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Welcome to the Legend of Zelda general. Talk about Zelda games old and new, and all discussions related to the entire franchise in its various forms. Share and discuss art, music, news developments, timeline theories, speedrunning strats, etc.

/lozg/ #11 - Hips edition

>I never played a Zelda game, where should I start?
http://zeldadungeon.net/forum/threads/best-zelda-game-for-new-players-to-start-with-a-brief-recommendation-guide.52290/

>List of Zelda games currently available on this gen's consoles
https://www.nintendo.com/games/game-guide?pv=true#/filter/-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|zelda
3DS has the N64 Zelda remakes plus NES, SNES, GBC Virtual Console.
Wii U has the GC Zelda HD ports plus NES, SNES, N64, GBA, Wii and DS Virtual Console.

>The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild Infobin
http://pastebin.com/E8FjmmKD

More Zelda 1? Check Zelda Classic's romhacks:
http://www.zeldaclassic.com/

>News/Developments<

HWL Link's Awakening pack trailer:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N9nGBVhOGWI

Zelda prizes on MyNintendo
>Twilight Princess Picross:
https://my.nintendo.com/rewards/93fc36d80848c6dc
>Link theme for 3DS:
https://my.nintendo.com/rewards/82df9c18e92f49fc
>Wind Waker HD coupon:
https://my.nintendo.com/rewards/5fcf540895787b91
>Bow and arrows for Miitomo:
https://my.nintendo.com/rewards/0254df5cf4af7f7a

TloZ - "Symphony of the Godesses" concert tour
http://zelda-symphony.com/pages/schedule

TloZ Card Game
http://www.gamespot.com/articles/the-legend-of-zelda-trading-cards-listed-online/1100-6439912/

Twilight Princess manga in the west
http://www.nintendolife.com/news/2016/05/the_legend_of_zelda_twilight_princess_manga_is_coming_to_the_west

BotW Link figurine in production:
http://gonintendo.com/stories/260163-medicom-reveals-zelda-breath-of-the-wild-figurine

BotW Known Item Stats:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1r6bbN74Bvbsm7nQ9TYDPhtM-DBXMADweKqKYTuaFG_I/edit?usp=sharing

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Best Princess
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I WANT TO FUCK FAI
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>>147165642
fai for intrepid kamasutra experimentation
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>>147165554
Is this official concept art?
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Eleven threads in a row. That's more than I expected. Congrats, mah bois.
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Official /lozg/ thread creation criteria: retard friendly edition

1. wait for 740 posts and announce you intend to make new thread
2. if you were making a thread already, stop, and let the announcement anon do it
3. copy pasta, and links if applicable, remove [Embed], and backlink previous thread, then sit on it.
4. Post the thread on page 9 then announce in last thread on page 10
5. You're done
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>>147165642
>FAI
Man that ounds retarded after having called her all this time just Fi (phee)

Honestly I'll just continue calling her like that
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>>147165751
No this is.
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>>147165947
delete this
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>>147165554
Those are not hips.
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>>147165876
Post all of these that exist

>>147165930
I know right? Phee is much more sexy sounding. I'm not that guy, also.
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>>147166048
No, but these are.
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Do you guys think that perhaps some of the areas in the Plateau that looked kinda flat and empty will have a town, or perhaps markets in the full game?
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>>147165876
>tfw no ALTTP remake where you can date Zelda in the postgame
why live?
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>>147166238
Seriously though. It would be awesome if Ganon had raped her at some point and cursed her womb to give birth to himself in the future
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>>147166238
THICC
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>>147165642
>>147165930
That pronounced F-eye or Fae? Because the latter could make sense considering lower-right corner of pic related.
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>>147166191
>Post all of these that exist
I'll post the ones I have. ... After the full minute cool down time that /vg/ requires.

Thanks for that, Moot.
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>>147165947
no one could seriously want something that cancerigenous in the game
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>>147166381
Probably. They explictly said they removed towns and stuff purpousely.
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>>147166435
You mean top right and no, just Phee, not Fae or Fai. I mean it's spelled Fi, not Pfi like Pfizer or Fa like Fate or some other bullshit. Tell me how you pronounce Fitness please
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>>147166247
Romance options confirmed?
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>>147166435
F-eye.

http://www.strawpoll.me/10639796
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>>147166390
Goodness, could you even imagine?

This fanbase is already like 80% waifu-fags. Putting in dating sim mechanics would be... I can't even guess what would happen.
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>>147166191
I have this NSFW one http://i.imgur.com/hovqqPc.jpg
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>>147166715
>castellano
>no Español
España por favor
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>>147166715
First official poll
/lohttp://www.strawpoll.me/10639796zg/
/lohttp://www.strawpoll.me/10639796zg/
/lohttp://www.strawpoll.me/10639796zg/
/lohttp://www.strawpoll.me/10639796zg/
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>>147166610
>top right
No, lower right, the fairy design. I call her "Phee" too, for the record.
The kanji apparently clearly read as "F-eye," though. Nothing for debate overseas. So y'know, we're the uphill battle.
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>>147166830
Holy shit. I didn't expect it to go that hardcore. I thought Zelda was aimed at kids and had a primarily kiddo audience

nice
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>>147166889
What the fuck is that URL, anon?
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>>147167025
It's a standard Lorulean internet address? What's the issue?
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>>147167025
shit. i broke it

First official /lozg/ poll

http://www.strawpoll.me/10639796zg/
http://www.strawpoll.me/10639796zg/
http://www.strawpoll.me/10639796zg/
http://www.strawpoll.me/10639796zg/
http://www.strawpoll.me/10639796zg/
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I'm actually really curious about BotW's Zelda. It's fairly obvious that she's that "mysterious" voice with the fetching faux-British accent, but with the kinda post-apocalyptic setting, I'm hoping she's running around as Sheik.

I've always wanted Sheik to be a recurring boss throughout the game, the idea being that Zelda's testing you to see if you got what it takes to save the day.
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>>147166985
>The kanji apparently clearly read as "F-eye,"
ファイ is just how you spell Φ in japanese instead of using the greek letter.

Now of course, in english Φ is pronounced Fai and not Phee, but english is fucking retarded and you pronounce that Phi everywhere else in the world.
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>>147167126
you did it again
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>>147167185
>>147167185

It works fine on 4chan x for some reason. I don't know what that extra zg is for.

http://www.strawpoll.me/10639796
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>>147167369
>I don't know what that extra zg is for
Zelda General.
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>>147166889
>>147167126
God dammit anon.
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Is there gonna be some kind of hunger mechanic where you have to eat or your starve to death?
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>>147167160
I don't want to sound like a troll but I really wonder if they'll go with the "save the woman" thing once again. They already did it in TP and SS.
What if the light in the castle is not Zelda but it's the triforce? What if they pull a Sheik in BotW, as you said, with Zelda being around the world, disguised?
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>>147167369
>Japanese twice
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>>147167589
Tetra looks like she's puking a taco.
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>>147167651
Well. If that voice was Zelda, and that light was her. I don't remember her calling directly for help, as in "save me".
Maybe that implies that any sort of saving will be done on the side, or by accident?
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>>147167651
What if your goal is to vanquish Ganon and save Zelda, you follow trails of hologram Zelda giving you hints towards dungeons her location, you go through all that and she's been dead for 75 years
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>>147167745
There are many Japanese

I did that very fast, and didn't look back. I'm sorry
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Anyone else annoyed that the trend these days in voice acting is to make everyone sound British? Shit is fucking annoying.
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>>147167651
>I really wonder if they'll go with the "save the woman" thing once again.
Ugh. I really hope not. Never mind the politics of it, the whole save the princess thing is just BORING.

Besides, they already said they were going against convention on this one, so it seems unlikely they'd go with the cliche.
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>>147167953
Regal isn't necessarily ""British"", you just think that's what a """"British"""" accent is because of all the other Americans using that fake as fuck accent in other games.
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>>147168050
>Dat 'dorf
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>>147167953
That's because it is meant to sound more exotic to the average USAian player.
Imagine if Zelda walked around talking like a Texan?
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>>147168120
OI U WOT M8
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>>147167918
>spoiler
I'm more than ok with this, actually. It'd be a nice twist.
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>>147168256
>Link falls in love again as he regains his memories and hears Zelda's emotional pleas to him, decades old
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That's all I've got. If you would like to make your own, here's the template. Have fun with that.

>>147167953
That's more a standard fantasy thing. It's absurdly common for fantasy characters, especially elves, to have some weird faux-British accent to make them sound more... I dunno, dignified?
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>>147168202
>Texan

I'm Texan, and I don't have an accent. But still, don't give them accents, just give them normal voices.
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>>147168050
SS Zelda confirmed for best Zelda
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>>147168440
By experience. The normal accent is an accent still. I thought i didn't had one until i heard myself speaking (taped). Yours may be weaker than other, but it's still there, trust me.
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>http://www.strawpoll.me/10639796
>joke options
This is not how a serious poll works.
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>>147168623
It was the first official one, not a serious one.
i'll make it better than. Wait a minute.
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>>147168479
>not ALTTP
have you not seen >>147166830 ?
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>>147167918
>>147168256
>implying being dead would stop her from doing stuff
And now there's robots everywhere, so she's got options.
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>>147168765
>http://i.imgur.com/hovqqPc.jpg
I ask the same of you, just look how damn happy she is about being fucked in the ass and then in the throat
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>>147168424
>That's more a standard fantasy thing

I understand that, but lately it has crossed over to movies and other video games that don't need "British" accents. Like the other day I watched Gods of Egypt with my dad and was put off entirely because I'm pretty sure Egyptians don't speak like that.
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Real poll

http://www.strawpoll.me/10640102
http://www.strawpoll.me/10640102
http://www.strawpoll.me/10640102
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>>147168829
But that's Zelda's soul split from her body, she didn't die.
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Shiek is trans
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>>147169305
>http://www.strawpoll.me/10640102
Now that's more like it.
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>>147169753
>forsaw
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>>147169753
>needing to turn into a dude to become strong
Pfft, scrub.
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>>147170049
I bet you're a girl to be saying shit like that.
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It was my understanding that there would be more titties here. Where are they?
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>>147170274
Actually it was meant to have more hips. But we've been lied to.
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Fi's legs are a miracle of the universe
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>>147170096
>anon is upset because his waifu is a punk bitch that can't fight worth shit
Heh.

Also, ears.
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>>147170598
Fi isn't sexy.
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>>147167953
>>147168120
>>147168202
>>147168424
>>147168876
Gonna rewatch all the voiced stuff to see, but is it possible the "British" accent you guys are all bitching about is actually SAP and as usual people are mistaking it for fake British?
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>>147170921
>SAP
What the fuck is this?
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>>147171057
>What the fuck is this?
A German multinational software corporation that makes enterprise software to manage business operations and customer relations.
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>>147171196
An enzyme produced by the prostate. It may be found in increased amounts in men who have prostate cancer or other diseases.
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>>147171057
Standard American Pronunciation, also known as Standard American English or "General American." It's an American dialect that comes off as very proper and refined and is often mistaken for a British accent by people who don't know better.

My sister's actually the one who'd know more since she studied accents and dialects, so some of that (General American) may not be 100% accurate, sorry.
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>>147170616
Which incarnation of Zelda is HW supposed to be?
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>>147171742
HW Zelda.
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>>147171742
The one from HW.
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>>147171791
>>147171820
I've never even glanced at the game, do they give it its own lore and place in the timeline?
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>>147171518
To me it actually didn't sound British at all.
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You're in charge of BotW's dungeons.

There are to be 5 dungeons total and you have to come up with these categories.

Theme/Aesthetic (ie: Forest/Mansion or Volcano/Mines)
Item Obtained
Types of Puzzles (ie: Light puzzles, water raising/lowering)
Boss (just be generic ie: Dragon, Poe, etc.)

What types of dungeons do you create? I'm curious to see what everyone likes if they want to see a dungeon style or puzzle style again or want something completely new.
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>>147171880
Yes, it seems to take place aeons after Twilight Princess. And the story is about the dangerous pitfalls of waifuing.
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>>147171742
HW Zelda is an incarnation of her own.

Also, ears.
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>>147171880
HW is in it's own autistic timeline
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>>147171943
>There are to be 5 dungeons total
With such a stupidly huge map, 5 dungeons would be a joke no matter what
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>>147168050
>Midna just laughs
It's probably something aweful like handholding
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>>147172004
Plain bland face
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>>147172004
Damn she's hot as hell. Best Zelda?

>>147171973
Sounds like a pretty good game.

>>147172025
Has Nintendo made any statements or given any idea of where it stands compared to other games on the timeline?
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>>147171880
HW's Hyrule doesn't have many of the landmarks of previous games, so they crossover landmarks through time portals (OoT's Death Mountain, Skyloft, etc.). There isn't much lore to HW's Hyrule since the "lore" is more about Lana and Cia.
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HW is not canon

Cia best girl
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>>147171880
Aonuma said it's in it's own timeline since it crosses all the main games. It's just a special spin-off game basically.
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Will we be able to pet dogs in BotW?
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>>147172237
>Has Nintendo made any statements or given any idea of where it stands compared to other games on the timeline?
Here >>147172386
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>>147172028
I just said 5 because I didn't want people to write out stupidly lengthy posts really detailing like 10 dungeons.
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Answer the poll

http://www.strawpoll.me/10640102
http://www.strawpoll.me/10640102
http://www.strawpoll.me/10640102
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>>147172237
>Damn she's hot as hell. Best Zelda?
Considering she personally leads her nation's army to kill that uppity bitch trying to horn in on the piece of man-meat she had already called dibs on, she's kinda the best Zelda by default.
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>>147172416
I hope so.
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>>147172416
Pet the doggo!
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>>147172835
I really can't get around her face
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>>147172835
>That mission where you can't win until Link AND Zelda are downed at the same time because otherwise they keep getting up to fight for each other
That was sweet.
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>>147172835
HW Zelda's pretty nice, yeah
A combination of HW Zelda & SS Zelda as far as looks for would be absolutely perfect
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>>147173239
welp, I fucked up
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>>147171943
Spirits/Ghost Ships
Raft
Rafting between the many ghost ships and having to ease the spirits of the captains
Poe Fleet Captain

Sand/Oasis Desert
Sand Rod
Sand Rod Physics puzzles
Mongolian Death Worm/Twinmold-Moldorm style

Light/Facility
Light Arrow
Light Arrows used to light technology electricity and lights to power the dungeon
Robotic Guardian

Forest/Dense Jungle
Fire Rod
Burning down vines and trees to get through areas
Tree Golem, like the rock one

Time/Great Plateau
Quakos Medallion
Switching back and forth in time between current Great Plateau and when it was in it's prime, using the Quakos Medallion to destroy parts of it to get around
Dark Link

Probably shitty ideas though.
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I wonder if the hookshot/clawshot will be some sort of "Grip Rune" this time...
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>>147173586
Maybe we'll get to actually fly at some point. If we take into account that flying island
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>>147173117
>that reward mission where you have to pick your waifu and kill all the other girls
>Fi is the only viable option for winning at a low level because of her position on the map
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Who is your absolute favourite NPC in the whole series?
For the sake of discussion, let's avoid main characters like companions, Zelda, Ganondorf, Impa and the King. Let's focus on the literally whos of Hyrule.

