls 3 has nothing going for it

>>148301709
>13th of May

It's July, anon. Stop being dumb

>>148301709
July*
The fuck did I write May for.

ay yo so how's this for an idea to sort of make UG weapons kind of viable:
>If you roll, but the entire duration of the roll has you touching the weapon, you still take damage
Could be particularly useful for weapons whose entire moveset is literally a downward slam

>>148301674
But what changed between 1/2 and 3 that made it into the Nameless Knight armor? Why is the corpse of the original DaS1 owner still in Darkroot/Farron Keep?

>>148301729
I bet you're going to
>imply
that powerstancing was better, or that the million bosses in 2 composed almost entirely of forgettable beings was better

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post fun

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>>148301729
not only is that wrong, but what would you prefer? no weapon arts at all? there inclusion did nothing but add depth for the gameplay

Das2 had the most shitty joke bosses, and that second point is fucking retarded. don't talk about things you clearly dont understand

is graphical fidelity not a valid point? grow up

>>148301729
What the fuck is your idea of a 'good' boss

if you mention literally anything from DaS1 your opinion is automatically invalid.

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>>148301932

someone in the last thread asked about good souls youtubers. I like MrIwont4get because he's very objective and not annoying. He's been doing weapon showcases since das1 and his videos are pretty helpful if you're looking for a weapon to pick up.

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>>148300825
>No Santier's Spear
>No Bone fist
>No fun
>Not ever

>>148302165
depends on what you want. Vaati may be a lying asshole but he makes the best lore vids

>>148302092
>I'm going to ask a question and if you mention anything from a specific game I'll just dismiss your opinion because I don't have an actual argument

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What are some good weapons to use in low-level invasions?

I'm still using the Warden Twinblades buffed with Carthus Rouge to get some decent damage but I'm starting to get bored of it.

Ideally I'd like to stick around SL35. Anything you guys recommend trying?

Pic related is my current build.

>>148302224
farron greatsword is fun

>>148301879
They call it Nameless Knight because the set the Knight class starts the game with is already called the Knight set

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>>148302289
>he was actually going to name a DaS1 boss
>it was probably going to be one of the three okay bosses in the whole game

>>148301879
>>148301959
powerstancing would be great with the improved flow of combat, as would having access to the full moveset in the offhand, and 2handed parries

and i would rather have anything than literal joke bosses like Abyss Watchers, Yhorm, Wyvern, Deacons, Sage, Vordt, Greatwood, Wolnir, Oceiros and Aldrich

that's most of the fucking bosses in the game and none of them have any depth at all

i'm not at all implying dark souls 2 was all good bosses at all, but fuck at least it made up for its shit bosses with more content and decent items

>Nameless accursed undead, unfit even to be cinder
>One of the first things you do is give yourself a name

Vaati will explain it.

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>>148302289
>>148302442

both of you are fucking stupid. the worst bosses of Das1 or Das3 are only considered the worst because they're boring.

The worst bosses of Das2 were not only boring, but frustrating from how poorly designed they were, and there were a lot of them.

>>148302289
No it's because mentioning anything from DaS1 is automatically a given.

Come up with something else more creative than O&S

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>>148302450
>the following bosses are joke bosses because I said so
>DaS2 having nonstop shitty bosses is okay because it was followed by shitty content, shitty levels, shitty enemies, shitty texturing, shitty everything, because it was a longer game

>>148302372
Farron Greatsword's two handed L1 is fun, the rest of it's moveset is just sort of ok
I know making new movesets is hard but would it have killed them to spice them up just a little bit

>>148302553
>Nameless accursed Undead
>you literally start nameless and have to give yourself one
Story checks out.

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>>148301932
>>148302123
>the only thing to be found fun in Dark Souls III is lying down

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>>148300367
>>148299027
hmmmm....only seems to work some of the time, done about 10 duels and only been able to pull it off once, with eveyone else rolling out after the R2.

>>148302450
>joke bosses
>abyss watchers
>oceiros
>aldrich

look at this guy, he's so edgy and cool thinking everything sucks!

why don't you pull your head out of your ass, stop being such a cynical bitch, and explain to us how those bosses are "literal" joke bosses- if you can

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>>148302725
Latency? It's possible to backstab someone from the front and do the animation twice because of latency alone.

