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Mechanical Man Edition

Previous Mission: >>147096192

News:

1)Shen's Last Gift DLC Rleased!!!

2)
XCOM 2 officially coming to Xbox One and PlayStation 4 on September 6th.
>https://twitter.com/XCOM/status/740181548419272705

3)
Julian Gollop is working on his new game Phoenix Point. It's a turn-based tactical game with strategy elements, destructible terrain, geoscape and character progression much akin to XCOM. Lobstermen are confirmed.
>https://twitter.com/Phoenix_Point
>http://www.phoenixpoint.info/
>http://www.pcgamer.com/julian-gollop-announces-new-game-phoenix-point/

4)
Long War Studios are working on more mods for XCOM2. The first in a planned series of five is live on Workshop + Nexus now, and is called Long War Toolbox.
>https://xcom.com/news/en-long-war-studios-creating-more-xcom-2-mods
>http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=674832831
Also cosmetic mod author Capnbubs - maker of the most endorsed mod on the workshop - has been signed onto the LWS team to model stuff.


The /xcg/ Mandatory Read:
>http://pastebin.com/k9pT8zx4

Piratez mod for OpenXCom: http://openxcom.org/forum/index.php/topic,3626.0.html

<<Helpful XCOM 2 Links!>>
Assorted improvements (Skip intros, alleviate stuttering, multi monitor support, and resolutions past 1080p)
>http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=616682629

XCOM2 NEW AND IMPROVED MODLIST, updated regularly:
>http://pastebin.com/pTMatP5Z

NEW MEGA MOD LIBRARY - Contains all 180 mods from the new modlist:
>https://mega.nz/#F!HlgWjCqR!STJ0c0kW8Fs6jKynqKyerw

/xcg/'s Long War Library (New LW players read this shit or you will be ignored):
>http://pastebin.com/YmaXBKpN

Image Library of /xcg/:
>http://imgur.com/a/S1qfx

Music for Mechanical Men:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iGuuOdD6iY4
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Snek is only for love, not for shoot.
Robotsneks when.
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>>147238024
Overwatch kill notification mod when?
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Its the first day of the month! And yiu know what THAT means! Every first day of the month is a monoeye day!

Cyclops Mod when?
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>>147238689
>First day of the month
>It's the 2nd
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>>147238689
>Cyclops Mod when?

But anon, you can already have beep boop cyclops: >>147164462
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>>147238689
>first day of the month
>07/02/16
Confirmed. Cyclops can't see for shit.
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>>147238807

:o

THE DREAM IS REALIZED >>147164462

This is a triumph. I now have at least a robocyclops operator for battle. Now all I need is human cyclops mod when
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Alright /xcg/
It's been a month or two since I played.
What do you consider the must-have mods from the pastebin?
How's the new DLC so far? Are mods compatible?

Do you still need to start a new game with every mod you install?
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Reposting from last thread: So i have a couple friends that like xcom, and we play dnd pretty often. Since they're (mostly) not shitters, would a tabletop xcom game sound fun with each person controlling an individual trooper?
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>>147239749
>>147239914
You mean Only War?
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>>147239914
I remember a pretty long thread on /tg/ that lasted for a while. Guy was explaining how he was doing it TTRPG style. Even reported back after anothing session.
He also had some base-building aspects and an over-arching story.

They had plenty fun, don't have archive tho
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WHY THE FUCK CAN SNAKES PULL ME THROUGH WALLS
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Time to try another campaign, last time it was too hard, so i wanted to see if there were any mods to make it a bit easier, but a lot of them feel like outright cheats, the only one i found that seemed like it would make things easier on the early game is "psi rookies" which apparently makes a psi class similar to the vanilla one but it works like the normal classes, so if you get one you can't make them as strong as the vanilla psi operatives. Seems like a decent trade off.
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>leave xcg after first x2 playthough
>come back to cosplay cosmetics, nude mods, and no MELD
I don't know what I expected.
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Remember to take your meds /xcg/.
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>>147240775
Why not just use 'larger starting squad' to help edge out the difficulty while also allowing more variety in squads.
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>>147240948
Thanks doc.
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>>147240050
Was reading OW, sounds neat as fuck, but one member of the group (me) thinks 40k is kinda cringey. Looking into it though.
>>147240186
Awesome. I think we're gonna straight adapt the game onto the table, and modify it as necessary. What difficulty should we start with? Classic?
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>>147240975

Because i forgot that was a thing. I'll get it later i guess, also.

>Soldier screams "T-Tell my kids i-i" when he dies
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>>147241160

And by later i mean right now i guess.
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>>147240948
Thanks doc.
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>>147240948
Gracias medico
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>>147241784

Round 4.
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How strong is a full squad of beep boop?
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>>147243167
two of them made the resistance haven defence a cakewalk so I imagine very strong.
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>>147242216

Well i suppose this is better than the previous attempt at least.
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>>147243449

We also got that new class that is on the front page of the workshop.
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>>147238159
>Music for Mechanical Men:
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iGuuOdD6iY4 [Remove]

Fucking based.
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>>147244784
>C&C
I will never forgive EA for destroying westwood.
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>>147244784
Fuck I miss westwood. Fuck you EA
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>>147245424
>>147245427
That hivemind
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Can you speed up Mechanical Man repairs in any way? I find they take almost prohibitevly long to repair, my current one is gonna take 28 days to bring back up from 2 HP. Assigned to the engineering of course.
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>Watch old thread
>porn
wew. We came a long way
Also new shitty edit, rate
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I'm told shen's last gift is out.

Is stop wasting my time still mandatory?
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how bad is XCOM 2 again
is the version with the DLC worth it
is the base game even worth it
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>>147246675
Not terrible.

As it's on sale, yes, It's cheaper to get the all-inclusive version rather then just the basic game and the MEC DLC (which is worthwhile).

Yes.
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>>147243553

It finally happened, a mission went well. Too bad the mission took like a fucking hour.
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>>147246776
is the DLC going to be of any value if put less than 70 hours into this thing
because ive got like 50 euros on my steam wallet and i was thinking of picking up something else alongside it and i'd be able to fit in Divinity: OS (20 european dollars) if i went with the basic version of xcom 2
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>>147247048

These classes though, rangers never.
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>>147247065
Well, you could easily enjoy the game without it.
Just get the base game and pick up D:OS then.
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>>147247065

Anarchy's Children is just cosmetics, shitty ones at that.

Ayy Rulers are basically boss battles, some would say they break the game and are artificial difficulty.

Shen's Last Gift adds Mecs.
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>>147247065
>divinity os vs xcom2
Do you have a friend to play divinity with? If so then definitely get that. Me and a friend have been playing it recently. We dove headfirst in on the hard mode and have been having a blast.
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Mwahaha! Your tears of impotent robo-rage are as sweet ambrosia to me, Julian!
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>>147247805
i don't think i'd be able to rope any of the people i know into buying it, so i'll likely be soloing my way through Divinity. hopefully its fun and/or interesting all the same.
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So I bought the reinforcement pack, haven't played since release.

Loaded my ol' save, realized I could build the mech immedietly and it feels boring'ish. Seems I can't activate the mission cause I've gotten so far?

Same with Alien hunters I guess, saw some Viper King which escaped, I take it it's recommend to start a new save with the DLC?
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>>147249362
You have to start a new game to enable the missions.
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I can understand the kinetic strike being weaker in 2 compared to EW since it was a rocket-assisted fist in EW and in 2 it is just the sparks punching the target.
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So, I'm on my fifth campaign and just thought, is there a benefit for capturing the enemy VIP instead of just PURGING?
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>>147251743

Intel
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>>147241160
>>Soldier screams "T-Tell my kids i-i" when he dies

Imagine if we had something like this for bleedout:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ldNSMnEeKio
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PROMOTIONS
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>>147252612

>butt tattoos
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>>147252612
so there was a nude mod, every great game has at least one
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So, I downloaded the angry static cosmetic pack and the stuff I wanted (specifically eggsalt vests) isn't present.

Is it on another mod or it hasn't been ported?
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>>147253602
I don't know about that one but the "XCOM EU/EW Ports: Extras" mod has the exalt vest
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>putting a sectopod at the end
>tier 1 weapons
>on legend

thank you Jake, you fucking shithead
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>>147253897
When I mean vest, I mean the tactical one, like the dude on the back, not the suit vest.
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>>147254081
You have lily there to hack the thing.
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Anyone else see the new Independence Day movie?

Stupid movie as a whole, but it got kept me thinking about XCom throughout it.
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>>147254817
it has a million HP and you cant MC it
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>>147255064
>Playing on Legend without savescumming and mods to tone down the difficulty
>I mean, "balance" and "fix" the "bugs"
wew
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>>147254419
I don't think we have that yet.

>>147239514
As far as I know most mods are compatiable, at least people with huge mod pools seem to be able to still run the game fine.

>What do you consider the must-have mods from the pastebin?
The only essentials from the pastebin in my opinion are the quality of life and fixes mods. Honestly everything else is kind of up to your discretion right now on what you want. If you're looking to get a more specific experience out of X2, people here will be able to recommend the combination of mods and .ini edits that would be a good start. There's no "Long War" equivalent right now, so you'll have to experiement more.

You don't have to worry about new mods in the middle of a campaign, and for most you don't have to worry about turning them off mid campaign as well.
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>>147255064
You can hack the other MECs though to help distract/wittle down his armour

He has fuck all aim so you're bad if you didn't bring anything with suppression to keep him useless while you shred his armour.

It's not that tough, the MEC spam is the worst part about it,
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>>147255312
>You don't have to worry about new mods in the middle of a campaign, and for most you don't have to worry about turning them off mid campaign as well.
That's good news.
I remember that you couldn't turn off a single mod without crashing this save with no survivors at first
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>>147255792
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>>147255734
it rapes shen and misses no shots so get off your veteran horse

the generators supposed to help but its not enough
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>>147255852
Yeah, I pretty much avoided mods except for the really big cosmetic ones and a few quality of life ones in the first month.

Pretty far past that now, just the usual DLC patches that break mods, which is too be expected. This one wasn't even that bad, just a few offenders.
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>>147255312
>quality of life and fixes
>Most of them are actual, literal cheats
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>-4% Squadsight
>on melee attacks
JAKEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>147256293
Do you want to get bayonetted that badly?
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r8 my new squad, /xcg/
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>>147256139
I had Shen in heavy cover and a suppressed Sectopod failed to hit her or the SPARK next to him.
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>>147256293
>Body on the ground with loot
>Loot icon on unit you're targeting as well
What cheater mod is this?
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>>147256770
Bloated UI Mod

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=646244015
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>>147256897
No, I mostly meant why you have a second mob dropping loot. Only one should per mission. Being able to see which unit is carrying loot is definitely a cheat as well though, but may as well go full force I guess.
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>>147256770
One that gives me not one, not two, but SIX loot drops per mission, fully configurable of how much loot drops you get.
After playing a vanilla L/I campaign I'm just enjoying life with cheatmods for fun
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>>147257027
Well I suppose you deserve a cheat break after that.
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Pistols are Useful.
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>>147257107
Yeah.
Current cheat mods include:
No avatar project
Lootboxes with opening time tweaked to instant
No rookie training times in GTS
No time limit on missions
12 man squad thanks to LW toolbox
Not created equally and hidden potential thanks to LW toolbox as well
A couple of extra classes
Some shit that I forgot
and all that on difficulty just below legend because playing on normal is just too cheaty
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Coming soon lads.
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So are these supposed to be the new and improved Ethereals?
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>>147257307
>and all that on difficulty just below legend because playing on normal is just too cheaty
I can't play on less than Commander myself. It's just not the same game anymore. I'd love to be able to say that about Legend, but the gap in difficulty between the two is just too damned vast.
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>>147257402

That neck looks fearful flimsy.
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>>147257504
No, that's Super Saiyan Future Cyber God Super Saiyan Goku. He's just trying to help the ayyys have a chance against the might that is XCom.
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>sectopod as final boss in a mission that is available pretty much in the first month

Bravo, Firaxis, yet again you prove what fucking hacks you are.
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>>147257731
Nobody's forcing you to go to it in the first month, should've learned your lesson after blacksite/snek lair
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>>147257780
That doesn't make it less retarded. The entire rest of the mission is clearly designed for an early game squad, and then they throw a fucking late game mech at you. Even by XCOM2 standards, that is beyond bullshit.
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>>147257224
>battlerifle infantry with gunslinger
>pistol is basically assault rifle
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How much damage does Bombard on sparks do?

