/blog/ - BL + Otome General #133

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JP wikis:
http://wikiwiki.jp/toulove/
http://tohken.gamerch.com/

EN wiki:
http://touken-ranbu.wikia.com

Official twitter accounts:
https://twitter.com/TOUKEN_STAFF
https://twitter.com/tkrb_ntr

Game rips:
http://pastebin.com/zTh3WAfk

Artbook scans: https://mega.nz/#!CN4HCYxS!ysBUl56dooRevfriIm2eU5-X2YkYin6vmY3DQpnWkVw

Touken Ranbu GFC Anthology full volume:
https://mega.nz/#!6FcjRRwZ!-Xkr2CNSI0nSgbTEpk3mmpu4FHt6N-0rlSaXLmlrYtU

It seems that the we will get the Hadaka fandisc later, so I wonder how long until the main game goes up for preorder.

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Latest MangaGamer /blog/ licenses:

Hadaka Shitsuji
Bocchimusume x Produce Keikaku --> Fashioning Little Miss Lonesome (R-18 otome)

>>147227451
Wasn't Bocchimusume quite short?

>>147227370
Wait, so it's not truly being released as a "double edition"?

>>147227451
I still wish they'd chosen a BL title that doesn't already have a known translation patch, but I AM looking forward to Bocchi musume.

>>147227370
it's getting retranslated, so not that soon.

>>147227927
They said the fandisc was going to be released later, so apparently not. There will probably be a bundle when the fandisc gets released.

>>147227714
It only has two guys. How long can it be? I don't mind if it's short if it means we'll get another otome game sooner.

Hadaka is kinda boring.

>>147227451
Looking forward to Bocchi Musume. Wonder if they'll localize the other Kalmia8 game too if this one sells well.

>>147229370
Edgy

Playing the first hiiro no kakera for practice. This game seems to drag on forever. Only finished Suguru's route since he looks the most stable person, but fuck the amount of backstabbing and counterbackstabbing in his route was hilariously worrying. How gullible can these guys get? The MC has a typical otome heroine's strong morals, but she only exists to be protected, acts recklessly and forgives too easily. It's sad to keep reading her wanting to fight, but unable to do anything.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W8QYQJ8cBvg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yJN0RNbQb-Q
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dHh2dkRCN6U
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQiIECAU9t4

Moa's new VN is on the English DLSite now
http://www.dlsite.com/eng/work/=/product_id/RE180247.html

>>147228298
Same here. In all honesty, I'm a bit disappointed with the bl and otome title announcements, though it was probably because I had my hopes up on other titles.

So if Mangagamer announced Hadaka Shitsuji, does that mean JAST is going to announce DMMd?

>>147227451
Fucking lame. The shock wore off years ago and uncensored cgs isn't enough to land a purchase from me. Nice work pushing something you already translated.

>>147244630
Isn't the translation for the FD new?

>>147244630
You EOPs are a riot.

>>147228298
But what BL title without a translation patch would actually sell? Galtia?

Has anyone played Bocchi? I never really looked into it, but I can't help but be suckered into the tiny S/big M switch.

>>147246063
No idea if it'd sell, but Sweet Pool is a N+C title, so I'd at least expect decent sales.

>>147247059
I don't think Mangagamer would pick up a N+C title.

>>147246380
The game didn't have as much focus on the size aspect of the characters as I got the impression it would from promo material, so don't have high expectations in that regard.

But it was good despite being a bit short. All three characters and their dynamics and banter are great. The story is generic and peters out towards the end, but it was clearly aiming to be a romcom above all else and achieved it well. I was satisfied with it.

>>147246063
I dunno. I just imagine that there'd probably be more people like >>147244630 around who wouldn't buy something they already played. I know that stuff like DMMD is often requested too despite having popular fanpatches, but we don't know if people would really put money where their mouths are.

You guys are forgetting Good Haro is the one in charge of translating BL at MG, and she'll only translate what she likes, and she doesn't like much.

>>147247417
I also wouldn't expect much out of someone who's prone to ripping on things she's never read.

>>147244470
I'm surprised they haven't gotten to it yet.

>>147233117
I mean, once you get past the whole violence, animal fucking and all that crap,it's just a normal vn.

>>147247417
>Source: My ass

>>147248787
She's actually said she's the only one interested in translating BL where she works and would push for games she's not interested in only if there was someone else on the team who likes it.

>>147248861
She's said that they could do more if they got more translators with the same interests, not that she won't translate something she doesn't like. She seems to have just pushed harder for games she does like.

>>147248973
So the point of expecting anything outside her interests being pointless still stands.

>>147247417
Good Haro's tastes matches up with mine so I'm fine with that. If it were someone else they probably would've gotten garbage like DMMd translated.

>>147250308
NTY, Hadaka, and Shingakkou are the only BL titles I've ever seen her say nice things about so you're on a limited selection there.

>>147250308
I don't see how DMMd and Hadaka Shitsuji are any better or worse quality than eachother, other than DMMd being popular and having a cancerous fanbase.

>Let's license a game I already translated for free a billion years ago, my friends at /blog/ will surely buy it

Don't let GH down guys!!!

>>147250913
DMMd takes itself seriously.

>>147246063
Good question. Could the status of untranslated be used to their benefit and create hype?
MG is getting a larger female audience. Perhaps Hadaka will be another title that may help eops look forward to their next bl release even if it's less popular.
>>147252732
That 10 pack.

>>147250534
I'd really like to see Shingakkou, still holding out hope for that one day

>Jast's panel tonight even later than MG's was
Fuck that, guess I'm not finding out the announcements until tomorrow.

>>147254014
Does it have enough hardcore sex to satisfy the western audience's one-track mind and ADD?

