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"Don't let the general die, for fucks sake" Edition

previous thread >>146902867

>Character Planner
https://www.mugenmonkey.com/

>KING'S FIELD
http://pastebin.com/G8zw0sc3 (embed)

>DEMON'S SOULS
http://pastebin.com/RjpF5s7a (embed)

>DARK SOULS
http://pastebin.com/eNY3su63 (embed)

>DARK SOULS 2
http://pastebin.com/CAx8Yc8v (embed)

>BLOODBORNE
http://pastebin.com/WdLBWD8n (embed)

>DARK SOULS 3
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1u8Mak1goSv4g73g16XsWV4sJelDQUatWkP2kcO6GVAA/pub
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First for fuck lucy
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>those silver knight cosplay guys at pontiff sl99
Holy shit this is the keks
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Get off it, dude.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5T198rMCG18
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>>146975969
With Miyazaki not being involved with Dark Souls 3's DLC, what are the chances they will fuck it up? What are the chances the team working on it know how to make it as good as past DLC's?
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so uh, is it possible to uncensor your name with CE in DS3 like it was in DS2?
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dont tlel me what to do
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>>146979259
They'll fuck it up massively.
Dark Souls content is literally about Miyazaki's nightmares, not the dev's.
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>>146979259
>what are the chances they will fuck it up?
they fuck up if they do it like the first two DLC's of DS2: no NPC's. good bosses, good invaders, no story. Frostland DLC did that shit pretty good
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>>146979421
I feel bad for eveyrone waitong for DS3'd DLC to reedem the game if they already not enjoy it, if that's the case. Maybe if they somehow implemented the DLC in a way to let you sequence brake?

>>146979452
Shulva was 10/10 pevel design tho.
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>>146975969
Who /SoTFS/ here on PC?
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Just how bad are the PC versions of the Dark Souls games un-modded?

I don't have a console and am thinking about picking it up on steam but I've heard mixed things about the ports. I do have a controller, which I hear is necessary to play Dark Souls.
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From a objective point of view, people hated DS2 more for the graphic downgrade than anything else?

I almost feel guilty for liking this game more than DS1, I'm liking Drangleic and it's lore a whole lot more.
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>>146981396
Yeh buddy, still fun even after 550+ hours of vanilla
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>>146981901
>tfw my friend and I duped cracked red/blue eye orbs so now we go invading all the time
>tfw haven't even seen the dlcs after 100 hours of gameplay
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>>146981736
Nah, I played Dark Souls 2 te day I found out there was a Dark Souls 2 and with no expectations. Still was disappointed.

Anither problem I think people have is that they come from Dark Souls 1 wothout knowing you gotta level up ADP to make your rolls work and think the game's i-frames are fucked.

Another problem with the priginal Dark Souls 2 was that you started out with one estus and no 100% phys shield. Combine that with low adap and the first hours of the game were just annoyingly bad.

Most of that was fixed in SOtFs. Don't frel bad about liking DS2, I used to like it more than BB. Just let these games grow on you.
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>>146981727

Unmodded PC DaS = Xbox DaS

If you mod it you can make it behave like a PC game should.

DaS2 and DaS3 work ok out of the box, but mods will improve the experience.
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>>146982165
>If you mod it you can make it behave like a PC game should.
What is it lacking that I would need?
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>>146982240
frame unlocking/limiting and rendering options mostly.

Don't even try to play without a controller btw.
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>>146982240

Proper keyboard and mouse support, good antialiasing, resolutions higher than 1280x720 (I don't think it even renders at that res), higher fps than sub 30.
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>>146982240
And a mod to connect to other people in order to enjoy multiplayer.
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Is there a collection of series lore somewhere on the net? Compiled in a coherent manner, not a wiki. I'm starting to think DS2 lore is more appealing than DS1/3.
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>>146982543
>>146982559
>>146982645

Would DS fix take care of all this?
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>>146982743
Yes. But you need DSCM to play online.
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Alright, I'm burnt out on souls for now. What do?
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>>146982913
Play Bloodborne.
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>>146982165
Modding for DaS2 is dead, because it doesn't work for SotFS.

>>146982743
DSfix is bare minimum, browse Nexusmods or read the sticky for other good texture fixes. If you want to take advantage of the multiplayer, DSCM and PvP Watchdog.
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>>146982743

There are actually quite a few mods now that are useful.

>DSfix
Mandatory, unlocks higher resolutions and framerates and some graphics options
>DSMfix
Fixes the KBM controls
>pvpwatchdog
Fixes the namecrash bug
>DSCM
Fixes the Steam matchmaking
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/dsg/ could you reccomend me a build for my final slot
So far i got:
>Quality/Faith
>Int
>Strenght
>Dex
>Pyro/Dark
>Dex/Faith
>Strenght/Faith
>Hollow/Quality
>Faith
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>>146983067
SL1
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This game and general are dead, and it's well deserved.

PvP is shit. FROM is shit and doesn't listen to the community. Good riddance.
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Wanted to share this build I've been working on intended for bad players to have an easier time getting carried by summons.

https://www.mugenmonkey.com/darksouls3/50021
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>>146979259
Miyazaki is a meme. When you compare post DkS1 games to DkS1 it's fairly obvious that DkS1 was luck.
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>>146983164
Why would you condone this
Also you forgot your Dark Sword and Grass Crest Shield
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>>146982165
Is there any good mod for 3 besides the agression one?
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>>146983164
>18/40
>refined
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>>146979315
I know you can change it, not sure about uncensoring.
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>>146983289
It's best as refined because of it's already sick C/C scaling, but this particular individual just doesn't know what he's doing and is a shitter enabler.
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>tfw invaded
>im alone
>decide to be a nice guy and fight straight without heals and see if he follows
>he doesnt
>he chugs and hides among enemies at first sign of difficulty
>fuck it I cant deal with this shit right now
>summon phantoms
>theyre absolute shit and die to mobs
>when the invader kills the phantom I just chug all my estus and hope he catches my drift
>he does
>we have a legit good fight
>both a hit from dying
>I land a parry
>I fucked up and rolled away
>we circle eachother a while and then he crystals out
the fuck
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>>146983164
Still like my suggestion from the other thread with spells, some parts like Anor Londo SKs, Cathedral Rafters or Archdragon would require said player to stand back too far while waiting for phantoms to clear. With hidden body it's not be an issue.
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>>146983552
>red phantoms can heal in DS3
what the fuck
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>>146983284

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=663922936

There's a DSfix equivalent, but it's still quite buggy.
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>>146983721
That's about the only thing in their favor.
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>>146983280
Because everyone can't literally get good. And some people really want to finish the game. Not everyone has young man reactions and coordination anymore. Some of us have gotten old or suffered injuries and illness since demon souls.

>>146983398
Well not much of a point going sharp. Missing less than 10 AR I believe. Also because as the build levels higher you want to pump str next or possibly luck as well for a quality build.
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>>146982937
He said he's burn out on Souls games.
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>>146983748
I wouldn't know since my computer can't run DS3. But why did they change it? The host is the one at a disadvantage, since he has to deal with the enemies and is going to lose a precious resource if he dies.
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>>146983861
Confirmed. I simply cannot git gud. I'm trying I swear.
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>get past dancer
>no idea what the fuck im doing
>no idea where the fuck im going
>OH SHIT GIANT BLACK RAPE MONSTERS
>WHY THE FUCK DO THESE CATHEDRAL KNIGHTS HAVE INFINITE POISE, RIDICULOUS HEALTH AND NEVER STOP ATTACKING
>OH FUCK RUN RUN RUN
>wait is that the fucking crestfallen dude?
>OH SHIT RUN SOME MORE
>2 estus
>fog wall
>two black rape monsters behind me
>run into boss
>some fucking paedophile raping a baby

this whole fucking thing was mental
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>>146983280
Why dark sword or grass shield? The equipment in the link is actually really good.

>>146983398
If you can do better then let's see it.
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>>146983923
Don't you lose souls if you invade and die?
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>>146983861
>Because everyone can't literally get good
Sorry friend, I don't discriminate. I believe everyone can git gud and if you baby them like this, then it just becomes a self-fulfilling prophecy. You help new or bad players by telling them what they could do better or why X is good and Y isn't, but by giving them a cookie cutter "free wins lol" build and tell them to have other people play the game for them.
That's cynical as hell and I can't support it.
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>>146984076
dude rape haha xD (lol)
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>>146984076
>It's my first playthrough guise, listen to my wacky experiences!
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>>146984176
Souls are easy to get, and you can retrieve them by touching your bloodstain.
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>>146984076

It's so funny to make fun of rape isn't it?
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>>146984228
>>146984350
>>146984395
Spotted the 4chan grumpy grandpas no fun allowed
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>>146984395
spotted the fat chick
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>>146984618
yes, yes, very grumpy, now take your 9gag-tier humor and leave
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>Use UGS on my sl100 build
>win most of the fights
>Use UGS on my sl125 build
>lose most of the fights

The fuck is wrong with me?
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>>146984728
>9gag joking about rape
>4chan not joking about rape

oh dear
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>>146983923
Invader gets half the amount of estus that either he or the host has, I dont recall which. Invasions always STRONGLY prioritize hosts with phantoms. Phantoms summoned with password can be summoned at any level no matter how much higher it is. Overlevelled phantoms suffer a minor descale in damage. They can also heal.
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>>146984206
Anon, some people's bodies and reactions simply aren't as healthy as they used to be. Build was made thinking about those whose age is affecting their performance or who may have experienced injuries or health problems rendering them unable to play properly. It's to still make finishing the game possible.
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>>146984728
Le make me bich
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>>146984101
https://www.mugenmonkey.com/darksouls3/50086
Ey it's ya boi Anon here comin at you live with a brand new Dark Souls 3 beginners' build guide!
Remember to rate, comment, subscribe, follow me on twitter, tumblr and twitch, check me out on pornhub, like my facebook group for more awesome Souls content from yours truly. This has been Anon with another Dark Souls 3 guide, and always remember to praise the sun!
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>>146984803
Oh, ok. It's more common to get ganked in DS3. It's why I play with miracles in DS2, so I can heal if the guy runs away from me to chug 4 estus down.
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>>146984206
You take your youth and health for granted most likely.

As you get older or if you have certain injuries or illness it becomes next to impossible to have the reflexes for certain builds and playstyle.

There are some people who have been waiting years to finish the souls series. Not everyone is as good as they were during their first souls series or possibly better because they were at such a young age during their first entry
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>>146984809
That's a nice thought, but how often do you get paired up with disabled people?
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>>146984991
Every time I tag a red sign at pontiff's
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>>146984938
One more thing; it seems somehow harder to punish estus in DaS3. In DaS2 if you were close enough you could usually even it out with a backstab. But for some reason its fucking impossible in DaS3 and the host will almost always get away with a sip
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>>146984809
>>146984983
You're right, cripples and old fucks don't deserve to have fun. The next from game should just be an interactive move so as to not exclude it's major audience.
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>>146985103
That's because estus heals instantaneously, like in DS1, isn't it? My friend also told me there's no poise and you can roll around like a madman, so I imagine it's easy to get far, heal and be ready to fight when the other guy gets close.
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>>146984803
>invasions have bigger chance to target phantoms

Debunked, what happens is that anyone who gets invaded gets an invasion immunity. You can only remove such with finger, summoning or invading. It's not that they're more likely to, but simply that the pool of possible targets has a higher amount of phantom worlds.
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>decide to watch the Darkwraiths go against the Ghrus in Farron Keep perimeter
>they carve through them like they're made of butter
>notice the Darkwraiths behave weirdly when they're out of view, resettin positions, changing direction they're walking etc.
>try something
>reload, walk out and keep the Darkwraiths just out of sight range
>watch their healthbars
>they get absolutely demolished by the Ghrus
Huh.
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>>146985310
Yes, it's near instant, as is the recovery time after the drinking animation.
In DS1 you could easily run up to someone and bs them while or after they chug, but that's basically impossible unless you were already in position to do so already, but
>backstabbing in ds3
lel and zozzle
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Am I halal /dsg/?
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>>146983707
Yeah it could be good but I've never used rapport. I think I should likely throw a bow or cross bow on there maybe.
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>>146985368
What, they don't become active if you're not close enough?
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>>146985494
How can From fuck something up every time? They had it almost perfect on DS2 with the covenants, but they added soul level. In DS3, they get everything right but the combat is pretty fucked up.
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>>146985681
Miyzaki literally hates pvp.
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>>146985663
No, they did do damage to the Ghrus, but it was absolutely piddling compared to what they did when I was in range and looking directly at them.
Even looking away seems to revert them to a really stripped-down combat AI.
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When an NPC invades you and you die, will they invade again?
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whew... pyromancy is hard as fuck to kill ppl with
After 20 invasion or so I failed a good 15

Then went on my STR guy and did a 10 win streak at pontiffs

Now I am bored again
This game man...
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>>146984861
I'm actually using the fallen knight armor because it is actually really good and efficient. Black Knight shield has vastly superior stability compared to grass shield and it's also 100% block
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>>146985840
Only when you're embered.
>>146985863
Practice free aiming. No one's going to walk into your fireballs.
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>>146985840
If you ember up and go into the area that triggers their invasion, yes.
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I've never played Dark Souls before, I don't know if Bloodborne counts but I only made it to Old Yharnam using Multiplayer to beat the bosses.

I just recorded this shit, you can figure out my skill level at this point.

Any tips or what to expect?
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>>146985963
>No one's going to walk into your fireballs.
:^)
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>>146985963
I miss DaS2 fireballs, where you had a frame advantage if they rolled through your spell and you didn't even need to rely on them for damage because they functioned as setup spells.
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>>146985984
Don't roll so much, fuck. I get that they cost almost nothing but you panicked like crazy and got yourself killed after a pretty minor mistake.
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>>146985259
Well that's why it's possible to make a build in das3 already without having to be an MLG progamer.
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>>146985963
Yeah I do practice it.
That is the hard part I was talking about lol
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>>146985984
If you can't beat bosses by yourself, you're not gud.

