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Previous : >>147098650

>Can I play the game now?
YES YOU CAN (Get it on steam!)

TOS Info: http://pastebin.com/3YcrrJkd
This includes more detailed information, as well as tools, resources, patch notes and official links.

>What is Tree of Savior?
Tree of Savior is an action MMORPG with a lot of classes, cute hats and autism grinding.

>Add-ons:
https://github.com/Excrulon/Tree-of-Savior-Addon-Manager

>Cards List:
http://pastebin.com/PrCkZ21n

>English patch for kTOS
https://forum.treeofsavior.com/t/general-ktest-thread/124575/645

>Servers
- kTOS - Server : Vakarine (Upside down "A" in gookspeak)
- iTOS: Klaipeda (NA), Fedimian (EU), Telsiai (SEA) , Orsha (NA)

>Official Translation Project - https://github.com/Treeofsavior/EnglishTranslation
Helping in the translation will speed up international server updates and remove unwanted machine-translated text. There are also rewards for contributors, further explained on the github page.

>/tosg/ Guilds info
There is no /tosg/ guild in Varena/Silute, if you want one, either wait for someone to make one or roll a templar.
If your guild is recruiting, please post recruitment notice in the thread.
>Klaipeda
Futureproof (Lolipan)
FOE (Jinsae)
Clover (Karga)
Cake (DeliciousCake)
CuteNotLewd (Plasmagica)
Empire (Louvain)
TakeItEasy (Moonie_)
>Orsha
Kotatsu (Colyo)
>Fedimian
CoffeeHouse (Capyba)
>Telsiai
Comfy (Katzenberg)

Good builds :
>Wizard and Archer still unedited, Discuss in thread before using
http://pastebin.com/aGk6Ku7c

Remember to REPORT and IGNORE shitposters instead of giving them the attention they want and helping them shit up the thread.
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>/tosg/ discord
https://discord.gg/0heefDqe35vj9Raj
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BIG
FAT
KABBALIST
TATS
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Lalamoooooooo
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>>147150754
DELETE THIS!

I am not even Lala
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>There are already people in game that have Lolopanther gear
What have you been doing tosg? Too busy ERPing to care about the actual game?
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>>147151060
>Lolopanther
Shit, we got the name all wrong.
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>>147150690
>tats and not talts
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>>147151060
Yes
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>>147151150
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>>147151060
ERPing is the actual game though.
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>>147151321
now look at that faggot. i bet he doesnt get any ERP
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>>147151414
>No interactable furniture
>No couples emote
>No lewd costumes
>ERPing is the actual game

Nope
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Would this be alright for a full dex shinobi?
https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#1111449d.2f344a516a85.1a253a75.153555.1125314355
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R7 get! I hope it wasn't a mistake going monk c3. There's a good chance that Lama will be the hero ToS needs, right? Right?
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>>147151321
>not upgraded
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>>147151321
is the earth property att work like cafrisun?
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>>147151723
Play the game
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>>147151321
>elememe
It's easy modo, but okay.
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>Doing merc mission with another Fletcher besides myself
>Starts bragging about his gear
>Boss fights happen
>He always gets hit and cant hold aggro
>Calls me a cheater for doing more damage than him with shittier gear
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>>147151685
For your sake I hope so Koenig
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>>147151764
>Things I made up

No one talks in missions, silly anon.
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>>147151764
Did you tell him your secret that it's all about M M O T A N K?
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>>147151670
Sounds like someone have never went up to the second floor of Prontera inn and sat in a bed with their girl(boy)friend, with a chatroom above their head!
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>>147151875
I dunno, i always seem to get paired up with chatty people from Orsha
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>>147151978
Oh god. Don't remind me of my horny years. I want to leave it all behind.
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>>147151750
no
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>>147151754
but he pro no? pro no rich yes? upgrade cheep for pro yes?
>not upgraded
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>>147152125
The Game. Play it.
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>>147151671
There is no point in maxing Bash, you get very little damage from it. Leave Bash at 3 if you think you have a use for the Knockdown, otherwise only put 1 into it. Instead you should take 15 Concentrate and throw the rest into GungHo.
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>>147152067
You may leave games behind, anon, but the memories will always be part of you. That's why we play MMO's, no?

You will never ever escape them.
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>>147152125
You can't see enhancements when you investigate someone.
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>tosg claims they're too busy ERPing
>tosg is full of illiterate retards
>the only shit they come up with "weet weet" or "buzz buzz"
Fake fucks parroting memes. Disgusting.
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>>147152226
>memories will always be part of you

Not if you get dementia like my grandad
He can't even remember how old is he is or who is own daughter it.
And he thinks the person in the mirror is an actual guy in his bathroom.
It's pretty sad.
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>>147152310
*I slap your ass*
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>>147152125
it another player he cant see upgrade
i think in Ktos u can
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>>147152125
Don't play the game, just kill yourself retard.
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>>147152310
*has left*
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>>147152295
What really? I never knew this.
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>>147152475
You'd know if you played the game.
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>>147151685
>Lama
>Fluffy hair
Koenig is secretly an alpaca.
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>>147152152
>>147152398
How the fuck would I know something obscure like that is fucking broken.
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>>147151671
https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#1114419d.23334f596a85.1a283a5171.15213455.1125314355
I feel this is a better skill point allocation.
You only need 1 point in spear lunge since you only get it for the debuff.
Bash is not worth maxing because it will never have good damage, but it has decent utility at lv3 because of the knockdown attribute.
You can take the point out of long stride and get lv9 pierce if you'd like, since long stride only has PvP utility.
1 point in mordschlag for free crits on cloth armor enemies, but no more.

I would not recommend you start since imc plans on syncing iToS with kToS within the next month, and there was recently a notable shinobi change in kToS.

If you're really doing this I suggest prioritizing Hoplite2 before getting Sword3 since Sword3 sucks for anything other than PvP.

>>147152204
>throw the rest into Gung Ho
The majority of Gung Ho damage is from the attribute, not the skill level.
You could max it if you'd like, but higher levels really just save you money on SP pots since you don't have to recast as often.
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>>147152571
By playing the game.
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>>147152475
Just think anon, do you ever see the actual potential, durability, hat enchantment, upgrades, gems etc from inspecting other people? No.

It works in kTOS now though.
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>>147152594
>You could max it if you'd like, but higher levels really just save you money on SP pots since you don't have to recast as often.
It's still 3 phys damage per point, seems like a better investment than longer pain barrier on Shinobi to me. The extra uptime is only another bonus.
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>>147152528
>>147152705
I never actually gave it any thought, I just thought people I checked never upgraded their stuff.
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>moonie in charge of not being autistically mad that /jp/ wont jump onto his shitty guild
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>>147152705
That's a terrible patch. I hope they don't bring that to itos. I want my privacy.
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>>147151685
>>147152570
The cutest, fluffiest alpaca!
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Soon!
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>>147152748
Seeing as he needs to get hit to get his deeds up, he's gonna want a long pain barrier.
Longer pain barrier is more useful than 24 more damage per hit for most sword builds, especially later when 24 damage will be a 2% increase in damage at most.
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If you are interested in joining Fedimian guild pm me
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>>147152854
desu I'd get mad under the same circumstance too.
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>>147152854
No one cares about you /jp/ shit
Fuck off.
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>there are Koreans in this very thread
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>>147153173
I like that kurwa
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>>147153120
of what? I'm pretty sure if I advertised a guild I just had made in this game to /sp/ they wouldn't jump aboard either.
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How do I 'subscribe' to this game?
How do I into tokens? Do I need TP to get them?
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>>147153313
I would.
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>>147153349
Read the OP
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>>147153349
You need to use a Steam account.
Download the game client via Steam.
TP is needed to buy tokens, TP is sold as game DLC on Steam.
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>>147153441
Well I see the TP deals on steam.. Is the 10$ one enough for a token(month I assume)
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>>147153391
Well, you're an alright lad.
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>>147153045
Thats pretty Swell
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>>147152854
>>147153120
I don't get this shit, I played aika with /jp/'s hotglue. We were the top guild in their guild battle mechanicWe organised server wide raids on other regions
Aka was the most fucking amazing gvg and rvr I have ever played. Too bad the game kinda died with the international vs US server drama.
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>>147153083
>Seeing as he needs to get hit to get his deeds up, he's gonna want a long pain barrier.
Nobody actually does it that way, I hope at least. Just buy or farm some shrooms and let those do the work for you, they are common drops and cheap. Getting hit for your Deeds is risky as fuck and has quite a bit of set up, which means it goes against the entire point of your build.
That 24 phsical damage is also quite a lot when it comes to your Bunshin Kunai. Not gonna make or break anything obviously, but it's not completely insignificant.
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>>147153580
I guess /jp/ just isn't what it used to be?
They have skype and discord groups now.
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>>147153487
1 token costs 99 TP, so if you buy 100 TP for $10 you will have enough for 1 token but nothing else.
The token will last 30 days.
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>>147153487
Yes, tokens are 99 TP in game. Be aware that there's different pricing for different regions.
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>>147153703
Alright cool thats all I was wondering, wasn't sure what to expect its pretty vague.
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>>147153580
because most of /jp/ already played on the korean version of the game
most people dropped the game because lets be honest here
tree of savior is a mess, I enjoy it but I definitively wouldn't suggest it to anyone I knew.
>>147153653
>skype and discord groups now.
>onahole generals and monster girl generals have one
Who could have guessed that general culture runs so deep.
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>>147153173
>>147153283
has she taken dick yet? when I stopped following her she was still doing dildos only.
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>>147153653
>>147153812
Well that sucks, I stopped going to /jp/ a long time before there was discord and skype shit.
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>>147153703
You'll have 6TP left over, which adds up to 11 in the end.
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>>147153635
Fair enough, from the DPS angle you are correct.

If the original anon lacks someone to carry him, 8s extra (a more than 50% increase vs. the marginal gain from gung ho) on pain barrier will make his PvE instances a lot less stressful.
With just lv10 provoke he should be able to attract the attention of bosses away from the others in his party (and the instance will finish faster), as long as he isn't busy being flung around like a ragdoll.
In PvP, gung ho loses handily to pain barrier as well.

He will never never have full pelt utility in PvE though.
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>https://treeofsavior.com/news/?n=509
>they didn't believe that one anon who said all patches will be done in one single major patch
>6 months after release
>IMC even thinking of making a rebranding of iToS similar to FFXIV:ARR / TES:TU
>even planning to drum up marketing hype
I'm sorry anon-kun for doubting you...
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>>147152854
this isn't really true. me and another friend are from /jp/ and both exceptionally skilled at this gook cookie clicker. a lot of people would be surprised if i came out as somebody from /jp/.

>>147153580
it's just trolling. since there isn't a big organized /jp/ guild the good players just joined other guilds. i thought about joining takeiteasy since it's a /jp/ guild, but they don't do anything so why bother. i played with hotglue on aika too and we did dominate the server. there was a lot of people playing it though and we were organized with irc and all. there's no such thing on tos otherwise i'd join again.
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>>147154650
>>they didn't believe that one anon who said all patches will be done in one single major patch
Heh, that Anon was me. I also mentioned everyone will get free skill point reset, don't forget about that.
I'm not just some random Anon, by the way.
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>>147155008
Thank you Goddess Julie.
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>>147152854
He makes decent music at least
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nWoebv2O9ks
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>>147155262
Wait, moonie is moon-tone?
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>>147155262
>moonie is a redditboi and /v/boi
>gets upset that /jp/ doesn't follow him
>also ERPs and "lewd"posts
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>>147155307
Yes
https://twitter.com/mooniepwns
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>>147155607
>Uses the internet
>Has emotions
>Gets horny
Sounds like a human being to me anon. not seeing why all the hate.
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>>147155884
This post is probably some spider pretending to be a human.
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>>147155884
Sounds like a shitty attention whoring subhuman.
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>>147151685
Lama goes more with Sadhu than Monk honestly. Same background and whatnot
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>>147155884
>Being a white knight for the worst attention whore that we had in this thread
No, kill yourself idiot
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>>147155884
FUCK OFF MOONIE
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>>147153487
You can also buy tokens with in game currency. They are relatively cheap right now so that may be a better option than actually giving IMC money.
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What do you guys think the chances are of us getting un-nerfed Steady Aim and Skyliner will be when we get the ktos patch?
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>It's a let's complain about attention whores while giving them as much attention as possible episode

Is ToS really this dead?
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I love how people use "nerf" instead of "balance".
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https://treeofsavior.com/news/?n=509

1. The update gap between kTOS and iTOS is quite wide now. When can we finally expect the next update?

The way we develop TOS is generally an internal process, but we know players have been waiting for updates on iTOS for a long time now, so we thought we would shed some light on how we’ve been working and what we’re planning.

