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/lozg/ - The Legend of Zelda General

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Welcome to the Legend of Zelda general. Talk about Zelda games old and new, and all discussions related to the entire franchise in its various forms. Share and discuss art, music, news developments, timeline theories, speedrunning strats, etc.

/lozg/ #12 - Timefuckery edition

>I never played a Zelda game, where should I start?
http://zeldadungeon.net/forum/threads/best-zelda-game-for-new-players-to-start-with-a-brief-recommendation-guide.52290/

>List of Zelda games currently available on this gen's consoles
https://www.nintendo.com/games/game-guide?pv=true#/filter/-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|zelda
3DS has the N64 Zelda remakes plus NES, SNES, GBC Virtual Console.
Wii U has the GC Zelda HD ports plus NES, SNES, N64, GBA, Wii and DS Virtual Console.

>The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild Infobin
http://pastebin.com/E8FjmmKD

BotW Known Item Stats:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1r6bbN74Bvbsm7nQ9TYDPhtM-DBXMADweKqKYTuaFG_I/edit?usp=sharing

>More Zelda 1? Check Zelda Classic's romhacks:
http://www.zeldaclassic.com/

>News/Developments<

HWL Link's Awakening pack trailer:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N9nGBVhOGWI

Zelda prizes on MyNintendo
>Twilight Princess Picross:
https://my.nintendo.com/rewards/93fc36d80848c6dc
>Link theme for 3DS:
https://my.nintendo.com/rewards/82df9c18e92f49fc
>Wind Waker HD coupon:
https://my.nintendo.com/rewards/5fcf540895787b91
>Bow and arrows for Miitomo:
https://my.nintendo.com/rewards/0254df5cf4af7f7a

TloZ - "Symphony of the Godesses" concert tour
http://zelda-symphony.com/pages/schedule

TloZ Card Game
http://www.gamespot.com/articles/the-legend-of-zelda-trading-cards-listed-online/1100-6439912/

Twilight Princess manga in the west
http://www.nintendolife.com/news/2016/05/the_legend_of_zelda_twilight_princess_manga_is_coming_to_the_west

BotW Link figurine in production:
http://gonintendo.com/stories/260163-medicom-reveals-zelda-breath-of-the-wild-figurine

Previous thread: >>147165247
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First for Koros exist in all timelines
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First for Cute Doggy
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what is the overall best temple design?
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>>147237583
Koroks*
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>>147237651
You mean from a merely aestethic point of view or from a level design one?
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>>147237719
I guess both. Would be more interested in hearing what dungeon you guys think is the best in terms of level design though desu
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>>147237492
Every clock translates to a trip back in time in OoT and a door opened. All of them are alternate timelines.
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>BotW
>all this Sheikah stuff
>no sign of Impa
Uh...
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New BotW Wii U analisys. This game and physics egine are pushing its weak hardware to its limits.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uiEYTN-nDso
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>>147237593
DOGGO
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>>147237896
>still no sign of Impa
Fixed.
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Was there any Sheikah imagery to be found at all in WW? I don't remember seeing any.
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>>147238016
Yup. Plus the Sun statues.
The tower ofgods seem also made by a technology similar to the Sheikah's one.
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>>147237997
I really hope she's in this game. It'd be extremely lame if the most prominent Sheikah character was absent from a game that constantly shoves Sheikah stuff in your face.

>>147238016
Well, there was the stained glass window in the Master Sword chamber. Other that that, I don't recall any. I mean, Gohdan possibly counts now.
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15th for slow euro time.
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>>147238240
I wonder if she will be an old woman or a young lady this time.
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>>147239664
Probably both, like in SS. Or they could just have an in-between and make her a middle-aged silver fox.
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>>147239664
Loli Impa when?
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>>147240058
I need this now.
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>>147240058
My dick needs it now.
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>>147238240
That or maybe a new really good sheikah character and really heavy mentions on Impa at least
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>>147237920
The Footage loks really good there, I think it's likely that the framerate will be more stable on release.
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>>147240790
I think so as well. The E3 demo wasn't the complete game after all.
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>>147240175
>>147240240
It's a little hard to tell, but I'm pretty sure HW Impa is probably in her early-mid thirties. The white hair is stress from being captain of the guard, Zelda's personal bodyguard, and leading troops. This Impa apparently never goddamned sleeps.

>>147240256
Well, we've got the mummy priests, but they're not really characters as such.
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Confession time: I've never beat OoT or MM.
am I a piece of shit?
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>>147241193
Yes. Get out of our general
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>>147241193
Nah, same here. But I'm sure out there you can find people that played OoT and MM but never completed LoZ 1 and 2, unlike me.
So who gives a fuck. Enjoy Zelda. This gen is also great to pick up games in the series you missed.
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>>147241117
>The white hair is stress from being captain of the guard
I thought Impa was naturally albino.
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>>147237492
Can the Wii U play gamecube games?
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>>147241816
I wish
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>>147241861
Damn there's one on sale for $170 new, I would've gotten it.
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>>147241816
Yes and no.
You have to softmod the Wii mode in the Wii U to play GC games on it.
It's easy and not dangerous, as Nintendo stopped uodating the Wii OS. Just install DiosMios and you're done, you have a Wii U that plays GC games.
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>>147242076
Does that void your warranty by downloading that, And can you plug gamecube controllers into your wii u? Or does the wii u controller work with gamecube games?
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>>147242350
>Does that void your warranty by downloading that,
It's a softmod of only the Wii part of the console, so no.
>And can you plug gamecube controllers into your wii u?
You can but you need a GC adapter.
>Or does the wii u controller work with gamecube games?
It does. But some specific games could need GC controller's analog triggers.
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>>147242624
Thanks bro.
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Rance IV confirmed for being in some timeline of Zelda. Toushin Toushi Ylapu confirmed for being Skyloft.
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>>147241731
Nah, she has a noticeably darker skin color than Zelda and Link.
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>>147242781
No worries. The Wii U is worth getting for its backwards compatibility potential. It plays Wii U, Wii, GC, N64, SNES, NES games and all handhelds's games up to the DS.
Maybe the NX will do it too. But it will cost more than a Wii U and it will take longer to be hacked.
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>>147242951
>>147241117
Stop, you're only making me want it more.
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>>147242935
W-what was it?
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>>147243162
Something that would've gotten me banned for a month
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>>147243108
What's that, anon? You want me to post more Impa? Well okay!
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>>147243447
This can't be all there is
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>you never have a cool big sister/surrogate mother who teaches you to be a ninja
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Reminder that Sheik is MALE
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>>147244229
It's not, but I hate doubleposting.
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>>147244716
Those look like boobs and women legs to me
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>>147241648
How about the second quest of LoZ?
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>>147244860
Ah ah, of course I played that one too
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>>147244801
I was talking about that picture in particular. Is it just a section or is there a full body version?
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>>147244716
those bandages in her chest are there to hide her boobs
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>>147244842
There really needs to be a montage of Impa training Zelda to be a Sheikah warrior. Perhaps in the form of a short or a comic.
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>>147245120
It's okay to admit you haven't
I certainly haven't yet.
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>>147237583
If they existed in all timelines, then we would have already see them in the child and downfall timelines.

But it's not the case.
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>>147245767
I'll believe in that once you get first comment stating this. Until then, mine has supreme authority over any argument.
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>>147245952
lol what a gay
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>>147237792
For me it's either Stone Tower Temple, Forest Temple, or Spirit Temple. The first two especially have great atmosphere.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hmsZyC0UXUU
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>>147240174
>loli impa nursing granny zelda
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>>147245160
No idea. If there is, I've never seen it.
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I'm playing ALBW for a third time and it's still just so great. The openendedness of Lorule is really satisfying.
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Just a reminder that BotW is going to be a game about timeline collision and will force the series back into a singular timeline to allow for maximum experimentation in setting and execution as the series modernises and moves forward.
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>>147246791
How do you figure? Forcing it into one timeline seems more restrictive if anything, since they'll have to retain a higher level of consistency.
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>>147246791
>to allow for maximum experimentation in setting
Actually, three timelines allow for more experimentations. Just look at how different are WW and TP.
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>>147246791
no
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>>147246791
A lot of timelines that don't even matter is better. They can just come up with any sort of crazy story and lazily shove it up somewhere after
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>>147244390
>Aryll will never meet her big sister Linkle.
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>>147246537
I'll never get the hate for ALBW
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What was this guy's deal?
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>>147249051
Poes
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>>147249051
Spooky ghost person
As Hyrule descended into Ganon's darkness, shit like him rose to the surface

Whatever he is.
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>>147249051
He wants to poke his poe pole into your boy hole.
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>>147249051
What? Poes are delicious. Breaded and deep fried, with just a little garlic and onion in the breading.
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>>147249394
u fokkin wot
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GUYS. GUYS, with the voice acting saying Link, this means I cannot use a custom name for him, right?
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>>147249621
Shit

That's not true, right?

Not after they stopped him being a lefty for no good reason...
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>>147249684
It would be a crime if Link can't take photos and selfies with that slate.
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>>147249693
People caring about which hand link uses are just as stupid as those that care about Link's gender.

Who gives a fuck, just play the damn game.
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>>147249805
I'm left handed. No characters are left handed. It was cool that one guy was, and now he isn't, and for no real reason.

They could just have a fucking option.
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>>147249805
But Nintendo is lazy. They should make at least one game with Link being a woman. There's no reason not to.
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>>147249949
Like a gender option? Fuck off, mate. This is trivial stuff to complain about. You are the living confirmation lefties are terrible people.
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>>147250152
>lol modelling gender is exactly the same as flipping a model
Jesus Christ.
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>>147249949

There was a reason. The majority of people are Right-Handed. And it was a change due to the most recent console games having Link being left-handed. I know it sucks, i didn't even cared what hand he used.
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>>147249949
You say there's no real readon for him to be right handed but there's also no real reason for him to be left handed.
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>>147250236
recent console games having Link being left-handed*
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>>147250236
It was changed due to motion controls (by shittily mirroring the whole world at first -- no options there, either, 'cause that would make sense). But now they don't use motion controls.
>>147250272
Yes. And?
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Nintendo has asked you to build a new Color Dungeon. However this time to incorporate proper color mechanics.(Colorblind friends don't worry it'll have colorblind modes).

The trick however is it can't be something as simple as the LA DX Color Dungeon or just simply painting stuff the right color or matching up colors or what have you, it has to be an entirely unique experience.

What do you create?
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>>147250342
Even with motion controls they could have made an option. The Wiimote+nunchuk don't depend on positioning, it's the same layout on both hands.

It's a shit reason, but that IS the reason. They just chose to stick with it.
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>>147250272
>Yes. And?

Why are you complaining about it when it doesn't matter?
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>>147250376
Use an item that raises the ground, like the rod in ALBW, to create slopes. Coloured inks must run down the hills in order to mix, thus creating the requisite colour to set of a Shiekah Colour Authenticater, or some nonsense like that.
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>>147250449
Yes.

My point isn't "how dare they not stick with it". It's "this sucks for me and my immersion that they did not stick with it".
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>>147249949
>identifying over dominant hands
Jesus christ, this character has brown eyes, I have brown eyes too, wow we're so alike.
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>>147250064
>There's no reason not to.
We can have a female Link after we have a Legend of Zelda game where you can actually play as Princess Zelda.

And I mean mainline, CDi-fags. Do not fucking start with me.
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>>147250635
>lel what is reading comprehension
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>>147250376
Dungeons are boring. I play Zelda games for the story and atmosphere. If I could skip dungeons, I would.
Hopefully BotW will make dungeons optional. Maybe with an option to turn them off.
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>>147250657
>AMA STRONK WOMAN
>AI DON'T NEED A SHIELD
>AM STRONK
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>>147250657
Last Zelda game.

Zelda is tired of this shit repeating.
Recover her godlike form
Absorb the Soul of the Hero and Master Sword into her own
Proceed to BTFO Ganon for good
Shit gets so serious that all timelines converge due to insane amounts of timefuckery
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>>147250725
>I'm left handed. No characters are left handed. It was cool that one guy was
Nice denial.
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>>147250964
Identifying isn't the same as being immersed you mong.
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I can only identify with guys that have their dicks bent to the right.
The size doesn't matter. I have already come to terms that i have a baby dick
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>>147251087
This fucking post killed my sides, I'm laughing like a retard
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>>147251087
>I can only identify with guys that have their dicks bent to the right.
>The size doesn't matter. I have already come to terms that i have a baby dick
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>>147251038
>lefty cares that link is left handed because hes also left handed and wants a character to share his trait
>it isnt identifying its immersion i swear
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>>147250657
>And I mean mainline, CDi-fags. Do not fucking start with me.
Rude
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MORE INTREPID ADVENTURING
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There were a few great ideas thrown around last thread.
Reposting anon's dungeon query.

You know are in charge of BotW dungeons; what do you do?

>Dungeon Name (optional)
>Theme/Aesthetic (ie: Forest/Mansion or Volcano/Mines)
>Item(s) Obtained
>Types of Puzzles (ie: Light puzzles, water raising/lowering, or something abstract and unique)
>Boss (ie: Dragon, Poe, etc.)

This time go into as much detail as you wish.
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>>147251406
>and wants a character to share his trait
This is what I meant by "reading comprehension".

But I'm sure you know the inside of my head better than I do.
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>>147251440
FI IS FOR INTREPID i really like that image, keep reposting it
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>>147251536
Then don't fucking bring up that your left-handed too, it's clear to anyone with a brain why you actually care.
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>>147251717
*you're
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>>147250653
I love that comic.
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>>147251528

Also reposting my dungeon idea with the added Boss idea from that kind anon:
>Dungeon name
Starscape Temple

>Theme/Aesthetic
Visually black and neon-blue looking. Think loosely similar to some of the vistas in Metroid Prime 2 Echoes.

The Sheikah are tech savy but not enough to into space. However they can into Magitek enough to implant miniature worlds into books in their great Arcane Library (how the temple would be accessed, maybe even a tiny pre-dungeon)
A book that makes a fictional commentary on the technology of the future is on a sacred pedestal, there because it's the librarian's favorite tome or something, in the back of the Library.
The book would suck you in an Link would be transported to
a literal Temple in space orbiting the planet (a few visual quirks to indicate the fictional nature of the realm). Very "Sheikahpunk" in terms of the various tech strewn about the level.

>Item Obtained
Transposition Mask
Mask/Rune that allows you to jump positions in space but only once set conditions are met. That and/or a special/arrow type. It'd be neat to have more arrows than just fire/ice/light. Maybe Electirc and Dark + others?
Have it be Dark arrow and have it function with Gravity effects to play off of the theme of the dungeon.
Transposition Mask could be used as the song-of-soaring-equivalent in the overworld.

>Types of Puzzles
Gravity shenanigan related ones and also some of that autistic "Mask interplay" I talk about in you-know-what http://pastebin.com/aDhkvC1E
Maybe like Inverted Stone Tower but 90 degrees at a time.

>Boss
A recurring enemy throughout the dungeon would be the Flatwoods monster Aliens from MM and have the Boss be the Leader !Space Witch!Alien.
Why are they in space book in the first place? Dunno. Either have them invading it to get the legendary end item inside or have them be a product of the book that bled out to cause the event that transpired in MM Romani Ranch.
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>>147251536
>>147251717

just go chill yourselves
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I haven't played Zelda in a long time, I only really played oracle of seasons and oot and majora's mask in the collector's edition for the gc.

