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Pirate man is perfectly balanced edition

>Steam group
http://steamcommunity.com/groups/R6GO

>Teamspeak for /vg/ operations
OperatorOperations.teamspeak.host
The password is: Operations

>Official news
http://rainbow6.ubi.com/siege/en-US/news/index.aspx


http://rainbow6.ubi.com/siege/en-us/updates/dustline.aspx

http://blog.ubi.com/rainbow-six-siege-post-launch-maps-operators-modes/

>Developer AMA Recap
http://forums.ubi.com/showthread.php/1349361-Developer-AMA-Recap

>Maps and drawing tools for all available gamemodes
http://www.r6maps.com/
http://rainbow6.ubi.com/siege/en-US/whiteboard/landing.aspx

>Weapons and Armor damage comparisons
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1fr6MsLNfjDlPESlHGUQxoRiR3yChpewKQAlsOHXG5A8/htmlview?usp=sharing&pref=2&pli=1&sle=true

>Known Issues:
http://forums.ubi.com/showthread.php/1332624-Known-Issues

>Basics of CQB Pastebin
http://pastebin.com/ECbQGdVk (embed) (embed)

>Steam group player list
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1nB6S5xtZFuAlnX24VG6IVvOYnI18oOlV2W0SPM3OjaE/edit?pli=1#gid=375665432

>Console group
PS4: Add dazint8 or Omegaplaya and join the /r6g/ community that way
Xbone: Add IMadSpykeI (the 'I' are capital 'i's)

>All the Classic Rainbow 6 games running on the latest engine, compatible with current windows, all maps, all modes.

http://www.legendsworld.net/shooter/game/11094

>WIP /r6g/ guide for crosshair overlays, tactics etc
http://hnng.moe/7Ik
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>>147943560

>overtime

>rook just puts down the a
Anon I am so sorry
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>>147942673
okay
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reminder if you're not diamond you're garbage and no amount of mental gymnastics will change that. but keep lying to yourself and pretend you know what you're talking about lmao
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>>147944072
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>>147944131
t. Copper
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hurr durr look at me i use auto shotguns because i cant aim and im a fucking faggot hurr
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>>147944529

how do you feel about pump users?
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>>147944584
They're honorable gentlemen
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>>147944584
pump shotguns are balanced
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>>147942748
>>147942956

It's the safest and most logical thing to do in such a situation. Five cops dead, more injured - do you risk the lives of others or do you perform a surgical, merciless strike on the killer?
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> netcode will never be fixed
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>>147945026
with ubisoft in charge propably not
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>>147944991
Oh blowing him the fuck up was definitely the answer
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>make kill hole
>teammate keeps trying to reinforce it
>tell him to stop over voice and text
>keeps trying
>shoot his foot
>tries to throw a nitro at me
>walk away
>tries to reinforce it again
>down him
>pick him up
>he kills me
>i get kicked
>they were premade
nothing more cancerous than playing with a premade of 4 retards
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>>147945334
>tfw your perceived threat level will never be so high that the opposing force will resort to high explosives to make sure of your demise.
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>overtime
>4-4
>10-3-3
>twenty seconds into round
>three people go down
>me and another guy
>in the secure room
>pulsing
>let him know they are right at the door
>he walks in front and hits it instead of spraying
>dies
>1v5
>2 get over confident and rush me
>two head shots
>next comes blitz and black beard
>toss a c4
>down BB and kill blitz
>buck comes around the corner and sprays me to death
>lose

fucking shitters. I wish I had friends.
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>bb still not nerfed

fucking ubishit, can they do anything right?
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>play on Europe west servers
>everyone is a try hard with no mic and rushed towards the windows, dies and rage quits
>play on US south central servers
>people talk and communicate
>dont quit even if they are 0-4
why are americans so much nicer
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>>147950281
on eu servers i get called a hacker literally every time I get a headshot. EU loves to spam "wh" and the likes, it's strange how much more often i see hackusations on eu than us
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>shotguns are supposed to be close range weapons
>literally not a single hallway in the game that you won't be sniped by an auto-shotgun in
so you counter shotguns by standing outside until the timer runs out, sweet
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Does this happen often?
>inb4 console
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>>147951893
Shotguns are not meant for close range. They are medium to long range if anything, depending on the type of shot and choke involved. A shotgun is incredibly effective in close quarters for the most part, but they can still fill a decent sized area full of shot at a distance.
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>>147945026
Its fine though. Le shitter excuse.
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>>147951893
>double-barrel shotgun spread converges at 40 yards
>"supposed to be close range weapons"
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>>147952126
I'm triggered by seeing that one guy's never ending mic transmitting.

I can't stand it when retards have no idea how to balance their mic sensitivity when not using push to talk, that shouldn't even be an option in the first place. I can only imagine how fucking awful it would be to hear someone's fan, controller clacking or breathing in nearly every game on console.
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plat 2 solo bayB
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Any Xboners on? my server's eus, I'm platinum 2, willing to play with people of any rank :)
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>Ubisoft: What kinda match up want?
>Me: Just fuck my shit up
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>>147955210
People don't ACTUALLY play shooters on consoles right? It's a funny meme right?
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>>147950281
I played on all US servers at various times, and I can confidently say that around 12AM-6AM CT the quality of players drop dramatically. This is because a) Mexicans are waking up, b) Asians are waking up, and c) drunk dudebros are on. If you get a drunk guy, mute them, and it's fine. Same goes for the Mexicans. Asians, however, ruin the game with their bullshit pings (it's common for them to play at 200+ ping).

>>147951464
EU like shooters, and they're very competitive at it (see: all esports). Of course that means a huge chunk of them are tryhard faggots. I played on their servers a bit before coming to the conclusion that EU servers are probably the reason why everybody says "Play with friends".
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>>147955835
>6AM

Fuck what why did I type that? Meant 12PM.
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>>147955432
>no hackers
>less ping problems because BRs cant switch their servers
>can play with irl friends
why wouldn't I play siege on console? siege. overwatch, CoD, Battlefield, and Halo are all console shooters. i also play quake UT red orchestra reflex and csgo, some shooters are better on console desu. no excuse not to have both unless youre poor or autistic
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>>147955317
>playing ranked
you deserve it desu. Ranked is nothing but hackers, BR's, and Chinese.
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>>147955317
that's what you get for not playing on your own servers!!!
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>>147950281
Americans have bigger dicks, they don't have to be mean
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>>147956480
>desu
stupid hiroshimoot faggot filters let me type to be honest.

shaking my head family
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fucking REEEEEE shitskins hacked my account and stole it
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>>147959717
>stdh
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>>147960053
im talking to customer service now, im tsea from the TS. some shitskin added a bunch of iranian friends, turned on 2-step verification, and changed my uplay pic
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>>147960389
How did that happen, any idea? Console or PC?
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>>147960606
pc but it used to be linked to a console
might have been the email address associated with it, i got things worked out with customer support though
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>>147960389
>>147960606

Uplay has this thing your account can get "hacked"

Essentially the person just uses your account and he is usually from a shit country.
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PC users, Uplay is giving away free games for the 30th anniversary celebration. https://club.ubi.com/#!/en-GB/ubi30
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>>147961062

>Talking about hackers
>this

I am not clicking that shit nigga
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>>147961763
Don't be paranoid anon
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>Outgunning bandit with your pump action from across the room
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>>147961763
http://www.pcgamer.com/ubi-30-gifts-a-free-ubisoft-game-each-month-starting-today/

Better?
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>>147959717
>>147960883
look at these new olive skinned friends i now have :)))))))
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does someone have that female Tachanka image?
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>>147964642
thats gay have this instead
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>>147964642
gotchu senpai
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>>147963216
and he spent all my renown REEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>147966864
How much did you have before he spent it?
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>>147967439
20k so its not the end of the world
and i guess i have some neat skins and stuff now
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wew thanks ubi
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>>147967739
pistol sniping really triggers me, you can't shoot a pistol that well IRL
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>Can't unbind mousewheel
>can't bind more than one action to same button
I fucking hate consoles for ruining games.
What do ya'll bind camera scan to? It would be great to bind it to the mouse but I can't because they're all occupied. EVEN THOUGH THEY'RE NOT WHEN USING A DRONE OR CAMERA
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>>147968320
got mine on x
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>Tfw sticky mouse pad
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>>147968652
well yeah that's the default, but you can't use it and move with wasd at the same time
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>>147968291
Nigger you better be trolling. Grandpa Hickok and Jerry Miculek would like to have a word with you.
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>>147968291
heh, maybe YOU can't.
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>>147970481
those guys are great yes, but that's range shooting with two hands
this is a high-stress situation with one hand while carrying a 100lb shield in the other

>>147970526
DA trigger so no :^)
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>>147963216
Alwg is someone from the TS but ill be sure to meme on him about this if he ever gets on again.
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>>147970413
You can use your thumb on it
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>>147970650
oh i know alwg is but i meant the other two
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>>147970616
I think if you trained with it extensively you could feasibly hit targets at that range. He's also resting his arm on the shield when you go into the firing animation so that does steady it somewhat more than one armed shooting with no support.

It's not impossible for someone who trains extensively to use a handgun as a primary means of defense in addition to a shield.
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>>147970936
WHOA, mind blown
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Fuckin hackers
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>>147973559
Properly dealt with.
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>>147974059
>oh shit did that drone see me?
>no, nevermind, he left
>heh, idiot
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>>147974228
>Nobody reinforced those walls during the prep phase
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>>147968291
That's what's triggering you? Not the shittiest hitreg in history of video game?
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>>147974228
BLACK
BEARD
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>>147974228
>>147974589
Why do people not fortify every defendable inch of the objective room? Killholes work for the enemy just as well as they do you, just barricade and have a Bandit ready to stop Thermite, funnel the enemy in one by one if you can.

Also, a well barricaded room looks so much nicer, and triggers my obsessive compulsive tendencies less.
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>>147978583
>not fortifying for retakes in case SHTF
Just like kill holes work for the enemy, so does a fortified room. Do the bare minimum to make sure they can't get in without a fight, but also that they need to keep fighting hard to stay in the room.
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Posted this as a post chain last thread, condensed it into a doc. Updated a little, still looking for critiques.

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1KpxjSzacDgcCXDTy8VmFkk7pf7Rq3puE9-2OGHE7Clc/pub
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Shameless shill. Felt like making an actual guide to counter the meme guides.
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=721328214
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>>147981894
As a mute player, this is good stuff. Ill keep this open and learn the spots better.
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>>147984218

>leaked gameplay footage of the BR operator update
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>>147981894
That was a lot more spots than I thought.
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>>147983090
Thanks, Mute has a lot more going for him than people think.

>>147985485
Like I said above, a lot of people don't even think about stuff like that as Mute. They think horizontally trying to jam all the walls but not vertically trying to jam the hatches.
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>>147986996

I wish I got mutes esport hat by now
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>>147987604
Don't support the god awful pro league. This game should be a small niche shooter for intermediate players, not some huge esport circlejerk like CS:GO. Most of the Pro League players aren't even amazingly good and get beat by people that just like to play the game.
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>>147988386

I hate esports aswell but I really like hats


Plus Bandits is GOAT in that bundle
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>>147978997
True. Never, ever hurts to be overly careful though. I like leaving Nitro hidden under desks/ debris of my own making - Smoke babes, raiding hatches - but I suppose it comes from anxiety and being overly cautious.
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>>147988386
lol, esports is good for the game. more exposure, more ubi will give a fuck about it and more time it'll be given from the devs

and nah, pros rarely lose to randoms. theyre always playing with each other and pros from other teams, they're sincerely better than "people who like to play the game".
t. guy that plays with and against pros

watch serenity's stream sometime, you'll see him get shit on against pro players even with a 5man premade and good communication
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so the CTU skins are on sale, which ones should I get? I only have enough for one, and the FBI one looks the nicest imho fampie
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>>147988724
Engraved SAS.
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>>147988712
not to say serenity isn't pro level; serenity is good enough to play ESL. his premade usually isn't though, theyre just people that like to play. remorce is pretty good though
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>>147988814
Is it worth saving up for Diamond? I have like 71,000 renown right now.
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>>147989325

You know those gemstone skins? It is basically those but white.
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>>147989619
Those gem stone skins look horrible as fuck. I've started to take every skin off most of my weapons besides the few that I have that I really like and focused more on saving up for the really nice looking ones on operators I play more than the rest.
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>>147990169
>>147989619

That's why I want to get it, I bought the gemstone bundle on sale at Humble and want to complete the collection.
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>tfw still use the Valentine's skin on most guns just because nobody else uses it
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>>147991071
This for my mute shot gun.
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Would you play a modern Gundam game that plays like a massive scale Siege? Mobile suits breaching space stations, grunt suit assaults against the Side colones, Zeonic. All that stuff.Preferably early/mid UC, like Zeonic Front.
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>>147991907

POSTING THE GLAZ OF MOBILE SUITS
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>>147992057
>a giant massive sniper
seems impractical, when the fuck are you going to be far away enough in a big ass robot suit for a sniper rifle to be effective? you cant fucking hide in a big ass robot like that
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>>147991907
I want a game like exactly sige, but without the console bullshit and ubisoft
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>>147991071
I just never really bother adding camo on guns since it's not intuitive with all the menus and shit.
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>>147992210

Or a robot using a silencer
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>>147988386
Is hacking in pro league still a thing?
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>>147992057
>GM Sniper

That's not a Zaku Sniper, bro.See: http://gundam.wikia.com/wiki/MS-05L_Zaku_I_Sniper_Type That feels very Glaz-like.

>>147992285
Why the hate for consoles?

>>147992419
Depends if it is a solid state weapon, or beam weapon. Beam weapons have silencer looking dissapators to cute down on the flare from Minovisky particles when fired. Zeon also had a handfull of Zaku commando units that used relatively small arms, with integrated silencers for night raids and amphibious assaults during the invasion of Earth.
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>6 days of AFK terrorist hunt

when will the new DLC drop? i want to buy the last 2 DLC operators
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>>147993027
Dayum son. Those ops still won't drop till like beginning of August so keep farming. You use House or Chatel?

