/gerg/ - Giant Extreme Robots General

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rip hawken

Oh boy, a fucking CW/ FW event.

Let's see how hard nigger spheroids complain THIS time about the scout queue despite having the best mediums and the best light now.

>>147070818

Stormcrow is an inner sphere mech now? cool

>>147073086
clan capture ;^)

>>147073086
>le 50 tonner that has the HP of a 70 tonner face :^)
>le untouchable packet loss shielding mech face :^)

>>147073513
55 tonner*

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>it's a "let's maneuver in this direction without saying anything to the guy in the slow mech and abandon him" episode

>>147075412
Nice situation all awareness you mentally and physically slow anigay fucktard

live

Are you gonna have enough for today's matches?

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>>147081534
today I will remind them.

ATTN: KONG LORDS ATTN: KONG LORDS ATTN: KONG LORDS ATTN: KONG LORDS ATTN: KONG LORDS ATTN: KONG LORDS

We have two games tonight. One at 8 EST and one at 10 EST. Be there. Please? I'm unfastening the helium tank in case we get a 7-man appearance again.

ATTN: KONG LORDS ATTN: KONG LORDS ATTN: KONG LORDS ATTN: KONG LORDS ATTN: KONG LORDS ATTN: KONG LORDS ATTN: KONG LORDS

So just started playing MWO, had my first match. I got 2 kills and 6 assists. Used the trial arctic cheetah and I really liked going fast with lasers. What's the best mech if I want to zoom around and annoy people? In the /v/ thread someone was talking about the spider but there's 5 different versions and then ones I can't buy seem to have the best loadout

>>147083591

Arctic Cheetahs are solid. So are Locusts, which are both fast and tiny while pewpewpewing (though they'll explode if successfully sneezing on).

Firestarters are OK. Spiders can be good, but I'd start with ACHs or Locusts first.

>>147083852
Yeah I ended up getting both arms blown off the cheetah when I stood still for a second but luckily survived. Guess I'll try to find some guides for certain mechs and what to equip on them

I really like the Urbanmech
Sure it lacks the speed of other light mechs, but that 360° rotation has saved me morr than once

>>147083995
Meta mechs has decent guides for all mechs.

http://metamechs.com/mwo-guides/clan-master-guides/arctic-cheetah/

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>>147083268

Will the Kong Lords make it another week?
Will the Eurokong miss another match?
Will Kakos ever resolve his internet crisis?
Will Whispers return from his vacation too late?
Will Harabec and Vass realize they have a drug problem?
Will Pizzadog find out that his helium tank is mysteriously empty?

Stay tuned next time for the thrilling conclusion of Kong Tournament Woes!

>faction play event
Why? Just why?

>>147083268

theres a chance i may not make it.

>>147083995

Lasers are generally a good choice- for the especially fast, small and small pulse ones (SPL ACHs are almost a default at this point). Locusts can SL or ML their ride up, even a single large or large pulse in a few cases.

>>147086271
Will PGI and the tournament hosts ever realize they need to let the teams update their fucking rosters so they can actually have people who will show up? No

>>147086446

They want more of the 37,000 or so accounts in FW.

Sadly, aside from FW being shit for most people, it's actually better to just play the few games needed for premium time and then fuck off entirely back to quick play, as even with the event matchmaker times will be painfully slow and the bottom-feeding legendary.

Is this exceptionally depressing robots?

>>147087507
Considering there wasn't even a general for at least half a day I'd say so.

>>147085741
thanks for the link
all the info on mechs is still pretty overwhelming so I assume it's okay just to straight up copy one of those guides for now

>>147090471
He doesn't have the final word on what builds to use, and he has a few strange biases. But if you're a new player you probably can't go wrong with it.

>tfw wrong place at the wrong time
I feel like this happens so much. I really wish I knew how to avoid this, but it always feels like I'm the first to eat a flank or get left behind.

>>147086790

If you fuck up and drop out, that's just making it faster for PGI to get to the end of this.

Which is probably a mercy for this clusterfuck of a "Esport".

>>147092282
Pay attention to your minimap. You should always know where your teammates are and stick with them.

You shouldn't be by yourself unless you know precisely where the enemy is and are intending on catching someone unawares.

>>147092807
The problem is that most of the time I'm with my team I eat the flank from the opposing team, but a lot of the time I get left behind it's just because I am simply slower than the rest of my team. Like I have the biggest engine on my highlander, but I'm still only 58. I try my best to keep any eye on my minimap, but a lot of times I am simply way too slow.

>>147092997
Playing slow assaults isn't recommended because it's usually very rough depending on the map unless you play with some friends who can stick with you no matter what.

>>147086271
Episode TwentyFour - THE KONGENING This time, it isn't a game.

Pizzadog is in the worst trouble of her life. She'll need all her courage and all her training if she's going to make it out alive.

Stay tuned for the thrilling conclusion to the THE ORIGINAL WINNERS AND SINNERS - THE KONG YEARS.

>>147093204
I spent my first 20m on this mech man, like fuck.

I feel like if you want to be good in this game, it pays to mess around with shit tier mechs, if only to see how and why they falter comparatively
Or I am just a faggot

>>147093657
Yeah, there's a reason we always tell new people to start with a medium or a heavy. It's so you have time to learn the maps, to run around with the group, to be able to get out of a bad situation etc.

Assaults require knowledge of all the maps and where to position for optimal unleashing of firepower.

>>147092997

Slow assaults are in a horrible spot in solo queue, because you basically end up on your own. It's why heavies in part are so popular- they generally can get enough ground speed to avoid being left behind.

>>147092282
getting blindsided happens a lot to newer players, it's part of learning the game. it'll happen less often with time. if you want to study exactly how to avoid it, pay attention to things like:

>enemy spawn points
>usual chokepoints
>usual flank locations
>usual movement patterns

some maps are completely obnoxious and difficult to avoid being flanked on, Forest Colony being the most egregious example in my mind right now, so just do your best. also seismic sensor helps a LOT but it also costs a shitload and may be out of reach for spacepoor newfags. good luck my man.

>>147094516

You can also punch a UAV consumable up if you think you're about to get dunked on, which'll at least temporarily act as an "eye in the sky" and likely grab attention if the PUG isn't already engaged elsewhere.

If you get lightpacked, get your butt against cover and take your shots calmly. Don't frantically switch targets, just pummel one as best as you can and hopefully, drive it off. Repeat if you survive.

Being swarmed, panicking and randomly spraying fire just means you get dead with double digit damage and watch the game until it's over.

