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>>147767898

>DEMON'S SOULS
http://pastebin.com/RjpF5s7a

>DARK SOULS
http://pastebin.com/eNY3su63
>DSCM - manually connect to specific players
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cvII-WJWo5s

>DARK SOULS 2
http://pastebin.com/CAx8Yc8v

>DARK SOULS 3
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1u8Mak1goSv4g73g16XsWV4sJelDQUatWkP2kcO6GVAA/pub
>How to get autosummon covenants to work on PC:
https://steamcommunity.com/app/374320/discussions/0/357286119111456394/

>KING'S FIELD
http://pastebin.com/G8zw0sc3

>Character Planner
https://www.mugenmonkey.com/

>/dsg/ Player List
http://pastebin.com/9hG50KHX
>/dsg/ Steam Group
http://steamcommunity.com/groups/DarkSoulsGeneral
>Draw
http://doodleordie.com/r/darksouls
http://imgur.com/a/XhBxC (DeS)
http://collageanon.imgur.com/
http://flockmod.com/dsg
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do your part
dont repond to tripfags
thank you
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hello asshole snake man
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Can you guys post your best dark souls 3 waifu creation?

I need to see what exactly is possible since all my shit looks terribad
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How would a raw Corvian greatknife buffed with DMB(60fth) preform in pvp?
Also, would 20 END + a RoF+2 be enough stamina to use a corvian greatknife effectively?
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>>147808724
I meant shield hand

And you know what, it was right fuck you.

>>147808409
Hey honey bunch
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>>147807129
>dropped you to 50% life in one death
Yeah, but everybody used the Cling Ring so it was just 75%. In that regard Dark Souls 3 is harder.

>continued to make the game harder each time you died
Only in body form did it affect the world tendency and the game became easier per each boss you killed.

>Plus, it had complex systems like character and world tendency
World Tendency didn't work properly if you were online, character tendency is interesting but not really a fully realized game mechanic.
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Good day, fellow Souls fans!

I've heard some wonderful things about the netizens here from your friendly subreddit, r/darksouls3, and I wanted to ask, if some would be willing to answer, if I can guarantee Greirat's safety (which is my favorite Souls NPC btw) if I saved our friendly community favorite onion knight in the Cathedral of the Deep, but haven't met him in Irithyll yet?

Cheers!
Praise the Sun! \(^-^)/
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>>147808809
o-ok bye

>>147808859
bunch of honey?
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>>147808870
I don't care if you're being ironic just fuck off alright
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is a faith/miracle build possible at SL80 without being very very squishy?
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FC?
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>>147808870
>Day
m8 its fukin 6AM rn
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>>147808854
60faith dmb is only 230 damage compared to 50 fai dmb in ds1 which was 474
try and go for more than 2 attacks and you will get parried
also no quickstep
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>>147808870
Yes so long as you haven't lit the bonfire in irithil dungeon You nigger
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>>147808914
It's a pet name since at least the sixties

You use it for people you think are your pets
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>>147808860
>Yeah, but everybody used the Cling Ring so it was just 75%. In that regard Dark Souls 3 is harder.

False.

>Only in body form did it affect the world tendency and the game became easier per each boss you killed.
No shit, Sherlock.

>World Tendency didn't work properly if you were online, character tendency is interesting but not really a fully realized game mechanic.
Yes, it did, dumbass. Being online didn't effect your tendency unless you went back to the Nexus. Because of that they could have world tendency events. Where do you think /dsg/ got the concept of events from?
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>>147808987
It's almost like it's a different time of day depending on where you're posting from!
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>>147808942
>>147808987

Alas, not everybody is as friendly as r/darksouls3 has said. Oh well... ('A')

>>147809064
Many thanks friend. (spoiler)Although, I could do well without calling me the "N" word, friend, as some might deem that quite offensive(/spoiler) :D
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>>147809089
>Being online didn't effect your tendency unless you went back to the Nexus.

>just do all 3 levels back to back without visiting the nexus !
>world tendency works fine!
lmao
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>>147809189
Sorry. I have the grumpity grumps this morn.
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>>147809189
We get it just stop you faggot.
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what is the name of the semen demon in the OP
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>>147808680
>an actual dsg thread
thank the gods

>>147808987
>the world is flat
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>>147809242
>>just do all 3 levels back to back without visiting the nexus !
Why the hell would you not? Do you not know how to take the world all the way to pure back and back to pure white in one play through with only one boss alive? KEK
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PSA to all you.

Some knob is mad invading catacombs and warping about and one-shotting folks. Also has some way of activating the boss, be warned, play smart, play safe.

Their name is Mad Vlad.
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>>147808815
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>>147809338
Block him on steam, you baka
share his profile too
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>>147808815
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>>147809242
don't do it man, not worth it
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>>147809535
>blocking on steam
That only prevents him from adding you, baka
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>>147809306
It is flat though. You can't disprove it.
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>listening to the unreleased tracks found in game files
>almost all of them sound like some final boss material
What fucking bosses they can even suit? Some of the tracks are obviously angel-themed.
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I haven't play Dark Souls 3 since the 1.03.1 patche.
What are the main changment since ?
Are sorcery / miracle viable ? The weapons are more balenced (like, no more Dark Sword shit)
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>>147809653
GIANT BAT DEMON
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>>147809606
really? it worked on ds2
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>>147809694
Dark Sword got nerfed

9 A R
A R
R
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>>147809731
no it didn't, i remember trying to do that like an idiot and it didn't work
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>>147809338
gankers pay the price :)
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>>147809897
>Gankers
Admittedly, we were two, but we weren't jumpin' folks together, and he had already killed us without hacks a couple of times.
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>>147808815
Making females is such a fucking hassle with DS. You're better off making grumpy ragged old men.
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I want a souls gf...

jk, i just want a FC
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>>147809694
Pyromancers got ridiculous buffs
Estoc is hit hard, wp got a range reduction, dark sword was never dangerous to begin with, carthus curved and glaives are top tiers
Sorcerers got cast speed buffs but candlestick nerf, miracles can nuke your health but still lack reliable fast offensive abilities
Overall the balance is much better than it was a few months ago.
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>>147809653
>angel-themed
That's how the abyss sounds.
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>>147810040
>tfw played DaS3 from the start with my gf watching and cheering me up
Now she's playing Dark Souls 1
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>>147809089
>>Only in body form did it affect the world tendency and the game became easier per each boss you killed.
>No shit, Sherlock.

The game adjusts it's difficulty if you kill bosses / black phantoms and move toward white. In White World enemies drop more healing grasses THAN NORMAL and are also easier.

None of the other games do that.

>>147809329
That means that you're deliberately manipulating the World Tendency, i.e you're making the world harder because you know you're manipulating it. It counts as much towards the difficulty as Dark Souls 2 Bonfire Ascetics and CoC do, because you have to be intentionally manipulating the World Tendency to get consistent Black Tendency or be playing the game completely blind and playing the same world over and over by using Ephemeral Eye stones and not going back to the Nexus at all.

Demon's Souls can get really hard in pure black, but unless you're consciously manipulating the world tendency, you're not going to reach it. Which is a shame, because modeling the NG+ along the model of Demon's Souls PBWT would be great.
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>>147810223
Angels are just abyssal abominations with feathers covering their black goo anyway.
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>>147810281
FILTHY BACKSTABBER
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Do I need 60 in the relevant stat to make buffs worth the investment?
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>>147810281
>tfw the girl i used to play DS1 and 3 with started playing stupid league, rip the only girl i've ever talked to
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>>147810351
Buffs are never worth it.
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>>147810290
I never said anything about the difficulty, kiddo.
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>>147810281
This warms my heart.
Don't break up over something stupid.
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>>147810408

Kek another orbiter bites the dust
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>>147810328
Don't worry, you'll find a souls gf :3
JUST
BE
URSELF
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>mfw using painting guardian curved sword
I actually killed people with the WA but I get outranged by literally every weapon in game
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>>147809653

No they don't

Most are similar to dancer's theme
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>>147810465
Idk, my life might get worse, it's probably better if i keep playing on my own honestly
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>blue sentinel auto summon message right as I teleport
JUST
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anyone tried a 27str 40/40 pyro?

lorian's has 750AR when you buff it, the buff lasts longer now and is activated by the stomp, rather than stomp + followup like profained
it also has profained's moveset and not the shitty greatsword moveset
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>>147810040
i want a souls fc to bully me
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>the undead simply respawn when killed
>they only stop when they lose their drive to keep going and go hollow
>the chosen undead's strength is that they just keep going
>unless you stop playing
>then you go hollow
Holy shit.
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>>147810621
I know a guy.
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>>147810596
>try to warp to firelink
>warp starts
>warp gets blocked by invader

I didn't even think it was possible
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>>147810420
>I never said anything about the difficulty, kiddo.

>>147807129
>DeS, dropped you to 50% life in one death and continued to make the game harder each time you died. Plus, it had complex systems like character and world tendency

The subject clearly was about difficulty.
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>>147810667
>loading level
>"dat boi has invaded your load screen"
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>>147809086
i am far too knightly for this
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>>147810916
after i pressed A to start the travel, the animation started but it suddendly blocked, of course i wasn't in the loading screen yet
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>>147810596
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>>147810927
Don't worry; I'm not honey bunch
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>>147810715
Different discussions. I should have been clearer.

This:
>Why the hell would you not? Do you not know how to take the world all the way to pure back and back to pure white in one play through with only one boss alive? KEK

had nothing to do with difficulty. The point of it is that it lets you get every PBWT and then every PWWT event and item in a single playthrough.
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>>147809971
doesn't look very good
you get like 1 point of AR per faith or int
way to stat ring dependant, meaning no pyro damage boost rings

https://mugenmonkey.com/darksouls3/53809
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>>147810971
I was just trying to joke to make it seem like there would be a system in place where you get invaded during load times.
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>>147811226
Oh yeah sorry, I'm just retarded
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>>147810596
>fully explored ancient wyvern area
>killed it while having like 4 flasks left
>teleported to the next area
>instantly invaded, can't use bonfire to replenish flasks
>dragon summoner summons Havel
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HALT!
HUMAN
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>>147811295

Shit always happens to me as well

Same when I go from dancer to lothric. Always a fucking invader guaranteed

By now I've wised up and perfected the run though. So even if I'm invaded I just run and tag the bonfire then go to nameless and have the invader chase me all he wants

Course I teleport out of nameless back to the bonfire with muh Coiled Sword Fragment
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best weapon for pure dex playthrough in das1?

using estoc right now

was thinking of using ricards when i get it
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>>147811692
great scythe
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>>147811692
Ricards is fun, but it isn't very useful.
Great Scythe or Balder Side Sword for pure DEX.
Or Iaito.
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>>147811692
scythe or great scythe for pve

balder or chaos blade for pvp
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Cute
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>tfw have had more fun playing Dragon's Dogma lately than I have during any of the three playthroughs I had done of Dark Souls III
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>>147812225

Same way I feel about the souls +bb

DD overall is just superior
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>>147812225
If you're not playing sorcerer, enjoy the endgame being everythings immune to normal damage, farm a specific boss for a holy weapon or get the fuck out, mate.

The game up to that is great though.
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>>147812323
>playing sorcerer on my first character
Naw son. Besides, I've always got one sorcerer in my party to dish out spells and give my weapons fire / frost / light, etc.
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>>147812323
>If you're not playing sorcerer, enjoy the endgame being everythings immune to normal damage
nah, everything melts to a lv2 bbl weapon or gold rarified lv1 weapon
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>>147812417
Well, enjoy sitting about waiting on them to kill the enemy thats immune to anything EXCEPT holy damage, with only very slight damage taken from any element, and then add that enemy and 3 others like it to every zone in Bitterblack.

