/vn/ - All Ages Edition

i came here to ask about subahibi, last thing i heard was that it was getting an official translation and that was almost 6 months ago

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Are visual novel readers the most entitled people in existence?

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Sora a cute!

>>147566851
Try asking again in a year.

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>>147566582
How dare you! Anyway, reminder that everyone should learn grammar and kanji on the side!! Even if it takes 3 years it'll be faster than Dovac giving us the 18+ patches

>>147567058
That was fucking hilarious.

>>147566859
It's not something exclusive to VN readers. PC players as a whole are the most entitled community there is.

>>147567058
Dat karma

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>>147567058
Don't forget that 4chan made Chuablesoft partner with MG instead of Dovac. We can do anything if we so desire

>>147566859
If you don't agree with me then you're entitled.

>>147566917
Why is she so fat?

>>147567345
At least his avatar is cute.

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Moogy-dono

>>147567992
He is so wise

>>147567992
That Neil guy is a retard. The whole deal with censorship is we can't impregnate the girls anymore. Suou Amane is a slut and deserves a good pounding.

What are your thoughts on the translated Seinarukana? Worth the buy?

>>147566859
If you translate a game, don't remove or edit content. And if you do for whatever reason, offer an unedited version (or patch, or what not) in a timely fashion. This isn't really rocket science, people are willing to forgive a lot if you respect the community and their wishes. I'd think wanting an original and not something that has been arbitrarily changed to meed someone elses standard is a pretty normal desire. If that's considered being entitled, then so be it.

Sekai's issue from the very beginning is that they dismiss a lot of the fan base as being 'entitled', and hence not worth appealing to. At times it becomes outright contempt for a lot of the opinions people seem to have. And then Sekai has the gall to pretend to be shocked that people would be upset with them after "all they've done to elevate the state of visual novels".

>>147567992
For me it's just a very real part of the relationship that I want to see. Not to mention I just can't support censorship at all.

>>147568406
Game of the year so far. Though I've only played that and Haruka thus far

>>147568345
>we can't impregnate the girls anymore. Suou Amane is a slut and deserves a good pounding.
That's basically what he's saying. Its not that people care about the story, it's that people care about sexual gratification.
>>147568435
>If you translate a game, don't remove or edit content.
"No"

>>147566582
I like lolis ;)

>>147568570
Yes and I'm not pretending I'm holding off on Grisaia because the story was butched or something I want the lewdness

Thank you based Dovac for protecting innocent lolis.

>>147568546
Thanks, ZTD was a bit of a letdown, Root Double is being aite. Though I think I'd like to play Aselia before Seinarukana

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>>147568913
Why protect Lolis if they're 18+ already. Let me sodomize them all already!

>>147569039
>Though I think I'd like to play Aselia before Seinarukana
Uh yeah play the first game before playing the sequel
??
iumademonai hazu dakedo

http://www.strawpoll.me/10675036
It's currently on a tie so I'm posting it again, please don't shout at me!

>>147568874
Half the fucking story was sex jokes, the game could be one step from a nukige with a few tweaks here and there.

I haven't actually cared enough to read the "all-ages" version but I could bet my ass amane and makina's lines had to be heavily edited to get it under the all ages bar.

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>>147569039
Yuuri is the cutest killer.

If Dies Irae gets announced is it better than Baldr Sky?

>>147567992
He is right in the usual obnoxious manchild Moogy fashion (complete with strawman, thanks Moogy), but he's missing the point here. The point isn't about the ero scenes in and of themselves, a lot of them are, as he says, pretty bad. The point is that there's censorship at all. No one wants this to be a normalized occurrence. Not to mention that content other than H-scenes has been removed in all-ages versions, so to imply that there isn't more at stake here is to be intellectually dishonest. It is a slippery slope, especially considering that companies like Sekai and AkabeiSoft2 are trying to sell the 18+ content as DLC.

For things like moege especially I think the H content is important. Those are basically relationship simulators through and through, and people want to explore every nook and cranny of the relationships while reading those, including the sex. It's maybe not the best comparison but look at romance novels; those are full of fucking. You don't see people actively trying to censor those and they're quite popular with college aged students.

>>147569169
There's barely a connection from what I hear though. At Jast's booth they even said something similar iirc

>>147569273
Dies Irae is the better novel but Baldr Sky is the better game.

>>147569169
I thought it was only a spiritual sequel but yeah, I will

>>147569273
No. If something gets translated it's automatically shit because I can't feel special anymore.

>>147569273
Much better. Baldr Sky is a good game, but the story isn't absolutely amazing. Its more fun to play than read.

>>147569273
They both become kusoge the second they're translated into english.

Are the H scenes necessary in Dies Irae?
What version would be best for them to localize?

>>147569273
Dies Irae is untranslatable. Don't touch it and don't think about localizing it, let it be pure and free from western people

>>147569305
These games (well, aside from maitetsu) are being censored because Steam doesn't allow certain content. Games like Gahkthun which had porn that didn't go against Steam were allowed. BTW, what is "allowed" on steam is largely determined by the ESRB (no adult content is allowed in games w/o ESRB rating) so take up your beef with them.
>>147569470
The best version of dies is largely agreed to be Amantes Amentes, which is all ages. That's how little the porn matters.
>>147569573
Dies Irae is roughly translatable (See conjueror's tl'd videos) but it'll be a completely different beast in english for sure.

>>147569573
Conjueror and Makoto are the only two who could do it.

