/dsg/ - Souls General

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Seen any good fashions lately?

this nigga seems to have some good style sense, wouldn't have thought to try the Knight with Silver torso.

Now that the dust has settled, we can put the memes aside and accept the fact that Dark Souls 2 was not a bad game at all, right?

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These fuckers can suck my nuts. Is there really any other strategy other than wailing on one randomly trying not to get hit by their AoE attacks?

>>148250757
it's the best in the series
all of the good players are going back to it because dark souls 3 is a shitshow

>>148250757
But it was a bad game . . .

>>148250909
Have you tried gitting gud?

>>148251046
But that's wrong

>>148250757
All from games are fucking godlike. DS2 is my favourite too, l may change my opinion once the DS3 DLCS come out though

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>main is sorc
>start pyro
>110SL
>tfw can't enjoy pyro gameplay
>no special weapons for pyro except Witch's Locks
>same MLGS, same GSoJ
>best weapons list for dark/chaos is same as for crystal
>no any free points because of 40/40 untill 130SL

>>148250909
Full Havels + lots of dps.

>>148250185

NG++++ and pyromancy/lightning spear still murders every boss with ease.

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I SWEAR IF I SEE THAT MUSHROOM CAP IRITHYLL SON OF A GUN I'M GOING TO KILL THEM

>WINNERS

>>148250757
this isn't /v/
>>>/v/

>>148251229
Think its worth farming my Broadsword from +12 to +14 or +15 before continuing? I get pretty close to killing them every time, but it seems right towards the end a few have spawned in and I get rekt. Full havels are a good shout.

>>148251307
At level 125?

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>>148251397
heck!

>>148251426
if you like it, why not? I did it with a Claymore.

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Slowly, but surely, putting metashitter wannabes down

>>148251804

That greatknife sure puts in a lot of work.

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Opinions on hornet rings in duels/FCs? I guess if you have a shit for damage weapon its better, but 90% of the time it means you have a small dick

>>148251804

How'd you get so tanky? Not just HP, but his L2 barely scratched you nor staggered you.

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I'LL HAVE MY REVENGE IRITHYLL
JUST YOU WAIT

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>>148252019
oh jeez oh no oh gosh

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>>148251919
It sure does my friend, anyone not utilizing offhanded weapons is missing out, it totally changes up playstyle + is gre8 fun, as long as you don't end up using it as a crutch

>>148252017
The L2 actually does fuck all damage if it doesn't headshot, and a lot of animations will cause it to miss the head. It looks like only the short-kat hit him, too.

>>148250909
elite knight set should be enough to tank their bullshit

>>148252157
I always try to use unparryable options in the left hand, just to fuck with parry spammers.

>that dial-up connection

scary

>>148251983

I don't see the point in trying to end duels more quickly on one critical personally, but I don't really mind if other people feel like every parry should result in a win.

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Even the sad butt is at the FC

Why aren't you?

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>>148252275
>unparryable options in left hand
Do those exist? I mean, all I can think of are whips/spells, cause most 1handed movesets are parryable

ls soul of cinder parryable?

>>148252502
No. He can parry you in curved sword form, though.

>>148252440
Whips and spell tools are what I typically use. In DaS1, for example, I would have a black flame waiting, and why fire witch in DaS3 has witch locks.

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@ the anons bashing profaned in last thread.

I don't remember where I heard it, but I think profaned can be used as a wakeup attack? If anyone knows for sure and would like to validate such a claim, feel free

Probably at the point where we need another host desu

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>>148252760
We could probably use another host exclusively for mushroom caps and irithyllians desu

>people said fight clubs would never be populated on weekdays even if you hosted at high wall
retards

REEE SOMEONE HELP ME WITH MY LUCK X FAITH BUILD
I DON'T WANT TO HAVE TO USE ANRIS SWORD LIKE A SHITTER
JUST MADE A HOLLOW SAINT BIDENT HOW BAD DID I FUCK UP
WHAT MIRACLES ARE VIABLE OR SHOULD I JUST USE LIGHTNING BLADE
WHATS THE BEST TALISMAN OR CHIME FOR 40 FAITH,IS IT STILL SACRED CLERICS CHARM?

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Those of you who incorporate dark souls 3 "tech" in your play, what do you find most useful? I was trying to experiment with the sprinting attack buffer, but it doesn't seem very useful with UGS

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>>148252880
B-but.. I feel so naked without my mushroom cap!

So unfair.

>>148252982
there is no tech in dark souls 3

>>148252982
I just roll behind somebody for pivot stab, but I carry a parrying dagger for parrying and getting that Rapier hitconfirm

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>land twelve clean hits on invader
>barely tickles him
>he lands two hits
>you died

great fucking game you got here

>>148250743
Laurtrec helm and gloves with archdeacon robe chest and maiden skirt is top tier fashun

I hate Oceiros.

>>148253175
AAAHHH

IGNORANT SLAVES

>>148252972
Do you want use buffs/heals only? Then Clerics Chime
Offensive Miracles? Canvas or Sunlight talismans
Saints Bident is an alright spear, but to be sure pack Anris or a Hollow/Lightning SS as back-up

>>148253108
Are you perhaps using a scimitar or a dagger?

