/twg/ - Total War General

First for BESTMEN thursday

Whats a good army comp for fighting stunties as the empire?

>>148284371
Spearmen.

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Do not meddle with this man's destiny, alright?
Thanks.

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>Asrai still not announced

>>148284371

karl + 19 Demigryphs, maybe some ranged if they have gyros.

Genevieve Dieudonné legendary hero when?

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>reminder that if you're not willing to bend over and take it in the ass from Sigvald, you're fucking gay

Official Sigvald theme:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QXay1pdfQpI

>>148284371
Load up on as much armor piercing and anti-infantry as you can.

>>148284505
He got killed by hochland, ostland, and a half stack of dwarfs in my last campaign.

Chaos defeated and I never fought them.

>>148284371


Cannons, handgunners and outriders.

Shit sucks when fighting tem melee thery're durable as fuck so you gotta get that armor pen damage in on them from the flanks.

Heavy cavalry charges are nearly fucking useless on them.

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>>148284812
>it will never be 2006 ever again
I wasn't prepared for this nostalgia, anon.
;____;

>>148285031
>heavy cav useless

what about demis?

>>148285271
Demis kill everything.

>>148285271


Eh well they're in their own special little place of killing anything, anywhere, regardless of context.

>>148285221


It will go down in history as a producer of dank memes, before dank memes were invented.

What army composition should I use as Avars?

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D- don't look senpai! >_>

>>148286832
I want to smell her ass.

so what do you think would help chaos feel more like an actual tide of destruction, instead of a 1-3 army annoyance?

what if the units were already cheaper than they are, and growth wasn't taken away for starting a new army?

Higher corruption rate?

Starting off with all of Norsca as allies?

>>148286832

nudity mod when?

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>Playing VC
>Watch helplessly as the Warriors of Chaos rip and tear through the Empire
>Too busy fighting my own wars against the Border Princes and Dwarven shits
>Chaos is sieging Altdorf
I'm sorry, Karl. We'll never have the proper conclusion to the Vampire Wars.Why does this keep happening; the Chaos invasion hasn't even properly started, you Empire fuck.

>>148288208

make some cities/provinces be special wargoals whose destruction/defense would cause different events to happen (spawning chaos stacks, spreading corruption or just giving a temporary buff event) like from destroying middenheim and putting out Ulric's fire.

>>148288208

Doesn't need much.

Just a slight tweak to make it actually try to win and expand instead of retardedly beelining for the player, getting chewed to bits on the way.

Even the gang of slavs doing Call of Warhammer did this better with a ton of stacks just spawning all up in your shit.

Has anyone here done any type of scripting for the newer total wars? I wanna add a population mechanic to warhammer but I can't find any good tutorials for it.

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>>148288549


You're a cuck Mannfred. I'd rather have my Empire fall to chaos shits than have your false claim to emperor fulfilled.

Is is blood or cock you suck? Can't remember.

t.The Franz

Official Imperial Inquisition theme:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fe93CLbHjxQ

>>148289918
>Not this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NUMkcBctE7c

>>148289086

pretty sure Mitch, a well renown modder, created a population system for rome 2/atilla. Not sure if its out yet, but Mitch actually works for CA now, so hopefully the next historical title will add something of the sort

>>148289301

Go back to feltching your griffon's furry asshole you golden-plated ponce.

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They are coming, hordes of mindless killing, raping, sacking, burning, and shitting monsters.
>From the woods
>Screams and cry's
>Bleats and howls
>BEASTMEN COME!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XL0YWTPDMUI
Is your body ready TWG?

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>>148290980

Nah man.

Just did a quest battle and a fucking giant wrecked my terrorgheist!

Are terrorgheists shit or some shit?

>>148291428
vc is shit

>>148291552
Blood knights are fucking dope and lore of death is good but everything else is shit. My meat shield of grave guards get fucking shit on by everything except goblins.

I cant imagine facing off against chaos with these shit heads.

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"Hi, I'm Zombie Joe and I'd like to remind you that here in Vampire-City we like to HARGLBRLAGHLRRRRGRRRRR...."

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>>148291740

All flying army. Trust me.

>>148291965
Like Vargheists and fell bats? How does that work against chaos heavy infantry?

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>>148292096

It breaks the AI, so it handles everything quit well.

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NO


SLEEP


TILL... Thursday?

>>148293164
The treehugger is going to win that fight, just letting you know.

>>148293432
Yes, because it's mechanically impossible for that beastman to get the axe over his head and down on his target without hitting the hornblade.

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>>148293432
Bestigors are a pretty hardy bunch. Beastmen are pretty known for shrugging mortal strikes for smaller races and just getting pissed at it, assuming its not an ungor if course.

Elves are always rather squishy

>>148293685
That and the axeblade was going to hit behind the elf anyways.

>>148293685
He doesn't really need to hit him with the axe. Even if he takes that arrow in the gullet that is gonna be half ton of rape made flesh crashing into a squishy elf.

>>148293971
Beastman is going to fall on his face because of that stupid hornblade, he also has forwards momentum so the elf just has to duck and slide forwards, then stab it in the spine, gg

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>>148293773
Looks like it to me, also he can literally hit him with anything and still gore him

>>148294370
duck + slide forwards.

also, you forgot the bottom of the axe handle, which is what everyone is pointing at.