I've done it twice

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>>148301492
>worst control
bruh git gud

Dark Souls 2 is just an amalgamation of levels that I fucking hate and the only good ones are in the DLC.

Fucking hell whoever designed the Shrine of Amana needs to get curbstomped.

That entire area is just game design diarrhea.

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>>148301932
from that cosplay event a while ago

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>>148301932

>>148302450
>aren't well designed
>joke bosses
>powerstancing garbage
DS2 shill

>>148302780
>Abyss Watchers
stunlock or chain backstab me: the boss
>Oceiros
stand near my engorged ballsack and give them a smack: the boss
>Aldrich
you better hit me so i teleport before i can do my only attack that can kill you: the boss

i'm cynical because after 4 fucking games they should've been able to do at least something right in their final entry, but nope

maybe i'm expecting too much out of not the first, but the SECOND cheap cashgrab sequel

>>148302961
Just use a bow.

Dragonrider bow demolishes any sort of difficulty in that area, as does Rebel's Greatshield.

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>>148302994

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>>148302994
fat bois

>>148303245
Name your epic "well designed" bosses and I will say epic memes about them

>>148302994
someone cosplayed R L stine and Smuph
Anyone got the pics I didn't save em

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>>148301932
fun

>>148303245
I don't know, if you seek problems they'll find you man.

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>>148302123
Nice pic anon

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>>148303245
just stop, the more you post the more you come across as a pathetic, joyless loser that no one wants to be around. You can oversimplify and trivialize ANYTHING with the amount of pessimism that's leaking out of your mouth.

and Das3 is not a cash grab, it's an attempt to un-fuck the fuck-ups of Das2, the biggest of which being it's existence. Not only that, but it serves as the final farewell for the series, after this there will never be another dark souls game again.

quit being such an unbelievable little bitch who can most likely only derive fun from rose colored classes and a hipster-esque attitude

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>>148301932

>>148301959
>not only is that wrong, but what would you prefer? no weapon arts at all? there inclusion did nothing but add depth for the gameplay
>removing 2h parries added depth to the gameplay

>STILL trying to defend dark souls 3
LOL

>>148303612
>after this there will never be another dark souls game again

thank fucking god

i hope their next games flop and they get bought out by Activision

>>148303782
sorry i meant 2*

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>>148303734
I remember a host at Pontiff who started a free for all with their passworded buddy. Was pretty fun, never see stuff like that 99% of the time.

Also, has any one tried Crescent Moon Sword with the INT patch? Was figuring I'd do a sorcerer character and I need /fa/

>>148303612
>and Das3 is not a cash grab
>"DUDE DARK SOULS 1 LMAO" the game, preying entirely on nostalgiafags' wallets with next to zero original content worth mentioning

I bet you pre-ordered and are desperately struggling to rationalize your decision in hindsight.

>>148303761
dearie me, how dreadful, such a huge loss, oh how would all of the weapon arts even compare? i am simply beside myself with grief

woe is me

>>148303782
>>148303856
so edgy and contrarian

>>148303904
>oh how would all of the weapon arts even compare?
I know, right? Most of them are dogshit and shared across an entire weapon class or two.
Also why do people keep calling them "weapon arts"? The English localization just calls them Skills.

>>148303976
it's not nice to call people names :-(

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>>148303902
Dark Souls 2 was a cash grab.
To be honest, both two and three are Bamco's gold mines at it again, BB/DeS/DaS are much more hearty than 2 or 3.

There should've never been sequels.

Either way, 2 is shit, 3 falls back on the other two entries to help support itself, regardless of
>le ebin greentext oversimplification meme

And we're all the fools here.

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>>148303902

wow! retards are still confused as to what pandering is! it's not like we've been over this before!

let's make it clear then, my little cum guzzling faggot. referencing countries, equipment, and previous characters from the same universe in a sequel is not pandering. wouldn't it be a little strange if there was no mention of darth vader in the latest star wars?

the only things that served no purpose was andre and the morion blade.