>>148253175

I hate Oceiros more.

friendly reminder to not summon hoboharry

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note to self: do not trust this butt

>>148253175

I love Oceiros.

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60 dex yay!

>>148253401
what technique is the one that you don't like specific to this individual?

>>148253408
Bullying the bully

>>148253221
I thought none of the offensive miracles were viable at 40 faith?
To be honest I'm struggling to get a feel for the meta as I haven't had internet since I got the game 2 weeks ago, (getting it back tomorrow thank god) so I can't really get a feel of the meta.
Is sl120 or 100 the build level to aim for still?
And is saints BIDENT the only weapon that can be both hollow and faith scaled?

>>148251804
>gets hit
>sarcastically claps
I've seen this in loads of webms and I still don't understand.

>>148252734
Reddit claimed that, but it's more of a "if they don't roll after a knockdown and let it hit them" kind of thing.

>>148253458
That's actually pretty well done, cool

>>148253175
you can cheese him with tree roots and ranged attacks, he deserves it

>>148253494
the one that lets him teleport around due to meme country internet

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>>148253556
I trust the Irithyllian more than you at this point

what a betrayal

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>>148253767
There's nothing untrustworthy about me, gosh

>>148253726
Mean Z of Londo?

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>>148253612
Right? It doesn't make any sense to me. Probably just a pathetic effort to put you on tilt

>>148253618
Ah, that's a shame. In that case profaned is only useful if someone happens to be stuck in a corner spamming roll

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Is there any reason NOT to use the Dark Pyromancy Flame in DaS2? It seems like it gets better scaling universally, not just when hollowed. Am I reading that wrong?

>>148253664
I know. But every NG+ he makes me mad. Don't know why

>>148253972
It has higher scaling, but gets a damage penalty that increases the less hollowed you are. At fully human, it has 0 scaling and only base damage.

Also man why does Fudman take like no damage from anything, a charged Leo R2 from an AGS in the middle of his attack only did 900 and was less than 1/3 of his HP
What soul level is this guy

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>>148253767
I won't do it again

>>148254286
he's soul level 99 in all stats :)

>>148253615

i love this fashion

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>>148254301
There's no going back

I officially invest more faith and trust into a mushy-capped frozen-lipped """paladin""" from Irithyll

>>148253247
a fully upgraded halberd I use with two hands, great in pve bosses go down very fast, yet every dual wield shirtless faggot in pvp is somehow immune to any of my attacks and two swings of their katana kills me

Why is GRAND CATHEDRAL in DS2 so FUN?

oregano

>>148253590
Yeah the bident is the only infusable weapon with faith scaling
For level whatever you're comfortable with cant really tell you about that. Seems like 120 is the meta but 100 allows you to frag 80's at Pontiffs

>>148254838
Funny thing about the Bident: if you infuse it with Blessed, the faith scaling doesn't change so it just loses like 150 AR and gains nothing.

>>148253956
Better luck next time.

>>148255039

Getting the Bident to do damage is like getting a cat to do tricks.

I think I need more than 90 SLs. That or my mushroom hat is cursed now because I've lost every single fight today except for one round against Zilrael.

>framerate goes lower every time I reload this shit area
>already south of 15fps
Send help

>>148253998
that charge is cancer. he seems to have hitboxes that extend outside of his body a bit when doing it - i started recording videos recently and noticed it. the stomping opener seems to have lingering hitboxes too

>>148254838
>only infusable weapon with scaling
Just ree my shit up
At least this makes me more of a special snowflake and kinda suits my build
Minor noble astorian with nothing but luck and optimism guiding him towards whatever happens aka basically anri but not
>>148255169
Fun fact
I taugh my cat to sit on command.
Is this a sign from God that my build may one day be viable?
Can't wait to pvp with you shitters tomorrow 8)

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>>148255256
Get a better toaster

>>148255325

Because he can initiate the charge almost instantaneously and in any direction, it's hard to find a good time to attack him. I feel like his fight is hampered by poor animations. It's like he's gliding about on ice the whole fight instead of crawling/running.

>>148255325
On my first character he was the first and only point in the game where I equipped a shield, specifically because of that fucking charge.

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DO YOU WANT A REAL FAITH AOE CHUCKLEFUCK

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sickest rap battle

Side note for everyone in the FC, you will get one more summon and then I'm ending it for now.

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>>148256292
ok thanks for hosting.

>>148251983
people wasting their slot on hornet in duels are just shit given that no good opponent will ever get parried or backstabbed, there's literally one setup that enables some semblance of bs fishing and it's countered with unlocked play just fine

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>>148256292
Thanks for hosting! It's been fun.

>>148253458
glade people are starting to use 60 dex and 66 str builds

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>>148255651
>Luck/Faith astoran noble
>Forgot i had a thing in progress thats exactly that the entire time
Fuck my memory

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>>148256292
Thanks for hosting.