And do yourself a favor and play Dark Souls 1 before going into the rest.
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>>146985336
No. I played through the game solo and was almost never invaded. But anytime I summon phantom I'm almost immediately invaded
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>>146985984
Stick really close to him. Hug his butt. Roll when he swings, but roll TOWARDS him. Try to get in a poke or two when he's recovering from his swing, but don't get greedy. Two-hand your weapon, your shield won't do shit against his attacks unless you actually use it to parry(and I'd hazard to guess you probably haven't even touched parrying yet).
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>>146985984
Stop rolling, stop trying to move everywhere. Realize that the CPU's attacks are always going to take precedent over your attacks. Lastly realize that you will not be able to stunlock kill things until you're a higher level and that by mashing any move, including roll, you are only putting yourself in more danger.
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>>146986063
Well of course he's just going to blithely walk into your fireballs when he's got a no-damage cheat on.
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Someone told me the other day I can pseudocheese Dancer pretty early by dumping everything I have in vig until I get the dark hand. Anyone remind me on that? There was something about stunlocking every 3 hits or something. Which attack? Doesn't seem to work very well for me
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>>146975969
What's the best path to take if I want to be a pure faith caster?
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>>146986063
why the hell do you keep attacking if your fireballs do jack shit to him?
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>>146979853
>invincible ghost gangrape backed up by dark bead
>10/10
The aesthetic was just lifted from King's Field.
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>>146986646
Play a different game
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>>146986331
Did you not read what I said? After your first solo invasion you're literally immune to non-NPCs invasions. Only 3 ways this could be removed. If you fingered yourself, invaded or summoned. If you don't trust me, go anywhere in your level range, get invaded once, see how long it takes for another invade, then use the orb and try again.

When you summoned, the game didn't alter your chance to be invaded, it simply flipped an on/off switch.
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>>146985972
Yellowfinger Heysel isn't showing up anymore, is it because I'm already far in the storyline?
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Would it be possible to use CE to give every enemy in the game the Tears of Denial buff?
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Anyone found a way to do both Sirris' and Leonhard's quests on a single NG? This shit is so silly.
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>>146986650
There was this little bit of hope deep inside of me, hoping it was just lagg.
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>>146986887
What do you mean, far in the storyline? As long as you still haven't killed the Abyss Watchers, her invasions should still trigger.
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>>146986887
Go to where she puts her white sign down, see if she's there.
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>>146986887
>getting killed by Heysel
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>>146985984
You're supposed to set the pace of the fight, not the boss. Gundyr is weaker on close quarters, most of his attacks can be dodged by circling him. And time your rolls, holy fuck.
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>>146986991
Yeah, complete Sirris' first, then join fingers.
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>>146987064
Oh, no wonder. I killed the Abyss Watchers already. Thanks for the help.
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is a fight club on?
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>>146987187
>someone made a nude mod for the series with the worst female models in recent history.
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>>146987187
turn around
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>>146986991
If you complete Sirris' questline first, you can then do Leonhard's in like five minutes after. It's Heysel's gesture that's impossible to get in the same playthrough as Sirris' quest.
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>>146987207
I'm planning a way to get all gestures in one NG. I need to summon Heysel for Proper Bow, which requires giving Rosaria a tongue and not killing Edge Watchers.

>>146987065
Ever got hit by her buffed pickaxe? It kills most classes on two hits with base vitality. Then again, the crabs are deadlier than her.
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>>146986920
I don't see why not. They can get affected by buffs like sacred oath
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>>146985984
You're a sorcerer, equip that staff in your off-hand, press the left trigger/L2 and start casting soul arrows, dodge when he makes an attack; prefferably dodge back. Use regular Soul Arrow for Phase 1, Heavy Arrows for 2

Godspeed anon
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>>146987362
Did you already forget manshoulders in DaS2
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>>146987838
That's why I said "series"
I know there was a nude mod released for DS2, which is equally appalling.
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Can I get a gentle nudge in the right direction in Bloodborne?

After I killed the big wolf woman thing, I'm left without any direction and I've been wandering around for hours trying to find somewhere I haven't cleared already.
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>>146987981
Find a door that asks for a password, it's in cathedral ward.
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>>146988186
>das3 tranny.jpg
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>>146975969
>"Don't let the general die, for fucks sake"
What did he mean by this? The last thread is still up even now: >>146947365

>>146987981
Examine the skull behind her them password door.
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>>146988186
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When does dark souls 3 get good?
Hasn't really reeled me in so far, that said I am only at the tree boss.
Played every game in the series so far, even platinumed bloodborne
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>>146987981
Take a mental tally of the dev messages and lorenotes you've read so far.

The Byrgenwerth Spider is hiding a ritual
The door to Byrgenwerth is locked
The watchman of that locked door awaits a password
The password is the sacred adage of the Grand Cathedral
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>>146988308
*then

Also if you are facing out from the room you fought her in, it will be on the right side.
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>>146988404
Tree boss is the best boss in the game
Better just quit now.
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>>146988186
Whore face/10
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>invaded in high wall while at Vordts door on a fresh character
>aight guess i'll BC Albert and fight a good fi-
>its a CCS
>Its Jelly paste
>Run into boss room and activate Vordt fight
Nah fuck you
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>>146988404
Some of the bosses are pretty good, I guess, Abyss Watchers being the first.
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>>146988186
LONDOR
O
N
D
O
R
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>>146988404
Not your game just leave
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>>146988530
>>Its Jelly paste
uwot
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>>146988464
>that moment when it cracks the ground killing all spamming hollows so you face each other 1v1

Hypest moment in game.
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>>146988687
Carthus Rouge
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>>146988752
>that moment in phase 3 when it opens up completely and the rest of it comes out.
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>>146988752
I feel like I was robbed of this feel my first time. I noticed I wasn't dealing any damage and thought "welp I guess I need something special to kill it" then forgot about it until after I beat SoC.
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>>146988464
>tfw perfecting it so that I pop its blisters and get the rest while it's stunned
Before I discovered the others it was such a boring boss, now it's exciting as hell.
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>>146988464
Not sure if you are trying to be sarcastic or not, but that really is my favorite boss in the game.
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>tfw watching my highly depressive friend enjoying Dark Souls 2
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>>146989441
Depressed people tend to enjoy 2 the most.
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Man, Wheel of Fate is so disappointing. It's too short, only hits like 4 or 5 times.
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>>146989595
Fuck off it's a good feeling
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>>146989441
Give him a hug.
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>>146989694
>him
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>>146989825
Londor?
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The Grand Archives Bonfire has no reason to exist.
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>invade in untended graves for over an hour
>not a single 1v1

i can't believe there's actually this amount of shitters that need help with champion gundyr
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>>146990193
Neither does you, but here we are.
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>>146988186
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>>146990423
>fucks up the grammar of a cheeky reply

atta boy
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>>146990481
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pet the fluff
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Post the locations you hate the most:
>DaS: Demon Ruins
>DaS 2: Probably the whole sunken king DLC
>DaS 3: Smouldering Lake
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>>146990193
Bonfires that should ne removed:
Tower on the wall
Foot of the high wall
Cliff underside
Dilapidated bridge
Road of sacrifices
Crucifixon woods
Farron keep
Keep ruins
Keep perimeter
Cathedral of the deep
Demon ruins
Irithyll of the boreal valley
Church of yorshka
Anor londo
Dragon barracks
Dragonslayer
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>>146991034
Is this bait
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>>146991034
bonfires after bosses need to remain but there are some that are extremely unnecessary
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>>146991034
>Tower on the wall
>Dilapidated bridge
>Road of sacrifices

No, those should be left alone.
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>>146991034
>foot of the highwall
Its better to remove settlement since the transport animation only plays once iirc, if you die to dogs there thats a restart for that save
>Demon ruins
How about abandond tomb, not running that gauntlet everytime i die to ODK fucker
>all the farron bonfires except for wolf
nah, ruins i can understand; keep should stay
>Dragonslayer
Archives makes more sense to remove
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>>146990940

Why does armour look so good in DaS1 compared to DaS2 and DaS3?
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>>146990193
I actually thought it was a mimic bonfire or something when I first saw it.
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>>146991403
>mimic bonfire
jesus
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>>146991389
They looked more like metal in 1.
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>>146991976

Goddamn, 2 looks like regurgitated cat food.
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>>146991368
you can always use the gargoyles but the cutscene only plays once
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>>146990193
Neither does lothric castle's 1st bonfire...when I invade there I always get spawned halfway between Lothric castle and Dragon barracks and I can't tell where the host is because those 2 bonfire are too damn close to each other
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>>146991479
I mean I've never really seen a bonfire that close to another bonfire in the series so I figured it was a trap.
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sacred oath should be the rank 1 reward for warriors of sunlight

sunlight straight sword is the rank 2 reward

astora straight sword is now a twinkling weapon with b faith scaling, a when upgraded

lightning spear is found in high wall of lothric

great lightning spear where the normal one currently is

there, i just made ng faith builds not a joke
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Is parry one shotting in duels fun? I see streams like iskys doing it and I'm like, should I be running a straight sword + offhand caestus build? Maybe a spear + offhand caestus build?

Like

Is that fun? Am I missing out?
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>>146992967

parrying in duels is really stupid and bad, in invasions you can just roll away and heal

in duels you are now at 50 percent life vs full

and every player is just going to bait parries as soon as they see the caestus come out
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>>146992967
Winning isn't about fun, it's about winning.
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Does anyone have the screenshot of the message like "Man in short tears" in front of Titchy Gren?
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>>146988373
god that looks disgusting
how did Ds2 age so poorly
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>>146991238
>bonfires after bosses need to remain
Why? Just put them when needed. I liked hiw in dark souls 1 you didn't get binfires after killing bossesbexcept whe killing the main 4.
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Jesus, that is a giant fucking halberd.
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>>146990193

>that bonfire after crystal sage but before chapel

just fucking why

theres literally one section of archers and two dogs between the bonfires
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Post cosplay builds, anons.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A57QYU3zfDQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uq7Xevr0Wxc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VrbTrhAVEC4
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>>146993201
Anyone?
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>>146993538
>two dogs
More like six.
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>>146993538
They had this autistic obsession with having at least 1 bonfire in every area named after that area, and I assume they figured it'd be confusing if the Cleansing Chapel had been called "Cathedral of the Deep" since it's a tiny little church shooting off from the main cathedral and not the main cathedral itself.
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>>146993717
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>>146993537
>giants were Abyss Watchers too
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>get summoned to boss
>host kills it in five seconds
Why'd you even summon me
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>people actually want cancer like dark bead back

ill take magic being complete trash over that any day
>>
If Ds1 is not your favorite of the souls trilogy by a longshot then you have shit taste, there is no debate
>>
Holy shit fuck Smouldering Lake, fuck this fireball throwing niggers, fuck Tsorig and more importantly, fuck the stupid faggot who designed this location
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>>146993201
pls? Anyone ANYONE have this?
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>>146994468
>souls trilogy
What did he mean by this?
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>>146994369
Maybe he wanted you to witness his awesome power?
Or maybe he just wanted to give you free souls?
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>>146992967
All that nigga does is fight low level noobs
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>>146994490
Demon's Souls
Dark Souls
Dark Souls 3
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>>146994393
lol this nigga can't even dodge dark bead

go mash r1 with your straight sword some more ya fucking moron
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Can someone please help me kill Aldrich?
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Bonjour /dsg/
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nigger snekmen with dagger paired with nigger snekgiant with axe is 10x harder than ornstein and smough
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>>146994624
I would, but I recently sold my dreamcast.
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Anyone with a ps4 help me kill Aldrich?
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>>146994624
Use gold pine resin, you scruberoni
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>>146994369
Easier to DPS if some other clown is tanking
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>>146994539
Where's Bloodborne and Demon Souls?
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>>146994725
You can kill the degger snek before aggroing the big snek. The open windows on the right side of the hallway overlook a drop point where you can plunging attack little snek.

You can then go up the ladder, still without aggroing big snek, and plunging attack big snek from above.
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Emerald Herald > Plain Doll > Shrine Handmaiden
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>>146993710
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uxQTGJ-fLXQ
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>that one snakeman whose sole purpose appears to be biting you THROUGH THE FUCKING WALL
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>>146994468

>souls trilogy
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>>146994539
Anon, you forgot Blood Borne
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>>146994468
Das1 has problems with end game design because you can not summon or be invade after clearing a boss.

Meaning once you clear an area it's a dead zone in your world.
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>>146994918
>that one snakeman that's just slacking off against a wall and gets fucked by a rolling stone ball
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>>146994816
>gold pine resin on Aldrich
>not charcoal or any fire sword which he is weak to
lol
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>>146994898
Fuck Plain Doll
Marry Emerald Herald
Kill Shrine Handmaiden
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>>146994847
are you blind?
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>>146994816
Alright
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>>146995000
>not getting him to break the wall for you
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>>146994468
>>146994539
Reminder that Bloodborne is part of the Dark Souls storyline
>>146995078
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>>146994725
I miss watcher and defender.
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>>146994905
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cHhbQSv8h9Q
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>>146994806
Maybe

Pass?
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>>146995069
>wanting a splintered dick

>>146995120
This, if you get him to do te poke attack the wall breakers
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>>146994898
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>>146995175
>you need a doll to get into the Painted World
>you need a doll to get into Irithyll
>the Painted World is closely linked to the Deep
>THE LEVEL UP WAIFU OF BLOODBORNE IS A DOLL
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>>146995556
What was the point of this?
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>>146995629
She's a big dummy
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when does the prisoners chain not give good returns?
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>>146995742
>not give good returns?
The term you're looking for is diminishing returns.
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>>146995316
>implying she's made of wood
She was made for literal sexual intercourse.
>>146995437
List em' then, faggot.
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>>146995812
No she wasn't
>>
I took a month hiatus on DS3 and hadn't gotten farther than Old Demon King and beat Yorhm and Aldritch yesterday. I really wish they hadn't made the lords of cinder such bitches. They were built up so high, why can't they be story related AND daunting?
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>>146994528
Is fighting low level noobs fun?