>>148303612
>You can oversimplify and trivialize ANYTHING with the amount of pessimism that's leaking out of your mouth.
You realize you're doing the same to the game you don't like, right?

>fromsoft has had to balance a bunch of combos and stunlocks
>its still a problem
>all because they won't add poise

I wish BB never existed

>>148304096
Trying to do something new is objectively less of a cashgrab than riding on the nostalgia of the first game with no legs of its own to stand on.
>le ebin greentext oversimplification meme
You're the one oversimplifying all sequels as cashgrabs.

>>148304141
no, i'm not. the only post i made regarding the bosses of Das2 is >>148302569 which is non arguable.

and by the way, i like Das2. it's just the worst souls game

>>148304139
DaS2 had references to DaS1.
DaS3 has a literal zone from DaS1 copy-pasted into it for MUH FEELS.

Which one of these is pandering?

>>148303901

it scales better off of Dex than Int, but a Magic Clutch ring will help it's damage. So, if you pump Dex to improve your casting speed, you'll get better damage out of it.

>>148303612
>Das3 is not a cash grab, it's an attempt to un-fuck the fuck-ups of Das2

...Which they proceeded to do by not implementing anything that DS2 did right and give us an unfinished, watered-down Bloodborne 2.0 instead of Dark Souls

Saying 'attempt' is giving it too much credit.

>it serves as the final farewell for the series

Which makes it even more sad.

>>148304358
anor londo was the literal city of the gods. to have a character come from there (aldrich) and return there to avoid you makes sense.

also, only one section of the area is a copypaste, the stair case leading up to the O&S room. everything else was brand spanking new

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>>148303734
>invade
>host+phantom on high ground
>1shot host with CSS
>phantom with astora stand doing nothing for sec
>suddenly turn to host corpse and start spamming L1 like speed demon
This is looks so comical from distance. Especially with UGS.

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>>148304271
Fine then, you want to say everything is a simplification? Here you fucking go

>Dark Souls 2, a game that had no business existing
>Bamco's ticket to ride
>Promotions here, there, everywhere
>Meddling in the game's development
>Did autistic amounts of overhyping to the NEW HARDCORE DARK SOULS
>Even fucking smithed a suit of Faraam Armor
>game falls apart
>stitch it together with 4 DLCs
>instead of fixing the game try to justify its existence with what is essentially a GOTY edition for a game that isn't game of the month
>

At least Dark Souls 3 is fun and more well written, the entertainment able to come from the gameplay being good rather than outright broken.

>>148304339
You also implied Ancient Wyvern and Bed of Chaos are not poorly designed, you oversimplifying dillweed. Please get a tripcode so I can hide your retarded opinions.

>>148304471
your dark souls 2 shilling is getting way too obvious. Das2 did very little right, and Das3 feels like a better version of Das1, because i'm looking at it from how it fairs in the Dark Souls series

maybe you should kill yourself, your life is just miserable

>>148304572
>to have a character come from there (aldrich)
Retard.

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>>148304358
>lying
I bet if Miyazaki came up to you and dumped his heart out about why Soul of Cinder's second phase existed you would just walk away and continue shitposting on /dsg/

>there are people that genuinely believe the bell section past the dual-greatshielders is not the worst area in all of dark souls 2

im going to fucking kill myself if I have to spend another minute in this shithole

Whose the boss of this fucking place anyway. Satan?

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>Unable to summon dark spirit
>Unable to summon dark spirit
>Unable to summon dark spirit
>Unable to summon dark spirit
>Signs don't reload
>2 minutes later
>Unable to summon dark spirit
>Unable to summon dark spirit
>Unable to summon dark spirit
>Unable to summon dark spirit

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>>148304613
what the fuck are you talking about? i never implied either of those things

please drink bleach so you never post here ever again

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>>148304595
>DaS3 has good and fun gameplay

>>148304358
I wish for DS3 in Africa. Who cares about fuckin first flame and Anor Londo, right?

>>148304725
so you didn't play the game? then get out

>>148304883
nice cherry picking

>>148304752
>I bet if Miyazaki came up to you and dumped his heart out about why Soul of Cinder's second phase existed
Simple, it exists for MUH FEELS and HAUNTING SAD BEAUTY of the story and shit. Or, y'know, pandering to nostalgiakids such as you. Seems to have worked quite well.