The repositories that manage the servers, clients, graphic data, etc. for kTOS and iTOS are currently separate. That means that, originally, all the contents and the system were made for kTOS, and then transferred to iTOS. The only exceptions were updates made to target issues specific to iTOS. These updates were applied directly to iTOS, since running them through kTOS first would have delayed our response time to fix the issues.

Lately, however, we’ve noticed a high demand for kTOS contents among iTOS players, and so we’ve decided to change our policy and work on merging the repositories for the two versions. So far, iTOS updates like new costumes and such were done through a partial application of contents, rather than a full-sized merging process. However, we feel that this repository merge is necessary to minimize patch gaps between both versions of TOS.

As for when you can expect new updates, we’re now focusing on the merge process and the plan is to finish merging and testing during the latter half of July, after which we’ll implement the merge patch. We expect to bring all the major updates we have prepared to iTOS after this process is finished.

What do they meme by this
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>>147156557
we're getting the same loading screens every update
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>>147156201
ANON PLS
ARE YOU TRYING TO MAKE ME CRY
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>>147156557
>The only exceptions were updates made to target issues specific to iTOS. These updates were applied directly to iTOS, since running them through kTOS first would have delayed our response time to fix the issues.
Ktos going to get our nerfs/balancing
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>>147156846
Look up sadhu too then. They are basically the same
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>>147156863
PLS NO ITOS KEEP YOUR SHITTY "CONTENT" TO YOURSELF
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>>147156557
>We can say that, at the moment, we’re working to develop a feature that would allow silver to be shared between characters of the same team. As of now, we don’t intend to make silver sharable between different accounts; our initial plan is to allow transferring silver through the Team Storage.

FUCKING HURRY YOU GOD DAMNED GOOKS
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buzz buzz *the rabbee slowly closes its eye as it walks towards the sweet embrace of death*

soon i'll take my crown back completely.
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>>147157481
I don't watch anime fucking loser lmao
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>>147156557
>What do they meme by this

They will revert all the changes on kTOS back to iTOS stage and start over from there, breaking both server in the process.
RIP in pieces TOS
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I'm gonna move in with the one on the left!
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>>147157550
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>>147156863
>nerfing swordies

Either way, they're not doing any nerfs in kTOS ever again, kTOS is on life support and they are literally merging everything in hopes servers can break the 1k players cap. If they do something like nerf Skyliner and kill hahaman they are literally losing 90% of their swordies playerbase, if they go and nerf Steady, same for Musketeer.

>people are literally expecting cucktos to get ktos content

KYS
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>>147157481
Anime?
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>>147157582
For real?
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Just hit cleric. 21/3 right now, in the mines after the miner town.

I keep getting mats from mobs, do i need to keep these? Or do i use em to make hats or something?

Got a new mace, might upgrade it with this anvil
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kToS content soon!
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>>147157531
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>>147157829
I seriously hope the summer kTOS patch breaks something really bad so you can't get the new content
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>>147157793
Only some mats from mobs are worth keeping or are used for the map collections, while most of the rest can be fed into gems for leveling.
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>>147157531
>dvine reclaiming his rightful name as the Queen of buzz
Pretty neat.
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I hope everyone who left the game now will never come back again.
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>>147156557
>0cd Skyliner and 45% steady aim on iTos
I'm so hard right now
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>>147157481
Anime.
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>>147157909
>>147157959
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>>147157940
I see. And how do i make hats? Recipes?

Or is it like RO where you need to go farm a fuck ton of mats?
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>>147157862
delete this
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>>147157978
i dont think we will ever get those buffs
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Trying to do a Chaplain build. How important are the leftover points in the cookie cutter builds? Should I focus my leftover points on 'support' skills instead of 'debuff' skills, like maxing Safety Zone instead of Deprotected Zone? Or does it not matter that much past the necessary stuff?
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>>147157789
For real!
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>>147158259
>naked feet

SLUT!
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>set up heal tiles
>boss aoes me to 1%
>run over heal tiles
>nothing
>die due to other attack
>heal tiles animation plays on my dead body

did the devs even boot up this game? or is it mostly "I guess this MIGHT working" development?
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>>147157531
Looks like your multiboxing autism paid off
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>>147158505
always max safety zone, always max heal, dump 1-3 points in deprotected zone.
Cure max depending on if you're int focused or not
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>>147158546
>one dungeon entrace disappeared over server crash before even getting in the dungeon

Yeah, this is definitely a fucking alpha.
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>>147152204
>>147152594
>>147152748
>>147153083
Thanks for the inputs senpais

I think I'll take >>147152204's advice instead of >>147153083
+6 seconds vs +9 damage and +12 more hits

>>147152594
Should I stop leveling up my swordie for now? I'm still at 19 and just R2'd
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>>147157531
do you use a keyboard macro for your skeletons? I always come back a half hour later to see mine dead
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>>147157959
I agree survival of the fittest bitches
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>>147158624
Alright thanks. The build in the pastebin just has enough points leftover to max Safety Zone and it seemed like the best skill for a support (SPR btw).
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>>147158741
the only reason i use skeletons is cause some ts autopot sorcerer will come sit on me if they're not out giving deterrence. even with them out i had to break the leg of +20 ts noobs who thought they could run roughshod over me. my shoggoth can kill everything around me in a minute while i take 1 damage without armor equipped.
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>>147156920
>Ascetic
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
If Lama falls through and there are no better options, I'll just go cleric c2/
Or Diev c1. I likes me some of that CD reduction.
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>>147158963
Chaplain is garbage, don't fall for this meme.
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>>147159069
so what do you do besides using blue spion/ blue nuo orbs?
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Why the fuck everything in this game is 30000 hoops to do anything that is normal in other games? All I want to do is transfer gear from one character to another and I must fucking do it one by one unless I dump 200k on it. Which then I can do it TWO by two. Transferring money is impossible, I gotta shell out money for a freaking token, etc etc.

It REALLY feels like a classic old MMORPG but for all wrong reasons.
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>>147159370
Get the Bug Hater and Love of Foreign Land collections. ezpz and rewards are +2 team storage. Dont ever pay for team storage.
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>>147159249
What's a better support then? Paladin?
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>>147159309
sit on them and use magic missile at the 1 minute spawn of bees so everything around them dies then let them know when they afk i'm gonna push them into a corner with icewall where they don't get farm
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>>147159370
This should help, a little bit.
http://www.tosbase.com/database/collections/?name=&bonus=MaxAccountWarehouseCount&search=search
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>>147159745
Don't fall for the "Chaplain is a meme" meme
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can someone trade me if i don't have a token ?
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>>147159745
>>147159837
Don't fall for the "Don't fall for the "Chaplain is a meme" meme" meme
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>>147159930
pretty good love live
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>>147159745
>What's a better support then?
Druid
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>>147159930
yeah but the item will become untradable to anybody else afterwards. your items will always become untradable if you give them to somebody else
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>>147159930
Yes but no matter what you trade or get, it'll be untradeable in the future.
So don't trade anything valuable.
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>>147159249
>>147159837
>>147160018
Well I guess I can't go wrong in either case since I love memes.
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>>147159837
>Chaplain is not a meme is a meme
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>>147160018
Don't fall for the "Don't fall for the "Don't fall for the "Chaplain is a meme" meme" meme
" meme
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nothing wrong with chaplain if you want to go full support
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>>147159837
At least it's not monk.
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"Lucky 4" are a thing
When you find a special mob in a map 3 map will spawn on that channel between 30 minutes from first kill
Try it in grind maps like Storage and Abbey where the chance of stranger finding these special mobs before you are very low.
When you find any special mob stay in that channel, 3 more of any possible kind will spawn.
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>>147156201
Lama's clothing looks more Chinese than Indian; the undershirt is clearly a cheongsam.
Also Lama itself is not a term associated with Hinduism, which is what Sadhu is.
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I want to gear my main but my alt keeps getting drops for it.

I'm about to retire my main at this point. It's just a talt slut at this point. What suffering
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Why do Chaplains only get 1 point on Sacrament?
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>>147160907
Because you partied with a shitty Chaplain
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>>147161103
>>147160426
t. people who have no idea how priest and chaplains work
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>>147160826
Cant you let me bully koenig in peace?
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Are you people ready?
>quests
>arenas
>0CD skyliner
>1.7k Blessing
>hitboxes
>weapon overcharging
>Glove options that aren't trash
>BiS Fencer set
>Penguin
>Slut costumes
>hair dyes and eye contacts
>High3 fashion
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>>147161374
t. iCBT expert
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>>147161471
No.
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>>147161528
No Grita Costume
No Buy
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>>147161374
Not him but I do have no idea how they work. Please explain sensei.
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>>147158796
Do you even know what that phrase means?
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>>147157481
s2 soon
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>>147161528
Zombie buffs!
Zombie buffs!!
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>>147161619
hidoi yo
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>>147160269
Don't fall for the "Don't fall for the "Don't fall for the "Don't fall for the "Chaplain is a meme" meme" meme
" meme" meme
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>>147161528
itos babb cuckening
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The only viable path for Chaplain is Cleric2, Krivis, Priest3, Chaplain. This means you won't get either PD or Kabbatits.
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>>147161908
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ldN9fNhZcsQ
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>>147162713
Daino

Scrolls.
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>>147162863
Zalcai you retard.
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A fine day to spend time with that special someone!
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>>147162713
>not having daino1 scrolls

>>147162907
>>>Zalciai
Okay, for what? The really insignificant crit attack boost? Or maybe the crit resist debuff, which every QS has, in better version?
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>>147156557
>The way we develop TOS is generally an internal process, but we know players have been waiting for updates on iTOS for a long time now, so we thought we would shed some light on how we’ve been working and what we’re planning.
>
>The repositories that manage the servers, clients, graphic data, etc. for kTOS and iTOS are currently separate. That means that, originally, all the contents and the system were made for kTOS, and then transferred to iTOS. The only exceptions were updates made to target issues specific to iTOS. These updates were applied directly to iTOS, since running them through kTOS first would have delayed our response time to fix the issues.
>
>Lately, however, we’ve noticed a high demand for kTOS contents among iTOS players, and so we’ve decided to change our policy and work on merging the repositories for the two versions. So far, iTOS updates like new costumes and such were done through a partial application of contents, rather than a full-sized merging process. However, we feel that this repository merge is necessary to minimize patch gaps between both versions of TOS.
>
>As for when you can expect new updates, we’re now focusing on the merge process and the plan is to finish merging and testing during the latter half of July, after which we’ll implement the merge patch. We expect to bring all the major updates we have prepared to iTOS after this process is finished.

DON'T LIE TO ME KIM
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>>147162907
Umm, Zalciai scrolls then?
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>>147162907
Zalcai scrolls
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>45% steady aim soon
Because fletchers totally needed it.
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>>147162907
Zalciai does nothing to benefit a chaplain unless you are some retarded full dex build which even then is too retarded to make use of it.
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>>147163191
>not liking the OSOBOS meta
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>>147156557
>that means that, originally, all the contents and the system were made for kTOS, and then transferred to iTOS.

So wait, was Prince Mark right then?
>>
Let me get this straight, are we finally getting in this month's later half? However, I have to wonder if ktos will get our nerfs or the iToS changes will be reverted (hopefully the former)
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>>147163285
play the game
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>>147163493
>muh 48 mag amp
Suck a dick.
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>>147163610
play the game
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So many memers who don't even play Chaplain trying to bait new players into not taking Krivis. These same people would argue that you don't need to finish quest so you don't have to buy tp scrolls but would insist you buy skill scrolls. Last Rites is weak and you need at least 10 points in Sacrament for it to add reasonable damage. Give me a good reason why people should take Chap when you can have 100% Stone Skin up time with a Chrono?
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>>147163414
No it means that they are testing this shit in the later half of July, so that means August at earliest
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>>147163001
Not him, but my Zalcai gives around 215 crit attack without spending a single point in SPR.
Is that bad? Genuinely curious.
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>>147163380
No. They just have two repositories (or branches) and they can merge commits from one branch into another. I can take a certain amount of time to resolve conflicts manually , depending how different the two code bases are (or how shittily things are coded).
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>>147163831
Still something nice to hear, I hope whatever gets added in this meantime from now on is also added in this big update. Maybe then I'll get back to play it.
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do dainos scrolls last longer than usual or no?
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>decided to make a wugu
>que lv90 dungeon
>3 other wugu in my party

Make a wugu they said, wugu are rare they said
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>>147164092
They last shorter than Krivis ones because of the attribute
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>>147164092
You use them every 2 minutes because you didn't take Krivis so you have no increase duration attribute. The guy saying you only need Daino 1 is a retard who can't count the number of Priest buffs. Also good luck spamming Zalcai scrolls
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>>147164195
Archer2sapper2wugi2cann meme is too strong
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>>147164195
>make a wugu they said
>falling for misinfo agents
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>>147164286
Actually i'm A2/R1/Wugu/fal/can because i hate sapper
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>>147163896
It's not bad but not good either. Crit can only apply on the first hit. Crit damage in general is meh, as most crit builds focus on big number skills.

