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Visual Novel General #1126

READ THE FOLLOWING, THIS IS IMPORTANT

>Having trouble with your VN? Try the following before you ask for tech support:

1. Be in Japanese locale
2. Read the Readme
3. Read the wiki below
4. Google it

>FAQs, Recommendations, and Other Useful Things:
http://visual-novels-general.wikia.com/wiki/

>Need a novel with a specific element?
http://vndb.org/g

>Visual Novel Translation Status
https://warosu.org/jp/?task=search2&search_tripcode=%21%21UcDDlzwANFs&search_op=op

>Download Links:
http://pastebin.com/U7HUj0fk/

Previous threads:
>>147279214
http://pastebin.com/zeiYgLrs/

This general is for the discussion of Japanese visual novels.

Kindly use spoiler tags appropriately when discussing plot spoilers to facilitate smooth discussion.
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First for MG getting absolutely BTFO
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This is what happens when you trust a lolicon.
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Someone bomb Sekai please
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I like lolis and dovac ruins everything once again.
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>Nekopara anime
why
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>Sekai project has blown Mangagamer out at every con this year
Will anything ever go right for them?
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>>147398835
>>147398848
>https://twitter.com/sekaiproject/status/749822154879995904

I never asked for this.
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Chuee you piece of shit you guys better not let them take the lolis in AstralAir from us
I can forgive you guys for SakuSaku, DONT FUCKING GIVE THEM ASTRALAIR
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Why haven't you started learning Japanese yet? The VN translation scene is just going to get worse and worse and SP hogs all the good games and shits out censored titles with shitty translations. You're already a fucking weeaboo playing chink dating sims, might as well embrace it and start understanding what your waifu says.
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I want to rail the trains.
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I fucking hate sp but damn how do they do this shit. Why can't jast or mg get any big name titles?
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>>147398758
MG pays me $1/30 posts insulting SP or other competitors. Better yet, I believe it to begin with, so it's literally free money.
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If MG doesn't win the Augustbowl I'm out
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>>147399098
Cause I already barely have enough time to play my Japanese localized games (not just VNs), let alone doubling my backlog through and learning another language. This year especially has a shitload of releases and I'm just buried.

Why learn Japanese when in a year's time I can do other shit, and then play Baldr Sky?
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>>147399098
stuck behind the kanji wall anon ;_;
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>>147399207
Maybe they should spend that money getting better licences lol
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You didn't think you were getting out without a kickstarter announcement, did you? Pay up retards, keep eating up our shit.
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>>147399180
>but damn how do they do this shit
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Kimi ga Nozomu Eien official localization?
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>>147398815
Chances of this hot blonde bimbo maid being a virgin?
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>>147399057
I'll count a win for SP once they actually fucking release anything good that wasn't already translated.
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This is the world you choose to live in
>100 dollars for 8 cat-nendos
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The Nekopara meme has gone too far.
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>>147399394
You know what, you can shit on SP all you want on 4chan and reddit, but all of that doesn't matter one bit in Japan where they're actively getting more and more licenses under their belt. They can keep on using the prestige from these big announcements to score more.
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>>147399394
>I really like Frontwing and have wanted to support them
after Purino Party and Sharin no Kuni I'm not sure if anyone can say this anymore
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>>147399543
You're right. I should just support Sekai.
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https://twitter.com/Deoto/with_replies

What's going on here?
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>>147399685
Or you could shut up and learn Japanese
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Only August can save MG now.
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>hey anon you dirty eop baldr sky is going to get translated congrats for you
>oh nice thank you weeaboo friend who's in charge of it
>sekai project

is this concrete proof that there is no such thing as a benevolent god?
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>>147399685
What's a Phil-Fish?
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>>147399543
Hopefully they collapse under the weight of all these expensive licenses
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For every 1 /vn/ or Reddit EOP there are 10 steamtards that will buy anything with an anime face on it. Good night ;)
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>>147399749
He won AX
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>>147399843
Hopefully they go under within the next year.
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https://twitter.com/The_Doddler/status/749812735349706752

Poor Doddler. Dude had been helping with Baldr Sky for awhile now and they didn't even tell him it was getting licensed. He's probably not going to get paid with the others too.

Being Doddler is suffering.
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>>147400002
Doodler confirmed cucked.
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Did SP say anything about FUCKING CHRONOCLOCK?

Don't answer that, I'm sure they didn't.
Someone bombs SP's HQ when?
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https://twitter.com/enjoievan/status/749823101865635840
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>>147400002
I'm still confused if they're using Aroduc's translation or not. Someone was saying Conjueror was being sarcastic about it.

I doubt SP would just disregard other team member's work on the game though. They're not that shitty to the people that buy TLs from.
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>>147400091
This will never come out. How foolish can men be, to defy the gods?
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>>147400002
Maybe his company should take a risk for once in their existence
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>>147399394
Man, they could have been our saviors if they hadn't fucked up pr and management. Even with the maitetsu thing, people would have made a fan patch with less backlash. I just hate their business ethics
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>>147399447
>$100 for 8 nendos
Cheaper than most nendos tbqh.
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If we remove pre-existing/currently being made fan translation and kickstarters, how much did they actually announce?
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>>147400091
kimi what now
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Chuee, you traitor you. I bet you'll sell AstralAir to the enemy too.

>>147399180
It's because SP is mismanaged. They haven't had a single year that they've been in the black despite having ridiculous advantages in this market since the start. Dovac is a retard and overspends to get licenses, draining all the Kikestarter and OELVN money away. He's basically in a race to get all 'dem BIG NAME VNs, when the reality is that they that profitable and marginally risky unless you manage to have a good deal or a Kickstarter. To make things worse, since Dovac sucks at business, he overpays for everything.

Contrast to MG who is used to working with low inventory movement, so they tend to make percentage based deals combined with lower prices, and aren't afraid to not pursue more popular titles. They tend to go after middle-of-the-market moege and niche titles, usually older ones that are affordable. Generally speaking, MG is presently very well-managed and will survive for the decades to come, and has been for years, thus creating a very good reputation and general goodwill that none of the other competitors have. Sekai Project is built on a rickety foundation. Worse, the situation might be so bad that the reason he desperately keeps localizing everything under the sun that has a nearly complete fanlation is because of the almost immediate profit, which helps to get around his cashflow issues. It's only a matter of time until Dovac's house of cards collapses under it's own weight.
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>>147400091
Is Degica going to make a kickstarter for it as well?
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>>147400194
OELVNs and some Vita ports.
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>>147400205
Leader of Best Korea
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>>147399447
They're fucking statues.
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>>147399394
> My posts are now a copypasta to shit on SP.

I'm as proud as a mother watching her newborn walk for the first time.
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>>147400194
Only evn shit and vita ports.
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Some of you guys are okay. Don't go to SP HQ tomorrow.
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>>147400091
To the surprise of no one.

I'm totally okay with that though, assuming they knew ahead of time and had this actually planned out.
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>>147400342
Godspeed.
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>>147400129
>I'm still confused if they're using Aroduc's translation or not.
Yeah, I'm not sure about that either. There's conflicting information.

I'm assuming Aroduc is working on it for now since I don't think he even works at JAST anymore.

>I doubt SP would just disregard other team member's work on the game though.
Yeah. I would think so too, but The Dodd has absolutely no info on it seems. Herkz knows about it and he wasn't even working on it.

Hopefully he didn't get cucked.
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Don't worry guys I'm hiring Daiz to eliminate Sekai Project. He's the best hitman there is.
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>>147400342
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>>147400380
Yeah, that guy has been posting KGNE stuff for a while now, it was bound to happen.
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>>147400342
You should've just done it today.
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>>147400212
>People defending manga gamer

I never thought I'd see the day desu senpai
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What does MG need to announce for you to get hyped?
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>>147400091
WHO UPDATES VNDB? I SWEAR, WIZARDS DO IT.

THIS WAS POSTED LIKE SECONDS AGO AND IT'S ALREADY ON VNDB. FUCKING MORPHOGENIC FIELDS, STOP PREDICTING THE FUCKING FUTURE DAMNIT.

WHAT KIND OF PERSON DOES THIS?
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>>147400569
Maggot Baits 2.
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O boy more kickstarters

https://twitter.com/RPGSite/status/749827674294644737
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How do we feel that OELVN have now been confirmed superior?
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>>147400342
>>>/pol/79677552
You work fast anon.
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>>147400569
If they announce a partnership with August they will have won. They have multiple god-tier titles.

I know a lot of people have been saying that Conjueror's secret TL project might be Eustia since he's been dropping hints about it for awhile. But who knows
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>>147400569
Monobeno or any other good lolige uncensored.
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>>147400569
August
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>kickstarters
>Fan TLs being picked up
>Sekai project winning
Fuck this I'm learning Japanese.
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>>147400735
>he browses /pol/

LOL /jp/ confirmed better general
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>>147400569
The death of sekai project.
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>>147400569
Eustia, Daitoshokan, or Hatsuyuki Sakura. That, or Rance.

>>147400554
They had a rocky start, sure, but they're pretty much the best in the business at this point in terms of consistent quality.

Interest in titles is something entirely different.
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>>147400669
I was really confused when the Degica/age guy was talking about spamming sayori with requests for Kiminozo.

But since it's unclear, the remake would be done with Sayori's art. I would get behind that.
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>>147400569

A hostile takeover of all SP licenses, a straight up firefight happens between the two companies while on stage, everyone dies, ZUN comes out from the side after the last combatant expires, puts his hands up and says "werr, guess dey shud hav dodge de burrets!", laughtrack, end of act 7.
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>>147400859
>That, or Rance.
I'd be fine with Evenicle too. In-fact, that may be a pretty safe bet for them considering how much of a meme Nan Yaegashi is in the English community.
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>>147400212
I guess in time we'll see. After falling for one of the early SP kickstarters and experiencing their shit, I'll never be supporting them again. Still, I hope MG gets at least one big title this year since poor jast is falling way behind
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>>147401013
Rance is also a meme too. Guarenteed success. Even my fucking normalfag friends know about Rance.
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>>147401143
>Seikai Project does Rance for Steam
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>Chuee hasn't shown up
What does this mean guys?
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I hope Visual Arts eventually translates Hatsuyuki Sakura. Literally a timeless classic.

>>147401013
Evenicle would be fine too. I wouldn't get as hyped as I would with the other options, but it's still pretty gud.
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>>147401216
He posted last thread. I hope the guilt eats away at his heart like his betrayal has eat away at mine ;_;
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>>147401216
Dovac managed to buy him, he has now converted to cowtits and has no interest in lolis anymore.
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>>147400091
That one anon that kept posting about KimiNozo is finally getting his wish granted
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>>147401216
He's a SP employee now hopefully he fucks off for good.
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Chuee betrayed us. Now he's going to translate AstralAir and twist that dagger once more by giving it to dovac on a silver platter when it's near completion.

Traitor. If you sold it to MG or JAST, I'd be okay with that, but Sekai Project? reeeeeee
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>>147401216
An absolute disgrace to all lolicons. Worse than kirby.
He'll probably fuck off to reddit.
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>>147401046
>poor jast is falling way behind

They have to know that at this point. They've probably got a secret weapon or two hiding away.
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I'm not worried about MangaGamer, they're playing the long game for the companies they work with. I'm disappointed that they're going for Maggot Baits (it's really one of ClockUp's mediocre titles out of all the ones I've played but that's me), but I expect something out of the Alicesoft partnership and stuff and other future partnerships. Weaker titles or titles that aren't as popular to get your foot in the door and convince japanese companies to work with you (and prove you do decent quality work without having to shill for Kickstarters) and get you later titles (As in Rance or Evenicle for Alicesoft, other titles for other companies. Trying to do anything to please Lilith as a company is near impossible so I've given up hope on that ages ago.)
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>>147401216
The threads might be good again.
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>>147401216
Fuck (((Chuee)))
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>>147401445
Their only secret weapon is the ability to delay releasing things long enough for their licenses to expire.

Not even shitting you, it's going to happen soon.
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>>147400091
Degica? Are they cool dudes?
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>Muv-Luv x Nekopara VR collab idea being pushed by Kouki and Sayori
Literally what the fuck am I reading
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>>147401409
Well AstralAir is already done, actually. I can empathize with his team about wanting to get paid for their work. Sekai sucks, but they pay translators well. So, yeah. I feel a bit miffed that I'm not getting it as soon as I wanted but whatever.