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>>148254404
Please forgive

>>148256407
>junddrones parroting this "good players never get parried" meme.
The only time the hornet ring is a waste is against washing poles, since the parry window for the only attack they'll ever use is like 2 frames

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>>148256292
Thanks for hosting man

>>148256292
thanks for hosting

Why isn't there a way to de-level. Its funny that DeS the first game in the series allowed it. Now that there is weapon matchmaking I don't see why we can't.

>>148256564
Looks like we're two plebs in a pod pal

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>>148256292
thanks for hosting
on a sidenote, does anybody know when you should use the spin attack on wolf knight greatsword
because it seems like it's irredeemable shit atm

So Irina of Carim turned into a vegetable after making her move to the tower behind the katana guy. Only two boring lines. What a disappointment.

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Either Natalya and Alsatia both started lagging or
or

I started lagging. Oh no!!

>>148256579
I done goof'ed. gg weeb

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wow Yorshka's Spear sure is meta

does a whopping 200 damage!

also harry i fucking hate fighting you there's never any animations

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FCa8OcqfAoc

from leddit

>>148257310
Yeah a couple people were laggy but it's the game we play

>invaded by "Cancer DS3"
>it's another RHH autist who do nothing except R1
>he don't give a fuck trading against black flame
Why Scythes can't be cancer in DS3 too? This is unfair

>>148257310
was i lagging?
because when i was fighting you sometimes attacks would just randomly hit 2 seconds after they didn't even connect on you

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>acceptance of mushroom cap lady
>butt betrayal
>rap battles
>RULES OF NATURE

And with that, the High Wall FC is closed for right now.

See you next time!

>>148256579
You are pardoned.

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>>148257380
RIP CAETUS YOU WERE THE BEST SWORD SHEATHING WEAPON IN THE GAME

>>148256712
hornet is always a waste in 1vs1, i don't give a shit about twitchfags
anyone has a way of reliably countering and punishing parries and there's a lot of rings i would rather use

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>>148257380
TIME TO BE GAY

Another DaS2 question. Are there any spells for any magic branch that do an immediate AoE? Something that would blast those statues in Black Gulch to powder.

>>148257380
DS3
S
3

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>>148257525
It was a grand ol' time. Thanks again.

Now I'm going to go finally level.

>>148257380
omw to ruin fight clubs

>>148257487
yeah, it's usually delayed animations and damage and such when i go against you. you caught me with lots of hits with the GSoJ from across the arena. this time you just stopped animating like halfway through and i knew it was fucked

thanks from

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>>148257380
Wait, so all those people who "praising" caestus and demon first in /dsg/ after patch, actually just abusing broken combo like with pre-patched Storm Sword infinity? CRUTCH CENTRAL

>>148258083
I don't think anyone knew people at the FC didn't

>>148257487
People were saying you were lagging but you were fine for me. Then some other guy starts teleporting and blames me when everyone else was, well, as good as possible against me since I don't live in US. I can understand people getting mad but I saw the same shit on my screen.

>>148258083
>praising
What?
We just have one regular autist who posts the same 2 or 3 webms of people Mashing into his perseverance. Nobody else unironically praises crutchfists.

>>148257793
sorry, feel bad knowing that i was a pain in the ass to fight but my internet appears to be completely fine so i have no idea what's causing it

>>148257626
Soul Flash is the fastest but 2 problems
1. it has shit range
2. its in Eleum Loyce

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>>148257283
No worries

>>148257525
Thanks for hosting and bullying, have a nice rest of the day

>do some DS1 PVP for the first time ever in the forest (originally had it pirated)
>Win 75% of my matches, with half the losses being because of lagstabs or getting ganged up on by 2 Blues
I figured since the game has been out for so long the only people still playing would be the faggot wizards with 9000 hours in pvp.

Or is it just because my INT build is OP as fuck for level 60-70, I didn't bother to look up meta shit beforehand and I only started doing it to farm souls to go to SL100

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My cat died

How are you today /dsg/

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>>148258083

>boxing moveset finally viable in a DS game
>not only viable but excellent
>is a broken memeweapon that sets people's asses on fire

This makes me happy

>>148258547
sorry to hear about your cat

>>148258272
distance and shit netcode

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here's your new cancer
blessed weapon > carthus beacon and flame arc
swap priestess ring in with right eye so you can buff then switch back
and obviously dragon form

>>148258547
How old your cat was?

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>>148258547
i feel you anon.
my 13 year old dog died last week of cancer.

its hard, but it will be alright.

>>148258547
Sorry for your loss, anon

>>148258547
sorry to hear about that man

>>148258806
>9 FTH
I think you need to move a Vig level to that

>all these caestus faggots now appearing out of the woodwork
>casually just going to poke them to death with my spears
:)

>>148258806
>30 vit
there's no point if you're going to be literally stunlocking people to death

>>148258806
>30 VIT
why

>>148258568
THIS
HOLY SHIT

>>148258547
Sorry about your loss dude

>>148259107
>>148258568
What about Bone Fists and prepatch champ ring?