>>148294263
I know elves are supposed to be super speedy and shit but his position is all wrong to try to duck and move forward, if anything he seems like he's about to fall backwards.

>>148294620
he can move towards the foreground or background too, there's no 2d limitation

>>148293720
This.
Elves are skilled but not very resistant.
Unless they're only lightly/moderately wounded and helped off the battlefield, in which case they'll most certainly recover.

>>148294370

what are the point of the blades all over the armor?

Just to look extra edgy? If their armor IS a weapon, why do they need a dedicated weapon? Can't they just run at someone and impale them like 4 times?

>>148294370
t. furry

>>148294695
>Just to look extra edgy?

You do know what Warhammer is, right?

>>148294695
if we really have to mix in realism with warhammer i'd like to remind you the warhammer universe consumes china's steel production quota 10 times over and any chaos warrior would be instantaneously hospitalized from being crushed by their own helmets

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G O B L I N S

>>148294854

I'm not saying that it should be realistic, i'm just pointing out that its a wee bit redundant.

I mean, it's not like you see witch hunters carry around 8 non-functional pistols alongside their usable gun

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>>148294695

Spiked armor is great for helping the charge but you need a weapon to attack through armor and shields and offer some defense. A little redundancy is alright. And it is also a terror weapon as well, Plus chaos, orcs, everyone loves spikes

>>148295619

looking at this pictures really makes me hope CA adds more variety to the empire units.

asides from the floppy hats, I'd really like to see soldiers wearing those caps, and have more skulls integrated into their look

>>148296328
Good luck pal. We're getting pumped and dumped, and good luck trying to import any models.

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Pic realted, mongol rocket launchers. They are my favorite unit.

Are they in Medieval 1 Total War? If not, why? I bought Medieval 1 thinking that they'd be in here

Also are there any similar units in Rome or Medieval 1? I can't afford Miedieval 2 yet

should I start an Empire campaign right now, or wait until Beastmen drop?

>>148289301

Karl may be the smuggest anime in the old world.

>>148291428

>Monster that walks out melees monster that flies.

This should not be surprising to you.

>>148297032

Go for it, empire campaign can be beat in 1 or 2 days if you know what you're doing.

>>148296421
>>Good luck pal. We're getting pumped and dumped, and good luck trying to import any models.
Well there's always the possibility of getting DLC units, which would give us more options to mix units up.

>>148291428

>slow moving combat unit beats Terrorgheist in melee

No shit. The Terrgheist can fly and move incredibly fast, and has a bunch of extra utility stuff like regeneration.

The giant has nothing but being an expensive beatstick.

Only lords hsould be able to beat one and only then at a high level and with decent gear.

>>148291740

Try using the Death Star. It works a treat in campaign.

>charge infantry in the back with shock cavalry in Attila
>a dozen of people dies on impact, thirty more in following three seconds
>charge infantry in the back with shock cavalry in TWW
>everybody flies away but stays alive
Weak as fuck

Reminder that AE will come out NEVER, and FotE has been abandoned

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>>148298464

>So is nomads in Attila just spam horse archers, lancers, and then some infantry to pretend you formed a line?

>>148296937
Just pirate it and buy it when you've the cash.

I've been up and drinking for over 24 hours now I should be exhausted but I'm not.

What the fuck do I do?

>>148284812
Clearly this isnt his theme.

This is - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B81_1J2Swk0

>>148293720
If its a Glade-guard possibly, if its a Waywatcher the beastmen is fucked.

>>148299865
Drink more, what a silly question.

>>148299865
Try drinking 700ml of vodka

So do think we are getting beastmen or just some shitty hero?

>>148301105

inb4 shitty beastmen hero

>>148300898
>>148301029


I am currently trying these solutions.

Braise Sigmar.

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>>148300693
Those guys are really good for a skirmisher, BS5 either double shooing or ignoring armor but also T3, no armor. The damn epitome of being a wood elf for sure.

>>148300450


All the themes are relevant to Sigvald. If human emotion is to be had, Slaanesh is about it.

>>148298821
More or less. YOu need decent infantry to take higher tier settlements though so if you play as huns have one army with a lot of uar warriors and onagers and use it as your siege army. Keep all your other armies horsefuckery-tier and raep in the field.

How do you unlock more quest battles in campaign? Is it by level? I just finished an empire campaign but I;ve only done 2 of the 7 quests for gelt and I want to try to finish them but if I have to grind it out to level him up I might just do a new campaign.

>>148300898
>>148301029


What happens if you're up for more than two days straight? I've never done it before but it's about to happen.

I just finished my empire campaign after 60 hourse, what should I do next?

>>148301968
Extreme exhaustion. You need to start worrying only when you get to around 4 days.

>>148301968
Unless youre sick in some form not much, im not a doc but its only minor things at first.
Heart-range changes, your reaction time goes down, concentration etc.
It takes like 7-10 days for some serious shit to happen I think, like nails/hair falling out organ failure.

>>148301968
if you stay awake for 7 days without food or water you become enlightened

>>148302365
>>148302423

Ok I guess it's just time to start an Orc campaign until I pass out.

>>148302495

I can feel the warp overtaking me, it is a good painl.

>>148301968
Don't know about staying up but if you actually drink 0.7l of vodka and don't throw up you'll most likely end up in a hospital

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>>148302983

Note to self: never ally with Talabecland again.

