/twg/ - Total War General

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NAGASH WAS WEAK

All these mad greeks

I have a degree at the Pontus University of War. My degree is in advanced hammer and anvil tactics. If you can't see how that makes me a better general than you, let me spell it out. Don't get too ANTIUCkd up now ;).

The very best fighting is done with fresh shock cavalryman. Fresh lances. Fresh horses. Let me ask you- where do horses breed? Where are lances made? Where do men train? Where is armour made? In the foundries. In the fire. under the watch of a skilled general. They are effected by the stregist and, therefore, so is the eventual killing poterntial of the cavalryman. Have you ever charged into a unit and it held firm? That has never happened to me. I can identify firm infantry just by looking at a formation because I have studied the effects of morale for my entire life. I can identify over 90 kinds of military training programs in academies and colleges. I can virtually guarentee that the majority of you are charging pikeman which have 'spear wall', a deadly tactic from the times of great Makedonian Cuckening that causes pikeman to take on 'defensible formations'. You don't understand war so you can't identify it, and your heavy cavalry tactics work like fucking shit as a result.

So go ahead. Tell us again how Hammer and Anvil isn't the best tactic for fighting wars. Throw another mediocre light cavalry in that stack; Toss another horse archer into your formation. Meanwhile I will be using the highest quality lancers from the worlds best training facilities.

Oh, and I work for a major mercenary company identifying formations for their charges. So I get paid handsomely. So nobody on this forum has any dirt on me. I could buy and sell pretty much everyone here because of the way my trve vnderstanding of strategy effects my battles.

Posting this again since last thread died.

Has anyone tested out the Chosen units since the patch?

Im not sure it is a bug but they are unbreakable, i tried them against greatswords and their morale never broke even at 3 men which caused them to then beat the greatswords.

Same for Chosen with halberds vs Demigryphs, the chosen won because they could not be broken.

Is this a bug it does not state they are immune to psychology or unbreakable.

*makes the going to /gsg/ post*
*does the >playing on not-ultra post*
*posts picture of vampire chan*
*roleplays an orc*
*complains about how fantasy fags killed /twg/*
*complains about how history fags killed /twg/(?)*
*sigvalds good*
*posts a cap of dwarfs killing 7000 zombies*
*comments on being a trve understander*
*rhetorically asks why pontus was added*
*complains about someone who posted a caps graphics quality*
*summons the elector counts*
*complains about an anime reaction image*
*posts an obscure screencap from a gunpowder /twg/ and never elaborate on context*
*asks when tomb kings will be added*
*makes "we wuz tomb kangz" joke*
*asks what the most reddit faction is*
*asks what mod*
*radious mod*

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>>147192958

>WE'Z GOBBOS NOW

AAAAAIIIIIIIIEEEEEEE

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Why do ranged units automatically = bad in melee?

There is no reason for a missile unit to have the strength and swordsmanship of a school girl.

>>147193262
BOW SAMURAI

>>147193262
What are dwarf ranged units?

>>147193262
Balance.

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>>147193381
puppy chow

>>147193262
Because when you spend time training with a bow you're not spending time fencing
Because armor costs a lot and is heavy

>>147193262
It's hard to fire a bow in plate

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"And here we see the mating ritual of the Imperial Steam Tank, vigorous thrusting and cannon fire, also do note, Steam Tanks frequently engage in gang rape"

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>>147193262
>tfw no Two Rivers longbowmen

>>147193372
Best samurais desu

>>147193704
Why are steam tanks even a thing? They are literally a bucket of water and coal on rickety wagon wheels.

>>147193704
>Steam tanks frequently engage in gang rape

motherfucker caused me to spit my coffee

holy shit

>>147193868
Why are Arachnarok spiders even a thing? They are literally Charlotte with some ugly children wielding sticks.

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Post webms.

>>147193072
What's that quote from?

>>147193868


Have you ever chopped down a tree with an axe? Just curious because it seems most people don't realise how fucking strong wood is. (iron plated wood in this case)

>>147193109
I don't know anything about that. I just finished smacking Sigvald around and he had an entire stack of Chosen.

They started routing at about 20 and 30 men. They were all dog-tired, and I was using two mid-tier VC stacks with two units of Blood Dragons giving cycle charges.

>>147194268
magnetto from the x-men children of the atom arcade game

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If our bastard is to become king
Military ruler of the north

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>have this dude chain sack some manlets
>gets this trait
what the fuck

>>147194401
Cheers.

no seriously

>>147194337
The problem is public perception due to Hollywood props. Wood (and glass) explodes at the slightest touch in the movies.

>>147194478
Mannfred quote when he's casting
>NAGASH WAS WEAK, WITNESS TRUE POWER

>>147194479
I swear to god, one of my finest swords tips got stuck in the rim of a wooden shield. Would have cost a life right there.

