/dsg/ - Demon's/Dark Souls General

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nth for post demons souls builds

What is the crescent Falchion +1 of dark souls 3

>>147630548
counter hit too strong.

i've never done faith/int in ds3 and thought to try respec for faith, sl80 deprived. any suggestions? is it just minreq and dump in faith, raw weapon+buff?

>>147630602
We already answered this:
RAW ASS

Sirris and the goblin girl

At low SL, will a Scholar/Priestess ring or a Fire Clutch/Witch Ring/Great Swamp Ring give me more damage with pyromancies?

>>147630724
No, i almost managed to forget this

>>147630683
Buffs scale from your magic buff stat
Magic Buff stat scales with Int or Faith

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Hey friends how would I go about making a pirate themed build in Dark Souls 3? I think it would be very fun and I'm listening to pirate music now so I need to make this pretty quick before this album ends and I become disenchanted with the idea!!

>>147630548
Does Stance R1/R2 even deal thrust damage? Flamberge is only listed as doing slash due to its moveset.

>>147630927
Curved sword for your cutlass, I think a crossbow would be fitting, silver mask is kind of pirate-y? Maybe the mask that goes with the Mirrah set?

Go for dex or maybe luck as your main stat?

The reason FUGS was nerfed, by the way, wasn't because of people using it with 50str and 700 AR.

Because it has an S-scaling in strength, it continues to scale well beyond the 40 and 60 point softcaps. It gains significant returns all the way up to 99

This is exacerbated because it had extremely high base damage. In fact, it's the only weapon in the game with S scaling in anything along with high base damage.

This meant that people 2H at 66 str had almost 900 AR with the thing. People just didn't realize this at the time because the UI didn't display the change in AR from the 2H bonus back then.

The base damage nerfs were a bandaid fix meant to cap the damage of the FUGS so that 66str builds wouldn't be able to kill endgame players in 1 combo. They went overboard both because it was a rushed correction, and because Frtomsoft clearly does not really care about the usability of ultra weapons so long as they aren't OP. It's been left like that because either fromsoft continues to not give a fuck about ultra weapons (more likely) or because they're focusing on areas of balance one at a time and simply haven't reached ultras on their priority list yet. Considering the focus of each patch so far, the latter seems plausible, but at the same time I strongly suspect that ultras simply aren't on that priority list at all, and will never be getting any kind of balance addressing unless some new kind of game-breaking exploit or overpowered ultra appears (highly unlikely).

>>147630991
Stance R2 is a thrust with every SS and GS.

>>147630756
And what pyromancies are good for low SL invasions?

>>147630701
So boring UGH

>>147631102
Butcher blade also gets S strength scaling.

>>147631335
This game is boring

>>147631357
It has shit base damage.

>>147631335
Well that's the equivalent of the Crescent Falchion. What were you expecting? What could you possibly have hoped to uncover here?

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I miss DaS2. DaS3 showed that even the A-team can mess up a game.

>>147631274
Witch Ring barely edges everything out. But not by much so if you wanna use those rings to skimp on int/faith requirements it's perfectly fine.

There are tons of good pyromancy for low levels, here's a few:

Iron Flesh
Warmth
Great Chaos Fire Orb
Rapport
Chaos Bed Vestiges

>>147631459
>DaS2 was ugly
>DaS3 was pretty but shit
>everyone loves 3 despite being shit because it was pretty, and hates 2 because it wasn't as pretty
>these same people pretend they aren't shallow and vapid drones that are only about memes and graphics
State of the modern gaming industry, really. The most shallow are also the loudest, most opinionated and the most pretentious.

>need 12 vit for 30% roll with Witch's Locks and Rapier
Being pyro is suffering.

>>147631553
Wouldn't reccomend vestiges, you'd use too many levels making you die much faster.

>>147631654
nobody loves 3, what the fuck are you talking about?

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I've recently been feeding my pvp craving that DS3 left unsatisfied by organizing and having fights in castle crashers. Everything was going fine, we were all sat at a comfortable 2bar meta, and I was having a solid time with my grey knight STR/DEF standard build, and then some red knight MAG/AGI shitter started playing and destroying everybody with his L2->Triangle magic and his jumping triangle combos and so everybody quit and now I've wandered back to DS3. What's wrong with me /dsg/? Why can't I break this curse?

>>147631553
I'll for sure use the Witch Ring then, and probably both Scholar's and Priestess, but what should I put in the fourth slot? I've heard Clutch rings are terrible in PvP, so the Great Swamp ring would be best, yeah? Or should I use Sage's for faster casts?

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>dat blast from max charge on MLGS R2
I don't give a fuck about the shitty ass dull color anymore, this is my favorite edition of MLGS

>>147631776
I love 3

>>147631776
I love.

>>147631735
You still look like an ugly motherfucker.

>>147631823
Every game needs its shitters anon, cant escape that fact

>>147631654
I fucking hate 2 because it's boring AND ugly, 3 on the other hand despite its flaws is actually fun to play and explore.
>>147631776
Typical delusional DS2 shitter.

>>147631834
>requires to be fully charged to fire projectiles, making it the slowest version of the MLGS in franchise history, in the 2nd fastest game
>beams do paltry damage compared to previous games
>beams don't AoE
>beams fire into the ground when used with lockon
>still consumes durability, capping you at 6 shots before your weapon is at risk.
It's utter trash

>>147631437
at 66 str it has 466ar 2H 489 buffed and 520 with the lightest armor and flyns ring.