Also does Ubi detect key macro programs? They shouldn't if I'm just setting up the enter and space bar to be spammed right?
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>>147993268
i'm a starter edition and i'm on the edge buying blackbeard

maps are random since i dont give a shit, just run it up and minimize it

havent tried macro thing
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>>147992967
siege on PC is a port so it's full stupid things like bad interface and bad controls. Not to mention no dedicated servers, LAN, etc.
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>>147993268
any good macro programs? havent found one so far
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>be developer of this game
>get constantly fucked by ubisoft while they barely give you shit
>your game successfully keeps a playbase unlike the bitch the Division
>Still be the blacksheep of the family while ubi desperately tries to still market the division
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>>147994547
I was just skimming the first few results of Google so to say which one is actually works and/or not malware I'm not sure yet. I'll post my results in these threads if I ever strike gold. Other than that being my concern, I wasn't sure if Ubi can detect something like that one way or another. I highly doubt it panic mode always on.
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xth for please make the BR operators both female
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>>147995216

Both male


cant wait for the jap waifu
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>>147994174
And? Not many games are just made for PC anymore. Multiplat is the future.
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>>147993027
>>147993268
should i buy blackbeard? or just wait until they release bundle for 30K renown?
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>>147995827
35k renown actually. Seeing how he'll likely get a nerf, it might be smart to buy him now and abuse him as much as possible for free wins until then.
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>>147995216
I just want her model on xnalara
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>>147996156
they probably gonna reduce the shield's sustainability

i almost blowed full clip before it breaks, it's ridiculous
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>>147995216
>>147996356

Anyone still have that picture of the knee socks on some operator?
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>>147996561

Nep nep operator?
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>Decide to solo queue ranked since I never do that
>Teammates all just bunker in objective room
>nobody to get my back for most of the obvious entry denial tactics
>Lose every game
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>>147996561
I take it this is Gmod. Ah god the teasing
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>>147996561

>leaked Japanese operator
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>>147968291
yeah well you can't store giant metal wall reinforcements up your asshole either, but here we are
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>>147996156
>>147996475
so..
should i buy it or wait for 35k bundle? 10k renown is a lot for starter edition
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>it's another "you and a ragtag bunch of unranked randoms are up against a five stack of gold+ players" episode
eat shit ubisoft
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>>147988712
>more ubi will give a fuck about it
Oh yeah, they gave so much of a fuck that they delayed operator balancing because muh esports season. The point is that Ubi is forcing all this esports shit when they should be letting it form naturally, while they focus their resources into making the actual game better.

I agree that esports isn't the core problem (it's modern Ubi being stupid as usual), but you saying it isn't hindering the game is provably wrong.
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Are there hackers in the Asian PC servers?
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Is there a reason why in bomb mode there are two bombs and you have to "plant" the defuser at one of them to somehow win.
Makes no sense at all, were they afraid of getting sued for ripping off counterstike if they had the attackers plant a bomb at on of two sites?
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>>147998385
Exactly, you don't make a game esports. You just make a *good* game and esports forms around THAT.
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>>147998805
.....what are you trying to say cause that didn't make much sense?

Think how horrible putting a defuser on one bomb with 5 enemy players would be.

Makes sense to split the team with separate bomb sites so it's not as difficult to plant a defuser.
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>>147998295
But it is so much fun when you win anyway.
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>>147998805
There are always things to complain about if you think too hard about it. Why not just arm the defuser and throw it into the room? Or use it from outside the building but nearby.
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>>147998805
It's not even a big deal since the Call of Duty series has Search & Destroy mode, which is basically like defusal in Counterstrike. Siege is just different.
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>>147998397
Nobody plays the Asian PC servers, they go to the NA servers so that their ping lets them see the future
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>>148000975
gooks and chinks get out of my west coast reeeee
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>tfw plat 3
>silver shitters ask me to carry them when i'm goofing around in casual

Leave me alone.
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>>148005059
carry me pls
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>>147994830
AAA game development (and really any sort of game development outside of donation-based shit like Dwarf Fortress) sounds like a nightmare

AAA- All the 'fun' of working for a major media corporation with none of the glamour.

Indie: Trying to get the word out on your project with journos who couldn't play a game to save their life and are more likely to spend their time shilling shit made by friends/friends of friends/allow them to gain cred amongst their peers. Meanwhile Early Access Survival Shooter (Zombies Optional) #2693 makes a fortune on Steam in a day and development is cut off within a clear. Most people who play your product praise it, but unfortunately barely anyone hears about it to begin with.
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>>148005562
What about drawing for AAA
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>>148005562
Is DayZ still shit
Will it be like Evolve and go free to play
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>>148006070
Day Z wouldn't go free to play because unlike Evolve because it was a massive success, before it even became its own game.

Day Z became so popular they started putting "Required to run the popular Day Z mod" on store boxes of ARMA 2.

Evolve on the other hand flopped, and hard.
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>guy bitches about me using "OP shotguns"
>every kill I got that round was flanking and would've ended the same way if I was using a pistol
>mfw hes diamond
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>>148007149
>see someone moving around one of the servers on bank but you can't get a shot in time so you move back into cover and pop out/preshoot where you expect them to be
FUCKING HACKER TRACKED ME THROUGH THE WALL
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>>148007149
>get flashed
>just hipfire the door I was looking at
>'the power of op shotguns'
>im SAS
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>>147944529
i bet you complain about blackbeard too
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>>147968291
>siege is superrealistic shooter
HAH it's about as realistic as quake
>you can't shoot a pistol that well irl
HAH it's a 30m shot
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>>148009029
Yeah the only real bullshit in that webm were the blood splats from Blitz getting shot in the head
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Anyone else love this game but often get very stressed out with it? Those split second deaths and attempts to move through a map covering every single angle and using drones then getting killed by the one you missed, oh lawdy lawd!
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Raw unedited high ranked console play
http://xboxdvr.com/gamer/Dragoneye%20VIII/video/19452981
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>>147994830
>Siege built on solid gameplay
>The Division built on grind4new guns lol

Could see it The Division dying a mile away as well.
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>>148015219
>hear sledge fucking up a breach
>spray him down through the barricade
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>>148005562
I've worked a bit in AAA studio. It's pretty cool.
I've also been a bit in AA/B studio, that was more relaxed and still fucking cool.

>>148005960
unless you can shit out 10 quality paintings a day and throw them away for nitpicky reasons and start again, don't even consider it.
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>>147971639
Lol those Tacos guys you were playing with are 100% wallers too. I've played with them before and they toggled hard.
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Lets see those Blackbeard stats.
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>>148016818
I really dislike using Blackbeard because he handles like he's moving through molasses
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first a bunch of rounds with 14/88 fagets who just keep being racist
now a bunch of ping pongs with high ping
can this game be fixed by ubi?
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>>148017296
If you took this pic just now, NA is still asleep, and every other player on the NA servers is an asian high pinger.
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>>148017296
just report them, ubi bans people for being """""toxic"""" easily
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>see fairfight ban a guy on my team for the first time
>it's a false positive
>his friend tells us he said it's a permaban
Maybe he hacked in a previous game, but his friend was pretty adamant about him being legit and he didn't sound like he was lying.
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>5'11 (1.80M)

hahaha
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>Decide to watch some ESL-pro shit or whatever it's called

>Defender team doesn't have valkyrie or mute

>Attackers don't have thermite or ash or blackbeard

How the hell are these guys "pro" again?
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>>148020923
>How the hell are these guys "pro" again?

They aren't predictable?
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>>148020923
if you have no must have operators you won't be at a disadvantage when you loose them.

You aren't even in the game with them and you allready got outplayed
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>>147998385
The only reason the game gets balance patches in the first place is because Ubi wants in on esports. Without pro league this game is dead, you'll have to deal with esports or deal with a dead game.
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>>147995336
One is going to be female, this is their only way to get an independent black woman into the game
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>>148016818
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>>148020923
because they're better than you
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any xbox shitters wanna friend up and play?

just got platinum. The squad I run with is shit and I need people to play with.
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how do i only aim for headshot, i see pros doing that all the time
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>>148020923
Mute is trash
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>>148027478

Learn to get your "Crosshair Placement" good.

http://hnng.moe/B3U

Video from CS but still shows the point.
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>>148027478
FPS:101 Always aim at Headlevel
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>>148027494
>Tells drones to fuck off
>Tells breaching charges to fuck off
>Tells thermite to fuck off
>Tells Blitz to fuck off
>Tells Twitch to fuck off

Nah he's pretty fucking great
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>1.0 K/D
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>>148028347
THIS is exactly how I feel I'm like around 300-400 kills to get positive and I don't see how that can be possible without dying as well!
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>>148027494
this
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>>148027494
>>148028728
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Should i roam with Jäger?
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>>148030589
>Plane
>muh nitro cell kill
Literally could have done that with Bandit
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>>148030914
If I were bandit I'd have to sit my fat ass on the point because his electric shit is useless unless it's monitored.
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good r6 youtuber?
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>>148030641
I like roaming with him on Canal, you can go to the opposite building the objective is in, then you can pick off people with his assault rifle as they rappel/try to breach from the outside.
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>>148031267
Serenity 17 and Macie Jay seem like chill guys who are good at the game.
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>>148031267
>>148031450
faggot matimio also has some good informational vids but they're only helpful if you're copper tier
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r6s may have a ton of blatant togglers but at least our pro league isn't full of the most blatant toggling brazilians on earth in the best of 3 grand finals of a million dollar prize pool, which could easily be prevented but isn't because valve doesnt care

>>148030641
yes
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>>148031267
serenity is the only one i bother with. despite being a despicable french canadian he's pretty cool and he's actually right about the game. should watch his stream sometime too if youre into streams, he's the only tolerable siege streamer imo
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I had a weird dream last night. I was in a house with other operators. We had guns and the shit. Night time. I could tell it was a dream based on Rainbow Six Siege cause there were ceiling trap doors I was leaning and looking up to trying to shoot zombies. That's right. Not terrorists. Zombies. Then its gets pitch dark and we are barely seeing shit now. Last enemy is not a normal zombie but a parasite work on the floor just slithering about. We can barely see and we can barely hit it. Then another guy gets on the drone cause the drone has NV. As soon as the drone starts moving and marking the monster, the monster gets agile and starts pouncing and lunging at the drone. Shit shit shit, are bullets can't seem to kill it. I turn to a guy, "we need some fire round or a flame thrower". I think this is where KF2 started invading my dream. But half my mind was like, we don't have a flame thrower. Then a ally shot a Grenade launcher that inflamed a hallway that lit up the whole house. We got the creature. Then I look at my ankle and one of its tendrils has pierced it. I pull it out of me. Oh god I have been effected by these worms. As I start to panic I wake up. Yup, first time I had a dream based on Rainbow Six Siege. Crazy shit.

Inspired me to create a game mode that would never be implemented. Defenders have to defend a scientist like in TH. Zombies start swarming in. They can break down walls and barricades except reinforced walls. If you all die or the scientist dies, you can try a phase 2 where you switch to attackers and have to retrieve the data the scientist had.
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>>148031714
>tolerable siege streamer
I watched a stream of his and it was literally filled with memes.
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>>148035053

Hes literally a kid he was like 19 when he was a pro in the world of tanks scene
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>>148031267
There's a guy on console called griefdrums who shows a lot of drone spots, peaks, and locations to blow the floor up to get kills.

Then there's some guy called GoaNy.net who uses infinite ammo on Ashs grenade launcher to completely destroy every destructible object,wall, and floor on a map to show you how to use it in your favor.
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Firefighter operators when?
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>>148031183
>Calling Bandit a fat ass when Mute is medium armor
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>have to poop
>ate some spicy food earlier so i know it'll burn
sigh
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Lets start off this morning with some bragging
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>>148037762
ok
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>tfw 3rd world shithole with trash internet
>ping spikes over 200
>not too bad but not too good in the game
I'm okay with this.
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>usually play a match of casual to warm up before ranked
>get into match
>entire enemy team has ping over 200
>my team picked jager bandit pulse and valkyrie
>okay i guess ill play rook since my team will be roaming
>all 4 of them sit on the objective, not a single roamer
>valk has 3 black eyes in the objective room, which is basement in hereford
>leave
casual is something else
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>>148005556
What rank were the guys you rekt?
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>>148039358
there really should be some sort of hidden MMR for casual, im tired of playing with silver and gold players every time i take a break from ranked
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>Finish gold 4 last season
>mad I couldn't get to plat
>start in fucking silver 1 this season
>work my way up
>finally get to gold 4
>lose, win, lose win, lose, win matches over and over
>can't find a decent team to run with, have to settle for my friends who all have under .8 k/ds
>trying to push to plat, they can't be assed to actually take it seriously
>other night say fuck it and solo que
>team is actually talkative and calling things out
>finally get to plat after winning 3 games in a row
>don't want to play with friends and lose my rank


what do I do? Why are my friends so shit?
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Am I decent? Is a 35% headshot rate good?
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>>148039768
>that feel when two accounts
:)
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>join match
>team mate keeps pronouncing Montange as "mawn tawn yay"
>leave match
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>>148039768
Why does a virtual medal matter over having fun with friends in the first place?
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>>148037762
>>148037965
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>>148040840

>mon-tag-knee
>mon-ta-gay
>monty-ge

how many different ways have you heard it?
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>>148040950

Winning is fun, anon. I don't like losing, even if I'm losing with friends. I'll play casual with them if they want to have fun and lose.
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>>148041039
Now Montayne I can get into.
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>>148040517
Here's mine if it makes you feel better.
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>bomb defusal
>pick IQ and spot bomb almost immediately
>guys it's on the second floor on the far end of the building
>they proceed to breach ground floor on the opposite side
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>>148040840
>mfw every time some turboautist gets mad someone does things differently than them
>mfw especially when they do it right
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>>148041365

> .52 k/d with doc
>only 52 revives
>in 22 hours

why play doc if you're not gonna use him right?
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>>148041434
>mawntawnyay
>right
m8... he's french. it's mon tane
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>>148041039
>Montague
Must've been playing with Shakespeare
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>>148041804
mawntawnyay is closer than mon tane
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>>148041604
What is a good number of revives for a decent Doc?
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>>148042187
>americans
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>>148042210

Don't personally see the use for a doc most of the time, but a doc should either be roaming with a partner or staying in the objective room assisting with counter pushes. The doc revive gun is great when there's an opportunity for it, but those are few and far between.
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>enemy team votes off the only good player on their team for some probably stupid reason
(:<
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>>148041434
>>148042187
>Anon learns he's been horribly mispronouncing an operator's name for 7 months
>Flounders desperately to save face
hon hon. You can even watch any video in which Serenity says his name, he's a french canadian and he's fluent in french as its his first language. He says something similar to "montane"
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>>148042596

>team loses a really close round
>start bitching at each other
>someone tks
>his friend tks the tker
>next round is pure chaos. people spraying
>hit the ground and just try to survive
>3 people dead, one removed from match
>lose the game
>enemy team says gg
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>>148042492
I'm always with the team with Doc and I seriously take every opportunity to revive a downed teammate.
It's a tight chance for somebody to survive once they're down but I swear reviving them with the stimpak gun is the best feel in the game tbqh.
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>>148042892

the problem is that there's only a really slim chance most of the time for a revive. If someone gets down, usually they die right after it. It doesn't happen often enough to warrant using Doc over someone that can really contribute to the team.
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>>148042803
Because he's talking english on his stream and in his videos.
Certain languages have certain sets of sounds used to form words, and it's difficult to switch between the sets mid sentence.
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I wish I could look at "Times killed by Kapkan trap or bear trapped" stats.