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>>147194474
they are

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>>147193934

youre welcome m'lad

>tfw Helblasters are worth it now because of the gore they create

Am I just a weeb or is Shogun 2 far and away the best game? The other's haven't been able to hold my attention.

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>>147194675
He did seem to keep that to himself once nagash got back. He's all talk that one

>>147194907
a little bit of both

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>>147194675
WELCOME TO MINE REALM

>>147194962
It's a lot easier to talk shit about people when they're dead

>>147194907
it was the best until Warhammer

>>147194479


This. Motherfuckers out there today actually think that a sword can pierce through plate armor. This never happens, the human framce cannot generate enough force to allow this to happen. You either had to use a polaxe or some other two-handed affair like a halberd to be able to get enough power into a point to break through.

Since were on the subject, I also hate how bow and arrows are treated as just medieval guns. There's a reason you switched to primitive shitty muskets instead of bows because the actual kninetic force of gunpowder weapons are incredible to what you can get from bows.

>>147195306
This

>>147194369
I tried 1v1s in custom battle, it seems a bit strange. The great weapons variant wont route.

>>147195389
>There's a reason you switched to primitive shitty muskets instead of bows because the actual kninetic force of gunpowder weapons are incredible to what you can get from bows.

Please don't trigger me with your ignorance. I am aware that with TW:WH history discussion has died out, but don't spread misinformation.

>>147195389
That, and it takes a fuckload less time to teach somebody to load, point, and fire a musket in time with his buddies than to do the same plus firing for range plus the physical conditioning required for archers.

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>>147193262
u wot m8

>>147193109
look at their morale stat during battle to see whats giving buffs and debuffs to it, I just tried (with some pretty uncooperative ai) some chosen match ups and halberds seem to beat halberd gryphs, gw beat greatswords and regular chosen v greatswords is unsure yet (1 general died so that caused a rout)

>>147195714
Werent Tercos absurdly strong but moderately priced to compensate for the issues Christianity caused?

>>147195623


Yeah please tune us in on how bows and crossbows are actually superior cause that's what you've seen on Walking Dead or whatever.

Genevieve Dieudonné legendary hero when?

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Dorfies strong.

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>>147196634
>3 unit frontline

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What mods do you guys recommend for Medieval 2? I'm looking for something that goes more in-depth into the politics of Europe, something that will add more nations and more provinces.

>>147196808
Radious

Anyone else having problems with the TWW patch? Game crashes out when I try to load battles.

>>147196808
Crusader Kings 2.

But seriously Total War isn't geared up for politics. Stainless Steel is a good starting point, although I'm not sure if it will meet your expectations RE: politics.

>>147196737
Quarrelers are fucking broken.

>>147196950

When I mentioned the politics I didn't really mean politicking. I'm looking for a mod that reflects the true borders of Europe, and *maybe* adds some more nuance to the government. Like a special government type for the HRE, which reflects that it wasn't just one big country.

>>147196921
Started a new campaign with all mods disables and the new DLC disabled - still crashes.

Lame as fuck. Guess I'll play more FOTS.

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>>147196991
>Cruising through Dwai campaign with like 14 quarrelers, a couple cannon and only 3 IB
>EZ game EZ life
>Time to remove bloodsuckers
>All of their infantry and lesser flying units melt before getting to the IBs
>Suddenly army with 4 Vargulfs
>eh big whoop Quarrelers OP
>mfw they charge right through 3 full volleys and past the IBs without a scratch

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>>147193072
For such a bitch lore-wise, they sure gave him some baller lines

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>that time you pissed off the AI with grave guard

TOMB KANGZ WHEN REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

I'm playing Brets with a mod, and their starting zone is so easy and comfy after you take out the Mousillon shits.

When they add Beastmen and Dark Elves it'll be a much more stressful area to play in, I'm sure.

>>147197903
If you take the pants-on-head-up-ass retarded End Times out of the equation, he becomes significantly more likable.

>>147192958
So is Warhammer undoubtedly the best total war game out now? I purchased Attila a few weeks back and I'm loving it so far. I wasn't familiar with the World Craft/Warhammer series.

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>cruising down the street in my 64'

>>147198780
after we get a lizard waifu

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>>147199109

smashing the skellies, slapping the ho's

>>147198978
Yeah. Shogun 2 is the only one that even comes close but it suffers from a critical lack of unit and faction variety.

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>>147198780


hopefully long after I get my Amazon waifus

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FUCKING DENUVO REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>147199495
the small number of factions is the one thing that made me hold off but I'm glad I got it

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Oh baby

Holy shit what can I do about all the agent spam in Rome 2?

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requesting warhammer roll pic plox

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>>147201303

>>147196074
No they where balanced because you could only recruit them from the province you built the required building in since you could only build one, unless you happend to capture one and enemy built which is quite rare.

>>147201336
simon says play _____________

>>147201336
pls no VCs

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How the fuck do I beat dwarfs?

