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Poschengband 5.0.0 released (breaks save compatibility!)
http://angband.oook.cz/forum/showpost.php?p=111423&postcount=233

Vanilla Angband Comp(until July 6)
Elf Warrior with a permacursed Deathwreaker:
http://angband.oook.cz/competition.php

Junethack is ongoing for the rest of June: https://junethack.net/

DCSS Trunk Updates:
http://crawl.develz.org/wordpress/trunk-updates-12-june-2016

>FAQ and What to Play
FAQ: http://pastebin.com/Q7K91Q34 (embed)
What to Play?: http://pastebin.com/yfUKx35f (embed)

>Webterminal
Rogue Nexus – Cataclysm online with shared map and tons of other roguelikes in a simple online package! (USA Only)
http://roguenex.us

>Individual Game Pastas
http://pastebin.com/pkf1qnuZ (embed)

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First for Coolthulhu
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Second for Vanilla Bagel.
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>>147071058
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>>147070902
>all those commands on the left side
holy moly
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Going from DCSS to PCB is a mindfuck. Guess i need to study before i play this competently.
>died at outpost
could i suck any harder? fuck
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It was inevitable.
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>>147071251
just go to the level 1 dungeon to the right of town

or get the quest from the town hall. warrior-types can probably take it at level 1 with a few healing potions but weaker characters can wait
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>>147071251
READ THE PASTEBIN
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>>147071397
Don't do it, it's a rootkit.
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>>147071167
Yeah, I'm not liking how the commands are setup. The init file is really dumb too. There are some mouse controls and I'm thoroughly disgusted by them. So far it just seems like you examine stuff with the mouse, and move/pickup stuff if you want. Obviously, you can move and pickup stuff with keyboard commands but I don't see a way to examine stuff with a keyboard command. Super lame. We bought a fake crown from a scrub to sell at this fair for dosh. Lets see how that goes.
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>>147071464
Thanks, got something to do at work today now.
If only the work PCs werent locked from downloading. cant even play DCSS online. Facism
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>>147072007
all of the virus scanners say it's ok
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>>147072102
I hate this already. Seems linear and gay.
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>>147072149
You can't ssh?
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>>147072343
That's because it's crafty.
It secretly downloads DP on your hard-drive and then they send you ransom demands or they'll start sending all your dirty, dirty DP to everyone on your mailing lists.
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In Cata does pulping/smashing zombie corpses do the same as butchering them?
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>>147072590
It's faster.
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>>147072102
We trade our fake crown for a fake sword of heroes. It says its corrosion proof, so that is something I guess. I'm going to try to find a dungeon before I post again so we can see the meat and potatoes.

>>147072445
It has a world map that I used to travel to the fair. Just like Tome's. I started with 1 coin and you can trade it for a variety of stuff. I could have gotten a teleport tablet or some other stuff but I thought the fake crown might be fun.
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>>147072102
This should help you https://www.rebbit.com/r/roguelikes/comments/4pdc77/help_needed_w_vanilla_bagel_the_roguelike/
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>drink potion of intelligence
>still 3 int
thanks chris
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>>147072801
>int 3
>windows 10
pottery
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>>147072102
Mouse controls are great though?
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>>147072801
so they're zerkers that play like zerkers but aren't really zerkers
sounds fun
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>>147072445
>Seems linear
Based on literally what?
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>>147072976
Mouse controls are awesome as long as they don't prohibit you from playing with solely the keyboard in a game which can be played with solely the keyboard.
If I can't do everything by keys in a roguelike it's pretty damned annoying.
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>>147072469
no everything fun is blocked aside from wiki and ahis but most are unreadable on the old ass version of IE7 or some shit.
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>>147073141
i guess they're like android berserkers
but with -speed and a 1/66 chance to aggravate on each step
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>>147073574
>1/66
does chris have a fetish for 6s?
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So we jump into the pit of death in the fair because I didn't want to go to the world map again. We fight a goblin, some gnome looking dudes and this imp who stole a bunch of my shit. He dodged a bunch but never hit us so we kill him and level up. Its pretty interesting that I can get move speed and attack speed. I haven't messed with the tactics yet, but they seem to be just like Adom's. Of particular note is one that lets you spend exp to guarantee that your attacks hit 100% of the time. That is pretty cool and I'm sure it'll come in handy. Combat was typical bump the dudes.

>>147072976
I'm not a fan if I can't use the keyboard 100% of the time. Its more precise and I can't accidentally click on the map and move or whatever.

>>147072796
I'll check that out in a bit. Hopefully it'll give me some idea of where to go. r/roguelikes is usually ok, but there are always baddies and so on.
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>>147073620
Because making tons of things 1/6, 1/66, 1/666, 1/7, 1/77, 1/777 is hilarious.
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>>147073637
>This russian shit again...
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>>147074240
cuka blyat hohol
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>>147074346
>hoihoi
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>>147074346
kurva idi nahui

i like how the developer strictly wants it to be a roguelike by putting 'The Roguelike' on the name.

>thats not how it works...
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>>147074520
>putting 'The Roguelike' on the name.

It sound more official like that.
Strong, like alcoholic bear!
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So we leveled up our movement twice, gathered some potions and went down. Encountered a rotting boar, who has attacks that give us speed maluses? I am unsure on how to cure this. Anyway, we juke him and we're going back down. There isn't an obvious way out so I have to dive.

>>147074645
>You crack open the bear!!!
>The bear dies.
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>russians
I knew this was all their fault.
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>>147074645
>It sound more official like that.
It sounds desparate and gay. He also put that for retarded steam kids.
Trully only a retarded person would think this is a roguelike.

btw hows that russian dick taste like?
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>>147074801
It appears I chose the wrong dungeon. The boar was strong enough to end us, but now we encountered this guy. We're fast enough to move away with ease, but combat is a little odd. Once you start attacking, it seems you have a hard time moving away from the enemy. They seem to get a free attack and then you're free to try to move. In addition, attacking gives fatigue. No idea what that does, but I'll die long before we know.
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>>147074927
Clearly an orchestration by the kremlin trolls.
Nothing else could explain such systematic shitposting.
Free and open-source roguelikes are too communist and remind them of the shit times.
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>decide to look at some random posts on the cdda forums for a lark
Wow, are all Cataclysm players poets?
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>>147075108
>Consume kobold
That sounds silly.
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>>147075131
That's a perfect shitku.
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>>147075040
>tfw you have to share /rlg/ with literal autists
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>>147075131
He's a russian using google translate for all his posts.
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>>147073683
That's what she said.
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>>147075131

I heard Kevin Granade comes here and talks about his Vanilla Bagel adventures.
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Next time we'll go to those smothering caves, wherever they are. This place is a death trap. Kind of neat though, he shot a branch at us and it homed in as we ran away. Followed us around the bend and everything. No idea what the hell I'm doing in this game, but I'll give it another shot later. It is indeed roguelike and seems alright. I wish there was actual documentation so I could know more about the mechanics, but such is our genre.

>>147075234
You can eat corpses to gain powers, much like nethack and adom. I only ate 1 heart from some random thing and it didn't kill or buff me. Probably have to find something crazier to eat.
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>>147075131
damn that's deep
really makes you think....
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>People are actually playing Neapolitan Cone
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>>147075676
>really makes you drink...

ftfy since it's a Russian poster.
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>>147075787
>people
I wouldn't be so generous as to call them that.
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>>147075787
Please don't do this. It's impossible to filter.
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>>147075787
>Neapolitan Cone
Surely you mean Strawberry Poptart right?
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Guys, need a bit of help here.

I've just found a scroll of acquiring and I don't know what to go for.

I'm playing pretty much a pure caster at the moment.
If I go for staves, would it give me an Air staff if my Air magic is highest?

Should I stick with the Always Acquire Armor crap?

Should I get a wand and hope for healing?

Fuck what should I go for? I kind of want the Air staff but I dunno man, if I get literally anything other than Air then I've wasted my time with it.

I ain't moving until you guys respond so please reply with some degree of haste.
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>>147075952
>muh safe space
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>Play a roguelike
>Endless shitposting about said roguelike because it wasn't made 20 years ago for free
I love you guys.
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>>147075963
>Strawberry Poptart
also a male striper.
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>>147075963
Never fucking reply to me again unless you're contributing to the thread.
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>>147076065
WAND
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>>147076065
Wand or weapon.
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>>147076107
>Play a roguelike
you mean roguelight at best.
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>>147076065
Post your inventory and equipment
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>>147076126
>only *I* am allowed to shitpost!!!
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>>147076310
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>>147076293
I can't, I'm in the middle of acquiring something, can't do shit yet.
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>>147076420
>who is Kevin Granade?
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>>147076595
You fucking.. Well do this then
If your armor is shit, including everything, torso, feet, etc.. get armor
If not, then if your weapon is shit, get that
If neither of thoose, get wand
Jewelry and other shit is not worth it unless in a real need and in a real tight spot
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>>147076742
My armor is shit. I have regular boots, gloves and helmet. None enchanted.
I have a +0 robe with +MR.
That's quite literally all.