How the fuck do you get 215 without a single point in SPR? Level 5 Zalciai would require 180SPR to reach that.

Oh and you should be SPR, next update will make Blessing scale with SPR, so no amount of crit or anything will surpass getting 200 extra damage on every line.
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>>147164195
You think someone would do that? Just go on the internet and tell lies?
Ppl always say that everyone picks Fletch3 bcz >muh dmg
So far the only thing I see in parties are Wugus, and time to time a Fletcher
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>>147164358
>Has memerage and memes hot
>complaining about other wugushis on the team
Come on now, son
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>>147164473
B-but muh poison...
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>>147163896
That's 215 damage added at the end of the crit calculation. Seems decent if you crit often enough.
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>>147164227
>2 minutes
Fuck off retard.

>you only need Daino 1
Yeah, you do. Two extra slots for Blessing and Sacrament are enough, stop being bad.
Just don't be a beta bitch and tell your team not to cast their shit buffs like Reflect Shield, if they're overwriting your Monstrance.

>spamming Zalciai scrolls
oh no, 700 silver every 40 seconds (one minute if you took Pardoner instead of Shitvis), during boss fights only, nuuuu my shekels ;_;
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>>147164653
I've never played wugu, but in theory, you could apply your poisons right after the other guy's has ended, thus always having a fucker in your screen on DoTs. Good luck coordinating that with randoms though
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>>147164418
I didn't fall for the chap meme.
Besides, maxing the attribute is really cheap.
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>>147164426
Fletcher3 is what everyone should pick but people dislike one job only class so they roll Wugu like retards
Meanwhile the already established Fletchers gets no competition because every Archer right now are Wugu cucking each other poison trying to compete agaist Elememe and failing hard at that
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>>147164810
Aspersion
Blessing
Last Rites
Monstrance
Revive
Sacrament
Stone Skin

And you think Daino 1 is enough? Chrono adds Haste and Quicken. If you're a Wizard you have QC and Archer has SS. You obviously don't play a Priest let alone Chaplain without Krivis.
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>>147165514
How would the build be then?
https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#41222c13
I just creted a char and want to go Chap, but I was planning on taking Plague at R7, but you say Krivis is better. How so?
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What the actual fuck anons? I thought the 175 dungeon gave good exp? I swear I could remember getting 1 and a half level from it on my first run, did I remember it wrong?

Remind me again, what do we do from 175-186?
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>/tosg/ discussing Chaplain builds again
Better ask in game, this thread is full of misinfo agents and theorycrafters
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>>147165892
cards
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>>147165892
reroll
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Lets be honest. If you're going PD at r7, pardoner, bokor, and oracle are all good picks for daino scrollers.

If you're casual, go krivis to make life easier. Chap is a meme
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>>147165769
Korean cookie cutter was chap Krivis pd
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>>147165892
>What the actual fuck anons? I thought the 175 dungeon gave good exp? I swear I could remember getting 1 and a half level from it on my first run, did I remember it wrong?
naah, its shitty. maybe 20% or 30% per run at 175, cant remember now.
ppl said for long time that its shit.


>175-186?
quests,cards,missions,100%maps
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>>147165892
Grind :^)
Complete maps and do monster achieve for cards.
>>
Looking for a fun alche build that doesn't involve going pyro or thaumaturge.

How does this look: http://www.tosbase.com/tools/skill-simulator/build/3oo44xflba/
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>>147166287
it looks bad anon
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>>147166287
>I want to have fun win a Merchant class without taking the few viable DPS options before it
????
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>>147165514
>Aspersion
Not needed in low-tier dungeons
>Monstrance
Waste of slot most of the time
>Revive
Not needed in low-tier dungeons
Rest adds up to 2 slots excess. QC is not a party buff. SS should not be a party buff.

But keep being the savior of random parties, waste that class slot for them, if you so desire.
The fact stays, you don't need Daino higher than 1 for majority of content.

>>147165769
He's fucking retarded.
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>>147166287
I hope I dont get you in my mission runs
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>>147166467
I have friends who go all DPS. I want a support build since my main is DPS and I really don't want to take the pyro route.

>>147166638
The feeling is mutual.
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>>147166546
>Reducing damage is bad
>Increasing dex is bad
>Daino 1
Don't talk to me or my wife's bull ever again
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>>147166080
Chaplain here. Chaplain is a meme. Chaplain out.

>>147165769
The only build for chaplain is cleric3>priest3>chaplain, this is the one true futureproof build.
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name my Pet !
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>>147165892
>did I remember it wrong
Yes, it gives around a level for the whole 3 runs.
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>>147165002
Right, the attribute. Still, you'll rarely see that crit attack amount to anything.
Not even Chap, Priest3 in general should be SPR. If you're Cleric2 Priest3 X PD, you benefit more from Pardoner than Krivis.
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>>147163493
>>147163648
Love how the person who didnt even spell zalciai right is telling other people to play the game

Play the game faggot. Zalciai does nothing for chaplain.
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>>147166708
What kind off support does alch offer?
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Was this Archer combo known? Quite useless, but still pretty cool nonetheless
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>>147166731
Well fucking Monstrance isn't worth paying extra silver/going Krivis for, that's for fucking sure. Unless you're DEX Chaplain, then why are you even allowed to post in /tosg/ you retard.
Reducing damage in dungeons only matters when there is no healer. It doesn't make the run faster, that's for sure.
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>>147166952
What combo? Enemies linked by FD share damage, it doesn't matter if it's Spiral Arrow or not.
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>>147167064
Yes, but not that much. Tested other skills, shared damage is barely noticable
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>>147163827
Play the game.
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>>147166008
>>147166167
>>147166235
>>147166819

Wait is the 190 the one that gives good exp? Im really confused, the things inbetween are on my blindspot, all I could remember about 175-224 was the blue spoion archers
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>>147166952
full draw is a mini join penalty for anything
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>>147167279
>Wait is the 190 the one that gives good exp?
Yes, but mostly because it's right after the 186 reset.
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>>147167279
>Wait is the 190 the one that gives good exp?
it gives shit exp too.
but because we have exp reset at 186, the 190 feels like good exp, until like middle 20X.
its worth run a while
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>>147167279
190 dungeon gives bad exp, it's like 2-3m or something
Almost gives as much as the 145 dungeon

>>147167138
The only reason you'd take Chap is for the Aspergellum. Capella is pretty shit tbhq famq
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>>147167279
Spion Archers are at lv223 area

Dungeons that give good XP at the player's level are 50, 90, 145, 190. Ok ones are 115, 130, garbage XP from the rest
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>>147165769
My chap is planning on going
https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#41222c8f.15213544.1f213f415a6191a1.152545.324155617195.1535

But for you, id suggest this.

https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#41222c1e.1a213a435561.11213f415a6795a5.152545.1523354161

Its basically cookie cutter and based on the korean blessing buff patch. Otherwise youd just leave about 5 in blessing and throw the rest of the extras in aspersion
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>>147166952
>>147167064
That's the problem with most archer players, they have no idea FD shares damage between the linked mobs and they never use it.

>>147167131
Not him but are you sure? Pretty sure the shared damage was 1 for 1.
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>>147167375
>>147167415
>>147167428

>>147167414
I see thank you anons, so its pretty much pointless to run this 175 then?
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>>147166806
>>147166806
>>147166806

fuck off already
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>>147167460
it's pretty much a waste of time to use it though, unless you're low level and a shit build.
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>>147166826
I'm (still) not retarded enough to go Priest without SPR, it's just a snowflake build.
I was just curious since a Cannoneer in my Evac party told me he was critting for so much the moment I started spamming Zalciai.
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>>147167446
>Cleric1
Are you sure you know what you're signing up for? Btw Sacrament is only 1 pointer. It scales terribly with Last Rites
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>>147167460
My crit Spiral dealt ~15% HP, shared was not a crit and one shotted it. I can't see how that's 1:1
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>>147166952
My snipe crits for 60k and with FD it does 99999 damage.
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>>147167506
the only reason to run the 175 is to boss rush it for an Aias which is an overpriced shield or Ignition which is your BiS for a support priest
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Anyone else FUCKING DESPISES achers?
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>>147167702
Yes, i know exactly what im getting myself into. Im building it to just solo farm shit so its not really gonna be there to support people. Dont get hit and my 10 heal tiles and shitty mass heal will keep you alive through the unavoidable shit.
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>>147167663
Zalciai brings crit resist into the negatives with enough SPR. You can test on any monster or in a duel.
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>>147167786
I despise you more, anon.
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>>147167024
Why are you talking about self uses? Monstrance, daino and Zalciai can be useful for your party, Krivis isn't entirely useless on its own with PD either.
If you don't like it fine, but don't ignore the other uses it might have
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>>147167786
t. DPS swordie
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>>147167868
>solo farm shit
Just so you know Aspergellum falls off pretty fast. Specially against monsters that aren't dark property. Sacrament and Last Rites also do weak damage unless the target is dark property.
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>>147167024
You don't even play a Chaplain do you? You're giving both bad advice and bad arguments.
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>>147168121
Thanks for your concern but i know what im getting myself into.
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>>147167702
if your party isn't hot garbage you get by just fine with heal5 and mass heal
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>>147168121
>Aspergellum falls off pretty fast
Like every damage against those ridiculous elite mobs from 250+, otherwise you can still 1 hit various mobs or just spend more than 5 seconds killing one

This thread gets really unbearable and stupid when they talk about classes that can't kill everything in a single hit.
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>>147168841
How can you even compare Aspersion to actual damage skills? I had level 15 Aspersion and 50% attribute and there is no point in using Aspergellum when you're in a grinding party because your DPS is negligible. You also don't have enough aoe attack ratio for it to matter. For killing low level mobs sure it's okay but you're better off just getting a QS3 to auto attack shit or some other farming class.
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Does Revive reset damage contribution on world bosses?
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What i have to do to stop loot Pawdel's semen and start getting Battle Bracelet from Galoks?
Also if any Fedianons interested in a guild feel free to pm me any time
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>>147169625

Don't change channels.
P
K

I
S

R
E
A
L
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>>147169339
>I had level 15 Aspersion
Idiot
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We're alive, baby.

Rodelero, Barb, and Thaum updates coming soon.
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>>147169738
Great argument,10/10.
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>>147169793
Just one more month!
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>kTOS class balance patch in late July
>>
is there any point in going Alchemist now that the potion market is dead?
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>>147170515
the buffed Dig + Combustion combo
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>>147170515
nope

maybe if C3 will have nice skills
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>>147170631
is Alchemist C2 the real Megumin build?
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>>147170170
>kTOS rank 8 added to iTOS in 2019
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>>147169727
>don't change channel
Literally doesn't matter, statistically you'll have the same chances to get it if you channelhop or not, since you can't know at how much the count on each channel is.

The only way in which not changing channel would help is getting a guaranteed DPK item IF, and it's a big if, you're farming that channel alone.

>DPK IS REAL
It is.
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>>147170515
Lv.15 Potions, Lv.10 Magnum Opus give red recipes
C3 attribute: Item Awakening no longer reduces potential

Gotta believe
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>>147170873
Don't forget throw potions!
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>>147169625
You just need a cute chrono waifu too Capy!
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>>147170873
>Lv.10 Magnum Opus give red recipes
Literally, unironically, my favourite tosg meme.
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>>147169583
If you didn't leave the map or wipe out, it shouldn't
>>
>DPK IS REAL

killing honeymeli for stingers
1 drops
kill three more on the same channel
another drop

explain this
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>>147171506
kys
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>>147171506
>Drop Chance: 3.33%
Because it doesn't use DKP, dumbo.
>>
DPK is real but you guys don't know how it works.
>>
What are the cookie cutter alchemist builds? The pastebin only lists pyro2 thaum2.
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>>147172367
PyroLinkThaum2
Some people do Sorc1
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>>147172367
wiz>pyro2>linker>sorc>alch2
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>>147170170
>As for when you can expect new updates, we’re now focusing on the merge process and the plan is to finish merging and testing during the latter half of July, after which we’ll implement the merge patch
>the plan is to finish merging and testing during the latter half of July, after which we’ll implement the merge patch
> after which we’ll implement the merge patch

Don't get your hopes up in july anon
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>>147172367
wiz > pyro3 > linker > alch2 (3)
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>>147172367
wiz* * * * alch2
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>>147156557
>Lately, however, we’ve noticed a high demand for kTOS contents among iTOS players
OH

FUCKING, YOU NOTICED THAT DID YOU

YOU NOTICED THAT HAVING THIS BARREN ASS GAME MADE PLAYERS DEVELOP A DESIRE FOR MORE CONTENT, YEAH

FUCKING HELL KIM NOTHING GETS PAST YOU, ACE DETECTIVE KIM HAKKYU
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>>147172367
You can pick literally anything before Alch and be relatively fine. The only thing that's essential is at least 1 circle of Linker. The more circles of Linker you have the easier it will be to find parties that will let you join for the grinding part of the game.