They just do not fucking die and I think my team composition is good too, it's fucking annoying. I think I should remove vargulfs altogether, they die really easily.

>>147201724
YOU MUST FULFILL YOUR SLAYER OATH

>>147201774
but i got the meme guy in the chair

>>147201742
You need more troops

>>147201830
I realized that after I hit submit.
Meme king is superior anyways, play him

>>147201839
I also need to cover names properly

so what do you suggest when it comes to "more troops"

remove vargheist squishies?

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> Tomb Kings still not announced

>>147201336
Rollin

Okay taken a break from the game for a bit while waiting for me DLC. Going to start a new empire campaign to try the blood and gore stuff. Other than Molet's Magic Mod are there any other new mods worth checking out at the same time?

>>147201336
Rell

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>>147202141
>Kislev still not announced.

>>147201971

Not him, but you literally need more troops.

Blood Knights aren't Demi's. They're meant for anti-large engagements, and while they're adequate at anything else, they're not the rip and tear demigryphs.

Basically, drop the blood knights, buy some Cairn Wraiths and a Necromancer, and run around in a death star spamming invocation of Nehek.

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>>147202371
>Turn 115
>Apocalypse still not announced

>>147202246
just cosmetic stuff. Get Building Progression Icons

>>147202429
Do blood knight beat halberd demi's?

>It's a Kislev get's murdered in the first fifty turns episode

I don't even know who kills them. They start off incredibly strong, with 3 provinces under their control, including two economic powerhouses.

Yet somehow, they always die.

>>147202731

No. Very little does 1v1, except Chosen and Ironbreakers. And neither of those are a sure bet.

>>147202836
Chaos m8, they are ment to buy time and die.

>>147202960
Good, I was worried demi's would get nerfed into the ground, I hate that, balance shit not just make it shitty.

Kislev will probably be bundled with Tilea and Estalia in a minor human factions DLC

Why are Slayers so bad? Honestly.

Am i just using them wrong? Even when they manage to flank something they lose.

>>147203105

They got made more expensive, got their armor piercing and speed nerfed, and a normal damage buff.

They'll still win against almost anything.

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Here's my Varghulf, Mumei, who I started the campaign with facing off against Tzeentch. She's come so far. I'm so proud.

>>147203361
No armor is a hell of a drug

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>>147203317
That would be a pretty good dlc. "Not-Italy" and "Not-Spain" would be nice factions for the history fags. Tag on the Border Princes but I have no fucking idea what they would be like fleshed out.

>>147203361
Not balanced right, they may get fixed but the only total war games to ever end up decently balanced where rome: BI and shogun 2. Everything else is left with half the factions underpowered with one or 2 dominant ones. Balance and decent AI are something CA is to lazy to do right or just incompetent.

>>147203613
You playing on 4k? Whats your gpu

Is there a way to manually aim artillery in Shogun 2? I'm planning to kill a vassal without incurring the global diplomacy penalty, and I figured the best way would be to have a rebellion take out their stacks with a little friendly fire from my reinforcements.

>>147202731
>>147202960
>>147203105

Actually they do. It's very close and could go to RNG, but Blood Knights normally win. As do Hexwraiths.

>>147203717
The Border Princes are if all the Slavs and Greeks and Romanians united to fight off Turks

>no "Restoration of Lechtenburg" achievement for conquering the Border Princes as the Emprie

Why?

>>147203785
I'm not sure but I think that mechanic got introduced in fall of the samurai on.

>>147203915
Ah, that's a shame. Guess I'll have to wait for the melee to begin before firing indiscriminately into the ranks.

MoS vassals have way too many fullstacks for sitting on one Barren provinces.

>>147203889
I haven't played with the patch yet but demi's with halberds always slaughtered hexraiths for me so you must be either not testing right or lying.

>>147203785
>>147203915
You can aim mangonels, it should be the same key as in fots. Page Down or Insert or something like that, I forget, but I'm sure you can do it.

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Tzeentch was no match

>>147203784
r9 fury. on mostly with some medium mixed in I get around 30 fps in battles. Sometimes I get a little more, sometimes it can dip down to 20 in certain situations but not often. Campaign map only give me about 20fps though.

>>147203613
She doesn't look like a habanero

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>blood knights not in raise dead pool

>>147204085

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ac48tDkqbR0

It's close and your hexwraiths are going to be pretty defunct afterwards.

>>147204293
No. I just want to fill her belly full of blood and guts

>>147203613
Beautiful screenshot there, anon. I especially like the Graveguard, you caught a very dynamic moment.

that's not actually Tzeentch though, just one of his Lords of Change

>>147204306

why would they be

>>147202731
>>147202960
>>147203105

I should mention that Blood Knights are actually more expensive than Demi's, so you're still getting your money's worth from the Halberd Demi's from the very close fight.