Armor it is then?
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>>147076607
>I was only 9 years old
>I loved Granade so much, I had all the merchandise and movies
>I pray to Granade every night before bed, thanking him for the life I've been given
>"Granade is love" I say; "Granade is life"
>My dad hears me and calls me a faggot
>I know he was just jealous of my devotion for Granade
>I called him a cunt
>He slaps me and sends me to go to sleep
>I'm crying now, and my face hurts
>I lay in bed and it's really cold
>Suddenly, a warmth is moving towards me
>It's Granade
>I am so happy
He whispers into my ear "Remove fursuits"
>He grabs me with his powerful dildo hands and puts me down onto my hands and knees
>I'm ready
>I spread my ass-cheeks for Granade
>He penetrates my butt-hole
>It hurts so much but I do it for Granade
>I can feel my butt tearing as my eyes start to water
>I push against his force
>I want to please Granade
>He roars in a mighty roar as he fills my butt with his love
>My dad walks in
>Granade looks him straight in the eyes and says "BUGFIXES"
>Shrek leaves through my window
>Shrek is love. Shrek is life.
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>>147076742
>not roleplaying as yourself and acquiring food
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>>147076868
DO IT
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>>147076904
>Shrek leaves through my window
>Shrek is love. Shrek is life.
SOILED IT
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>>147077338
Granade is Shrek though.
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>>147076258
But it is a roguelike. It is gridbased, turnbased with permadeath. Dungeons are randomly generated and it has all the hallmarks of other roguelikes.
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>>147077109
Everything went better than expected. Got those nifty gloves
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Have you ever reached a point in your life where you don't enjoy videogames anymore
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Posting the two demon comics I've mined from the forums, anybody know of any more?
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>>147077759
Yes.
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so any torrent/mega for vanillin shekel yet?
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>>147077759
Yeah, I usually stop playing them when I feel like that and go outside.
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>>147077783
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>>147077521
Wait shit, which floor were you on?
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>>147077947
>go outside.
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>>147077909
>>146756397
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>>147078060
Lair 1.
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>>147078126
O well.. Just for future notice, always wait with acq till you finish lair and orc atleast, but i guess you read id'd it
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I tried playing DCSS. I do not mind the high difficulty or the near-bullshit amount of RNG involved, but what I can't handle at all is the fact that dying means starting all over from the beginning
It makes playing this game tremendously frustrating, since it feels like the tiniest mistake or new thing that I discover and misjudge makes have to start all over again, with all the boredom that such things comes with. I know it is an important feature of these games, but such thing is also the only aspect I hate about them, even when i love the rest
so with that said, and before I start cheating like a scrub by making backups of my save, what other roguelike could I play that simply doesn't have permanent death?
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>>147077998
I like how the raicho acts as if its conversion requirement is difficult.
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>>147078276
Yeah I read ID'd it.
Why do you wait until after those two areas though?
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>>147078301
Great bait post bud.
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>>147078301
>that simply doesn't have permanent death?
Where do you think you are?
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>>147078301
>what other roguelike could I play that simply doesn't have permanent death
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>>147078301
Go play Elona and have fun grinding faggot.
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>>147078276
Why would you ever wait on reading acquire? Potential loot right now >>> loot later.
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>>147078301
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>>147078449
>>147078461
>>147078506
>>147078672
why would you respond
this general fucking sucks
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In CDDA, is it possible to have multiple blacklist files as part of a single mod? It should be, shouldn't it?
I have a lot of items I need to blacklist/override and splitting them up into sections respective to their base type would make things a lot easier.
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>>147078418
>>147078571
Because you can literally clear lair and orc with any sort of equipment, theres a lot of equipment in theese two branches and later on its a bit harder to clear stuff, so if you get some loot in there, you save the scrolls for late game aquirements, because if you aquire now, and you get some good loot in theese branches, thats a scroll wasted
Also if you ever find a throve which needs aquirement scrolls, open the trove, its gonna be worth it
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>thread is dead as shit
>not any discussion about roguelike games
>newfag comes with polemic question
>"At least we'll have discussion now"
>four meme reaction answers and only one remotely helpful

you are a bunch of fucktards
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Guys, after your recommendation I am starting up Sil now.
Now what is the best music to listen to while playing a roguelike that improves the atmosphere?
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>>147078317
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>>147078753
>is it possible to have multiple blacklist files as part of a single mod?
technically, yeah.
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>>147078962
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kl1rroJOZzw
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>>147078753
Should be possible.
Most jsons that have a "type" field are not dependent on their environment at all.
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>>147078962
BLIND GUARDIAN
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>>147078949
>newfag comes with polemic question
That's what they want you to think.
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>>147078949
As it should be.
>>147078962
I recommend the hjklyubn sonata or universal_use rondo.
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>>147078962
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XFAskJN4YKE
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Oh I feel very sick alright
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>>147079363
>chaos
Boy do I love to haste my enemies
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>>147078994
>>147079135
Cool. That makes this a lot easier to maintain.

>>147079363
Time to slam with the best, or jam withe the rest, anonymous.
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>>147078083
thanks
the controls on this game are astrocious
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>>147079126
>>147079143
>>147079259
Based. If other anons have more suggestions what they like, I'll lurk for some more
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>trove asks me for 5 cure mut pots

Nah, fuck that shit, nigga. I ain't getting my ass mutated as fuck for some weak-ass scrolls and books.
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>>147079687
cure mut drops more than remove curse in this version tho senpai
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>>147079687
stfu CJ
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>>147079749
the fuck kind of weeaboo wordfilter is this? I wrote f_a_m because he was talkin jive and I wanted to play along
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Apparently the liches save/load function in vanilla bagel won't save you from death and isn't free. From what I understand, they work like savestates so you can potentially identify a mistake you made and revert. If you die, you stay dead. Pretty cool.
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>>147079862
how new.ru
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>>147079749
And even then I get mutated as fuck in extended. I don't really feel like having shoutitis or neTeleportitis in extended, man.
>>147079802
Fuck you, nigga. You know this shit ain't worth. Fuck the hood, man.
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Okay listen up you chucklefucks.
Me and you guys are going to do this. You're gonna help me achieve my (no doubt very easy for you) lifelong goal of beating this game as a Human Air Elementalist.

I've only ever beat the game once before as a human venom mage.
Nearly beat it a second time with a Naga of Chei but I found it quite literally impossible to escape with the orb as a character that slow. I couldn't escape from Zot 5, nevermind all of the other floors.

Anyway.
Help me out bros.

Here's everything you need to know near enough about this character. I've just got done clearing Lair 1.

I want to stick as closely as possible to using Air magic. I don't mind picking up one or two other spells of different elements though to help me with things resistant to my lightning.

I have a book of the Sky which I've learned Air Strike from.

I eventually want to learn Conjure Ball Lightning, Deflect Missiles and Tornado I'd imagine.
Got another book with Orb of Destruction in there. Might be a faggot and pick that up to later on, we'll see.

Are the skills I'm learning okay? Do I need to be going for anything else yet? How should I proceed?

If you can guide me to victory as this combo, then you can achieve anything.
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>>147079862
familiar is senpai
to be honest is desu
There are a couple others.
ntr-old is cuck maybe
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>>147080229
>human air elementalist
AHHHHH FCKFGIITHJIHJRTIg3j
My HuAE win worshipped Oka and used a +10 broad axe of speed.
Fuck zap.
Air strike is dope though.
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>>147080229
dude come on
do you really expect me to read all that shit
just fucking tab
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>>147072801
You can't actually go lower than 3 but you can certainly have penalties that make it very difficult to ever go higher.
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>>147080229
>the white spot on the lower left corner
It hurts my eyes
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>>147080229
>0 fighting
>No melee
L2hitdudes familia.
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##crawl on fire.
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>>147080229
>fighting 0
>weapon skill 0
>in a robe and doesn't train stealth

its like you're wanting to die.
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>>147080618
For fuck sake, fine.
Satisfied?

>>147080514
>just fucking tab
I honestly cannot stop laughing. Anon please, don't do this to me.

>>147080493
Funny you should say that, I was actually putting some thought into going a similar route earlier on since Oka was the first god I came across.

>>147080740
But I just want to be a fucking Air Wizard, is that so much to fucking ask for?

Goddamn it /rlg/ you're fucking shit. Stop meming and let's do this.
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>nearly died to a pack of lice
This duelist -11 ac is kind of a problem.

I remember someone was playing one recently, since you only get one blow, does it matter much which weapon you use or is the biggest one the best?
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>>147080964
Every day is memes day
Now ctrl+q and reroll as MiBe
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>>147080964
I'm not memeing though. It takes a lot of doing to kill everything with magic, and humans are made to be a hybrid. At the very least, get some fucking fighting and wear some armour. Every character takes fighting. ALL OF THEM.
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>>147080964
Just post a dump next time you absolute mongoloid.

Also you are annoying and presumably are playing offline tiles so it's pretty hard to help you.

Should have taken Oka.
Your skills are NOT okay. You need to get a shitload of fighting ASAP. You should have >100 HP.
If you have a staff of air, Ball Lightning is amazing, otherwise it's crap. And of course DMsl and Tornado are outstanding.
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>>147080964
Nigga, you still need HP to survive your own lighting balls if you inted to learn that. So pump up that Fighting.
Also, learn conjurations to deal with elec-resistan enemies.
And remember to multizap whenever you can.
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>>147080964
if you want to use only magicks and never hitdudes you should probably be a filthy elf instead of hu "sort of ok at everything and makes good hybrids" man
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>>147081401
>Orc Wizard fires a magic dart at you.jpg
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>>147081115
You can't really use "big weapons" since I found out that they sometimes get icky wield. And no, you should just really be only looking for a weapon that is vampiric because it carried me through 90% of the game. Other brands (especially sharpness) are pretty weak on them.
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>>147080964
>>147081294
Fucking this

>that AC
>those resistances
>that HP holy shit

You are going to get one shot by any elemental dragon as soon as it enters your LoS, mark my fucking words
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>MFW Formicid of Qazlal with a large shield and Firestarter
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>>147081519
Nigga has Airstrike. At least he can engage in Mortal Kombat and have a sliver of a chance to triumph.
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>>147081167
>>147081401
zzzzz okay, fine, I'll invest in some fighting.
I'll go for Orb of Destruction next then, will that suffice for enemies resistant to lightning?

>>147081294
>Just post a dump next time you absolute mongoloid.

How do you do that?


>>147081519
It's not to late, I can bump up fighting and everything will be okay.

>those resistances
I haven't found anything nigga, don't blame me for not having a shit load of resist fire and cold shit yet.
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>>147081115
You get a penalty to-dam based on your weapon weight. I don't think it can bring the total bonus below 0 but you normally have huge +dam based on your dex and big weapons ruin that
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ayy lmao
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>>147081732
Press # to dump.
Then upload the text file to a paste service. I recommend bpaste.net since pastebin is shit now.
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>>147081732
The HP is your fault though. And resistances are almost never anybody's fault but I hope you understand that you are dead on arrival walking around like that if you so decide to go deeper. I suppose you at least have standard rF and rC rings to switch into, just in case?
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>>147081618
Great, making a game that is piss-easy even easier. You must feel though huh?
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>>147081982
Good thing I'm doing a sprint, but yeah it's pretty fucking hilariously easy to be honest. Things just explode and it's just a giant walking wave of death. fucking 43 SH, 35 AC and 10 EV, I don't fucking need to evade anything.
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summer starts now
what a noble sacrifice
no games left
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>this layout
>almost max damage LRD

HAHAHAHAHAHA, KURWA
>>
If I'm just trying to learn how to caster in DCSS, what should I roll?
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Just added scrolls of identify and e'x'amine command.