The next MG BL title will probably be Room no 9.

>>147233117
Yes, you're right. Hadaka is kinda edgy.

>>147255204
Dmmd is popular but it only has about 1-2 sex scenes per route and I wouldn't say it's that much compared to the non-sexual content.

>>147257861
That's got other shit keeping the ADD preoccupied.

>>147257861
DMMd is a crazy, edgy, trainwreck in general so it evens out.

>>147257861
I genuinely thought Clear's route wasn't going to have a sex scene but then they inserted it in the most retarded way possible.

>>147252732
Wasn't as bad as I expected, but the pacing just felt wrong.

>>147262541
That part where she imagined them smashing those bars and flying had me laughing.

The MC is retarded and cockhungry, just as expected of an otome heroine

>>147264310
Cockhungry MCs are great as long as they're assertive about it.
Which unfortunately this one isn't.

>>147264310
At least she has an adorable voice. I kinda like her.

I wonder if we one day get a revolutionary idol MC that acts like an actual manager with experience would and not like some school girl.

>>147266551
Ichu's MC is very capable and has experience.

>>147266854
Completely forgot about her.
Too bad that AiChuu is relatively unpopular and has a few shit groups.

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>>147266551
Technically there's SideM P, since it's still a mystery if it's a boyish girl or a girly boy

For some reason I find it hard to think of most guys in otoge as having dated or slept with anyone before unless it's stated explicitly, even if they're 25+. Anyone else feel that way?

>>147270207
No, since I embrace my 2D games without thinking about realism.

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>>147270207
I always go down the list and imagine how many partners each one might've had beforehand.

>>147270207
If the guy is flirty I'll assume he's been with other girls before and I'm ok with it. I'd find it jarring with an innocent genki guy, though.

>>147270328
I'd never thought about it much before until the last thing I read had one guy out of the cast mention in passing he had lovers in the past. He was really moe so it felt weird.

>>147270463
I hope you drop the routes of any sluts.

>>147266551
I'll make your dreams come true. Someday. Though it won't be idol.

>>147271927
I don't want Western shit, and why would I need a competent manager in a show that's not about idols?

>>147272128
>why would I need a competent manager in a show that's not about idols
There are rock bands, anon.

>>147270207
>>147271497
I'm the same with assuming it for flirty guys. With any others I assume doutei unless it's implied otherwise.

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Same, MC, same.
Why is it allowed for cute boys to be stuck in mobage?

>>147270207
I never think about it. Though if the guy is 30+ and not a failure I have a hard time thinking he's a virgin without killing suspension of disbelief.

>>147272408
Eh, what's the point of music shit if you can't even have some seiyuu fodder?

Good Haro had to reassure SJWs about Bocchi Musume on twitter.

>>147275450
maybe I just like handsome long-haired men in black t-shirts and music

>>147276057
Okay, I can understand that first part.
We need more long hair.

>>147275925
What about?

>>147275925
18+ otoge do have a reputation after all.

>>147276240
How long are we talking?

>>147276352
That the MC is a strong independent woman that don't need no man and the sadist isn't triggering.

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>>147276432
The longer the better, if you ask me.

>>147276860
I miss long hair. I'm talking ass length.

>>147275925
Is Bocchi Musume being translated by Good Haro though? One of the [REDACTED] was updated to be Hadaka, but one still remains [REDACTED].

>>147278409
No idea, but she did that nonetheless.

>>147276602
>strong independent woman
>otoge
Why are EOPs deliberately limiting their already tiny selection?

>>147278527
Because most of them come from tumblr. And I hate this assumption that a meek character can't be good or can't develop, or that characters who fall under certain archetypes are automatically shit and can never be well-written because they trigger people.

>>147278409
No, see >>15479897

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>>147276240
>>147276860
Long and silky enough to run your fingers through

>>147278807
Oops, forgot to add >>>/jp/

>>147278807
>>147278928

Thanks.

>>147278758
I hate how 90% of the fandom talks about otoge MCs in general. The ones who think physically strong or rude MCs are the only good ones, the ones who defend all MCs from criticism including the blandest, dumbest ones, and the ones who have played a grand total of 5 otoge, think all are bad and also think their opinions are worth shit.

>>147278527
>People not liking wifebeaters and braindead heroines is a bad thing now

As usual, women are incapable of forming opinions of their own.

Where are the SJW tweets? I just see people being wary of the "sadist" guy or if the main is Fuka v2.

>>147280085
>implying automatically putting down certain character archetypes because they trigger you instead of judging writing on per-character basis has ever not been retarded

>>147280260
Yeah, it's pretty ridiculous for people have reservations of an archetype that is 9 out of 10 times written badly, or about spending time and money on a game from a genre that doesn't often produce worthwhile games, coming from a company whose last otome game published was a steaming pile of shit. After all, having initial impressions is bad if it's not /blog/ doing it.

Fucking idiot.

>>147280738
>9 out of 10 times written badly

This goes for any otome character, period. Seems odd to single certain types out unless you're triggered by them.

>>147280085
Just because a heroine isn't strong and independent doesn't mean she's dumb as fuck and can't have any development.

How come I never see male otaku have autistic meltdowns over MCs and specific character archetypes?

>>147281108
Because male otaku accept the MC as selfinsert, while women often seem to have a problem with that.

>>147281108
Try hanging around on /a/ or /jp/'s eroge threads long enough. You'll see some.

No one hates their own hobby more than /blog/ does though.

>>147281108
Because they're not sexist towards their own gender.

>>147281108
they're not tainted by that social justice shit that tells you that you have to passionately hate something with burning rage if it falls into a certain category because morality.

a lot of women get infected by that bullshit without realizing it because they're more likely to be surrounded others who do it.