Also Assassin is objectively the most fun class.
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>>147812501
You fought the fucking living armor? Fuck those niggers. Everything else, yeah you'll fuck em, but there's those damn armors, and a couple of similar niggers.
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what is a good bloodborne cosplay in ds3?
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>>147812510
The armors take any elemental damage, they're just weak to holy.
Plus, if you just get yourself a mage or sorcerer in the party they can buff your weapons and things just become trivial.

I even killed the fuckers in my solo assassin run with elemental daggers.
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>>147812225
Oh is it time for filenames?
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>>147808815
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>>147812675
Takes bloody ages though. I had those fire twin daggers that looked like they belonged on the end of an axepole, and shit did nothin' to them.
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Is there a fix to the missing sky textures in Archdragon Peak?
Really kills the vibe of the area...
I'm validating Steam files, but I dunno if that helps.
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>>147812747

No I had the same glitch where everything was pitch black like in untended graves. Only way is to start a new game.

Glitch is said to happen when you're in archdragon peak and you get summoned as a blue or some shit
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>>147812746
That's exactly the weapon I used.
Took me a good 15 to 20 minutes, but I eventually got past it and killed Daimon in seconds by climbing on his head and gouging the fucker with a sword. Fun times.
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I miss other players actions influncing your world in dark souls 1
>tolls of the bell of awakening can be heard
>extra estus whenever someone kindles
>remnants of curse fallen players
>vagrants

Dark souls 3
>...

What the fuck happened?
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>>147812879

Oh and by new game I meant new game + works

I just went from ng +6 to ng + 7 and the sky was restored
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>>147812915
While I completely agree with you, the bell in Archdragon Peak can actually be heard when other players ring it.
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>>147812614
Leonhart robes plus carla's hat?

Would love to see a DS3 magnificent chester aswell.
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>>147812894
S'what I mean though, if you aren't a fucking Sorcerer you spend years just chipping the shits away. Daimon's first fight is fucking joke, who gives a shit.
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>>147812614
Eileen

>sage hat
>Karla robes
>Farron gauntlets
>Faraam boots
>light xbow, corvian great knife, brigand daggers
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>>147812915
The Great Belfry rings when other players bong it.
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>>147812879
Well, it's not pitch black entirely in the area, just the sky is a black texture.
Validating files and turning off ambient occlusion didn't help so...
I guess I gotta deal with a shitty Archdragon Peak.
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>>147813215

Well I didn't mean the entire area was dark. The sky is black and everything else is there white like a whitish hue. It was raining again in the area before nameless. I went with ng + 7 and it got restored. Only way to do it so far.

I heard it's when you get summoned as a blue from archdragon peak that the glitch can happen but who knows
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>>147812915
I still get extra estus when someone kindles around here

And in my playthrough of DaS1 i did a week ago I got no fucking vagrants anywhere
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>I know! Let's parry the guy swinging a 2 meter slab of iron, that'll learn him!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8PJa0alNn3o
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>>147813356
You can parry Gwyn who swings a 2 meter slab of iron that's ON FIRE and is Jesus combined with Buddha so I don't exactly see your point
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So when is the DLC supposed to come out again? I thought the first is supposed to hit in September but there's no news of it so far.
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>>147813356
>summoned ganks
Oh christ i thought i left that behind in township
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>>147813440
Autumn and early 2017.
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>>147812614
Playing Bloodborne instead
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Has there ever been a feature From implemented more poorly than Frost?
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>>147811070
Alright, sorry for misunderstanding.

>>147812915
Yeah, I was hoping for something like players connected to you dying awaking stronger enemies in your area. Actually, I think that it would've worked better for the Catacombs area for players connected to you dying reviving some special skelebongs.
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>>147813563
Gravelords
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>>147813563
Bed of Chaos.
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>>147813563
Soul memory.
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>>147813563
Pre-DaS3 poise.
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>>147813563
DS2 Durability.
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>>147813563
DaS3 poise.
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hi guys

do i need to level Luck if i want to make a epic bleed meme build
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>>147813810
Go fuck yourself.
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>>147813563
Pretty much an entire DS2 is a clusterfuck of way more horrible design decisions.
Reminder that ds2 bleed is pretty much an even weaker frost.

Also DS1 poise and miss animations on half of weapon classes.
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Anyone on xbox wanna help me with early dancer?

Swordmaster bug got patched so now it's even harder to avoid the linear boss order

Pass is dsg
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Is the Perseverance skill even useful? I feel like anyone who knows their shit will know to roll when the animation starts and when their weapon bounces off.
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>>147813810
You level luck because at 40/40/40 str/dex/luck weapons with a hollow gem do more damage than refined weapons, and having hollow mainhand and offhand puts you to 40 from 30 base

Carthus rouge on a natural bleed weapon is plenty as is, luck scaling is just gravy
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>>147813986
Perseverance is extremely useful because it also offers damage reduction on top of some degree of deflection. The Greathammer version is balls, though, it does a stomp, but not a damaging one like Morne's Rage or Molten Perseverance.
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Is this a good sl80 havel build?
https://mugenmonkey.com/darksouls3/53823
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>>147813986
no
it only serves to defeat 1h estoc spammers
it's a free parry for people paying attention
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>>147813946
You know you can use the Dark Hand to decimate Dancer, right?
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>>147813563
How to make frost better:

- Give us some sort of frost weapon buff
- Increase build-up speed
- Make people fat-roll for like 10-15 seconds when frostbitten
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>>147814247
By itself frost is already good. It slows down stamina regen, it gives substantial defence debuff, it nerfs Estus. Its main problem is that it's nearly impossible to inflict as the only weapons with frostbite damage are shit.
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I'm not learning much from Pontiff randoms anymore, I need to figure out how to make this build works against good players.
Would anyone on PC be up for some duels?
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>>147814206
Yoel's already dead since I went and killed abyss watchers after getting annoyed with wiping vs her

Dark hand just got buffed though, apparently it's really good now?
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>>147814371
I can help, where do I place my sign?
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>>147814462
Lets use dsg as a password, just put your sign in the upper platform.
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>>147814431
It's really good for trivializing early game.
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>>147814130
Is Wolnir's Holy Sword's weapon art similar to Morne that it grants poise and an AoE attack?
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>>147814637
Yes.
But it's 3 times as slow, that's the main problem.
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>>147814637
hell no
no poise, no damage absorption, nothing
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>>147810620
No but I get similar AR with a quality build. I've found it falls of in PVE against heavily armored mobs, but against 90% you're good.

Plus fire clutch ring is probably worth it with all that base fire damage at 40/40.

You'll want a faster weapon for PVP though.
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>>147808815
dont know if this looks good
im still trying
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>>147814889
>filename
I think you know.
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Which is/was more cancerous:
-Farming Silver Knights for Proofs of Concord, or
-Farming Loyce Knights for Loyce Souls
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>>147815127
Loyce Souls by far. Burnt Loyced Knights are fucking cunts.
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>>147815127
drop rate was significantly higher on loyce souls & you got an infinite stream of them
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>>147815127
Loyce definitly, Silvers just take long but dont give much trouble; Loyce knights was just getting ganked and took so goddamn long per run
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>>147815045
last time i posted that i got that reply and i thought it was funny
i think it looks decent at most

>>147815127
i farmed the 50 souls in like 5-6 hours
i still dont have DMB in over 20 hrs of farming
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>>147815292
But you needed a total of 50 for all rewards, and the high drop rate was when you got summoned only.
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>>147814564
for how long are we doing this?
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>>147815220
>>147815343
what?
you guys didnt have the 3 silver loyce knights helping you?
those guys can solo the whole thing, you can stand around while they do so
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>>147809493
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>2hand STR multiplier no longer applied to dual wield weapons
R-REEEEEEeeee...
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>>147815376
Lets call it a day.
Thank you very much, turns out rolling chains into an estoc poke.
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>>147815542
I had to go anyways. That last input miss was bullshit, gg
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>>147815375
>you get to co-op on a fun boss while farming with a self-imposed HP penalty from avarice
>you can also choose to just farm the 3 respawning knights
vs
>you farm the same two silver knights forever
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>>147815530
it makes no sense lmao
get fucked 2kat fags
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>>147815127
They are both equally terrible. Both took around a day for me.
Darkmoon, however, gets worse if you get summoned, the host starts acting cocky and rushes into a crowd of enemies like an idiot because that's where the invader is (instead of waiting, pulling or smth) assuming that he cannot get killed in two seconds.
Or he dies when I spawn :^(
Those two times I got summoned while farming made it all the more enraging to me.
Still am in Darkmoon even though I don't need it anymore. Sometimes I forget that covenant exists.
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>>147815530
rip drang hammers
we wouldn't want memeblades to have an actual competitor
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>>147815481
I only realized the whole soul thing after beating ivory, didnt want to go to NG+2 just for soul farming
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>>147815652
looks like you made a mistake
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>>147815481
those 3 silver knights are fucking retards, what are you even talking about?
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>>147813563
DS2 Bleed
DS2 Soul Memory

Character Tendency
World Tendency

Gravelording
Darkmoon covenant in DS1

>>147813789
>DS2 Durability.
It was literally perfect.
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>>147815717
any ai in ds2 is fucking retarded, whats your point?
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FC when
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>>147815814
Most AI in Dark Souls is retarded.
Moving backwards while shooting CSS at Nameless King and he barely did anything about it.
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>>147815765
>DS2 Durability
>It was literally perfect.
Don't you EVER say that to me again.
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>>147810067
Dark sorceries didn't get cast speed buff. They are still slow as shit and the easiest thing to evade.
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>>147813356
To be fair you could do it in every game before this one so if you didn't know before going into 3 you'll be fucked the first time you go into pvp.
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>>147815946
>Don't you EVER say that to me again.
But it was good. It was a good compromise between having the durability matter and Dark Souls 1 / Demon's Souls system of it being a huge bother to repair shit constantly.
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>>147813563
Sniper crossbow's lack of aiming despite having a scope.
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>>147815949
>Dark sorceries didn't get cast speed buff
Yes they did. Both great deep souls and edge got cast speed increase. Their problem is a projectile speed and lack of hyperarmor on dark edge.
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>>147815968
ds2 had unparriables i think
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The awful cast speed of dark edge and the shitty tracking speed of affinity and great deep soul make me so fucking mad. Can't even wear down people's stamina as they only need to roll once.
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>>147816051
Deep Soul travels faster than it used to, same for Gnaw.
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>>147816051
Dark edge has the shittiest casting speed out of all spells in the game. Even with hyperarmor, they can still r1 you and roll away.

Tried with sage ring +2 and maxxed out dexterity and timed it correctly. Still ponderously slow.
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>>147816201
>shittiest casting speed out of all spells in the game
That's CSS, HCSM, gnaw and lifehunt scythe.
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>>147811295
>Dragonkin Mausolem
>laggiest area i have, fortunately it's short so i breeze through it
>invasion everytime i pass through it i get invaded
it's kinda my fault for shitty-pc, but giving out free wins is still not fun
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>>147815946
>>147815998
At least in Dark Souls 2 you can break someone's equipment, which is always very fun to do. And in that game you actually have to worry about durability, forcing you to either have a backup-weapon, repair-powder or run through the level. I would prefer this, if they increased durability just a little bit so it isn't completely ridiculous.
I hate how it is a useless stat in this game. In Dark Souls 2 you could even destroy rings, which can be a good choice if your enemy kinda needs the Third Dragon Ring.
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>>147816156
Not fast enough then. Gnaw has better tracking but does negative damage.