<blog>
I am going to mountains tomorrow for two weeks, so don't expect any updates for that time. If you get any good idea for game just open an issue/PR on github:
https://github.com/MatijaSi/Welmish-Woundikins
</blog>
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>>147082282
browse /rlg/
shitposting is now rampant
I want to die
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>>147082657
>no kigo
do you even haiku
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>>147082529

GrCj, DrCj, DECj, DEIE, TeCj, DgIE.
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>>147082657
Its 5/7/5 not 4/7/4
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>>147082529
Deep Elf Fire Elementarist. Easiest shit; didn't even used a weapon in my 15-rune run.
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>>147082657
Sucking dick daily
It tastes so fucking good
Pleasure in stomach
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haikus are shit anyway
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>>147083145
From sucking to Anon
The day was Anon
To the mom fucking.
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>>147083376
There once was a whore on the dock
From dusk until dawn she sucked cock
'til one day it's said
She gave so much head
She exploded and whitewashed the block
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New MuMo Never
Eternally miss Dicku
pharaoh son of Ra
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>>147083145
Here, have some of the shitposting variety
http://www.crowdhaiku.com/haikus/495/
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>>147083590
Does that look like a haiku you fag?
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>>147083902
No because it's a fucking limerick you little MiBe shitter.
Fuck you and your whore mother.
>>
/rlg/ writes haiku but
he's pretty shitty at it
god fuck it's summer
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>>147083994
You're a limerick.
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>>147084059
I fucked you're waifu.
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>>147083761
Ring mom for me please
I have severe depression
take me home please mom


Magic cornbread is
ostentatious and flaccid
who would want that shit


Cthulu can't love
Cthulu can't even lift
Cthulu is sad
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>>147084147
*grabs you by neck.*

You scared now, kid?
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What the fuck is happening, I thought /rlg/ was nice.
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>>147084220
Sorry, I filled my shitposting quota for today with this post.
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I once cared about the quality of posts
but then I just gave up and did like most
now I just shitpost in my room while eating toast
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>>147084235
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>>147084235
This place is just autism and suffering, man. Some of the most played games are also the most divisive, and it's not like people won't fling shit over the lesser played games, anyway.
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>>147084339
>>147084409
>*draws zantetsuken*
>*phase doors behind u*
heh...easy...
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>>147084235
>>147084409
I don't know why I quoted your post. Oh well.
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>>147084235
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>>147084574
>deviantart filename
>calling anyone else summer
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>>147084519
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>>147084763
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>>147084763
I thought I was on /vn/ for a second there.
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>>147078962
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UlDdICQSLvg
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"Yonder fair maiden
Fetch me my bodypillow
so I may fappeth"
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>>147085475
>one day I'll beat a roguelike
Every time
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>>147085303
still one of the worst things to have come out of japan.
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>>147085345
haha jim
how much time did you spend on this doozy
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>>147084574
>implying summerfags are the problem
Intolerable summerfaggotry is rampant on 4chan right now, but this is clearly /rlg/'s regular literal autists.

see: people shitting themselves over new roguelikes being played
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>>147085727
>bagel
>roguelike
Don't make me shit myself over your incompetence.
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>>147085810
How is bagel not a roguelike?
>>
it's not a roguelike
stop trying to start shit son
you blimey dickhead
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>>147085892
Because it's vanilla and not chocolate.
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>>147085892
Not him, but in my opinion bagel passes as a roguelike if you use berlin interpretation (or almost any other checklist), but it's style and philosophy are clearly not roguelikeish.
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I'm thinking of doing a prison roguelike, where you play as an inmate and gotta deal with shit like reputation, respect, gang warfare, contraband, etc.

Is that something you guys would enjoy?
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>>147085978
Explain.
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>>147085410
Does anyone have the version of this that's about removals instead?
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>>147086115
Where are the wizards? Where are the elves?
No, this isn't what I want at all.
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>>147086115
That sounds fucking great. Get on that shit right now anon.
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awoo is sad now
mistreated by shitposters
who want to lewd her
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>>147086036
Do you also consider tome4 not a roguelike?
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>>147086163
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>>147086310
Not him but tome4 is not a roguelike.
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>>147086115
Sounds like it could be interesting.
One guy will request ceaselessly for you to add rape if you post about it here though.
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>>147086310
It's a roguelike, but a fucking boring one.
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>>147086360
No not that, the same comic as the post I quoted but shit like
>I have done nothing wrong but you are still going to remove me
>feature most vulnerable when heaving with sobs
>>
please stop me please god
this needs to stop fuck
this isn't funny anymore
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>>147086436
I spent the day at work thinking about it, and honestly I don't give a shit about being politically correct. I've read several wiki pages on prison life in America and it seems like inserting things in your ass is a regular hiding tactic. This will be an inventory slot.
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>>147086436
Well, I think he stopped doing it. At least he hadn't harassed my last few updates.
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>>147086115
That's cool and all but can you play as a hoplite
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>>147086115
Good luck, don't forget to post regular updates here.

Kudos to you if you make it open source.
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>>147086276
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>>147086436
>>147086741
GRID BASED
TURN BASED
PROCEDURALLY GENERATED
NON-MODAL
PERMADEATH
TOP DOWN
RAPE
HOPLITES
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>>147086762
>
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>>147086762
MOOOOOOOOOOOOODS
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>>147086882
There will be a default turn-based mode, but also a real-time mode, for times where there is nothing to do (like being in your cell) or when you are in custody and not in control of what you do, etc. You will be able to switch between modes as you wish.
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>>147087020
Interesting, I hope you will succeed, we need more roguelikes (so folks here won't talk about DCSS constantly).

In which language and with which library are you planning to do it?
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>>147087176
English, possibly.
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>>147087176
C++ and SFML.
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>>147082529
GrEE is the easiest combo 100%
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>>147087351
Cool.

>>147087350
Why not Russian?
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Is Zin punishing that angel with the help of Xom?
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Guys. I'm fucking scared. I can't kill this piece of shit Frost Giant at the end of this Ice Cave, but I think I'm going to keep trying even if it kills me, which it probably will.

I've already engaged in combat with him twice and had to flee.
I'm 1 healing potion down after that scuffle in pic related went down and I had to run again. That was a max range engage too.

Fuck sake, I don't have the will power to just turn around and walk away. I'm at the fucking end, why can't I fucking kill him.
>>
Okay, for real now. Who is the biggest nerd here?
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>>147087737
Know when to quit dude, just get the hell out of there. Ice caves rarely have that good loot anyway
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>>147086115
This sounds like exactly my thing. Will there be a crafting system for making shivs?
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>>147087741
I'm the most pathetic one at least.
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>>147087741
I read, I program, I play roguelikes, I smoke.

If I am the biggest then I am at least modern Camus.
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>>147087737
Buff with brilliance and haste before fighting him.
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>>147087737
Just lure him behind the lake, and ditch him with a potion of flight.
Can he swim? I don't remember.
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>>147086115
>finally I can recreate the entirety of Blood In Blood Out

What are you waiting for, ese?
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>>147087856
*If I am not the biggest
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>>147087898
I think it can just walk over deep water with no penalty whatsoever
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>>147087898
Giants (and anything else described as being giant in the game) are big enough to walk around in water without slowing down.
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>>147087834
Yes probably. I've written many ideas down today, will post some of it later tonight probably.
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>>147087856
Smoking makes one a nerd?
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>>147087856
>I smoke
Unless you vape, that's negative nerd points and positive edgy normie points.
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>>147087984
>>147088006
Well damn. Can he teleport him away with the wand?
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>>147088174
>Frost Giant MR
No.
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>>147088151
>>147088124
I smoke a pipe.
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>>147088241
My fedora tipped itself so hard it fell off.
Your nerd status: defended.
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>>147087864
Got him, nice one nig.

>>147087804
> Ice caves rarely have that good loot anyway
Welp, you were right.
All of my effort for a ring of protection from Ice and a staff of poison.
Th-thanks game.
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Does 4chan count as "reading" as a hobby?
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I never knew how awful negative ac is until now.

Ignorable monsters like red worm masses destroy all your stuff too.
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>>147085892
i think because of faggots like this we must include this link in the pasta:

>FAQ and What to Play
http://www.roguebasin.com/index.php?title=What_a_roguelike_is

just to clarify the components of a roguelike.
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>>147088636
I think you could say it's a hobby, but not as reading. I mean, we only spew shit all day and say nothing really meaningful.
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>>147088636
No.
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>>147088636
Unless you have every post in this thread voiced by Microsoft Sam, I can assure you're reading this as a hobby.
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>>147088824
Vanilla bagel fits nearly all the criteria on this list. You still haven't told me how it isnt a roguelike.
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>>147089131
>nearly all

>You still haven't told me how it isnt a roguelike.
Me, no. but the link did.
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I died.
I died with literally everything you could ever ask for in your inventory.
I had more items than you can possibly imagine.

I will never not be shit at this game.
I think I'm going to quit again for another year already.

I'm not going to show you what I had in my inventory because this is depressing enough already.

Air Elementalist is just too difficult
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>>147089575
Haha, what killed you?
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>>147088636
In the same way that I used to include videogame magazines in my monthly reading for Book It! in elementary school.
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>>147089575
rekt
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>>147089673
Orc Warlord
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>>147089575
Air elementalist is a fucking terrible background.
>>
Which melee weapon style should I choose in C:DDA?
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>>147089475
>Even among the "major roguelikes", it is not uncommon for one or several of the above guidelines to be broken
t. your link
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>>147089813
ah, the dreaded speed 10 monster.
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>>147089881
FIST
I
S
T
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>>147089881
I really like Silat.
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>>147089881
Fencing applies to katanas, right? If so, that.

Katanas, especially the nodachi, are fucking bonkers.
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>browse the last couple of threads
>decentplayer is apparently a thing
Neat.
>see that there's a new OWH coming out
Very neat.

Also, I saw this and thought of you, /rlg/.
>>
So, has anyone ever seen a toenail golem?
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>>147089990
>>147090063
>>147090081
Fuck off the the overpowered memes please.
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>>147072762
Could you spoon feed me on the title? Looks fun
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>>147090318
Whole-Grain Bread
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>>147090318
Raspberry Pudding
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>mansion basement quest

>murder-cockroaches
>spams touch of weakness
>chance to split into 3 clones on hit

>king-cockroach
>spams touch of fear
>immune to all magic, cept for raw magic

elonaplus sure is fun
how are your recent adventures /rlg/?
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>>147090318
Almond Tortilla
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>>147089894
HA off all things you see that...
Chocolate cumtip is not a major roguelike. It does what others have done before. I takes a huge effort to gain the roguelike tag.
Respect dear faggot.

Lets look at other games Sergey Bobrov did.
Oh yes same UI, same tiles... this guy is not doing it for the money at all.
Even dares to say its roguelike, TWO TIMES.
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>>147090318
Pineapple baguette
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>>147090125
Oh, I thought you were a newb asking for assistance.

In that case, Lizard style.
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>>147090115
This movie was not about a kawaii adventure of a princess at all dood
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>>147090467
>how are your recent adventures /rlg/


>start game
>pick the bear
>realize it's garbage
>restart
>pick the little girl
>do the same quests 50 times trying to get enough platinum to learn all of my skills
>feel my life draining out of me
>get a boner changing the appearance of the little girl
>alt+f4
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>>147090540
Please learn English before attempting to communicate on an English-speaking image board.