Breath of the wild actually has me hyped and I might buy an NX just for it. It looks like a cross between the zelda of my childhood and some of the gritty refinements and additions on the formula other series like dark souls have added over time.
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>>147251929
I'm way ahead of you, bud.
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Post Comfy
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>>147252245
>oot and majora's mask in the collector's edition for the gc.
I'm so, so sorry.
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>>147251894
>qt Flatwoods Monstergirl Alien Space Witch Boss
Could work.
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Post comfy Fi. (comfy fee)
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>>147250376
Each item has a different function in the dungeon, fire rod/fire arrow for instance would be red and ice rod/arrow would be blue, Deku Leaf green, etc.

Each color having a different property, and the items used to make those properties happen. Such as say green would cause grass to grow, or blue would raise the water level or fill fountains or certain pots on scales and such.

And the puzzles would be based around shooting the color from your items to change the environment of the room, each room has a variant, like the bland first room can be made green, blue, red, etc. and each room's puzzles is dependent on the color you use, with certain enemies and the Boss require strategic placement and room/environment changes.
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>>147252529
>qt
I was thinking more along the lines of pic related
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>>147252582
Comfee.
Keep posting while I eat.
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>>147252326
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>>147252326
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>>147246537
>>147247396
I understand people's frustration with how short it is, but frankly I think it's a perfect handheld Zelda. I can bang it out in a couple days, or just one if I'm bored.
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>>147252582
"Fee" sounds like air coming out of a balloon or a small squeaky fart.
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>>147251528
>>147251894
>>147252657
I really fucking like this. I always wanted more explanation about the MM aliens.
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>>147253096
It's a short "fee" Fih not feeeeeeeeeeeee
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>>147251528
>Dungeon Name
Test Facility
>Theme/Aesthetic
Think of a combination of the Tower of Gods and Lanayru Mines. It's a large facility meant to test electrical/technological contraptions. You'll see bits of the Ancient Robots, Gohdan, Light Fixtures, etc.
>Items Obtained
Shock Rod/Shock Arrow (doesn't matter, they'd function the same really)
>Types of Puzzles
A mixture of electrical puzzles to power on generators and the machines within the facility. And the ability to push large spires/towers around using clockwork gears in order to have lightning strike them in order to power up the more large machines and rooms.
>Boss
Ancient Robot + Holograms. The Ancient Robot will spawn Holograms similar to Zant's in the Twilight Palace. The boss must have individually powered circuits overloaded using the Shock Rod/Arrow, which causes him to spawn more distorted holograms as time goes on and bits of him to fall off as they begin to cease working. His main attacks being lasers and Gohdan's electric blasts and the holograms themselves, which could be of various enemies or himself for double-triple lasers and blasts.

I think it could work well.
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>>147253178
So like the fart then.
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>>147253209
That's a strange fart there.
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>>147250376
>>147251528
We should combine these two posts.
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>>147252985
Playing through LA again, completely wanted to skip the camera stuff outside of Marin, by the time I got her I completely forgot you couldn't talk to the camera man to trigger the sidequest, so I missed out on all those nice screenshots, real shame, but I don't want to play through it again immediately after just to get those screens.
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Have a good run, /lozg/, this evening I'm too busy to chill with you.
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>>147253248
Look at all this fun Fi.
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>>147253248
Cuuuuute
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So. Anyone got some shit theory as to what that circular hole in the mountain is?
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>>147253835
>A bite
>A hole created by a meteorite
>It's actually the mouth of a very big petrified moster
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>>147253335
>completely wanted to skip the camera stuff outside of Marin
What the heck, man.
>>147253294
It's like a little squeak out your bunghole.
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>>147253835
Meteor probably, TP Death Mountain is basically a meteor in a big hole.
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>>147254026
>It's actually the mouth of a very big petrified moster

That's a not so shitty one. It would be fun.
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>>147253835
A cloud
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>>147253205
I like it except the name.
>Shock Arrow
I had an idead to add a "special" use to each arrow type. Completely unique to each type. For Electirc/Shock/Lightning/whatever Arrow the special would be that you can shoot one straight into the sky then it'd be gone. You could then take out your sword and whatever you target and swing AT a fucking thunderbolt would strike it. For puzzle you could have some targets that can't be shoot directly with Shock arrow and only from above, which you have no line-of-sight to. This is solved with the lightning strike special.
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>>147254134
I don't think a meteor would make a perfectly circular hole. But that is just me thinking realistically.
>>147254190
It is actually a big fucking hole
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>>147253560
You're out of the cool kids club now. Don't bother coming back.
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>>147254104
BotW got me on a hype train so I just wanted to play through all of them that I could, and I know the Camera is optional, and unfortunately while taking screenshots it didn't even cross my mind that I'd be missing out on so many potential good screenshots.

Just a dumb oversight on my part.
>>147254242
Well I was mostly thinking of a Fire/Ice Rod equivalent, and Shock came to mind, I wish they were called Flame/Freeze Rods respectively personally. But that's just me, glad you like the idea though.

That would definitely be a unique way to use an arrow honestly, but how it would work if say there were other metal materials in the arrow or would it just be pre-programmed for the sword only?
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>>147241193
No, but you're missing out. Especially when it comes to MM.
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>tfw after all these years you just now realized the Bombos Medallion is the Forest Medallion

I feel stupid, but that's really neat considering what the Bombos Medallion can do.
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>>147255004
List 10 reasons why MM is good that weren't mentioned by matthewmatosis

MM sucks
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>>147255146
>MM sucks
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>>147246791
While I don't think that's the case (split timelines allow for more experimentation imo,) I still believe that this could involve a timeline convergence due to the simple fact that we've been seeing so many remakes within the last 6 years.

Having direct connections to games like OoT, WW, TP and the like would encourage younger players to buy the recent remakes and HD versions of those games.
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>>147255146
Not him, but does a game really need 10 reasons in which to be liked or disliked? As long as there is one feature that makes you like a game I think that is personally enough.

For me personally, MM is a great game, not my favorite Zelda, but it's a great game like all Zellda games (CD-i need not apply).

I love the sense of wonderment and characterization through sidequests, I loved the world itself despite it's size and general lack of dungeons, they were quality dungeons (Great Bay a little less so).

I loved seeing this new world that was unique and a little quirky if you will. It was full off odd colors in places and just an overall sense of great aesthetic.

But that is just me, just felt like throwing my two cents in.
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What are the circumstances for the Triforce to grant wishes or for it to split into three pieces?
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>>147254943
Well I've always Preferred elemental arrows over rods but that's just my opinion
It's always been Rods for 2D and Arrows for 3D hasn't it?

For the sword. Remember the Demise fight? Like that except it'd never strike the sword only what you swing it at. Maybe have the sword wreathed in lightning as a visual indicator.
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>>147255407
Touching it complete grants wishes.
Touching it and not having an equal balance of power, wisdom, and courage splits it.
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>>147255146
It's worth a shot. Assuming the anon is younger, there's a stronger chance he'll gravitate towards MM though. I've noticed that most younger gamers who weren't around to play either of the N64 Zeldas while they were still relevant tend prefer MM over OoT now.
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>>147255536
That's been mostly true yeah. It's started to become less in recent years with 2D games becoming 2.5/3D as well (but handheld I get your point), and BotW throws that out the window now having the fire rod.

Ok yeah, Demise' sword programming could work pretty well in fact.
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>>147255567
How did Ganon used it before ALttp when he turned the Sacred Realm into the Dark World if he didn't have an equal balance?
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>>147255361
I was just trolling.

MM, imo, is one of the best games i have ever played. And like you, it is also not my favorite it is WW.

Apart from the obvious "not liking the atmosphere, too dark or something" people complain about the time limit.

I take that most people who complain about the time mechanic get anxious from just its presence there. It is understandable to a certain degree, clocks have been notoriously bad implemented in games, often just to punish the player. But in MM it fits amazingly well into the gameplay.
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>>147255643
I'm going on 25 and I prefer MM to OoT. Mostly because I've played OoT to absolute death, but I appreciate the side-quests of MM and the characterization. I appreciated it quite heavily in WW too and the few instances of TP that had it, same as SS. I like that characters actually feel like characters instead of sort of bland set pieces. OoT feels like that to me outside of a few characters and maybe 1-2 lines from random characters you only ever see 1-2 times total.
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>>147255795
plot twist. ganon is a good guy
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Is Link's Awakening DX the best Zelda remake? The photo album is the cutest shit in the whole series.
>>147255146
Not that guy, but it has the most fleshed out town and NPCs, great atmosphere, best sidequests, best antagonist, the variety of ways the masks let you interact with the environment is super fun, goron mask is the best mode of transportation in any of the games, it's innovative in a series that tends to rehash itself a lot, tatl was a good companion, the transition between the moon destroying everything to the serene tranquility when you're transported inside the moon is one of the most memorable moments in the games for me, and the ending was super satisfying. Easily my favorite.
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>>147255795
Presumably he took it from Link and Zelda when he defeated them in OoT, like how he does in WW. It initially split in OoT due to Ganondorf, but it can be brought back together and after that, it doesn't matter anymore, the failsafe (splitting) has been fixed.
>>147255797
Ah my bad, it's hard to tell sometimes with 4chan whats trolling and whats not anymore.

Agreed, WW is also my favorite game personally, in my top 3 of all time games actually. I don't disagree, the day system can get a bit annoying. I can't tell you how many times I've slowed it down to try to do as much as possible and still come up short by just a bit sadly. But I think it works well too, the further you progress the easier it is to do everything in a day.
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>>147256008
>that little dork is the strongest Link by a good mile defeating Ganon when he had the full power of the Triforce
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>>147256008
it also has some of the most unsettling shit in the series

>garos
>ranch aliens
>dancing redeads
>dead deku son
>people all over town accepting death
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>>147255684
Btw the other specials would be as follows:
>Fire arrows
Instead of a whole seperate bomb arrow you instead have fire arrow combine with your bombs for a fire-arrow-boosted explosion
>Ice arrow
Dunno. Had an idea for a Ice shard shotgun but thats not novel enough. Need something with an utterly unique puzzle solving potential.
>Light arrow
Also dunno but at least I want to change it's color from yellow to white. (Purely so Electric can have a color and blue is taken)
>Electric arrow
See above
>Dark arrow
Gravity effects when shot at special symbols strewn about the overworld and it's debut temple
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>>147256127
Why did it look like it split when Daphnes used it in WW then? Where did each piece go to?
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>>147256418
You could just re-introduce water freezing for Ice Arrows like in MM, and potentially that it to the next level and have it freeze anything, such as trees, the floor, etc. That way it could help getting blocks and stuff around faster by sliding them on ice.

Light Arrows could have a reflecting property when shot off certain services.

Overall though, I like it. Arrows need to actually be what they are, which I liked in MM with them freezing, and I'm glad BotW that Fire Arrows actually burn things.
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>>147256690
but i don't prefer MM anon
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>>147256701
Water freezing in this game is done with the Cryonis rune now, though.
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>>147256580
If you pull the map back during the Ganondorf fight, the Triforce Pieces are overhead causing the flooding themselves. They likely split to speed the process up.
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I really enjoy Wind Waker, but the lack of any underwater stuff, as well as very little naval combat hurts it a lot. There's a lot of stuff that should be in this game, but isn't. Like Zoras.
>world is flooded
>the fish people turn into birds
>HUURRRRRR

Also, you should be able to upgrade your boat. Like after the Temple of the Gods, you should get to control Tetra's ship. And Tetra should go with you, because her staying at the castle is bullshit.

I hope they try this type of game again, but with more substance to it.
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>>147256783
Fuck was meant for>>147255875
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>>147256801
Then you can just do it for other surfaces and materials then. Who knows, maybe Ice Arrows might not even be in the game.
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>>147256946
I think that would hurt the King. Nailing stuff to him. Making him larger. ;-;
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>>147256946
It's baffling that to this day people still can't grasp why Zoras evolved into Ritos.
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>>147256946
The Gods forced evolution so that they wouldn't be able to explore Hyrule again. Only Lord Jabun and the map fish get that privilege, and the map fish doesn't seem to be able to dive down far enough.
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>>147256946
Wasn't salt water was deadly to the zoras?
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>>147257019
Ice Arrows are confirmed to be in the game.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fEI8H262EAk
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>>147257139
In that timeline, yes. They hadn't evolved into their weird dual River Zora evolutionary split yet where they can exist in fresh/salt water.
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>>147257108
I feel the same way
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>>147256701
But thats the what-effect-does-thing-have-when-shot-at-shit. Fire arrow burns. Ice freezes.
Inappropriate for a special
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>>147257173
Hmm, interesting thing. You got me stumped other than freezing trees and certain things.

Maybe it could work on the slow down, like that gameplay where Link smashes the boulder and sends it into the distance, maybe if you shoot it with an ice arrow, it 'freezes the timer' so you can hop on it and go places.

Who knows though.
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>>147257108
>>147257129
The existence of submarines renders that completely pointless. The Goddesses are stupid bitches for thinking that would work. And guess what? It didn't. Ganon came back despite the fucktons of water they dropped on him.

It's nothing more than a weak excuse for lazy design.

>>147257139
No, and it's never actually stated anywhere that they can't go in either salt or fresh.
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>>147257423
Rito is the explanation anon
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>>147257423
A submarine can only go down so far in the ocean before water pressure begins to crumble it. Just because submarines exist doesn't mean they can get all the way down to Hyrule. While likely they can because they're treasure hunters, we don't know for sure.

Besides the Goddesses/Gods do as they please. They're not entirely benevolent. The people wanted them to get rid of Ganon, and so they did. They got rid of him for that generation. They can't help they have no power over Demise returning time and time again. It's likely that Demons existed before the Golden Goddesses came and cultivated the world around them, banishing them to beneath the surface.

Besides what would you get out of exploring underneath the water? Most of it is just Hyrule with mountains/islands jettisoning into the sky/sea level. Most you'd get is clunky swimming controls, some chests scattered around, and ultimately some random ruin backdrops and some coral on the sides of those mountains. It wouldn't be much honestly.

And it's not particularly lazy design when they never intended for it in the first place.
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>>147257495
Rito are abominations born out of bad writing.
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>>147257423
They weren't trying to stop Ganon. The people wished for the Gods to help and for him not to take Hyrule, so they flooded it.

They got monkeys pawed.
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>>147257423
>weak excuse for lazy design
What do you mean by lazy design? It would be infinitely easier to just call it a new race and be done with it, but they showed us that they evolved from Zora and also gave us a reason why.
As for your submarines argument, that wasn't a thing before the flood now, was it? Same applies to how even though the flood is a divine event, the Koroks and the Deku tree can still drain the water.
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I WANT TO FUCK FI

>mfw I slept for 12 hours
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>>147257804
Rude
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>>147257804
>it doesn't follow the evolutionary process of the real world. it's shit.

