Eve Online General /eog/

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OFFICIAL LIST OF WORST TYPES OF PLAYERS IN EVE:

1. Nullsec botters/ratters/mission runners
2. Highsec botters/ratters/mission runners
3. Nullbabby napfest blobbers
4. Lowsec 'elite' link-alt slave set pvpers
5. 'hisec pvp'
6. Miners
7. Industrialists
8. Traders
9. Scammers

9001. Honorabru solo roamers

90001. Small gang NPC sov nullsec/lowsec

900001. C5-6 WH pvpers

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>he isn't going for perfect engi skills
s h i t t e

>>146659180

In what meme build do you even use all that sp, that couldn't have been put to better use elsewhere?

>>146659439
All of these skills are relevant to a normal pvper

>Amarr

>>146659532

Relevant, after everything else is trained.

>>146661065
Yeah who even needs CPU management

>>146661140

Shield tankers, but who gives a shit about them?

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>>146660718

[Golem]
Ballistic Control System II
Ballistic Control System II
Ballistic Control System II
Ballistic Control System II

Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
Caldari Navy X-Large Shield Booster
Large Micro Jump Drive
Target Painter II
Target Painter II
Target Painter II

Cruise Missile Launcher II, Mjolnir Cruise Missile
Cruise Missile Launcher II
Cruise Missile Launcher II
Cruise Missile Launcher II
Bastion Module I
Small Tractor Beam II
Salvager II
Salvager II

Large Warhead Rigor Catalyst II
Large Warhead Flare Catalyst II

not so sure about this desu senpai

>>146663145

pith b-type xlarge is cheap enough. What are you going to do with this fit anyway?

>>146663424
solo pvp, senpai

>>146663482

>no neut
>no point
>no cap injector
>no cloak

>>146663567
its a hard mode solo pvp fit desu

>>146663424
level 4s. i swapped out a tp for missile guidance, a bcs for damage control, and 1 adaptive invuln for em ward

seems like it'll be k

>>146664007

Just drop the fucking overpriced cn xlarge for a pith x-type or cheapo dg.

>>146664642
i've had the booster sat in a station for fucking ages, and most of the others put me just over cpu

>>146664753

So don't fit t2 everything. Get a cheapo faction painter. As a bonus you apply better with it.

>>146663567
>>146663424

how would one go about fitting a phoenix for solo pvp?

>>146666481

Smartbombs, hulltank.

>>146666481
Go ask the Lord's Servant, he invented solo pvp.

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>Afterlife attempt to use a barghest fleet doctine
>Goes as bad as you would expect

Why would you even bring barghests when you know sniffles/pm are going to bring nightmares and remove any range control over the battlefield. Not only that but CO2 are using T3's and they will tank cruise missiles no problem.

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>missile based fleet comp
>with a Pirate faction BS that doesn't have any tank bonuses whatsoever

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>>146671448

https://zkillboard.com/kill/54811731/

What the fuck am I even looking at.

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>afterlife thought they could go up agains the number 1 ranked Zkill pvper and escape alive

>>146672106
They're just thinking on another level. They can even fiewall themselves with those smartbombs. truly next wave thinking.

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Remember, you are here forever.
And now you don't get your PLEX money back.

>shit citizen

>>146671792
worked well for dunking lzhk in their home

>>146673364
How does this game even stay alive?

>>146673364
are you the same person that brings up star citizen from time to time?
i havent spent any money on that game, never planned to

>>146679038
no

>page 10

How do we make this game not dead?
Should we make more supers and titans?

>>146683280
You had your chance with walking in stations

>>146683280
t2 faction ships

>>146683506
like new factions?
or just more of the current factions?
Like battlecruisers and destroyers.

>>146683280
You get serpentis supers in two days.

>>146684357
We could add more
are you buying one anon?

>>146684525
I dunno about anon, but I want one when they hit the LP store. Before that they're gonna be wayyyy too expensive desu senpai

reminder that you can hide posts

>>146684525
I'm only buiying an Angel dread when they add it so I can warp as fast as a battleship on roams.

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>>146658956
>6. Miners
>miners
>not the worst

>>146683639
e.g. tech 2 machariel

>>146686903
epic

>>146683506
AT ships.