I just uninstalled dark souls 3 and went back to rocket league and natural selection 2 with some gungeon on the side. Couldn't figure out how to get any more fun out of it, but got 288 hours out of it at least so certainly worth the money. If they don't make some serious balance changes, especially to invasions, I'll probably drop the game for good except for completing DLC content from the season pass.

Sad but true.
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Since no one helped...
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this is the single best pvp setup

there isn't a single thing that counters it effectively

PROVE ME WRONG
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IM DRUNK AF I JUST FUCKED A COLOMBIAN GIRL FROM A CLUB AND I MISS MY CONSOLE
I WANT TO PLAY DARK SOULS REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>146995810
im looking for, at what point does it not become worth wearing based on stats?
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>>146995812
Plain Doll>Fire Keeper>Emerald Herald
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>>146996068
>17 levels above 27 in VIG nets you a whole 45% more HP
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Someone call vaati quick
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>>146996068
>using greatshield with meme rapier

How can people be so shameless?
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>>146995917
>Even the doll, should it please you
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>>146994898
>>146995069
>shrine handmaiden
That's the fucking old jew hag you dubshits.
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Explain to me why you aren't doing low-level invasions, /dsg/.
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>>146996068
>there isn't a single thing that counters it effectively
being level 80
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>>146996202
>Xanthous clothing is the mark of a researcher of lost sorceries, and the oversized crown is emblematic of their work. Such a curious pursuit is surely nothing to be ashamed of.
Heysel is obviously a true Xanthous, given that the Crucifixion Woods and Farron Keep are built on top of Darkroot and have tons of magical items (including from Oolacile, how much more "lost sorceries" can you get?)
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>>146996387
BECAUSE THE GAME'S DEAD ANON I'VE MOVED ON
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>>146996469
It makes sense that she and other Xanthous scholars would be in Farron Keep to study it and its similarities to Oolacile, but Dusk died. Let's not entertain the notion any further.
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>>146996387
cause ds3 sucks
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>>146994986
And they bought this back in 3. Fuck.
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>>146994898
What I never got was, why is the Emerald Herald Irish? Is it just some dumb "hur hur emerald isle emerald herald" shit? I wouldn't put it past them
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>>146996387
1. There's no scraping spear to take advantage of

2. Breaking equipment in this game is irrelevant:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uiM48lb7n3A
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>>146996012
Twinking has been around since DeS

Nice blog by the way, I'll make sure to add it in my weekly roundup of 'hidden gems: 4chumblr's best blogs'
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>>146996387

Because meme'ing people with overpowered twinks abusing overpowered shit in the game (both raw DS axe and caestus) is boring. You're not actually "good", you're just proving you can abuse the game to boost your own ego.

It's all an illusion. There's no actual skill involved, sorry.
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>>146996545
We don't know if dusk died. She was never shown to be killed in game or hollow
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>>146996646
Explain what her deal is after Manus then.
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>buy DS:PTDE on sale
>runs like shit
>install DSfix and tweak the settings a bit
>get solid 30fps for a couple days
>boot it up this afternoon
>struggles to get 20fps

Why the fuck, man. TW3 is still running at a solid 60fps as of right now, why is this fucker giving me such a hard time.
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>>146996335
------The joke--->

Your head
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>>146996626

there is literally no skill involved in any type of dark souls pvp

neck yourself if you think otherwise
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>>146996626

No, it's to make all the 3v1s fair fights.
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>>146996626
Requiring skill != fun
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>>146996717
you're probably an idiot
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woah....
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Why don't you finger yourself everywhere, dsg?
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>>146996717
Why can't people who play Witcher go 5 minutes without telling us they play Witcher?
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>>146994806
Well I helped two random's there. I guess one of them was probably you.
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>>146997006
To trigger people like yourself.
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>>146996387
Because I'm doing a solo dried finger run.
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>>146997006


???

how insecure are you that a mention of a videogame requires you to sperg out and go offtopic
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>>146996763

Yes, that was the point I was making. Which is why I stopped playing and uninstalled it finally.

>>146996803
>>146996868

It's neither fair nor fun. 3 ants vs. an anteater is neither fair nor fun, in all honesty you probably have more estus at a higher upgrade level than the host if you're still invading in the undead settlement there. That, on top of using DS axe and caestus, and probably being pretty experienced with using the broken caestus. Hell even if you aren't, even with the nerf, it's still forgiving as all hell, and you still one shot people with, you guessed it, hornet ring.

That doesn't sound like fun at all. Excuse me while I go play other games which are actually fun and, dare I say, BALANCED. Remember that word, faggots, because dark souls PvP is anything but.
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>>146996268
To level up with

>>146996708
She was tired and a a little sad about everything that happened
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>>146996335
see >>146996735
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>first hollow gem in Farron Keep
>Profaned Coal all the way in Irithyll Dungeon
Why would they do this?
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>>146997165
>fun is objective and I get to determine what is an isn't fun
Okay champ.
>>
Reminder, if there is a single aspect of Dark Souls 2 that you like, you are not a real Dark Souls fan.
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just did a blind run through in Blighttown and beat the spider lady. Most sressful shit ever
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>>146996904
Most likely.

>>146997006
Only semi demanding game I'm playing lately. I don't actually like it that much, if it's any consolation.
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>>146997091
>u mad
>>146997158
>u insecure
I get it now, thank you.
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>>146997281

wow, actually autistic
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>>146997241
Geez give it a rest.
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>>146997241
;^)
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>>146997216
>tfw zero sequence breaking aside from killing Emma
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>>146997203
Gehrman clearly created her with the intentions of having a loving significant other for himself and other hunters that could fulfill their desires.

She bleeds cum for fucks sake.
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>>146997281
Holy shit
I've seen tumblr get triggered at dumbshit but this is new to me.
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>>146997165
Anteaters are nice animals and watching them eat ants is fun.
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>>146997327
Autism? On my 4chan?
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>>146996387
>>146996803
Beating up low level noobs is not a fair fight, even in a 3v1, if you have a build especially made for it.
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>>146996646
>find a corpse with her unique gear on it, in prayer
>where we find her initially
>she's a pious little cunt
come on dude, she dies between the dlc and ds1
>>
How badly would DaS3 run if DaS1 ran at constant 40fps with my rig?
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>>146997270
the only reasons to use dsfix is for fps unlock, texture ovveride and downsampling; if your pc cant run DaS1 at 30 you should meme yourself
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>>146997364
No-doll Irithyll skip.
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>>146997241
fuck you, power stancing caestus and bonefist was the greatest shit in my life
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>>146997165
Balance isn't fun. People who think balance is fun are boring and salty.
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>>146997241
>do i fit in yet xDD
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>>146997456
Pirate it and check
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>>146997490
Not exactly comparable. Breaking the game with Tears isn't exactly intended.
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>>146997367
>She bleeds cum
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>>146997456
DaS3 runs a lot better than DaS.
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>>146997225

Let me guess: you probably burned ants with a magnifying glass as a child, yes? Maybe even kicked the shit out of a stray cat or two?

I mean fuck just use CE if going on a power trip is so important to you.
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>>146997456
It would probably run better. Dark Souls 1 PC is garbage software.
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>>146997490
Be honest anon, do you truly think From won't patch out that fun?
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>>146997435
lol you need other people to beat the game for you shut the fuck up scrub
>>
>>146997628
>>146997709
That's good to hear. I guess they got better in optimization?
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>>146997646
>beating people in a video game in which you're outnumbered and disadvantaged is just as bad as animal abuse
Keep going bud.
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>>146997807
>they got better in optimization
no, the game runs like shit for what it is
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>>146997606
Fair point. Yeah, the Dancer skip seems to be the only dev-intended one.
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>>146997571
>Balance isn't fun. People who think balance is fun are boring and salty.
>t. 12 year old

No see, balance actually means that the more skilled player wins in the end. See, if things aren't balanced, a player who is less skilled will still be able to win if they abuse something that the more skilled player does not. They have an unfair advantage.

You want to feel powerful just like the other anon, I get that. I'm just saying that you should recognize that you're presenting to everyone who reads your posts that you have the mindset of an immature child. Take that as you will, rage about it if you want, you'll only prove my point further, which is the most beautiful thing about it.
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>>146997829
>outnumbered and disadvantaged
>twink build vs noobs
Not really breh
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>>146996387
i'd argue that there's a difference between low level invasions and twinking, which is what happens here but when every host has at least 2 buttbuddies, options are getting narrower.
invaders are supposed to be an extra "FUCK FUCK FUCK NOT NOW", not a "cool, estus refill"
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>>146997895

no one cares you fucking autist

blow your brains out and go back to /r/ds3
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>>146997713
No, I expect they absolutely will and probably nerf Tears in some other way while they're at it
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>>146997935
>outnumbered
>half estus
>reduced health
High damage is literally the only thing he's got on his side.
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>>146997721
I invade at higher levels to get into 2v1s and 3v1s, thank you very much.

If you think you're hot shit because you're stomping shitters in the undead settlement with your perfectly optimized 7 estus flask twink, just because there are 3 of them, then you're probably shit at fighting proper 3v1s.
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>>146997895

jesus christ someone was bullied in high school
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>>146997829

I'm not saying the invasion system isn't broken, don't get me wrong. It's an unbalanced piece of shit in fact, for many reasons, and to some degree on both sides of the equation. It's why I've avoided it in general.

My point isn't just that you're beating people and that's wrong. My point is that the way you beat people is by essentially making yourself a demigod, creating an all-powerful one-shot-killing character that itself takes very little damage. And that's not fun except for immature children.

You're basically Dr. Manhattan in the Vietnam War. Except with the mindset that you really enjoy that feeling of omnipotence.
>>
Why is Flash Sweat so useless? I doesn't do shit against lava, I still die in like 5 seconds
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>>146998098
>High damage is literally the only thing he's got on his side.
He also has the knowledge and all the good pvp items to destroy any new player.
Half estus and reduced damage barely matters when he is 2shotting everyone else
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>>146998098
>half estus
He's got six +8 estus as a fucking invader. Most lowbie hosts at that point have four unupgraded or +1 at most.
>>
Speaking of lava, what fucking logic allows you to pick up Sacred Flame?

Usually, spells are taught by merchants, but I suppose you could reason picking up spells by saying they're inscribed on scrolls.
But how the fuck does a scroll survive in lava?
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>>146998253
>And that's not fun except for immature children.
The amount of moral posturing going on here is absurd
>>
>>146998181
Oh yeah we all were.
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>>146998124
>Still playing ds3
>lie about invading

You're not helping yourself fag
>>
>>146997895
Life is an unfair advantage. If you hate doing anything which is not perfectly balanced, where anything other than your "skill" is the determinate of whether you win the game or not, then yeah, you're boring and salty. Why are you even posting here? Go play Ryu vs. Ryu in street fighter or something.

>>146998098
When you go through the game and gather every estus shard and bone shard before invading, you actually have better estus than the shitters.
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>>146998506
>I'm a whiny pussy who's afraid of UNFAIR FIGHTS, therefore everybody else must be too.
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>>146998263
Kick, punch, it's all in the mind

>>146998436
That's just how sacred it is
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>>146998098

>half the estus
>except it's the beginning of the game and it seems like he already got all 14-15 estus, whereas someone in the undead settlement at that level might not even have 7 of his own
>also upgraded higher than someone at that level
>also he takes much less damage with end game gear as clearly seen in the webm and one shots people with caestus parries
>also they're going to generally be noobs who don't know what they're doing vs. someone who is experienced

I mean, really kid? How long have you played the game?

I'll tell you what. Show me some of your SL120 invasions against ganks. That would impress me. Or your friend there, assuming you're not the same person.

Show me the invasions you win where people actually know wtf they're doing and you don't have a gigantic advantage between rings, armor, and weapons.

Better yet show me the video of michael jordan dunking on a team of kids with down syndrome where he feels awesome about himself afterwards.
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>>146998575
>For what purpose?
You seem to forget this is From Software.
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Who was even the person who designed pestilent mercury and decided that it was ok? Like what even was going through their mind when they said "8 damage per tick? Perfect!"

Lifedrain patch was 20x stronger and it was a mediocre spell
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>>146998487

You're literally just saying you're an immature child in this case. Unless you actually have an argument defending using an overpowered character to beat up on the weak and ignorant, I suggest you just stop posting right now.
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just did a blind run through in Blighttown and beat the spider lady. Most sressful shit ever
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>>146998671
It's not a matter of being afraid to do anything its a matter of invading a group of 3 99 out of 100 times isn't fun for anyone, add that to the fact that you're obviously a scrub who can't fight 3v1 and it isn't a stretch to come to the conclusion that you've invaded maybe a handful of times at most
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>all these redditards coming out of the woodworks now that the only effective invasions are really low twinking operations in undead settlement
>I'M THE BIG MAN NOW CHIEF!!!!
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>>146998679
LOL, an ember, that's it?!
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>>146998263
Hold up your shield before stepping on lava.
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>>146997242
>>146998861
You okay anon?
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>>146998821
It should apply curse but you know, no fun allowed in ds3
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>>146998836
The thing about you that's funny is that you call people immature children if they want to have an unfair advantage, but if a game puts you at an unfair disadvantage, you say it's terrible, rather than honing your skill to make up for the handicap.

So if he's a child, I guess that makes you a teenager, and people who are able to have fun by beating the odds are adults.
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>>146998528

Lol, this is too fucking much. I'm laughing so fucking hard I'm in tears right now.