Also tried catching people with it when they roll onto me but it just flies straight above them.
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>>147816119
Dark edge needs HA or an staff with HA. affinity needs to last longer, 2 rolls and they fade out.
great deep soul is fine in this patch.
>wear down people's stamina
Hexes really needs something that compensates their shit dmg
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>Wolnir just says fuck it and summons 3 invincible carthus knights at the end of the fight
FUCK THIS GIANT NIGGER'S ASSHOLE.
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>>147816301
Gnaw casts about as fast I think but also fulfills a different purpose.

Lifehunt scythe shouldn't even be in the game desu. Me and a friend tested it at 60/60 against a naked opponent with dark clutch and both miracle rings and it did around 350 dmg. Though you can cast it with a talisman that has hyperarmor to finish off a charging opponent. Makes the lifesteal pointless in that scenario though.
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Hey /dsg/, general question for y'all

How do you come up with a build for new characters? I've always played relatively similar characters in every Souls game and I wanna diversify a li'l bit. What factors do you take into account when making a new build?
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>>147813356
Got invaded at old kings antechamber by definition guide kid

>dork sword
>full FK
>grass crest

Tried to parry a two handed LKGS. I'll give you one guess how that ended
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>>147816434
>great deep soul is fine in this patch

Below average damage and very slow tracking, can't even throw it in someone's face when they roll towards you as it flies above them.

No reason to use it even to set up a third spell as it's stamina consumption is too big for it to be safe.
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>>147816584
I usually find the most trendy meme off of Facebook and base it around that. Its good to make other people Laugh Out Loud
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>>147816717
She looks like a man.
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>>147816808
she looks refined
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>>147816717
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>>147816840
F E M I N I N E
E
R
T
I
L
E
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>>147816840
Is that Ellen Page?
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>>147816808
>not wanting to smash that royal noble pussy
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>>147816584
I play something that is extremely stupid or """"""""""creative"""""""""". Most of the time I want to try out things I haven't seen yet and a lot of times I see people being unable to deal with this sheer stupidity.
Last thing I did was a Raime-Cosplay wuth FUGS offhand and a heavy broadsword on main, using Outrider-Helmet/Chest + Lorian's Leggings.
My most stupid build was using two Smough's Hammers and I ended up killing a lot of people for some reason.

Just exploring all the possibilities for fun.
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Anyone on xbox want to take turns muling? Wanna move some duplicate items to my other character
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Can someone explain why katanas and curved swords are stronger than axes and hammers
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>>147816840
>>147816906
isnt that a dude?
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>>147817038
No baka desu honey
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>>147817137
is this a dank new meme?
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>>147816584
Whether or not I'll lose and get increasingly salty every time I try and play it, desu

Cool and unique weapons are fun until you just get demolished because the farron UGS has barely more AR than a longsword and is parryable on every attack
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>>147816584
I play other games. I tried to do an Iron Knuckle cosplay in DS2 but the BKGA proved to be too hard to use, it might be feasible in this game, I just wish the Dragonrider armor was still around.
I'm doing a Bazuso character later, I already know what I need.
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>>147817038
>>147817137
Lol the negro that always posts it says it's his husbando
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>tfw skipped kaathe's dialogue and can't go back

ugh
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>>147816584
i build around things i think look cool
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>>147817262
? can't listen it you mean? it's on youtube. can't warp? use a homeward or place the lordvessel
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>>147817229
making a believable trap is as simple as making a decent female character, saving the sliders and then copying them to a male character, the only thing that's different between male and female is the body type and the presets
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>>147816584
I just think up a concept for a character or a silly thing I want to do, and build around that.
I've got:
>Arabic-ish character with flowing clothes, curved swords and general dexy stat weighting
>Skinny little heretic swamp witch pyromancer with fairly standard pyro loadout, but runs around invading as a grape trying to be friendly... until someone does something aggressive, then it's BURNINATING ALL THE THINGS
>Bare-knuckle boxer. No weapons. Fists only. Final destination. pls help it is horrible
>Veteran Lothric knight who died in the line of duty and awoke to find it had all gone to shit and people keep telling him to link the fire and his princes are shirking their duties and SOMEBODY HAS TO SET THINGS RIGHT DAMNIT
>Pacifist cleric. No weapons. Hides behind a shield and casts healing miracles. Depends on the kindness of phantoms to get anything done.
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>>147808815
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>>147816584
1. check for underused/fun spell/weapon
2. make rough build for different metas
3. check range of spell/weapon to use as support
4. Verify in what meta the build is more viable
5. Play

>>147816691
I don't have my Int very high lvl up, but test this:
toxic mist + affinity backstep
Crystal hail + deep soul
Warmth + dark edge

how much end do you got and what rings?
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>>147817389
was spamming circle and answered no to him. now he won't talk to me and i have to start another new game
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>>147817430
>Skinny little heretic swamp witch pyromancer with fairly standard pyro loadout, but runs around invading as a grape trying to be friendly... until someone does something aggressive, then it's BURNINATING ALL THE THINGS
yuria then?
>>147817516
quit and reload and talk to him again. i think that if you didn't aggro him or place the lordvessel without him, you should be good
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>enemy starts spamming 1hr1 with a straight sword
>roll backwards from the first swing
>third 1hr1 hits you no matter where you are even through a double roll
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>>147817597
>yuria then?
Basically. Even wears her set.
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I need to kill the hidden pilgrim for Anri's storyline even if I killed Yuria, right?
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>>147817605
Straight sword R1 spam seems to constantly unintentionally roll punish, it's awful.
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>>147817456
20 endurance, 45/45 int/fai

Using sage ring +2, bellowing dragoncrest, young dragon, witch's ring

Dark clutch doesn't seem to work in PVP, ring of favor +2 gives only enough stamina for one extra spell and still goes into negative so I'd rather take the extra damage.

Crystal Hail does 200 damage at 45 int with both sorcery rings.

What I run is affinity, great deep soul, dark edge, great chaos fireball, black flame. Only use I have for dark edge is to set up a black flame if they roll onto me or to punish chuggers. Sometimes hit naive players who are behind me if latency allows the hitbox there to work.
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>>147817694
Yes. If you let the pilgrim live, Anri gets "married" to someone else and you'll find his/her corpse in Gwyndolin's room with the marriage sword through his/her face.
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>>147812614
>Hood of Prayer
>Leonhard's Armor
>Mirrah Gloves
>Undead Legion Leggings
>Off-hand Torch/Crossbow
>Lothric Knight's Sword + Lothric Knight's Greatsword

You are now a Tomb Prospector.
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>>147817018
Because axes and hammers are actually balanced.

But forreal axes AR isn't bad. They just have shorter range and swing speed that's reasonable AKA not as good as longswords
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>>147817445
Does your character, like, have vitiligo or some shit?
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>>147818146
I'm about to start a refined winged twin axe run. What am I in for?
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>>147818645
Easy-mode, essentially. They're probably one of the best PvE weapons in the game.
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>>147812691
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>>147816717
ExeCUTEoner Miralda, Maiden in Black, Shanalotte, Firekeeper and Karla.
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>>147819219
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>>147817769
i'd use a chlora. ring and lose dark edge. even then, you're consuming alot of stamina.
(assuming you're using the izalith staff) have you tried the crystal chime and check if the dmg difference?
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>>147819680
>have you tried the crystal chime

Yea. More than 100 lower damage than izalith unbuffed. Both at +5.

>chlora. ring
For 8% faster stamina regeneration? lol

>even then, you're consuming alot of stamina

The only thing hexer got going is the variety of spells you can use with dark + pyromancy. It's what makes the bulld fun first and foremost.
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>>147812691
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post scenery
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>Ds3 has been out for months
>From hasn't mentioned dlc once since release
Either this is going to be mind blowing stuff or From is afraid it won't be up to par.
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>>147817445
thats now how scars work, anon
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>>147820058
It makes more sense when you think of it as semen.
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Any weapons that can nuke healthbars like Warden's used to be able to?
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>>147819974
It's the same as with BB, they weren't busy with DLC prior to the release unlike DS2.
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>>147820305
CE is pretty good.
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>>147819974
Miyazaki said he doesn't want to "ruin the surprise". Considering how careful they were with the TOH Bloodborne DLC I wouldn't be surprised. He also said they are still working on it, same thing happened for Old Hunters.
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>>147820394
I hope they can pull off another Ludwig.
Holy shit that second phase was unexpected.
>>
Guys I have an idea
Guys
Listen
What if
Come on
Guys

Gandalf the Unkindked.
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>>147819974
He said in that recent interview that it will include a new area and a new storyline.

So basically no information, other than they're working on it.
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>>147820797
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Are bleed weapons only viable on luck builds or could I proc bleed with a warden twinblade on a 40/40 quality with some carthus rouge?
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>>147816840
Standart character with a few sliders moved? Woah man, you've done a great job there. Keep it up. (don't)
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>>147820305
The paired katanas
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>>147820956
post yours, faggo
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>>147819974
There will be two, the first is coming in fall and it'll bring a different feeling than the base game.
You wouldn't want to spoil the surprise.
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>>147820946
Not necessarily, Luck just compliments with it the same way Dex complimented both Poison and Bleed in DS2.
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>>147820946
You can easily on a 40/40. It's just easier on a luck build.
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>tfw no storm ruler FFAs
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>Four-pronged Plow
>has 5 prongs

Fucking A team fucks up again!
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>>147808870
>>147809189
Keep going. This is funny.
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Guys, what's the edgiest covenant on DS1?
And what's the most aggressive covenant (able to invade more)?
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>>147819875
still I'd main crystal chime for sorcery and use izalith to set affinity and great deep soul. but I doubt you wanna use normal sorcery.
are you using any weap. ?

>For 8% faster stamina regeneration? lol
>stamina for one extra spell and still goes into negative
it's 17% and missing a spell whilst in negative stamina is a guaranteed 2 hit.
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When is the best time to do the ds2 dlc? I have SotFS
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>>147821573
darkmoons are the edgiest
darkwraiths for invasions
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>>147821573
dickwraiths no contest
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>>147821701
Whenever you want to, as long as you're not shit. I tackled it at level 52.
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>>147819506
So That's what they're chanting, never been able to listen to it over my frantic slashing.

Nice fix
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>>147821816
EH-HEEEEEE
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>>147821670
I dunno man. That effectively removes 2 damage rings on top of crystal chime. My damage output isn't that good on my build either, this will just destroy them.

And yeah, wanna use mostly dark sorcery + pyromancy.
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"Press A to touch fluffy tail"
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>>147821701
>When is the best time to do the ds2 dlc? I have SotFS
It's meant for higher levels. I'd do it post-game (meaning after beating the final boss) since you aren't automatically booted to the NG+. Just don't overlevel and it'll be pretty good.

>>147821573
>Guys, what's the edgiest covenant on DS1?
Darkwraiths
>And what's the most aggressive covenant (able to invade more)?
DarkWraiths / Forest Hunters.
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>>147821753
I was talking about any sort of effect on the main story. If i do them just before facing the final boss. I won't miss anything as if i did them as soon as they are available.
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>>147822317
Nah, they won't. They're usually after important areas anyway, so you won't miss that much. Just remember to talk to shalquoir and vendrick.
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did the sacred flame bug with the white hair talisman ever get fixed
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>>147821907
well, the only thing I can say is repeat the build for a lower meta. other than that git lucky scrub

>>147822425
yup, 2 patches ago
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>>147821456
one of them is broken
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>>147822691
>repeat the build for a lower meta

Need darkmoon ring for that.
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>>147823019
so, at least 8 summons at lvl 20-30. 6h in a weekend should do it.