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FATHER OF CROWS

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>>148303492
Either that or you're a slav

What's the best current overhaul mod for Attila? The FAQ is rather ambiguous about it, I'm not sure if it's up to date.

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>>148306780
Warhammer

>>148283953

WHEN IS BRETONNIA COMING!!

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WHAT ITS ONLY TURN 10

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>>148307035

Man I haven't even played Attila yet, I ain't dropping all those Denari on that.

>>148307192

GREEN IS BEST!

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>>148307192
just WAGHHH my shit up

>>148306780
Vanilla is fine.

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>>148307116
Who cares!
Gimme Beastmen to pillage, rape and defile the villages, cities and holy sites of human fucking shits.

TOMORROW

>>148307395

What if I said Radious is fun

>>148289301

"I would rather the world end if I can't have my way"

That's literally Mannfred's canonical position and the reason he backstabbed everyone at the end.

beastmen. more like get absolutly fucked up by my gunlinemen lmao

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>>148308145
>absolutly fucked up by my gunlinemen
Good luck doing that when they ambush your useless human ass innawoods or raid/sack/raze your undefended villages!

is empire of sigmar worth a shit?

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>>148308542
>he thinks he'll be doing the ambushing

Idea for Beastmen: combine the raid and ambush stance.

>>148308998

also going into ambush stance doesn't cost movement points, and high percentage of ambush success

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>>148308941
Can't wait for the most op form of ambushing for Beastmen and Wood Elves :^)
Maybe +25% or 50% ambush chance and combined with raiding or unit replenishment.
We'll see tomorrow if something worthwhile gets revealed

Bros, I'm playing the dwarfs thinking it would be pretty chill, but Grimgor just showed up with a rape stack. He has like a million archers and a gold chevron doom diver unit. He out numbers me 3-1 and it's only turn 12. Should I go for an ambush or fight him straight on? I've tried 2 battles and I take care of his units just fine, I just done have an answer for Grimgor himself and his doom diver fuckery. He kills my general 1v1 like it's nothing and his arty is cucking me from a mile away. What do?

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>>148309842
>What do?
Spread wide for the Irondick

>>148309842
rout his army, don't attack him. vanguard a miner behind the door diver.

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>>148309842
>play dwarfs
>have to replace the generals in my army every turn

Enjoy

>>148286832
White pantsu? Huh, I thought a goth like her would wear black with garterbelts

>>148288060

Would she looks better if modded with redhead texture?

>playing tatw
>get attacked by gundabad
>okay no problem
>ballistas fire at the trolls
>HURRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR
>get overrun by a fuckload of trolls because they didn't fire a single fucking shot

>>148310073
That doesn't stop him from rushing my meatshield of manlets and fucking them up. His units rout, and them come right back 10 seconds later.

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>>148310240
>>HURRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR

>>148301243
Would Braised Sigmar taste good?

>>148310248
trust me, I've dealt with him thousands of times. you're only going to bring him down if you ignore him and focus on the army.

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NOT ENOUGH BEASTMEN POSTING, /TWG/ NEEDS MORE PEE AND POO

>>148310347
Should I try and ambush his army or just say fuck it and corner my units and pray to the manlet gods?

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>>148310287
Yes, I'm mad. All the ballistas had to do was shoot the goddamn trolls like I ordered them too. They had a clear shot and the high ground. I have no idea why they didn't.

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>>148304434
What legendary lords will they have except for pic related and probably Khazrak

>>148310339
No, tastes like proto-germanic retard.
The burgomeisters are a genetic improvement from Sigmar and probably his folk. Unless he was uniquely a stupid git amongst them.

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>>148310617
Gorthor
Taurox
Morghur

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I haven't played since just before the blood and gore DLC since I got busy with SMTIV. How much has balance changed? Are vampires still a joke or can they punch at the weight level of everyone else?

>>148310467
>ambushing
>making the range between you and him smaller

have a think

>>148310565
Just autoresolve. TATW is horribly unbalanced. What faction?

Where are my skaven?

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>>148311131
in the game as a random event
better buy some DLC goy-goy

>>148310838
Vampires were never a joke, unless they were AI and you abused their glaring weakness.
Most of the largest changes were nerfs to the vampires and they weren't strong.

>>148310838

They got nerfed actually but also received blood knights which are the fastest heavy cav in the game.

>>148311359
Are blood knights decent then?

>>148311260
Gotcha. Well, I should really get back to my Dwarf campaign.

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>>148311193
>literally have skavenblight on the map
I DON'T WANNA WAIT I'LL PAY RIGHT NOW

>>148311405
They're certainly not the monsters they are on the tabletop. They're also anti-large with lances which is a bit weird. A fairly useful niche for their army but their price isn't justified for how middling-high they are.

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So what are the chances we actually get Beastmen announced? That seems pretty lofty.

>>148311405

I'd say they're good but a bit underwhelming. They really needed armor piercing damage to justify their cost, but they fuck up pretty much any non-demigryph cav unit as well as any other large units. The speed is awesome though, they've got well over 70.

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>>148311537
it's going to be the huntsmaster for empire

if you believe otherwise you're a stupid cow shit

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>>148311621
>>148311495
Oh, that kinda sucks. Back when I played Ogres, blood knights were some of the only cav I feared.

