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Alicesoft/Rance General #514
Last thread: >>146811048
Subbed OVA Edition

FAQ: http://pastebin.com/jumUkvv6
Read the FAQ before you ask questions.

Alicesoft Image Booru: http://haniho.booru.org/
Rance Game Translation Chart:
http://haniho.booru.org/index.php?page=post&s=view&id=654
Rance World Notes: https://mega.nz/#!nRESUJYZ!ZqoypfshkozVBFpeFGI3Oi5xBtU22SjnrnfjIo2SUGY

Remember to use spoilertags when discussing and posting images of plot elements, especially those of untranslated Rance games. Ignore and report any blatant shitposting, including nameshit
Check pastebin for FAQs, downloads and General Hints

Upcoming

Rance 01 OVA Episode 4 - 24th June 2016
http://www.pinkpineapple.co.jp/rance01/dvd04.html

Rance X - Announced

Just Released

Beat Blades Haruka (ENG)
buy from Mangagamer if you want to buy
http://sukebei.nyaa.se/?page=view&tid=1949364
Physical Edition out 1th July 2016

Recent Releases

29th Jan 2016 - Tsumamigui 3 (JAP)
http://sukebei.nyaa.se/?page=view&tid=1927285

29th Jan 2016 - Rance 01 OVA Ep 3 (JAP)
http://sukebei.nyaa.se/?page=view&tid=1926624


Released Last Two Years (See FAQ for downloads and info)

October 2015 - Blade Briders OVA (JAP)
August 2015 - Rance 03 (JAP)
June 2015 - Rance 01 OVA Episode 2 (JAP/ENG)
April 2015 - Evenicle (JAP)
January 2015 - Mamatoto (ENG)
December 2014 - Rance 01 OVA Episode 1 (JAP/ENG)
October 2014 - Blade Briders (JAP)
September 2014 - Kichikuou Rance (ENG)
April 2014 - Rance IX (JAP)

On permanent hiatus unless localised by Mangagamer. Late 2016 at the earliest for the next Alicesoft game after Haruka.

Rance 5D - 100% translated,100% edited. Never to be released

Rance VI - 88.4% translated.

Rance Quest - 64% translated.
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Fuck, forgot the thread number.
This is actually #515.
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Stick with this thread I guess

OVA 4 Download Links

Raw
And mega link
https://mega.nz/#!AFFwwCLT!isHhBfHGLcO4PsJ7VEjpcsa3AYy3ZhFFnrrelGsgYNo

And torrent link
http://sukebei.nyaa.se/?page=view&tid=2057092

Subbed
http://hh.cx/files/[HH]%20Rance%2001%20The%20Quest%20for%20Hikari%20-%20Episode%204%20[DVD]%20[7CF39FAE].mp4
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What's your favorite Rance song?
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>>147154185
I got some strange playback error with two different media players
Is there anyone else getting this or just me?
My downloaded file was around 242mb so maybe I closed the browser too early or something
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>>147154201
Ontology
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>>147154201
KR Ontology. Not Rance, but I'd like to mention TT3 final boss theme here too. Incredible OST.
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Mouri's All-Out Battle is too easy.
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>>147154354
Forgot my video.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rxqGS9Y90HU
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>>147154303
For the subbed ova?

Try
https://mega.nz/#!vMdTEbzI!MPOvbZ0pKh669t2GKtEi-fqa8JMu-FfHAXBOVrKu9PY
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One day we will have that Zeth thread
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This one got the numbering wrong
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>>147154201
The music that plays when you battle Minerva in IX. I remember playing it and hearing part of Megadeth's Symphony of Destruction. Given their popularity in Japan, what the song's about, and Minerva's character arc, I'm convinced it's intentional.
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P10

I've got some true or false questions for SR:
1) The best unit to give the Emperor Ring to is Natori, because it puts her to 9 Spd allowing her to get off Miko Storm 2 even faster and therefore contribute even more to your Battle Rating, and maybe even let her dodge Ninjas.
2) Even if you give them textbooks, outside of Isoroku, the entire Archer class is beyond redemption, particularly in high difficulties.
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>>147160208
True and True
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>>147160208
I swear by Niwa. Fight me.
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>>147160807
>Fight me.
I don't believe in violence anon, can't we just settle this with a good old rape off?
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>>147160908
Isn't that sexual violence?
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>>147155580
Thanks, I found out my error
I was using internet from a cellphone and for some reason it kept crashing prematurely while the download size was around 340mb in total
>tfw got to 300/340 and it still wouldnt work, wasting all that cell phone data
dialogue makes both scenes more arousing, although I still like the maris scene more
>have to hope for 02 episodes to be animated for next best thing in shizuka
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Decided to go around to posting these
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>>147161248
>fought off demon and slav invasion of Leazas
>prevented the return of the Eternal Demon King
>Prevented Magical Steampunk Nazi's secret weapon from devastating the world
>crushed pedophile slave ring abusing orphaned lolis in Zeth
>destroyed the apartheid caste system in Zeth
>arranged for hundreds and thousands of refugees to be sheltered and fed
>fought off demon invasion of Zeth
>reunified JAPAN
>prevented the JAPANese genocide
>killed the demon haunting JAPAN for thousands of years
>invested in education in Leazas
>ensured the continuation of the Kalar royal family
>reduced Kalar rape by over 20,000 percent
>prevented Kalar genocide
>fought Magical Cyborg Hitler
>helped restore the rightful prince of Helman to the the throne of Helman
>brought democracy to Helman
>increased living standards in Helman by over 500%
>unified humanity
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>>147161486
and I have no idea why this was posted in this thread.

Nor why it was a response to >>147161248
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>>147161249
Would it improve anything? Moving to /h/?
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>>147161925
/h/ would be slower so less need to bump and no need to censor shit but beyond that I got nothing.
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>>147161925
>>147162020
It's a more if we're dying every thread well before 750 thing/

Since we're surviving it's not an issue.
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>>147162020
Huh i see. I really don't know the particularities of each board that well. Apart from /h/ not needing to censor stuff of course.
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>>147162247
/h/ has a pretty shit board culture. It's pretty much /b/ and /v/ kids who don't know how to get their own porn
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>>147162602
The only thing /h/ has ever given me one giving me a cropped image I could never find from resort boin
>tfw no one properly scanned a promotional poster of mika in a magazine
The closest I've ever seen of the poster was from some japanese blog taken with a camera on a bad angle
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>>147162602
Well, let's stay here then. Like that anon said >>147162082
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100-90
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>>147162886
I got some closure on the only image that eluded me for 2+ years from some anon in /h/
>will consider buying some kind of magical card where some beach girl's bikini disappears depending on temperature to fill the void
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Was annoying putting it together from
http://www.strawpoll.me/10398163/r

Remake characters are characters that were either introduced in the remakes (Rovert) or were characters that existed only in the original games and were greatly expanded on in the remakes.
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>>147165885
and yes. I forgot Ithere's image
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>>147165885
Huh, I didn't even notice that poll was running.
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>>147165885
>>147166047
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>>147165885
What thread was that posted in?
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>>147166397
ran for 507 and 508
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>>147165885
>>147166305
>Milly won
>Pink Pineapple didn't animate this

http://115.imagebam.com/download/hVEdYRzc6U4XS7tTB1wygQ/49286/492854311/Lewd.jpg
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>no Kanami version
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Probably not the best place to ask this question, but has anyone bought something physical from getchu.com while not living in Japan? Should I expect any problems trying to a nsfw mousepad and shipping it to some ameriboo state?
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>>147168786
It should be fine unless you're in the worst of USA's states, Canada.
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>>147168992
I live in Hawaii so I think that's pretty close although now it only has options while signing up for a japanese address/postal code. Am I supposed to pay some goyim agent in japan to borrow to forward it to me or something?
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>>147169370
The problem with Canada is that customs will look at your stuff

Hawaii shouldn't have that issue
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>>147166305
Do you draw that pie chart or is it a function of strawpoll?
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>>147169772
I'm blind. Forget it.
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I got a lot of money from the bank level. Is there any reason to save money or should I just spend it all.
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And the final poll result for now

Favourite Male Ally
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>>147170243
Spend
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>>147170243
Money is only used to buy stuff in that store

>Use ctrl + S
No, I'd have to convert the .bmp to jpg anyway
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>>147170553
>復讐ちゃん

She comes back?
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>>147171493
Yes
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What is ss?
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>>147173454
straight shota

Kamilla loves it
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>>147173789
Kamilla just likes bishies, I forget if Rance was in her strike zone or not
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>>147173859
She was interested/amused by him to some extent. Even by the kiss.

Of course things changed.
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>>147171493
She's cute.
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>>147174114
He can run it back
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>>147174114
Rance has repaired worse relationships over the years
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>>147174156
She is. Second most popular gal monster in the series.

>>147174241
>>147174547
Well there is a partial misunderstanding out
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>>147167816
It's basically Kanami anyway. Same voice and all.
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>>147174669
What's that?
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>>147175564
Kamilla thinks Rance murdered Reincock but it was actually Abert
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>>147175747
And then even if partially Albert's plan, he still killed her other beloved apostle.
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>>147176356
Probably her favourite son
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>>147176356
It couldn't be helped
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Posting dragons for Wales
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>People still making Yoru ga Kuru fanart
God, I need to finish this Core 6k as soon as possible.
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>>147179839
You should translate it
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>>147180135
While I hope to be able to read things and take only 1.5x the time it takes a fluent reader to do so after finishing Core 6k, translating is probably years away.
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post yfw Kamilla is the Yukihime of Rance X
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>>147180580
As long as I can fap I am fine.

I fapped to pretty much all the Yuki scenes in Sengoku
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>>147180916
That scene with the panda guy. I didn't like that. Did you fap to it?
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>>147181017
Yep
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>>147182484
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>>147182760
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>>147182760
Spoilers anon

There could be one person in this thread who doesn't know about that
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>>147182484
I really like her KR outfit.
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>>147184301
I actually think we have a pretty good standard of posting compared to most of /vg/

Probably because of the smaller userbase and we don't get a lot of new blood at any one time so thread culture doesn't get swamped with /v/
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>>147184190
I like the fact that KR had a blowjob from her
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Hawzel in X?
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>>147185538
Flame Scrivener
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Are you jewish anon?
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What happened to the Mangagamer announcements?
They should've been published yesterday.
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>>147188332
>>>/jp/15471425
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Just to post something, related a bit to Rance.
Is the MC of the Summoned Slaughterer WN similar to Rance?
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>>147189690
The what?
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>>147188616
>inb4 its escalator
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>>147190205
Mestre de Cerimônias
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After much consideration, I don't think I like KTM. Playing the whole fucking game without Permits and without autowins like you have in the other routes just make the game drag on for too long well after it's won.
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Just an observation - Rance never made good on his promise to fuck Kurohime in front of the Shimazu brothers, that would've been a weird scene.
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>>147192760
Well it's not like Rance remembers them nor are they alive to do so.
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>>147192864
That scene only happens in Ran or KTM, in which they're all alive and capturable.
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>>147193020
It's not like Rance would ever let them out of prison.
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>>147184465
Agree. Compared to other threads I've been, I prefer going here by far over others
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P10

Just checking over my posts from last thread. I guess that I've figured out the Emperor items, but what about the Brute Photo and Rance's Love? I've still got no clue who to give them to. I can't think of any unit in the game who benefits significantly more than other units from a constant supply of affection.
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>>147195974
They're just juoke items, I think. If you want, try giving them to a unit that you want to have a lot of upgrades.
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>>147188332
In a few hours.
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>>147195974
I always give Urza Rance's Love, or on a points run the girl i want to H as quickly as possible.
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P9... I wanna go to bed and I'm not waiting for 10.

I think I've finally got a good argument for why Himiko remains good even in 5 Star.

1) She has awesome stats, you can't complain at 7/7/7/7 and at the point where you get her, those stats are still relevant, unlike units like Nori or Kazuhisa who aren't worth it by the time you get them.
2) Monks are actually pretty damn good. In terms of base stats, they're just behind warriors and being able to heal yourself in a fight, remove Guard and start every turn with all of your troops really works wonders for you combat effectiveness.
3) Look again at her stats, that 7 Int and Def makes her an awesome tank.
4) In 5SNB, money can still be a problem when you hit the Mikos. Himiko helps a lot here by costing nothing to use,

Sadly, what makes Himiko good cripples all the other Monks. I've been trying to make Asakura Yoshikaga a good unit and that's what make me realise why Himiko is so good - just giving a Monk high Atk and Def doesn't make them good, it just makes them a bad Warrior, if you want to me a good Monk, you need to have awesome stats all round.

Pic related, I still can't make Mages good, despite being assured that they're great Foot killers, I just can't get anything from them.

>>147197862
>They're just juoke items
I'll give you that for the Brute Photo, but Rance's Love is an item that you can even obtain on semi-serious runs, so it's wasteful to not find a use for it.

>try giving them to a unit that you want to have a lot of upgrades.
That's what I'm asking, what unit has those properties? All I can think of are generic Cavalry units (Battle Rating Up 2 and Pursuit Attack are fucking awesome) but I was hoping for a non-generic that I'm likely to recruit.

>>147199223
>Urza
How does she benefit from it? All you ever want on her is Initial Battle Rating and Accurate Shots, and only the latter is really necessary (and best obtained immediately via items, besides - you'll get her before Rance's Love).
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>>147200913
She has a high level cap and I don't play fast games.
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>>147200913
>How does she benefit from it?
Perhaps boosting her Int for more initial buffs and to make them stronger? Or for increasing her level for dungeons battles?
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Mangagamer stream soon, for those who still have hope.
http://www.ustream.tv/channel/animecons-industry2
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>>147205438
for what purpose?
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>>147205438
They're not going to announce anything for Alicesoft.
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>>147206335
>>147207290
Really? Did I hype myself for nothing?
Fuck, back to being dead I guess.
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>>147207665
One more month. Trust me.
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>>147207665
If anything gets announced it will be in August.

Though beyond that I know nothing.

>>147208132
Don't know if this anon knows anything or is just stirring up hope
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>>147195974
I used to give Sen Rance's love
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>>147203905
>Smiling
Who is this and what did you do with Crook?
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>>147210353
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>>147190205
Sorry, didn't explain porperly.
http://trinityarchive.com/summoned-slaughterer
The thing about someone wanting to do what he wants without minding the rest just made me remember Rance's conversation with Tourin in SR. It was just the outer shell, though.
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>>147210437
Lies.
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>>147210437
What is this heresy?
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>>147210437
>a girl will never get on top of me and smile at me like this
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>>147210445
>>147210445
looks edgy as fuck
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>>147210512
>>147210708
getting [spoiled] raped by non Rance males[/spoiler] made her appreciate life
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>>147212141
It is. Some /jp/sies claim is different from the isekai genre, though.
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>>147212291
Not really, more like hearing the truth of the world make her a disciple of the church of Rance
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July 5th will be our one year anniversary of getting fucked in the ass.