What research unlocks tier 2 bits? I've already one MEC autoposy.
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>>147257543
Got the head done.
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My new GTX 1080 came in. Turns out that even with it I can't get constant 60 FPS on absolute maximum settings (IE, everything max AND MSAA 8x). Only at 1080p right now too.
Going for MSAA 2x is an easy 90 FPS though, and MSAA 4x is 75, so still pretty nice overall. Not even overclocking the card beyond the OC it came with. Game is pretty solid 120+ FPS on max everything and FXAA.
Definitely a pretty nice boost over my old 670.
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>>147258646
>>147257402
Don't suppose you could make the rusty chassis of the Feral MECs a customization option?
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I FUCKING HATE THIN MEN
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>>147259625
Don't worry. We hate you, too.
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>>147258646
Is it hard modding the Mecs or is it like regular armor mods?
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So /xcg/, I just got my hands on XCOM 2 As a birthday present but I have a challenge.

To make it run on an Intel HD 3000 and 6 GB of RAM.

What's recommended for making this journey easier? Any .ini edits in particular I should try first? I'm not above total fucking toastermode but I'd at the very least like textures to look good if I can have it.
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Can someone please tell me where the fuck I can find the new Robot classes skill tree?
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>>147260469
Just give up and go toastermode
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>>147259425
Can't access DLC files breh.

>>147260262
Exactly the same and Soldier customization.
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>>147260817
>exclusively on PC
Someone should update this.
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>>147260010
So when's someone gonna mod these cunts into xcom2
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>>147260985
>>147258646
>>147257402
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=715887476
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>>147261317
What's the matter, Anon? Don't you like snek
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does xcom 2 run better no than release?
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>>147261383
Well that was fast, only a matter of time before all those crazy pitches that one guy made happy
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>>147261405
>>147260010
I hate the explanation for the change "they dont need an infiltration unit anymore"
Infiltration sludge enemy suddenly appears next mission.
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>>147261579
I just figure they found a better infiltration unit when they got the faceless and decidea to let the vipers be vipers now
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>>147261770
same desu
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>>147261579
Well it was all just bradford's conjecture, not an actual explenation
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>>147260950

My autism won't let me just plummet to N64 level. I want to acquire at the very least 22 FPS while having something I can enjoy. It's what I played XCOM 1 on, at the least.
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>>147261579
Faceless should disguise themselves as cute girls and capture the hearts and minds of X-Com.
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>>147261770
Faceless don't really strike me as the intelligent types nor do they seem to be informers or information gatherers. Oddly enough they feel like their just terror units which seems odd. The game just never really comments on whether they actually relay information, or if they just sit around waiting to rip someone in half with their claws.

Kind of an important detail.
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>>147262259
They don't seem to be an informer, just a plant that makes terrorizing resistance cells easier by sowing paranoia in the ranks.
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>>147261383
I giff rate up, good job mate.
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>>147261383
Good work man. You're pretty good.

>>147262358
Which is why they aren't really an infiltration unit like thin men were, who could speak multiple languages and actually were intelligent and gathered information.

Why they didn't make faceless do the same thing is beyond me.
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>>147258225
>>pistol is basically assault rifle

And that's really great to have as a back up for when the firefight goes on for too long.
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Man suicide breaching UFOs with a rookie strapped with HE is great. There were 3 ayys in there and he didnt even take out the elerium.
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>>147257656

ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT KAKAROTO?!
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>>147262489
Because advent already won. All they need to do is crush kill destroy the resistance cells and make their morale disintegrate. To do that, they need a paranoia-inducing unit. Not one who could infiltrate a hierarchical system like thin mints.
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>>147262489
>>147262891
And when they do need a real infiltrator they can just set up a resistance informant, genuine human, no risk on their part
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>>147263052
exactly

in fact there's a dark event specifically about human resistance informants.
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>>147263153
>>147263052
>>147262891
I find it hard to believe they wouldn't see the benefit of a shapeshifter as an informant. There has been resistance cells/resistance since they first "won." The concept of them not needing an infiltration unit anymore is pretty silly.

Just spread those suckers out like a net with real lives and identities and you're gonna be able to have an even tighter control on the population. Why rely on humans anyway? I was never under the impression they were experiencing resource shortages. Hell, they created an entire military/police force instead of recruiting among the population or using aliens they already had.
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>>147263551
Ultimately it comes down to xcom being a kinda pulpy setting, so there will end up being silly things like evil snake women, silver haired super sayiens, humans being randomly importaint in the universe etc.
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http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=715700207

Longer Names V2 to replace the original longer names which is not being supported and broke after the most recent update.

Is modlist anon still around? Feel like I haven't heard from it for a bit and I don't think the pastebin has been updated since mid April.

>>147263881
Well sure, just making that point since other people were saying that they really didn't "need" an infiltration unit according to what we knew about the xcom 2 universe.
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>>147241089
Whoever(you) thinks 40k is cringey needs to sit the fuck down and stop trying so hard to be an adult. It's made to be over the top hilarity and by god does it succeed.
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>>147265063
>40k is cringey
If I had to guess, they probably think the 40k community is cringy, and by extension 40k.
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>>147265301
Well, yeah. It. Yeah. There really is no defense for the vast majority of the 40k community.
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EVA customization options for Sparks when?
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>>147258561
7-8 damage
and I think the BIT is tied to the armor
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>>147265532
Its not THAT bad.... Just ignore the smell
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>>147255792
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Don't you love it when units bunch up like this?
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>>147238159
So is Grimy's loot mod fun? Can you still interchange and apply weapon mods or is it just fully random loot
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Post ayys
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>>147268080
DELETE THIS
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>>147268080
>LGBTQIA+
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>>147268080
What is the appeal of Muslim religion?
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>>147268889
>>147268080
Wait a minute, really what is the appeal when he's of a nonstandard sexuality!? Muslims would despise him!
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>>147268889
"I'm from a predominantly [not Muslim] country and want to be a special snowflake."
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>>147267885
>Makes a post
>gets overshadowed by people getting triggered at sjws in the next post.
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>>147268889
I hear its a really explosive atmosphere.
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>>147269094
I'm sorry anon, but I just haven't ever used the mod.
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>>147267885
I didn't find it that fun, probably because I kept getting shit like a grenade launcher with -6 mobility and +1 actions or something. Didn't use it for very long though.
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Any nice usability mods for LW beyond tactical info and inactive alien sight range indicator?
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>>147269738
Meh, if it is that much of a rng fest fuck that mod then
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>>147265063
Bloodletters hurt
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>>147270615
>2d10+12 +2 for every kill they get
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>>147270324
it is kind of an rngfest but then what loot mod isn't? There's some sweet mods on it tho, like +2 armor for every sword slash (Long Crusade) and so on
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>Shen dies on the mission.
>Quit game
>Come back
>there is a save file on the mission, load it.
>It autosaved during the Evac cutscene.
>Shen is ded.
>Get back to base, Shen acts as if nothing happened.

What do?
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>>147271536
Use the Shen fix mod.
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>>147271536
Whoops wrong screenshot.
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>>147269830
Ragdolls one
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>>147271689
Should I restart or should I just be glad for a bug in my favor?
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>>147262003
then upgrade your fucking piece of shit toaster retard
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What happens if I save her to the character pool?
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>>147272551
And holy shit she's 2036 years old.

Is she secretly Jesus? Does this explain how she came back to life?
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>>147272551
I have no idea, but you should do it for science.
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No problems so far.
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Thanks to mods we can even dress her in her regular outfit.
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um jake???
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>>147273794
I don't understand, Its just another ADVENT MEC?
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Giving her any kind of hat will make her temporarily bald.
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>>147273794
what? thats just a robot assistant to help you with your car of course
nothing out of the ordinary
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Editing her face or hair will cause you to lose her custom appearance and become a generic soldier, Same with changing her voice. Editing her name or nationality will also corrupt those as well.

IDK if she will keep her voice if you import her into a new game, lets see what happens.
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>>147274141
look at me
i am central officer now
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New games do not seem to want to load her, even when she is the only character in the pool and the game is set to load from character pool only. So I guess that's the end of this experiment. Maybe I'll try keeping her in the pool to see if I can recruit her latter.
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>>147274530
Have you tried forcibly loading her with a mod like 'Load from character pool'?
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Unfortunately there does not seem to be any mod which lets you use the scientist lab-coat, just engineers and dark vips.
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>Day 1 start building lab on Commander
>Get an early scientist from map scanning site, another from early council mission
>Keep buying any research discounts from black market I can see
>Get plasma weapons in May
>The toughest enemies I see are Mutons
This is getting trivial
>>147274530
Can't you import a character from pool when editing someone?
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>>147274691
>>147274678
I'll try that latter I guess.
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When did Firaxis art start going bad? EW Gene mod armor? Earlier?
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>>147274957
>When did Firaxis art start going bad?
That's a big subjective opinion there
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Fucking christ

https://a.pomf.cat/ywntqs.webm
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>>147275149
That's some nice removing right there
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>>147274957
They never did like sleeves.
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is robot punch as good in xcom2 as it was in EW? Or should I pick the other skill?
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I just wanted to post this
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>>147275149
I did the same, but with a reaper ranger
It was so fucking satisfying, I put https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N3472Q6kvg0 on and just sliced and diced
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This ingame encyclopedia mod is a good idea but the implementation needs work. I have no idea what it's trying to tell me.
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>>147276030
I don't know what its telling me either. I feel like I could decipher it if I studied it for a bit, but it looks like that would taek effort.
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Apparently you can get psi ops without a psi lab if you use the respect character pool classes mod.

Should I keep her on my bench until I have a psi lab? Will XP from kills be wasted? Right now she dosn't even have any abilities, just a rookie with white hair.
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>>147276802
>Will XP from kills be wasted?
Yes, psi doesn't use xp.
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>>147276880
What a dumb mechanic.
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>>147276030
>playing long war
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I thought we couldn't add to mec stuff. http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=715887476
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>>147278149
Why don't you just ask the mod author. He's in here:>>147258646
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>>147278149
>>147278427
They use unified bone names and skeletons, it was as simple as importing the already weighted MEC models after splitting it into parts.
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> haven't played since before Alien Hunters DLC but after the Anarchy's "Witness me" Children DLC
> got tired of dealing with HP mountains and RNG bullshit
> didn't play Alien Hunters because it looked like more cheap RNG bullshit would happen thanks to free moving uniques.
ok lets start a new game. wew, none of my guys look like retards in spite of having Road Warrior DLC enabled.

oh, i can take shen on the mission
oh shit SHE HAS EVERY ABILITY
OH SHIT, IT'S FUCKING TERMINATORS
oh come on, this isn't my first videogame, i know this wave-hold-and-retreat area design
i... i'm not crying, it's just the poison gas!
cool rocket boots. very rockety.
HOLY SHIT I'M OVERDRIVING EVERYTHING
THE AUTOCANNON SOUND MAKES MY DICK WET!
THIS BOSS FIGHT AGAINST A SECTOPOD IS ACTUALLY ENJOYABLE SOMEHOW?!
Wew lad this is the best game DLC ever i expect the developers to be in tears by what they'll see the rule 34 do with it, lol

also I played the Alien Hunters intro mission with the Viper King almost immediately after the mission. Though i didn't lose anyone it wasn't nearly as enjoyable, in spite of how awsomely OP Central is -- he dodged 3 viper grabs for fuck sakes.
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>>147278687
>THIS BOSS FIGHT AGAINST A SECTOPOD IS ACTUALLY ENJOYABLE SOMEHOW?!