>>147201336
rollenn

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blowing up gremlins is fun

Any DLC I should pick up for Rome 2?

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Anyone know what this is from?
It's not a skill or item from what I could tell

>>147204352
I'll have to test em myself later, that guy can be dumb when it comes to testing from what I've seen.

>>147205047
It comes with the dragon

>>147194171
wait wtf??? is this TWW? This looks like fookin real life

>>147204396
Did you forget something there or is that all you want to fill her belly with?

>>147201336
rollan

Im starting a Rome II campaign.

Any tips?

>>147205294
Would be nice if they put mount info on the tooltips. It's quest teleport tier right now.

>>147205424
Use agents a lot,try to only have generals/admirals of your own house and be careful of squalor

So with the patch and new unit have the vc dethroned the empire as the best faction?

So is Brettonia going to get their own special max tax rate that is absolutely absurd?

>>147205421
i just did dwarfs fuck that rerollin

>>147205563
>either high or really high

If they revolt just slaughter them.

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Exactly how lore breaking is it for Orcs to be serving under goblin bosses? Even the in-game encyclopedia says that Black Orcs think goblins are so shitty that they don't even have a right to fight.

>>147205334
Do they eat something else?

>>147205424
1.Uninstall and refund

2.get a better TW game

>>147205047
>Tileans trespassing in your lands

>>147205895
They should have made orc shaman a lord instead of goblin shaman

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He could challenge even Mannfred??!

>>147206502
Backstabbing himself sounds about right for Mannfred

So what's the best counter to hexraiths for other factions besides brettonia and it's grail knight with magic weapons?

>>147205919
Varghulfs aren't really demons are they?

>>147207103
you mean despite all that hair and muscle she was really once a cute girl?

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>>147206553
>>147206502

>>147202429
>They're meant for anti-large engagements
Wow, so Blood Knights aren't really worth it at all? Damn mate

They can beat regular Demis and ALMOST beat halberd demis, so are they really not worth it?

Also thanks man

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>>147206502
>>147206553
>>147207325
>backstabbing yourself

>>147207276
A certain type of cute girl

>>147201336
whoop

>>147207405

Blood Knights have quite poor damage for their cost, except for their anti-large.

They normally beat both varieties of Demi's though only just in the case of Halberds.

However, their low armour-piercing damage means that they are not that effective against tough infantry, which is all that dwarves are. They can against high-tier dwarves by cycle-charging, but it's close and that's not always possible.

They also cost 1700 in multiplayer, which is a whole lot.

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>>147206502

>>147207683
Damn, I am a shit tactician for not knowing other units' stats. Thanks.

I wish Varghulfs and terrorgheists were as dangerous as their cost suggests

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>>147201336
Rollan.

>Agents don't heal if they're taken out of armies

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Archaon came to the wrong neighborhood

>>147201336
Rollin!

For anyone that still plays Shogun 2, are there any mods that give you cheats such as instant recruit and instant research? I know that there are trainers for this, but whenever I'm playing Shogun 2 I've got a MMO running in the background which auto-closes any time I use the trainer.

>>147209907
Looks like a GPU that is exploding

>Too much of a bitch to try out multiplayer because I know I'm shit

How is it?

>>147209907
>>147210887
looks like the last time I tried to play Mafia 2 and the textures started flying off the geometry and the game imploded on itself

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why are ship crews superhuman in DEI

>>147209907
>It's dark around ere, lemme get a light on...
>*lights up Slayer of Kings*
>OH FUCK, SKELETONS!

>>147212274
Battle was taking part on sea.
Means land-units get a penalty.

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>>147213142
no it wasnt dude, it was a siege battle. I fought them with simple infantry line and archer flank


muhreens in DEI literally have more health and way higher stats then even the most elite infantry of any faction, its bizarre

>>147205326
probably because it's the first time tw is running 60

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>>147212274
I seriously hope you're not forgetting the real superhuman pimp ass beast doggs of the Total War series

>>147213603
>Not Rome 1:Elephants or generals

>>147213685
katana heroes are basically grimgor ironhides with superior nippon steel

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Post carpets

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>>147215184

>>147196634
>Its a Dwarf player posts his victory against skellys episode.

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>>147215737
Skellys are a big deal man

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>gaze of nagash
>spirit leech
>gaze of nagash
>spirit leech
>gaze of nagash

>>147199979
Didn't some guy already crack it? Or has some bypass at least.

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>>147216406
UNDEATH FOR ALL

>>147205047
in the defence it was just introduced in this patch
as a way to make

also as a general question how editable is blood in this one, if no one makes a mod I'll see if I can figure out how to make bloodstains be constant and not just a zoomed in thing.

guys i feel kinda bad right now

i hope things are going good for you

empire4lyfe

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>>147215184

>>147216521
I woke up thinking they would have balanced it.