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>>147569232
it's just a fucking Vita port it isn't like they went out of their way to change anything else that isn't allowed by CERO

>>147569681
Yes, yes. I know that. And I don't have a problem with all-ages being on steam, but what needs to be ensured is that the 18+ version is also available at the same time. Not months down the line and certainly not as paid DLC.

>>147569437
Dies Irae just sounds like power level chuuni garbage. I don't understand how it can have a good "story"

>>147569847
I'm still not reading it until I get to fuck Mitcher.

>>147569914
If it's like Tokyo Babel I'm taking my own life. The good side is the world will be a better place

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>>147569957
fucking retards not allowed
kissing is though

>>147569957
Mitcher is love but it seems she's gone full retard on the sequel. They retconned her whole route or something and now the other girl was an illusion and she never does clever things to keep the group together and shit

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>>147569914
You'll be surprised, I know I was.

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>Grisaia posting

>>147569914
it is very philosophical and it has tons of german wanking.

>>147570635
>that lego block in the middle

I unironically love Michiru.

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>>147569039
>ZTD was a bit of a letdown
>a bit

>>147570876
Would you die for her?

>>147570635
He needs to get laid. Also, does he prefer one of those wimpy protags that are pushed around by everyone? At least Yuuji dictates the story

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>>147571120
ungodly amount of complex memes, anon

>>147571141
No, but I'd kill my pet cat if she asks me to.

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god damn this girl is adorable. Her laughter and that VA as well as the cutesy bits are too much.

>>147571486
This is one moege/w/e I'd like to try but I've heard the translator didn't know much kanji and made up some parts of the story

>>147571705
wouldn't know but so far its been great.

>>147571705
there's a number of notable ones I can count on one-hand, none of them impact the story in any notable way though. nothing important is lost in translation.

Qoo little-little for mvp.

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>>147571896
Thats not Putin's maid.

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>>147571940

>>147572161
I think you might be gay anon

>>147572161
>big cock
>not the girl being tiny

Why can't we all die for a change

>>147572161
IS
THAT
A
FUCKING
NIPPLE

>>147572315
Everyone dies, anon.

>>147572135
Real talk? Why does Kuon not get a route? Not in the main game or in the fan disc, that pissed me off so much.

>>147572412
I would have loved her to replace Ran-chan in terms of routes.

>>147572161

i remember seeing this in the thp too. i laughed my fucking ass off.

Remember to complain in Twitter for the 18+ version of Baldr Sky.

>>147573102
Watch out, dovac will block you on twitter if you hurt his feelings.

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god fucking dammit.

Well played game, well played.

>>147573679
God remains dead. And we have killed him

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>>147574363
Cry your heart out Nietzsche

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I like to think that I have a pretty healthy suspension of disbelief, but this VN is just dumb. Pretty much every character is a cunt, the drama is awful, and the art is kinda strange.

Mild Koichoco spoilers in the image.

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What did she mean by this?

>>147575229
That you're her cuckboy

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>>147575229
that the jews are behind this

>>147571940
I DON'T EVEN UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE SAYING.

Seriously, I need that in .wav.

>>147566859
This is just like the AAA game devs from 3-5 years ago. Any time you criticize them you are entitled. But they act as if theyre entitled to your purchase regardless of what product they put out.

The thing is I can get their product without paying, but they can't get my money without me buying their product. Brings some joy to my shriveled heart every time I pirate one of their games.

>>147578084
> From 3-5 years ago.
> Not from right now.

I escaped this censorship bullshit from Atlus, Nintendo and others only to fall into the same trap in my final super niche refuge - visual novels.

Fuck, how does cute girls doing cute things get widespread enough appeal to have that happen? Fuck.

>>147578303
Nothin to do with being widespread m8. It's just got to do with laws and shit. If selling 18+ games were as legally simple as all ages then this wouldn't even be a topic.

>>147578395
localizations were a mistake

>>147578395
Except we never had or have this issue with MG or JAST. It's just Sekai Shitject taking a donkey shit on the entire media.

>>147578395
in good ol' AMURRICA town, so long as it's not actual CP or hyper realistic drawings of it, it's A-Okay.

>>147578395
Weird how those laws only regularly affect SP and not MG/JAST?

>>147578492
Well, the problem is that they basically need to sell on Steam to keep themselves afloat--along with the Kickstarters. I think they're too deep in at this point that they probably wouldn't be able to do anything else even if they wanted to. Their company has yet to have a single profitable year and the steam bucks is probably what kinda-sorta keeps them going.

I'm sure that being on Steam is probably a desirable option for Japanese producers as well due to the higher sales figures that steam nets, simply by being on the front page for a bit.

I really, really hate Sekai. But it's a complex situation and the blame can go in many different directions. They aren't SOLELY to blame for everything, I'm sure.

>>147578820
You forgot that MG is in Canada and they've done lolige, and we have far more strict laws than the US when it comes to pornography.

Literally zero excuse.

>>147578910
Isn't MG based in Japan? The President is also the President of Overdrive..

>>147578492
>Except we never had or have this issue with MG or JAST.
Jast literally had this exact issue with censoring Shiny Days recently
Manga Gamer isn't stationed in the USA so it's irrelevant to his question.
>>147578820
Seriously, what's with you guys and bringing up MG it just makes you look silly.
>>147578739
Most people are upset about Maitetsu. Sekai didn't really have a reputation as a censorship company until the all-ages Maitetsu fiasco, after all they released Nekopara with lewd. And, maitetsu's problem is indeed the young ages of the characters as you mentioned.

>>147578910
>MG is in Canada
kek no.

>>147570635
I remember reposting this pasta with a magnet full of CP
Nice times

>>147578910
And Doddler got to spend a night in prison and officially registered as a sex offender for his trouble.