>>148259036
>>148259081
forgot about that but you can use it for min-max armor set (mornes helm/cath knight armor/cat legs and gaunts)

>>148258958
forgot that just put a vit point there

after about 150 hours and several deleted characters that didn't make it l've finally linked the first flame

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>>148258845
Like, 1.

Sometimes if I'm a little distracted while gay-ming the dogs I have end up peeing behind me in the dining room where the PC is

I get up, clean the mess and noticed something red on the ground, but the color was blood and not ketchup red

I go in and she's dead on the kitchen next to my other cat

We think she was pregnant for a little over 2 weeks as she had bloating and behavioral changes beforehand

The worst part is that I just found the body after finishing the FC up

>you made shitty axe instead of dragon dildos for twink
>it's PS4
Fuck.

>>148258547
having fun fighting ganks on my gimped cosplay

Sorry to hear that. how old was he?

Is charcoal pine bundle ever viable ?

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come and get me caestus idiots

you won't be able to land an l1 on me now that I know

better prepare those mushroom hats because you're gonna need to look like fools for acting like one

>>148259493
Aaaaawhhh oh man I'm so sorry :(

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>>148259493
dang, probably some kind of organ damage
sorry for your loss friend, my mom recently had to give my cat away while i'm living in a different state.

cried for the first time in like 12 years because of it

remember to spay or neuter your pets

>>148259493
That's really shitty man, I'm sorry
I had a cat fall asleep and just never wake up. Scares the shit out of me when my current two sleep for a long time and I can't see them obviously breathing.

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>>148260346

Besides being used for 'le epik meme caestus infinite' and other builds of the sort, is there any viable dragonform build, or any reason to go dragon form in the first place? I know the roar boosts damage or something, and the stomp breaks shields, but are those even easy to land with the enormous fucking windup? Not to mention dragon form has no armor so you'll take extra damage and have no poise right? Is it specifically designated for challenge runs?

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>>148260175
That's what I thought
I have a fat 10 year old dog that constantly seems dead until their chest moves up and down

I gave her a few nudges with my boot but I noticed she wasn't blinking

I feel guilty somewhat

>>148260119
We think that the cat that was next to jer, our other cat, was the possible father if she WAS pregnant. We just haven't had the chance to fix them.


I gotta go back in the kitchen and at least drape the body until my cpany gets home. Later guys.

>>148260587
Dont forget the biggest downside, looking like an anorexic fuckboy lizard faggot instead of SWOLE ALPHA MALE DRAGON MAN from 1 or a Knight with armor that makes Ornstein's look like tinfoil strapped to a dollar sweatshirt from 2

>>148260587
only other use is hypermode hornet ring riposte builds

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Imagine if From made the mound maker white sign actually white instead of purple

>>148260812
be safe champion of ash

ls the 120-125 meta actually active outside pontiff or is it just a meme?

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>>148260937
>All the casul fans get butthurt and never summon again
>They'll ragequit since they can't git gud

I can see why they didn't desu. Shameful as it is

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>>148260937
I really wish there was also some sort of incentive to not be a cunt as a purple. Being able to help with bosses and getting a bigger reward for it or something.

I've been friendly invading as one but there's just no real reason to.

>>148261081
Yes, very active. As a matter of fact, invasions and dried finger runs are probably as active (if not more active) than 80

Can someone trade me Demon's Fist on ps4?

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>>148260812
Don't feel guilty - cats are fuckin experts at hiding if they're sick or in pain. Try to have a good night, ok?

If she was bloating, it might have been a urinary issue. My parent's cat had that pee crystal shit and nobody noticed for weeks until they found blood on the ground from where he tried to pee.

>>148260937
I thought your sign would be white if you had the white phantom ring equipped, but it stays purple so no one is going to summon you anyway.

>>148261134
>Getting a much bigger reward for being friendly to the host
>As if ganksquads weren't a big enough problem already

Being purple means being a madman, not being nice or being a cunt. You go with the flow of the fight, switch sides if you want, fight against the odds if you want, kill anyone and anything you want. Truly it is the most freeing covenant, save the few times you spawn in and everyone in game is a "kill purple on sight" fag

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>>148261121
>>148261609

>>148261613
As a white purple letting a host reach the fog gate gets you absolute jack shit, they shouldve let Purples enter the fight and get a reward for either killing the host or the boss

is it ok to use the CE ninja flip roll in pvp?

>>148261246
thanks, l was thinking about stopping at 100Sl but l think l will go all the way over to 120SL now

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Phantoms protecting me from hosts is the best.

>>148261613
Literally every single invading purple save one I've met in ~400 hours has just been after the host's ass, acting no different at all from a red.

>>148261931
yeah man go for it

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>>148261921
>Purples enter the fight and get a reward for either killing the host
I need this

>>148261931
doesn't give you extra i-frames, but it does give you out

>>148262085
>>148262192
neat

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can this get a nerf please? I keep getting rekt by it, literally NOTHING can defend against it

>>148261970
Host BCing his phantoms because they keep attacking you is the best

>not bowing after duels and instead immediately rushing up to summon someone else
when did this uncourteous meme start

>>148262432
Stop this right now.

>>148262432
NOTHING ?