>>148304253
BB has no problems with stunlocks. Try this
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=znMtSc1kNUs

>>148304985
>cherry picking
Are you implying R1 spam doesn't trivialize every single non-giant enemy? Just about the one notable thing it doesn't work on is the Irithyll croco-dogs. And MOST bosses, I guess.

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>>148305019

>Why does Sif exist? Simple, for MUH FEELS and SAD LOYALTY of a dog who loves his master or some shit. y'know, pandering to people who have had their pets die

this is you, kill yourself immediately

>>148304883
>thik shitter with shitty webm again
>twink
>getting hit
everytime

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>>148304883
>Dark Souls 2 has good gameplay
Granted the fun is how bad it is.

Why do people play games they don't enjoy?

Faith builds get 60 faith in Das 3 right?
Canvas Talisman or Saints?

>>148305019
>he missed the point
Haha
haha
ahaH
ahah

>>148305172
Sif was in the same game and plotline that he and his master were introduced in, it formed a coherent whole.
It would've been a different story if they had introduced him in 3 and went "oh Artorias had a loyal dog all along! and you have to kill it".

Hell, I'm surprised they didn't have the Old Wolf of Farron literally be Sif back from the grave or some shit. Would've made as much sense as Andre being in Firelink Shrine.

>>148305019
it's almost as if das3 is a direct sequel of das1, takes its story and goes further, while das2 just randomly dropped clumsy references to look like a more legit souls game
you've been spamming your retarded opinion for 2 years now

>>148305265
because they love getting attention on 4chan. they can't get attention anywhere else

why do you think lucifer keeps coming here?

>>148305141
You can R1 spam in DeS/DS12345/BB :)

>>148305210
>fucked grab hitboxes
Wow, how unique to DaS2-... oh wait. Do I really need to fire up my game and get a few shots of how fucked the Dancer's grab hitbox is?

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>>148305317
Gwyn was in the same game and plotline that he and his kingdom were introduced in, it formed a coherent whole.
It would've been a different story if they had introduced him in 3 and went "oh Anor Londo had a ruler all along! and you have to kill it."

Hell, I'm surprised they didn't have the Soul of Cinder literally be Gwyn back from the grave or some shit. Would've made as much sense as Morion Blade being a quest reward.

>tfw they don't make controllers with extra strong B-buttons

i think I'll have to get another one soon ;-;
Why aren't there controllers with all metal constructions?

>>148305432
>Do I really need to fire up my game and get a few shots of how fucked the Dancer's grab hitbox is?
Yes. Please.

>>148305317
so things from the first of anything can never be referenced or expanded upon in later titles? that's fucking ridiculous.
>Star Wars 7, not featuring Han Solo!

what is even the equivalent to that stupid example you have in das3?

And andre is one of maybe 5 blatant pieces of pandering.

>>148305432
>how unique to DaS2
No, but what is unique to DaS2 is how awful all the hitboxes are,

When your game is so broken it can kill DSP without him being in the wrong, then 360 walk out the door and kill everything with lightning spears, what does this say about you?

>>148305329
>takes its story and goes further
DaS3 LITERALLY does nothing with DaS1's story. It just has some pandering cameo appearances here and there.
The endings are basically DaS1's link ending with less fire, or rehashes of DaS2's dark ending, or some vague bullshit that has nothing to do with DaS1 other than "Yuria is a servant of Kaathe, this is totally important beyond being a pandering namedrop".

>>148304253
Stunlocks were practically nonexistent in Bloodborne outside of a few VERY specific circumstances. PvP was all about hit and run tactics and getting one hit in at a time in most cases unless your opponent fucks up.

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>>148305491
get yourself one of these and become a pro like me

don't have to take my fingers off of any buttons ever

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so it's a fact? only pathetic pessimists think Das3 was disappointing or think 2 was better?

>>148304717
Nice edge, kid. Maybe take Miyazaki's dick out of your mouth for one second.