I'm praying AstralAir doesn't get taken too, though.
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>>147401479
Euphoria is probably their best selling game of the last year so it's a no brainer they'd go for Maggot Baits. The fetish stuff is what sells.

But yeah, I'm disapppointed that they haven't announced any Kamige.
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>>147401651
how new
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>>147401691
Fata Morgana is kamige.
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So what would happen to stuff SP announced if they go bankrupt?
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>>147401684
The translation is done, but QC isn't. Ripe for SP to rape it.

Announcement at Otakon. Are you ready to have your dreams buried in gravel?
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>>147401719
About 7 months
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>>147401684
Sekai has Hoshimemo. They're definitely getting Astral Air and Irosekai.
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>>147401651
They're the guys who localized Deathsmiles and Mushihimesama but I don't know if they've done a VN before. The Muv Luv kickstarter was done by them so we'll see in a couple of weeks.
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>>147399401
100%, she's in Majikoi.
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>>147401776
They sell the licenses to the highest bidder to pay off their debts, since they're considered assets.

So anything could happen. Some might be purchased by some company who only intends to sit on it forever, some might be released by MG or someone else.
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>>147401691
Fata was quite good. Honestly better than anything SP has put out in years.

Too bad it sold poorly. It's actually quite popular in Japan.
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>>147401691
Thing is though going from Euphoria to Maggot Baits is going to disappoint people in my opinion. You've got all the different routes for each heroine and all the different ends in Euphoria, and in Maggot Baits you get like one normal route and then you have to go back to the route split choice and those choices give you two other routes and that's it. One route that goes lol MC died time for despair and What if all the witches were really weird futas

Could have localized Tera Beppin or even Ma*Ko Hunter from them instead or EroManga/EroGoods. (Eroge did well for them didn't it? Eromanga is great.)
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http://www.strawpoll.me/10660681
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>>147401216
How oldfag do I have to be to actually understand VN politics?
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>>147401965
Degica because it's literally a VN that should never be laid upon by virgin westerner eyes. It can't be done, it's a transgression against God himself.

Seriously though, fuck dovac.
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>>147402016
If you don't know, you're winning.
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>>147401901
Yeah, I thought it was quite weird they went for Maggot Baits as well. Shiggy's a great artist, but if they wanted to utilize her already-known-art to push a title, they could have done it with Eromanga like you said.

Eroge is still their top seller, I think (?)
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>>147401880
Thanks for the info
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>>147402069
>it's literally a VN that should never be laid upon by virgin westerner eyes. It can't be done, it's a transgression against God himself.
Explain further
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>>147401834
Hoshimemo isn't even released yet though. Would a company allow them to acquire another title before they have even delivered the goods?
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W-well, at least we have Koiken Otome coming very soon..?
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>>147402180
How long have you been here?
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>>147401901
That's not quite accurate, there's the normal route, the futa route (really just an extended bad end and a way of locking off the futa content so you don't have to see it if you don't want to), and the true route from making the correct decisions at the new choices that appear after seeing the normal ending.
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>>147402348
Two months Please no bully
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>>147402348
5.
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>>147402394
It's still one of ClockUp's lazier titles in the past few years is my point and that there are better choices. If they were going for the guro meme and whatnot they could have even gone for Fraternite first
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>>147401216

I'm right here amigo.

>>147401409

I kept telling you guys fan-translations were dead but you never listened...
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>>147402343
Just wait for Otakon. Koiken Otome and AstralAir announcement.

Can't wait, can you?
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>>147402619
Fuck off
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>>147402343
Don't worry. I'm sure dovac will pick that one up, too.
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>>147402619
Can you leave please?
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>>147402619
Hand in your lolicon badge Chuee, you don't deserve it anymore.
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>>147402619
How much did SP pay you?
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>The Age of Fan Translations is at an end

Time sure flies, doesn't it? It was almost like yesterday that I was waking up and eagerly checking progress on /vn/ and chatting with everyone here while everyone else was shitposting about MLA.
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How does it feel knowing I read Baldr Sky 6 years ago and you faggots are only just getting it now?
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>>147402580
As far as porn goes I think it's pretty fantastic but I wouldn't actually recommend reading it just for the story.
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Seeing SP sniping good titles is like going back to your room to see your waifu on the floor, legs spread and cum from another man dripping from her snatch while she has the widest agehao face.
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>>147402868
I still remember the very first VN general we had.
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>>147402619
Burn him at the stake! Traitor!
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>>147402838

But who says there won't be lolis? There will be lolis.
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>>147402619
Kill yourself
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>>147402970
Fuck off, sekaifag.
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>>147402897
I feel pretty nonplussed about it 2bh
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>>147402970
Fuck off
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>>147402619
>I kept telling you guys fan-translations were dead but you never listened...
They should stop being advertised as such and getting hopes up then. Just call them, "SP Applications."

Really though, I'm not mad at you guys. Just disappointed that of all of the companies you had to do business with, it was SP. I would have told Dovac to kiss my boot.

Glad you guys got paid though. Good for you. After working on those titles for so long you guys deserve it. It's a shame your lolis will be murdered in English though while we get cucked out of more content.

>>147402343
>>147402634
Kokien Otome is, like, 96% done with QC. It should be released relatively soon.
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>>147402868
We got like six porn fan translations over the past month or two, although I wouldn't say any of them were that good.
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>>147402970
Yeah dead lolis. Dovac will murder them I hope you're happy
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Happening
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>>147403108
Yeah. Yukikaze was decent though.
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>>147403071
That 4% is them factoring in the SP negotiation.
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>>147403071
I think the only route is through SP. Apparently MG can't land these licenses.
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>>147403108
I wouldn't really say an h-game is the same as a VN.
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>Sekai Project announces Baldr Sky
>Mangagamer announces practically nothing
It's true. The good guys never win.
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>>147403214
P-please. How can they possibly delay a 4% QC until Otakon? Will we get HDD shenanigans?

>>147403242
Well, when you put it that way, yes. What I meant to say is that I would have told them to piss off not matter what. And if there were no other companies to work with, so bet it. Then again I have a pretty huge hate boner for SP to the point where even money wouldn't make me do anything for them.
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How do you guys take screenshots?
I'm getting tired of using snipping tool and making a less-than-perfect crop.

Do you guys have some other software?
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>>147403384
>JAST is too busy racking up on the Sonico meme to even release anything else
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>>147403384
At least that ChuableSoft game looks cute. But yeah. It's a shame.

Believe in Conj. He says they have something big.
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>>147403427
sharex
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>>147402619

Congratulations.

It's fucking hilarious to see the entire thread shit on you when they were fellating you just a day earlier

>>147402868

Time to learn Japanese like I have.
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>>147403427
alt + print screen to capture current window
then paste in paint

that simple
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>>147403427
You do know you can just press Alt+prntscreen to take a screenshot of your current window pasta that shit in paint and be done in 5-10 seconds
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>>147403326
>porn books aren't the same thing as books.
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>>147403414
Leyline was in """"QC"""" for like a year before Sekai project got it
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>>147403619
From hero to zero.
Nah I'm not that mad at Chuee and his team. They took money like most people would.
I'm mad at Sekai for being an absolute shit of a company.
Might as well cast aside hopes of AstralAir within the next few months though. We'll get it in 2 years I bet
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>>147403759
Oh. I dipped out of /vn/ for a few years while I went through college. I didn't know it could get that bad.

Funny how Moenovel has a spiritual successor in Sekai.
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>>147403765

Yes, ideally he would have went with MG, although SP probably pays much more since MG's apparently a lot more conservative with their spending.
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>>147403664
except you still have the border which is what I'm trying to avoid you fucking retard
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>>147403427
IrfanView.
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>>147403427
Sharex is pretty good but I still haven't figured out how to tell it to not include the window border.
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>>147403536
this
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>>147403765
Why would you not be mad at Chuee? It's fair enough that the VN is going commercial, but he's still been an annoying cunting tripfag from day one.
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>>147404068
Yeah it takes a little work to get it right but it's the best
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I know they're not that related, but should I play Tsukihime before Fate
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>>147403891
It's more a licensing issue I think. MG probably pays their translators well enough (supposedly SP claims they have overpaid their translators out of """"""respect""""""" (read: for PR purposes)) but SP already has a Favorite license in Hoshimemo (still unreleased) and they've shown that they're willing to get any license they can get their grubby hands on no matter how hard it hits their bank.


>>147404142
Hey, you can be mad at him for me. I've personally never found him annoying though so I can't be bothered.
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>>147404068
I just select Region then click on program within the window.
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>SP actually localizing Baldr Sky
Holy fuck
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>>147404193
Nah, they just share the same universe. Tsukihime is better than Fate though.
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>>147404193
I'd play Fate first unless you're an experienced vn reader
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>>147404193
You shouldn't be playing TMshit.
Tsukihime is a bog though, is only worth suffering through if you're going to fully commit and read KT and Melty. Tsukihime alone is not worth it
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>>147404193
They both have bad art and dated music but Tsukihime is even worse in that regard. If you think this may bother you more if you go Fate first than read Tsukihime now. The latter can be augmented by a good manga with better art, though.

I prefer Tsuki
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>>147404193
Fate is objectively better but they are both absolutely worth experiencing. They're both on the rec chart for a reason
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>>147404390
The rec chart has no standards and the moment something is released that isn't explicitly nukige it gets slapped on?
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>>147404334
Tsukihime alone is worth it thanks to best meido.

Though Len is pretty cute as well.
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>>147404193
both have utterly shit pacing and awful translations and both have you go through a bad route first

fate is easier on the eyes and has voice acting in the realta nua patch at least

>>147404334
>Tsukihime alone is not worth it
i think its fine standalone. of course the other entries make the journey better, but most of the interesting stuff was in the main title for me

melty doesn't have a ton of text to read through and it's really silly. silly in a good way, at least.
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>>147404352
They both have such a different vibe that I can respect that. I am so close to liking them equally but I like shit when it's newer
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So did anyone take a pic of or with Sayori?
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>>147404285
Is it steam only or is there no other confirmations yet
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>>147404496
Then why isn't Fata Morgana in there yet?
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>>147404538
For me it's more about the grounded approach and the atmosphere. I like both as well but have always preferred Tsuki for those reasons.

As well as the girls. I liked every girl in Tsukihime but the ones in Fate were more polarizing to me. At least the latter gave me my favorite Nasuverse male characters.
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>>147404523
This guy is a contrarian and you should just disregard what he says
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>>147399516
Nah, not far enough. Its bringing over the top cute to freedomstan. But it needs to do more. It needs to inspire so big bux Mr.Deep-Pockets to fund a science team to make adorable catgirls a reality.
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>>147404579
She's a Chink anyway
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>>147404682
i liked both titles though and have literally read every TM work.
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>>147404708
the landwhales would have a shit fit if that ever happens
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>SP doing baldr sky
I THOUGHT YOU WERE ALL JUST MEMEING
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>>147402970
Can you just fucking confirm that you will or will not sell out AstralAir to Shitkai Project?
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>>147404675
I can actually respect that opinion, even if I don't fully agree with it. It definitely says something about the writing that I can feel this way
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>>147404827
>AS WELL AS SAKUSAKU

So....did they buy the fanTL and made it official or what?

This is rapidfire of announcements. I cant handle this.
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>>147401013
>>147401479

Evenicle is even less likely than Rance for the reasons extensively discussed on the relevant general.

Now which Rance game gets done first is a point of interest. VI is a better choice than Quest or Rance 01 but MG might be scared away by its age.

Escalayer is almost just an Alicesoft/Rance General meme. It's possible I guess especially since Haruka sold well.
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>>147402843
Best in the biz.
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>>147404913
Sum up those reasons for me. I don't see it as unlikely. I don't see any of the older Rance games being officially localized.
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>>147403384
I still hate MG for killing Rance VI. I unironically prefer Sekai Project
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>PONKOTSU

THANK YOU BASED SP

Seriously, was looking forward to that one.
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>>147404913
Haven't they remade the older Rance games by now?