>>147631824
Clutch Rings are bad at the moment. I would prefer using the Sage Ring personally

>>147631954
Then I'm going to become DS3's shitter. I am going to shit all over everybody. I just need a shitter build at a shitter meta and then I'll be the ultimate shitter.

>>147632027
>Typical delusional DS2 shitter.
*rolls towards you with gotthards and blood ring*
outskilled ;)

>>147631102
Doesn't Yhorm's have better scaling even though it has A?

>>147631834
Anon...
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gpExmF0iWb4

>>147631195
Except Twincest GS and GSoJ

>>147632143
Are the R1s thrust though?

Wtf is up with Kirk? He appeared in the depths, I killed him, now I'm at the part where he normally invades in demon ruins for the first time and he's not appearing. I'm human already. I even tried restarting. Do I lose my chance to get his armor now

>>147632104
Yhorm's has higher basedamage and warcry

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FUCK YOU HEYSEL AND YOUR SHIT CONE HEAD AND YOUR FUCKING PICK THAT DOES A WHOPLOAD OF DAMAGE YOU FUCKING FAGOLA STOP INVADING ME AT THE MOST INOPPORTUNE MOMENTS REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>147632035
But it's so pretty though, and I just love the glow while charging, makes a nice contrast with its usual dull color.

>>147632210
You mean for Twincest and Judgement? Yes.

>>147632223
Oh crap I just realized I need to place the damn lordvessel

>>147631823
I love castle crashers but unlimited air combos are cancer Red knight still the best though

FC WHEN?
Or are burgers working right now?

>>147632267
And worse scaling? I need to check that later. Also i like how a simple WA makes my fume build and buff nearly useless

>>147632432
I'll host a das2 pc FC

>>147632287
Use GSoJ

>>147632284
>cone head
It's a funnel you dumbo.

Is SL120 overkill for NG+1? It's a breeze so far.

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>>147632553
>DaS2

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>enb literally abandoning souls

Is DaS3 the misstep of Miyazaki's career? Can the dlc hope to save it?

>>147632631
Even ng+7 is a breeze on a sl120 with a few exceptions

One thing I like about Dark Souls 2 is the refreshing take on concepts such as humanity.

Because in Dark Souls 2 you're not using raw sprites of humanity anymore. The human effigies are basically purging stones specifically to absorb the undead curse.

>>147632575
But I'm playing as a qt mage so MLGS is a must, maybe I'll use GSoJ in my next playthrough for Sillyman cosplay.

>>147632749
When is the dlc anyway ?

>>147630291
>Would a crossbow only (or maybe a small weapon to deal some damage) build be viable in PvP? What crossbow/steps should I take to ensure maximum efficiency if so?

Crossbows will always be a gimmick build that won't be worth shit if you're playing PvP. Especially in 3 where dodging and chugging is fast.

But lmao2Avelyn is your best bet, with one of them being lightning and the other just +15.

Just farmed library 1F for a few hours. About to kill amygadala is sl110 acceptable? Or should I wait until I clear darkbeast and reborn?

>>147632412
Looks wise and for pve Red knight is king but god damn his magic is annoying.

>>147632749
>implying
ENB's just a nobody nowadays so who cares

>>147632908
>110
Jesus christ anon, I hope you're not on NG. Also there's a general specifically for Bloodborne

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>>147632908
>SL110

>>147632784
Qts shouldn't use big weapons.

>>147632104
It has B scaling, and it only scales better now that the FUGS has been nerfed.

People easily forget how strong pre-nerf FUGS was. It broke 700AR 1H at requirements. Yhorm's struggles to reach that even with Warcry active.

>>147632749
ENB got triggered hard by Bloodborne.

>>147633060
>MLGS
>Big
>Implying

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>>147632749
>enb literally abandoning souls
Relax, he's taking a break.

I kinda called this right before DS3 was released :
He's such a huge Dark Souls 1 fag that he can't adjust to play anything else. He played DS2 on-camera literally just through the base game (off-screen he played much more but didn't make videos), same with Bloodborne so I'm thinking he only really liked the first Dark Souls and Demon's Souls enough to obsess over them.

Didn't think he'd tire of DS3 this fast, though.

>>147633031
Am I too low? This is my first time playing so I dont know what levels. I kept dying to those bosses and decided to ground a bit. This general is better for legitimate questions whole the other is mostly circlejerking and memes

>>147633080
>B
It has A

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Want to do a pyromancy build because quality is starting to make me want to kill myself and luck does not sound much better
What are some good weapons? Spells? What should I be putting stats into? Is a dick move to chug ashen estus if I run out of wizard juice?

>>147633080
>People easily forget how strong pre-nerf FUGS was
No. /dsg/ is crutch central. They wanna EZ wins. FUGS was balanced git gud :^

>>147633080
It has A scaling at +5 anon...

>>147633205
P R E T T Y
R
E
T
T
Y

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>>147633227
>that face

>>147633212
Dude you're overleveled as fuck, i was 110 halfway through ng+

>>147632953
Ye. I used to use mag/def with the glowstick and beholder to annoy people with stupid long magic attacks.

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>>147633060
It's okay, it's a magical sword made out of moonlight so it shouldn't wait anything. But seriously why does it wait so much?