>>147578820
Actually MG recently had some issues with a payment processor for Beat Blades Haruka, IIRC.

>>147579062
That had nothing to do with mangagamer.

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>>147578873
The reason why they haven't had a single profitable year is because dovac is the worst businessman on planet Earth and pays out the asshole for everything. He isn't content with middle-of-the-line moege or shopping around/rejecting expensive games, it's either Majikoi-tier big names or shitty OELVNs.

Worse yet, their reputation just gets worse day after day, especially with dovac being a constant buttmonkey and consumer support with their loyal customers are dwindling.

SP is to blame for everything, if not presently, for getting into that situation in the first place through dovac's management. I'm completely serious when I say you could have put ANY reasonable fan of VNs just graduating high school in charge of Sekai Project as they were just launching and they'd make the company into a profitable industry leader while not raping their own market on Steam.

They had a stupidly great position, and they fucking blew it by managing it beyond terribly. It takes a certain type of talent to take a situation like that and make it so dire.

>>147579062
That was because he imported an onahole that had lolis on the cover. I think he got pulled off the sex offender list.

>>147579215
I know, but it is true and if I bring it up in the debate it sounds like it's countering the other person's point even though it's completely unrelated.

>>147579060
Din't it even fucking get archived too?
DID ANYBODY REPORT THAT?

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>>147579090
No, that was because their payment processor dropped them from the Steam fraud way back when, so they had to hastily get a new processor.

It had nothing to do with trying to sell BBH through that avenue.

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>>147579062
for real?

>>147579024
>Sekai didn't really have a reputation as a censorship company until the all-ages Maitetsu fiasco
That's not true. That shitposting has been around for a long time. There are numerous other titles in progress that they've been very vague on in regards to 18+ versions, and they've been notorious for delaying 18+ versions and putting the all-ages first. They also had that fiasco with Yohjo Simulator, which, while reasonable considering the material in question, still caused a lot of public outcry (see their comment section on their public apology for the "problematic" content)

This, aside with the fact that their employees and the CEO are constantly barraging 18+ content and those who desire it, makes for a difficult situation in which one seems to think that the company are uninterested in providing this content, or are grudgingly going along with it, and, when you have delays on the 18+ patches, and other games not receiving 18+ patches at all, one also cannot help but wonder whether or not they pushed for it to receive 18+ content with the publisher, or failed the bring it up entirely. Of course most of this is conjecture as we cannot simply know all which goes behind closed doors, but this is my impression after having followed Sekai for years and having kept up with their various employees.

>>147579024
There's no issue with young characters, they can be 3 getting their ass pounded here in america, so long as it's not literal CP or hyper-realistic (as in intentionally made to look like real cp) it's A-OK to release, no worries about the FBI or anything.

>>147579024
> Sekai didn't really have a reputation as a censorship company until the all-ages Maitetsu fiasco

This is literally flat-out false. We've been saying it a long time.

Ok, but really, MG, when are you going to make your site less eye-bleeding?

>>147579772
I like it because it's normieproof. Might not be good for them though

>>147579667
This is actually not true and it varies state by state. Looking at loli is as illegal as looking at the real thing in some states.

Anyone know if you would still get the bgm collection if you get the hardcopy of euphoria now? It says it was a preorder bonus only, but it's only been 4 days since it came out.

>>147579964
This. But it's barely enforced anywhere. I honestly can't say I've heard of any enforcement period and I live in one of the supposed "danger" zones.

>>147579964
Those laws are most likely unconstitutional under the first amendment.

>>147580192
>he can't do both at the same time

>>147580161
The social stigma against pedophilia means good fuckin' luck winning that case.

>>147579024
I am curious as to why SP is based in America though, but then I'm not a lawyer so I don't know how difficult it would be

>>147579964
>>147580090
1: last I checked (4 years ago) it's "legal" due to it being considered "Fine art"
2: If it was illegal, They can't exactly enforce it since it would PROMOTE actual child pedophilia, since you'd be tagging them exactly the same as a sex offender, there'd be no reason for them not to have sex with actual children.

Food for thought.

>>147580261
Dovac lives here

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>>147580235
>implying we don't have contacts in the government
see Robert Morrow

I K I K O I
K
I
K
O
I

>>147580235
The problem is that it's such a grey area. Fucking Japan calls Yukikaze a "loli" and she has fatass thighs and child-bearing hips, as do a lot of other "lolis". Some of the lolis in Maitetsu have pretty large butts that you literally cannot associate with a child.

>>147580279
>you'd be tagging them exactly the same as a sex offender, there'd be no reason for them not to have sex with actual children

They tag you as a sex offender so you can't do that.

Dovac man, you look like all food you've eaten for the past decade has been laced with AIDS

You look like shit man, like an asian version of Malcolm gladwell

>>147580448
Well she is one compared to the other Taimanin chicks

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>>147580424
What the fuck

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>>147580507
say that to my face nigger

>>147580663
it's fake dumbass

>>147580767
No it's not. It's real. Go to his twitter. Pages and pages of animeshit

>>147580449
That sure as hell didn't stop my father. I can promise you that.

>>147580767
https://twitter.com/RobMorroLiberty?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw
You sure about that?

>>147580663
oh god he lives in my county. holy fuck

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>>147580663
the guy is a shitposting machine
>>147580767
it's not fake. Look up articles about him

>>147580663
>He says the three-pointed jester's hat he wears represents three covered-up murders by U.S. politicians.
My sides

>>147580867
He's the most powerful Republican in your county mane

>>147580751
Not Dovac. That's Dovac's employee.
see >>147567345 right side for Dovac

vn newfag here. Out of curiosity why is everyone excited over Baldr Sky rather them localizing Baldr Force instead?