It's not though. It's pure agony.
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EXALT
X
A
L
T
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>>147277706
>playing literally anything in the XCOM2012 that isn't Long War
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>>147278901
Is that an xcom declassified modle for that gun?
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>>147278851
>>having combat protocol
>>capacitor discharge
>>haywire protocol
>pure agony
how? haven't played the mission yet but shen looks fucking ready to murder any bot in her way
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>>147278901
The hell is that pistol?
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>>147268080
I'd abduct and probe that one if you know what I mean.
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>tier 1 repeater procced on julian before he got to do anything

Well shit, I actually wanted to fight him.
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>>147279115
>>147279197
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>>147277706
I mean I'd switch to XCOM 2 but I hear there's no long war yet.
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>>147278851
>It's not though. It's pure agony.
I was being ironic.
Of course the boss fight is shit, it has an HP mountain and serious armor. If i wasn't playing on easiest i would've been pulling my hair out too. Almost no one got out of the mission without some damage, but everyone did get a promotion thanks to spawn farming.
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>>147279602
Ah. For some reason, I can't get the game to let me upgrade the Alien Hunter weapons, I'm unsure as to why, so I've never seen the upgraded ones.
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So is spark actually good member of squad? Also how the fuck do you use mecs, I've almost never used them in EW, how do I deal with the fact that i can't use cover?
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>>147279183
Shen can hack the bots to death, but her abilities have cooldown and the bots spawn really fast.

Also they have 3 HP and 2 armor. Their own guns do one point of damage to each other if you hack them, so that tactic isn't as useful as it could be, and because your guys will do 5 damage on average with basic weapons, you can just shoot them.

The result is a slogfest.
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>>147279959
You use the patented strategy of killing everything on the turn you activate, just like the rest of the game.
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>>147279959
>how do I deal with the fact that i can't use cover?

BREAK
L
O - USE CORNERS
S
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>>147278901
the fuck is wrong with his face?
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>>147279851
Apparently you also have to do the mission that comes with the DLC to unlock them. Or at least kill the viper king. I did both on that mission and it let me upgrade the stuff.
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>>147280258
Those alien gene mods fuck you up good
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>>147279959
Mecs (and shivs) not having to use cover is the best part of them, it more or less breaks the game because you can use them to safely scout out areas, flush the enemy out of cover, and flank without having to worry about being counter flanked.

Their base defense is high enough that it dosn't matter that they have no cover, and they have more HP than normal soldiers anyways. Because they will be drawing fire, they will protect the rest of your squad, and since they can engage the enemy on their own terms without having to hide in high cover, they will get more accurate shots.

What I like to do in long war, is have two or three shivs on my team. They just scout, flank, and suppress, while the organics go in for the killshot so the XP won't be wasted (Unless it's an enemy that needs to die immediately ) The Ayys freak out, and half the time waste ammo trying to suppress the SHIV.
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>tfw
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>>147280364
See, I've done that but no dice. It may need to kill the King, which is hard because he's a bitch about things.
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>french julian

sexy af
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>>147280546
Apparently he isn't immune to cryo grenades so use those and rupture if you have it because fuck that hp bar.
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>>147280659
he isn't immune but every time you take an action it counts as a turn for him so he thaws out really quickly.
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>>147278901
CARTER?
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I noticed that SPARKs have a non zero Will stat. Can they panic?
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>>147279409
Oh wow, a Marfan body.

Guy better watch his heart.
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So my game crashes every time I equip my soldier with a hat or something. Anyone have the same thing?
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>>147281185
I had the same shit. Just disabled all my mods and started a new campaign, was at the beginning anyway. Looks like some mod is breaking shit.
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I'm going to be doing a replay of XCOM 2 now that all of the DLC is out, but I haven't even touched the game since February. Any must have mods I should pick up?
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>>147281185
DO you have any mods that modify soldiers names? Something like expanded callsigns or the longer name mod. They're known to crash games when equipping cosmetics.

Don't ask me how that works, but it does.
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>>147280513
I have to wonder why it has taken so long to mof the Shiv back in with its limited animation pool
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This is actually fucking hilarious

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MmE9vvsaass&feature=youtu.be
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>>147281402
shit, I do.
Guess that's it then, wasn't there a mod that makes you able to play old saves even with mods disabled?
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>>147281547
That feature is built into the game, it'll come up with warnings about missing mods but there will be a 'load anyway' button.
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>>147281524
Hah, he wanted to inhabit the spark, well now he gets to, careful what you wish for and such
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>>147281524
Is that...Brandon Keener's voice?
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I have two questions:
One: Is there a voicepack for russian voices? Not having russian is a travesty when they have fucking Italian.

Question two: Is there any way to make a punch from the mec have the enemies flying across the map like in EW?
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>>147281661
Thanks, that must've been added in an update, because I recall that wasn't the case before.
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>>147281821
There's a Cheeki Breeki voice pack
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>>147281524
> "comply with all operational directives as indicated by Chief Engineer Lily Shen"
> she's put shackles on Julian

So... Lily Shen is into bondage?
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>>147281821
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=623812197

Not sure, we're all hoping for a mod that returns KM to it's glory days.
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>>147282109
More of a lobotomy.
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>>147282109
Not only that. it's incestuous because Julian is her half brother.
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>>147282302
>>147282435
The "fan art" gonna go places, oh damn.
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>>147279959
>how do I deal with the fact that i can't use cover?
The same way you did it in 94com
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So what's everyone's favorite voice packs?

I like using STALKER bandit, Bob Ross, and Ainsley Harriot myself.
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>>147283016
I tend to use default or the russian ones here >>147282192


Most of the custom ones aren't mixed right and sound completely out of place.
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>>147279959

This is actually a damned good menu backdrop.
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>>147283098
As a guy who had enough fun with playthroughs with a serious atmosphere, I don't really mind much about ones that don't feel like they belong.

I'm just going to enjoy having solaire, ainsley harriott, and a stalker bandit taking out a sectopod.
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Recommend me YOUR favorite mods.

I'll use them no matter what.
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>>147283098
How much banter is in the Russian one?

I know Russian fairly well, and I recall absolutely loving the EW/Long Dong Russian voices due to how hilarious they were at times
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>>147283297
It's not that they don't belong, It's like, barely any of them have radio filters or are the correct volume.
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Do Sectoids still never take a shot on the first turn (unless flashbanged), or did they fix that?
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>>147283690
They will shoot at flanked/exposed targets now. Don't taunt them.
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>Pick up Xcom 2 because sale
>Spend nearly 3 hours downloading it
>Crashes without even reaching a menu for no discernible reason
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Kill ayys
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>>147283836
Was it the first launch.
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>>147283997

Yes, but the second through fifth still crashes.
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>>147284118
Well that is problem then. I hate to tell you this, but verifying the cache is probably the next step.
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>>147284208

Already did that. Still crashes.

Thought it was the fullscreen, forced it windowed and still crashes. Currently reinstalling.
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>>147284330
Post toaster specs
>>
HAHAHAHA A SECTOPOD IN MONTH 1
MAGNIFICENT JAKE
TRULY FUCKING MAGNIFICENT
FUCK YOU
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>>147284493
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>>147280195
I'm getting flashbacks from that one faggot from /v/ who was crying that Long War was too hard & artificial & impossible.

He was keeping us alive back then.
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>>147284860
>You could literally cook toast with it.
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>>147284836
Don't forget, Jake's Sectopod has more than double the health of a regular Sectopod on Legendary difficulty(40 on Legendary, Jake's has 90).
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>>147284860
>HD 3000
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>>147284860
I am so sorry.
>>
Are there any other custom class mods that are notable? The modlist looks a bit dated. I need to make my 12-man double/triple ayys run more cuhrayzee
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>>147284961

Craptop life my man

>>147285041
I've ran better, worse.

>>147285070
Thanks.

At most once I reinstall, if I can get it even remotely running I'm gonna fuck the engine .ini sideways until I get it playable. And if not, I'll call for a refund.
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>>147284836
>>147284969
>Jake, people are saying X2 is too easy
>I was afraid of that, what's their reasoning
>Sounds like people are just comparing it to Long War
>Hmmmm, what was Long War characterized by again
>Ummmm, never really played it but people like to post pics of giant enemies with health bars that take up the entire screen
>Well I guess that sounds good enough, give them what they want
>But won't it be too difficult?
>Hmmm, your right, just make it so that they can launch the mission anytime they want so they have no one to blame but themselves
>Brilliant!
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>>147285160
If you are absolutely determined to make the game run, knock yourself out:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=flN-N-QD-90
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What should you be doing with MECs in concealment? I'm guessing always having them behind full cover?
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>>147285547

Yeah I saw that. If 4000 has to get to Superman 64 to accomplish even 30 FPS, I'm not gonna bother to try.

Guess I'll refund and pick it up on the xbone in september.
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>>147285805
Have you already played XCOM1?
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Hmm
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haha ecks dee
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>>147285947

Yeah, I ran XCOM1 just fine. About 27-30 FPS until about 2 hours later where the memory leak fucks me to 18-22 FPS.
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>>147285775
Have them lead unless if you're being super sneaky. I've put them right on the edge of detection in plain view and they didn't activate pods unless if the pod walked into it.
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>>147286105
[robotic ayy lmao intensifies]
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>>147286105
>Reverse box stratted
Get rekt m8

>>147286108
Ok, just making sure you already had them since they are on sale as well. Guess we'll see you in September unless you want to get into the og x-com games.
>>
Kind of forgot about xcom2 after my first playthrough. I noticed the DLC finally came out so that got me interested again, but when looking at the DLC my first impression is like "that's it?"

Seems like pretty shallow content they added. Nothing like the EW addon to the first game.

Feels like I've been rused buying the season pass.
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>>147286248

Well, I do have those ones...

Maybe next time I feel adventurous.
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Just finished the first base defense on Long Dong with 0 casualties,what have you done today /xcg/?
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>>147286642
The DLC they added now is like the Zhang and French lady DLC with just a mission and some new minor things, where EW is an expansion, which is probably gonna come later.
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>>147286642
I'm not really sure what you expected. You got, cosmetics, boss aliens with bonus weapons +armor, and SPARK units. Both of those come with story missions.

EW was an expansion, the expansion for X2 is still down the road. If EW also came out a year after the vanilla game.

>>147286992
>French lady
She's actually from EW as well. I think X1 dlc was Gangplank and a cosmetics pack.
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>>147286930
x-com is alot of fun and it has like three overhaul mods for it right now, I can personally vouch for two of them. You just need openxcom, which is extremely simple if you own the game.
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>>147261060

>I NEVER PORTED ON NOBODY
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>>147286105
First time trying this out
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>>147288517
Looks like trash saved
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>>147286006
It really makes you think...
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good engineer build for Long Dong?
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>>147286950
I finally got around to upgrading to 1.0 and using texmods, and started a new campaign.

still on classic after all this time
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>>147238159
Anyone one else nearly maxed out their Spark Class? I've got one to the 2nd last rank and I can't figure out what their roles are, they seem to be a weird mix of everything with their constant jumpjetting and Fuck-shit-up super mode standing out. I've been using mine as a jump cleanup crew but not being able to slap weapon mods on them to make their 3-mag size bigger is painful.
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>>147289540
I've been using mine as a shot magnet. Tier 2 armor + bulwark = 3 armor. Final ability in future warfare gives an additional 2 armor temporary and makes attacks in a radius redirected to the spark.
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>>147289634
Eh, must be the better Advent mod but I almost every god damn thing shreads my shit in. At least having 6+ armor can reduce damage for the first few hits somewhat. They seem more powerful early game but their functions get replaced later when you get access to better tech, Wait, does their shredding effect go up in tier like the Grenadiers?
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>>147289816
Yes. Armor upgrades for them also increase their mobility a bit.
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>>147289165
sapper->HEAT->Repair->mayhem->EC->bombard is the orthodox way to build them

Can also try some sort of utility/support build but it steps on the toes of medics and sapper is still a mandatory pick.
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>>147289165
Engies can be built in a lot of ways, usually opinions are divided across people. I prefer the all in approach, where I end up specializing them towards one thing only for maximum performance. As such, two builds.

Grenading Engineer
Sapper > HEAT Warheads > Suppression > Mayhem > Packmaster > Bombard

Support Engi
Smoke Grenade > Smoke and Mirrors > Repair > Dense Smoke > Packmaster > Bombard

Grenading engineers not only can get absolutely anything destroyed on the field, but you get the absolutely amazing suppression + mayhem combo on the field a lot earlier than with gunners, which means you can eliminate those ranger 2hp moments at a point in the game where it matters. When it stops being common, you give your Engi shredder ammo and congratulations, you have a cover removing god with the added benefit of being a budget bullet wizard on demand.