How shall we celebrate it?
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>>147213112
Sel thread.
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>>147213112
I might replay VI while posting screenshots for the thread .
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>>147213338
Any chance of a short summary pastebin?

But if you keep things in spoiler tags go ahead
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>>147213534
I was kind of joking but I'll do that if I remember to replay it. I'm already playing 2 games currently
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Not so fast
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Dead as ever
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>>147216971
That's pretty dead!
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Don't die in my sleep.
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>>147221265
Have they ever explained what her robot arms are?
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>>147221349
Don't think so

Freak gave her them presumably
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>>147222052
yeah that makes the most sense, that or she just conjured them. Level 3 magic probably has some create robot arm spell somewhere.
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>>147205438
>>147206335
>>147207290
>>147207665
>girl screaming over gay buttlers
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Confirmed for no Rance by the way
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>>147223553
Like anybody thought there would be any there. Seriously, you think the Ludo-train would have numbed you to this already.
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>>147223796
Yeah but I was watching for Maggot Baits.

Just thought I'd point it out
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This is what Arunaru is translating by the way
https://vndb.org/v17376

So he won't even be in a position to work on an Alicesoft game if it's announced in August
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>>147228149
Saw that coming from a mile away, from how he twitting about the game he was doing containing an ungodly amount of "suki".

The Rance title is going to be 5D, which is already done and edited, therefore killing the series in the West.

That and he was nearly done before, so it's not like he couldn't also work on it a little more or finished it beforehand.
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>>147160208
Wow. Never thought of using the Emperor Ring like that.
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>>147210437
The true heroine of Rance Quest.
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>>147212119
I'll get on top of you Reset. I have long hair, just pretend i'm a girl
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>>147221265
>be waiting for almost a decade for Rance to fuck Hunty
>Rance didn't fuck Hunty at all
Complete Utter Bullshit/10
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>>147228149
>>147228668
Ahahahaha, screenshot this.
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>>147228832
smug Hunty
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>>147229832
Gameplay game sounds awesome. What does it mean exactly?
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>>147229832
Didn't know the hints were that blatant.
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>>147229893
visual novel gameplay (maybe AliceSoft title idk) will be announcements at Otakon (next month)
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>>147230262
Evenicle didn't win Game Design though. It won Game Challenge. Game Design was the just-announced Watashi ga Suki Nara "Suki"-tte Itte!.
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>Nothing happens again
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>Watch episode 4 for best girl
>Not much happens

Any announcement for the 2nd game being animated?
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>>147230862
>kanami
>competent
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>>147230262
Alicesoft games generally aren't VNs they're rpgs
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>>147230862
Well yeah, Mysterious ninja is just a boss.
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>>147230862
Pretty sure a lot happens with Lia and Maris in episode 4 anon
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>>147230862
Nothing

Don't think the later ovas sold well. The preoccupation with Sill and also picking Yulang wasn't received well om 2ch
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>>147230862
I really didn't like the 4th OVA. The animations of the first 2 and overall art were very nice. Nothing like that on the last one though.
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>>147228149
Those boobs in the screenshots look pretty well drawn.
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>>147231570
they lost money because they didn't sell as well as hoped
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>>147230928
Mysterious ninja isn't Kanami
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>>147233507
That was obviously Kanami subbing in for Mysterious Ninja. Failed to kidnap Sill, gets hit by her own ninja arts, goes down in a single hit, that's all Kanami-style.
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>>147201386
>>147201536
>Levels
They're barely relevant. If you're going slowly enough to do enough dungeons to make them relevant, then you're probably gonna do all of the dungeons, meaning that you're not gonna need any special sources of level increases.

>Perhaps boosting her Int
That's be nice, but I'd hardly see that as worth the fan to talk to her.

>>147210106
>I used to give Sen Rance's love
Why? I suppose that it does make sense to clear her fast, but does she benefit from it in any other way?

>>147228675
>Wow. Never thought of using the Emperor Ring like that.
Yeah, it only struck me recently that that's probably the best choice, and I'm on like my 12 playthrough.
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>>147232169
Everything seems to be going to shit.
Rance OVA wasn't all that
New Berserk is shit
Still no sign of translation of any Rance games

Is there a reason to live anymore?
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What does national power do in sengoku?
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>>147233631
>Is there a reason to live anymore?
To hope for August 12th where most people expect the AS announcement. No guarantees it's Rance though.
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>>147233631
Rance X

Maris and Lia scenes were hot anyway

>>147233738
No they say if there is an AS announcement it wll be then
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>>147233642
A higher national power gives a better income and allows you to recruit more units. They all have a fixed "Cost" you can see on their stats.
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>>147233561
>Why?
Makes her easy to clear and her level cap is high enough to make use of the + levels.
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>>147233823
Thanks. Also, is it worth exploring dungeons or is it better to rush conquest?
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>>147233787
But i can't read nip, anon. I'M ILLITERATE.

>>147233738
I think that it is better to not hope at all. By being pessimistic we at least have a chance to be surprised.
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>>147234036
start learning.
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>>147233561
To hit her cap you have to get enough leaf thingies releasing prisoners. Rance's love is just faster at it and you can save those leaves for a character like Kentarou or Rance who can't use those items.
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>>147234029
Dungeons give great items, and levels which make your characters stronger in commander fights. Some also give satisfaction or lead to character unlocks. They're really worth doing, and almost necessity on higher difficulties.
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>>147234295
I see. Game mentioned level ups, but do all commanders that took a part in clearing the dungeon level up, or just those who were present when on clearing last floor?
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>>147234454
actually both wrong. Everyone in your troop just levels up. They can all be knocked out but if even one of them clear the whole thing everyone levels once.
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>>147234530
Everyone in the troop means every commander i have, whether or not he took a part in clearing dungeon? Does that mean that it's better to build up army first and then go clearing?
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>>147233916
>Makes her easy to clear
I'll but that, but I'm not wasting the fans to just add levels.

>>147234215
Uruza? Hnmm... she stats at level 50 and caps at 75. By the wiki, there's 19 dungeons in the game, so lets assume that you can only do 15 of them in one route and then add the level ups from the ogre fights that you can do in Takuga's old turf... ok, you win. Although I still don't think it's worth the fans spent talking to her.

Also >implying I'd do dungeons in a route where I've got Kentarou.

>>147234295
>They're really worth doing, and almost necessity on higher difficulties.
Bullshit. The only good reasons to do a dungeon on a high difficulty are either if the dungeon actually has to be done to beat the game, or just for the easy SAT.
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>>147235019
Every commander in your roster levels up. EVERY one.
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>>147235246
Strictly speaking from fans or a severe play-through almost nothing is worth the effort unless it leads to the fourth fan or bonus points.

I am not talking from this perspective but rather my own perspective of "I like Urza and find that item to be the most appropriate since she has tons of potential upgrades".
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>>147235872
Fair enough.
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>>147235246
Most of us don't go full perfectionist and just leaking a girl is enough

I like giving Rance's love to Kanami
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Arunaru claims that a Rance game will be released before he dies
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>>147229832
If it isn't an alicesoft game I'm ending it.
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>>147237378
How perceptive of him
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>The mystery game is probably either whatever you'd assume it is or something relatively close
What could it possibly be?
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>>147237467
Escalayer
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How do i use word cloud in a thread?
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>>147237709
Fuck. That's very likely.
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>>147237378
Well yeah X is suppose to out next year, unless he's looking to kill himself there's no way a Rance game won't come out before he dies.
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>>147237467
>or something relatively close
It's confirmed, it's not Rance.
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>>147238065
It isn't Evenicle either
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>>147238065
Toushin Toshi 3

He will never escape
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>>147238272
I hope its this so we can tease about how bad he use to be at translating.

In fact I'll probably do that anyway regardless of whatever is picked up. Retrospective is fun.
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>>147238272
He already said that after translating Haruka, he would be happy of translating TT3.
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It will be a game with a shit ton of blowjobs.
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>>147238608
Nah. That;s the chuable game he is doing
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>>147238671
It's both games.
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>>147238697
Well Escalayer then

No Rance game is particularly blowjob heavy
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>>147237467
>>147238065
Izumo 4. Something Eushully because they're in the suck zone right now. SofthouseChara.

Take your pick.
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>>147239030
He has been playing some Eusuhully games recentlly
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>>147238608
Arunaru will never leave Eurasia alive.
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What will you do if MG will release Escalayer or some other minor game like one of Tsuma games or Drapeko? Are you going to buy it or pass it?
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What does "covert action" option do?
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>>147239685
>Are you going to buy it
Nope, economy here still is shit and I'm unemployed.
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>>147239685
I'd buy Drapeko, but that's because I like Evenicle and want to support the setting. Or multiverse setting. You know what I mean.
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>>147239803
The first time you use it, it makes the enemy house skip a turn (although they can still do plot shit).
The second time, it kills off some of their troops (that's troops, not commanders).
The third time, a random commander get assassinated (or if they can't be killed, they just get disabled for a turn or so)
Then it loops back.
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>>147239803

It does things in a set order that does damage to the enemy, the first action always makes them unable to attack for the turn, I can't remember the rest but it's either troop damage or random commander assassination.
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>>147239959
They're pretty unrelated in terms of setting.

As in completely unrelated.

I consider the QD thing more like Mamatoto/Rance
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>>147240116
I assume they're going to go somewhere with it, but yes you are probably right. AS are no stranger to re-using characters but its enough I am willing to support Drapeko based on that. Even if it turns out to be complete head canon.
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Quick! I need pictures?
Pictures of Satella!
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>>147240487
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>>147240487
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>>147240717
Puffy vagoo?
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>>147239685
Depends on the game.

If it's Oyako Rankan or Escalayer, probably not.

Drapeko is a very yes, because the Bad End system seems amusing and the plot description we had shows it's incredibly entertaining. Also Alma.

I would also take Blade Briders, Pastel Chime, Tsuma Shibori or even Yokubari Saboten.
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Don't die in my sleep
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>>147240535
You have her entire 03 portrait? I need it for reasons.
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>>147241353
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>>147241394
Didn't even had the time to say no to anon.
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>>147241454
I have every portrait and sprite and cg from the Rance games/Dai gaimes/TT games/Pastel chime/Drapeko and Evenicle.

But now I am off to bed for real >>147241218
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Theoretical SR question - what's better, a Ninja with Assassinate 2 and high Spd but nothing else of value, or a Musket unit with a massive troop count, the normal Musket attack and only one Action?

I've started to realise that both units are used in exactly the same way (fire once and use up all of their Actions, hoping for an insta-kill) but the Ninja seems to get much more praise than the Musket. Why is this?

Pic related - Senhime can be assassinated if she defects to Shimazu.
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>>147242592
No one praises ninjas
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>>147241394
I forgot how she looks very thin, like a vegan.
Thanks, mang.
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>>147242592
>letting her defect
Anon, I am ashamed of you. I would be more so if you didn't have Kiku in your party.
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>>147242592
Presumably because ninjas don't need to be front row to do their job, and don't need any troop size to use Assassinate. If I remember correctly it even can ignore shikigamis. Since on an efficient run you'll just savescum best results anyway Ninja is just the best except in the rare scenarios where Assassinate doesn't work. Ninjas also provide the best dungeon skill in the game, and Suzume gives huge amounts of sat on the way to it.

I don't really have anything positive to say about musket except they aren't mages.
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So guys - I'm scared. I Assassinated Shingen like 100 turns ago or something and I've yet to see a Takeda General. That means that there's a decent chance that all 4 of them are in one house.

How fucked am I if they all come to play with Omachi?

>>147243048
Better for Senhime to be seduced than someone more fun like Kiku.
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>>147243448
I don't think Youkais can have human commanders.
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So does Yuzumi need to be introduced or something? I beat Tangeashima on the same turn that I declared war, and I never saw her until she was captured due to me conquering them.

Also, only the Youkai are left on the map now... I hope that >>147244012 is right, I fucking hate fighting these guys in KTM, at least I've got Sill for the final fight.
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>>147243448
Personally I get utterly livid over defections, especially when it's characters I care about.
Shimazu fucking BURNED when I lost Sen, and then it burned yet again when I somehow lost fucking KENSHIN in another playthrough.
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>>147244379
You lost Kenshin to Shimazu? Fuck mate, how did you resist the urge to savescum (if you were able to, that is)?
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Uh, does Shizuka lose levels on IV or is it just experience?
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>>147244464
First time? Savescum. I really don't see the reason not to unless you're doing some sort of challenge.
Second time? During one said challenge? I have to put her down. It was terrible, and I made sure to bum rush the pricks and wipe them off the map. Ranmaru must have been happy becoming my main warrior once again, though.
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>>147244779
Just experience IIRC, but it's been a while since I've played IV.
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>>147244898
>Ranmaru must have been happy becoming my main warrior once again, though.
You didn't recruit Mouri?

Really though, Ranmaru isn't actually that bad, the 50% buff that she gets with Shibata is more than most people think.
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>>147239685
As for me, I haven't bough Haruka, neither played it or even downloaded. I also wouldn't won any of those three games, I already have huge backlog of games and other things.
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>>147244898
Ranmaru is never happy anon.
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>>147245110
Will Shibata rape an eventual daughter that they both have in the future?
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>>147245002
She's not bad, just easily outclassed by other units like Kenshin. She's the Leila of SR basically.
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>>147245220
Come to think of it, is Lelia a better unit in SR than Ranmaru?
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>>147245002
I prefer using cute women, anon. Though Mouri is a badass oldguy and is always welcome in my party.

>>147245110
She can be happy, she's just too busy trying to woo the lolicon who appeared on the latest "To Catch A Predator: Continent Edition" after Kamilla.
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>>147245205
Shibata is a true gentleman, unlike Brutal Loli King Rance.
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>>147245563
Yes, more actions, can guard and she has that attack that deals more damage to units that have more troops than her.
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>>147245563
Strictly gameplay, yes. Leila is one of the best units you can probably get. As a whole not really. Ranmaru comes free, arguably the best oda unit and immediately has use. Leila you gotta go all the way into Leazas, who you'll probably start on after getting Urza. She of course will provide valve once you finally get her, but Ranmaru is more valuable as a whole.

Unless, of course you're doing an extreme game then you'll probably just fire her for money.
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>>147243436
What's so bad about mages?
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>>147246216
They are extremely slow and their attacks are not so good I guess.
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>>147246216
Literally everything. I could go into detail but in all seriousness, what's good about them?
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>>147246346
They are stronger than bows and can attack from back row.
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>>147246716
>They are stronger than bows
Even if they are stronger than Archers, which is actually difficulty to verify, that's not an achievement - aside from Whirlwind Shot, the entire Archer class is irredeemable.