Is the Sky series more popular, or just better production values over Force?

ANYONE GOT PICS OF SAYORI?

>>147580235
even if you can win something like that the damage will be done, if it gets Rapelay tier media attention

>>147580792
>>147580830
>>147580876
I assumed the twitter was fake, but apparently he's actually that autistic.

>>147581091
Force is a way worse game

>>147581174
I bet he posts here

>>147581056
Dovac looks like a walking corpse. He looks like he could die at any minute

>>147581091
No one excited over the Sekai kikes releasing it though

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>>147581285
Yeah, I think he's got anorexia or something

>>147581192
Ah I see. I played it way the fuck long ago due to cool looking robot/mechs whatever the fuck they are.

Fast forward many years and I see this announcement and was wondering about Force.

>>147566582
Loli censorship is the norm, loli isn't remotely tolerated in the west, pretty much back to pre-2002 days

> Tfw you literally can't wait for a VN/movie/episode/etc. to come out so you just constantly rewatch the trailers/episodes.

Help me.

>>147580235
Wouldn't be hard, this was already a supreme court case so by federal law, any such laws outright banning loli are invalid and cannot be enforced, the same way sodomy laws cannot be enforced anymore.

Ignore supreme court decisions at your own peril. Government employees have gone to prison over it.

How much would SP pay for an in house personal trainer/nutritionist? Dovac and that fatty that also works there seriously need some help. I'd let them pay me in unfulfilled kickstarter rewards if that would help.

>>147581768
an just what VN/movie/episode/etc. are we talking about here

>>147581124
nothing a high capacity rifle and a crowded place can't fix. Or a suicide bombing with a claim of being oppressed. You get enough people doing that and suddenly you force change because people start asking themselves. "Is wondering about what this person does in their free time worth my life? Nope".
Actually that plan is currently working extremely well, with the whole South Park Muhammad ordeal being a pretty good example where someone "hinted" at a potential bombing if they release the episode uncensored. Comedy Central caved and refused to release the uncensored version ANYWHERE. Even on physical bluray/dvd. Someone did eventually pull it from the website before it was deleted off the network and posted it as a torrent, so the only way to get an uncensored copy of that episode is illegally.

Not to mention, any non-exploitative art is considered legal in US law. (Source: minored in criminal justice)

>>147582406
it's more like the Japanese won't want to do business anymore, I heard it was Rapelay was one of the things that made the Japanese block off foreign access to just even their sites

>>147582935
mostly just illusion

>>147582935
If they refuse to do business, then we just do fan translations of their products and they receive significantly less money than them actually translating and releasing it themselves.

Steam is a good example. Beforehand there was almost no reason NOT to pirate stuff since you got it free + no cd cracks + it had no DRM.
Now with steam providing games at respectable prices, as well as the sheer ease of access to extremely large libraries and non-intrusive DRM, you feel encouraged to buy games since you'll always be able to access them no matter what, wherever you want, whenever you want, without ANY hassle.
That's a pretty big deal if you ask me.

So eastern companies releasing a watered down product in the west for an "unreasonable" price. Why would we buy it? we can just adapt the pieces we need from it into the original version and have an even better time for no cost.

The reason I bought beat blades haruka was because they did it RIGHT. It had everything the best version had, came as ONE package, and had a respectable price tag given the run-time of it. Plus you know, it's uncensored compared to the censored eastern version.

>>147584241
removal of mosaics is the best thing that has come of localizations

Speaking of Beat Blades Haruka, does it have a NG+ Feature like Big Bang Age or anything?

>>147584610
honestly depends on the artist, you can tell a lot really didn't put the effort into it.

in-fact, other than Euphoria, i'm having a hard time recalling where the artist actually gave a shit about drawing genitals well.

>>147584727
pretty sure it does, i think there's even a route that's exclusive to NG+

>>147584763
Harem route is I believe.

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I want to FUCK and BREED and RAVAGE and MATE with Haru.

>>147584996
but shes greasy and smells and plays meme violin music

>>147584763
In that stats carry over in some form? After beating the game once or twice I probably won't want to play through the game in the same slow fashion again and again to get all the endings.

Although I guess I don't know how long the game is to begin with.

>>147584996
I feel like she probably smells bad. Also she needs a haircut

>>147584996
That'll be an extra 10$.

>>147584996
Even if I don't love GSNM like I did long ago, Usami is still great.

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Rise is best girl in PE, right?

>>147585489
Right.

>>147585489
No that's Tamie.

>>147585489
No that's Ritsuko.

>>147585489
>W happiness still only halfway done
JUST

"I'm covered in all these scars." That would actually be a bit hot but I am looking hard and I can't find any. This girl is clearly a damn liar and cannot be trusted. Brutal route it is.

>>147586320
wat

>>147586320
What are you playing?

>>147586448
Beat Blades Haruka. Main girl says she needs to have sex with the protagonist and then gets all uncomfortable because she says she's covered in scars, but doesn't have a single one anywhere on her body.

So clearly she must be punished.

>>147586532
Ah. Haruka a shit. Narika a best.

>>147586619
Yeah, first impression is that Haruka is really boring.

>>147586717
I have a huge boner for hair vents and even I could like her.