Support engineers basically mean you'll rarely get hit, and become your saviors when needed. Activate 3 pods at once? Just throw two smokes and suddenly you have +40 defense all across the board for 2 turns. They can carry other support grenades like Acid Grenades, and ensure robots get seriously fucked the entire mission. On top of it, they'll practically be a requirement once capturing season hits, as they lug Repair around.

I got through Brutal just fine with these builds(well, until I burned out on landed large #7149 anyway), but a word of warning. Specializing these guys opens up slack in your squad, so you have to make sure that your roster is built to pick it up(so if say, support engi comes out, extra infantry comes out on the field).
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>>147281524
I actually really like that they made Julian a MEC voice.
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>4 missions in
>no loot drops at all

Not even destroyed one from grenade kills, what the fuck?
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>doing the lost towers mission early on commander
>2 grenadiers one specialist
>bots have 3 armor and no one can roll higher than 3 damage
i hope shen can carry my squad to victory
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Do Rage Strike from rage armor and Bladestorm stack?
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>>147295283
Should we tell him?
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>>147296080
At least it doesn't have ruler reaction.
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>month 2 base defence in FMP
>grab a sectoid commander
Fuck yes.
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GUYS.

IS THERE A DIO BRANDO VOICE PACK.
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>>147295283
update:
i made it to the first lift, one grenadier died waiting her turn

>>147296080
>>147296310
i know about the boss but i think i can deal with him (i hope)
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When do you get the Leader Armor?
I'm not 100% sure if I killed the Viper King, but I just had to fight the Berserker so I guess I did
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>>147296931
>already lost a grenadier

I should be yelling at you to just evac/restart at this point, but at the same time I want to hear this trainwreck play out fully
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>>147297259
You autopsy the leader then do the proving grounds project.
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>>147296931
post pics
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>>147280513
what's the base defense, the game doesn't say shit about it

is it higher than 10 like it was in EW?
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EZ
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>>147298598
Is there special dialogue for taking it down that mission?
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>>147297610
i got the spark
its not so bad, lost a granadier but got a mec in return
i am confident that with the spark and shen i can do it

>>147297948
my soldiers right now are so gimmicky i am too ashamed to post them
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>>147299052
Just do it

Suicide missions are best shown in pictures rather than text
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>>147298841
Bradford says something along the lines of: "The Viper King is down, but there are still more enemies blah blah blah"
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>>147299156
k
current state of the mission:
i hacked the one of the turrets and then destroyed the other ones with capacitor discharge
dashed spark all the way to the switch to allow my soldiers to start runing to the exit
they are running along the right side of the room

i currently dont remember if right now i have the mod that "fixes" hacking turrets
the tool tip of haywyre protocol says that turrets should stay hacked permanently and thats the fix
lets hope i am not wrong and there are no nasty surprises near the end
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>>147298598
I've only ever encountered the Viper King so far in Alien Hunters. Are the other two ruler aliens set to have the same sort of behavior such as taking a turn every time you complete an action? I imagine the berserker queen ruler would be terrifying when fighting if she can perform an action every time you do.
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Just lost a campaign on Commander to some fucking LOS bugs. Turns out that Jake feels like a full cover van with a VIP in it doesn't break LOS and that giving you control over the VIP when you're something like 18 tiles away and the door is still locked makes sense. Other highlights from that mission include:

-Spawn literally next to an enemy pod. Concealment broken on turn 1, before I even get to go.
-Two pods pull when I move a rookie next to the van with the VIP (again, in full cover, on the far side of the van from them). Game immediately summons reinforcements.
-A flashbanged suppressed Advent Officer manages to use Overwatch to crit kill someone who is dashing between heavy covers. He had my only med kit. That kill panics two other soldiers, one of whom shoots at an Advent Trooper, hits the van with the VIP, and insta-blows the van up, killing the VIP and the rookie next to it.

Central yelled at me. I ragequit the mission and scrubbed the campaign, because I had already lost two troopers, had 9 Advent facing me down, and had no real chance of victory, much less evac since I couldn't call for it (VIP rescues are shit). Thanks, Jake.
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>>147300214
So you quit.

That isn't losing, that's just giving up. You still have soldiers left.
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>>147300187
Yes. Yes.

The Archon King has even more health than the berserker. BRING FIRE AND/OR ACID
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>>147300180
my master plan almost worked
my soldiers on the left side of the picture cannot be shot by the turrets at the other side
but then the bastard jullian rose up the two turrets next to my granadier and specialist
all of shen's skills are on cooldown aswell as overdrive, but my turret, spark, shen and 2 soldiers can shoot the turrets
right now i am pondering if i should stop and deal with them or i should focus on one while running to the exit
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>>147300180
Pretty good so far then

You can do a lot of LOS foolery down there, so right choice. Don't forget Shen obviously

With your enthusiasm, I'm really not sure you know just about everything about the upcoming boss
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>>147300542
Mission 2, I was down to three turns on timer, outnumbered, had little in the barracks, had no real resources to speak of, and was about to lose my entire promoted force. Yeah, that campaign was scrubbed due to bullshit. You want to suffer onwards from a losing position, power to you, but I know when RNG rapes me.
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Pics of fully upped tier 1,2,3 Sparks?
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>>147300187
The Archon King you actually need to either kill or make him retreat within 3 or so turns otherwise someone will die. That asshole has the bombardment ability regular archons have but that shit will go off after a single action.
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>>147301763
Is the tactic for him to overwatch trap with one person while everybody else runs away and just whittle him down that way?
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what type of music does /xcg/ listen while playing
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Anyone else think Julius talks like a Gearbox character?
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>>147302001
The OST.
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Post abominations.
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>>147298598
Viper King cape when?
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my kingdom for a freze granade right about now
i destroyed the turret closer to lily to allow her to move forward and spark took some damage while moving to shoot said turret. now we have mecs coming, spark is out of ammo and my turret cant see the 2 bots down there, and they are to far apart to granade or rocket them

but haywire protocol is up again

not sure whats the best course of action, i am going to give it some thought
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>>147302003
I haven't played the DLC yet, but please tell me this isn't true.
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>>147303068
He is just very sarcastic.
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>>147303068
>>147302003

I wouldn't call it gearbox-tier, though Julian NEARLY gets there with one or two lines.

>I shouldn't have to tell you that you're walking into a trap.
>Commander, power readings have spiked across the board!
>Oh yes, that would be that trap I mentioned earlier.
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As it turns out, bulwark/sacrifice/T2 armor absolutely neuters Devastate and the archon king in general since he seemed to just not do much but move around when most of my squad was under the protective bubble of sacrifice.

Only outlier was my grenadier who was hit by it somehow. Probably misjudged where sacrifice deployed.
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>>147302323
granadier and specialist takes down one of the bots, lily moves to hack the other one and both spark and my turret fails to destroy that last turret my granadier is looking directly at

i just hope they cant deal 5 damage upfront, as long as he survives my medic can patch him up as he leaves. next turn combat protocol is up and with a mec, spark and my granadier should be able to take on the next batch of bots
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Is improved ai+true concealment any good?
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Sneks.
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>>147303613
>92%
shen is now taking one for the team
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>>147303613
I wouldn't stay and try to engage, end result is just a MEC swarm. End goal is same as the first floor, get the hell out
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More friends to play
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>>147303068
I don't think this post was related to XCom.
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>Pure virtual function being called while application was running

This is a Shen's Last Gift bug right?
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>>147303819
the enemy turret shoots my turret and misses, and the other bot instead of takin a shot at lily just gets close and prepares to detonate

with my turret and specialist i should be able to take out the kamikaze bot before it does anything stupid, not sure what to do with lily, spark and the granadier, maybe take out the last turret that prevents lily to move freely

i begin to think that this mecs are hard coded to try to get close and detonate, if so i might be able to ignore those 2 until the next turn i can use capacitor discharge
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>>147283489
Spectrum and All Pods Active. I wouldn't recommend using both together because Spectrum uses tricks from the Long War Book of Magnificent Design
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>>147304595
those turrets seems to have a hard on on mine
jokes on them tho, with their damge they can barely hurt each other
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>>147305214
Looks like you're in a perfect position to escape, what's stopping you?
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Admittedly my PC is kind of toastery but I was playing with max textures and a decent framerate before Shen's last gift, but now on minimal EVERYTHING the game is basically unplayable. Am I unique in this problem?

Is it muh mods? Do I have to go fucking vanilla?
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>>147305457
>>147305214
i was waiting on capacitor discharge so i can wipe the board and evac just like i just did
my granadier and specialist but my medic took a hit from a turret on the way out
i think lily will have to run the same overwatch to get out
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How would you feel if the Alien Hunter bosses reacted in a fixed manner instead of the free-turn that they currently get? Flanking the Viper King for instances will always make it find cover, Shooting Archon King will make him shoot back instead of nuking your entire team etc? Their signature abilities can't be spammed unless you piss them off (Viper king - Fire attack, Berserker Queen - Melee and Archon King - Grenades) Their vulnerability to frost and burst damage can be tweaked to make it less of a DPS burst race each fight and more drawn out to encourage smarter actions
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>>147305935
It would be amazing if royal reaction was nerfed even slightly.
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>tfw bad loot drops
So damn core hungry. So few ayys will just drop them for me.
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>>147305865
and we are out
quick question before i continue on: will the boss trigger at the end of my turn or unti i make visual contact with him? also will other mecs appear whitout him active?
i need to know if i can chesse a few turns from the cooldowns
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>>147306192
Only when you approach him.

>>147306190
You should always get cores in supply raids if you dont blow shit up
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>>147306447
I go though them so fast.
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>>147306192
>>147306447
thank you, squad is prep and ready to go
no pic because i just moved a litte closer to the tube on the left and moved my granadier to the stairs all ready to take cover
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>>147306469
I can't get through them at all even with 2 engineers working round the clock, there's always a more important upgrade to get rather than pulling the slot machine.
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>>147306791
here we go
87hp 5 armor
this is more intimidating than i imagined
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>>147307090
70hp and 1 armor left to go
also company from both sides and my medic took 4 damage
do you want me to keep posting every turn? or only at important events? at this point is going to be mostly point and shoot to the boss until it falls over
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>>147305770
What kind of mods do you have? I get solid fps with the "maximum" graphics preset on my GTX 970M. I'll occasionally get a stutter or hang up when loading or in an in-game cinematic (deploying on mission or Skyranger landing on Avenger) but these only last one or two seconds maximum.
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>>147308515
That's pretty much what I got before, but it got worse after the new DLC. Could be the new mods though, I'll go back to my old ones. I noticed worse performance in general after fucking around with Grimy's Loot Mod and that was before the update.
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Ayy
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>>147309026
Yeah I only tried Grimy's Loot Mod for about three or four missions so I dunno how that impacts performance.
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>>147309169
Is that a feather on the head of the SPARK?
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>>147238159
What the hell happened to Johny 5 edition?
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>>147309731
Yep, he's wearing a bucket helmet for some reason.
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>>147311025
>those textures
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>>147310572
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yA9WhYnsD_4
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>>147314035
That courtroom is kickin'
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>>147247193

SDK still broken, so today on Xcum we continue our horrible horrible adventure fighting the ayy scum, previously i failed 2 campaigns on gatecrasher, and then 1 more after slowly losing all my rookies and my precious supplies after we barely made it through gatecrasher with 2 survivors.

Now we have 6 squaddies ready for action though, so we might just make it through the early game this time.
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>>147314420

So far so good, a sectoid and his buttbuddies tried to ayy us, almost killed our sharpshooter but he lucked out and the advent missed the kill shot.

Now we just gotta hope we don't run into a giant pod with an officer or something.
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>>147314832

>tfw the sectoid hears you talking shit
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>>147314935

Ok, bruisers are cool.
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>>147315128

Snapadoodlezazzle it's an officer and 3 buttbuddies
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>>147315348

>gunner one shots him

>implying gunners can miss
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>>147315468

Go parkour somewhere else
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>>147315568
Nice outfit.
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>>147315568

And every soldier made it out, there was one more pod next to the evac but it was uneventful, 2 advent soldiers died to overwatch fire and another died to getting bruised.