>>147633227
Ashen Estus chugging is 100% fine and any greatsword wielding retard at Pontiff who disagrees isn't worth your time

For PvP you wan't great chaos orb, fire whip, sacred flame, and rapport if invading seeded worlds or defending your own

For stats you go 40 int 40 faith to cap damage and you can go 40 attunement for an extra slot

Chaos Thrall Axe is your preferred melee weapon

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>>147633512
it's a very patient sword

>>147633205
Man, I can't think of a single area in the entire series that disappointed as much as the Profaned Capital.

Das3 is boring . Please /dsg/ pick me a weapon to use for a run. Try to pick something I can get early. 3 decides

>>147633512
wait?

>>147633607
Bandit's Knife.

>>147633595
>>147633651
*weight
Fugg I need to sleep

>>147633607
Warpick

>>147633607
my penis

>>147633607
broken sword

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>>147633581
>For PvP you wan't great chaos orb, fire whip, sacred flame, and rapport
>40 attunement for an extra slot
lay off the grass

>>147633601
This...it had so much potential but instead we got a 30 sec run from bonfire to boss with a small optional area

>>147633703
Ok

>>147632762
>One thing I like about Dark Souls 2 is the refreshing take on concepts such as humanity.

The humanity/hollowing stuff was very interesting in Dark Souls 2, too bad that the story was packed into the ending segments of the game and the characters were kinda bad so we didn't get shit like Vendrick dialogue or a coherent package about the humanity / Vendrick / Giant invasion / Dark because large parts of the game felt like a huge side area rather than working towards the main goal. To illustrate how pointless the big boss monsters in Dark Souls 2 were to the story, you can skip all of them by grinding 1 Million souls. Then you can skip fighting Ancient Dragon and you don't have to fight Vendrick either which means that the amount of story related bosses you have to fight in Dark Souls 2 is literally 2 (Giant Lord and Nashandra).

Now, I know that Dark Souls is about the gameplay more than the story, but there's very little investment in the whole thing if the big boss I'm working towards to fighting is just a big monster with nothing to them. Demon's was also kinda guilty of this, but that was before Dark Souls.

Contrast that with how they're building up the boss monsters in Dark Souls 1 or 3.

>>147633797
those are just the decent spells

you still have room for one more if you go 40 attunement, so you can grab some dogshit defensive spell or some retarded shit like boulder heave or serpent

and you won't have to chug ashtus every five casts with high att

Hey, can someone post a screencap of an outfit real quick? I used to wear knight helm/antiquated chest/silver knight gauntlets/painting guardian leggins back in ds1. Does it still look ok for a qt grill this time around?

>>147634026
I can do it if I can get some silver knight gauntlets

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>>147633227
This is going to be a long post.

A pyromancer wants fast, and lightweight weapons. Here are some good ones:
Falchion/Card Captor
Thrall Axe/Hand Axe/Raw Dragonslayer Axe
Estoc/Rapier
Longsword/Lothric K***ht Sword/Broadsword/Raw ASS
Witch's Locks
And if you can afford the weight:
GSoJ
MLGS
Claymore/Raw Flamberge
And of course the grand daddy of scaling: Astora GS

Make some of them chaos for PvE, and some dark for PvP since people usually have lower dark defense

As for spells, here are most of the good ones:

Great Chaos Fire Orb(Learn how to free aim asap and you'll have a good time as a pyromancer). You can true combo this with one attack or Black Flame

Chaos Bed Vestiges. Basically forbidden sun with a disk that can cause some minor damage. Can also true combo with an attack but not sure
about Black Flame

Black Flame. Unparryable cqc pyromancy that true comboes with Combustion(the glove's WA

Black Serpent. Basically Fire Snake from DaS2 but not as powerful. But it true comboes into a hit if you're close enough

Sacred Flame. Goes through shields and allows for a setup fireball

Fire Surge. The 2FP fire damage throwing knife. Use it as much as you can to keep up the pressure

Flame Whip. Good mixup and can true combo with anything

There are some situational pyromancies that can be good too.


Warmth heals anyone in its radius for 35 hp a second. Pretty good for making a chaotic battleground

Boulder Heave is good at breaking shields but it has bad range

>>147633581
Are Witch's Locks any good? I know whips in general are anus but I've heard they aren't that bad.

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>>147633512
It carries the weight of Ludwig's sins inside

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>>147633227
>>147633982
This is what a proper pyro looks like, I won't accept anything else.

>>147633607
Twindaggers.
Hollowslayer
BKGS

>>147634191
>>147633227
And as someone else already mentioned. You would want AT LEAST 35/35 faith/int. No one seems to mind the blue gatorade. If you have anymore questions feel free to ask

>>147634185
Thanks anon, i'm considering grabbing a copy of ds3 this weekend and i'm curious if i can rebuild the same costume again.

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>>147634246
>30 vig

>>147634446
is that not enough or too much
i only have 27

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>>147633801
Yep, I was expecting you to descend down into the Abyss (is it supposed to be ruins of Oolacile?) and fighting cool Hellbeasts and gargoyles, but that's literally it, not even a miniboss along the way. At least it looks as pretty as in the concept art.

To give credit to the developers though :

THEY DIDN'T RECYCLE A SINGLE COMMON MOB AS A BOSS.

Is there a way to get boss souls a second time in a run? I just found out about transposing but I've already used a bunch of souls.

>>147634548
too fucking low for SL120 range
drop some physical stats and pump it up to 44, then we will talk

>>147634640
didnt see that are 120, im 85

>>147634550
They didn't recycle bosses as mobs either, the second Crystal Sage is more of a Miniboss, a really well done Miniboss.