It'd be an easy way to avoid shitters.
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>>148043110
Well his stimpak gun does come in handy sometimes for personal use.
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>>148042803
and before you go turbonuclear "FRENCH CANADIANS HAVE DIFFERENT ACCENTS!!!!", french canadians and people from france both pronounce montagne the same way

>>148043127
>this french word is pronounced differently in english
?
youre speaking english regardless arent you?
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>>148042808
>>team loses a really close round
>>start bitching at each other
>>someone tks
>>his friend tks the tker
this bothers me the most.
Close rounds are when any game is at it's very best.
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>>148043332

sure, if you wanna be a shitter who only thinks of himself and not the team, enjoy casual.
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>>148041604
>Why play Doc at all
ftfy
>>
Munich map when
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>>148043365
>this french word is pronounced differently in english
French words aren't pronounced 'differently' in English, they're pronounced the French way, or the wrong way. It's not like Montagne is a loanword that has become part of the English language either.
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>>148043332
Slow motion walk to pistol executions are the best. Even when you are Doc cause you literally rose from the grave to fuck his day up.
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>>148043332
>not rezzing him and then going for the knife
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I wonder if they would do a fire themed Operator. Call him Fahrenheit or Blaze. Gadget could be a Molotov cocktail. Throw it like a nade and it burns an area for a long time. Perfect area of denial tool. Direct hits on players will result in an instakill. Good for a defender tool.
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>>148044634
Sounds like souped up smoke
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They need a Japan Operator

>Can hack cameras
>Use them to spot enemies
>can't hack valkriy cameras

Pretty simple idea, thoughts?
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>>148045076
defender would be able to place a gadget that when triggered plays generic japanese level music
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>>148045076
It's counter intuitive for the attackers though.
>Attacker teammates shoot out the defender cams
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>>148045076
Japan op gets a dakimakura with a picture of himself on it that he can prop up as a decoy
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>>148045631

His special includes a way to loop the footage of cameras (one or two at a time to limit)
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>>148037762
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>>148045076
N I N J A
I
N
J
A

Make his gadget like some dumb shit where he enters a stance or something similar to a crouching state and gets increased movespeed and quieter overall.

I would take an Oni or Samurai OP too
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>>148046220
Please no generic 'assassin man' that'll get picked by kids in every match.
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>>148046220

Flying drone

Japs are REALLY into camera shit
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>>148045076
Dumb. Only use would be in premade. Think of how many retards would shoot out your cameras.
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Are they ever going to give twitch new headgear?

I'm so tired of having to wear the gimp mask. The dlc camo balaclavas are ugly as sin too
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>>148046664
>muffs on both sets of ears

Too Kawaii. My heart can't take it
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>>148046664
That's what's expected, yeah.
Defender will probably get some wall-climbing ability like the good old split jump so he can ambush out of unusual locations better. I'm expecting short-range, well-suppressed weapons for him.
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>>148047112
no, climbing is coming with br
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>>148047262
No kidding? I haven't been following their announcements.
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>>148047112
I'm assuming we're going to get the type89 for sure but I hope the ugly as sin pm9 makes an appearance aswell
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>>148047448
yeah, aladder is rumored to be used with hatches
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>>148047553
That sounds useful actually. No one ever barricades the trapdoors beneath the objective. The kitchen on Chalet comes to mind.
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>>148047707
Yeah and a lot of people actually blow them open to see down below and to have quick access to flank.

That'd be neat to quickly throw a ladder or grapple to climb up especially if they're the ones who blew the hatch you could sneak attack them when they aren't watching the hole!
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>>148047553
Offense or Defense?
>>
New defenders will be women and useful

New attackers will be bearded dudes with an underbarrel flamethrower and bayonet, respectively
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>>148048017
Attackers makes the most sense. Ladders on D just means more ways into the objective room and reduces the potential of bottlenecks.
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>vote to kick afk recruit guy during drone phase
>spawn and he shoots me
>get voted to kick by his cuck friends
Why does this happen so often? Just make friendly fire redirect back towards you at the first 5 seconds
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>>148048017
>>148048118

Someone made a video with the voice line of "climb this" talking about a ladder operator

The voice line in question sounds like a spetnaz recruit though
>>
a ladder op would suck dick and be stupidly situational
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>>148048551
Still better than the ability of Twitch, IQ, and half the defenders.
>>
There was that operator idea image with the idea of a deployable rope for the defenders to climb up and hold onto, it would be pretty situational but still neat to play with the idea of hiding in an unexpected spot, since everyone is used to looking at head level and below.
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>>148048551
Yes. Thank you.
At least make it like a grapple hook you just shoot upwards and can rappel anywhere
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>>148048675
False.
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>>148040840
I always say montajneek, cuz I'm russian.
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2bh I imagine it more as an inclined ramp than a true ladder, for game purposes. A ladder like the ones on the map already would be useless.
>place ladder
>get headshot while climbing up
If you could walk up it, that would be one thing since shields could use it. It's nitro bait, but it does mean say, Ashe could pop up from behind without warning.
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>>148048551
>have shotgun
>need to get to floor above
>stairs watched by roamers and black guys
>blow up hatch above you, erect, climb
Literally just as situational as thatcher and would change how the game is played making it more interesting and fresh
>>
The ladder rumor is bullshit anyway. The video we're referencing from featured the Russian recruit's voice lines, not a BR. Nobody knows what the Russian recruit sounds like because nobody picks him.
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>>148049573
I still hope it is that, it would be incredebly neat
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>>148050037

Well we gotta think each op has a certain theme well up to the DLC ops

JTF-2 seem to be hunters?

Navy Seals are intel??
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>>148050227
The masterkey has nothing to do with hunting, and the shield has little to do with intel gathering
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>>148050519

I'd rather have a skelton than a rifle when a wild boar is charging me.
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>>148050227
To be fair, no one knows what the BRs even do. Real world and in-game.
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>>148050642
Anon, you have a skelton right inside you
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>>148050519
>>148050227

I think each operator is placed into a category of 3 levels

High medium low

Montange is a high shield user since he can become unhitable

Blitz is a medium shield user since it blocks most of his body but he can still get hit at certain parts

Stay with me here on this one

Blackbeard is a low shield user since his body is still exposed but his head is covered

same for breachers

Ash has long range breaches

Sledge can have silent wall breaches but has to be close

Buck opens up murder holes and can make entry points loudly though
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>>148050919
This works.
>Thatcher has mass AoE device destruction
>Twitch has line-of-sight, short-range device destruction that's not linked to the human player
>IQ has the same as Twitch, but requires the operator to have the LoS directly, assuming the wall can't be shot through

What are the unfilled roles then?
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>>148050642
Then you know shit all about hunting.

A charging boar isn't going to be stopped by a shotgun with a short ass barrel. Hell the rounds they use for breaching are meant to turn into powder after they disperse their energy which ain't much since they're designed to be shot at less than 6 inches from the object.

A rifle ,especially one in a full sized cartridge like bucks FAL, would stop a wild boar deader than fuck.
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>>148051198
>Bandit can protect one reinforced wall
>Mute can protect walls and hatches, reinforced or not
>???
I'd like to see an defense operator that has a mat he can roll out on the floor or potentially a hatch, that makes that part of the floor unbreachable and bulletproof.
Would be pretty useless in most games though, since people rarely make use from floors/ceilings like that.
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>>148050919
Did someone say categories and classifications? I added operator armor and speed values.

Role/Position: Where the operator is or acts when things start happening.
Attackers
Point Man- If you have one, they are the first ones that lead the charge. They usually have a shield to protect themselves and their team.
Entry Fragger- Second in line. They are the main attackers of the team. If there are no point men, they are the first in the attack.
Backliner- Usually in the back of the group, these operators hang back due to the nature and importance of their gadget. However once their gadget serves their purpose, they can move up with the entry fraggers.
Flanker- Usually with fast speed, flankers are operators who do not go with the main group. They take an alternate path to sneak up on the defending team.
Defenders
Pinpoint Defender- These operators strive by holding the objective.
Roamer- Usually with high speed and/or passive gadget. They roam around the map outside the objective to catch players who are along or to flank the main attacking team.
Both- Can either play as a Pinpoint Defender or Roamer.

Gadget Role: How the operator's gadget is used.
Breacher- Gadget that is used to break walls/barricades to get into the objective or open venues of attack
Sabotager- Gadget that is used to take out other enemy gadgets
Disrupter- Gadget that is used to displace or suppress the enemy team. If they do not change or hold positions, they are open to attack.
Intel- Gadget that is used to gain information on the battlefield.
Area Denial- Gadget that is used to deny or slow down movement of enemy operators.
Trapper- Gadget that is used to kill or incapacitate the enemy.
Support- Gadget that is used to help your ally operators.

Gadget Type:
Active: These gadgets need the operator to be alive to function.
Passive: Once placed, these gadgets function even when the operator dies.
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>>148051198

Trappers/hunters

>Kapkans trap is difficult to see if placed correctly and can kill someone
>Frosts trap is on the floor and is not that simple to see but it injure people caught in it
>???

Maybe a motion senor or some shit
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>>148051673
Pulse, can protect through walls and floors without reinforcing
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Why don't they have real doors at first instead of the shitty barricades? I want to live out my tacticool oper8tor dream and breach doors like in Medal of Honor Warfighter.
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>>148051673

No wait I got it

Bandit destroys equipment if someone puts something in it

Mute just jams it no destruction what so ever

There is not an operator that straight up kills you for putting a breaching charge or something on a window or wall.
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>>148051874

>Area Denial- Gadget that is used to deny or slow down movement of enemy operators.

Low-Castle

Medium-Smoke

High-Tachkanka (if he gets one more buff)
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>>148051932
>>148052167
>motion sensor trips a shotgun
>can be placed to watch windows or the like
>punch them and get shot

Let's be honest. Punching windows will get you killed regardless. Make it a low damage automatic shotgun that dumps off eight shots to suppress would make it useful for covering hallways too.
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>>148052167
We need false barricades/walls that are actually shaped charges that explode when tampered with.
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If Ubi gets creatively bankrupt they could just make a defender almost exactly like Castle, except his barriers go on walls and protects them being shot through, but not breached through.

Five reinforced walls from one op is pretty good.
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Was Glaz just added to say there is a sniper in this game?
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>>148053660
You're not implying that Glaz is bad, are you?
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>>148053763

of course not comrade
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Glaz draws manga!
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>>148053985

Russians are massive weebs
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>>148050782

Arent they basically a death squad?

Another operator we can blame for killing the hostage soo
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>last alive
>montagne
>1v3
>go full mountain mode as two pump shotgun shells at me
>back into room, take down shield and get ready
>they run in, head shot one and melee the other
>valk one comes around corner and tosses c4
>run out of room at her
>literally beside her when she blows it outside of the room
>still kills me

I fucking hate c4 in this game. The radius is fucking insane.
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>>148054310
i hate things that counter my shitty useless operators too
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>>148054525

How's wood league? If you don't know that Montagne and Blackbeard are hallway clearing behemoths than get the fuck outta my face.
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>>148054310
fuck off memetagne
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>>148054675
kill yourself faggot, memetagne is objectively the best operator in the game.
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>>148054671
im diamond. montagne is literally the worst operator in the game. post your rank faggot
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>>148055437

>i'm diamond

no you're not
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>people still die from spawn kills
>people still get c4'd on the stairs of plane

it's like they don't learn or something. Am I playing with goldfish?
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>>148055923
>people still die from spawn kills
It's a bit much. I almost always get at least one guy a match with smokes sub
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>>148055923
>It's a "everyone gets tunnel vision on Plane" episode
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>>148056760

>Everyone rushes the front of plane on the ramp and all of them die from a rush
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Just heard this in Casual. "I love House, it's like the Nuketown of Rainbow!"
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>>148055769
>doesnt post rank
yeah that's what i thought little bitch now sit the fuck down and shut the fuck up you faggot ass silver shitter
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>>148057668
House is a good map.
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>>148057754

I'm plat. Rank has nothing to do with how good Montagne is. Just because you don't know how/have never seen him used great before doesn't mean he's useless.
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So this just happened

>playing ranked
>it's down to 1v2
>our thatcher v pulse and rook
>kills rook, he hears pulse coming
>ques up a grenade
>pulse throws his c4
>grenade goes off and destroys is before he can use it
>thatcher kills him while he's looking at his phone

shit was pretty awesome
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what if siege was an anime
https://twitter.com/IGKrieg/status/752242721545330688
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>Still haven't got 3 sidearm kills for the challenge
>Play as Clitz to get the sidearm kills since I'd imagine it would be the easiest route
>No one picks Thermite
>We lose, 0 kills with sidearm
>Play as Thermite next attacker round because no one else did
>We win
I just want to play as Clitz for once and complete the challenge.
>inb4 play Smoke
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>>148059334
first siege video that has completely made me lose my shit
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Never played this but wondering if this is worth it if i get the budget version? /v/ told me for the price, its worth it. Just want to play this before its ded
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>>148059334
audible laughter
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>>148059334
Holy fucking shit
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>>148059904
it's a really fucking good and underrated MP shooter. Grind might be a bit bad on budget version but it's like 2-3 days of playing at few hours a day anyway.