>>147281473
*surrounded by others

>>147281473
I wholly agree with this.

Back when I was on tumblr I thought I used to care about social justice, but in reality it was just crowd mentality.

>>147281384
Occasionally I'll see someone say tsunderes are bitches but that's about it.

>>147281108
Probably because a male MC is something different from a female MC.
The male 'role' is protecting, the female is being protected.
You'll have a hard time finding some eroge with an MC having to be protected all the time, or running into trouble just to be saved by his love interests while being completely helpless.
Or having to face some jealous bitches that want to fuck them up after school because he got too near to their idol.

At the same time, it is relatively normal for females to be protected and weaker (especially in historic settings), and being protected is often something that girls like, so obviously you'll have more otome games with a weak MC.


tl;dr Male MCs are different from female ones, exceptions apply.

>>147281730
There's plenty of MC hate though.

>>147278758

I hate the "this character did something bad therefore they're a bad character" meme.

>>147280924
Not every type is in Bocchi Musume, obviously. People are going to single in on what worries them most.

>>147281095
The "strong an independent" part isn't an issue, the "dumb as fuck" part is.

And I still can't find anyone attacking Good Haro over anything, just a couple of people asking her questions. Did something happen or is this just /blog/ displaying their typical woman behavior of making issues out of nothing?

>>147282206
Nobody said people are attacking her.

>>147282289
>Good Haro had to reassure SJWs

I expected someone ranting about the patriarchy or whatever, not someone just saying that the premise sounded like Paradise Kiss.

>>147278807
>secret project

I can't imagine what it could be.

>>147282532
Speak of making an issue out of nothing.

>>147247992
Why haven't they?

>>147281730
Tsunderes are bitches so that's a given. There is also dislike for dandere, genki, dojikko, sluts, betas, and really anything if you stepped out of your fujoshit threads for a minute.

>>147281108
>>147281345
Sometimes I think that women do actually self-insert, but just find it difficult because the MCs are hard to relate to. Then they get frustrated when the MC decides to do something that they would never do themselves and start complaining about it.
I think the personality difference between the player and the MC is the only issue. Also the cultural difference between Japan and the West of "how females should act".

>>147282556
Maybe it's a nitro+chiral title with jast.

To be on the reasonable side, I can understand not liking certain shit in a game advertised as easy-going for self-insert purposes.
However, if someone picks up a VN knowing it's supposed to be literary or something and proceed to bitch about things like controversial behavior then they should probably kill themself.

>>147283246
Honestly, why are male MCs more easy to self-insert?

>>147283513
this desu.

>>147283513
Agreed.

It's like they won't be satisfied until something perfectly utopian is written.
I don't see how anything interesting could come out of that.

>>147281108
But they do. Quite often, especially in harem situations with MCs that are too clueless or too beta.

>>147281108
They do. I met a guy who had meltdowns when the MC didn't look exactly like him.

>>147283629
Guys easily accept that this archetypical bunch of cute girls love his bland ass and is happy to romance/fuck them. It's escapism anyway, why would you bring reality in it so much? Western girls though have to be strong and smart and can't just let go and enjoy the game for what it is. And of course as already said different cultures and the constant misguided obsession to apply their own values and judge by them.

>>147284502
That sounds funny.

>>147283629
Who wouldn't want to become an overpowered eroge MC surrounded by girls who love him?

I'm glad you all put more time into writing armchair psychology papers than playing games.

>>147284885
Instead of being passive-aggressive, why don't you offer something else to talk about if you have a problem?

>>147284885
I am playing a game. But everything just became so bleak I had to take a break so I figured I'd grace you with my opinion on the current debate.

>>147284616
>constant misguided obsession to apply their own values and judge by them.
It would be unfair to say that though.
Not everyone knows or understands another culture's values to truly judge by anything other than their own.

>>147285391
If you are going to judge it like that then you should learn a little about it. And if that's too much then at least don't expect it to be like yours and then get mad it isn't.

>>147285391
I see where you're coming from but we're talking about a very small niche genre. It's unlikely that a bunch of people "just happen to find it". Even EOPs must have at least an basic understanding of Japanese culture and mentality.

>>147285917
The issue is not that people are ignorant of other cultures. It's more that they don't even realize there is a cultural difference to begin with.
Basically they're kind of dumb and dumb enough to not even realize they are judging things they know little about.
In all honesty, if a title was localized for the West, then I don't think those people in the West should be attacked for judging it based on their own values and not thinking like a Japanese person.

>>147286803
>implying that by watching anime you can start thinking like a Japanese person.

>>147287178
No but you can start being familiar with certain words/events/archetypes etc.

>>147287178
I don't think that's what they meant. More like they'd be more aware that Japanese culture would be substantially different and keep that in mind.

>>147286837
Yeah that's true too and not just with otome of course. I've seen people complaining that this japanese game made by japanese people for japanese people doesn't appeal/pander to them. Localizations are a whole different beast though.

>>147287514
And I don't think you understood what I meant.
I'm only pointing out the fact that it's really hard to think like a person born and raised in a country you only know the "cultural basics" of.

>>147286803

>>147288242

>>147288242
But they should still be able to keep in mind it's different and not intended for them. If they can't I don't know why they bother consuming said media.

>>147288512
>understands that media is not intended for them
>bothers consuming said media

>>147289490
I'm not sure what you're getting at in this post. If it's directed at me, I try not project my own cultural shit on Japanese shit precisely because I'm aware of this, and have no trouble enjoying it.

>>147255110
You think they'll announce anything /blog/ related? Last time they teased something for otome fans, they announced a Yuri title instead.