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>>148262483
Yeah that's good too.

Most people EVENTUALLY seem to get it, which is nice.

>>148262539
I forget to do it and feel like shit

every time

>>148261921
This has been said a million times, but there's no way in hell anyone would ever let that big a risk into the boss room, it would be so easy for a purple to murder the host in cold blood in 90% of the bosses

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Mule when?

>>148262776
What if you could summon them while unembered?

>>148261970
Those people are doing it wrong, and are clearly just using the covenant to get sheckles. It sucks absolute ass when you are a red on the receiving end of purple bullying, but its so much fun to turn on red phantoms once the host gets outnumbered

>>148262849
o shit thats a pretty good incentive
especially for new players

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We can pretty much agree that this is the best covenant.

>>148263048
only cucks like that covenant.

rosarias fingres for life

>>148262849
That'd probably help white purples out on like 10% of players, but in addition to getting more incentive to summon purps, that gives purps more incentive to fuck the host up bc they won't have a 30% health boost.

>>148263048
yep

I love saving normal/non-ganking players from being bullied by reds, and I love turning on ganking players after I gained their confidence

>>148263048
>>148263098

THANKS FROM FOR MAKING 2 COVERNANTS DEPENDENT ON PEOPLE WEARING A SHIT COVERNANT BADGE THAT NO ONE USES GREAT WORK FROM BRAVOOOOOO

>>148263390
are u ok

>>148252157
I wish they could get rid of that useless blocks and parries and have the whole movesets in the left hand, the only actually good part of dual wielding in DS2, fuck that unwieldy powerstance shit.

>>148263324
This. General rules for helping host is 1. No seed of Giant's, and 2. not being a shitter. If the host is unfortunate enough to be violating those rules, they'll get no breaks from me

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>>148263239
Isn't that the point? You risk summoning a madman, if he goes at you instantly you respawn 10 feet back at the bonfire. If he turns on you later on it's part of the risk you took to get him to help you.

Again, if they were summonable when unembered AND got a bigger reward for helping with bosses not sure about friendly fire while in bossrooms I feel like they'd be a more attractive covenant as semi-whites.

>>148263479
What fucking retard at from thought "Oh yeah, let's let the player block a fucking giant slab of rock with a small knife, just in case its situationally a good idea." I hope they were fired, but knowing from, they probably got a promotion bc it cut down coding and let them be even lazier

What are the best strength weapons in DS3? Just killed Wolnir using the great club +3 right now and it's alright but leaves a little to be desired.

>>148264056
get out now while you still can, there's nothing but disappointment ahead

>>148264174
Get out of what? Strength builds, DS3 or /dsg/?

>>148264259
all 3 would be ideal

>>148263741
It is, however I feel that-Ideally- you would want conditions that have equal costs or benefits for the purple, and though unembered summoning is a step in the right direction, grapes would still have a much easier time offing the host, which increases the risk and throws the whole system off. I still think purps were a great addition to the game, but like communism, their concept as is only works well in theory

>>148264326
DS3 is fun tho.

JUSTICE FOR HOLY KNIGHT HODRICK

THE TRUE MADMAN

>>148264056
Great Club
Yhorm's Great Machete
Spiked Mace
Smough's Great Hammer
Gundyr's Halberd
Cathedral K***ht Greatsword
Black K***ht Greataxe
Fume Ultra Greatsword
Butcher Knife

>>148264451
not for long it isn't.

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>>148264403
An additional/alternate idea:

What if the second summoned phantom could only be a purple?

>>148264451

Yeah, "fun".

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>>148264650
No idea why I posted that image.

>>148264056
Heavy Flamberge
Heavy Greataxe
Fume Ultragreatsword
Spiked Mace
Pickaxe
Warpick
BKGA

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>mfw going up against Jund fanboys in pvp who follow his build to the letter
do you think these people have fun

which of Champion Gundyr's attacks can be parried? i have a hard time with his second stage

Purple is the only covenant working as intended in the game as far as I'm concerned. You can do whatever you want. Purple would be a lot more rewarding if you could invade into worlds with more chaos instead of ganks. Seeing 4 ironfruits kill a lone red right after invading is the life of a purple.

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>>148265082

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>>148265126
I find it easiest to just backpedal and wait for a broad sweeping one.

>Pike is more wieldy, lighter AND stronger than the fucking Greatlance
FIX DIS

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>>148265230

>try low level high wall invasions
>more cheaters in a single evening than the rest of my playtime combined

wew

is this like some reddit thing where they feel they are sticking it to those nasty invaders ruining their pve masterpiece or something

This cestus and demon's fist combo is ruse. You can roll after R2. And good luck hitting someone with caestus.

am I the only person who puts a sign outside aldritch's door just to see people get oneshotted by arrows? I think it's hilarious

why is all the armor in this game shit tier?

literally everything is just le epik knight shit
wheres my dingy set

>>148264650
I was thinking the same thing actually, maybe if the dried finger made you able to summon purps, that way there would be little to no ganksquads, and purps would be 1v3 if they go haywire. Actually, now that I think about it, I don't know why From didn't make that the case, maybe because you could have 2 summons in previous games?