>>147405010
It killed itself. The translation was announced, what, in late 2011? It went no where for years. Tons of broken promises and tears. MG might lead us to eventually getting Rance VI at least. Whereas the fan effort seemed to be getting absolutely no where.
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>>147404910
They probably bought the fan tl, there is a reason the translator has been "retranslating" the thing for almost a year now.
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>>147405010
The whale killed Rance VI. Not MG.
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>>147404910
Seems to have bought the fan TL. Hence the Chuee is a sellout thing going on.
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>>147405172
Hey if the work thats done is well, Im all for them getting paid.
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>>147404819
Just infect them with the catgirl retrovirus, then their ragefits are cute.
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>>147405218
I think most of the salt is coming for the prospect of AstralAir not coming out this year, or even the next. And considering it has lolis we might not even get a Denpa.
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>>147404827
This is 2016, memes are real.
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So is Dovac actually our guy now?
Looks like all the releases that should be on denpa are getting a priority release on it, some not even on steam.

I feel like I cant hate on them anymore. Its almost like they took all the feedback from the recent survey into consideration and turned their shit around.
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>>147404984
Alicesoft don't want to give MG anything that's still quite recent.
Evenicle was only released last year and has a good chance of becoming a flagship.

If MG have the clout to get that they have the clout to get Rance which they'll go for because it's the bigger name and because of all the shit they copped from doing Haruka over Rance.

Though of course there is always the possibility that they still have little influence over Alicesoft and get given Escalayer.

For the older games everything before 5D is freeware anyway.
Rance 5D is too old and too mediocre to get localised. But it's not a particularly important game.
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>>147405369
No because almost all of the announcements were shit that was already getting fan translated, meaning he effectively delayed them for months while also butchering them to hell.
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>>147405094
Arunaru started translating it in late Jan/early Feb 2015 and was 87% done by June when the Haruka deal was made.

Given he had translated and released four Alicesoft games by that point it's also not bullshit.

He also translated Haruka in like 6 months.

5D is also 100 translated and edited just not to be released.

They have remade 01 and 03.

But not IV. 01 and 03 also reference a lot of the later games a fair bit.

You can definitely play VI without them and let's face it most Japanese players did.

Optimal release order would probably be something like

VI (+5D maybe), 01 + (2 maybe), Quest + Magnum, 03, 04, IX, X
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>>147405369
Are you kidding?
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>>147405531
>butchering
but how
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>>147399394
>>147400212
OK wiseguys, what's your business plan? Stay ~humble~ like MG and get BTFO the first time someone with the actual balls to chase the big money big rep kamige steps up to the plate? Seriously lay it on me, what would you do if you were playing Dovac Simulator 2016?
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>>147405369
>dodged the question about Baldr Sky getting a denpa release
>completely silent about Maitetsu
>all the titles they announced are getting Steam releases except that one Sayori VN and I wouldn't even be surprised if that got cut up and put on Steam
>still no 18+ Grisaia sequel
What lala land do you live in?
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>>147405630
Nope. I mean it. Im not saying all is good, but this is showing that they are willing to listen.

Take ponkotsu. Its not even getting a steam release.
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>>147405656
>caring about lolishit
>caring about games getting steam releases when there is full versions already confirmed
>still going on about grisaia 18+ version when a completely valid reason was provided on why its not out yet

come on man.
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>>147405640
>what would you do if you were playing Dovac Simulator 2016?
not engage in censorship
not force all titles on steam
stop lying and constantly delaying

thats about it
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>>147404230
Dude you have made my life so much easier thank you
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>>147405814
>contradicting half your own points to why SP has now "turned their shit around"

come on man.
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>>147405814
What was the valid reason? They delayed the recent Grisaia for months and it was well over the expected date it should have been done. And they're going to ask, what, 10 bucks extra for it? On top of the already-expensive game that isn't even that long to begin with?
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>>147405814
Grisaia was already delayed to fuck and back. Valid reason my ass.
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I can't wait to read Baldr Sky in 2030!
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>Degica gets MuvLuv
>Sekai Project gets Baldr Sky
>JAST USA gets Miranda
Mangagamer on suicide watch
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>>147406693
B-but Maggot Baits

What's Miranda?
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RIP EOPs
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https://twitter.com/web_giga/status/749851813214511104

RIP JOPs
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>>147406693
not really, they have a few interesting titles coming out.
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All the dankest VNs are making it west now. JOPs truly on suicidew watch. Baldr Sky is just the beginning. You can use censorship to make yourself feel better, but you will always be dead inside.
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>all these announcements

shit son, Its nice to see the industry picking up steam in the west. Year was looking pretty shitty, but now I have quite a few releases to look forward to.

All this glorious Moege. Moege and Bannerlord. Looking like a good year now.
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VN newfag here.

So basically all the updates people wanted from SP they were completely silent on?

Fucking hell. Those cunts even told us to spam their twitter and forums with questions about 18+ versions, other games, and Grisaia status.
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>>147406986
>JOPs truly on suicidew watch
im on suicide watch and im an EOP. let me know when sekai stops being shit
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>>147407180
face the facts, they are on the upswing now. Give them a chance.
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>>147406986
I see the Sekai shill is here for damage control.
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>>147407239
i gave them a chance for years and they havent shown any improvement in regards to the things that i dislike about them.

time to learn japanese i guess
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Guess you really can't trust fan translations at all anymore. That's pretty depressing.
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I asked dovac about what he thinks of /vn/ in AX. he told me "/vn/ is a mistake" what's his deal?
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>>147407506
Yeah, those kike fan translators sure stab us in the back. They owe us literally everything. How dare they. I will never download a free translation patch ever again. That will show those fucking jews.
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>>147407587
You are reading way too far into what I said. I don't have anything against the translators themselves.
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>>147407580
no you didnt
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At least Rance is confirmed
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>>147407956
But Evenicle when tho
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>>147407956
Can't someone just look up who won the Moe Game Award for game design last year?
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>>147407765
If you ever expect a fan translation to come out then you have the wrong kind of thinking. Until the patch comes out you should just consider the whole translation effort to be a troll. Even more so if "editing" takes longer than 6 months. Aokana and Sakusaku are just more recent examples of how shit goes bad. I'm expecting Koiken to go the same way.
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>>147407765
The truth is out there. Trust no one.
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>>147406802
Autocorrected version of Muramasa
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Is there any point of learning japanese now that all the kamiges are going translated?
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>>147408063
Oh. That's in reference to that moeblob game he's tling. Sukisuki3.

Have fun translating a million H scenes again, Arunaru.
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>>147408270
To lead a more fulfilling and enjoyable life?
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What's up with SubaHibi? I thought it was "finished" and on the cusp of release months ago.
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>>147408297
Does she do anal?
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>>147407956
But half his former fanbase assumes Escalayer.

Also depends which Rance game
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>>147408391
are you going to end it if it doesn't come out?
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>>147408424
Yes sir. She would be a shit loli if she didn't.
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>>147408438
No, I just stopped reading VN's for a couple months and was surprised that SubaHibi was still in limbo when I returned.
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>>147408564
Good to know. What is she from then?
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>>147408915
Like I said, Sukisuki 3.
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Is that a sayori?
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>>147409180
Looks like Meiya's regal-ass sister to me
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Does Steam support combining separately purchased games to get Dive1+2? Or will they be selling it as a single game at double price?
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Can't wait to pirate all the upcoming localizations.
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OK I'm confused, are they or are they not using Aroduc's translation for BS? Supposedly SP's translation is mostly done?
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>>147409180
Oh wow, someone's getting fired
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>>147409789
Why is she so perfect?
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>Romeo didn't actually write Rewrite
???
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>>147410095
If it comes out relatively soon they used Aroduc's translation. If it comes out 2019-2020 they translated it themselves.
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>>147410305
What if Aroduc releases his translation first?
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>>147410095
They're using his tl.
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http://www.ustream.tv/recorded/89192715

28:40 to see the crowd go nuts over Baldr Sky
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>>147410482
That was tame as fuck

I thought I was actually going to see the crowd go nuts
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>>147410565

I hope he was being sarcastic. He should have seen the Hadaka annoucement, the girls in the crowd were literally shrieking and by midway the guys were getting into it too.
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>>147410482
Kek, this is nothing compared to the Fujoshits going crazy over that BL title at MG.
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>>147410735
>>147410690
Post a link of that time
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Nobody's bothered to mention that Eiyuu Senki has also been announced?
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>>147410773
Nah we did. But most of us that wanted to play it already did so anyway. The PS3 TL got a port forever ago.

I might be more excited if they had announced they were doing Gold, but not the vanilla title that I played months ago.
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>baldr sky is coming over

Okay jokes fucking over. MURAMASA WHEN
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>>147410826
When JAST finishes their Nitroplus backlog
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>>147410773
>poor man's Sengoku Rance
nobody cares
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>>147410863
I just want muramasa and jingai makyo, I'll be satisfied with those but I'm a pathetic eop so I can only wait.
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>EOPs
Too bad Baldr sky stopped being relevant years ago :(
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>>147410773
Not GOLD
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>>147410243
She just is.
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>>147410962
Why does that matter though? It'll become relevant again to those who want to read it in English.
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>>147410962
>JOPs taunt EOPs constantly about how we'll never read the 'greats' like Baldr Sky
>we finally get a confirmed translation
>"It's not even that good, you won't even be able to enjoy it in all its glory"
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>GIGA license
>Lose license
Literally everything is possible now.
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>>147411061
>>147411227
Enjoy Aroduc's rewrite, EOPs.
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>>147410243
how can she be perfect if her legs don't work?
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>>147411227
Don't sweat it man, it's a meme by this point
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>>147411283
I'd actually welcome anything Aroduc does though. His Duel Savior was fine.
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>>147411051
>>147409789
Okay, I know what to read after I finish Majikoi then. Karakara can wait.
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>>147411384
Just be sure to get the restoration patch and the Sweet Love patch.
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=501001760

Even then this tl can be a bit iffy. You can tell it didn't go through a heavy editing process at all. And there's weird stuff like translating "Jiiii" to "Yo" but then other times they translate it as "[Stare]" like it should be.

Still. It's cute. And funny.
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>tfw half JOP half EOP
I might just play Baldr in English so that's cool. Aroduc said the TL is near completion too, so maybe it'll come out this year.
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>>147411529
Thanks, Got it bookmarked for when I get to it.

Its gonna make me sad in the end because there ain't many other Pulltop games TL'd iirc.
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>>147411735
There's that one resort one but I didn't particularly like it that much.

Oh, and it looks like Nyaa has a prepatched version if you don't want to go through all the bullshit. It doesn't have the Sweet Love patch though which you need if you want to re-watch the H scenes.
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>>147411735
>tfw I really liked princess waltz
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>>147411227

>you won't even be able to enjoy it in all its glory

that's 100% true though, you're going to get a butchered version because of SP
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>>147411547
>half JOP half EOP
It doesn't work like that.
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>>147412894
Sure it does. I'm currently reading VNs in both languages. It's like choosing between speed & accuracy (and library of available titles). Like I don't care about Ryukishis prose so I read him in English.
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Is VNDB always this full of shitposting?
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おやすみ
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>>147413571
Why are you posting things that only you can read?
>>
It was a sad night for vn fans around the world, but at least we'll have some new vns to pirate
>>
Being a moegefag is good.
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>>147413779
>best game to EVER be announced for localization
>sad
uh no
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>>147414195
t. Dovac
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You guys think there's any chance for an 18+ release of AstralAir now?
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>>147414491
It has, like, 3 lolis. The cynic in me says no.
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>>147414491
They aren't doing one for Hoshimeme so what do you think
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sellouts make me sick
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>no sexual content
lol
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Are Sekai Project the best visual novel translation company in existence?
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>>147415401

Yes.
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>>147415401
Now, without a doubt. Leyline and Baldr blow out everything anyone else has ever released
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>>147415659
t. EOP who has read neither and is blindly following hype
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>>147415702
t. falseflagging EOP
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>>147415702
Fuck you!
I'm a true VN connoisseur unlike you dirty JOPs.
Just fuck off.
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>>147415729
They're overrated, bud. Sorry. Fate is much better than either of those kusoge.
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>>147415817
t. EOP

Also Fate hasn't been released officially.
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>>147415841
>Fate hasn't been released officially.
For EOPs like you, maybe.
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>>147415867
t. EOP
>>
KOTOBA YORI MO
KIOKU YORI MO
KONO TE GA OBOETERU
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>>147415462
Chuee, was that you who said that he has announcement about his TL project on Monday ? I can´t remember
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>>147416187
It's on the AstralAir blog. He said everything should be done Q1 2017. Which means we'll get it by 2018 once Sekai picks it up and removes the lolis.
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>>147416301
What a fucking hack.
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>>147416351
Well nothing's confirmed obviously. But I'm treating Shinku as an informal division of SP after the events of yesterday.