>>146687182
Interbus faction space trucker special ships

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I just want a JF Bowhead.

>>146686903
Eat dick fucboi mining is fun.

QUESTION

My character has 43mil sp so I get 400k sp from injectors until 50 mil sp. Does the injected sp count towards my cap as soon as I inject it? or do I actually have to apply it?

Can I inject sp until I naturally hit 50 mil and then I'll have a fuck ton of sp built up?

>>146690582
you can inject past 50mil but if you have 50mil applied you'll be penalized

>>146690827
Does it retroactively reduce my injected sp after 50mil?

>>146659180
>tfw got nanite skills before cap emission or thermodynamics
I have lost control of my training queue. Send help.

>>146673684
What an impressive accomplishment.

>>146687925
JFs removed when

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>>146694858
When the Prophesy of His return is fulfilled.

>>146693998
>tfw All Combat Drones: V before having thermodynamics injected

Get on my level

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>>146695771

Tfw never used meme combat drugs.

>>146696409
Why? they're really good.

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>small gang forms up
>somebody asks if he can join tengoo

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>that guy who can't bring a tp v bellicose

anything on the 07 show?

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that feel when I played for fun for years and years and when it stopped being fun I RMT'd like crazy and made thousands selling accounts and isk and CCP never did shit to me

[email protected]

I'm hoping this game might hook me in, I find myself with lots of freetime now.

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can't decide if astero is cute

>>146701342
sent

>>146694858
Fuck off nigger

>>146666481
Citadel cruise missiles

Guidance computers and target painters

Don't use citadel torpedoes they're shit

Don't use rapid tops because they're also shit

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>>146704068

pls stop posting in /eog/, /gerg/fags

>a 2 mil frigate could target paint better than my phoenix, but I'm going to remove all my tank and fit them anyway

>>146704314
You armor tank the Phoenix because you need maximum application in your mid slots

There's a reason Lord servant did that

>>146704435
but you're responding to a post which explains why that's retarded

>>146704509
And he's flat out wrong because Lord servant doesn't rely on others to have that for him because he needs to direct for himself

>>146704612
you could literally recruit an hour old newfag from highsec and it would enormously improve your phoenix fit. get a trial alt or something. doing something totally retarded because 'muh solo' is so dumb. when you're removing capital damage/tank mods for mods you can fit to any ship in the game, you are shit at eve

>>146704836
>all fleets have unlimited pilots. if they dont, make alt accounts to be true super pvper!!!
go fuck yourself

>>146704836
And if he dies you lose 50% of your application

You don't rely on other people because they are volatile

>>146704983
>unlimited

it's a capital ship, and I'm saying you should bring 2 pilots rather than 1 pilot. you should go fuck yourself instead desu. your meme videos are shit and lords servant is also shit

>>146705019
yeah and how much of your application do you lose if your untanked dread dies

a vigil can paint from 100-150km no problem

>>146705198
>yeah and how much of your application do you lose if your untanked dread dies
its not untanked have you even seen his fits?

>a vigil can paint
it only applies out to 80, it only targets out to 80. It has no cap, its fucking pointless. He uses his own webs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MkiipNZpSc0

how do you make dank isk

>>146704781
>>Have to be the one to tell the others in the hole not to undock for the day as a safety protocol

Top lel, and yet you think you're actually good.

>hurr if you don't play the game you can't die

>>146705425
>he uses his own webs

another thing you could pull off the ship and put on a more reasonable subcap for massive increases in damage and tank

>solo
>fleet window with a bunch of people in it

lol

>only applies out to 80

kys

>only targets out to 80

fit modules to your ship

>cap

mfw capbabbies literally can't manage flying a vigil

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>talk about solo pvp
>lmao just bring ur alts xDD

>>146705737
>another thing you could pull off the ship and put on a more reasonable subcap for massive increases in damage and tank
They're all volatile, its about being self reliant which he is. He doesn't want to rely on others because if they EVER can't apply or die or leave or what ever his dread is literally unusable. You can't shut off or get rid of the dread's webs and painters but you can sure as hell get rid of someone's vigil or huginn.