Literally, LITERALLY 12 years old, lmao. I just can't.
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>>146998679
I don't have that much health though
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>beat Ornstein and Smough by taking out Smough first
>fight the Four Kings and beat them on the third try
>beat Artorias in one attempt, manage to cut off Kalameet's tail when fighting him
>defeat Gwyn in two attempts
>die like 15 times in a row to the Pursuer and have my HP bar cut in half because I didn't try using the ballista

I have never felt this bad in my life.
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>>146997242
hi
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>>146998994
No, the other shiny in that bit of lava is Sacred Flame.
http://darksouls3.wikidot.com/sacred-flame
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>no frost infusion or buff
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>>146999037
just did a blind run through in Blighttown and beat the spider lady. Most sressful shit ever
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>>146999179
time to level up vig faggit
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>>146998979
>It's not fun for me, therefore it's not fun for anybody
>you're obviously a scrub who can't fight a 3v1, which is why you claim to enjoy fighting 3v1s, while I claim they're not fun

This is some pretty amazing logic you're using.

It's almost like, I'm the one who's good at fighting 3v1s, which is why I enjoy it, and YOU'RE the one who's a scrub, which is why you don't enjoy it.

But your ego can't handle that possibility, so therefore, it's obvious that I never actually invade.
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>>146999310
Wanna talk about the sexy spider tits?
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>>146995175
>>146995469
but that makes no sense.
are you gonna start saying the adventures of cookie and cream is apart of the dark souls timeline because it has water in it.
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>>146999287
>no frost spells
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>>146999189
You don't even need the ballista, the dude is WR bait
>>146999229
Fuck off pupper
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>>146999287
DLC soon
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>>146998836
Maybe when you pose an argument that isn't the equivalent of "twinks are all edgy angsty children who bully autists and animals for sexual pleasure"
Different people find different things fun. It's a goddamn video game of all things, and one where getting invaded and then killed by said invader is such a temporary non-issue that it's not even worth getting this worked up over.
But keep trying to be the moral authority here.
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>>146999229
He's cute ;3 i wnna suck his bone lol
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>>146999287

Does frost even do anything? I use my irithrill rapier +5 once in a while for fun and I never notice it applying to anything
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>>146999448
It gives bonus damage on proc. I'm not sure how much is determined, but I can definitely tell when I hit a dude with my Vordt's two or three times and my damage is a bit more than doubled (or tripled, respectively)
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>>146999448
Stamina debuff. You'll never notice it in PvE by virtue of every enemy having infinite stamina
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>>146999391
They were nice but no nips. Potential fap material tho
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>>146999102
>but if a game puts you at an unfair disadvantage, you say it's terrible, rather than honing your skill to make up for the handicap.
>twinking out a character to the max = "honing your skill"

LOL

HE REALLY JUST SAID THAT. HE REALLY JUST SAID TWINKING IS "honing your skill", THE ABSOLUTE MADMAN!

The funniest thing of all, though? That I uninstalled DS3 and am playing actually balanced competitive multiplayer games like Rocket League instead now. It's actually a lot more fun than abusing an obviously broken system. Where both sides are equal and my skill at the game actually matters instead of "lol SL20-30 with 15 +8 estus before invading and raw DS axe with resin and the best parrying item in the game with hornet ring, EXCUSE ME WHILE I SHOW YOU HOW SKILLED I AM AT DOING A MILLION MORE DAMAGE THAN YOU AND IMMEDIATELY KILL YOU IF YOU EVER SPAM INTO MY CAESTUS HAHA"

Honed skills, lmfao. You're pathetic, kid. Congratulations.
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How the FUCK do you kill the Ceaseless Discharge?!
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>>146999596
We talkin' 'bout waifus?
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>>146999717
Roll to the side.
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>>146999717
run away famygdalam the rest will follow
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>>146999579
You'll never notice it in pvp as well since it takes forever to build-up and your opponent will die before getting frostbitten
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what's the likelihood of DLC adding a special ash that allows you to buy infinite slabs?
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>>146999745

I'm game.
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Invaded by dark spirit Forlorn!
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holy fuck people have just been spamming katana running R1's for the past month. If you use a katana, you are cancer.
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>>146999360
Maybe you could convince people you were good at 3v1s if invaders weren't hit with every handicap in the book or if every actual good pvper hadn't given up on trying to make Ds3 invasions bearable but the reality is the deck is so stacked against the invader that individual skill folds to 3 man r1 spam. Now everything you've written has only demonstrated to me that Ds3 is your first souls game and that you aren't actually any good at it so I'm gonna go ahead and call you a lying shitter because that's what you are, you aren't regularly beating any squads that r1ing away with 3 straight swords on this shitty netcode and don't even try to front as if you do
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>Fucking around Irithyll at 43
>Get invaded by a grapefruit
>Spams Farron Dart
>Tosses Chaos Fireballs
>Dashes around with a dagger
>Pulls out a Ceastus on the offhand
I don't even know what build this was

He should stack vit because my Old Wolf Curved Sword cut him in half
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>>146999678
>being this mad about a game you're not playing
I refuse to believe this is not bait
>>146999717
Roll to the side
Hit the arm
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>>146999678
You really are a moron aren't you?

I'm not saying that twinking is honing your skill. I'm saying that invading people who are at your level, who have complete builds, who do as much damage as you, who have more estus than you, who have a numbers advantage against you, then getting good and FUCKING WINNING ANYWAY, is a thousand times more fun than your whiny ass has playing perfectly fair and balanced competitive skill based games for tryhards.
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>>146999972
>absolute madman covenant
>expecting any less
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>>146999972
cool story was that your first pvp experience?
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>>146999893
>mfw playing a hexer
>some dude literally only did this for the entirety of the fight
>cast times for even the fastest spells still come out too slow
>his recovery is so fast I can't even cast HA Lifehunt without him rolling away
>don't keep a caestus or shield on me to parry him
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
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>>146999927

Not that guy but I like how DS3 invasion PvP essentially boils down to "I really hope they all R1 spam into my caestus and that I can subsequently one shot them as a result, otherwise I'm fucked".

Sounds like a lot of fun!
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>>146999893
use a pickaxe with leo ring, it reks them so badly it's hilarious. Hitting them for 600+ damage in 1 swing is glorious
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>>146999807

I don't even notice when vordt applies it to me, it feels like a really shitty bleed followed by a bar on my screen signifying a debuff that I just ignore because the effect is negligible
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pickle rum, pump a pee
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>>146999972
>invaded by grapefruit
You summoned a sunbro?
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>>146999893

People tell me I should use the BK shield because it has 3 more stability points, but in all honesty those -3 stability points are entirely worth it for the ability to even medium shield parry with the LK shield. It's not a lot, but it's enough, I tell you h'wut.
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>>147000207
Yeah right, frost is like DS2 bleed but even worse
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>>147000121
It wouldn't be so bad if the latency wasn't awful and the recovery time is so quick. But they can jab it, not even make contact with you but hit you anyways, and roll around before you can respond. Such bullshit.
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>>146999189
Just circle-strafe him, his attacks have poor tracking. Rolling in DS2 early game is bad because it takes all of your stamina and has few iframes.
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>>146999893
>>147000121
>use yhorm's because MACHETES
>just HA and fuck their shit up
it's still bloody ridiculous though
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>>146999927
Maybe if you would actually play the fucking game instead of spending all your time here listening to people complain constantly about supposed problems, you wouldn't suck so terribly.

I really enjoy how you keep interpreting my posts and making assumptions, all of which are completely wrong.
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>>146999893
Just use astora greatsword's rolling attack
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>>146999893
>If you use a katana, you are cancer.
This has never not been true
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Can someone drop me flame hammer
PS4
high wall of lothric
pass dsg
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>>146999893
>katana running R1
oh you mean the most easily parried attack in the entire game
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>>146999189
You can either parry him or strafe. I recommend summoning someone and using the ballista though. He is seriously one of the hardest bosses for me, even during his later appearances.
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>>147000534
nigga shut the fuck up nobody believes that you actually win or enjoy the 3v1 invasion of ds3
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Anyone have a low level hollow weapon for pc?
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>>147000683
they were fine in dark souls 1 imo. There were definitely worse weapons DEMONS SPEAR but in dark souls 3 they are truly the most cancerous weapons. Especially that stupid flying dual katana that stuns you when you make contact with their knee and then kills you by bleed while you're stunned.
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*LEGION ETIQUETTE gesture*
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I've only just now gotten around to playing DS3, i bought it when i came out but my GPU wasn't good enough to run it well so i put it aside until now.

I just killed Aldritch and am now making my way through Ithryl Dungeon. Been using a straight sword so far cause that's my usual playstyle/weapon type, but i was thinking of swapping to a greatsword for fun later, or maybe for my next playthrough. What's some of the good or better greatswords though? I really have no idea since last i checked they were all shit until some patch they did.

To clarify i do not what an ultra greatsword, just a normal greatsword.
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>>147000814
Cool projection.
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I haven't been here in months.
Is it true Miyazaki has no involvement with the DLC?
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>>147000814
I enjoy playing dark souls 3, which is why I post in this general.

I think the people who don't like playing the game that the general is about should stop posting in it.
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>>147000060
>a game I'm not playing
>a game I just uninstalled

These things are different, nice try though with the meme image. I bet you feel proud of yourself for that one.

>>147000071

>who have complete builds
>who do as much damage as you
>who have more estus than you

None of these things are true you twinking piece of shit. Here let me rephrase that for you:

>I'm not saying that twinking is honing your skill. I'm saying that invading people who are at your level, who have incomplete low level builds, who are inexperienced and potentially even playing the game for the first time, who do far less damage than you because of your overpowered DS axe which is specifically used at this low level because of how strong it is while raw infused and with resin because FROM can't into balancing, who get one shot by your caestus parrying which is not only incredibly easy to pull off, but because of your enormous estus stash and vig gouging and the speed of caestus parrying is nearly completely unpunishable, who have equal if not far less estus than you and at a much lower undead shard level, but who have a numbers advantage on you (which again doesn't matter when you're just one-two shotting noobs who don't know what they're doing), and FUCKING WINNING ANYWAY, is a thousand times more fun than your perfectly fair and balanced skill based game.

Go and sit in the corner for awhile. You deserve it.
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>>147000839
That's a really vague request. I could drop you one but I'd need something a bit more concrete than just a "weapon"
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>>147000994
one that can kills the tree pls
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>need pale tongue to respec because I spent all my PvE ones already
>invade some guy at archives
>attack him at the top floor just before the gank squad
>he is really unskilled, hiding behind his shield and getting kick riposted twice
>end up letting him heal when he's almost dead and then I let off and lose on purpose

Why am I such a pussy
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>>147001065
Anon I'm afraid I might give you something you can't even hold.
Help me help you.
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>>147000872
>>147000946
If you like Ds3 pvp it means this is your first souls game, every single other one does it better
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>>147000981
>None of these things are true you twinking piece of shit.
Are you completely incapable of understanding human language?

I'M NOT THE GUY DEFENDING TWINKING. I am AGAINST twinking. I am talking about NOT twinking. I am talking about invading fucking GANKERS AT HIGH LEVEL.

Do I have to make it even more clear for your stupid fucking ass?
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>>147000981
I didn't claim you haven't played it. Just that you aren't currently. Since it's uninstalled
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>>147001179
I have played every game since demon's souls and this game has my favorite pvp. Sorry for having a different opinion than you and the /dsg/ whinemind.
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>>147001179
I remember when people said this about DS2.
You're so fickle sometimes, dsg
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>>147000697
anyone ?
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>>147000427
>use a spear and literally outpoke them with leo ring
>also shields which completely hard counter running R1's

I mean it's not that hard if you're prepared. Same reason why I have carthus curved sword, kingslayer ring, and bleed resin for greatshield faggots.
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>>147000994
Anything hollow +1-4 weapon/shield. I don't really care what.
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>>147001353
>le /dsg/ is one person meme
go back to your real hivemind that spawned you, scum
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>>147000254
xD
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>>147001425
+4 Hollow Greataxe coming up. I'll be at the Dilapidated Bridge, dsg.
At least give me you Str/Dex values, jesus
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>>147001393
When ds3 wasn't around then it was also true of Ds2 that every other game did pvp better

>>147001353
And you're full of shit
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CRAAAAWLLLLING
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>>147001420
yeah and then they spam r1 and your shield breaks after your stmaina is drained from blocking twice and poking through it and you get one shot facestabbed

fun game <]:^)
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>>147001543
>And you're full of shit
Why did I expect that you would accuse me of lying?

Oh right it's because that's what you've said in every post you've made.

What kind of person assumes that everybody who disagrees with him must be lying?
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>>147001535
My str/dex are 10 and 13
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>>147001179
CRAWWWWLLIIING
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>>147001179
Who would have thought taking away the babies' crutches would agitate them so much.
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>>147001698
>What kind of person assumes that everybody who disagrees with him must be lying?
an autist
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>>147001698
Because no rational person would find more to enjoy in ds3 pvp vs any other entry in the series, it's straight up dogshit

maybe I just made a mistake in assuming you weren't an idiot, it's either that or you're lying about having played the other games. So which is it?
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>>147001789
You better get 1 more dex or else I just wasted my only hollow gem
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>watching someone fight the nameless king on NG
>+4 irithyll straightsword doing 204 damage per hit
>watch someone else fighting nameless king on NG
>+10 UGS dealing 298 damage per hit

Great game balance.
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>>147001198

Regardless, if you go back to what I posted in response to, I was specifically referring to twinking not equaling "but if a game puts you at an unfair disadvantage, you say it's terrible, rather than honing your skill to make up for the handicap."

Twinking is not "honing your skill to make up for the handicap", it's abusing mechanics in the game which in turn gives YOU the unfair advantage (low SL + all of the upgraded estus and best overpowered equipment).