I probably would have sold out too, so I can't blame them for that.

Poor lolis though. Dovac will round them up and execute them. Maybe Chuee secretly has a loli-guro fetish and this is his way of expressing t.
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Wait so what's the next fan tl that actually might come out as a fan tl?
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>>147416301
Thanks, did not think to look there first
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>>147416675
Otome has 4% of QC left so supposedly that. I just don't know anymore now though.
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>>147416774
That's been inching along for ages hasn't it? Fishy
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So who won? Sekai or MG?
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>>147416876
MG, duh.
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>>147416876
>Baldr fucking Sky
>meanwhile has 0 good titles
Do you need to ask?
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>>147416675
Daitoshokan
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>>147416876
The english vn community won. They get to enjoy all these great titles brought over by wonderful and hardworking folks for their sake.
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>>147416836
Last month they finished the tl. A month to QC isn't that fishy. Who knows what they're doing. I think the 96% status update was posted last week or something.
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>>147416675
Perhaps Koiken near the end of this month. I wouldnt have hope for it though. The project has been stalling for months due to server connections or some random excuse. Expect for it to be bought out
Now that I think about it, what are the standard excuses for when a project gets bought out? There have been some weird ass reasons out there.
>>
What has Dovac actually done personally that can be directly traced to him by his own admission or that of someone trustworthy to deserve this reputation?
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>>147416991
Head of company gets to suck a dick. Ignorance is, under the law, no excuse for an executive officer to allow underlings to fuck everything up.
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>>147416991
See >>147399394 as well as loads of now deleted Twitter messages.

He has a habit of throwing tantrums on Twitter and deleting them later. He's also laughed at people on Discord for wanting ero in their games.
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>steam exclusive

another guaranteed pirate
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Why do you faggots care if a fan TL is picked up and the TLers aren't going to be working for you for free?

You're going to pirate the damn thing anyway.
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>>147417106
Because it takes longer to come out dumbass.
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>>147417106
CEN
SOR
SHIP
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>>147416876
Only thing Sekai announced worth a shit is Baldr. The rest of their announcements sucked balls, but I suppose all you need is one meme title to stir the tide.
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>>147417106
>Buying visual novels
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>>147417132
Depends on the translator. TY was worked on for 9 months I think.
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>>147417183
People like you are the ones I hate the most.
Yes, I used buy games online. Want to know why? So I can upload it online.
Fuck you. You're the reason I stopped and just used a private tracker for me and my friends.
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>>147417106
1. Because in some cases it is likely to be censored
2. In the case that a denpa version will be available, it is likely that it will not be prioritized and could come out many months after the all-ages version
3. Sekai is notorious for delays

This is not difficult to understand. And some of us DO support companies that we want to. I bought three copies of Haruka and I didn't even like it.
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>>147417293
>Buying visual novels
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>>147399394
>>147417060
I don't get it, if they need money then surely releasing a porn version would basically guarantee them cash?
>>
How much involvement does Sekai Project actually have with MuvLuv's Western release? They keep claiming association but as far as I can tell everything is being actually done by Degica and age, while SP have done nothing.
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>>147417516
If they do that, they aren't able to put the game on steam.
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>>147417169
Baldr Sky alone is worth the entirety of MG lineup
>>
How plot critical is Baldr Sky's ero anyway?

I mean, aside from the AI brothels and the time-critical missions where you have to prevent someone from getting stripped/raped.

Will they take the total replacement approach like Fate/stay night, or the fade to black approach like MuvLuv?
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>>147417516
VNs are still mostly pirated, people who would buy something only because it has porn are outnumbered by plebs who might be into anything labelled anime on Steam
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>>147417984
>>147418318
Why not release two versions? It can't cost all that much more.
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>EOP WILL NEVETR HAVE MURAMASA,BALDR SKY,DIES IRAE TRANSLATED

JOP BTFO
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I regret not doing wanko's route earlier
This is too cute.
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Kou is an AI
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>>147418878
>while you get a 7 year old irrelevant game we get Baldr Heart
EOP btfo lol
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>>147418878
Yeah, well, they're not even that good!
You'll never get masterpieces like Euphoria and Maggot Baits.
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>>147418908
I'm going to marry Wanko!
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Now this is a pairing that should've happened in the game.
Would've fit the agave-route part perfectly where both Moro and Yamato are kidnapped and instead of Yamato fucking the two girls to unconciousness they could've tag-teamed them both with Moro.
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>>147418596
they do sometimes, but it's low on their priority list, and they encounter stupid shit such as payment processors considering Nekopara as bestiality which Dovac blamed on being based on the US, in which case he shouldn't have done that in the first place but I'm not a businessman/lawyer
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>>147419178
Just by virtue of not being Yamato dooms any pairing from happening in favor of the girl getting a potential route.
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What vn's do the harem route right? ImouPara does it good, Bunny Black does it alright. What other games have good interactions inbetween the girls?
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>>147419392
Duel Savior
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I saw a gameplay video of Blade Sky and it looks ancient and bad as hell. I can't see it hype... OST seemed good though
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>>147419392
Rance once Sill gets frozen
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>>147419380
True.
I wonder why they're so adverse to mmf threesomes since several of the male characters in Majikoi are fleshed out a little too.
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>>147408073
>Even more so if "editing" takes longer than 6 months
Hello, I'm a fan translator, I'd like to clear up this misinformation/misunderstanding. It seems to be that you consider editing a minor task that shouldn't take nearly as long as the translation, given the quotes around editing. Well, that's just plain not true. The "raw" translated script that comes from a translator is pretty much always a horrific sight from the perspective of an English writer. There's pretty no two ways about the fact that when a translator gets knee deep in Japanese and translation, it's hard as balls to properly turn Japanese into English without getting stuck in Japanese sentence structure and whatnot, making the English read awkwardly. Editing is extremely valuable in fixing this and honestly takes about as much time as translating depending on the abilities of the translator. It's so intense that when I first TL'd a vn, I actually refused to read the translated script because it made me want to rewrite almost every line which would have drained so much more of my time. Editing is a big deal and takes a lot of time, depending on the translator. Definitely not something to look down on.
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>>147419380
A shame too that Yamato has basically become a Rance-like self-insert at this point. I like it better when other male characters actually matter in a story.
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>>147412994
>>147411547
If your JP speed is slow enough that reading a translation is better (note: English TLs ALWAYS are inferior to the original in a significant way, even if you "don't care about prose", translations are still impactfully worse) then you're no JOP at all.
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>>147419805
Editing is a profession for people who want to rewrite scripts. If you need an editor, your translator is retarded. Ideally a translator will do both translation and editing at the same time.
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>>147419805
I'd just like to interject for a moment. What you’re referring to as Linux, is in fact, GNU/Linux, or as I’ve recently taken to calling it, GNU plus Linux. Linux is not an operating system unto itself, but rather another free component of a fully functioning GNU system made useful by the GNU corelibs, shell utilities and vital system components comprising a full OS as defined by POSIX.
Many computer users run a modified version of the GNU system every day, without realizing it. Through a peculiar turn of events, the version of GNU which is widely used today is often called “Linux”, and many of its users are not aware that it is basically the GNU system, developed by the GNU Project. There really is a Linux, and these people are using it, but it is just a part of the system they use.
Linux is the kernel: the program in the system that allocates the machine’s resources to the other programs that you run. The kernel is an essential part of an operating system, but useless by itself; it can only function in the context of a complete operating system. Linux is normally used in combination with the GNU operating system: the whole system is basically GNU with Linux added, or GNU/Linux. All the so-called “Linux” distributions are really distributions of GNU/Linux.
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>>147419891
Ayakashibito did it well.
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380th for Saber
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>>147419747
>you will never take Moro from behind while he crossdresses
Why even live
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As someone who hasn't real MuvLuv and doesn't care about sex scenes would you recommend the Steam version?
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Nobody cares that KGNE has been announced as well?
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>>147419909
>Ideally a translator will do both translation and editing at the same time.
Like I said, when you're knee deep in Japanese that becomes way harder than you would think. There are lines I thought were perfect when I wrote them, but looking back I couldn't understand what the fuck I was thinking. It's no joke. Not to mention that even a translator that manages to shake off the shackles of Japanese grammar and "edits" their lines real time would still benefit from a full-editing pass - lines just frequently come out bad and can be re-written to be better. Even Conjueror and Gare have several passes and constantly fix/correct lines of their own, and I think they're the most "editing conscious" translators there are.

Either way, my point is just that editing is extremely time consuming and not something to look down on. I don't want anyone to see a VN with 100% tl and 5% editing and think that the translators are just sitting on a finished VN and trolling. No way. That editing is serious business and takes time.
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>>147420086
Muv Luv Extra has some sex scenes, but Unlimited and Alternative don't have anything that adds to the story. If the Steam version censored some of the gore or something that would be a different story. The gore scenes are needed for the shock effect, the story wouldn't be as good without those scenes.
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>>147420159
After reading a lot of nukige, I've got to say, the romance in most of these moege is really getting dull as fuck. The first 10 or so times all the icha and dere is pretty amazing, but soon the lines start repeating and the scenes start following a pattern and damn, it's like nukige does this love and romance stuff just as good as half these moege but without tens of hours of padding. I don't know if I can muster up the will to read any more moege if they're all going to be this repetitious.

And I mean, holy shit. There's all this big drama about the girl giving up her first time to MC, how wonderful and romantic here's a soft piano track... but dudes, I've fucked HUNDREDS of anime girls, this isn't "my" first time, this is just another anime girl staining my cum rag among hundreds of others, so what if she offers "me" her virginity I've conquered like 100 other virgins. Anyway, yeah.
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>>147419895
Nah the tl is way better than Ryukishi.
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>>147420086
Sure, the replacement CGs from the all ages/console versions that the Steam release uses are much better drawn than the original 18+ HCGs. Just be aware that you'll be waiting some months for Alternative.
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>>147420268
(warning: this post is not ironic)
The other day a nerd friend of my mine was talking about successfully hooking up with a girl on tinder, expecting me to be impressed. However, I wasn't at all, which seems to have thrown him off a bit because getting A GIRL is such a big deal, right? Well, that event made me realize something incredible. Whereas normal people who don't read VNs are stuck in virgin purgatory with a perpetual urge to get a GF and start fucking, I myself am completely satisfied both emotionally and physically thanks to moege and nukige. My heart is filled with the perfect anime girls who love me (of course, I love them back), my dick is satisfied with the huge anime titties and outrageously sexy scenarios of nukige. What more could I want? WHY would I want a 3D girl who's love doth not reach the ideal and standards set forth by moege? WHY would I want a 3D girl who's body cannot possible have the proportions of a thicc anime girl? I couldn't tell you why, and feel no desire to, because I'm satisfied. I have attained satori from 2D and that has put me above the 3D world and their struggles.
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>>147420086
Hijacking this comment to ask:

Is Tomoyo After (IAWL) on Steam worth a read through if it doesn't have h-scenes? Do they add anything to the original game or could be safely ignored?
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>>147420343
Do they replace the 'special' scenes CG, or are scenes like CHOMP toned down?
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>>147420674
The console version put Takeru's fingers in frame as though he instinctively raised up his hands in front of himself, which covers up the worst parts of CHOMP but makes it plainly obvious what is going on behind.

I think they'll restore the original CG as part of the free 18+ restoration patch, though.
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>>147419891
An interesting comment given that the focus on other male characters is one thing the Rance series does do.