>>147634550
>Is it supposed to be Oolacile ruins?
I'm pretty sure that's Farron Keep

>>147634620
Gotta hit ng+ or hope someone wants to give you a bunch of boss weapons.

>>147634640
You need dex for cast speed and best pyro weapon. 130SL is better for pyro

>>147634712
at 85 already you will invade and fight with people who have 1900 hp and can hit you for 600 damage combos even with fast weapons, 27 vig is like four carthus curved swings

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>>147634191
>Lothric K***ht Sword
kek

on a sidenote; what exactly is "true combo" referring to? is it when you manage to cast the spell and the skill on pyromancy flame at the same timer or something?

>>147634725
>They didn't recycle bosses as mobs either

Well yeah, that's what I kinda meant, just worded it weird.

>>147634620
>Is there a way to get boss souls a second time in a run?
No. I don't know if you can trade boss weapons online, though.


>I just found out about transposing but I've already used a bunch of souls.
How early are you?
Just start another character on the side.

>>147634961
Why not test everything yourself?

>>147634762
No, the post he's responding to. I mean the Profaned Capital, it has similar architecture as Oolacile.

>>147634961
enemy is stunned long enough for the second part of the combo to almost always hit, assuming they dont lag out

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>>147634442
I looked and I don't have the Silver Knight Gauntlets, unfortunately, but I do have everything else.

>>147634725
>>147634550
Ugghhhh, they still have Deacons of the Deep which is a bunch of mobs stuffed in a boss room. Not saying it's bad or lazy but still, there's an example.

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>>147634026
Here you go. I must say you have great taste

What are some fun dual wield weapons? Have one last lightning gem I want to use on something.

>>147635046
because i imagine something like that would be hard to discern for yourself, especially for a first game das3 babby such as myself

plus i don't even have a pyro, likely going to respec soon on my other character though

>>147634246
>16 str
>18 dex
>30 vig

anon...

>>147634961
True combo is an unescapable stunlock, like 2 R1 or Black Flame into Combustion WA

>>147634446
Post a mugenmonkey of your ideal pyrobuild then

>>147634961
true comb just means the cant roll out and have to take all the hits. There are spell combos though were casting 2 spell right after the other will speed up the cast time of the second spell any kind of fire ball then boulder spew is the only one i can remember of the top of my head. there should be a blue flash if your doing it right.

>>147635148
>>147635190
I'm an idiot, of course Nameless Knight is the one he means. Thanks other anon, for doing it one better.

>>147635176
>bunch of mobs stuffed into a boss room
so phalanx?

>>147634246
https://mugenmonkey.com/darksouls3/53160

>125
yes, it's the meta level

>>147635191
All of them are fun.
Fun=/=Good

>>147635205
>especially for a first game das3 babby such as myself
Pyro is hard to play, dude

>>147635191
2kat
2drumsticks
2axe

>>147634990
DS2 and BB actually did the opposite and had some mobs and NPCs elevated to boss status. in SOTFS you fight a Guardian Dragon before the actual boss fight and the infamous ganksquad, in BB a lot of mobs could appear in the dungeons as bosses and the Madman pair were just regular hunters.

SOMEONE FFS HELP ME WITH ALDRICH
I beat him on my mage but i cant with my quality build...
Password:DsG

>>147635148
>>147634442

Regarding the helm :
Third fag here, but you can find the Elite Knight helm with a closed visor, the Herald starts with a new helm with an open visor, plus the herald armor is essentially Ds1 Knight armor with a white cape, and you can find the Dark Souls 1 open visor knight helm as well.

>>147635410
Dusting off the Magnavox Odyssey senpai

>>147635146
>>147635215
>>147635215
figures, thanks
>>147635375
i've already clocked in 150 hours and have a high winrate using a quality LKGS build, i should be able to manage playing a pyro

>>147635191
Gotthard's is good but not so fun
Angel Twinaxes are tons of fun but are also axes

>>147635190
>>147635148
Thanks guys, i spent hours doing """""fashion souls"""""" back before it was a leddit meme and probably have 300 hours on that character. Now, time to find a good weapon, any recs? Used to use velka's rapier for the gorgeous moveset

>>147635331
>one ring

>>147635176
It still is an ok fight despite the concept. It could have been a shitty shared hp bar fight like congregation, but they turned it into something unique.

>>147635410
firing up my Nvidia Shield right now, will be there

>>147635523
what?

>>147635410
let me just boot up my dreamcast real quick fampai

>>147635495
practice freeaiming and spacing and it's not so hard, but don't go in without any practice and be suprised if you get dumpstered

>>147635585
Where is Swamp Ring?

>>147635410
>resin
>r1r1r1r1r1r1r1r1
>dodge homing spells
>r1r1r1r1r1r1r1r1
>>run from arrow rain
>r1r1r1r1r1r1r1r1
>dodge scythe sweep
>r1r1r1r1r1r1r1r1

adjust the amount of r1 to your specific needs

>>147635413
Nice, will keep it in mind.
>tfw autistically imagining the character snapping down the visor to go full serious when they walk into a boss fight

>>147635585
>one ring

>>147635518
Depends on your build really. But you can't go wrong with the following:

Raw ASS/Lothric K***ht Sword
Greataxe
Bestoc/Ricard's Rapist
Claymore/Flamberge
And Uchi which you get from a certain hobo at the start

>Using Pontiff's Left Eye
>Not a lot of real hp gain unless I wail on a tanky mob
>but I'm practically invincible against deacons
they really need to buff these "continued attacks" effect.