Also, when things start, get moving. Don't stop moving unless or until you're in the pack. Feel free to mention on team chat that you're a fat slowbie that needs some cover- the occasional friendly unit may just hang out and escort you if they know- never assume that people don't know you're a 58kph plodder.

>You're limited on the mechs allowed in faction play
Why? Who gives half a shit about this lore? If they want me to play this shitty mode so bad why don't they at least let me use my favorite array of mechs instead of limiting me? How did their tiny fucking brains arrive at the conclusion that if you are on an IS contract you can't use clan and vice versa?

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ATTN: KONG LORDS ATTN: KONG LORDS ATTN: KONG LORDS ATTN: KONG LORDS ATTN: KONG LORDS ATTN: KONG LORDS

FIRST GAME IN ONE HOUR
FIRST GAME IN ONE HOUR
FIRST GAME IN ONE HOUR

ATTN: KONG LORDS ATTN: KONG LORDS ATTN: KONG LORDS ATTN: KONG LORDS ATTN: KONG LORDS ATTN: KONG LORDS

>>147096603
no fuck off i have dinner you fucking slut

i hope your enemas are full of roaches

>>147095891
I know right!
Just because I'm playing starcraft as terran doesn't mean I shouldn't get to use zerg and protoss units!
Fucking CIS scum ruining my games.

hi i just started
is the dragon a good mech because it is my favorite

>>147097314
I'm a fucking mercenary, I should be able to use whatever mechs I wan't. It literally makes no sense. If I was actually in a faction I would at least KIND OF get it from a lore standpoint, but the fact that as a mercenary I can use a clan mech that I own is silly.

>>147097495
I've never played one and I don't see them too often in game so I can only tell based on their stats on paper.

AFAIK there's at least one decent variant and a decent hero.

>>147097712
If you're a mercenary then you sign a contract with clans if you want to play with and for clans.

How much easier do you want it?

>>147097495
>>147097859

Dragons are eh, in part because the hardpoint locations tend to restrict what it can do.

>>147096603
warning
kritical kong mass not detected
pls respond

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Get fhe fuck on mumble, klords. Tonight is league night.

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ATTENTION
WE ARE
CLAN
WOLF
WE ARE ROARING INTO BATTLE
CLAN SMOKE JAGUAR IS BLOWN THE FUCK OUT AND CAN STAY HOME WITH THEIR SHITTY COPY CAT MECHS
CLAN
WOLF

CONFIRMED FOR COMPLETELY UNRELIABLE YET AGAIN:
HARABEC
JULES

>>147090973
well yeah but this happens to me with every game and I'm sure other people deal with it the same way
when you're a newbie you're trying to process every single thing on screen and understand it
as you become more experienced you know what on screen you don't necessarily need to pay attention to or care about and what other things mean at a glance
looking at a build right now is alien language for me as all I've done so far is mash that quick play button

Go fuck yourself Jules. Never fucking show your fucking IP around here again. If you do you're fucking banned if I'm in the mumble.

why is my voice so squeaky and high pitched?

oh

right

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>go into mumble to see how the tournament is going
>8:00 PM EST, Vass's butthurt reaches critical after the team DQ's because two faggots don't show up
>exactly 15 minutes later, both of those faggots show up and ask if they're too late
>some faggot on the roster is hiding out in overwatch and there's a match in two hours

watching this tournament scheduling is more fun than any of the matches that have actually happened

>two light locusts start running around my ankles doing nothing
>INCOMING MISSILES
>missiles literally never stop hitting
>die
balanced weapons central.

Can you sell parts in this game? The build I'm trying to do requires a lighter engine but they cost a ton

>>147108425
In the inventory on the home tab

>>147108540
thanks

>>147108425
>>147108425
Try not to sell certain common engines since those are useful.

>>147099901
Fuck off, Falcon us better than you clan Davion Mary sues

>>147110119
Wolf > Falcon you meme loving fuck

>>147110437
No they're not, Chaotic "0.61 KDR" Urlond. Fuck off furfag before you feel the wrath of the falcon's knot.

>>147110437
>wolf player
>calls other factions mary sues

>first game
>6 players show up
>forfeit
>2 players show up 15 minutes late

>second game
>7 players show up
>vass went to bed
>nobody else shows up
>forfeit

great team you guys have here.

>>147110119
tfw dunking on steiner in scout drops and getting artillery for chaffee invasions

>>147111818
What

Do you know how to read

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Here's the map for the upcoming battletech game.

>>147112908
>canopus
>taurian
>aurigan

who?

>>147113562
Canopus and The Taurians are two small periphery factions which aren't particularly significant.

The last faction is made up specifically for this game in an area of space that wasn't particularly developed.

>>147113562
>I read Sarna xD, don't hit on me silly boys - Commander Shit

I just came back to MWO recently after like 2 years just to see what was up and I picked up the "new" clanner jenner.

Holy shit please I'm doing like 600-700 damage done per fight. This doesn't seem very fair

>>147116804
t. Tier 5

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ded thred

>>147112908
The Chicoms in Space are gonna be the treacherous big bad villain again, aren't they? They just can't catch a break. Though I don't see how that would work with a full merc mode that is supposed to allow contracts throughout the Sphere.

>>147116804

A good chassis with a decent player in the seal pup fields of T5-T4 will ruin the field with it.

Not that the Jenner IIC is a bad Clan light,especially going all SRMs and just alphaing everything in sight- but it's second to the Oxide due to losing body parts when looked at crossly.

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>just fuck my Lynx up

>>147120989
It's probably too early to assume that. I would in fact say the focus would be on the three periphery factions and some sort of conflict between them.

rip

HAIRY PUSSY PLEASE REPORT TO THE MUMBLE SERVER FOR PUSSAY INSPECTION

Boo

>>147122975
>running your mist lynx that close to so many enemies

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>>147122975

sup you thirsty fags lmao

>>147132565
Fuck off Chris

>you guys aren't shitposting in the gerg thread are you?

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Shitposting o'clock huh?

https://youtu.be/iRD6hZvFCuw

>>147115231
> taurians
> not very significant

Not disagreeing with you, but try and say this on nearly any battletech forum and you'll get a veritable wall of 'REEEEEEEE' thrown at you.

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>>147111908

>>147136030
They become a little more significant later in the timeline but in 3025 that's accurate.

Boo

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>kong falling apart due to piggis soul sucking machine

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>>147142559

It's true.

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>when you have all the modules, robots and skills

>>147145008
The absolute mad man.