My favourite is pic related. He's nuts.
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>>147173797
So that knocks out PH Linebeck, Midna, ST Ghost Zelda, and Cia correct?
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>>147173239
>SS Zelda

What would she do to poor young Link?
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>>147173797
I find myself fond Hena.
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>>147173797
Malon
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>>147173994
The exact same thing every Zelda would do to Link if given the opportunity.
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>>147173797
Malon
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>>147173926
They are either companions or main enemies, so yes, excluded.
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>>147174001
She was nice.
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>>147173994
>young Link
HW Zelda reverse rape doujin WHEN
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So HW story is just the guardian of time, which is a hot as fuck browny girl trries to steal someones husbando?
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>>147173797
This guy looks a lot like the running man in OOT. Never really paid attention to the bunnyhood symbol. Nice little touch.
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>>147173761
I dunno how low-level I was, but I chose Zelda since always pick the standard option first and it was pretty easy.
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>>147174928
I couldn't handle getting gangbanged by Impa, Lana and Midna all at once while Zelda just stood there doing jack shit.
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>>147174716
She only becomes brown and bustier when she goes evil, Anon.

For spoilers, this really is pretty much the plot of the game.
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>>147175134
Maybe Zelda didn't love you enough to help?
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>>147171943
Ooh neato. I was just thinking about this Facefag here so.I have this with my autism in mind I just have this one:

Starscape Temple

>Theme
Visually black and neon-blue looking. Think loosely similar to some of the vistas in Metroid Prime 2 Echoes.

The Sheikah are tech savy but not enough to into space. However they can into Magitek enough to implant miniature worlds into books in their great Arcane Library (how the temple would be accessed, maybe even a tiny pre-dungeon)

A book that makes a fictional commentary on the technology of the future is on a sacred pedestal, there because it's the librarian's favorite tome or something, in the back of the Library.
The book would suck you in an Link would be transported to
a literal Temple in space orbiting the planet (a few visual quirks to indicate the fictional nature of the realm). Very "Sheikahpunk" in terms of the various tech strewn about the level.

>Item Obtained
Transposition Mask
Mask/Rune that allows you to jump positions in space but only once set conditions are met. That and/or a special/arrow type. It'd be neat to have more arrows than just fire/ice/light. Maybe Electirc and Dark + others?
Have it be Dark arrow and have it function with Gravity effects to play off of the theme of the dungeon.

>Types of Puzzles
Gravity shenanigan related ones and also some of that autistic "Mask interplay" I talk about in you-know-what http://pastebin.com/aDhkvC1E

>Boss
Some automaton or something, or a fucking Space Witch, i dunno
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>>147175281
She knows that my true love is in Hilda.
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>>147175401
I wish you could dress up the allied NPCs in the outfit you want them to bee in. It'd be pretty cool.
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>>147175401
>She knows that my true love is in Hilda.
Sooner than later we'll be able to emulate 3DS and then I'll see what fuss is about Hilda
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>>147175387
>Space Witch
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>>147175859
She's just Zelda, but far more crisp
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>>147175387
I'd fuck a space witch
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>>147174375
I take it that knocks the Sages out as well then...well fuck...

uhhhh, WW Grandma, she's just a sweet little old grandma, or Anju in MM.
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>>147175871
Not him, but I'd be down for a Space Witch or Space type boss, could be neat.
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Stealth Intrepid Adventuring isn't lewd. Only pure.
Post more Fi for me to steal.
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>>147175387
>>Item Obtained
Those ideas sound more like something out Mario Galaxy, and very unusable outside. I thought we learned that items being useful only in their designated temple is a bad idea
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>>147175387
That space thingy there is only doable (if it really is in space, that is) if the world of zelda is actually something floating i nothing. I mean there is a moon and all, but that doesn't convert into a ball floating in space. Maybe the world is something like early Arda. Apart from the space-y ghosts in MM there isn't nothing that really shows that there is in fact outer space there.
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>>147175859
I hope so, I've had my fun with my 3DS but apart from Pokemon Sun/Moon, I have nothing else I want to play on it. I really want to see an up-rezed OoT3D, it was the first game I bought on my 3DS and it got me a lot more into Zelda (having only beaten Phantom Hourglass and halfway through SS)
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>>147165930
I prefer Fai over Fee, honestly.
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>>147176275
I've got a big one for you
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>>147176249
I'm just amused by the notion of a space witch.

What exactly does a Space Witch do?
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>>147176509
Same
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>>147176535
Cast Meteor
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>>147176535
Spatial/Dimension magic I guess? I was thinking it was kind of like Zant's boss fight.
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Worship Hilda
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>>147176785
It really is a SPACE witch as in spatial, things that took up space, a plot of land. not outer space?
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>>147176308
>Useful only in their designated temple is a bad idea
Agreed, and I was thinking Transposition Mask could be used in conjuction with the earlier obtained song-of-soaring-equivalent. The first for movement to -major hubs and the second for more subtle line of sight teleporting (have it drain the entire magic meter to stop abuse) with a unique puzzle solving application.

Dark Arrows are fine
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>ONLY 6195 HOURS UNTIL BREATH OF THE WILD RELEASES, NO BRAKES ON THIS HYPE TRAIN
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>>147176275
PHAI for intrepid snuggling

>>147176509
That's probably because "fee" means something in English.
It means shit (as in "nothing") in portuguese, and is cute.
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>>147177017
>intrepid snuggling
Acceptable.
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>>147176485
>if it really is in space, that is
I just said it's in a book didn't I?
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>>147175938
Hilda is a shit name though. I imagine some fat old lady. Not morbidly fat. A fat cute german lady with massive breasts.
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>>147168606
Not really. I'm from Texas, moved to New York and people always guessed I was from California. What does a Californian accent sound like? My english teacher even asked me if I had lessons to get rid of my accent when she found out, the Texas accent is pretty much dead in the cities.
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>>147176990
IT HURTS
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>>147177093
Maybe you did. I didn't read everything. I read all of it, but the part of the book actually.
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>>147177137
I like it over Zelda.
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>>147176785
So what, she transports you to various locations during the fight? And if she has such magics, she'd certainly be taking potshots at you while teleport spamming all over the boss arena.

>>147176901
I don't see why it can't be both. Maybe she has spatial magic and lives in an orbital station.
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>>147177227
It's normal i guess. Cities tend to have a closer relationship with other areas due to business and greater exposition to media. I have some accent, but it is not that perceptible, just some keywords.
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>>147176485
>Apart from the space-y ghosts in MM
>>147175387
DUDE have those Flatwoods monster motherfuckers be enemies in that dungeon and have the Boss be the uber Emperor Alien!
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Do you guys think Calamity Ganon will have all the excitement and forms that TP Ganondorf had with all it's excitement? Tennis, Ganon, Horseback, and 1v1?
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>>147177442
That's fucking genius anon, stolen
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>>147177623
Does it have a maximum damage that it can take? I heard something like that. It would be nice if didn't.
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>>147177554
Final duel>Possessed Zelda>Pig Ganon>Shit>Horse fight
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>>147177812
>It would be nice if didn't.
Irrelevant, it's still restricted to the amount of damage applicable in the time limit.
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>>147177812
Not sure about maxium damage but you have a really short span of time in general. I'd say you can hit a boulder a max of 5 or 6 times if you are fast.
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>>147177593
Steal away
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>>147178013
Not exactly. And i said that with the time limit in mind.
I've seen people hitting what looked like the maximum damage and just standing around.
Later you probably can have access to stronger weapons, so you can obviously deal more damage in a shorter time.
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>>147178121
That's just with the melee weapons. There are other damage sources. Does it work with bombs?
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>>147178142
Still irrelevant though.
Regardless of how much energy you can put into it, you can still launch it far beyond what is actually applicable to the game. You don't need more strength as there's already more than enough already available by way of the Iron Hammer.
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>>147173797
Malon or Romani/Cremia
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>>147178346
I still don't see how it is irrelevant.
First, it could be gamebreaking. (does the damage of the object rise?)
Second, there is no limit to fooling around
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>>147178317
I guess using bombs would take even longer, no? Also, so far it works just with the hammer, correct me if I'm wrong.
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The mean cute lady took my fishing lure away.
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>>147178664
Bomb arrows
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>>147178664
That's assuming you would not spam bombs (if it is even possible) before freezing the object.
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>>147173797
Batreaux
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>>147178615
>First, it could be gamebreaking.
I imagine damage would stack to within a threshold for the sake of internally balancing the game to prevent obvious methods of game breaking.

>Second, there is no limit to fooling around
Thankfully.
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>>147178664
The hammer activates the effect.
The you spam high damage sources.
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>>147178821
fuck "preventing" methods of gamebreaking. I want something for speedruners to sink their teeth into.
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>>147178809
Who the fuck is that
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Any chance that beth grew up cute? Her mother is kinda a bog troll, and her father isn't a looker either. Is this it for Beth? Has she peaked?
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>>147179113
Batreuax, i guess.
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>>147173797
Patrician taste coming through plebs
plebs
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>>147179113
Nintendo's attempt at making the skyloft part of SS interesting.
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>>147179113
That is Batreaux. He is how you keep score of your sidequests.
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>>147173797

Best merchant coming through.
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>>147179173
>Those moans
I'm going to jail
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>>147179173
She has the looks of someone who would grow up to be a legendary whore
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>>147173797
She says she's only 18.
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>>147178809
Language Name
Japanese モルセゴ (Morusego)
Spanish Batolo
Latin America Mursego
French Morcego
Canada Morcégo
German Morsego
Italian Morsego

FYI. Literally bat.

Why?
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>>147179391
And a $10 one, as well
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>>147179527
Because he tragically saw his parents shot outside the theater when he was just a lad.
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>>147171518
Are you thinking of the old Hollywood accent? Like how Katharine Hepburn talked? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ziEQlasGhV8 Because "General American" is just how normal people sound in the US. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=72fC2zyGDqU
Either way, both are very different from the cliche fantasy accent that has its claws in everything.
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>>147179113
A Demon/Acheman in SS that's a total bro
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>>147179527
dunno, just liked the look of him, i guess.
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>>147172835
CDi Zelda is better.
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>>147179737
>Normal people
?
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Guys, help me out.
I was looking for Hyrule Warriors's new DLC for Wii U.
I see the Link's Awakening pack for 5 bucks. Then I see a "Hyrule Legends" pack that, as far as I can tell, it is supposed to be the new season pass for 10 bucks.
But then there's also another pack, the "Legendary Characters" one. For 12 bucks. Does this pack includes the season pass or not? Welp.
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>>147179863
Let me rephrase, the average english-speaking person without a specific regional accent.
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>>147175387
>Starscape Temple
FUND IT
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God that bell for my girl Marin, I sure hope nothing bad happens at the end of this journey and the Wind Fish wakes up, nope, nothing bad.
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>>147179863
FUCKING NORMAL FAGS
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>>147180629
>There are normal people on 4chan right this second.
How does this make you feel?
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>>147181409
Deceived and violated.
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>>147173797
Do they count as a unit? You can't really have one without the other.
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>>147180308
Why was the mirror soaked in evil if it was probably made by the goddesses and the Twili aren't actually evil?
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>>147181858
>That shit eating grin
>Gross lil peeking nipples
>Wank arm vs non-wank arm stature
>fucking cow feet
STOMP HIM AND THROW HIM IN THE FURNACE! DEATH TO OPPRESSORS!
#FREEBANE2016
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>>147181858
Is that his stand?
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>>147173797
All these plebs not picking cutest supporting character
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>>147179737
"Old Hollywood accent" was the Transatlantic, which was fabricated for radio because it was designed to be easily understood by both Americans and Brits (hence the name).

General American is basically the variant of a Midwestern accent used by newscasters.
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>>147177669
I don't want to. Why do you want that information?
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>>147181860
Wasn't it made by the Dark Interlopers?
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>>147183446
It was just out of curiosity for people spelling Fi "fee" and not "fight (withtou the "t" sound)"
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>>147183576
It's got the Triforce on it and the interlopers were banished by the goddesses. They didn't leave themselves.
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You know, I always thought MM needed one more mask.
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>>147182529
>You will never see Aryll playing with her big sister Linkle while brother Link is away.
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>>147184035
Is this lewd?
This feels lewd.
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>>147180396
all will be as it should ;_;
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>>147184153
It's not lewd. The lewdness happens when the three are together.
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>>147179938
Pls help
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>>147184242
I'm listening.
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>>147183964
And what will that mask do? Make you a horse? We already have the bunnyhood mask and the goron mask.
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>>147183730
I'm American but I pronounce it Fee. But I also know ancient Greek.

>>147183789
Been a while since I played TP, but I'm pretty sure the Interlopers built the Mirror to banish their enemies, and then they got sent through it because cruel irony is a classic storytelling technique.
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>>147184320
You see... When Link gets home after some intrepid adventuring with Fi. He's all dirty with chu chu slime.
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>>147184375
>but I'm pretty sure the Interlopers built the Mirror to banish their enemies
Just like Aghanim banished the sage maidens to the shadow world.
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>>147184279
Legends character pack doesn't include the season pass.
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>>147184195
She lives on HW at least.
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>>147184428
>chu chu slime

White?
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>>147183964
I'm stealing this
ONLY 37.1 THOUSAND MINUTES UNTIL BREATH OF THE WILD
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>>147184153
It's mostly about hair braiding and nail polish.
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>>147184689
I guess I have to buy both then. Thank you.
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>>147184710
This will be the OP image after we all realize how bad BotW has failed and we ditch Zelda forever. RIP /lozg/ it was a good ride
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>>147184773
Whoops, put a decimal in there, my mistake, it's actually 371 thousand minutes, how silly of me
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>>147184992
it gets really confusing when you change minutes for seconds. i'm in a lazy phase now.
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>>147184827
Not in my mind it isn't.
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Sleep tight, bros.
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Good night. Let's go on an adventure tomorrow.
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>>147184918
Nah I think BotW will be a fun game, not without it's flaws of course, but a fun game.
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>>147185276
>fun
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>>147184428
>>147184771
This amuses me.
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>>147185181
Sleep again? Jesus man, you've been asleep for 100 years and you want to sleep some more?
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>>147185361
fun
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>>147184771
Whichever you prefer.
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>>147185276
Sounds like a Zelda game to me then.
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>>147185876
You sicken me.
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>>147186087
Pretty much.
>>147186118
Pic related
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>>147175387
>It'd be neat to have more arrows than just fire/ice/light. Maybe Electirc and Dark + others?
ITT: we come up with as many arrow types as we possibly can. Include stuff like Bomb-arrows too.
Fire, Ice, Light, Dark, Thunder, Wind, Bomb,...
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>>147187237
Rupee.
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>>147187237
Fire, Ice, Light, Silver, Bomb, Shadow, Spirit, Water, Forest, Earth, Gold, Platinum, Tin, Copper, Technology, Warp, Time, Death, Life, Curse, Poison, God, Demon, and Crossbow Bolts of all of those.