>>148305574
>When your game is so broken it can kill DSP without him being in the wrong
Bloodborne confirmed for worst Soulsborne game.

Since nobody answered I'll ask again, does the Darkmoon Cov work yet?

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>>148305676
>don't have to take my fingers off of any buttons ever
>There are clawniggers on /dsg/
Fuck everything
>>>/out/

>>148305750
hey great job refuting my points, maybe you'll try again later when you won't be so upset?

>>148305740
They're about equally shit for different reasons. One is just also uglier to look at.

>>148305838
>claw

what the fuck do you think the bottom paddle buttons are for?

>>148305854
case in point

>>148305775
has been for over a month, been drowning in ears

>>148305740
3 is better marginally but that won't stop the fact that it's

>The third
>Directed by Big M
>Wholesomely might be cheaper in the long run
>Less fucked on release with potential to be better after patches
>Has things from Dark Souls 1, 2, and DeS that haven't been torn apart by anyone other than 2 shills yet

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>>148305842
>"kill yourself"
>calling others upset

>>148305842
You didn't make any points you retard. People wouldn't have been playing ds2 as long as they did if it didn't do enough right.

Any problem you had with ds2 I could match with an equally shit problem in ds3.

>>148305940
>been drowning in ears
Finally, last thing I heard was that the new accounts were getting major priority over older ones.

>>148305574
>das2 horrible hitboxes
post the pursuer one

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Post high-quality fan art

>>148305997
>Directed by Big M
>somehow an upside
He's the Keiji Inafune of Souls games.

>>148306016
at least i bring up points to argue and refute asinine opinions instead of purely insulting people because your precious fee-fees got hurt

come back after a nap, that should calm you down

>>148306125
I never said it was an upside. It's just another thing for you DaS2 shills to talk about.

>get summoned as dork moon
>kill two aldirtch faithful
>get no concords whatsoever

fml

>>148305649
>The endings are basically DaS1's link ending with less fire
exactly which shows that the world is doomed whether you link it or not and that the fire wasn't meant to be linked
>or rehashes of DaS2's dark ending
which was a rehash of DaS1's dark ending minus the serpents
>or some vague bullshit that has nothing to do with DaS1
except it has something to do with DaS1's dark ending? you become what Kaathe was looking for, a Dark Lord, thanks to one of its servants

you want terrible non sensical ending? DaS2's either you sit on that throne to do ... fuckall or leave and aldia spouts pseudo deep shit and it ends in a 'lol its a mystery' once again

DaS3 has clumsy references too, the morion blade and the stormruler, but it's not anywhere as bad as DaS2

Is BKGA still good or is it just a vestige of From's nerfstick?

>>148306125
let me guess, you think Brett Ratner is a better director than Bryan Singer?

>>148306123
You first.

>>148306083
>Any problem you had with ds2 I could match with an equally shit problem in ds3.
Moonwalking
Hitboxes
Level design
Animation

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>>148306284
I thought it was really cool, but here's something else.

>>148306095
*DISCLAIMER*
I am not defending DaS2, just spreading accurate information so people can explain what makes DaS2 bad correctly.
*DISCLAIMER*

The Pursuer's grab hitbox is fine. What's fucked is the player's roll hitbox lingering behind them at low ADP, and this applies to every single attack in the game since it's not the attack hitbox that's fucked.
This is visually exacerbated by a change to how grab animations work - in DaS1, the enemy shifted to match the player's position, in DaS2 it's the opposite; this has no functional difference but "looks" more bullshit.
Fucked DaS2 attack hitboxes include Fume Knight's thrust and the Mimic wake-up grab, the latter posted above.
For the most part, the actual attack hitboxes are as model-accurate as the other games, as can be seen by looking up videos of people using emotes or jumping attacks to dodge boss attacks.

>>148306083
Enemy placements
Texture work
Level Design
Hitboxes
Animation
Soul Memory
SOTFS
Writing

>>148306391
A List of Things I Didn't Like - by Anon.

>>148306083
ADP

>>148306234
>DaS3's dumb endings are fine
>even though DaS2 did them first and they were not fine there because ???
Miyazakidrones, everyone.