>>146705894
it's a ship designed for killing structures and capitals, and you're giving me shit for suggesting bringing a 5 mil frigate along to support it. pretending that these fags are trve solo and don't have a fleet up with loads of alts out is hilarious

>>146705949
the vigil is retard-proof. I mean a huginn is as well, but there are lots of ultra retards who can fuck it up and die, so whatever

>>146706368
>the vigil is retard-proof. I mean a huginn is as well, but there are lots of ultra retards who can fuck it up and die, so whatever
ITS FUCKING SOLO YOU SHIT

you don't bring your friends and alts. He has more than enough tank and he needs all the self application he can get,

>>146706602
>He has more than enough tank

yeah for the engagement picked out in the video. if you have more tank and damage and application, you can take harder fights

>its fucking solo
>Fleet (15)

I know it's solo. you aren't explaining why it's solo, when it being solo is so retardedly bad and ends up in a laughable gimpy trash fit

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>solo
>with alts

>>146706864
>yeah for the engagement picked out in the video. if you have more tank and damage and application, you can take harder fights
SOLO

>hurr 15 in fleet
none of them were on field

God you're retarded and don't know the purpose of the video

>all these poorfags mad they can't multibox a small army with every links in the game, ewar of every kind, logi, cap ransfers, titan buffs and jita whores to distract the enemy.

>>146707052
>none of them were on field
so he could have links up?
scouts or maybe even dictors bubbling gates.
Too bad, not solo.
Next time don't be on a fleet shitter.

>>146707260
>so he could have links up?
>he has 15 links ships in system

>umm lemme shift the goal posts

>>146707052
>SOLO

you're retarded though. it's an extremely bad ship for solo

>none of them were on field

I'm certain they'd be showing up if he was in any trouble at all

>God you're retarded and don't know the purpose of the video

it's to make bads think another bad is good at pvp

>>146707396
>I'm certain they'd be showing up if he was in any trouble at all
Did you miss the part where the phoenix died?

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>that one guy who does solo pvp with alts or fleetm8s

>>146707601
yeah I'm not going to watch all of such a bad video. maybe he would've lived if he had a tank and better damage and better damage application :^)

>>146707668
you aren't going to convince me that you're actually solo if you're flying a dreadnought. it's unlikely, and it's also retarded

>>146707396
>you're retarded though. it's an extremely bad ship for solo
So what if its not intended as a solo ship? Thats how lord servant got notoriety over this stuff. He uses citadel cruise missiles because they apply longer and better than citadel torps. He uses his own webs and TP's so he doesn't have to rely on other ships that would just get killed or forced off and leave him a sitting duck. He uses 2 TP's a guidance computer and a web with a sebo and cap booster.

>>146707962
>killed or forced off

yeah maybe if he's an absolute shit-tier pilot

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doing solo in a fleet is called elite solo pvp. it is the most honorable thing.

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>PINGINPINGPING
>GUISE GET ON FLEET
>AAANOOOOONNNNNN GET ON FLEET
>GET ON FLEET OR YOU GET PURGED
>I'M ABOUT TO GO SOLO PVP AND I NEED YOU ALL IN FLEET

>>146708152
>well just not be shit
this isn't an arguement you can't just kartwheel around reasons with "just dont be bad" or some dogshit

>>146708396
but you didn't post any reasons. if you can't keep a mwd frigate with 120km range alive, you should kys

>>146708331
>oh these are just cyno alts I'm still totally solo guys
>and my scout alts too I need those

the point is you're retarded if you solo in a dread. saying 'but I'm doing muh solo, it's solo lol stop blobbing!' doesn't matter. you have the accounts anyway

>>146707396
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WTCgrRIcbhg

heres another solo dread using the new HAWS guns

>>146708331
Sry, busy playing kerbal.

>>146708584
>but you didn't post any reasons. if you can't keep a mwd frigate with 120km range alive, you should kys
maybe an interceptor flies out to you and kills you then what?

>oh just warp
so you lose application hence VOLATILE

>no reasons
no you just ignored the reasons listed and said "well just don't be bad" what ever the fuck that means

>>146708592
God, its that fucking twitch autist. He laughed his chromosome off.