>can attack from back row.
That room's already taken by my good units.
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>>147246216
Rizna's dogshit, magic is a huge pain to get and Shizuka costs 20 points. The class itself is unbelievably slow, fragile, EXPENSIVE to upgrade and the other int fighters, divine are whole lot better. Even just random generics.

They do, save shizuka, give great sat and have some combat viability. Shizuka herself has sticky ground. They are just really fucking lacking.
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I can't believe that I won this fucking fight. I didn't even know it was possible for two wives to appear in one battle (All-Guard Shiki is awesome)... I wonder what would've happened if I beat them both?
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This is actually good question - why bows, crossbows and guns too and archers/rangers/gunners/whatever are so weak and useless in pretty much every Alicesoft game?
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>>147246716
But they're slow as hell, getting 1 turn to Isoroku's 3, and can only really target one person without specials.
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>>147247465
The good gunners are pretty awesome in Quest
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>>147247465
Maria's pretty good in 02 and III/03.

Working Bee Yuzumi too.
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Hey, Nobunaga was right - it did take Rance about a year to conquer the country.
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>>147247154
Actually what exactly does int stat do?
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>>147248325
From the wiki:
Intelligence (Int) - Increases magic damage done, increases defense against magic. Formulae is Magic damage = Base Damage + Int x 10, Magical defense = Int x 7

Foot Soldier - Each point of Int increases the amount of 'guard' you get when using the guard command by 10%
Tactician - Each INT gives 1 initial buff, and increases buff strength by 5%.
Diviner/Yin Yang - Affects magic damage done.
Monk/Miko - Affects healing.
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>>147248325
Magic damage, healing and defense
Tacticians give more initial buffs and spread more buffs per point.
Footsmen guard gain is directly related to the stat.
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>>147244989
Ah, she just loses her magic lv 3 spells
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If you rip off Kanami's ahoge will she become useful?
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>>147250513
She's just become Kanami Alter and become a mannish junk food-loving girl.
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>>147253186
Kanami Alter is now the best version .
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>>147256682
Why is Alice such a lewd girl, reading such lewd material?
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>>147257873
I hope she tapes her breasts because that'd probably chaff her nipples something fierce.
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>>147247568
Which ones do you consider good?
>>147247610
Okay, Maria's Tulip is good in some games, some musket units too. But bows/crossbows are still weak.
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>>147258586
Urza is top tier in every game she appears.
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>>147258586
Aegis.
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>>147258586
I don't know if it counts but Kamikazes are among the strongest galmons.
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>>147246216
>What's so bad about mages?
I think you may have already got a complete answer, but I still feel like giving this a shot.

1) Even if the class was good, their units would still suck. None of them start with any stats above 6, so if I'm being generous, they've only got the stats of a good generic.
2) The class sucks, go look here
http://alicesoft.wikia.com/wiki/Sengoku_Rance:Parameters_%26_Formula#Summary_table
They're exceptionally shit in every regard except for their base Int. >>147247154 made it pretty clear. Even if you somehow make the Mages good, you're gonna struggle to actually fucking use them.
3) Their moves suck, on an already very slow class, they've got Fire Blast, which is tied for being the slowest move in the game. As for A-Cutter, it's a move on a very early game unit which is only good in the late game, in short by the time the move doesn't suck, Rizna sucks. For White Destruction Beam, 1.5x damage on two units which ignored guards for all your actions isn't the best deal, but I'll give you that it's still pretty reasonable.
4) The circumstances in which they join sucks. As with any unit, you want them to have a high number of troops, but Rizna joins so early on in the game that she's unlikely to have many. Magic and Shizuka aren't in much better positions (I can get much better stuff with my points or SAT bonuses, particularly by the time that they would show up), and buying them new troops costs big money.
5) They've got no access to anything game-breaking, so even if they were a reasonably good class, you're still gonna have to convince me to use them over something broke like Tourin.

And remember, for all the reasons that Mages suck, what do you get? A unit that can use magic and hence do a fair bit of damage to Foots... well, slightly more magic damage than Diviners, who's generics are faster, easiest to get and more versatile than any Mage unit in the game.
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>>147258586
Aegis and if you invest in them enough Reset and Athena 2.0

>>147259995
Urza is totally mediocre in Quest
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>>147261057
Honestly, I still think Rizna should have been a Warrior or Footman with Angel Cutter as a Special Attack. Preferably the latter with a high Int, making a decent unit.

It's been long, so I forgot, but how's she in dungeons? Is she purely a mage there too or does she have a regular attack?
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>>147262081
Most useful thing i can say about her in dungeon fights is Xavier's all hit move did nothing to her as well as the mikos during the snaek fight
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>>147262081
>It's been long, so I forgot, but how's she in dungeons? Is she purely a mage there too or does she have a regular attack?
She's a lower level Sill, with immunity to magic and without the healing move
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>>147261267
Isn't Urza one of the few units in quest with Tactician buffs? I generally ended up using Alcott anyway though...
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>>147264370
While true, tactician buffs aren't as essential as in SR
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10 10 fly away!
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What if Gele returns in X and becomes a fated girl?
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>>147268174
You mean Kamilla
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>>147268174
Considering her ending in 03 as well as the endings/fates of the other sealed girls it's possible that they'll get recruited for X at some point, when the fighting turns desperate or whatnot. Rance surely wouldn't give a fuck about unsealing something he'd be able to fuck.

That said I'd mainly be interested in seeing a genki Am.
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>>147259995
>>147261267
Urza could be strong in vanilla RQ or in some later patch version, I don't really remember, where you could get her very early with level 30 with all your party being around 10. But other than that her tactical skills are expansive from what I remember, and not really that good.
>>147260905
Can she be recruited in Galzoo? If she is good if yes? Then she could be one of exceptions then.
>>147261267
>>147260243
Reset is good, but that is because she is Reset and has three skills unique to her: one passive that makes your party unaffected by stun, second passive that decreases entire damage received by party by 20% and her Kalar queen curse attack which poisons all enemies and decreases their attack and defense, also removing any buffs they possibly could have. Any class would be good with all of this.

Aegis is actually pretty okay early, later on though she doesn't seem to be able to hold her position with all new characters who join you and the stronger enemies you will meet, and becomes obsolete.
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>>147268174
Would seem unlikely given the ages

>>147268595
Kamikaze is a new game+ character in Galzoo
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>>147153632
So... I've beat 5SNB of every route in SR now, here's what I've learned.

1) 9,999 troops stacks aren't as common in 5 Star as we make them out to be. The only time you really see them is on units which always have massive numbers of troops (e.g. Takuga and Moscow)... maybe there really is room to argue that Omachi is a better unit than Natori.
2) Speaking of Natori, >>147160208, she really is the best candidate for the Emperor Ring. When a 9 Spd Natori gets a Spd buff and you brought Dousan, be prepared to wipe out the entire enemy force. On several occasions, I've seen Dousan restore Natori's move only for her to prep Miko Storm 2 and then fire it off instantly. It's funny, every playthrough that I do, Natori seems to get even more broke.
3) Speaking of Monks, Himiko is still a damn solid unit in 5 Star, see >>147200913.
4) The general opinion sthat we have on most commanders and units types are correct.
5) Pursuit Attack is fucking awesome. I love the Cavalry.
6) The number of turns that have passed don't seem to have much of an effect on the strength of the enemy units, however your progress in the game does, it's kinda weird, stuff like Iga will always suck even if you fight them as your last house but houses which are intended for the late game like Mouri are the reason why Foots are vital in 5 Star - it really does seems to be the case that they cheat and use generic Warriors with 9 Atk.
7) It's a great tragedy that Initial Battle Rating and Initial Time Advance stack. The game would be a much bigger challenge if it weren't for them.
8) Unless I'm paying attention to the story, I can only play True or DK now. Isoroku and Kenshin are just easier True, while Ran is won as soon as you enter it and KTM drags on for too fucking long.
9) Most of the fights in the game are easy, even the castle battles. I still find it hilarious that the Miko's final battle isn't really too much trouble even with the 50% advantage.
10) Savescumming doesn't help you.
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>>147269345
>it really does seems to be the case that they cheat and use generic Warriors with 9 Atk.

I don't really think that this is cheating, more likely that this is intended that have houses have better generics. I remember picking Takeda house bonus and fighting Takeda after taking Ashikaga province. The generics captured from them, from what I remember had better stats that those from Hara or Ashikaga.
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>>147269818
While I do agree that better houses have better capturable generics than others, from what I've heard, some Chinese hackers checked it and they found that in the late game, the game really does cheat - you'll be hit with the force of 9 Atk by a unit that has 6 upon capturing. I suppose that if you wanted to, you could check it yourself by measuring what damage an enemy unit does to you and then hacking to capture it, but I've never bothered.
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>>147269345
Himiko was always the best Monk since Seigan is a bitch and never joins you ever.
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>>147270075
This could be possible. I'm really curious about TADA mode, if you enable it, you can see list of enemy commanders similar to FFA when you have Intelligence King. Would it show that generic with 9 or 6 Attack?
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>>147270292
>Himiko was always the best Monk since Seigan is a bitch and never joins you ever.
I get him in most of my runs (I never bother to even fight the Tenshi Sect, so they just end up vassaled), too bad that Natori makes him redundant.

>>147270357
>This could be possible. I'm really curious about TADA mode, if you enable it, you can see list of enemy commanders similar to FFA when you have Intelligence King. Would it show that generic with 9 or 6 Attack?
I know that an anon a while back figured out a way to use Cheat Engine to view the stats of your own units before a battle or something (it's how I found out that stats of the reinforcements units). I could probably experiment with that and find out the enemy's stats, but I've got no skills in that area, otherwise I could fuck around with the SSG or just force Twin Intelligence King into a normal game.

Where did you hear about TADA mode anyway? It's news to me.
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>>147270831
It was found by SLC few years ago, he managed to set it on. I'm not sure if he posted it here or if it was way earlier on hongfire.
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Is there any rhyme or reason to beginning of turn events in BBA?
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>>147270831
>>147271219
http://www.hongfire.com/forum/showthread.php/54917-AliceSoft-Sengoku-Rance-Discussion-Thread?p=3332345#post3332345

I found old link, not sure if it is working.
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Y'know, where did all of our SR experts go? I've still got thread 386 saved where we basically had 3 SR experts arguing with each other, we even had gems like this posted (pretty sure the poster of this was that guy who holds the English-speaking record for SR).

>For me, personally, the level of satisfaction I got while clearing the Orochi dungeon on my latest points run (I did Orochi on turn 32) was incredibly intense. Of course, realize all the other parts of the run I should have done better left be understandably disappointed, but I don't doubt when I get a really nice, really solid run I can feel truly proud of, then yes, it really will have been worth it. To me, at least, and that personally is all that anyone can ask for.
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>>147272131
Presumably life since that was almost a 150 threads ago. Or became interested in other things and forgot most of the SR stuff
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>>147271437
>http://www.hongfire.com/forum/showthread.php/54917-AliceSoft-Sengoku-Rance-Discussion-Thread?p=3332345#post3332345
Yeah, I have no fucking clue how to enable that and going from the pictures, it doesn't give you the info that we would want anyway.
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>>147272459
or the great betrayal of a year ago
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So, if someone can translate most of the shit on the left side of pic related, I can maybe try to hack SR and enable something like TADA mode.
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>>147273638
left or right?

If hongfire is back up your best up contacting SLC if you want to unlock it
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>>147274157
Left, if we can understand the drop down menus, we can crack the rest, as for hongfire stuff, I don't like our chances, we had a guy pop in here for months asking for a translated version of the SSG and neither we nor hongfire seemed to help him.
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>>147274398
Well, actually SLC managed to enabled that, he also posted in those threads month or two ago, so he hasn't forgot us completely, he should help.
Also is worth noting that there is TADA mode in VI too, probably also in 5D. No idea about Quest or IX
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>>147275061
It's probably just a special debug mode TADA uses
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>>147274398
You have to contact SLC directly.

Or wait for Australia to wake up
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>wake up
>its not rance
>go back to sleep
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>>147279981
Everyone'd already said that August was more likely.
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Dead
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>>147280263
Toushin Toshi III or Escalayer

Get hype
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>>147284510
I'd rather get TTIII personally.
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>>147284510
I'd eat up TTIII awful CGI and lack of plot direction just for the OST
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>>147284510
Fresh translations of 5D and VI to be released within a month, obviously.
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>>147287737
For China
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Haha just getting to the final chapter of IX now. Minerva is finally doing work and it's great. Truly best girl.
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>>147289726
afterwards you get to do all the heroine routes
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Why is Battle Note so popular?
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I'm semi confident that there will be an announcement in August
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>>147154201
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bN084zWykv0
hype af
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>>147291396
Japan has shit taste
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Will Gele ang Am return if Rance decided to fight Ludo? I love those two :^)
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>>147291967
As in if I were capable of hope anymore I'd have some level of excitement.
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>>147291396
>Everyone want to hate fuck Satella
ayy
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>>147292326
>Not loving Battle Note
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>>147292701
>hate
But I love Satella
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>>147292842
I meant the rest of their voting for the most part
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>>147292701
>hate fuck

Shizuka perhaps but not Satella
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>>147292909
Nah. Popularity is highly influenced by the role you get in game.

Normally the game specific heroines at the top with the major recurring members next and maybe a one off star like Kaloria as well.

And villains don't rate that well.
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>>147291396
What game is battle note from? I've never seen her before.
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>>147293065
Rizna being at the top of anything but a garbage heap is grounds for shit taste
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>>147293169
Galzoo. She also appears in Evenicle and in Rance Quest.
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>>147293230
>Hating Rizna
You're one to talk about taste
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>>147293169
>>147293427
Just generic enemy gal monster in Quest and in Evenicle.

Has a role in Galzoo.
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>>147279981
BLUE
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If Alicesoft is smart they'll just make Rance X have a shit ton of 3P scenes on more minor girls to use their limited CG as cost effectively as possible.
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>>147294220
Am I the only one that's not worried about this? I've always thought TADA is gonna have as many CGs as needed no matter how much it costs.
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>>147294702
After so many girls in Rance Quest didn't get anything I'm worried

Most of Miracle's scenes were basically fucking edits/reskins of her defloration scene too in IX, not to mention all the rehash with Sheila's skins
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>>147294702
>As many CG as needed
You probably have a different definition of needed than most people
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>>147294830
It's the series finale, no reason to be a cheap ass any longer.
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>>147292870
This.
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>>147294969
It's a series finale, not a company finale
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>>147294702
>>147294969
This is how disappointment happens
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>>147295071
Pretty sure TADA has said he's fine with bankrupting the company for X. Unless /haniho/ has lied to me.
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>>147295259
Even if TADA said that, I'm absolutely sure the CEO wouldn't actually let him really bankrupt the company.
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>>147295071
>He doesn't know.
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>>147295462
Is the hanny swimming out Shade?
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>>147295259
>>147295462
I'll believe they're going all out when I see it. If the CG previews show a bunch of minor girls who have a reason to be in the game but wouldn't normally get a CG then I'll believe.