Has some obvious hitbox, netcode and anticheat problems but that won't hit you unless you play at high level. Really fucking fun game.
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>>148059334
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
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>>148059904
>spoilers
Siege is actually doing a good job of maintaining its playerbase.
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>>148059334

PFFFFFFFFFFFFFT
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>>148059334

Dont japs like this game alot?
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>>148061507
There's usually a dedicated group for any shooter in Nip land mostly.
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Anyone on PS4 fancy a game? I have a mic.
Just promise not to bully me for my shit psn name :(
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>>148062020
I'm a silver IV scrub btw
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>>148059334
Haven't laughed hard in awhile.
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>>148059413
You just have to get lucky. Play normal but if you get lucky with a down, switch to pistol and finish them off. That's the easiest way I got it. Don't focus only on the pistol. Also, sometimes when the enemy goes down, you we the players have the habit to keep on firing. But you need to break your habit for a moment and switch to pistol. Even easier if you steal your ally's downed enemy.
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>>148059413
>Caring about challenges when you get more renown for just finishing a match
Challenges are so fucking pointless
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Also lads any news on the new map and operators, can't be too much longer can it?
Also I hop BB gets nerfed hard but that will just mean the new ops will be overpowered and take his place.
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>tfw this happens
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>>148062476
I just played as blitz for 2 rounds.
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>>148063402
>tfw vote to kick anyone who doesn't have a kill by round 3
Very good feeling if they do actually get kicked
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>>148063549
>being this much of a tryhard autist
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>>148064257
>Complaining about tryhards on ranked
I'm guessing you get 0 kills regularly
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WHAT THE FUCK?
>playing ranked
>see a kapkan trap but it is place high so I prone to avoid it instead of shooting and giving my position away
>it blows up anyway even though it's like 4 feet away from me
Fucking trash game
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>>148062476
I could have used a pistol to finish off downed enemies this past week, but I just ended up killing them with my primary since it's the heat of the moment plus taking out a sidearm takes forever.
>>148062905
True, but every little bit helps.
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>It's another blackbeard player gets 0 kills in ranked episode
Why are the only people playing this ded game shit at it?
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just drop the division ubi, it's only holding you and siege back.
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>>148064719
>no webm
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>>148065841
I'm on ps4 mate and you have to hit record before you know what happens and even if I did I'd have to transfer it to my pc etc etc
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>>148065584
You underestimate the console market.

There's a reason why, despite how fucking boring it was, Destiny was such a hit there
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>>148066134
Destiny is shit. Utter shit. But had it been on PC, PC wankers would have loved it like the second coming of christ.
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>>148066098
>my pc
you have a pc, just play on pc
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>>148066506
it's aboslute shite, upgrading it in a week and selling my ps4 don't worry
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>>148066098
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So why can we reconnect in Ranked but not casual
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>>148067278
I'm pretty sure you can reconnect in casual.
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>>148069603
Never seems to work for me
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>>148069603
you can queue and hope to be put into the same game again, but there is no dedicated reconnect function.
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>this triggers the r6s player
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How much would lobbies improve this game?

>Custom games go through the roof
>players have more options
>able to spectate should be a function
>love is a lie
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>>148055437
>diamond
>thinks monty is the worst

yeah show me your rank buddy, i can't wait to see console buttons in the menu faggot
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>>148059904
Sorry senpai the meme version isnt up anymore
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this matchmaking is fucking stupid lol. literally refuses to make a match instead of putting me into one already in progress. every single time i search it puts me in a game in progress, even when i finish a casual match and let it remake it kicks me from the lobby to put me into a match already in progress. unreal
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>>148071243
Not him but even serenity says he's the worst operator in the game, montagne and tachanka for attack/defense, and I'm pretty sure he knows more about this game than you do
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>People in this thread are defending Trashtagne
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>>148072023
memetagne is real
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>>148071852
b-but maciejay
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>>148071032
I still don't know why we don't get together to dick around in custom matches
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>>148072023

>play montagne
>take point
>call out and make enemies
>tell them where they are and what to expect
>bait them into using their nitros
>able to walk right up to kill holes and see whats going on
>have flashes to help support

yeah, he's trash. just because he's not made for killing doesn't mean he's a trash operator. I think he should get a buff though. Shockwire like damage when he has his shield extended and runs into you
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>>148071852
Don't even bother, this general is completely full of casual trash. It's just another Steam forum.
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>>148072665
I just want him to be able to survive a nitro from the front with his shield extended. 5 of the defenders have nitro. If the enemy team has nitro just dead, if they don't, THE WALL https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TPfa5VuTVN4
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>>148073104
>montagne enters room fully erect
>THAT'S THE WALL BROTHER, THAT'S THE WALL OVER THERE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6PHh1DoSUc0
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>>148074250
>using the P90
furries are retarded, more news at 11
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>tfw legit 4.1 winloss and 2.2 kd
>tfw can never find a match because enemy team always leaves assuming i'm a hacker or theyre intimidated
:(
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>>148074250
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>>148074250
So does the hole in the wall kinda look like a vagina to anyone else?
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>>148074250
Just why?
But if they had to be dogs
GIGN: Poodles?
GSG9: German Shepard
FBI: Bulldog
Spetsnaz:?
SAS:Terrier
JTF2: Siberian Husky
Seals: ?
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>>148075336
>Seals: ?
Seals are seals
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>>148075778
Seals are the cute dog of the sea :3
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>>148075336
these big mastiffs for Russia.
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Fuck I want to play a cool operator with dog combo. To bad it will never be doable and balanced.

Idea, gadget is dog obviously. You can switch control to it like a drone and it can mark enemies. High speed and can interact with objectives. If you the operator gets downed, you switch to the dog and he can lick your wounds :3 If the operator dies you take full control of the dog until it dies. Its like having two lives.
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>>148076626

Yoo

What if the operator was the dog
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>>148075954
they sure are
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>all the times I had to grind through being the only plat on a team full of golds against a team of diamonds and plat 3s
>im finally on the team of diamonds and plats
GLORIOUS
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>>148027494
As a Mute player, you're so incredibly wrong. Mute is good in his flexibility and the broad range of options he covers. Mute is essential in keeping a room fortified as much as possible. Mute can jam hatches, walls, doorways, drone holes, Blitz' FLASH SHIELD, etc. etc. Mute and Bandit together are ridiculously good, with the ability for Bandit to do the trick if a jammer gets Thatch'd. Mute's MP5K is really good despite what some say. It doesn't have much recoil at all, it has a decent rate of fire, and with a flash hider the burst fire is ridiculously good. The shotgun is ridiculous as well. Even though it's the worst of the pump actions, it still packs a hell of a punch, especially in CQC, which is where Mute will be most of the time. He's good early game, good mid game, good late game, he's just very solid. Just because he isn't OP as fuck like Valkyrie, Ash, or Blackbeard doesn't make him bad by any means.
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>>148079341
I just found out Mute can jam Blitz shields the hard way. I rushed in after a sledge breach and went to flash. Was dead to a pair of shotguns in seconds when I could not flash and crouch.
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What I want to happen to shields. They can take reduced damage from nitro. The glass can be broken like BB's shield.
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>>148041039
I just call him the mountain
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>guy ironically named AmBetterThanU is constantly berating me and my teammates
>yet he's so shit he probably came into this world through someone's asshole
>this round happens
>he's dead, at the bottom of the scoreboard, and now he won't shut up as I'm trying to find the Pulse that has been raping us
>tells me I'm shit and won't try to carry me so he leaves
>win the round at the last second
>team and I proceed to win the whole match now that the weakest link is gone

Friendly reminder to keep your composure as it affects team moral. If you're gonna rage, do it like the end of the game.
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Monty-kun~
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>>148070946
>Valkyrie players during the first week
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>>148065457
Only ones playing now are dedicated players and hackers who are truly shit. The occasional salefag can be seen every now and again (probably the BB you're talking about).
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>>148084878
lots of new players are playing, this game is doing quite well considering it gets LITERALLY 0 marketing
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>see untamed blitz 2 rooms away
>just stare at eachother, feel like the thing can see into my heart
>he lowers his shield to take a better look
>+120

erry time like pottery, it's so fucking satisfying
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>>148085602
Stop bullying my main, bro.
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>>148085708
he's my main too, and I never ADS because most of the time laserpistol is enough to get lucky headshots and when I do it's when I'm 100% sure I'll win the peekfight or that the enemy is otherwise occupied
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>>148085602
>hear blitz walking towards corner
>tf2 matador stab him
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>>148052573
Why not just have the wall swing down onto the operator, flattening him cartoonishly like an accordian?
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I hate blackbeard
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>>148086331
Once you learn the game he's not that big of a problem anymore.
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>>148080520
This is good info
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>>148085818
I try not to ADS unless I feel like I can headshot fast enough. Or I feel lucky. I usually die terribly when I feel lucky in Siege. Your taste in Attackers is great by the way.

>>148085989
I can dig it. Acme Seismic Walls - Smashing Shit Since... Saturday. Yeah.
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>>148041039
That really french laugh is how I pronounce the end of it.

Monnnttuuuuuuugggghhhhhhhh
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>>148086541
If it was anyone else I would've hs but nooo what is a blackbeard doing alone moving around the basement at house reeeee
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why do people play twitch? people always say MUH F2, but the recruit can use an f2 AND a frag grenade, giving him a clear advantage
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>>148089681
acog on f2, also is good at helping stop battery trick.
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>playing on plane
>know they spawned front of plane
>biohazard is front of plane
>get to tail end
>go outside
>peak the main entrance
>see blitz crouched, looking at door
>pop some shots his way
>get three shots in him
>no headshot
what times have you been confused where bullets have gone?
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>>148073104
>I just want him to be able to survive a nitro from the front with his shield extended.

i swear it seems like they did buff him like this, my friend was surviving more nitros with monty's shield extended. maybe it was just coincidence but i'm interested in seeing some kind of test video.
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The name's BUCK and I like to drive trucks
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>>148089681
t. Thatcher
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>load up siege
>play some ranked on pc, diamond
>get a random team, we start on attackers
>pick montagne
>walking drone, revolver 2shots anyone stupid enough to get close to it
>also happen to be not retarded so don't walk into nitro cells
>4-0 win

what's stopping you from playing as the BEST shield operator in the game, if not the best operator PERIOD?
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>>148089681
French recruit has heavy armor. That's enough reason not to play as him.
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>>148066391
Destiny is a hit because, despite everything else being shit once you do it "once" - the multiplayer wasn't complete dogshit.

It played enough like Halo it entice those players, and the gear disparity in multiplayer while all the gear stats were normalized, there were attributes that made certain gear more effective than others, so it encouraged you to go loot hunting so you can have that slight edge in PvP.

It's ultimately why Destiny's player retention was so high and Divisions is so low.
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>>148090921
My days as playing shield died when they killed off the Secret Operator: FBI Shield Recruit
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How do you get platinum? let alone diamond? I can't seem to get past gold IV.
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>>148091713
Sadly I can agree with that. Sunk far too many hours into Destiny and regret just about all of them, aside from teaming with my brother.I still prefer The Divison over Destiny though.
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patch 3.4 when?
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>>148095772
when ubi sells every skin to every active player.
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>>148086541
If you learn the game more you'll know he is a big problem. As we've covered multiple times already, he's not OP but he needs a nerf to his shield. High level matches come down to smooth movement with leans. BB is the best as this, so when clears a room he's got a huge advantage.
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>>148095772
Hoping for patch notes today
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So guys, imagine that we get drone racing with https://www.youtube.co/watch?v=wWnzfA9AqrA playing. Would you play it, Operators?
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>>148096224

doubt it


Playing Evolve in the mean time gotta prepare myself for when the BRs come out so I can play siege for hours on end again
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>>148090581
When I'm on plane as Glaz and I empty half a mag into people through windows but apparently being riddled with sniper fire is only enough to down people.
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>>148096985
glaz is my most played attack op but holy shit is he bad. i've seen him deal 40 damage to a bandit in a hit and 17 to a rook before, neither of which were through windows, or any surface.
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>>148045076
>can use defender cams
stop with this meme
the devs even stated that this was an awful idea and will never be implemented
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>>148099029
I like Chaika.
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How much renown would you estimate I could get using the custom game overnight method? Sort of tempted to use it to grab as many as the GSG 9 skin bundles that I can.
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>>148079341
>muh floor hatches
Sure, if you like wasting time and doing the hamfisted ways to set some of them up. On your other points, Twitch comes along with her drone to BTFO your jammers. Even then, you don't even need her drone to do it since you can just shoot the jammers.
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>>148096097
The big issue with Blackbeard is he is the only character who has a distinct, tactical advantage in 1 on 1.

Rainbow Six Siege characters are all situational / circumstantial soft counters. Defenders put up devices that shape the battlefield in their favor, and Attackers essentially neutralize or bypass these.

When you look at every character in the game, such as how Castle hardens windows so they require a hard breach, how Ash/sledge can open up doorways you might not be able to open (Castlecade on door + feet watching = no breaching charges) - How Thermite is able punch past reinforced walls and force your own path by swiss cheesing the defenders plans, but Mute and Bandit can fortify those defenses to stop a thermite, requiring a Thatcher to make Thermite useful.

It's all soft counters and situation. It all comes down to how the game positions people in a gun fight.