Regards
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>>147090318
Banana Horsedick
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>>147072102
>>147072762
Which game is this?
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>>147090467
I spent 3 months of my life doing nothing but playing Elona+ and I'm not going to do that again. It was fun.
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>>147090652
>elona.txt
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>>147090467
>how are your recent adventures /rlg/?
Had a game the other day where I killed TRJ for the 3rd rune under 9k turns, then realized that I didn't have dig for the vault and it was kind of sad.
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>>147090734
Nethack. They changed a lot for 3.6.0
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>>147089475
>Even among the "major roguelikes", it is not uncommon for one or several of the above guidelines to be broken, such as ASCII character display (many offer a graphical-tile alternative) or plotlessness (ADOM is heavy on plot).

Bagel has
>narrated action
>front-loaded commands
>Keyboard based action, with slight breaks in regards to merchant interaction

>random world gen with regards to dungeons, static overworld like tome or *bands
>spacial consistency
>storyline is broken with a main quest and sidequests
>world interaction, most stuff is related to combat or survival within the game world
>setting, you're a newly arrived dude from the west who wants to be the baron of the kingdom, all interactions within the town stem from this and you being an adventurer

>Grid based movement
>permadeath
>freedom, you're free to roam the overworld pretty much instantly
>turnbased
>dungeon hack - this is broken with the quests but you still basically kill and loot all game
>tactical single player action
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>>147090734
Blueberry Strudel.
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>>147090697
>When there is no hope left.
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>>147090467
Elona was fun, but I'm ogre it.

>>147090734
Vanilla something. It's on steam.
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>>147090734
Chocolate Donut
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>>147090734
ADOM

>>147090820
Please stop shilling your fucking game. 4 players at peak hours
>>
>>147090734
Warcraft 1
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>>147090734
Peach Icecream
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>>147090467
Haven't been playing roguelikes because I'm trying to make mods for CDDA.
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>>147090820
Go ahead and buy it.
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>>147090910
Indeed, I have no hope left that anon isn't some third world subhuman.

>>147091014
>responding to someone who addresses you
>shilling
This is almost as good as the "posting about roguelikes in /rlg/ is shitposting" meme.
>>
>>147091014
I'm not even shilling it. You guys keep saying it isn't a roguelike when it so clearly is. When I point out how its a roguelike, you try to switch the subject or call me a mong. Most of us will agree that Dredmor/Tome/Cata/Elona are roguelikes even though they bend the rules too. Its ridiculous.
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>>147091236
Shoo shoo shilly
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>>147090820
>merchant interaction
>this post
Pottery.
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>>147091014
It's obviously not a shill at this point, it's just some shitlord getting off on riling up the neckbears.

Ignore it and talk about roguelikes.
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>>147088786
You have to challenge everything.
>>
>>147091308
Someone tried talking about roguelikes and a bunch of autists started frothing at the mouth and shitting their pants.
>>
>>147091460
AYO NIGGA
YOU AINT GON' TALK SHIT 'BOUT ROGUELIKE
FUCK YOU NIGGA
I HUSTLE HARD
I FLY AS FUCK NIGGA
>>
>>147091236
>Indeed, I have no hope left that anon isn't some third world subhuman.

Strange thing to say Anon. Wait isin't that dev from Icecream Turdpit a fucking russian.

>im swedish btw
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>>147091640
>im swedish btw
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>>147091351
Yeah, I expect that duelist is actually really powerful but between challenging every monster and being killholes: the class, it ends up being zero fun to play.

Which is too bad, because the idea of a zombie duelist amuses me.
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>shilling starts on /vg/ at the same time the shilling starts on reddit

https://www.reddit.com/r/roguelikes/comments/4qo5c8/promoting_vanilla_bagel_the_roguelike/

its pottery
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Why is /rlg/ so angry all the time? Is it fault frustration?
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>>147091798
Aren't you playing MPA? They challenge automatically on attacking in that. Otherwise you can just copy the commit that implemented said feature and recompile.
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Just need to survive another 9 days to beat my record.
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>>147091793
Its true i love green tea.
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>>147091916
Why aren't you angry all the time?
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>>147092032
And everything that comes with it?
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>>147091916
This is not a game, kid
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>>147091931
Which year?
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>>147092032
>green tea is my favorite drink in the entire world
>gives me horrible kidney stones when I drink it

jdimsa
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>>147092106
Well no i don't like the lemon that comes with it... I do take some honey with my green tea.

>What kind of answer did you expect?
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>>147091919
That sounds like it has significant balance changes, though. My duelist could one-shot orcs, but having to spend a turn challenging each one made fighting a pack in the open not viable, instead of just tabbing.

I'll just play another class instead of turning on easy mode.
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>>147092459
Who are you quoting?
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>>147092178
still year 1. I set it to 127 season length
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>>147092491
Challenging actually takes a turn?
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>>147092915
As I found out from babble bolt, yes.
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https://github.com/poschengband/poschengband/blob/50a63151b8fd0002d3012374adab345b273e4542/src/object2.c#L2288

Can someone who knows what they're doing explain to me the effect of the lucky personality on item generation.
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How do you add a secondary weapon in DCSS so you can switch between them effortlessly with the " key?
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>>147093709
Assign one weapon to the letter a and the other to the letter b as far as your inventory goes.
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>>147093709
' swaps between slots a and b.
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>>147093475
Raises the chance of an item being good by a reasonable amount, and great by a small amount, as well as increasing the effective depth of items you are finding by 7.
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>>147093475
/* Base chance of being "good" */
f1 = lev + 10;
/* Base chance of being "great" */
f2 = f1 * 2 / 3;


if (p_ptr->good_luck)
{
f1 += 5;
f2 += 2;
}


Having the lucky mutation (from the personality or otherwise) gives a flat increase to an item's chance to be good or great, equivalent to being 5 dlevels deeper than you actually are basically.
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>>147093475
It also apparently gives you what seems to be an extra roll to have any given item be an artifact. I think.

https://github.com/poschengband/poschengband/blob/50a63151b8fd0002d3012374adab345b273e4542/src/object2.c#L2458
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>>147094083
>>147094098
Really doesn't seem like a lot tbqhfam
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If I'm an Elven Fighter who would ideally like to use Long Swords, what should I be raising in terms of Strength and Dex?
I don't know what swords benefit from most.

Regardless of which stat you say I should focus on, please clarify what I should aim for as far as my secondary stat is concerned, otherwise I would no doubt foolishly only level the one yous suggest
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>>147094526
which game
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>>147094595
DCSS
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>>147094595
Elona
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>>147094250
5 levels can be a lot. Plus, taking lucky as your personality is just as much about the skill boosts as it is the mutation.
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>>147094526
please respond
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>>147094526
Dex til 20-22, strength after.
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>>147094526
>>147094751

Dex to 20 then raise strength. Get about 14 int if you want to cast some support spells.
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>>147090081
No but fencing works with broadswords which are the second best melee weapon.

Katanas only work with the weaboo ring book.
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>>147095134
>>147095135
Thanks guys!
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>>147095283
>>147095108
Also, your int is just fine if you're only going to be using charms and stuff like that.
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>>147095141
>broadswords which are the second best melee weapon.
Arguably the first.
They have better damage/stamina ratio than katanas and better crits.
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Anyone know how I can add items to the store inventory lists in PCB? I tried adding the STOCK_TOWN flag to haste/heal monster wands but it doesn't seem to have taken.
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This game is fucking shit.

>Run into a mummy
>"It looks easy"
>It kills me in two hits from 3/4 of my health

Fuck off, what a load of shit.
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>>147098793
>wow this thing really hurts
>surely I can kill it before it kills me despite the fact that it walloped me for half my health
>I sure don't need to run away and get my health back which I can do FOR FREE because it WALKS SLOWER THAN ME
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>>147098793
thats why you sets them on fire. Or anything other than taking the description as a sign of ease.
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>>147099436
its the games fault
why doenst tab automatically walk away from speed 10 monsters
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>>147098793
>See a mummy
>It kicks my ass
>TWAS MERELY A FLUKE. MY BOVINE MUSCLES AND DWARVEN AXE WILL PREVAIL
>Mummy finishes the job
>AMOO AMOO AMOO WHAT A LOAD OF SHIT. THE MINOTAUR PASTURE MUST BE LITTERED WITH THE BANDAGES OF THE MUMMY
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>>147099436
>>147099659

Fuck you m8s, I wanted to get in the sand place before it closes down.
There's no reason why a monster that "looks easy" should 2 shot me when I was running around killing things that look dangerous/extremely dangerous without taking any damage at all.
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>>147099769
Go graze on a field, you dumb MiBe.
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>>147099769
Any monster that is melee-only and slower than you in DCSS is not a threat.
A level one character could kill an iron giant if they didn't have iron shot.
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>>147099769
>here lies o-tab the MiBe; he never learned from his mistakes
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>>147089990
>>147090063
>>147090081
I went with Eskrima, I'm really liking how many things it works with!
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>>147100115
>lvl 1 PC of any kind overpowering an iron giant's regen
Don't think so, Tim.
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Is there a way to use a LMG in Cata without wasting 6 Billion bullets if you don't kill the thing you're aiming in the first few bullets. Even with ergo grip and gyro stabilizers it still happens. What if I just want to shoot like 5 or so instead of 20 or so.
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>>147100339
Stick with the cudgel. Cudgel with the cudgel
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>>147100115
A less hyperbolic example would be how literally no PC is afraid of worms because you can ctrl attack and take a step back to kill them.
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>>147099769
It's easy because even a level 1 player with no items can survive against it
they could even kill it with a spear or a big enough pile of stones

you probably could've beaten it in melee, you just had bad luck and took near-max damage twice. but correct crawl gameplay is to re-evaluate and run away/use a consumable/THINK when you get bad luck instead of just mashing the tab key as fast as you can
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>>147100592
Yes yes, but monster and player regeneration is crap anyway so I like to pretend it doesn't exist.
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>>147101641
Crap as utility or feature?
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>>147101932
As a feature.
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Big thanks to everyone who came to the /rlg/ sleepover last night, it was a lot of fun
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>>147102734
There was a /rlg/ sleepover?
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>>147103076
Yeah it was great. One of the boys was sleeping and we all reached down and played with his dick.
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>>147103302
Did you make it dance like a butterfly?
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Sting like a mummy....
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DANCE LIKE A BUTTERFLY
STING LIKE A BUTTERFLY
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>>147104207
>you hear the thinkle of a tiny bell
>batmoves behind you
>doesn't attack (has no attacks)
Pshh... nothin personnel... kid
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>>147104387
EVEN THE NOBLE BUTTERFLY CAN STOP A RUK IN MIDAIR. THERE AREN'T ENOUGH RUKS IN THE WORLD.