>>147586765
couldn't*

>>147584763
Looking forward to Maggot Baits, since it has the same artist as Euphoria

>>147586887
she's a very good nukige artist, yes.

maggot baits is quite extreme though. but it seems a surprising amount of people are hyped for it

>>147586994
> but it seems a surprising amount of people are hyped for it
is it really surprising that a lot of people here are into edgy gore stuff?
>>147586994
>she
really? is she a qt?

>>147587175
well not just here, but there's a lot of likes and retweets on the twitter announcement as well.

shiggy doesn't allow photography, but people who were at the event seemed to say that she was relatively good looking, yeah. there's a really shitty low-res and blurry picture of her from when the camera accidentally panned over her, and she looks normal enough. definitely not the kind of person you'd expect to be making art for guro.

>>147587175
Tons of females dominate the eroge artist industry.

>>147587458
Name 11, not counting Shigeo.

>>147584763
Shigeo is based.

http://blog.mangagamer.org/2015/03/09/womens-history-month-shigeo-hamashima-interview/

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>>147587458
>you will never work for an eroge company

>>147587782
>What do you find most rewarding about your job?

>When people tell me that they really got off on my work. It just makes me happy to feel useful.

>>147588084
waifu tier

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based

I like Dovac.

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>>147588612

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>>147588612
is this you?

I hate Dovac.

>>147588612
Same. Dovac has never done anything to make me dislike him at least

>>147588045
this was a good nukige

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>>147588915

>>147589090
there really hasn't been any shitty clockup titles. I hope the mangagoys bring more

pls

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>synchronized finish function
What is this and what value should it be at?

>>147593845
I believe that's just a number in the bottom right that will inform you as to when the climax in the H-scene is going to occur. So at 10 it will let you know 10 lines before it happens? I think?

>>147593985
>So at 10 it will let you know 10 lines before it happens?
Yes.

Does JAST include a digital copy with a physical?

Welp, finished IMHHW. A thoroughly mixed experience mostly due to the translation.

How the fuck did such a horrible tl ever come to be? Sure am glad Moenovel seems to be completely defunct now.

>>147596541
Did they die from releasing one game?

>>147596669
Considering we haven't heard nary a peep from them since the released it, it's safe to assume that they're dead.

>>147596805
https://twitter.com/moenovel

Look at the twitter still just shilling out years after.

>>147596963
Jesus. How are they still clinging to that? Did they update the TL at all in all these years? It's full of grammatical errors and blatantly wrong translations.

This is kind of amazing.

>>147597086
They ported the garbage to mobile devices where it sold like 7 copies it looks like.

I guess spamming about steam sales every other day still nets them a few bucks.

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>Haven't read a VN in bit
>Checking how things are
>Wanting 18+ content is bad
>It's great that steam made VNs more accessible and popular
>You're entitled
>No you're entitled
>You are a manchild for liking awkward porn scenes and lolis

What the fuck did I step into fucking bizzaro world

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>>147597601
Right. And guess what? If you DON'T support Baldr Sky, the market is LITERALLY dead and not worth working in anymore.

At least according to Sekai employees.

>>147597707
Is every Sekai employee a huge prick or something, because everytime I see an employee's twitter they're usually acting like man children.

>>147597885
there's a high correlation between being a weeb and being a manchild

it takes discipline to retain your weeb aspects while not becoming a complete piece of shit, but some of us have done it

Wanikani has teamed up with SP

by releasing censored editions of VNs to EOPs SP minimizes work while Wanikani gets more customers from disgruntled EOPs

this maximizes the total combined revenue

>>147598260
Wanikani is shit though, all you need is anki and tae kim.

>>147597707
I don't understand what 'make it' really means

Am I obligated to buy baldr sky because JOPs circlejerked to it for years about how good it is, do I just buy this game off pure hype alone

Can someone tell me what VN's have 'made it' in the western world so I have something to compare it to

>>147598374
If it doesn't get 200k+ sales like Nekopara Vol. 1 you are literally cancer for not telling everyone you know to buy it

>>147598374
You have to buy their gutted release of Sky because UGH it's GOOD, and 18+ content is PROBLEMATIC

>>147598439
desu I'm not too miffed about there being no H scenes as long as they don't remove anything else, but at the same time Dovac and his cronies are acting like such shits about this that I don't think I'll buy it anyway out of spite.

>>147598374
JUST SHUT UP AND BUY IT

>>147598374
>Can someone tell me what VN's have 'made it' in the western world
Can't say they actually made it since it isn't even out yet but MuvLuv is probably the one that has made the more money considering it raised 1mil+ bucks

>>147598547
Wow entitled much?

>>147597707
i cant wait for it to be 60 bucks on steam so no one will purchase it

>>147598547
I really don't want to buy anything SP related but I like the Sunrider team and what they've put out so far. Shame they joined up with SP, but I still want to see how their Idolshit turns out.

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Why doesn't this faggot just cut his nails already? They look disgusting.

>>147597707
I only got into these games for the dating aspects and shagging 2d girls, if it's fun and with a good story that's just added bonus for me, if I wanted to enjoy a real story or whatever I'd read a fucking book

Why can't these faggots understand that

For the most part gaymers aren't going to want to buy a game that you don't actually play, we're the only thing keeping this shit alive, and it's not different in Japan either, perverts keep the industry alive that's why theres so many different flavors of porn to choose from and very little "deep story" games

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>>147596963
I like how not a single pic actually shows any dialogue.

>>147598949
he's delaying cutting them just like he delays everything else.

>>147598976
to be fair, baldr sky is an actual video game. and a well regarded one to just play at that.

same people behind Duel Savior, if you've played that.

>>147598949
>1 like
Why even use Twitter at this point?