There ya go.
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>>147187665
>technology arrow
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>>147187237
How about timefuckery arrows?
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>>147188018
It's already there
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>>147187665
>no exploding
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Copypasting this from the last thread because I'm a fag.
Explain the presence of Koroks in in another timeline without:
>timefuckery
>Naming a flood that never happened in a game
>Theories that don't involve their evolution from kokiri caused by reasons that aren't an ocean flooding
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>>147188018
yeah why not, we already got a timefuckery sword and ocarina
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>>147188595
Timef-
I got nothing
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>>147188595
Oh this is simple. I'll tell you when the game comes out.
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>You will never sink your bait into her flawless wet fishing hole.
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>>147188776
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>>147189072
She ugly af tho
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>>147189170
You're cruisin' for a Groosin'
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>>147187665
You forgot Electric arrows
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>>147187237
Sand Arrow, it increases traction on slippery surfaces.
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>>147189236
Nah, she a QT, especially considering how wonk most other females in TP ended up looking.
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>>147187637
Rupee Arrows of all the different rupees could work. You just snap off the arrowhead a replace it with one of your rupees. There could even be a selector in game on which rupee you want.
Use them for puzzles you pay money to complete.
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>>147189072
>tfw she looks like one of my old teachers

Do any characters in this series remind you of anyone, personally or not?
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>>147189317
I forgot to say how it would work, it would be fired upwards like a Mortar and saturate a targeted area. You could, I imagine, use it in conjunction with wind to blind enemies.
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>>147187237
>Wind
That would take away from a possible wind item though
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>>147187237
Gale arrows. Work like the Gale Boomerang and are just as disappointing an addition
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>>147189072
On especially hot sweaty days, she probably wears the waders without anything underneath.
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>>147190909
Where are the drawfags?
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>>147165247
>Hips edition
We know what those are for
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>>147188595
They're cursed.

I don't see why you won't accept your third statement as a plausible answer when it's clear they're shapeshifters. They were the Kikwi in SS and there are even theories about them being the monkeys in TP.
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>>147190909
She can keep the hat on, keep it classy. But seriously though my dick can't handle it.
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>>147191060
I'm not even going to expand this monstrosity
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>>147188595
>>>Theories that don't involve their evolution from kokiri caused by reasons that aren't an ocean flooding
But it can happen.
>Aonuma: We created the Rito as the evolved form of the Zora that appeared in "Ocarina of Time" and the Korogs as what the Kokiri became once they left the forest. They appear different, but they have inherited their blood.
http://forums.legendsalliance.com/topic/14202-translation-of-japanese-game-texts/page-48?p=444763#entry444763
All that's required is them leaving the forest, the flood was just a driving agent towards this, there could be some other disaster that causes them to leave. The guy that keeps pushing the downfall timeline is obnoxious but nothing is certain yet and it's entirely possible that people's "evidence" will be retconned anyway, it wouldn't be the first time.
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>>147191060
LISTEN HERE YOU FUCKER
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>>147191060
Unironically delete this
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>>147191212
He doesn't really say that leaving caused it, only that leaving was at the same time it happened. The cause remains unnamed.
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>>147191060
Shit like this makes me wonder.

Why was she turned into an imp? Could imps be a race in the Zeldaverse if you actually cursed enough people? Seems to work for skull kids and stalfos, and that was also the case for the Shadow beasts in a way.

Better yet this makes me wonder - were all monstrous/demon-like races something else until they were cursed at some point?
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>>147191471
It still leaves (and even suggests) the interpretation that it's caused not by a flood specifically but by some disaster that causes kokiri to flee the forest.
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>>147191619
It doesn't. Correlation is not causation.
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>>147191060
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>>147191080
She probably has a zora style bikini for when she goes spear fishing at the coast, but still wears the hat anyhow.
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>>147165247
Hips, you say?
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>>147189072
Yeah, but her itching issue would be a problem.
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>>147191759
It doesn't deny it either. You're saying that because it's not 100% certain then it's 100% impossible, but that's not how it works. Look at deku tree's line that gets used as evidence for why it must be a flood.
>Once upon a time, long ago, the Koroks took on human forms, but when they came to live on the sea, they took these shapes.
Your same reasoning about Aonuma's quote can apply here, he doesn't say that the ocean caused it, only that they changed at the same time. Either interpretation is possible and neither is certain so you can't say it could only be a flood as opposed to any other disaster.
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>>147187237
After a certain point, you may as well ditch arrows altogether and just bring back the Seed Shooter or some shit. That would be fun as hell.

>reverse image search brings up fairly large Pixiv set with shit like this and Zeldas in hero tunics, among many other things
Neat.
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>>147192420
It doesn't say it caused it, so no reason to assume it did.
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>>147192729
>forgot to attach image
Oh well.
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>>147192420
>>147192761

Realistic answer: Neo-Nintendo are cheap asses and they're reusing old assets. The lore/game explanation will be tacked-in, like them changing their forms to survive in the new world or some shit.
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>>147191928
She has the sewing skills to make it larger at the back but she got used to the fact she grew out of it from a year or so ago so now her ass just eats it up turning it into a 'thong'. But yes hat is always on.
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Would you, like to play?
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>>147192761
Then you might as well throw everything out the window because it doesn't say the flood caused it either by your logic.
>>147192925
I can readily believe this.
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>Opening Oracle of Ages over a decade since I last played it
Oh lawdy take me now
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>>147185124
I keep bouncing from hours to minutes to seconds kind of randomly, might stick to hours
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>>147191212
And that doesn't mean that the Kokiri leaving the forest will turn them specifically into Koroks
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>>147193174
I don't blame the flood, because it doesn't say the flood caused it.
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>>147193573
The game kind of says that Forest Haven caused it. But everything the Deku Tree says is ~implied~.
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>>147193125
I remember the chests being big, but I don't remember her chest being that big.
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>>147192912
Hey, that is REALLY nice.
>>
Twilight Princess spawned a generation of midget fetishists
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>>147193730
They have always lived in the forest, because the Deku Tree is rooted into the ground.
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>>147193805
Her upper body compensated for her lack of legs.
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>>147193879
Maybe it had something to do to the distance they had with Deku? The actual village is a little removed from there.
In WW they are much more closer to it.
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Why is link so cute?
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>>147194108
That is a girl!
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>>147193851
It is, but who lets livestock watch an ice show?
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>>147193573
Then what are you trying to say? That we shouldn't discuss it because nothing is stated for a fact?
>>147193438
It's possible they can turn into something else but I don't believe we've seen them become anything but koroks which makes it the most likely option unless I'm forgetting something. But yes, it's not for sure.
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>>147194102
The loss of houses and change in appearance, are probably directly related to not having to raise a Hylean boy among them any more.
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>>147194257
Their faces, their eyes. They look dead dolls.
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>>147194389
The Kokiri didn't knew Link was Hylian. And Deku in WW never said that it was him that made them take human forms
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>>147193875
Is that so bad?
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>>147194608
Kokiri had to be nonhuman at some point. It's not like the games stated that they were a bunch of Hylian children taken in by the Deku Tree, either.
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>>147165578
Is it bad that I kinda wish Link had a beret like that instead of the goofy sock he always wears?
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>>147194776
Yeah. They were at some point. I didn't say they were always. But it is never hinted that it was because of Link that they were in human form.
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>>147194834
>instead of the goofy sock he always wears?
Your opinion is wrong, his hat is fine.
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>>147194108
Cute! CUTE!
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>>147194834
No. It is perfectly reasonable.

>>147194884
were always human*
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WE MUST GO PLUMPER
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>>147194884
Well it's the only competent explanation that we have so far.
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>>147194608
The Deku Tree knew. The Kokiri do what the Deku Tree tells them to. The green tunic of the hero clearly predates OOT by a wide margin, so they didn't invent the look. The simplest answer is that they are Koroks by default, and will appear so whenever they have no special reason to appear otherwise.
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>>147195260
>>147194108
>>147191060

>disgusting waifushit already

I should've known better, this is /vg/ after all.
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>>147195440
>waifushit
>>147195260 Literally male
MATE
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>>147195363
And Tingle looks for Fairy Boys all the time wearing green clothes. He is older than Link.

We can just as well assume that Deku made the Kokiri wear the clothes because he wanted to after they took human forms, because they had(?) to be clothed, and he wanted to tribute the Hero as well.
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>>147195578
Might as well be cute waifu (male) since it's trap-twink shit.
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>>147195578
>>147195703
Husbando shit. In any case this fucking Link with hips meme needs to die
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>>147195260
>no bulge
>wide hips

That is a woman
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>>147194389
>>147195263
Nah, Link was gone by Fado's time yet he appears human.
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>>147196026
Good point.
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>>147195592
Ignoring the Tingle backstory from TRR, he had more than a decade before MM to pick up lore about the Kokiri with fairies orbiting them. The pathway to Termina was in most likely in the Lost Woods.
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I just woke up from a dream where they showed off more BotW gameplay and story, and it was set in the Adult Timeline between OoT and WW as the Hero of Time from MM sent there by the Gossip Stones in an effort to correct timeline mistakes, and it his story of his transformation into the Hero's Shade as he got older.

It was a terrible dream.
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>>147196026
Why would the transition be instant? They could have carried on in that form for any length of time until the Deku Sprout was strong enough to change them.
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>>147196252
Better than what is in the HH
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>>147196335
Ninty wouldn't complicate things like that.
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>>147196475
How is that at all complicated? Besides, OOT directly shows the birth of the WW Deku Tree.
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>>147196120
It was a neat thought but kokiri in OoT were based on gnomes ignore that pic related is apparently a fucking elf which is perfectly fitting for a forest spirit so there's no reason to read into their humanoid appearance too much. Someone on staff probably thought "what if the forest spirits were cute trees instead now" and then they got it to fit the story.
>>147196335
Sounds like a stretch to justify a theory that already feels kind of weak.
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>>147196252
This >>147175387 came to me in a dream after playing Metroid Prime 2 again.
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Let me explain the Kokiri to you.

The Kiwki began a divergence evolution, similar to that of the Zora into the River Zora, ultimately two of them being rather different in terms of looks and abilities/attitudes.

Diverging into Trees, Great Deku Tree/Deku Scrubs and Kokiri.

Now if you look at the Skyward Sword Map, you'll notice the Sealed Temple faces South, yet by OoT's time, it faced West. Now if we rotate SS's map to probably align, Lake Floria matches up relatively nicely with Lake Hylia, however the Faron Woods are Hyrule Field.

It's my theory that the Hylians began chopping down the surrounding forest in an attempt to build Castle Town, restore the Sealed Temple into the Temple of Time, and Hyrule Castle, and the Kikwi were forced to retreat to a further woods, becoming the Kokiri. The Great Deku tree transforming them as the Hylians wouldn't destroy children's homes, or so he hoped. Also giving them guardian fairies who knew a vast amount of knowledge in order to protect them.

By the adult timeline, they needed the form of Koroks in order to fly above the great sea's many dangers and reach various other islands, but as a whole, they were relatively free from the threat of the forest being cut down and other races. By the time of the Downfall/Child timelines, the forest has regrown again, and been renamed the Faron Woods of old in the child timeline and the Lost Woods of the Downfall.

It's my belief that this is why they look like children in OoT, and that Koroks are solely dependent on their environment, not specific to the Great Sea. As we see with the Great Plataeu's placement, the desert/wasteland of BotW is partly the Kokiri Forest. Large mountains and chasms exist and Hyrule is in massive decline, the Kokiri needed to spread and rebuild forests and to cross these chasms, a Korok form would come in handy.

Thoughts, or this too much of a stretch?
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>>147196860
>Let me explain the Kokiri to you.
>Thoughts, or this too much of a stretch?
YOU WERE SUPPOSED TO BE EXPLAINING IT
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>>147196860
>The kikwi
Stopped right there. Pure fanfic.
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>>147196978
Yes, that was a poor choice of words on my part.
>>147197026
Is it not implied in SS that one of the Kikwi would become the Great Deku Tree?
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WHY DO THE GORONS NEVER EVOLVE?

ARE THEY JUST LIVING ROCKS AND THAT'S WHY?
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>>147197185
No it isn't implied. Not in the slightest way. None.
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>>147197207
You can't improve perfection.
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>>147197207
Merchants never change.
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>>147197207
They seem to have lost their patron diety long ago. No magical diety means no accelerated evolution.
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>>147197207
Do they need to evolve? Hylians and Gerudo don't evolve either, at least from what we've seen. Just appears to be Kokiri and Zora, and both are explained by environments. The Great Sea in both cases, and the natural sea in another Zora effort, since they appear in the sea in other games, OoA for instance.

Then again you can get into Parella/Zora connections as well if you really wanted.

Who knows, Gorons seem free of not needing to evolve for whatever reason like Hylians and Gerudo.
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Why the fuck is there no Vaati in this thread yet?
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>>147197604
Because Fi never got to hang out with the AI girl of the Picory Blade.
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>>147197207
Theyre not living rocks, but they EAT rocks and they're highly fire resistant.

Also, look at that smile. How could evolution possibly improve on that?
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>>147197207
They don't need to.