Pyro1 Link3
Pyro1 Link2 Thaum1
Pyro1 Link1 Thaum2
Pyro1 Link2 Sorc1
Pyro1 Link1 Thaum1 Sorc1
Pyro2 Link2

Are all valid options. You can take Cryo instead of Pyro if you desperately want, but it's only going to make things more painful for you when you are soloing and the CC it offers won't be all that great in parties anyways.
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BIG FAT KABBALIST TATS!
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>>147172652
The point is that it's coming Soon™
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>>147173409
Can you link em together and tight?
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>>147173298
Does thaum have any beneficial interaction with alchemist or is it taken as a filler/support class? I'm already pyro2, probably going with linker next then maybe pyro3 or linker2.
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>>147173670
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>>147173140
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>>147173740
go pyro 2 linker thauma for maximum fun and damage.
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>>147173740
double drops for jew classs
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>>147173740
If you have high INT and Transpose that into CON you get the higher carry limit all that CON offers you, but aside from that no, not really. Thaum makes farming herbs really easy since they all drop from low level mobs that you can still easily kill when Swelled so that's nice too I guess.
If you take Alchemist your own damage is going to be god awful no matter what, so unless you just really want to have X class you just want to grab whatever support you think will be the most beneficial in finding groups. Questing only takes you so far and you still have to get that character to 276+ for Alch3 eventually.
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>full INT thaum
>use transpose
>have twice as much HP as any swordsman
>still deals more damage than them
>at a range

Thanks, Kim.
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DEAD
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Reminder To All BOYS
you will be changed to a girl!
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>>147173670
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>>147170949
You are going to bully me tomorrow too?
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Reminder that Kabbalist and cannoneer will get new skills while plague doctor or musketeer will get skill shuffled around, it's bound to happen.

I hope you picked up the futurproof class tosg.
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>>147176154
SAME FOR FEATHERY FOOT, IT WILL BE BEST ET CLASS.
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>>147175382
Who would you use Switch Gender on, /tosg/?
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>>147176154
Dunno about Musket but PD might get bad surprises.
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>>147153173

Polish girls are the best, fuck off asian lovers
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>>147176154
And I'll still wreck you
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>>147176602
Asians > all other girls.
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>>147176229
Anta please.
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>tfw you crash afkers with lunge + concentrate + blessing

JUSTICE IS SERVED.
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>>147176524
franz liszt
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>>147176524

Switch Gender will be a shop like gem roasting.
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>>147176810
DONT BULLY.
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>>147176878
Fencers STRONG
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>>147176805
inb4 /pol/ collages
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>bringing kToS and iToS in line in versions
Have they given any indication which way this is going to go with buffs/nerfs?

This fundamentally means every swordsman without hahaman needs to reroll, every archer without ranger3 needs to reroll, etc if we're getting their state.

If they're getting our state, then they're getting fucked but that's fine.
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>>147177314
elememes will stay though, so at least they'll be fine
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Anon here,
What kind of wizard should I play if I'm new to this game?
Anon out.
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>>147177818
uninstall wizard
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This is the most futureproof swordsman build possible.

https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#1111449f.112336455f6a85.1a283a5171.153555.15253144

Why? Pain barrier 15 & restrain 10 is futureproof, PB uptime is amazing at 15 also, with ktos buffs to dash and this you're virtually immune to CC if RNG don't fucks yous too hard.

>hoplite

The choosen middle class is hoplite. You may ask why but the answer is simple: Finestra and Spear Lunge. While Stabbing is also a decent rotation filler like magic missile.

Options:

Doppel c1 (deeds, cyclone doublepay). Doppel small set of tools are as future proof as one can be, since double exp/loot will always be desirable and cyclone is a amazing slash spell on it's own, so is deeds of valor at 5, a strong amount of damage without killing yourself in the process like deeds 10 and also easy do achieve.

Peltasta c1: Oh, the taunt bot. Assuming DPS swordie really becomes something, the appel from pelt my die a little bit when you have cryo 3 running around rampant in chrono builds, they become less desirable but they are the best at this job and one rank is enough to get you invites, also, the C block and +50% defense while blocking is also futureproof.


R7: Dragoon. The ultimate spear user, enjoys the hoplite setup like no one else, so considering the skills they already have, Dragoon c2 and c3 is something that will hardly fall off, also, r8 may bring ANOTHER Spear class (Lancer?) that will surely enjoys finestra, lunge and other spear skills/masteries.

Option: Shinobi. New Shinobi has "quickcast" clones, not sure about uptime and shit but can be a great asset to whatever newclass get may get at r8
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Hiatus until ktos merge, anyone?
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>>147177818

Whichever interests you obviously, take a look at some cookie cutter builds.
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“If there is a God, He will have to beg my forgiveness.” — A phrase that was carved on the walls of a Siauliai Mission dungeon by a swordsman.
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So for you Fletcher 3s out there, when R8 comes around what will you pick for your next class change?
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>>147178024
Do more research on doppel. You've bought into at least one disproved meme.
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>>147178541
Cannon so I have some AoE damage as well
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>>147178541

One of the new r8 classes, if all of them suck then I guess I'm going with rogue1.
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>when r8 comes out musketeer will get 5 more levels of base damage x4 on snipe
FUCK
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>>147178937

I'm most sure that hey will rework musketeer to have a higher base damage snipe but with a lower scalling to the point where lv 5 will do the same damage as lv 5 now but lv 10 isn't going to be THAT amazing.
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>>147179094
The base damage on snipe is the problem with it. The fact it also scales hard off weapon upgrades etc is icing but not why it's so broken in pvp.
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>Cannoneer C2 will get a new skill with 500%+10.000 damage called satelite cannon

Oh boy
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>>147178541
Rogue is the most obvious choice if you don't take into account how broken the new R8 classes might be. Let's you go full STR and still crit just fine. Capture also lets you prep 3 Magic Arrows yourself in advance to just throw down instantly at the boss.
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>>147179240

>broken on pvp
>implying archers can pvp

Musketeer is a r7 class, if they where that good, you would see more musketeers here.

Even swords are in a better position. Unlike wizads and clerics, they can roll high con builds and unlike swordsman, they don't have a huge base hp. Remember that stone skin was nerfed too the ground already.
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>>147179515
Musketeers love to kill themselves
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>>147163001
>Or maybe the crit resist debuff, which every QS has, in better version?
>this is what people actually believe
oh my fucking god why do people who have no idea how the game works bother arguing about it

Rapid Fire lowers crit resistance to 0. There are very few enemies in the game with more than 50 crit resistance.

Zalciai reduces crit resistance by .8*SPR, easily reaching upwards of -200 crit resistance on a full SPR build. This reduction can go negative.

QS's crit reduction debuff will, 90% of the time, be less than a +30 to crit rate on the one or two enemies it hits.
Zalciai will ALWAYS be a ~+200 buff to crit rate, can hit unlimited numbers of enemies (no flying though, which is retarded). And you also get upwards of 400 critical attack no sweat. On your entire party.

I didn't even read what you were arguing about, comparing RS to Zalciai is like comparing fucking Swift Step to Sneak Hit.
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>>147179313
>24hour cooldown
Seems fair
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>>147163001

Zalciai scales retardedly with SPR so that crit attack boost becomes 300+ and the crit resist is like -200 which is the same as giving +200 crit rate to your dps classes.
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>>147165892

The exp is actually pretty good, it's just that you're nearing an exp reset so you think it's bad
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>>147179650

I'm not him or anything, but help me. How long last rapid fire's debuff?
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>>147179240
>Muskeeters
>PvP
ayyy
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>>147167506

175 gives good exp and two good recipes, just run it
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>>147178541

Whatever class has that arrow rain skill because arrow rain is my fetish
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>>147180334
>rare video footage taken during snipe's cooldown after oneshotting a futureproof with 28k hp.webm
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>>147180250

9 seconds, it's not great
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>>147180250
8 seconds.
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>>147179910
It's actually 1:1:0.8 SPR/Cr. Atk/Effective Cr. Rate, which is still quite nice. Also, maxing the enhance attribute adds another 100 Cr. Atk. Between Zalciai and Monstrace, I make significant increases to people's crit rate and crit attack.

t.Anonymous monk
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>>147180917
Go back to sleep, koenig
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>>147180917
When will you be available for petting on your highlander?
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Should i be worried?
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>>147180917

That last line of your post was entirely unnecessary.
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>>147181787
Grats on your debt.
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>>147181787
thx for the silver, kid, hahaha...

time to go raise that backstab attribute
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>>147181537
NO

I'M GOING TO BUFF YOU AND YOU ARE GOING TO LIKE IT

I DON'T CARE IF YOU'RE A WIZARD RUN UP TO THE MONSTER AND USE C TO FEEL THE GLORY

>>147181607
Once I get used to the controls. Monsters smacking you through cross guard is normal, r-right?
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>>147176524
>>147176993
I hope to get cattly in my dungeon run when i hit oracle 3
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>>147181787
Hello Greece.
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>>147176993
>yfw you can't wear your premium female stuff
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>>147182350
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AHH can't connect
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>>147182467
>yfw you can
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If I buy talts with one alt, can I put them in the team storage for another character to collect?
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>>147180638
>>147180650

That's a considerable amount of time. Thanks!
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>>147183462
Buying mats on the market makes them untradeable, so you won't be able to store them.
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>>147183462

Nope. Bought talt = untradeable as any other material.

Try some low level equips that sells in the market for almost the same as the npc
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Is there a way to make it so the chat tab doesent automatically switch to normal chat whenever you change maps/channels?
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>>147183871
There's an addon for it in the addon manager.
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So if we get everything ktos has in 2 months including their non nerfed abilities, what would you build anon?
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>>147184358
Ranger3 Scout Cannoneer.

Rerolling my Ranger1.
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>>147184358
I would quit because there'd be no point in any archer that isn't ranger 3.
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>>147177314
They'll probably unleash it at the same time they release rank 8 since that'll make everyone "need" to reroll anyway and cancel out a lot of the butthurt. It would also let them reshuffle skills from current rank 6 and 7 classes and give out a free skill point reset, which would open the door to anally violating every skill in the entire game.
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>>147183561
>>147183590
>Market players get fucked over
That's wonderful.

>>147184106
Speaking of that, whoever does the resource addon should add log counts to it.
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>>147184852
I'm sorry but I ship moonie x cattly
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>>147185047
Well fuck you I'm literally moving in with Cattly
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>>147185165
>cattly and buto are pulling off what we managed 5 years ago
Thumbs up champ.
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>/tosg/ couples still going strong
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Casual reminder to all Archers that if you don't already have Ranger3, you'd better reroll.
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>>147185708
We need to wait until we find out whether we're getting the ktos 45% steady aim or if ktos is getting our 20%.
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>>147180334
I like how the autist is in that image. I bet you couldn't concentrate while he Atom'd here and Atom'd out.
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>>147184358
Rerolling my cannon, only reason i didn't get ranger 3 was because of the nerfs.
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>>147180334
Delete this footage of me getting killed by Atom.
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>>147185047
As expected of a Futurecuck hope you enjoy servicing his master's cock.
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>>147185424
>still going strong

>cattly literally on his 3rd faghag
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>>147186337
>>147185424
>engaged to a literal who that only lurks
>they're happier than I could ever be
Posting was a mistake.
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>>147158624
Not him but also a Chap build
I was wondering if when going for R6 should I pick Cleric2>Plague or other shit like Oracle and then Kabb
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>>147186839
lalacow Is my crush
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>>147186839
>/tosg/ at meetup
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>>147186839
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>>147185958
>>147186149
>>147180334
>musketeer kill video
>3/4 of it is atom
necro god here

i'm gonna save you from yourself lolipan. even if you want him to live i won't let him

necro god out
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>>147187105
>tag: tomgirl

Huh?
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>>147187369
>ktos additions come over
>buy lolipan heart pupils
>force him to only wear them when atom is on screen
I CAN'T WAIT
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>>147180334
>Lolicuck just spends GvG stalking Atom
you guys were not kidding
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clover vs futureproof vs foe vs the erp guild from /jp/ when ?
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>>147185436
Actually I'm shipping me and Sandvich after he gave me a cannon today
I'm pretty sure that's implying he wants to give me his big gun.
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>>147187105
male:anal crossdressing glasses group males only shotacon stockings tomgirl yaoi
thanks senpai
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>Obtain Condensed Cursed Energy
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>>147184543
>>147184429
Why? Is Ranger 3 buffed in kTOS patches?
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>>147188364
Ranger3 is nerfed in iTOS.
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How do I turn my 1000 tp into 10 million silver?