With Blackbeard, it doesn't matter how you are positioned or what you have done, Blackbeard can create situations where he will win gunfights 19 times out of 20. The only thing exposed is his head, and he is invulnerable to headshots. Unless defenders are waiting specifically for blackbeard, know where he is going to come from, and have someone ready to counter him when he makes a move (read: perfect intel), they are at a distinct disadvantage when fighting him - but even if that situation every other Attacker is worse off, where BB would still have a better chance of surviving.

The argument of "Oh just flank blackbeard" is not valid, because flanking isn't a "counter" it's a general strategy you can employ against anyone. Even if you flank the fucker, he could still turn around at the last second and have the shield absorb your shotgun blast. He still has an edge.

There is currently no counter to Blackbeard, no distinctive way for Defenders to prepare and counter for Blackbeard specifically, and virtually no downside to Blackbeard using his shield. He is objectively unbalanced.
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>>148100530
Don't waste your time. Everybody in this general are all diamond league players that easily and perfectly counter BB without ever taking a point of damage from him and if you don't agree that he's an easy to counter you're a copper tier shitter.

Fuck BB. He's blatantly broken with his shield having too much damage absorption before breaking, no visual gunshots obscurring his vision or impact from gunfire knocking his aim off center.

He'll get nerfed, but Ubi being money hungry faggots will ensure that the new operators will be OP as well just like last time. I love this game and so do a lot of other people, but until they drop the Division(complete failure) we'll be stuck in this cycle of OP operators.
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>tfw getting an ace on Plane
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=36odfqA-Xqw
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>>148016818
>>148017276
>>148024392
Casuals
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>>148101289
If absorbing a bullet meant his aim was all fucked up for a second or two (and knocked wildly off center) - that would be a good step in the right direction for balance. In a 1 on 1 encounter, he still comes out ahead, but instead of what is a god mode gadget would become a "Get out of headshot free" card - Defenders would then know where BB is, and BB would be more careful since exposing his giant hitbox of a shield means not being able to fire back again.

Would it be enough, I don't know, but it's common sense enough to be baffling how it's not in the goddamned game in the first place.
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>>148100530
I even love the terrible advice, "just use nitro cell against him, bro" given by players to counter him.
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Alright, how the fuck do I connect to my friend?
We both forwarded our ports and fucked with our firewalls and we still can't join a party.
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>>148101783
Have matching data centers?
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>>148100530
>>148101715
>WAAAAAAAAAAAH FUCKING NERF BLACKBEARD
>WHY CAN'T I PEAK THIS WINDOW HE LOOKING OUT OF
>ITS FUCKING UNFAIR

Don't
Peak
Black
Beard
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>>148102321
Both of us are on WUS.
This is the only game that is doing this
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>>148103001
The issue is you don't know it's Blackbeard until it's too late you idiot.

In a 1v1 encounter Blackbeard has an astronomical advantage. In a same where such encounters might last split seconds before a headshot is dished out, that astronomical advantage is what we would call "unbalanced"

He is the only Operator designed with such an advantage, and Ubisoft had shield Operators that could ADS during the beta but got rid of them because they found it was too powerful.
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>>148103001
You're a fucking idiot.

By the time you realize it's Blackbeard you're shooting you're probably already dead.

It's more like

WAAAAGH STOP COMPLAINING THAT EVEN THOUGH YOU DIDN'T KNOW WHAT OPERATOR YOU WERE FIRING AT IN A SPLIT SECOND AFTER TAKING FIRE THAT YOU'RE WELL AIMED HEADSHOT THAT WOULD KILL ANY OTHER OPERATOR DID NOTHING AND YOU DIED. WAAAAGH THAT'S SO UNFAIR THAT YOU'RE NOT MAKING SPLIT SECOND DECISIONS TO FIRE AT THE OPERATORS MIDSECTION/LEGS AFTER REALIZING YOUR TAKING FIRE FROM BLACKBEARD WHO IS DEFINITELY FIRING AT YOU IN RETURN UNIMPEDED EVEN THOUGH YOU JUST PEPPERED HIS SHIELD WITH HALF A MAGAZINES WORTH OF BULLETS WAGHHH

you're a faggot
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>>148103372
>>148103516
>what is cameras
>what is paying attention to his gunfire
>what is listening for heavy footsteps that don't have a shield

I can smell the silver from you two.
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>>148103586
>what are the things that get shot out 100% of the time
>what is paying attention to the gunfire when he hasn't discharged his rifle yet
>what is listening for something that could be coming from a window

ok.
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Want to make the switch for a while. How legit is the anti-cheat compared to CSGO?
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>>148103586
Again, the proble is not window peaking or other shit. It's turning corners via leaning. If you played in high level matches you'd know that most good players will always slice the pie when entering a room. BB shits on everybody when he does this, and it's nearly impossible to confront him in a situation like that.

If he's window peaking sure just hide and wait him out. If you see him crouch walking in a straight line then yeah nitro the idiot. If you see him moving swiftly from room to room leaning around every corner, though, then have fun trying to stay alive.
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>>148103845
Valk cams
get good
get get headsets
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>>148100530
It doesn't help that with the shit netcode you're not only fighting against his shield, but you're also praying that the shots that do hit his head actually count.
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>>148103990
>get get headsets

Literally pay2win. Never work in PR.
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>>148103001
>>148103586

Ignoring that the other 92.3% of the possible character options on the attacking team do not require you to change your entire play style or 1v1 strategy, and that even if BB is selected, the other 80% of the opposing team does not require you to play in the distinct way that you have to when facing Blackbeard....

The fact is BB is the only character you can not have a fair 1v1 fight with. The other 23 characters + recruits you can still come out on top if you are quick on the draw or better with your weapon - but you have a guy who is invulnerable to one of the most common ways people die + give him the peekers advantage, it's not balanced.
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>>148103586
Cameras don't last for shit like the other Anon said

Paying attention to his gunfire from a few rooms away or after he's already firing on me?

Heavy footsteps? Most Blackbeards I've seen keep a distance or hang outside windows you don't know what operator is shooting you until you see the shield hit markers most of the time.

You're the perfect stereotype that i described above with your perfect Blackbeard counters. You probably main him. Get fucked.
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>all this BB talk

I'm just mad as fuck that BB replaced Glaz as the guy to cover windows. He's practically a better sniper in every way. He's also the only one who can safely cover 2F hallway in House (again, Glaz's job).
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>>148103990
>valk cams
top meme friend, because that is "balanced'

>get good
>getting good means you will hear gunshots from weapons that have not yet fired :^)
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How did I do guys?
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>>148103990
Valk cams are dependant on players actually putting them in good locations or even in an area BB will be in.

Get good? That seems to be the Swan song to every Blackbeard defender who can't dissuade people who KNOW BB is broken.

I use a headset. It isn't a magical BB trump card. He still has a huge advantage in a gun fight that no other operator has.

Just admit it. When he's inevitably nerfed you still gonna defend him and say Ubi was wrong to do so?
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Does BB even have an audible difference in footsteps when he has his shield on his rifle? Besides, it's moot point and yet another strong point for BB because he runs with normal 2 speed with his Desert Eagle out, even when the shield is on his rifle. So you literally can't hear him coming until it's too late, kek
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Since we're on the topic, anyone else feel like most blackbeard players are mentally handicapped? Like, whenever I spectate them playing, they're so oblivious to everything, and often have shit aim. They even seem to be incompetent at 1v1 situations down any hallways and usually end up getting dropped instantly. I feel like BB is their only crutch and they can't do anything outside of peeking windows.
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>>148103943
We have anti-cheat?
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>>148104576
Just forget him man. He wants to sound like a supreme badass because he's better than everyone else.

No one is saying Blackbeard is invincible or god mode. Nobody is saying BB never dies. We're saying Blackbeard has a distinct advantage and is unbalanced in relation to the other 96% of selectable characters in the game. He is the only character that behaves a specific way and requires special consideration to kill - and the means to provide that special consideration does not reliably exist in the game right now. When that window gets punched and you snap fire to that hole - you hit that shield, BB retains the advantage.

His shield simply needs a nerf in functionality, and maybe a reduction in overall hits it can absorb since it does have crazy high HP. Considering the shield is mounted directly to the gun, the shield getting hit a bullet SHOULD move his reticle way off point.
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>>148103943
It's about as legit as the photo you posted
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>its a match plats against a premade of literal pro players game
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>>147956831
French average: 16
American average 12-13

ayy
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>>148107801
>16 inch dick

How do you even walk.
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>>148107874
Not falling for that americunt
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>>148108000
What?
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>>148108046
French people are on the metric system, so he has a 16 meter dick.
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>>148108634
>meter
That's even longer, you mean centimeter
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>>148109146
No, I mean meter.
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>>148109408
Probably pass out from poor circulation if such a penis ever became erect
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>>148103943
Compared to counter strike where professionals hack in majors, extremely.
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>its a shitters bitch about BB thread

Your tears are delicious
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>>148101715
How about
>Shield brakes five times as fast
>Blackbeard gets five shields
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>>148100317
>muh floor hatches
>ranked in basement of oregon
>jam floor hatch
>enemy tries to kill the jammer, get some easy damage and a kill
>jammer never dies
>enemy just does the floorhatch glitch
>twice
>don't acknowladge it as a glitch, say it's legit
>proceed to call us headglitchers when we win
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Just got killed by Blackbeard again
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>>148104213
My valk cams last the entire round unless someone spots. I also fuck up BB because I don't wait inside the room right beside the hostage and I have nitro that I use whenever BB gets close to the window to fuck his day.

I also listen to team callouts and even without nitro or shotgun I can keep blackbeard busy long enough by making it disadvantageous for him to enter an engagement with an enemy in a random location for a long enough for my teammate to come and save my ass

Just like the c4 rip, which I had trouble hearing until I trained myself, his gunshots and footsteps take skill to hear. Even when he's windowpeeking, you shouldn't act surprised when your opposite window blows open and there's that seals buttmonkey sitting there staring at you. In which case, by the time that happens you should've just broken open downstairs door and shot him in his beautifull butt he displays so proudly. also his shield is flat as fuck so if you can bait him to look away even a 45 degree angle you got a free kill

I used to loathe blackbeard because I couldn't see him, I'd always peek him and lose and I'd always peek with nitro and lose and I shitpost about him here.

But after playing 50 somethng hours at lvl 150 tier matches He's honestly not that bad, I rather enjoy how he forces you to change tactics around. BB is a great addition to the game, if you don't think that youj're obviously more concerned with your kd ratios than having fun.

That being said I think he could use a small nerf, like slower mouse movement speed when turning or 5 shields that take 5 shots each, which would make playing against and with bb a lto more interesting

Also t. yours bronze 3 shitter
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>>148114190
Lol there's literally no defense against him that works, they added an operator who can't die by headshot in a game about headshots, it's like adding a car that can teleport in a racing game
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>>148114560
I've had plenty of luck killing blackbeard
>stairs
>valk cam plus nitro, waiting at windows
>spawnkilling
>hiding in a random corner unknowst to enemy while they're focused on hunting down your teammate
>not engaging in a fight, running away barricading doors and waiting for teammate to get him
>above but playing the time
>kill hole aimed at a valutable surface
>waiting for him to rappel in
>nitro around corner
>nitro through the floor
>nitro up the hatch
>nitro downstairs
>nitro in his morning fucking cereal
>frost shotgun surprise
>valk shotgun surprise at slightly longer range
>waiting him to turn corner with shotgun/smg bodyshots
>just playin playing the time

Most time people die to blackbeard is when BB is the last guy alive so they all rush him to get the kill, giving BB an ez win. BB is easier to counter than learning all the maps
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>>148115290
Yeah exactly you need luck to kill him. In a straight 1v1 against him you will always lose.
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>>148115391
I've seen people win straight 1v1's against blackbeards often by not being retarded and peeking instantly. And the BB player is was so good people accused him of acting.
I've even won a 1v1 where bb had all the possible advantages ever and I destroyed his shiled, made him run out of ammo, downed him and executed him all while he was forced to back away from windowpeek to outside to behind cover where he died.

I'm fucking bronze 2 and I'm saying BB is counterable, even if it's played by lvl 180 plat
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>>148114190
>I magically know where Blackbeard will be every single match because I'm psychic and that is why he is perfectly balanced
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>>148115914
>le roll valk cams
>le roll communication
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>>148115290
NOBODY HERE IS SAYING HE CAN NOT BE KILLED YOU FAGGOT

They are saying in a game that is almost entirely about headshots and being the better player, they added a character that is immune to headshots and penalizes you for playing the game how you should

He is unquestionably undeniably broken and just because you, like everybody else, has found ways to kill him does not make him BALANCED YOU COCK GOBBLING FUCK WEASEL

Like what part of B A L A N C E D do you not understand?

>BB is easier to counter than learning all the maps

You are a fucking idiot because your entire argument is all about outplaying and out maneuvering Blackbeard, which requires intimate map knowledge. HOw is Map Knowledge harder than Map Knowledge + Learning how to use it specifically against one operator.

God you are a fucking pile of shit I hope you die.
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>>148115686
You understand if you were playing a racing game, and one person got to drive a car that was 5% faster, it wouldn't be fair and balanced, right?

You could still win, for sure, and you might frequently do so. But he's going to win more times than he'd lose in a straight up race, cause his car isn't balanced to be fair - it's designed to be better than yours.

This is Blackbeard.
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>>148116279
stop being so mad I'm not arguing he's unbalanced, he could use something like the ez break shields x5 one anon suggested.

>>148114560
>Lol there's literally no defense against him that works,
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>>148116585
montagnes car would be 100% fastrer then because he can not be killed at all save by nitro.

A lot of arguments anti BB I hear are people playing against BB, nobody seems to mention how it's like playing as bb, which indicates bunch of newcomers getting mad.

Don't worry you'll learn the game and playing against BB will become an adrenalin rush
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>>148117165
I will not stop being mad because this bullshit needs to stop. Just because BB can be killed does not make him balanced.

In European Roulette the house edge is only 2.7%. That means it's ALMOST a perfectly fair 50/50 coin toss, except that have 2.7% odds in their favor. That 2.7% makes Roulette one of the most profitable games a casino has. This is not balanced.