I've gotten lucky two games in a row but I'm not trying my luck by expecting a third CG appearance from my favorite girl.
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>>147295798
Are you the Alkanesefag by chance?
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>>147296038
maybe
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>>147295798
don't worry. Sill will take up 5 different sex scenes with completely different cgs on her own
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>>147296382
That's what I'm afraid of
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>>147292701
no one wants that. satella is love
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>>147296382
Sill got outdone by Kanami in 03, you can still have hope.
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>>147296504
Much as I like Kanami I don't want any one character taking up a whole block of cgs if we're going to be limited.

Max 3 for any one girl.

And this is the special Sill reunion after two games out frozen.
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>>147296869
Sill aside, I don't Kanami, Shizuka, etc will get more than one scene. IX was a special case, they usually don't get more than one. Hell, pre-magnum Shizuka didn't even have a scene in two games.
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>>147297780
Agreed. Rance IX was meant to finish a lot for them.

They'll get one each. And maybe Shizuka might also get a 3P with Nagi.

Satella will probably get two or three possibly including a bad end. Hornet will get two or three possibly including a bad end/canon kayblis rape.
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Sill 2-3
Major Demon Realm Girls 2-3
Major Heroines 2-3 (Could overlap with the above)
All other girls 1 or 1 + group scene

Does this work for everyone
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Doesn't it seem unrealistic to assume that they're going to have a lot of CGs if the game is going to be voiced again?

There's just too many girls to cover, even if you cut it down to "Girls that would realistically show up" it's still too fucking many.
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>>147298274
There's no voices in X
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>>147298274
They already said it's not going to be voiced. I think they were only considering system voices at most.
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>>147298274
I would be incredibly surprised if the game is voiced precisely because of how much text there will be and how many characters there will be.
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>>147298005
I don't mind them having more if they're variations of the one lot of scenes but if it feels like a whole bunch of characters who should have had scenes had missed out because one or two characters got a lot of attention then i'd be unhappy.
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>>147298005
Will he finally rape ALICE?
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Haha this Minerva fight. Just fuck my shit up.
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>>147292701

Satella is love, Satella is life.
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>>147299613
This feels like a scripted loss and it better be.
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>>147295259
I think that's going to be hard to do. Even if they want it to happen, Orion is just one man, and drawing all that stuff can take a toll.
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>>147300501
Where are you at?
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Girls that have a realistic chance/potential reason to appear

>Rance 01
Maris
Kanami
Willis
Sill
Necai (?)
Yulang

>Rance 02
Shizuka
Maria
Eleanor
Mill
Feliss
Tomato

>Rance 03
Sel
Leila
Menad
Aten Gnu
Sioux
Satella

>Rance IV
Sanakia
Athena 2.0

>Rance 5D
Copandon
Rizna

>Rance VI
Urza
Cessna
Prima
Megadeath
Kaloria
Magic
Kaoru
Wichita
Nagi
Annis
Chizuko
Papaya
Usupira
Kamilla
Aurora
La Seizel
Yuki

>Sengoku Rance
Kenshin
(The rest, of which there are plenty)

>Rance Quest
Crook
Sachiko (?)
Biscuitt
Pastel
Kibako
Alkanese
Tillday
Amitos
ALICE
Am
Cafe
Arms
Matilda
Crane

>Rance IX
Milacle
Sheila
Pigu
Cream
???

Who gets CGs
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>>147301929
Seemingly infinite crystal Minerva's spawn in the battle so I assume I'm supposed to lose. Unfortuantely my team is so tanky it's taking an hour for the crystal minervas to win.
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>>147302528
>Rance IV
>No Io
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>>147302605
She didn't even appear in IX
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>>147302554
>so I assume I'm supposed to lose
Well, you're not.
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>>147302554
You are meant to win
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>>147302554
Beat her up
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>>147302817
>>147302740
>>147302875
Haha kill me.
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>>147302528
Necai and Yulang are no chance
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>>147302528
>People actually think they're going to break bank on CG
kek
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How is it not being a rapist in a world filled with hot, barely naked (or full nude) gal monsters?
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>>147302528
No way do even 1/3 of these girls get CGs, though many of them will probably appear
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>>147302528
Why would Necai and Yulang appear? They weren't popular and they're not connected to any important plots or organisations
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>>147304029
It's no rape if it is a moster.
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>>147304934
Yulang was strong enough to be considered for a military post and showed up in Quest, Necai has no real reason to appear.
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>>147305013
To me all the minor characters n Quest are just shout outs and a last chance to see these characters.
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>>147302528
I doubt Maris is leaving pregnant Lia's side - there's too many people who are more conveniently around to do logistics shit anyway unless they REALLY want to do a KR throwback
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>>147306365
Rance will visit Leazas castle at least once.
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>>147302528
I can see them trimming down a lot of the VI military/government girls, old Ice Flame members and a lot of the miscellaneous Sengoku girls. The really important military girls from Zeth like the ones that are Four Lords tier will probably make an appearance (Papaya, Usupira, Chizuko, Papaya) as well as Kaoru and Wichita since Gandhi will probably be there.

I definitely expect to see the Helman military girls like Amitos and Cream.

Crook/Alkanese are a given since there's no reason for them not to appear again.

Other random one-off girls from Quest like Kibako are a toss-up.

I expect we'll see Leila and Menad again, as well as Sanakia. For the Custom witches Eleanor and Mill are a toss-up, Maria and Shizuka will obviously be there.

All the Rance IX heroines will make a reappearance, no reason not to for any of them.

As for who gets CGs, no idea we can only hope all of them.
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>>147306735
Forgot to mention that Arms is probably going to re-appear.

I'll be really disappointed if Kamilla doesn't come back too - that would probably be my #1 "Wasted potential" complaint.
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>tfw tried to make conversation
>thread dies anyway
I tried
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>>147308217
I appreciate it anyway.
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>>147302528
Rance World has a shitload of characters, man.
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My expectation on girls that will appear

Guaranteed

Rance Castle
Sill (sex+)
Kanami (sex)
Feliss (sex)
Biscuitta
Sanakia
Kibako (sex?)
Crane
Pigu

Kathtom
Shizuka (sex+)
Nagi (sex?)
Maria (sex)
Eleanor
Mill

Free Cities
Copa (sex? - TADA's favourite)
Arms (sex)
Athena 2.0
Shariela?
Mekill?
Alice?

Al Church
Crook (sex)
Sel
Ralga Cat Girl

Leazas
Lia (sex)
Maris
Tilde (sex)
Menad (sex?)
Leila
Alcott
Julia
Pulptenks?
Milly?
Sioux?
Hauren?

Zeth
Magic (sex)
Miracle (sex)
Rizna (sex)
Uzra (sex)
Papaya
Uspira
Kaloria
Chizuko
Annis
Aten
Wichita
Kaoru
Karma?
Afra?
Kimichi?
Ice Flame Trio?

Helman
Sheila (sex+ = guaranteed 3P in my opinion)
Peruele
Cream
Hunty
Amitos
Alkanese
Elena?

Kalar
Pastel
Reset
Aegis
Kalar Queens?
Somita? (sex?)

Too many lines
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>>147309028
Annis will get fucked by Rance, her defloration will result in weaponized sex to kill one of the Dark Lords.
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>>147309028
Continued
JAPAN
Kenshin (sex)
Kou (sex)
Sen (sex)
Isoroku (sex)
Naoe Ai?
Torako and Katsuko?
Teru?
Youkai Girls? (I reckon Masamune will appear)
Keikoku? (sex if she appears)
Kurohime?

Demons
Hornet (sex+)
Satella (sex+)
Kamilla (sex)
Silky (sex?)
Hawzel (3p)
Seizel (3p)
Yuki
Aurora (sex?)
Warg
Medusa
Galtia's apostles
Rona
Kaybwan and Kaybnyan (sex?)
Root (sex)
PG series (sex)
Kessel maids (sex)
Keiko?

Gods
ALICE
Willis (sex?)
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>>147309028
Somita got re-worked into Aegis I thought

Also no 3P between Satella/Hornet or Silky/Hornet would be a waste
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>>147309028
>>147309186
And I forgot the most obvious one of them all plus possible Gele and Am

Sex+ is that I expect they will get multiples with Rance possibly including a 3P

Sex is that I expect a sex scene

Sex? means it's possible

? next to name makes me think they might appear
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>>147309028
>>147309186
So basically you expect it to be the same amount of CG as a normal game
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>>147309469
There are for scenes. Like what happened in IX some scenes might have multiple CGs. Get the feeling Shizuka might have a blowjob + regular sex.

And to add to all that there will be the Kayblis/Medusa/Monster sex scenes.

But if nobody has 5 or 6 scenes most of them will be included. Unfortunately we will not have sex scenes for some girls that I want and others won't even appear
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>>147309186
>>147309028
Man if this was the actual list Rance X would be the disappointment of the decade
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>>147309028
The only way you're getting a Hunty scene is if she gets nabbed by the demons in some bad end, pretty sure she's with Patton these days.
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CGs for the Tsuma 3 spinoffs

http://exhentai.org/g/950944/5b8502dea8/
and
http://exhentai.org/g/950843/14c2c3e30a/?p=4
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>>147310691
which is why Hunty isn't down on that list as having a sex scene
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>>147310767
>Ai
>Sumire
>NTR

I'm just going to gather it's a alternate version where she takes interest in him instead of the protagonist because that's something that doesn't work at all in the story.

>Sayoko
Aren't they reusing CGs for that?
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>>147311047
It's definitely in the cards though, Rance X might just have a split between good route and bad route to enable certain characters to resurface where they otherwise wouldn't (like Am) which I imagine gets triggered by Sill getting killed (yes yes, wishful thinking)

Regardless I'm glad Shizuka is back on the menu after being limited to bonus content for two straight games (one of them just being an appearance without actual CG) though they better damn well de-loli her asap.

Satella is also definitely in the cards so I'll be cheering for that as well.

And lastly I hope Feliss gets treated better this time around, she gets bullied more and worse than Kanami...

And lastly I hope they give Reset a big role this time around, so long as that crystal doesn't turn blue.
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>>147311462
I think a lot of 'routes' hinge on Demon King

Does Miki go demon king?
Does she die?
Does Kayblis go demon king?
Does Rance?
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>>147272131
I've done a five star run and min maxed quite a bit and I can't do an Orochi kill at turn 32 these hanihos are on another level
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>TADA says they're going all out for Rance X
>Gives Sill two extra scenes and the rest is just the normal CG amount with just the "Playing it safe" characters as always
I'd be legitimately angry
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>>147312216
What if the game is really fan and has great plot and Kayblis' dicks are in 3D?

And Rance finds a way to impregnate demons?
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>>147312379
I don't want to see Kayblis' dicks at all if I can help it
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Do you think that even if girls don't get scenes they'll have Sengoku Rance/Rance Quest style text scenes where they still fuck but you just don't get a CG scene for it?

I'm willing to bargain at this point because I really don't see Alicesoft putting nearly as much resources and effort into Rance X as some people seem to think they are.
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>>147312470
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>>147312597
I personally don't think so but let's at least wait until we have more information than just one draft image
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>>147312632
My dream scenario for Rance X is a Demon King Rance route where you just get a harem of of all the female Dark Lords/Apostles by the end of it.

I know Kamilla as she is now would hate that idea, but that'd be for the scenario writers to figure out.
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>>147258586
> But bows/crossbows are still weak.
Urza uses crossbows and she's consistently one of the best units in the games she appears in.
Aegis + Reset are pretty good unit in Quest.
Tourin is excellent unit at higher difficulties of Rance IX.
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>>147312928
She'd have no choice in the matter
>>
For what was that "complete code" that you get at the end of IV used?
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>>147293230
> Not loving Rizna
Shit taste.
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>>147313245
Special Io Route
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>>147312935
Changes little for the fact that bows in general are weaker units than most, the 'gunner' units in Quest are mostly garbage. Aegis is, much like Isoroku in SR, 'acceptable' at best and Reset is a post-game unit that has no real purpose by that stage.

Archers in SR are just shit, even the aforementioned Isoroku needs a ton of work to be worthwhile and is generally one of the first non-generic non-starter commander that gets the boot.

'Honorable' mention to Megadeath from Rance IV who is also quite ass.

Tourin is one of the worst units in IX if you're playing normally, and is a proud member of the 'why the fuck does the game force me to deploy all these units I don't even want them on the battlefield' group.

Urza is one of few exceptions being one of the strongest commanders in SR (great at both battles and dungeons, has one of the most ridiculous skills in the game, buffs galore and good regular damage) but by Quest she's kind of worthless again.
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>>147313161
I think Rance would rather try to win her over on his own terms than resort to Demon King mind subjugation at this point.
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>>147313495
How long is it?
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>>147293230
There's nothing wrong with Rizna.
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>>147313518
>Megadeath from Rance IV
You mean VI?
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>>147313592
25 hours and ends with Rance becoming Emperor of Helman
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>>147313592
25 hours and ends with Rance becoming Emperor of Helman

>>147313585
Well Demon King doesn't damage her pride as much.

Maybe offering her Kaybllis and Abert's heads
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>>147313689
Yea I did.

Anyway it seems that every time an archer unit is anything but shite it's because it's mainly something else, Urza being a tactician rather than an archer (and her being shite in Quest due to being an archer again)
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>>147313952
>Albert's head
Isn't his Blood Soul sealed in Zeth

Rance still has to navigate the whole
>Killed one of your apostles
>Scarred your eye
>Raped you
Minefields before he gets his "I killed Albert" points
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>>147313817
>>147313952
wat

How do i use this shit? I didn't see anything at the Main Menu
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>>147314179
Wait. It didn't take me anything near 10 hours to beat this game.
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>>147314146
So I know very little details of what went down during Rance VI (most of it being picked up from here or scattered comments/mentions in the wiki) but what exactly did Rance do to Kamilla's eye?
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>>147314269
Slashed in the face by Chaos after one of her own apostles betrayed her by distracting her in the fight
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>>147314572
>>147314269
>>147314146
her eye will heal
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>>147314635
If their wounds heal why don't their hymens?
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>>147314784
For the same reason they don't regenerate their umbilical cords.
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>>147314146
Killing Albert makes up for at least one of those and the other two will be made up for by promising to kill or killing Kayblis

The real question is can she be forced to co-exist with Hornet since her unwillingness to be #2 to her is what drove her to Kayblis' faction to begin with.
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>>147315146
In hypothetical Demon King Rance route Hornet isn't in charge of anything but Rance's dick
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>>147315146
Or maybe her time being sealed after a complete defeat at the hands of mere humans has mellowed her out a bit.