>>147820946
2kat while it isn't nerfed and CCS.
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>>147822140
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>leddit found out how godly the defense/vitality stacking is in SL120 range
rip
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>>147819909
>we can't host FCs there
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>>147823906
we can with CE just like we did airborne FC in DS1
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>>147823890
post build
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>>147823890
>sub-60 where the real multiplayer is remains unaffected

Have fun with duels.
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>>147824167
>sub-60
>"real multiplayer"
>just a diceroll of either getting a gank squad or playing against incompetent retards
yea sure is "real"
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>>147824167
>sub-60
>real
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I want to do a dex/int build for mostly magic weapon buffs and a bit of sorcery. Are warden twinblades good dex weapons with cmw? I assume sellswords are good but id like some variety
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>>147823890
>it's just a video of a retard mashing R1 against other retards and commenting on how little damage he's taking against shit builds while wearing lloyds shield ring and steel protection+2 with 31 vitality

wowowow
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>>147824007
The Abyss FC was cool.
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>>147824426
post video
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>>147824669
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zf6t8kb85Qw
It's not worth your time, also terrible music warning.
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>>147824724

It's a card captor pvp vid in disguise
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>>147824358
>dex/int
Absolute garbage.

>quality/int
Is where it's at.
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>>147824358
They're identical, warden's loses some damage for bleed so go with sellswords.
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>>147824724
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>>147825101
>quality/int
sounds like shit
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How do bleed builds work? Do you invest in luck?
>>
Is there any interest in a PS4 fight club?
>>
Does PvP watchdog detect giving myself max souls to make a new character or changing the quantity of titanite after I obtain them?
Really don't feel like farming for souls/chunks all over again for a new build.
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Anyone have any experience with the Crescent Axe? I want to use it for lower level pvp but have no idea what to infuse it with. It gets A scaling with elemental scaling infusion, but then again refined is probably the best anyway and still be buffed.
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>>147825430
I don't think so, but then you'd be ruining your experience.
Seriously, this game is the only one I would feel bad for cheating (or not grinding, in your case). Every run there's still things the amazes me.
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Aldrich Faithful
>The holy symbol of the Cathedral of the Deep, and crest of those who see beyond fire to the age of deep waters
>Aldrich ruminated on the fading of the fire, it inspired visions of a coming age of the deep sea

Deep Sea Rune
>Great volumes of water serve as a bulwark
guarding sleep, and an augur of the eldritch Truth
>It's mentioned in DaS3 that The Deep was a chill place until monstrosities took up residence in it

What does it meeeeaaaan?
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>>147825329
I'm interested.
>>
>CCS hit for 330+
This fuckin game
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ls there much of a difference between 40 faith and 60 faith?
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>>147825637
About 20.
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>>147825637
The scalling gets worse after 40, but yes I think there's a significant difference.
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Holy shit hot damn!

SoC just did a vertical Soul Greatsword on me. I was so shocked, I stood still and ate his next normal horizontal Soul Greatsword.

How many more moves does this fucker have?
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>>147825430
I don't think so, it only goes after the blatant cheating shit, higher stats than SL indicates etc.
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>>147825604
shut up
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>>147825815
Do you think l should go 40str/40dex/40 faith or 30str/30dex/60faith?
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>>147824948
Totally. In any case I'll try it later to see if it's really worth it, I really doubt it though.
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>>147825595
>>147825831
I've run into a guy using infinite HP and watchdog didn't even say anything about it.
I'd rather skip grinding for items/souls than have no fear of dying at all (besides gravity/out of bounds)
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>>147825604
The Deep Sea is the Lake that hosts all the Archtrees holding different worlds.
When you went down to pacify the Old One, that the first time you were in Ash Lake.
Ash Lake is a metaphysical place, the Age of Deep is coming because the world on top of this Archtree is coming to an end.
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>>147825970
isn't the ring of steel protection utter garbage?
i heard the damage reduction is far lower then what it says
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>>147825970
Is there anyone on /dsg/ that doesn't secretly use a 142 build?

I'm 135
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>>147826112
Ash Lake confirmed for DLC location?
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>>147826152
Yes it is. It's just a test though. No way I'm gonna keep playing on a buff build.
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>>147826152
+2 ring gives 4% less phys damage

the shield ring is far better though you need to pair it with regen
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>>147826219
>>147826235
why would they even put something like this in the game?
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>>147825943
40/40/40 if you want to be a Deus Vult Paladin
30/30/60 if you want to cast down the heretics as a faithful cleric

My personal choice is Paladin. I like to cast miracles while shaking my foe's ground with thunderous weapons.
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>>147826351
Because things are balanced differently in pvp and pve.
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>>147826351
It works for PVE.
>>
fighting club
>>
20SL or 25SL for twink?
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>>147826397
But I thought this was supposed to be a "PVE focused game" with PvP an afterthought?
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>>147826563
Don't ask me about From's motives.
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>>147826397
>>147826420
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>>147825595
I disagree, I'm sure most people wouldn't mind an easier way to get slabs, specially coloured one, and I'm sure everyone who knew how to dupped pure bladestones when they could. That's defending something that adds nothing to the game, like gem farming in 3.
Specially since you can't even trade those.
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>tfw so bored i feel like just doing soemthing extremely top tier like estoc havels or gotthards bloodring
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>>147826112
Look, I get that trying to make all the games take place in the same universe is a really cool idea, but it doesn't work on a fundamental level.
>why isn't there any mention of hollows in demon's souls or bloodborne
>why isn't the old one mentioned in any of the dark souls games
>why is no one from dark souls mentioned in demon's souls or bloodborne? did everyone just forget? that seems like a pretty dumb cop out to make this theory work
>why do magic and miricles play by different rules from demon's souls to dark souls to bloodborne
>why does dying and reviving again play by different rules in each universe
>whhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhyyyyyyyyyyy
I don't know why the very notion of this pisses me off as much as it does but it just does.
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>>147826203
I don't.
>inb4 autism
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>Some guy in last thread says "twinking" in ds3 is stronger due to weapon matchmaking

Typical Ds3 pre-teens
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>>147826203
I'm 130.

It's for a pyro with 40 att.
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>>147826203
i'm 125 because of yoel meta
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>>147826836
Because each world has its set of rules.
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>>147826836
>>147826112

From Software likes to recycle different themes for characters, places and concepts, that's why they're very similar.

For example, Champion Gundyr's mask is clearly the Burger King mask from Demon's Souls and the character's description mentions that he was a king, but it's not *Doran*, merely meant to evoke memories of him and kinda tease you about a possibility.
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>>147827025
ganking is stronger, twinking isn't. Twinking is still very possible though
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when can we go back to ds2
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>>147826563
It's PvE focused. That's why the ring works in PvE, not in PvP.

Anyone who tells you otherwise is delusional.
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>>147826849
autism
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How comparable was Lords of the Fallen to this series?
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>>147827176
worse than dark souls 2
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>>147827176
New low. It's afwul
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>>147826849
Blocking out your character names is the true autism here.
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>>147827323
I know.
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>>147827176
Just look up some gameplay footage, combat looks awful compared to soulsborne games.
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>>147826849
>Having this many builds and still not realizing Ds3 is a shit game after your first playthrough
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I think this guy might literally be retarded. His phantom understood that I was friendly but died to an enemy. I've walked over to him about a dozen times, gestured with "beckon" "and "point forward" a fair amount of times and placed Warmth right on his face. He won't move.

This is the first time I'm actually considering having Friendly Fred murder someone.
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>>147824724
>Video about viability of RoSP+VIT
>Wears shield ring
>does regulars duels where he actively avoids getting hit

RSS research with a friend wouldve actually made me interested; this just feels like clickbait for shitty duel videos
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>>147827504
It's like you realize it's the end of the world and all you have to eat is shit. Would you rather die of starvation in a month or eat shit for 3 months and survive? Living a shitty life is better than not living at all for me.
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>>147825827
are you sure it wasn't just Soul Spear?
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>>147827521
>Doesn't even test it with HA
>"look at the dmg i'm doing"
clearly
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>>147826203
I'm 135 as well
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I wish the GSoJ's stance R1 stab let you shot out a Soul Spear like projectile like Sully does.
It's a cool weapon and I actually want to try to do a STR/INT build now.
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Demon Ruins/Smouldering Lake seems like a perfect spot for a fight club. Nice elevated ledge overlooking a wide open area right outside the first bonfire.

Trouble is I'm on PS4
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do we want pcfc RIGHT NOW?!
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>>147827625
What an absolutely terrible and false analogy

Ds1 is still nonstop invasions and pvp in every area
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>>147827716
Nope, same animation as the dark magic sword, but with the look of a soul greatsword.
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>>147827025
The only reason why it might be stronger is because it's physically impossible to invade SL120 at SL10 which is a really good thing
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>>147827768
>2H buffed captor on quality vs a 1hand AGS poke
Of course you win that trade if thats uncharged
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>>147827939
I hope it lasts for at least 3 hours because i'll be back home in 2
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>>147827939
Not really.
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>>147828083
>>147828140
i'll ask again in a while then
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>>147828000
If you're not killing the lvl 120+ and lvl 300's that you invade too then ur bad

Every so often you'll run into a guy who actually knows what he's doing but that's far and few between all the free humanity of most invasions
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>>147817597
>place the lordvessel without him,
isnt it imposssible to get to the four kings without placing the lordvessel?
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>>147827995
that's amazing
do have any idea how to replicate that? like, do you remember where you were standing relative to him and where you were moving?
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>>147828354
You can do four kings as the first boss if you kill ingward
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>>147828354
you just need to have the lordvessel in your inventory so ingward gives you the key to the seal, otherwise you'd have to kill him for the key.
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I fucking pity greathammer users, you guys have it rough.
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>>147828524
>>147828354
well i guess you'd need to do sif first but you get the point
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Why are there still people who try to parry two-handed great weapons?
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>>147828524
>>147828568
>>147828656
well fug, no red eye orb for me in this ng cycle
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If I go offline, can I use CE safely?
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>>147828706
Cause not everyone goes online and has other people tell them everything about the game :^)
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Using the Astora straight sword with raw infusion, pure faith build.
Heading to boreal valey and my weapon damage is starting to fall behind, is there a weapon/infusion I should grab before I get too far into the valey?
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>>147828785
yea :)
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How do you pronounce "Tsorig"?
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>>147828890
(Raw) Dragonslayer's Axe
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>>147828948
so-rig
tho-rig if you're mike tyson
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>>147828948
so-reeg
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>>147828785
Won't you get soft-banned if you go back online in DaS2+3?
DaS1 doesn't matter since only people with PvP watchdog will just instant disconnect.
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>>147828948
I say "Tssoreig"
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>>147828948
Sore-rig
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>>147828948
tsu - o - rig
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Name one thing brought over from Dark Souls 2 into 3 that was actually improved

>forbidden sun takes 75 stamina, causes no lava, does no damage
>greatsword was changed from glorious 110% S STR to C / C
>dragonslayer crescent axe had its unique moveset removed
>paired fist weapons are slow as shit
>everything about dead again
>FUGS doesn't deflect weak weapons, nerfed to hell
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>>147828890
Lothric ugs or dragonslayer axe
Do the irithyll dungeon skip and then go backwards through the lv to grab slb
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>>147829020
>>147829047
>>147829074
>>147829142
I guess I'm the only one who thinks of him as Canadian then.
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>>147828948
I''m slav :^
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>>147828948
Tsorig, more like overcompensating, am I right?
Tiny penis.
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>>147828201

Did the fc namefags finally leave?
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>>147829345
Not even greatshields deflect anything anymore, wouldn't want to pose a challenge to straight sword r1 spam

Ds3 dev team was a bunch of amateurs and the game sux
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>>147829345
Fire snake sucks dick now
Instead of balancing flynns theyjust made it worthless
Bring sentinels back but also make darkmoons into sentinels
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>>147829345
vestiges does splash damage and causes more damage than forbidden sun after all nerfs
ds2 scaling sucks ass, even c/c in ds3 is better than S in ds2
yet it became one of the best twink tools and overall one of the best axes
post-nerf fist weapons were shit in ds2 as well with the exception of bone fist
dead again will get buffed eventually
fugs should've stayed in ds2
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>SL 100
>ocieros chops off 75% hp with most attacks in ng+ 7

Might as fucking well be sl 1
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>>147828948
Tsonigger the Blackest Knight
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>>147829515
what namefags?

my FCs are pure of heart and mind
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>>147829641
>Fire snake sucks dick now
It actually has insane tracking instead of just slightly arching to the side like it did in DS2
And i'm glad flynns is dead, although it still has applications on fist builds.
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>All these fags pushing the Ornstein is the Stormdrake shit.
>Grasping desperately at "with whom he lead a life time of battle".
>The item description they're citing doesn't even say that.