In fact one of the major complaints in Rance IX was how much it focused on other male characters. Patton was as much a protagonist as Rance was, there was extensive focus on Hubert and Freak and also Rick.
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>>147420569
>Do they add anything to the original game
Not really, most of them were used for comedy of all things.
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>>147420159
I think you misunderstood my post in the first place. I understand editing and qc, if you are putting in hundred of hours of work then I get that you would want it to make it look good.
What I was talking about was the excuses most translators or teams give as for why a project could be stalling. And even if you were to account for that, stalling it for a year or more is just going to raise suspicions that the whole project was bullshit in the first place.
The sakusaku translation have been fully translated for over a year i think? Since then it's been nothing but excuses like editing while he was probably going through the SP talks. Or another example was Yoake? that shit was translated fully for several year and again it was stuck in qc. I could name a lot of other failed projects that were supposedly almost finished only to fizz out near the time the game was suppose to actually come out. Again, im not belittling editing but I'm saying it's just one of the many reasons that you shouldn't ever believe a patch will come out until it actually comes out.
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>>147420205
>sex scenes are not needed
>shocking scenes are
What about Twizzlers then?
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>>147421231
I don't know what the complainers expected. There was no good approach to Helman without spending a lot of time on Patton and Hubert. The only living male royalty besides Ghandi.
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>>147421864
I don't know about that to be honest. It's such a big part of the story, I wonder what all ages versions did with it.
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>>147421864
Twizzlers got me the most aroused out of all the sex scenes
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>>147422053
Hubert isn't royalty.

I liked it anyway. It still had plenty of Rance but it fleshed out the whole setting a lot more than the usual protagonist and 10 girls and nobody else is relevant.
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>>147421761
Oh, I see. I really jumped the gun then.
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>>147422202
Weird text box behavior, that was supposed to have "And his BFF" at the end.

The game was excellent, I have no complaints with it. I just wish Alicesoft would stop being so quiet about Rance X.
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>>147422163
You're the worst.
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>>147422406
I agree.

In any case the point is that the original comment was weird because despite what people think Rance is one of the rarer cases in eroge and in the harem genre where male characters other than the protagonist and the villains get plenty of development.
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So how far did the fan translation on Baldr get? Does all-ages butchering of a game meme apply to Baldr aswell?
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>>147422908
There's no fan tl, but it's almost done.

Yes, ero is essential to Baldr.
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>>147422956
Moogy-dono and folks have said it's pointless in Baldr Sky unless you wish to get raped.which we do
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What I don't get is why was Aroduc working on Baldr Sky at all? Hasn't he repeatedly said he hated the game and would never translate it?
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>>147423256
He knew Sekai was gonna buy it from the very start

$$$$$$$$$
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>>147423001
I, for one, want to know the pleasure of being cummed inside.
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What went wrong with vn translation scene?
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>>147423314
Dovac discovered Kickstarter. Everything was downhill from there.
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>>147423314
Too many people started degenerately paying money for official releases.
I everyone had just been smart and only pirated like me then this wouldn't have happened.
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>>147423297
Why are her coke bottles yellow?
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>>147422160
It's still in there, they just don't show any fun bits. The Twizzlers image is actually from the all ages version.
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>>147423460
They're full of her love you FOOL!
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>>147423440
Fuck off. The thing's that visual novels weren't supposed to be enjoyed by normalfags from the beginning. I don't want them dictating what is and isn't allowed in my porn. America is truly the worst.
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>>147423601
They're already doing that. Nekopara and its anime, KARAKARA, that HuniePop clone and even the censoring of good VNs.
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>>147423601
>waahh I don't want other people to like what I like

Grow up.
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What will happen to the lolis at this rate?
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>>147423759
Better start learning jap
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>>147423698
Go choke on your baby jesus' dick. Do you unironically think allowing moralfags in will do us any good?
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The game has mature themes, that aren't necessarily nice. The vanilla H is unimportant, but there's.. a bit more. I dunno about cutting/altering that. Depends on how much they'll be fine with on Steam. For those who read it: I'm thinking about stuff like that "red light" area scene in the first route. Or generally stuff that happens if you are.. "slow" at certain times.

And even aside of that, Aroduc? That doesn't matter. Look at Root Double. That had a known and good translator behind it as well. And yet they so horribly messed up the editing/localizing. Let alone that the way they released it was horrible. (very little communication, last day delays.. and when it came out all you got was a twitter message or something not even 24 hours before release..)

Do I have to write more? Sekai is unprofessional. There are enough times to make you think, they have no idea what they are doing. They don't seem to communicate well. They don't seem to bother with listening to the criticism they get from everywhere and seem to just assume it's not based on some truth and that they just happen to be the company everyone hates without any reason whatsoever.

Sure, things can change. Pretty sure people are waiting for that for a while already. But as it stands right now, Sekai has yet to release something that makes me think they could perhaps not mess up Baldr Sky Dive. We'll see.


People being excited is.. well. Probably unrelated to it being specifically Dive? Or maybe they are still around from the time where it was supposed to get a fan-tl? Anyway, the basic Steam user is important, and those seem to be not very fond of "miniature window" games. I'm not sure if Dive is actually good enough for people to get on the train after the release for that alone. Hard for me to say. Ixrec gave it a what.. 8/10 review or something. From what I've read, it'd be a bit lower than that. It's not bad but not that good either.
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>>147423928
The wallets voted and this is what they want. Nothing we can do about it.
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Important reminder that Dovac is killing the community
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>>147417667
I think they helped them with their Kickstarter, but that's all.
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>>147424062
Literally what happened to the Souls franchise.
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>Rance collects sea shells
>Yamato is obsessed with hermit crabs

Rance == Yamato confirmed
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>>147424031
>People being excited is.. well. Probably unrelated to it being specifically Dive? Or maybe they are still around from the time where it was supposed to get a fan-tl?
Baldr Sky hype dates at least to the founding of VN General, back when /a/ and /v/ and /jp/'s VN community were attempting to integrate into a single union under the /vn/ banner. "Kou is a program" has always had a place in the arsenal of the spoiler spammer shitposter, along with "The rain isn't real", "Maou is your brother", and "Sumika is a slut". Futsuu remains a communist detector shithead to this day.

>Anyway, the basic Steam user is important, and those seem to be not very fond of "miniature window" games.
Apparently bland moege like Nekopara series and those English-original Sakura games have been making bank on Steam because morons will buy anything with cute anime girls, so no worries.

>I'm not sure if Dive is actually good enough for people to get on the train after the release for that alone. Hard for me to say. Ixrec gave it a what.. 8/10 review or something. From what I've read, it'd be a bit lower than that. It's not bad but not that good either.
Maybe they'll release Dive1+2 together?
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>>147424278
>people say I cum like a pornstar. I wouldn't disagree with them.
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>>147424062
This image fails to relate to VNs simply because it's not a single "game" here, it's a whole medium. Even if normies all get onto the Baldr hype train, the whole medium won't shift to a more casual nature, or what have you. It's too big and there's too many players - developers in Japan will still develop what sells and what they want to make. Really, the worst impact that could arise is the west trending towards all-ages but really there will always be a nukige market to fill the holes left by all-ages plotge.
>>147424220
Not so. Bloodborne is even more unforgiving than any other souls game, and while DaS3 is easier due to QOL elements the single player base game is still the same old solid souls difficulty. If you close your eyes to all the social media hype and streaming shit, Souls is still Souls.
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>>147424456
>back when /a/ and /v/ and /jp/'s VN community were attempting to integrate into a single union under the /vn/ banner.
Vote /jp/exit
Take back control
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>>147424031
BS might do better than usual moege because the top down syumicrum gameplay is actually pretty fun.
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>>147424062
>>147424503
I don't think the part about women joining is really a thing either since visual novels for women are different subgenres. (BL and Otome. I mean, just look at how in /vg/ they have their own thread.)
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>>147424456
>The rain isn't real
What VN does this refer to?
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You guys should all play House in Fata Morgana. It's seriously the best VN I've ever played.

Ending was kinda confusing though.
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>>147424589
>the top down syumicrum gameplay is actually pretty fun.
You're underplaying the best game of all time
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>>147424757
>Fat Morgan's House
>implying I'm going to play some nigga shit
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>>147424757
How many VNs have you read?
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>>147424837
Around 15. Have you played it?
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>>147424837
Only Katawa Shoujo
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>>147424885
No, I just like hearing that kind of context.
Saying, "its the best VN I've read", with 15 vns read, is not a powerful statement xD
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>>147424885
>playing 15
That's not much compared to the other people here but it's still quite pathetic to read that many
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>>147424837
Recettear counts as a VN even though it only has heroines with sexual experience, right?
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>>147424935

xD D D D D D D D D D D D D.
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Kou is a program.
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>>147425065
Ain't in VNDB, ain't count. One determines how many vns one has read via VNDB's vote counter.
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I think non-ero baldr sky could be fine, as long as they maybe replace it with some other decent content. Baldr force was fine without ero. The only real problem I see is how long they'll take to release it.

>>147425195
Not really a major spoiler without context.
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>>147425460
Aww shit, I've always been terrible at games like that.
Sengoku Rance is more my speed.
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>>147425460
This is too flashy for me. I'm getting old and just watching this gave me a headache.
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>>147424837
Monster Girl Quest trilogy
Yandere
First Grisaia
G-senjou
F/SN
Dra+Koi
Kikokugai
Saya no Uta
Sengoku Rance
Planetarian
Jouka no Monshou
I did the first 5 routes of Hoshimemo and am finishing BBH. Just registering this here since I've no vndb
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>>147425624
>>147425719
This is at 1.5x speed, a plug-in you get after finishing the game. You also don't have to combo, it's just the most efficient way to play the game. I played the first 5 routes with just regular weapons and no combos. Took me around 10 playthroughs to level up all the weapons I needed.
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Remember that Baldr Sky is just a Kagami Sumika ripoff.

>BS has a pink haired worst girl cyborg bitch who ruins everything
Just like Sumika

>BS has a heroine who is present in the "fun SoL times" part of the story, disappears for most of the "grim robot times" part of the story, then reappears again in the final route
Just like Sumika

>BS has a character who is an AI amalgamated from aspects of a base character from multiple universes
Just like Sumika
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>>147425892
Remember that your dick is not wanted by anyone but the FBI.
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>>147425460
>fist fighting
>with a fucking mech
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>>147425728
>I've no vndb
All the kool kids have one, don't you want to be a kool kid too?
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>playing VNs fullscreen
But what if I want to multitask?
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>>147426164
Two monitors.
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>>147426196
I use a laptop on my bed though.
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>>147426164
>fullscreen
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>>147426164
>reading shit
>in full screen
Unless there are some game elements attached there's literally no point.
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If you were a 2d character, what VN would you like to live in?
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>>147426306
Majikoi so I can have friends.
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>>147426338
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>>147425984
I do actually. Maybe I should make one right now and log in IRC more. Discuss some kamige with moogy an co.
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>>147426338
The poor guy, my condolences...
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>>147426338
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>>147416301

Everything I said about the release info was accurate, by the way. I don't really expect this to not release in 2017.
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>>147426338
>he doesn't have friends
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>>147426767
Fuck off
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>>147426306
Kikocuckgai or Cuckokugai, whichever you prefer. I would love to be a cucked cyborg kung fu master. Just cuck my shit up, family.
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>>147426767
I think I'm beginning to see why you were so hyped for the upcoming Vita release last week. I mean, it's easier when you don't have to do the censoring yourself. Is that also why you posted that review on your site? You know, the one that praises the game but shits all over the H-scenes? Trying to sell an idea in advance that the game is better without the H?

Honestly I can't blame you for taking the money. It's good to get paid for the hard work. Just starting to get really frustrated with this censorship bullshit, especially with something I was really excited for.
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>>147427143

No, I'm getting the vita release myself. I'm excited for the new CGs and all that.

>You know, the one that praises the game but shits all over the H-scenes?
No, that's just his opinion on them. I actually liked the h-scenes a fair bit myself.
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>>147426338
Don't forget the waifus.
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>>147426338
If you want friends from a VN I have a perfect title for you; https://vndb.org/v12993
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>>147427463
... friends don't fuck each other.
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>>147427250
>I actually liked the h-scenes a fair bit myself
Then fight for a 18+ release. I know it's probably out of your hands if a deal has been made with SP, but please don't let them fuck us over.
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>>147424062
> Tfw VNs are borderline mainstream now and everything that made them good are being sapped away.
> Even ZTD, the finale of a trilogy was changed utterly in both structure and plot to 'cater to a new audience'.

I think this is when I reboot my moon studies and make fun of EOPs, right?
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>>147424062
Please don't steal my picture.