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>>147599164
so he can block people that say mean things about him and his company, and then eventually delete his account when he throws one too many fits. then when he's hungry for attention again he'll do it all over again.

>>147596669
Impossible. It's sold 75k on Steam alone. Sure, it's at like, $5-$15, but that's still 75k fucking sales for a game with a shitty translation. That's something like ~400kish of pure profit after Steam cuts and sale pricecuts, at a bare minimum.

>>147599076
well, I meant it more as a general statement, they have a lot of nerve releasing gutted nukige like grisaia which definitely don't stand up on gameplay(none) and story alone and charging 60 bucks for a hatchet job

I've been living under a rock, so what happened? Maitetsu officially confirmed to be all-ages? Maggot baits localization? Any new announcements beside Baldr Sky?

>>147599572
SP dodged the issue about maitetsu. Aside from those, a bunch of other stuff got announced but they're not as big as baldr sky.

>>147599076
That's a fair point but I'm wondering how much people are willing to pay for said video game.

If clannad was 50 I highly doubt Baldr sky will release under 30 usd. I'm really doubting 40 also.

>>147599572
http://mangagamer.org/announcements/

Maggot Baits, an otome game that looks pretty fun, a Chuablesoft game (https://vndb.org/v17376), and Dal Segno. Nothing to write hope about, but I"m fine with two middle-of-the-line moege.

We'll see Sona-Nyl and an Alicesoft game at Otakon in a month. Rance in the very-possible best case, Evenicle realistically.

>>147599572
The Sakusaku fanTL got picked up by Sekai project

>>147599792
>Maggot Baits locailization is real
I'm literally dying here. Oh boy there really is a market for guro in the west, isn't it?

>>147600009
My fetish is necrophilia but I can tolerate guro. I'll play it.

>>147599572
Maitetsu was dodged despite promises to confirm otherwise. i don't expect it to get away uncensored and neither should anyone else who is aware of that game's content.

>>147599775
dovac said on Twitter that there was a title they would be doing in the future that was going to upset people due to the price, i'm convinced that this is probably Baldr.

firstly, the game is long as fuck. Grisaia's fandisc sold at 40 dollars and that's gauged at around 15-30 hours to complete, with most seeming to complete at around 20 it seems. Baldr can very well be more than twice that length.

Giga also have a reputation for not liking gaijins, it's probably a miracle they got the license at all. i'm assuming Dovac paid very big bucks for the license and is giving them a large majority cut.

i'm assuming it will probably be at around 50-60 dollars. but this is just my speculation.

>>147600009
a surprising number of people on Twitter liked and re-tweeted it. over 100. to put it in perspective Baldr has 174 likes, and it's been over-hyped for years in this community. fetishists are strong.

and so are otomefags. that new otome game has 183 likes and 234 retweets. supposedly it's actually got a really funny script so I may even read it myself.

>>147599792
I'm still not sure why you guys think Evenicle is more likely than Rance 01.

I hope so though. Evenicle was probably the 2015 release I enjoyed the most even including non eroge.

And /haniho/ needs a new translated game anyway. Been 18 months for them since Mamatoto.

>>147600320
No one wants to fan translate Alicesoft games anymore.

>>147586320
>>147586532
If you guys do get Evenicle or Rance can you move to the relevant general?

>>147600512
>No one wants to fan translate games anymore.
Fixed it for you. Fan-translations are dead.

>>147600320
le senran meme, maybe. game has 40k owners on steam, and his art is pretty well established.

i can see the /v/ shilling threads now where they celebrate being able to play a game that isn't all cock-teasing with his art.

>>147600578
But I'm translating something right now.

>>147600512
I thought it was fairly obvious I was talking about a hypothetical MG announcement.

I actually tried fantranslating once but fortunately gave up before I announced anything. It was actually the English I lacked confidence with.

>>147600593
It's a really fun and relaxing game. And most the girls are cute. Aster wasn't as annoying as I had feared.

>>147600738
>>147600640
>>147600593
>>147600512
Alicesoft/Rance General

>>147600638
You'll just sell the translation when you're finished with it.

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Poor Arunaru, he's back in H hell again.

Brings up a good point about the lack of cunnilingus representation. Equal rights for genitalia when?

>>147600956
no one wants to lick vaginas cause that's gross

>>147600956
I still don't know how to read twitter. I keep reading it from top-down and instead it should be read as bottom-up.

>>147600956
The only thing I want to eat out is a loli's ass.

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did lose seriously shut out gaijin's from their website? Is this new? Because I remember looking up monobeno a long time ago.

>>147600956
Evenicle has very little blowjob scenes.

Rance VI and Rance 01 don't have too many either.

>>147600305
>Giga also have a reputation for not liking gaijins
source? I mean, plenty of japs have already been proven to only want to jew the "Western market" like Frontwing and Akabei, but I'd still like some concrete examples

>>147601247
Akabei want to jew everyone.

Their rage whenever their copyright fails and their games are released with cracks on torrent sites before the other eroge released on the same day is beautiful

>>147601445
right, they wanted to get Denuvo for their stuff, I almost forgot about that
I wonder if that's still a thing

>>147601247
just a bit of hearsay from years ago that i barely remember, so i'm mostly talking out of my ass. could probably find it in the /jp/ archives if i look back far enough, though.

funnily enough, they were almost partnered with JAST at one point iirc, but GIGA refused to supply uncensored 18+ content, and i believe there was some big disagreement in regards to a 18+ release at all, and i believe because of this it fell through.

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>>147588045
>you will never work

>>147601445
Why do Nips in particular sperg so much about pirating? Are they not aware that the pirating = less profits meme has been debunked long ago?