>>147633227
Chaos Bed Vestiges and the biggest heal you can use, put most of your estus as ashen. Once you get some rings pyro trivializes the game.

>>147635673
>>147635692
Favor is more valuable, as long as you can free aim you'll be fine

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>>147635243
after losing 100 HP swap life+3 to sage+2

>>147632829
Xbow is great to catch chuggers with a sliver of hp left

>>147635739
Probably gonna do a bestoc build, it's been a good weapon since demons souls so why not?

>tfw using farron greatsword for the first time
>keep getting parried
>just spam jumping attacks instead of the anime spin combo
>most people give up when they only have one hp left and im free to whily twirly their ass to death

lmao i fucking hate parryfags. why even bother?

>>147635504
Eh ill go with them. Need a challenge from somewhere

>>147635861
>Favor is more valuable
Is this theorycrafting? Post your pyro build in game

>>147635951
Then you should start with assassin. It comes with the bestoc plus spook which is fall control on steroids.

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>>147635907
>14 dex

>>147635917
they are godly for catching people in general, especially manually-aimed exploding bolts

>>147635861
also the last 2 spells can be swapped to whatever, Chaos Bed, Warmth, or drop them completely and switch rings

>>147635994
Why doesn't it have a running r2? Is this just a mistake?

>>147635684
Dark Souls 3 is very good about the helmet selection, especially if you want to find ones with good visors.

I personally like the Lothric Knight helm a lot.

Cloth physics+atmospheric areas with dust and shit flowing in the breeze+flappy clothes = perfection.

>>147635907
>12 end
>69% roll

>>147635646
will do, thanks

>>147636087
>tfw we finally get to see Silver Knight's cardboard cape to finally flap in the wind

>>147636045
sage+2 adds so much virtual dex for casting you won't ever need it and i advise to swap onto it after losing life ring hp bonus
and locks are shit

>>147635907
>12 END
I'll pass

>>147635917
>Xbow is great to catch chuggers with a sliver of hp left

Yeah, but as a main source of damage not so much.

>>147635191
>>147636003
Mercenary scimitars.

>>147636076
Because it was rushed and thrust out the door unfinished.
The L1 was originally going to be the WA but it's actually L1 moveset is cut, unfinished, and left in the game files so they just broke up the WA and moved it to the L1s.

It has no running L1 or R2 because it's an unfinished moveset full of oversights.

>>147635191
Brigand Daggers are great fun until you face a laggy GS user

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>>147636190
>locks are shit

iron flesh + dark hand on noobies is just too much fun

>>147636148
>>147636207
12 end is more than enough for everything you would ever do as a pyro, especially when using a light weapon and spite kiting people with fire surge instead of being aggressive

>>147635675
What resin do i use

>>147636274
You can't be serious? Unfinished weapons ingame is real lazy.

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>>147636190
>and locks are shit

>>147636420
F I Y U H

>>147636404
Pure theorycrafting.

>>147636190
locks are great for catching rolls if they start faking out your spells

>>147635907
doest pyro softcap at int+faith = 60 ?

>>147636404
have fun against anyone not retarded that reads your rolls then punishes them since you can't roll spam

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>>147636350
>>147636436
>barely 150 damage per SLOW AS SHIT 1hr1
>the only way to ever use it is by spamming WA and hoping your opponent is batshit retarded

>>147636373
>tfw you 2 shot phantoms

Thank you limit breakers

>>147636420
>>147636509
this or lightning. I don't know if aldy is innately more weak to one than the other

Fextra is pretty shit but the listed boss weaknesses are accurate

>>147636658
You actually one-shot them. Once you do the grab attack they're done for

Is there anyone left in this general that isn't stupid or did they all leave when the game went mainstream?

>>147636762
I need my second dark hand for that. But I'm even more hyped now that you've said that

>>147636609
The rolling attack and r2s are good too.
That's at least 3 attacks unlike the Carbonated Coon Syrups 2h r1 only

>>147636836
Neck yourself.

>>147636578
do you even realize how much rolls you can throw even at base endurance?
do you even realize that fire surge costs no end?

>>147636964
No need to get offended by the truth

>>147636762
>tfw you have a 15SL character only for this named "the raper"

>>147636836
>youre still here

you are being stupid of your own accord I suppose?

>>147636043
Sounds pretty great, what rings are must-haves in this game?

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>>147636182
Probably one of the most satisfying moments in the games is walking slowly up a big flight of stairs, killing a knight with a parry, watch their ragdoll tumble down the stairs and slow walk past them while your cape flaps in the wind.

After all these years, I am finally become an anime.

What's the best weapon for Stronk Build in PvE

>>147636965
you're not just going to be rolling buddy
also its 'how many rolls' not 'how much rolls' friendo

>>147637150
_______ss_______

>>147636965
>everyone and their mom can outplay you because of high end
>one cast eat most of your end
Post webms of your 12end pyro duels.

>>147636836
>when the game went mainstream?
What, you mean like in 2011 ?

>>147637150
Bigger weapons fall off in NG+ and beyond due to your damage/stamina efficiency compared to the enemy's inflated hp. You'd do better with something like a Heavy Broadsword over Yhorm's the further you go.

>>147637053
You could explain what changed that made the general so shitty rather than whine like a wankstain

>>147637150
Claymore, Greatsword UGS, Broadsword, Cathedral Knight UGS

>>147637280
I mean after Pewdiepie played the game.