>sentient and intelligent
>super strength
>eat fucking rocks, which are plentiful as shit
>might reproduce asexually
>walk through lava like it's nothing
>can survive in extremely hot or cold environments
>hell, they don't even need to breathe if that one Goron trapped in Zora's Domain from TP is proof of anything

They are evolutionary perfection with the exception of watery environments or biospheres.
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>>147197185
It's alluded to that there is some type of connection with Yerbal and the Great Deku Tree, considering how long he's lived and his immediate knowledge, but never implied.
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>>147197747
I bet you the Four Sword's AI is hotter. I bet you she even has four arms
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>>147197809
We've seen them adapt to watery environments anyways in WW.
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>>147197840
No it isn't. Completely different entities, that don't even mention each other.
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>>147197747
>>147197880
But what of Zant's Swords? They've got a Sheikah Symbol at the top of the typical technology lines going through them, as the Twili do possess technology.
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>>147197880
I assume she is Minish size.
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>>147196860
It's a little bit of a stretch, yes, but you get points for creativity. The problem with theories like these is that they're extrapolating off of very little info and need to fill in a lot of the blanks to be coherent, but the end result is that the theory winds up being mostly bits and pieces gathered to create the possibility but very little in the material itself to suggest it. It's not that it seems unlikely, it's just that the source doesn't seem to indicate it much. I think it's nice to dream big and want to apply some creative thinking to this fantasy world, but if these theories are met with hostility then that's why, just a heads up.
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>>147198321
But his sword is strong.
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So this has been posted a few times on /v/ earlier today. What does /lozg/ think of it?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=42&v=FeGXHlwx3bg
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>>147198067
Holographic sword twins? Would they be automatically evil, or is it just an "it's a living" kind of situation?
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>>147198474
It's pretty gorgeous for a fan project. Now they just need to make 3 more hours worth of footage.
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>>147197207
Putting aside whether or not they need to, it would be very difficult for them to evolve.
Because they live so long their generations take that much longer to cycle meaning it takes longer for changes to take effect.
And as >>147197459 said, with no magic to help them change quickly they'd be stuck in roughly the same stage of evolution for thousands of years.
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>>147198474
Lacking.
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>>147198474
It was already posted the last thread. I'm looking forward to it.
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>>147198008
I didn't say they mentioned each other. I said it's alluded that their is a connection, and there is.

Lets look at Yerbal for instance. The Kikwi live for a very long time, Link is the first human he has seen in a very long time, and they solely stay to their forest. Which means that he was likely alive during the days of Demise prior to the Hylians ascent with Skyloft, this is also implied due to his knowledge of the Goddesses and how they used to 'walk among them' in the days of old, largely implications of Hylia.

Now as we've seen with him, he watches over the Forest from the top of the Great Tree, also sharing a Fu-Man Chu stache like the Deku Tree and having vast knowledge of things. Now we later come to find out that the Kikwi are classified as both plant and animal, or at least it's unsure exactly what they are, and this is true for a variety of races. What would you classify the Great Deku Tree as, a plant or an animal? He clearly has some type of intelligence and biological features within him, but he is largely a plant for the most part. He like the Deku Tree knows of the quest for the sacred flames or in OoT's case Link's ultimate quest for the sacred stones.

As we've seen with the Kokiri it is possible to be both plant and animal, Kokiri/Korok, as that's animal->plant. Now the Koroks say they would die without the Great Deku Tree, that their magic would wither if he does, yet they survive for 7 years without one in OoT, and as they themselves say, they both have magic, just the same as the Kikwi do.

Plants within Zelda are an odd bunch, some seem more like mindless animals (Deku Babas for instance, yet others have a clear case of intelligence, Deku Tree, Deku Scrubs, Kokiri/Koroks, Kiwki). This is what we've seen from the Forest creatures. We've seen how weak and cowardly they all truly are.

It's not a stretch to assume that if magic can turn the Kokiri into trees, that magic can do something involving the Kikwi and the GDT/Kokiri.
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>>147187884
Isn't it confirmed?
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>>147198647
Maybe the AI adapts to what the wielder is like and takes on their characteristics, similar to how Majora's Lunar World has adapted parts of the two people that he's majorly come into contact with, Happy Mask Salesman and Skull Kid.

Ghirahim was a Demon King like Demise.
Fi while robotic adapted knowledge and courage from Link, and this is passed down the Master Sword to those in the future who would wield it.
Zant's Swords may adapt parts of Zant and Ganondorf, one sword for power and a calm collected exterior, the other a raving lunatic.
The Four Sword could work like that too, each part ultimately adapting a piece of Link's personality separately, but as a whole with an AI similar to Fi.
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>>147198912
It is a stretch. You're just glueing two different groups together, simply because you didn't see them in the same room together.
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>>147198321
Link has always been a manlet.
Until he reaches adulthood that is, just look at the Hero of Time in Twilight Princess.
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>>147198474
I wish more people depicted how the dreamy and colorful and sometimes funny aspects of MM accentuated the dark atmosphere rather than turning the creepy up to 11. Not to shit on it though, it looks like a very nice effort, just kind of at odds with how I experienced the game.
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2nd fight against the imprisioned.

I think I have to fight the guy 3 times right?

In any case, it'd be easy if when I try landing on his head a cutscene didn't play and by the time it's done I'm way past his head
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>>147199586
I believe it's 3 times yeah.

Speaking of Imprisoned am I the only one that hated it's design, especially as it progressed?
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>>147195942
DON'T RUIN MY GAY FANTASY WITH YOUR LIES
I AM GONNA SUCK THAT DICK AND YOU CANNOT STOP ME
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>>147198321
Maybe he's short or maybe Groose is just that much of a man.
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>>147199673
the scales of it looks fine, so does the design of demise, angrier shin akuma not withstanding

but the rest of it is just...blobby, blobs are not intimidating, if it had more angular designs, or a more pronounced shape, or if it just wasn't a TIMED fight it would have been a lot more enjoyable
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>>147199673
The toes were stupid beyond all measure. The rest was okay.
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>>147199586
I don't see why people whine so much about the imprisoned, considering all the different ways you can defeat him.
You don't even need to use the groosenator to do it, you can just use the air thingy to fly above his head
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>>147199926
>attack these to knock it down
>HAVE FUN DODGING THOSE SHOCKWAVES
>DID I MENTION YOU HAVE LIMITED TIME TO DO THIS BEFORE YOU LOSE BY DEFAULT?
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>>147200053
Actually, I can understand why they complain about the imprisoned, but I have no idea why people think that Ghirahim is a bad boss. You fight him more than once, it's a recurring rival fight, I thought people liked those? I did.
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>>147199723
Groose is a great character, what he says before link goes back in time was great
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>>147200206
He was hilarious but I hated his fight mechanics
Worst part of the motion controls
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Also some of this stuff looks so similar to what we've seen of Sheika tech in BotW
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>>147199723
Link is just short. Ganondorf is confirmed to be 7'6", granted the models are made a certain way due to puzzles and to give Ganondorf an imposing nature.

But Link is just short, or at least as we play as him. As we see of the Hero of Time/Hero's Shade, he still has quite a lot of growing to do.
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>>147200632
I doubt the Hero's Shade is actually that size, it's just more or less ghost/magic-fuckery effect to make him look bigger and more imposing. You're in some kind of spirit realm when you meet him, after all.
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>>147199926
Even the arms? That's my biggest complaint of it, the first form is fine, but the toes and the arms...ugh no.
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>>147200452
>He was hilarious
He looks at the player and blows a kiss during the second fight even
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>Link can whistle
Huh. What does it do?
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>>147200756
Oh yeah, the arms are pretty dopey too.
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>>147199881
I was okay with it, the more abstract design was more threatening to me than Demise's cheesy 90s superhero villain look, but then they had to go and add his dumb legs and toes and it turned him into fucking Grimace.
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>>147200954
It lets the local pussy know he is ready to mate.
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>>147200954
in BotW?
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>>147200954
In BoTW, it's used to call Wolf Link. It probably does the same for horses and other mounts as well.
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Been playing TPHD. Those Zora girls. Hot damn.
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>>147200753
Well, I see it as that is the Hero of Time. I mean why would he come back with only one eye if he could use that much magic to change his appearance? It's in all likelihood what he actually was before he died, missing an eye and that tall.

I don't personally see Link only ever being like 5 foot his entire life anyways. I mean if we're to assume Link is 5 foot roughly in relation to Ganondorf, that would make the Hero's Shade around 6'6" or so realistically, that's not farfetched entirely.

I mean also look at what Majora says, "Let me see your real face, not the one behind the mask" and then we get FD/Oni, which is how the Hero of Time sees himself, some God/Demon type levels of power and an adult, which is ironic considering Zelda sent him back to relive his childhood. If we look at MM from that standpoint of the Hero's Shade instead of Death/Transformation like we have for years, then it makes a lot of sense that Link didn't want to go back, his entire life he wanted to be a hero, hence the prophetic dreams and etching on his treehouse, and it's made him slightly bitter, that as Goht I believe says "Do you friends approve?", which Zelda obviously didn't with him staying an adult.

It could be magic fuckery because that's how he sees himself, a tall badass, but I think he actually grew into that, it wouldn't explain the missing eye considering he's not a corpse, but a shade, and as I said, magic altering would fix his eye too.
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>>147201560
>those Zora girls
fuck me just the memory
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>>147201579
Fierce Deity isn't Link.
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Holy shit the plot went from saving zelda to a war between gods and demons and Zelda sleeping for thousands of years and she was in the temple all along.

What the fuck
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>>147201579
The Shade is like 7 fucking feet though.

I don't think any of the hylians in TP were that tall. Same goes for humans.

It's clearly some sort of magic-fuckery that distorts his size; perhaps that's how the Shade wants to see himself.
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>>147201713
Well yeah.
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>>147201706
It's not, but lets view it from the fact that the entire Lunar scene are the bosses and Majora talking about real faces and masks, that we all wear a mask, and even seems to imply that Link himself is also wearing a mask before we're given a mask that looks like Link, that is on some ungodly level of power.

The name obviously means nothing, as Oni for the seeker in Japanese Hide'n'Seek and FD just changed for the sake of the soccer moms and not wanting to call him Demon Link.

Personally that's how I always viewed the FD mask, not as a completely and utterly separate entity, but what Link feels inside himself to be, not what he may physically be, but his internal interpretation of himself, his 'real mask' if you will.

But that is subjective and just conjecture/theory and everyone is free to believe as they wish.

But my point does still stand that if it was magic, why is the Hero's Shade still missing an eye?
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>>147201810
I mean I knew you forge the master sword, that Zelda is Hylia, that you fight Demise who is the and something else, but I never knew how it all happened and holy shit.
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>>147201775
We would need some actual models to assume all of their heights, which I would like to see personally if someone could compile them.

Some Hylians are that tall, or rather tall for Hylians. Groose, Ilia's Father, the fucking dude from TP Kakariko Village, the Shaman, I forget his name right now, he's stupidly tall, as is Telma for being a woman. I just think it's safe to assume that the Links still have room to grow, maybe not that tall sure, but room to grow.

And yeah, maybe it is magic to alter how he perceives himself like I said, but the eye thing still bothers me, why would you not restore that or alter yourself to be missing an eye?
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>>147201895
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>>147202096
You in awe or something?
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So since we're talking about the Sheikah - here's something that I just realized - but it's almost NEVER brought up in the theorizing community:

Why is there evidence of the Sheikah in Termina? We know that the Happy Mask Salesman brought Majora's Mask from Hyrule, but there is also evidence that the Mask has a history in Termina on account of visual depictions in Ikana Canyon and Stone Tower Temple. The same goes for the Sheikah.

Gossip stones, a Mask of Truth and a Lens of Truth also exists in Termina. This could be the result of parallel dimension fuckery, but I sincerely doubt it when there's clear evidence that Majora's Mask was traveled back and forth between the dimensions, since it's now extremely likely that the Sheikah made it.

Even crazier - anyone think the Sheikah emblem acting as a logo for BoTW hints at something deeper besides the Sheikah making a return/having a strong presence in the game? The emblem is usually a symbol for uncovering the (rather horrifying) truth, do you think we'll learn something crazy in this game, lore-wise? Aonuma seems to hint at such.
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>>147200753
>>147200632
>>147198321
>>147199723
Keep in mind that Link depicted as a youth in just about every game.
In WW I believe his age is explicitly stated to be 10, and in OoT he may be even younger than that before timefuckery as he still doesn't look completely adult 7 years later.
Twilight Princess also shows Link as being on the younger side, although not quite as young as the other 3D games, he's still socializing mostly with the children of his village rather than the adults.

Many men continue growing in height until age 18 and some can even continue growing until 21. It's not unreasonable to think that Link has yet to be depicted as a fully grown adult in 3D (outside of the Hero's Shade).
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>>147202620
Possibly solely due to the Mask of Truth being a Parallel World along with Lorule. Things were just made in Parallel with Hyrule. Now why Holodrum and Labrynna don't supposedly have a Parallel World Countries themselves is a different story.

I think there is more behind the symbol beyond just the Sheikah. A very similar symbol is seen on the Timeshift Stones, and it's rather spread out. The Twili have it without the Teardrop and with the Teardrop, sometimes it's depicted with 0-3 eyelashes, and sometimes it's in places where it can't possibly exist, there is a very similar symbol in New Hyrule for instance.

I think somewhere along the lines, something heavily drastic happened.

As we know of Majora, the Dark Tribe sealed it away before they were destroyed (it's vanished in the english translation). Perhaps it found it's way to Termina in that instance somehow. It's possible the Interlopers couldn't control the power like the Fused Shadows and both were ultimately broken or sealed and lost in the meantime, and the Interlopers "destroyed" or at least though to be.
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>>147202756
Wasn't link like 10 and 17 in Oot?
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>>147194761
I want more Midna. Post best Zelda girl.
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>>147202756
>In WW I believe his age is explicitly stated to be 10
Wrong, he reached adult age in Wind Waker. Considering the artstyle and that Zelda is loosely a medieval setting, I'd imagine he is around 13-16
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>>147203015
JFC fine, faggot.
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>>147202756
Well he should be 17 in OoT, TP, SS, and you don't stop growing until you're 21, hell some of your bones such as your hips don't full cement and form until you're 24-25.
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>>147202620
Too many possibilities to really pin down the truth, and not enough hard evidence. The only real evidence of cultural exchange, the the Ballad of the Windfish. Beyond that we are left with the assumption that the two universes simply had parallel development, as seen by the blanket of similarities that OOT had with MM and TRR.
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>>147202985
From what I remember, he was supposed to be 9 as a kid and 16 as adult, but they later changed it to 10 or 11, I can't remember.
If only we had a decent wiki that keeps track of this stuff.
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>>147203089
Originally, it was 12 years of age. You would know if you were around when the game was released.

Meanwhile, OoT Link was originally 10/17. Both were retconned though.
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>>147202985
>>147202756
>>147203089
Young Link is 9 years old and Adult Link is 16 according to an Iwata Ask, so if WW Link recieves the hero's clothes at the same age of the hero of legend then he's 9 as well. In one of the smash bros games though, his age is described as 12.
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>>147203089
All we know is WW Link was the same age as OoT Link, so either 10 or 17.
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Does anyone think that the Dark Interlopers were actually a faction of Gerudo and Sheikah that went against the royal family? I mean it adds up. You see snake like symbolism all over the Twilight Realm, and their artifacts, and the Twili all seem to have red eyes. It's been so long since I've read up on Zelda lore, so due to when the interloper war took place, the Sheikah probably didn't exist prominently then. Hell, even in Skyward Sword, the first game in the timeline, you barely see any traces of the Sheikah at all.