You can say what you want about the problems inherent in the anonymous system of 4chan in situations like these, but my points are still sound when taken in context of what they're referring to. If you agree and are against twinking and we're on the same side, then great. Then I'm not arguing against you, I'm arguing against the OP with the invasions are fun webm.
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>>147001870
I think anybody who's paid attention to this wonderful conversation until now can make up their own mind about which of us is the rational one.
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>>146999850
Unlikely. I would like there to be an enemy you can farm slab off of however.
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I wish madman phantoms could come into the boss fight with the host. Still with friendly fire enabled, of course.
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>>147001946
Problem?
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>>147001842
And now the host has every crutch in the book and flipped the game into a host friendly gayfest

And Ds3 isn't shitty just because of how nice it is to scrubs, the phantom range on everything, the total dominance of straight swords, and the pvp centered around parry one shots is what makes it shit
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>>147001870
>anybody that disagrees with me is an idiot or lieing
get over yourself you outrageous faggot
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>>147002067
So you'd want even less people using the signs?
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>>147001993
>you: I enjoy 3v1 straight sword gangbangs
>me: there's a ton of problems with ds3

Yeah, you said it better than i ever could
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Dragon's Dogma is better
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>>147002202
This is like an MSPaint comic at this point.
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DS>BB>DS3>DS2>DeS
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>>147001885
Thanks for the weapon, first time I've had my hands on a flamberge since DS1 I think.
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>>147002070
You don't get that phantom range is caused because shitty connections instead of the game right?
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>>147002070
Yeah, how dare From make the aggressor not have an obscene upper hand for once.

>the phantom range on everything, the total dominance of straight swords, and the pvp centered around parry one shots is what makes it shit
And you go around saying people haven't played the games. Pathetic.
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>>147001993
>>147002202
More like anyone who's been paying attention to this conversation is more autistic than both of you combined.

Get a room and fuck off.
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>>147002070
>the phantom range on everything, the total dominance of straight swords, and the pvp centered around parry one shots is what makes it shit
this has been the case in literally every dark souls game tho lmao
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>>147002145
How would that make less people summon grapes? I mean, one of the reasons people don't now is that they'll inevitably betray the host before the bossfog because they get no reward if he enters. If they could help out with the boss and go home with a shackle, I think a lot more would be willing to risk it.
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>>147002094
umad ds3 babby?
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>>147001323

Then allow me to rephrase that by saying I have played the game for almost 300 hours and just uninstalled it today, and that none of this information makes my opinion invalid in any way. I'm still very experienced in dark souls 3 PvP which I have spent the majority of my time (~250 hours) being involved in. Just because I just stopped playing it doesn't invalidate that.

It's hard to bring real discussion and logic to these threads, but at least I try.
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>>147002070
I enjoy having crutches to carry me through the game
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>>147002282
Np m8. Those souls are for a level up if you needed it.
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>>147002145
i dunno itd be pretty cool if grapes could get shackles by either killing the boss or killing the host/phantoms
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>>147002350
You sound like the largest and biggest faggot, dude.

Just leave, just get off it, dude.
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>>147002324
>>147002303
You're a fucking moron if you think these problems were even a fraction as bad in their egregiousness in the other titles as they are present in ds3, end of story
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>>147002454
That's what I thought they were prior to purchase. I kept hearing about "wildcard phantoms" and I assumed they either had the ability to kill you or enter the boss fog and kill the boss for their tokens.
I'm a little disappointed.
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>>147002530
They literally were you dumb nigger
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>>147002530
That's because pvp was more complicated due to stupid glitches in the engine which you had to master
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FC WHERE?
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>>147002695
>still playing Cash In 3
no
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>>147001687

With a lothric knight shield, block the first attack and parry the second. Assuming latency isn't completely fucked, it's surprisingly consistent. Same is true of spears btw.

Or just roll away like any good turtle knows how to do, and again keep them at a distance with your spear. If you can't into spacing with a spear I really don't know what to tell you. Probably the most fun thing regardless is to just block their running R1 and then roll, repeating this while not even attacking until they get bored. It creates a literal stalemate. Every so often throw out an R1 or R2 when you see them getting visibly frustrated at not being able to do shit. They often just switch weapons eventually once they know what's up in my experience.
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>>147002530
It was the exact same except worse because backstabs were overpowered and way too easy to get off.
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>>147002616
nah they weren't, like I said you're a moron if you think otherwise end of story
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>>147002530
Phantom range was worse in every single previous game.
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>>147002326
>>147002454
Yeah, but why would you summon a grape instead of a white or gold? If you do, you already know you can easily bail and force them to 1v1, but if they entered boss battles, a player + a boss can be almost impossible. How many people did you see winning against a mirror knight + human summon?
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>>147002695
Go host and they will come.
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>>147002350
I never said anything about your opinion being invalid. I just commented on how mad you are about a game you're not playing
In other words: why the fuck do you care? And why are you still posting?
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>>147002854
Literally not an argument.
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>>147002854
>you're a moron if you don't agree with me
again, you're a dumb nigger. why are people on this board such dumb niggers?
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>>147002810
>backstabs were overpowered
ahahahahahaha

I'd say im surprised these are the people disagreeing with me, but you know, I'm not
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>>147002774
And then his friend stabs you in the back, because those tactics are only ever viable 1v1.
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>>147002286
Not that guy but i don't remember DS1 having this huge of a problem with phantom range. Obviously it had problems and people were laggy, people would get bullshit hits on you sometimes, etc, but it was not as bad as this. It feels way worse in DS3, literally every single pvp encounter i've had so far has been 100% phantom reach damage, every single hit that 'connected' was when either i was out of range or the guy guy was out of range, yet it still hit anyway. It just doesn't feel fair at all, if i lose and die i feel cheated and have nothing but contempt for the fight and the person i fought. If i win and kill them it doesn't feel like you really earned it. It's just dumb.

I don't know how bad it was in DS2 cause i never did pvp in that one, game was garbage so i just went through it and was done.
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>>147002530
phantom range is no worse than it's ever been.

straight swords aren't dominant. bad players spam the r1 and if you're half-decent you can deal with it

there are so many options to avoid getting parried, parrying is only the focus against bad players, such as those spamming r1
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>>147002995
>oh shit I just don't have anything in response to say
>I know, I'll just type "ahahahaha" that will surely show them!
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>>147002901
I dunno, I'd find it fun. I like some unpredictability.
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>>147002995
People were actually able to chain backstabs back to back from 100-0%, they were that easy to do.
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>>147002937
literally gave all the arguments before fuckboi
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>>147002901
>why would you summon a grape instead of a white or gold?
for fun
didnt think about player+boss battle tho, thought it more of a 'kill host or help host' scenario, good thought
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>>147002995
>I'd say im surprised these are the people disagreeing with me, but you know, I'm not
Acknowledging you're wrong is the first step. Why are you even complaining about parries if backstabs are the same shit but easier to pull.
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>>147002990
You're posting on 4chan, anon. Do you really have to ask?
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>>147003232
Which were addressed, and then you defaulted to "ur dumb haha"
As far as I can tell, you've given up.
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I didn't think I was having a bad day, just confirmed that I am bad. Still not sure why you all came after me so hard though. :/
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>>147002467

Closest thing I'll get in these parts to a concession, I'll take it. GG.

>In other words: why the fuck do you care?

Because I really WANTED to be able to keep playing it. As I'm sure a lot of people here can attest to, if FROM just made a few very simple balance changes to the game which we've all mentioned many times at one time or another, it'd be perfect and something that could be played with a maintained community for a very long time.

As it stands, it can't and won't, though. I really tried to work with the bullshit for this long but now I'm just fatigued. I care because I want to keep playing DS3 and even put up with it despite the bullshit balancing for a long time as shown by the hours I put into it thus far, but I've now realized that it's never going to get better. I wish it did get better though, so I could keep playing it, because I actually really enjoy the PvP in the rare situations where things are balanced.

That's why I care.
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>>147003186
Maybe you shouldn't roll away in spastic fear and people wouldn't be able to walk up and backstab your roll 3 times in a row

>>147003102
see>>147003091
You could take a step back to avoid another players swing in Ds1, in ds2 and 3 you HAVE to roll or the hit is going to register whether you be behind them or 3x the distance of blade length away
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>>147003364
You sound like the largest and biggest faggot, dude.

Just leave, just get off it, dude.
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>>147003049

Yeah, I was talking about 1v1's. The only PvP worth doing in this garbage game.

In that case use a caestus and some overpowered twink build and weapon setup like everyone else and learn the parrying timing for the single attack they apparently spam over and over predictably at you. Surprisingly enough katana running R1's are parriable, and hornet rings still usually 1-shot people at low levels especially if you have a high AR weapon to swap to.

But in duels yeah, LK shield works great.
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>>147003264
They're not easier or equatable

to do a backstab you need to open yourself up to it somehow, whether that be incessantly bs fishing or attacking predictably

a parry is a prayer that the netcode registers it for you, you dweebs wouldn't even be able to hit ripostes in ds1 cause the window isn't 5 years long
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>>147003259
>>147003185

The thing is, you're exceptions not rules, which is why I probably see no purple signs anywhere but Pontiff's.
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>>147003423
>You could take a step back to avoid another players swing
I manage to do that sometimes in dark souls 3. It depends on how good the connection is. Frankly, you people complaining about this just need to learn the range on attacks.
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>>147003364
What's stopping you? And since you don't play it, why post about it?
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>>147003746
Wow it happens sometimes, what a great game that functions sometimes
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>>147003689
>to do a backstab you need to open yourself up to it somehow
>a parry is a prayer that the netcode registers it for you
You are so full of shit, /dsg/. It's amazing.
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>>147003746
Yeah dude, sure i'll just learn the range of all different kinds of weapons that have random different phantom reaches that can be unpredictable most of the time.

Can you just not be a faggot? You sound like one of those "works for me :^)" people when a ton of people are having an issue.
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>>147003926
This is the part where you explain why what you said is right but that seems to conveniently be missing....huh that's weird......
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>>147003746
>it depends on how good the connection is
>frankly though that doesn't matter because I'm smart and everyone is stupid
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>>147003862
I'm sorry dipshit but the internet isn't magic. If the connection is bad the connection is bad. "Good netcode" can't somehow force packets to arrive faster.
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>>147004093
>defending developer ineptitude
This is beginning to be a little comical
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30/30 or 40/40 for a pyromancy build?
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>>147003998
I don't understand what your issue is. I don't see the issue you're seeing, so therefore either you're extremely unlucky, your internet connection is terrible, or you just don't have the feel for the game.

>>147004025
That guy is obviously lagging. He isn't connecting to you at a fast enough speed for the game to work properly. That happens in online video games.
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>>147004412
>I'll just ignore the redflag in my post
SCRUMPADOOCIUS
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>>147004383
What level?
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>>147004014
There's no need to explain how backstabs are half praying to the netcode and half blind luck with how often the game (did not) update player positions, as anyone following this conversation has played DaS at some point. Enough of filling captchas for some subhuman spouting bullshit on the internet, enjoy the last (you).
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>>147004232
What the fuck do you know about software development? I'm guessing it's nothing.
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>>147004412
when the connection is peer to peer yeah.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i6qa7aptE1Q
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Hiw cool would it be if there was a Bow that scaled off dex?
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>>147004602
>backstabs are half praying to the netcode and half blind luck with how often the game (did not) update player positions

I bet this is what every nub that I backstab the shit out of says to himself
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>get the blue sentinel's summon notification
>jesus christ finally
>get summoned at the same time as a Darkmoon is summoned in
>the host already had a gold phantom with him
>the game literally went from a 2v1 to a 4v1 in a matter of 5 seconds

I felt bad for the guy so I didn't bother helping them gank him, but jeez this game really is designed to make invading absolutely unappealing
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>>147003998
>Yeah dude, sure i'll just learn the range of all different kinds of weapons that have random different phantom reaches that can be unpredictable most of the time.
Strange how this only turned into an issue now. It's almost like you haven't played the other games that suffer from this very same issue, some of which are even worse than 3.
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>>147003805

What's stopping me from playing it you mean? Because it's not fun anymore, I can no longer ignore how unbalanced it is. I tried for a really long time.

I post about it because complaining is cathartic, I like to engage other people in a topic that interests me (multiplayer game balance in a game I actually love if not for the dumb imbalance which likely will never get resolved), and this is 4chan. The whole point is to be able to speak your mind and fully express yourself with no consequences.

Might as well ask why anyone posts on /pol/ when all of the people there have effectively zero real effect on global politics. It's still obviously useful to them individually even though the result is ultimately inert.
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>>147004785
Just because you are good in a broken system does not mean that the system isn't broken. Backstabbing is more than blind luck but we've all seen our fair share of latency related bullshit in this series.
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>>147005043
That's just not true, Ds3 is far and away the worst offender
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>>147005148
Well they sure did a great job of fixing it :^)
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>>147005279
You never really playes 1 and 2 then.
3 is a bless in this regard. Even though still bad.
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>>147005098
I didn't like dark souls 2 and so I stopped posting in /dsg/. I didn't come here to shit on everybody's fun for the sake of "catharsis".

I think you need to stop posting on 4chan and playing rocket league and go release your frustration in some girl's vagina.
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>>147004542
120
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>>147004939
invading embered hosts is wrong
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>>147005449
>You just need pussy
Don't we all.
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>>147005434
Not a single person who has actually done some amount of pvp in all of these games would agree with you
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>>147005449
Joke's on you, there was no fun.
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>>147005564
Keep trying to convince yourself of that.
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>>147005495
40/40 then.
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>>147005564
>people who disagree with me don't exist or are lying
this again
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>>147005668
I think you got this a little twisted
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>>147004939
>Decides to do some Blue Phantom work
>Gets summoned into host's word.
>They already have two more phantoms helping them fight the single invader.
>1v4, invader doesn't even have time to land an attack.
>"Wow, this seems really unfair. How is the guy even supposed to-"
>Invader is killed by Giant Enemy Crab
>Right, Giant Seed.