Out of all the sealed girls though, I'm really holding out for Rance fucking the emo out of Am and completely flipping her character around.

I'm also wondering if X is finally going to be the game where Kanami gets competent and is recognized as such, but I highly doubt this'll be the case due to Kanami bullying being so popular.
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>>147315369
Kamilla will probably show up in the game regardless in some capacity, and assuming there will even be a Demon King Rance route is a bit what if.
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>>147315459
I definitely expect Kamilla to appear

>>147315446
Doubt it. Opposite effect or else the whole bit at the end of her sex scene was pointless

>>147315446
In the epilogue it will talk about how centuries later people remember a new legend - the second legendary 5 - Rance, Sill, Kanami, Shizuka and Maria.

Young ninjas everywhere will want to grow up and be as competent and strong as Kanami, ninjq legend
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>>147315459
The inclusion of the sealed girls won't really be guaranteed if not for a Demon King route. It also makes almost too much sense, Miki goes berserk, Rance is finally forced to kill his first girl and ends up as the Demon King as a result.

Why would Kamilla be released in the first place in any normal route? She has no reason to help Rance and they have no reason to ask for her assistance when there's so many other more reliable candidates.
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>>147315780
She could always get released by the Kayblis faction and wind up as an enemy again -> eventually recruited due to XYZ plot reasons/developments.
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>>147297780
>>147297994
Shizuka will get 0 in X
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>>147315780
To add on to >>147315881
The difference between serving under Rance and serving Kayblis is that at least the former isn't going to force a "Fuck me or die" ultimatum on you.

There's also always the possibility that she gets freed by someone in the Kayblis faction and then just fucks off to plot revenge against both on her own as a 3rd party rather than return to Kayblis because given her behavior in VI that wouldn't make any sense.
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>>147316007
No way. They need one after she returns to being an adult and finally is able to vocally admit she loves Rance

Popularity also guarantees her one.

>>147315881
>>147316058
I've said it before but I think she might take the Silky role of observing blood souls as she tries to get strong enough to kill Kayblis
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>>147316207
I find it kind've unlikely that they're just going to leave the Blood Souls laying around in this timeline like they did in KR - especially since you're going to have people from Zeth and Leazas involved (Not to mention maybe Miki).

Though they did plenty of stupid shit in Rance Quest so who knows, though he was pretty unsupervised throughout that. Though you can bet if Crook is around she's definitely going to be smart enough to seal errant Blood Souls up.

The only way they could do that without making it just nonsensical is Kamilla getting freed, joining the Rance faction and then secretly amassing Blood Souls waiting for her chance at revenge.

Hell, turn it into a mini-route branch even to see if Rance can make her stop before she nearly destroys herself or bad-ends like Silky from trying to fight Kayblis.
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>>147316207
absorbing

>>147316426
Possibly but I doubt she would even pretend to be part of Rance faction.

She has her pride and Rance and his allies aren't stupid
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>>147316642
Rance has overlooked worse shit before to get his hands on a girl.

If she keeps her pride she doesn't really have many options aside from hope the writers just make everyone forget to actually do something with the Blood Souls after each fight against a Dark Lord.

I honestly think her throwing away her pride for a chance at revenge would be the most interesting path, and joining Rance's faction makes a lot more sense than going back to Kayblis with that angle.
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>>147316880
Well either way she's one of the areas I reckon has the most potential to add an interesting new plot line to the whole demon thing.
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>>147317014
I agree she has the most potential, which is why I'm going to be sad when she just shows up to get raped by Kayblis and then commit suicide right after.
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>>147317115
I'm sure Rick would console her.
Maybe put a green wig on her too.
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>>147317306
the day Rick steals a target girl from Rance is the day that friendship ends
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>>147316207
Shizukas story has been told, no reason for them to add to it.
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>>147317364
Leila

And it happened before he started becoming friends with Rick.

>>147317115
think Rance has a good chance of having a ride
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>>147317425
The difference with Leila is that Rick isn't actually with her, Rance doesn't feel threatened by Rick

It's not like Bird where they're someone who has actually shown the capability to be in a relationship (Albeit, they all fail with him) so that Rance has a reason to hate them
>>
>All the scenes with Silky and Hornet are Kayblis rape
>Kamilla either has no scenes or a single Kayblis rape scene
>La Hawzel only has a Medusa rape scene
What would your reaction be
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>>147317796
Angry letters written in blood.
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>>147317796
TADA would get assassinated
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>>147317386
There are about 15 other girls on that make more sense than Shizuka for that.

No need to be contrarian for the sake of it
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>>147318587
How many of those are trapped in a loli body so they won't even throw in a cg for the sake of it?
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>>147318658
How many of those are arguably the most popular girl in the series?

Do you actually think Shizuka will stay as a loli?
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>>147308931
Over 500, even.
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>>147317796
The La twins need a threesome in X to make up for the absolutely horrible one in KR.

>>147318658
Grow-up Fountain says otherwise. With Mill no longer needing a sexy body to get Rance going, I can see them using it for this.
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>>147317796
I can see Silky getting raped in this timeline first and then saved and fucked by Rance.

Hornet escapes with her purity in-tact and has her first time with Rance, bad end rape by Kayblis

Kamilla is a wild-card because anything could happen with her. In KR she'd rather suicide than get dicked by Kayblis so no reason to think that's going to change.

La Hawzel will probably get snake dicked and saved by La Seizel + Rance and then they'll have a 3P.
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>>147318872
If they wanted they could have made the ending where she grows up again canon. They however picked the loli one.
Why would they do that? Just to include a side quest in X?
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>>147319234
Not him but I always figured they did that just so they could have the irony of Shizuka finally falling in love with Rance only for him to become unable to actually want to fuck her anymore.
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>>147319234
See
>>147319302

I suspect they will keep Nagi loli though.

They'll have Shizuka finally be able to admit she loves Rance while she's a loli, possibly because he's no longer chasing her for sex and possibly because he'll end up being more protective of her.

And then at some point she'll return to adulthood and be happy to do so. Probably the way Mill did in KR given that Rance has already fucked Mill in Quest.

There was no point leaving Shizuka still refusing to admit she loves Rance and relieved that Rance isn't chasing her because she's a loli if they didn't have plans for that in X

Plus she's too popular to not have a sex scene.
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>>147319476
>Too popular not to have a sex scene
Meanwhile in Sengoku Rance
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>>147319476
She's too popular to not be in SR or not get a sex scene in Quest as well, right?
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>>147309028
>>147309186
Funny you didn't list Sachiko (Who?) that already was confirmed to appear.

Alfra being added to RWN with an "???" on the skills makes me think she have higher chances of appearing, otherwise there was no reason to hide it. Like how Stessel had a "???" when added before IX.

Alkanesee is from the free cities (her group just had a base in Helman).
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>>147319590
But he did list Sachiko.
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>>147319569
>>147319521

And they added her in the Sengoku patch and then gave her two sex scenes in Magnum because fans complained.

They also couldn't justify Shizuka willingly going to JAPAN to help Rance

>>147319590
Ralga Cat Girl
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>>147319676
>>147319868
Oh, that's one of her memes I forgot.
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>>147319868
They only could add her postponed due to popular demand since they were perfectly willing to ship the games without said content.
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Rance and Hornet and Silky and La Hawzel and Satella need to make sweet, sweet sexual loving.
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>>147320267
She's easily forgettable
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>>147320672
Do you actually think she won't have a scene in X?

Besides after the decision in Quest she dominated the Quest polls, including beating popular heroines like Kenshin who had more attention, came third behind the two new heroines in IX and then came first in 03.

Pretty much only Sill and some of the demons have more chance of getting a sex scene in X than her
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>>147321223
>Do you actually think she won't have a scene in X?
yes
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>>147321223
Well, the anon on 2ch wanted Shizuka to be a virgin and that might have happened with IX, so maybe this might occur as well.
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>>147321767
One guy on EGS you mean
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>Check up on the thread for the first time in about 8 hours
>page 9
I don't know why I expected anything less
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How accurate is this?

Discuss while I sleep.

Also on the topic of Rance X sex scenes

http://www.strawpoll.me/10653680
Which of the girls on this list do you think Rance will fuck in X?

You can pick as many options as you like.

ALICE
Am
Annis
Copa
Feliss
Gele
Hawzel and Seizel Threesome
Hornet
Isoroku
Kamilla
Kanami
Karma
Keikoku
Kenja Keiko (Hornet's Apostle)
Kou
Lia
Magic
Maria
Maris
Medusa
Menad
Miki
Miracle
Nagi
Pastel
Sachiko
Sen
Shizuka
Sillky
Warg
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>>147324241
I gave everyone 1 vote just you fuck with your poll.
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>>147324241
No Reset
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>>147325689
>Liking the third worst fetish after furry and scat
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>>147325689
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>>147325889
Reminder that children get sexually curious very early and she has most likely played doctor with squirtle already.
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After beating IV, I'm going back to SR.
So, i have 05 points to spend at game start. Do i choose the permits or 10k gold?
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>>147327795
Get the diviner girl.
Or the monk man.
Or the musket girl.
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>>147327795
Permits are only useful for point runs, mainly on KTM route. 10k gold is pretty much worthless and you only take it if you don't know what else to take.
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>Some people think that Kamilla's role in X will be anything beyond getting killed by Kayblis upon release.
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>>147326860
>Reminder that children get sexually curious very early
If by very early you mean around the age of thirteen, then sure.

Otherwise kindly keep your NAMBLA propaganda contained.

>>147328263
I have yet to hear a single convincing argument as to why she'd even show up in the first place. Her story has been told, her fate is quite literally sealed and there is absolutely no reason for her to be brought back. Kaybliss faction isn't really interested since she kind of went to do her own thing and Hornet has no interest either, Rance might want to fuck her but he's nowhere near desperate enough to consider it now if he didn't do it when he was under Morun.
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>>147329101
Holy shit. I didn't even know that this was a thing.
I'm kekking too much here.
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>>147329196
It's clever that they changed the word "lust" to "love", makes the name a bit more palatable doesn't it?
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>>147329505
No, not really.
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>>147329101
I dunno man, when I was about 7 I remember staring and women's breasts and asses knowing I wanted to do something to them but not sure what exactly.
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>>147329629
You thought they were comfy and wanted to sleep on them.
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>>147329629
Yea sure, and you were probably also staring at breasts when you were still feeding off them, you're not really doing sexual shit until your body actually produces the hormones required for it, while you might have a passing interest in peoples bodies and physical attributes thinking that this means you're sexually aware or curious is utter folly.

There's simply a difference between being merely curious and being sexually curious, the latter typically involving an erection.
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>>147329761
My hentai says otherwise.
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>>147313518
>Isoroku in SR
>'acceptable'
>Isoroku needs a ton of work to be worthwhile
>one of the first non-generic non-starter commander that gets the boot.
Have you never fucking heard of Whrilwind Shot (or if you're playing on low difficulty, Sweeping Fire)?
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Daily reminder that Rance is not pedo as he only took a bath together with Kou. Nobunaga did that all the time when he was alive.
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>>147327795
>So, i have 05 points to spend at game start. Do i choose the permits or 10k gold?
The gold is worthless. It's between the Permits and one of the Diviner, Monk or Tactician. The best choice probably depends on difficulty, but just remember that you need a 1k troop stack to actually use the Permits, so I'd probably recommend one of the units. Go experiment, the Tactician is fragile but he has Battle Rating Down 2 at the start of the game, making him able to win castle battles for you while the Monk is basically the best Warrior in the game (he has like 9 Atk or something, Convert Action 2 is also awesome) and the Diviner is very versatile (defence with All-Guard Shikigami, while being an offensive powerhouse {for low difficulty at least} by being a Diviner so early in the game).

>>147328145
>Permits are only useful for point runs, mainly on KTM route.
Given that you're not given Permits in KTM, I'd highly recommend taking them as a bonus.
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>>147333245
He can't get permits and KTM route with just 5 points
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>>147333386
Yeah, that's why I was replying to the guy that said that Permits are only useful for points runs.
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>>147333202
Rance is a pedo because he stole a loli's virginity and a homo because he did a dude.

Both of them in II/02, surprisingly.
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>>147333830
Dude? When?
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>>147329101
>Kayblis faction isn't interested
Except you know, Kayblis
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>>147329101
>Her story has been told
OK so I guess you don't expect to see Am, most of the Rance IX heroines, Lia, etc. either
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>>147335732
The H-scene before the final boss.
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>>147335732
He's talking about the time when he fucked the mayor's daughter, who was possesed by Ragishss.
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>>147325835
feet?
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>>147340214
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Dead
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Just a thought, if someone plays all of the translated games and nothing else, do they have any hope of participating in the lore discussions here?
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>>147343323
No. I'm one of those. You can get some hints of lore through SR but it's really not enough.
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>>147343323
In reality it depends on what is exactly being discussed. By playing KR you get and idea of what happens between VI and IX, as that game was recycled to cover those games, many things changed though.
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>>147343323
Not much. If you really want to you can read the translated lore on the wiki,
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>>147343323
You won't have a full grasp but if you at least play KR you will have a general idea of the players in each region, just not necessarily their current-canon status or identity.
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>>147343323
Technically, by the nature of lore, it's not really something that's in the game. Most of it comes from out-of-game stuff like Rance World Notes or Tomino Memos.

We used to have a site that compiled everything, but someone bugged Ludo and he deleted everything in a fit of rage.
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>>147346960
There is still the Japanese Wiki, which is what Ludo translated
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>>147347136
Or, you know, the english wiki. >>147343323 is talking about the translated games, recommending the jap wiki is pointless.
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>>147348527
I think he is talking about lore stuff that isn't mentioned in-game.
Isn't the /haniho/ wiki based completely on what the games say?
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>>147348794
The wiki has pretty much everything about the lore.
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10th for Rance X
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>>147317796
REALLY FUCKING ANGRY
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>>147349284
That must be pretty new.

Anyway, who wrote this:
>A defensive system called the Mazeel Line starts being constructed to prevent more invasions from the Monster Realm.

That's the Maginot line
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>>147353807
I think it is previous to the Maginot Line.
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>>147353946
マーゼルライン

Wouldn't write that as Mazeel but still stand corrected
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Anyone thought that the Tenshi Sect is retarded as fuck? Giving things like the gourds to small families, that feud between themselves intermittently for generations, to protect from whatever? SR clearly shows that it didn't work nor that anyone took that duty seriously.
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>>147354328
To be fair, the families that had them used to be large or are still large like Uesugi, Takeda, Mouri or Houjou.