I literally MUST give Franz the big parrot when I face a spooky VC player

I actually get scared when I play against VC

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so it looks like carcass's being thrown get a special unique impact/ blood effect, also doomdivers have special animations for hitting water. who would have known.

>>147199979
>>147216432
>two months
>"already"

>Added 5 new Multiplayer maps: Alpine Ridge, Crossroads, Heorot Ridge, Peak Pass and Blue Reach River.


these aren't in my map list, am i the only one?

>>147217616
Multiplayer only
:^)

>>147217616
nvm found them, they aren't in regular 'battle' mode maps lists so was confusing

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I love watching the fights but it usually gets me killed.

>>147217673
they work just fine as a multiplayer only vs ai though, which essentially is the same thing.

>blood for the blood god shows the empire getting raped
>demigryphs rape everything in game

Is this memeing?

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Is their assembly kit broken? I've been using it the entire time perfectly fine and then since this recent patch it just won't export and the BOB process locks up and has processes hang that can't be ended.

Anyone having this happen to them as well?

>>147216406
>implying Mannfred shouldn't body weak mortals that can't even use magic

>>147219087
Explain what you are talking about

Gobbo posting has made me curious. Are gobbo troops good at all or is it just their shamans that are good?

>>147219087
Works for me, but I've been using the PFM more lately anyway.

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Since some people showed some interest in one of these last night; speak now or forever hold your peace because I ain't changing it once im done.

Yes its not every single monster, this image is already far too large and I cant fit more onto it, I need to reduce its size just so I can upload it on /vg/ (damn this low image size limit)

>>147193234
>He trips and crushes himself at the end

Top
Kek

>>147219850
Nice job dude.

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>>147219479
It won't export the changes to binary with BOB. BOB fails to launch but leaves frozen processes in task manager.

And just for example - I just uninstalled the assembly kit entirely, deleted any remnant files that got left in the game's directory, and reinstalled a completely fresh assembly kit.

Even if I try to export to binary with NO changes whatsoever, it does the exact same thing, it just freezes. So it's no any changes that I've made, it's either my computer randomly not liking BOB or something in BOB is broken

>>147219579
I use PFM for most stuff, but descriptions and the like are easier in the assembly kit because it just automatically creates the text tiles and PFM lists a lot of tabs as "unknown"

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G O B L I N S

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>>147220295
QUIET DOWN YA GIT

>>147213603
Are katana heroes actually a good unit functionally?, a lot if hero units lose 1v1 to normal high teir because of low numbers per unit.

>>147218858
Yes, demi's ain't even top dog now.

Vc are top dogs, blood knights beat demi's plus good units and best heroes.

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Alrighty, done.

>>147220897
Neat, looks like they have a bit of everything

It's a shame the best race (Ogres) are so far off! Would you agree?

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Discuss.

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Is Molay's Magic Mod still the only mandatory one?

>>147221682
Ugly Crown

>>147221297
As long as they have plenty of anti armor they should be good

>>147221810
Maybe like Ungors (Great Weapons)?

Someone should make a mod that replaces all the intro videos of the meme bird man with the faction specific trailers:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vUjtF0YYZ1c
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8T-omKwUOIU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=543IO9fPuks
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HyU_1-Py0dA

>>147221757
Her uglyness makes her cute tho.

>>147221950
Bestigors have two handed axes,and I cant help but imagine Minotaurs will chew things to bits as well.

But there could be subtypes as well, I hope so at least otherwise it would be a bit bland.

>>147222010
>you will never fight for the big K
end me
also were those morions completely cut out of the game? seems like it'd be useful for that southern realms mod.

>>147221457
Dragon ogres are superior, I'm excited for ogres To be added just so I can smash them with the bdoc

Still no GEM graphics mod?

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>>147221457
How can little mortal boi's EVEN compete?

>>147222079
Do they have any unique aspects in tabletop that would translate well to the game? Like being quick movers on average or something. Right now they seem to me as if they'd end up playing somewhere between Chaos and Orcs.

>>147222820
Too bad they are shit in game.

>>147223021
Didn't the regular ogres end up beating the dragon ogres? Even if it was by force of numbers they still won.

>>147223106

Loads of vanguard deployment.

>>147222820
>>147223021
DELET

>>147223106
From what I read they where one of the worst if not worse armies on the tabletop.

I'm guessing in game they'll end up like atilla's celts with guerilla deployment. Although that would kinda be the wood knife - ears thing too.

>>147223106
They have something called Primal Fury on the TB, which could translate into giving every single unit a Berserk trait in game

They are also the kings of ambushes so you can expect all their leaders to give more ambush chance

>>147223106

Well, they ARE a part of Chaos in the lore ...

Vanguard deployment will probably be there + Bray-shamans with unit buffs like Speed and Bloodlust
which basically means that they'll be in your face before you can get a single volley off.

>>147223175
>Drogres
>shit

A unit of dragon ogres can take out a unit of black orcs without losing a single dragon ogre

A shaggoth can 2v1 giants

They are fast, hit hard, and are now resistant to arrows and have been buffed even more.