The reason they were transformed into birds is because the Great Sea is teeming with monster and the Zora were too few.
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>>147258162
I WANT TO INTREPIDLY FUCK FI
FIH
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>>147258465
Not okay.
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Uhm guys

http://nintendoeverything.com/hyrule-warriors-legends-upcoming-dlc-characters-seemingly-outed/
Now you realize why Nintendo doesn't want to give their demo to dataminers.
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>>147259205
>their botw demo
Fixed
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>>147259205
Well that's their fault for not removing the info from the DLC already released.

But yeah, Nintendo doesn't do much demos because of stuff like that
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>>147259205
>no Linebeck
FUCK
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>>147259391
>Well that's their fault for not removing the info from the DLC already released.
Koei doesn't care
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>>147259446
WELL THEN GEE NINTENDO WHY DON'T YOU PUT THESE THINGS IN THE CONTRACT?
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>>147259205
Suddently, I feel like not buying the season pass anymore.
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>>147238073
that image has no sheikah reference though. do you have more?
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>>147254613
Is she crying cause she can finally triforce correctly, tears of joy that she is no longer a newfag?
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>>147259762
Not that guy, but the spectacles are made of two Sheikah eyes put together, and the decorative shield in the pirate's keep has a Sheikah symbol on it.

The other Sheikah symbol besides this, is Mrs. Marie's kimono.
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>>147255407
There are still some blanks concerning the Triforce, as there are only a few games where we actually obtain it. Usage in ALttP and SS suggest that you can use it repeatedly for wishing. WW shows that it can disappear after a single wish. In my opinion, touching the Triforce without conquering it from others triggers the test of balance. If your three virtues are imbalanced, you only receive your highest virtue part. Conquering parts allows you to make a wish anyway. So here are two theories about wish granting.

>condition based functionality
The method of obtaining the Triforce influences the amount of wishes you receive. If you conquer it, you receive one wish and it disappears. It might relocate to the Sacred Realm. If you obtain it with balanced virtues, you receive an unlimited amount of wishes, as you are the type of person who's meant to receive it.

>location based functionality
The method of obtaining doesn't matter. If you use the Triforce outside of its designated resting place, it disappears after a wish and relocates to that space. This space may change over time and for quite a time after SS, it's been the Sacred Realm.

Since those things are unclear, I think we cannot conclude definite rules about splitting either. We have two cases of "conquering" and two cases of "obtaining".

There are also unknown factors concerning its powers. Ganondorf theorized in OoT that Link only made it that far with the Triforce of Courage. I doubt that as it didn't "appear" before the end game, so there's no prior visible activation process.

Depending on how you interpret certain sequences, you could theorize that all pieces grant shape changing powers. We know for sure that the Triforce of Power can make you (almost) immortal. It may allow shape changing, if that wasn't a power Ganondorf had previously. We know that the Triforce of Courage either grants shape changing or alters it. We know almost nothing about the powers of the Triforce of Wisdom.
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Slow day, /lozg/?
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>>147259205
Toon Zelda wasn't in Phantom Hourglass was she? They said PH was going to be in the pack so they'll include Linebeck right? Right? Please don't take this from me.
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Is the anon with the Ghost Ships dungeon and Poe Fleet Captain Boss idea still here? That was a neat idea.
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>>147262309
>Toon Zelda wasn't in Phantom Hourglass was she?
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>>147262713
That's not Zelda. It's that pirate dude from WW
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>>147262305
Maybe. You can ameliorate that by joining into the lorefag discussion like >>147262158 or mechanicsfag discussion like >>147251528
Your pick.
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>>147262713
Tetra isn't Zelda, she's actually a good character.
All of Zelda's alter egos>Zelda
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>>147262862
Tetra is Zelda you didn't-play-the-game fag
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>>147246791
How would you merge timelines if each branch is centuries apart from each other?
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>>147259205
>Still no Groose

Fucking pathetic.

At least we're getting Yuuga.

It's so obvious we're getting Ravio and Toon Zelda because Koei wants to reuse assets and little else.
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>>147263042
IDK, ST Zelda was pretty good. So is OoT, even though the alter-ego helps that.

The rest are fucking boring or bad, though.
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>>147263660
What if he's a binus character? There's one slot leftover for the 3ds version,
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>>147263631
I think the obvious implication was that it would be set far enough along that this wouldn't be a problem
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>>147263042
I gotta know what hardcore Tetra-fags think of the bit where she actually complies with Daphnes' request to stay in the castle like a good little damsel. Even though this is some serious bullshit because she 1) doesn't know this old dude and has no obligation or emotional connection to him, 2) is a pirate, and by default gives no fucks about authority besides her own 3) is willing and able to assist Link(who she actually does know and care about) in fighting Ganon.

I like Wind Waker, but that's just flat out bad writing. She has a nice big pirate ship and a crew of goons, he's a dinky little red boat. Hell, you're a ghost, just possess Tetra's ship, dumbass.
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>>147264438
That always struck me as weird too. If they really needed her to not be a part of the next story segment they should have given her a real reason to stay behind, not "the weird old dude said he's my dad, I completely believe him and am now totally emotionally reliant on him".
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>>147264438
I'm not a hardcore Tetrafag but I liked her, and that moment was pretty dumb in an otherwise great game. Hopefully BotW "breaking Zelda conventions" applies to rescuing damsels too, that shit got old a long time ago. Giving Link some decent characterization would be a nice change too but my hopes aren't as high for that.
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>>147264438
She was in shock over having a ghost magically change her clothing for her. She could feel the princess thong sawing her ass in half.
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>>147265253
That makes sense
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>>147264438
I'm going to go with the "she remembered" plot device and decided the best course of action was to stay in the castle so that Ganon wouldn't be able to capture her and become more powerful since he'd have 2 piece of the triforce

Did everyone forget about that?
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>>147265401
No one remembers that.
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Why is Link Between Worlds readily available for $20?

Was it not that good?

Link to the Past is my favorite Zelda ever
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>>147265253
>she was in shock
I don't buy it. Why would finding out she's a princess be any more shocking than getting swiped by a giant bird?

>>147265401
>the best course of action was to stay in the castle so that Ganon wouldn't be able to capture her
Except, she got captured precisely because she was left completely alone and unguarded in the castle.
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>>147241117
all of this leads to an addiction to blue potions, which in turn leads to "blue outs"using her position to force her subordinates into sexual debauchery, as well as poor princess zelda
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>>147265875
I thought it sold gangbusters and that's why they hoofed the price in the balls so soon.
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>>147265154
>Giving Link some decent characterization would be a nice change too but my hopes aren't as high for that.

Well he's officially called Link from in the dialogue, so that probably eliminates us from having the option to name him with our save files. Also a small step from Nintendo finally beginning to recognize and accept him as his own character and not a blank-slate avatar.

Then again I don't think he was ever meant to be a true blank-slate which is what so many people misinterpreted from Miyamoto and Aonuma. He's more or less a callback to classic RPG characters where you didn't just create your own special OC snowflake like you do in so many RPGs todat, but you were given a character and you had to imagine what it was like to be in their shoes. That kind of deal. But people are idiotic and they still don't get it.
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>>147265980
>forces
>"poor Princess Zelda"
Dude, Impa hangs out in Zelda's room as she sleeps. Which judging from Zelda's total non-reaction, is normal.
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>>147253068
I didn't find it overly short compared to any other Zelda game.
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Remember this stupid boss guys?
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>/vg/ LOZG steadily scrolling by
>cup of tea
>OITB streaming
>HW on off-screen play
Fucking comfy.
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>>147266627
Who's your Warrior-fu, anon?
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>>147266757
Go Fi or go home, imo.
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>>147266757
Link
Darunia is a close second
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>>147255225
and so a cleansing flame ran through the land with, the only sound that could be heard over the roar of the fire was "HEYA
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>implying the Sheikah made all the magitek around Hyrule
>robots everywhere
>implying the Sheikah made the Ancient Robots
So what's the over/under on BotW having a robot girl character? Machine waifus have been a long time coming for this franchise, honestly.
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>>147256315
if it had deadhand that would be true
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>>147251528
For some reason, I've always liked the idea of an outdoor dungeon. But then it wouldn't really be a dungeon, so I dunno. I'm making it up as I go along.
>Dungeon name
???
>Theme/Aesthetic
Would have to be forest, with trees acting as walls, with an open ceiling
>Item obtained
A nature-related rune, that controls the weather in a small area
>Types of puzzles
Water and buoyancy puzzles
>Boss
An ancient bipedal robot, roughly the same size as Koloktos.
It would be almost invincible until you make it rain in the room, causing it to malfunction.
As it rains, puddles form on the ground. once it's down to half health,
it tears trees out of the ground, and uses them as a makeshift umbrella, i guess.
then you freeze the puddles on the floor to make it slip, and when it's down, you use lightning to strike the robot.
repeat the cycle 3 times. each lightning strike, the robot gets faster,
until the third, which fries its circuits, killing it.
Thoughts?
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>>147267296
FUCK Deadhand.
Just FUCK IT.
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>>147255643
I didn't have an N64 when I was little so I only played the 3DS remakes recently.

I played MM3D and then OoT3D, and maybe I should have played them in release order instead, because while I loved MM3D I found OoT3D really dull and disappointing by comparison.
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>>147266757
Midna
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>>147267469
>Midna
>69 at the end of the post number
hehehehehe......
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>>147267296
Am I the only person that doesn't find Dead creepy or unsettling? He was just kind of there as a kid.
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>>147267590
>hehehehehe......
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>>147267735
graphics didn't really do it justice, basically a flesh blob that you have to use yourself as bait to fight
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>>147267291
The Sheikah may have not made the Ancient Robots, but it's very clear that area has some type of eventual Sheikah Connection with the Timeshift Stones, and we do know the Sheikah clearly have technology, same as the Twili and Oocoo. Both of which have Sheikah Symbols as well, and the Sheikah were appointed by the Goddesses. Sheikah may as well be Shadow/Warpers from space, a sister race to the Golden Goddesses, Book of Mudora does say they came from a Deep Nebula.
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>>147267456
Gee, that's funny you say that. I played Ocarina when it first came out, but never owned MM and only rented it and played it up to Woodfall temple.

I recently got a 3DS and snatched up MM3D because I'd been looking for a copy for ages (only after I got it is the original cart freaking everywhere now, go figure). Fucking loved it. I'm only halfway through, but playing it recaptured the magic for me, no exaggeration.

I gave in and got OoT3D for the hell of it, even though I still own the original cart (with Ganon's red blood and Muslim chanting and everything). Felt like I was going through the motions. Kind of dull. I got a little more into it as of late, as I just decided to keep going, but it's not 100% there for me, I don't know why.

And yet I'm still playing it.
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>>147267906
I mean, I get what it is, I see art and updated versions of it. I don't know, just doesn't really bother me honestly. Redeads humping the back of my head bothers me more.
>>147267882
Saria, Midna pls, you're making me wish life wasn't so suffering.
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>>147266235
Those old RPG characters suck though, it's like the worst of both worlds with none of the benefits. You can imagine being in the shoes of a fleshed out character too it's not that hard. I hope they're realizing why it's a bad idea and moving forward, I want to actually care about Link for once, WW and LA DX were probably the closest it got for me.
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>>147267941
>Sheikah may as well be Shadow/Warpers from space, a sister race to the Golden Goddesses, Book of Mudora does say they came from a Deep Nebula.
... I, just want a not-warforged waifu. The hell is this nonsense now?
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>>147268058
dunno man redeads were basically just golems, no idea what the fuck the deadhand was
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>>147268056
The Forest Temple was a pretty fucked up place when you look back on it, not Shadow Temple levels, but fucked up regardless.
>>147268127
You got 'Shit gets convoluted, all doors are timelines'.
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>>147267291
We had already had Fi for waifufags and technically Ghirahim for husbandofags, Considering the huge tech theme going on in this game, I can see them doing it again.
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>>147268248
I always assumed they were just like a weird variant of Floormaster or some type of fucked up experiment beneath the well by Bongo-Bongo before he was executed.
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>>147267314
I love the idea of semi or mostly ourdoor dungeons.
Any thing that can be a level is fine btw; we just use "Dungeon" as shorthand for it to describe a quintessentially Zelda-type map.

>and when it's down, you use lightning to strike the robot
How do you like >>147254242 (You) # for that?

>The Boss itself.
I've always had this idea for a forest Boss be "Odolwa Jr." son of the first Odolwa. Purely because I'm in love with the sounds that motherfucker made. This ime Odolwa Jr.is way fucking more erratic and hard to pin down than his father. (Your forest automaton is by no means bad though.)
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>>147268056
>Felt like I was going through the motions

That was how I felt while playing OoT3D even though I hadn't even played OoT before.

I'm not sure what it is that just makes it feel choreish to me. In fact it's ridiculous that it should feel like that compared to a game that literally makes you do the same shit over and over.
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>>147267291
>>147267941
>Kakariko village is a Sheikah village
>Has creepy well with torture rooms and Silent Hill monsters
>Graveyard with massive temple in the back, like something out of a Lovecraft tale
>Hyrule's bloody history of greed and hatred
Is there ever any more evidence that the Sheikah can't be trusted?

Interestingly enough, I'm playing OoT and decided to talk to a Goron while wearing the Mask of Truth, and he says "that mask is unpleasant, goodbye."

Makes me think the Gorons have bad history with the Sheikas.
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>>147268598
I think it's because Ocarina is so straightforward and basic, while Majora is not.
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>>147268612
Anon, you should totally trust them, look they have holograms!

Maybe the Sheikah are responsible for the Gorons no longer having a Mountain Goddess. They are the only ones without a Racial Deity, until ST at least.
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>>147268293
Seriously, they made the Master Sword into a cute girl. Just give us a robot waifu already.

And again, it wouldn't even be hard. She'd essentially be a Zelda flavored warforged.
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>>147268428
Genuinely forgot about the idea of Shock
arrows.
That lightning strike via sword would work too, I guess. and if you don't have shock arrows, you can just use the rune as a backup with a cooldown. that's what BotW is about anyway. different ways to do the same thing.
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>>147268612
The Sheikah are loyal servants of the royal family. The Shadow Temple is the way it is because that's where they did all morbid morally repugnant stuff that was necessary to protect Hyrule. The Well is just where some weird dude kept all his stuff.

>>147268750
The Sheikah don't seem to have a racial deity either.
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>>147255643
>>147267456
It's interesting how the tables have turned over time, I remember when MM came out there was a fair bit of backlash that it was so different from OoT, and OoT was considered to be pretty much perfection and clearly superior. Now everyone one I know who played them for the first time recently favors MM much more. I wonder if it's something wrong with the 3DS version of OoT or if it really is all just nostalgia.
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>>147269352
Why don't ou expand on this weather control item? You implied that lightning control would be part of it's mechanics.
I'm interested. Can you fully flesh it out?
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>>147269686
>But this fella, he had a different way of doing things...
That's a euphemism for he had had the entire set of Hostel inside his house.
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>>147267882
glad you knew what I was referencing
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>>147270038
I like the theory that the guy who lived where the well is, is actually Bongo Bongo. The idea is that he was a criminal of some sort(probably kidnapping people and doing stuff to them in his fucked up house), and was executed by being hung upside down, his hands cut off, and his truth seeing eye removed.
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>>147265939
>Except, she got captured precisely because she was left completely alone and unguarded in the castle.
The king was not not a clever man
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>>147269686
>The Sheikah don't seem to have a racial deity either.
They do, themselves, Majora, Fused Shadow, they made their own Gods with Magi-Tek
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>>147270607
He was a Thief at least. It's why his hands were cut off. Probably snuck into houses stealing their things and possibly kidnapping and torturing/experimenting on the people.