Has anyone played Hawken on consoles yet?

I'm interested in what the frame rate/general performance is.

>>147145393
Is it even out yet?

>>147145461
It's out on xbone today, ps4 next week

how does this look?
will it be viable?
main weapons are the pulse lasers, i will use the srm and mgs to open up and crit internals if something tries to rush in my face
also tank with the relatively expendable right arm and right side

http://mwo.smurfy-net.de/mechlab#i=230&l=49eed8c9f1987ef16c8a77976192eda04ec1b0e7

>>147150076
It would be better if it was just 6 MPL and more DHS. The SRM pack and MGs are useless.

>locusts have supreme lag shield
>literally stand still and don't take damage from 5x medium pulse lasers
>can kill assaults and heavies without any problem because "hurr durr quirks are 2 hard to chaeng t: Paul Ding Dong cocaine-u"
>URRRHH LOCUST IS BALANCD URRRRRHHH LOCUSTS DIE INSTANTLY URRRRRHHH

>>147152345
t. not streakcrow owner

>>147152453
>bring streakboat
>congratulations, you can't fight against any IS medium that's not a penis hawk
>hunchback 4SP's literally have the same HP as a 70 tonner

>>147152345
>see people bitching about locust shields
> Slam 4srm6 into one at 180 meters moving full speed
>it dies
Damn it feels good to not be shit.

>hatepriest and his gaggle of [228]s on my team in CW
Should I just give up now

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anyone playin the xbone release yet?

>>147155875
>owning an xbone

So just made first mech based on a guide. I really like the faster mechs thus far so I bought a Jenner iic, gave it an xl 300 engine with two heatsinks, and slapped as many SRMs on it as possible while maxing out armor. Problem is I don't feel like I'm playing it right. Rockets don't seem to be doing very much damage even if I flank someone and unload point blank. Am I just supposed to annoy people and run away till I can find someone at relatively low hp? I have no problem with that, would just like some clarification. The only useful things I've done in the past few matches is chase down enemy lights flanking us and distract the big uns

>>147156070
with a jenner IIC you can have 6srm6 for a total of srm 36, which is a major, major hit to the back of any mech. However with your xl 300 I'm not so sure how many srms you can fit, that's a heavy engine for the JIIC. For getting all your srms to one place without using artemis (which I assume you aren't because it's too big to fit on the JIIC), you need to essentially push your launchers right into the backs of mechs, like double digit meter range. if you want to hop in the mumble I can help you make a build for it.

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>>147155909
roomates exist buddy, among other things depending on the sitch

besides ps4's release is next week, and pc's relaunch is I believe the following week, and it is cross plat as the releases go on

>>147156070
You want to shit all over anyone not paying attention to you really, then fuck off and do it again, rinse and repeat.

When they start paying attention to you, you probably want to run away and hope your team starts shooting at them so they have bigger problems to deal with. This is the basis of light harrassment, forcing an enemy to pay attention to you to his detriment.

Of course if you're running the power jenner with SRMs you are capable of outright assassinating a lot. It's a ton of firepower, but you still have to pick your battles. Just always remember your team.

Avoid fighting other lights unless you have to as well.

>>147156367
Ah yeah that was the second build I tried, I think I lowered it to a XL 280 and put on the 6 srm6 but I overheated in like 3 volleys. My first one was 4srm4 and 2srm2 wit the XL 300. Appreciate the offer but the last time I installed mumble it fucked with my sound card somehow. Essentially I just need to aim better and shoot from closer up. This explains why I do a lot better with the arctic cheetah and the laser weapons.

>>147154484
>so this one time, the stars aligned and the servers worked
>this clearly means I'm superior!

>>147156728
You will overheat, with that build, but the thing is, it's different than most lights. While the oxide will stay in a battle and fight for the entire thing, the jenner IIC with srm 36 is a striker. The goal is to get behind a distracted mech, fire all your srms into a single back torso once or twice, then flee to cool off. It will inflict grievous damage if not outright kill most mechs with two back volleys.

>>147157182
And the oxide is the one you get in the jenner bundle right? Might pick it up to try out or maybe one of the steam bundles since I'm really enjoying the game so far.

>>147155451
>first wave, doing alright
>rekt the enemy, awaiting second wave
>some dumb faggot thought it'll be a good idea to advance with damaged mechs
>see hatepriest in his fresh jager walk out to the gate alone while everyone else is in cover
>get hit by a zillion lasers and ppcs
>enemy pops uav and we get our shit pushed in
>fight them off again, still winning
>oh noes the enemy has long dong!!!
>we have to push out to the gate because we cant camp!!!
>watch as my team funnel themselves into the gate chokepoint
>long dong :^)
>complete reversal of the game as more than half my team dies
Then we all died

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>-20% in one month
What did PGI do now ?

>>147157527
Grabdeals direct from their website for single robots > mastery bundles > steam bundles

Just don't dump too much money in especially as a new player.

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>Faction Play event
>Faction Play right now against Clans
Long Tom was legitimately the worst idea Paul's ever had. I wish they'd fire his short small dicked fat ass.

>>147157850
>nigger spheroids curbstomp clan puggies that dare venture into an attack queue with easy-mode meta mechs
>waste the entire 30 minutes deliberately smack talking the pugs and farming damage all the while
>Act surprised when no more clanners attack and they along with 24 other retards are left sitting in a ghost drop queue

GG piggy. No attendance in your tournaments.

>>147158218
>>nigger spheroids curbstomp clan puggies
You can literally reverse this any time. Pugs on either end get their shit rightfully smacked. But right now even on Pug v Pug matches whoever has Long Dong wins instantly. They cut down the power of long tom when it did random crits, and it was acceptable, wasn't wiping out 6+mechs in one blow anymore, maybe two or three unlucky bastards. Now the fucking thing does like 1,600 damage and wiped 8 mechs in one go as we approached the gate choke point.

>>147157850
long tom against anything heavier than a light will most assuredly rekt it
fucking make it 1 use per match at least, god pgi is so fucking mentally damaged

>>147158771
There was no long dong, and honestly, unless the nigger sphere is running braindead LRM builds, they'll win over the clan pugs.

I still don't understand why clan double heatsinks were nerfed. They get 7% extra cooling compared to IS doubles that get roughly 34% extra capacity, but that clan 7% extra still translates to nearly the same on a hot map thanks to the global -30% cooling rate reduction for high temperatures.

IS can literally bring LASER VOMIT onto a hot map and alpha strike twice, nearly thrice in a row before shutting down while clans are sweating magma after just one.