The car analogy a few other guys in the thread used, a teleporting car or a car with just a little bit extra speed, even if you beat it in a race, is not balanced.

Blackbeard's shield gives him a massive edge. Whether it makes him "overpowered" or a "god" - who knows. What we do know is he is regularly killed. This doesn't make him fair and balanced Operator.

>>148117330
Montagne also can not kill people you fucktard. The fact his damage intake is reduced to 0% is offset by his damage being 0%.
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>>148117568
>being so bad at countering BB you get bad at reading any posts containing BB
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>>148117568
you are trying to convince a retard that he a retard.
let him be wrong, it doesn't make a difference since devs don't read this thread.
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>>148065584
>siege out longer
>only losing roughly a third of playerbase
>destiny loses over 90%

Build a game on solid gameplay foundations and it will outlast any grindfest4loot out there.
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>>148117568
This, it boils down to BB behaving almost exactly like any other smg/assault rifle operater except he is invincible to headshots from the front, anyone who has played even a little Siege will know how unbalanced this is.
In order to counter BB you have to employ extremely risky tactics, like getting close with shottys, c4, smoke etc or flanking, these tactics are appropriate for shield players due to their extreme inaccuracy however BB could easily be aiming at your head when you make any of these plays. It's no wonder BB has my highest K/D and W/L even though i've only played him for 3hrs, he is a game changer and not for the better.
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>>148115290
You can do that against any operator...except you can't headshot him from the front and he's aiming an AR at you.
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>>148119781
then just try not to headhsot him from the front when he's looking at you.

BB is like a shield except shield covers less and he gets a way better gun

If you don't get mad at shields don't get mad at BB. Saying he's OP is fine but 20 fucking posts of people getting mad in all caps about blackbeard playing his hit song "poor little bronze guy" on them is a fucking waste of energy.

BB is bit too good at what it does but he is fun to counter and about as hard to counter as a shield
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>>148119781
It's another "you can do that against another operator so it doesn't count" episode

Don't worry, you will soon learn the game and stop complaining
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>>148120146
It's an unbalanced part of the game, why is that so hard for you to grasp? in 140hrs this is probably my only major balance issue (there have been a few others), it's clear a practically invincible to headshots operative in siege doesn't work all that well but there are always the "git gud" crowd who will defend every single thing in a mp game, no matter how unbalanced in order to hold the high ground of the mantra of "just deal with it", it is ok to ask for a part of the game to be changed if it's not working.
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kurwa
assault rifles a best
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>>148120520
>so mad
>Blind BB hate and claim that BB is the only unbalanced thing
>ignores when people disagree and say he's unbalanced but not so much

Wow you are so buttblasted 140 hours and you still suck ass
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>Bomb room is empty
>We control the hallway outside
>Fuze pucks the room when I'm the only one in there, killing me
>Dude with the defuser runs right into the other bomb room where two enemies are and dies in the doorway
>Some other dude goes down and starts swearing in Russian while repeatedly saying 'fuck you'
>Last guy alive just lags out
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>>148120060
Once again shields do not have the killing capacity of blackbeard, and they make themselves vulnerable in numerous ways.

In fact during the alpha and beta phases shield ops could 100% ADS with their pistol and be fully protected. Ubisoft took that out, and then added it back in except arguably worse (BB can be shielded whole rappelling)

I will say it again and as many times as it takes: just because you CAN kill him does not make it balanced. Just because you can win money at Roulette does not mean the house doesn't have an edge.

He is fundamentally unbalanced and needs to be tweaked. He will be tweaked because BBs pick rate is through the roof so the nerf will hit eventually. Just a matter of when.

JUST
BECAUSE
YOU
CAN
KILL
HIM........
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>>148123106
>BBs pick rate is through the roof
When will they add DLC ops so we can see their official pick rates?
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>>148123447
>Implying every game doesn't have BB every round
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>>148123106
Might as well nerf thermite and rook as well because their pickrate is near 100%

Also it's a shame BB is so unbalanced, and yet the win rate between attackers and defenders is 49/51.

JMust because you suck dick at defeating blackbeard and go on mad autismo blogging sprees doesn't mean the game's broken. He's a bit too good at what he does while blitz and ash have broken hitboxes, but he's not gamebreaking and he's fun to play against.

Just git gud and you won't be this mad anymore
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>>148123537
>implying they didn't nerf Thermite
>Implying they shouldn't nerf Rook and Buff doc
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>>148123537
>yet the win rate between attackers and defenders is 49/51.
This is actually due to the kapkan and mute buffs, it used to be 50/50, even with bb
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>>148123537
Nobody has said he is game breaking, and you literally agree he is too good ("He's a bit too good at what he does"), so I have no idea what your post is even about man
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>>148123696
Because I've been agreeing that he needs some sort of change and scrubs who get BTFO have been ignoring it on multible occations and have go on autismal REEEEEE spree

It's fucking hilarious how buttblasted people get
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>>148123627
>it used to be 50/50, even with bb
Blackbeard doesn't affect winrate, because while his gadget is good in 1v1 situations, his team misses out on a Tatcher, Thermite, Ash or Sledge, whose gadgets benefit the entire team.
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>>148124080
if used correctly he can be really useful at making attack easier.

Valk on other hand is fucking essential
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>>148122764
Great argument, we have actual reasons as to why he is unbalanced, your argument is that you can technically still shoot him (given the perfect angle), well done.
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Doc is for selfish assholes who just want a free death.

If they actually wanted to play a support character they would pick Rook who benefits everyone.
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>>148125554
>Doc main in my squad
>Picks Doc even when there's no Rook
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>>148125554
>>148125650
Maybe they're desperately waiting for situations where Doc is actually useful. You know, those moments that pop up once every 10 hours of play.
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>>148123537
>win rate between attackers and defenders is 49/51.

This the win rate post DLC?
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Can we stop arguing about nerfing Blackbeard and talk about buffing Mute?
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>>148125201
just killed blackbeard on plane while hiding in an obvious spot and he had a friendly peeking other way.
Just burst into legs, done, blackbeard killed in a situation that is 99% in his favor.
Literally git gud faggot. Everyone has given you advice and you choose to ignore it and you choose to bitch instead
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>>148125950
it's the win rate right now. It used to be 50/50 on pc post DLC, now after mute and kap buffs it's 49/10.

Still statistically better balanced game than chess

>>148126018
Mute is buffed as fuck
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>>148126018
Do the MP5 and MP5k even have different stats besides no ACOG on the MP5k?
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>>148126235
yes
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>>148126232
His jammer still doesn't have much effect. It has strength in numbers and nothing more. The verticality of it is still bugged as shit and unpredictable as all hell.

>>148126235
MP5K is way more stable IMO, and has better rate of fire. If it had ACOG it would be one of the best SMG's hands down, up there with the MP7.
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>>148126367
Eh nevermind, they have the same rate of fire and most of the control pros probably come from having a 1x sight. Disregard me being a retard.
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>get the perfect flank on Kanal from Garage, objective is in the Boat House
>see someone moving from my peripheral vision
>shoot at the head
>white hitmarkers
every time
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>>148126127
>Just burst into legs, done, blackbeard killed in a situation that is 99% in his favor.

Christ almighty the point is that you have to adjust aim on a normal operator (not shield) while the 1 hit headshot is in place, so both players are mostly equal yet one can't get headshotted from the front, get it?
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>>148123537
>Might as well nerf thermite
They did.
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IT'S UP
http://forums.ubi.com/showthread.php/1470486
>The "lucky operator" buff
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>>148130728
>buffing Pulse
what the fuck
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>>148130728
>pulse buff
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>>148130728
>wallhacks: the operator got buffed
>still has nitro, m1014, and 3 speed
I know who I'm going to be playing more
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>>148126232
It would be interesting to see the win rate with a team with BB as opposed to without, because atm he seems to be a required pick.
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>>148130728
>>148130914
>>148131065
>>148131407
The only way I could see them reaching this conclusion is if they made the same mistaken assumption I did (and even I changed my mind on that rather quickly) and thought that Valk. made Pulse redundant.
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>>148130728
>http://forums.ubi.com/showthread.php/1470486
al you bb butthurt fags feel welcome, you can now directly counter BB
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Looking at the "pulse buff" its more of a quality-of-life improvement than anything.

So not only is it an improvement to an already good operator, its an improvement that nobody really asked for or needed.

They could have buffed tachanka, but nooooo let's make pulse's scanner easier to read for those with sub-goldfish brains.
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>tfw pulse buff
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>>148130728
>http://forums.ubi.com/showthread.php/1470486
>castle is still useless
>tachanka is still useless
>montagne is still useless
>IQ is still useless
>they buffed the operator who didn't need a buff
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>>148131991
>chanka remains immobile
>fuze can still cluster charge castlecades
ubi pls
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game's fun when it works and matchmaking doesnt give you a one sided stomp
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>>148132230
>fuze can still cluster charge castlecades
He should be able to.
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>>148132441
Not sure im behind the first to 5 ranked system, I like Siege's less drawn out matches compared to GO, first to 3 seems fine.
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>>148132131
>castle is still useless
Castle is great for funneling enemies where you want
>tachanka is still useless
He's like old kapkan traps, if you use how fucking obvious you are to your advantage instead of setting it down to do an omaha beach recreation, he can be used to grind the assault to an halt
>montagne is still useless
Monty is GOAT for info to your team, bomb planting and objective capture
>IQ is still useless
IQ is the only thing that can find valk cams
>they buffed the operator who didn't need a buff
His thingy was extremely poorly designed and required you to find someone to explain it to you before you udnerstood how it worked
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>>148132970
>yfw poorfag with shitty tv as a monitor so can only use acog scopes

Cut's off many operators for me.
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some of the shit you people say amazes me. i underestimated how little a person that spouts their retarded misinformation as fact can actually know about the game.

it's like, every professional player streamer and youtuber you can ask will agree Blackbeard is too good at what he does, serenity, macie, machay, microwave, some orbit players, remorce. basically everyone decent at the game agrees on this yet silver 3 4chan god master of everything still insists they're just bad for "not just flanking him, bro" or "lol dont peek him bro!!"
It's like you misunderstand the game on such a fundamental level that I'm actually curious how you manage to get dressed in the morning if you can't even figure out basics of the game like area control, how blackbeard completely shuts down entire portions of the map simply because you cannot challenge him and "flanking" him isn't going to work because he can A) hear you and B) has a team too, but keep on thinking you're better than the people who do this for a living because you managed to kill that standing Bronze 2 blackbeard with an auto-shotgun that one time
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>>148132970
are you serious
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>All these redditors in this thread defending BB and saying he's perfectly balanced
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>>148132597
No he shouldn't. It's basically 100% safer for Fuze to cluster charge a Castlecade than any other barrier.
>b-but you can bait with C4
Oh right, which Castle doesn't even have. It's hilarious that Castle is only useful with other operators around who can destroy his gadget.
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>finally start game
>entire enemy team has 200+ ping
>le peek mainstreet on bank, domes half our team

How is this allowed
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>not just pink warding the rifle shield
fuckin bronzies when will they learn
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Why doesn't ubi ban people for playing outside their region given how powerful ping is?
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>>148132970
>Castlecades funneling anyone while Sledge and Ash are on attackers
Castlecades are a total non-issue for any team with half a brain
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>>148134110
If you are in a position where you can get fuzed from any doorway, castle or no, you've fucked up

Nearly any time I try to fuze a castlecade door I get shot in the foot until death anyways
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>>148101660
I really like BB, and he's a lot easier to handle now than when I first faced him. His ability outright deters players camping doors, killholes, and breached floors, making him great for the long push toward the objective. But since he's so fat & loud, any piece of intel and a roamer works against Blackbeard. Defending cockpit on Yacht I gave a note that I had him on camera 2F on the other end, and my m8 ran through the boiler level to meet him there.

Changes to Blackbeard I could see being implemented:

>dark or neon-blue tint on the shield for faster identification
The white hitmarkers are a sign that it's too late to retreat, with a colored shield operators can know if the head that is peeking is BB and determine whether to fight or take flight

>become heavier with shield on
Excuse me if this already exists, there aren't many drawbacks to having the shield on, so players tend to keep it for the entire match, making his gun take longer to draw as well as increasing hipfire recoil, coupled with his U.S. fatty movement, will keep BB grounded

>make BB louder
Facing a BB is tense when your cams are down and your team is dead. Its important to know where BB is coming from so you can anticipate his next peeking location. A necklace of slaybells around BB's neck easily remedies this, as no other operator will wear slaybells,BB's presence will be utterly distinct. Alternatively, on par with his American attitude, is to make him pant heavily whenever he starts to move farther than 1 or 2 meters. The further BB moves the more labored his breathing becomes, until his panting can be heard clearly throughout the map. This sets up the next change for BB

>BB Heart Attack
With heavy-panting-BB the further he goes the louder and more labored his breathing becomes, becomes, to the point where it becomes unbearable for attackers and defenders alike. As BB overexerts himself it'll be more likely for him to suffer a cardiac arrest, ultimatelyremoving him from play
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>>148134691
Don't ignore how safe Castle windows are for Fuze
>defending 3rd floor bank
>implying Castlecading those 2 windows isn't every Fuze's wet dream
It's fucking stupid. If Fuze gets to keep doing that shit, then give Castle fucking nitro already. I can't believe how shitty Castle is even after all this time.
>still no ACOG on UMP either
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>>148135068
Point one is nice, pretty sure two and three are in, four is dumb though.
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>>148135068
>slaybells
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ded
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>>148139670
Shameless Self Promotion Bump
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wGlbEJlCraQ
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New headgear when
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>>148052480
Take this idea to buff Tachanka. Make his turret motion sensored and automated.
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>>148140293
Why does so much of the headgear suck shit when most of the gun skins are nice?
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>>148141529
>most of the gun skins are nice
Almost all the gun skins are just textures that are lazily wrapped around the gun. And when the texture has some sort of image on it instead of being a simple pattern, they don't even bother trying to line it up so it looks good on the gun.
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>>148142102
Pretty much this.