I need about 10 million for attributes. If I buy 10 tokens all I'm gonna make is about 4 million which is shit.
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>>147188364
>+45% damage for 15 secs on a 25 sec cooldown
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>>147188479
Enchant scrolls, a good hat and a Sacrifice for luck
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>>147188526
Once kTOS patches roll in, would we get that?
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>>147188893
Most likely yes, but we can't known for sure.
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>>147188526
It's actually 10 second duration in ktos as well, it got nerfed. The +45% is still unchanged however.
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>>147188893
Either that or they get our nerf. Rather they have our nerfs and also nerf QC while we're at it
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>>147188479
>Wait for the bunnyslut costume to come out
>ERP for talt/recipes
Done!
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>>147187747
give me a link anon
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>>147188526
>everyone has quick cast effect
Great game
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>>147188938
So is it safe to roll a Ranger3>Fletcher3 or not?
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>>147188364
Yeah, they get their own Quickcast, weaker, 45% instead of 50%, of course. Boy, you wouldn't believe how loud Elememes whined because there was another class who dealt damage, devs got so fucking scared they nerfed it down to 20% on iTOS. I wonder if they'll add a Elementalist C4 like Chaplain for Priests, Elememes are REALLY fucking mad they need to use Warlock spells rather than an upgraded version of Frost Cloud that hits the whole screen and 50 hits with 30 AoE Ratio.
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>can't balance shit
>solution: powercreep

And so the content become easier and easier
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>>147189103
Ranger3Fletcher3 will never be a bad build.
Depending if we get +45% Steady Aim or not it could be the best for dps or just an ok one.
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>>147189209
yeah they're naming the patch 'you're mom' because of that
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>>147189103
It's unknown. If we don't get their steady aim version, then A2 R1 fletcher variants will continue to be superior.

Basically it's a gamble right now.
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>>147189009
thats why the new meta is Krivis C3, Meltis gives you perma steady aim
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>>147189110
>elememes are really mad that they just have to take warlock to press a button and watch mobs explode all over the screen
welp, not sure what they want then.
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>>147189209
QC should be 20% desu
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>>147189524
Elememes aren't happy until they have 4.7k+ magic attack and hit 17k+ frost cloud tics. Oh wait, they already do and they are very happy about it.

Tree of elememes, anyone else besides world boss fletcher need not apply.
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>>147189603

25% raw matk bonus, not 50% extra final damage.
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>>147189692
That's not enough to warrant c3 wiz. If that was the change every non-pure INT wiz who took wiz3 would have to reroll.
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>>147186424
>engaged
Must be nice!
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>>147189603
>removing wiz ezmode

Dude, they literally made qc+fc combo because people were complaining the game was hard when they tried anything else, it's literally the babyclass of TOS.

See: >>147189739
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>>147189692
It should be 20% final damage 10s duration 15s cd.
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>>147189082

sadpanda image search
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>>147189794
>I can't do simple math
Interrupting your flow to recast a buff every 10 seconds that adds maybe 10% damage at most is not worth 2 circles of investment. You're giving up ice wall for this.

>>147189805
Would be worth using at least.
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>>147189739
Oh, poor them.
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>>147189692
>>147189603
when this happens imc will remove fletchers from the game so you fgt archers can't ever get a world boss again
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>>147189692
50% raw m.atk bonus or 30% final bonus. Not 25% m.atk bonus.

The thing you just did is the same thing devs do all the time in balancing - they nerf or buff multiple different aspects of a skill without considering how they interact, so it ends up being OP or shit. A 25% raw m.atk bonus would be like a 15% increase in damage for anybody but a Pyrolinker, which is NOT worth going 3 circles in Wizard for.
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>>147189939
So its pretty much how Steady Aim is now?
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>>147189889
Dude calm the fuck down, no nerfs are actually coming to two button iWin of Elememe, no need to get your panties in a knot.
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>>147189907
Archers can't do anything besides Flecher world boss. Dragoons are superior in every way.
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>>147190091
>useless piece of shit

wew lad

400% + 5997
vs
600% + 4296 (6 hits)
Not to mention all elemental damage, concentrate, blessings and shit will apply to each hit individually.

But sure, I guess it doesn't even compare. Snipe's range must make up for the fact it's not a huge AoE attack.

>2 hours killing one mob
wew lad x2

Serpentine:
700% + 6482 (7 hits)
Dragon Soar:
500% + 4170 (5 hits)
Both AoE, of course.

The only thing Musketeer has that clearly outmatches Dragoon is Covering Fire which is godly (and aesthetically magnificent). Headshot is a slightly better single target version of Gae Bulg.

Let's not even get started on Doppelgoon which is what I played on kTOS. Don't you ever dare to compare my precious Dragoon to Musketeer scum again.
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>>147189692
Frankly, QC needs to be changed entirely. There's no way to make it good as is - either it's too strong or it's too weak. 100% uptime buffs always end up like that.

10 second duration, 40s CD. Spells have -90% CD when QC is up and cast times are reduced by 75%.
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>>147190126
I love this copypasta
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>>147189739
It would be enough if they fixed Reflect Shield and made it worth getting 15 points into.
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>>147190126
>you will never post something so autistic and wrong people save and repost it 2 months later
It's an abstract kind of feel.
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>>147189819
i learned something today, thank you anon.
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>>147190494
It's got a point, though.
Reminds me of the Zaibas vs Frost Cloud meme.
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>>147189739

?

They don't need to reroll, they can increase their matk via Staffs/rods and int later on. Remember that INT wll get a +70% bonus at r8.

Yes, they will do less damage, but that's the whole point. main concern actually is the fact that wizards CAN ROLL PURE CON BUILDS and deal only 25% less dmage than int builds, so pvp wizards just rolls con. That's even in a no quickcast scenario like the pvp warlocks that went cryo 2 kino 3 wl, 0 int no quicast dark theurge one shotting peole, raise into pixel of agony destroying families, gravity pole 900 base damage killing 20k hp players in 10 seconds.

REMEMBER: QUICKCAST IS MEANT TO MAKE YOUR CASTING QUICK, NOT STRONGER.

25% raw matk is still a wonderful bonus. Remember that they also get Magic missile which even at 280 dispatch trash mbos like npnp and sleep 15 (nerfed on pvp, but still godly on pve).

WIZARD 3 HAS TO BE A OPTION and it's a futureproof path, new dps classes/warlock spells may come with cast times or channeling shit. Having people decide beetween more dps via MORE spell combos (so, less easily deploy and jump) by picking pyro c2 ele c3, for example, it's a good thing. IF they want more dps in frost cloud and easier time electrocute/hail, they go wiz 3, mroe total dps on party setup? pyro c2. MORE DPS? ROLL INT MOTHERFUCK, that way we can balance squishness with dps and tankness with less dps.

My quickcast is still better than Gang Ho and concentrate, and surespell/quicast itself (speed) is almost as good as pain barrier 15.

Regarding Archers, I think that the Swift Step attribute (25%) is a little bit retarded too since you get it at c2, not c3 unlike swordsman/wizard.

About clerics, safety zone attribute at c2 is also something that makes me uncomfortable, but IMC did good by nerfing c1 heal.
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>>147190787
No he doesn't. The whole post stems from him not knowing base damage is multiplied by skill modifiers. Snipe doesn't have a 6k base damage. It has a 24k base damage.
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>Losing motivation to play because rolled into a swordie
>Strangely enough, I'm immune to altitis. But at the same time, I couldn't stand playing anymore because being outclassed by other classes every single time, so it's either just quit or continue playing this losing battle as a tauntbot
>Was doing my mission runs
>"Oh, anon! Nice to see you here. We should pt up again sometime."
>mfw

It's a conflicting thing, this is. But I'll try to push through, someone has to take one for the team and play the role nobody wants to play. And hopefully someday I can get that swordie buffs.
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>>147190998
>gravity pole
Read the kTOS patch notes.

>pixel of agony
>dark theurge one shotting peole
Read the kTOS patch notes.
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Also, on my plan to give quickcast only +25% matk bonus, I'm giving Swell Brain +25% matk too.
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>>147190998
Gravity pole is worthless garbage in ktos.
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>>147191280

Read the pvp ranking, nothing changed, except that kinos can't solo kill plague doctors and now they are the top 1 and warlock top 2, pole of agony + dt still kills people with half the time of a Raise.

I've read all ktos notes, I'm just putting out HOW problematic the situation is that even IMC (or based nexon, kek) is trying to do something
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>>147191025
I mean the part it hits multiple targets. Swordies have more aoe attack so the total damage is higher. This is similar to the zaibas vs frost cloud meme, because it ignored the fact one of the skills hit multiple targets while the other was a single target skill with a splash attribute.
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Why don't you have over 100k hp /tosg/?
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Full con wiz3/thauma3/rc
https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#2111aaah.2f3f657585.1f2a3143516a75.1
what do you think?
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>"don't buff me."

yeah
i won't buff you
you're so special, m8. i'll make sure everyone else misses out on buffs just because you brought a pardoner buff.
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>>147191810
NukeGuy every 90seconds/10
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>>147191810
Full CON is literally retarded. You don't get a rank bonus for putting points into CON so even if you Transpose it you will be a good 200 INT behind someone that just went full INT.
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>>147191319
thanks, anon. i'm sure imc will get right on making 1/4 of their player base quit you idiot. all the korean buffs are coming to itos so it's a perfect time to ruin wizard ;^)

stupid salty archer/swordcuck
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>>147191909
I still buff them and laugh at their ignorant rants
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>farming hanamings on a brand new character for the hair
>suddenly gigantic lag spike
>level up
>"huh must have leveled up class and character at the same time"
>look
>gained 5 levels in each
>i was killing enemies so fast I didn't even notice the blue mob
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>>147191909
>implying clerics aren't braindead in their buffing
>casts revive when no one is in grave danger
>casts monstrance when all partymates are wizards
>casts other useless shit at the wrong time
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I want to make a Wugushi3 based build, and the guide says that I should ask here before making it.
I was planning to follow this path:
http://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#3114666f.1a4a51.1545.2f4f5577.11213145

Or at least, from the ones available, this is the only one that seems fun.

Questions:
Why Archer C2, if poisons can't crit? While crits are nice overall, the main source of wugushi damage is the poison(I think) who can't crit, so feels kinda bad going for that.

Can shit like QS3 Wugu3 work instead? QS3 has a fuckton of mobility, and don't need DEX that much, and going high on STR also benefits Wugu a lot. But I never played with an Archer before I have no idea if this could work.
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>>147192317
>casts revive when no one is in grave danger
because you can keep it up forever, tard.
>casts monstrance when all partymates are wizards
for evasion, tard.

play the game.
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>>147191515
>>147191025
He's making the same multiplication twice and one of them is wrong if you consider how the damage formula is. for Dragontooth vs Snipe, it'd be 600% (6 hits) + 716 versus Snipe's 400% + 6000. Otherwise, Covering Fire would be ridiculously better than Snipe
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Priest3>Chap here
What should I go for Rank6 and why?
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>>147192562
Cleric c2
10 heal + divine maighto
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>>147192456
% skill multipliers are always final damage

Snipe is phys + base skill dmg x4
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>>147161860
>Using shitty wheelchain zombies and demanding a buff

No. Everyone but YOU gets one.
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>>147192794
Everything gets multiplied, mate. Crit atk, phys atk, elememental atk, even your other multipliers like enhance get multiplied

400%+6000>24000
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Which kTOS change are you looking forward the most?

Furthermore, do you honestly believe we'll get 0 cooldown skyliner and unnerfed linker?
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>>147192429
You play the game.

Revive isnt a 100% uptime skill and its not needed unless you're ina group filled with retards. You buff it when the mole is shitting spikes in the sky, bout it in missions.

Monstrance is only something you buff if there are 2 or more archers in your group. Otherwise, you dont touch that button. Stop being a faggot.
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>>147193107
Blessing buff

Nope
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>>147193107
I look forward to the blessing scaling buff.

No, they didnt end up with us for a reason. ktos is gonna lose them too.
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>>147193110
Revive is a 100% uptime skill, retard. Look at the ability.

Monstrance adds dex which adds evasion, and it's a good thing for priests to get into a habit of keeping buffs up. Why break a good habit just because you're an autistic faggot who gets triggered by dex buffs?
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>>147192429
Confirmed shitter.
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>>147192170

>people will quit because they need to use one more spell to kill mobs

dude, what
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>>147193107
i dont think we will get those buffs, they seem to be specific to itos but i really hope we get them
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>>147193297
Thanks, samefag. We all know you're a fucking idiot.