How do we fix the long tom?

lets make cw great again

>>147160006
Once per game called in by the company commander

Otherwise remove it

Can I talk about Mechcommander here, or do I need to go to /vr/ or somewhere else?

>>147160240
Anything battletech related is game.

>>147160240
You can talk about it here. I doubt there's that many people who've played it though.

>>147160240
A lot of us just replayed mechcommander a couple of weeks ago (or otherwise played it for the first time)

Ask away nigga

>>147160328
You'd be wrong as fuck

GERG IMMIGRATION CRISIS
GREXIT WHEN

>>147160328
The overwhelming majority of people in Kong/here have played Mechcommander.

>>147160472
Rev up those Discord visas, he'll never follow us there!

>buy range upgrade for LPLs
>suddenly not so shit anymore

>>147160304
>>147160328
>>147160367
>>147160506
Fantastic! I remember playing this game on my dad's computer when I was like nine or something, found out recently you can legally download it for free.
By the way I can't run it, is there something I am doing wrong? downloaded ISO version and emulated a disc drive to install it, windows 8.

>>147164146
>windows 8

>>147164427
oh, go back to /g/

>>147164146
Copy all the contents of the disc to a folder

>>147164532
>objectively garbage along with w10 even if you don't count the spyware
>g-go back to /g/!!
whatever makes you feel better, sport

>>147165159
Literally go fuck yourself with a cactus
>>147164632
Ok, copied all the contents of the disk into a folder. Still don't got a working game.
Did I need to copy them somewhere specific?

>>147165159

Yeah because windows 7 is so much better.
Fuck off.
You newfags on /g/ are tech illiterate as fuck.

>>147165495
>Implying I'm not on cracked vista
lmaoing @ w10 babs

>>147165650
>because windows vista is so much better

>>147157819

CW is shit, new robots are shit, rescaling created more problems than it solved.

>>147165330
You're just double clicking the exe in the copied folder, not trying to use the installer, right?

This is how it works for W7.

>>147166241
Yeah... Fuck it, redownloading the game in the zip style

>>147166179
>rescaling created more problems than it solved
Citation needed.

>>147152345
>misses shots
>blames the server

Or you could learn to aim :^)

>>147166398
Lights didn't need blanket nerfs

>>147166391
Can dick around with compatibility modes for 95 I guess, I don't know shit about Windows 8.

>>147166729
Oxide and power jenner definitely needed a bit of nerf and got one.

Panther and Wolfhound definitely did not need a nerf but they weren't really being played before either. Still they need some love.

Locust is a bit stronger, but so what. Cheetah and Raven is the same. Firestarter and Spider is a bit weaker. Other lights don't get played.

>>147167303
Oxide was overquirked, Power Jenner wasn't that bad because it was fragile to begin with, having no proper quirks and being even larger than already easily hittable IS Jenners. You're also talking about two variants total across all of them, none of the others were remotely too powerful and deserved this.

>Wolfhound wasn't being played

Talking to a t5 shitter I guess

There was nothing good about the trend to the rescale being upsizing. The trend should have been downsizing to the level of lights.

>>147166398
Name one problem fixed with the rescale other than the Nova.

The Catapult doesn't count, because the good variants are now undersized dramatically thanks to basing the rescale on the C1/C4/A1 geometry.

60 tonners are about the only other things that got a reasonable change.

is there a tl;dr on what each mech weight class plays like or is supposed to do? Not sure I want to be a super squishy light but some of these mediums seem to move pretty slow so I'm confused why you'd pick them over a heavy

>>147167590
Are you fucking with me? 75% of lights before the rescaling patch were oxides in every tier. Where are all these wolfhounds?

>>147168083
Lights: speed is life, please don't shoot me because I will die if you actually hit me

Mediums: speed is a pretty cool guy but I want to take one and a half hits before I die

Heavies: I do everything I want to

Assaults: I really wish I had slightly more firepower than heavies at the cost of speed which also paradoxically makes me less survivable even though I mount more armor

Honestly there's little reason to pick anything over a heavy, objectively speaking. But mechs all play differently and the fun of the game is finding the playstyle you like and the mech that accomplishes that the best.

>>147168123
They were there raping Oxides 1v1 because Oxides were shit for fighting other lights and the Wolfhound was one of the best lights at fighting them

By the way, the rescale buffed the Oxide and Power Jenner's ability to fight other lights thanks to increasing the size of their hitboxes and thus making SRMs easier to use against them

>>147168123
Wolfhound was one of the top choices for lights, it wasn't an Oxide or Jenner IIC but it was tied for being the next best choice and was the laser boat light of choice period

Arctic Cheetah hasn't been relevant for anything but ECM for fucking ages because its arms and legs fall off when anything sneezes at it due to no structure quirks lmao

>>147168462
Please post a single screenshot of all these wolfhounds raping oxides. I don't play a lot but still I'd like to see it.

>>147168296
Thanks
Right now I'm just looking for something that looks cool and has ballistics on it. Not sure how good these ac/20 things are compared to lasers or missiles but the hunchback is definitely piquing my interest

>>147168662
Oxides have always lost to laser boat lights. Short duration lasers applied to their big fat center torso destroys Jenners.

The benefit of dealing far more damage to heavier targets is why people bring Oxides and Power Jenners though. This won't change with the rescale either, even if everyone is memeing with the Locust right now. At best the Locust 1V will replace the Spider 5K, but even that's up for debate because the 5K's machineguns were part of the allure of it and it's still just as capable of fast poking with LPL.

I don't take screenshots very often, sorry.

>>147169108
Hunchback is a solid mech and doesn't require an XL engine which is a big benefit. It's pretty cool in that you can get a variant for each major weapon type, more or less. The 4P boats medium lasers, the 4SP is a 2ASRM6 brawler, the 4J is a 2LRM10 LRM boat, the 4G is an AC20 with legs, the 4H for AC10, and the Grid Iron is best for Gauss or 2AC5. Wouldn't recommend the Grid Iron anymore though. It used to have better quirks, it's not nearly as good now.

If you like ballistics you'll probably want to look higher though. Ballistics weigh a lot so the true ballistic boating mechs are heavies and up, largely. AC20s aren't used very often anymore due to low projectile speed, high heat penalty when firing more than one (which wrecked viability of formerly-great 2AC20 mechs like the Jagermech), and being tough to fit due to the amount of slots they take up. It's really more about AC5 boating as ballistics go. AC10s are okay weapons when they're quirked, the Rifleman is good at those. Clan UAC10s are amazing, but only a handful of mechs can make proper use of them at all (Hunchback IIC being one such mech).