Also, considering a monkey had to wait on its ass for like sixty years or so for a random chance meant that they were relatively well-guarded.
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>>147353807
It was first called the Mazeel Line and after the RedEye Dark was upgraded and renamed as Maginot Line.
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>>147354328
It worked for centuries, so they were clearly taking it seriously.
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>>147354238
How does that translate to romaji?
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Rance making all his male friends genderswap at the sex-change temple and then fucking them when
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>>147355118
maazerurain, where rain in line and the rest is Mazel or Marcel or something.
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>>147355118
Maazerurain
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>>147355274
Marcelo Line would fit nicely.
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>>147355962
Google tells me Maazel is an actual name, so that probably would translate it best.
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>>147356267
>Maazel
>Japanese pornmakers are into western classic music
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>>147356437
Well there's Veethoven in Daiteikoku
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>>147343323
Kichikuou and just hanging round the threads
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Playing SR after playing everything else (translated) is making it much more enjoyable. A little lore knowledge really helps.
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>>147337686
Well no, I don't expect to see Am. Don't really know why you figure the Rance IX heroines or Lia would fit that same category as they're all still at large.
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>>147340214
Feet is in the top 10 certainly, but there's still shit like guro, ryona, watersports, bodywriting, netorare etc that precede it.

Thinking about it what with how obnoxious it's fanbase has been the last few years, netorare is still steadily climbing to the top of the worst fetishes out there.
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>>147358767
Especially Lia.

Like really large.
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>>147358767
Don't know why you think Kamilla's story is over when someone stronger than Rance swearing vengeance on him means nothing.

>>147358113
The foreigner who takes the sword from one of the dungeons is Thoma Lipton (the guy Rance kills in III) and his son is Hubert from Rance IV
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>>147358971
I realized that today.
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>>147358971
Wasn't the sword Shiranui too?
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>>147359157
It is.
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>>147358767
Because their stories are just as over as Kamilla's is by your logic. Aside from Milacle and Pigu (Who nobody cares about anyway) pretty much everything was already covered for the rest of them.

Rance fucking off half-way across the world to go to Leazas Castle and fuck a pregnant Lia in an RPG style game that's supposed to take place largely in the Monster Realm is about as non-sensical if not more non-sensical than thinking sealed characters will re-appear
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>>147359396
What about a pregnant Lia going all the way to the Monster Realm?
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>>147359157
>>147359339
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>>147359869
That katana looks very straight.
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Is sealed characters returning really considered so unlikely when there are feasible explanations to how it would happen or why it would be plot relevant?

It's not like it'd be the first time people managed to get unsealed from shit, basically happens every other game at this point anyways.
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>>147358971
Yea because someone who is defeated swearing vengeance MUST mean they actually get a chance to carry it out, it surely couldn't possibly just be a loser talking tough until the very end, nope, they're going to get to carry out their petty threats.

>>147359396
>Pretty much everything was already covered
Yea sure, if you ignore their role in coming events, their coming children etc. We all know the Isoroku route completely shut down and ended the moment she got pregnant because her story was told, right? :^)

Lia as usual will find some way to show up, her inclusion in IX proves as much. Whether or not she gets an actual scene is still in the cards, though it will probably be around the epilogue if anything. Sen is obviously not going anywhere, Pigu has nowhere else to really go, Miracle just got introduced and is a rather significant player that's clearly been set up for a larger role, Kanami has been in every single main Rance game.

The only Rance IX heroines that would plausibly be left out are Shizuka (arguably her story is told, she just lives happily ever after with Nagi somewhere) and Sheila (no real reason to interact with her much beside some conversation scenes here and there)
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>>147360046
Everything 'could' happen, it's a question of whether or not it will.

Again, give me one good reason why anyone would go out of their way to unseal Kamilla, Gele (again) or Am (who was arguably a rushed antagonist to make RQ have a more important story)

Yes, they have things they could or would want to do if they get unsealed but literally every other character in the setting has things they could be doing and to dredge up previously defeated antagonists sounds like something you'd see in a fanfic.
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>>147360062
>Thinks Pigu is going to get more of a role in the game than the #1 popular heroine from Rance IX
>This level of delusion
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I have a question about SR.

Some time ago one anon said that All Guard was shit. Why is that?
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>>147360062
In fiction adding a scene where a powerful enemy vows vengeance is generally added for a purpose

>>147360401
Main argument for Gele would be the gods bringing her back given we already know that they have 0 trouble releasing someoneone from there.

Am would be to do with the fact she's a strong individual with a common enemy. I think she's less likely than Gele who isn't too likely but Kamilla on the other hand is quite likely to get released.

What they do with her after that is up to debate.
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>>147359869
>bubble but
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>>147360062
>shizuka getting left out
>Sheila getting left out

Yeah nah
Even if we ignored that she appears in this image
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Ithere's almost certain appearance in X (in before you go just because they deliberately showed him to still be alive doesn't mean he will appear) will have him have some sort of interaction with Shizuka whose story with Rance was blatantly left unfinished anyway.

Plus Kathtom is going to be dragged into things.
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>>147360582
It doesn't suit his playstyle
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>>147360401
Kayblis has a motive to want her unsealed especially if the fight starts going bad for them, whether or not they'd actually be able to get into Zeth to do that is another matter entirely though they do have apostles like Aurora still running around in the human world.

Again, I'm not saying "Oh this is DEFINITELY going to happen" but rather "There is justifiable reason to see how this might become a thing". It doesn't take a significant amount of warping the plot or forcing some ridiculous angle to create a situation where Kamilla somehow gets unsealed like it would for other characters.

I definitely don't expect Gele to return unless they really feel like following up on whatever it is she was going to say at the end of Rance 03 for some reason. Mainly because the only people interested in releasing her already tried that and she doesn't offer an advantage or ally to either side.

Am, really depends on whether or not they want to do anything with Ludo or if they're going to just totally ignore that aspect of KR and just focus on the Dark Lords.
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>>147361073
Actually Ithere been implied to be "dead" (as in demon blood soul form). But yes, he will likely appear in some form.
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>>147360538
I don't think Pigu is going to get a significant role at all, probably going to be just like Alkanese in IX. What I said is that it's plausible for Shizuka to not get much screentime as there isn't really much left to do with the character beside returning to normal, there simply isn't any progression of her character in the cards as her main plot line of Nagi is now resolved and she doesn't have much else going on (and hey, Shizuka is best girl so this upsets me, but dems the facts)

>In fiction adding a scene where...
Bullshit mate, more often than not a defeated big bad will swear some kind of eternal vengeance at the end only to never ever get it, it's nothing more than a typical villain's exit cliche. What else would you expect? 'welp, you got me, good fight Rance!' and that's the end? Come on now, you're taking wishful thinking way too far here and are just sounding deluded.

>The gods bringing her back
Yea they just randomly decide to do that for 'reasons' because we need an excuse to bring Gele back because we desperately need a... what role would she even fulfill? Let's face it, there is no fucking need to bring Gele back, the fact that she 'could' be brought back is no argument for the fact that she will be.

>>147360883
Sure, but they'll probably be minor roles like Shizuka and Lia in SR and RQ (vanilla) and not do a whole lot of plot related things. The point wasn't that they wouldn't make an appearance, the point was that their story was largely concluded.
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>>147360401
>give me one good reason why anyone would go out of their way to unseal Kamilla,
Kay-chan wants his trophy wife, one of his reasons for want to become demon king is most likely being able to fuck her.
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Pigu is most likely going to end up like Kibiko, that is living in the Rance castle just playing with the residents. Don't forget that Kibiko was more popular and she still didn't even get a mention in IX
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>>147361415
>whether or not they want to do anything with Ludo or if they're going to just totally ignore that aspect of KR and just focus on the Dark Lords.
Creator Phase in KR is definitely going to be adapted in X.
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>>147361532
Shizuka and Nagi's final plot point will be Rance returning them to adults
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>>147361415
>The fight starts to go bad
>Okay guys lets break through the Maginot Line and fight our way into the heart of Zeth to find where they sealed Kamilla and free her in hopes that she will be amicable to our cause :^)

Now that you mention it, I see nothing wrong with that scenario at all!

I really doubt they will do anything with Ludo, not only would that mean tackling the philosophical concept of existing without purpose (they all exist to entertain Ludo) but the setting has been pushing the argument that humans are interesting enough on their own without involvement from demons and other such bollocks.

There'd be very little reason to actually go and fight Ludo and they haven't done nearly enough to preface the story going in that direction. If it were to happen it means Rance X not only needs to tell this massive story of the invasion of the monster realm, but also tell the entire story of conflict with Ludo right from the start, making the plot overall a disjointed mess at best.
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Who is Am?
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>>147361831
>Kibiko
So unpopular people don't even remember her name
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>>147362002
So you're suggesting that their final plot and entire relevance in X is going to involve retreading the Shizuka ending of IX.

That sounds fucking terrible mate, why would anyone even think to do that shit? That'd be the most pointless bollocks ever, if they wanted to go that route why not just make the Shizuka end part of the canon outcome of IX.
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>>147362074
Yeah, I didn't use her much so I don't remember how to spell the name but she was popular.

>>147362187
>why would anyone even think to do that shit?
Because Rance wants to fuck them, they don't need any other reason than that.
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>>147362041
Final boss of Rance Quest Magnum. An ex pope of the AL church that started a massive ploy to cause soul corruption in people so they couldn't reincarnate anymore as an act of rebelling against the 'system'
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>>147362015
There's nothing that massive about a story about invading the monster realm. Helman had more moving parts/intrigue surrounding it and that game was small in scope as fuck.

Unless they find a way to fuck around with a bunch of insignificant monster strongholds for whatever reason it's pretty cut and dry unless they start the game with the human realm getting attacked by a Monster Realm united under Kayblis rather than Satella coming to ask Rance for help as the Hornet Faction gets bent over.
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>>147361532
I only think Gele would come back as some sort of Demon King boss rush.

Shizuka's plot line with respect to Rance is still unfulfilled.
She's appear, be a party member, come to terms with the fact that she loves Rance, return to adulthood and have vanilla sex with Rance.

Obviously the plot isn't going

>>147361448
Demon blood soul is blatantly not dead.

The moment they specified that Noce's blood soul was destroyed but Ithere's wasn't it was quite likely he would return.

the other two blood souls (Kite and Abert seem like they were serve some purpose. Probably to be absorbed by someone else.

Kamilla is pretty much the only major villain with a personal grudge against Rance. The strongest enemy demon and probably main antagonist for most the game is besotted with her and will want to release her.

Silky or even Hornet are more likely to be used to show how strong and evil Kayblis is.
So Kayblis isn't going to just rape Kamilla on the spot.
Will probably try and keep her safe in his castle and try and kill the human who 'bullied' her.

She'll seek to betray hm but will be happy to set Kayblis and Rance off against each other.

Chances are the Demons are going to invade humanity and will make inroads in both Helman and Zeth.
It's not a very interesting game of the Demons aren't winning at some point.
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>>147362321
>Because Rance wants to fuck them
Sounds like something that'll be part of the epilogue/ending, not part of the main story.

Again, you're suggesting they literally retread a story they've told before, I can't imagine much that'd be more pointless (I mean, I hate Shizuka being a loli as much as anyone, but let's be real here, that ship has sailed.)
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>>147361831
Rance IX was distinctly set in just Helman and even people they originally considered adding were removed because they had no reason to be in Helman (Rocky) or messed up he party balance.

Rance X isn't just going to be set in the demon realm.
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>>147362187
>why would anyone even think to do that shit?
Rance wants to fuck them.

>That'd be the most pointless bollocks ever
Not if they are trying to come up with a reason to bring them into X other than the whole extermination of humanity thing, You're delusional if you don't think Shizuka/Nagi will be one of the main members of the cast

>>147362015
>Now that you mention it, I see nothing wrong with that scenario at all!
Kayblis doesn't give a shit if she's amicable or not, she's his trophy and he wants his trophy. Also it wouldn't be the first time the monsters have suicided into the Maginot line.

>>147362581
>Sounds like something that'll be part of the epilogue/ending, not part of the main story.
Sounds like something that will happen during the story to me, why would not have the most popular female character in the series playable?
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>>147362015
The monster realm is just one big wasteland of fucking nothing, though. There's not going to be much other than one fight after another if it's just about Rance invading it.
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>>147362519
>Kite and Abert seem like they were serve some purpose. Probably to be absorbed by someone else.
That could just be that they don't have any means to deal with them other than sealing the blood souls. It's not like Miki is always around when a Demon is killed.
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>>147362015
Based on your appraisal you make it sound like the game is just going to be
>And then the monster realm got easily bent over by Rance without even putting up a fight against humanity

Unless they're actually putting pressure on humanity by attacking Helman/Zeth there's no reason to even go there other than "Satella asked me and the world was just obliged to follow me into this massive war to save some Dark Lord pussy"
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>>147362015
They will break through the Maginot Line and the Helman wall well before then.

Why wouldn't they bring in Ludo?

They've already made a point of showing ALICE and bringing the gods into it.
ALICE was already the bonus final boss of Magnum so what purpose would there be in making her the final boss of Rance X?

They dealt with Ludo in Kichikuou anyway.
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>>147362471
You need to remember that outside of KR there is really very little mention of Ludo at all, nor is there any implication that there will be a conflict with him.

People have been trying to predict the future based off of KR for years now only to be mostly wrong, and the current plot simply does not lend itself to a conflict with Ludo, they would be introducing/explaining him and the reasons for fighting him right at the very end of the series, having the final boss essentially come out of nowhere only to be dealt with in that same sitting and it would render the events of the previous games largely moot as well.

It could happen, sure, but it'd be really fucking terrible if it did. There is simply no way that it could be done right all in a single game even without the monster realm invasion being the focus of the game.
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>>147362581
The ship hasn't sailed.

It's literally only sailed in your own mind.

It's almost as if they haven't finished off Shizuka's relationship with Rance yet. Rance still didn't get her to admit anything.

What exactly do you even expect from Rance X?
Rance taking an elite unit to the demon realm right at the start of the game and the demons never invading anything and the gods never getting involved?
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>>147362978
Did you miss Magnum?

Did you miss all the hints about Rance fighting the gods in Magnum and 03?
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>>147362978
The story won't be the same as KR but there's some events that will have to happen due to the background lore, like Ludo going nuts if humanity beats the demons.
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>>147363302
or going nuts if you beat ALICE
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>>147362978
>Demons will be defeated like in the past with dragons and Ludo somehow will ignore it.
Yeah, makes perfect sense.
Are you the guy that said that humans are interested enough on their own that the Gods don't need Demons to create drama? I got news for you, Rance already united the human world. The Rance Castle is pretty much the world's capital at this point, and if the Demons are beaten, there's effectively 0 conflict in the world for as long as Rance lives, and Ludo got tired of dragons after a single year of peace, he's not going to wait until Rance dies through natural means.
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>>147363429
True but I doubt they'll reuse that.
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>>147362714
As I said before, Shizuka will be a character and party member, just as a non-H loli.