It says on which he led a lifetime of battle. Not "beside" not "with whom".

Do people need their favorite Dark Souls boss to have become a successful, reputable figure so badly they're willing to grasp so hard for virtual straws? What the fuck? Even if he took the Path of the Dragon shit, he probably failed and became one of those snake men. He's not the Stormdrake.
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>>147829801

You know the smash fc gimmicky namefags
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>get summoned for NG+* Old Demon King
>host has Cuculus and Tsorig already
>ODK about to start channeling his explosion, we're doing enough damage to him to kill him before then
>host runs away
>Cuculus and Tsorig break off to follow him
>I get oneshot
>host gets oneshot
How hard is "keep hitting it" really to grasp?
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is lothric knight ugs gud? do i make it refined or go full on str or dex?
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>>147830029
It's surprisingly shit
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>>147829769
if they made it so he can't open with the charge, the fight would probably be completely different and actually fun
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Could you guys help me with builds for Demon's Souls? Is Demonbrandt worth using, or moderately quick to acquire? What about the Blueblood sword? If I wanted to build around the latter, which is the best starting class?
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>>147830029
Lothric ugs is for faith buildswith slb

>>147829821
Doesnt matter than they made the tracking insane when it still does no damage
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>>147830119
Something is shit in ds3? you don't say
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>>147829345
>FUGS apologist
Oh yeah, 800+ AR 2H is fine. Ebin
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>>147830376
250 damage per cast that goes through obstacles and around corners, pursuing chuggers and potentially allowing you to true combo it into r1r1 if you're close is more than enough, much better than ds2 version that never hit anyone remotely competent because you could just fucking walk to the side to avoid it.
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>>147830448
>actually defending this
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>>147829932
Sounds like you're mad salty that you suck lol
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>>147830376
>it still does no damage
What do you want? 500 damage? Well how about buff farron dart for 300 damage? It's not big deal after all
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>>147830448
>Getting hit by UGS

Maybe you git gud first and then you could complain about shit
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>>147830565
I sure you will like epic pre parched gank squads. One hit = dead. One trade= dead.
>soon: CCS apologists
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>>147830448
>slow as shit
>heavy as shit
>looks like shit
>and now does shittier damage at 99 STR than quality 40/40 BKGA, Pure STR Yhorm, and DSGA

Go suck Miyazaki's dex cock
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>>147830652
By the time a pyro has 40/40, hosts have 1.5k hp
250 damage isnt worth it unless it's some sort of no healing honor duel.

In which case youre fucked anyway because they're running hollow quality.
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>>147830784
>gank squad all using the same weapon can kill one person
and this any different from regular gank squads?
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>>147830784
Oh dear i'm fucking prepared for CCS nerf, let the autistic rage flow.
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>>147830774
i never get hit in shitty souls game
git gud
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WHY ARE PEOPLE SO SCARED OF A HALF-NAKED MAN WITH TORCHES WHO PLACES WARMTH?

FUCK
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>>147830905
>ccs
getting nerfed
literally been untouched since release
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>>147829065
I used it fine in DaSII, I just had to go offline first. I only want to use it to make farming easier.
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>>147830905
Can't wait for DS3 version
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FUCK YOOOOUUUU
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>>147829345
Greatsword has a better moveset unique to it.
Dragonrider Bow isn't as cumbersome to use and doesn't have split damage
Vestiges with high damage and huge AoE radius
Fire Snake has better tracking and goes over terrain
Black Blade has better reqs
Manikin Claws are useful Dex weapons with quickstep
Hollowslayer is now godly
Dragonslayer Axe is not pretty versatile and useful
Most sets don't look like shit anymore
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>>147830905
Oh yeah
Like how we waited for the dark sword nerf

LITERALLY 9 AR
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>>147831058
>ds2 pvp
>existing
can you not post old pics?
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>>147831079
dark sword was shit to begin with
more importantly, they patched estoc and made it much less useful
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>>147831078
Greatsword moveset isnt unique and it's also the worst ugs moveset
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What do you think could be added to the Lothric/Lorian fight to make it seem more desperate than it already is?

Because let's face it, of all the boss battles in the game that's the one where you feel like the bosses are really crippled little shits trying to get the bad man away.
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>>147831204
nah it's pretty unique, it's got the horizontal heavy attacks
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>>147831058
Have fun with glorious DS2 matchmaking.
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about a year ago some anon made a poorly drawn mspaint picture of gwyn blocking the fist of dragon god. Gwyn said:"lol nope XD" and the dragon god said:"shit nigga"

Does anybody here happen to have that picture?
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>>147831274
Add literally anything to stop a player from rolling to the right side every single time and avoiding any damage
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>>147831204
Greatsword is the only UGS with Horizontal R2. A lot of them have the stab or another move, like BKGS.
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>>147831274
Old Demon King is sort of like that.
At the end anyway.

Anyway I don't want to talk about changing the Lothric/Lorian fight since it's already virtually perfect as it is. It's one of the better fights in the game.
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>>147831274
Let them both channel their life energy into a sword at the end, releasing one last wave of fuck your mother and fuck you.
>>
>ornstein was an illusion all along because 'he's so badass xD can't have the player beating him'
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>>147831771
You were actually fighting his armor that was more badass than its owner, lived longer and even went through major remodeling, adapting an even more aggressive combat style.
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>>147831771
Nah he died in Ds1 any shit you read about in 3 is some pretender and who gives a fuck anyway they just needed an excuse to slip in his armor and spear

STILL WITH NO PLUME
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>>147831771
>Not just questioning everything in Anor Londo after you bring down Gwyndolin's facade.
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>>147830934
Because shit like that was a meme in previous games, and they usually had some gimmick they would switch to to one shot people.
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>>147831924
could have just made it so you get his armour after aldritch like smoughs (unless aldritch is smough), I dunno, the wanky fanservice surrounding ornstein always takes me out of it a bit
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>>147827961
DS1 pvp is fucking shit, though.
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>Pontiff's death animation is short and lacks particle effects like when we kill other Irithyll bosses
>implying we can actually kill an S grade asshole and master sorcerer that easily
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>>147831924
>DaS2/3 have actual cloth physics
>STILL NO FUCKING PLUME


It hurts.
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>>147832343
his stand he summons is actually the real pontiff being remotely summoned in from a different location
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>>147832332
t. secondary
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>>147832426
It's just a subtle hint at that real Ornstein never had a plume. His automaton armor did.
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>>147831771
>>147831864

>Dragonslayer """armor"""
>gets blood particle effects when you hit it
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>>147832343
Other Irithyll bosses are beasts he made with his magic, they're fucked up. There's an enormous difference between him and them that doesn't really have anything to do with power.
>>
Did they port any twinblades from DaS2 over to 3? It was honestly one of the very few new ideas I actually liked about the game.
>>
>>147832492
Played the series since demons. You're delusional. I bet you think glitches are tech too.
>>
Who the fuck thought it's a good idea to use used toilet paper as a cape on the silver knight armor?
Would be the best armor in the game otherwise.
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>>147832332
Nah you're just butthurt from getting backstabbed all the time cause you suck at it
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>>147831771
Ornstein is basically Dark Souls Boba Fett, yes.
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>>147832567
t. scrub
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>>147827504
>Ds3 is a shit game after your first playthrough
It really isn't, though. It's linear as fuck and the NG+ is shit but the level design is great, the encounter and mob design is very solid, the boss fights are at least good (opinions may vary on the Ancient Wyvern but imo it was an okay gimmick fight)
>>
>>147831864
I doubt that armor was his, it was probably another dragonslayer.
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>>147832635
Yeah, vacuum stabs are terrible. Enjoy your dead glitchfest.

>>147832638
t. nobody
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>>147832567
You don't even need to use any of that shit to beat people sounds like you're just shit :)
>>
>summoned as a blueberry
>Expexting one fight and then continue the quest
>End up facing three red phantoms, one after another
>Gotta control breathing, keep calm
>Host kills a red that invaded a second time
>Four proofs for one summon
One of the invaders was cosplaying as a darkwraith, full armor and weapons, and would only advance by walking slowly forward. Shit was cash
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>>147832726
>actually getting backstabbed

lol what a surprise cry some more gay boy
>>
w-who /SoTFS/ on pc here? I want friends to gank with.
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>>147832726
nigger stop ure just getting shitposted at this point
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>>147832746
I beat people with ease in das1, doesn't mean the pvp isn't shit. Abusing glitches just make it way easier to fend off shitters. Chainstabbing retards with a chaos rapier is still the best feeling in the world, specially when they go cry in your profile after.

>>147832885
If you play das1 pvp you're bound to be back stabbed. It's all the dept there is in that game besides glitch abusing.
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>>147832991
If you were actually good at anything you're talking about you wouldn't be bitching about it like a little faggot
>>
What was the weakest area in DS3 in you guys' opinion?