I've been on both sides of this, and really this game has really dampened my desire for PvP because of how often I run into this situation. It's been a long while since I've gotten a 1v2 fight, and I really can't recall if I was ever able to get a proper 1v1 duel.
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>>147005998
You don't even need a seed for dangerous enemies, giant crabs and black knights and computer character NPCs are all innately hostile to invaders and hosts alike
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>>147005998
I'm getting a lot of 1v1 invasions now that the games died down abit. But still mostly guys running through with their sl 120 butt buddy
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I just beat the three lords and finished up that shit with Sirris.

A few questions: is dancer the only next thing to do? What about optional areas at this point? Can I respec woth rosario now that I helped sirris? What upgrade level should be shit be at this point? Plus 7 or 8? Level 60ish?
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>>147006840
Respec doesn't make Sirris spergout anymore.
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>>147006198
they're not hostile (they dont attack invaders on sight) but they can damage invaders if they get hit
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>>146997490

>instead of designing the levels properly, they just put kill zones at heights you can certainly survive

They did this shit in Fishing Hamlet too, it's so unbelievably retarded.
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>>147006970
Black knights and tsorig have targeted me as an invader without a seed up
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>>147006971
I don't know why they even do progression walls anymore.
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I'm at 27 ganks summons in a row for dregs at SL 80. Fuck the nigger who thought invasions should be required to get acheivments, then only let people who have phantoms be summoned.
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What makes Blighttown comfy exactly
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>>146997490
How?
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>>147007552
Nothing at all. Everything about the place is annoying, they only got it right in dark souls 2
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>>147007552
Background noises and platforming.
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>>146999745
Priscilla looks like she's about to rape you.
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>>147007530
>people still crying about this
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>>147007530
And finally got my 10th by a reverse gank. Thank fucking Christ nigger, that was worse than rosaria!
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>>147006840

Bump questions
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>>147004025
Is that what other people see when they fight straight swords? Wow.
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>>147007846
>bump
>>>/b/
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>>147006840
>on NG yes
>they are all past the dancer
>yes
>your upgrade is fine
>your level is fine, maybe 5 more but no more than that
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>>147007842
>>147007530
>dregs

Did something change? In Aldrich you should be ganking them desu.
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>>147007530
>he does aldritch at 80 with +10 weapons most likely
>he doesn't realize that he's been invading SL120 and beyond all this time
>he doesn't realize that the best way to level up aldritchfags is SL50 with +6 weapons
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>>147007751
Honestly I didn't think it was that hard tbph
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>>147008125
>strating gift: master key
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>>147004939
>invade
>host has two phantoms
>blue spawns in within seconds
>take a step back
>enter menu
>equip CCS
>apply carthus rouge
It really is that easy.
When all of your opponents are using trash like straightswords and not proper pvp setups, then even 4v1 isn't enough to make it fair.
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>>147007585
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EG1RB6LxU8Y
Literally a "Irithyll doll skip" youtube search
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>>147006840
You can respec or change appearance any time now. They patched it to not fail Sirris' questline.

Dancer is what you should do next if you're on your first run. Three optional areas are locked behind her.

+7 if you've been rationing titanite wisely, but otherwise all the chunks will be behind the Dancer.

60 is slightly low but not by much if you've been using the souls to buy other stuff. Just make sure you have a decent amount of VIG.
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>>147008125
It wasn't. You just had to clear the enemies and keep snipers in mind to inspect the platforms.
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>>147008067
It's always 3~4 passfriends against the poor Aldrich in my experience farming Dregs.
Still have 20+ to get
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>>147008242
Is this your fantasy of ds3 with poise or something?
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>>147008207
What did you mean by this
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>>147007530
>cheevos
fuck off with this bullshit. if you don't want to do the thing, don't fucking do it.
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>>147007846
The only optional areas are Consumed King's Garden > Graves, and Archdragon Peak, which you can't access until you kill Dancer and clear CKG anyway.
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>>147008091
Not that anon, but wait really? Shouldn't the formula go 80 + 20 + 16? Or is it stupid enough that it takes the 20% post addition?

Because that'd sure as fuck explain why all those cunts did so much more damage than me.
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>>147008335
>getting hit
Naw.

If you're going to face numerically disadvantaged situations, learn to use weapons overpowered enough to even the odds.
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>people complaining about Aldritch invasions

nigga that and Watchdog invasions are the two situations in the game where invaders actually aren't at that big of a disadvantage
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LKS or DS for quality?
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>>147008517
I hope you realize the invasion range information fromsoft originally posted was inverted, and they invade upwards 30 levels, not downwards
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>>147008332
That changed pretty fast then. I guess the word became that it was invasion town. When I did it, it was almost always 2v2 or 2v3 after blues.
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>>147008517
I haven't been here in over a month, and now I'm back and it's still all people seem to talk about.

Invaders are fucking babies, through and through.
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>>147008503
And how do you plan to not get hit but land damage when you got 5 guys spamming the shit out of their crissaegram straight swords?
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>>147008242
>trash like straightswords
Hey now, not all straight swords are trash.
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>>147008207
Yeah i used the master key, so
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So 3 was my first DS, don't know why everyone always oversells the difficulty. I died a lot, especially to a few bosses (fucking Sulyvahn) but it was piss easy once you know to roll at an angle towards the attack of 95% of enemies. I'm just glad I blundered into an okay STR build.

So what's the consensus on best Souls game? Demon's or DkS1? Or dare say 3?
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How effective would it be to infuse the barbed straight sword with a blood gem?

I just like the feeling of maximizing the bleed effect and it being named "Blood Barbed Sword"
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>>147008659
Have you never used the CCS?
Straightswords literally can't approach you without giving you free hits and rouge makes 2 combos a kill against most phantoms.

Just don't let yourself get surrounded or cornered and it's just a matter of not being shit.
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>>147008619
lol ds3 players can't even handle people 30 levels higher or a weapon upgrade or two out of range
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>>147008659
uh well typically you back off, kite them, they swing, miss, get split up, then you r1 them with the very long carthus curved sword
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>ganking in the crucifixion wood at SL130
>constantly invaded by good players actually trying to win and using top tier weapons, obscuring ring snipers, runners to the swamp who are trying to more or less cooperate with each other
>ganking at the pontiffs at the same level
>retards with 1000 hp, heavy weapon users, r1 mashing idiots, casters killing another reds by accident, literally not a single loss in 3 hours of constant fights where invaders keep numerical advantage
Why aldritchfags are so fucking bad?
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>>147008787
Not this shit again
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>>147008787
>don't know why everyone always oversells the difficulty
With the exception of two bosses, 3 is by far the easiest Souls game.

>So what's the consensus on best Souls game?
There is no consensus.

But it's Demon's.
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>>147008859
I'm guessing it starts arguments?
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>>147008858
Because it's also the dedicated fight club area.
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>>147008286

Do you suggest vig and damage stats only at this point? I spread myself too thin I think. If I respec and do like 40/40 str/dex then the rest into vig? I have no idea how to pace put my level ups. Right now it's like 25 vig and 25 str 25 dex
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>>147008845
What do you want me to do, backstab them?
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>>147008856
right so 1 long carthus scimitar with gimped health and estus
vs
5 guys surrounded by a blade flurry of phantom range

Im not understanding your math
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Is a +10 weapon at level 70 too op for Pontiff fights? I feel like people aren't hitting me quite as hard as I'm hitting them.
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>>147007530
Just farm them. Of you're going for GDS, I've farmed 9 dregs in an hour on two different characters.
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>>147008858
Nobody decent aldies at that high of an SL because it's a fightclub area and tonnes of retarded redditors host FCs while embered, turning every summon into a 6v1 gank
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>>147008951
>exception of two bosses
Pontiff and... dancer? Nameless?
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>>147009037
I've killed lvl 300s on a lvl 40
git gud
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>>147008951
>3 is by far the easiest Souls game.
this meme needs to die

I went back and played dark souls 1 after 3 and I was fucking shocked how easy it was. It was like enemies were moving in slow motion. I one shot gargoyles without taking a single hit. I haven't played demon's souls in a while, but I definitely don't remember it being that much harder than dark souls.
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>>147009164
Nameless and Spin Doctors, in my opinion.
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Is the idea that the Cathedral of the Deep is actually a re-purposed shrine to Caitha a popular idea? I keep seeing these covered statues that have depictions of some woman crying near the deacon's boss room as well as a couple on outside of the cathedral.
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>>147008808
hollow infusion is objectively better

bleed it trash, honestly haven't found a single use for it.
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>>147009191
>I beat gargs
wow impressive
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>>147009250
Blood increases the damage of bleed procs by a flat amount, so it would be great on any weapon with high enough natural bleed to be exceptionally good at applying the status without rouge.

Unfortunately, no such weapon exists
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I've decided to alter my character's appearance so that she'd have delicious, brown skin. However, I'm not able to get any good looking brown colors. Maybe it's just how it looks in the customization screen, but I'd rather not waste one out of five chances to respec (as I'll be changing around stats later). Any help?
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>>147009191
go fight biggie and smalls again and tell me what you think
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>>147009371
>Any help?
Stop liking shitskin you Plebeian fucktard.
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>>147009191
It is though. For most people that played 1, 2 and 3 in order, the latter is always going to be the easiest simply due to familiarity.
1 was difficult because for those that didn't play Demon's, you had to learn how to play.
2 was difficult because of things like ADP that still inflicted a learning curve even when you were a Souls Veteran™
After two (three for some) games, you kind of know the formula, skilled or not.
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>>146975969
how are you guys still playing this game, you like using dark sword 5 hours a day?
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>>147009237
>depictions of some woman crying
Are you talking about the leftmost one? It's a part of the Deep worship.
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>>147009463
>racism
>2016

Please escort your self back to /b/ you edgy preteen
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>>147009371
>Any help?
There is none to give. The character creator in all three games has never been good enough to get a satisfying brown color. Even Jubilant Catarina looks cartoonish. If it is possible, no one's spent enough time fiddling with sliders and RGB values to find it. The engine simply doesn't let you.
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>>147009036
Depends on what weapon you're using. 25 VIG is way too low though. Hit at least 30. STR and DEX both means that you'll be aiming for refined weapons or nothing really, which do shit out tons of damage but don't become amazing until around then, otherwise you can dump one stat and infuse heavy or sharp on an appropriate weapon. You may be overleveling END, which only needs to go up to 20 or so for one handed weapons to be comfortable, or you may be leveling VIT which is a garbage stat and should only be as high as necessary to carry rings, your weapon(s)/shield, and some armor that isn't literally rags.
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>>147009649
>>147009649
>back to /b/
Shit taste in shit skin and an idiot

5.6/10
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>>147009606
nah, there's a few uncovered depictions right outside the boss room. pic related
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>solo embered dried finger run
>get invaded in Cathedral
>sitting in Prayer position in front of the bonfire in the Cleansing Chapel as the invader comes in
>his shield is raised, he's clearly expecting shenanigans
>stand up, turn around, so a By My Sword salute
>he starts rolling around breaking seats, clearly looking for the phantoms
>nope, there's just me
>finally he goes on the offensive
>... with a running katana R1
>parry it with a medium shield, it was that obvious
>don't riposte, simply step back
>he collapses
>BCs out
What the hell just happened.
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>>147009237
>Caitha invented crying
Cool motif connection, but I don't think it's enough for a reasonable claim. Not on its own
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>>147009371
This is what my character currently looks like, by the way.
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>>147009348
Has anyone found out exactly how much the luck stat helps with bleed damage?

I've been maining the barbed sword for a while and still have 7 luck
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>>147009649
>the current year
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>>147009851
It doesn't increase bleed damage, it increased bleed buildup by a very small, marginal amount.
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Remember back in Des and Ds1 where the players weren't predominately twitch kids looking online to minmax and tryhard in every conceivable way?

That was nice
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>>147009289
>>147009383
There is not a single difficult boss in that entire game until O&S, and the regular enemies in dark souls 3 are 10 times more dangerous.

>>147009509
Dark Souls 3 is objectively harder than Dark Souls 1. Whether you've gotten more skilled is irrelevant. The game is drastically harder. People love to act cool by saying how much better and harder demon's souls was than dark souls, but it really wasn't. Not to that degree.
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>>147009896
Can't say I do.
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>>147009371
Only thing i could find. maybe it works in Das3?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uptOncxTFyk
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>>147009793
For some reason, all of the people who flaked out of invading for being too hard earlier have come back in droves, coinciding with all the really good invaders being tired of it. Most invaders are fucking garbage now.
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>>147009463
(You)
>>147009649
Don't even bother with him, anon.
>>147009678
Well, that's disappointing. Thank you anyway.
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>>147009896
I don't remember when they weren't trying to minmax or tryhard. I just remember when everything wasn't about checking JewTubers and streamers to see what this week's overpowered build was so you could copy it.
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>>147009840
>brown skin on that
She'll look like she had an accident with self-tanning cream.
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>>147009229
Probably the hardest ones. Nameless has pretty easy to predict attacks after the dragon, it's how I managed it.

Pontiff... how the fuck can you reliably kill him? I can never tell how long his sick breakdancing lasts, and by the time I realize it is he's starting another. Not to mention he has a dozen other moves, and a CLONE that can do anything he can. Makes me limp.
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>>147009748
I'm sorry you got your lunch money stolen from a black kid in highschool anon, it's ok shhhh no more tears now.
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>>147009945
>dark souls 3 standard enemies are 10 times more dangerous
(You)

>inb4 examples
Don't even try. There are dangerous outliers and that's all.
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>>147010000
That's what I meant

minmax to your heart's content, but you fucking do the minmaxing not some guy you copied from online
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>>147009945
The increase in the savagery of enemies and bosses is hugely overshadowed by how safe roll spamming and estus chugging are. 70% is easy as hell to stay under, the i-frames are practically non-stop, and you can chain them together forever due to how little stamina they take, followed by popping an estus that is twice as fast as any previous title and is back to healing you instantly, of which you can have 15 +10 flasks on NG.
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>>147010005
I kinda figured, but I wanted to try anyway since I am a fan of delicious, brown skin. Oh well, I'll stick to what I have.