The fucking sectoid nigger though, he took heavy cover on the other side of the building, but i managed to grenade his cover away in the next turn since he wasted his turn on a mindspin, and then we just shot him with our rocketeer and sharpshooter. Shot that nigga dead.

>>147316119

He came like that out of the rookie academy, ready and fashionable for action.
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>>147316515

I'm not even sure what skill to get here, but more aim is always good so i guess spotter is better? I'll just take that.
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>>147316643

And we got the ayy hunter weapons. I never actually used the axe and pistol, only the bolt caster.

And i've never fought the ayy kings, but i don't plan on trying until i have T3 gear. I also got the shen's last gift mission or something apparently, but i think i want at least T2 for that. Sectopods are 2 spooky.
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>>147316807

Fuuuuug, it's that time of the month again.
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Might be time to build an AWC...
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>>147316643
>"returns fire up to once per enemy times per turn"
What the actual fuck does that mean?
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>>147316904

We got one of those psi rookies for this, but i doubt it'll make things much easier. I can't wait to get my face eaten by a faceless
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>>147317132
>psi operators in the first month
How'd you manage that?
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>>147317125

I assume it means he returns fire only to the first enemy that attacks him.

>>147317190

I got my butt blasted so hard in the previous tries that i looked for cheats to make it easier, psi rookies is one.

They're rookies that come as psi operatives but they can't get all the psi abilities like the normal psi operatives since they level up like a normal class.

Right now i don't even have a gts because i had to buy more rookies.
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>>147317282

Oh god no plz no
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>>147317380

>tfw they stand right next to a mountain of fuel
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>>147317524

WELP, there goes our mvp gunner.
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>>147317125
>>147316643
Spotter is like covering fire and holo-targeting meshed into one skill, that activates whenever any enemy attacks a Bruiser and has no limit on how many can be activated

Survival Instinct is like covering fire and blast padding meshed together and has the same rules as Spotter, minus the holo-targeting.
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>>147317640

These fucking healsluts make me so nervous, no healing allowed.

Things are going """"well"""" with our troops, we lost the gunner but other than that things are working out nicely, but there's a fucking sectoid on the other side of the map killing 1 civilian per turn.
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>>147317981

>We call this pod, "one of everything please"

There's also an officer inside.
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>>147316643
>same hair and face as my star sniper
>fashionable as fuck
Yessss. More aim is good.

>>147316904
Good way to think about terror missions.

>>147318221
Dear god what mod is that?
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>>147318221

>healslut kills a civie

Fucking nigger
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>>147318387

Man, what the fuck. 2 Overwatches, one sectoid and one priest in heavy cover and i have no rockets and no grenade can reach that far, even my gremlin is out of range so i can't combat protocol one of them. And if i just wait i bet they're going to kill another civie and the mission will fail.

So, here's my best guess, maybe since my bruiser is in heavy cover and there's smoke all around him i can kill one of them with him, and then move my psi foward to stasis one of them, then i can hurt another one with combat protocol and hope everything works out nicely.

Or my bruiser dies instantly and then they kill me.
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>>147318640

FUG, the officer missed though but we might just lose our bruiser next turn.
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And once again, only the tier1 things look good. They really should get a new designer because the midgame armors look fucking retarded.

havent played for a while, are there any mods on nexus that are good and arent on the workshop?
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>>147318829

Oh god, he lived. I used aid protocol instead of combat in hopes of saving him and i used stasis on the officers. The trooper overwatched and the sectoid did nothing, literally nothing.

>>147318356

>Dear god what mod is that?

No clue, i'm guessing the priest mod since there's a priest in the club. I think the officer might be from a previous pod and he ran away to join the team.
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>>147318938
Why do the tier 2 and 3 armors look bad?
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>>147318938

There's lots that I know of on the steam workshop but not the nexus.

If you're a pirate can you just get someone to upload them for you?
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>>147318975

Everything's working out, healed our bruiser with a heal grenade, flanked the officer, dodged the officer's attack and the sectoid ran away and made our psi panic.
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>>147319224

Oh boy here we go
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>>147319106
tier2 is somewhat acceptable but still weird, 3 is way too shiny and smooth. Doesnt look functional at all and completly out of place compared to the game world.
Whenever i see the warsuit i cringe thinking that massive arm thing on the shoulders would get caught in something and rip half of the armor off. Its just a horrible design.
They said that the only reason the ayys use shiny crap is to look impressive, how the fuck does xcom gets mixed up in this?
also, the customization options completly disappear with tier3, another annoying shit.

>>147319172
nigga im on steam but havent checked in with the nexus for xcom ever. I used to upload mods for pirates on the first few weeks.
Just askin to see if there are any of the retarded "nexus exclusive" crap goin on again.
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>>147319394

Welp, we won but we lost our gunner who had a perfect track record.
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>>147319458
Just get the XCOM 1 armor imports. There's carapace and power armor. Also there's the Halo armor for more tier 3 stuff, or halo marines for tier 1 or 2.
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>>147319573

Now these skills for bruiser are more interesting, on one hand one is better for killing things, but the other might make it easier to send him on suicide missions. Not sure which one to pick.
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>>147319704

>-6 mobility

So that's awful right? I don't think that trade off is good enough.
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Any chance the dlcs will get a bigger discount some time soon?
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>>147319807

>not even one alloy

JUST
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>>147319458

Oh no then there's nothing that I found on xcom nexus that was exclusive to it. There are more steam exclusives (I imagine by laziness rather than intent)

>>147319106

Best approach to make is:

Armor T1: Either civvie type outfits, the BDUs >>147318938 , and Xcom 2 Vanilla Kevlar if you feel it.
Weapon T1: The realism weapons or Xcom2 T1 weapons.

Armor T2: Xcom2 vanilla kevlar if you feel it, Advent style armor, Xcom1 Metal armor ported over ( http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=660878813&searchtext=xcom+1 ) or Halo Marine/ODST armor or the titanfall armor ( http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=650731226&searchtext=titanfall )
Weapon T2: Vanilla Gauss/magnetics and/or the Halo reach weapons.
Armor t3: Xcom1 ported over Titan armor ( http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=660521897 ) or the bonanza of halo power armor (which looks more rugged and less polished than the titan armor) or WA's power armor ( http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=653902466 ).

Weapon T3: Keep the upgraded tier of Halo reach weapons (same stats as plasma), accept vanilla plasma, or the fantastic looking but still wip mercenary plasma ( http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=707170261 )

This is the ODST armor, although I have a weird issue with the shine/specularity/gloss on the legs (and sometimes the arms). If you run http://www.nexusmods.com/xcom2/mods/141/? then it will make the shiny legs more acceptable.
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>>147320008

Xcom1 Carapiece with a Halo helmet.
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>>147319613
>>147320008
Im runnin with the mgs commie armors and the tiered normie guns.

I just wish they would add something actually usable with the dlcs. Same bullshit with the new mech, tier1-nice believable look. Anything above goes full-retard.

Maybe ill upgrade to the halo armor lategame.
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>>147320195

This point I feel like I'll have to write off Firaxis' art direction with any future Xcom2 DLC or expansions. I don't know what is going on but it's the era of Apocalypse 2.0. Just thank god that we have mods and people willing to port over stuff.
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>>147319961

We can finally afford(muh headcanon) some fancy armor for our bruiser, now we just need to make sure he doesn't die like a scrub.

I also remembered i have the frost grenade, so i put that on a grenadier hopefully on the correct slot and hopefully it gives us 2 charges.
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>>147320398

>x1

Welp, i suppose it would be too broken if it wasn't this way.
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>>147320398
Which mod has bradfords shirt? I remember i got it once but it completly fucked up my game.
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>>147320504
something xcom 1 extras something
its from the same author that made the port of the T2 and T3 of xcom1 he links all his mods together in the description so you wont have a problem finding it
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>>147320480

Actually i just remembered you need a perk to get 2 grenades.

Also this skill seems awfully good, i think it's from the spec ops class that's always on the front page of the workshop.
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>>147320592
>This profile is private
reeee.jpg
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>>147320504

I think it's this one:

http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=673627042

>>147320646

That skill didn't work so well, i guess if i had killed the sectoid she would've stayed concealed though.
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>>147320806
i guess thats why he links all his mods in the descriptions

also i am sorry i thought you meant the bradford's sweater
(the mod gave me problems before and i jumped to conclucions)
this is the one i meant: http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=696566464

but i think you asked for this one: >>147320890
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>>147320890

This mission has been bananas, priests, lancers, sectoids all over the place. And we lost our fancy spec ops, but she was B team anyway so whatever.
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>>147321986

This fucking sectoid is a rapist
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>>147322123

Sectoid? more like, deadtoid.
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>>147322201

Good lord, someone should make a "sectoid trooper" no psi abilities, just shooting abilities. Give him faceoff.
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>>147322309

Maybe i'm stupid but i picked draw fire, we need to get this man a war suit and some vests.
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>>147322370

>no crit

Into the trash it goes. maybe
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So I'm assuming it's worth it to wait until you have some promotions / gear before you tackle Jake's magnificent Sectopod hell?
I tried it in the first month and it wasn't pretty
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Advise a pleb on XCOM. I played through 2 on release, and I want to do another run. Since then all the DLC has come out.

All of the steam reviews say alien hunters is shit and shouldn't be installed. Is that right? Is there a mod that retains the content and makes it fun?

As an aside I ran into several game breaking glitches last time and had to load my way out of them, now I want to do an Ironman run. Has shit been fixed?
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>>147323047
People shitting on ayylien hunters are babbies who can't deal with a bit of extra challenge, like, THREE times during the entire campaign.
Just pack repeaters, have frost nades on a salvo grenadier and don't take on the mission early.
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>>147323047

I wouldn't say that alien hunters is shit, it's just that the alien rulers are ridiculously bullshit.

That said, you can get the dlc, activate it, do the first beacon to get the weapons and then you can just not do the alien hunters mission if you don't want, if you don't do the mission you don't have to deal with the alien kings. But killing the kings lets you get their bodies as armor. It also comes with some cosmetics here and there.

Anarchy's Children is just cosmetics and Shen's Last Gift adds Sparks, Xcom2's version of Mecs. If you liked Xcom2 you should probably just get the DLCs.
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>>147322974
I'd wait for at least mag/carapace and bluescreen rounds/emp nades before taking it on.

Also, adding damage to flashbangs makes them extremely broken, but damn son this explosion range.
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>doing Lost Tower with half the A-team.
>tfw feral MECs have 4+3HP on Legend

Good thing I have mag weapons and 2 rocketeers with shredder rockets. This mission is painful.
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Other folks running the halo ODST or marine armor have an unnatural shine to their armor/clothing from said pack too, right?
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>overwatch shots don't give holo-targetting anymore

What the faggy fuck is this shit now my goddamn gunner is worthless.
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>>147325497
Does holo at least persist through the enemy turn in case you suppress and they move?
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>drone pods
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And done.
Didn't even use up all my rockets/smokes.
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More magnificent mods when?
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What happened to the theory about commander being an ethereal?

I haven't played 2 but I recall a human being saved there.
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>>147318387
What mod is that that shows info on stats in lifebar
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>>147328440

http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=646244015
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>apply a camo to a SPARK
>Primary/Secondary colour zones on armour goes out the window

This triggers me
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remuv snek
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Tier 2 and 3 Spatk pics?
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>>147329146

http://imgur.com/a/4jY5C
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>flamethrower for spark

yay or nay?
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>>147238159
Oh look it's motherfucking Johnny Five.
Even back then I didn't think it looked good, less so now.

Why couldn't they just bring back the badass Mechs from XCOM:EW? Shit...
One.
Fucking.
Job.

Anyway, is there any future content planned for XCOM2 anymore? Or is that it?
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>>147330739

Because humanity must stay pure, otherwise we are no better than advent.
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>>147330739
Probably a larger expansion later down the road but that's about it from Firaxis that we know of.