Play the game.
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>>147193254
If you have daino up there's literally nothing wrong with it, otherwise pls stop overwritting my buffs and force me to manually cancel yours.
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>>147186839
>It's called "Happy Cow"
>This is a product that exists specifically to do this

How did we know?
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>>147192429
Nigger you just proved his point. Fucking retard.
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>>147193254
>adds dex

No, it multiplies your dex. If you have no dex, you wont get any evasion from it. You are literally retarded

And as for revive, there is a 15-20 second down time for it.
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>>147193254
>>147193404
>he thinks monstrance matter for anyone but fencer, archer, and monk
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>>147193494
>getting so mad that you samefag twice
Tell me how I proved your point, retard.

This is your post:
>buffs trigger me ;_; revive is stupid and useless monstrance is stupid and useless ;_; i'm too poor to afford daino scrolls ;_; i'm bad at the game ;_;

Play the game, you fucking idiot.
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>>147192429
>Revive uptime
Not even in kTOS :^) and no use to even use it if you know how to manage your heals cd
>Monstrance for evasion
No need at all since usually DDs are accurate enough to hit things and magic can't be avoided, if you want to use it for the def reduction, that's also a waste since Deprotected Zone has a way better scaling and effect at that

You just use monstrance for the dex bonus and that's only if you have swords or archers in your party.
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>>147193254
Not that guy but

>Revive is a 100% uptime skill
Play the game.

>Monstrance adds dex
It adds 30% more dex to the player getting buffed, useless shit for wizards

Kill yourself if you're a Priest and don't know this, yet love to overwrite other people buffs and don't bring Daino if you want to use every single buffs to be "useful".
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>>147193454
I don't know if that's still a thing, but you can't manually cancel Monstance for some strange reason
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>>147193683
Duration:
90 seconds
Attribute added duration: 35 seconds
Cooldown: 130 seconds

Wow, triggered by a whole 5 seconds. You're pretty bad at the game if you can't survive 5 seconds.

>Don't use revive unless we're in grave danger!!! You don't really need it anyway
>But I'm such a shitter that I can't survive 5 seconds!
Keep on contradicting yourself, retardo.
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Why are priests so fucking obnoxious in every game MMO?

When I play support I even get stalkers that insta-whisper me when I log in so they can invite me to grind.
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>>147186839
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>>147193874
The attribute for duration increases cooldown duration. There is no 100% uptime. I don't want to have to point this out to a Priest
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>>147193874
>attribute modifier: CD +15 sec
PLAY
THE
GAME
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>>147193874
>Revive: Duration
>toggle modifier: CD+15
Now how about you start playing the game?
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>>147193874
>Don't use revive unless we're in grave danger!!!
Well, yes, that's the whole point of revive.

No use to keep it up at all times unless you're a Chaplain and that's also debatable since you don't need that much Block Penetration in PvE
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>>147193897
Wizards are the undead rogues of ToS.

Cancerous and only played by literal retards.
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>>147193679
>wanting people to adapt to his retardation by forcing them to use Daino

This is what "support classes" actually believe.
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>>147193897
I honestly swear it has to be some autistic misinfo posters just spewing this shit everywhere.
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>>147194362
I agree, >>147193897 is autistic as fuck.
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>>147194265
And swordies are "look at my damage, I'm so cool" meatbags.
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>>147193990
>cropped
fag
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>>147192425
I'm no archer myself, but I'll help you out based on what I've read. Legit archers would correct me after they're done bickering and erpíng.

You take archer2 for your other class' skills to crit, like sapper and cannon/muskeeter (because you're expected to take one of these r7 classes if you're not going fletcher3). Wugu3 doesn't really add anything much over wugu2. And a wugu2 will hate you if you get partied with them.

Going QS3>Wugu3 is not recommended because of reasons stated above. And you'll be gimping out your QS3 by not getting A2 for the crit attribute.
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>>147194265
Centurions are the tauren rogues of ToS.
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>>147194265
>played an undead rogue before the racial got nerfed
>literally feared nothing
>quit when the racial got nerfed
>play a wizard now
KEK
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>>147193338
>i spent 100million on attributes and lost 30% of mydamage and can't kill wb now. i think i'l reroll and make another character :^)
not everybody is some low level shit who rerolls mass alts. people have time invested in their characters and they won't accept losing everything cause salty sword/archer cucks want a bigger piece of the pie.

elememers doing that much damage doesn't affect you since you're not even killing wb and the dungeons aren't shared.
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Tos clerics don't even know their skills. Just pressing buttons.
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>>147194571
>And swordies are "look at my damage, I'm so cool"
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Currently following this build, but at C3 I have this doubt, is there something I should change? like Revive or Stone Skin? or those are good with 1 point?
Keep in mind that this is a futureproof build with 15 point in Bless
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>>147194786
I assure you some /tosg/ clerics actually know how to play the game.
I'm not one of them.
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>>147194934
t. koenig terrier
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>>147194873
see
>>147116340
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>>147194893
You have 3 options.

1 apseration, max sac, max stoneskin, 5 mass heal rest in revive

1 asperation, max sac, max stoneskin and mas sheal, rest in revive

Or

1 apseration, max sac, max stoneskin, max revive, rest in mass heal.

Anything else is objectively wrong
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>>147194697
>>147193990
By calling you a fag I actually meant to ask for source
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>>147194786
*iTOS Clerics
I blame Chapmeme hype making retards rolling Clerics. And of course Monk brings the worst players too.
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>>147194893
0 in Aspersion, it doesnt have any hitcount limitations and good duration so people get it from Pardoners. Take those points and max Stoneskin, then spread the rest between Revive and Massheal.
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I want to make a snowflake swordcuck

What should I slot into a Sw>pelt1>?>rodel2>fencer2 or doppel2 build?
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>people shout LFG grinding party
>"elememe only"
>"we already have pelt. chrono and cleric"
>is elememe
>join because meh why not
>the party leader is clearly a PvP swordie without pelt
>the rest have weird mismatched build here and there
>leave
Why people do this?
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>>147195157
How hard is it to search for cowgirl english in sadpanda? Can you even access sadpanda?
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>>147195086
But that isn't a futureproof build for Blessing
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>>147195176
Still need one in asperation to have asperbers from chaplain kouhai
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>>147195015
>it's lolopantsu saying rodelero (or any unorthodox build, really) isn't as bad as people make it out to be
Your proofs prove nothing.
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>>147195278
>Showing 1-25 of 252
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>>147194759
>played a sorcerer and feared nothing while being an immortal god until i quit
>played mage and feared nothing while being a god
>play wizard and am on my way to becoming a god
you don't understand boi
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>>147195086
>1 asperation
>max sac
This is bad advice. Sacrament is only good for the extra line of damage and only needs to be 1, while Aspersion gives you around 50% increased defense.

I'll take 50% extra defense over a bit of holy damage any day. Are you the same disinfo moron who can't stop crying about revive and monstrance?

You didn't even get Aspersion's name right, retard.
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>>147194697
>>147195157
neromashin
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>>147195286
He never mentioned going Chap, kys yourself softly.
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>>147195351
Git gud, faggot.
Are you blind? Literally first page. enjoy
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>>147195278
>filtering to only mangos and doujinshi
>Showing 1-25 of 126

Thanks a bunch faggotron
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>>147195279
How not? That was all said assuming blessing is 15

Sacrement points are worht more damage than aspersion points even at max attribute.

>>147195362
Damage wise, sacrament out performs aspersion any day of the week. Aspersion's damage goes up by about 21 every point, for one line.

Sacraments damage goes up by about 8 every point (after the first one) for every line.
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>>147195450
You too. Git gud.
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>>147195480
>Aspersion's damage goes up by about 21 every point, for one line.
PLAY
THE
GAME
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>>147194893
take 4 point from resurrection and put them in stoneskin. don't believe disinfo lies telling you to get rid of aspersion.
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>>147194762
>Elememers getting cubes off the Fletcher mafia ever
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>>147195312
>isn't as bad as people make it out to be
But that's the point, it's still bad no matter how you word it better.
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>>147195550
>>147195385
>>147195278
Thanks you bunch of cunts.
>>
Can you guys stop posting disinfos and post trap hentai pages instead. Thank you.
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>>147195840
Only if you kill yourself.
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>>147195673
>wiz3/thaum3/wl walks up to a fletcher and shoves his giant fist right his asshole before casually taking the cube solo
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>>147195840
Only if you kiss yourself.
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>>147194762

My friend, I play wizard too. I just don't like my class to be a retarded one memer spellcaster.

What I want: nerf quickcast, nerf meme cloud, buff hail, electrocute, meteor and prominence.
>>
Warlock's outfit is so out of place.
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>>147196023
BUFF FLESH CANNON
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>>147195985

>magic missile
>energy bolt
>pole of agony
>dark theurge, invocation, evil sacrifice!
>proceeds to alt atk
>boss died before the second roll of spells

dude, what
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>>147196023
I don't think buffing prominence will make a difference unless you change how it works entirely.
>>
hooooly fuck the leveling has slowed to a standstill.

supposed to be doing tenet church 2F, but the boss there is level 49, and I do 1 damage to it.

level 38 right now, where the fuck do i level, stuff outside the church gives like .1% exp
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>>147196449
Stop being retarded for once.
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>>147192425
QS3 Wugu3 is fine if you want to go Wugu3.

Archer C2 is only if you take something else in the last circle, like Cannoner and Muskeet. Wugu3 is not good as those, but if you want to go that way it's up to you.

As for skills, you can just go for the cookiecutters, QS3 is basically Scatter Caltrops and Running Shot, the rest doesn't really matter.

Wugu3 needle15 wugong15 the rest is up to you.
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>>147196449
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>>147196449
>Complaining about slow leveling at lvl 38

Boy you dont even know true suffering until you hit 211+
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>>147196449
>doesn't use card
I know ToS players are masochist, but not this much.
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>>147196449
DO ORSHA SIDE AS WELL HOLY SHIT! PEOPLE CAN SKIP 80% OF THE SUBQUESTS THAT GIVE LEVEL 1-3 CARDS AND STILL EASILY GET TO 50 WITHOUT GRINDING.
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>>147196554
>>147196721
orsha here we come

been using cards the entire time.
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>You can get logs from carving stamina trees
Pretty damn useless, but neato nonetheless.

>>147196449
>Use cards
>Get Orsha scroll and do map completion on that side
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>>147196721
>STILL EASILY GET TO 50 WITHOUT GRINDING.

I'm 172 and I never had the need to grind(yet). Just save cards and do ALL the quests available, once you get 5 levels behind your quests you use cards to get in range again.

Honestly, this has been quite easy to do. I think the later levels will be harder from what people told me.
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>>147196867
u can buy the orsha port from item merchants btw
saw retards here and there asking how to 'walk' there
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>>147197023
You'll hit a grind wall at 180 if you didn't grind bees or prison earlier.

Then again around 212.
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>>147196449
You can easily grind that exp at the first floor or the basement floor if you wanted to. Or you know, go to orsha.
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>>147195634
So the revive cast time doesn't matter that much?
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>>147196167
>reversi
done
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>>147196889
>>147197059
yeah already started. bought an orsha scroll early on.

should i do orsha only till i hit 40 then use the new equip and finish the other side?

or does it make more sense to finish orsha then go back and steamroll the otherside?
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>>147196023
I want electrocute to be meme levels of fuckery. They should make it instant cast for it and hail when you have rain out and buff both in damage.
Prominence should either directly follow you around or circle you continuously at a somewhat fast pace for the duration, with the attribute changed to slow it down
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>>147197074
>You'll hit a grind wall at 180
Ahah no
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>>147196449
You can skip the earlier Orsha quests and start at Koru Jungle if you want to rush.
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>>147196570
Suffering is 230-236 and then at 250~ anon
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>>147197023
I'd rather grind demon prison for an extra 5 hours than spend twice the time doing all those autistic low level quests. Quests that give level 5 cards or below aren't even worth doing at that level. On my first two characters I carded up early to grind faster.
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>>147197245
Novaha is the Tenet of Orsha.
Basically just do one side for a few maps, then the other side, then go back again.
Get a quest finished that you can teleport to and keep it available so you don't have to waste money on scrolls or long distance teleports outside of going to town like how Purify the Holy Pond is on mine.
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>Blue spion archers has 50k HP
>Blue spion wariors has 5k HP
>even mob archers are overpowered

REEEEEEEEEEE
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>>147197613
buy aspersion
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>tfw i now love grinding more than dungeon runs
what have you done to me tosg
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>>147197613
>Blue spion archers has 50k HP
>Blue spion wariors has 5k HP
>fag mob mage has 50k HP
>even mob melees are pure shit
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>>147197638
It's not fair. Swordie buffs when?
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>>147196519

>the rest doesn't matter
>the rest doesn't matter
>the rest doesn't matter
>QS
>Quarrel Shooter

wow

what the fuck

put your points into pavise you fucking moron it blocks all missiles and increases your dodge

good luck doing any maven event without it
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>>147197845
>wanting a class that isn't a dev pet class to be viable

kys
>>
>>147197261
Make electrocute channeling and continuous like PP
Make prominence hit flying and spawn deployable
Make Hail have a small slow debuff on the area + original freeze chance when it hits
Modify Rain have a chance to slip debuff like caltrops for ground, slow for flying
Make stone curse a higher debuff rank (2?) worthy of being a circle 4-6 skill
Make freezing sphere actually freeze or just fucking rename it.
Nerf Frost Cloud damage
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I've only met you for 5 mins and you're already asking me to go the other side of the world for your errands.
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>>147195480
Stop it.
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>>147198104
>Nerf Frost Cloud damage
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>>147198268
Thanks for the (You).
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>>147198152

She's totally crazy, thekind of girl that one must avoid at all costs. And she's an alchemist, dating with a bitch like this may end up with you drinking a sex change potion mixed into your food without even knowing just because you stared at storage keeper's boobs
>>
they haven't fixed the Laima CD bug, right?
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>>147198504
>imc fixing things
>>
>>147198504
working as intended
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>>147198152
>>147198432
I actually like her the most out of every npc I've met.
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>>147198432
Crazy are always the best girls, though.
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>>147198104
>stone curse
>rank 4 skill
>turn enemies into stone
>doesn't make them vulnerable to strike damage

>lethargy
>rank1 skill
>makes enemies vulnerable to strike damage

IMC pls.
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Where do I get get a pet squire
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>>147199413
Why are you even posting this

Is work that slow? Why do you need a pet squire? Just make your swordsman a squire.
>>
How should I dress to make sex look like a church?
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>>147199413
Ask squire master and see if she wants to become your pet.
>>
Incase any warlocks forgot their origins as ugly 70's window curtains
>>
I'm lvl 205, what's the fastest way to 210? Cards?