I have a hard time picking any actually bad areas from the game, meanwhile DS2 was full of meme-tier bad areas and DS1 had 1 particularly bad area (Izalith).
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>>147833181
Propaned capital
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>>147833181
farron keep easily
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>>147832894
i haven't gotten very far, i really don't know how to play this game
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So I went ahead and tested the high vit heavy armor build and the damage I took did seem lower. Like 40 to 50 points lower. In my 15 vit setup this guy usually 5 shots me. I guess it does add up but it's not that relevant.
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>>147833181
i think everywhere in 3 is either bad or shit except Undead Settlement and maybe the Catacombs
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>>147833181
Profaned Capital, even though I enjoyed it a bit. It's small and annoying to navigate. Both Boreal Valley and Lothric Castle were great, so I don't know what happened to this one, even the area before it was pretty good.
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>>147833172
>you're not allowed to complain if you play the game
shut up riot games
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>>147833312
I have a character at a low SM, I think 350k. We can still play together, I love doing coop.
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>>147833181
Irithyll is garbage and people are distracted by it's nice aesthetics
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>>147833320
>142
die
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>>147833608
:^)
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>>147833181
Anor Londo

The most boring part of "wasted potential: the area" has been copy pasted into another game, made somehow even more linear and got some fancy filters slapped on it.
At least it's short I guess.
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>>147833457
Hey if the game is too hard for you maybe you should play ds3 and use a straight sword like everyone else that complains about Ds1 xD
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>>147833732
There's literally nothing hard about chainstabbing people.
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>>147833320
>still using tiny axe
FAGGOT
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>>147833547
This, seriously. It's pretty, but it's literally just a corridor.
>>
https://docs.google.com/document/d/19cPjkNQ2YEG9RbIOc6qzKgN6hUGNxX63DUsB1N_BGo4/edit?pageId=112987746812305117276
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>>147833320
>in haels
>that staggering
DELETE THIS
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>>147833806
then why are you so ass busted about glitches and backstabs lmao
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>>147833690
Are you talking about the area after the spiral stair elevator or everything after Pontiff? I always assumed that the Anor Londo subtitle was just for the reveal, not to indicate a new area.
>>
Joined the bell covenant and am wearing the ring but haven't been summoned after 20 minutes of waiting. Am I doing something wrong?
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>>147831135
Its the red phantom NPC before the chariot anon.
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>>147833903
Areas that are not a corridor in das3
>highwall
>settlement
>grand archives
>cathedral
>dungeon
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>>147833320
>trade hits with someone
>they recover so much faster than you that they can continue the stunlock for a 2nd hit
This game is dumb.
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>>147834097
I was thinking about that too. It seems a property exclusive to thrusting halberds. Their stagger is way too high on a 2HR1. At first I thought I failed to input the roll but after watching it again and following my inputs I was really mashing circle and no roll came out. It's dumb, I agree. They already have retarded tracking, why have 2 years of hitstop/stunlock.
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>>147833474
where you at?
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>>147834096
What areas can be considered corridors other than the transitional roads?
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>>147834096
Demon ruins.
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>>147834000
>I always assumed that the Anor Londo subtitle was just for the reveal, not to indicate a new area.
Yeah, same here. I count it as part of Irithyll.

>>147833362
>>147833246
>Propaned Capital
I lol'd and yeah, I forgot that it was even an area! Looks awesome, short as fuck even if you count Irithyll Dungeon as belonging to the profane capital.
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>>147834343
farron keep
profaned capital
lothric castle
archdragon peak
consumed king's garden
cemetery of ash / untended graves
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>>147834317
I can be anywhere anon, I've finished this game twice. My 350k character is at Huntman's Copse now, I think. I use him mostly for RPing and twinking
>>
When should I parry Gotthard's rolling L1? WHen they're in the middle of their roll?
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>>147834465
I'm at belfry luna sm 400k but am not overpowered or a twink
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>>147834623
Sure, I'm there for the Bell Keepers covenant. Have you killed the Gargoyles or the Lost Sinner?
>>
How's Anri's Straight Sword after regulation 1:09?
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>>147834441
Is Lothric Castle the area with the dragons? If so, that's wrong, the level has a lot to explore. Also only the end bit of Farron Keep is a corridor compared to the two different sprawling swamp areas, I'm not sure if that could count.
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Can I mod SOFS?

I just want to remove the particle effects from regen items
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>>147834710
killed lost sinner but not gargoyles.
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>>147834760
holy shit this game looks awful
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>>147834505
yep, remember to input a kick after so you can interrupt the L2. If you get a parry, the kick doesn't come out.

>>147834724
Yes. You literally go a straightline until the dragons and then turn right if you did kill them, or left if you didn't.
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>>147833181

Profaned Capital sucks dick but that's because it shares the fate of apparently all fire-themed cities whereby they are rushed or unfinished.

Honestly though Farron Keep's swamp area was really fucking poor.

It was originally envisioned as this dark, misty, moody swamp area. This concept art makes it look really atmospheric.

Instead it's just...grey. There's no sense of being really lost in a swamp, it's just the same as above but grey. What the fuck, why did they pay so little attention to a mandatory early game area?
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>>147834272
It works with 2H curved swords, too. They can trade into most of the weapons in the game and still complete their stunlock. It's part of what helps the carthus dominate virtually everything without HA. They can afford to trade aggressively since they still get a guaranteed 2 hits.
>>
>PS4
>90SL +8
>invade
>spawn in middle of four people gank
>check theri profiles
>japs
Why most ganks are japs and US?
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>>147834761
I can place my sign there. Do you have a name ring?
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>>147834902
Yeah. Meanwhiel in BB there is swamp with fog
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>>147833320
That's my big hangup about 3 - every build feels squishy as fuck now.
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>>147834956
no but i could probably farm souls for it quickly
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I kill npcs for items what you gonna do, huh?
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>>147834839
But there's plenty of out-of-the-way rooms and ledges in Lothric Castle.
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>>147834392
>cool as fuck looking ruined tower
>the interior is empty and it's moved in and out of entirely via ladders
>it's just a bonfire platform
I can't fathom how they settled on the Profaned Capital and thought "yes, this is fine."
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>>147834902

For reference.

In contrast, what we got is absolutely Dark Souls 2-downgrade levels of shit. Just because mist was used to hide poor draw distance in 95, doesn't mean it's some faux pas..
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>>147835141
Do you want to add me?
My profile is cancerous
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>>147835082
That's cause they are

health is normalized around 27 vig, vit is only slightly above resistance in uselessness, no poise, and 3/4 of the 1h weapons do way too much damage
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>>147835163
As in Irithyll. You don't need to go there. Unlike Settlement, which you need to visit every single part of it.
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>>147834721
Still strong. 402 ar with base stats and 40 luck is nothing to snuff at
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First time going through Dark Souls (have never played one before). Doesn't seem like there's any point to enchanting my weapons if they lose the status boost I get from my level ups? Especially when I can just buy or farm resins.
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>>147835243
this is concept art dumbass
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>>147835308
You can skip a lot of the Settlement.
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Now that I've discovered the wonders of fast roll I don't think I can ever go back, /dsg/.
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>>147835167
Takes a lot more time and dev team talent to come up with an interesting and original area than making ostentatious hallways with recycled shit
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>>147835249
sure, why not
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>>147835413
You mean the spook jump?
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>>147835473
no bully
sorry if I invade you if you're in Belfry
http://steamcommunity.com/id/lucmagnus/
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>>147835387
Do yourself a favor and leave here right now and figure out how to beat the game on your own
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>>147835243
That's concept art, anon. And the swamp area in BB wasn't foggy, it was the forest. The swamp was in some sort of alien wasteland.
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>invader is shit
>he drops 5600 souls
>his build is shit
>he either parry fishes or uses some overused fotm weapon like 2kats
Why you SL80 guys are so bad?
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>>147835404

Yeah, and?

The area was designed based on said concept art and it looks like garbage.

I mean it's a total fucking embarassment that Farron Keep is meant to be built on Darkroot Garden, an area that despite being in a previous-gen game from 5 years prior, has more mystique and atmosphere.

You do not need teams of designers or dual Nvidia Titans to put in fog, lights, and colours other than grey and dark purple in your swamp area.
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>>147835550
No, I mean you don't have to go to pick up the covenants, you don't even have to kill the tree or help Siegward, you can make a beeline to the forest right away.
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>>147835628
>invader is shit
>he drops 38700 souls
>his build is shit
>he either parry fishes or uses some overused fotm weapon like 2kats
Why you SL120 guys are so bad?
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>>147835243
>downgraded concept art
you're one dumb motherfucker
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>>147835739
You don't have to do a lot of shit in this game.
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>>147835753
>guy explains Farron Keep doesn't look like the concept art and shows the concept art of which the area will have been designed from
>lol dude ur so stupid it's concept art!!!! owned XD

I thought school was finished?
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>>147835747
SL120 invaders are dropping ~13500 anon
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>>147835886
stop samefagging and don't use the word "downgrade" if you don't understand its meaning you dumb piece of shit
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>>147835784
Then why give Lothric Castle shit for the same reason?
You don't have to unlock the Sunlight Altar, you don't have to pick up the tomes or kill the Pus of Dragons.
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>>147835892
Thanks. I was just being disingenuous though.
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>>147836057
Lothric castle is a shorter corridor with nothing important there.
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>>147836020

Concept Art Farron Keep
>mist
>darkness
>lighting to provide contrast
>colour to ensure it's not too dreary
>trees to convey the corruption of the area

In-game Farron Keep
>JUST TAKE THE LAST AREA AND TURN EVERYTHING GREY

It's a downgrade, to be fair.
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>>147835892
What SL drops 147k souls?
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>>147835243
This looks like shit desu.
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>>147836260
>Gray
it's more of a darkish yellow brown.
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>>147836304
That's like SL300.
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>>147835628
>>147835747
>invader is good
>he drops a ton of souls
>he uses dual greatswords and unique combos with pyro and magic thrown in, making the fight fun

You 142 builds are alright
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>>147809034
>Quickstep
>Useful in rollspam souls 3
Pick one nigger

Also the range on Corvian with 2HR1 pokes are pretty amazing for interrupting R1 spammers or some of the slower rolling attacks, I've killed a few shitty cardcaptors just by poking them before they get a chance to hit
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>>147836260
I don't think you understand meaning of concept art desu. But yeah, it seems like From trying to show us that they can make bright/daylight locations. They can for sure. Now I want dark foggy locations in DLC
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>see Irithyll in the distance for the first time
"Huh, this looks Bloodborne as fuck."
>Fight Sullyvan's Beast for the first time
>beat its ass like a cheap hooker
>midfight it rears up in pain
>stab it in the gut for a gorillion damage
"That was a visceral attack, just like in Bloodborne!"
>spank it down the rest of the way
>it falls on its back and clasps its hands in begging prayer with like 1 HP remaining
"That makes it look like it was derived from humans and still has memories of its previous life. Bloodborne as fuck".
>kill it
>feel sad
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>>147836741
>catacombs is as bright as majula
Why
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>>147836741
Well you're comparing BB, a Miyazaki game, with DS3, a cash grab delegated to an amateur team

what do you expect
>>
>DeS
>3 characters
>100+ hours each

DaS
>4 characters
>1 200+ hours
>3 50+ hours

DaS2
>1 character
>300 hours

BB
>3 characters
>100+ hours each

>DaS 3
>1 character
>52 hours
>bored to death
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Now THIS is viable magic!
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Just finished ds3 without going to side areas or anything I missed, so theres a few bosses and things to do

Can't decide if I wanna go clear the missed stuff then go NG+ then change my build to something new or if I wanna go make a new char completely and complete everything and not miss stuff this time

what do
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I feel dead inside
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>>147837039
>I wanna go make a new char completely and complete everything and not miss stuff this time

Do this
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>>147836881
Sorry, but I don't think DS3 is cash grab. DS3 is pretty clear M game.
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>>147837005
That's beautiful.