>>147602430
They're slow. Same reason there's still mosaics.

>>147602430
Shit like G2A is what they SHOULD be worried about.

what are the best selling VNs in japen

>>147602430
well, the japs also overprice their eroges way more by trying to add physical goods
>>147602749
I wonder has anything like G2A ever happened to the japs or we just didn't know
unfortunately the only time I had to use G2A I did it because the game I wanted was region locked for no reason, or I just didn't look hard enough into how to buy it

>>147603238
I think Nip consumers are just good goys who never look workarounds to get their products cheaper. That's also probably why VN companies are hesitant to export their shit

>>147603349
Is it just me or have I never heard of this.

>>147603469
You would be wrong. Eroge market is dominated by pirates.

Even those that do buy pick a few releasea a year to pay near 8000 yen for and pirate the rest.

It is one of the reasons they give out really good preorder bonuses.

>>147603469
pretty sure there's a report out there that says a large portion of NT users are japs
hell, just look at the peers list the next time you download something, it's almost always japs for me
>>147603595
https://twitter.com/fuwan0vel/status/750602075919253504
no, you haven't

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>>147603349
oh boy. here we go again

i'm laughing my ass off at this translation

>>147603595
it was released earlier this year.

orange has a terribly shitty voice actor is all i remember

>>147602430
>Why do Nips in particular sperg so much about pirating?

Because it's not a multi million dollar industry like say video games. If a lot of your audience pirate your product it's actually damaging

>>147603349
>kyonyuu
MAKE IT STOP REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>147603238
Eroge isn't overpriced by the preorder market. It is overpriced because the market is very small and gets a lot of releases.

>VNs
>selling in japan
ded medium is ded

>>147603679
Wwow that engrish

>>147603696
Please speak in English. They're called funbags.

>>147603679
>he lives alone because his mother was dead when he was young
>oneday
>Patricia casts a spell on him to change the cat (?????????)
>This story is the heartful story

This is amazing. Did they employ a robot to TL this?

>>147603758
what have the eroge readers moved on to?

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>>147603857
>This story is the heartful story

>>147603895
More releases per year spread among the same fanbase.

Plus many grow out of it

>>147603720
>It is overpriced because the market is very small and gets a lot of releases
can't be smaller than ours, sometimes I'm actually impressed we get them for a more reasonable price
but then our market is saturated with OELVNs that are way cheaper instead

Sekai Project will save the industry.

>>147604190
lol

>>147604190
lol

>>147604190
lol

>>147596541
Is the translation still that bad? I thought it had been fixed

>>147604190
wtf? I hate mangagamer now

>>147604354
The Ageha route is like 5% fixed and there was some editing done in the common route.

The H scenes are """""""""translated""""""""" terribly. It's probably just a somewhat cleaned up machine translation. Tons of grammatical issues absolutely everywhere though.

>>147604190
This. I am now a dovacmissile

>>147603679
Where the fuck did the cat thing come from
You can barely follow this thing

>>147604491
I see. From what I read it seems that a group picked up the effort to fix it and it's still underway.

http://forums.fuwanovel.net/topic/1461-kono-oozora-h-scenes-porting-project/

Such a shame.

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The append H patch for Maitetsu is so very nice. Though they're all NSFW CGs so I can't really post them here without censoring them.

>>147604719
Yes. I have the partial of that I believe, but like I said it only fixed the very, very beginning of the Ageha route.

It's a huge mess. You would probably need to start the whole thing from scratch.

>>147604721
Is that a recent patch? Or is that the one included in the sukebei torrent?.

>>147604794
I wonder if a similar fiasco happened with SP would finally drive the last nail in the coffin

>>147604917
Nevermind, just checked the one I have, it's not the same patch. Where did you download it from anon?

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>>147604917
Seems to be recent, just read the comments on here: http://exhentai.org/g/951777/0a6ecd0048/

It will lead you to Lose's download page for the patch and a way to circumvent the DRM. Which is obscenely simple, you just extract the .exe as if it were a zip file. I used 7-Zip for this because WinRAR wouldn't let me.

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>>147605297
Thanks anon, now I know what I'm doing tonight.

>>147605403
*unzips dick*

Y'all niggas should be arrested.

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>>147605587
Have some trains.

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>>147605587
>implying I'm not posting this from prison

>>147605587
it's okay, they don't enforce piracy related laws here that much

>>147603895
It's so dead in Japan that they're pushing hard to make it relevant in the west.

>>147604721
>>147605297
>Sekai wants to censor this.

>>147604721
>no funbags
fucking dropped

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>>147605297
Obviously upscaled from half the resolution. Looks like shit.

Why do people like mangagamer so much?

All they do is publishing moege and nukige. An plotge like gakthun is flopping. All age shit like fata morgana and tokyo babel is flopping.

>>147607591
They don't. There's just a very dedicated MG employee constantly shilling here.

>>147607591
>An plotge like gakthun is flopping. All age shit like fata morgana and tokyo babel is flopping.

How is that Mangagamer's fault?

>>147607802
But sekai have flopping g-senjou and root double!

>>147607591
They don't censor shit.
Is that hard to understand?

I prefer all-age version, even better if it's a Japanese all-age version, because sex scenes tend to take place during the climax of the story and VN sex scenes are unfappable.

>>147607591
They don't censor shit and release everything on time.
>>147607652
hi dovac

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>>147585489
Hole in 1 m8.

>>147607591
I hate mangagamer more than anything else.

Never going to forgive them for delaying Rance VI forever.