Just where the hell did they all go? I still like the think the Twili are what happened to the Sheikah.
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>>147202185
Could be a Matrix type deal where it's not "how you want to be" it's "how you see yourself".
It's pretty hard to not see yourself as missing an eye when it's physically not there, but his height may be metaphorical or he possibly just thought of himself as literally larger than he actually was (possibly due to his inflated ego).

>>147203089
My bad but either way plenty of room to grow.

>>147203170
He doesn't really strike me as 17 in TP but it's possible. But again it may not even be literal. Hell it could just be artistic, even Hyrule Historia says the Legend of Zelda games are just that: Legends. He may have just been taller for dramatic effect.

>>147203282
IIRC the thing about receiving the Hero's clothes is a coming of age thing on Link's island and only loosely related to the actual hero. I could be wrong though, I've already been wrong about one thing.
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>>147203282
Smash bros descriptions should just be ignored, they even state that Redeads are just ganondorf magic. It's just Sakurai's fanfiction.
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>>147203435
I think a lot of people believe it since there's so much evidence for it.
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After retcons and such these are the ages of each Link.

LoZ/AoL: 16 in AoL
ALttP/OoA/OoS/LA: 17 in LA, Zelda is 16 in ALttP, so Link likely was too.
OoT: 9, 16
MM: 10
WW/PH: 12
MC: ???
FS: ???
FSA: ???
TP: 17
SS: 17
ALBW/TH: 12
ST: ???
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>>147203435
There are hints about the Sheikah being involved, but there isn't a lot of information about the Sheikah to begin with.
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>>147202341
I didn't think it could go this deep, so kinda
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>>147203716
Anyone got a webm of the Gate of Time activating?
It's cool
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>>147203716
>Skyward Sword's plot
>deep

lol
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>replaying TP
>Midna moans whenever you dash
How did I forget this?
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>>147203507
>IIRC the thing about receiving the Hero's clothes is a coming of age thing on Link's island and only loosely related to the actual hero
This is true; it's the most commonly used explanation for why WW Link's ages don't match up anywhere. It's also possible that OOT Link's true ages were lost to time and people just guessed.

>>147203679
Isn't TP Link's age 16? I looked up an interview, but I don't know how dated it is.
>Nintendo Dream: His face also changes when he opens a treasure chest, depending on the item inside (laughs). By the way, in this game Link's 16 years old, right?
>Aonuma: Being 16 years old is right before turning into an adult. The TV ad of the disc system game Adventure of Link said, "16 years [I have no idea of the context, so that’s just my guess]," so now Link’s 16 years old (laughs)."
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>>147203875
Because you didn't think of it as a moan when you first played the game 10 years ago
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>>147203875
I can moan too anon...

>you'll never get a TP sequel where he repairs the mirror just to see Midna one last time and she tries to get a piggyback ride for old time's sake and starts teasing him in her adult form

It hurts ;_;
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>>147203875
>Forgetting about her cute little moan and jump animation when you dash.
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>>147203978
It's been retconned. Since they retconned OoT Link's age, it hit TP Link too since he's supposed to be the oldest Link at the time.

Honestly Aonuma just probably forgets half the time and makes up numbers.

A lot easier to just assume every Link is either 10 or 17.
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>>147203435
>Interlopers=Sheikah
I thought this the moment I saw the cutscene
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>there are 134 figurines.
>it takes a day to complete the figure.
>theoretically speaking, Link could've voyaged during those 134 days of making figurines as he saved the sea.
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>>147204048
Why live? ;-;
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>>147204258
Same. Definitely seemed to be hinting towards that. Maybe not the entirety of the Sheikah, but enough that the Royal Family was more skeptical of the rest of them afterward. Hence Impaz living in exile in Old Kakariko.
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>>147203435
>>147204258
I'm lazy and haven't fixed the bottom part yet, but it's good enough for now. I'll get around to it later and post the last half proper.
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>>147201979
The oni-gokko pun is intentional but Fierce Diety's mask being the Oni mask in Japanese is a misunderstanding that gets spread around a lot, the actual Japanese name is "Kishin" (鬼神). 鬼 by itself does mean oni but when you put two kanji together it creates a different meaning and the 鬼 part becomes more akin to "fierce" or "relentless". 鬼神 is a real term in Shingon Buddhism but for an audience that will probably not be familiar with that, Fierce Diety is a pretty good translation actually.
And Link being bitter about not being thought of as a hero would mean he learned nothing from MM, I can believe it but it's disappointing. I'm just going to pretend that he was remorseful about not passing on his super sweet secret moves to the next generation instead, like how the text in-game made it seem.
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>>147204448
Nice
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>>147202258
Vaati is older than Ganon by a long shot and was only sealed in the Four Sword, not dead. He is Demise, not Ganon.
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>>147202620
I think the "Tribe that made Majoras Mask for their ancient hexing rituals" are the Sheikah actually.
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>>147204376
Precisely. Why live when all your friends are dead. Your companion is gone, the childhood friend is gone, the royal queen is gone, the goron and zora are gone, the horse is gone, everything is gone.

It's all gone, why live.
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>>147204460
I've never thought of it was being bitter about not being considered a hero, more upset about not getting to be the hero, and like you said, pass on his sick moves.

>>147204576
Drop the name.
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>>147204590
>inb4 that theory of the Sheikah creating Termina as a warp space like twili warps and that it was a testing playground for shadow magic with a bunch of random ass people
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>>147204586
Forgot pic
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>>147204448
Looking at those bottom pictures, it's pretty striking how much the blue patterns matches up with the color scheme of the shrines in BotW.
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>>147204586
Neither of them are Demise. No one is Demise except Demise. He isn't reincarnated the way the Hero is; he just cursed the Hero's spirit and Zelda's descendants to always have someone around to fuck with them.

>>147204590
>implying Majora's Mask and the Fused Shadow aren't the same
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>>147204586
Vaati is Ghirahim.
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>>147204894
I could live with that, actually.
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>>147204576
Thanks.
>>147204816
Yeah sorry about the words being cut off, I meant to fix it last night but got distracted. Not sure why that happened.

Those patterns also match up on technology such as Gohdan (I don't know if that was part of what was cut off, I forget), and a variety of other random things. It matches up on the Guardians outside the Master Sword in TP too, and there is a Sheikah like symbol in the City in the Sky on the doors too, quite a lot of them actually. Madam Fortuneteller has one on her forehead and stuff.

I'll look for them all in my folders later when I fix that. I think it's a pretty safe assumption that the Twili were once the Sheikah, or at least a faction of them.
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So you think there will be a lore explanation as to why BoTW Link can occasionally stop and slow time when he's in combat?

He can enter a bullet time mode when he's charging an arrow in mid-air and can slow down time when he successfully times his sword attacks just before an enemy hits him. No other Link has been able to do this. Is he doing it or is the Sheikah slate doing it?
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>>147205039
He's quick, that'll be the only explanation for it.

But really it's just one of those gameplay things that doesn't really need an explanation.
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>>147205039
If this is old Link reborn, than he simply has the skills.
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>>147205039
Pure adrenaline.
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>>147204460
This. I hate when weebs call him "Oni Link."
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>>147204854
Yeah because Fused shadow ais Twili and Twili aren't Sheikah
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>>147205172
>Wow, he's fast!
>Wait, it's not his speed. He must be using the Sheikah Slate to warp!
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>>147203861
No deep as in your fucking meme way
Deep as in Zelda timeline fuckery
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>>147205545
But they could be.
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>>147205545
It's pretty obvious the Twili have Sheikah connections. Hell the back of the Fused Shadow as the Sheikah eye on it, and the Twili do use Shadow Magic, have red eyes, etc.
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>>147205039
Pretty sure it's an app on the Sheikah slate.
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One potion makes you faster.
And one potion makes you strong.
And the ones that Zelda gave you,
don't do anything at all.
Go ask Link, when he's climbing walls.
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>>147205039
There already is. It's because of one of the runes.

https://youtu.be/JWVdUsQFZYw?t=719

>tfw sitting through Smosh's shitty vid to find the explanation
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>>147205920
>mfw the twist turns out to be basically the same as professor layton and the diabolical box
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Remember this guize? https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=PqdwT2pKYzY
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So let me get this straight.
In all of the 3DS' and Wii U's lifetimes combined, Nintendo somehow managed to release 4 fucking Zelda remakes and not a single original title?
And no, before you even try, A Link Between Worlds and TriForce Heroes do not count, as they're both literally A Link to the Past 3D and Four Swords Adventures 3D.
And whereas the DS and Wii each got TWO (2) mainline Zelda titles, we're only getting a SINGLE new title on a dead console?
What the fuck is wrong with this company. Why is this allowed.
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What if BotW's place in the timeline is nowhere, and it's an entirely new continuity.
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>>147206689
That's not how timefuckery works you fag
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>>147206558
That was one of the stupidest imaginary rants on the internet. Bravo.
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>>147206689
I already predicted timeline collision. Which is better than a new continuity.
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>>147206689
I will laugh my ass off if they don't explain where it goes in continuity and don't explain how Ganon got there.
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>>147206689
That's my second guess as well honestly. If it's a timeline convergence, then I expect it to become its own timeline in the long run.
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>>147206558
>A Link Between Worlds
>literally A Link to the Past
No
Go fuck yourself
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At least I can get laid in my dreams right?
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>>147206980
Really, now that they've released the timeline, they can go back to what they were doing before and just release games without saying anything too specific about where it fits in the timeline. All the while they'll tease about having a secret timeline at Nintendo HQ, only now it's not a secret.

Then when they release a follow-up to Hyrule Historia they can just figure it all out then.
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>>147206980
What if this was a new type of Ganon?
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>>147208135
Well yeah
It's calamity
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>>147208664
what does calamity stand for in this case anyways
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>>147208135
Female?
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>>147209010
In older games, it was a mindless monster after a botched resurrection. Of course it's just as easy to assume that BotW simply considers Ganon to have been a calamity upon Hyrule.
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>>147209010
>>147209010
Just that
calamity
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>>147173410
>No (You)s for this post
Underated. Your Light/Facility is similar to my "Starscape Temple" >>147175387
That Multi-Poe Ship sounds fucking cool too
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>>147209210
>Of course it's just as easy to assume that BotW simply considers Ganon to have been a calamity upon Hyrule.

But if that were the case they would call him "Ganon the calamity", but they talk about him as if he was a thing.
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>>147209391
People are known to name things for what they are.
In this case, he was a horrible calamity, so they attribute it to him as a proper name.
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>>147209391
More poetic the other way.
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What is the popular opinion on where BotW lies in the timeline based on what we know about the open world and this new Ganon they call "Calamity"?
i personally think that it either comes directly before the Great Flood or 100 years after WW(because unsealed, angry Ganondorf might equal Calanity Ganon)
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>>147209681
An easy guess would be after TP by a century. The other lines are basically full. TPHD just released with amiibo game link. BotW Link looks like TP Link. Ganon has the appearance of a resurrected form.
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>>147209681
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>>147209681
The most popular opinion, from what I've seen here and on other sites, is post WW after the Great Flood. However, there's evidence for all sides of the argument that prevents a consensus until the game comes out.
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>>147175401
HW Zelda has an alternate costume that is basically Hilda.
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>>147210019
KOROKS
SEA SALT ON A PLATEAU
Why is this so hard to get?
There is no timeline fuckery going on here this time.
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>>147211258
>still banking on the damn salt
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>>147211258
>salt deposits on land

You can literally find sea salt in any fucking place in the world.
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>>147211258
You have a theory based on a theory based on another theory based on speculation.
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>>147211473
it's not the fact that there's salt, it's the fact that it says "salt from an ancient sea"
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>>147211649
>an ancient sea
That is far more vague than you're making it out to be.
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>>147181858
Is the big guy turning his head or just not wearing his mask properly?
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>>147211649
The desert was once a sea, as shown in SS.
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>>147211610
How are Koroks fucking speculation?
They can only exist when Kokiri evolved into them as a result of the Goddesses flooding the world
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>>147211258
Hyrule was actually destroyed at the end of WW. It's gone. Nothing remains of the Old World, pulling back the water will just reveal an empty seabed.
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>>147211859
>never played MM
Go and emulate it right the fuck now
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>>147211859
That's the earhole.

It's probably that way so that if something goes wrong he doesn't lose both eyes.
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>>147211926
That's the one example of them we've seen, but there's nothing explicitly preventing them from being only seen under those circumstances. It's a strong indicator for post-WW, but it's not exclusive.
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>>147211926
That's just a theory, based on your personal assumption that they don't exist in other timelines.
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>>147211258
Post WW Hyrule is made of trains. They've already moved on.
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>Playing Oracle of Ages on the 3DS
>Make it past the third dungeon in one sitting
>Hit the power button instead of start
>my last save was at the second dungeon
>Have to go through Thieving Sea lizard Island's shit all over again on top of redoing the dungeon
fuck
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>>147214103
That's why I always make a restore point literally anytime something happens (about every 30 seconds). They called me crazy but we'll see who's laughing in the end, we'll all see.
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>>147185181
>Zelda's sad voice as she begs Link to remember
>That broken up Zelda's Lullaby as this scene plays
>mfw...
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>>147214103
Nothing compared to when your little bother wanted to play your games and then deleted your save file entirely, even if you had 110 stars on SM64 or already in the spirit temple or on the last floor of the time temple from PH

Fuck that dude
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>>147214103
anon, don't you know zelda's #1 rule? save everytime you open your menu
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Have we ever seen Dodongo Snakes again in a game, especially a 3D one? Would you even want to see them again?

Personally I wouldn't, they're fucking annoying.
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>>147216159
If you're going to emulate a game at least keep the aspect ratio you fuck
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>>147216298
Wasn't aware there was a problem with full-screening the game, but ok.
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>>147216298
fuck off autist
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>>147214498
You know...

What the fuck has Zelda been doing for 100 years? Why is she still alive?

Better yet, if the Old Man is the King, why is he still alive?
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>>147216752
>stretching a 4:3 game to 16:9 is ok
Jesus fuck
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>>147216808
She might just be old, isn't whats his face still alive after 100 years in ST?

Old Man likely just uses magic of some type to stay alive.
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>>147216808
timeywimey
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>>147216808
it's wouldn't be the first time zelda has put herself in a time stasis like in SS or even in something like Link's chamber in Botw.
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>>147217265
Oh
All of the amber in the woods is from her isn't it
Shit
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>>147216808
1) We make it to the castle and meet wrinkly old Zelda.
2) She was dead all along and her spirit is trying to communicate to you from beyond the grave in order to fulfill her dying wish. But who was phone?
>>147217265
I hope not, that would be boring. I've had enough of waifus give me cool granny Zelda now.
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>>147217389
Phone was Navi
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>>147217389
>give me cool granny Zelda now.
As much as you want that, we're in the golden age of waifus

You can bet your ass there'll be plenty of interesting girls in the towns.