>>148311537
The old leaked and only mildly denied release order plan had Beastmen as the first DLC.
They're probably the most reasonable faction to suddenly implement.

If you're curious, the plan outlined, Beastmen DLC, after awhile Bretonnia will but updated into playable; and then the Wood Elves/Campaign pack set around these three factions.
So something around there. Might be getting some paid faction before Bretonnia is properly implemented, might be Beastmen/Wood Elves double combo, might not.
Beastmen are the most likely though.

>>148311746
Beastmen being pushed first just feels so weird. No one actually plays them. Why would anyone buy them?

>>148311719
Why not both? If bloodapalooza was anything to go by, there is a theme to the coincided freelc and dlc releases, and the shoe certainly fits with that letter spelling out beastmen as plain as day.

>>148311719
You wanna bet on that?

>>148311719

Obviously it'll be the empire hero, but if you seriously don't think they're going to be releasing paid DLC alongside the free shit, and if you fail to realize how the teaser they released alludes 100% to both beastmen and the huntsmarshal, you should just be euthanized and put out of your misery.

>>148311829

People didn't play them on the tabletop because they were outdated, same with bretonnia. But people would play both factions in total war because they offer variety and different playstyles (at least for beastmen). Chaos dwarfs though... I don't know why anybody would be excited for that shit.

>>148311897
>>148311912
>>148311919
we'll see tomorrow you moo fucks

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>>148312025
POO POO
PEE PEE
TOMORROW BEASTMEN DLC

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>>148312023
>hating on Chaos Dwarfs
Let me guess, you like Dumb Kangz?

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>>148312320

>>148312025

I'm not even a beastmen fan my nigga, I can just pick up on plainly obvious hints when they're presented to me.

>>148311719
what the fuck is a huntmaster?

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>>148312512
It feels like he's a master of something. But fuck, I can't think what he'd be the master of...

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>>148311719
Time to hunt empire fucking shits

>>148312320

I like any tabletop faction with a legitimate roster/army book. What do chaos dwarfs have?

>>148312512
>huntsmarshal

>>148312560
>>148312619
Does an Empire Huntsmaster/Huntsmarshal even exist as a unit?

>>148312593
>What do chaos dwarfs have?
a legitimate roster/army book

do mooshits cry milk?

we'll see tomorrow.

Can't wait for furfags to mass suicide tomorrow

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>>148312720

>mfw they don't add Beastmen

Anyone have the Faction/Lord roll image?

Why the fuck would you want beastmen what a boring fucking faction just a chaos reskin and these cucks will eat it up

>>148313045
Sum up total war fans pretty well t.bh

>>148312670
http://warhammerfantasy.wikia.com/wiki/Markus_Wulfhart

legendary lord

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>>148312670

>>148311719
Are the icons of the background any indication of what will be in said DLC?

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>>148312720
blood, mostly blood ;_;

>>148313138
>>148313206
Oh, as a legendary hero. Cool, never saw that mini before

>>148313045
>just a chaos reskin
Harpies, actual ranged units, Cygors, Jabberslythes, different magic, probably completely different horde gameplay.
Early game against Middenland instead of Norscan fucking shits

>>148312670

>a legitimate roster/army book

I meant that to be a literal question, as in I'm genuinely curious. Reading this though and I'm pleasantly surprised with what they could have. http://warhammerfantasy.wikia.com/wiki/Chaos_Dwarf

>>148312670
>Forge world
>legitimate
sure thing CA, here are my thousands upon thousands of dollars

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> Tomb Kings still not announced

>>148313446
Yes
>Unit: VC Blood Knights
>Hero: Empire, probably Huntsmarshal
>Magic: probably Lore of Beasts for Beastmen
>LL: VC dunno which one could be
>Hero: Empire, probably Master Engineer?
>Magic: Lore of Life for Bretonnia maybe?
>LL: confirmed Wurrzag
>Race: pretty much confirmed Bretonnia
>Magic: Lore of Shadow is the only one left
>Hero: Empire, dunno what there's left

>>148313573

Why do people think forge world stuff isn't legitimate, when the units are both fieldable and legal in a proper tabletop match?

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>>148313539
There's 'Tamurkhan: The Throne of Chaos' which is from Forge World which further is part of GW.
So there's no actual army book like Empire or Warriors of Chaos have but it's legit and has enough content to make Chaos Dwarfs a proper faction.

>>148313573
>le Forge World isn't legitimate meme

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>>148313661
no one cares

>>148313662
Why every hero will be for the Empire?

>>148313794

Well thanks senpai, I'll no longer shitpost against chaos dwarfs. They even seem to have a more interesting and varied roster than Bretonnia. So I guess I'm going to just shitpost about Bretonnia.

>>148313923
Is there anything left to stink?

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>>148313964
He's reading far too much into the backgrounds. Which is really silly given that they apparently chose to indicate everything except magic which is a bunch of forest shots for everything.

They obviously wouldn't only release heroes for one single faction, and they way they tease it, it wouldn't be boring enough to basically be a new empire mage for every new lore which is almost what it would have to be for every hero to be empire.

>>148313923
Wrong again

>>148312882
Anyone?

>>148314009
Shitpost about High Elves. Their general roster is almost Radious levels of boring.

>>148314214

The forest shots are important, at least in the case of the free race icon. The trees are from what shows on the campaign map when a Bretonnian faction owns the province.