Has anyone combined orders with big in japan or jpn-depot? Is it 500 yen per order you add to one combined box, or a single 500 yen regardless of how many orders you combine into one box?

>>147288512
I've just met too many dumb EOPs. Apologies if you personally took offense to any of what I said, but I still do think that it's hard for someone not to reflect their own worldview even after understanding the cultural differences.

>>147290162
I'm slightly hoping that Good Haro's secret project is with Jast.

>>147244630
Apparently the original translation was kinda bad, so it's getting retranslated to be better.

>>147290345
For bij it's +500 yen regardless of how many packages you want to combine. You select repackaging when you add the forwarding ticket to the cart.

>>147290345
For BigInJapan, it's a single 1000 yen for multiple packages (10 at most) that you'd like to combine to one.
Also, don't forget that you have to let them know in advance how many packages you're expecting, who the sender(s) is and the general nature of your order (e.g. games).

>>147291131
>>147291187
Thanks. I asked the buyf/a/g thread first but no response.

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I've been playing Bad Apple Wars since a while back. I finished 3/5 routes in the span of a week, but it's been about a month since I last completed a route. It's been feeling a bit repetitive, and I enjoyed Shikishima's route too much that I can't see another route topping that.

>>147291343
same as those applies to jpn-depot.

>>147292412
Do they have issues with adult items?

>>147293167
their site says so but I doubt they enforce it. most female-oriented adult stuff slips through those kinds of proxy/forwarder rules. so if it's not hardcore drenched in cum stuff right on the package/cover it should be fine.

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I thought Hime also knew how to do their makeup work or something. Or is Tsubasa not Hime?

noncon is a fun trope that I enjoy

ded

>>147297102
He looks so much better with his hair down.

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>>147304947
It's a pretty rad dango though.

I know Gahkthun isn't otome but what are some other games like it? Like it's in the girl's PoV.
And I'd prefer it being translated.

>>147314435
The other Steampunk games.

>>147314592
I've read those already.

Does anyone name the heroine or do you just leave it on default name if possible?

From JAST Q&A
>Q: do any yaoi?
>A: there are certain realities that make yaoi harder to do.. the studios that owns the rights to the voice actors say to make this version of the game in english, you have to pay secondary royalties in english, which can be hundreds of thousands... or we can do the game without voices... we could do the game with english voices.. and that wouldn't really appeal to fans either... it's kinda a barrier and we're trying to work around it

>>147314892
>you have to pay secondary royalties in english, which can be hundreds of thousands
Is that how royalties work now? Paying a flat amount? I've always thought if a copy sells they share a profit from it.

>>147314976
Well, I suppose they mean the costs to buy the rights to reproduce the voices in an English release.

>>147314892
It seems like this is the primary issue for most localizing companies trying to localize otome or bl.

>>147290345
For Jpn-depot, it's +200 yen for every additional box.

>>147314736
I used to name the heroine, but recently I leave it on default since more games have the name voiced.

>>147314892
>>147315396
I still don't understand why this is an issue for BL and Otome, but not for other VNs.

http://follow.jastusa.com/post/146838076786/have-you-considered-putting-yo-jin-bo-onto-steam

Yo-Jin-Bo might be coming to steam.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2WtB-v5HWi4

>>147308508
>Hades second
Japan, where does that good taste suddenly come from?

>>147314892
I don't mind if they never do a BL game; they're a terrible company with bad taste.

Anyone expecting anything from Sekai tonight? It's about time they license some otome game that no one asked for or heard about.

>love interest tells only half of the truth of his problem
>MC wants to give advice
>love interest gets mad, as in 'what do you even know about this'
God fucking hell, I'm mad as fuck.

>>147316936
The voice actors used are usually more famous and mainstream. The agencies behind the actors can be the problem too.

>>147326998
I saw that recently too. What game?

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Does anyone even remember this game?

>>147337519
Yes

>>147276602
I don't know why they just can't ignore the routes of characters they don't like like any sane, non-retarded person would.

>>147338525
That VN only has 2 love interests, meaning they'd only be getting half a fairly short VN to begin with if they didn't like one of them.

>>147338718
In that case it's reasonable if they're not being triggered faggots about it, but in the cases that there's more than two they shouldn't act like it's the only boy in the game.

Either way though there's no way fiction could trigger someone to the extent that they can't play something at all even if they hear it's very good just because it contains one element like that, unless they're a barely functioning parasite, or simply lying and trying to scare people into not liking what they don't like by using social justice and morals.

>>147314736
I always leave it on default. Don't get the point of making an OC name.

>>147338525
>Ignore routes

I'd rather just ignore the game entirely. I don't continue playing anything I don't intend to fully complete.

>>147340367
So you won't read a good VN just because of one boy? Pathetic.

>>147338525
Not relevant to that game, but many games have unlockable routes, so you'll have to pursue all boys if you want the true end.

>>147340512
It can't be a good VN if there's one route that's automatically not worth playing.

>>147340736
What could possibly trigger you that much?

>>147340736
>automatically
>writing them off before you even try
wow

>>147340782
Shitty routes.

I don't care about this game to begin with, but saying "they can ignore the route!" is dumb because not everyone is willing to put money down on a game just to play part of it. It's easier to ignore it altogether.

>>147341035
How could you know they're shitty if you don't play them?

>>147340736
Even the best VNs have one or more routes that aren't very good. Clannad is comsidered a kamige and people think entire routes of it are just boring.

>>147341035
We're talking about ignoring a route because of the character type of the guy, not because it's a bad route.

>>147341083
What are reviews?

>>147341125
How shocking, different people have different standards.

>>147341169
Point still stands.