There are some LWS mods coming out soon(tm) which are basically like mini-DLCs, developed in partnership with Firaxis and 2k.
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>>147330842
>humanity must stay pure
Too fucking late
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>>147330887
God... Hurry up already!
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I want to give him ranger so much. Like, I know HEAT is too good to skip ever, but having an infantry with rockets is always tempting..
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>>147330739
don't talk to me or my wife's son's terminator ever again
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>>147330887
Ah fuck it... I'm gonna give it another go.
Stopped playing back then because adding new DLC fucked up installed Mods.
But it looks like now that after this last DLC there's gonna be some period of peace and quiet.
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>>147331114
Robots. No personality.
Do they get their mugshot on the memorial if they die?
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>>147319807
What mod is that with the sidearm holster?
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>>147331613

Grimmy's loot mod. Probably.
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>>147268889
see
>>147269030
then see
>>147268989

SJWs are not logical people.
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>>147319807
Well, think of it this way
Soldier with 12 mobility can move 24 tiles, or 12 and shoot.
With -6 holster you can still move 12 and shoot, or 18 tiles dash.
Now, the highest mobility I've ever had on a soldier myself was 20, with an SMG, flexweave on armor, and some perks, while highest max base mobility I've had on any soldier was 15.


The first benefit of this holster appears on 13 mobility soldiers, making them able to move 14 tiles total and being able to shoot, instead of 13 without the holster, but limits their dash range to 21 instead of 26.
Overall on 13, 14 and 15 mobility soldiers you gain 1/2/3 tiles you can move and still be able to shoot, while losing 5/4/3 dashing range.

And that's just on regular quality holster, if we take the advanced one under the scope, which has -5 mobility, the first benefit of +1 move and shoot range, while having a -5 dash range.
On 15 mobility soldiers an Advanced sidearm holster has NO PENALTY whatsoever, actually makes them more effective, as their dash range penalty will be 0

Now let's see the superior one in question, which has -4 mobility, you see a benefit of 2 range on 10 mobility soldiers, while also haivng a 2 range penalty to dash range. On JUST 12 mobility you have NO DISATVANTAGE AT ALL for equipping the holster on his/her sidearm, and from mobility 13, through 14 and 15 you actually gain dash range, 1/2/3 respectively, while also gaining 3/4/5 move&fire range

I hope I made it clear enough.
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>>147332483
Forgot about the advanced holster mobility stat that has an improvement, it was 11 mobility
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anyone know the "IDs" of the boss armor yet?
gonna have me a whole pyjama-party-bus
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>play xcom 2 for months on a pirated copy
>it's on sale so I decide to buy it now
>the legit copy crashes on startup and all the so called "fixes" on the internet don't do shit for me
I think this is the first time I see a pirated game work better than the bought one.
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>>147332483
>>147332576

Shiiiiet, i sold it the moment i got the black market. Well, now i know for the future.

It's time for one more adventure today, and this time we have some mag weapons and 2 fancy troops. Unfortunately we're taking a couple of rookies on this mission since everyone else has his shit all fucked up, we also ran out of supplies. Again.

And i just remembered i didn't make my engineers start excavating.
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>>147333696

Oh baby, that's our first snek
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>>147333696
Also, try using the LW toolbox to extend your squad instead of whatever your mod is now, having 2 rows of soldiers that are all shown just looks better, and has no problems with squads bigger than 8
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>>147333981

>our bruiser bad boy gets flanked by a lancer
>we forgot our heal grenade on the avenger

PANIC

>>147334157

I thought the toolbox was super broken and conflicted with everything, is that not the case anymore?
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>>147332890
how's that even possible
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>>147334530
I'm having aabout 50 mods, including classes, lootmod and shit, and I have no problems with toolbox
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>>147328369
It's more a psionic link than anything. The TRUE ethereals aren't seen if they don't want others to see them.
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>>147334530

>that one ayy that wont stop overwatching

>>147334837

Alright, i'll give it a try next time.
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>>147335156
Still, they're there. I recall in the last mission being randomly contacted by another ethereal, who encouraged me, along with having a different picture and a voice.

And for whatever reason, it's not expanded upon. No one stops to say who the fuck was that or anything of the sort. Considering Bradford has been responding to previous Ethereal comments, I'd imagine he'd pick that one up too and say something, but he didn't. Possibly that was just a direct transmission to you?
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>>147335770

And then he finally came out and he got rekt.
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>>147334769
Apparently anything is possible when it comes to the mess that is xcom 2.
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>Looking at immersive names mod because Firaxis can't into names
>Forced ethnic minorities
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>>147336015
>that's xcom bb
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>>147335939

Holy shitfuck why
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>>147335156
Yeah but then why would they need to rescue the commander, just let punished bradford ask to be the next host.
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>>147335823
Probably. I hope the expack explains more. Pretty much hinted at since there's a lot of assets that got removed recently from the sdk and the filenames referred to not the DLCs but to another set of material.

Also would like for them expand more on the not-Tiberium from the novel. Novel may have been MEDIOCRE but it's still canon. Advent flamethrower troops sound like hellish fun to fight against, not to mention the infected animals acting like pseudozombies/Cordyceps-infected bugs.
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>>147336364
In their defense, what happened the last time a raging drunk who was ready to give it all up was controlled?
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>>147336364
An ethereal bond strengthens the existing talents of the individual to which it is bound. Bradford just isn't a good fit, especially given how he handles the tutorial from EU/EW. He'd become an ultra competent sidekick-ranger though.
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>>147336296

Looks like it's that time of the campaign again
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>>147336364
>>147335823
There's a 5th traitor ethereal that didn't deploy/get an Avatar body in the Ending Scene, he has been pumping the Commander with some hot psi-energy but he isn't directly MCing him cause they still need his tactical genius for whatever final battle they have planned
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>>147336487
This.

>SHIT
>JESUS

https://a.pomf.cat/yeauqb.webm
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>>147336613

Stack that fucking defense, throw smoke, send gremlins, stand on heavy cover, draw fire. Get that fucking sweet sweet defense.
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>>147336906

I bet that train didn't even have anything good. I got lucky, apparently even with A better AI Advent sitll behaves like idiots sometimes.

>4 troopers move foward towards my troops
>they all overwatch
>1 of them moves next to my scout with a shotgun to flank her
>overwatches
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>>147337490

They still fucked me up super hard though, all my A team is now incapacitated.
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Oh shit son

http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=716259304
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>>147337636

Well i suppose that isn't bad. We also got our first ranger.
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Added all three ghillie colours for the helmet and torso, fixed the Spectre textures.

Haven't started the arms yet so I won't update until they're done.
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>>147337663
>combat protocol
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>>147338372
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>>147338509
>>147338372
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bda5p--Gz30
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Is there a mod somewhere that changes the scale of units, like in LW?
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>>147339092
I wish the DLC added a bit more than just a single mission.
I would have liked a new mission type 'factory raid' where you raid and locate SPARK prototypes rather than just building more of them in the foundry.

It would let us fight the new enemy type a bit more, kinda the same thing with the nano vipers.

I'd probably mod it to be that way but I have zero experience in modding. The derelict MECs look pretty cool, can't really replicate them with SPARKs.
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>>147338372
>>147338509
>>147338631
nice
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Are there any class mods geared toward doing shit like solo ADVENT Facility missions?
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>>147341241
>I would have liked a new mission type 'factory raid' where you raid and locate SPARK prototypes rather than just building more of them in the foundry.

Thats awesome, makes them much more valuable, potentially justifying making them pretty damn strong, and fits into the setting better than building them on board the Avenger.

If your infantry are scavenging gear how do you have the capacity to build SPARKs?
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Fuck you Jake I make the rules here
Everyone has bluescreen rounds, 4 people with EMP nades, other than Lily, I have also a 200+ hacking hacker
Ayy lmao
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>>147345173
I really want to mod it in but beyond actually learning how to do it, I'm not sure if the factory tile sets could be used to randomly generate similar maps.

The capabilities of XCOM in 2 has annoyed me from Day 1.
Guerrilla fighters my ass.
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>>147345365
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xb8G8qA9ibI
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>>147331385
yes
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Can someone here mod this in X2?
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>>147345365
>3 soldiers spawn inside of a wall
>it's my medic and 2 snipers
JAKE
NO
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>>147347392
>3 soldiers dead because they were stuck in wall when gas flooded in
>this was supposed to be my "no deaths" campaign run
Nah, just nah, this is a restart
Nice fucking meme Jake
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Ok so how the fuck do I get proper armor with this fucking Anarchy's Faggots DLC bullshit?
Every Torso armor is sleeveless and all the option I have for dressing up arms is for HIV positive punks not soldiers.
What the fuck happened to proper outfits?
Fucking bastard Firaxis commies!
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Anyone know why if I reload my save during Operation Last Gift causes shit to completely fuck up and cause robot bodies fly everywhere and cause my turns to never end?

I want to finish this damn mission but my run is kinda fucked because of this and I would rather not restart again.
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>>147348510
>AC
>Proper armor
Pick one
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>>147348510
Nevermind I got it.
Still that Anarchy's Children DLC is a load of bullshit.
If I wanted to be a faggot, I'd go suck a cock, not play XCOM.
Fucking commies literally everyfuckinwhere.

Oh and by the way, is there anyway to change the attitude before reaching that specific rank. It's kind of annoying to have my soldiers posing like they're ooga booga hood gangstas. I want them to stand on attention when I check them out.
Some mod maybe, tweak some file?
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>>147348213
Thanks to a friendly advice from a fellow I was reminded a console exists, and a teleport command within it.
I'll fight Jake's bullshit with my own.
The ride is still on.
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>>147349001
>Ruby Rose

You like lesbians bro?
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>>147349169
Among other things, yes
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>>147349001
Why the fuck must Lily Shen survive?
Fuckin' finally she gets to a fight, so we got a chance to be rid of her, and they won't let us?
What kind of bullshit is this?
>No! You're gonna suffer her whinning and sobbing about her father all the way through the campaign.
Yeah, fuck you too, Firaxis!
Jesus fucking Christ talking about no fun allowed.
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>>147348649
pls respond I dont wanna have to play half the damn game over again
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LET ME TELL YOU ABOUT ____
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>>147348941
>Some mod maybe

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=620530611
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LET ME TELL YOU ABOUT GIMMICKS
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>>147349891
Awesome, thanks
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>>147349526
>remaking whole storyline so anon can get rid of her

you out of your mind
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>>147349846
>>>/vg/twg
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>>147349950
>>147349846
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>>147350024
It would worth it.
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>>147350025
>>147350067
Sorry I fucked up
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Name my SHIV
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>>147349001
It looks like yet again I was forced to fix the magnificence of 9 soldier spawns with teleport command.
Is this really so hard to code a 4x4 spawn area instead of 3x3?
It certainly wasn't a problem for LW lads.
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>>147350768
Rover.
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>>147345483
Well for more ideas, active versions of the facilities staffed with advent and mecs, maybe even advent own spark variety of the mec
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>>147350869
>>147349001
>>147348213
>>147347392
>>147345365
>Play cheating EZ mode
>complain when the game doesn't support it
>actually needing to take more than 6 soldiers to the Lost Towers.


holy shit, please stop whining you casual.
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>>147347162
Maybe
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>>147351265
Fuck off I'm allowed to have a playthrough for shits and giggles after pulling a vanilla L/I
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Knock knock motherfuckers. These poor motherfuckers are still using basic ballistics
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Here's my bot, what do you guise think?
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>>147351562
Then stop complaining
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>>147351865
"No"
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>>147351565
I've never actually done one of these missions before but this bright blue wall is looking worrying.
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>>147352153
There were 4 agents in here with bog standard rifles and one guy with a gauss pistol.

Man this is really disappointing. I was hoping for a full on base assault when I saw the very large blip on the geoscape.
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>$20 to repair the SHIV and save losing a soldier
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>Archon King spawns in my Avenger ground Defense mission
>First attack I make at him is a repeater Execution
>Instantly kill him

I didn't even think that could be a thing.
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>>147354243
Well it works on Avatars.
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So if xcom can make sparks, what was stopping them from making their own MECs off of ADVENT designs from all the wrecks they looted? Hell what's stopping them from making SHIVs ect?
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>>147354521
Firaxis couldn't sell you them for 10 bucks later on
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>>147354521
>what was stopping them from making their own MECs off of ADVENT designs from all the wrecks they looted?
jake
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>>147350768
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>>147349001
How'd you get so many soldiers in?
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>>147355271
LW Toolbox
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Have smoke grenades even been fixed yet?
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>>147355528
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=650751923

?