Best looking spell in all souls games and it is absolutely dogshit in pvp. Wouldn't even be mad if I got killed by a cheater there.
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>>147837246
Well you're wrong
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>>147836881
>a cash grab delegated to an amateur team
Does your daddy work for Fromsoftware too?
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>>147837382
No I got this thing called a brain that I use to deduce thoughts
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>>147837345
Why? Because you don't like DS3? Or because you're one of those kids who start shitting on DS1 after PC version annonce?
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>>147836849
>Catacombs aren't particularly dark
>All of Lothric Castle is dark as fuck.
I know it's got ceiling openings like the DS1 Catacombs and torches and shit but still.
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>>147837485
"Deducing thoughts" is what they call wild guessing and imagination now?
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>>147837305
I honestly think it should keep firing as long as you hold down r1 and have enough FP/stamina, and it should let you at least slowly turn while concentrating it
>>
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>>147837756
Those could be called scattered thoughts so technically he's right
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>>147837514
>arguing with a BBfag
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How the fuck this Pursuers thing work?
+1 if webm
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>>147837832
GIB BUILD PLS
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>>147837921
But I'm BBfag too :^
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>>147837832
No anon.
Bad anon.
You must make 40/40/30 Rogue Card Captor build now. No fun allowed, shitters get out REEEEEEE
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>>147837832
holy shit this horrible damage, what stats are you on
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>>147838021
It's probably 130SL with one pyro ring or 30/30
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>>147838021
gr8est str/pyro senpai
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>>147837921
i'm a bbfag and i love ds3
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>>147837514
Here's from off the top of my head

Rolls <70% equip load have no ending animation and can be spammed
Shields get broken in 2 hits
Estus healing is essentially instant and unpunishable
Going human not restricted to bonfires
Disparity between quality build and everything else
Lack of disparity between tiny and ultra weapon damage
All weapons normalized around their fully upgraded stat, no more weapons that peak and dip in power at certain level ranges
Killed invasions
Poise working as intended
Covenants manage to be worse than ever before
A lot of uninspired and straightforward areas
Stealth changes to how gear functions in pve vs pvp

I could write a book on this shit but what's the point when most of you are fucking morons
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>>147837832
>156
kek
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>>147837972
Random
>>147838303
I can write same shit about BB, anon.
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>>147838096
>>147838226
Shit damage, but maximum fun. The WA's do more damage than my pyros. The AR on my axe is like 680, but its split damage. Having the pyromancies are beneficial cos they force people to mess up playstyle and run into my attacks
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>>147838303
>Poise working as intended
It indeed works as intended, the thing that CEfag turned on was iron flesh anti-stagger.
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>>147838096
>>147838309
Black Serpent is a cheap and spammable spell. It's kind of like the farron darts. It's to apply pressure.
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>>147838649
Except unlike farron dart, it has a long enough cast time to get your ass punished because they don't have to respect your 156 damage black tickle.
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>>147838303
>Shields get broken in 2 hits
And that's great.
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>>147838649
Fire surge is pyro's version of a dart.
Serpent is more like a mixup starter, pretty effective one at that.
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>>147838427
Yeah you could but BB plays fundamentally different from DS but you'd have no problem just leaving that little tidbit out right? And the whole BB stroker shit that got put into your head, let it go, BB has nothing to do with what's wrong with Ds3
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>>147838235
>all that vit instead of more damage

mate this hurts me to look at
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>>147838705
>long enough cast time to get your ass punished
>*teleports behind you*
>ptfff.... should have used a hollow quality build....... KID.
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>>147838037
get pooped on noob!!!!!!!!!!!!
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>>147838303
do ya'll REALLY want das1 rolls against das3 mobs and bosses
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>>147838705
If you are casting serpent when someone is right in front of your face, no shit you'll get punished. By casting it at mid-longish range, you force your enemy to either roll or take your "tickle", which as seen in the webms can lead to much more damage
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>>147838705
If they will try to tank it they will get stunned at least long enough to not punish it. That shit has a true combo into r1-r1 or BF>C.
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>>147838876
its for fashion m8, much more important IMO. If you want to be a nerd and do my build with more damage, be my guest
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>>147838968
Autists here only care about pvp mini-game. It's a heavy case of smashfaggotry really.
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>>147836260
It doesn't look grey to me.
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>>147838968
Well here is the root of a lot of Ds3's problems

The pve enemies operate at the strength and speed of powerful Bloodborne enemies but the player is designed around DS sword and board. So rather than reconcile this in some reasonable way they give you a ridiculously overpowered roll and heal and call it a day
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>>147839170
but you got all kinds of conflicting colors too
>>
PS4 FC - Water Reserve
pass - dsg
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Was running to fight Deacons on NG+, ran over a summon sign, crashed, and now I cant play because when I load in I'm close enough to the summon sign and it immediately crashes.
I'm 90% sure it's Horace's summon sign, I don't have any save backups, what the fuck do I do? There isn't a single other person with this issue it seems. I've had the game crash randomly but I seriously cannot play this character at all now.
anime grill for attention
>>
Lothric Knight Spear or Dragonslayer Spear for a quality build?
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>>147839232
Why don't you just block? Most of these "hyper-agressive Bloodborne" enemies get deflected by even medium shields.
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>>147838235
>27/27 at 125
>not a single pyro ring or sage ring
>wasting a slot on havels ring
>slotting profained flame when the hitbox is smaller than my dick
This could be the worst build I've seen today
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>>147838873
It's not like I gonna waste my time on DS3 hater. DS1 full of bullshit too, amigo. And DeS
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>>147838968
If poise like DaS1 existed the mobs wouldn't be a problem. The fact that every single one of them can autostagger and have their own DS1 poise forces players to roll like a monkey.
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>>147839354
That might be reasonable but shields are the weakest they've ever been and rollspam is more effective in every situation where you'd consider choosing between the two
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>>147839525
Thank fucking god poise doesn't exists, no more easy mode for you faggot.
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>>147838968
>dodge lorian or nameless' combos
>no stamina to attack back
Sounds fun
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>>147839498
lol keep moving the goalposts to rationalize your idiocy to yourself moron
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>>147839595
This. DS1 is EZ as fuck after BB
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>>147839529
>Shields are the weakest they've been
But not really? This game has the best Greatshields in the series.
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>>147839476
>phantom tsorig losing

IMPOSSIBLE
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>>147834097
Poise could affect staggering duration allowing heavier armor to recober quickly enough to roll away from smaller weapons.
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>>147839595
Sorry can't hear you over my infinite bloodring rolls.
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>>147839595
>>147839670
I agree with this though rollspamming is still an issue.
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>>147839595
Everything is easy mode when fighting a shitter like you xD
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>>147839645
kek epic
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>>147839670
Lol
Chaining bb dodges is like ds3 with a constant carthus ring
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>>147839767
>bloodring
can't hear you over my leo lucerne raping your ass for 1500 HP combos any time you will try to initiate an attack
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>>147839703
lol they don't even deflect other player's attacks anymore and are you just forgetting about the 30+ str requirement that most of them have?

You ds3 buttfuckers are RETARDED
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>>147839703
>This game has the best Greatshields in the series.
No way
I tanked smough and arty with 15 endurance and a greatshield
In ds3 i had to drop it constantly
>>
reminder miyazaki never intended for poise to exist as it did in ds1 past it
bloodborne had no poise system
dark souls 2 only had a similar poise system because a different director and dev team trying to work off of what was there
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>>147838235
kudos for going fashion, i guess

>>147838876
>>147839497
>/dsg/ complains about metashittery all the fucking time
>upset that a dude decided to go full fashion
???
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>>147839898
>moving goalposts back to PvP
DaS3babbies everyone
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>>147839923
>don't even deflect other player's attacks anymore
they never did
tears of shieldfaggots make me happy, i'm really glad your crutches got nerfed into oblivion
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>>147839306
coming
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>>147839923
>30str requirment
>relevant in a game where anything that isn't a caster is a quality build
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>>147840052
typical DS3 buttfucker
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>>147839497
It plays more like a STR build with options than a pyro. Havel's is important for fashion. I heard profaned can be used as a wakeup attack, and I have a bunch of stuff that knockes people over. I can win against people, and therefore there is no problem, unless you would rather I go CCS or darksword shitter? I guess its too bad you hate fun m8
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>>147839348
Former
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>>147837167
Seriously guys, I must be doing something wrong here. This guy's normal attacks take half of my hp bar, his second form's attacks at least 70% of it. I'm wearing my best armor that doesn't take me above 70% weight, have a decent amount of level (in fact, I'm probably overleveled already). His moves are so hard to dodge too, it's like I'm not even supposed to be beating him.

What the fuck am I doing wrong? I played all the other soulsborne games so far and never have I encountered such a hard boss.
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>>147839898
The fact that rollnigger can wear a single piece of thorn armor and roll around you while you never land a hit really exemplifies the status of DaS3 PvP
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>>147839869
>people say BB pvp is shit
>e-celebs and their cock suckers abandon game
It's rare to see anyone who abuse BB dash for reactive play and turtling. Seems like all cancer gone with e-celebs. Even dashwheel and dashBoM is not so scare campared to Reiter+Shield turtle
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>>147840150
My little anon can't be this buttmad.
>>
>>147839306

Where should we put our signs? I haven't killed the doggos yet so closer to the ladder would be ideal
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>>147840000
I tanked Arty with a medium shield which I thought was retarded
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Holy shit fuck Lothric Castle. I've never seen so much bullshit packed into one fucking area.

>TWO dragons guarding the fucking bridge and paths beyond it
>get past that - transforming hollows
>avoid that - loyd-spamming hollows, exploding bolt hollows, greataxe and halberd hollows all in one area
>get past that - two Lothric Knights that guard nothing
>get past that - boreal knight who attacks a hundred times a fucking second
>get past that - dragons constantly burning the only path forward
>get past ALL THIS SHIT, and there's a room full of powderkegs and fucking hollows throwing firebombs at you

Each one of these are within fifteen fucking feet of each other. What the fuck.
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>>147840219
meet raime
keep trying and good luck buddy
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>>147840221
>doing 1 damage per roll against a typical quality build with blessed offhand and regen ring
>having such a shit defenses you take an enormous damage during any trade
boy you are retarded
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>>147840453
who
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>>147839670
>>147839595
>play DaS1 three weeks ago going on a Giantdad as my first ever playthrough
>no shield because 2handing a 2hander at 16 STR and dumping every levelup point into END or VIT and 2bad to stance switch rapidly mid fight
>learn dodgerolling the hard way
>git gud @ rolls because not even Giants can save you from bosses or trashmob gangbang
>go to DaS3
>armor is basically dead weight because medium armor gives you 10-20 % damage reduction while consigning you to midroll aka death
>all the enemies are roided up retards who go into 6 hit combos at the drop of a hat
>THEY have poise, YOU don't
>I've literally played the entire game wearing Masters', loincloth and rag mask until now (Irithyll) and I see no reason to change this unless I find Havel's with the special property of weighting fucking nothing

The game should be renamed Burritosouls because it's nothing but ground meat rolled up
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>>147840221
You can do same in BB.
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QiCyVFc6OdQ
This is bad example, but you can be unstoppable if not shitter
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>>147840376
Put right by the bottom of the stairs, doggos don't aggro that way and host doesn't have to climb.
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>>147840492
This post should be used in schools to teach the concept of irony
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>>147840532
>B-but Bloodborne

Tell me, you never even played the other souls games have you?
>>
Yes for pyro build?
https://mugenmonkey.com/darksouls3/53924
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>>147840687
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>>147840730
???
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>>147840736
>more than 20 end on anything but ultra weapons builds
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>>147840730
This is the part where he starts talking about poise and backstabs to feign that he has a clue
>>
>ds1
>backstab souls
>can tank everything with a shield that has good stability
>good armor is basically invincibility mode with the poise system
>impossible to hit with magic in pvp, pyromancy is useless, magic way too overpowered in pve
>30 fps