I can't even put a skin on the revolver because of how trash they look.

Like, maybe if the Gold skin still left the wood handle, it'd be okay, but nope.
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Hey r6g, I need your help identifying which particular Rainbow Six game I recall playing as a kid

> Definitely on PS2
> Co-op campaign
> One early level took place partly in a pitch-black parking garage, necessitating the use of NVGs
> It was hard as fucking balls on higher difficulties, one or two shots would drop you, so my brother and I had to play real slow and tactical, working together to breach doors and provide cover, etc

Secondary question, do the modern R6 games still have slower, tactically accurate single player modes like this, or has it all turned into Call of Duty?
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>>148142102
>>148142260
They may just be textures but they're nice textures imo. At least the high-renown-cost ones.
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GIGN challenge starts tomorrow
>The initial objective will be to win 5 rounds as a GIGN Operator (Recruits count for this challenge as well!). Upon completion, you will be granted 500 Renown. The second part will require you win 20 additional rounds as a GIGN Operator
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>>148142505
>(Recruits count for this challenge as well!)
Hell yeah. GIGN shotgun revolver attacker recruit here I come
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>>148142264
>the modern R6 games
The last Rainbow Six games with a singleplayer mode were the vegas ones, and I wouldn't call those modern anymore.
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>>148142264
I don't know about ps2, but the pc version of lockdown started in a parking garage.
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>>148065584
>all time peak was 100,000+
How?
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>>148143849
Pre-orders
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>>148065584
All ubisoft cares about is that all-time peak, because assuming a number of those people never refunded, then they made a killing even if the game died shortly after launch.
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this man killed the whole team from that position.
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>>148144549
People never expect you're prone.
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>>148104559
show them.
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Still nothing on the new update?

What the fuck are the doing, do they want the game to die and be forgotten?
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>>148146136

>>148130728
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>>147963216

Yea ofc im olive skinned

>being white 2016

lmao
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Is Doc a good ranked operator?

I love his headgear, and would like to use him in ranked since I don't have any other defenders with headgear I like, except Castle kind of.
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>>148130728
>tfw I mostly play pulse when defending

nice
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>Valkyrie
>FIXED – Throwing a Black Eye outside during prep phase does not destroy it. (This does not apply to Terrorist Hunt)

Why has nobody mentioned this? This is a significant nerf.
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>>148148795
I might not be understanding something.

I thought you weren't supposed to be able to put a black eye outside before the match started?
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>>148149042
When you throw a cam outside, it just hits the red barrier and falls down, so now it explodes when it hits the barrier?
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>>148148795
It's because you misread the sentence
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>>148145241
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>>148135068
>>148136643
https://youtu.be/VCvTPiKNvt4
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>>148066098
Nice lie, you can set it to record up to the last 15 minutes of gameplay, Its how I capture everything.
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>>148066098
>>148153954
I'm surprised some people still don't know the capture feature.
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Alright Kinder, it took me almost a full month but I finaly got off my lazy ass, enjoy

http://webmshare.com/axMPM
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>>148155253
>got off lazy ass
>still didn't adjust size/length to post on 4chan

sorry nobody is looking at your link.
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>>148155801
Can't post audio on /vg/
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>pulse buff


I know we said FBI operator but poor fucking castle
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>>148157402

Easy Castle buff I think would to just make his barricades go all the way to the floor

That way it would also be a drone denial tool and would give Mute reinforced wall/window duty off the gate and people wouldn't be able to kill from under it so they would honestly have to blow it up/remove it completely for access.
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>>148157768
>barricade to the floor
>buff
drones mean shit, the defenders being able to shoot feet of attackers trying to breach the castle barricade is 9000 more important than blocking drones which will just take another route in or can be shot pretty easily.
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>>148157768

nah check this

one guy said this should be their own operator but this would make castle crazy good.

Give him 4 armor panels

Panels can now go on walls or the floor what ever tickles your fancy

Makes the paneled walls/floor bullet proof but not breaching charge proof
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>>148154253
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=liTE8SFvJm4
Killed on ash but died to twitch while reloading, got on cameras just in time to see this.
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>>148158004
I think you just skimmed my post because I definitely also said "and people wouldn't be able to kill from under it"

Which means I said drone denial + shooting underneath and drones do mean shit you must have shit drone game xD in which I feel sorry for you.
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Castle is still a very versatile operator. There's several great tricks to do with him that can entirely counter several different operators and tactics.

>Deploy Shield infront of doorway
>Jager on floor behind (optional)
>Castle on door

They have three options for that doorway.

They can roll a grenade at the shield and then breach like normal

They can spot the Jager, destroy it, Ash the Castle, and have a great cover spot for Blackbeard

They can ignore it and find a different route.

But the first two options require certain resources and operator selection, and possibly even more wasted resources if they don't see the Jager.
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https://youtu.be/xNter0oEYxc?t=358
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>>148158392

ITS HAVOC
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>>148158392

This again...
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>>148158448
>instant follow up
>samefaggot
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>>148158308
ok Imma try again in detail because you seem to have trouble with comprehending what I said:

castle barricades get defended by defenders.
the defenders shoot attackers' feet.
attackers therefore cannot breach the barricade.
the barricade denied entry.

now after they apply your "buff":

defenders cannot shoot attackers' feet.
attackers plant charges without trouble.
barricade goes down, it was useless, entry is open.

you nerfed castle to even more shit tier.
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>>148158392

You understand we hate ubisoft as much as /v/

Game is still pretty fun though

Also the lightning looks way worse than what we have now
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>>148158353
>this stale meme tactic again
M8 there is a reason you never see this done.
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>>148158735

If you use castle like a idiot and barricade close to site but if you use it for area denial and for them to USE their equipment before they even get to site then you achieved the goal...

+ you could castle a entry way somewhere and have a murderhole placed up their are loads of possibilities castle barricade valk cam + c4 mute jammer on the other side of the barricade that goes to the floor stopping charges unless they have thatcher...

YOU must be a bad Castle player.
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>>148158012
Nah dude its just more fuze-bait

Castle is probably going to be switched by another operator come Yr 2, his ability can't be modified in any way that removes the problems he faces now, which is mainly trapping his teammates and doing fuck all else
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>>148158392
>That shitty lighting in the Siege reveal
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>>148159280
>or them to USE their equipment before they even get to site
so them using 1 out of 3 breaching charges, or 1 out 25 hammer hits is a good defense strategy?

>C4
just get's EMPed, even more so if Jammer is nearby.

>YOU must be a bad Castle player
no, I don't play him at all because he is borderline useless as is, but I am well aware what you can and can't do with him.
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>>148160493
Was your teammate running a drone or something? Was the enemy oblivious to them? Still trying to wrap my head around that.
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>>148161403
BB is clearly using a drone.
Also judging by the aim of both and BB droning in a open position, this is a Copper match so wild things can happen.
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>2 chanka kills
>tachanka mvp
Good Game
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>>148126232
>49/10
what
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>>148161663
>>148161403
It was casual but I was so thrown off by valk not shooting him. Thought she had run right past him. You really can't use your better judgment while playing against shitters.
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>>148164082
As a casual shitter, I can not really say anything. Still, was strange to watch.
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>>148166365
What is this, the relative amounts of semen in their asses?
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Looking for squad mates

Add me on xbl :CrazyE x

Let's play some video games.
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>>148166365
I don't get it, what is this?
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>>148166610
>>148168390

muh esport picks
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>>148168676
>Thatcher
>46%
>esports
Pretty sure this is wrong.
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>>148169140
Notice that right behind Thatcher are Twitch and IQ. I'm going to hazard a guess and say that means the fifth man on attackers was Thatcher half the time, and split between Twitch and IQ for the other half, plus a few percentage points when one of the top four wasn't picked, probably Sledge.
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>>148169140
Ash has been picked every single time apparently, thats a higher percentage than either rook or thermite
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>>148169140
>pretty sure this is wrong
>when it's data compiled from a known number of games played with a known number of operators and a known selection of operators

dumb
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>>148166365
>>148168676
>Bandit 33%
>Mute 2%
Mutefags BTFO
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>>148166365
>no one picking based Montagne
>""""PROFESSIONALS"""""

more like paid shitters lmao
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>>148169694
>can only pick 1 shield per game
>blackbeard counts as a shield
no wonder
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>>148169620
Nah. The point of Mute is that he's good in solo queue because he can do so many things.
Like if your team goes full roamers but didn't pick Bandit for whatever reason, Mute can fill the gap and still sit on the objective okay.

In a coordinated scene where every team will ensure critical walls are covered by a Bandit instead of making meme portable shield traps, there's no reason to take Mute. Also, pros can hit drones and communicate to ensure they're all taken out.
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>>148170072
Or, if your team has a Doc, Rook, and Valk sitting on cameras and the like, his 2 Speed and suppressor not affecting his damage means he can roam as needed.

Like Sledge and Buck, he's an all-purpose op, but defenders have more diverse needs than just breaking walls open and having good guns.
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>>148169402
>>148169547
Do you autists even watch ESL?
Thatcher is a 100% pick.

>>148169449
Ash is also always picked so that checks out, although they blatantly use her launcher on the smallest shit and just like her high speed.

>also everybody forgets that ESL matches play vastly different than normal ranked games
Everything is about muh high speed, they move like they are playing CS:GO.
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>>148170315
>Everything is about muh high speed
Well, to be fair, decisive actions does win more games than being slow and cautious will, simply because of peeker's advantage.
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>playing ranked
>game freezes
>have to restart
>by the time I get back in, we're already down 0-2
>get it to 2-2
>lose next round, get a message saying gg ez
>top of my team still
>push it to 3-3 than we go down 3-4
>tie it up
>last round is down to me and BB vs valk, pulse, and smoke
>bait pulse outside and down him
>wait until there's someone next to him
>kill them both
>1v2
>smoke is last alive in room
>BB goes to window, going to flush him out in front of it
>suddenly game freezes again
>rage like fuck
>message team, ask if they won
>they lost

I fucking hate shitters.
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>>148170440
Yes, just watch one ESL match, shit is ridiculous.
They are constantly moving left to right so netcode gives them some headshot protection.
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>>148166365
see
>>148170315
"pro" league is a joke and operator stats can't be compared, they play nothing like ranked.
no surprise though cause most of the guys involved come from counter strike because they like to use established e-sport teams.
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>>147945532
>Sperging so hard over a retarded teammate you become the retarded teammate
Okay I get it, you wanted that kill hole but shit dude, you should know once you down someone on your team you're gonna get rekt regardless whether you kill them or not.

Should've just conceded and moved on. Hope it was casual, I'll assume it was since you were playing solo.
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So I just checked my stats. I have bad accuracy. But I like to spam bullets to prefire, and even spam bullets to suppress the enemy like, no no no, there are bullets here. Don't go here. (.22) That is pretty bad.
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>>148170934
So ESL is just turning what makes Siege fun into another CS clone with destruction? That's fucking lame.

Any "pro leagues" seem to ruin every game it gets popular enough to warrant a league on until everyone just does what the pros do and then it gets stale.

Like when Ranked in Hearthstone was 90% Zoolock for months upon months.
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>>148171297
Are you winning?
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>>148171547
>another CS clone with destruction
This is precisely how they play.
Usage of abilities is nearly non existent.
Barely any match gets won by taking/defending the objectives, it is all about that 1337 headshot spree.
The only reason I watch it is because sometimes they use rush through paths I haven't seen before for extreme flanking/roaming.
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>>148171945
I thought getting the defuser placed is important though. Aren't rounds only 3 minutes?
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>>148101524
>1.57 k/d
casual, i have 2.3 on BB and my ranked is 0.8
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>>148172708
There are 2 types of ESL matches.

The more common one is both teams staying as far apart for 2 minutes and 30 seconds trying to kill each other by prefiring every single location known to man, followed by a 30 second phase of extreme rushing, with the better/luckier aimers winning.

The less common type is sprinting into each other ASAP and basically the same as the first one's last 30 seconds.
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>>148101715
I like this image because it shows how all the auto shotties except the sasg take fewer shots to break the shield than the gign shotgun.
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>>148103943
'bout the same, but comparing it to VAC isn't a compliment, it's an insult to the anti-cheat.
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>>148171687
I think I am an average player?
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>>147956842
Why the fuck do those faggot filters exist in the first place? Fucking annoying.
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>>148173557
looks pretty average to me desusenpai
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>>148173039
I had the latter style of gameplay happen in ranked by surprise

We were all in the kitchen above the bomb site downstairs on biker bar.

Fuze was planting a cluster charge on the trapdoor when his brother playing buck shot the trapdoor out to grief him. We all followed him down and completely took the enemy team down with only Fuze getting DBNO within the first 10 seconds.

It was magical.
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>>148103943
Saving picture because reasons
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>>148157768
Just let Castle shoot through his own barricades like Glaz. It'd make him a strong defender since people who would attempt to breach charge or cluster charge it get fucked.
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>>148171945
After having watched Season 1 and half of Season 2, I came to the conclusion that they don't know what they're doing. Most of them die in stupid ways like rushing, and they always take forever to do something (which the commentators criticize constantly).