>>147428187
This thread is halfway in the dumps already anyway, you might as well put it down.
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So there will no H-content in Baldr Sky?
Any plan for patch yet? And how heavy plot-related are they?
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>>147428467
the ero in Sky isn't important at all and can easily be removed, Dive 1 has a few bad end rapes but Dive 2 has none and barely has ero probably since Giga realized that kind of things didn't fit the game

It's not like Maitetsu where there is a lot of risqué stuff even though the main game had no ero, Baldr Sky won't be impacted by the removed of erotic content
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>>147428615
Fuck off shill
The H-Scene in BS, while mostly trivial, further reinforces multiple common themes to the game. To take them away completely (a-la meikyuu style) would be a goddamn shame.

YOU HAVE ONE SHOT SEKAI PROJECT
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>>147428187
>and everything that made them good are being sapped away.
That doesn't even make sense. In terms of "serious" games, Island, Sakura no Uta, KaziBey, and Tokyo Necro all came out THIS YEAR. In terms of "good stories filled with good porn", Maitetsu, Akeiro Kaikitan, and Nora Neko came out THIS YEAR. In terms of moege, Hataraku Otona, Miagete Goran, and TONS MORE came out THIS YEAR. And don't even get me started on nukige! Houkago 3, Tenioha 2, holy fuck so many nukige!

And it's only JULY!

In ALL fields VNs have been good and solid. Nothing is being sapped away, it's not getting worse, if anything it's getting better. 2016 is approaching 2011 levels of "holy fuck these good games".
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>>147428187
What did they do to ZTD?
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>>147428615
Thanks god, I gladly sacrifice H-scene anytime for translated plot, this is not Rance for god sake and even with MLA, some H-scenes was out of places.

And do we know who is working on it yet? I skimped the thread and saw Aroduc mentioned. Is there any source for that claim?
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>>147428781
Sakura no Uta and Miage Goran were released last year
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>>147428896
MLA had precisely ONE H-Scene
O N E
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>actually being okay with any content being removed just to get your hands on a translation
Don't be this desperate, please.
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>>147428953
Two fampaitachi.
Twizzler and Takeru.
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>>147428898
Ok, you're right. I mixed up the dates in my head because so many of my friends played those two recently. However, all that means is that 2015 was pretty damn strong too, which strengthens my point.
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>>147428953
2, even if 1 was tentacle rape and arguable the hotter one to boot. Sumika's deadpan narration during it made it even better.
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>>147429006
can you blame us

I'm mostly concerned with whether the text content will stay. I don't mind if the H-images get heavily edited or removed or whatever, but the text should stay or you get the meikyuu syndrom of "jesus fuck did they really skip whatever led to yuuji dicking the bimbo"
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>>147429120
2016 is average so far, no big hitter yet just a few cool games.
Baldr Heart will hopefully change that
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>>147428615
>Baldr Sky won't be impacted by the removed of erotic content.

Yeah, because Dovac is afraid of bad endings with rape scenes then you can defend him claiming that these H-scenes aren't imortants.
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>>147429035
>>147429135
they were literally 2 seconds apart
does that REALLY count
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>>147429143
Yes because it's people like you that keep companies like SP alive.
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Do I really have the right to complain about butchered localizations if I'm going to pirate them all anyway? What does /vn/ think?
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>>147429006
Japan has been doing this since forever with console ports
Just hope that Giga will work on it and add some scenes in place of the few ero scenes

>>147429192
There is literally one bad end rape scene and believe me nobody care about it
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>>147429249
I pirate everything and still complain, I don't give a fuck
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>>147429006
What you should actually be concerned about is people who are fine with godawful translations as long as they exist. Removing porn, whatever, that's pretty minor all things considered. But a bad translation is the ENTIRE GAME being bad and is very serious. Turn your eyes to the upcoming Daitoshokan release. The patch is filled with translation errors and shoddy writing in general. What you should be decrying is being so desperate as to read such garbage just to get your hands on a translation. It's more relevant too because a lot of people will actually be reading the bad TL, simply because nothing else is available.
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>>147429208
>hyperbole

And yes since they're completely different scenes with different participants.
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>>147428615
So the game is more about friendship than plowing waifus? Cool.
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>>147429192
He'll offer the 18+ version on Denpasoft
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>>147429331
I rather have an uncensored game than a censored game with a good tl.
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>>147429263
>Japan has been doing this since forever with console ports
Consoles are consoles, there's no way you could get explicit content on there even if you wanted to. On PC however, you have a choice.
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>>147429384
I'd rather have an uncensored game with an impeccable translation
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>>147429263
I care about it.
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>>147429331
I'm the anon you replied to and I think both are pretty bad, but at least Daitoshokan is a free fan tl. SP's shit on the other hand is paid.
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I still hate Sekai, but I'm glad that they're doing well. It encourages competition
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>>147429523
enjoy having to waste 10 minutes in an easy stage to get it
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>>147429526
Also, I don't think what you said applies all that well to Sekai, since their in-house translations are awful on top of being censored.
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>>147429331
I'd rather have a game with all the text removed but the porn intact than a game with the porn removed.
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>>147429557
Yes. Expect Mangagamer to announce Rance and Eustia in Otakon. And Jast will- well Jast is irrelevant nowadays
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>>147429356
And who told you that?
Giga confirmed via twitter that they will release a censored version and nothing about future plans to release the +18 version via Degica.

That's one of the reasons why JastUsa refused to adquire the right for that game.
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>>147429742
Then play the japanese version. Literally same thing since you can't into kanji anyway
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>>147429742
Then it's not a game, it's just porn
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>>147429384
If you honestly would prefer "porn + bad tl" to "no porn + good tl" then you're pretty much an idiot. I don't really know how else to phrase it.
>>147429623
Daitoshokan's TL is on a whole nother level of bad. Sekai's translator for nekopara is inexperienced so he misunderstands context sometimes and gets the meaning of some words wrong. That's bad, but overall it didn't impact the experience much at all (as is evident by all the nekopara fans here). Daito, however, is completely butchered. Very consistent inaccuracies that go beyond inexperience and are borderline "the translator doesn't even know Japanese in the first place" (if, in fact, it's not edited machine translation in the first place). The experience of reading Daitoshokan with the upcoming English patch will be utterly incomparable to the Japanese due to this. It'll just be leagues worse. And yet, people will nonetheless read it, perhaps out of ignorance, but also doubtlessly because they have no other choice.
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>>147429828
The entire point of VNs is the porn. If it isn't there there is no reason for them to exist.
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>>147429824
But I want it to be localized so I can shitpost about it on /vn/.
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>>147429897
Embarrassing post
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>https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/tokyootakumode/sharin-no-kuni-a-visual-novel-localization-project
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>>147429897
That's where you're wrong

It's for D-grade writers to write and sell their 2d4u stories, and have to add porn, because otherwise it wouldn't sell
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>>147429828
No one gives a shit about all ages VNs you underage retard, fuck off.
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Is Momoyo's "a chipmunk" shirt a reference to something?
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>>147429753
Gigabyte has always been extremely wary of gaijins, dating back at least to when they sent a C&D to TLWiki. Perhaps the Rapelay incident got to them. So it wouldn't surprise me if they are the ones refusing to release a 18+ version in the West to be savaged by feminists. But

>That's one of the reasons why JastUsa refused to acquire the right for that game

Source on this?
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>>147429987
>kickstarter for an already translated title
When will this meme end?
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>>147429987
>change a few sentences
>Free $140k

I should do this for free money, seems weebs have a lot of it to spend
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>>147429897
THAT'S NOT FOR YOU TO DECIDE. DON'T YOU DENY MY ALL-AGES VNS. WHAT IS PLANETARIAN, WHAT IS CLANNAD
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Steam is killing VNs, and will continue to do so. Localizations are dead.
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>>147430096
>Gigabyte
*Giga

Fuck you autocorrect.
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>>147430127
I don't think they'll succeed though. This is just so... embarassing, watching a well-known VN fail like that
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Welp, so Baldr Sky is all-ages only?
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>>147430136
clannad had h-content, it was just all done offscreen.
Still counts.
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>>147430256
The EOP version will be
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>>147430256
Baldr Sky is 18+, that piece of shit Dovac dare call Baldr Sky is a steam edition though
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>>147429828
Don't lie through your teeth, SP translation hasn't improved a bit.
And before you claim the goods tl ones like Grisaia and Rood Double then these were translated by external translators and still they fucked the last one with his horde of eddtiors.
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Maybe they'll take the same approach to Baldr Sky Hscenes that age did for MuvLuv. They're there, but fade to black before entry.
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>>147399834
Primarily known for being the developer of Fez, an indie platform game.

He was one of the first people in the recent wave of retro-styled indie games (except his were decent). He won some awards and basically declared himself the messiah of indie gaming, but wasn't ready for people complaining that his game was taking far too long to release (5 years after winning a best in show for being announces) and people turning him into a meme. He quickly devolved into madness, spewing literal "fuck-you"s to his fanbase and rage-quitting from development.

If you have time or a screen to waste, he is one of the developers featured in Indie Game: The Movie. It follows the makers of Fez (Fish), Super Meat Boy, and Braid from early in their projects through to release. It only made me outright hate two of four developers, so worth a watch if you are interested in behind the scenes.
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>>147430486
Don't expect Dovac to do any more than outright ripping the h-scenes and placing it with nothing
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>>147430449
I didn't say they improved, I said they were bad but not enough to impact the experience that much in the game's they've released, whereas the TL for Daito is so fucking bad it will have a huge negative impact on the experience.
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>>147430486
so long as they're willing to actively acknowledge it happened, I don't mind them being removed so long as additional content is added to replace 'em.
It's one thing to create a game without any and it's another thing to create a game with them and then just flat out remove them and pretend it never existed.
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>>147430096
I don't have a source of this because this is a pretty old news but I can give you another source from a infamous queen drama that can't translate a shit.
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>>147430136
>WHAT IS CLANNAD
An overly long and boring VN with maybe three good routes?
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>>147428830
Awful motives for the antagonist, antagonist isn't even mentioned in the first two games, ? and Kyle never show up despite Akane saying that both would play a huge part. Changing from the novel-esque format to dorky cutscenes meant there's significantly less detail in the dialogue. Catering to a new audience meant that ZTD somehow doesn't even spoil VLR or 999 despite being a finale, and they re-recover things already figured out long, long ago. Shifting was super difficult in VLR and required Clover/Alice/etc. to help with it, in ZTD it's easy as fuck. Characters act nothing like themselves, Junpei is an entirely different character. Sigma (72) was sent to the past so he could use his knowledge to change the future, but he's literally the most clueless character in the entire cast. The way Sigma loses his arms and eye is fucktarded and makes no sense. The Phi-is-Sigma and Diana's daughter twist is forced as fuck, since her hair and eyebrow colour literally changed from VLR. There's literally zero relation to 999. Things said about Brother in VLR and 999 are disregarded and replaced by something entirely different. Akane's plan is never actually figured out, given that Sigma/Phi literally do absolutely fucknothing. The mystery behind Junpei and Mira's death in one timeline is fuckretarded when there was opportunity to do so much more with the transporter and shifting to explain it. Hamfisted writing. Mechanics that have stupid amounts of potential were never used to their full effect. The fragment system means copious amounts of redundancy everywhere. The BGM is almost entirely reused. Practically none of the major plothooks from VLR are answered or show up (e.g. Kyle, ?, Clover, Alice, etc.). The true ending is absolutely retarded and doesn't actually solve anything.

It was awful in every sense. I'm disappointed because there were some very interesting, unique ideas in there that were disregarded or underused.
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>>147430883
Jast truly best company. They could have shaken up the community and be declared king but they decided to stay truthful to porn and told Giga to gtfo. Simply based, respect
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>>147430704
> Literally removing huge swaths of jokes and outright scenes in Grisaia due the suggestive sexual content nearly omnipresent throughout the game.
> Not alot of impact.

Kill yourself.
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What are some VNs that let me have cock in cock plopping action?
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What's the Neopets of VNs?
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>>147431187
it never would've been released anyways. just look at how long seinarukana took.
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>>147431323
Any mobage.
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Now that Nekopara has an anime, which VN will be next?
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>>147431238
You are misunderstanding. I'm talking about the "translation", as in the translation of Japanese to English, not the final release overall.
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>>147430175
>Steam is killing VNs

This so much. The only ones that actually sell are the exceptions and memes like Nekopara.
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>>147431521
>no sexual content
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>>147431352
Still, they're truthful to their roots. Give porn or fuck off
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Sakusaku when?
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>>147430883

Meh. If GIGA wants to be babies because they fear reverse importation of a game thats already several years old that's their fucking problem. JAST told em to piss off.