>>146708760
>umm this video doesn't count because I think he's autistic and well what ever because I said so
not an argument

>>146708879
I'm not the anti-solo guy. But that twitchfag is retarded.

>>146709069
>its retarded because I said so and it doesn't count

>>146709126
>burns out mods
>forgets to siege
>not retarded

>>146709069
I'm not anti-solo, I'm anti being a retard

>>146708592
this is completely different desu, not even comparable a little bit. abusing the permanent speed, immune to tackle thing from siege + prop, with turrets and a lot of webbing you're just zeroing your transversal on people. it can more or less use a proper fit, kind of I only watched about 5 seconds and looked at his modules, I don't really care what happens

>>146709262
he doesn't forget to siege until extremely late into the stream and he only had it off for 30 seconds because he immediately sets to red so he has the potential to leave since siege will keep going.

>burns out
no he offlines them to save cap on the MWD. He only burns out the cap booster, not like it mattered since he was out of cap boosters and was hic pointed for 20 minutes

>>146709375
>abusing the permanent speed
thats not abuse, thats literally how Mass and Siege works.
>immune to tackle
hes not immune to tackle
>webs
have nothing to do with inertia and mass.

>I don't really care
because you're fucking wrong and you're butthurt you can't shift your narrative

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>It's a Bjornbee is stupid enough to stream in black rise episode

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OyEyXnLLBI0

>>146709608
>>webs
>have nothing to do with inertia and mass.

they have a lot to do with being able to hit people m8. if you're moving a lot and you web people a lot, they can either keep up with you and get fucked because no transversal, or they can get left behind. it's easier to do this than hit people with citadel missiles

>because you're fucking wrong and you're butthurt you can't shift your narrative

no, you're retarded. I'm not watching a video of some noobs feeding kills to him or him fucking up or whatever, because it's not relevant to how the mechanics of the game work. the setup is the only part of the video I'm interested in, I saw that, and then I closed it. actually you're butthurt and something something narrative, not me

>>146710076
>they have a lot to do with being able to hit people m8.
nothing wrong with using webs then.

>I'm not watching because I don't like it therefore its bad because I said so and it doesn't count

>>146710076
>because it's not relevant to how the mechanics of the game work.
then why are you bitching about "speed abuse"

its like whining about instawarping people into warp with webs like people do with freighters

>>146710256
I know there's nothing wrong with it. it's an investment of 2 slots and pretty much solves your damage application problem. meanwhile on a citadel phoenix you need pretty much your entire fit to be webs painters and guidance shit. this is what I've been saying the whole time - the solo phoenix thing is shit and for dumbs. I already told you that the two aren't really comparable, and now you're apparently getting all mad because you think I'm saying something that I'm not saying

>I'm not watching because

actually I told you why I'm not watching it

>>146710448
I used the word abuse because it's a broken game mechanic. I'm not giving the guy shit for it or saying it matters to the discussion or invalidates anything

>>146710563
>I know there's nothing wrong with it. it's an investment of 2 slots
he only has 1 web and he's using HAWS that have battleship tracking, regular battleships need webs and graplers too.

>citadel pheonix
because he's using a citadel weapon to hit sub caps and the videos were before the dread change ups anyway. Citadel torps or cruises can't hit subcaps like that anymore. Which is why people use Rapid Torps now even though torps have a hard time hitting battleships. Solo pheonix's aren't nearly as good as solo nags or solo moros's

>>146710898
he has a web and a grappler

this actually needs less tracking stuff than battleships, because you cannot slow it down

>hurr explanation

I know. the citadel phoenix is shit, and this thing is a lot less shit

>torps
>hard time hitting battleships

m8 pls

>>146711190
>he has a web and a grappler
a grappler is not a web

>it needs less tracking stuff
it has less tracking than battleship weapons.

>torps don't have a hard time hitting battleships
they do they apply like garbage, theres a reason why no one uses torp battleships like with a raven. Torps are only good on stealth bombers because stealth bombers get 50% to explosion velocity.

>>146701186
Why didn't you scam people for free money?

>>146711563
>a grappler is not a web

don't be such an autist

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>>146711563
>>146712598

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>>146687925

I have weird feelings towards Bowhead...