>>148306438
>Bad animation
>Hitboxes
>Soul Memory
>SOTFS
>Texture Work
>being defendable
Shitposting level gained.

>>148306083
Soul memory
worst bosses in the series
worst animation in the series
worst general control
worst level design
hitboxes were fucked
enemies with insane tracking

you're done, kiddo

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>>148306251
it's still the best greataxe so yeah

its nerf wasn't anything like the FUGS

>>148305940
What SL are you? I'm around 77 and if I'm lucky I'll get summoned once every 6 hours or so.

>>148306391
>Enemy placements
I was going to just sit back and enjoy the shitposting but I just had to reply to this one because I literally just went through the Cathedral of the Deep and I hope Miyazaki chokes on a Thrall's misshapen cock.

>>148306438
if you actually liked the hitboxes in trashsouls2 then you need to hang yourself

>>148306525
>when gravelords were still active they just hid in tomb of the giants
I do not

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why did Anastasia imbue some random soldier with the dark sign in the opening cutscene of DS1?
Her souls says she may have commited a transgression so that's why she's locked up.
What does it all mean?

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>>148306123
that's fucking terrifying

>>148306517
>worst bosses in the series
Demon's Souls wins that prize.
>worst general control
Gonna have to explain this one, it controls about the same as the others unless you have a weirdly specific definition of "control".

>>148306554
all of my dorkmoons are 100 now, but as soon as i joined the sentinels i'd get summoned about every 45 minutes

>>148306317
Pvp Mechanics
Pandering
Linearity
Gimmick Bosses

>>148306457
read again retard, both "endings" bring absolutely nothing to the story, you either sit on a throne to do tanimura knows what or you leave to do ... tanimura knows what
that guy managed to do even worse than miyazaki in his "endings"
now fuck off

>>148306525
Yeah, me too, man. I had kept myself completely in the dark for DaS3 so for my entire playthrough I was really hoping to come across a gravelord covenant

>>148306457
>Miyazakidrones
Confirmed /v/. Another waste of time.

>>148306667
>DeS
>worst bosses
A lot of them are 'gimmicky' or 'basic' but they're not as bad as 2. DeS bosses are realized and do what they're supposed to do, and they do it well.

Is Phalanx a gimmick boss? Arguably so but it's not a shitty one.

Even if all the gimmick bosses from Dark Souls 2 were removed it wouldn't save the fact it has a shit ton that are almost all terrible.

>>148306629
>This Dark Sigil will never heal, but there is a tale told of a Fire Keeper who returned from the Abyss, and brought great comfort to a bearer of the curse.
-dark souls 3 dark sigil
What did they mean by this?

>>148306695
what?
only thing blatantly pandering was andre and storm ruler
linearity is not bad- it's not as good as Das1. also, interior level design was top notch
there's 3 gimmick bosses


none of these are as offensive as Das2's problems

>>148306776
Holy shit those nostalgia goggles of yours have thick lenses.
Yes, Phalanx is a shitty boss. Just because it's the first one doesn't mean it gets a free pass on being a boring mook swarm boss like several others in the series, the rest of whom are unanimously disliked or, at best, only tolerated due to music.

None of them do anything "well" either, unless you count Maneaters doing a good job at wasting time by flying off into the distance for no reason whatsoever. DeS has a reputation for having the most easily cheeseable bosses for a reason.

>>148306713
What do DaS3 endings bring to the story?

You sit down and burn. Oooo cycles futility, DaS2 already explored this plot angle and people gave it shit for it because futile cycles are a cheap plot device.
Then you have a generic dark ending which, at this point, adds about as much to the story as the former.
And then the Lord of Hollows ending which is essentially one nonsensical retcon where Hollows are no longer mindless zombies, but have some kind of culture and faction of their own.

>>148306940
>I'm wearing nostalgia goggles
>while he defends DaS2
>everything is unanimously disliked I say it is
Face it, Prowling Magus was shit and Deacons was actually enjoyable.

>>148307104
>Deacons was actually enjoyable

>>148306561 here, please explain how mashing R2 into a horde of basic enemies was enjoyable. I literally just got off that ride and I'm considering taking a break from the game over how shitty that entire area was.