There'll be a genki girl who just starts talking to you out of nowhere.
There'll be one who acts cold but cares about others
There'll be one that acts tough and tsun, but by the end of her quest she starts changing and gets closer to you the more you come to her town

if they add dating mechanics this game will be fucking perfect
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i love wolf link
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>>147217389
This would actually be a neat idea.

Or maybe she's in one of those crystal barrier things that the Sheikah are in, and one you finally break her free from it, she perishes in the same way?

Would explain why they look so fucking old and zombie-like.
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>>147217779
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http://imgur.com/a/6vrkB
obligatory NSFW lewds
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>>147217763
Don't get your hopes up for towns, they will be there but Aonuma said the setting is a world in ruins and being overrun by nature, it's probably going to be very small settlements barely clinging to life.
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>>147218283
Thank you, anon.
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>>147218283
>http://imgur.com/a/6vrkB
There's 10 pictures in there that aren't shit.

try again
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>>147218563
don't thank me, thank the uploader and thank google and my amazing google searching skills.
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>>147217779
I can't wait to adventure with dog
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>>147218283
>it's almost all shit
What purpose
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>>147218283
>>147218660
>>147218694
That was bad, yeah

At least it had the sexiest picture in it which will probably always be the one where Link's kneeling in bed with Midna's legs wrapped around his waist as they're fucking.
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>>147218956
You mean the one with midna leaking all over the place with wolf link sleeping next to her right?
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>>147218956
Link it?
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>>147219220
No, because that one doesn't have her with her dark marks

And it's shit because bestiality.

>>147219297
http://i.imgur.com/TdmM8UK.png
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>>147218283
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>>147203861
Don't be a dick, anon, people are allowed to enjoy media
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>>147219369
thanks man
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so anybody wanna play some tri force heroes
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Midnas are quick to display lewdness
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>>147208135
I don't see why it wouldn't be.

The title "calamity" gives me the impression that this Ganon has the collective power of all Ganons or villains throughout the series or something. The multiple form confirmation might have something to do with this.

That or it's the curse's essence in its purest and most destructive form.
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>>147209681
The most popular theories are:

>post downfall timeline, right after OoT
>post adult timeline, before WW
>a convergence timeline catastrophe after OoT

It's been officially confirmed by Aonuma that it takes place directly after OoT though.
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What if BoTW is like a crazy Zelda 1 reimagining without being on some weird timefuckery timeline and explaining why there is no Master Sword and how the Silver Arrows have the power to kill Ganon.
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>>147217779
>>147218690
MOAR WOLF LINK
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>>147221310
Nope, confirmed to have a strong connection to OoT, so likely a distant sequel to it, like WW or TP.
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>>147218435
I said it before, I'll say it again: you will visit towns, but they will be projections from the past. Screencap this.

inb4 timefuckery
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>>147221491
I didn't say it couldn't be that.
But the game's open as hell, the Master Sword looks like shit, there seems to be a huge focus on bows and arrows, Hyrule is in deep shit and you meet an Old Man as the start of the journey.
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>>147221261
Got a source on that Aonuma statement? Would be interesting, I guess.
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>>147221793
Sounds like the ingredients for a downfall timeline game.

So probably between OoT and ALTTP.
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>>147220269
Here ya go
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>>147221914
Anything that prequels LTTP has to include the Imprisoning War. This requires a human Ganondorf breaking into the Sacred Realm with his band of thieves, and then getting sealed inside it by the sages. Calamity Ganon doesn't seem to fit that well by itself. Time will tell if there is more to him.
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>>147221261
Aonuma was wearing a TP shirt and pointed out and said "maybe that means something" and laughed about it. It could take place in between MM/TP too. It'd give credence to the Kokiri's disappearance, ruined Temple of Time, rough location match-ups and how badly Hyrule is fucked up in TP, and Calamity Ganon could be his attempt to escape from the Twilight Realm.

We are missing a King in TP after-all and Zelda was about to be coronated Queen before Zant showed up.
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>>147221907
At a group Q&A with reporters on Sunday, Zelda producer Eiji Aonuma was asked where the game fit into the franchise timeline. Aonuma said he didn’t want to say much about the story at the moment but said he’d stare a hint. He noted that that the t-shirt he was wearing showed the symbol for the Sheikah stones and that it was the same one from The Legend of Zelda Ocarina of Time. (In Breath of the Wild, the reawakened Link uses a high-tech item called the “Sheikah slate”). Aonuma also reminded people that, at the start of this game, Link is told he’s been asleep for 100 years. “He teased: “You can decide what this means.”
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>>147222267
Or they'll just retcon it like they did with the original tale for the Master Sword's creation.
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>>147222267
Isn't that literally Ocarina of Time, though?
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>>147222714
That's why they are unlikely to do it again. The only real difference between OOT and the way the IW is written, is that instead of expressly mentioning Link, it mentions the knights. Naturally you can't show the events inside a game unless Link is around.
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>>147222501
I saw that, I guess I didn't interpret it that literally but I can kind of see it. I wouldn't say it's confirmed though, just that OoT's sheikah will have significance. Sounds like it might be a new timeline if he means it the way you're suggesting though.
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>>147222270
Twilight Princess, The Wind Waker, and Ocarina of Time are a sacred trinity that form Nintendo's strongest storyline to date. They wouldn't violate their greatest masterpiece, much less undermine the series of gaming in general's merit as a storytelling medium by plopping an midquel after OoT like some cheap Hollywood movie. You have to look at the big picture.

There will never, EVER, not with green eggs and ham on a goat in a boat, be a midquel between OoT and either of its two main sequels.
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>>147223269
I took it that it was pretty much a confirmation as it was the Hero of Time, and that only gives us two games for sure, unless he plans on retconning WW, which I doubt, but possible, I don't see us failing though.

Either MM/TP, which is doubtful considering the Hero's Shade, or OoT/ALttP, which there is a bit of a gap between there, and it could explain the Dark World/Sacred Realm stuff.

Who knows though honestly. MM/TP is the only one where the Hero of Time couldn't possibly fail.
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>>147223485
Majora's Mask
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>>147223485
Oh they could, and Aonuma gladly will. Everyone loves the Hero of Time and more of him would never hurt.
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>>147223485
>main sequels

MM is a sidegame. That's why it was code-named Zelda Gaiden. Note, "Gaiden" means side-story.
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>>147223485
>strongest storyline
>save the princess from the bad guy
Yeah, real great story. I still like them as games though.
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>>147223705
DOH! Meant to reply >>147223614

>>147223675
It's unlikely. There's no reason for him to return after Majora's Mask, since Ganondorf isn't around and we KNOW he doesn't play a role in his story other than exposing him because Ganon mocks TP Link and the Master Sword, because he's never seen it before.

His story is resolved. He learned that friends are always in your heart, and you don't have to just keep running away. Yes, he was looking for Navi, but he was also trying to escape. Remember that what Navi symbolized was that he wasn't a grown-up. That's why she left. The events of Majora's Mask taught him that he could find closure and go back to or keep running (by staying in Termina like Tatl suggests).

He returned back to Saria and his other friends and lived a life happily ever after.

The end. Y colorín, colorado, este cuento se ha acabado.
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>>147224102
>Hero of Time lived a happy life
>One of his friends Saria became a Sage and literally lost all identity of herself compared to the Adult Timeline
>Zelda was busy with Royal Family stuff the majority of the time
>He never met Darunia and Ruto in the Child Timeline since he was sent back to before getting the Ruby/Sapphire or else Ganondorf would have already had his plan in motion
>His other friends were Malon and Epona
>Epona is a horse and will eventually die
>The rest of the Hylian Knights were full of cowards and weaklings not worthy of his time
>Dies a life full of bitter regret and reckless abandon (lost eye)
>still never even met Navi and at least got to say goodbye

The Hero of Time suffered. All he ever wanted was to be a Hero thanks to his prophetic dreams, to stop getting picked on in the Kokiri Forest, and what does he get for all of it? Nothing, he gets sent back in time with no indication that he actually wanted to and dumped into a world where he's not recognized for his time traveling at all with stopping Ganondorf, he's not recognized for his skills with weapons, and all his friends either no longer exist or die.

His life is pure hell regardless of what he learned in Termina. He grew up eventually and realized the harshness of life.
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>>147171319
honestly hope they add more of a stabbing motion than a slice for that
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NEW THEORY

this is a fourth timeline branching off from Ocarina of Time, instead of going to sleep for 7 years, young ling went to sleep for 100 because Raaru done goofed,

This left Ganondorf free to rampage for decades, leaving impa and sheik/zelda to hide away and uncover/leave behind sheikah tech for link to find and use to stop this calamity, Ganon

The flood still happens as a result of there being no link to save them, albeit in different circumstances, explaining the koroks,

this would essentially make it an alternate adult timeline
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>>147165247
>Twilight Princess, The Wind Waker, and Ocarina of Time are a sacred trinity
Whew lad.
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>>147175387
>It'd be neat to have more arrows than just fire/ice/light. Maybe Electirc and Dark + others?
Actually, I noticed that Topaz's description in BotW said it holds electrical properties. I thought it could be mechanic-based until I saw that Sapphires hold Ice/Cold properties. Crafting elemental goodies gonna be a thing, maybe?
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>>147224376
Saria, and Ruto didn't have to become sages in the child line, because Ganondorf didn't get to make his assault and kill the previous sages. And there is no way that Link is going to leave Ruto in the belly of Jabu Jabu, even if it means saving her all over again. If some of the subtle hints in TP are anything, Link may have married Ruto. And of course he got Epona, which we saw in MM. Horses die, but that shouldn't ruin his life, things die.
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>>147224376
Not canon.
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>>147224592
Possible. The Arrow is mechanically/technologically based, it seems to have some type of unfolding mechanism at least. Well the original arrows we saw.
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>>147224475
see >>147210226

"Birth of a New Timeline."

Proposes that the game takes place in an alternate universe where the goddesses decided not to flood Hyrule and let the events play out.
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>>147224621
If he married anybody it was Malon. Besides the Kokiri are gone in TP, so is Saria, and Ruto is gone too.

It's clear he becomes bitter at some point either way, mostly due to nobody being worthy of his skills, and to some degree not being remembered ultimately. Living a bitter life so much that you continue to exist as a Shade and need the Song of Healing isn't exactly an entirely happy life.
>>147224678
If you mean Hero's Shade being the Hero of Time, then it's as canon as can be.
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>>147221261
>post adult timeline, before WW
>BEFORE WW
special kind of retard u are
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>>147222124
might wanna check those eyeballs in panel 2
fantastic otherwise
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>>147220269
>>147222124
Impa is cute. CUTE!
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>>147224919
It's late where I'm at anon, I obviously mean post-OoT, before WW.
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How about we do this for timeline placement.

>It can't be before OoT
Ganon exists
>It can't be between OoT and WW
No Hero existed
>It can't be between PH and ST
Only 100 years has passed
>It can't be between ALttP and TH
Not enough generations have passed
>I can't be after ST
That negates Daphnes Triforce Wish and Hyrule would still have mountains jutting into the former sea level

This leaves us with these options.

>Between OoT and ALttP (Downfall
>Between TH and LoZ (Downfall)
>After AoL (Downfall)
>Between MM and TP (Child)
>Between TP and FSA (Child)
>After FSA (Child)
>Timeline convergence after AoL, FSA, and ST where time has become destructive and wonky

Now lets look at what we know for sure. The Temple of Time exists, this can knock out a significant amount, which leaves us with.

>Between OoT and ALttP
>Between MM and TP
>Wonky Timeline Convergence

There ya go.
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>>147224919
don't be a dick, anon, it's obvious he just meant post OoT in the adult timeline
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>>147212074
? ehm it just put water on it wheras it had some forcefield before

koroks drained that shit
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>>147224863
TP mentions the Zora continued making clothing for OOT Link, and then presented with an underwater suit from a Zora royal grave-site.

TP makes no mention of Malon or her ranch. baring some indecent, she likely died of old age.

TP says nothing about the Kokiri being gone. If Saria had a natural lifespan, she likely died of old age.

Baring some incident, Ruto probably died of old age.

These are all natural parts of normal lives. Not something that would fill Link with unnatural suffering. In fact, Link's life was made of kicking ass and taking names. As per TP, his only regret was not passing his hidden sword skills on to a new generation.
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>>147224975
Yeah I noticed, it's a simple fix though. I'll get around to it later.
>>147225078
>not Midna

Anon pls...
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>>147225105
no no no no, after wind waker my friend

>>147225194
triforce aint got shit on koroks
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>>147225194
>Between OoT and ALttP (Downfall
Needs a human Ganondorf, acting out the Imprisoning War. Fi would rate this at a 0.27% likelihood.
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>>147201078
http://vocaroo.com/i/s0YaUA4g863Y
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>>147225283
What do you mean, "pls"? Impa a cute.

Plus, BotW has so much Sheikah stuff in it, I'm surprised there isn't a ton of discussion about her.
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>>147225364
>triforce aint got shit on koroks
Koroks are a product of environment and aren't Great Sea specific.
>>147225398
While true, the fact that OoT is the Imprisoning War for ALttP has been retconned as of Hyrule Historia, at least to my immediate knowledge.

If someone corrects me, then so be it, either way that just basically puts the results down even less.
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>>147224863
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6aw7kxvyEEA
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>>147225585
Fixed the pic. Also Midna is cuter, but that's just my opinion.
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>>147223675
Honestly as much as I love the Hero of Time, it's case of too little; too late now. To make another game for him now, after so many years after MM, after the Hero's Shade bullshit and after all of blatant OoT pandering in other games, spinoffs, lore, re-releases and the remake - would be a wasted effort. His story is done. They missed their chance. It's over.

Though I wouldn't mind seeing as the Hero's Shade or something akin to it in both the child and decline timeline branches, or to have some vague timeline or backstory lore dropped for him - another game would cheapen his legacy at this point.

>>147224376
Not to mention there are strong implications that his childhood was shit too. Didn't Hyrule Historia basically state that Link was kind of an ostracized loner in Kokiri, with the only real exception being Saria?

And when he's transported back into his childhood via Zelda, it's back to to the time right before he met Zelda. Meaning that the Deku Tree is still dead at this point, and Mido likely spread the rumor that he killed the Deku Tree to the other Kokiri. That might explain why left Kokiri Forest before MM. He couldn't even call that place his home anymore.