Also kholek is the single most powerfull thing in the game and Krakanrok the black Is the single most powerfull physical entity In the warhammer fb universe.

Also they won in lore because the dragon ogres were fighting the dragons (back when the dragons were relevant), the old ones, and the obese mongs you mentioned.

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Am I supposed to be taking 50% casualties in Nappy in a battle where Im 3/4ths their size or do I just need to git gud

Also
>select all squares with street signs
>fucking mail boxes

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>>147201336
please no dwarfs

>>147223175
TINY

>>147216705
What's wrong famalamajambam?

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>>147223847
'UMIE

>>147220806
Could you please test how blood knights do against a unit of dragon ogres? I'm in the middle of nowhere and I'm curious.

>>147223727
It was the era of getting shot no matter what you did, so it´s pretty normal that you take casualties. Specially if you´re outnumbered.

We can´t tell you much more without knowing how the map and the army composition was.

In general, numerical advantage is a HUGE thing in this time period. Battles are won by having more guys shooting than the enemy. Spread your lines (one line formations shoot best, two line formations shoot best while not taking fucking forever to turn and they also form a square faster, should enemy cavalry show up for a charge), flank, try to get the first volley (aka wait for them to get in range, standing and shooting is faster than stopping the march, standing and shooting). Terrain elevation is a very big advantage.

The key to win these battles with minimum casualties is to get numeric advantage. You might be outnumbered, but still you can achieve local advantage through maneuvering (ex.: some troops hidden at the border of a forest hold off a bigger number of enemies on open terrain while the bulk of your army takes care of an enemy flank).

That, and proper unit composition, of course. Most of the time you want mostly line infantry, but some cavalry is really important and a couple units of skirmishers (less men = less guns = destroyed by line infantry, but more range = can kite and can hide in forests = can murderize units before anyone knows what´s going on), because their range is just what you need to dislodge enemy units that have taken an advantageous position and will destroy you if you try a direct assault (like at the top of a high and steep hill). Either they leave or they´ll be picked off by the skirmishers without being able to fight back.

Some artillery is also pretty nice, but don´t overdo it. It´s too expensive and vulnerable for quick battles, though it´ll shred the enemy if the battle stalls.

Dwarf females?

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>There are cucks that still play the table top
>people actually spend hundreds of dollars on 10 bucks worth of plastic molds

>>147224887
Only 30% of the people who buy figures play the game

The other 70% are collectors

So if it makes you feel any better the majority of Warhammer owners think the TB is stupid and not worth their time

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>>147224992
That makes me feel a bit better I guess? The models are still overpriced

>>147224835

All dwarfs carry helmets, picks, beards and up to 12 layers of clothing - gender is (more or less) optional.

>>147225128
Female Dwarf Slayers?

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This is now a dragon ogre shitposting thread

>>147224659
A single Blood Knight can beat Suneater and a Dragon Ogre Shaggoth and still have 50% of its HP left over

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>phone posters

>>147225318
Oh, so they just made them stupid op to sell the dlc, and then they will nerf them in the future.

That sucks.

>>147225178

Well, if she's ashamed enough to become a Slayer, having a bright-red iroquois cut will be just a minor nuisance.

>>147225375
They are free you moron, and are the most expensive Cav unit in the game, AND one of the most powerful cav units in the entire lore.

They are also entirely designed around killing Large units.

A single unit of black orcs can kill a Blood Knight unit, if used correctly.

>>147225375
They're free m8, let's only go after CA for the actual bullshit stuff they do.

>>147225375
sell the dlc?
they're free retard

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>>147225362
Boi


Ey boi


U wanna fight?

Is there any greater feeling than watching a group of Dragon-Ogres rip through an enemy line, covered in a tide of their enemies blood?

>>147225485
>>147225458
>>147225437

You didn't have 2 be so mean

I thought they were part of the blood and gore dlc, I mean there name is blood dragons

>>147225554
None, none at all.

seeing kholek smash mortalfags

>>147225643
Dont make baseless accusations

>>147225726
MAYBE*

>>147225643
>expecting people to be nice
>on 4chan

wew lad

>>147225809
>accusing CA / warhammer in general of being money grab

>baseless

They purposefully fuck with table top balance in order to sell new models.

>>147225908
It was an ENTIRELY bassless accusation, dont try to save face now everyone called you out on your ignorance and idiocy.

Day 1 DLC is money grabbing, Blood and Gore is money grabbing, a free fucking unit is not money grabbing.

Fuck off.

>>147226000
>be me
>buy dlc the day it comes out, same day as the update
>the new optional main screen when you buy the blood and gore pack is blood dragons
>blood is in the units name
>have to drive half way across the country the next day, not much time to read about the update or really even explore the dlc

>get yelled at for having the GALL to think that the blood knights were part of the blood and gore pack

>>147226207
>well I didnt know raping was wrong!
Too bad. You're a moron. Your ignorance is not excusable for something as fucking easy as finding out as 'was this unit free or not' when the god damn patch notes say they are free.