>/dsg/ thinks locks are good
just another day in this shithole

>>147637085
There's actually quite a lot of useful rings. Here are some examples:

Life Ring(starting gift and can be bought later)
Cloranthy Ring
Havel's Ring
Ring of Favor
+5 Stat Rings for Dex/Str/Fai/Int
Prisoner's Chain
Carthus Milk/Bloodrings
Estus/Ashen Estus Ring

>>147637350
no

>>147637395
Are you from /v/?

>>147637417
not an argument

>>147637467
glad we can agree locks are shit and this general is full of shitters

>>147637395
2013?
A year after /vg/ was even created?

>>147637395
Are you 12?

>>147637427
Clutch rings (for pve)
Hornet Ring
12/20% Damage rings for Miracles, Pyromancies, and Sorceries
Sage Ring
Sun Princess Ring

>>147637558
You're an idiot. Greentexting "locks are bad" isn't an argument. I wasn't agreeing with you.

>>147637417
>trying into logical fallacy
wew

So what's a good weapon to flame infuse in Das2? Gonna respec into a pyro to fuck up Lewd and Zallen.

Locks will not hit anyone with a functioning brain. Therefore, it will hit 99.9% of the dark souls 3 fanbase. There, stupidity is viable, so locks also are.

>>147637417
>reddit crossposter shits up our general with pvp opinions despite not pvping

it's actually sad how much this happens

>>147637620
Well, I didn't want it to be exhaustive. But thanks for covering me anon.

>>147637673
Possessed Sword

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>>147637558
Witch's Locks are good.
You're just bad or got destroyed by someone with them.

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>tfw no heysel feet to play with

Do I get fast or medium rolls with exactly 30% equip load?

>>147637453
>>147637559
>>147637575
>missing the point

>>147637085
>Sounds pretty great, what rings are must-haves in this game?
Cloranthy, Hornet, Carthus rolling ring and Estus ring.

>>147637758
i've never lost to them

>>147637783
Fast.

>>147637783
Fatrolls.

Exactly 30% equipload is a fast roll, but an invisible 30.05 is a midroll.

>>147637835
Thank you for admitting to being bad.
Accepting that is the first step to gitting gud.

>>147637783
yes, but the game rounds down, so if you're 30.01%, you'll be midrolling while the menu says you should be fastrolling

>>147637783
Fast. I think this also factors tents of percentages into account, you need 30.0 and not 30.5

>>147637929
? except i've never lost to a witch's locks player ever because they're free wins

>>147635907

>12 end

Already dead.

>>147637798
That you're a moron?

Im having great fun and decent success in pvp with a heavy giant club.
Was all this meta drama overstated?

>>147637783
30% exactly is a fastroll, but it cuts off some decimal points so most of the time you're at 30%, you're probably actually at 30.001% and midrolling

It's better to just aim for 29.something and not have to deal with invisible decimals and rounding bullshit.

>>147637726
Let's duel
>inb4: backpedalling
>inb4: bloodring roll reactivepaly

>>147637798
There's no real point to what you're trying to make here. Caring about the "muh normies" is pretty immature, especially after Bloodborne which avoided the normiepandering trap that Dark Souls 2 marketing and part of the game design (u will die so much HUEHUEHUE :DD cutscene) fell to. The games are pretty much the same with or without the "normie influence", except that DS3 probably hadn't been made if FromSoft didn't make a break with Dark Souls 1.

>>147638019
Post a video of you winning at all with your sick 12 end pyromancy build, I'll wait.

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dickhole pee
pump her rump

>>147638064
Meta doesn't really matter that much, it's not a real competitive game.
If you enjoy braining people with that club, you get good at it.

>>147638191
wasn't even talking about your shitty pyro build

>>147637757
>>147637620
>>147637427
Damn i have a lot of research to do to really optimize that build. I think i'll stick to aesthetics and respec later. Can you do that in ds3 like you can in 2?

>>147637395
>pewdiepie
I watched a few of his Bloodborne DLC videos and he said it's absolute favorite game, yet I don't see a huge jump in the game's popularity after that. So your point is invalid.

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>>147638207

>>147638342
yes you can

why dont you start here first https://www.mugenmonkey.com/darksouls3

Lorian's Ultragreatsword looks so awesome, redpill me on taking this through ng+

>buff activates on stomp, no swing required
>lasts 45 seconds
>simple regen is enough to keep the buff up constantly

>>147638321
>your
please dont ever associate yourself with me
post a video of you winning at all, to an npc phantom even, to the high wall darkwraith if you're truly desperate

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>>147638321
Anon, your poor speech pattern is pretty recognizable

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>>147638064
Poise is nonexistent so no, it's not.
But success in Dark Souls pvp is more about being comfortable with your weapons' moveset and being able to use the environment than a straight up numbers game.

>>147638512
>>147638537
i play master race refined and hollow not shitty pyro builds that only work against fetuses

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Does anyone on ps4 want to share their Wolf Knight Greatshield? I'll save scum and give it back if you need it.

>>147638178
Thinking that the infestation of regular people didn't have a huge effect on this general is borderline retarded. Sure, that fucking tripfag has pretty much always been here, but I remember a time when people actually knew what they were talking about. Of course that isn't the entire reason behind the huge decline in quality on 4chan as a whole, one of the biggest issues is the fact that people spam memes regardless of where they are and it destroy most discussion.