>ds3
>lmaobloodring
>endless dodging + low stamina cost
>katanafaggotry running r1 spam
>curved swords faster than light
>everyone fishing for parries


I'd rather take DS3 over DS1.
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>>147840532
>r1s and roll+r1
You're garbage m8
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>>147840869
that's cause you're obviously shit at ds1 lol
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>>147840687
i have a similar one
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>>147840869
>impossible to hit with magic in pvp, pyromancy is useless

You can stop pretending anytime
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>>147840869
The only good katana got a range reduction and now perfectly countered by glaives or any hyperarmor weapon really.
DS3 parry fishing is punishable as fuck given the amount of unparriable attacks and ability to bs punish.
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>>147840736
Too much endurance
Witch ring adds more pyro damage than great swamp.
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>>147840850
DS1 is sure perfect game. So much techs :))
>every thread in same time samefag baiting "DS3 is shit game" "cash grab" etc
>same speech patterns
>it works like a clock
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>>147840687
>tfw freedom
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>>147840869
>>everyone fishing for parries
>implying people weren't fishing for parries in DaS1
Reminder: you can parry ANYTHING but jump attacks in DaS1, including ultra greatswords. You could even parry a giantdad unless you're a total shitter, which I'll have to assume you are.
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>>147841091
i have both rings you nog
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>>147840905
Let's duel!
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>>147840687
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>>147841246
I don't have a 120 crutch build though
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So how is this weapon ?
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>>147841332
literally the best halberd in the game
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>>147841332
Top 5 atm.
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>>147841332
It's a halberd.
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Was Deacons of the Deep really a fucking boss battle? That shit was way too easy and im terrible at this game
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>>147841186
Nobody threw out parries in Ds1 except as a desperate last resort
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>>147840983
DS1 is far easier than DS3. Only beavis and butthead are any challenge.

>>147841087
I mostly play caster builds for pvp so running r1 spam is a huge bother to me. Black flame/combustion doesn't cast fast enough or has enough range to counter it and all spells are too slow even with sage+2 to stop them.

Literally win against everyone but 2kat and washing pole faggots who just spam that shit.
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>>147838742
what armor is that?
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>>147841332
my weaponfu dont use it
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>>147841326
It's 98BL
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>>147841550
Go 60 or get the fuck out
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>>147841209
Says untrue white ring there pal
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>>147841531
hands off nigger it was mine first
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>>147841507
I wonder if playing Ds3 first and reading shit online had anything to do with Ds1 being easier for you wait I'm lying lol I'm not wondering at all
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>DS1 PVP
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iHDNEej-h9M
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>>147841521
Nk armour
alva leggings
havel gauntlets
exile mask
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Things I want in DLC:
>Frost infusion
>Frost spells/miracles/pyromancy
>One of the primordial serpants mounted on a wall
>Visit to the ruins of the pygmy king's land
>A dungeon with moving rooms
>A boss that knows which of the 4 damages you are weakest to, and uses different spells/movesets accordingly
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>>147841463
were any of the dark souls 3 """bosses""" difficult or well designed?
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>>147841656
stfu retard
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>>147841131
Spoken like a true 16 year old who just has BB and DaS3
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>>147841698
Aldrich is an interesting super mage boss besides that tho not really
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are there any other weapons besides onikiri and ubadachi that are strictly better as hollow than refined? nothing that is just like a 10 ar increase from the latter to the former
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>>147841645
>Tfw you type W and you click the wrong ring.
You know what i mean though.
The weapon and spells are whats important and need judging
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>>147841683
>Visit to the ruins of the pygmy king's land
That would be the kingdom of man.
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>>147841628
>60BL
>literally confirmed newfag
Jesus Christ.
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>>147841673
nice set
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>>147841683
>>A boss that knows which of the 4 damages you are weakest to, and uses different spells/movesets accordingly
Does that really matter when any enemy can pretty much 2shot anyone regardless of what they're wearing now?

I'm all for a frost magic set though.
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>>147840449
>TWO dragons guarding the fucking bridge and paths beyond it

You can kill them easily if you get behind them. They're more of an environmental hazard than a real enemy.
All of the stuff you mentioned : I think it makes the area really good and challenging, even surpassing Demon's Souls (if only there weren't so many bonfires, though, the level only really needed the Lothric Castle bonfire and Grand Archives bonfire).
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>>147841853
Chalice dungeons below lvl 100 too difficult for you?
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>>147841669
>let me just google DS1 PVP
>that'll show em!
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>>147841662
>ds1
>die a few times in the first areas of the game then almost never again after learning to dodge and parry
>struggle with O&S a bit then barely die to any boss
>greatshields are godmode

The area design is much better and it doesn't have a hub system. But everything else is worse than DS3.

PvP was fishing for backstabs or using WOTG like a fag.
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>>147841698
ye
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>>147841698
Dragonslayer Armour?
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>>147841894
I got past it after venting, but really, fuck all of that shit being packed so tightly together. It's challenging yeah, but for the wrong reasons. You literally never get a moment to catch your breath until you clear the hollow swarm after jumping down.

Also that hollow with the Loyd's Talismans can go fuck himself.
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>>147841756
Oh Irony, anon. Do you really think no one here played DS and DeS?
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>>147840494
Fume Knight's real name is Sir Raime.

>>147840497
>play DaS1 three weeks ago going on a Giantdad as my first ever playthrough
>playing a meme build on your first playthrough
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>>147841853
That's not how you use that word you fucking retard. Go back to plebit.
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>>147841820
Good if you are going for pvp.

For invasions you should switch GCFO with vestiges to punish chuggers.
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>>147841698
Abyss Watchers
Pontiff
Dancer
Lothric and Lorian
Nameless King
Champion Gundyr
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>>147840497
>midroll aka death
fastroll and midroll have the exact same number of i-frames in DaS3. Only the travel distance differs
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>>147841916
if you were as good at dodging as you lead people to believe you'd easily dodge wog and OS would give you no trouble and if you ever put yourself into position to get backstabbed then u fucked up

wanna take another shot pretending that you're not a shitter?
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>>147841857
Thanks.
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>>147842029
No, I am saying you haven't. Because you and one other nigger seem to be the only ones defending the abomination that is 3.
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>>147838742
son
u almost had that raviolistep backstab
good shit
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>>147842029
I've invaded enough in both to know 99% of you are complete dogshit in them
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>>147841683
I want Ariamis to show up
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>>147841903
???
98BL is /bbg/ meta. Are you trying to impress me with your 60BL epic chikage twink build, newfag?
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>>147841683
>fire attacks are easiest to dodge
>swap to armor weak to fire
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>>147842069
Which makes all the difference in a fight like Abyss Watchers where the fag chains three tracking swings with fire bullshit around it.

>>147842039
>not playing a meme build on your first playthrough
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>>147842284
>98BL is /bbg/ meta

No it isn't you don't speak for bbg
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>>147842092
Whether I was good at pvp or not is not the point. The point is DS1 pvp had even more dogshit mechanics than DS3 and pve could be cheesed far harder with shields and poise.

Or is dodging and taking damage during boss fights too much for you faggot?
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>>147841683
>A dungeon with moving rooms
It would not support online play very well and if you died, your bloodstains would have to spawn outside of the moving areas.

>A boss that knows which of the 4 damages you are weakest to, and uses different spells/movesets accordingly
That would kinda take the strategizing aspect out of the game and basically mean having to focus on having similar protection overall.

I'd love to visit an area that was mentioned as a background land like Thorolund, Balder or other lands. Maybe another trip back to the past.
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>>147842069
>anything under 70% has fast roll with no ending lag
And somebody thought this was a good idea, nice game DS3 fags
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>>147842415
It is.
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>>147842446

I'm hoping for Londor, land of Beef Jerky.
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>>147842520
Stay delusional
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>>147842443
lol don't get too uppity now shitter, it might be frustrating that you're too stupid to even play a video game without instant heals and overpowered rolls but don't get angry at other people about it :)
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>>147842348
>having problem with edge watchers
Literally lmaoing at your life
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>>147842582
>bbg FC is not real!
Lucy?
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>>147842653
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>>147842348
>Abyss Watchers

Just fought them again at ng3 when I was farming for +2 rings. All you have to do is dodge to the side and not backwards. The more he spams that combo the better since if you stay close to him he'll finish with that jumping attack which leaves him open.
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>>147842734
just mash R1 at them, holy shit. they get staggered by fucking longswords how hard can it be
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>>147842716
No comic will save you from the shame of finding abyss watchers difficult
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>>147842806
I don't like one handed weapons.
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>>147840687
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>>147842846
That's not me. It's still pertinent though
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>>147842906
>tfw no princess
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>>147840687
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>>147842716
Capra was a bad design choice and some bosses can be hard because fuck over certain builds, but Abyss Watchers are completely doable because the dodges are so easy to do in DS3.

There have been bosses in the series where the design is clearly bad like Capra, but all DS3 bosses are well designed and pretty much all players should be similarly capable of taking them on due to the generous fastroll.
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>>147842898
they also get staggered by 2handed weapons, you should probably just get good
pve in this game is embarassing, everything gets staggered by mash
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>>147843063
>implying I have the stamina to r1 spam with UGS
They just dodge after the second attack anyway.
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>>147841507
Fire surge is a hard counter of run attack spam of any kind, with fast enough recovery to avoid any punishment.
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>>147843181
just spam roll R1, retard
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>>147843060
Capra design is fine not every boss has to be some guy in an open arena
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>tfw your luck build starter class is thief thinking it would be best
>warrior is once again actually best
is there a way to change a character's class with cheat engine safely?
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>You can't sit like a lady like Irina does.
This bothers me a lot.
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Alright /dsg/, I've decided it's time to take my ds3 paladin character to the Next Level™ and raise him to sl.150.
My current stat spread is:
Str 14 ( for dat sweet Raw ASS, aww yeah)
Dex 14 ( for my based RHH)
Fai 60
At those levels, do you get any significant boost to faith based damage from going past 60 faith, like to 80 or such?

Also, other than buffing a raw ASS, would infusing a longsword, or other straight sword, produce comparable damage to raw ass?
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>>147842931
>>147842931
>>147842931
NEW THREAD
>>147842931
>>147842931
>>147842931
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>>147843026
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>>147843202
post videos
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>>147843259
>Want to do a MLGS build
>Warrior is the best choice
Is cleric the only shitty origin?
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>>147843212
What part of "I don't have enough stamina" did you not understand?
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>>147843409
no, that would be assassin/herald. Thief is up there too.
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>>147843237
Capra is poorly designed because there's no way to see it coming the first time. If you got no poise to endure the dogs + demon you die. Compare to Taurus, his arena has around as much going on without fucking you over for no reason.
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>>147843941
I beat him first try in my first souls game

maybe a little bit of luck but there's nothing wrong with having a cocksucker chilling in a small box with his pets -- it forces a lot of people to take a different approach which is a good trait for a boss in my book
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>>147844209
Without knowing of him and with no poise? I'd doubt it really, because you'd be stunlocked should you even roll the wrong way.
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>>147844340
Wearing hard leather set and all I knew of him was the HOLY FUCK FUCK CAPRA DEMON you'd see everybody talking about when the game first released
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>>147843941
>If you got no poise to endure the dogs + demon you die
>DaS3
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>>147841669
Lame as fuck
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>>147843941
I have beaten it without poise. Plus, you can beat him without even crossing the fog if you really suck at it that badly.
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anyone else who enjoys jumping on the firekeepers head?
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>>147835167
I was pretty sure that's where Yhorm was gonna be.
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