>>147169892
>Hunchback IIC
yeah that's exactly the one I was looking at
the two big fucking cannons on the shoulders really appeal to me
Thanks for the thorough explanation. By "quirks" I'm assuming those are the skills you unlock per mech. I don't really like the look of the rifleman unfortunately. I think I'll save up for the hunchback iic

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>wake up
>new berserk anime is absolute garbage
Millepensee should have just stuck with making more Teekyuu. Fuck this gay earth

>>147171040
Those are skills

Quirks are innate attributes mechs come with, you can find them in the mech info tab, things like +20% ballistic cooldown or +7 CT structure etc etc

>>147169892
ac/20s are still used alot on certain mechs. they may shoot slow but at their range it's fine, still hit like a truck.

What IS mechs for FP right now? Black knights, Warhammers, Thunderbolts, ...?

>>147171040
hunchback IICs are probably some of the best mediums to boat intermediate ballistics on. but they aren't super good at close range. Most are also one dimensional, and only have one role.

>>147171625
They aren't really though, the better the people the less you'll see them

You can do okay with them but they won't be used in any comp match anytime soon, they have no true advantages

>>147171746
Catapult K2 and Jester are amazing choices now and definitely shit on Thunderbolts, but BKs and Warhammers are excellent still.

>>147171769
hey I'm just happy to hear they're viable at some level of play since they look cool to me

>>147171468
thanks for the blog entry should i rate and subscribe?

>>147169892
so you'd recommend on clan uac10s over clan uac20s? for the hunchbank iic i mean

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YOU HEARD IT HERE FIRST FOLKS

>>147177906
go away dudebutt

>>147177906
This is fucking gerg
Why do you people keep making this thread a high school drama

What mech have you mastered/working on mastering?
Going for Urbanmech as my first mastery, got two of the three chassis basic tiers filled

>>147134603

Looks pretty amazing my man.

>>147179719
Urbanmech is a strange first choice but you do you.

Most of the people here have been playing for years and have between 30-80 mechs. A few who play a lot like Harabec and Shaix have surpassed 100+

>>147181935
>Urbanmech is a strange first choice
not him but it's cute

>>147142559

Joining the tournament was a mistake. But who could have comprehended it would be this big an island of shit?

30% of the tournament is now forfeit games just from the teams who quit completely. This doesn't include stuff like Kong losing games due to not getting 8 men on the field but attending regardless.

Thirty percent of the games where someone will be total no-shows, not even including games that are simply insufficient numbers of players.

PGI, of course won't note those as being unplayed match wins/losses, but given Kong's record on /gerg/, I'd at least say one in three matches won't actually involve people playing each other, if not more.

>>147159028

So when the Night Gyr comes along, can we have black on black (NGR vs BK) violence?

>>147183906
pseudo science is fun

>my anecdotal findings are truth and my insight is so amazing!

>>147179719

Urbies are strange little things, but you can't toss them into the shitmech pile because they've at least got some decent-if-not-godly build options. It's the Spider's midget brother.

>>147184098
ur tryin a bit too hard m8
should go back to /b/

>>147184134

What, you're telling me that if we know 30% of the games are forfeited out already, another 3% is anecdotal science given observing common issues with being unable to field a full team?

That isn't stretching things much. Saying half the games in the tournament never get played would be.

>>147184346

>/gerg/ isn't full of /pol/tards

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Uh oh somebody got their second planet.

>>147185091
KEEP

>>147185091
>literally nigger sphere ghost dropping for most of the time against absent smoke jags

That's just sad, m8.

>>147181935
>>147184315
Yeah, I have been finding that the Urban's true stronk is with its 360° torso turning.
To be able to run foreward and shoot backward is real handy with dealing with sanic-style light mechs

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Well I think I found the mech I'm going to focus on. The Jenner is cool but I get btfo if I'm not careful and the hunchback seems really weak against lights who rush you down. Bought a GRF-3M and holy crap flamers are fun. I keep saving my teammates by overheating the enemy and just slamming their cockpit with missiles. Also feels really tanky with maxed armor and the shoulder shields. Game got a lot more fun now that I don't die from being sneezed on and still have some mobility.

>>147178662
Why do you post the answer before the question?

>>147185791
With the event going its not ghost dropping, you also cant ghost drop on defense.

After Urban mastery, what mech should I look into?
Kinda want to missle boat

>>147192397
Trebuckets are good cheap missile boats.

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>>147192397
Catapults if you want mostly "pure" missile boating.

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>>147194567

Anybody know some good victor builds? I have all 3 of the variants you can buy so any of them are an option.

So how useful is premium? Considering buying a bundle and they come with premium

>>147198787
Premium increases your cbill and xp earnings by 50%. It also gives you a few extra options in private matches.

>>147196182
>>147196182
http://metamechs.com/mwo-guides/is-master-guides/victor/

This information is probably very out of date, but should still help you build it out.

>>147196182
I wouldn't play one, but here you go.

http://mwo.smurfy-net.de/mechlab#i=88&l=20273be9500a054008d54a21d00ad4f1c694cd23
http://mwo.smurfy-net.de/mechlab#i=89&l=69ed44eae926c8891a5896f11ef06e2a9640557b
http://mwo.smurfy-net.de/mechlab#i=90&l=ed913760ea7ee706411eae279fca7b54c9f6cc92

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who is your mechfu, /gerg/?

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>>147204659
Summoner

>>147204659
Hunchback

>>147204659

MaulerPGI ruined it.

>>147208464
>implying mx90 isn't rock solid assault

Do you lovely folk know some place I could get some Battletech/Mechwarrior merch? I remember playing MW2 as a real little kid (was the first game I ever played) and would love to have some stuff for nostalgia's sake

>>147208720
What do you mean by merch?

>It is a "BoogeyMan sounds like a depressed self hating fuck "episode

>>147208882
he mean merchandise like toys or toy shirts

>>147204659
I love me a Bruin

Uziel and Blood Asps as contenders, plus the classics of course

>>147208720
The battletech general will probably be able to help you find whatever it is you're looking for if it's battletech related.
>>>/tg/48057110

>>147209108
>>147208882
Yeah, was looking for shirts or posters or patches or anything really, just wanted to be able to look around

>>147209274
Cheers!

polite sage

>>147208720
Go to myabandonware website and you can get all the abandon mech games there. Or theirs amazon, or ebay.