[SHADOWBOXINGINTENSIFIES]
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>>147104387
tiny bell was removed
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>>147104864
That message still exists.
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i suppose i'll pick up where i left off
fucked up fannarboi not too long ago, d13 has a goddamn death knight so lair it is for now
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>Playing all of my best class combos
>Failing all day
>"Fuck it, gonna just random some shit before going to bed"
>Draconian Transmuter
>"Eh, sounds like shit, incoming floor 1 splat"

Long story short, I'm just throwing on beastly appendages and then tabbing through everything with unarmed.

This is just stupid.

What should I train unarmed to?
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>>147105434
L2Spider and get your UC to 8 or so.
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where in wilderness do i find good bodies for a possesor? im level 13 and im stuck with a panther, since wargs didnt spawn any bodies.
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>trying to upgrade PCB to 5.0
>everytime I try to, the game refuses to open

I think I might be retarded.
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>>147106796
Check Hugo's dumps on angband.oook.cz's poschengband ladder.
Just sort by posessor, there are about 700 of them.
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>>147107668
Are you using an old save file?
It's noncompatible.
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>>147107668
Chris is still packing a bad msvcr100.dll. Replace it with one from I think 4.0.1 or earlier.
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>>147107865
>>147107930
Ok; I'll keep trying. Thanks.
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>>147106796
Sabre-tooth tiger is pretty good. A swordsman is probably decent if you have nothing else. The higher level orcs are okay if you have a good weapon and don't mind have no device skills.

I used to do elemental hounds, but they were removed from the wilderness in 4.0.0
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>>147108046
Well, it worked. Thanks a bunch, my afro american individuals.
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fuck you and all your cats.
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>>147091460
>a bunch of autists started frothing at the mouth and shitting their pants.
That's a good summary of the entire history of roguelike discussion.
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>Welcome to the abyss!
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>>147108476
There are moments where /rlg/ is super cozy and also not dead.

How do we capture those moments and spread them through eternity?
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>>147110438
Is this actually supposed to be Lugonu or did you just name the pic that?
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>>147111096
It's a magic card.
Like the guy posting all the "You pick up a rune and feel its power" shit, they were all mox X cards.
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>>147111096
>>147111170
Just a random magic card. If I remember right, it isn't even a good one. And not all of them were moxen.
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Has anyone beaten Infra Arcana here?
How tough is this guy? Can I just run past him?
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>>147111439
I beat it once. You gotta _______kill him
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>>147111096
Lugonu is an anime girl
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>>147111439
He's very tough. Use all your stuff to kill him.
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>>147110975
>How do we capture those moments and spread them through eternity?

Band together to support new players and foster constructive discussion.

Actively shun mean spirited, low quality, nitpicky posts when they show up.
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>>147111919
I try, lad. I try.
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thanks undead vault. I was fightin for a while before i remembered I stashed a phase dagger.
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>>147111439
no...
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When is Vehemut a good choice?
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>>147112954
When you need the boost more than you need survivability from other gods.
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About to play PCB for the first time. Should I enable any extra option or should I just jump right into the fray?
Also, I'm jumping into it unspoilered, so I'll come here every now and then for advice.
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>>147113776
Enable small levels for the first parts of the game.
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>>147112952
RIP
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>>147112952
Oh. Oh anon...
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>>147113972
Any other suggestion?
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>>147116125
I would tell you to not play PosChengband but it seems your mind is already set
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>>147116425
Why not?
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>>147116125
turn off virtues in the birth options imo
they add a little bit to the game but mostly they add a lot of message spam

also if pcb5 i recommend turning on easy_id and easy_lore for quality of life

what other rouge likes have you played in past?
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>>147116596
I don't think it's a very good game.
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>>147116636
>What a noble sacrifice!
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>>147116636
DCSS, OWH, DoomRL and Pixel Dungeon.

Work and learning japanese made me pick the one's I thought were the easiest (except DoomRL; I just love Doom and wanted to try that one), so pls be gentle with me for not playing ADoM or Brogue or Sil yet.
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>>147117079
No one will care if you don't play ADoM. Far too spooky with the ELDRITCH BEARD and all that.
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>>147116636
>they add a little bit to the game but mostly they add a lot of message spam

You are straying from the path of individualism
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>>147116832
>>147117402
Stop, you brute!
>>
I don't even know what, if anything, virtues actually do, but not having them on makes the game feel weirdly empty. Also things seem torun from me more, but that may just be coincidence.
>>
Bowmaster is literally the tabbiest class.

You use ranged weapons, which are the only way to tab in pcb.
Early on you never miss when firing in melee range, so it doesn't hurt you as much if they get close.
At level 30 you get penetration arrows so you can tab wildly and watch packs dissolve.

It's a change of pace, for sure.
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>>147118473
I'll tab you buddy
>>
I'm trying to get into PCB now. I don't know why, but the usual "kill random animals in the early game" roguelike tradition is somehow even funnier in this game.
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>>147118473
archer > bowmaster IMO
creating your own arrows instead of having to scrounge for them is great

also bows aren't the only way to tab. you can also macro spells like the psion's psi storm or abilities like cyberdemon rockets
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>>147118934
>On a quest to stop the serpent of chaos from ending the world
>Start out by killing lame horses and beggars
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>>147119497
This serpent of chaos guy doesn't sound that tough.
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>>147119696
For you...
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>>147119696
To shreds, you say.
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>>147119696
He's a big guy
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Welp, just got fire D:2 fire dragon armor and an amulet of harm on my crossbow KoHu. What do?
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>>147120179
Fire isn't a big threat so early in the game. You also need to cover up the ice weakness that comes with it.
Harm sucks.
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>>147120179
put yourself inside the armor and then put the amulet inside a lava
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>>147120347
>>147120284
Is the risk really that great? I mean, shouldn't a hunter be able to avoid most of that bad shit that comes with it?
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>>147120565
you will get orcpriested 20% harder

don't wear it until you have decent hp, ac, and ev
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>>147120565
It makes you so prone to faulting it's not even funny. You say that now, but wait until things consistently start hitting you from the distance.

>>147120743
I'd say don't wear it ever. Unless you think iron shots that deal 20% extra damage are funny somehow.
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What the hell do I even wish for now? stuff to kill for XP? I think im ok for corruption removal scrolls from the last wish.
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>>147120565
Pure mages have more to gain. Hunters tend to be in melee a lot more.

>>147120743
Note that orc priests aren't all that much scarier with 20% extra damage. 2-17 damage becomes something like 2-20~. Its the bigger dudes with ranged attacks that he needs to worry about, especially early centaurs or cyclops as well as stuff like wyverns and spiny frogs.
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Playing dcss and as an air mage and there's an entrance to both the labyrinth and volcano on this floor, which one should I go for? I have a ring of fire resistance so the volcano might be safer, but I don't know which gives better loot
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>>147120879
what's the one that spawns 2500 potions of carrot juice and then crashes the game

>>147120902
orc priests are one of the monsters with the most kills in crawl

>>147121045
lab a best
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>>147121045
Labyrinth has better loot. You might be able to get both, try using a scroll of magic mapping to not lose much time finding the entrances. If can only do one, do labyrinth.
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>>147121103
I know anon, I'm assuming our kobold friend has some skill. Atleast enough not to splat to orc priests. Harm is surprisingly good, its just that the really dangerous stuff gets absurd with 20% extra damage. Especially for a low HP race. Cyclops has 55 base with ruks, which turns into nearly 70 with harm. Stuff like ettins or crossbow packing yaktuars and orcs are suddenly stupidly dangerous. You can bypass the smaller stuff like priests because its just 2 or 3 extra damage, but an extra 15 or 20 really breaks the bank.
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>>147121545
>assuming our kobold friend has some skill
Just to let you know, you're assuming very wrong. I'm awful at DCSS and roguelikes in general. I get swept up in action far too much and get impatient.
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>>147121162
Did lab and killed the minotaur pretty fast, does the volcano continue to tick down while I'm in here, or should I keep exploring the labyrinth to find more loot?
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>>147122685
Don't use the amulet.
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>>147122860
There's only one pile of loot in Lab. Get out of there. and yes, it does tick down.
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>>147122860
>more loot
just leave, all the good shit is on the exit stair with the minotaur
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>>147122860
The only loot is at the minotaur's hideout. Go out and try to find the other entrance.
>>
Making enemies for your roguelike is pretty fun. I just made one that can swap places with the player, do a pseudo-smite for pretty hefty damage or drain some stamina. It's a pain even for me to fight.
>>
>>147124658
what game is this?
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>>147124817
One of my own. It's not available yet, I need to do a lot more work. I'm just working on content creation.
>>
>randart light sources can have "permanent light"
why not just give it +1 radius
>>
>>147124658
Smite is the worst senpai desu
>>
>>147125950
Don't worry, it's resistable and checks for magic resistance.
>>
>>147121103

Think im gonna just wish for alchemy and bomb everything with herbs since im fire immune.
>>
Do people still play Brogue?
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>>147127429
Give seed!
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>>147129328
L-lewd!
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>D3 water moccasin
>not even 2k turns yet
At least I instagibbed it easy as a spriggan enchanter. Nearly anything else that isn't a berserker would have to 360 at any sight.
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>>147082580
Last commit before leaving, enjoy yourselves.