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>>148265467
I've had a similar experience and I don't know why either.

>>148265230
Why is Ornstein blindfolded?

>>148265396

What is this hot new meme`?

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>>148265627
>>148265467
WHY THE FUCK DOES IT KEEP UPLOADING DIFFERENT IMAGES FROM THE ONE I SELECTED
FUCK

>>148264451
DS3 is pretty much the least replayable game in the series and suffers way too much from being designed to cater to complete morons that have never touched an action game before. And from how Tanimura is doing the balancing yet again and is trying to apply a DS2 mentality to a game that isn't suited for it at all.

Not sure what to end on for 120, bleed build, darkmoon blade, or just respec into pyro.

Anyone got any recommendations? I'm using the Sellsword Twinblades/Grave Warden blades.

>>148265838
You better not have dsg in the same folder as other certain images.

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How does chip damage work in DaS1? The NPCs like the forest hunters take huge chip damage from elemental weapons compared to other players.

>try to kill dancer
>stuck in door every time I try
>speared through fog while dancer slices me in my cage of doorway hell
>repeat until I autistically screech at 2 am and spam roll out for once, only to be killed by a spin via dancer
Im summoning.

>>148263098
That's Warriors of Sunlight you're thinking of.

>>148263390
>cuckmoons
bfFAHAHAHAHA

>>148265467
well it IS a meme game favoured by reddit, so most likely yes #feelthebern

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>>148266197

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>>148265695

>>148263741
Hosts really should be nerfed. I feel that the game's difficulty is compromised by letting them steamroll the game with a gank squad with no consequences.

Maybe you should be unable to talk to NPC's when you have a summon.

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fuck gwyn
cant do shit with a ugs
ended up having to parry
fuck gwyn
he's a good boss

>>148266308
Dark Souls 2 is more of a meme game, isn't it? It has a lot of the "Prepare to Die" and "So hard you'll [violent action here]" marketing stuffed in there.

Solaire and the Warriors of Sunlight make up a larger percentage of Dark Souls 1 references than you'd think normal.

>>148266134
>>148266134
You mean as in blocked hits?
Their shields probably have shit elemental defense then

>>148266797
>cant do shit with a ugs
have you tried hit r1? do you have any endurance?

>>148259201
bone fist was never a part of a meta
it was a fancy weapon but good luck against non-retards with it
i would say that no other fist weapon in series as as strong as current caestus, hopefully they will at least leave L1-R2-L2-R2 for demon fist after nerfing the infinite

anyone run into any bandwagoners trying to 5 hit combo people with caestus and demon fists

>>148267237

From just needs to add toggle back and bam, all broken combos are fixed.

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Is nuke pyro the most cancerous invader build?

>>148266929
Wasn't even just in the marketing, it was integrated into the game and even showed up in one of the final patch notes.

Expect the first Dark Souls thing Namco tries to fund without From involved to have reminders every six feet that it's supposed to be the hardest game ever.

>>148256925

It hasn't been allowed since because the griefing potential was too high, I think.

Scraping Spear-esque shenanigans only came back for DS2, and poison clouds have been reliably nerfed since then.

>>148267006
yes
but im trash at the game and whenever i trade with him i fail to dodge his next moves and/or heal since he punishes with his running stab 90% of the time

>>148267541
You're thinking of obscuring ring nuke mage

I have slaughtered 4 man ganks without ever being detected with this build

>>148267836
Obscuring ring gank squad can farm you too.

>>148267719
>griefing potential was too high

Oh sorry I thought we were playing Dark Souls here git gud or git out

>>148267731
get black knight shield or black iron gshield if you have the strength. block a hit or 2 and punish 2handed. if you stay close enough or block for too long, he will probably try a grab. just move out of range and punish more.

What does Kalameets telekinesis do besides a tiny bit of damage?

>>148268351
>git gud or git out
When was dark souls ever really about this?

>>148267614
That's already happened, actually. The Dark Souls comic series came out.

It's completely divorced from the games, except that Solaire and Aldrich make appearances.

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>>148268523
makes you take 2x more damage for a short period of time

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>>148268523
You take double damage while you have the debuff on.

>>148260587

Hyper mode bullshit in general.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I-m--NuPcrQ

Did the recent patch make Wolololol blade viable at least for PvE?

I'm on 14 str 20 dex 40 fth for lightning lothric spear

Are those stats suitable to use it as a backup?

>Dark Souls is the hardest game ever

I've never understood this meme and I'm not even that good at video games.

The only way for it to be exceptionally difficult is if you play like a retard.

>>148268529
The first two games were unfair as fuck and the attitude was you figure out a way to deal with it or you can go play another game. Now we're in the age of neo-souls where griefing is concerning and you can't have your weapon upgraded too high vs other people or it might be unfair. God forbid retards get stomped

>>148268596
>>148268684
Oh great, so if I get hit by that the fight is pretty much over.