>>147341326
>What are reviews?
>How shocking, different people have different standards.
I think you just contradicted yourself.

>>147341326
So how do you determine what to read; go through dozens of reviews and disregard any game where a couple of people say they don't like a route? Do you ever read anything?

>>147341326
>>147341035
>Point still stands.
So you don't play a game if one of the routes is i.e. a typical S, even if the game itself is highly praised?
Do you even play games at all?

>>147337519
It was really good, but jfc Georik could be really dumb in some routes.

>>147341461
Did I?

>Multiple people saying one route is bad for x and y reasons> can surmise that one route is bad for x and y reasons

Multiple people having different standards on what they consider a kamige even if they can agree that a game is flawed > can surmise that multiple people have different standards on what they consider a kamige even if they can agree that a game is flawed?

>>147342060
I go with what interests me. If there's one part that I am 100% guaranteed to not like I stop playing. Like I said in >>147341035 only guaranteed shit quality keeps me from playing, which is not even the point. The point is that not everyone would be willing to get into a game if there's one part they already know they won't like.

>>147342328
>Sees the point and still misses it

I find that with the exception of Rejet and R-18 games doS guys are not that hardcore and only tend to be shit if they come with some other dodgy trait(like yandere). They're not my type but I usually enjoy them. Bocchi Musume's was the most normal one out of the trio and a good guy.

Although the way the term doS is casually thrown around in otoge makes it feel lighter than the term sadist. Being an EOP and hearing a guy described as a sadist must give off a more intense impression.

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>>147343034
Everyone was dumb as a brick in one route or another.

>>147343259
>The point is that not everyone would be willing to get into a game if there's one part they already know they won't like.
It just comes across as you being overly selective. I've never even heard of anyone doing this before. A long VN is bound to have a couple rough spots, so it just sounds like you'd end up dropping 99% of what you'd end up playing.

>>147343753
Archetypes in general often get thrown around to describe characters as their sole defining trait when it isn't.

>thing goes out of stock
>goes back in stock but have no money
>get money
>out of stock
Just kill me

>>147344610
Also does anyone else constantly get timeout errors on Stellaworth?

>>147343824
It's called being picky. I don't know what western pigs outside of this thread do but there are lots of Japanese with the mentality of going in a game with the intent to fully complete it or not going in at all. And I'm not even that picky, but just saying "they can just ignore a route" is ridiculous because not everyone feels that way.

>>147343259
>The point is that not everyone would be willing to get into a game if there's one part they already know they won't like.
I can understand thinking like this when it comes to plot or themes, or something else that effects the entirely of the game, but not a single route.
Sometimes there are guys or routes that aren't my type or I didn't enjoy, but I saw they added value to the overall VN. Avoiding a game that otherwise sounds like something you'd be into because of one guy/route is a waste.

>>147344610
Is it listed as sold out for good now or are they restocking?

And yeah Stella does that. It sucks.

>>147343753
But aren't the only Rejet games with a full cast of doS characters Diabolik Lovers and Bad Medicine? Even BWS only had Mejojo and Auger as sadists.

>>147344736
Usually only once, after that it'll work fine for at least half a day.

>>147345319
>Is it listed as sold out for good now or are they restocking?
Restocking. It's just annoying because there's other things I also want and with my luck they'll go by the time the other thing goes back in stock.

>>147345418
Alice=Alice and Gekka had a few, their cd series have a lot, and I didn't play it but apparently MoshiKami did. I didn't say anything about entire casts.

>>147345472
That sucks. If you have the cash I'd say make two orders and combine them. From my own experience it's never taken Stella more than a week to restock something they had listed as restocking.

>>147343753
>the way the term doS is casually thrown around in otoge makes it feel lighter than the term sadist

The ironing is that the "do" part is supposed to mean that they are more sadistic than regular sadists. I suppose it's because of how popular Rejet (and Otomate) are that people will assume that every other otome game is made just like theirs.

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Feels like in these birthday pics the boys are steadily losing more clothes

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>>147347680
>that ever so slight nipple peek
Oh my

>>147349158
Reminds me that I have to finally start I DOLL U.

>>147350901
It sucks, don't bother.

>>147351347
How does it suck?
And I already bought it, so I'll have to play it sooner or later.

>>147351570
I've never managed to finish it (finished the guy with the fear of woman, cat shota and red) because it was just so goddamn boring and full of every idol cliche imaginable.
The way they implemented kiss system is incredibly stupid, too "I fell on top of him, so let's just make out. That's obviously the best thing to do, even though I'm supposed to pretend I'm a guy.".

>>147352504
Eh, guess I'll hope that the cute boys will entertain me enough so that I won't get bored.

>>147343824
Not that anon, but a in a lot of games, it's not easy to ignore that one or several route you hate because the characters show up in the common route and even in other boy's routes.

Value wise, you will never feel satisfied with the game because there's going to be a whole route that you hate. It's terrible if you're a completionist.

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>Guy is older and known as the reliable big brother of the group
>He's quick-tempered and more irrational than half the cast

Shit, I think Yosuke, Takt, even fucking Kazuki might be more mature than Yuji. I don't hate the guy but I don't know if I can call this a gap moe

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>>147354589
I hated Mitsuhara and his route in Sweet Clown, enough that I muted that fucker.
But the game was still amazing, and definitely worth the money.
I don't see how one character can ruin an entire game, especially if it's not the MC.

>>147355174
Yuji was part of the reason I dropped the game. I couldn't stand any of the interactions with him.

>>147354589
I've never felt like that even with the guys I really hate. Having them show up in other routes isn't a big deal.