His hands were inevitably cut off for being a thief, and his head because they thought he was able "to see things no other could", but it was just the Lens of Truth. And now he haunts the lands as an abomination.

I always liked Bongo-Bongo, the one Temple boss that wasn't the cause of Ganondorf in any way, it was Link's fault for busting the well in the first place and weakening the seal.
>>147270826
Hey man, what's more important? Guarding your like great great granddaughter, or being a boat? I think the answer is obvious.
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Playing through TP-HD, and I noticed that they have the Darkhammer the same skin texture as The Imprisoned had in SS.
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>>147265939
>Why would finding out she's a princess be any more shocking than getting swiped by a giant bird?
because monsters are normal stuff in that world
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>>147265939
You obviously don't understand how existential shock works anon.
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>>147271421
Brrrrp, magic triumph fork!
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>>147269982
Alright, i'll try.
It can only work outdoors, obviously.
it would be a bit like an AoE item, where a certain region would be affected.
It would work like bomb runes, one for each type.

Sun is the neutral, melts snow into puddles, which dry up.
the snow setting would freeze water, allowing you to push things across water, or walk on ice instead of swim. You would need warm clothes if you use this function, because the whole area becomes cold.
The rain mode has a secondary function, the lightning.
If you use the rain rune once, it just rains. But the second use causes a lightning strike.
That's all I can think of how it would be right now, I might work on it more later.
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>>147270607
>>147271170
As a kid I was actually so unnerved and fascinated by the Windmill guy. His overly cheery personality, the weird music, his demonic anger later on, and the fact his windmill is connected to underground catacombs underneath the graveyard. So fascinated was I that I actually had written down a headcanon where he is a complete sicko and robs graves at night, taking them back home through the tunnels.
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>>147271170
Dude must've really loved the sick samba beat though. I mean, Bongo Bongo is built up as this powerful abomination that kicked both Link and Sheik's asses, one that you have to chase through a creepy torture pit filled with horrid undead monsters where the protectors of Hyrule did their dark work to defend the realm, and the first thing it does when you finally reach it's lair... is start playing the drums. Okay.
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>>147271901
And visually?
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>>147271924
To be fair, he probably does do that.
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>>147272025
Maybe it was a leftover from his time when he lived. He sacrificed people to his Dead Hand abomination (his first victim) and just danced around and played the Bongos while they were being devoured and he bathed in the riches he stole.

I don't know, I'm just trying to think of random shit.
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Which boots were you supposed to wear while fighting Bongo Bongo?
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>>147272210
Barefoot
Gotta feel the beat in your body
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>>147272067
Felt the same way about Happy Mask Man, too. I remember wanting to make some shit up about him but never did.
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>>147272210
You're supposed to wear the Hover Boots in case you get bounced off so you can recover quick.
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>>147272383
I always assumed he was the God of the Dead, giving masks to people to ease their spirits and knows the Song of Healing.
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>>147272045
what do you mean, the runes themselves? Because these are on the Shiekah slate.
The Rain one would probably just be a raindrop.
The sun one would just be sun. T
he cryostasis one is a snowflake already though, so the snow one would probably be either an ice cube or a low thermometer.

In the world, it would summon/dispel clouds, I guess.
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>>147270982
We did what was necessary.

It was all for the family and the people.

We apologize for nothing besides our failure.
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>>147273090
Apologize for nothing beside my own failure too.
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More Fi when?
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>>147266757
Midna
Zant is growing on me though.
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>>147273675
DELETE THIS
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>>147273090
Friends? Is that you?
Do you want to play again?
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>>147273090
>implying the their service to the Royal Family isn't a facade

Sure, maybe some of them stayed in Hyrule, felt sympathy for the primitives of the land; help out and integrated into society over time. But the fact that their technology is present in all timelines to some degree, and that it was implemented to help the hero says something else. They run the show more than the Royal Family ever will.
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>>147272025
>>147272190
As a percussionist, let me assure you; we're pretty fucked up in general.
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Why do you think TP and SS had no magic meter?
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>>147275778
They didn't find it necessary for the gameplay elements each game had.
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>One of the best antagonists in the series.
>Only thing hes gotten after MM was a feature in HW and a shitty TW mod.

I just want another game with him in it. His chaotic nature combined with ill intent made an interesting setting and just the sheer mindfuckery he did in MM was great. Maybe one day?
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>>147275778
Probably didn't work well with TP's items honestly. I mean you don't have many items to use them period anyways other than the Dominion Rod and it's useless for the majority of time you have it. Probably originally constantly drained magic as you controlled things, not great, same with the Magic Armor. No real use for just two items that are largely useless and optional.

You can still see some leftover with the Chu stuff.
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>>147273675
UNHEALTHY FI
WHAT HAVE YOU DONE TO HER
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Speaking of Kakariko, what ever happened to the boy in the Graveyard? When you come back as an adult, his house is now the Bazaar, and there's no grown-up version of him.

Did he dead?
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>>147277139
>his house is now the Bazaar
He's the big chap running it. Previous owner died of huge-belly-itis
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>>147276084
Overrated as fuck.
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Just got the master sword in albw
This game is so dang fun so far
The dungeons have been short and pretty easy so far, but I'm still having a great time
Do the Lorule dungeons get more challenging?
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>>147276084
I mean, it kind of died/was exorcised at the end. It's not like Ganondorf with a bunch of minions that want to resurrect him, it's just kind of gone now. Maybe an origin story though, I don't believe the one from the manga. It's my favorite antagonist (if you're counting the mask and skullkid as a unit) out of the ones we've had so far but the fact that they were capable of it makes me wonder if they can make another really good one, that's why I want to see new antagonists, if they only used the same ones then we wouldn't have seen Majora in the first place.
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>>147276084
I don't trust Neo-Nintendo to pull it off properly honestly. Chances are they'll ruin his lovecraftian mystery.

We definitely need another villain like him though. Something that's just completely destructive and malicious to the point where its motives are incomprehensible. I hope Calamity Ganon delivers in that aspect.
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>>147277139
They go to Labrynna or Holodrum after Ganondorf takes over.

Speaking of which, why doesn't Ganondorf ever want to control those countries really? It's always mostly just Hyrule.
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>>147277287
Whether that's true or not, it's still at the top of the Zelda antagonists. But that's not saying much.
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>>147277496
>They go to Labrynna or Holodrum
fakkin wat
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>>147277356
Somewhat, not much. ALBW has probably one of the easiest, shortest dungeons in Zelda history though in Lorule.

I don't see how anybody can like Thieve's Hideout, it's pathetically short and simple to the point it's insulting.
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>>147277623
Where else would they go? They're not in Hyrule clearly. Ganondorf seemingly never fucked over Kakariko, Link and the Windmill Dude are the ones that did that.
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>>147277639
I loved Theif's hideout, because it wasn't a standard "hidden temple" type of dungeon, it was more like an espionage mission, and yes, I also liked it because it was quick and short. I want to get the dungeon over with and get back to the overworld, which is always my favorite part.
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>>147277496
Hyrule had the most dealings with the Gerudo, so it was a natural first choice to take over, especially since he was initially doing the whole trick them through diplomacy route to get near the Triforce. Since he got beat in that attempt, and since the Triforce is usually in Hyrule, and since he's influenced by Demise's curse to specifically go after the Hylian Royal Family, whenever he comes back he just goes after Hyrule again.
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What are you fine anons up to today?
I'm playing OoT to beat it for the first time.
Just beat that giant dinosaur for the ruby.
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>>147277374
I want to see this thing again. I really loved the Boss Fight with him and Linebeck's inclusion within it.
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>>147277936
Spending an entire lazy day at home and will probably continue my playthrough of OoT3D or Zelda 1 later tonight.
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>>147277496
Do we even know if they existed back then? Did it say how far back into the past you traveled in OoA? Maybe they were recently founded.
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>>147277815
I liked the attempt at making it unique and that I do appreciate it, but it's over in like 5-7 minutes that you don't even get a time to appreciate it. I just found it stupidly simple and insulting, which says a lot about Zelda dungeons for the most part as much as I love a lot of them.
>>147277835
Fair enough. Labrynna and Holodrum probably just sit around and laugh at Hyrule...and then they get flooded right along with them.
>>147277936
Right now I'm eating (it's nothing important), been playing LA on and off lately, trying to get screenshot albums of all the games, unfortunately that means I have to replay through AoL (I got half way through 2 weeks ago forgetting to take screenshots like a dumbass) and OoS (beat it last year but didnt take any).
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>>147278120
I don't recall it saying, but I imagine they existed. I imagine they were lands created right along with Hyrule and the Parallel Worlds and Realms by the Golden Goddesses. Lorule and Hyrule just being their enter/exit points so that's where the Triforces are.
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>>147277936
Masturbating.
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>>147277936
3DS or emulator? The response to 3DS has been mostly negative so I'm wondering if it's an issue with the remake or if it just hasn't aged well.
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>>147278629
I'm playing on an emulator. Seems to be working fine on my shit heap of a PC.
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>>147276084
I want the Mask itself wearable like I describe in http://pastebin.com/aDhkvC1E
A game with Fierce Deity as the antag would be cash as fuck.
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>>147277936
Going to go through the Sky Temple in TP at some point.
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>>147278629
>The response to 3DS has been mostly negative
Objectively horseshit.
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>>147278161
How big is the legend of zelda world? I didnt even know other countries existed. Then again, i only played minish cap, link to the past, and part of TP.
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>>147277936
Watching the new MM 100% speedrun world record https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jN-xK0zojQk
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>>147278629
3D is the best version of OoT
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>>147279340
Ohhh I guess I know what I'm watching tonight.
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>>147279340
GROOSE
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>>147279248
Out of everyone I've met who played it, only one has liked it enough to finish it. So 1 out of 8 or so. If you have evidence to the contrary feel free to present it, I actually love the game it just seems to have a negative response from new players based on my own observations, but anecdotal evidence can be pretty flawed.
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>>147279119
>that picture
I don't even HAVE this picture. What the fuck happened?
Pic related is what I meant to post...
>Duplicate file exists here
Shit
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>>147278953
Does it hold up? Always interesting to hear about it from the perspective of fresh eyes.
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>>147279315
>Light World Countries
Hyrule
Labrynna
Holodrum
Subrosia (underneath Holodrum)
Skylands
>Parallel World Countries
Lorule
Termina
>Realms
Twilight Realm
Sacred Realm/Dark World
Ocean King Realm
>Dream Worlds
Koholint Island
>Post Flood Countries
Great Sea
New Hyrule

I believe that's all in the main games, Tingle's Rupees has 3 unnamed continents itself, and I believe there is a continent or two in some other spinoff games, I remember the original manual or comic for AoL at a place called Calatia to the west of AoL's Hyrule (which should be the Hyrule we know, or mostly).

You can also argue that Gerudo is it's own country, it's pretty damn big and we never see all of it as well, that and people don't have pointed ears as well and seemingly their own random ass culture.
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>>147278629
OoT is not a game that ages particularly well.
A LOT of what makes it such a great game is that it innovated half of today's industry standard mechanics and pretty much invented several genres of games.
While it's a good game in its own right, its actual gameplay isn't above that of other great Zelda titles and the graphics simply don't hold up.
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>>147279157
>Sky Temple
Triggered
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>>147279628
Seriously, a simple google search will provide all the evidence possible.
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>>147280006
I remember liking it fine. Curious to see if that will continue to be the case
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>>147279628
It's a pretty old game, so even if they make it shiny and new, it still contains elements of older game design that some people today just wouldn't find as fun. I think putting a home console game on a handheld might also contribute, since there's a different design philosophy there, but most people I know play their handheld consoles sitting at home anyway, so maybe it doesn't matter as much.
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>>147279628
This is my lazy, but accurate counterpoint.
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>>147279819
>What the fuck happened?
JAPANESE MOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOT!
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>>147280021
Most of the responses I'm seeing are from people who played the old version already. I'm talking about new players specifically. And user reviews aren't a good source because they will draw the people who are invested enough in the series to leave a review and then a few that hate it enough that it motivates them to talk shit about it.
>>147280228
Again, the people who rated it would most likely be familiar with the original.

Was I unclear in my meaning? I'm not talking about overall, I'm talking about people who never touched the N64 games and aren't familiar with them.
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>>147277936
Grinding through TPHD. Finished Snowpeak and returned to civilization. Collecting hearts for my wolf amiibo. I'm trying to resist from playing total completionist, but I just can't resist murdering every single Poe I see.
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>>147242781
I'm late but if you're still here; have you ever heard of gbatemp?
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>>147280476
>I'm talking about new players specifically
Players from a younger generation are provably worse at gaming. They need sign posting, handholding, constant reward etc

A good example would be Dishonred. It was built on "Thief" ideals, which lead to this: >http://www.pcgamer.com/dishonored-clues-hints/

The fact of the matter is that OoT has aged well from a gameplay point of view. It's perfectly competent and enjoyable, but it's less flashy and showy than newer titles.
It's visuals, story telling, pacing and mechanics however are pretty much etched in time. No pun intended.

I have a younger brother, who can't finish OoT or MM, but he can blow through Wind Waker and Twilight Princess because those games hold your hand a lot more and make Link much more competent as a combatant. They shower you with constant trinkets and rewards. You need to do less, to get more.

There are many more reasons that can attest to why older gamers can adapt to more schools of game design than newer players.
But people thinking older games are bad because they are being criticised by new players are being ridiculous when the game is provably solid.
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>>147281343
I'm not sure that's the issue though, at least one of the people I'm talking about beat AoL years before I could, he just didn't have an N64. I'm not close enough with the other people to know their Zelda history but they'd all been playing since around the same time as me (SNES days). But people who emulate OoT seem to like it better, that's why I'm curious if it's an issue with the remake.
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>>147277936
Contemplating suicide.

I'll probably hold it off for BoTW though, at least.
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>>147279860
I enjoy it. I mean it's obviously an older game, but I still find it fun. Just wish i had an actual controller instead of this shitty keyboard mapping
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>>147281760
The remake by and large improves the original. Here's a quick list I lifted from a forum.

-Improved graphics
-Extremely accurate Gyroscope aiming, but you can use traditional controls if you want to
-Surprisingly great 3d features
-Iron + Hover boots are now inventory items (so you don't have to keep pausing)
-4 item slots + an individual space for an ocarina
-New set of glitches
-C stick is nice and accurate
-MMQ = Mirrored Master Quest. Master quest, except the entire game is mirrored
-Boss gauntlet mode = Able to fight bosses whenever you want, beat them all again for a continuous boss rush

The only reason I can think they don't like the remake, if they like the original, is that they didn't like the game on a handheld.
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>>147281835
Anon, what would Saria think? You stop that right now.
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She is going to be BoTW, right?
Just with a different name, right?
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>>147283085
Don't hold your breath.
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>>147283085
No.
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>>147277936
Playing HW Adventure mode to try and get some good weapons.