>>147638064

Most people are terrible at the game.

>>147638603
>master race
>hollow
im sure
gonna post that video someday or do we have to duel in game so i can dunk on you

>>147638207
I can't fap to this, it's too cute.

>>147638498
It stomps the earlygame because everything is weak to fire
There's not many fire-resistant enemies in the game, but it's goddamn worthless against them
Yhorm is 100% immune to fire so it's shit against him.
Aldrich is weak against fire so it fucks him right up.

Otherwise it's just a generic UGS with slightly less reach. Good against every enemy weak to fire but shitty against ones with high elemental defense.

>>147638729
i don't have time to duel vs bads :)

>>147633931
They often didn't hype some characters enough, such as any non-LoC besides pontiff and, until Golem, every enemy but Quelaag is just there.

You also forgot watcher/defender, though I don't blame you.

>>147638708
>i remeber a time when people actually knew what they were talking about
no you're just delusional
that has never been the cast
the ds3 meta is still developing and the dlc isn't even out yet so 95% of people are just theorycrafting

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>>147638824
Low tier backpedalling.

>>147638817
I thought Yhorm was only immune to fire in his embered phase.

>>147638112
where do you live? Will not bother if you have australia or china lag

>>147638872
There are people in this general right now that lack the ability to compare numbers which is literally all you need to do to make any build efficient.

>>147638970
not backpedaling i just value my time

>>147639010
EU. Post speedtest

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>>147638708
>Thinking that the infestation of regular people didn't have a huge effect on this general is borderline retarded.

I'd rather have the normies than people like the 4Kingsanon

Which reminds me, how was the general during DS3 launch ? I left a few days before the Jap launch so I wouldn't get spoiled.

Did /bbg/ migrate here? Were there console wars?

>>147639104
>EU
I'm south american. Can't happen without latency.

>>147639084
That's why you shitpost here for one hour?

>>147639001
That'd be kinda pointless.
No, he's 100% immune to fire. Numbers don't even show up when you hit him.

Worth noting that none of the LoC change their defenses in phase 2, despite visibly looking like they have fire-affinity. Abysswatchers take normal damage from fire in both phases, and Aldrich is weak to it in both phases.

>>147639042
And there have always been, what the fuck are you getting at?
Not much has changed besides DS3 coming out and shitbirds like 4kings shitposter being gone.

>>147638598
Poise exists as a mechanic that benefits hyper armor.

The fact that how it works has changed, does not mean it does not exist

>>147639237
haven't even been posting for more than 10 minutes

>DaS1 had a spider with an attractive woman's upper body
>DaS2 had a scorpion with an ugly woman's upper body
>DaS3 has a slug with a crossdressing man's upper body.
What's next?

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>>147639301
>poise exists

>>147639414
Attractive spider upper body with an ugly crossdressing man's lower body

>>147639228
Where is all pyros from south american?

>>147639276
>And there have always been, what the fuck are you getting at?
In much fewest numbers. 4chan as a whole is pretty terrible now and there's no other place to go unless you want to wait a day in between replies.

>>147639414
Speaking of spiders, we don't have a spider boss in DaS3 yet even though DeS, DaS1, DaS2 and BB all have one. I hope they add a spidey boss in the DLC.

>>147639414
wait who's the slug?

>>147639558
I also have a pyro build. Didn't enjoy locks damage that much so I put all those points into vigor.

>>147639492
0.1 poise activate HA for GS, halberds
0.1 poise activate HA for 90% WA.
It's works :^

>>147639629
What is BB's spider boss?

>>147639712
Amy and Rom

>>147639601
>is pretty terrible now
>now
you really are delusional
there have always been normies and retards
judging by your posts you probably belong to the latter

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>>147634209
I've convinced the DS3 DLC will not top this majesty.

>>147639601
discord?

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>>147639601
>4chan as a whole is pretty terrible now
>now
Spotted the newfag.

>>147639654
Aldritch?

>>147639414
DaS 4 will have a cockroach with Chris-chan's upper body.

>>147639492
>>147639701
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3v3fi804W0I
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RDYc2Af2yr8&t=0s

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>>147635907

>12 end

They literally nerfed the obscuring ring?

>>147639654
aldritch acted out his vore fantasy on gwyndolin, and when you fight him in anor londo he's using him as his upper half

>>147638824
I did not realize this FGG.

>>147639863
>>147639963
Aldritch is literally an ooze though

Gonna use the Wolf Knight Greatshield for an upcoming build but don't wanna slog through Farron Invasions. What's the best way to farm swordgrass and could I get an estimate of the time investment needed to get 30?

>>147639896
>taking ten minutes out of my life to watch someone miss the point about how rats can stunlock you to death when you're wearing Havel's

>>147639923
yes, they literally nerfed the obscuring rin

>>147639896
>two hits stunlock
>5R1 6R1
This is autistic

>>147640101
SoA, Covetous and CSR
Keep Ruins, kill the three ghru
Took me 2 hours in NG+ (I also had Covetous+1 but still)

>>147640105
It's quite simple, really. The armor weighs way more than you do. If you can walk with it, a single push will make you fall. If you can't walk with it, then you should be immovable.

>>147638496
https://www.mugenmonkey.com/darksouls3/53183

Did i do good? I saw some funny soul stream hijinks earlier so i wanted some meme invading potential in there

>>147640201
2 hours isn't completely awful I guess. Especially since the farming run is so easy. I'll just put some music on, thanks for the help.