>>148307202
cathedral was one of the best areas in the game

sorry anon, looks like you have terminal bad taste

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>>148307091
>You sit down and burn.
>he doesn't know

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>>148307202
I don't know, Anon. Considering you don't want to hear it because you want to say you're right at the end of the day it seems like it's just more wasted time.

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>>148307104
>Deacons was actually enjoyable.

>>148307202
But that's Congregation, anon.

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>general is full of nothing but complaints about things in DS3
>b-but it's the best!

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>>148307691
>the three dark souls 2 shitposters complaining about 3
What about when everyone talks shit about Dark Souls 2 and they say the exact same thing?

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>>148307338
There is nothing enjoyable about a mook swarm boss. If anything, DaS3's is the worst because they've had 4 games to learn from by now to stop doing it.

Phalanx is dogshit.
Royal Rat Vanguard is dogshit.
Celestial Emissary is dogshit.
Living Failures is dogshit.
Deacons of the Deep is dogshit.

Honorable mention goes to bosses that have one (or more) main bosses but heavily involve mooks in the fight, such as Storm King, Royal Rat Authority, Rom the Vacuous Spider, High Lord Wolnir and others.

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>>148307691
there must be something wrong with your eyes, because all i see are people refuting stupid bullshit that Das2 shills are spouting, as well as praising Das3

or perhaps it's your brain that's fucked

>>148307091
>DaS2 already explored this plot angle
it did fuckall
>What do DaS3 endings bring to the story?
that linking the fire is not an infinite option
>And then the Lord of Hollows ending which is essentially one nonsensical retcon where Hollows are no longer mindless zombies
it retconned nothing, you meet hollows who retained their minds in DaS1, the hollow seller in the undead burg, the female moss seller

das3 brought much more to the story than das2, accept it or not idgaf but it's the objective truth

>>148306629
No one has figured out her lore?

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>>148307789
Face it, the only good Souls game was Bloodborne.

It didn't have shitty bosses and fucked balance and pointless mechanics like Tendency, like Demon's Souls.
It didn't have a shitty unfinished second half that makes you vomit when you think of playing it, like Dark Souls 1.
It didn't have shitty graphics and animations, nonsensical world connections and forgettable bosses and NPCs, like Dark Souls 2.
It didn't have a shitty linear world design, horribly broken questlines, completely fucked PvP and uninspired fanservice-laden writing, like Dark Souls 3.

Bloodborne 2 when?

>>148308054
>It didn't have a shitty linear world design
How can anyone be this deluded?
>>>/bbg/

>>148308054
>Bloodborne 2 when?
never I hope, I'd prefer from to make another IP instead

>>148308054
>Face it, the only good Souls game was Bloodborne.

Finally, you've made a post so fucking stupid i can ignore you without feeling guilty, thank god

>>148308054
It might not be linear but it sure is dull.
Personally I want my worlds interesting, more than branching paths.

>>148307897
>you meet hollows who retained their minds in DaS1, the hollow seller in the undead burg, the female moss seller
>insane cackling is totally a sign of sanity guys
>so is giving a name to your pet bucket

Meanwhile Yoel, Yuria and Anri sound perfectly eloquent and, aside from Yoel, aren't dressed in rags.
>hurr Yuria isn't even Hollow
That doesn't even make sense plotwise, and you're only basing it off her having the default female head when her helmet is removed. She doesn't even have hair, it's as "canon" as Ciaran's face in DaS1 where they just didn't bother.

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>>148308054
What really gets me is the

>Bloodborne 2 when

You're fucking retarded, and this comes from a Sonygger who has DeS, BB, and the Souls trilogy on PS3/4

So I've been reading this thread and I'm getting the general opinion that all of the Souls games are shit.
Should I just play them all in sequence and judge for myself?

Good night, /dsg/! Talk to you tomorrow! :3

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>>148308321
>listening to 4chan
>listening to 4chan on one of the videogame related boards

Why did they take out ugly voices when hollowed in 3?
I loved the male wounded sound.
It always sounds like he nutted.
Ugghhhhn.

>>148308325
Going to bed myself, the shitposting was fun to watch but it's like 2 AM here.