SP on the other hand just sees $$$ which is dandy and all but have fun waiting 5 years for the game to be finished as well as it being of terrible TL quality and all h-scenes removed.
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>>147431864
Supposedly December but when has SP ever met a release they've stated?
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>>147431701
I don't think everything having uncensored cgs is necessarily great. It was Imopara that finally convinced me that Japanese can't actually drawn ponis and vagoo and they look really fucking silly.
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>>147430883
Doesn't "uncensored" in this context refer to mosaics specifically?
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>>147432424
Yes I prefer mosaics myself. I saw a slightly decensored CG of ef and the vagoo was a turn off
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https://vndb.org/v10304 haven't you guys fucked and sworn eternal love to every archtype a million types? why more moege?
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>>147432981
oh god just kill me. times>types
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>>147432597
I think we can both agree that having the option to toggle between mosiac and uncensored would be the best of both worlds.
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>>147432981
Man forgets. Archetypes are eternally fresh with just enough coating to avoid blurry memory associations.
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>>147432424
The art in that game is shit to begin with but yeah, most eroge artist don't do a good job in that regard. Uncensored eromanga is pretty good though.
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>>147433180
But don't you ever get tired of going on dates and doing silly things with the girls? don't you want more action-filled stories?
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>>147433429
Nope.
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>>147433429
I mean, that's a false dichotomy innit? Both are good at times. If you want the reality of the situation, action can be just as generic and boring as "going on dates and doing silly girls", buff dudes shouting and throwing fists around doesn't inherently make it more entertaining.

This is a boring topic though. Point is, archetypes stay fresh and engaging in VNs because over time the details fade. It's basically taking advantage of our poor memory storage.
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Hey, guys, remember why people used to post this video as a gameplay preview of Baldr Sky to get hyped for Futsuu's translation?

https://youtu.be/gzuNj36uxQw?t=1m4s
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>>147433429
Honestly? No. I play VNs to escape from my boring and lonely life. Virtual dates with cute girls and unusual situations is what I want, not half assed fight scenes. If I wanted real action I'd just watch a good anime.
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>>147433650
I'm not from that era but this OST is good. The gameplay is just tiny robots beating each other though? Do people dig that stuff?
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>>147433943
You have to play it to really get it.
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>>147433943
The OST is great, but mentioning that you greatly enjoy that particular track by name will probably land you on a federal watchlist.
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>>147433943
Chicks dig giant robots, dunno about the small ones.
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>>147433842
>>147433575
Thanks for answering. I guess I expressed myself wrongly though. I meant stories where dating is not the focus like Saya no Uta, Grisaia, ect. but whatever
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>>147433943
>tiny robots
in cyberspace, size matters not.
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>>147434202
>I meant stories where dating is not the focus like Saya no Uta, Grisaia, ect. but whatever
Moege vs action-filled stories, what wasn't conveyed?
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>Sekai Project
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Yeah, I believe this screenshot encompasses the situation.
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>>147434319
My mind is a mess! I thought you meant titles like Tokyo Babel where fighiting scenes and chuuni lines were the main element
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this game has a character with a giant dick (he calls it cunt puncher) and he has a literal rape chamber and rapes all of the heroines.

Guess the game.
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Seriously though, given that there are open tools that exist for BS I don't see why the community should have any problems hacking back in whatever content they feel should not have been removed.
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G-Senjou all ages, flopped

Tokyo Babel all ages, flopped

Is baldr sky heading to the same direction or will based dovac save us?
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>>147435114
Even thinking of comparing those to Baldr is dumb.
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>>147433943
Baldr Sky is the only gameplay VN that I would play just for the gameplay. The combo system in this game is actually really interesting, and unlike games like DMC you can combo any enemy, including the bosses. It's a surprisingly robust battle system, and it's not easy to completely break the game. I found an "infinite" combo somewhere in Dive2, but it seems like enemies have a small chance to escape any time you reset the combo.

Are you a bad enough hotdogger to play on the hardest difficulty?
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>>147435070
Genha and his bitches: when in doubt just rape

Pretty cool game filled with emotional scenes
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>>147435076
No one should have to do that shit in the first place.
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>>147435225
They do if they want it on Steam and it's too expensive to pay programmers to maintain and debug two versions.
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>>147435165
Where's Subahibi?
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>>147411529
sweet love patch does not work and will only cause errors.
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>>147435165
I've always been horrible in fighting games and I can't into combos so very easy mode please. And I'm guessing there's no demo for the game, right? I'm saddened to say I run a toaster so I don't think my PC will handle BS
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>>147413779
the fuck are you on about? Tons of new stuff announced.
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>>147435414
>I'm saddened to say I run a toaster so I don't think my PC will handle BS
It's a 2D sprite game from 2009 even a toaster will run it like a champ.
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Aw shit, guess I should really play BS before the EOPs do.
What's the "extra arms patch" that comes with the game?
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>>147426338
But anon, we are your friends
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>>147435582
>What's the "extra arms patch" that comes with the game?
The name would imply that it provides a variety of new weapons.
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>>147429249
I pay for my moege.
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What if Baldr Sky finally bankrupts Sekai Project? Would that be a blessing?
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What's the game Conjueror is working on?
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>>147435165
So I google it to make sure and you're vvav! um hum, I'm still a newfag on /vn/ but whatever. Keep bossing
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>>147435929
Why? They are finally localizing it as well as other titles many here wanted to play. Im willing to give them another shot.
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>>147435973
>hey guys, what's the name of the secret project that Conjueror is keeping secret?
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>>147435973
Muramasa
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Oh yeah, did Aroduc figure out the solution to Makoto's floating background text?
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>>147436058
kek
>>147436081
mother of god. this pettanko is god-like. good luck with this floating text though, Arodus
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>>147407569
NO NO NO NO NO WAIT A FUCKING SECOND
WHAT IS THIS
WHO IS THIS MAN
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>>147436676
Isn't he Baba from visual arts?
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>>147436285
This pettanko >>147435580 is better. Noi is best girl.

>>147435361
In the Endsky.
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>>147437191
Did you afraided of Sayooshi? Thanks for the hardwork
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>>147437191

>Noi is best girl
Agreed.
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yes, yes, well done MangaGamer, well done JAST.................HOWEVER
Sekai Project won AX.
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How is dovac fine with hiring pedophiles?
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>>147437610
I can only agree.

But im looking forward to titles from all 3 of em.
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>>147431187
If this was the reaction to any given VN without porn content, I probably wouldn't bother either.
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>>147437453
Aki is objectively best.
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>>147437402
Sayooshi has too many technical problems. Also, I'm not going to get paid for translating it, which is a bit of a problem at this point in my life. I have to be a shill if I want to eat.
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>>147437610
>well done JAST
Did they even do anything? They have mad potential but they won't make good use of it! And poor MangaGamer... but I'm sure they'll announce Rance and Eustia in Otakon. Maybe they can even make KeroQ change their minds and publish Subahibi for them!
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>>147435973
Eustia
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>>147437874
Yes. Do what you gotta do. I anonymously shit on Dovac but deep inside I know people have their own problems and bills to pay. Keep bossing
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>>147437874
If you have time to shitpost here, you have time to translate. Stop being a selfish fuck and do something good already you cuck!
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>>147438628
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>>147437772
Too much work to translate in-house
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>>147438628

classic eop entitlement
JOPs have to eat too, you know
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>JOP
What the fuck does this mean?
Japanese-orating pheasants?
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So will be there a +18 content patch fantranslated in the future? Or should we use machine translation
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>>147439064
Japanese only patricians
They need no English translations and thus have ascended.
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BS will be released in like 1 year+ just cry enough enough for the original version in the meanwhile and SP will probably listen.
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>>147439440
>SP will probably listen
Don't make me laugh
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>>147439150
Fanmade restoration patches aren't too common so I wouldn't hold my breath, but anything is possible I guess
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>>147439440
>SP will probably listen
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>>147439440
>SP will probably listen
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Someone bug Dovac on twitter about there not being Maitetsu information at AX
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>>147440604
>still caring about that borefest for pedophiles
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>>147442332
Fuck off Canada
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>>147442754
no but seriously its pretty bad
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How long does it take to become a JOP™
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>Subahibi release never
Kirby betrayed us.
I'm glad he isn't getting any money from the Japanese jews.
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>>147443118
1 year to read somewhat fast with jparser
2-3 years to read pretty fast without jparser
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Serious question. Did we come up with the term "JOP" or did it get picked up from somewhere else?
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>>147443329
I was there when it was made here so yeah, its ours
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>>147443118
I'm 3 months in and doing ok. I'm pretty confident I will be able to read most stuff I want to at 8+ months in at an enjoyable rate.

>>147443329
It was coined here around October 2015 by me.
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>>147443118
4 days of kana and 2 days of tae kim, i blitzed through muramasa in 2 hours.
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>>147443329
It wasn't really created by us any more than Benjamin Franklin 'created' electricity or Isaac Newton 'created' gravity. They, and the guy who invented the term JOP, just understood the world better than the people around them, and found ways to describe it.
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>>147443441
>It was coined here around October 2015 by me
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>>147443583
He's lying, it was me, I have the (you)'s to prove it.
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>>147443583
I could go through the archive to dig up my post I guess but it's made by Anon so it's kind of pointless.

It went something like this:
Some guy called another guy EOP. I responded to that guy and said something funny and added JOP at the end. Multiple people responded to my post with laughing reaction images and the meme was born.
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>>147443838
I just want you to know that, regardless of the veracity, that story was among the worst I have ever heard in my life.
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>>147443838
Nah, i was the guy immediately after you, i memed it to death for the month and it stayed, JIDF (JOP Internet Defence Force) was deployed in full strength. The battle resulted in massive ass rapture in every jop in a hundred miles.
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lol
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>>147444104
someone with shop skills should make an edit
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No I am the JOP meme creator
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>>147444290
People are actually doing something smart for once? Woah. Watch them buy it anyways.
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>>147444345
I sure fucking hope so.
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>>147444290
They said that right. No 18+ version? No buy.

At least he had the balls to give a non-evasive answer unlike the fags at the SP panel.
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>>147444290
I see /vn/ is prepping their twatter accounts
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>>147444385
I've been seeing a lot of shitting on SP lately on Twitter.
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>>147444551
Fuck no
>having a twitter account
>ever
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>>147444290
That answer is ambiguous though, they could be just referring to Steam specifically since the tweet about a Steam release was what was replied to.
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>>147444647
I have a throwaway one that I use to send insults to jews and pornstars
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>>147444819
Delet this
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>>147444730
Very true, but considering SakuSaku and that one nukige immediately got confirmed in regards to having denpa versions at the panel, I can only see the non-answers towards Baldr receiving one as an evasion strictly for PR purposes and that they won't be doing an uncensored release at all.

I suppose there could be other reasons for this, but it's still fishy.
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>>147444730
we know if a 18+ version does exist it'll most likely be delayed anyways
>>147444290
>that guy telling them to look up g-senjou numbers
sometimes I wonder if there are denpa sales numbers
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>>147444290
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>people thinking sp will ever get around to translating anything on their own
>being this naive
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would've /vn/ had the balls to complain if they were at Sekai's presentation yesterday
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Kou is a program.
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>>147445306
To be fair, JAST has never translated any of their games and always hire other translators like Aroduc.
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>>147445070
If that's the case I wonder if it's GIGA and not Sekai Project who are the culprits? GIGA has always been leery of the gaijins.
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>>147445437
This. Mangagamer is the only company worth supporting
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Is it time for the EOPs to complain about Reminiscence like they complained Muv-Luv Extra?
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>>147445606
MG is the worst, fuck off shill.
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>>147445659
t. Dovac
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>>147445659
How much does Sekai pay you to shill here?
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>>147445659
why don't you go and butcher more VNs Dovac you fatass chink
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>>147445735
>>147445771
>>147445830
Stop samefagging MG shill.
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>>147445864
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>>147445457
personally, I don't see any reason for SP to shy away from a license to put out a 18+ version of anything, they could just sit on it and placate people when if they can't confirm anything it just gets them bad PR
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>>147445771

10 whole sekai bux
They can be redeemed on steam to buy any one of the many sekai project released games on there.
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I only support real companies like MG and Jast
>fuck off MG and Jast shill
>>
>No, Thank You came about because they made a lot of money on Euphoria so she was able to work on whatever she wanted, so the idea of making a BL game came about. It took longer to make than expected, so they ended up spending all the Euphoria revenue on it.
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>>147446159
>nukigegamer
>real company
(You)
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How on earth are they going to do an all-ages version of PoAku when the game is basically 70% porn and many of the jokes and schticks are all lewd? They even have H scenes in the common route.