Stop trying to save face.

>>147226207
not reading the fucking patch notes
comone lad no excuse.

Anyone find it a bit strange that Blood Knights and vampire and necromancer crumble?

Isnt crumbling supposed to be the magic from the necromancer that summoned the undead weakening, why would BK crumble they are not held together by magic.

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so it only makes sense now blood and gore is out to post some carpets. I found some no morale mod and chose some chaos and got my gamen pc to melt.

I'll post some pics of carpets for reference.
BUT I did find something interesting,

ALL ground bloodsplatters are timed, this makes the carpets look remarkebly odd considering how bloody the dead units are.

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>>147226617
>when the bloods just right


>>147226541
yeah I imagine it was a quick and easy rename fix and its faction specific. because in earlier videos there was a shitstorm when zombies were "tired/wavering"

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>>147226727
just dumping blood and gore.

I found party hard in tw:w too.
this is part 1

>>147226207

is it really too much to ask for you to know your shit before coming on here and bitching?

is this your first time online?

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>>147226925
4chan doesnt want to load the right image today.

>>147223106

They were unique in that they gave Beastmen players extra points to spend as an incentive for them to be played.

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So is the blood DLC any good? Probably going to get it anyway

>>147227165
not worth the full price

>>147227165
yes

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>>147227038
pt 2. party cancelled.


>>147227165
look up a few posts, I'm dumping heaps of picture of some big battle

Imo if you like vampire counts its a must, skeletons and zombie units can fight without arms/heads

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>>147221682

>>147226207
Assumption is the mother of all fuck ups.

>>147227416

Hard to tell just from pictures, how do the death animations work without matched combat? Or did they add matched death animations in?

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>>147227542
It works fine

Look bottom right

>>147227663
>51 fps while zoomed in

what processor?

ok can someone explain to me how battle sites work for vampire counts, im guessing it has to be upwards of 2-3k casualties but does it matter who initiates or if you control the region? i just fought a battle with 8200 deaths where templehof attacked me in their terrirtory trying to get a battle site down before i take the city but nada

>>147227757

Isn't that impressive considering grass and shadows are turned off

>>147227757
Thats on low/medium settings

Im running a 760 and a old shitty i7

>>147227835
you might have to wait a few turns

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This dlc is pretty
Mind blowing
I'll see myself out

>>147205895

Not that much.

Grom the Paunch, perhaps the most successful Greenskin warboss in history, was a goblin.

Though to be fair he was horribly bloated and overgrown from eating troll meat.

The thing is that hordes led by shit like Goblin Great Shaman really ought to be mostly goblins itself, but since this game really doesn't support that as being particularly viable it doesn't work that good.

Does the game seem easier since the patch?

I just beat a VC campaign on normal, i didnt lose any battles and rarely got attacked.

How is very hard? I beat chaos on hard.

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The legion of Rome stand in her defense,bravely marching on towards the call of Mars

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>>147227848
ahh, something I negated to look at, due to only looking at the numbers lol.

>>147227943
still cool anon, I was going to just be confused as my 4690k at 4.5 died in the butt even just zooming in to pic related.

>>147227848
Considering how awful shadows are and how big the performance gain is, seems worth it

>organ guns
>volley guns
Just use canister shot
Stupid fantasyfags

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>>147228276
the army of Makedon stands before the legion,content in their believe to threaten the city
they are misguided in believe that their conquest in the west would be as easy as it was in the easy in the time of the Great Alexander

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>>147228480
the brave soldier stands steadfast,protected by Mars,Minerva and Bellona and bestowed in grace by Jupiter

How does the first Rome: Total War hold up today? I've got three fifty on my steam account and am wondering if I should pick it up or head down to the beg thread to spend it on someone else

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>>147228606
the Makedonians,holding a superiority in cavalry,mistakenly believe that their hippeis riders would be able to smash the veteran Triarii

>>147203785
>>147203915
>>147204230
You need a mod to do that in Shogun 2.

>>147213603
Ha.

Katana Heroes can't even break Long Yari Ashigaru on Pike Wall head-on

>>147229006
>not using a mod that removes meme wall

>>147212274
>>147213470

That's because unlike in Attila, Embarked Land Units in R2 doesn't get Seasickness penalty. This means navy are useless - why create fleets if you can insta-fleet moving an army to the sea. Transports always have bigger numbers than dedicated naval units

To counteract this, DEI made every marines ubermenschen so they can slaughter transported land units even if they're outnumbered 2 to 1.

>>147228819
Well, time I go look them up. Appreciate it, anon.