>>147209703
Oh wow, this is very cool
They have 1-4 and all the expansions!! This is awesome, thanks anon

The booklet that came with 4 is one of my most treasured possessions, such a cool little thing

>>147210670
Welcome good sir!

Which mech as the most dakka?
all these sissy lasers need to be taught a lesson in ballistics 101

>>147211897
Direwolf carries the most usable dakka.

>>147211897
>tfw you'll never have your sissy laser barrels put in reflective chastity cages
>tfw you'll never be forced to take the big ballistic cock

>>147211972
Thats one thing that would be awesome if they made it so you could but on Reflective Armor, or the Ballistic armor. Would just be nice if they introduced new weapons to the games and jump ahead in the years as well.

>>147211897
A direwolf can do a uac20/uac10x2/uac5x2 build. Kodiak can do uac10x4. Mauler can do ac5x5.

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>>147204659
Cute fox!

>>147212335
>ac20/uac10x2/uac5x2
Geez really?
I was considering getting a mal-mx90 for the uac5x5 build which looked fun as fuck but this is tempting now

>Faction Play
How do you fix it lads?

>>147212335
http://mwo.smurfy-net.de/mechlab#i=171&l=37a1c320067fe2a063575e7f8d58c86c5f292a2e

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>>147213343

>>147213049
It can do 4uac5 or 5ac5. 5uac5s take too many crits.

>>147213343
2 uac20s have huge spooky heats you'd rather avoid.

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>>147212838
>it's a shitty kitty titty post

>>147213861
>It can do 4uac5 or 5ac5. 5uac5s take too many crits.
I don't understand what you mean

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>>147204659
hunchback iic ofc

>>147213993
The mauler mx90, it can run 4 uac 5s. Or 5 ac5s. It can't run 5 uac 5s because they take too much space in the side torsos.

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>>147204659

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>>147213948
>its a me bashing post

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>>147204659

>>147214217
Guess that explains why some of these guides aren't making sense and I can't recreate them, they're outdated.
What engine should I run in an double uac10 build for the hunchback iic? The outdated guide says 255 but I can't fit that in weight

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>>147214310
>It's a kit bashing post
you deserve every bit of it desu

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what kinda raven u want senpai?

>>147214609
Don't post that gif it arouses Kit

>>147214893
>not wanting to arouse kit

imagine the smell of her 6-day old panties as they get soaked with today's third round of gluey girlcum

>>147215140
degenerate

>>147215140
Why would you post this

>>147213861
2 LBX 20 with 2 LBX 10 offers better DPS with little to no ghost heat.

>get narc'd on polar highlands
>literally no cover exists that will stop the missiles
>every part of me except RL, RT and CT eviscerated by missiles
>raven runs up and puts a laser in my reamaining leg and I die
I fucking hate LRMs so much. They are the epitome of antifun. I have literally seen no mechanic in any other game that encourages you to be so passive. If you're not a light mech that can just sneak in and fuck the boats from behind your whole match is played under incredibly passive because otherwise you will get pelted by missiles.

>>147215140
>You will never rip off kit's sweaty moist month old panties and plunge into her poorly-shaved-two-months-ago pussay

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>>147216447

I remember when i actually used to play and would get like 1600 damage purley in missiles in my Stalker 3F.

>>147214507
Are you perhaps trying to put in a standard engine? Because that definitely is the wrong one.

>>147217326
I'll take a screenshot after this match
pretty sure I was trying to put in the xl engine

>>147217326
The only way I can fit an xl 255 on here is if I run with 1 heatsink and 400 ammo
is that supposed to be it?

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>>147204659

>>147218759
R A R E D A S H I N G P O S T

>>147218759

Why not just have a fuck off massive flag on your post that says

D A S H I N G

>>147217267
How is that fair? I just don't understand. It's so fucking bullshit and antifun.

>>147218313
http://mwo.smurfy-net.de/mechlab#i=367&l=1a8edf399104a8147d783853b122c2d500a0ad07

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>>147218992
>>147219000

is the locust supposed to be blatantly overpowered? It feels like it's immortal and does a shitton of damage

>>147219396
Go play one and see how you feel then.

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>>147219396
>I have shit aim and situational awareness so its OP!

>>147219743
>chasing one for 3 minutes straight
>shooting 5 medium lasers dead into it
>it's still full armor
yeah okay

>>147219971
how bad can you be?

>>147220082
not my fault they can go 88mph and reach the lag barrier

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>>147219743
I fear a good locust player. They fly across the map like a bat out of hell deal heavy damage and zip away before you register what's happening and then disappear behind cover and have radar deprivation.
>>147219971
You suck at aiming. If you hit side torsos they have paper armor and the thing crumples instantly because you'll never not be running XL engines on a Locust.

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>>147220148
>mph

>>147220148
we can kill them no problem, pebcak

>>147220261
He was doing a back to the future reference. but yeah he's pretty shit

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I forgot playing this game outside of a strictly enforced 8v8 no fun allowed meme tournament is actually somewhat fun

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FRUMPY DUMPY KIT IS IN LOVE WITH MASTER GRUMPY GREGGULES GRUMPY DUMPIES SHE GIVES GREGGULES THE TENDIES AND TAKES CARE OF THE DUMPY TENDIES WITH HER MOUTH AS BEST AS SHE CAN. FRUMPY DUMPY KIT IS IN LOVE WITH THE GRUMP DUMPIES AND SHE IS BEING VERY HAPPY BEING FOREVER ENTRAPTURED TIED UP IN THE GRUMPED DUMPY GREGGULES DUMPY HOME

FRUMPY DUMPY KIT TIED UP SALACIOUSLY TAKING CARE OF GRUMPY GREGGULES GRUMPY DUMPYS RELIGIOUSLY BUT SHE IS NOT UPSET SHE LIKES HIS GRUMPY DUMPEYS THE KITTY KAT PLAYS IN THE TIED UP FOREVERMORE FRUMPY DUMPY KIT

THE GRUMPY GREGGULES ROAR SUMMONS THE FRUMPY DUMPY KIT EVERY NIGHT TO CLEAN UP THE RAVAGING OF THE DAYS TENDIES FRUMPY DUMPY KIT BOUNDS EXCITINGLY TOWARDS THE GRUMPY GREGGULES AND TRIES HER BEST TO MAKE THE GRUMPY GREGGULES CLEAN FROM HIS GRUMPY DUMPES AFTER THE CLEANING FRUMPY DUMPY KIT REWARDS THE GRUMPY GREGGULES WITH MORE TENDIES, EXCITED TO TAKE CARE OF THE GRUMPY DUMPY THAT THE TENDIES MAKE BECAUSE FRUMPY DUMPY KIT LOVES THE GRUMPY DUMPY AND LIKES BEING TIED UP FOREVER SERVING THE GRUMPY GREGGULES IN HIS GRUMPY DUMPY HOME