Where I should go after 210?
>>
where do I farm my jewmoney from 210+?
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Always knew the gay cat was a girl
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>>147198758

NEVET PUT YOUR DICK IN A CRAZY BITCH. NEVER
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>>147199945
>Cattle is embracing her real gender

>>147200184
But crazy seems fun and adorable.
>>
How much is sissel bracelet recipe on Klap? there's nothing on the market.
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>>147199945
Just kill me now
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>>147199605
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>>147197229
It does, don't listen to that retard. You will almost never have 6 seconds to cast it, when in combat.
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>>147199605
>taking a picture of your monitor
>>
http://tosdatabase.net/us/quest/9106/

Where to I complete this quest? I mean I took it and killed all the monsters, but it doesn't shows where I should complete it.
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>>147200564
I do literally every time
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>Telsiai
>>
Attaque Composee...

Amazing technique, fast, lethal.

Def piercing sustained massive DPS with a decent reach that can make dragoons and doppels knell and crown me as the king of swordsman dps...

AT THE COST OF SELLING YOUR SOUL TO THE JEWCHEMIST OR THE KABBALA.

I had plans to max this spell (lv 7 with venier) but now, holy shit, even spamming it lv 1 drains my wallet.
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>>147200960
>she doesn't play fletcher
Why sell your soul to just alchemists when you can get fucked in the ass by Fletcher Master too?
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>>147200960
Fencers are right up there with FeatherFoots as the most SP hungry classes.
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>>147201119

they, there's something wrong with her costume. Sorcha, the Fencer Master does nott show panties in ANY angle.
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Is Sword1 > Pelt1 > Barb3 > Fencer2 a decent Fencer build?
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>>147200403
What do you mean by this?
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>>147201691
I am sorry, anon.

https://tos.neet.tv/npcs/151063
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>>147201773
literal cookie cut, you could forgo pelt and take highlander for 50% crit attack increase though
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is this tree of savior addon manager a botnet?
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>>147200840
Katzenberg why don't you reply to my pms.
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>>147202151
I'm not him.
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>>147201906
Hes technically right then. Thats totally not showing panties at all.
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>>147201773
Fencer is kind of a shit class honestly, even among Swordsman which is inherently a shit class.

I regret going Fencer, all flash no substance. Doppels are pretty much the only option if you want to be somewhat decent at DPS.
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Cleric2 > Priest 3 > Chaplain > Oracle

What do you think, tosg? I plan on taking shepherd when it comes out so I can be jesusman. How should I distribute my points? Should I invest in INT for damage?
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>>147202151
Not katz here

Your whisper is bugged, it doesn't notify me (in the whisper tab) when you send a whisper but I can see it at the general chat.

Not katz out
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>>147202139
Worse.

A reddit botnet that automatically flags you for bans
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>>147202303
She's wearing white stocking all the way up, too.
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>>147201906
>https://tos.neet.tv/npcs/151063

She wears pants under her costume! How a can class be so pure?

>>147201773

It's a good build, personally I prefer highlander because it enables me to roll corsair instead of highlander c3 and have some fun in duels and kill bosses better and skyliner+crossguard+cartar stroke for plate is love, but mob trashing wise, barb 3 is better, the stun really helps you do your job and warcry 10 is amazing.

>>147202049

Only works for two handed swords. Serious, for fencer, pelt is a must. If you want a total dedicated dps swordsman, go something that envolves hoplite (corsair 2, shonobi, dragoon).
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Any female Rodeleros have a screenshot of their costume? Things always look better/worse ingame as opposed to the model viewer.
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>>147202151
He's too busy ERPing with me
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>>147202327
I think you should take Krivis instead of Chaplain and be a good support instead of a terribly scaling auto attack build that's only good for the midgame
Primarily SPR with enough CON to survive, don't need any INT.
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>>147202585
http://imgur.com/a/xtWuS
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What level would you reach r7?
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>>147203007
cl*ss level 15
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>>147202585
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>>147203007
224~226
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>>147202779

Pan?
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>>147202585
Rodelero for female is shit
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>>147203226
Sup.
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>>147203456
>doesn't like 16th century fashion
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I'm gonna make a sw>pelt>hop>rod2>dopp2

Should I go 50-70 con and 2:1 dex str or full dex?
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When should I be using my cards in late game again? 248-251?
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>>147203802

Hello Pan. Do you know if rodelero's strike debuff are blocked by dispellers (highkick and the other).
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Why do people keep saying Chaplain is shit? is it really that bad? I'm already Priest1 so now I'm kind of getting scared if that is true.
Wonder what build will do then...
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>>147204140
Because
>priest without krivis
Pretty much.
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>>147204140
>priest1
You've played for 3 hours tops. What exactly do you have to be scared about?

Chaplain is considered shit because the way it deals damage doesn't scale. This means it's crazy strong for a short time, then quite weak.

To a degree, this will change when we get the kToS changes in late July, as Blessing scaling shakes up that build quite a lot.
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>>147204052
Currently everything is dispellable. In kTOS, they moved he CC skills up to Lv2 debuffs, so they won't be blocked by Prophecy and Dispeller anymore. Maybe they'll do the same for the Strike debuffs.
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>>147204319
So bless 15/15 and keep playing with the chaplain build in mind then
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Gud Build or great build?

http://www.tosbase.com/tools/skill-simulator/build/6d4p1lrthj/
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IT GLOWS
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>>147204760
>rodelero with dragoon
>rodelero and not rodelero 3
I don't think you even tried.
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>>147202327
Shouldn't you have a level in Diev?
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>>147204812
>+21
holy fug
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>>147202695
>this guy again
>literally screaming at people to not go chaplain

Its not nor will it ever be a snowflake build bud. Get over it. People will roll it if they want to
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>>147204812
How much did this cost you in upgrade fees.
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>Cleric2 Krivis

H-How do I level this? Feels like every map has 9 out of 10 flying monsters. No AoEs, and I'm playing alone, so I can't even leech others.

H-Help ;_;
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>>147204851
nothing wrong with rodel and goon
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>>147204964

Not mine, I was just passing by fedimian and saw this abomination on my chat
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>>147205004
Use a sword and bap them to death or buy Blessing/Sacrament buffs from Pardoner shops in town.
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>>147205004
Are you stupid?
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If DPK meme is real, someone make a video of doppel killing a mob with double pay earn after a thaum swells it and a chrono casts reincarnate on it and then it gets swollen and killed again.
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>>147205004
CafriSacramentBlessing Elemental Damage hats cucklet kys
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>>147204760
It could work, but you have to sacrifice either Doppel or Dragoon for Rodel3. If your focus is on damage, it's just too good not to get.

And remember, no Corsair, no PvP.
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>>147205279
I'm too poor for that

>>147205227
Go away mom, you already know the answer

>>147205212
G-Going to try this ;_;
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>>147202151

I was sleep

I'm online now but got no whispers in my whisper tab
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>>147205437
you need less than 5 minutes to farm a full cafri blessing is 1.3k at the jewest pardoners, sacra is optional play the game fucktard
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>>147203108
>>147202779
>Not an Aias.
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>>147204319
>the way it deals damage doesn't scale.
Not really. It's based on your Aspersion damage which scales with SPR and INT. Chaplain damage isn't static forever, it just doesn't grow enough to last forever.
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>chaplain don't grow
>they don't know about the int 7x chapparition card chaplain
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>>147205883
It's Magical Damage that kills people in this game, specially in PvP. And my Sage Wall goes really well with my refined Glass Bracelets.

Magic Defense is the shit, anon. Meanwhile, Aias' 2 Block Rate outright doesn't work.
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>>147204319
>the way it deals damage doesn't scale
What? That's blatant bullshit. Do you even know how Aspersion works?
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>>147206095
Do you? Even if all your points are in SPR and INT the bonus is negligible by the time you hit truffles.
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>>147205548
>Buying expensive blessings when there's a /tosg/ Pardoner giving them for almost nothing
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>>147204812
lame, I was expecting a more noticeable glow like in tera
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>>147203108
>lolipan's cameltoe
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>>147206061
But who were upgraded superior gem bracelets? (No seriously, where do they come from)
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>>147206025
How many times can you swing in 4 seconds?
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Bodkin Arrows being able toremove Subzero Shields and Safety Zones when?
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>>147205548
If you pay more than 700 silver for any lv16 pardoner buff you are getting ripped off.
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>>147205351
is rodel3 actually that good?
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>>147200772
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>>147206279
>Safety Zone
Never, that's what Detonate Trap is for.
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>>147204319
Chaplain scales with SPR and INT, also the Aspersion attribute literally doubles your Aspergillum hit.

A fully decked out Chaplain will be doing minimum 4-5k ticks with the Aspergillum hit alone without Blessing. Nevermind the fact that you have two Sacraments, Blessing which is getting a huge buff soon, Cafrisun.

Chaplain's aren't top DPS but nobody ever claimed they say. To say they don't scale is blatantly untrue.
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>>147205004
Do your dungeons. If your first run of the 50 dungeon is in your mid-50's level-wise, you should come out of it well into the 60's. Same applies when you get into range to do your 90 dungeon, and Fedi merc missions after 100, though the bump wont' be as noticeable.
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>>147206527
Play the game.
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>>147206563
This is a good filter, thanks.
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>>147200772
>>147206435
Neck the guy that thought server time specific hidden quests are a good idea.
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>>147206727
>teehee I can shitpost and filter the people who call me out on it
Simply epic, friend. If the rest of the misinfo agents figure out your trick, nobody can stop them.
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>>147206275
Kalejima's Cubes? I think I have one.

Glass Bracelets still better.

>>147206365
You know the thing about how Swordsman Class' damage sucks because nothing in it has %Scaling? Rodels can inflict 300% damage debuffs on enemies, effectively giving them scaling damage.

Their base damage is nothing special, but if you manage enough crit rate, high base atk, and get Max Level skills, you can do pretty good damage.

I currently do 13k Targe Smash crits on monsters, and about 10k Shield Bashes. Everything is getting their cooldowns lowered, Shield Bash and Shooting Star are getting very high damage boosts, and Shooting Star is getting changed to Strike-type. If you think Spear Lunge + Hexen Dropper is nice, this will be over 2x stronger.

Rodeleros also Bring:

>Ability to knock people out of Safety Zone;
>Silence(with added knockdowns after buff)
>Force Stop(Duration increased in PvE after buffs)
>Knockdown that ignores Pain Barrier(With a stun and slow after target gets up)
>Stats Shuffling, enabling you to completely screw over single-stat build people(You'll be able to remove all the CON from full-CON people, probably. They said the skill not affecting CON was a bug)
>Blind(very minor)
>Magic Evasion
>Best costume in the game
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>>147204862
But Jesus ain't a carpenter. His father is.
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>>147205948
Depending on what you wanna end up doing with that priest 3 chap, aspersion is only good if you plan to use it for the defense buff (dont bother, its more efficient to get it off a pardoner) or as a damage source for asperglium.

Personally, i would weigh sacrament over aspersion if you're looking to do damage or just get both and 1 point in everything else. Honestly, if you're massing spirit, you dont need the extra points in stone skin and mass heal, ressurection and revive are good, but massheal is not something you generall max since its just a top up. Not a main source of healing.