>Why would they not have the most popular female character in the series be playable
Stop ignoring the truths you already know. You know her story is at a dead end and you know she was mostly excluded from both SR as well as RQ.

>Kaybliss doesn't give a shit
Right, because someone not caring about a problem means it isn't there :^)

I shouldn't need to remind you that Kaybliss will be busy fighting Rance, has no idea where Kamilla is even sealed, how to get there etc. and he'd have to cross the Maginot line just for the off chance of being able to find her, meanwhile being embroiled in a fight over his homeland and whatever Hornet faction is going to be doing. Just because someone might want to do something doesn't mean he actually has the option to fucking do it.

>>147362856
Based on my appraisal you did some grasping and came up with stupid shit.

If anything the plot is going to revolve largely around Miki, which is one of the main unresolved plot points in the entire series that definitely WILL be seeing some resolution in X.

>>147362920
So you're suggesting that Kayblis faction not only defeats Hornet, but invades Helman and Zeth simultaneously... You're not seeing how this is just a liiiiittle bit of a stretch here, are you?

Also, the fact that they brought up Alice and other gods only makes it even less likely for Ludo to make an appearance, as his role would be redundant to them. The fact that they dealt with him in KR means fucking nothing, so much shit from KR ended up being completely changed or flat out never happening and there's a good reason why this game was a 'what if' route, because a lot of shit is just never going to happen.
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>>147363608
Don't forget that Ludo is already starting to get annoyed by Rance creatin minor problems and th
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>>147363803
>I shouldn't need to remind you that Kaybliss will be busy fighting Rance, has no idea where Kamilla is even sealed, how to get there etc
What do you think Aurora's reason for still being in the story is?

>Stop ignoring the truths you already know
I'm sorry but I don't see this truth you are talking about, All I see is Rance making Shizuka and Nagi adults again and fucking them in X.
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>>147363664
Which is why ALICE isn't the final boss

Hence someone higher ranked then her. Like Ludo or at least Planner.

Am's purpose in the narrative is to be the person who introduces that the current system is blatantly wrong. You could say it's a similar role to Felton in Evenicle.

In X Rance and party will find out why it is wrong and then deal with that in some way.

Ludo was referenced in VI and was again in Magnum when ALICE gets beaten. It's clear that he's the big boss behind ALICE who is an enemy.

He doesn't need any more direct references for the player to establish him because KR told everyone he existed.
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>>147363803
To be fair, Helman in it's current state could be beaten by Red Eye alone and it's not the first time Medusa has fucked over Zeth.
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>>147362978
What was the point of making Chaos a sword that can kill Gods or whatever if Ludo or Ludo affiliated Gods are going to have NO appearance or role in Rance X

You also ignored the fact that if you're going to argue that "Ludo will not be involved" then the potential scope of the game gets even smaller since your stance was also "Helman and Zeth being attacked will not happen".
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>>147364012
You poor sod, I'll not try anymore to break you from your vicious denial.
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It's getting really fuckin' stupid in here with everyone trying to predict everything.
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>>147364247
Since when can Chaos kill gods? I thought it was just dark lords and demon kings.
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>>147364425
Am did a ritual in Magnum to enable him to be able to attack angels, Why do you think Chaos was stabbing Feliss?
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>>147363803
Unless Miki is used as a plot device to make Rance or Kayblis Demon King there isn't much for her to do past what she did in Sengoku Rance, ie be there and be a plot device for some shit to happen with Blood Souls or cause drama by being mentally unstable and have Kentarou be an ally. And probably figure out why Gi chose her.
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>>147364247
I've made my case that the game is going to be about Miki rather than introducing a whole new villain and major plotline right in the finale.

Really though, why the fuck did everyone collectively forget about Miki? The ONE character that'd undeniably, irrefutably, be one of the main players in X if they want to resolve everything. I just don't see them dealing with all that shit only to pack it up and start a whole fresh conflict with a fucking god, remember all the shit you had to go through in KR which spanned years and went all across the continent, the opportunities of which have all passed without so much as a mention of Ludo. To then go back and condense that all into a single plotline at the end of dealing with the monster realm and Miki... It'd be a disaster.
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>>147364535
I see. I'm not the guy you were talking to, I haven't played Magnum.
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>>147362015
>tackling philosophical concept of existing without purpose

To be fair, that is a pretty weak argument on why Ludo would not be brought into.
It's not like the humans know that they exist to do that. They have their own concept about that.
Everything else makes sense though.
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>>147364382
Well at least everybody is bring up plausible things.

>>147364617
Well Miki has always been a plot device so that's nothing new, she's doomed either way and X should show the outcome.

>>147364724
I know, I'm not even the guy you asked. Just answering the Question
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>>147363803
Kayblis faction will crush Hornet faction as it did in KR and then invade Zeth and Helman as a lot of the demons have wanted to do for some time.

Shizuka won't stay as a loli. That's crazy. Did you also think Sill would stay frozen?

Miki is just going to be an excuse for the Demons to directly search for her to kill her.
She's not going to be anymore important than in KR.

Kayblis has literally taken all of Zeth on his own before. The Maginot Line is the only issue there but fucking PI-R can build satellites.

What you're going to find is that humanty's defences only worked because of Gi and later Hornet.

Back to Shizuka and there is an established method from KR to makeing someone an adult. One they no longer have a reason to use on Mill.
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>>147364707
They've spent more effort building up Ludo as an enemy than they have Miki.

Miki will just be an excuse to have Satella not be with Hornet when Hornet loses and to approach Rance and seek his help.
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Random question, why does the Maginot line even work when a strong demon like Kayblis could just IF the magic canons and break the line solo?
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>>147364724
Am did that because Am wants to take down the gods. But apparently having a whole major plot pointing out why the system as it is wrong and making Rance's sword capable of killing gods and have the gods want to kill Rance and have Willis think that Rance could possibly become strong enough to kill gods isn't a hint.
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>>147365037
Because Gi generally manages to control his demons and since Gi has died Kayblis has been kept in check by Hornet.

And given Pi-R has the technology to build satellites there is no reason why a fully, focused demon invasion will be stopped.
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>>147364707
Because including Miki doesn't really change anything as Sengoku Rance already showed. Because the only way she can actually be an asset is basically a lose condition for her and Kentarou, in addition to all of humanity.

All she adds is a vehicle to get rid of Blood Souls without sealing them, or alternatively she adds a headache in terms of her mentally instability and an alternate win-condition for Kayblis. She's like the Flag in a Capture the Flag game, she'll be there but she isn't doing much other than providing parameters for victory and defeat.

>>147363803
Kayblis faction has probably had the upper hand on Hornet's faction since the conflict started. The whole point of them (allegedly) going after Chaos in Rance 3 was that it would help balance the scales for them considering Kayblis' side has both more Dark Lords and arguably stronger Dark Lords.

Also it's not that much of a stretch to say they can easily fuck over both Helman and Zeth when the only reason why they haven't done so already is because the in-fighting takes priority.

Single Dark Lords attacking these countries alone are major historical incidents, to say that a Monster Realm that is united couldn't easily fight a multiple front war on humanity is a stretch. Especially since every time the Monster Realm has ever been united humanity was always quickly subjugated and/or pushed to the bring of annihilation aside from Gi who pulled out.

>>147365037
Presumably the Dark Lords could rampage in there to their hearts content - but when they tire they could be sealed relatively easily.
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>>147364804
>Shizuka wouldn't stay a loli
I imagine she gets returned to normal near the end, I doubt she will play a major role. Alicesoft have shown time and again that they don't really know what to do with the character and have barely shoehorned her into SR and RQ due to popular demand. With her one main storyline (Nagi) resolved I'm just not seeing anything happening beyond 'she's no longer a loli (again) which is epilogue material more than anything.

>Miki is just going to be an excuse
She's one of the, if not the most important players in the setting beside Rance and with the promise that X would resolve all the outlying plots Miki is definitely the prime candidate, going back all the way to little princess with hers.

Chances are her becoming the demon king at some point, as I doubt they'll either find a way to fix her or keep the status quo in tact.

>They have a way to return Shizuka to being an adult
And as I've said many times before that just because there's a way for something to happen doesn't mean there's a reason for it. In terms of story progression what's there to do with Shizuka beside returning to pre-loli IX status quo and maybe finally admitting she loves Rance. All of that shit is just a paragraph in the epilogue, rather than an actual plot point.

>Kayblis has literally taken all of Zeth on his own before
Fact is the circumstances are nothing like how they were in KR, and the argument that there will be a complete invasion of Zeth (again) just to revive a villain that has been dealt with is... well the chance is nonzero, I'll give you that...
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>>147365670
If Miki becomes Demon King there's really not much that can happen outside of "Game Over" or "She kills Kayblis and then gets raped or killed by Rance"

She's definitely going to be in the game, but there's no real way to incorporate her in a particularly meaningful way without basically removing the need to have the game to begin with.
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>>147366027
LP won't kill Kayblis as shown by SR, she'll just punish him.
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>>147365670
Because her other main storyline is her relationship with Rance which hasn't yet been fully resolved.

You are correct that she's not going to have a lot of the plot dedicated to her. But she will be a party member and she will be able to finally admit her feelings to Rance which she currently still rejects and will be reverted to human.

It will happen during the game because it's not going to just be 100% linear plot relevant only.

The main reason for the demons invading humanity is 1. Make it easier to get hold of Miki 2. It's what they want to do anyway and 3. It builds them up as even more of a threat and makes for a more interesting game.
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>>147366342
Also part of the resolution for Shizuka is related with Maria, IX shows that part of the reason she doesn't want to accept her feelings is because she is worried about how Maria would feel about it.

And on the event that has Maria's ero scene, Maria herself think that while she accepted that Rance is going to keep doing all kinds of girls and Sill is more special to him than the others, she isn't sure how she would feel if her close friend, Shizuka liked Rance too.
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>>147366027
Way I see it Miki becomes Demon King and either ends up like Gi did or ends up killed by Rance who then becomes Demon King in a sort of villain route.

I imagine the game kicks off with the defeat of Hornet by Kayblis and Rance ends up getting involved (more or less as described at the end of the Isoroku route in SR) since the demons have little to stop them from invading the human lands. Rance both having matured a lot as a character over the course of IX as well as wanting to get it on with the Hornet faction girls.

Fighting breaks loose on many fronts (traveling around the world dealing with shit in multiple areas similar to RQ) and at some point Miki gets involved (likely through association with Satella who is close with Hornet) and the plot will start to gravitate towards the idea of Miki needing to end the chaos and infighting by taking up the mantle of the demon king, the game then deals with how to do that properly without her losing her mind.

The second half then becomes about Rance trying to put Miki in charge of the monster realm without her going full Demon king. Alternatively you can replace Miki with Hornet herself here, to keep with the theme of Rance fucking the leader of every country in the world and placing them at the top, which I don't really see happening with Miki as long as Kentarou is around and I don't see how he'd get removed without Miki going full Demon king.

Another major theme is doubtlessly going to be dealing with the removal of the Demon's invulnerability field, hinted at in Arm's epilogue as well as it being somewhat of a necessity for humanity to even have a fighting chance.

The main thing that's left uncertain imo is whether or not angels will start to get involved, and while I really don't think it's ever going to come down to defeating Ludo (beside it being a non-canon post-game goal like defeating ALICE in RQ) chances are some elements of divinity are going to join the fray at some point.
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>>147367228
This is starting to sound less like a Rance game and more like a Miki game
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>>147367525
Surely you didn't forget how ALL this shit started, doubtlessly it's going to be a important part of the end.
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>>147367525
Don't you remember IX being a Patton game?
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>>147367228
I can't see Rance going through all this shit for Miki unless there's something in it for him, which it doesn't really seem like there is.

And no, he hasn't matured nearly enough to just do this out of the kindness in his heart nor would he give enough a fuck about what happens about the chaos or infighting in the demon realm unless Satella recruited him into it or he's getting promised sex from someone for all this shit.

Miki also gaining control without becoming Demon King doesn't do anything to help Sill. It also doesn't fulfill the wishes of the Hornet faction nor provide Miki any real safety net other than Kentarou and whoever in the Hornet Faction is willing to serve the Not!Demon King Miki.
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>>147368028
>Unless there's something in it for him
Beside the thought that he'd get to fuck Miki at long last? The Hornet girls (including Satella)? The fact that Kayblis is set to trample on everything he holds dear?

Yea you're right, Rance has no reason to get involved!

>Doesn't do anything to help Sill
What? Why would anyone need to do anything to help Sill? She got unfrozen at the end of IX you dingleberry.

>Nor provide any real safety net
Building that 'safety net' is going to be the main point of the game, both through killing Kayblis and friends and setting Miki up for the role by establishing allies (I.e Hornet etc)
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>>147368356
If he wants to fuck Miki then helping her create a nice and safe playpen of a monster realm with Kentarou still there isn't really the best way to accomplish that
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>>147368356
>Kayblis is set to trample on everything he holds dear
Didn't you just get finished arguing not that long ago that Kayblis was no threat to Helman or Zeth
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>>147368560
Did you not play any other Rance games at all? Since when has a girl being in a relationship stopped Rance from planning to fuck them?

Did you completely forget about Bird (Bard?) Noel? (though she's more or less been retconned in 03) and dozens of other examples throughout the series?

Rance probably figures he shows her his cool side and she'll ditch Kentarou for him, as he has in the past. Hell, it'll probably involve some form of 'accident' being set up for Kentarou and hilarously backfiring as usual.
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>>147367968
I also remember Purin loving Patton a lot and Patton actually being reasonably popular.

>>147367640
Yeah. Kayblis.

Miki is the plot device.
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>>147368780
Just like he fucked Hanty
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>>147367968
Patton is Purin's self insert
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It's pretty clear that the guy is just taking the piss at the moment.
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>>147368686
In case you didn't pay attention let me repeat that it's not the fact that Kayblis isn't a threat, rather that him going so far as trampling Zeth to the point where he gets the opportunity to unseal Kamila, mostly because of the fact that Rance would step in long before he gets that far.
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Rance can't even beat Kamilla without outside interference.

How is he going to do shit to stop Kayblis at that point in the game?

Apparently Rance is going to do all this to get into Miki's pants while just letting Shizuka stay a loli.

Apparently Ludo and the gods are perfectly fine with this resolution and won't appear.

I'm glad you have no part in making Rance X because it will be the shittest game in the series if you have your way
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>>147369373
>Waaaaah it's not like I imagined it in my head so it's all senseless and terrible!
Keep your pants on lad, you're rambling nonsense at this point and repeating arguments that have already been refuted.
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>>147369509
Nope. You haven't managed to refute anything.

But you did do a pretty good job keeping this going as long as you did.
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>>147365596
>She's like the Flag in a Capture the Flag game, she'll be there but she isn't doing much other than providing parameters for victory and defeat.
That's the most accurate description of Miki I've ever seen.
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>>147369808
>N-no y-you didn't... b-because I say so!
Strong words.