Care to rate her? Not fashion, just looks.
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Why do you spend hours crafting the perfect waifu when the models are lifeless nobody except /dsg/ is going to notice or give a shit?
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>>147010084
>Pontiff... how the fuck can you reliably kill him?
I hate typing but if you're really curious go check out ENB's first playthrough's episode in which he kills Pontiff. He says everything I would.
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>>147010115
>projecting
>garbage taste
So YOU developed a fetish for black people because they beat you up and you have a humiliation fetish

God, you're pathetic.
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I'm looking to get my friend hooked but being the casual he is he doesn't like games that are to difficult. Which dark souls is the easiest? Inb4
>implying any dark souls is difficult
I know but the meme doesn't die.
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>>147009945
>Dark Souls 3 is objectively harder than Dark Souls 1. Whether you've gotten more skilled is irrelevant.
There is absolutely no way for you to determine this. Difficulty isn't some numeric value the devs set when making the game. Difficulty literally cannot be gauged without keeping one's skill level in mind
It's all subjective. If a hundred new players say it's the hardest game they've ever played and a hundred Souls Veterans™ say it's the easiest of the series, then they both have to be right.
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>>147009818
Well she is the goddess of tears. I think it makes sense to have depictions of her crying to drive home that fact to adherents. Also, why would various statues of her be covered up by these red drapes if not to hide what the cathedral's original object of worship was. I think there's more to this area other than Miyazaki's newfound obsession with eldritch themes.
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>>147009896
Predominately? Yes.

They always existed, but stage 1 of the cancer was PtDE and stage 2 was vaati. The cult of youtube pretty much exploded at both those stages.
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>>147010128
EVERY SINGLE ENEMY IS MORE DANGEROUS. Even the basic fucking hollow soldiers are so much more dangerous. The lothric knights are worse than either the balder knights or the black knights. Every single enemy in dark souls 3 has a five hit combo with mixups. To say that the enemies are harder in dark souls 1 is absolutely fucking INSANE.
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>>147010213
let's put this in perspective

anything under 70% equip load in Ds3 has a roll that is as good as fast roll was in ds1 and then on top of that theres no ending animation and you can spam it

then in Ds3, if you are under the effects of a lloyds and try to drink you have the uhhh lol why isn't my drink working animation right. Well that animation is half the time a single estus drink was in Ds1, in other words healing is unpunishable
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>>147010242
I craft husbandos in about an hour max with NPC bases

I've also got nothing else to do and anything that I actually do doesn't matter, same goes for you anon

At least I'm open about it
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>>147009725

So hypothetically I can go: vigor to 30 and dex or strength to 40, make a weapon sharp or heavy then when I have enough points match the stats at 40 and make it refined. Gotcha. Right now I have 25 vig, 20 end, 23 str, 24 dex, and two random points put into fai and int bringing them each to 10 for carthus flame weapon and I'm using murakumo. At this point in the game do you suggest fixing the allocation now or just pumping str and dex as I go and getting them to 40 in the current distribution?

I kinda like the idea of pumping just str or dex for now then matching them but idk...
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>>147010302
pft talking about garbage taste while posting Overwatch
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>>147010465
Vincent your husbando looks like the default female character with different hair
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>>147009970
Thanks, anon. I'll try it out.
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>>147010084
As it turns out, you can destroy the clone. It has way less HP than him. Otherwise stick to his magic sword side and the turning punish attack will miss a lot of the time, so have faith and count his swings if you don't want to have to use your best judgement, then roll INTO everything.
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>>147010318
Except there are objective ways to measure and compare difficulty.

-penalty of death
-ease of leveling up
-severity of status effects
-PvP and its implications and mechanics
-Co-op and its implications and mechanics
-enemy placement, numbers, damage, health, attack variance, etc.
-same for bosses
Etc.
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>>147010294
Nice, thanks
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>>147010213
I didn't mention the other thing I noticed, which is that enemies do maybe a 3rd as much overall damage to you in dark souls 1 than in 3. 25% is pretty easy to stay under considering that endurance is linked to equip burden and enemies don't do shit for damage. Chugging is slower, yeah, but the enemies are SO SLOW that it doesn't matter at all. You can get 20 +7 flasks in dark souls 1.
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>>146981727
I play DS1 and 2 with mouse/kb
DS2 is good out of the box, DS1 requires DSFix (and heavy tweaking for nice graphics, which are incomparably better now) and mouse fix; all this can be achieved in a short time with google, it's worth it
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I'm at like sl 70. Does leveling up increase my change of BOTDM of decrease it at this point?
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>>147010340
Also, I realize that the claim is a bit subject to skepticism. It would be cool if you actually found Tears of Denial or Caressing Tears in the area, but yeah, my claim is a bit flimsy. I mean, they could easily just be depictions of a younger Rosaria, Gwynevere, or a Firekeeper.

I just think its interesting that you only ever see this statue without it being covered up are places where the average Deep follower wouldn't be able to see them (right outside of the Deacon's boss room as well as the balcony where you get the Saint's Bident
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>>147010427
Yes and no but it's not in a good way. Things are harder cause player health is restricted big time in ds3 with the 27 vig cap, no more 50 vit health dump builds. There's no poise for the player, the amount of damage that those enemies do is astronomical, and shields get broken in 2 seconds

Then to make up for all that they make rolls retardedly good and chugging nearly instant

the slower paced sword and board was better than this not sure if Ds or BB limbo, in any situation you had the choice to block, dodge, attack, or heal and what you picked mattered because if you picked the wrong one at the wrong time you were punished. Now you spam rolls, spam heals, and spam r1
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>>147010238
go to a place like undead settlement where it has better lighting
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>>147010449
The roll speed thing is a false equivalence because in dark souls 1, endurance increases both equip burden and stamina, while in dark souls 3, vitality is basically a dump stat. If people had to fastroll in dark souls 3, every build would be crippled.

The lloyds thing is irrelevant to pve difficulty.
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>>146988186
Stop posting Luci's waifus, fuck.
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>>146984938
What is warmth. Fuck faith
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>>147010427
>Deserters
not dangerous
>Red Lothric Knights
not dangerous
>Blue Lothric Knights
not dangerous
>Blue Winged Angel men
not dangerous
>Hollows
not dangerous
>Hollowed Thieves
not dangerous
>Pus of Man
not dangerous
>Ghrus
not dangerous
>Embered Ghru
not dangerous
>yappy pyromancy birds
not dangerous
>Carthus Swordsman
not dangerous
>Skeleton
not dangerous
>mimics
not dangerous
>basilisk
not dangerous
>pike hollows
not dangerous
>dogs
not dangerous
>Red eyed knights
not dangerous
>Crucified Hollow
not dangerous
>Deacon
not dangerous
>Fanatic hooded woman (suicide bombers and such)
not dangerous
>Fat deacon ladies with spiked maces
not dangerous
>Cathedral Knight
Somewhat dangerous
>Garden Knight
Somewhat dangerous
>Snekmen with hatchet and parrying shield
not dangerous
>Snekmen with greatshield
not dangerous
>Snekmen with brigand daggers
Dangerous, but only in archdragon peak
>Snekmen with flail axes
Dangerous, but there's like two at best in the game
>Mendicants, if you can call them 'standard'
not dangerous
>Cemetary of Ash hollows
not dangerous
>scholar hollows before crystal sage
not dangerous
>Great machete enemies
not dangerous
>Undead Settlement workers
not dangerous
>ANY thralls
not dangerous
>halberd hollows
not dangerous
>greataxe hollows
not dangerous
>silver knights
not dangerous
>slimes
not dangerous
>giants
not dangerous
>aldrich faithful NPC enemies
not dangerous
>pontiff knights
not dangerous
>irithyll hollows
not dangerous
>spider ladies
not dangerous
>Monstrosities of Sin
not dangerous
>jailers
not dangerous
>rats
Somewhat dangerous
>Fire Witch
not dangerous

There's hardly any threats in this game even if you're leveled to the area appropriately. In Dark Souls 1 if you're leveled to the area appropriately then enemies will kick your ass pretty easily.
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This was fun to make.
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Post your character, anons.
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>>147011305
>having fun
fucking leave
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>>147011231
I dunno, never enjoyed pyromancies for some reason. Also warmth can heal your opponent too.
>tfw miracles are the best, just destroyed an invader twice in Iron Keep
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>>147010880
I really don't know what to tell you. I went back and played dark souls 1 and the slower paced gameplay made it so ridiculously fucking easy to me. If they brought that back for Dark Souls 3, I can only imagine I'd have found it incredibly boring. Again, it was like the game was moving in slow motion, so I always had time to make the right choice.

And honestly? A lot of the dark souls 3 techniques pretty much just worked. I found myself spamming r1 so much more often, and it actually worked better than all the shit I usually did.
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>>147011320
What did she see to make her have that look on her face?
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>>147011305
Nice work.
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>>147010427
3's enemies deal more damage and have punishing moves but there's absolutely no way they are wholesomely harder. Dealing with PvE has NEVER been easier even if you're leveled to the area in 3. In 1 Balder Swag knights would fucking destroy you, rats too. The caster and room full of hollows in the parish would tear your ass apart without blinking an eye. In 3 you could easily just roll through into the other room, create a bottleneck, and walk backwards to chug while they stand there.
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>>147011263
I have rarely seen a post that was such an absurd waste of time to so blatantly prove absolutely nothing.
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>>147011123
That shit makes no sense my man

everybody in ds3 does have fast roll, and it's spammable fast roll. You mention the splitting of end benefits into end and vit being a factor at play here but obviously it's not, how many people do you see in ds3 spending points in vit? None because armor has dminishing returns out the ass, there's no poise, and each point spent in it is a fraction of the effectiveness vs a point in other stats

Look on the bright side, in your mistaken attempt to refute the problems of 3 we were able to identify what's wrong with how equip load got split into its own stat in a game where armor is essentially just fashion
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>>147011305
sekushii pozu~
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>>147011612
>Balder Swag knights
nigger, BLOCK THEN HIT THEM. They can't do shit. if you try to do that with lothric knights, they will just KEEP HITTING YOU

>The caster and room full of hollows
nigger, POKE AND BACK UP. They can't do SHIT.

This is all just some fucking first playthrough shit. Go back and actually PLAY dark souls 1, and tell me that these things are tough.
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>>147011320
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>>147011616
It proves that the vast majority of enemies, recurring enemies, or 'standard for this area' enemies pose no threat to the player because they're incredibly easy to defeat. Even if the player is leveled appropriately for them to be a challenge in any way, you can still destroy them without caring at-fucking-all. In Dark Souls 1 being leveled appropriately while coming up on the Parish didn't mean shit to the enemies or the Balder Knights, or Berenike Knights.

One of the more critical changes in enemy behaviour over time is increased scripted encounters and the reduction of poise on almost every enemy. A Berenike Knight can kill you in 1-3 hits without staggering between attacks while a few quick R1s will put a Red Lothric Knight down after they shieldbash once.
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Can finally run DaS3 now that I have a 1070

But will I have fun?
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>>147010931
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>>147011834
The effectiveness of shields is another thing. You can break guard extremely easily but all enemies that wield shields will just hold them up like retards while you use the series' most broken roll.

In 1 heavier enemies won't give a fuck if you hit their shields, in 3 you can break open Havel in ADPeak without running low on stamina.
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>>147011707
You can't fucking read.

By fast roll, I mean fast roll. I mean the fastest roll. If you're going to insist on confusing the terminology just to be a pedantic faggot, kill yourself.

In dark souls 1, everybody built their characters to fast roll, and because end governed stamina and equip load, that was fine. In dark souls 3, stamina and equip load are split into 2 stats, which is fine because midrolling in dark souls 3 is good enough. The effect is basically the same thing. Everybody has the same, good roll.

Now I'm waiting for your retarded response where you again prove you can't fucking read.
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>>147011462
>Again, it was like the game was moving in slow motion, so I always had time to make the right choice.

Exactly, you have the time to react and different options to use according to your situation each with their own strengths and drawbacks

In 3 your dodge, heal, and attack options all got buffed into the stratosphere particularily dodge and heal, and then shields got the BB treatment. So to compensate for the player's insane evasion and healing options they had to make enemies these infinite stam machine gun attackers with the damage of a nuke to pose any actual threat to the player.