I mean, yeah, it's getting a Denpa version, but what the fuck are they thinking when they're doing an all-ages version at all? They're going to have to change the script significantly for it. It won't even be the same game.
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>>147446219 (You)
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>>147446395
the steam kiddies will be happy with anything
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>>147446395
I don't believe that got a Steam announcement.
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>>147446395
Dovac is just hungry for those steam bucks because his company is failing. He doesn't care how negatively censorship affects a title.

Watch the Denpa be delayed and also 10 extra dollars as well, despite it being a nukige that should've had that content in the first place.
>>
What's the best software for real-time VN translation?
>>
SP is killing VNs with all this no 18+ bullshit. What's the fucking point of nukige with no porn? What's worse is that they also edit the story so it makes """sense""" without the porn scenes. Absolutely retarded, all of this just to grab some easy steam money.
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>>147446553
A brain that learned Japanese.
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>>147446395
PoAku is exclusively Denpa according to their announcement
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>>147446219
>dovac
>not a greasy overweight mongoloid
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>>147446604

That's hardware, anon.
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>>147446615
"Boku to Koi Suru Ponkotsu Akuma - All-Ages Edition" is listed on vndb
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>>147446683
No the brain is pretty soft dude have you never touched one?
>>
I can't wait for everyone who buys Baldr Sky to be put on a FBI watchlist because of the title of the OP of Dive2.
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>>147446553
There's really no good option. Visual Novel Reader is a bit less shittier than the others though
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>>147445986
Your translator dickriding SP on shinku is sad. Please tell him to stop.
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>>147446736
http://us7.campaign-archive1.com/?u=74b800eadf353a0fe4d6dde43&id=b8f6c49290
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>>147446785
I say mean things about jews on the internet. I'm already on a couple lists
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>>147446785
What, Holy War against infidels ?
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>>147446945
You're onto something there, kid
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>>147430983
This. I was so sad when they announced that they werent releasing the 3rd game and so hyped when they actually announced after few years of fancampaigns, then we get that shitty ending and are never going to get the answers about Kyle or ? or any other mystery left over from VLR
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>>147446554
It's just want the western market wants. All ages steam titles and he is giving it to them
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Has anyone asked them if they're going to make any actually useful changes like upgrading it to widescreen HD and adding new CGs and scenes to replace the H like the MuvLuv crew did, or are they just selling the exact same game they made in 2009 with cut content?
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>>147445354
Please stop.
You're tarnishing the reputation of one of the best cRPGs ever with that.
Oh wait, Bulldog already did that so never mind.
;_;7
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>>147446838
>Needless to say, we’re collaborating with Sekai Project in this regard. I want you to know, however, that we didn’t do any deliberate stalling at all.
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>>147447954
>I don’t want to waste words on explaining why official localisations are in fact the best thing that can happen for both the teams working on titles, and readers alike
>and readers alike
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>>147448298
Well, they're usually pretty alright as long as it isn't SP touching it.

Even JAST despite their awful delays ends up giving us relatively good localisations.
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So, it's the end of fan translations.

OELVNs are our only hope.
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>>147449379
Not even once! The only evn I've played is TBEE and it's the only good one available
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>>147449967
>The only evn I've played is ... the only good one available
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>>147449967
Juniper's Knot is really good but it's only 30 min long.
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>>147446891
Which girl is best girl?
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I'm not sure why Katawa Shoujo always gets ignored in these kinds of discussions, it's a kamige through and through, not to mention it's super moege at times.
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>>147450404
How did you escape the containment board?
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>>147450270
Blue > Purple > Pink > Yellow > Black

You're welcome.
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>>147450270
Blue.
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>>147450469
I exploited a loophole in the rules that lets Japanese screenshots of games that have an English translation/version be posted.
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>>147450404
You're probably baiting but I unironically agree. KS is the only EVN kamige and it's even better than most translated VNs to boot
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>>147450774
No way. It's been like 4 years since I read the full game but I really did like it. It's truly unusual to me that it doesn't get more appreciation over here (when EVNs are brought up of course) given that it 1) has porn 2) is moe.
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>>147450160
I'm sad that other VN with Doomfest art died
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>>147447954
>>147448298
>that shitstorm in the comments
Kek.

>>147451146
I didn't care much for it myself but it has its own general and that's why it doesn't get discussed over here. Ditto for most nukige which has its own general in /hgg/.
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>>147451931
>but it has its own general and that's why it doesn't get discussed over here.
I was talkin specifically about when EVNs get brought up.
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>>147450774

>only

Undertale
Valhalla
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>>147452470
bait
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>>147452470
You forgot the Baldur's Gate series and other games made by the same people like Planescape Torment and Neverwinter Nights.
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>>147452615

Oh yeah, those count too
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>>147452041
There's also a general for evns.
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>>147451931

It looks like IroSeka is going to be butchered by SP as well, since the true route heroine is a loli. You can kiss goodbye to IroHika as well.

Learning Japanese is the key to not having to deal with that. Within a year you could be fluent enough to read IroSeka in all its uncensored glory. SP probably won't even have released it by then.
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>>147453491
Yes.
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>>147453986
Never fucking reply to me again unless you're contributing to the thread.
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>>147453759
But anon I'm a retard. Can a retard like me truly learn Japanese?
>>
How do we stop sekai project?
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>>147454352
Learning Japanese is just a matter of time. I've been an EOP for 2.5 years. Grammar largely stopped being a big deal half a year in. Since then it's just been a slow grind of memorizing vocabulary and kanji. No intelligence really necessary.
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>>147454352
It's not about smartness, but persistence. You just do a bit every day and eventually you get it.

A good example, of course, is moogy. A complete, full on retard and he managed to learn it too. You're not dumber than moogy, are you anon?
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>>147454352
4 days with kana and 2 with tae kim, bam, you are fluent, any retard could do that.
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>>147454457
Never buy their titles, keep spreading the word about how shir they are and hope they fall under the weight of their own decline.

How long can a company be in the red before they get into trouble? I know the IRS gets on your ass if you operate at a loss for longer than 3-5 years. And Sekai hasn't had a single profitable year.
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>>147454875
But that's it. They've never been profitable, everyone hates them, but they still keep coming back. It seems like nothing will kill them
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>>147455045
So, cockroaches?
>>
Can someone explain to me why in this particular instance people are shitting on SP?

If the game is getting a Denpa release, doesn't that mean its not going to be censored? And isn't everything that has an 18+ version confirmed to have a denpa release?
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>>147455412
even then, 18+ releases tend to be even more delayed than all-ages, and SP isn't exactly good with delays
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>>147455412
>And isn't everything that has an 18+ version confirmed to have a denpa release?
No? Where did you get this from? Baldr and Maitetsu will not get an uncensored version ANYWHERE from Sekai.
>>
Am I the only one who thinks asian 3dpd are complete shit? 2d looks closer to white girls anyway
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>747 posts
Get to it fags
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>>147455412
Oh hey you dumbass piece of sh-, ekhm, dear customer, wouldn't you like to buy this wonderful chopped up game and then buy ANOTHER patch to make it full again? Don't forget, incredible delays, machine translation and horribly money mismanagement for free!

That was a joke, only censored shit you dumb ass nigga, delays, MT and mismanagement still in though wahahahaha
>>
>>147455745
Every 3DPD is disgusting faggot. Though some rare Japanese like KanaHana are cute.
>>
>>147455412
They dodged the Baldr Sky question, so everyone is assuming that it's confirmed censored. Ditto for Maitetsu. No word on that at all whether or not it's getting an uncensored version, and considering the content of the game everyone is assuming it's going to get a Konosora-tier gutting.

For the other titles, it's a combination of the fact that we were expecting something like SakuSaku very soon, as it was announced finished more than a month ago. Now we have to wait sometime until December (?) and it could be even later than that for the Denpa. For example, the recent Grisaia is confirmed to have a Denpa, but they prioritized the all-ages release, and, despite countless delays, they didn't have a Denpa day 1 and have pretty much put it off for who knows how long.

Not to mention that one has to pay for the Denpa--content that should have already been in the original release in the first place. It's a frustrating situation.
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>>147455683
is this confirmed or speculation?
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Do people really think this
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>>147454738
You can't get any truer than this, senpai. I'm smoothly grinding my way through the grammar and kanji. There's an app version of tae kim's grammar thing on Google play, download that!
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>>147456064
speculation, but it's very likely that either of those won't be seeing a 18+ version anytime soon, it could just be the japs being scared of backlash and SP thinking they could convince them later on or something
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>>147456184
They don't call it eroge for nothing.
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>>147456013
Giga themselves already tweeted it isn't included, so yeah.

>>147456064
Baldr is confirmed. Maitetsu, well, they're extremely silent about it plus the hints which means it's pretty much confirmed if you look at their other 18+ titles - they immediately say whether it will have a denpa release.

>>147456184
He's right though. America and the western world in general is extremely afraid of nipples and lolis for some reason. We need a new Hitler to gas all SJW.
>>
new thread

>>147456445
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>>147456064
Speculation, but in SP's case not answering the question is the same as confirming that it won't happen. Nobody assumes Maitetsu will get an uncensored version because it's a lolige and they probably want to avoid offending steam normalfags. They've also skirted around the issue in interviews and haven't said nary a word on it in months. It's very fishy.

Ditto for Baldr. Denpa releases on other titles were confirmed on the day of announcement, but we don't have any confirmation on Baldr, and stuff like >>147444290 makes it seem as if it isn't likely to happen. It's always better to assume that it won't happen than assume that it will and just get disappointed later on.
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>>147456184
>want to play eroge
>get all-ages shit
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>>147456184
uncensored explicit content is (or was) the only edge the VN medium has
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>>147456184
there's nothing realistic about the way sex is depicted in VNs
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>>147456717
Good thing too. The sex in eroge is far more interesting.
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>>147456829
the point is he's being dishonest. realism isn't the reason he likes eroge
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>>147456459
>America and the western
I don't thin so, except America and some other obscere countries there are 0 censorship for exposing nipples; it's pretty common to see them in magazines or in the beach every day.
>>
I apologize for asking something that has certainly been asked before, but just how long does it take for Muv Luv to install? I've been at it for thirty minutes and there's no progress. I'm following the directions on the wiki.
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>>147458369
3 or 4 min but if you processor and hdd/sdd is slow then It can take 30mir or more because that game is hard compressed.
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>>147457753
actually going topless in america isn't really frowned upon, it's just abnormal so it surprises people. Especially with the increase in feminism as of late, nobody of legal authority wants to attempt any shenanigans in regards to arresting women not wearing a shirt in a public place since police are already under immense public pressure..

I'm honestly surprised that all ages versions of visual novels are even a thing here considering how easy it is to splice in an uncensor patch that someone will inevitably make and how prevalent violence is in todays games. Doesn't make much logical sense.
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>>147459208
It's easy to understand why they're a thing, it's because Steam doesn't let them put stuff with actual sex on the platform and VNs being on steam is the only way they're going to sell more than 20 copies.

The problem though is that Dovac is a faggot and doesn't want to release the 18+ content as a patch. He's too much of a pussy to even go the Shiny Days route and release an "anonymous" patch to restore the content.
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>>147462781
Eh? you can put that stuff on steam, it just can't be the majority of the content. A lot of AAA games have sex and nudity in them. I mean in saints row you could run around naked, it was just hit by blur. Nearly all VN's with eroge content are already censored, and steam is A-OK with boobs so long as it's done in reason.
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>>147463772
I don't think that the nudity in the average eroge is something that Steam would consider "done in reason".
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>>147464085
Depends, muv-luv extra/unlimted/Alternative if you remove the twizzlers, Tomoyo After, hell you could probably squeeze in Alchemy Meister due to the actual gameplay elemen,. would probably fall within the acceptable bounds since GTA5 and Watchdogs have you witness actual rape at least once. I don't think any companies have made an actual argument of it really.
Didn't Kindred Spirits have something of the sort in it?
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