>>148313794

Do edgelord dorfs still have hobgoblins like they did in the old days?

Edgedorfs invented black orcs you know

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Right /twg, how would these factions fare if dropped into Warhammer world:

Britain from ETW
Imperial France from NTW
Oda from S2TW
Choshu from FoTS
Pontus from R2
Huns from Attila

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>>148313683
>>148313794
I don't actually think it's illegitimate. I just say it is because it's ammunition to use against stunties.

Has anyone figured out how to unlock Archaon? What do they mean by slaughter 10 sets of captives?

>>148314341
Perhaps, I wouldn't notice it to that extent. Bretonnians are confirmed for it without any sort of visual tease.

>>148314412
Don't bring anything from FoTS anywhere else. Everything else will be blown off the battlefield in minutes.

>>148313923

Tomb Kings are gonna be one of the most fun and varied factions assuming they add in everything they have. You sure as shit should care. They're a fuckload more interesting than the Vamps.

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Fee fi poo pum, fellow Furkin™ players! I hope you're all as e-stag-tic as I am for the announcement this Herds-day!

Say, I have a great idea! Let's have our own moo-gration, just like a real Wyldthrong™ would! The pastures here are looking thinner every day, but the grass has never been greener in /gsg/! Plenty of room to hoot and holler, and if slaughter is your thing there's entire worlds full of civilizations to murder! Why be a bull trapped in the dinky china shop of the Empire when you could be destroying all of China itself!

Now is not the time to act sheepish. I'll get a horn-start, but don't wait too long. You don't want to be left behind in this stampede!

>>148314575

>t.Settra

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PISS AND SHIT

>>148314575
Tomb kings are of course more interesting, though the big creature mania of the later editions is an unfortunate development away from quality. But Vampire counts are pretty great as well. In game they don't really play like on the TT without the upper limits you can push vampire units and characters to in the TT.

>>148314504
You have to sacrifice them, the tooltip is misleading

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>>148314575
no

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>>148314594
>this fucking text
That's a raping

>>148311719
Forthcoming FREE DLC

Not $$$DLC


so prepare your anus for the upcoming apocalypse

t. tzeentch

do skull takerz just keep showing up periodically?

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>>148308143
>ET
>canon

>>148291740

Blob and spam Nehek. And fuck infantry, go monsters. I raped the campaign using nothing but terrorgheists, varghulfs and vargheists. And lord + vamp in every army.

You can fuck 3 full chaos armies with one army like that.

>>148314954
That is a list of only free releases, only in the order of free releases. We've already seen one minor DLC alongside the first update. So we'll definitely be seeing more before they're done.

>>148315185
Bist du der typ aus /deutsch/ ?

>>148315079
I think so, yes.
Can't wait for Beastmen herds also popping up every few turns in the Drakwald, Dark Elves raiding your western shores and Bretonnia declaring war on you because you insulted a duke's ugly wife.
Playing Empire will become a big clusterfuck in the end!

>>148315404
seig heil you nazi fuck

>>148315404
oui oui oui

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>>148315404

>kholek with two shaggoth bodyguards

This is pretty disgusting, gotta say.

>>148314575
>They're a fuckload more interesting than the Vamps.

I guess that's why vamps were 10 times more popular in tabletop.

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Right /twg, what should be added and fixed to the Attila/R2 dumbed down naval gameplay so TWarhammer naval battles actually fun when its eventually added (and they will when Ulthuan and Naggaroth added to the map)


Also, Those who says naval battles aren't fun nor important never plays FoTS.

>>148315838

Naval battles were trash in Rome II so everybody keeps saying that they always sucked. When in Empire and Shogun II they were good.

And WH fleets are going to be much more varied than in previous games.

>>148314509
So you're saying a full naval bombardment from bunch of Ironclads and Frigates are more powerful than any TWW spells?

I'm sure with Armstrong, Parrot, and Gatling effectiveness, but would their line infantry like Kiheitai be enough to drive TWW melee units at bay? The only FoTS melee unit that are good is Shogitai.

>>148315386

Should use crypt horrors as a mainline then, they're trolls but without the shit leadership.

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>>148314594

>>148316138

In campaign it's better to focus on one tree.

>>148316117
Even line infantry are absolute murder machines. A single volley from a good unit like red/black bears on ultra funds often takes out 50 men. That and mechanically, armour meaning absolutely nothing to them, means that almost all melee units are fucked

>>148316310

The monster tree is shit anyway and you should be focusing on the economy tree first and foremost.

>>148313539
This is kind of why, like they're more or less the fun Dwarf faction.

You've got the industrialist/slaver element, a focus on heavy artillery, Monstrous cavalry, heavy infantry, access to magic. and big hats

While the New DLC could just be the Hunt Master, i'm not sure because really, what the fuck would he even do? Why pick him over any of the other heros for the empire?

>>148316117
Line infantry would shred them as well. The only thing I could see making a difference are things like the terrorgeist depending on exactly how much entity damage you would have the the line infantry do

>>148316763
You can pimp out the dogs to be superb cavalry with just a few techs

>>148315829
>dracula is more popular than the mummy

What a surprise

>>148317007
There are game updates where they add new shit and there is DLC. They are separate things.

You could have him buff ranged units and be a good ranged unit himself unlike accusation meme man.