FRUMPY DUMPY KIT LOVES HER GREGACIOUS GREG FOREVERMORE WRAPPED UP TIED DOWN ENTANGLEMENT RIGHT ONCE WAYS DOWN IN THE LOVELY DUMPY HOME OFR THE LORD DUMPY GREGGULES
FRUMPY DUMPY IS NOT UPSET SHE WISHES FOR MORE OF THE GRUMPY DUMPED FROM MASTER LORD DUMPY GREGGULES FRUMPY DUMPY KIT GOES OVER THE MOON FOREVERMORE TIED UP NEVER ALLOWED TO CUM FRUMPY DUMPY KIT

>>147219334
thanks f a m

>>147221220
50 shades of Greg, a NY times bestseller.

*activates page 10 jump jets*

>>147216447

>it's another "AMS is so useless even though it kills NARC" episode

That and getting NARC + LRMs on most QP maps is about the same odds as winning the lottery. Or being struck by lightning, depending on which side got them.

I used to wonder why my AMS ammo would drop randomly without people shooting at me until it turned out to be a Raven trying to hit me at range with NARC as my AMS 360 no-nope'd him again and again.

Nobody uses AMS because it's so "situational", then they bitch because there's no AMS net just fucking their LRMs up in the cases where it'd matter. Makes you wonder what it'd be like if LRMs had actually been decent.

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"You're interesting in a bad way, like Connor" - Greg to Kit

>>147240220
>greg criticizing anyone
that retarded boy needs to not throw stones when he lives in a glass house

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>>147240220
>"of course i am abusive, i'm a dom" - gregga

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>>147241503
DELETE THIS

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hihEhsdwiIk

>>147250670
New player here, just bought my first few mechs. Should I care about that faction stuff at all or am I not missing anything in quickplay

>>147252648

You're not missing much. I'd just do a few scouting missions for the freebie premium time and get back to QP.

>>147252648
The only thing you're missing is frustration and repeated anal cavity invasion sugar coated with some minor goodies.

CW/ FW is literally hell if you're not good, then it's elevated to "frustration and repeated anal cavity invasions the latter of which you won't take note of so easily because you've become so loose."

>>147253247
O-Oh

>>147252648

No. CW is the devil, and completely worthless now that it's so much harder to farm free shit in it.

Avoid.

>>147252648
To be clear. It will take a decent player about 3 hours to finish all the scouting rewards from the event going on right now. Without the event going I wouldn't bother.

I probably wouldn't recommend doing it solo either, but getting a 4 man for scouting drops is pretty easy.

>>147255508
CW isn't the devil, its one of the best ways to earn money in the game atm. Plus if you join a unit that has control of a planet, thats free sheckles. Sure its frustrating over the wait, but its better then getting shit plexus, or polar lrm lands. constantly in QP

As an assault mech why the fuck can I just take the 60ish armor on my useless arm and put it on my CT? EVERYTHING HITS MY CT, I could have no armor anywhere else and people would kill me with my CT every god damn time. I fucking hate this.

>>147258430
are you in a king crab or something?

>>147258430
Have you considered not standing still and twisting your torso sometimes or is everyone just shooting double gauss at you?

>>147258560
Highlander, but even when I torso twist or arm shield shit still seems to hit my god damn CT.
>>147258619
There are ballistics, but still I just seem to get fucked.

>>147258726
don't know what to tell you then
are you just walking out into the open or getting caught off guard by lights?

>>147258726
Some of the bigger manbots have a weakness in that their head is above their shoulders and can be hit from any angle and counts as CT and you can do almost nothing about it.

Whatever you do, don't stand still and try to use uneven terrain to your advantage.

>>147259016
Lights are the issue sometimes, but that's not really it. I only go into the open if it seems to be a team push, but a lot of the time it seems like the enemy team sees my whole team and just blasts away at me. Like I guess it makes sense because I am big so I have big guns, but it's still frustrating. Like I have all this armor and shit, but even then when like 3 or 4 people on the enemy team focus me because I am big it doesn't mean much.

>>147259427
I personally lag behind the heavies on purpose when I play assault or else the same thing happens to me. If your team is pushing up then yeah you should usually follow them but if you've got a good view of the battlefield and a nice cozy hill/building for cover I'd stick around there for a bit and act as big dick fire support. Honestly assaults aren't very good for the reason you mentioned. It's much easier to play heavy and put some heavy armaments on it.

>>147259427
>when like 3 or 4 people on the enemy team focus me

If 2 or more enemies are shooting you at the same time at any point you have made a positioning mistake, which are sometimes unavoidable but mostly they are.

Your goal as is to bully mechs 1 on 1. Preferably 2 on 1 or 3 on 1. Don't fight fair.

Don't rush around corners if you don't know what's there. Don't peek by yourself if you know they have a firing line set up. Etc.

>>147238247
People are just whiny little bitches.

>>147258726
Have you looked at the PDF to see what your hit boxes are at?

Can you sell mechs?
I want to buy the assault steam pack but I don't think I'll be using the crab 000B

>>147266145
DO NOT BUY STEAM PACKS.

>>147266432
why not
I know you guys told me to go to the website but I can't find any bundles on there only single mech purchases
and the steam bundle seems like it has good value at 40% off for summer sale

>>147266581
>I can't find any bundles on there only single mech purchases
What?

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>>147267248
I meant I can't find anything I want to buy on the website store
this
this is what i see
I don't care about any of these mechs
meanwhile the steam bundles give premium and mc/cbills

Whatcha guys think? http://mwo.smurfy-net.de/mechlab#i=145&l=cd30c83662566a95f83a52afcea94cc0e849fe6e

>wow free X and Y as a grand prize, I can grind this
>a handful of matches later
>fuck this I give up
Every Antifun Wars event. I think I had enough when I was in queue for 20 minutes for a conflict between two moderately populated factions, and a minute into the game the enemies got enough scouting points for Uncle Tom and we got long donged after I'd been waiting for the match for twenty goddamn minutes.

Should I sell the 360 retardition module I did get before I called it quits, or spend the GXP to unlock it, is it any good for any builds?

>>147266145
Yes, you can sell mechs and equipment in the inventory screen. But the mechs you get are heroes so you shouldn't ever sell them.