Fixed identify, made dungeon smaller (due to fov slowdowns).
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>>147129328
>lewding awoo
>lewding cheeeen
That's it, /rlg/. I'm taking you downtown. I hope you have a good lawyer.
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>>147130824
>paying for lawyers
I'm gonna be my own lawyer and put the entirety of the trial on github so people can help me out.
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>>147131708
Best idea ever.
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>>147078962

Playing Sil is nauseating. Everyone is moving, it's like you're in a ballroom so I'd recommend a disco BGM
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>>147127429
Fucking eels always trying to start shit motherfuckers.
>>
Why do sometimes my char in IVAN repeatedly goes unconscious and goes hungrier real quickly until it dies? What happened?
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>>147130283
I can think of a lot of other combos that could take a moccasin on D3
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>>147135342
MiBe doesn't count.
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>>147135746
>Fighter could quaff might
>gladiator could throw net
>artificer could enslave him
>wizard could summon frost imps on him
>gargoyle could tab him
>DD could out-HP him
>centaur could kite him
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>>147136132
>MuMo could fist him
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>>147099769

How could you die against a fucking mummy? Or were there actually 3 mummies hitting you? Because that literally can't happen even on the shittiest of melee races.
>>
>add obnoxious, useless item that shouldn't exist in new england but does because I said so
https://github.com/CleverRaven/Cataclysm-DDA/pull/17445
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Home stretch now.
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>>147137226
>consumed by the acidic
are you spamming acid ball anon
are you a troll wizard
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>>147137294

dorf monk. i found a wand of wishing and wished for some books of acid ball just for him.
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Explain this bullshit
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>>147138627
>4 scrolls of fog in your inventory

Get it together.
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>>147138627
>this game is bullshit a mighted ettin killed me through 50 AC while I was surrounded by enemies
>this is bullshit I threw stones at a speed 16 unique that can haste himself and I expected not to die while having a backpack full of consumables and not using them
More like MisterShitter. Stop blaming the rng for your objectively bad gameplay.
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>>147138627
dude I didn't even see the 4 curings in your inventory, what the fuck were you thinking

you could have saved yourself in so many ways
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>"I shouldn't need to use consumables, it's the rng's fault"
/rlg/'s motto circa 2012
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>>147138701
>>147139029
They weren't ID'd you cunts
>>147138938
>Implying i threw ruk
I skedaddled outta there as soon as i saw him, fucker poisoned and killed me while i was going upstairs
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>>147139647
Yes you did.
Because nothing spawns in lair that throws ruks and rocks.
And you have them quivered.
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>>147139647
>not read IDing

Also you were on lair 8, not having curing identified by then is a big issue. The fuck did you use all your ID scrolls on, weapons? A single scroll of fog would probably have saved your life. Not read IDing a scroll you have 4 copies of is 100% fault.
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>>147139813
I was shooting other mobs you dumbfuck
>>147139826
I played too much nethack to trust use-ID
>You read the scroll
>It was a scroll of vulnerability/torment/mapping/random useless
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>>147140148
Read scrolls when you're safe and there's nothing that can hurt you. Even torment can just be rested off.

Identifying all your resources as soon as possible is a good thing. I read ID anything I have more than one copy of. It's just good form. Keep this in mind for your next run.
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>>147140243
Oh I should also note: read IDing when you have scrolls of identify to spare is questionable, so feel free to burn excess ID scrolls on other scrolls or whatever
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One last thing to take care of before I finish this up
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>>147140305
imo you don't really have ID scrolls "to spare" until you've identified most if not all potions.
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And there you go! After a long time playin my first win.
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>>147140617
>not wishing for a loli
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>>147140735
Congrats
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>>147140735
Congratulations.
Well done, anon.
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>>147140735
omedetou!

what prerelease was this?
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>>147140735
>Saving himself 15 times
What does that mean?
>>
>>147140907

'S'aving the game.

>>147140904

r57
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>>147136546
Mummies do up to 20 damage now, anon.
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I wanted to sate my inner and long dead teenager by playing seed 69 but this has a nice golf-bag start.
Wish I'd chosen the staves differently though and enchanted more prudently.
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>>147136665
>obnoxious, useless item that shouldn't exist in new england
It's just another sword.
The problem is that it's a hideously ugly hack. If you want to use two swords at once, you need to fucking implement the ability to use two swords at once instead of adding an item that is two swords. Holy fuck, what is that guy thinking? What's next? "A mated pair of two pistols"?
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>>147141007
>Mummies replaced with high-level MuMos
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So does Oberon require lots of preparation like J does?
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>>147141857
Not really, Oberon is pretty easy actually
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>>147138627
The problem seems to be that you fucking suck at roguelikes.
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>>147141857
Nah, he's a limp-dicked and wristed faggit.
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>>147136665
>Coolthulhu complaining about HEMA stuff
>when there is Venom Mob, drunken master, etc
Man, Coolthulhu is slowly becoming Lamethulhu. I wish he would stick to being that cool dude who actually gets shit done instead of complaining about badwrongfun.
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>>147142036
dumb animemeposter
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>>147142036
>badwrongfun
>trying to have fun in the first place
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>>147142120
bad rudeposter

>>147142178
>image
kek'd
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>>147142254
>worstgirl
yeah, you don't really have to add anything else.
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>>147142460
Never fucking reply to me again unless you're contributing to the thread.
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>>147142593
>only 4chan pass users can vote
What kind of jewry is this?
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>>147142672
But that's living the dream.
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>>147143974
Is that a mind-flayer?
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how do I kill a leprechaun in nethack
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>>147144000
maybe
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>You sense a faint wave of psychic energy.
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>>147144180
>wow, everything looks so cosmic now
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Which Roguelike would you say is the absolute best, all things considered?
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>>147145032
I'd say it's a tie between Dredmor and Vanilla Bagel and I'm sure most people here agree though they might find one of them slightly better than the other.
But dudes, I've fucked HUNDREDS of anime girls, this isn't "my" first time, this is just another anime girl staining my cum rag among hundreds of others, so what if she offers "me" her virginity I've conquered like 100 other virgins. Anyway, yeah.
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>>147145032
Right now? Nethack or poschengband. But some very interesting ones are currently being developed, for example URR and some of these being deved right on this board.
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Ok /rlg/, I have a problem:
I have put cursed levitation boot and I can't take them off, and I have to go down the stairs, what do I do?

on nethack btw
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>>147145685
nevermind resolved by praying
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What are the benefits of playing Crawl online, rather than offline?
I don't get it.
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>>147145520
>pcb
>absolute best
Just no in so many ways
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>>147145949
Just don't abuse it too much, Gods get pissed quickly
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>>147146062
Savescumming.
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>>147146062
Waving your dick online
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>>147146089
Better than crawl and probably most of other *bands.
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>>147146187
Never fucking reply to me again unless you're contributing to the thread.
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Which god should I pick?
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>>147146187
>Better than crawl
That's not saying much desu
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Stop pretending Crawl is bad. It's easily the best roguelike out there. Period.
This meme that it's bad when 95% of the thread play and talk about it is comedy gold.
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>>147146493
I haven't played since they had the audacity to remove sludge elves.
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>>147146493
I disagree.
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Speaking of Crawl...
Why do I eventually need to "upgrade" to using armor on a mage? That is fucking lame as shit. I want to be able to always wear robes.
Why does every character eventually turn into a battlemage that uses melee and magic? Game sucks tbqhwy
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>>147146820
>the reason /rlg/ was made on /vg/ was to discuss crawl

Wrong, faggot.

The very first threads were pretty much Nethack discussion. In fact, the very first OP image was Nethack.
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>>147147003
Fuck off cuck.
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>>147147085
Being a cuckold I disdain the implication that cuckolds are basic bitches who can't into roguelikes.
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>>147148148
Didn't you hear, if you ever do anything wrong ever by another's stadards you're a cuck.
We're all cucks now, time to embrace it.
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>>147148219
I embraced cuckolding before it was cool.
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>>147148536
Uh, okay, good for you buddy.
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>>147146062
There are none, unless count growing your internet dicku and needing to prove to others that you're "good"
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>>147148652
Btw, I embraced your mom after it was cool.
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>>147149526
Me too.
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>>147146062
You get to fight other people's ghosts instead of your own
Automated recordkeeping tells you how bad you suck
The school computers have Putty
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New lifing this shit the first chance I get. 18/70 on a tonberry is the pits.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GjsnYmi4z0U

I can't stop listening to this autistic song help me famalam
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>random nexus hound in labyrinth swaps my str and chr
>cuts my melee damage in half
Fuck everything.
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>>147146307
If you have to ask, Xom.
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>>147151818
I know, nexus is fucking cancer.
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Other than winning, killing your own ghost in Crawl has to be the best feeling. At least nobody's gonna have to suffer from that particular fault of mine.
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You know, speaking of switching genders of uniques in Crawl, switching Dowan and Duvessa would sort of makes sense in the context that the verse in their flavour text has their father encouraging the plain-looking sister to mind her books.
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I didn't know you could possibly get special weapons from the thieves quest reward so early on.
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I saw someone saying earlier than there was an option to auto-challenge monsters when you attacked them with a Duelist. Where I can find the option?
I'm a complete retard at this.
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>>147075131
CDDA dev here. vivat is our prophet. Mock him at your own peril.

We will burn the game to the ground! You will not take our vibrators!
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>>147154454
you gotta download mpa-pcb for it.
look for it in the archives.
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>>147154454
It's not really an option, it's a change that was made in the MarvinPA version of PCB.
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>>147154556
>>147154586
Ok; thanks. I'll look at it.
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>>147075131
No, but this used to be a Cataclysm dev
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>2 potions of strength from stronghold
Feels good being /lucky/
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Ok, time to make a new PCB char based on my junkie ex gf, need race/class idea, i was thinking cyberdemon, since she devours souls and destroys her environment... and walks erratically at times.
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>>147155162
Kobold Berserker desu
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>>147154689
Yeah, KA101 just misgendered a princess. What a shitloard.
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What are some good more "open ended" roguelike type games? I've played Elona.
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>>147154689
>gender neutral pronouns
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>>147155295
Yeah my first thought was berserker also, but fuck do I hate playing them in any game.

Unrelated: My 10 year old plays Unreal World and loves it. She loved crawling to a river for water. Never seen someone so close to dying having a blast. Something to learn from there.
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>>147155438
Cataclysm
DF adventure mode
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>>147155635
Why do people compare CDDA and DF so much?
Its like you compare a broken toy with a Ferrari 458.
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New Demon!
http://demon.ferretdev.org/devblog/
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>>147155596
Maybe a Kobold Ninja then? Though that doesn't really fit your ex. Also your daughter sounds pretty cool.
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>>147155914
They're both broken toys in different ways.
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>>147155497
CDDA is pretty high up there in SJW like land. At least some of the devs/mods.

Comes with the darklingwolf and others being furries i guess.
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>>147156085
Im just glad she played dirty iron age snowtrodder on Unreal instead of Felid splat fest on DCSS. She does well enough, but she doesnt know when to run, yet.
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Imagine how DF would look if the CDDA dev where developing it. Damn, one scary image.
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Maulers are pretty fun and stronk. Is Vice the best weapon for them? I remember some anons talking about Typh sword being really good.
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>>147156527
maulers are definitely stronk, though in the midgame they often have trouble finding a great weapon (lategame they have lots of options)

Vice is at least one of the best weapons for them. Grond is better but...you have to win to get it so that doesn't really count. Typh sword is very good because it's 5d12 sharp with elec immunity (for zeus generally, and for serpent's auras)...it's bigger dice than ymir's. There are other good weapons too. A reasonable number of uniques have a greatly improved chance to drop their heavy artifact weapon if you're a mauler.
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>>147090467
actually finished the first part of the main quest after seven years because I suck at the game and play it infrequently
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>>147155914
He asked for open ended roguelike type games, and gave Elona as an example. Those two were the first that came to mind.