Kind of makes me wonder why he's the only truly tragic Link we've gotten so far. We're really in need of another one, I'm tired of these other Links thereafter living the Disney-lite shonen good life where everything is handed to them on a silver platter with the exception of their companion leaving.
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>>147225754
Not him, but the Twili fucking died in the Adult Timeline. Why would the Gods save a group banished to the Twilight Realm for having tried to usurp the Triforce?
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>>147225621
The Imprisoning War can still happen without Link. It actually never mentions him. What it does require is the initial setup of OOT. That makes it hard to put anything at all between OOT and LTTP. That timeline is basically a filled minefield of old games.

It's not even that BotW couldn't use the same plotline, it's just that it seems very unlikely that Nintendo would clone OOT's story after the criticism they receive over the formula. And then consider the sequel potential of a game that once again prequelled LTTP.
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>>147225931
>Twili fucking died in the Adult Timeline
There is zero reason to assume that.
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>>147224863
>Besides the Kokiri are gone in TP
Wrong, we don't see Kokiri in TP.
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>>147225931
And Termina was eliminated in two of the splits. Your point?
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>>147225856
OoT basically states that man. Everyone makes fun of him for not having a fairy and Mido bullies him constantly.

Saria was his only damn friend. I'm still bummed you don't get to say anything to Mido in the future when he legit feels bad about everything he's done and thinks Link died leaving the forest, it means deep down he believed Link was a Kokiri.
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>>147226031
Back in the day, it was popular to assume that the Kokiri became the monkeys.

>>147226079
Anon they don't even recognize him seven years later. He seems familiar to some of them, but that's about it.

Doesn't sound like they cared very much for him if they can't even form the connection from his adult looks alone.
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>>147226009
Why would that make zero sense? What reason do the Gods have to save an accursed people who can't even deal with the Light World? The very Gods touch hurts them as we saw with Lanayru and Midna.

The Gods flooded Hyrule solely because of Ganon trying to take the Triforce, so lets introduce the Twili again, who may end up doing the same thing. Not all of them are good anon.
>>147226031
Monkeys aren't Kokiri. Historia says they've disappeared and are nowhere to be found.
>>147226067
Just pointing it out.
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>>147225856
The Kokiri didn't blame him for the Deku Tree. The Deku Sprout didn't blame him for the Deku Tree.
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>>147225621
The Hyrule Historia actually aims to retcon so OoT into being the Imprisoning War. It's not canon of course, because Ocarina of Time contradicts this and the only a character designer ever said it was.

Also, he may have gotten confused because the team also came up with an inside nickname for OoT Ganon because they all had colds while they worked on the game, and the popular medicine in Japan had a pig mascot. Even though OoT Ganon isn't a pig, you can see how someone on the team might overhear and think he was ALttP Ganon.
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>>147226193
The Twilight Realm is a different dimension. How did you plan to get water in there?
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>>147226196
Mido did. It's not a stretch to assume that he spread a rumor amongst the Kokiri.
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>>147226170
I always thought of it this way. Mido legit thinks Link as died, so why should he think that Adult Link was him, even if they looked alike, he does comment on it if I recall, but he legit thinks Link was Kokiri and died when he left the forest, it wasn't probably until the New Deku Tree told them they could leave that he understood everything and went to Lon Lon Ranch to celebrate, knowing about Saria and Link.

Mido was an asshole sure, but I don't think he meant anything by it, he's a kid, ya know? I just wish there had been something that was like "I'm Link", even if he was like "Yeah right, he left the forest and probably died."
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>>147226283
It's fan fiction that is contradicted by the Deku Scrub that grew into the new Deku Tree.
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>>147224863
>Besides the Kokiri are gone in TP
Think it has something to do with this?
>Miyamoto: Link is a child of a race of elves called "Kokili." For some reason or another, there are no parents in this race, only many children of the same age. All of a sudden, they grow up until they reach a certain age, when they disappear. The next generation is born just as abruptly. So at some point, Link will disappear.
http://www.ign.com/articles/1997/12/03/the-z-files-2
Although it doesn't make much sense in regards to the game, and even less sense in regards to future games so it probably got retconned.
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>>147225621
reading comprehension. daphnes wish with the triforce to drown hyrule dont mean shit when koroks can drain it anyway
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>>147226270
Fine would it better if I said "died". Because they'll never show up in the adult timeline, ever. The mirror is likely broken and forever locked away under the water.
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>tfw you will never have a cool big sister/mother figure who teaches you to be a ninja
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>>147226403
Why would using "died" be any better when the didn't die at all? They exist as they normally would have. The mirror can only be broken by magic, so it likely rests on the ocean floor. Someone would have to go way out of their way to kill them off.
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>>147225754
What if Nintendo pulls a retcon/red herring and it turns out that it was actually another Link who had taken a similar title?

I mean, OoT Link isn't the only one who experienced or played with time fuckery. Not by any means.

And I completely agree with the pic's claim's about the Shade's personality and how it contradicts OoT Link (or what little we know of him so far through gaming actions at least.) He was pretty fucking selfless and never once gave the impression that he actually gave a shit about honor or glory and the like. Kid just wanted to make friends and do good.
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>>147225856
Let's think a bit about Link's lives after their games

Hero of Winds left his dying grandma and little sister to fuck off on adventures, discovered a new land and most likely became a king.

Hero of Twilight is seen riding away from his village, probably going on other adventures. Inspired pic related to do the same.

Legendary Hero is probably the most accomplished one, defeated Ganon twice and then lived the rest of his life peacefully at Kakariko village, without neglecting his training (Assuming he really is Gramps, which isn't confirmed).

Hylia's chosen Knight probably fucked Zelda and repopulated the surface, also might have become a king. Probably explored the rest of Hyrule and helped build stuff.
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>>147226375
Well I always saw it there is no Deku Tree in TP, and if I recall don't the Koroks say if the Deku Tree is gone, their magic eventually withers with it. Might take some time as evident by the 7 year gap in OoT, but I imagine it will happen eventually. They probably just died out without a Deku Tree.
>>147226376
The amount of trees and time it would take would be insane. They're not all Deku Trees whose roots reach to the surface of Hyrule. Besides as I said before, there would be mountains jutting into the sky where the form sea level was and trees that high too. It still wouldn't explain the Temple of Time, or the fact that someone who qualified to remove the Master Sword would have to remove it from Ganondorf's head and place it somewhere, thus unsealing him immediately.

The only thing that matches up with the adult timeline is the presence of Koroks, and as I've said, they are a product of environment, not timeline specific. Koroks have the ability to fly, this could exist over a number of chasms and gaps that are needed. Look at BotW's map, the Kokiri Forest would be part of the edge of the desert/wasteland in it, likely the Kokiri would need to be able to fly in some respects and to be able to plant trees all around to save that portion of Hyrule.
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>>147225931
>>147226193
>>147226270
The point isn't that the Twilight died or not. Missing the forest for the trees here.

It's that OoT Link being a wolf would violate a common etiquette of storytelling. You never mislead the viewer by placing him in the head of the narrator or backstory, revealing deliberate intent behind something that turns out to be a ruse. The Twili were waiting for a beast. Suppose OoT had played out slightly differently and Ganon had been sucked into the Twilight Realm a few years earlier like he was supposed to, and broken out sooner. Then OoT Link would be the wolf they prophesied. TP Link would have no merit.

>>147226067
Termina was never destroyed in the adult timeline. The Happy Mask Salesman was never knocked out in that timeline because Link befriended Skull Kid. HMS is dancing at the end of Ocarina of Time remember?
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>>147226549
With a plot device like the resurrection chamber, they could almost literally pluck any Link out of the past, just because they wanted his special kind of bad ass. One we know or one we never met.
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>>147226218
>The Hyrule Historia actually aims to retcon so OoT into being the Imprisoning War.
Actually, Ocarina of Time was supposed to be the imprisoning war from the start, Hyrule Historia retconned that by introducing the third timeline, making the original opening of A Link to the past accurate.
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>>147226537
Is the flood not God Magic? And fine, I'll accept that they aren't dead, but they might as well be, we'll never see them in that timeline again. Just the same as the Gerudo might as well be dead barring Ganondorf in Downfall.
>>147226607
I doubt the Hero of Winds married Tetra, only 100 years have passed and ST Link seems to be his descendant (from memory, correct me if I'm wrong) and he doesn't seem to be Royal in any way when he should given that little amount of time.

Hero of Twilight definitely went on an adventure to restore the Twilight Mirror.

I imagine the Hero of Essences is the most accomplished one, dude has the most games.
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>>147226625
Nobody predicted a wolf or beast. Midna saw Link and decided he must be special. She tells you so in the game.
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>>147226625
Hero's Shade was also a ghost, and that form only exists in the realm of light, Midna only saw TP Link turn into a wolf in the realm of twilight.
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>>147226743
I don't think that ST Link is blood related to WW Link, one of the characters in ST is recurring from WW, and he mentions that ST Link looks like his old friend. I imagine he would know if Link was his kid.
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>>147226743
They are alive. Accept it.
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Why do people get so bent out of shape over the Shade being the Hero of Time for anyways? He grew up, people change when they get older, he's no exception to that.
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>>147226874
Nope. And also everyone in Termina is dead in the Adult timeline and Downfall.
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>>147226849
I always took ST Link as being WW Link's grandson, but you're right. I guess he would point that out huh?
>>147226874
>I'll accept that they aren't dead, but they might as well be, we'll never see them in that timeline again
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Will BotW have sailing? Because fuck you, I liked the sailing in WW. All that nice looking water, they had better give me a goddamned boat.

More importantly, will there be zoras? ... I like fish.
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>>147226939
Skullkid doesn't have Majora's Mask in the adult timeline. No mask means no termination. The downfall line could go either way.
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>>147226607
Yeah and it's still nothing compared to the shit that the Hero of Time went through. Notice that each and every one of them got something out of their adventure, like recognition, becoming a King, returning back to a comfy life, etc. The Hero of Time didn't get that.

TP Link seems the most 'damaged' after OoT Link, but even then he was still recognized for his deeds.

Now the Hero of Winds - I think he returned to his family at some point. Gotta bring people to populate the new land that you found.

Also interesting that you posted Colin in your pic. Now that I think about it, he's probably a throwback the Hero of Time and his pre-OoT childhood years. Similar hair cut, blonde, blue eyes, timid and socially awkward, constantly bullied and outcast by the other children in the village; learned the value of courage over time, only real friends were Link and Illia (the latter taking some inspiration from Saria and Navi, to boot - it's especially apparent in her concept art.)
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Hey, we exist in Downfall as well!
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>>147227045
>Skullkid doesn't have Majora's Mask in the adult timeline
I'm sorry, I don't follow, why would Skullkid not have the mask in the adult timeline?
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>>147227015
Kinda. It remains to be seen how much control you will have over the boats. The raft in the demo was a "blow the sail with your leaf" kind of game.
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>>147205172
could be the hero of time
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>>147227101
Interesting, how much do we know about her backstory?
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>>147227015
I imagine so. There are rafts and deku leaf items, and based on the old e3 map (which has changed very slightly) there is an ocean to the east.
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>>147227102
You can visit him in the woods as an adult, and he doesn't have it. Whatever private events lead him to have it in the child line, are not accounted for in the adult setting.
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>>147226664
Or the resurrection chamber is a red herring and this Link is actually a new Link, a clone or a robot or some shit. Hell maybe he's something like Calamity Ganon and he's the essence of all Links combined into one in order to take him down.
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>>147227101
Veran Protomidna

Good but overshadowed by Midna in every way
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>>147227202
Absolutely zero. Only that she also has orange hair, red eyes, blue skin, and uses shadow magic, just like the Twili. Her original concept art had a Sheikah Symbol on her mask (like a lot of the Twili stuff does), she also has a shadow monster form, similar to Midna's use of the Fused Shadows, and during her boss battle the pillars around her room have the Sheikah Symbol on them too, and she has an upside-down eyelash version on her dress, also conveniently has midriff exposed like Midna's.
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Inb4
>Timefuckery
I was thinking about OoT. The split between three timelines has been caused pretty much by Link's time travels.
Now, in MM you can time travel too. How come we didn't get yet another split in MM?

Also, was Majora a sheikah?
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>>147227253 >>147227157
There is a voice that tells him that he has been asleep for 100 years. If it was a computer voice, then we could speculate malfunctions, but all current indications are that this is telepathy from someone.

If the 100 year thing is correct, it may or may not put OOT Link out of contention. TP Link is the next candidate.
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>>147227119
Let's hope there's some proper sailing. At the very least you can swim in this game. That was honestly the worst part of WW for me, the absolute lack of any underwater stuff. I mean, the whole point of the game is that world is now a gigantic ocean, and yet you can't fucking go underwater? Bullshit.

>>147227151
>shield surfing
Between this, and making Link an even more androgynous fuccboi they just want him to be Legolas, don't they?
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>>147227301
You seem to live in a world of personal fan fiction.
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>>147226681
It's still the same thing. I can see how you get that I'm saying something different, but it's all the same. OoT isn't the IW. Hyrule Historia is a little piece of fan-fic that tries to claim it is. Which is an insult to ALttP.

>>147226802
"Blue-eyed beast" is pretty specific.
>>147226804
He was a ghost because he was dead which he wouldn't have been in my example because the Twilight Realm would keep him alive, and morph him into a wolf. Unless you're saying he was only a wolf because he was dead, in which case, prove it.

But isn't it easier just to accept that OoT Link isn't the shade?
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>>147227301
>He was a ghost because he was dead which he wouldn't have been in my example because the Twilight Realm would keep him alive, and morph him into a wolf. Unless you're saying he was only a wolf because he was dead, in which case, prove it.

My point was that he can't fulfill that requirement. He's already dead. Zant didn't run into Ganondorf until shortly before TP begins. Midna clearly hasn't been an imp long, as it's implied she manages to find Link not long after being turned into the Imp and fleeing the Twilight Realm and Zant expands. All that means is Ganondorf was wondering the Twilight Realm for quite awhile before he found the Twilight Palace and Zant.

Besides she doesn't even see the Hero's Shade first, she see's TP Link first. He only first shows up after TP Link has begun his journey, and again only in the Realm of Light, which Midna can't exist in without being in someone's shadow.
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>>147227505
Specific and not relevant or a prediction.
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>>147227403
>a voice
You can just say it's Zelda. Because it's totally Zelda. I'm not the only one who finds BotW Zelda's voice to be rather fetching, right?

>>147227101
>>147227320
Yeah, I refuse to believe Veran's not a twili. I mean, come on now.
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>>147227403
>There is a voice that tells him that he has been asleep for 100 years.

Could be that the old man and the voice are lying. Or that this is an entirely different Link from a post-OoT era. Or this a new Link who was given the Hero of Time's memories or some shit.