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Touken Ranbu Anthology Chapter 14
https://mega.nz/#!nNMXyTQQ!3D9qL_ONFJoYDBkZEqz0gEYjiwQaKbwvXYoWzEo0Gcg

From all the games you've played; who is your favorite boy?

>>147357714
Thanks!

>>147343753
>the term doS is casually thrown around in otoge

This is largely true I would have to say.
Japan tends to use S or M pretty often as personality types.

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Congrats to Bocchi Musume, it was one of the more enjoyable and accessible R18 recently, even if the jokes were only about 70% funny, 10% meh and 20% cringey.
Just after Kalmia8 teases their new game too.
http://kalmia8.jp/kamiyon/

And I hope they _don't_ bring over Torikago no Marriage, that was a slog with batshit characters.

Aksys is bringing over the Code Realize FD and Bad Apple Wars.

>>147355265
>>147355564
The last game I dropped was because the tsundere character stayed annoyingly obnoxious despite the route being halfway done and none of the others sounded appealing enough. Before that was because the slut character decided to molest the MC that he just met for the first time in front of his fangirls and I immediately lost interest in reading any further.

It's nice that you can force yourself through a bad route, but personally if I'm trying to enjoy something I'd like it to stay enjoyable all throughout.

Sure, skipping one route is an option, as long as you're not a completionist and are somehow okay with putting so much focus on a game just to potentially miss out on story details/true route requirements/etc.

If someone doesn't like an aspect/trait enough to pick up a game regardless of the quality, that's up to them. I once read someone say that they will never play one of my favorite games because they hate otome games with gameplay but there's nothing I can do about that. The only thing I wouldn't want is people spreading misinformation about a game simply for going against their preferences. In any case, I haven't seen anyone do that with Bocchi Musume but I'm not going out of my way to look.

>>147361050
>Bad Apple Wars

Would've preferred Re:Vice[D], Trigger Kiss, or Glass Heart Princess

>>147361423
>The only thing I wouldn't want is people spreading misinformation about a game simply for going against their preferences.
I see people doing this a lot after reading trials and then jumping to all sorts of conclusions about the whole thing.

>>147361050

I swear they only ever bring the games I've fullcomped.

>>147361050
Also Period Cube and Collar x Malice. All 2017.

>two shit games and two not released yet
Other than the C;R FD those are some strange choices. Psychedelica is practically begging for a localization.

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>No Hanayaka

Fine, I just wanted the sequel and it's pretty cheap now anyway.

>>147361990
They're also trying to localize Hakuouki: Sweet School Life.

So did Aksys decide to skip the Norn9 fandisc because of the backlash they received for the translation of the first? Still waiting for Clock Zero one day

I hope Aksys lets someone test these games first at least.

>>147361423
I have no problem dropping something that sucks, but if the rest of a game is good one character being bad is nothing. I'll never skip a route in a good game regardless.

My kusoge sensor is pretty good though so I rarely have issues like the ones you mentioned. If I read something that bad I'd just drop it right away.

I can't wait for even worse translations. They couldn't handle two games, how are they going to do four of them? It's gonna be outsourced again, no other way.

Thank god I started learning nip years ago, so I don't have to put of with this shit.

I hope Aksys fails.

After the Norn9 mess I'll definitely wait for reviews first before buying any of Aksys' localizations.

>>147362601
I'm actually glad Psychedelica isn't on their list. Don't want to see Aksys ruining such a great game with shitty memes and crappy translation.

>>147364709
If you played Psychadelica, you know nip, right? Why would you buy localizations in the first place then?

>>147364973
My nip is still awful so I have to look up a lot of things, and even then I'm not sure if I got it right. Of course I plan on improving, but it's also nice to be able to play a game and fully understand it.

>>147357714
This one was amazingly cute. Thanks as always.

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>>147365272
You'll never improve if you don't challenge yourself.

>>147365272
>I have to look up a lot of things
that's part of the learning process, friend. don't expect to be able to read anything smoothly when you start, and don't expect to learn without a lot of reading. and this continues to apply even as your Japanese become decent, and you move onto difficult things.

>>147365272
Improve by reading as much nip as possible, even if it takes you forever.
Awful Aksys translations don't deserve your money.

Was the Code: Realize translation that bad? Didn't seem to hear much complaining about it.

>>147363284
>>147361050
>>147361990
>>147361990
Jesus, Aksys going hard. I wonder if the cost/return investment of Code:Realize and Norn9 really did that well

>>147365627
>>147366075
>>147366180
There's still a shit ton of games I'm interested in that probably won't be localized so it's not like I'll stay away from Japanese games now just because of these few announcements.

How long did you guys study before you're able to breeze through a game? Any special tricks to improve more quickly?

>>147366474
don't listen to the kanji forcefeed meme. grammar should be started as early as possible. context is your friend.

>>147366474
>Any special tricks to improve more quickly?
Read.

>>147366474
Might just be me, but re-reading things a few months after first finishing them really helped me when I first started out.
Also don't try to remember every new kanji right away. Look it up, then move on. You'll see the common ones often enough, they'll stick sooner or later.

>>147361050
>>147361990
>FD
>Angel Beats Otome
>trapped in MMO
Those sure are some save, but shitty choices.
Makes me wonder why they choose to get Collar Malice, they don't even know if nips like it. Though I guess they're hoping on just selling it with the art.

>>147366474
Make it to the point where you can read shit like Doraemon and Yostuba&, then start to challenge yourself.

>>147366474
PC games with text hooker

>inb4 the Vita meme

>>147366720
>>147367180
>>147367431
>>147368131
So grammar, (re-)reading and instead of obsessing over every single kanji it's better to focus on common ones? Will keep that in mind, thanks.

Is bad apple wars bad?