Listen lad, if you want to drop out of the argument just stop talking and keep your damn dignity in tact, this pitiable filibustering is just a tragedy.
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>>147370002
No because you've never once adequately managed to explain why the gods won't be involved and why there won't be any invasion of humanity.
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>>147370259
If that's what you choose to believe then by all means, carry on. Your lack of coherent refutation of the points raised only to then desperately proclaim a kind of victory is just pathetic, and I fail to see any reason to keep this shit going.

Believe what you will, this is ultimately nothing but speculation regardless of what either of us may think.
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>>147369509
>>147370002
it's funny because you're both doing the same thing
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>>147367640
IIRC, all this started like this.
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>>147370621
>Killing Kayblis is just some random sidejob Rance is doing for money
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>>147368028
>he's getting promised sex from someone for all this shit.
Satella could tell him that he will get to do all the demon girls from her faction. That will get him pumped enough.
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>>147370478
I'm not the one obfuscating the fact that my points were refuted the way you have the last couple of posts.

The fact that we're all speculating is correct. But some things are more predictable than others. And a demon invasion of humanity and the gods getting involved in he game are two of them.

Gele and Am appearing is wishful thinking. Kamilla appearing is probable but what her role is going to be is highly debatable.
Shizuka returning to an adult is close to guaranteed
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>>147370752
If KR is any indication she'd rather Rance just become Demon King and take them all himself rather than get them through some bargaining through helping with Miki thing

Also the Hornet Faction is probably not in any condition to make demands or negotiate with anyone by the time Rance would get involved.
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>>147370949
>If KR is any indication
It's not, it's been so thoroughly refuted and altered in the later games that trying to predict the future based on KR at this point is utter folly.
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Hornet faction is going to be taken out fairly quickly so that Kaybliis can invade humanity
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>>147371096
He's trying to predict character actions, not the plot. I don't think Satella changed much from KR to canon.
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>>147370740
Of course a scrub like Kayblis is nothing but a tool to fill the pockets of a hero of justice like Rance.
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>>147371164
Game will probably begin with them already being scattered/defeated
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>>147371164
I'm really not sure that's such a done deal, chances are just as likely that Rance gets involved when the fighting between the two factions is still ongoing. Keep in mind that in every other game the conflicts where always contained to the areas where it took place. 3 never went outside Leazas, 6 never went outside Zeth, 7 never left JAPAN and 9 never really left Helman outside of some minor scenes in Leazas, none of which actually involved Rance.
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>>147371096
Did IX really change that much?

Stessel still wanted to fuck his daughter and his end game was still going to the monster realm.

Mineva's plotline was much the same.

Patton was still rebelling.

Rolex had still previously fallen into an alcoholic mess of his wife.
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>>147371461
Nearly half of three was in the Free Cities.

Because Patton had reason to want to invade the Free Cities as well.

Similarly Kayblis will want to invade humanity
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>>147371347
>I don't think Satella changed much from KR canon
I'm not so sure about that, and the plot isn't the only thing that was completely overturned many times in later games, a lot of characters got complete redesigns and new personalities, take Magic or Tillday for example, or more significantly Kanami going from "the happy end is killing Rance" to her actually getting close to him.
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>>147371461
I think that it becomes "Too easy" if the Hornet faction is still stabilized at the start.

It also nullifies a major reason for Rance to get involved, which would be Monster Realm united by Kayblis being a threat.

The easiest way to lead into it would be Satella either coming to steal Chaos or directly asking Rance for help, which is only going to happen if things are grim.

Of course, if they start with the Hornet faction defeated that's basically the same as starting the game with Silky, Hornet and Sawzel already raped so maybe they'll find a way to make it in-between.
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>>147370949
Doesn't change the fact that if Rance is promised Demon pussy he's going to intervene. Hell, he might do it just by arriving to that conclusion himself. It's not unheard of to find Rance thinking that he will get to fuck a girl after helping her.
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>>147371815
Those are completely different situations, though. Magic and ~ were completely different from KR from their very first appearance in canon while Kanami took her sweet time to make those changes.
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>>147371892
Hornet could get injured and retreat
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>>147362519
>the other two blood souls

Rather the other four. Lexington and Burksham blood souls are also around, and especially the Burksham could return in X, because he could known the reasons why Gi brought Miki to the Continent.
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>>147371815
The reasons behind Kanami falling for Code are fairly similar to the ones behind her falling for Rance.

Her character is actually perfectly consistent between the two
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>>147371892
Well that's what I meant, Hornet is still fighting but on the verge of defeat, Rance gets recruited to turn the tide of battle simply because Hornet is desperate and Rance is one of few people who are actually capable of doing anything (not to mention she has a solid bargaining chip)

The main factors that we can speculate on is essentially who is going to be the 'trophy' or goal this time. And while I could argue that Miki is a candidate (I doubt Rance will really consider Kentarou) in all likelihood it's going to be Hornet herself, and I imagine her situation is going to end much like Sheila did, with her KR rape only happening in some kind of bad end.
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>>147371892
Hornet faction suffers a major loss and is forced to go underground, Kayblis claims victory and unites the Monster Realm.

Hornet basically orchestrates a minor resistance compared to her previous efforts while Satella goes to Rance for help.

Just turn Hornet Faction into Ice Flame 2.0
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>>147372003
~#*
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>>147372114
I think I read somewhere that Noce absorbed Burksham's soul.

Burksham isn't relevant he's just there to tie Little Vampire to the series.

Lexington is also not relevant
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>>147371096
Satella is pratically the same from KR. They just to give her Power Suit back
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>>147372236
Hornet makes more sense as the main prize to me, since she's been the de-facto leader this whole time anyway and is "New" whereas Miki has appeared before already.

I wouldn't be surprised if they throw in a Little Princess/Miki Rape Scene &/or Route in a NG+ or secret conditions though. It really depends on how ambitious they really are about the game which at present is not at all clear other than some random comments from TADA.
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>>147372236
The thing is that Rance is actually weak as far as someone like Hornet is concerned.

The whole reason Satella needs Rance's help in Quest is because Satella and Caesar are too strong to capture those bugs without killing them so they need someone weaker to do it.
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>>147372248
Almost makes sense if it wasn't for the fact that everyone in Ice Flame were shit fighters compared to Rance, whereas now he's allying with Demons that are a lot stronger than himself (Satella's apostle trashed Rick), unless they all end in wheelchairs.
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>>147372529
Yeah, but out of people they'd actually be able to negotiate or receive help from he's strong. Him having a track record of fighting Dark Lords alone is already enough to gamble on for them assuming they're in a dire position (Which, if the game is happening there is no reason for them not to be)

He's also able to be as strong as he wants when he's serious so it's not like they're recruiting some scrub to their cause. Also depends on how much they're aware of Rance's political clout over there.
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>>147360582
>Some time ago one anon said that All Guard was shit. Why is that?
5 Star. One All Guard user won't guarantee that all of your vulnerable units don't get hit (and often, hence killed) but two Ally Guard Plus users will.
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Can Nikkou return to her human form in canon?
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>>147372731
Maybe they expect him to be a distraction while they recuperate or something until things go better than expected, then they slowly trickle in allies to help.

There are ways to make it work rather than making it "Rance shows up and Hornet, Silky, Satella, Sawzel, etc. all join your party immediately" or "Any interaction with the Hornet faction is 100% absent until the end of the game"
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Chaos's ability to break IF is valuable in itself.
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>>147365596
>Presumably the Dark Lords could rampage in there to their hearts content - but when they tire they could be sealed relatively easily.
>sealed
Isn't that Japan only?
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>>147372765
Ah, i see.
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>>147372529
Regardless, Rance holds Chaos and I'm expecting Kentarou and Miki to either already be working with Hornet or recruiting them is going to be part of X.

It also depends a bit on Ithere, since he's one of the few people capable of connecting the dots from the demon factions side of things on who defeated Gele (and himself, in a ways)

As far as I'm aware there aren't a lot of people aware of Rance's lack of level cap, and I somewhat expect this to become a fairly significant plot point in X, and then the other major point of interest is Arms' epilogue in Quest (about her killing a demon without use of Chaos/Nikkou) which to me implies that finding a means to circumvent the demons' invulnerability field will be somewhat likely.
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>>147372935
No, AL church have a sealing method as shown in III/03.
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Game starts with Kayblis about to win, possibly because of Flame Scrivener betraying Hawzel. Hornet is badly injured.

Sillky convinces Hornet that she needs to escape and protect Miki. Satella takes Hornet and runs and Sillky buys them some time to do so.

Kayblis rapes Sillky out of frustration before deciding to invade humanity to make it easier to find Miki and because as RWN said he's been feeling quite agitated about Kamilla's absence and he enjoys invading humanity anyway.

So the start the attack.

Satella realises she needs help so comes to Rance Castle.

Hornet is unable to help in battles for most the early part of the game due to her injuries.
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>>147372865
No.
Kentarou a virgin
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>>147372865
No, if Rance was smart he'd go see the Planner about that.

>>147372935
No, prior to Chaos/Nikkou/Hero System the only way humanity could fight back against Dark Lords was to tire them out and seal them. The entire Holy Magic Sect strategy was basically "Create shit that can fight on par with Dark Lords until they're tired enough to be sealed".
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>>147372865
No, but she and Chaos might recover their humanity at the end of the game.
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>>147373161
Is Rance even aware of Planner in cannon?
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>>147373354
No, unless Chaos shared the story and I forgot

Though Rance probably wouldn't even care
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>>147373354
He might not be but Crook certainly does. Not that Crook would tell him
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>>147373428
Rance doesn't give enough shits about men to remember even if Chaos had told him.

He knew that Patton was the former Prince of Helman and he knew that Sheila was the new Empress of Helman but he couldn't put two and two together and realise that Patton and Sheila were siblings.
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>>147373058
What about gotta go fast
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I think Hornet getting raped by Kayblis in canon would be enough to traumatize me
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>>147372350
I'm not sure what happened to Burksham's soul. But if he is still around he could become important, I remember reading somewhere that Gi actually told him what the fuck he is trying to do. Also we pretty much know nothing about Burksham, Alicesoft would probably need to create him from scratch and they could turn him into someone interesting and/or strong.

I agree that Lexington is completely not relevant, but neither Kite or Abert is. Still if someone in X is going to search for blood souls, then Lexington's apostles and his blood soul could appear. Through I think this is unlikely.
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>>147374352
Why? It already happened in KR.
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>>147375275
It couldn't be helped in KR, in the current timeline there's more than enough time and reason to be able to prevent it

Rance didn't even get to fuck her in KR
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>>147375478
The situation isn't really that different to KR in that regard.
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>>147375275
Because Sheila got a happy end, Hornet deserves one too
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Hornet is getting fucked
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>>147378420
by who
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>>147378769
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>>147374437
>>147380117
Thanks for coming all the way here to clear this up, TADA.
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>>147373197
are we sure that she can't?
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>>147378219
QT
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>>147380991
Yes.
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>>147380117
delete this
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>>147380117
That's a big guy
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>>147381995
For Rance.
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>>147382437
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>>147382542
Now i want to fuck Kamilla more.
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>>147382708
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>>147382542
Medusa is still fuckable
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>>147382813
Nah, she is cute in the other image
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>>147382542
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>>147383408
Fucking Lupin III in there
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>>147382542
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>>147384426
>>147383408
Alkanese scene in X or riot
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>>147385669
Unlikely.
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>>147385748
>No Alkanese in X
>No Kamilla in X
>Sill guaranteed 3-4 scenes
Game is already looking like shit
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>>147386140
>No Kamilla in X

Still very much doubt this.

Hornet might end up with that body type as well.
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>>147386140
Fuck off then.
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>>147386140
They should have killed when the chance was there
They shoud have let her frozen forever when the chance was there
We would have no more Sill
We would have Demon King Rance
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>>147386573
I'm actually kind of interested in how IX based on the original canon end of Quest would have gone
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>>147386140
But Alkanese will have an H-scene with Medusa.
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Not yet
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Where does Alkanese even live, in Rance Castle or is she just around?
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>>147390546
Rance Castle.
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>>147390546
>>147390725
Pretty sure she doesn't live in Rance Castle.

Hence why she ended up running into Crook around the start of Rance IX
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>>147390546
She was hired by Crook so presumably she's with Crook.
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>>147390546
The wiki (Read: Evaluate with caution) lists her as a resident, but Rance castle has a lot of guest rooms so who knows.
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How do i get into the other routes in SR? I'm trying to do Ran first as you guys say that it is the worst.
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>>147392301
Check the wiki, it explains with details how to get into each route.
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>>147392301
You have to complete the true route once
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>>147392479
Already did that. I'm not THAT new.
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Why is it that Shizuka is pretty much always holding her hat with her right hand or crossing her arms?
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>>147393934
Average edgy tumblr gurl
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>>147393934
>or crossing her arms?
Unconsciously emphasizing her breasts
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>>147383267
Have I finally found my comrade in arms
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>>147394169
obviously does it around Rance a lot
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>>147394440
Medusa has always been fuckable, it's just if it happens or not.
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>>147394579
She's kinda tall...
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>>147394737
A man can dream anon
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>>147394737
Tall women are good as long as their body is in proportion.
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>>147393934
>Nagi is a Kathom girl
Why?
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>>147394737
Rance please
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>>147394737
Bigger is better
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>>147395034
Just shoved in there because she's Shizuka's sister and she was the cover girl for Rance II
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>>147390546
Rance Castle needs to be a more lively place. Rance gotta get more heroines to live there.
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>>147362041
Best girl
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>>147396158
I thought it was some weird nickname you had given her. Typing just "Am" in the wiki finds nothing.
It's like the search engine thinks it is "am" as in "be" and bugs out.
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>750+
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>>147362015
>There'd be very little reason to actually go and fight Ludo and they haven't done nearly enough to preface the story going in that direction
>Am
>Tenshi Sect
>Devil
What more do you want? It wont be a """"finale"""" if there is still a giant fucking whale that has the potential to fuck everything up
Not to mention Kayblis fight alone wont move the plot that further
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>>147396598
New Thread
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>>147396405
http://alicesoft.wikia.com/wiki/Am_Isuel
She is there.
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>>147396629
I found her by going through Crook
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>>147396527
It's not supposed to move further, it's supposed to be resolved. Opening a completely now plotline during the finale is some of the worst shit you can do as a writer, and Ludo has only been a major plot point during KR.

I mean you really expect them to go, halfway through the game; "oh yea there's totally also this giant space whale that you were all created to entertain that you now gotta go fight for these following reasons, good luck!"

It's just not happening mang.
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>>147396783
>Killing the demon king/lord
>Resolve anything
And the giant whale was introduced too many fucking time, with lots of people want his head senpai. He's what need to be RESOLVED the most
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