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>>147220897
Good job but I think you forgot to include a hero: Morghur the skull master (pic related)

Also the bray shaman miniature you used is actually a Lord named Malagor.

Beastmen also have access to giants but I guess everybody knows what a giant is so you didn't feel the need to add one

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>>147192958

What is it with the fucking agents?

Every fucking AI nation sends them at my stuff.

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>>147229054
>not loving oh-so-high-and-mighty noble samurai-mincing wall of sharp-poking-stick-wielding professional peasants

Is it true? Does artillery finally work well in Warhammer? What about magic?

>>147201742
Bog them down with crap like Zomies/skellies then go in with armour piercing weapons and cav charges.

I think you would have done fine just you need more trash/units to bulk our your side

>>147220897
They looks really cool, hopefully CA implement them properly.

The unit roster looks very strong, they could be only faction to have every type of unit. Cav, missile, infantry, monstrous infantry, monsters, flying.

What does the jabberslythe do it looks cool as fuck.

>>147229651
Hexes are the shit. Don't bother with any vortex spells they are worthless

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>>147220897

>Bestigors

This name amuses me.

>>147201336
Roll em up

>>147227950
unfortunately no dice, do you know if it matters if one of the enemy armies is a garrison? Does it have to be between two armies?

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>>147201336
ROLLAN

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chosen the best looking infantry in the game

>>147230254
I prefer Warriors with their capes

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>you get conscripted into the army, news of a greenskin horde coming
>say goodbye to your family
>hang your apron up, you will likely never bake again
>give your son your rolling pin, tell him that you're not forcing him to follow the same route as his father - but he'd like it if he could continue the tradition
>let out a hefty sigh and march out with your friends and family to protect your home
>the first thing you have to fight is a spider that is the size of a house
>every time it even moves, it kills off entire packs of people you used to know since childhood
>By some miracle, you rout them and they vanish over the horizon
>celebrations in the camp
>Karl Franz himself steps into the camp
>"We have reports of an offensive from Sylvania, steel yourselves men. Tomorrow we fight death."
>Celebrations die down
>Wake up
>Be in the vanguard because this armor-clad hammer-wielding ponce said so
>Have to fight an overgrown bat
>It grabs your best friend and makes mush out of him

The life of an empire man is a rough life.

>>147219850
>Gorthor

He's dead since years before KF's corronation

LL will be Khazrak, Malagor and the Brass bull

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I wanna start a vampire campaign, should I install the Conquer everywhere mod or does it fuck up?

In my Empire campaign the Greenskins declared war on me after conquering all orc & dwarf lands and every 5 turns they appear with 10-12 stacks at the vampire lands to raze shit and there's hardly anything I can do about it

This is why I'm considering that mod, so I can cap some of those mountainous dwarf cities and defend myself if the same thing happens this time

>>147230369
being empire is suffering

>>147230369
You'd think so, but under the surface they're all just SMEGMAR, ULRIC, WE DIE FOR THE EMPEROR.

Impossible to feel anything for them.

>>147230907

Well, if you knew that the Gods had actual power - wouldn't you be crying those things out in sheer fright that they might bless you against such unholy odds? I know I would, and I literally do not understand religious belief. Being a sperglord is suffering. Fun to joke about, but at the end of the day, I have to live with it.

>>147230738
You should be more worried about Chaos. Vamps have no good counters

>>147228643
Very solid game. Some things are clunky, specially on the map, but the battles are great.

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>>147230907
>insulting Sigmar

You got something to confess?

>>147231206
What does based karl franz think about this?

Hold me /twg/, I just woke up and had a terrible dream.

In my dream Beastmen were released first, then they announced Top Knotz as a playable fraction and then Skaven after them.

There was no sign of Bretonnia nor, more importantly of Wood Elves.

What a nightmare

Is magic fixed now with the patch? Should I disable my magic buffing mods?

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>block enemy army on the beach
>it marches away through my zone of influence

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>>147231341
Probably just doesn't get involved, never know when a witch hunter will start eyeing you up.

How do I get good?

Was bloodpack a mistake or resounding sucess? ie no lag, and it looks good etc.
Thinking about buying it.

Now that Luminarks can reliably one-shot varghulfs and two-shot giants, are they useful?

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>>147231701

I enjoy it. It makes battles look fucking hilariously over the top. Like Warhammer in general.

Why do I have to buy a fucking blood DLC that should be in the base game ?

>>147231861
everything should be in the base game, amirite :^)

>>147232004
Not him but yes ideally everything should e in the base game. Unfortunately we don't live in such a world.

However I think CA releases bloodpacks to keep the rating down for the basegame which is fin imo

>>147231843
Thanks what about magic? Can you answer>>147231389.

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>>147231843
>That immediate loss of inertia during the charge.

I'v never used Arach spiders in my armies. Is that the normal animation for them, or was that an odd occurrence.

>>147232040
I completely understand and support why they have bloodpacks, but they're way too expensive.