>>147640117
And how bad is it? The patch notes are useless as always. I saw someone not even being fully invisible but I hope that was just the first person I ever met that used hidden body in PvP

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>>147640217
>taking ten minutes out of my life to watch someone miss the point about how rats can stunlock you to death when you're wearing Masters'

>bringing realism and DaS into one universe in the first place

>>147640381
Hey, i'm not the one complaining about being staggered in full armor.

>>147639923
miyazaki is a shitter who thinks invaders and invasions should be little more than slightly more interesting pve obstacles so he's been doing literally everything in his power to make them weakass shits, hence why they removed unveil but has it cast automatically for bluemoons
>>147640054
yeah but he's an ooze sporting a hot trap on his upper half

>>147639923
Nerf did nothing. Still works like clock

>>147640149
It's to demonstrate how large your poise 'pool' is, and to demonstrate how much you can trade.

That being said, poise is extraordinarily underpowered and it should be buffed.

Poise was a completely stupid mechanic in DS1 and you nostalgiafaggots need to let it fucking die. It's dead, gone, and it will NEVER come back.

Good riddance.

>>147640290
im really confused what the point of this build is

Just go quality imo

>>147640461
Sure. It's not like three 60int password summoned mages with 45dex use obscuring ring for farming invaders. Oh, wait...

>>147640436
No, you're the one telling me that that is fine, which is total bullshit.

>>147640556
problem is there is pretty much 0 benefit to wearing heavy armors other than fashion, and everything weighs so fucking much you cant even do that without having to dump valuable skill points into fucking vit

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>>147640556
>Poise was a completely stupid mechanic in DS1
>he enjoyed getting stunlocked to death by rats in 5-1

>>147636274
That's a lie anon, that was actually just some edition to give Farron an unused paired weapon(not tracers) moveset.

>>147640740
It is fine, It's not like you can get staggered forever. You could in dark souls 1, so there it made sense.

>>147640756
Full Havel's and 40 Vit is almost 30% less damage taken than 10 vit and Dancer's

You have to sacrifice damage for durability anon. Tradeoffs.

Looks like OnlyAfro is continuing his ds3 playthrough after
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hk-jJV96K5I

>>147640556
The point was to
A) look cute
B) be able to meme invade, hide, then oneshot people
C) beat the game with a decent weapon

>>147640943
only because of mass dislikes on his overwatch content but now it's too late for him to go back to dark souls 3

Was ds2 poise good?

>>147639492
black holes exist. Just because they have little to zero bearing on the experience of our lives or the way we live them doesn't make them suddenly nonexistent

>>147640969
Yeah it used to work but not so much anymore.

Sorcery is in an okay place right now, just go 120 and use homing soulmass, Farron Hail, Farron Dart, and Crystal Hail. You'll get some kills.

Eventually.

>>147640905
dumping those points into vig is infinitely more valuable

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>>147640556
There's no point in wearing armor otherwise since the damage reduction is utterly minimal.
>heaviest armor in the game nets you like 30% damage reduction across the board
>T H I R T Y
>at the cost of a zillion equip load fuckery to be at all mobile AND your fastroll i-frames and range
There's no way to tank here. This is Dark Souls. The dodgeroll is always the most important tool, surrendering that is not viable in any way.

>>147641084
>only because of mass dislikes on his overwatch content
but why?
is overwatch terrible?

>>147640943
>wearing the huelmet
dont ever post here

>>147640461
why is miyazaki responsible for invasion shit? as far as I know, the invader shitting started in DS2 with noflask, no interactive stage pieces because """balance""", introduction of seeds, and literally the worst grind in these games for red covenant rank 3 which gave you a shitty spell.
A lot of people from DS2 are working on this game.

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>>147641121
I agree.

So you take points out of something less useful, such as

>>147640105
>doesn't have hyper armor because hes not swinging to one shot silly little rat
>doesn't benefit from poise
>waaaaa poise doesnt work the way it used to now I can't fight rats

really?

>>147641109

No, still better than ds3 poise.

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why do people keep changing the op
this is the original op isnt it

>>147641118
Don't forget your Darkmoon Ring and 40 attunement so you can use all the good spells.

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>>147640943
>OnlyAfro
Jesus, it's been some time since they posted here.

Did every tripfag besides Lucifer leave the general?

>>147641264
because memequeens expect nothing but dark souls 'content' from him after he started giantdad and shit
some dude who made tf2 videos switched to overwatch and 99% of comments on his videos are asking for tf2 vids

>>147640943
>autistic NEET weeb trash

didn't last a minute

>>147641415
The other one is Luci's OP. He posts it early (often by over a hundred posts) with his trip off to try and hijack the OP, and whines to the mods on IRC if a real thread with the proper OP is made at the appropriate time because his was "made first"
If you see Bloodborne in the OP, report it and the post linking to it.

>>147641659
could you explain what made the giantdad set so popular

i'm completely out of the loop; was it just a meme set to wear or did it break pvp

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>>147641135
Just to picture this
>a naked man and a man in full Havels get slashed with a dagger
>the man in Havels took 30% less deep a wound than the naked man

W H A T

Heavy armor should give you a flat damage reduction to the numbers. Like, Havels should just shave 100 damage off of an attack, then apply the percentage reduction. If you have a weapon that does less than 100 damage you exclusively scratch the armor and damage its durability but do no HP damage.

>>147641584
Who wants to be in this shithole all the time? only Lucy.
Can't blame anyone who left.