FUCKING CUCCOS STOP RUNNING INTO MY ATTACKS REEEEE
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>>147283085
I imagine. With villages being confirmed, she's bound to be in at least one.
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>>147283356
ya but what about Malon
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>>147282290
I haven't played the 3DS version so I can't judge for myself, it's just a curious trend I've seen.
> if they like the original
They hadn't played it, I'm specifically referring to people who never touched the N64 games but were familiar with the series to varying degrees. Of course I don't think the fans in general had a negative response, it's the most popular game.
>they didn't like the game on a handheld.
Maybe, I remember one of the people saying it felt clunky, I asked him if MM3D felt clunky too and they said no so maybe they fine-tuned the controls between the releases? I think the general criticism was that it felt tedious though.
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>>147283521
I said no.
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new companions!
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>BotW Link reaches the ruins of Skyloft
>Clearly long since abandoned.
>Comes across some ancient human remains.
>She waited for you Link.
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>>147283579
Yes.
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>>147283664
Sorry, he's too busy right now to wear you.
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>>147283647
Does she still have my items?
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>>147283085
No, but we might get a character knock-off that's like her or Malon. They were just Marin knockoffs either way.

In terms of recurring characters, I'm expecting Beedle and Tingle for sure. Maybe Linebeck.
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>>147283085
Let's face it, Malon is already a rehash of a rehash, and then she got copied into Cremia and Romani because MM reused as many assets and characters from OoT as they thought they could get away with. I'm hardly surprised they got left behind with the N64.

Nothing against the girls, though; I'd totally be down with Marin, Malon, Cremia, and Romani all as one big happy family, running this huge ranch with all the cows, horses, and Cuccos you'd ever want to get trampled by.
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>>147283876
Of course.
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>>147283750
>There's a loud snapping noise as Link disappears
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>>147283936
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>>147283876
Her ghost still guards her booth.
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>>147283932
>character knock-off
That's what I want
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>>147283956
Good, I'll just take those and be on my way.
>>147284019
Alright now, Midna is mine. Gonna have to back off there manlet.
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>>147279340
>"I'd like to get sub 4:55:00 at least."
>4:55:59 final time.
kek
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>>147279910
Thanks anon. I always wondered how big the place is.

>>147283085
I wonder if she is going to sell milk like in the minish cap.
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>>147284234
>Thanks anon. I always wondered how big the place is.

No problem anon.
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>>147284317
>No problem anon.
Anon is that you?
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>>147284504
I'm not Anon, I'm Anon.
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>>147262158
The Triforce of Courage is just a thing that the hero has, it might grant you some form of magical resistance to the other pieces?
What's your source on the shape changing powers?
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>>147285834
Oh my mistake Anon, sorry. Do you know where Anon's at, Anon?
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>>147284186
It was 4:54:59 wasn't it?
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So what's the deal with these things?
are they just for collecting?
this is like the 11th i've gotten
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I FINALLY DID IT!
I COMPLETED MY POKEDEX!
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>>147286303
You give them to a family in Kakariko and you get stuff back, like a bigger wallet, piece of heart, etc. based on how many you collect.
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>>147286303
Check Kakariko as you do and you'll progressively get shit. Good shit
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>>147272210
Iron boots so you don't get sent flying
>>147277936
Working on my superslides and bomb hovers
Eventually going to look up the badwarp properly, get it figured out and do an any% run of OoT
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>>147276806
Get your healthy/thicc meme out of here
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>>147288423
>healthy/thicc
What are you talking about?
She's unhealthy because she's been turned into a stupid frail human
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Holy fuck this guy is slow.
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>>147289590
mweep mweep mweep mweep mweep
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>>147289590
mwe-
>>147289650
Fucking damn it, you beat me to it.
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>>147289650
>>147290219
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ROuFFdxBLE
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>>147290219
Could the HMS be the Sheikah God of Secrets? Red hair and eyes, Mask of Truth, masks in general as a mean of hiding your true self, being himself hidden in plain sight, not affected by the time magic of Hylia's Ocarina of Time...
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>>147290219
First time I've ever managed to get it in first, for what it's worth.
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>>147283932
>>147284119
>Implying that crescent island on the BotW map isn't actually Koholint
>implying the LA DLC in Warriors wasn't to get us ready
You may be seeing Marin very soon.
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>>147291464
Are you me?
You think like me.
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>>147291524
I just stole that idea from a couple threads ago.
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>>147291723
That may well have been me. But I already know there's two other anons that think the same.
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>>147290613
He can also teleport and fade and reappear out of thin air.
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>>147290613
Grim Reaper. Carrying souls away, in the form of masks.
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>>147291464
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YkGJmFjfx6Q
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>>147292369
>When he asked Link if he had met a terrible fate, he was talking to the deku mask.
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Oh god.
The whole third dungeon PULSES.
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>>147292894
Jabu Jabu? Yeah it's great.
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>>147292989
Not him, but re-playing the game on 3DS and I forgot the cool beat that dungeon had. Don't remember it on the N64 version (but I grew up with a mono TV).
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Sheik should be a recurring boss fight. Zelda wants to test you to be sure you're the real deal, so she uses her sick ninja powers to attack you.
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>>147290613
His eyes are black, and red hair isn't a Sheikah thing as far as I know. He's probably some neutral demi-god or just a really strange and powerful Hylian.
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>>147293520
Hell yeah, I want to thrust my sword into Zelda all day long.
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>>147293715
Forgot pic, but yeah his eyes look black to me.
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>>147292369
That's not how masks work
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>>147293876
Happy Mask Man is an evil man. Please don't post him.
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Goodnight, anons
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>>147294265
>milk bottle half full
I'M TRIGGERED
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Playing WWHD, first time playing WW.

>spend 60+ minutes trying to figure out how to get Tingle out of jail
>spend 90+ minutes shitting around Dragon Roost Island because I didn't think to put water in the fucking bottle

Welp, this anon confirmed for massive fucking retard

Though not as bad as
>waste hours wandering around in ALBW because while trying to get over the gap to Zora's Domain I completely forgot I had the Merge ability that is the main fucking gimmick of the game, and thought I had to find speedy shoes or a jumping ability somewhere first
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>>147294079
Isn't it?
>Aonuma: We’re talking about masks that were created to contain the memories of people who have died.
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>>147294265
Goodnight, Jonah.
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>>147294106
>evil
Only in the manga. In the game he was pretty impartial, dude just wanted Link to complete an errand for him as a favor for returning Link to normal. He was even kind of supportive in the end.
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>>147294346
I thought it was half empty.
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>>147294395
What other ones have you played? It always surprises me when WW is one of the last games people get around to, since it comes up as one of the most commonly recommended.
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>>147295030
>>147294346
Lets just all agree that it's completely backwash.
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>>147295654
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>>147295779
Why is this a thing?
No! I mean c'mon!
Does it come with Choco Cia flavour?
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>>147296359
>Does it come with Choco Cia flavour?
Thats all for link.
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>>147294412
I think that's how the transformation masks work but not all masks.

#notallmasks

But no seriously there's stuff like the chicken mask that just helps you march chickens. It's the sorrow of all the villagers and shit. The Fierce Deity isn't an actual person.
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>>147284504
Yeah that was me that wrote the countries, sorry I laid down to take a nap.
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>>147286520
That's pretty cool man, good job.
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Daily reminder that when you turn an Octorock upside down it becomes a Guardian.
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>>147297158
Daily reminder that Guardians are just mechanical Octoroks.

Daily reminder that there are probably other mechanical enemies too, just like the Mechanical Stalfos in SS.
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>>147294943
I wonder who could be behind this post.
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>>147297391
What are you implying, friendo?
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>>147297346
Oh god what will the Redeads look like?

There must be a massive grave level considering how many people in Hyrule must have died when Calamity Ganon took over.
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>>147298040
Like this, look anon, it has the same earrings and little swirl markings in the same place as the redeads.

Look at how happy he is, go on, go give him a hug.

You're now imagining that fucking the back of your head as it just smiles at you
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>>147294079
No shit, it's his maybe-valid-headcanon
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>>147298326
Is it weird that this only scares me because it reminds me of a chain chomp?
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>>147297906
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>>147298768
yes
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I'm going to make an attempt to draw out Hyrule properly with all of it's locations, (some obviously being the same place such as Sealed Grounds->Temple of Time).

So lets start off chronologically at least with the first two we know for sure, SS and OoT.

We know the Sealed Grounds becomes the Temple of Time, however the two don't match up, one faces South, the other West. If we look at ever other map, the Master Sword always faces South, with the exception of OoT, so we can rotate OoT's map properly to match up.

However, how do you guys want these to line up, should it be based solely on size of say the Sealed Grounds/Temple of time, or what?

I can draw them out based on size and show you what I have overlayed if you would like to give you an example, because things don't match up perfectly even still, but I thought this might be a fun community project either way and to get some neat discussion going.
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>No more new BotW content for at least another month
Someone just end my suffering
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>>147283085
I give her my dick for anything ! MARRY ME!
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>>147299205
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>>147299205
I started replaying Zelda from the NES game and I plan to try to play as many as I can. I'm also planning to start hiking nature trails like I used to when I was younger. The sense of nature in Breath of the Wild is amazing and made me stop wanting to be a shut in.
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Imagine all the comfy that's going to happen in BotW.
>sitting next to a campfire at night
>eating a flame-cooked meal
>fall asleep under the stars
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>>147298768
No, I used to be scared of him in 64 as a kid as well, but not in LA for instance, I thought he was cool there, same with Sunshine...well I think I was still technically a kid when Sunshine released, idk I was 13 maybe? The fuck did Sunshine even release?
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>>147299428
I dunno, unless there's more A.I companions, that just sounds lonely.
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Did Redeads traumatize you?
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>>147299748
I have something horrible to admit. When i was a kid I only rented OoT and never played through it normally. I remember once when I was camping in the middle of the woods (withi my parents nice camper, it wasn't like a tent or anything) I hooked up a TV and N64 becuase I was finally going to play OoT maybe 5 years after it was released. The Deku Plants scared me and I could never play it again. I was in the middle of the fucking woods though to be fair. I'm pretty sure the TV stopped working anyways...
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>>147299748
When I was a kid, around 5-6 I used to have a recurrent dream about zombies and corpses in an underground complex and there being green acid around this maze like tunnel.

So you can only imagine my shock playing OoT and seeing all the Redeads around Green Acid (Song of Day/Night), the one place where you have to collect Silver Rupees (maybe that was MM), it was just horrifying.

I'm fine with them now though, they're neat.
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>>147299586
Ah well, different strokes and all that
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>>147299748
Usually i would enter any area and just exterminate anything there. For the redeads, I just avoided them like the plague. I only attacked them if I had to.
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AH
UUUGH
UUUGH
AH
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>>147299748
They did. As a child those thing scared the hell outta me. I remember nervously playing the song that stuns then and running like hell everytime I saw them. The one time I got caught on kakariko's graveyard I felt like my heart would brust.
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>>147299748
I legit could not play OoT until my teens because of how fucking terrified I was of those things once I realized what exactly they were.
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>>147299084
Here is what we got so far, SS's map has to be stretched for it to line up probably, but as you know of SS' map, nothing else lines up entirely properly, as is the case for most Hyrules, so we can likely assume these things.

>Lake Floria is Lake Hylia
>Eldin Volcano is Death Moutain
>Faron Woods is Hyrule Field

But, in the case of Eldin Volcano, we see it itself needs to be tilted. Lanayru we can not worry too much about as the OoT desert is bigger than what we see, it's the only place not surrounded by mountains or forest in OoT, and we can even see it in-game being blocked by invisible walls.

So thoughts and opinions on where things should line up? This was done just relatively quickly.
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>>147299748
By some miracle of nature, no. I think they were overshadowed by dead hand.
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>>147300243
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>>147300243
I almost cried when that happened to me
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>>147299748
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vOqfsu12EGk
Fi taught them this.
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>>147298040
If they're really pushing the tech theme for this one, then I hope they're something like the worn-out synths from fallout. Or rather that's the firstmost example I could think of at the moment.

Maybe they were originally built to be service droids for nobles or the royal family and because of that they were built to have a strong, natural resemblance to hylians, humans; Sheikah and the like. But time has worn off their most of their outer skin, damaged their voice boxes, and severely impaired their movement. Then Calamity Ganon corrupts them, turning them into mindless zombie-like terminators. Instead of using screams to petrify Link, maybe they use like a built-in tazer gun or electric shock wave to stun him or something. But instead of their screams they make horrible clanking sounds when they shuffle about, and static screeches for their screams - like some weird Silent Hill kind of shit.

I won't happen though. Too scary for neo-Nintendo.
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>>147300486
Nobody has any thoughts or opinions?
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Kafei a cute, a CUTE!
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>>147300486
Have you looked at the Minish Cap map any? It is also archaic enough to have a landscape with unfamiliar names.
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>>147299748
Yes, but deadhand and wallmasters were worse.

They weren't the worst though. I was also playing games like Resident Evil and Silent Hill 1 and the like when I was a kid.
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>>147249621
I am you and you are me. Carry that with you wherever you go. Thank you, my friend. From here on out, you're Link.
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What characters do you hope will show up in BotW?
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>>147301349
Well I was going to focus on things we know for sure first, which was the Sealed Grounds/Temple of Time, and then move back to Minish Cap for us to try and figure things out.

I mean I would assume Hyrule Castle and Death Mountain are the same between it in OoT for instance. They're in relatively the same place (hard to judge because 2D maps are square for whatever reason).
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>>147279910
Fairly certain the Twilight Realm is the Sacred Realm.
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>>147301693
No.
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>>147301693
It's not, Sacred Realm entrance is above the Temple of Time for instance, whereas the Twilight Realm is off in the Gerudo Desert.

Twilight Realm was likely a realm made to govern certain laws by Nayru, I would imagine there is a Dusk Realm too that we'll never see, or at least logically speaking.
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>>147301693
>Let's banish the Interlopers to the place where the Triforce usually chills
Genius.
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Does anyone else have a problem finishing Zelda games? I don't know what's wrong with me. The only one I finished was Wind Waker when I was a kid. I grew up with LA and Oracle of Seasons when I was a kid but I didn't get very far at all. I never played OoT much only rented it.


A few years ago I bought MM3D and only got to the water dungeon and gave up before I finished it. I chalked it up to my own anal retentiveness. I felt like I had to get all the fairies and it drove me crazy. I tried going back to OoT n64 version a few months ago and I got to Jabu Jabu Belly.

I FINALLY beat a fucking Zelda game again with Minish Cap though and now I'm almost through the NES Zelda. I will fucking beat this one for once god damn.

I just can't pick up a game after I haven't played it in so long, and I must have been too young for the GB games or something. I can't be the only one right? It's so depressing starting all these games only to be totally lost when I come back to them unwilling to restart.
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>>147301759
>>147301876
>>147301881
Well now I'm confused because I spent a long time believing the other realms in OoT, TP and FSA were the same. I cant remember where I came to this conclusion though.
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We will get a Dogu enemy. Screenshot this.
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>>147301505
My man Vaati, whether Picori or full-on Demon Lord idfc
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>>147273675
That's what i would wish for if I had the Triforce
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>>147302114
Huh. TP mentions both the Twilight Realm and Secred Realm. Well fuck me.
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>>147301508
>>147300486
Thinkin'...
You are probably right about Faron Woods being Hyrule Field.