Also, it's basically confirmed that the voice is coming from the Sheikah slate. In one video (I think it was the original Treehouse footage, even) you can find Link looking down at his Sheikah slate when the female voice is talking to him in-game.

And honestly I think The origina LoZ/AoL Link is another great candidate to go along with the TP Link and OoT Link speculation.
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>>147227301
>I know you just graduated middle school so you can't read yet
Pretty mature, anon.
Anyways, you claimed that Hyrule Historia retconned Ocarina of Time into being the imprisoning war, while a quick google search would show you that Hyrule Historia affirms that the Imprisoning war happened at the start of the downfall timeline, and only in that timeline.
I don't remember the source for Ocarina of Time being intended to be the imprisoning war, but it was at the very least a common theory before Hyrule Historia came out to contradict it.
We can all have our head canons, anon, but don't come here forcing them down our throats so aggressively, how about next time you attempt a more civil discussion instead?
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>>147227282
Well I can't argue that, but I really like Veran, it'd be nice to see her and Onyx again.
>>147227703
The curious question is whether she's the Queen in the Downfall Timeline, she's rather tall and slender like Midna and Zant, while the rest are pudgy and midgets.

Like Zant, she has a pact with Ganon and can seemingly exist outside of the Twilight Realm due to his magic too. So it's a curious thing if she dies without Ganon.
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>>147227513
>My point was that he can't fulfill that requirement. He's already dead.
I KNOW, WHICH HE WOULDN'T BE IF IT HAD PLAYED OUT OTHERWISE.
>Ganondorf met Zant shortly before
Yes. True. That doesn't mean anything though. It's a moot point. Any number of things could have happened differently. The only point that matters is that the Twili were going to end up in a state of crisis at some point consequential of Ganondorf's sealing. Had he gotten out/found Zant any sooner, then it would all have fallen on OoT Link.
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>>147227771
Stop with the "lying" excuse. In 30 years of Zelda games, not a single lore-important character has ever lied to the player.
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>>147227703
But she lives in the light world freely. Of course if Link and Midna were to...
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>>147227836
Also I really like these old commercials
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>>147227954
Is that a Super GameBoy commercial?
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>>147227931
So does Zant with Ganon Shenanigans.
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>>147227771
It ain't gonna be a lie.
The only two shots that OOT Link would have, is the unlikely downfall timeline, or a situation in which there was a surprisingly short amount of time between OOT and TP and between TP and BotW.
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>>147228098
Not everyone can count on access to Zantics and Ganonigans.
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>>147228075
Yeah, been trying to find it on youtube with not luck.
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>>147227928
Daphnes lied to me. That's Ganondorf, not Ganon.

I'm just trying to make a shitty joke.
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>>147228163
Veran does, she has the Gerudo symbol on her shoulder-pads and her and Onyx were working with Twinrova to revive him.
>>147228102
Pretty sure OoT->TP has been retconned from 100 years to hundreds in Historia.
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>>147228270
Does out of game source count as retconning?
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>tfw Zelda will never whisper sweet nothings in your ear
Seriously though, it'd be pretty funny if Zelda just abused the hell out of this telepathic communication, and started saying really crazy/lewd shit in Link's head.
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>>147228378
If it's made by the creators, then yes. I mean TP never did say how long it had been either, that was just a comment by Miyamoto/Aonuma in interviews.
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>>147228387
>The hero is tired after an entire day of battling
>Can't sleep, for Calamity Ganon haunts his dreams
>Zelda comforts our hero with telepathic princess asmr
>Link sleeps comfortably
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>>147214459
doing bullshit water temple, save state in flood control room early in dungeon, somehow die because I was stupid, decide to leave dungeon and get the lv2 sword, do entire quest and save in game. forgot i did all of this without save point and end up rolling back entire progress
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>>147227928
>>147228102

IDK familia. From what we know about the story so far, everything is looking shifty AF.

>towns and NPCs taken out of the demo for "spoiler reasons"
>Link wakes up from a fucking sci-fi cryo vat with no memory
>voice coldly tells him what to do without explaining anything that happened 100 years ago
>old man tells him what to do without explaining anything that happened 100 years ago
>game firmly defines Zelda (voice,) King (old man,) and Ganon in the first fucking 5 minutes of the game - a rarity for most console Zelda titles
>technology, scifi, magitech, AI and robot themes in general
>Link needs to collect spirit orbs = reforging the hero's spirit?
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>>147227401
I always thought it would've been easier to explain the Downfall Timeline as a direct result of Link phasing out of existence in one timeline due to all the looping in Majora's Mask, or something like that.
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>>147228512
>reforging the hero's spirit
>The hero's spirit has been slowly fading as time passes
>Incarnations are taking longer and longer to happen
>Hyrule is in ruins
>Calamity Ganon is going wild
>No sign of Hyrule's promised hero
>The Sheikah use technology to artificially incarnate Link's soul into a vessel
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>>147228479
>telepathic princess asmr
That sounds like the best radio station ever.

... And I just realized that LoZ has never actually featured radio. Which is weird because it would be easy as hell to just take the radio mechanic from Pokemon and put it in Zelda.
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>>147227246
There are multiple Skull Kids, though. You even meet two at once deeper in the woods. Now unless he still wears the mask you sold him in the adult timeline (I forget), we can't assume he is the same one.
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>>147228628
That would match the whole "insemination" imagery.

Notthatguy.
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>>147228691
Isn't it heavily implied that it's the same one by a line of dialogue?
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>>147227246
>>147228691
Doesn't it confirm somewhere that the mask you give Skull Kid in the trading quest is the same Skull Kid in MM?

Also wouldn't it be logically that since MM takes place a year after OoT, that it also does in the adult timeline while Link is sealed, therefore leading to Termina's destruction?

I mean we don't see the Salesman the entire adult timeline except at the very end at Lon Lon Ranch.
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>>147228628
I really do think that this is the most likely theory.

That or the voice and the old man are just too chicken shit to tell Link that he died 100 years ago and they had to resurrect him in a new body to stop Ganon... but why?

Why be so chicken shit about sharing that information with him? He's a brave kid, he could handle hearing that. Something doesn't add up.

I guess it's always possible that the voice or the old man DO share or strongly imply such details early on and it was actually removed from the demo for story purposes, but I sincerely doubt it.
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>>147228823
Of Skull Kid had stolen MM and gone to Termina, then how does he show up in the future in OOT?
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>>147227102
Not him, but the way I see it is that maybe giving him the skull mask before things got out of hand made a big difference, but in the child timeline, Zelda sends Link back before this happens and he fucks off to find Navi before repeating the trading mask sequence, so the child timeline is the only one where Skullkid steals another mask (Majora's).
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>>147165554
Zelda 1 Zelda is the cutest Zelda.
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>>147198995
It's the name that bothers me
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>>147228741
>>147228823
At the end of MM, yes. But I'm saying there's no credible reason (again, unless that mask is there) to assume the one on the stump in the adult timeline is the same as the one on the stump in the child timeline. He coulda destroyed Termina and another Skull Kid took his stump.

Hell, that new Skull Kid could be the little tyke from the Graveyard that disappeared, for the matter.
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>>147228859
>this Link is Jon Snow
>back from the dead/nothing
>doesn't want it to happen again, let alone revived again
>nobody wants to tell him despite him already knowing
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>>147199708
Why don't you suck mine? At least it is real
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wew. I really wanted to be updated in the lore discussions, but there is no way i'm going to read 345 messages of pure autism
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>>147228972
True, though it's conformed Link still taught him the song at least, so I'd say the odds of that are only 50/50.
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>>147228920
He came back? Majora and it's host seem to continue to exist despite Termina's destruction, I doubt it would willingly kill itself without having a way out. Maybe the Mask Salesman just managed to track him down somewhere in-between and free him. Gotta remember that MM came after, so it could just be a simple retcon that wasn't thought out, it is Zelda afterall.
>>147228993
That is true, the Skull Kid does share the mask with other Skull Kids, I don't recall the actual dialogue though.
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>>147229134
Shit gets convoluted, all doors are timelines
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>>147229243
Holy shit. Who came up with this?
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>>147229303
I did, just now. It's based on the SH3, shit gets rusty, all doors are locked meme.
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>>147229243
That... that actually makes a fuck-ton of sense.
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>>147229368
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>>147229168
>a simple retcon
What's with this buzzword?

How can you retroactively retcon something that hasn't even been commented on besides the fact that their appearance in Game B was based on the one from Game A?
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So. I came up with a theory that inserts BotW that doesn't involve Link dying in the final battle nor timefucker at ny levels.

Child Link gets out of Kokiri forest and stays in a never ending loop of conversation with the Owl
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>>147218283
Man. Only like 15 pictures are any good at all.
All those ones that are literally just a recolor of a generic anime elf girl are also pretty boring.
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>>147229563
I meant "inser BotW in the downfall timeline". I just woke up, bear with me
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>>147229168
>Majora and it's host seem to continue to exist despite Termina's destruction
>I doubt it would willingly kill itself without having a way out
What gives you that impression? The mask seems to be an existence of child-like chaos, I don't recall it displaying good reasoning, and giving Link the FD mask was a pretty suicidal act. Its thought process might be too abstract to understand from our perspective so destroying itself with Termina might not be out of the question.
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>>147225780
Not that other guy, but I would both Impa and Midna.
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>>147225585
That is mostly because she didn't appear yet
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>>147227474
>making Link an even more androgynous fuccboi
All they did was make his hair longer. I don't really get 'more fuccboi' out of that.
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>>147229243
I don't have a reaction appropriate enough for this
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>>147165247
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>>147227474
>you can't fucking go underwater?

This is most probably because they wanted the ocean to look deep, mysterious and massive. If it were implemented any kind of underwater exploration, the ocean had to be divided in sections for the NGC probably wouldn't be able to render all that shit like it rendered the Great Sea
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>>147229742
>and giving Link the FD mask was a pretty suicidal act
I actually saw a pretty cool theory that said Majora wasn't evil, it just wanted revenge on its killer, the "Fierce Deity," basically the soul inside the mask. It said that Termina was a fake world constructed by Majora made to reflect Link's own world so that Link would feel more inclined to save the world on an emotional level. Having to collect all the masks to get the Fierce Deity Mask was meant to be an additional trial to see if Link was truly worthy to be the opponent. Unfortunately for Majora, he jobs. Maybe the Fierce Deity was really that powerful, or maybe Link's abilities/soul boost the power of the already-formidable Deity. And at the end of the game, the Happy Mask Salesman says that the evil has left Majora's Mask, but in the Fierce Deity Mask ending so has the Fierce Deity Mask, so that mask could have been the evil energy residing in Majora's Mask.

Minor evidence that would support this theory is how Majora tells you you're the bad guy (could just be from his perspective), the origins of the Fierce Deity in the manga (obviously has debatable canon-status), and that in Japan the Fierce Deity Mask is called the Oni Mask, which means Demon Mask (Majora would see his killer as a demon).


Just thought I'd add that theory to the cesspool of argument going on right now. Not like I'll be awake to participate.
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>>147230307
Interesting theory, but I suppose it hinges on the manga plotline of Majora/Hylian.
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>Europe time is over
Time to leave
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>>147230350
I wouldn't say it hinges on it, it's just FAR more speculative without the manga evidence.
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>>147230436
Fair enough, I do like the theory, I don't recall if it was earlier in this thread or the last thread on the guy talking about FD being Link's real mask/true personality/how he sees himself, it would fit well with that theory too.
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>>147230307
>in Japan the Fierce Deity Mask is called the Oni Mask
It actually isn't >>147204460 but I don't think that fact brings the theory down too much even if I don't personally believe it. The cool thing about MM is that it left so much of the story and concepts vague enough for the audience to fill in, but on the other hand no one will ever know how close to the truth their theories are, if there even is a truth.
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>>147230380
What do you mean? EU hours in /lozg/ are a wasteland.
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Why is Midna so sexual?
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>>147230903
Maybe because she is totally nude and has a huge ass
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>>147230903
She has loli proportions
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>>147230903
>Teasing personality
>Crazy skin color
>Fangs
>Tall
>Partially naked all the time
Gee I have no idea.

Of course I'm talking about twili Midna. The superior Midna
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>>147231132
Well Imp Midna is basically child Midna, a tiny little mischievous brat. At least I always saw it as more of age regression than a different form.
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>>147230903
hot bods sell games
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>>147231159
They're both twili though. Always did find it odd how human her true form appears, compared to the other Twili we see in her realm.

Also, tall powerful chicks are hot.
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>>147231741
Probably something to do with royalty, Zant and Veran are the same way.
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>>147231741
We all know that the less fortunate have a certain bestial likeness to them. Even in human beings
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>>147231958
Wasn't Zant a jester or something?
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>>147232309
Who knows. He thought he legit deserved the throne, but Midna makes no implication they're related. Maybe it's elected democratically, maybe it's based on skill in Shadow Magic, maybe he thought because he was tall and lanky he was fit for ruling. Who knows.
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>>147230009
Why does Link have such wide hips in this game?

His package is pretty big too. Maybe the tight pants are accentuating that, though.
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GAME OVER FOR /LOZG/ WE ARE A DEAD GENERAL NOW
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Not many ausfags in here desu
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I was actually surprised. It seems that most of the anons are are from the US
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>>147234061
she's purdy
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>>147234105
This is the American (original) Internet.
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>>147233864
It's eurotime. And i'm busy.
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>>147231741
There's some speculation that it's their "raw form" or something, and not how they actually look, 'cause you just freed them from being twilight beasts.
>>147232365
I got the impression they had a democratic monarchy-- you choose from various houses.
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is ss worth playing or should I just skip the forced motion control shitfest
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>>147232673
>Why does Link have such wide hips in this game?
Maybe he really was supposed to be a chick in this game, but they wussed out at the last minute.

Or maybe you can play as Zelda in a new game+, and they simply share the same skeleton.
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>>147235205
It's really not a big deal at all. It works pretty well.
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>>147235419
ok then follow up of will the wii-u play it
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>>147235661
Well, it has backward compatibility.
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>>147235661
what?
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>>147235707
may as well look into getting myself a copy/ wii controller then, also need to play minish and spirit since I haven't played a majority of the handhelds, besides the oracle series
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Is someone making a new thread?
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>>147235891
No one said it
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So we're all agreed that Zelda lore doesn't actually make any sense, it's just fans desperately wanting it to make sense, right?
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>>147236098
That and desperately seeking attention, yes.
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I'm making the new thread, nobody do it, all right?
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>>147237278
Do it anon.
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NEW THREAD

>>147237492
>>147237492
>>147237492
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>>147225261
He made a wish, anon. Do you understand what that means?
>>147225278
Link probably rescued the Gorons and Ruto again after being sent back.
>>147235205
Be prepared for bullshit, but a good chunk of the game is pretty fun
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