Just as a comparison, Macie Jay and friends once went against Empire, a pro team that made it into Season 2. Empire lost then proceeded to act like shitters and badmouth them because they couldn't accept their 10k hours of CS doesn't translate completely well in Siege.
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>>148175108
He'd need a special gun for that, otherwise why can Castle do it but not Pulse? They both have the same guns.
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>>148176427
give him a flechette shotgun
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>>148175108
Sledge should need three hits to break a castlecade, not just one. It's better than a wooden barrier, and against Sledge that should be reflected.
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How would you feel if they gave shotguns another "attachment"? Can switch between slugs or buckshot? Also on another note, Super Shorty as a sidearm for future operators.
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>>148176820
Ive been wanting slug rounds since the game came out.
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Saving up for Buck, just for the FAL. Can I use the Skeleton Key as an offensive weapon, or just for walls?
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>>148176182
they also lost against milspec twice and acn that hadn't been together for months, missing the best player from acn. I've beaten a pre-comp of diamonds once, but 9/10 times i'll get rekt, same with mahchay's squad with pro league teams
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>>148177487
It used to be offensive but now it's for walls with the reduced range.
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>>148177487
skeleton key is inconsistent but when it works it's stronk. fal is shit though, blackbeard is the only op who has a dmr that should be considered.
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>>148177330
>>148176820
What is the pros and cons of switching between slugs and buckshot? Buckshot enables you to open kill holes and has a "larger hitbox" i.e. spread. Slugs would have smaller spread and you can't make holes. It becomes a ghetto dmr?
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>>148177487
skeleton key is only good for murderhole sized holes, not great for offense. fal is shit, c8 is worse than l85, just use sledge and save for either seal
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>>148178084
If the skeleton key worked as intended you could make vault-able sized holes almost the same size as sledges holes. But ubisoft says it "works". http://forums.ubi.com/showthread.php/1468979-Bug-Buck-s-Shotgun?p=11818703&viewfull=1#post11818703
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>>148178425
about two inches work for vault-able holes.
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>>148178591
Can you elaborate?
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>>148177889
>>148178084
>Fal is shit.

TELL THAT TO THE RHODESIANS.
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>>148178690
there is a very small sweetspot from walls that buck can make a one shot vault-able hole from
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>>148179110
this game doesn't have realistic gun balance, the f2 is the best gun in the game and the mac-10 is a sniper.
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>>148179110
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>>148179360

>He doesnt know who the Rhodesians are

but for real if you use a DMR dont go with an ACOG use a holo
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>tfw TS is down
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>3hp
>tell friend to shoot my foot with his pistol so he can revive me
>he proceeds to cap me with his DMR
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>>148180345
jump off a roof if you can. ideally don't play with people who use dmr's
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>>148180345
>teammate walks up to me and asks me to shoot him
>drop him with a headshot
>tell him he didn't specify where
Sometimes being an asshole is fun.
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>>148180786
he deserved it if he walked up to you to get shot.
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>>148178059
not him, but making slugs about equivalent to a shot from Glaz would mean they could still open up walls (from farther away) and punch holes in castlecades.

also shoot through windows on plane
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>>148180786
They were asking for it after all. Did you teabag them after?
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>>148181441
i'd probably dodge plane if defenders could shoot through plane windows. we don't need to make glaz worse also.
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I've seen a few suggestions on how to nerf BB, but how about just nerfing his guns to do less damage or be more inaccurate?

Also, has ubi commented at all about the head hitboxes?
Why are they not consistent across operators?
Is it a balance decision to make all gsg-9 dudes easier to headshot?
I find blitz unplayable since you can get headshot when looking right at your attacker with the shield up
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>Stop paying attention during prep phase as Defender.
>Castled into a bathroom.
>"Oh well."
>Put up ADS
>Enemy Blitz crashes through window, does not see me.
>Unload into his back.
>Tear down Castlecade,
>Finish off IQ prone directly outside.
>2v1
>Ally gets popped like a ripe piece of fruit.
>"Fuckit."
>Prone in bathroom, peek.
>Buck runs in, laser on rifle revealing him
>Drop him, my best round ever.

I'm just so happy.
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>>148182690
After the new ops are out, they will half all the bullets that break his shield. Then you people will stop crying about that.
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>>148182690
that doesn't change much, all guns shoot completely accurate in ads mode with the exception of tachanka's turret, even if they gave his guns more recoil, and less damage he still can do tap-fire and go for headshots and have all day to do so. i'll still stand behind giving him 3 shields that break after 4-5 smg shots and giving him a real gun instead of an acceptable peashooter and the worst ar.
>>148182854
i probably will still be sad when the p90 takes 18 bullets to break it.
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>>148182773
god bless laser sights, I get so many kills thanks to them
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>>148183289
>using the shit90
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So I was just playing evolve and it likes to show a persons win streak.


I would like this in siege
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>>148183415
You have any idea how many people would quit as soon as they see someone's crazy win streak?
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>>148181465
I spun in a circle.
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>>148183520
>not wanting to be the one to end the streak
Where's your competitive spirit?
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>>148183312
>>148182773
>playing buck on hereford
>objective is top floor
>shoot down the barricade on the room opposite stairs
>see laser sight on window sill
>no kapkan or frost on defense
>vault in and prefire the fuck out of the castle chilling in the corner by the metal panels with the skeleton key
>one shot down him
thank you laser sights, it was on the ump too, not even a shotty.
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>>148183858
You killed Castle with the Skele? Nice!
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>>148184537
getting kills with the skeleton key feels like an accomplishment, when you could be running thermite/recruit with the m1014 and have a real shotgun
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I have more names for the known hacker list
Trojan.Backdoor
Infiltrat0r.ini
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>>148183415
>>148183520
>>148183757


Take this and replace it with blackbeard
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>>148185483
A Defender survival mode against monsters would be awesome.
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>>148186586
God dammit, I've seen enough of that in /b/, can we please leave it out of a good general? It's a staged picture that's being used by the media to make BLM look like heroes.
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>>148186586
just stay behind her and some dindu will shoot her. Then watch her die and YOU WON
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>>148186586
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>>148186586

>Tankman photo


You know shit like tankman and the burning monk that was real oppression REAL struggle and people type that shit just to get website hits.

I am actually mad right now people would have the audacity to compare such a thing to this.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=89F5fpvwPr0
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>>148187350
It's niggers, they do all sort of silly stuff
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>>148187530
Do you really want your children or grandchildren seeing that image in a history book, along with the "history" to go along with it? Makes a man sick.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rYBCtdo9wDU

>another siege clone already
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>decide to watch ESL pro league
>"pros" are literally in twitch chat during the match shit talking eachother
>players from both teams whining about the others picking "too many shotguns"
>whining about no "shotgun limit"
>one team leaves the match because someone dropshotted them and apparently that's against the rules
>other team leaves the match when they restart for an unknown reason
>10 mintue break in the middle of a match
>players from other teams shitposting about platforms, other players, rules, teams etc in chat during all of this
>casters shittalking players during the matches and typing in twitch chat during matches
coming from CSGO this is incredibly unprofessional and im actually kind of taken aback. im assuming this is just because it's console day, right? PC isn't like this?

it's kind of comfy too though to be honestt
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>>148188207
>children
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>>148188624
>a war is about to break out between the Royalists and the Feudal Republican Insurgency
>Feudal Republican Insurgency

FUCKING ENGLISH TRIVIALIZING OUR PEOPLE
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>>148188859
the irish are the slavs of the UK
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>>148188732
Doesn't PC have cheaters getting caught every time?

I said it earlier and I'll say it again ESL for Siege is fucking toxic. All these stupid ass arbitrary rules, maps restrictions, weapon restrictions is pathetic.

If you wanna play the game like it's CS then stay in CS. I'd rather watch slow methodical gameplay rather than a whole team rushing objectives without using gadgets and treating it like team death match. ESL and all the "pros" are faggots.
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>>148189184
Fuck off Brexit cuck
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>>148189339
>all the "pros" are faggots

I can smell the silver from here. If you actually were diamond you would know some of them actually are pretty chill.
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>>148189339
Everything about this game is a mess. The pro league, the netcode, the matchmaking, the developers.

I guess they did balance it pretty well for the most part, at least. I wish it was developed by a competent dev, this would be my favorite shooter if it worked properly.

They really need to get some professionals on this ESL shit, this match has been on hold for literally 30 mintues now. I don't understand, ESL goes smoothly in every other game I've watched and then there's siege with this shitfest of a league. Did ESL just dump their shitter production team into Siege because doesn't get enough viewers to be worth it? Sheesh
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>>148188859
>feudal
>republican

that doesn't even work
>Irish republican army
>make Irish into feudal because lel, shitty colony
>nevermind that we made it shit
>make army into insurgent, because lol colonies can't have armies only peasant rebels and bandits
>keep republican so everyone knows who we're talking about

Truly, truly high quality writing.
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>>148189776
>>148189339
>>148188732
I really fucking hope this "esports" meme dies away within the next few years

R6S would be a much more fun game to play if they removed arcade mechanics like ammo counters, killfeed, and UI popping up everytime you do something.

Making an ESPORTS game is fucking stupid. OW would be a better game too if they didn't try to cater to both casual players and ESPORTS at the same time. Either choose one or the other, like csgo, or don't go for esports at all.

hopefully the pubescent teenagers who are the bulk of the esports demographic grow up soon.
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>>148189184
>higher standard of living than England
>higher GDP per capita than England
>"they're slavs though"
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>>148189630
im american i dont give a shit about my own politics why on earth would i give a shit about yours?
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>>148190898


>HOW COULD YOU BE A GAMER IF YOU HATE ESPORTS MAN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


I hope esports dies soon

That CSGO gambling thing should turn off alot of outside money pits


The sad part is that CSGO general is fucking centered all around esports and twitter drama
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>>148191041
>I'm stupid so you should be stupid too
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>>148189339
>>148189776
i don't get why people like to shit on pro players, they're all trying to win by playing as effective as possible, but the game is designed in a way that it's most effective to dick around for 2:30 stopping roamers and rush the objective in 0:30. If you want to watch slower gameplay watch youtube content other than pro league shit.
>>
>>148190898
you don't get UI popping up or killcams on the settings esl uses lol
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>season 3 soon
>still know nothing about Brazilian operators
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>>148191835

end of the month


and thats just information :^)
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>>148191835
>refuse to balance BB
>refuse to buff Tachanka, Doc or Castle
>refuse to maybe give a tiny buff to Twitch
>buffing Pulse for whatever fucking reason
>going to add more bullshit operators in a few weeks

I think the game is dead for me at this point.
>>
>finally had hope in Ubisoft after they buffed Mute and Kapkan
>they proceed to buff Pulse for no fucking reason

I mean it's something people asked for, not gonna argue about that, but why tease it and make it a priority over buffing the other operators? Why does BB still go untouched despite everybody calling him bullshit?
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Really? His friend had a shadshit avatar too.
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>>148192523
>>148193225

that guy who hates ubisoft should be leaking info soon
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>>148191835
ladder op soon
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>>148193445
>Shadman
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>>148193445
>>148194014
mother fuckin' shadman, goddamn
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>>148194131
>
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>>148194014
>>148194231
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anyone wanna play? im broze 4
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>>148194248
>SHADMAN
>>
Explain to me why operators can hear Pulse's detector?
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>>148194014
>>148194231
>>148194623
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>>148194758
Because he has a legal wallhack?
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>>148195072
you gay,, son?
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>>148195072
rude
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>>148045076
>new expansion released
>Japanese SAT operators
>defense operator's special equipment is a katana
>can cut through reinforced walls, riot shields, etc
>offensive operator
>mother
>fucking
>Kunai
This would be absolutely dumb as fuck, but watch Ubisoft actually do it.
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>>148195570
>garden trowel
I don't get it. What's significant about this?
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>>148195570
see the thing about any kind of thrown weapon or device that is aimed at an enemy is why wouldn't you just shoot them instead?
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>tfw I'm a french operator fagget
>irl I'm actually french

Should I just surrender myself to death now?
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>>148195761
>kunai hit targets and then explode a few seconds later
Or some dumb shit like that idk. Provide a reason to throw one.
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>playing on plane
>glaz, obviously
>other team tries last spawn peak I rekt them with last time
>doc goes for the peak, on the front end basement door, opposite side of main door
>we spawned front by main stairs
>break open door behind him with ots
>he's watching ladder
>back up past the wing, looking in the door behind him
>see two pixels of his head, name pops up
>shoot, headshot
>3 seconds later he leaves.
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>>148195943
>noob tubes in siege

no thanks kid
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>>148195570
People thought Frost was going to have throwing knives or shit like that with the leak and previews of her portrait.
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>>148196094
I'd love to have an lvg in siege, bouncy grenade the fuck out of people.
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>>148196209
Why the fuck would anyone want throwing knives? It's fucking childish "ninja" shit that has no place in Siege.

They need to focus more on technology related for the Japanese ops instead of fucking ninja Hollywood bullshit.
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JUST GIVE TACHANKA A BLACKBEARD STYLED SHIELD FOR HIS TURRET ALREADY HOLY SHIT

Ubisoft just fucking do it. Make Spetznas Great Again.
>>
tfw no Jew operator with white phosphate mortar.
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>>148196853
That's what I'm getting at. Ubi isn't as dumb as people think they are. Nobody's saying Ubi is making ninja shit for the Japanese operators.
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I love Frost and she loves ME
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>>148195896
You play underrated operators, cool one!
>>
When will attackers get a UAV drone?
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>>148197442
"The games were never supposed to allow anyone to play as a terrorist"

t. Clancy
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>>148198518
>Rook
>Twitch
>underrated

what.
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>playing border
>peaking window as BB
>guy peaks at me from straight in front of me, 5 feet away
>we're both standing up
>first shot headshot by the other guy on me
BB isn't overpowered, shit like this happens all the time. I do wish he was balanced in a less frustrating way though
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>>148197442
>>148198585
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9qKczIgTVUc
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>>148198772
where is my suicide bomber operator?
>>
5237 more Renown till I get enough Renown to pay for the upcoming dlc operators. It is 25k each right?
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>>148198724
>Literaly won a firefight because the opponent went for a headshot instead of a body shot
>BB isn't overpowered

He literaly requires you to play like a noob against him going for body shots only
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New thread
>>148199086
>>148199086
>>148199086
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>>148198843
>Attackers enter the house
>one defender starts jumping around doing brazilian ju jitsu
>one defender starts howling and screaming like an orangutan
>one defender starts spinning a quarter staff around all fancy like, making whoosh noises as he goes
>one defender takes the hostage as a shield after throwing punji spike mats behind every sofa
>one defender rips his tactical vest open to reveal his secondary suicide vest and starts screaming
>mfw
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>>148199072
he's not overpowered because his shield is inconsistent in blocking shots
most of the time that I get killed as blackbeard or kill blackbeard it's that the shield decided to not work for a quick sec
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>>148199295
That's the broken ass netcode anon.
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