Eldin Volcano might be Death Mountain... but maybe not the same side of the mountain?

For Lake Floria, I somewhat doubt that it is Lake Hylia. It's the huge waterfall that seems out of place. It feels like the Zora's Domain to me. If you cave the roof in on the underground river, you basically have the winding river path that leads up to the Zora's domain.

Lanayru Desert probably is the Gerudo Desert. Gerudo Dragonflies are all over it, so the Gerudo already live somewhere in the area. OOT and WW paint a picture of the Gerudo lands once being plentiful but then being turned into a desert with harsh windstorms, which Skyward Sword basically shows directly in the Lanayru Desert.
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>>147302114
The Sacred Realm is a dimension that the Hyleans like to hide the Triforce in. In OOT and LTTP, Link and Ganon access it. Ganon turns it into the Dark World. TP shows it in the Interloper War cutscene.

The Twilight Realm is a different place, that is simply naturally dark. Thematically similar, but distinct.
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>>147302114
So far we only have three confirmed Realms (someone is free to correct me and please do if I'm wrong).

Twilight, Sacred, and Ocean King.

The Sacred houses the Triforce, where it is inevitably seized by Ganon in the Downfall Timeline and transformed into the Dark World, his own vision of Hyrule.

The Twilight Realm is just a realm of expanse and nothing, and ultimately Twili Settlements (Palace for instance) were built using some type of magnetic/anti-gravity devices, knowing their amount of technology.

The Ocean King, being just a random Wind Fish esque dream realm (but not a literally dream like the Wind Fish/Koholint) on the Great Sea.
>>147302336
Alright, let me draw up a quick new map and lets see what we got. Also could we assume Lake Floria is Zora's Domain, I mean at some point it means the Temple of Time has to be rotated completely and as we've seen, it's south in every single game but OoT (though WW would prove problematic since that means Forbidden Woods no longer matches up.
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>>147302553
And now I'm reading that the Dark World in FSA is unrelated to all the others? Man, fuck that.
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>>147291464
could someone please post the map image showing the island shape similarities? I cant find it.
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>>147302670
I always assumed that the Ocean King "realm" was just another location beyond the Great Sea.

Also, what about Termina/Lorule? And >>147302742
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>>147302742
I forget the game dialog, but it should be the same as in LTTP. FSA was never designed to make sense within game canon, or to really make sense at all. It's just a mix of elements stolen from all the other games.
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>>147302670
Considering the number of times things get destroyed in and between Zelda games, and the vast, often vague expanses of time between them, it's not unlikely that buildings can change location and orientation. Same goes for cities and any other manmade environments really.
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>>147302670
OOT had special plot reasons to move the ToT into town. The Sacred Grove is still in the woods and everything. At any rate, map placement is the least reliable thing in the games, may as well just draw something pretty and be sure to include everyplace.
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>>147301693
No way that it is. First the Sacred Realm had been virgin until Ganny took it after OoT, and there is this >>147301881, the interlopers fought a war to control the Triforce
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>>147302871
Parallel Worlds.

I'll give you my theory on the planet.

The Golden Goddesses descended upon a chaotic and demon infested world. They created Holodrum and beneath it Subrosia, and moved east, creating Labrynna, and further east creating Hyrule, likely imprisoning the demons below the earth.

As they departed, they created the Sacred Realm and the Triforce. Then they exited the Sacred Realm in a new void (opposite than exiting an already existing void into the Sacred Realm), and thus was born Lorule and it's upside down Triforce, they then created Termina, and began to link these Parallel Worlds with the Light Worlds they had just created. Through the Lost Woods, through various warp points, etc. The Sacred Realm being a type of pocket dimension area between the two.

From there they created certain realms for the two, Twilight for instance, likely in order to govern certain laws that would exist, I imagine a Dusk Realm, and Ocean Realm, etc. all exist as well in some capacity.

A chaotic demon world they descended upon, would give credence to how some Demons like Demise seem to be above the Goddesses magic at times and can't be properly killed off or whatever, they can only ultimately be imprisoned.

This is how I personally view it, it's nothing more than a theory, but think sort of Old Gods/Azeroth/Emerald Dream with the Demons/Light World/Parallel Worlds. I think that might be the easiest way to explain it.
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>>147301693
10/10
You convinced people that you were sincerely confused.
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>>147302871
Termina being a different dimension, comes originally from the Nintendo website. It's canon until they decided to make it different.
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>>147302670
>>147303023
Reminder that Hyrule regularly switches from landlocked to by an ocean, to a fucking island in FSA. I'd call the geography the one part of canon you can safely ignore.

>>147303172
>>147303286
No, you guys are right. I missed that part because I havent gotten far in TP
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>>147302989
That is true, but I was looking at it as "Only certain people can move the Master Sword" I can't imagine they can just pick the stuff up around it and move it, but maybe they can"
>>147303023
Well we know the Sealed Grounds becomes the Temple of Time, that much is for certain. The issue with the Sacred Grove is that a forest just happens to regrow around it due to it's absence and ruin. Same as the Lost Woods, Historia says it was once a Temple as well, but it's been long in ruins and forgotten about.

I do believe for the most part, there are certain areas or things that are consistent or relatively consistent, the Master Sword typically being one.
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>>147303467
The Sacred Grove in OOT had the broken stairs at the end of it, the same way as TP. The TP ToT was probably the intention of OOT, possibly with the whole time door and all.
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>Every now and then the giant Goron that Hyrule is build on top or, stirs in his sleep.
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>>147303585
Going off my earlier point about buildings changing, what if there's more than one temple of time? Someone built on once, it's not impossible they built another somewhere else as their civilization moved.
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>>147303764
I'm quite sure this is already well-established.
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>>147303430
>Reminder that Hyrule regularly switches from landlocked to by an ocean, to a fucking island in FSA. I'd call the geography the one part of canon you can safely ignore.

I believe it's always had an ocean around it. ALttP Link and ALttP Zelda/Impa do sail around on the ocean to get to Koholint and Holodrum/Lanbrynna respectively.

And in SS we do see that Lanaryu was once an ocean.

I believe there are just mountains around the borders and edges of it mostly, but it's ultimately still a large island/continent.
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>>147303764
None of the games have claimed to move it, so any kind of movement is just fans trying to make sense of differences between widely different games. It's more fan fiction than theory.
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>>147303585
Those Broken Stairs are part of the Temple of Time Ruins. You go down them in the past when exploring the Temple.
>>147303764
That is likely. We do know in some cases they're the same. Sealed Grounds/OoT Temple of Time and OoT Temple of Time/WW Hyrule Castle.
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>>147303853
That's what I figured, but sometimes people act like the temple, or Hyrule Castle, or other such things are fixed points that can never move. Death Mountain really seems to be the one geographical point that we could base a map around, since volcanoes aren't known for moving much. Of course, Gorons are a thing.

>>147303963
Pretty sure any map speculation like this would be more fan fiction than theory by your criteria.

>>147304056
How do we know those are the same though? Legitimately wondering if I forgot something from those games.
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>>147304056
>Those Broken Stairs are part of the Temple of Time Ruins. You go down them in the past when exploring the Temple.
I'm glad you agree.
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>>147303274
I like it, but I dont see any reason PH cant simply be in a place next to the Great Sea. Was there any special way they entered it? I dont think so. They just sailed and then the Ghost Ship popped up and took Tetra.

>>147303883
You do make sense, though there's no reason Link couldnt just travel to the coast, rather than that meaning the coast is right by the end of Hyrule
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>>147301505
characters I would like to see:
>Happy Mask Salesman (pretty much confirmed)
>Skull Kid, or rather, a bunch of them
>Hero of Time if this is indeed taking place directly after OoT and this Link doesn't happen to be him
>Beedle
>Linebeck
>Agitha
>Tingle
>Groose
>Error
>Gonzo
>Ingo Bros
>Banker guy
>Fishing guy with a skin condition
>Sploosh guy
>some Sheik knockoff
>some Malon/Marin knockoff
>some Groose knockoff
>some Ruto knockoff
>Twili to make a return as a proper race
>Gerudo to return as a race
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>>147304147
>Pretty sure any map speculation like this would be more fan fiction than theory by your criteria.
It pretty much is. The only big canon landscape changes are the ocean turning into a desert as seen in SS, Castle Town and Hyrule Castle being destroyed in OOT, and the temple falling to the ground in SS.
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>>147301505
Subrosians
Minish

That is all.
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Alright, how does this map look, everything matches up slightly well enough, Temple of Time faces differently, the only difference is that Faron Woods inevitably get cut down potentially by the time OoT takes place.

Obviously a very rough map. I'm at least glad we're discussing it, even if nothing comes of it, I mean there are some consistencies between the maps.
>>147304147
Historia mentions it.
>>147304232
I thought you were implying they were also the Forest Temple stairs.
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>>147304510
Your reaction when BotW provides you a stump in a far off area that lets you switch between normal and Minish size?
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>>147304272
>I like it, but I dont see any reason PH cant simply be in a place next to the Great Sea. Was there any special way they entered it? I dont think so. They just sailed and then the Ghost Ship popped up and took Tetra

I believe the ending of the game mentions that you're just within the Ocean Kings Realm and it's not actually a part of the Great Sea or at least what we know of. I could be wrong, either way you're right, it could fit just fine in the Great Sea.
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>>147304652
I assumed they sailed through the Great Sea, sailed past the Ocean King realm, eventually bumped into New Hyrule and settled there.

>>147304648
It'd probably be contained to one area but I wouldnt mind, that would be all I need. Minish really deserve to be mentioned again. Though Link may be too old or some shit.
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>>147304871
Seemed interesting that the ST new Hyrule had its own set of mysterious ruins.
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>>147305025
Probably stuff the Gods created I imagine to go along with Daphnes' wish.
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>>147305091
Why would they make old ruins in a far off place to go along with a wish to flood old Hyrule?
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>>147305025
Does this mean that in every Zelda game (or at least the Adult Timeline and pre OoT) there's some crazy shit going on high up on a mountain we never see?
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>>147305176
Do half the things the Goddesses do make sense? Their solution to stopping Ganondorf was to literally flood the entire land.

It could be Labrynna or Holodrum too honestly. I mean Daphnes let Hyrule's fate in their hands, not the other countries. Goddesses may have simple just put those on sea level instead and flooded only Hyrule.
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>>147305231
What if the Great Flood didn't add water on top of Hyrule? What if it pulled that landmass below sea level instead? So other continents weren't affected, Hyrule just sank.
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>>147305231
Probably just means that somebody used to live in that area. A future game might have the potential to explain why they don't live there any more.
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I have a question. I just finished Oracle of Seasons and I'm starting a linked game in Oracle of Ages. I was kind of under the impression that at least my sword and shield would transfer but they're the downgraded versions, is it still possible to get the master sword if I'm starting with a wooden sword? Did I do something wrong in the password process?
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>>147305365
That would explain why the Deku Tree is the way he is. I highly doubt his roots reach that far to the ground and haven't been uprooted yet, killing him.
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>>147305397
You may have done something wrong, you should have the Noble Sword. But I honestly don't remember the entire details, so sorry.
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>>147305484
It also explains how they were able to find other land that wasn't just more random islands formed by mountaintops.
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>>147305397
The Oracle games have top tier art

>>147305365
This makes a lot of sense. because it always peeved me how they could find a plateau that large to settle on in ST despite the world flooding.

>>147305386
We still havent gotten a Hero of Men game, so unlikely
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Is it me or do recent zelda games seemed cucked in some way compared to the old ones?
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>>147306008
It's you. You seem cucked in some way.
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>>147306008
I don't understand your memespeak, son.
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>>147306008
do you even know what you mean?
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>>147306008
Cucked? How so? Not sure at what you're trying to get at here, honestly.
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>>147306008
I totally feel you

I mean, they introduce us to Midna, which is honestly the best Zelda girl ever, and then forget about her completely after destroying the only way to see her into a million pieces.

And then there's Fi. Yeah, lots of people hate her, which is understandable given the role she was given in the game she appears. Aonuma decided it would be a great idea to have her repeat herself every single time something happened and for the game to remind you of everything every time trough her. However, despite all this, Fi has a lot of potential as a character since she's been though so fucking much with every hero hat used the Master Sword and yet again, Nintendo simply forgets about her entirely.

Yes, I feel cucked out of breat girls coming back in the series. Fuck everything.
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>>147306008
>30 minutes ago
>no replies to the replies
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Screen cap this.
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>>147305025
Spirit tracks hyrule is Zelda's hyrule from the first game, only populated and not in decline.
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>>147307905
>>147306008
laughing_darknuts.jpg
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>>147308024
Someone years ago had the ALttP map matching up perfectly with the LoZ/AoL map. ALttP being the east of it.

I've been trying to find it lately for like a week or two and I can't at all.
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ONLY 6167 HOURS UNTIL BREATH OF THE WILD
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>>147304517
How about integrating the Minish Cap areas?

Keep in mind that none of these areas are to scale with each other, and can probably only be considered a keyhole view of a larger area in the general vicinity of Hyrule. It's safe to assume that most of the landscape goes unseen, simply because it is not adjacent to a walking pathway.
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>>147309445
Oh, I was planning on doing all the timelines and such, just started focusing on the Sealed Grounds and Temple of Time as a starting spot.

Where would things go for Minish Cap?

I assume, Hyrule Castle and Death Mountain are the same. Cloud Tops we can largely ignore for obvious reasons.

But when it comes to Mt. Crenel, Wind Ruins, Minish Woods, and Castle Town though, is where I draw a blank. I can assume Mt. Crenel is somewhere in the Gerudo/Lanayru Desert and the Wind Ruins/Swamp down near Lake Hylia. Maybe Castle Town is the same as well and Minish Woods the Kokiri Woods? Hmmm, maybe the Lake Hylia of MC is the little Zora Teleport Pond, or was of OoT? Or maybe it's the Sacred Grove, there is water there, maybe it drained?
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>>147253248
Actually Fi, you didn't perish.
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>>147302762
I tried looking for it in the previous threads, but can't find it. Sorry, pham.
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>>147267882
>Hyper insertion
What did she mean by this?
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>>147309959
My instinct is also that Mt. Crenel is north of the Gerudo area. I wouldn't have thought that before seeing how SS portrayed the desert.

When I look at Hyrule Town, I kinda remember that old wall near the Ranch in OOT. If I had to make up an excuse for differences, I would say that OOT Hyrule built Castle Town over the top of MC Hyrule Castle, and that the ranch eventually moved into the space that Hyrule Town once occupied. OOT Hyryle Castle is then build further north than the MC shows.

If you assume that Veil Falls is the Zora Domain, than the flow of water between that area and Lake Hylea is the same between OOT and MC, except that the geographic placement is widely different. I would think that this is perhaps a matter of the MC map being not being to scale. The Big Goron suggest Death Mountain, but it doesn't have to be the part with the Volcano. We've been shown that the areas are roughly adjacent in OOT, and that there are shortcuts between them in OOT and SS.