>>148294370
That's assuming he stays stationary in the air, but you forget he's rapidly flying forward.

>>148316763

Lahmias tree is best, but after that you should focus on one upgrade tree. And monsters are just the best for campaign.

>>148315838
I think the main thing is to make them into a short but fun mini game. I feel thats been one of the mistakes with the older games, they tried turning them into these epic battles like the land combat. But naval combat is a lot more unintuitive.

With TW:Warhammer I wouldn't mind if they just ripped off Battle Fleet Gothic honestly. What they did is fun, quick and works and I could see it slotting in well with a total war game.

>>148314412
Britain and France crush the old world with superior weaponry, economy, organisation and numbers.

Oda, Pontus and Huns get blown out due to low technology and/or low numbers, getting absorbed by one of the bigger human nations at best.

Choshu becomes a small, but powerful and valued economical and technological leader (modernized version) or struggles like the others (start of the game version).

>>148314412
Britain and France would do well against other humans and Orcs, decent vs. Chaos at large, but potentially struggle a lot vs. the Dwarfs (who have fugn flying machines) and surprising have a lot of weakness to Vampires. Vortex spells, swarms of bats, morale-shattering effects of fighting zombies and ghosts, and all that monstrous infantry would fug them up bad. Hero-sniping with the lore of death would also be particularly devastating against 18th and 19th century armies that really rely on their commanders. On the other hand, snipers would be great vs. the vampires and necromancers.

Strangely enough, if Bretts actually had their lady's protection bonus in play where they can randomly shrug off ranged attacks and lots of pegasus knights, they could probably fuck up nappy and old nosey pretty well.

Huns, Pontus, and Oda really depend on just who they fight. Ultimately I don't think they would make much of a difference, except maybe huns - there's lots of potential for a horde army, the main issue would be competition.

Anything from FotS just memes on the setting though unless they get swarmed somehow by monstrous infantry, so again, VC or maybe Brets are best suited to fighting them.

>>148318734
Dwarfs would also have the weakness of being stunted gnomes compared to French and Englishmen.

>>148318734
>decent vs. Chaos at large

You guys always forget about corruption and the like, the first months would be a fucking disaster on that front and the "empire" or any other state would come out of that a fraction of its starting power

>>148318849
If you're looking at it from the perspective of magic being new and influencing everyone then I feel shit like Rome(for example) would adopt the gods and the magic and you would have based Chaos characters like Pious Augustus rather than faggy Chaos characters like anything viking inspired.

So I got three armies of Swordsmen, Spearmen and Shields, and some Crossbows. One has two Outriders, and a Bright Wizard, one has a Warrior Priest, and two mortars, and one has four Empire Knights.

My Doomstacks with Franz consist of eight Greatswords, Two Reiksguard, Two Halberd Demigryphs, 2 Halberdiers, a Celestial Wizard, a Steam Tank, and Three Helstorm Batteries because they are cool as fuck.

Gelt has two captains, three Reiksguard, four Halberdiers, six Greatswords, two Handgunners, and two Great Cannons.

I'm currently making a new army with a confederated (and surprisingly well specced) lvl 15 Todbringer, so far it has a Steam tank, Three Demigryph Halberds, three Outriders, four Handgunners, Five Greatswords, and I'll prolly throw in a Helblaster and some Mortars.

How fucked am I? The Endtimes have just began.

>>148318830
Dwarfs have not-dogshit artillery, gyros, and at the end of the day can hide in their holds whereas probably only Napoleon himself would bother trying to adapt 19th century warfare into sieging a fugn active volcano lair.

>>148318849
I'm not forgetting, that's why I say "at large." They can deal with Varg stacks effortlessly and waves of heavy-armored warriors aren't too scary vs. line infantry, but corruption is a factor.

That said, these armies are no strangers to marching around in conditions that are actively trying to kill them (more Brits died to disease than spears in Africa), repressing the populace (in the event of Chaos uprisings), or maintaining order in the ranks. They would be surprisingly prepared for this shit.

>>148318981
Chaos rome would be fantasy iron warriors, that would be extremely cool but it would also create one of the most obnoxious fandoms ever

>>148284505
I killed Archaon and all I got was a pigeon plucker pendant.

>>148319042
You can properly deal with Archaon with your two best stacks, if it was just you and chaos.
Chaos isn't too big of an issue really, everyone helps you out substantially.
Dealing with the 23rd Varg multi-doomstack invasion at the same moment a couple of dorf factions declare war on you because they're fucking greedy worthless cuck stuntie faggot shits. Or dealing with a Greenskins in a game where the main Dorf faction sucked ass are much harder than Archibald.

>>148318296
>Britain
> early 18th century
>numbers

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>first 20v20 battle in 70 hours
>Archaon vs Karl Franz
>"boy, I probably should take pictures of the insane battles that will happen!"
>half the chaos army stay back will the other make blocks to attack me
>mfw shitty pictures

>>148315404
Nein

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>want to start a new empire campaign
>have to wait till tomorrow for the LL to come out

>turn 76 as chaos
>It's all gone to shit
>AI friend keeps razing settlements so I can't get any funds
>Rank 7 Marauders out the ass
>Lost my second lord in battle so having to train on up to full strength
>The only places let to raid are the cities with their ranks of great swords

I'm not going to make it...

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Roll'em fuckbois

Anyway to remove campaign map fog effect?