>>147368621
Nah, but it's nothing special.
Except for Sugita's acting, that was godly.

>>147368547
dictionary of basic & intermediate japanese grammar (Seiichi Makino) is great, only downside is it uses romaji which is beginner's cancer.

if you're a disorganized person who needs routine, use a textbook and workbook to set yourself up at least for one volume.

>>147368621
If you saw Angel Beats you know what happens in like half of the game. I found it not worth the full price.

>>147361990
At least I might get two games I wasn't interested enough to buy in Japanese for cheap during some PSN sales

>>147368621
It's kind of short and repetitive, but it has nice music and it's really easy to play.
CGs are iffy at times,but the game itself is atmospheric (backgrounds, UI, etc.).
Some side charas don't have sprites, but the voice acting was great for all charas.
It was similar to Angel Beats, but it didn't really feel the same.

It was a mediocre game at best.

>>147368453
>Vita meme
what?

>>147371728
Can't play PC games and need it on Vita.

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So, I enjoyed Code: Realize quite a lot. I was surprised how good it was (compared to Hakuoki, the other otome game I played)
So, any of the recently announced otomes from Aksys worth be hyped for? I'll be getting the C:R fandisk for sure

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>>147380342
All of them, because beggars can't be choosers, and my moon is not progressing quickly at all

>>147380342
Neither BAW or Period Cube as good as C;R. I'd put them slightly above Norn9, so between shit/mediocre.

Wait and see how Collar Malice turns out before deciding what to get.

>>147380342
While I did enjoy BAW, it was mostly mediocre. From what I've heard, Period Cube is only decent as well (although I'm thinking I'll probably get that sometime before the English release). Too soon to tell for CollarxMalice, which won't be out until next month in Japan.

As another anon said, I'm surprised they haven't grabbed Psychedelica yet.

>>147314736
I name her Bella Swan when possible.

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>>147384228
Since she's apparently old enough to be a career woman and the guys don't appear to be over 20 it would be neat to have her worry about whether an old lady like her should be fooling around with young boys ara ara, but I don't think my fetish will be pandered to

Are announcements done?

>>147388348
I think Sekai's panel is soon, though I'm not betting on anything /blog/.

Nothing from Sekai for those who were hoping for something for some reason.

>>147386468
>>147384228
More cakes should play around with these fuckbois, though she doesn't act her age.

>>147386468
>>147397252
She doesn't give me any cake vibes. I'd put her in her early twenties at best.

>>147381853
I guess they don't think the art will sell.

>>147397604
I was planning to buy C:R FD in nip but I guess I'll wait to see if their translation is shit, then it's going to be nip anyway. Not that the first game was badly adaptated.

I didn't even touch these other games but they don't seem that good too.

>>147397869
Shit son, didn't mean to quote. >>147397604

>Verite delayed one month to 09.01

Fuck, I won't be able to get it while in Japan

>>147381310
>Period Cube
>above Norn9
No way in hell, Norn9 is superior in pretty much every way except plot conclusion (which also gets kinda fixed with the FD).
Period Cube is way shorter, has a generic story, as good as no love progression(they fall in love in what, 5 days?), the CGs are a mess and the MC is boring compared to Mikoto or Nanami.
The only thing Period Cube really does great are cute characters and interactions. And the bad ends.

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>>147405082

>>147397604
>She doesn't give me any cake vibes.
That's the devastating part.

>>147405082
>>147407073
I still like this anime. It was dumb, but dumb in a fun and cheesy way.

>>147343773
I guess that's how it made those routes work. I'm still sad about Dashwood's fate and how terribly Ruthberg's route ended.

>>147400728
This pains me. I love Norn9 too, why can't aksys release the FD :<

>>147418346
>:<
Fuck off.

>>147418869
What? Are you okay? Did you hit your head?

So I've bought :
-Norn 9 FD
-Re Viced
-Arcana Famiglia
-Clock Zero (the most promising of the bunch)
-hakuouki highschool (looks pretty mediocre, but I got it because of sensei fetish)

All the while being barely able to translate because of lack of vocabulary, and unable to get the sentences with a complexe structure.

I keep on piling up games I can't play yet because it is a way to keep my motivation high enough to continue training my shitty jap.

Next buy will probably be CollarxMalice unless it is told to be even shittier than Amnesia or a mobage game.
And maybe the vérité thing even if the art isn't exactly pleasing.

Are there other games with sensei romance ?

>>147380342

C:R is like an improved Hakukouki.
It has the exact same plot except the story allows the heroine to be more than a cute bystander.

Cute girl whose father mysteriously disapeared.
Creepy shouta little bro obssessed with her.
Girl is special.
Vampire.

Also what is a bit frustrating in hakuouki is that it took years for the romance to develop.

>>147418982
it's edgy easily offended anon. Don't mind.

>>147419207
Thanks, thats reassuring. I can't even imagine of someone screaming like that all day.

>>147419159
I've heard Clock Zero isn't beginner friendly with its psuedo science.

I'm in a similar situation as you since I already have about 10 games with two more coming soon, and I'm barely able to understand them. But I keep buying them so it's kinda of a sickness now.

>>147419159
It's good challenging yourself but if you're feeling kinda lost you could do easier games for now like high school settings and/or pc+texthooker to build some vocabulary and grammar. When you move to fantasy/science fiction settings you can mine from one route and review until you get familiar with whatever terminology they are using.

>can't even call out shitty smileys
This general sure went to shit.

There's new Inma stuff? Thanks for the notice on the earlier thread, anon. The dynamic between the two was interesting. I would like to hear more guys with deeper/older voices though. I really enjoyed the one with Kazuhiko.