>>147268542
yeah in the end I decided on keeping it and putting some pulse lasers on it

>>147268513
360 is useful for streakboats so you can keep locks even on lights that try to run circles around.

>>147267449
Literally everything you just took a picture of gives premium time, and no less than 4 mechs.
Not only that there's an entire page of mastery bundles that gives prem time, cbills, AND a hero mech.

>>147269604
Wow only 80 dollars!

>>147269819
>$80
None of the master bundles go above $41, the most expensive being the Atlas bundle.
The only downside is that there isn't any Clan Mastery Bundles yet.

>>147270095
Those are the in game bundles though
the website has 80 dollar bundles and I don't want any of them
don't worry dev, you still get a cut from steam sales

>>147268636
Well, first you have to actually hold your reticle on a zigzagging locust to get the lock before that even comes to play.

>>147270217
Not only that an 80 dollar pack would have net you 12 mechs, 8 possible mechbays if you sold the ones you didn't want, and 60 days of premium time. And that's for $80, vs only 8 mechs if you bought every single Steam pack for one HUNDRED eighty dollars.
lol dude, you can make fun of me all you want, I was just trying to help you not put your money in a blender. The Mastery Bundles are available from their website off the Gift Store, and are an infinitely better value than what you just blew it on.

>>147270467
>can't use the easiest weapon in the game

Maybe a point and click adventure game is more your speed. I hear Monkey Island is pretty good.

>>147270546
>why aren't you buying these mechs you don't want!!
calm down dev
I know it's upsetting you failed to drive people towards your website but you're still getting a % of what I gave to gabe

>>147270727
I play on a toaster and my fps is really bad

>>147270546
nice try russ

>>147271005
I feel your pain f.a.m but cpus and graphics cards are pretty cheap these days

>>147271005
you are PGI's target audience

but if you can't even keep streak lock then fuck off

>>147270765
Lol, sorry I didn't realize it was "bump the thread with shitposts" hour.
If you can't fit enough LPL and crit machine guns in your King Crab be sure to put in an XL.

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>>147271231
arigatou for the tip

>huelander with lrms and a single machinegun in the gun arm
why

>>147271398
Bro never buy the steam packs. This is common knowledge. Rule 1: do not feed the pig. You only get two mechs and even still they're both different types of mechs. You can't even elite them. It's a really shitty grabdeal compared to almost all their other ones. The only worst grabdeal were the 500 dollar gold mechs.

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you people still playing this pathetic disgusting garbage trainwreck of a game?
are you for real?
jesus christ.

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>>147273218
Steam medium pack is actually a really good deal considering the only other way to get a cbill boosted stormcrap is by 210 buckarooos.

You can elite them but you would need 4 more mech to buy. Your text makes it sound like it's impossible altogether which is blatantly false.

Mastery packs are mostly bad unless you absolutely hate any form of grind plus you get one of the actually good hero mechs, which are always subject to quirk executions. Stormcraps literally cannot ever be bad.

>>147273868
Did you not even read rule 1? DO NOT FEED THE PIG. I'm not the poster you were arguing with earlier, I'm saying don't feed the pig at all. If you really fucking stupid and you want to buy something for this game I can't stop you, but I want to tell you how fucking dumb it is that you're going to.

>>147273868
I just started playing a while ago and the steam packs are 40%
plus they also come with MC and some cbills so I bought the light and assault ones
Though my favorite mechs thus far are the hunchback iic and GRF-3M
probably going to buy the mastery bundle for the Griffin

I'm the guy who started last week and wanted to say thanks for whoever it was that recommended the timber wolf. Thanks for all the help.

Have been having tons of fun blowing enemies up.

>>147274047
>it's really dumb that people spend their money in ways I do not approve
I guess every general has resident aspies, even the slower ones

>>147274289
>I'm a big fat faggot and no one can stop me
People are trying to help you save your hard earned money, anon.

>>147274386
>I like to walk up to people, call them faggots and tell them they're being stupid

I wonder how much you get your ass kicked in real life. Is it weekly or daily?

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>>147274623
This is several levels of retardation and irony I just can't wrap my head around.

I was feeling really clever playing small pulse meme executioner, until realized shitcrow and nova can do basically the same build and they're mediums.

>>147276081
Nova really only does 10spl, you can do more but it becomes pretty toasty. Stormcrow does 12. Executioner can do 13.

What are some good loadouts for an Urbanmech?

>>147276389
Machineguns

>>147276321
13spl exe is actually pretty shitty since there will be leftover tonnage, I just bring an erppc or lpl or erll as the 13th gun.

I was using 2erppc 7spl before and shittily poptarting on maps where I can't get in range, but I can't really say if it was better or not. I think I should try 2erppc 11 normal smalls or something next.

>>147276389
2 LPL is the go to build.

>>147276389
something like this
http://mwo.smurfy-net.de/mechlab#i=276&l=06040001424493ec1e2a993ba24cc8695c61c260

>>147208464
I don't see why they nerfed the Mauler when the fucking Kodiak is way more OP. Despite the nerf though:
https://youtu.be/uZKXbGuy_OE

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>>147273334
>he isn't playing megamek with kong n friends

>>147276990
>I don't see why they nerfed the Mauler
Probably because you could put an AC25 with AC5 range, speed and cycle rate on it. Plus kwerks. The Kodiak is very likely on borrowed time which ends when the cbill release begins, though.

>be large spurdo
>boat 4xUAC10
>rek everything in sight

Clan UAC10 nerf when?

>>147278131
>superior clan firing patterns
lol just torso twist and walk away

>>147278734
LAWL JUST B YOU ARE SELF BRAAAAAAH

>>147278131
Uac10's dont need a nerf, its easy to kill a kodiak, hell 2 alphas of my BK usually kills it.

>>147280004
They're just the only clan AC that doesn't need a BUFF.
>unquirked ac2 gonna ac2 even if it can shoot twice
>ac5 the amazing Do Nothing Man, it does nothing unless you have 3 or more
>ac20, who ordered the sauna with a machinegun attached to it
>how do you want your single shot autocannons famalam
>just spread my damage up
>say no more my man

Manly dakka
http://mwo.smurfy-net.de/mechlab#i=261&l=8846d75b27d2454a114600c24f269f9709a7963a

>>147274047
Thanks for the (You), I really wasn't expecting my vibe to go off today during lunch but it was definitely a pleasant surprise. In any case, I think you are confusing me with someone else.

Also should I bring kaelusposting back or is that a stale meme?