>>148268863
hi /v/

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>>148267541
heh

>>148268596
These are the kinds of things souls bosses need more of, some kind of attack that throws a spanner in the works. Kalameet's and Moon Presence's gazes add some urgency to a fight and are more interesting than just a 6th or 7th melee attack option you have to learn the tell of

Murakumo worth it for pyro?

>>148268829
Yes. It gets good damage from str and faith now

>>148269021
you can wait it out, still best to just avoid it

really like how they gave a dragon the ability to perform telekinesis though, gives it so much more character beyond "breathe fire and bite/claw enemies"

>>148268863
>The only way for it to be exceptionally difficult is if you play like a retard.

There's your answer.

>>148253612
>>148253967

You two are the cancer that is killing this community.

>>148269023
>I have no arguments so I'm just going to claim that you're from /v/

>>148268351

The changes that have been made to the invasion formula since DeS really suggest that nobody at From shares your outlook on it. Invaders have been reduced from the huge, game-ending terrors of DeS to mild dangers in DS2 and 3.

I hope we get back to BB's formula, where at least the invader can have a huge damage advantage even though you're still invading into guaranteed gank squads with reduced health. That's all one can hope for at this point, that and no fucking seeds ever again.

>>148269021
Not really, just play defensively until it wears off.

It's easy to avoid getting hit by anyway.

>>148268863
>2016
>Still trying to stealth brag about how easy you find souls

>>148269246
Kalameet is the king of dragon boss fights.

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>>148269003
>tfw making invasions heavily one-sided in favor of the host wasn't enough and From felt the need to make the fog wall entering animation un-interruptible in das3

All i ever wanted was to fuck with people in my online videogame, is that such a terrible thing to want?

I miss corrosive urns from Dark Souls 2.

>>148269003
>The first two
DS1 maybe, but DS2 was designed around summoning your friends for help all the time and the punishment for death was little more than a slap on the wrist (even DS3's was better).

>>148269386
I never said it was easy.

It's just not that hard.

Dying is just a slap on the wrist, the moment you realize that the difficulty is much more tolerable.

>>148268863
People who hype up the supposed difficulty of the game are either nu-soulsfans or bandwagoners who want to play the hottest new meme game.

Souls games have challenge, yes, but the goal is not to be difficult for the sake of being difficult but to encourage the use of tactics, thinking, preparation and skill.

If you stop and observe the encounters before going in, you won't have much trouble at all. If you just rush everywhere and R1 spam like a retard, you won't get very far.

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>>148269413
>Kalameet is the king of dragon boss fights.

>>148269230
>Pyro requires 2 stat investment with supporting investment in attunement
>Murakumo requires high strength to wield, end to swing more than once and then another 20-30 points in dex for damage
What synergies are you seeing here that makes you think this loadout is a good idea?

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Can any lorefags help me out? I think I understand most of the story and connections behind Artorias/Sif/the Abyss, but I never figured out why you need the Covenant to traverse the Abyss in New Londo but not the Chasm of the Abyss in the DLC. Did I miss something? Is the chasm not "real" abyss?

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How good are lightning spells in this game? I tried making one but damage early on with lightning spear is super sad, does it get better later on or should I not waste my time?

>>148268734
That actually looks pretty fun, perhaps I shall try it out.

Anyone know if its possible to drop dragon stones?

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>>148269386
And still this bait works.

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>>148269568
At least you can still bait hosts into aggroing NPCs.

If they didn't intend for me to do that as an invader, then they wouldn't let hosts be able to hurt NPC's when they're invaded.

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>>148269568
>I miss corrosive urns from Dark Souls 2.

The one item I always kept a 99 stack of while invading. I wouldn't leave even one item unbroken if I could manage it.

>>148269235
So my 14 str 40 fth should do okay?

>>148269590
Des and Ds1 are the first two

>>148269681
You're 7 years late on having an original opinion

>>148269590
What? If you die in DS2 your health decreases and you'll be unable to summon but you can still get invaded as a hollow. In DS1 you don't lose any health while hollow so you can just play hollow the whole game.

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post you're weaponfus
>pic related
>best hammers

>way of the blue, fingered, cosplay build
>red appears, but doesn't let go of mob's hand
>clear a couple of mobs and pull back to safe zone
>4 estus down on both of us
>blue apears with 50% hp from mobs, gets finished by red no surprise
>red gets mad, pulls a dragonslayer's axe and resin buffs it
>2 estus later, bs him and throw charm
>runs to mob, again
>after a while, comes back with symbol of avarice spams block and bc
is this new etiquette? If I can't gank I wont bother with it?
blogpost.

>>148269681
You have to understand though. Difficulty is relative. to you it might be fair, but for others it might be a nightmare. And my guess there are more people who fit the latter than the former

>>148269949
Yep. I get 500 ar with 18 str and 40 faith as a reference

>>148270118
Nice, thanks. I'll keep it then.

>>148269749
To be fair he doesn't have much competition.

>>148269772
Because the Abyss wasn't fully formed yet. In the Chasm there were still shapes and geometry, while in the DaS maingame it's just a void.

>decided to try Necropolis, yet another DS clone that went as far as fully copying its button layout
>it's such an unbearably slow piece of trash that even ds2 looks like an apex of fast and responsive combat in comparison
Not sure what i was expecting.