>>146705894
solo pvp is inferior in every way to gang pvp which is inferior to fleet pvp.

The only reason to solo PvP is so that retards can watch videos of you solo PvPing with dubstep in the backround and think your cool. Being able to pull corporations and alliances to fight with you is infinitely more valuable for winning fights, achieving goals, (and avoiding fights altogether) than any amount of elite solo PvP.

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>achieving goals

>gang isn't fleet

>>146707345
Is there any other definition for solo other than "alone and without help in any form"? Thats not really shifting goalposts, he was in a fleet, the only way to prove its solo is if he is PvPing not in a fleet and you can somehow prove he doesn't have alts doing shit like bubbling and scouting for him.

>>146714836
Ive seen this picture hundreds of times and I still think thats a pretty nice looking suit.

>>146715508
It is a nice suit, it's horribly inappropriate for the situation (casual meetup) and the hat is just horribly out of fashion.]

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>the hat is just horribly out of fashion

>2016
>still can't get my character a trilby or naruto headband

How should I price my BPC's? I have a bunch of maxed out BPO's and I want to start making copies, but how should I go about pricing them?

>>146718127
Yeah 60+ years out of fashion.

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>fashion

>>146719371

Just sell the BPO's and get out of the copying game.

>>146694484
ikr

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>>146658794
>make tengoo great again.

What did he mean by this?

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What the fuck was CCP thinking when they made this thing. Did they think this would somehow make data sites worth more now? 1 utility slot and worse virus coherence and strength for a hundred times more isk than the T2 version.


No thanks.

>he

>>146723476
Shhh. the balance police will get you.

>>146723678
Shit. I just read on the forums that you get the skill bonus applied for either one while using it. Which totally doesn't sound like what it's supposed to do.

"I've finally equip zeugma on my tengu - 155 cohrence while T2 data - 120c, T2 archeo - 115c.
Bug or intentional?"


If that's how it's SUPPOSED to work than it completely outclasses T2. Only 1 util slot is sort of a pain but it's not like you can't pick them up after you use the one you have.

PLEX is at a low and is on the upswing goyims! I have the inside scoop!

If I were you I'd invest!

Billions to be made!

>>146723956
Is this bullshit in EFT? Try it.

>>146724148
It's not in EFT yet. At least in the version I have which should be up to date. Weren't these things put in the game only a month or so ago?

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Those 4 orders with the same time are a bot or just a faggot?

Is there much point in keeping decent standings with pirate factions? I'm nearly -5 with Guristas from doing security missions, but I'm reluctant to keep killing them in case my standings become irreparable.

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>Hek

>>146727059
pirate missions are worth more. They also give you cheap access to shit like the worm etc

>>146727059
no it's pointless. if you don't live in one of the 3 or however many gurista stations in pure blind or wherever, and don't have some way to stop the locals from fucking you whenever you undock, you aren't going to be running missions for them

>flying worm

Guys can we make a pastebin or some shit that has the skills tiered in importants to train?

something like
>train these to V ASAP
>train these to IV ASAP
>train these to III ASAP
>train these to II or I ASAP
>fill in these to IV
>fill in these to V

Or a priority system for skills scaled 1-9 and you can look at what you like doing in the game and suggested ships and skills will change their priority.

>>146728437
importance* fuck me.

>>146728437
This should suffice http://wiki.eveuniversity.org/Core_Skills

t. not from e-uni

>>146730475
Honestly that list isn't very good. All it does is list skills and doesn't list any taget levels. It doesn't have any E-War skills, even things like being able to fit a point, it doesn't have any drones listed such as basic light drone operation. It also doesn't list any sort of ship skills or weapon skills that would be considered basic shit everyone should be able to use.

Also for a question, if I'm flying cap chain t2 logi how useful are the targeting skills that boost resistances to ewar? I have them at like, level II right now.

>>146732164
train to 3 or 4, ecm isn't super common. maybe it is in memehole space, idk

>>146732586
I'm flying in null, f1 warfare.