>Implying Firaxis actually fixes their game
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>>147355665
>>147355528
At one point smoke grenades didn't even give defense. That was fixed a long time ago.
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>>147355665
>Implying Firaxis actually fixes their game
When hyping it pre-launch every issue the fans raised was answered with "mods can change it if you don't like", so you're not wrong..
>>
I get annoyed at how attatched firaxis is to making xcom come off as some plucky underdog faction when that clearly isn't the case
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>>147356264
According to plot and world-building that is the case. A proficient player demonstrates that from a game-play perspective that's not the case.
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Bureau ports to X2 when

I wish I had modding skills in the 3D department
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>>147255792
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>>147345365
If you are going to wait that long before unlocking SPARKs, why bother at all?

Also this mission isn't hard if you do it smart, don't have Lilly rush ahead to trigger the next wave of Mecs without putting your guys in position first, and don't waste time once the elevators are ready. Save your grenades for the boss and try to kill it quickly before too many Mecs spawn. Hacking the Mecs isn't that useful because their weapons are less effective than yours and you can kill them in one shot anyways.
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>>147357534
>Hacking the Mecs isn't that useful

>hack all MECs in area with sectopod hack
>group them under the sectopod
>capacitor discharge at the sectopods feet
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>>147357643
Okay that's actually a fun idea, particularly if you are playing on higher difficulties where the Sectopod has crazy hp, but hacking them individually is a waste of time.

Also you forgot to mention the step where you prime them for self destruct.
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Do these faggots only appear in the last mission?
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>>147359173
They appear once before the last mission. Much like the ethereals in X1 actually.
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>tfw can't equip utility items and grenades to spark
Would be nice if it could at least use things like battlescanners.

>>147359173
One appears when you jack a codex.
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Anyone know if collateral damage can be used to detonate your own landmines?

I just got a MEC-7 and with 12 proxy mines and my engineer is having trouble keeping up detonating all my mines on missions with 50+ aliens.

Looking for something with more lasting power than just 9 grenades.
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Are ADVENT reinforcements just not working for anyone else? Every drop ship lately has been empty.
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>>147357304
Yeah, the modles in that game would be pretty nice as options for modders
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>>147359292
>Much like the ethereals in X1 actually.

Actually, once you take down the Overseer, any UFO you take down afterward will have an Ethereal as a captain (replacing Sectoid Commanders, who replace Outsiders after the Alien Base), so you can basically fight them for as long as you want in regular missions before you do Temple Ship.
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This is a modded map pack for openxcom, right? Because I see it bearing a bit of resemblance to the slums elevated highway tileset from XCOM 2

1/2
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>>147361107
I am aware, it just never happens unless you're just mucking about. Ethereals weren't really brought back into the main game until Long War, something that future mods should also do.

>>147361284
Both FMP and PirateZ have a significantly larger choice of map types then the original game.
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>>147361284
Doesn't look vanilla.

>killing potential slaves
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>>147361284
Minus the ladders up to the highway that civilians love to block in XCOM 2, of course.

I think in FMP/Piratez you may just be screwed if there are enemies up there and you don't have the ability to fly yet.
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>>147361804
There are stairwells that connect the highway down to ground level.
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>>147361102
>turtleneck sweater
>schizotech backpacks
>overalls
>more EXALT options
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>>147361804
>I think in FMP/Piratez you may just be screwed if there are enemies up there and you don't have the ability to fly yet
>What are grenade launcher
>What are rockets
>What are grenades
>What are High Explosives
>What is aimed shot
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>>147362202
Even options for alien designs and weapons
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>>147362678
Those laser rifles are really cool
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>>147362915
The plasma weapons are rather nice too, some would definitely sell "human made plasma" a bit better, what I want to see brought back though are the EW Mectoids, upgraded for the evolved sectoids
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are BITs upgraded alongside with SPARK's chassis or gremlins?
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>tfw Playable Advent mod is still broken
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>>147363638
The chassis
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>spark with flamethrower on the nest mission

snek removal unit is here
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Why does this game still run like shit

How is this acceptable
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>>147366083
It runs on my rig fag.

Cry more.
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How to Long Dong terror missions?
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>>147366224
Save one civie and call it a good day.
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>>147366224
AP grenades and assplosions
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>>147366224
Accept demise before you even land
Save one civilian and leave the rest
Kill aliens
Complete mission
Cry as the country and it's neighbors go to total shit
Experience it all over again upon scanning for 5 more seconds
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Y'all nerds need Jesus.
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>>147366224
What >>147366410 said.
As long as you save one civvy, it's okay.
If you fail to save anyone, you instantly lose the country. If you save one civ, you won't, and you get less of a panic increase for every civvy you save. If you save all, there's no panic increase (but this is impossible without cheats)

As >>147366462 said, AP grenades are great. Especially when facing 'lids. Get an engineer or two.
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>>147366743
Yey
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>>147366743
based
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>>147366217
>He considers 30 FPS on medium settings 'runs'
Console release came sooner than earlier I guess.
>>
Medium Raider UFO in first month in Long Dong,what should i expect?
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>>147367691
>I make assumptions about things
Powerful stuff
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is there a mod that removes concealment aura?
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>>147368036
The main danger is the two outsiders I believe.
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>>147368265
>Terror ship lands in LW (or was it a supply, I forget, anyways it was big)
>stupid enough to try raiding it.
>Fight my way through Christalids, Mutons, thin men, and armies of floaters.
>Okay.jpg
>Suddenly a dozen outsiders, each with like three rows of regenerating HP.
Fuck this game.
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>>147368739
did you die?
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>>147368739
Six outsiders is mainly the first month barge which readme explicitly says not to raid.

I think supply barges only had like 3 or 4 outsiders? I don't know, but yeah, large ships aren't to be taken half-heartedly.
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>>147369050
No wait I'm misremembering because I always open the command pod with a big fat rocket, I think all larges have six outsiders.
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>>147369279
I'm pretty sure some only have four.
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>>147368812
Yes, I was on bronze man so I considered trying again, but it was such a long mission I just sort of gave up for a while and played Xcom2 instead.

>>147369050
At any rate I'm going to be more careful next time.

>>147369279
Can rockets even kill LW outsiders in one hit? IIRC in EU I used rockets against them because they had low health but deadly accuracy with their light plasma, however in LW they were more tanky and less immediately deadly.
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>>147366743
Now they actually need regular heads instead of those weird robotic ones, and human voicepacks, and I can pretend.
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>tfw SHIVs are your best soldiers
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>>147369667
LW rockets are more deadly than vanilla, you can hit 10 with the standard launcher and no perks. Usually not all outsiders in the pod will be leaders either.

There's very little reason to hold back on explosives against outsiders because they don't have a corpse. Pointless fighting the 80 aim rapid reaction opportunist 5 regen 15 move monster when all it drops is a weapon fragment.
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>>147370297
>>
so how the fuck do we stop our custom appearances from automatically randomizing every time we unlock new armor tiers?
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>>147371128
The uniform manager might be a good solution.
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>>147371325
I use it and it still happens, really ruins my immersion
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>>147371128
>>147372143
It bothers me too, but I know why it happens if you care. Each tier has a different number of arm/leg/torso options and when you change armor tiers, the game gives you whatever is in the item slot you were using on the previous tier. There's kinda no fix. It's annoying, but you only have to deal with it twice per campaign thanks to the manager and global uniforms, so it's manageable. Aggravating though.
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>>147372509
I was playing wavecom with exalt soldiers and every time I swapped armors it would fuck everything, couldnt use the manager in wavecom of course. ruined the whole play through.
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>>147366743
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>>147373763
How did you fill in that chunk that would have been exposed human torso?
>>
Intimidate is fucking useless, it never procs.
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>>147375373
Edited the ADVENT MEC chest.

http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=716906004
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>>147376095

Looks good. Are you gonna eventually port over the original MECs in their entirety so we can have cyborgs instead of robots?
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>>147373763
Just saw you upload this, subscribing now Gonna check it out when I hit SPARKs.
>>
Are there any decent Long War guides? Can't find any on the pastebin and I always get overwhelmed by October/November.
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>>147376095
Awesome work!
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>>147376095

You are a wizard, thank you.

Do you know how possible it'd be to make it so some helmets for humans work on a SPARK? Maybe the titanfall helmets you ported over.
>>
Are we ever going to get the other tier1 armor models in Xcom2? The EU EW port guys seem to be ignoring them entirely.
>>
lets hope the expansion isnt shit
>>
>roll Holo-Targeting on my Sniper with the AWC
>think it's a meh roll
>few missions later, ready to ambush a pod
>pop Kill Zone to be the follow-up to the ambush shot
>shoots at them all but kills only one
>start looking at my options with other soldiers
>notice they all have higher % shots than usual
>inspect and realize that every surviving member of that pod has Holo Targeting applied

Holy shit that's an amazing synergy. What are some other uncommon but amazing AWC synergies?
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>EXALT is worse at zerg rushing than sectoids
>>
>tfw the first gun for the mecs sound fucking amazing
>the second and third guns sound like shitty toys
god fucking damnit
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>>147378538
>losing the Encoder

In all seriousness, it's amazing for how even though they have amazing numbers, they're suicidal as shit. Not to mention harmless, thanks to the relays being grabbed by a 15+ mob operative. Only danger is grenades. It's almost like a shooting gallery, run in with shotguns, blow cover, kill everything, repeat every turn.
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>>147378890
>caring about the encoder when you spawn next to the transmitter
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>>147379049
>not caring about extra space bucks
>not wanting to reverse zerg rush
>not wishing to assert your dominance

MEDIOCRE
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>>147379049
>caring about the extra money
You're right anon, money is just an obsolete artifact of the capitalist institution.
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>>147379049
>not wanting the extra shekels to fund the next operation against them
it worked for me tho
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>>147379234
>>147379287
>>147379378
>capitalist pigs
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>>147379287
>>147379378
Not OP but I never knew it affects the reward. Good thing I've been going for encoder out of perfectionism.
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>shen dies
>drops loot

???
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>>147379049
Where is your autowin CCS assault?
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>>147379715
>not picking up Shen's unwashed panties
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>>147379613
>space commie
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>>147380284
Better Red than Dead!
Posted from IPhone with Taptalk
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>>147380284
Raimus did nothing wrong.
>>
this came up on the xcom reddit, i think its worth a look especially that last point
http://imgur.com/a/RpyEd
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>>147381573
>http://imgur.com/a/RpyEd
That's very useful, I think I'll throw it into the /xcg/ pastebin.
>>
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>>147366743
>>147370236
>>147376286
You could always squeeze in Shen's Model if you want the most likely candidate to go full cyborg.
>>
this is a long shot but
the same way AC torsos restrict normal arms from being used
does anyone knows how can you restrict custom pieces from one another with ini edits?
or is it even possible with ini edits?
i want to make sure that a soldier using an exalt torso or bradford sweater is forced to use the proper arms
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>>147378452
Implacable Ranger with Serial
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>Suppress snake
>Instead of a move and shoot now I get two attacks - a tongue and poison.
>>
LIVE
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>>147389394

ALIVE
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So is Shen's Last Gift fun?
>>
Ssshhhhh...

xcg/ is asleep.
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>>147393084
Yes.
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>Lilly, you are my last gift to mankind.

Seriously Jake?
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>>147394356

I know, objectifying women like that should be a crime!
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>>147394356
What do you expect a father's per-emptive recording to their daughter to say?
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Does doing any of the Alien Hunters or Shens Last Gift reduce the Doom Ticker in anyway?

I ran down the clock but never had the opportunity to get a Codex to spawn (having just finished the BlackSite) and I think that unless they do then this is it.
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>>147395472
You can reduce the ticker by raiding facilities,. but honestly if you haven't gotten the codex yet, you brought this on yourself. Stop trying to grind.
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It think the 'bad' ending could've been made better if instead of losing once the doom ticker completes, Avatars become a common enemy and UFOs spawn much more frequently, with higher chances of shooting down the Avenger and Retaliations happen bi-weekly
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>>147395706
>doom clock completes
>advent spams you with ufos relentlessly
>at base defense every enemy is an avatar
>even if you survive the base defense more ufos will come
>injuries and death begin to pile up
that would be a cool way to go
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jgfTV-KzBPY
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>>147395706
Think that'd be moddable?