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>>148269947
>tfw spamming corrosive urns from a stock of 99 and dodging every blow from your unfortunate victim

Truly the gayest ol' time.

>>148269923
There's nothing like sitting in a mass of 6+ enemies, just waiting for the host to show up with 2+ goons so that you can kill his fuckbois and savor the moment when he brings back yet another ragtag bag of baby dicks for you to play with.

Invasions can still be fun.

>>148270458

Is there a demo that you can download?

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what reason is there to use any other halberd when pic related exists? bit less damage in exchange for thrust counterhits

>>148269302
>no fucking seeds ever again
You're insanely boring and a coward who hides behind mobs.
>BWAAAA, only invaders should be able to gank!

>>148269760
Murakumo has S scale in elemental infusion.

Is using the Black Knight Sword cheating?

>>148270651
>>148269302
What if seeds were only usable if there were no whites/yellows and they disallowed summoning?

>>148270553
yeah gog version on every torrent
don't bother

>>148269970
Right, I keep forgetting about DeS. I'm retarded.

>>148269983
In DS1 there's actually a risk of losing your bloodstain, and the way the bonfires were placed there were very few areas where you wouldn't lose a good amount of progress upon dying. DS2 lacks both, made even worse by how the ring that prevents you from losing any souls can be repaired.

The health penalty in DS2 is a very minor inconvenience when there are so many effigies in the game and even without them it takes repeated deaths for your health to get to a point where it's actually a penalty instead of a very minor inconvenience. Getting invaded while hollowed was about as likely as invading a solo player in DS3.

>>148270798
Nah man, it just means you're compensating.

anyone want a pcfc?

if not i might go back to modding morrowind

thanks for reading my blog

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>Kill stripper early for those sweet swords
>They're absolute shit
At least I have access to all the large shards now.

>>148269983
>you can still get invaded as a hollow
this barely matters as nobody invades in ds2 normally, let alone hitting someone with lower invasion priority

>>148270798
>things that are cheating
CE, Mega Mule, duping glitches

>things that are not chesting
Everything that you can achieve in the game without using external programs or save edits.

how does one parry halberds

>>148271061
you can't

>>148270651
>Less HP, less estus, almost guaranteed to invade a gank
>NO MOBS THAT'S UNFAIR WAHHHHHHHHHH

2/10 made me reply

>>148270841
>In DS1 there's actually a risk of losing your bloodstain, and the way the bonfires were placed there were very few areas where you wouldn't lose a good amount of progress upon dying. DS2 lacks both

Shrine of Amana and Iron Keep could be pretty fucking annoying to die in during your first blind run.

Also, I think you're underestimating a shitter's ability to get fucked repeatedly in the same area. A friend of mine ran out of effigies in Black Gulch because he went there straight after the last giant and didn't realize there were other paths, safe to say, he probably didn't think the health penalty was a "very minor inconvenience".

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>>148270651
>>148271171

>>148271061
the same way you parry scythes. you can't parry the spin2win or the WA

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Could I get some help with my PvE/PvP pyro build?

More specifically I'm not sure how high I should go for Endurance/Attunement/Vigor & what fourth ring I should be using.

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>>148270563
Perhaps you want a different weapon art for other situations (RHH, Gundyr's). Or longer length for ez mode spacing (Winged K***ht Halberd, Black K***ht Halberd). Or if you're an INT build there's the Immolation Tinder. But the Lucerne is still one of if not the best halberds in the game right now

>>148270841
>in DS1 there's a real risk of losing your bloodstain
Yeah? It's the same in 2.
>Rings
You knew that you could just buy Rings of sacrifice from Oswald, right?

Also, in DS1 you only lose your souls, in DS2 you'll lose health which makes whatever encounter you just died to even harder.

I recently watched a Let's Player get totally reamed by Dark Souls 2 due to the heatlh decrease mechanic so bad that he had to go back and grind for gear so he could get past Forest of the Fallen Giants.

Manikin chainstuns are the biggest bullshit. Holy hell.

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>>148269302
I miss griefing the SHIT out of people in BB.
Maybe i should buy ps+ for a month and go back for a bit.

>>148269772
I think the chasm is just a chasm that has abyss seeping into it. The abyss is just, well, the abyss. Pure, endless nothingness.

>>148270810
If you could still use way of blue I'd have no problem with that

>>148271374
Isn't a Heavy Glaive pretty good?

>>148271314
15 end (20 max depending on the weap.)
lvl vig for cuck sake

>>148269302
The changes made are because of marketing
They all got taken down out of shame by now but when Des and Ds1 were released 8 out of 10 reviews were negative saying the game is clunky or whatever other excuse people needed for not getting past taurus demon, throw invaders on top of it and that's a game that will turn off retarded people who will then generate negative word of mouth resulting in lost unit sales
Gimp the fuck out of invaders, make rollspam and healing as overpowered as possible, and allow people to fraud their way through the game with 2-3 phantoms and all those people who were complaining are now this guy
>>148268863