There's also Unreal World (survival in iron-age Finland) and Ultima Ratio Regnum (no idea? uncovering the illuminati?)(last time I tried it there was basically nothing to do but look at the trees)(they're nice trees though)
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>>147156739
>Grond is better but...you have to win to get it so that doesn't really count
You win when you kill Morgoth? Or does he only spawn after you kill J? Because I really want that Grond.
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>>147157104
big J drops Grond and the Massive Iron Crown of Chaos. Morgy only drops it in variants (and vanilla) where he is the final monster.
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>>147157104
to clarify, you can definitely fight Morgoth before the serpent, but Morgoth won't drop his hammer
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>>147157201
>>147157315
Oh come on that is fucking gay as hell. Thanks for the help anyway anon.
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>>147156031
Okay, I've been following you and your game with its updates in these thread, and I've tried several times to actually get into it because it seems so damn neat and unique and interesting, but I never could.

The font makes me want to punch a kitten. Is there any way I can change it? Maybe I've been overlooking a glowing option that allows me to do that, but I can't seem to find a way. Seriously, the font is really unpleasant to me. It's my personal opinion and taste, sure, but that's how it is.
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>>147142036
His issue with it was because it was a hack you utter jackanape.
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>>147156031
>no proper changelog anywhere I can easily find (i.e. not linked to from the main post)
>feels the need to explain that he's stopping dev-ing (for a week!) because his mum died to a bunch of random internet dudes
I don't get it.
Post a changelog next time.
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>>147157884
If only the devs had the perception to see that they were a bunch of fucking retards.
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>>147157942
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>>147157942
can't see the forest for the xes
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Best race to play Gozag with?
Bonus points if it's also fitting to the character/race/class.
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>>147157942
>>147158205
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>>147158552
mummy fighter

I'm not even kidding, some anon advised another anon to do that about a month ago and they both played it and had a great time

and since you didn't need to eat the corpses anyways, the gold corpses is fine
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Gentlemen I present you:

Grenade threatening nikheizen one day after he closed his pull.
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>>147158552
Seconding Mu.
It actually makes Mu pretty fun. I ran a MuEE^Gozag and it was great- despite MuEE being totally awful.
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Abilities seem to miss a lot with maulers.
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>>147158654
>>147158792
Mummy it is then. I could roleplay a pharaoh who was mummified alive because he was too much of a greedy asshole and didn't care about his kingdom. Thanks dudes.
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>>147158789
>threatening
what am I missing here? It seems like he's giving advice on how to avoid getting prickly sjws up in arms while still getting your changes in

>>147158871
when you get very few blows/round it's easier to notice when you're missing. Your accuracy is probably pretty bad still.
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>>147158871
Because abilities use your accuracy and you have to hit 1/1 times. (unless 5.0)
Maulers seem to miss a lot in general (unless 5.0), simply because they don't get multiple blows. It still seems like you "hit" when "You miss, you miss, you miss, you miss, you hit!"
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>>147158972
the tread lightly part
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>>147156739
They should be better in midgame with 5.0.0, since they lose the extra weight-dependant multiplier (where something like a lance performs poorly) in extra for 3 max blows.

Don't know how it compares with the really heavy stuff, though.
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>>147158789
>>147158972
It would probably be better if he wasn't one of these "prickly sjws" himself, but that's a valid point. However, commenting on a closed PR like that is pretty weird regardless of the circumstances. Oh well. CDDA Devstuff is wierd.
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>>147158972
>>147159038
Oh, well in that case I think I'll just keep away from them for a little bit since using those abilities costs a noticeable amount of health. Also bosses shouting "AAAARRRGGGHHH!!!" before exploding into a pile of gore is so satisfying.
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>>147159050
but...isn't that the part about avoiding getting the sjws riled? At least that's how I read it, not as a "thread lightly kiddo" threat but as a "shh just quietly move forward and don't present a wall for opposition to rail against"

but I don't know the cdda community/devs at all so IDK
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>>147157942
CDDA dev here. My feelings are hurt. :( asshole.
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>>147158789
>removing fursuits and vibrators is somehow contentious

o i am laffin

Really the only way to stop this shit is to clog up the PRs 50 different types of fursuits and since there are vibrators there might as well be fleshlights and real dolls and since you can use a sex toy you might as well be able to fap too.
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Where to download (pirate) Vanilla Bagel from?
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>>147159237
The threads there also warn against creating blacklists that say they ban 'silly stuff, useless stuff' and then continue to ban stuff that has an ingame use. For example removing the healing injectors in the 'lets remove the fetish gear' mod.
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>>147159490
>>146756397
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>tfw no aaaarrrggghhh
>tfw no speaking flag
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>>147159570
that's some ransomware virus shill
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>>147159730
Every dungeon guardian should have a speaking flag.
I will make a request to Chris about it, although that won't come to fruition for a couple years yet.
You'd have to update though.
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>>147157942
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What server in DCSS online is the most played? I just want to spectate games.
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SpEn here.

Which of these should I hang onto and enchant up?

>short blades - 14
>stealth - 27

I'm still not sure how stabbing works along with that damage cap stuff.
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>>147159957
I'd update just for that.
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>>147160035
webtiles.akrasiac.org
I think
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>5 pounds
ARE YOU KIDDING ME???
Found a Heavy Lance that is +7 +5 though.
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>>147160035
Just watch the server closest to you, so lag doesn't make you want to kill yourself.
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>>147160219
forgot pic
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>>147159957
It's possible it doesn't have the speaking flag because cow head.

Do other non-humanoid bosses like Jormungand have it?
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>>147160039
Drain rapier, you'll probably find a randart soon enough
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>>147160039
The Quickblade is your go-to for anything alive. Enchant that.
Keep the dagger for stabs.
You should use your other spells to handle demons undead.
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>>147160386
Nah Jormun doesn't have it and I think for some reason you only destroy it, not slay it (which means it doesn't leave a corpse)
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>>147160039
QB, with the rapier of elec as backup for undead and other stuff you can't drain. Both are 3 rune tier weapons.
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Is Zin the shittest god ever or am I missing something.
Red pill me on taking Zin.
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>>147160698
>meat not being on the menu
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>>147160698
He is pretty bad. I think devs purposefully nerfed resmut just so he could be sort of viable.
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>>147160698
>get invo
>make heretics and demons pillars of salt
>????
>profit!!
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>>147156527
typh is good because of the stats but if you don't need elec immunity Big Punch hits much harder just because it's 80lb
no brands though so you need them from gloves/rings

vice is probably good too, i haven't gotten it yet
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>>147161020
I think maulers have a guaranteed source of elec immunity from Razorback.
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>>147160698
You're meant to rush 27 invocations and be the best jehovahs' witness you can. Read from your book to turn heretics into corpses and spam vitalize when you fight something big. He gives you the best panic button in the game, protects you from hell effects AND mutations. He is pretty solid.
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>>147161154
*everybody* gets razorback....cthulhu always drops it
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>>147161216
That's why I said guaranteed.
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>>147160698
>literal death immunity at 5*
>los instakills in pan/hell
>vitalisation
>pretty much immune to muts
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>tfw probably 1000+ games in DCSS total
>never managed to win
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>>147144069
Also Winblows is actually very strong if you can deal with aggravate and -6 speed. |Quake causes unresistable stun whenever you do more than 50 damage just from dice (maulers have no problems doing this, but other classes usually need Grond), although uniques get a saving throw.

It lets you combine vamp + permastun + crushing blow which is very soon.
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>>147162050
You qualify for {awfulplayers} then, I believe.
lol
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>>147163212
YOU MEAN MY STATS GET REGISTERED?
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>>147162050
HOW?

>>147163340
Yes they do, if you are playing online lol
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>>147162050
You have to be retarded.
The only other people I've seen who have <1% win rates with that many games are speedrunners like 4thArra (who does win, eventually!) and people like that DsWn guy who is a legitimate idiot.
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>>147162050
BONA FIDE, CARD CARRYING AWFUL PLAYER.
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>>147160270
I became a better player after playing on webtiles. The lag helps me take my time and consider my options more carefully. Before that, I used to do everything too quickly and I splatted before realizing I had better options at hand.
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>>147163670
>You have to be retarded.

I AM. I LOST ONE DAY WITH TROG MINOTAUR WITH SKILL LEVEL UP POTION, +6 RING OF STR AND CRYSTAL PLATE ARMOR BEFORE GETTING TO D:10. SAVE ME
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Why is no one shitposting about ToME 4 with me >>>/v/343411289
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>you will never be an archer and find these
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>>147164175
Last time I went to talk about roguelikes in /v/, someone was posting my screenshots and it weirded me out. Besides, I prefer the roguelike only threads where there might be some better discussion.
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>>147164206
Bowmaster maybe

My archer doesn't care, he has a pile of 300 homemade seeker bolts in his home.
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>>147164342
>homemade
Right I forgot archers can just shit out ammo.
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>>147155162
monster possessor
it's the "pos" in "poschengband" (from posband, which added it originally) and it's great
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So is it just me, or has DDA stalled out completely?

Like... Kevin seems determined to be NoFunAllowed.jpg and shoot down every possible addition, but no one on the team has the skill to do any meaty work on the engine.
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>a heavy lance does more damage than this simply because it weighs more
Fucking maulers man.
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>>147164573
Gotta do that ms quest ASAP famalam
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>>147164573
>complaining about a class that can do a full turn of damage with any aura of retaliation
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>>147164683
>-7 speed
I don't think I can handle it.
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>>147164683
>>147164789
Actually nevermind I just checked and it's -4. Not that bad.
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>>147164683
Winblows is one of the most compelling arguments for doing randarts only.
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>>147164925
unresistable permastun tho familia
who doesn't want to rek a GWOP
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>>147164538
I was about to say that this looked like a great idea which would constitute "meaty work on the engine", then I realized that That One Retard had replied to it between the last time I looked and now.

https://github.com/CleverRaven/Cataclysm-DDA/issues/17398
>Rivet-the-Zombie reacted with a thumbs-up emoji

Nigga just because you don't dev the game for shit anymore doesn't mean that you should be preventing anyone else from devving it. Step down.
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>>147165118
I'm actually not sure if you're referring to Kevin or Rivet as "That One Retard," since they're both fuckheads who contribute nothing and block all progress these days.
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>>147165261
The small one is called master, the little one is called blaster.
They are a unit.
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>>147165369
I fucked up their sized.
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This is an ambush alright especially since I have slay orc already.
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>>147165559
What kind of Troll?
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>>147165559
>slay orc

More like slay dork am I right or am I right haha.
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>>147165557
And yet it made me laugh even more, picturing a manlet and a female midget trying to hack it in the Thunderdome.
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This feels better than random ass d:2 QDA's or rings of slaying.
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>>147146307
Okuwaru is never a bad pick and Makhleb works for most as well.