Also, I'd imagine that citizens would completely stop showing up on inner-city missions, since, y'know, they're all processed. Maybe no more VIP rescue, either
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>>147396834
Logically you wouldn't get supply drops, black market, or any other form of support either. But at least you won't have to worry about retaliation missions anymore.
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>>147396834
I think it'd be a nice touch that over the course of an in-game year, civilians slowly stop showing up.

Going from the default 14 to 13 in the first month, to 11 the second to 10 and so on
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>>147394563
>Bitch yo' ass better be fucking some of them recruits to get me some fuckin' grandkids
>Tellin' yo' ass to get me some grandkids for years yo' ass evah lissen to me?
>Seed the world bitch I need my legacy to live on
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>>147397143
I would actually really like that.
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how much damage does the spark strike do
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>>147398764
not enough

>>147396134
How can they be so bad?
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>>147398981

how about giving me a number, pal
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>>147398981
Mecs work best in tandem with flesh troops, so the all mec team is kinda shit
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alright faggots just bought xcom 2 on sale
what the fuck am i in for
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>>147399413

misses

misses everywhere
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>>147399413
>bugs
>low framerate
>cosmetics
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>>147399413
If you're good at it, you'll snowball to victory
If you're bad you'll let XCOM die a slow, painful, sad defeat
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>>147400379
Or a fast one.
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The right side of the SPARK tree needs a buff, most of it is mediocre since you can't mod your SPARK or give it other equipment other than the heavy weapon. For tanking, its godlike with 6 armor, just sucking up the attacks for massive damage but everything else is done better by another class. Also, I swear the trailer did gave it some throwing animation for grenades, where did that go? How would you make SPARKS more unique?
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>>147401612
>I swear the trailer gave it some throwing animation for grenades
>How would you make SPARKs more unique?
The immediate thought I had was that they'd get a poop chute for their grenades. So they'd just bend over, and lob one at the enemy.

I don't know why my mind went here first.
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>>147399413
A decently fun game that will, pure Vanilla, last you about 20 hours if you don't fail a campaign. It's no magnificence simulator 2016, but it holds its bullshit well enough in the early game as per xcom tradition.

Modded, it will last you quite longer. Cosmetics, gameplay mods, map mods, class mods, etc.
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>>147401612
Maybe give the bit some more unique abilities then the basics of the power suit weapon, like the ability to cast it's own version of blazing pinions, the wrath cannon or even sit in place like a support turret
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>You can actually mute the in-game music now
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So at least a full suite of mag weapons are required for the SLG mission, yes?
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>>147404413

Nah, I did it with a really low level squad. tier 1 Bolt Caster and Shen carried me through it.
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>>147404413
I recommend it. It leans pretty hard on armor, which rapes ballistics super hard. At least 4+ mag rifles in the squad seems almost vital.
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I just found out i can suck my own dick and its a lot harder that you will think
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>>147404932
Pics or it didn't happen.
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>>147404932
Are you a thin man?

How did you get so flexible?
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>>147399413
One of the best games this year, though that's not saying much.
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I'M DOING IT
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>>147406162
I didn't take any

>>147406416
Im like 6'2 and 120 lbs thin
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>>147406573
What if I told you those aren't ethereals.
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>>147406601
goddamn thinmints
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>>147406573
Ugh, you can't see it in that screenshot, but that's a baseball bat. My only regret is that I didn't have attack dogs for this mission.

>>147406601
So, yeah, you basically are.

>>147406757
I'd be happy, because those poor guys had conventional weapons. I almost felt bad beating them with baseball bats and maces and brass knuckles.
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>>147406817
And I had to beat them down every turn. Fuckers kept getting back up.

>>147406757
I'd be dismayed if you told me that wasn't a real sectopod, though. I dropped a satchel charge on it and barely scratched it.
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I'm sorry, but WHAT THE FUCK?
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>>147407574
welcome to newfoundland
enjoy your stay
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>>147407979
I don't like canada and all its alien immigrants
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>>147408126
Build a wall
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>>147407574
>actually doing Newfoundland in Long Dong
the complete madman
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>>147408257
Can I just skip it? Are there any negative repurcussions?

>>147408237
BUT THEY CAN JUST TEAR IT DOWN OR JUMP OVER IT
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What do you guys regard to be more difficult, XC2, XC, or XCLW?
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>>147408881
without mods, long dong is way harder than xcom 2.

with mods, however, xcom 2 can be way harder than long dong.

either way, both of them are vastly harder than enemy within could ever be
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Havent played since a long time
Last time I did it was to try Alien Hunter and I found it fucking awful

Is there any consensus on that ? Should I try again ? Should I give up and go full Mech ?
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>>147408320
Add a roof.
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>>147409082
alien hunters isn't that bad if you actually git gud
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>>147409230
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>>147409363
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The Cult of Sirius is pretty pissed at me, it seems.
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>>147410568
They belive the aliens are the messiah, so they hate anyone who defends mankind from them
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the start and basicly tier1 is the hardest part of legend?
maybe because its relatively short compared to other tiers and i forget what to do but do i suck major ass despite flawless gatecrasher
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>>147408257
>implying Newfoundland is hard, even in LW
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>>147409363
They ain't shit
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>fighting archon ruler for the first time

This is the worst game design I've seen in my entire life. It's just so bad that I can't even be mad about it.
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any mod packs that add a robotic arm or something similar?
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>Rookies can't hack/activate the fucking item to keep it from self destructing.

If you want to be an apologist then you can excuse it as hur the rookies are too stupid, but it doesn't stop beefmclargehuge the grenadier from being able to hack on his little tablet.

If Jake adds in underwater timed escort missions in TFTD 2 I will drive down to the Firaxis Maryland office, hold up a boombox on my shoulders and blast nothing but angry eggsalt static noises.
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>>147412528
The Titanfall armor pack has robot arms AND legs. The Halo Reach spartans pack also has a robot arm.
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>>147412642
Wait rookies can't hack? That is fucking stupid.
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>>147412687
awesome, thanks a lot - I wasn't that interested in those packs so I never thought to check them out, cheers.
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>>147412463
Sacrifice sparks seem to fuck with their AI making them just move back and forth until they use devastate and do almost no damage.
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>>147412642
>I will drive down to the Firaxis Maryland office, hold up a boombox on my shoulders and blast nothing but angry eggsalt static noises.
This is a great mental image.
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>>147411750
You're a cool guy beating them on the first mission on rookie difficulty.
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I shall leave you with this good example of composition, /xgc/. Good night.
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>>147416089
>rookie difficulty

is it really that hard to admit you're just bad and need to git gud, that you'd rather accuse everyone else of being retarded or playing on low difficulties?
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>MKII MEC is the MKI with little bits of armour added
>completely different UVs and an entirely seperate texture

Why?
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>>147416805
Calm down there sir, I'm already in awe of your ability to beat the Rookie difficulty. I'm feeling a bit overwhelmed here by it, actually. No need to be so insulting about it.
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>>147417085
And I'm overwhelmed by your desire to deflect criticism with projection like it's your goddamn fetish.
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>>147417829
R A R E S N . . .
Wait, that's gross.
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It's a miracle, the SDK works again. A guy called TrackTwo on the nexus forums figured it out, and all it took to fix it was to change something from false to true on some random config file. Too bad about all the people that reinstalled the entire 80+GB sdk multiple times to try and fix it. Not all of the problems are gone but at least everything is functional again, but let's count the issues that came with this fucking patch.

First, and i think this one is global, if you launch the modbuddy through steam you cannot debug your mod, this is easy to avoid you just have to launch the modbuddy outside of Steam.

Second, when you try to build a mod it fails to build, i thankfully didn't encounter this one, apparently there were 3 separate fixes for this one, don't know which one fixed it since it didn't happen to me, but one was to just reinstall the sdk or verify the tool cache, and another was that apparently a pop up flashes on your screen when it fails to update and you just have to click ok on it.

The third one is the one that had everyone fucked over, can't open the editor at all, when you try and open it it gets to the part where it says "Loading objects referenced by: FoliageBrushSphereMaterial" and then it just closes itself without any error. The fix was to go to XCOM 2 SDK\XComGame\Config and change [SourceControl] Disabled=False to True in XcomEditorUserSettings.ini and now you can open the Editor again.

The fourth problem i remember reading someone else having it but i couldn't find his post, so i spent several hours trying to fix it. Basically apparently if you are subscribed to your own mod, when you try to update or debug your mod or whatever, even if you tell the launcher to load the mod you didn't download through steam, it will load that one. All i did was unsubscribe to my mod, delete the other one and debug it again, that fixed it. I don't know if that was a one time thing or i'll have to keep unsubscribing to my mod.

tl;dr: Thanks Jake
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>>147418423

But shiet, fuck all that crap. Let's kill ayys.

>>147337782

Last time on Xcum we raided a train, and we almost got raped by 60 Advents, today on Xcom we only have the B team to depend on as our entire A team got their shit all fucked.

And i just remembered i forgot to take my heal and smoke grenade so shit's already fucked.
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>>147418423
Don't mod myself, but appreciate you posting this all here for anyone here who does.
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>>147418537

>3 FUCKING SNIPERS

YOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
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>>147418707

>figure it's best to wait for the snipers to walk away
>they finally leave
>this walks in
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>>147419086

>try to sneak around the building to take the high ground and just murderize everyone
>sectoid ayy lmaos right into the middle of my squad

Somehow they haven't spotted me, but i'm sure the instant i end my turn they will.
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>>147419358

Or they'll just slowly walk away
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>>147419431

>mfw there's another fucking pod walking around in front of the building

That's at least 4 pods standing there.
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>>147408257
>Newfoundland
>hard
It's absolutely easy. It's pretty much a zero-risk mission for those who know what's coming.
Newfoundland's "difficulty" comes from the scare the shitton of chryssalids gives you. People go in playing it like a normal mission, and thus get fucked over. Once you know, it's really just a matter of adapting to that single type of enemy and it becomes an exp. farm

Just throw tactics out of the window like cover, move slowly to prevent getting overwhelmed, bring lots of nades (and in the case of LongDong, use that armor that trades health for mobility, as lids will instakill you anyway).
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>>147419539

Fucking niggers.

But i guess it's fine, i-it's not like i wanted that grenadier or anything.
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>>147419768

JAKE
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>>147419730
>Just throw tactics out of the window like cover, move slowly to prevent getting overwhelmed, bring lots of nades (and in the case of LongDong, use that armor that trades health for mobility, as lids will instakill you anyway).

But don't forget that if you're playing the magnificent edition there's also going to be a thin mint pod in there to fuck your shit up.
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>>147419862
>silly xscum
>activating jumpjet engines to stabilize
>beep boop
>aquiring next target
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I can't find the patch notes where they nerfed grenadiers. Link?
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Next mission >>147421663

>>147421663
>>147421663
>>147421663
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>>147420817
With potentially seeker, yes.

When you encounter thin mints, just move back a bit so that you won't encounter extra 'lids, then blow up their cover.

With seekers, huddle up in overwatch (I'm also pretty sure the mints don't have LR yet at that point)
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>>147407574
I'd restart that without shame, you can't win it without knowing beforehand and anyone playing LW knows and expects that mission. Another one to expect is that the 3rd terror mission will be 100% lids and zombies.

long schlong newfoundland strategy:
>a minimum of two engineers with grenades and AP grenades
>everyone else carries one AP grenade; if bringing a rookie, they can bring two AP grenades; don't be hesitant to use them on the thin mints too since you get no corpses anyway
>assaults, infantry, scouts are most useful, but you can also bring some rookies to train
>2-3 shotguns but not more, you need an answer to the thin mints and you have enough AP nades to kill all the lids anyway
>don't go through the middle because you can have 12 lids walk in on you, take the back route
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>>147422456
>100% lids and zombies.
Actually kind of easy.
Just get a bunch of Assaults with Close Combat Specialist
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