Instead of being slower and more methodical, and punishing you for making the wrong choice of action, Ds3 is this inconsistent mish mash of DS sword and board with BB flippy dippy speed
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>>147011774
naisu bodii~
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>>147012185
>In dark souls 1, everybody built their characters to fast roll

That's not true at all, and even if it was all 3 weight classes had the trade off of more armor and poise or an additional weapon or two at the cost of mobility and dodge strength

You're the one that can't read or put a coherent thought together buddy
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>>147012003
"heavier enemies"? what? I broke plenty of enemies guards with r1 spam in dark souls 1. either way, it doesn't matter because they're so fucking SLOW, that you can just wait for them to stop guarding, bait their attack, and hit them in the MASSIVE opening. In dark souls 3, you wait, they attack, then they follow up with a combo every fucking time.
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>>147012185
>end governed stamina and equip load, that was fine
>stamina and equip load are split into 2 stats, which is fine
>The effect is basically the same thing

And you have the confidence to call other people stupid

Unbelievable
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>>147012418
In Dark Souls 3, you wait, they attack, you dodge to the side and then R1 spam them to death because the only enemies remotely dangerous in this game have poise or a broken gimmick.
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>>147011493
you
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>>147012201
>Ds3 is this inconsistent mish mash of DS sword and board with BB flippy dippy speed

As much as I enjoyed the speed of Bloodborne's combat, that's something that should have stayed in BB. I've really not even touched a shield since they seem to be kind of pointless in this game when rolling just seems so much more effective than before.
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>>147011883
Depends on what you play these games for. I had a blast, but I care about gameplay first and foremost. Some people cry about the homages. Others about having their online crutches being taken away. Ignore them and try it yourself.
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>>147012381
Literally everyone fastrolled for pvp. Midrolling got you killed and fatrollers were gimmicks or havel cosplays and the like.
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Brehs
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>>147011948
I think she'd look good with brown skin
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>>147012553
she looks in love ew
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>>147012381
Maybe if you only attended /dsg/ FCs where all everyone did was try to avoid being meta by doing shitty gimmicks or /fa/shion that was stupidly heavy

Go to Townshit or anywhere else and you'll get DWGR or fastrollers in FaP+Havel's ring setup
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>>147012581
You keep saying that but it's not true

You contradicted yourself before and seem to be an idiot who has no idea what they're talking about, just stahp it
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>>147012794
Implying same person.
Look up any ds1 pvp video.
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>>147009649
>I MEAN COME OOOOOON, IT'S THE CURRENT YEAR
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>>147012794
>I've never been invaded or PvP'd
There is literally no reason, especially within the meta and overpowered state of Havel's and Ring of Favor and Protection, to NOT fastroll in 1.
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>>147012737
>Doing 120 pvp in burg

Well yeah no shit you're gonna run into meta duel faggots there, you should avoid that area like the plague and do invasions like a normal person
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>>147012496
I really don't know what you're even trying to say. In dark souls 1, everybody fast rolled. In dark souls 3, everybody midrolls. That's because in dark souls 1, it was easy to keep equip load under 25%, whereas in dark souls 3, it's not. However, it doesn't make much difference, because the midroll in dark souls 3 is much better than the midroll in dark souls 1.

Where is the specific problem with that logic? Are you just also, incapable of reading?

>>147012545
Yeah you just described pve in souls games, good job.
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>Ways to be a dick in DeS invasions:
>Blessed Regen
>Baby's Nail / Death Cloud / Kunai
>Makoto
>Stacked Regen
>Acid Cloud + Scraping Spear
>Stormruler
>Twinked weapons
>Light Weapon pushlock, 2kat pushlock, eternal warrior's headbutt stunlock
>Backstabbing / pushing enemies around, healing them with Relief to full
>God's Wrath at Old Monk
>Cloak fatal estoc
>99 Darkmoon, New Moon, etc

>DaS
>Dark Hand
>Poison + toxic + lloyds talismans
>TWoP
>Force / Wrath of the Gods
>Chameleon Dragon King Greataxe
>Twinked weapons and armor, max humanity
>Greatbows

>DaS2
>Corrosive Urns, Acid Surge
>Poison in general
>Axes at low SM
>PWoP
>Twinked weapons
>Greatbows
>Warmth
>Chameleon + two-handed greatshield

>DaS3
>
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>>147012921
>>147012914
Townshit is Oolacile by the by.

>>147012958
>I'll change what I'm saying to win
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>>147012870
I've played the game more than you and played more than you've watched on youtube so I'll pass on that one bruv

Saying midroll gets you killed and fatroll is a gimmick, whatever nigga I'll just sit with my shield up and walk around, good luck flipping around and getting a backstab on a guy who doesn't let you do it
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>>147012794
Everybody fastrolled in dark souls 1 unless they were a noob or they were being gimmicky. Denying this just proves that you were completely oblivious to dark souls 1 pvp.
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>>147012914
Yeah no reason besides the additional poise, huge armor bonuses, and giant weapon options

oh wait that's a bunch of reasons..... fugg
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>>147011948
she looks pretty good to me

also how did that hollow get up there???
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>>147013047
>I'll change what I'm saying to win
I said EXACTLY the same thing. It's not my fault you can't FUCKING read. Moron.
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>>147013208
>heavy armor and fastrolling are mutually exclusive
See: Giantdads and Havelmoms
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>>147011948

This is the brownest I've ever gotten on any char before giving up entirely on this shitty creator.

The lighting in most zones also doesn't help.
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>>147010532
That sounds pretty decent actually. VIG is just a thing you'll need pretty quickly because the damage spikes again after Irithyll. 30/30 STR/DEX is where a lot of refined weapons start to take off into the stupid zone, but until then 40 of one on heavy/sharp is better, yes.
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>Yuria The Witch

i have obtained waifu
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>Court Sorcerer's Staff+10, 60 INT, Young Dragon Ring, Bellowing Dragoncrest Ring, Scholar's Candlestick, Crown of Dusk
>Crystal Soul Spear a phantom
>1k damage, doesn't die

Alright that's it, back to melee I go. What a farce.
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>>147013106
In your lvl 120 duel club maybe since everybody ahd the points to spare to dump end

I stick to invading and let me tell you nobody fast rolls
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>>147013350
>I don't participate in the part of the game where what you're saying is true, so it's false
Well it was all just one big misunderstanding then, isn't it?
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>>147013274
in the case of giantdad their weapon can be reaction rollstabbed so them having fast roll really doesn't make a difference
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>>147013208
>Elite Knight Set
>Fapping and Havel's
>good armor + ways to outdo the weight while also increasing END for stamina and equipload
>fastroll with all the important weapons
EZ.

*fastrolls behind you in full elite knight set with 99 humanity and chaos zweihander*
nothing personal hombre....
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>>147013467
I'm misunderstanding why anyone would subject themselves to 120 pvp in these games instead of invading people at midgame
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>>147013350
>I invaded noobs in havel cosplay and they were too dumb to backstab me
good for you
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>>147010768
>a 3rd as much overall damage

Did we play the same game?
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>>146975969
http://www.cybertronpc.com/customkititems.asp?ic=&kc=gmbg860x0025bl&Group=PLAY&Cat=GAMERS&iQty=1&Source=&config=&view=details

How well would this pc run dark souls 3? Ive been thinking of getting a gaming pc, and this one seems pretty good.
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>>147013648
>invade someone at midgame in dark souls 1
>let's say, what, Anor Londo?
>appropriate level range for the rodeo
>fastrolling niggers everywhere
>unless you mean that one Black Iron Tarkus cosplay I came across
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>>147013682
They're all actually dumb enough TO backstab me

you think you're the first person to have tried that shit? get the fuck outta here that shit is getting counter stabbed every single time
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What was your first ever build in a Souls game?

In Demons I was a knight who used the soul arts to enhance his swordsmanship via enchantments.
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>>147013648
i liked low level twinks like you faggot, it was always a pleasure to get invaded by you in ng+ while taking a stroll with my SL125 with 2k hp, you always were so adorable in your blatant bs fishing attempts
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>>146997895
It takes skill and diligence to be a twink. It took me around 2000 hours to make the perfect character in ds2. Literally 80+ characters dead and burried to make The 5th Taco. Drop 50 souls to the sm system or up grade the wrong shit= a droped character. Plus all the experence and knowledge that is acculmated only through countless hours. It took me 2000 fucking hours to make a level 55, full and fully up graded havel with a +10 black katanna, +3 clorthanary ring, royal soldier ring, southern ritural band and agape ring without droping a soul or buying an unnessary item. Being a twink is skill those that cant twink need to get gud.
I would still be playing the 5th taco today but the ending of her was poetic to say the least. The last boss i never killed was the darklurker. When i did after many tries i went back to majula put on the gear i won, thought to my self "ive done, seen and killed every maner of man and beast in this game. Time to fucking sleep." the next day i tried loging on and my hdd died. Canonically she went hollow after compleating her last task and thus ended my ds2 career. I fucking miss you.
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>>147013794
>mfw 713 getting constant invasions in Anor Londo
haha
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>>147013730
you're just making shit up you will never find people at midgame anor londo in a fast roll setup. maybe 1% of people will be fast rolling
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>>147013335
Why not soul stream them? And use wa?
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>>147013695
I don't think I ever got hit by that.

>>147013770
yeah you're real cool because you pile on armor and poise and oneshot people who are trying to progress through pve by themselves

I guess that's why you don't like dark souls 3 right?
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>Bow in front of the Firekeeper
>She bows back
>Your heads bump into each other

M-moe
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>>147013936
>you're j-just l-lying
by the time you reach anor londo you can have DWGR, Wolf's Ring, Havel's Ring, RoFaP, any important weight:ratio armor, any important weapons for lightweight builds that aren't tracers, etc.
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>>147013794
I'd stomp your ass, I've come across two other players in my invasions post-Ds3 launch who actually have a clue how to play and you're here in /dsg/ posting reaction images so I know you fucking suck

Honestly I'd just wish you were a higher level so I could refill all my consumables with the lazy mans walk to chester
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>>147013936
dude what the fuck are you TALKING about?

where are these fucking people coming from with these ridiculous ideas about dark souls 1? In the pre-dark souls 2 threads your dumbass would have been laughed out the fucking building.
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>>147014167
oh please show the build you are invading with, i want to learn your ways master
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>>147011320
He ain't much to look at, but he's what I ended up with.
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>>147014072
I'm invading nothing but people who are trying to summon people to fraud O&S for them, you think they'll have any of that good gear in their setup let alone be able to use it in a semi-functional way? Give me a break
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>>147014062
>Wave at her.
>She bows
>End up petting her hair
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>>147013779
DaS2, sorcery build. I was really bad. I thought the proper way to play was to put a point in every stat as I leveled up.
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>>147014167
So are you just a johnny come lately who never played the game when it was fresh, and so have no fucking clue what the actual meta is? is that it?
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>>147014258
Yeah let me just share my build with you so you can copy it, keep dreaming fag
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>>147014263
MY NAME IS INIGO MONTOYA
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>>147014327
>t-there's n-no way!!!!!!!
You're fucking retarded and just waving away with "Can't happen"

If you mean genuine noobs, maybe they wouldn't have gotten *everything* presented on that list, but to anyone not mentally disabled when going through that area they'll pick up some or all of those items.
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>>147014420
I am the meta, shit I'm so meta that I have to intentionally gimp my builds because it's so unfair for the other person and boring to me winning uncontested nonstop
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Do blues still lose concords if I BC out?
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>>147014485
They'd have all that shit if they were playing with a guide but if that's the case they won't stand a chance at beating another player in pvp so what does all that gear matter anyway?
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>>147014468
What. He looks nothing like Mandy Patinkin.
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>>147011382
See the 5th taco post. People would get pissed when you would use warmth at a low level with havels. When you kneel to cast heals they know whats happening and attack. When you cast a pyro it could be a fire ball or the explosion or warmth. They tend to roll to dodge an apparent attack and when its not they stop being cautious and close in and then turns into a dps race. Which is death against a twink. Magic at higher levels is good but at low levels its a hindrance.
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>>147014630
Yes.
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>>147014703
You underestimate the power of gear in 1, then, faggot. Not only that but to anyone making a new character build and going through Anor Londo they'll not only have the items on that list they need, but they'll also be in a way better position to kill some faggot invader.
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Any ideas for a friendly grape invader? I was thinking Friendly Fred but maybe it's too on the nose.

I may or may not murder the host's phantoms when he isn't looking.
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>>147013709
Anyone?
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>>147014812
Right now I'm pvping at 600k souls, and my sunlight spear deals 1200 damage if it connects.I only stop to heal if they run away like madmen to chug down a few estus, I try to not run away to heal and use consumables even when I get invaded. Yes, it's really obvious when I stop to heal, so I'm not going to do it on their faces.
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>>147014905
>they'll not only have the items on that list they need, but they'll also be in a way better position to kill some faggot invader.
Then I must be even better than I think cause I'm stomping everyone in this area
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>>146999421
>Fuck off pupper
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>>147015163
>>147015163
>>147015163
NEW THREAD
>>147015163
>>147015163
>>147015163
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>start up ds3 and load my character
>alt tab to look something up
>forget I have the game running and I'm embered for like an hour
>still alive and not invaded at all

ded gayme
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>>147015026
madman hahaha
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>trying to invade as a watch dog of farron
>literally takes 20 minutes to be summoned
>tfw it's an organized gank squad of 3 summons and an invader
>nothing but fugs, swordspear, chaos bed, dark sword R1 spam, and caestus parrying
>host has obscuring ring on and is hiding somewhere while his henchman do his dirty work
>resort to throwing dunk pies at them until I finally die

This community sometimes, I fucking swear.
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>>147015256
I don't think that would be a very good name.
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>>147015080
post Anor Londo Dark Souls 1 invasion build then fagbag
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>>147013335
is it that hard to pull a crystal estoc out and finish the phantom?
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>>147015246
this general moves fast as fuck for a dead game

>109 posters
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>>147015317
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>>147015306
Invade at 120 +10
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>>147015531
I gave a seed and forcefully co-op twice before, was fun as fuck.

Why do we get no souls for seeded enemies?
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>>147015531
I already know how painful it is and how 99% of players won't get it.
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>>147015246
The invasion cooldown is indefinite and only goes away if you summon, invade or use the dried finger.
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>>147015068
Thats fine im not bashing you. The only magic thats hits non noobs are the soulmasses. I have never gotten hit by any projectile other than that since i got good and even then the user had to serpentine in a queer way to throw off the timeing. Its just at low levels, which i have been striving to optimize, the allocation of levels that would need to be put into magic and attunment are better put into the soft caps of indurence, vit and dex.
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>>147015703
Wat. Really ? Even if you teleport back to firelink then go back to the area ?
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>>147015918
Yes, only three ways to reset it. Finger, red eye orb or summoning. That's why you meet so many gankers. There are dozens of people who did the "true dark souls experience" as you faggots like to call it, but only got invaded once because they didn't know better.
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