Qazlal would also work if you need more range and are already good on gear.
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>"I guess I'll try having Ashenzari as my god today"
>Wandered around 4 and a half floors with "Moderately Bound" status
>Not 1 pip of piety

???
Wat.
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>>147166030
You don't get full piety until you're done with lair.
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>[2014-04-18 21:57:57] nooodl the Charlatan (L1 FoAr) entered the Depths on turn 27. (D:15)
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>>147165656
I am a Stone Troll was a Troll King originally at the moment. Also, look who joined the orc gangbang.
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>>147166304
SAY GOODBYE TO THE WORLD YOU LIVE IN
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>>147159364
The fursuit is literally a joke item, you congenital walrus.
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>>147165697
I will fucking cut you, m8.
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>>147166513
Your dick is a joke item.
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>>147166513
It was also added specifically for /rlg/.
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>>147166665
I bet it was ponyposter's fault.
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http://crawl.akrasiac.org/rawdata/Krusk/Krusk.txt
if anyone is bored

http://crawl.akrasiac.org:8080/#watch-Krusk
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>>147166780
Far before his time.
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>>147166890
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>>147166890
>those muts
Were it not for this being online I'd be 100% sure that was savescumming. Damn.
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>Bazaar on early D

J U S T
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>>147165772
And I die to a D:8 unseen horror and bee pack. I'm so sad right now. I can never get draconians off the ground.
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>>147166890
Oh wait.
>Turns: 1403708, Time: 13 , 06:51:44
That explains it.
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>>147166504
Nah, have this sword instead after those two ambushes Stone Troll stronk
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>>147167459
I hope you went Spirit Troll for wacky hijinks.
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>>147166890
Isn't this before gozag zigging got nerfed?
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>>147166890
>>147167050
>that dosh

THE RANSOM DEMAND IS ONE MILLION DOLLARS
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>>147167582
Started out as Troll King for dat mad melee, turned into a Stone Troll after lvl 10 or so. I'm enjoying it so far.
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>>147167634
live right now
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DISSOLVE
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>>147166890

You have visited 18 branches of the dungeon, and seen 95 of its levels.
You have visited Pandemonium 172 times, and seen 405 of its levels.
You have visited the Abyss 158 times.

>You have visited 40 ziggurats (completing 39), and seen 1069 of their levels.
You have also visited: Bailey, Ice Cave and Wizlab.
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>>147167634
>>147168236
Yes. 17.2 still had the ridiculously broken gozag gold distraction in zigs.
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>>147168236
No, I mean the version is .17.2 . Gozag got nerfed in .18 trunk in mega zigs, which were also buffed at the same time to be more dangerous. I'm unsure if the change was put into the bugfix versions of the stable.
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>>147166890
>3.5 million
Just how long have you been at this?
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>>147168442
>http://crawl.akrasiac.org/rawdata/Krusk/Krusk.txt
> Turns: 1409877, Time: 13 , 07:14:08
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>>147168584
doesn't show date of his start though which could be years away on and off
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>>147168218
I then faulted *hard* because I was too fucking retarded to remember refilling my light up with fuel

Don't roguelike while sleep deprived folks
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>>147168218
You don't start as your chosen subrace, that's your final evolution.
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>>147167083
I get huge lists of positive mutations all the time just from early Xom.
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>>147168708
That release is from the ass end of last year. He has probably been on that character for months.
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>>147168772
Good to know, I chose the race mostly because I wanted to play something a lil differnt. I guess this would also apply to several different other monster races too eh?
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>>147167050
Amazing
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>>147169037
It applies to almost all of them I think. They go through various evolutions on the way to a final form, though with some (hydra, jelly) it's a fixed path and for hounds it's random. In addition I believe for the various types that you choose a subrace they all share starting races. For example trolls, giants, and golems all go through the same few early forms before you start to hit different ones unique to the subrace you chose at birth.
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hnnnnnngh
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>>147164538
Yeah, came back after a long absence. Seems like they are only introducing 'no fun allowed' new game mechanics. For the realism of course.
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>>147167083
you get a lot of potions of beneficial mutations when you do that many zigs, and lich form prevents unwanted mutations.
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So I'm playing a heavy armor, shield/sword wielding character and I just prayed to a random god, which turned out to be Dithminos.

Is this going to be utterly shit since I'm not focused on stealth or?
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>When you just want to go to sleep after fixing up an apc all day and there's a heavily armed man sitting in your bed and the nearby windows smashed open
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>>147170287
at least you didnt break any load bearing fences
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>>147169497
Yeah, I realized shortly after I posted that he'd been scumming zigs for ages and those had to have all been from benemut pots.
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>>147170196
Yup you just fucked yourself over m80
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>>147170196
He's going to prove you with stealth you otherwise wouldn't have. Bceuase of that, sometimes a dangerous unique might enter your LoS but you won't wake it up, and you'll be able to walk away safely.
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>>147170196
use shadow step to walk away
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>>147170391
>load bearing fences

That sounds sexual enough for me to masturbate to it.
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>>147170196
Dith's free stealth/dodging is good for anyone, and the shadow mimics your attacks. It won't be bad, you'll probably stabilize at 2-3 pips of stealth which is really great for a heavy melee dude. You don't need to be spec'd into stealth to gain from the death mango.
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>>147170602
>provide
>because
fug
>>
How does one stop auto-destroying corpses/skeletons when playing as a necromancer in PosChengBand? WITHOUT having to learn how to program or some crazy shit, i'm just one man.
>>
I was using ` with < or > to travel to stairs in pcb, but now it isn't auto-selecting the stairs when I do that. What did I do to fuck it up and how do I fix it?
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>>147170816
>>147170869
>PCB
Sorry m8 it's terminal
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>>147170816
You mess with the autodestroyer options so that it stops autodestroying corpses.
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>>147170981
Well of course, you don't expect me to use those ugly tiles, do you?
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>>147170981
Sorry you only play meme games. Even if this game turns out to be cancerous shit, I'd rather experience a wider range of RLs so I don't turn out like you sheeple.

>>147171063
Meh, I'll just give up on necros instead
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>>147170816
Add these lines to your auto-destroyer preferences (pickpref-NAME.prf):

?:[EQU $CLASS Necromancer]
wanted corpses#!k
wanted skeletons#!k
~corpses
~skeletons
?:1
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>>147171492
M8, you can't play PCB without knowing how to use the autodestroyer. Don't be a little bitch about it, you open it up and delete/change whatever line is destroyed corpses.
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>>147171492
>lmao meme games!
>meh
>doesn't understand autodestroy
kys my man
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>>147171576
Oh and you will want to add this before the lines which handle corpses (ctrl+f corpse in the file).
I'm not sure if corpse and skeleton should be pluralized, check how the pickpref handles it and use pluralization where it does.
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>>147171690
Why would you kiss that man? He is too lazy to figure out one of the most important features of PCB and shitposts with wild abandon. He deserves a gentle but firm smack on the nose with a rolled up newspaper, so that he may one day learn what it means to try.
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>>147171576
>>147171602
Now, that I've got some help with the syntax, I'll dive right in.
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>>147171492
Are you using the easy autodestroyer or the mogaminator?
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>>147171876
>Now, that I've got some help with the syntax, I'll dive right in.
Good lord man did you even try checking the help files? There's an extremely well written one on this topic.
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>>147166890
>those Zig floors full of juggernauts
One day I may.
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>>147171835
>>147171690
I don't want to learn a whole system if there is an options menu that could solve things in seconds. I downloaded this game yesterday... clearly against the advice of this whole board, give me a break, FAMmar
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>>147166890
>You hear a roar! x297

jej
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>>147172329
You literally open the menu, look at the syntax and find what you want to change. It'll explain the changes you're making as you make them. Now, if you really want convoluted, try making a macro that does more than 2 button presses.
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>>147166890
Shitter here

how the fuck is this fair
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>>147172690
By that point you should be able to Shrek everything with relative ease.
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>>147166890
How does one get this far in the game and only have 8 rat kills? Impossible! Its sad to see that he has to use hacks to have fun...
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>>147172690
It's not
He kills a couple dozen of them with 2 spell casts in 14 auts.
The killed enemies generate a large amount of gold, which dazes other monsters.
Then many monsters lose their turns, and he kills more, and the effects stack up to perma-stun within ~35 auts.
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>>147172690
He is using gozag before he got nerfed to absolutely wreck zigs. Honestly though, if you can get a character with tornado into a zig, you can snowball hard enough to be able to clear more zigs.
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>>147170869
The answer to this was to turn the expand_list option on.

I don't know how it got turned off, but okay.
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>>147172906
A guy so salty at someone else's success that he has to make claims of him being a hacker of an online network. Very sad!
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>>147160069
kek
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>>147160069
Weird seeing blacks dress with modesty compared to what we have now.
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>>147173914
/pol/ pls go
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>>147173914
Everyone dressed better before the 90s.

Now it's t-shirts and flipflops.
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>>147173337
You must have a sodium deficiency if you are that desperate for me to be salty... this is like grade school level sarcasm. Although, you might be ESL, so I won't judge, I'll just deport you over the Trumpwall
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>>147173337
>>147174798
Poe's Law wins again.
>>
Well, I'm stuck yet again in the Minotaurs lair.
This is what? My fourth character that I've had to abandon because this place is fucking impossible to navigate

>J-just find the black wall
Yes, I do, and it's always a fucking dead end that doesn't let me in.

Fuck this game is garbage.
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>>147175360
This has to be bait.
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>fighting hell knight in arena
>he's low and i'm about 400 health so whatever i'll just finish him off
>he summons The King In Yellow and Jack of Shadows
>i behold the grisly visage of The King
>confused
>Jack Darkness Storms me while I'm trying to quaff heal to get this confusion off
I just got wombo-comboed to hell and back. Goodbye mauler.
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>>147174798
>He he I was only pretending to be retarded!
>>
who wants to make new? ill do it in 5 minutes if no one else wants to
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>>147173337
>Very sad!
I love this meme
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New:
>>147175715
>>
First for Chei.
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>>147166890
>the Invulnerable
Heh, if this title ever made any sense, it's now
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>>147175665
Well, statistically, a non-zero number of retards are going to be just pretending.... so you were bound to run into one eventually
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>>147071012
first for chei
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How long did it take you to get bored of thee repetitiveness of roguelikes (namely crawl)
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>>147169421
See, their stated design philosophy is "Everything gets worse, forever, all the time."

And that's... well, not even remotely what I want from a game about picking at the bones of civilization.

Damn pity. Any post-apoc or zombie roguelikes in dev at the moment?
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