>>148320965
R

>>148320965
roll cuz i'm playing vampire deus vult

>>148320965

Vamp time

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>>148320965
Gimme Beastie Boys!

>>148321893
Next best thing

>>148321684
The Everrolled

>>148322127

I fucking hate playing as chaos, but with how insanely strong Archaon can become, it'll be fine.

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what are these

>>148322248
CA being jews

>Need to sacrifice 10 sets of captives of Archaon
>My lords can never manage to take any captives to sacrifice to begin with

fugg

>>148320965
ayy

>Entire Empire will be at war with beastmen
>Empire cities will be razed before turn 40
>Chaos will descend upon an empty world
That new hero really has to stir shit up if Empire is to survive

>>148320965
pls no chaos

>>148323463
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K2rwxs1gH9w

>>148323191
>implying they won't be shit at autoresolve due to all their units lacking armor.

Any mods that alter AI build order? In across of multiple campaigns I rarely saw other races fielding their top units and it's because they build some weird shit in their provincial capitals, like wasting a slot on level 3 barrack and building a fucking tavern with some granary thrown in a mix. Meanwhile, buildings that require level 4-5 settlements rot away in shitty cities.

>>148304434
>>148310617
>>148304434
Khazrak, Malagor and another in the initial Race Pack (They said it'll be bigger than the Chaos Pack, but I imagine the LL count will stay the same).

Morghur maybe when the Athel Loren Campaign Pack is released.

>play Europa Barbarorum 2 for the first time
>build up southern consular army, kick Pyrrhus and his gay greeks off the peninsular
Fuck yeah, this was really expensive though, gotta wait a few turns before I con-
>dudes in the north declare war
>they have 2 full stacks against my 10 unit northern consular army

fuck me lads what do i do? Defense in depth?

>>148324027
you put Hoplites infront of the gate/breaches, then you go afk and watch some TV or have dinner.
come back and click "ok" on the victory screen.

>>148311719
>>148312025
For the last three games we've always got a Paid DLC alongside FreeLC and vice versa. Denying it is retarded.

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>>148323618
>don't pay for bleatmen DLC
>get free bleatman LL with athel loren DLC
>can only play as that LL in a one man horde

Well fuck I guess I should've payed.

>>148313206
>Fur Hat

Kislev modders rejoice.

>>148322248
A spin-off mobile series.

Kingdom ain't bad as far as casual games go, but it's still shit compared to Total War as a whole.

>>148324791
>every mod ends up being hoards of men with recolors of the same fur hat

>>148320965
Roll for chaos or orks? Something I haven't played properly yet

>>148324636
I'm guessing he won't be playable at all unless you own the Race Pack, I feel like CA would be due a controversy at that point and that should get panties riled.

>>148325012
Reroll pls, why is it always rolling fucking empire

How do I git gud at Chaos?

What should I be doing/building towards first?

I keep finding myself screwing things up.

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I get 7 more fps on dx12 with my r9 290

Not bad at all

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>>148314594
Congrats, this is the most autistic post I've seen in a while

>>148325248
Don't raze I see people say
well sack first then raze

ah yes, skaven

Every faction is great in it's own way and we should all get together in a huge orgie sponsored by slaanesh and love each other.

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NAVAL
COMBAT
WHEN

>>148291740
>My meat shield of grave guards get fucking shit on by everything except goblins.
>gets shit on
Wat. How?

>>148325248
Always get the +growth skill. Get the warrior building asap, you can get it earlier by dismantling the one giving you marauders and dogs as soon as you have enough to build it in that slot (growth cost increases for each filled slot). You don't need to take on the dwarfs in the north, and you don't need to tour all of Norsca.

>>148284505
>CA will never fix the clipping

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

>>148326169
Does it really bother you that much?

>>148326217
It bothers me massively. Half is face is clipped through his neckplate.

ok so I've played every total war game, except shogun 1 and atilla, rome 2 kind of burned me out then I went on a grand strategy binge, so anyway, long story short, is this game worth buying?
do units still blob or do they hold formation?
can units only kill each other with pre-animated duels?
is the ai good/not horribly broken?
also how much depth does campaign management have?
is this a game thats only saved with mods?

>>148326286
But why is it that much of a problem?
Obviously it would be nice if CA fixed that but there are about a million more important things than that

>>148325802
Would not be fair if they add in the elves.

>>148326358
Which one? Attila or Warhammer?

>>148326217
it bothers me too

>>148326358
You can make battle lines and stuff, but units tend to blob up really fast.
>can units only kill each other with pre-animated duels?
It's the other way around. No duels, more mosh pits.

Shame you missed out on Attila. It's still my favorite Total War.

>>148326553
Oh right, i assumed you were talking about Warhammer.

>>148326469
shit i forgot to write total warhammer, woops, that one
>>148326553
maybe I should check out atilla, also no duels is pretty neat, I mean, I dont mind them as long as they are used sparingly

>>148326395
Of course, doesn't make it less infuriating to see that CA fucked up the model and posing for the game's big villain.

It's something that would take the smallest tweak to fix.

>>148326936
Nobody is really presented with any character to properly define themselves as a villain. It's his voice that bothers me the most. Too barbaric.

>>148326705
Buy Attila when it's on sale or something. It's a classic Total War game.

Warhammer is more fast paced but with smoother gameplay and the best cav charges known to man.