>>148308220
moving the goalposts, you said "mindless zombies", they were not, they were as mentally sane as a guy like Oswald
I'm done with you now

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>>148307789
>>148307857
Keep eating up your Bloodborne 2.0

People who aren't complete retards have already realized this game is absolutely garbage outside of the first playthrough.

>>148308325
I hope you die in your sleep

>>148308398
Because they didn't care. 3 is just a cashgrab. You won't find any of those little "the devs think of everything" details in 3 that you find in any video game made with real passion.

>>148308480
Real talk, that's mostly the PvP crowd migrating back to greener pastures for their particular focus in the games.

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>>148308480
>flavor of the month game is not flavor anymore
#whoa
#wow
now compare DaS2's numbers and DaS1's numbers

>>148306357
You know, I love how you can pick out repeating boss themes. Adjudicator -> Smough -> The Rotten. Smough is more just visually similar to Adj, though.

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>>148308717

>>148308634
Just more proof ds3 is a shit game

>>148307857

>>148296392
>>148296619
>>148297424
>>148298258
>>148298460
>>148299027
>>148299971
>>148300446
>>148300632
>>148300806
>>148300825
>>148301223
>>148301729
>>148302224
>>148302450
>>148303245
>>148303782
>>148303856
>>148304253
>>148304358
>>148304471
>>148304883
>>148305265
>>148305775
>>148306207
>>148306457
>>148306561
>>148307202
>>148307498
>>148307851
>>148308054
>>148308398
>>148308480
>>148308527
>>148308627
>>148308634
>>148308857

>>148308634
>2 has bigger gains

>>148308857
no, just that it is in its stabilization phase, and that das2 is the worst out of the 3

>>148308909
all me

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>>148308923

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>>148309016
Nope, just a couple are me, in a convo.

>>148309160
you're just me on a proxy

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>>148308951
Actually no, if you look at the charts ds2 always maintained a higher overall amount of players within both the original and after when sotfs

There are only more players in ds1 now because of the dropoff from ds3 release, and people who finished ds3 who never played ds1 are playing it. The charts pretty much show exactly that.

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Where were you when your rare fashion became meta cheese?

>>148309724
>boots with segmented toes
>fashion

I bet you think Dragonslayer Armor looks cool.

>>148309724

Nameless Knight Helm
Cathedral Knight Armor
? Gauntlets
Dark Leggings

?

>>148309487
all it shows is the artificial interest the GOTY turbo edition of DaS2 brought
both games are in their end lives now

>>148309852
>Cathedral Knight Armor
Retard.

>>148309902
>I'm just going to ignore numbers and call him wrong anyway

>Crescent Axe has the charged warcry R2 of axes

That's pretty damn cool. How practical is this in PvP? I'm guessing I have to spam warcry R2s, since the R1 range is pretty underwhelming.

>>148310032
warcry r2 is predictable and shit
halberd r1 has hyper armor and good damage

>>148309902
K dude

>>148310092
>warcry r2 is predictable and shit
Weapon arts were a good addition guys :^)

>>148309724
what's wrong with it?

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Why does The Rotten cry?

>>148310219
He's in DS2

>>148310160
Warcry itself and the R2 isn't bad, it's just that if you spam it like a retard you'll be predictable. Plus it's parriable.

WA is a good addition for variety in attacks.

>>148310160
>there weren't shit powerstances that were also predictable
shitposting aside

>>148310092
>>148310032
Warcry is pretty much impossible to make work in the full charged R2 form even with tracking, it adds free damage and I think it gives regular R2 attacks hyperarmor though

>>148310219
I've spent some time being surrounded by corpses before and I can tell you the smell is so intense that prolonged exposure to them can make you cry

>>148310189
Infinite combo on the demon fist.

>>148309995
>numbers are not made to be interpreted
DaS2 had the luxury of getting a new, almost mandatory release that is barely one year old, of course that would influence the numbers
the numbers you're seeing right now are the final numbers, they wont change a lot and they show that past the novelty of the game, one game is more appreciated than the other

>>148310359
what's wrong with it?

>>148310448
It's infinite.

>>148310474
It's not.

>>148310474
isn't that good?