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>>147426631
The 3P tokuten track really made me want a follow up CD with those two. They make such a cute icha-icha 3P couple with a bit of friendly rivalry.

Not a fan of older voices, but something deeper like Yasumoto I could totally get behind.

>>147428328
>cute icha-icha 3P couple with a bit of friendly rivalry
Yes. More of that theme would be great to hear.

>>147422520
we're already a tumblr

>>147428328
>>147429329
Not 3P, but if you want icha icha couples, give the Love Toxic series a try.
The SoL tracks were so cute, it almost made me skip the porn in between.

>>147430851
Nice. Thanks. I think I saw the covers for that a few threads back. The one with bacouples, right?

>>147422520
>implying that's new
That's been going on for years.

>>147433054
Not in here, at least not for years.

>>147433223
Yes, it has. I remember as far back as 2013.

Notice how it's always EOPs who do that shit anyway. And they appear when we get announcements.

>>147433418
Ahh yes, there's that one shitposter who always stirs up shit for no reason claiming not to be an EOP or hates X thing but never tells us what they like. Yeah, it's always the EOPs.

>>147433319
/blog/ had been relatively peaceful for a while and then one or two people decided to shit this place up about a year ago.

>>147434056
/blog/ is dead 99% of the time.

>>147434543
Better to just let it die now than watch this shitfest.

>>147434767
What shitfest? People dragging on some garbage because some newfag threw in a smiley, and reminiscing the "good old times" that didn't exist?

>>147434846
C'mon anon, don't pretend you're some oldfag when you are obviously so new. Let this thread just die without any more of your shitposting. The whole general is on its death bed, supported by bumps and shitposting.

>>147434846

It's funny how the follow up posts after someone does/says something retarded are always worse than the post itself, yet they think they're fixing the place.

People need to learn how to use the report function when someone shitposts instead of backseat modding.

>>147435082
Hello, hypocrite.

>>147435051
/blog/ has always been dead outside the sword rush.

>>147435051
You sound like the shitposter and like your goal is to kill this general.

So what's Good Haro's other REDACTED?

>>147435082
Yeah, let's just say nothing about shitty posts and smileys to make the tumblr crowd feel at home.

>>147433418
That's not true though. Most annoying review bloggers use those and I know for a fact that many of them go here, due to what they post on twitter.

>>147435491
You sound like the shitposter who is trying to get attention and ruined the general in the first place. On the other hand I've only posted four times in this thread, yet look at all this bullshit you've created, it would be better if the general died.

>>147436336
The extent it's dragged on for and the following temper tantrums like >>147436457 are ridiculous.

>>147436503
>I'm not throwing a fit! That person is, I promise!
Try harder, anon. You are only dragging it on longer.

Are there any otome games where the main theme is cooking?

>>147439595
Issho ni Gohan and Ayakashi Gohan, but I found both of them to be extremely boring.

>>147439784
Not that Anon, but may I ask if you were initially interested or excited knowing full well the premise or do you think it was still too boring?

They give me the sol like vibes that I've been seeking to explore more in otome.

>>147440418
I like SoLs, but Issho ni Gohan had next to no romance and the ending somehow made huge parts of the plot pointless. Also stupid mini games that are neither challenging nor fun.

And Ayakashi Gohan was 80% common route, which is something I hate. I appreciate the heroine having a different personality depending on whether you go ayakashi or human route, tho. She also didn't suck as hard as most Honey Bee MCs do.

>>147439595
I thought Issho ni Gohan was actually pretty cute, but it is mostly slice of life, and your enjoyment of the routes will depend on how much you like the guys.

There's also Arcobaleno.

>>147439595
While the game isn't necessarily centered solely on cooking, one of the main themes of Ayakashi Gohan is the happiness of sharing delicious food. It has a rural setting and comfy atmosphere (with OST by based Manyo). I wouldn't call it a great game, but I liked it quite a bit and would recommend it.

>>147441526
>80% common route
what do you think is the best distribution for common vs. hero route? I personally like it about 50/50, but I'm flexible depending on how long the character-specific events are in common route based on your choices.

>>147448465
I like them short in SoLs, so it leaves more time for romantic development. And I don't really care in plot heavy games.

>>147448465
Different anon, but I prefer short common routes, so I guess 10/90 or 20/90. Just enough to introduce everyone.
Since it's a pain to skip a bunch of stuff (because I'll forget things after the 3rd to 4th route).

>>147448465
I like a pretty long common route, maybe 50/50 or 60/40.

>>147449678
But why? It's such a pain unless the game has a skip to next choice function, or adds a character select screen after the first route.

>>147352504
Started it, and you were right, it really is shit. Mainly the writing.
I mean, what kind of writer uses !!!!! and ?????? and !?!?!?!? as reactions for the MC?
God dammit.

>>147450047
I like having plenty of time to get to know the characters, as well as see everyone interact with each other, before moving on into specific branches. Skipping through common route on subsequent plays usually only bothers me when there's too many choices, sluggish skip mode, or an unskippable aspect such as gameplay elements.

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>貴女はごく普通の女子高校生

>>147448465
Around 40/60 sounds good to me. If there's a flowchart, anything up to 60/40 is fine too.

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NEVER EVER

>>147419159
>sensei romance

It's on the PSP, but have you played Hatsukare Renai Debut Sengen?
The game has one sensei route and the whole thing was cute and sweet.

>>147458408
>No summer stream this year

Rejet is kill

>>147463201

(´・ω・｀)ｼｮﾎﾞｰﾝ

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Are there any Japanese blogs or EGS reviewers devoted to more obscure BL or otome releases? Surely there has to be some buried treasures that we don't know about.

>>147384228
What is this from?