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>>148327153
>Buy Attila when it's on sale or something. It's a classic Total War game.

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Lahmias should have some crazy diplomacy bonuses with humans.

I can see why nobody wants Mannfred to rule them, but cute little vampire girls?

>>148327290
Fun, flawed and unoptimized to hell and back.
Classic.

>>148327796

dumb animeposter

>>148327904

Go away Manny.

>>148327796
The Lahmians are mature women. It's their shota slaves that are the underaged aspect.

Child vampires are rare in the setting and completely crazy for the most part. Entirely unsuitable for any form of seduction or manipulation.

Mannfred is arguably a more sane and balanced person than Neferata, which says a lot given how batshit crazy Mannfred is.

>>148328013

Neferata has the body of 15-16y old girl. And it was mentioned few times that many of her handmaidens are very young.

People keep forgetting that in ancient times you were adult at 15. And people often married at 12-13.

>>148328013
>Mannfred is arguably a more sane and balanced person than Neferata

He was before they completely raped his lore in 8e and ET.

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>>148328127

TOO OLD

>>148328218

It's okay, they can shapeshift.

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>>148328127
Every last depiction of her is a milf.

>>148328217
I still kinda like him in the ET books. He has an ambition and it ends up driving him so far he just loses it.

>>148325883
>>148325523
Thank you guys!

>>148328314
>young queen who didn't even marry yet
>milf

And don't even try talking about GW minis. They make young elf girls look like grannies.

Bros I've been on a warhammer fantasy novel kick.
Just finished reading Giantslayer, which was ok. Too much mary sue shit though, i read all the prior gotrek and felix books when i was about fifteen 10 years ago.

Read skarsnik too, which I thought was fantastic. Bit of a laugh and gives a feel for life as a gobbo.

Any recommendations for other black library stuff? There any other greenskin-centric books?
Or anything with an interesting take on the setting? Not really too interested in standard empire is gud guize pulp.
Might go with one of the skaven books if there's no more greenskin stuff.

>>148326469
Well Warhammer is the new hotness but is a bit sparse on content right now. But does have 3 games worth of expansion and content in the works. But it's going to take years to get there

Attila is kind of a mixed bag that still runs poorly even on high end systems and wont get any more updates. But it does have all the content out there.

Guess it really depends on which setting you like more though both are fine.

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Anyone knows a good Rome2 mod that adds more animations? I tried looking it up on workshop, but there are only ones that make the already existing more frequent.

>>148328435
We're talking official art.

>>148328641
I don't know much about any Green skin books but the Thanquol books are pretty good.

Going to try and start getting into gotrek and felix myself this year

>>148328641
The Archaon stuff is pretty okay.
I'm a fan of stories where people fight the same enemies he does. Speaking philosophically.

>Roman army, best army

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wCBNxJYvNsY&feature=youtu.be

>>148329637
this is cool! Post more stuff like this. Its easy and not very time consuming.

>>148320965
Rolling my dwarf dick just got pushed in

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>>148329951
You probably deserved it.

>>148329637
>soldiers had to supply their own weapons and armour
Wasn't this only pre-marian? Before the model that video describes came into being?

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Sometimes it's nice to just look at the scenery while you wait for units to get in position

>>148329637
Why the fuck is it called a century if there's only 80 men in it ?

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What does this translate to?

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>get ambushed by inferior force of bathrobe ashigaru
>reinforcing superior force of bathrobe ashigaru
>superior force trickles in piecemeal from behind
ez Heroic Victory

>>148330372
OU<-UD OU-C<-<- DUC

you're welcome

>>148330372
Blood is Borrowed.

>>148330312
Was originally, it kept the same position in the order of battle but the number changed. Just a word kinda switching numeric definition, like the brigade.

>>148330476
this is a new one that just got posted

>>148330562
Really?

Fuck yeah you're right.

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>>148330372
POO PEE POO PEE

>>148329054

Her only official art is recent. And GW is run by retards in the recent years.

>>148330939
Based Rountree is making GW great again.

>>148328127
>>148328217
>>148328314
>>148328435

>young queen who didn't marry

She was married. She didn't have any kids, but she was in her twenties when Arkhan started teaching her sorcery.

>the Lahmians are mature women

There are female child Lahmians, however. It's not delved into, but presumably they dominate and enslave paedophiles among the nobility.

There are also male Lahmians, though they are extremely rare, and tend to do their own thing. There's some evidence that the Von Karstein's (a primarily male but more balanced bloodline) are an offshoot of the Lahmian bloodline.

>mannfred is arguably a more sane and balanced person

Hard to say. They both have their flaws. Nefereta is actually capable of caring for people other than herself though, whereas Mannfred is a sociopath through and through.

How do you ensure enough income to have some armies as Vampires?
I'm at turn 72, and I only have one decent stack and a mixed stack, with 4k income to spare, which I use every turn

>>148331121

Get a banshee/necromancer set up in every region, dont bother with tier 3 growth buildings aside from recruitment regions, focus on the income book first. Build Vampire keeps/necromancer things in every region.

>>148330372
Niggers tongued my anus.

>>148331027
Oh look faggot from /tg/.

>>148331121

>only two stacks
>at turn 72

Goddamn man. That's not how vampires work. Just throw zombies and skeletons at them.

Use the Death Star. It works really well in the campaign.