Minish Woods for sure have to be at least near the Kokiri.

I would think that the MC Wind Ruins are essentially part of the area in SS where the temple fell.
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>>147310398
Well, she's left under water stuck to ganons head.
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>>147301984
I have trouble finishing games period. And shows, and movies. I have a habit of dropping stuff halfway through. Reading not so much, but I take a hiatus as long as a week at least.

Bought MM3D and loved the shit out of it but stopped playing at the Pirate's Fortress. Bought Link to the Past and stopped when I beat the first three dungeons. I have at least three other games in my 3DS library that are halfway complete, but then I got on my Zelda kick.

You're not alone.
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>>147311038
It's probable a lot more cozy than her stone pillar she usually rests in.
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>>147311119
>movies
Kek, I didn't mean that. But shows yes.
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>>147311119
>stopped playing at the Pirate's Fortress.
Man you should have stopped right after that at least. You even missed the best fucking part of the game that is everything Ikana and the temple, jesus fuck that temple makes me cum just from thinking about it.
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>>147301984
I finish fine if I don't take huge breaks. If I am away for too long, I forget what I have an haven't unlocked, and end up irritated that someone already opened all the hidden chests I'm hunting for. Then I just start over.
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>>147311252
Honestly that's the part I'm really looking forward to. I'll get around to it. Picked it up a little the other day, but I'm playing through Ocarina right now.
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>>147310818
So here is Skyward Sword Hyrule. We know the Sealed Temple becomes the Temple of Time, so certain maps will have to rotated and as you've said they aren't to scale.

With the Lanayru Desert, part of it is Mountainous, we can assume that Mt. Crenel is connected to or is the Lanayru Mines.

We could potentially assume that due to geography shift that Eldin Volcano comes down somewhat and that Lake Floria is the Lake Hylia of MC, they're rather close and this would keep up matched up with the Kokiri Forest and Zora's Domain (assuming we aren't rotating OoT's map to face properly with the Temple of Time).
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>>147311426
Lake Floria really is more similar to OOT and TP's Zora Domains than it is to anything else.

The Minish Cap map really probably can't be taken literally. Waterways and pathways may be true in an "a connects to b" way, but the direction and length are going to be off.
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>travel back in time to save tree from pulling a marty mcfly
>suddenly the tree wants to fuck me
>its literally making marriage plans for us and tells me so
Not exactly the direction I expected this to go in but okay.
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would you choose to live in the twilight realm
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>>147311737
What zelda game?
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>>147311741
I dunno. We really have no idea how people live while there. We saw their castle and temple facilities. No town or anything resembling living quarters.
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>>147311848
The one where the tree wants to fuck you.
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How would you react if the BotW map were littered with ruins that were blatantly the temples from OOT, TP, and SS? Not used as dungeons necessarily, but more like you crawl into a place and have a moment where you know you've been here before.
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>>147311857
fair enough
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>>147311737
It's important to get to know her as an individual before summarily dismissing the idea. You may find out you really have a lot in common.
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>>147311426
The sea in SS is likely where the desert wasteland is in OOT. That would put the colossus out on an island somewhere.
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>>147311719
What if we were to assume something along the lines of, Hyrule's Geography doesn't change, we just see different parts of and things change over time, such as lakes draining or filling or what not. Because as you said, we never do see all of Hyrule anyways, and this way we can assume that certain things don't match up because of these changes.

Like such as, lets assume the Dark Green are Forests, Tan is Desert, Blue are/were Lakes/Zora, Light Green is Hylian/Fields, and Red are Mountain/Volcano.

Would this potentially work? Or would we have to assume that a place like Eldin is actually Death Mountain and Faron Woods are Kokiri Forest, for instance, there is a Faron Woods in TP still.
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>>147312098
I'd really appreciate that actually. I'm really excited to just see the ruins of the Temple, Town, and Castle. Let alone if I end up in an area where "Oh shit, that was once the Shadow Temple or Forest Temple".

I can't tell you how long I spent in other games, especially WW and TP being like, is that what I think it is? Especially TP, especially. I studied the Lake Hylia Tree and Forest Temple Tree for so long including the inside trying to find anything that matched up.

Interesting note, the Kokiri Symbol in the Forest Temple on GCN is backwards, as is Hylian.
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>>147312591
I don't know how common it is for a volcano to have more than one caldera, probably nor very. Volcanoes can move, but that's over stretches of time that are so vast that even Hyrule shouldn't be old enough. For that reason, I would say that Eldin has to be the same place as Death Mountain.

Other than walking location, everything about MC's Lake Hylia more resembles OOT's Lake Hylea than it does any form of Zora Domain.

The Wind Ruins almost certainly need to be directly adjacent to the SS Sealed Temple, and both of those may need to be near the Lost Woods for the sake of TP and LTTP.
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>>147312591
If you actually place your hand over certain areas with the distance, then you can work these out.

Eldin Volcano=Death Mountain
Lanayru Temple=Gerudo Fortress
Faron Great Tree=Forest Temple
Skyview Temple=Great Deku Tree
Skyloft=Hyrule Castle
Wind Ruins=Water Temple
Castle Town=Market Town
Minish Woods=Kokiri Forest
MC Hylia=Zora's Domain=Lake Floria
Earth Temple=Shadow Temple

Things would switch around quite a bit, but they all actually match up based on distance and size. It just means eventually the Eldin Province would slam the Faron Province South.
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>>147313119
If we're assuming MC's Hylia is OoT's Hylia then the Wind Ruins would be a fair distance away honestly, at least bordering the Gerudo Desert, near Castle Town/Castle.
>>147313404
Hmm, they actually do match up fairly well. Don't know about the Great Tree not being the Great Deku Tree, and Skyview not being the Forest, but that does match up surprisingly well now that I look at it.
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>>147311119
I stop things halfway too. Even more nowadays.
Back when i was a kid and rented shit i rushed it to the end. Now i'm just lazy and getting worse everyday.

P3 was dropped at the last boss.
DA:O Dropped after beating all the first missions you get at start.
Oracle of Ages dropped after some really far into dungeon that i don't even remember
ALttP dropped the same way as OoA

These are just some of them
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>>147313601
If you take MC's geographic layout literally, almost nothing will match up with OOT or SS. If you consider the functionality of the area, than the Wind Ruins are same facilities as the area of the Sealed Temple in SS. There is a place in the other versions of Hyrule for almost everything in MC if you take the places individually. If you use the MC square map for placement, than it will have very little in common with other Hyrules.
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>>147313638
I'm right there with ya anons. Some games I'll finish like I was platinuming KH 2.5 (before Last of US fucking killed my PS3), but others? Lord no.

>A month or two from the end of P3 FES
>Halfway through RE Rev 2
>3/4 through Hotline Miami 2
>Battle of Kaer Morhen in TW3 (let alone the DLC I haven't bought yet)
>First Xenomorph encounter in Alien Iso.
>Ch. 2 of Life is Strange and TellTale GoT
>2/3 Beyond Good & Evil HD
>80% through MGSV or close to it
>Literally the last two endings from Platinuming Bloodborne
>halfway through LoZ: AoL
>3/4 through Bayonetta
>1/2 through DMC 1/3 HD
>4kidz and the end of Dark Souls
>Started DaS2 DLC, never finished
>1/3 through Evil Within

It's ridiculous, I have all the time in the world too, but I just get burnt out so easily anymore. A few rare games being exceptions.
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>>147313984
Well if the Wind Ruins are the Sealed Temple, that also makes it the Temple of Time according to the Historia. Then things would get really messy from there.
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>>147314110
They don't have to literally share the same floor. They are both the land based ruins of the area that is still in the sky. Both games easy have areas just over the next wall that can't be reached.
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>>147314243
Yeah but then things get a little wonky, for instance, if they are all the same place or at least connected somewhat, then that gives an entire new section of Hyrule Castle and stuff.

Unless I'm misunderstanding you, then I might need a overlay of the maps themselves to understand, even if you have to break MC up. Because I just don't see if with tectonic shift those two places matching up.
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>>147314387
Your options are either that facilities are larger than any one game depicted, or that there are functionally identical places in a far off place.
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>>147314501
I'd imagine the second one actually. I mean we do have quite a few places that are functionally similar already despite being in completely different locations.
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>>147314634
We have similarly themed dungeons in the same general area. We don't generally have clones of whole zones.
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I'm here to autistically save the day.

Yes, I wasn't aware of the Historia Lost Woods/Temple stuff, so it could stand to be fixed. Otherwise, I think it's as spot on as it's ever going to be.
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>>147314865
I'm remembering how odd it is that AoL named cities after the adult line OOT sages, and then got tossed into the whole downfall line in which we didn't get to even see the imprisoning war now. It's just one more way in which OOT was designed to neatly preface LTTP before the WW retcon.

Anyhow the maps. Very detailed and thought out. Too much to go through in a short time, but I immediately notice at least one thing. Link's house in LTTP is half way between OOT's Castle Town and Hyrule Castle. OOT includes the same dirt road and hill that LTTP had. It's that road where you have to sneak past the guards to get into the castle.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qw8hS-WykXY
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Once i wake up there is something i want to discuss. I'm too tired now to start it. So, in about 5 hours you better have your clocks ready. Time is going to get fucked
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>>147315589
>So, in about 5 hours
>sleeping only 5 hours

Good night guys, I'll see you in 12 hours like a real man
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>>147315554
To my knowledge the Sages still exist within the Downfall Timeline, unlike the Child Timeline.

They do change what they are after AoL. Saria was the Water Town for instance, though you can chalk that up to history forgetting. The Bombos Medallion is also the Forest Medallion, and originally in OoT it was to be named the Wind Medallion, which fits with Fado/Makar being the Wind Sage.

I could work some things out with the map, but that'll come eventually. Was going to try and add Labrynna Holodrum to it eventually, but who knows.
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>>147314865
Original map guy here, much better than my attempt, good job man.
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>>147315816
In the adult line, the sages are discovered by Link.
In the downfall line, we can only assume. We don't get to see how far Link got before he screwed up. We know that Ganon still got sealed. We know that the sages still got appointed. That puts Link at least as far as the final battle. Apparently if you fail to beat Ganondorf at the end of OOT, Hyrule manages to get by fine anyhow. It even does a better job of staying dry.
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>>147315994
Thanks anon, sorry to steal your thunder.
>>147316098
I assume he got far. Twinrova is revived in the Downfall games, so that implies she died, and for him to fight and lose against Ganondorf, he'd need Reading Rainbow Bridge to get across anyways.
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>>147316369
AoL's Nabooru town certainly supports Link getting past the Twinrova fight with a victory.
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>>147315771
>12 hours
>not 7-9

Oversleeping isn't healthy either, anon.
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>>147316098
>>147316369
>>147316580
Doesn't leave much room for BotW to wedge in between OOT and LTTP.
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>>147316580
It's a curious thing why he fails. I have a theory on it personally, but I usually don't even mention it. Had someone on /v/ flip their shit at me over it.

>inb4 you're that same anon
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>>147316685
Threw this in SAI real quick to see.

I'd have to see the actual entire map with landmarks for BotW though.
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>>147316694
Probably easy to just assume he died in the last battle. Didn't Ganon have the whole Triforce in LTTP? Ganondorf stole Zelda's piece without killing her, so he doesn't have to kill Link to get his piece, but killing Link is probably the only way to keep Link from stabbing him repeatedly. Zelda has to stay alive to help create the seal, which clearly happened.
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>>147316953
He does have the entire piece. But if it follows like it did with OoT, he kills Link first and keeps Zelda alive at least until the end.

I always assumed there has to be two concurrent Hero of Times, since one fails, and one succeeds, and we don't see a failure split from any other game.

This way we could assume we either always play as the succeeding Hero of Time, or we play as both, failure=young, succeeding=adult, and the two influence each other, hence the Song of Storms paradox. The ultimate difference being, when you're playing as adult Link, the failure Hero of Time is young Link. So when you kill seal Ganon as an adult, he's still young, and succeeding Hero of Time is sent back into the past in a completely different timeline and stops influencing the other Hero of Time, so when he's an adult, he's not being influenced and ultimately fails.

It's just a theory, but I think it makes sense personally.
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>>147302187
Is it Vaati time?
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>>147317126
Alright, so if the failure is a matter of timefuckery, than there almost has to be an alternate adventure in which Link manages to rescue all the new sages, but does so without ever knowing the Song of Storms.

The only real need for the Song of Storms, is to get the Lens of Truth. It's not impossible to win without the Lens of Truth, but it would be darn hard. Perhaps Link fell to Bongo Bongo.
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>>147317613
I'd assume logically that both Hero of Times' get the Lens of Truth, or potentially that the Song of Storms itself creates the timeline break between the two in order for it to make sense, though then we'd have a break in SS too due to the Demise/Imprisoned Paradox.

I think it's safe to assume that there are at least two concurrent Hero of Times existing at once, and one just happens to fail in order so that they don't continue to constantly exist regardless of timeline, sort of like failure Link was doomed no matter what because he shouldn't exist at the same time as the Hero of Time, and that somewhere or somehow he came to existence due to some type of Master Sword/Temple of Time shenanigans.

I mean I think two concurrent existences make sense, considering it's the only game with a failure state timeline branch.
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>>147317823
All ideas are essentially equal as far as inventing an explanation. The real truth is that Nintendo simply messed up and then tried to clean up the mess.
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>>147317181
Only if we're going to talk Dark Souls lore
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>>147318005
Fair enough, I can't argue that.
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>>147318090
No.
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>>147270982
Skyward Sword in relation to their dedication to the Royal Family makes me actually believe they are pretty devoted to Hylia, actually.
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>>147276084
As someone who has always loved MM, I have to say please no. Don't ruin the magic of the game by trying to recreate it. Less is definitely more when it comes to this kind of stuff, anon.
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The Downfall timeline is composed only by games with top down visuals.
BotW is not a top down game. Hence it's not part that timeline.
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>>147319603
Downfall is also the one timeline without a 3D OoT Sequel now too.
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>>147319668
The Downfall timeline is the only one without 3D games period. ALBW is 2.5D.
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>>147285959
>shape changing
It's a loose interpretation of the cutscenes in OoT and the altered Twilight Realm effect on TP Link.

In OoT Zelda had the cutscene where she revealed herself to Link. In that cutscene, she revealed her Triforce of Wisdom. In the same process, she dropped her disguise. The lazy way this transition is made leaves room for the interpretation that her disguise is a power of her Triforce piece.

In TP, Link didn't turn into a soul when he got exposed to the Twilight Realm. He wasn't spared either. He was turned into a wolf? So there's the question why he shape changed at all instead of simply retaining his human form. Even though it says that the Triforce of Courage protected him, it's left open how exactly it did it. It could be the the piece altered the body stripping effect and turned it into shape changing. It could be that shape changing is an effect of the Triforce piece that counteracts the body stripping. Unlike the Zelda transformation in OoT and WW, this is a strong case for shape changing power.