Res 5 isnt absolutely nessisary. You can get it off as long as you're not the one running in agroing everything. Well, evne then you can slap down a safety to res them if you need to so that 6s is meaningless.
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>>147206985
What's your mdef with sage wall and glass bracelets?

Do you survive dvine's hot flesh yet?
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Clover is now in an organized battle against ReRoll, who's putting up a great fight despite their lower numbers.
Joint Penalty is just great in these fights.
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Do people accept evac parties at 230?
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>>147207372
Jesus christ, those chatboxes are cluttering up your screen. Don't want to use Classic Chat?
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>>147207167
I think I have 534, with a +8 Bracelet and a +7 Bracelet. I am still using Strength Pendant, haven't invested in a Max Peta yet.

If I manage to get everything and refine to +10, I'll have over 700 Magic Defense. With Leather Armor, not even Cloth.

If I ever get around to farming a Virtov Set, I could get over 800, with the Mastery.

>>147207372
Ask them if they want to play the GBL with us, after you're done.
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>>147206179
>chaplain is bad because it cant aoe all those truffles at the same time within 3 seconds

If thats your game then every class except wiz3ele3 is bad.

Fuck off
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>>147207372
>Whispering yourself
uhm
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>>147207585
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>>147207537
I think the most important part is whether or not you survive Meat Cannon. If not then all that Magic Defense doesn't count for anything.
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>>147207585

wiz 3 ele 3 sucks at truffles!

iirc, they do 50% damage there
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>Dungeon run
>2 dudes die to boss
>Get it down to a sliver and wait
>The moment they show up, I finish the job
>The last move it uses before death is an all-directional attack that one-shots one of them

S-Sorry...
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>tfw want to pump my atribs
>got viper recipe and catacombs STAFF recipe in a row
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>>147207749
I have Slithering, which I save for evading anything that classifies as a large-scale magic nuke.

Meat Cannon is a multi-hit skill, meaning that it's very vulnerable to defense reductions(they apply to every hit, and not just once). It's possible I might survive a Lv5 one.
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>>147207875
>Wizards and archers too close to mineloader
>Cleric runs in and tries to drop a safe wall on me
>They all die
>I just hold C and dodge/block everything

Those poor guys.
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>>147207167
nobody can survive my flesh cannon. it's too large and powerful
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Any general tips for a noob? Like things I should be working on asap? What items I should save or sell or craft or something? Should I buy Market weapons/armor and good prices for them? What attributes to get for certain classes/builds? Etc.
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>>147208217
Is level 5 Meat Cannon enough?
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>>147208217
>channels flesh cannon
>Atom out
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>>147208217
If you get knock down/back during Flesh Cannon, does it stop casting?

If so, I'd just charge head on.
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>>147208272
Save up money to buy a token first.
Craft stuff you can and sell it on market on an barely undercut price. Revalue it immediately if someone is undercutting you too. When you reach demon prison/dina bee farm, you can grind for money and levels at the same time there.

Don't invest in weapon buying unless it's dirt cheap like a Maledic that goes for 30k here. Since you'll be replacing them soon enough.
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>>147208528
It continues if you get knocked down. Once the first bit of chunks have left the ring, they'll all leave it.

You can be interrupted during the wind up, before any of the chunks fire, and if you do they'll circle around you for like 10 seconds like a harmless flesh hoop.
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>>147208589
Alright thanks. I can't even sell stuff yet since I'm only 15 and my character isn't a week old yet. Should I be buying craft recipes somewhere or only the ones I find from mobs?
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>>147208730
I better save that slithering, then.

What's the base damage of a Lv10 Flesh Cannon? And your matk?
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>>147208373
you can't satisfy full con women with something so puny.

>>147208446
by the time gvg league rolls around it'll be killing people who get dinged by it even if they got 20-30k hp.

>>147208528
you can get interrupted if you get knocked down while charging it but you can interrupt charging it early and soon a lv1 will kill 20k hp people. i kill most people while they're on the edge of my screen so charging me won't work
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>>147208528
Flesh cannon's hitbox is a cone that's tiny directly in front of the caster but becomes massive farther away from them so running at them and to the side is actually your best chance.
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>>147207756
Truffles resist lightning if i remember correctly.

Weak to earth i think.
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Why is bleeding people to death so fun?
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>>147208992
This is so wrong I can't even believe it.

The corpse spray is just an animation. It's not a hitbox.
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>>147208992
flesh cannon is literally the same hitbox and targetting as sleep
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>>147208935
Craft the recipes from drops and only when it's easy to gather the drops in the map you're questing on. Just continue penny pinching until you get that token.
Those extra dungeon runs and exp bonus will pay off.
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>>147208992
>>147209458
Flesh Cannon is a ground-targetted spell like MultiShot, right?
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>>147209458
You can see the hitbox with Oracle's forecast skill it's a very long cone. I don't know how accurate that hitbox is but that's what it looks like.
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>>147209657
>how accurate that hitbox is
It isn't. Flesh Cannon is just a ground targetted shot. It's almost exactly like Multishot, as >>147209640
says.
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>>147208992
>>147209458
the hit box isn't outside of the radius targeting circle you see. it's a bit bigger so you can hit stuff slightly outside of it, but just barely. it's most likely just lag involving movement you saw confusing you. you can test it on static stuff like boss and see there's no such thing as you're saying.
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>>147208950
>>147208950
>full con women
I want to go dark theurge balls deep inside them with NecroWarlock combo. Would that suffice? I really want the protection of My Balls from projectiles.
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>Kim: "EVERYTHING IS ALRIGHT, GAME IS PERFECT, LEAVE IF U NOT HAPPY"
>toscucks: "welp, kim said game is perfect, game is perfect i guess :^) stop being so entitled, they are doing it for love, u guys expect so much its common early access game to be shitty lmao"
>game is still shit

>imc: "we are going to port content from ktos*"
>*to ktos, again
>toscucks: "yay we are getting ktos content on cucktos!!!"
>no signs of it, imc known for extending a maintenance for three hours on a simple patch that adds loading screens

really makes u think... im a #imcmissile now
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>>147209416
What skills cause bleeding?
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>147210020
>hashtag
>undertale
>cuck cuck cuck
Low quality bait. Don't deserve any (You).
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>>147173140

Kim abandons MMOs, takes up fighting crime.
Crime actually increases as a result.
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>>147210229
Broadhead Arrows
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>>147209914
warlock is the class you'll be playing in rank 8 so you aren't a necromancer but a warlock. we're getting the ktos stuff and your damage is gonna be nerfed by 50% in pvp and your damage is running next to people so your orbs hit or using a 2 minute cd skill. i don't really see the appeal. you gotta search inside yourself and decide what you want to do. i just know a puny lv5 flesh cannon can't satisfy full con women
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>>147210263
oh the irony of calling someone else post a low quality bait
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>>147210343
>>147208950
>full CON women
T-THICC...
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What drops the normal Canon recipe?
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>>147156557
>>147173140
>>147210302
Honestly, what ever the fuck made them think having seperate patches for the same game where 1 region is ages behind the other, was a good idea? Seriously kim is just fucking doing everything completely backwards. And they only just realise it now, truly amazing how fucking retarded IMC can be.
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>>147210263
>Hnng! No~ A-anon! No, not in my safespace! Kyah~! Ah-ah...
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Nah, no (You) for that one either.
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Is it worth putting points into Gematria/Notarikon/Reduce Level?
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>>147210798
Those skills are clearly preparation for Kabbalist C2. So no, not yet.
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>>147210798
Reduce level is only for powerleveling strats due to the mobs keeping their exp amount
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>>147210576
First off, I'm not shilling the game whatsoever, I'm very aware of the many flaws this game has, but please hear me out. It's really tiring to see so much whining and negativity regarding the game, even more in the official forum. Everyone wants everything fixed instantly; everyone expects the game to be polished by the time they wake up in the morning, but people really need to see the other side of the coin.
Imagine you're an architect, and your client wanted you to design a house for him. You work on it, present your schemes, and he says he likes it. While working towards building it, he points out a few things that need revisions. You work on it, present it, he tries it out, and he finds another thing to revise. This takes a lot of time, as the client can't know for sure what he wants until he sees it.
Now imagine having to please thousands of clients at the same time, the majority of them throwing shit at you for not making the changes immediately. That's what the developers are facing each day, and we treat them like they're robots, expecting them to release amazing patches each week. I see things like "IMC doesn't care!!" or "IMC is so fucking stupid, they're not doing anything!!" all the time, but I think that's just not true. It's unfair for us to judge them by their actions while completely disregarding their intentions.
I'm all for discussion threads like this one, it helps define what the game lacks and may be used by the developers to help better their game. I'm sure a lot of us just want the game to be better, could just encourage more meaningful, mature discussions.
I know the developers seem to lack communication, but I imagine that they're trying to avoid saying anything that may be taken the wrong way, as there will always be someone who will take their statements negatively. I'm not saying that they shouldn't communicate. I just think everyone needs to tone down the toxicity, and avoid ruining some other person's day.
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>>147210343
Yeah, thanks for the advice. Here's to hoping flesh cannon won't be nerfed as well like warlock in the future.
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>>147210576
>Honestly, what ever the fuck made them think having seperate patches for the same game where 1 region is ages behind the other, was a good idea?
That the game wouldn't be dominated by whatever Nexon wanted them to add outside of Nexon's regions. Enjoy them keeping in step with whatever direction they take the game in Korea to keep it from dying.
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>>147210482
>his flesh cannon is only level 5!
>*laughter* omg! so tiny
>i know. he only has 40% attribute also. i'm over him already.
>my boyfriend has level 10 flesh cannon and 100% attribute
>i'm so jealous. mind sharing?
you don't want to be that level 5 guy. you'll lose your wife to the neighbors level 10 flesh cannon one day.

>>147211204
it might, but i think you'd need to see a lot more necromancer and people spending tons of money on attributes before that. in any case more silver will the problem.
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>>147211109
No one wants everything fixed instantly. Just use the same fucking updates as ktos.

Yea delay for translations is understandable but having the same fucking update patches for both regions is a no brainer. You have to be fucking mentally retarded if you think one region behind MONTHS behind another in content AND balance updates, is a good idea.

Players have been telling them from day 1 but they still go about their dumbass ways and only NOW realise that they fucked up?
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>>147211264
dude wtf are you smoking this game has 14k tops with a massive amount of those being fukin bots, anything to keep this from dying is a good idea. there is no possible 'long term profit' plan anymore due to how they ran every opportunity to the ground with never seen before mastery, nexon kr approach is the best they will have

also wolfsknight is coming soon so they are just waiting the legal 1year time required before ditching tree of seychelles is empty
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>>147211109
>Imagine you're an architect, and your client wanted you to design a house for him
That argument only works in programming level. On production level it is entirely different.
And most people aren't angry because there's no meaningful patch for months (though that contributes to some fuel) but rather how things constantly break every week, focus on entirely wrong thing to fight bots/RMT, and lack of communication in general.
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I just found the Silute version of Atom.
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Is there any easy way to travel between Klaipeda and Orsha for a new player? Leveling guides are saying to travel between the two and utilize the level-appropriate maps. It seems the item merchant sells scrolls for 500s which I can't really afford). Any other ways besides walking?
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>>147211607
>>147211607
>>147211607
>>147211607

New meme
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>>147211264
As opposed to having loading screens amirite?
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>>147211109
Yeah that explains why they just fix a few typos and make new loading screen and call it a day.
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>>147211475
Someone should write a paper about this board's obsession with cuckoldry.
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>>147211597
Save a quest warp,
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>>147211109
I was talking with my friend about that at morning. People complains a lot about the negative points of the game that they forgot the positive points. The game is fun!
It could be better? Yes, it could but this doesn't mean that the game is bad, everything could be better in someway. I hyped the game so much and i'm not dissapointed. :D
I do admit that sometimes i get frustated with iToS updates, but i didn't lost my hope. I didn't get max level either. :o
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>>147211264
>server merge to >4 servers in less than half a year of release
yeah nah its going to die

hope they're going to find a publisher for wolf knightu because nexon sure as hell won't pick up their shitty offer
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>>147211573
Not Sword3
Garbage build.
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>>147211541
>also wolfsknight is coming soon so they are just waiting the legal 1year time required before ditching tree of seychelles is empty

Do they not still develop Granado Espada too or something?
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>>147204812

if i see this guy in game I'll report him
It would cost like 20mil to scroll a weapon like that
RMTers must die
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>>147211475
>i'm so jealous. mind sharing?

>Implying their friendship didn't just end
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>more than two servers in each region
>for a game that has channel hopping
Why don't they just increase channel count? Hell, even two servers is too many if you don't give a shit about in-game economy.
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>>147206985
I do like the costume, I'll probably make one once I finish r7ing my other char
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