It's funny how successful the already translated vn's are.

Clannad,muv luv,grisaia etc.

Can't wait when eustia/baldr/dies irae/white album 2 are flopping and eop spamming they are inferior to grisaia/clannad

>>147608759
what?

Complaining non 18+ version of baldr,

Isn't even in top 10 in ero scenes

http://www.getchu.com/pc/2009_g_ranking/eros.html

>>147569273

No, according to nips Baldr is better than dies irae and muramasa.

http://www.getchu.com/pc/2009_g_ranking/scenario.html

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>>147609157
>being ok with censorship

>>147609157
>he doesn't want porn
are you gay?

>>147609157
>guys it's fine h scenes are bad anyway
You are literally cancer.

>>147597707
Muv-Luv made it, I don't see why Sky wouldn't make it if they don't fail to play their cards not wrong.

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>>147606195
Yes, it is obviously upscaled to the monitor's resolution. If you are a purist I can see why that would bother you - outlines look jaggy and whatnot. But I like my screenshots the same way I like my lolis' asses. Big. Even if the overall quality is not as good.

Here's one taken with the game's built-in screenshot function in its native resolution.

>>147609298
Why do you have to contextualize it as censorship?
I can understand disliking censorship when it is used to squash dissident ideals, like replacing "evil Jews" with "evil American corporations" or something.
But that's not what's going on here. Porn is being removed so the game can be sold on an all-ages platform.
There's no crushing dissidence. There's no oppression of ideals. A logical action of removing content which makes a game harder to sell due to laws and regulations is being taken for purely business reasons. Yes, this can be considered censorship, that's not what I'm saying. I'm saying why do you have contextualize it as such?
If you would say stuff like, "being ok with porn being removed", or something, I'd be in your boat too.
So why do you have to go around labeling it as censorship? It's kind of pretentious and even disingenuous.

>>147610574
Because it clearly is. Doesn't matter how you dress it up or flavor it, its still censorship.

>>147610574
>Porn is being removed so the game can be sold on an all-ages platform.
That's censorship.
Fuck off and kill yourself, faggot.

>>147610680
>>147610675
> Yes, this can be considered censorship, that's not what I'm saying. I'm saying why do you have contextualize it as such?

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>>147610767
>can be held in a negative regard
>why must you bring up that negative aspect

>>147610767
Because it's fucking censorship.

>>147610574
>calling things with their own name is pretentiousness

>>147610574
Why does this feel like its something one of the retards over the SP or the original company would say to try to justify their idiotic decision to not release the full game?

>>147610574
>let's no call something for what it is
Consider a political career my dear anon.

>>147610574
A really good argument I hear a lot is "it is 2016" and it is indeed 2016 and we are still putting up with these paternalizing puritan proscriptions.

Notice how people are a lot more forgiving of it when there are uncensored versions as well? It is like people are upset when something is denied to them because someone else dislikes it.

>>147610853
Cencorship is not a reason something should be considered bad. If someone came running into a school filled with first graders and started screaming "NIGGER FAGGOT" and shoving a bunch of furry porn in their face, would that be okay too, since not allowing it would be considered censorship? I don't know the full situation on this but saying something is bad because it's "censorship" isn't a valid argument.

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>>147610959

>>147611176
That's the worst analogy I have ever heard. You are legit braindead.

>>147610819
>>147610853
>>147610931
>>147610970
Ok, since it seems like you can't understand me, I'll used an analogy.

This is like a cop pulling you over for speeding and calling it "police oppression of the citizens". It's something that yes, can be considered such, but in doing so you make yourself look silly, because it's a clear exaggeration. I am NOT saying "even though it's censorship, stop calling it censorship". I'm saying "even though it's censorship, it's an over-exaggeration to push that point as a serious one considering the real uses of actually oppressive, immoral censorship". It's disingenuous because it's piggybacking off an actually important context and making it imply a smaller context is nearly as important. A newspaper censoring certain political ideas is incredibly awful. A game company "censoring" porn for an all ages release simply is not. But, by pushing it as censorship and thereby implying it's as incredibly awful as the former, you simply make yourself look silly to any third party not contextualizing it as such.

In short: If you stop looking at it as censorship, in an unbiased neutral view, you'll see it as it really is, which is just removal of some porn scenes, which isn't a big deal. So why are you intentionally contextualizing it as censorship? It doesn't help your position, makes you look pretty silly to outside observers, and so on and so on.
>>147611153
> It is like people are upset when something is denied to them because someone else dislikes it.
Well, putting aside the issue is laws, not dislikes or likes...
...This is what I mean. The issue is, "something is being denied to you". Not squashing of ideas, not silence of dissidence, nothing nefarious and not truly evil censorship. Just some legally problematic content is being removed from a game you want. Not a good situation, of course, but contextualizing it as censorship is just an over exaggeration.


Man, I hope the idea of contextualization isn't too hard too grasp.

>>147611228
You do the job then. Explain to me how removing some sex scenes from the game is bad. And don't use "it's censorship!" because it's not an argument.

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Why don't you all niggas just learn Japanese instead of complain about censorship?

>>147611176
Fuck off faggot, censorship is never acceptable under any circumstance.

>>147611321
BUT THAT'S LITERALLY THE PROBLEM AND THE ARGUMENT YOU FUCKING MONGOLOID.

Holy shit if you are b8ing you got us good.

>>147611307
>This is like a cop pulling you over for speeding and calling it "police oppression of the citizens".
Stopped reading. It's nothing alike, fucking retard. Seriously kill yourself.

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>Thread is ruined by censorship faggots