In OoT, Ganondorf utilized his Triforce piece to transform into Ganon. It's not 100% clear that the Triforce piece is the cause, but the cutscene suggests that this is the case.
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>>147320080
Also
>masks
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>>147320080
The Triforce is really pretty weird. Individual pieces seem to give you an increase to your abilities(?) but no one ever uses the full Triforce for anything other than wishes. Can the full Triforce just be used for super magic? Or is it limited to wishes and talking to you that one time.
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>>147311741
If more female twili were like Midna, yes. But Midna seems to be the only good looking expection in a sea of ugly ass creatures.
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>>147320736
Ganon seems to use it for Super Magic, though ALttP Link still beats his ass.
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>>147318685
Step aside, twink, there is only one fuccboi in this general.
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>>147302124
So, aliens confirmed?
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>>147320784
it's not even a sexual thing, I just honestly prefer the lighting at twilight over any other time of day
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>>147320970
Fuck off, fagboy.
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Mother
Fuckin
Vaati
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>>147321176
Actually, me too. In Kingdom Hearts, I love Twilight Town for instance. But "people" in the twilight realm are so creepy. Everything about that place makes me unconfortable.
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>>147321194
>>147321415
Redpill me about this kinky queer's lore. Does he have some conncetion with Demise or Ganon?
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>>147321689
Racist asshole #TwiliLivesMatter
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>>147321812
Look at them, they are so fucking ugly. Midna is the only decent looking one.
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>>147321768
Long before Ganondorf was born, Vaati was around kidnapping princesses and fucking bitches.
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>>147321909
Note that if you subscribe to the idea that Link's nemesis is the reincarnation of Demise, this makes Vaati the true Demise reincarnation as he is sealed in the Four Sword for most of the timeline.
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>>147322261
You mean Ghirahim's reincarnation.
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>>147322483
That makes as much sense as Ezlo being Fi's reincarnation.
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>>147322568
Except Ezlo has never being trapped in a sword.
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OTP?
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>>147322595
Neither has Ghirahim. He IS the sword.
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>>147321869
>Look at them, they are so fucking ugly

No bully.
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>>147323823
Ewww
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>>147323890
OOT3D's Kakariko ported into TP.

The amount of hacking is unreal.
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>>147323941
I'm not a fan of these kind of mods. They generally look very cheap and borderline fan fiction.
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>>147324082
That's the way I feel about the Zelda remasters too.
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>>147324145
Never as bad as fanmade shit, desu.
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>>147324189
It is usually worse, always just as bad.
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>>147324364
Nah, fan made crap is the bottom of the barrel. Zelda remasters have at least the decency of not being total shit, sorry to trigger you.
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>>147324467
>sorry to trigger you
Took the words out of my mouth. Sorry for posting things taken directly from Nintendo Zelda games, put into another game.

It looks like total shit because it's made by neo-Nintendo. Impressive is what fans did with it.
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>>147324553
Nah, your shit is utter crap. Find a better hobby than ruining games. Don't you ever post it in this general, fan shit like that is not welcome.
Maybe /v/ can appreciate more your "neo" Nintendo bullshit, they are on your same mental level. Very low.
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>>147324631
>OOT3D and Linke look like shit
That's what you just said. Why are you shitposting about Zelda in Zelda general you fucking sperg? Fuck off.
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>>147324696
Don't post here ever again. Fuck off.
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>>147324752
>stop posting Zelda in Zelda general!
The sperging is real.
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>>147324846
>Looks like shit in general
>Normal shield blurry as fuck
>Link from BotW holding the Fierce Deity sword
Fan made shit, jesus christ. The worst thing is that people that made that doesn't even realize how repulsive it is. It's just sad.
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>>147324912
>crying about items ported from other Zelda games
>it's lore friendly thanks to Hyrule Warriors explaining it
What is wrong with you? Stop shitposting already.
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>>147324964
Stop posting that crap. I know you did it and you think it's some hoyt shit. It's not. It's autistic. Get over it. Shoo.
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>>147325004
Stop telling people what to post. They don't violate rules and it's not irrelevant to the thread. You made your point. Now shut up please.
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>>147323823
>>147323941
>>147324846
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>>147315771
Well. I slept at least 4 hours before, then stayed up until almost 5 a.m.. I'd say it is understandable that i would sleep less.

Even then. As you grow older you sleep less, anon. Long gone are the days when i slept 8+ hours.
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>>147325521
>tfw 25
>tfw I can still sleep for 10 hours when I'm very tired
I'm still young, right?
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>>147317126
>...and we don't see a failure split from any other game.

Maybe and i'm sorry for really going into timefuckery Link's frequent time travel made that specific timeframe fragile, as in weakening the boundaries of time.
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>>147326141
It's not a general rule
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SO. I'm going to start the discussion that i wanted to do earlier.

As we all know, Zelda in OoT sent Link back in time after defeating Ganondorf in the future. Link then appears to have arrived a the time when Ganondorf was meeting with the King, as Zelda was spying over the window. So there were two Links existing at that point in time in Hyrule.
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>>147326685
That means that Future Link went after Navi. And present Link stayed in Hyrule regretting not being a Hero in his timeline. I did it. Hero's Shade explained.
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>>147326685
What if when Link time traveled in the future, Link completely disappeared from the past until he came back?
>Timefuckery
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>>147327101
That's even worse than what i said.
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>>147327203
It's not like there are solid theories about time travel, you know. Because nobody time travelled yet.
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>>147327241
I know.
I'd understand if you had said that when he came back in time, his past self would be completely overwritten by his future self.
Remember that all the times we go back is always in a time a little to the future than actually the past. Zelda sending link back in time is in a moment even further back, before Ganon raided the castle.
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>>147320080
Don't forget ALTTP rabbit Link.
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>>147327813
Ravio. It's Ravio.
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>>147328827
I really want there to be more axes in this games. Two handed axes and spears are among my favorite kind of weapons
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Is there anything we want added to the BotW Known Item Stats google doc?

>no one at E3 killed a squirrel or eagle to see what they dropped
>no one used the idroid on Chuchus or Keese
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>>147329039
>no one at E3 killed a squirrel
RUDE

I don't know, I think you covered up most items in that Doc. I guess we will have to wait for more footage.
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>>147329129
>It would have taken two seconds to use the idroid on Chuchus/Keese
>nobody did
FML
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>>147323941
She's cute.
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>>147324846
>>147323941
>>147323823
What is this? Is this on Wii U or PC?
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>>147329738
Clearly running on dolphin, where the stupidest mod community can be found. Go look some MK Wii mods and prepare to cry blood. Those idiots have no clue about level design.
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>>147329841
What was the mod that people were making that people misled you into believing it would be good, anon? You have to let that wound heal.
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>>147329841
>Go look some MK Wii mods
Why did I go look...

https://youtu.be/LKlN5CMEi44
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>>147330181
I need to puke.
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>>147326445
We'd see it from Oracle of Ages then too.
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>>147330826
Maybe it's a particularity of the Temple of Time. With it being connected to the Sacred Realm and all.
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>>147330963
Possible, who knows though. All we know is that only OoT has a failure state timeline, at least as of right now, who knows what BotW is all about. Though I doubt they'll introduce more timelines.
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>>147331306
Really want this to be in unflooded or new Hyrule centuries after ST to justify all the tech.
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>>147331306
I myself would've loved if every Zelda game were completely disconnected with the others. Which is what it seemed to be, save for very vague references to other games, until WW came.
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How do I have sex with Zelda? I want to raise a family with her.
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>>147332112
The real question is: which Zelda?
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>>147332343
OoT or Hyrule Warriors but any of them will do.
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>>147332112
That royal divine puss puss is reserved for Impa
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>>147332451
What if I'm the hero destiny has chosen?
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>>147332451
Who is it that have children with Zelda and gives birth to more Zeldas? It has to be someone important and we know that it isn't Link. We know of one specific person that Link fucks (Ilia), but none for Zeldo.
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>>147332451
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>>147332405
>Wind Waker
One might call the cops on you for that.

>Skyward Sword
You'll never get her willingly.
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>>147332451
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>>147332906
Tetra/Zelda wasn't under 16 was she?
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>>147334106
Not him, but pretty sure she, just like Link, is freakin' twelve. not that there's anything wrong with that
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>>147334269
Link is twelve?
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>>147334269
Huh, I always thought they were 16.
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>>147334435
Me too. I mean, Link was in a coming of age phase. Normally that is around 15 years old
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>>147250657
well if you like stragie games?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OjDXY3CUfZw
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>>147332112
How do I have sex with Midna?
>>147332906
What about TP?
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>>147334574
Which Midna? Twili Midna like a regular women. Imp Midna is a little more difficult due to her size.
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>>147334393
>>147334435
Pretty sure it's canon that WW Link is twelve, which is two years older than OoT's kid Link.

Twelve is a coming of age, too. Especially in medieval times, where you couldn't afford to stay a kid forever.
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>>147334857
But where is it mentioned?
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>>147334938
I think his grammaw mentions a twelth birthday, but nevertheless, there is his Smash trophy description:
>Link as he appeared in The Wind Waker and Phantom Hourglass, with big eyes and an expressive face. He lived peacefully on Outset Island until a bird captured his little sister, and he came to her rescue. In The Wind Waker, he had to crawl, press up to walls, and the like. His green clothes were worn on his 12th birthday and are the lucky outfit of the hero of legend.

That, and he just doesn't look sixteen. He's taller than the other kids in the game, but they're like seven to ten years old.
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>>147334574
>What about TP?
She's mine. You'd have to fight me for her.
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>>147252582
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>>147335486
Ew. People have strange fantasies.
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>>147335446
Tomorrow, Kakariko Village at high noon. Bring your guns.
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Daily reminder that Magi-tech is not cyberpunk
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>>147336324
Yeah, sure. >bringing guns to a magic battle.
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>>147333185
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>>147336665
Who said anything about magic?
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>>147337384
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I once was a drawfag.
Car Accident.
Pain like whoa.
Stop drawing.
Now I'm shit.
I want to draw again.
New Zelda makes me want to draw again.
Zero motivation.
Post art and inspire me.
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>>147338224
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>>147338224
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>>147338224
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>>147338224
As a fellow drawfag, don't give up. Have good art.
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>>147338486
>>147338589
>>147338674
These are super.

>>147338609
Less so, but cute.
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>>147338907
If you wanted good art, you shoulda just asked.
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>>147335486
Old, bearded, living in the mountains Link when? Maybe make a spin-off where Linkle seeks him out for training.
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>>147338609
>bird
>tits

>inb4 zoras
>fish
>tits

Do words just not mean anything anymore? Mammary glands, as in MAMMALS. The fantasy genre was a mistake.
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>>147338224
>Car Accident.
Any permanent damage keeping you from drawing again?
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>>147339240
So fishes are mammals?
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>>147339406
Chronic Pain.
Constant pain is soul draining.
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>>147339459
>the little faggot thinks it's funny
Kill yourself.
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>>147246004
>What a gay
We don't know if the current link is gay yet
we can only hope
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>>147339503
In the hands?
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>>147339798
That'd be pretty neato desu
Unless he's gay for the sake of being gay or "diversity"
Fuck that man
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>>147339798
Now that is one way of going off-topic.
I put my money on all Links being gay except TP Link.
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>>147339946
Fuck him indeed. That's my dream.
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>>147339961
>WW
>Gay
Not only he is straight, he has also great tastes. Tanned girls are great.
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>>147339961
>loz/aol link
>gay
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>>147339946
He won't be the gay we deserve, but he will be the gay we need,

a hot twink
whoops, tautology
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>>147340051
link is NOT for lewd
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>>147340149
Even link is confused by that statement
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>>147326685
Any one got any thoughts on that?
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So if BotW has an instrument (that hasn't been seen in the franchise before), what would you want it to be and what would it do?
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>>147340380
Spanish guitar
set the mood for advanced love making
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>>147340380
I'd kill for a magical armonica. It's my favourite instrument.
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>>147340380
A magical keyboard/piano, the gamepad touch screen serves as the keys
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>>147339864
Both legs. My hands shake from all the painkillers.
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>>147340380
Violin of Weather/Nature, it'd let you change the weather system so certain things could happen in certain areas (or just for fun). Need lightning sure. Need tornadoes, sure. Need earthquakes, sure.

It wouldn't be used constantly and sometimes it wouldn't have a physical effect just as the earthquake beyond trembling against enemies. But I think it would be really neat.
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>>147340380
I'd like a flute, but any woodwind is fine with me.
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>>147339946
WE NEED TO GO PLUMPER!
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>>147340881
PLUMPER
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>>147339240
Mammal aves
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>>147341038
But that's a girl..
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>>147340754
Holy shit dude.
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>>147341038
MODS

i'll fap to it knowing that it is a girl
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>>147341164
Gotta roll with the punches Anon.
Have an old gif I made.
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>>147341423
That is really nice
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>>147341551
It's alright, I wish I had made it a bit bigger so I could've focused on details and dithering.
I played with a walk cycle for ALLTP Link too.
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>>147341116
Never go to thailand
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>>147341423
>>147341831
Those are pretty cool anon. Enjoy some Wind Waker.
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>>147342539
>When you're hyped for your epic final battle but its just a kid this time.
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>>147342539
I really need to play this again.
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>>147342648
>tfw he pulled swords out this time

I was hyped as hell.
>>147342661
Same here man, I think this time I'll go through it with Pajamas on a 3-heart run, take some screens again with that.
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>>147342957
I'm probably just going to do a generic run through WWHD. I just couldn't be bothered digging out my GC.
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>>147343139
Yeah, I'm just running it on dolphin, or was at least. Wii U screens are a pain in the ass to compile quick and fast, so it's easier to just use dolphin. Shame about no HD, but it is what it is, still a fantastic game.
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Making new thread sit tight
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>>147343391
Dolphin 5.0 is pretty damn good, my not so great PC can run some fun games like Double Dash and Mario Strikers, but I rely on the consoles for my Zelda fix, or the handhelds/
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>>147343427
What did Ruto do to deserve that?
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>>147343690
She didn't stay loli mode
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>>147343672
Does that shitty pc play Baten Kaitos?
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Someone make a new thread. If no one answers by page 9 i'll do it.
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>>147343672
I usually do, but I'm too lazy to go to my parents an hour away and dig through my stuff that they've put away and boxed up to make room.

I need to download 5.0 myself, still running on 4.0, everything runs great Zelda wise at least. Had to get a plugin fix for Hyrule Field on TP though, I imagine that's fixed for 5.0.

Right now just going through all the games thanks to BotW hype, unfortunately that means playing through OoS (did last year) to compile screenshots and some games again just to get stuff I missed, like the camera stuff in LA, completely slipped my mind, don't know if I'll do LoZ/AoL though, not much screenshot potential with those games, at least with AoL, it's sort of bland, I don't even know if I'll finish it honestly.
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>>147344059
>>147344059
>>147344059
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>>147343427
How did i not see this
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>>147316632
>>147325521
Well I slept more like 10 hours. Drank too much yesterday so I had to wake up and pee.

>>147326685
Zelda just decided when to send him back.
Perhaps when she did she only sent his conciousness back, so no 2 child links.
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>>147343828
I haven't even tried.

>>147344074
I might need to try Zelda titles again on Dolphin, see if 5.0 improves the performance on them.
Keep up the screenshotting Anon
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It's the night of the third day. The end is coming. Do you remember that music?
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>>147345808
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I couldn't forget that if I tried
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