>>146732723
yeah I doubt you'll see any ecm in f1 blobs, they'll just die instantly

>>146732723

do small gang roams, ecm shines there

>""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""small"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""" """""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""gang"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""

>small gang
>not micro fleet

>""""""""""""""""""""""shit""""""""""""""" """"""""post"""

>blobs

>>146734438
>1v1 pvp with multiboxed alts

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>spend 50 million on an obscure ammo with low daily volume in order to fill a buy order in another region
>the buy order has been filled by the time I transport it
>I'm now stuck with a product that will take a week at minimum to offload just so I can get my investment money back
I fucking suck at this game.

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:^)

>he took the inter-region market bait

>he

>he didn't buy tags/plex from shitty regions and travelceptored it to other regions

>>146735298
>inb4 void xl

>>146735383
How does it feel to be below l4 missioners?

>literally paying for ammo

how much of a cuck can you even be? I bet you use cap boosters too

I BET YOU USE NANITE REPAIR PASTE AS WELL

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>still no logi ship that can remote repair modules heat dmg

https://zkillboard.com/related/30003770/201606262010/

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>Providence

>not mining and making your own ammo for free

https://zkillboard.com/kill/54818952/

I've been playing on and off since 2008 and have finally discovered how fun PVP can be. I went out with my buddy with tristans and just fucked around in FW areas.


We got some kills until my buddy blew up when we tried to take on a stabber. He got greedy and waited for his drones to come back to him before jumping out while the stabber was jammed from ECM drones.


Shit like that is actually fun though. How do you go about finding a good corp to join anyway? I've never bothered because I'm on and off the game so sporadically.

>>146742635
you just look around and try. there is no instnant good corp button.

you can always join spectre fleet or equivalent for some dank pvp blob action

or just fly underpowered engageable ships and be good

>>146742635
no good corp will keep you if you are one of those faggots that disappears all the time.
Either stay alone or just band wagon on one of those small gang corps that get made and die every 2 weeks,

>>146742184
>>146742184
>orthrus and 2 sacrs
he might be dead but at least hes not a literal space nigger

>ded

I am tengoo, destroyer of worlds.

She is Reyni, the sitter of faces

>

>AMARR XDD

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>XDD

rlml

>>146755376
u should of let the thread die u piece of shit

>>146755547
join tengoo

I don't join shitters in dead corps

>dead

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>hehehue check our totally not dead corp
>wea re so ironing memeyrs ecks dee dee

>Gal and Min "governments" in charge of securing capital ship production from pirates

Never trust free governments desu.

>>146757917
>sansha's dreadnought
>dark blood titan
>dread guristas titan
Fascists in charge of damage control :^)

>>146757917
>be dumb idiot memer
>thinking about how to force my pol memays into EVE to show off how cool and memetic I am
>write some dumb shit thats totally wrong because I have no idea about the game

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>>146758235
Please tell me more big guy.

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>Dead Game

>>146758473
If you have body as Tetra, I'd fuck you.

>that one guy who thinks eve politics are memes

t. brutor

f

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Is this the slowest thread in the past 2 months?

Can we talk about this overpowered piece of shit?

fine fuck you dog

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>bumping the thread

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>>146764163
Lets talk about the best cruiser instead.

>>146767004
Thats a top tier ship alright, but the Bellicose is he best cruiser., assuming you have target painting V

>>146764163
Lets just go back to our one thread every four days routine again. The influx of posters during WWBee was ridiculous.

I'm gonna find you anon.

>>146767915
i mean it wasn't too different from the influx during This Is Eve

>tfw you get a dreadnaught spawn while watching something out the window
>it rekt my rattlesnake in 10 seconds
didn't even drop loot

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>>146764163
>1591m/s

Always mine. Never sleep.

>>146764163
>2 mids
>no cap lel
>slow as fuck
>the algos is better in everyway

>>146770268
>algos
>good

only at meme tanking / meme prop, both of which are retarded and should be removed

>be ratting in null so i can peacefully mine for my corp
>be reprocessing all that loot since the market is ded in this region
>Rats are cleared out
>out of nowhere some faction frig warps in
>timetogo.gif
>scrammed
>his armor is at 75%
>faction cruiser comes in
>holding them off for as long as i can
>make contact with corp
>no reply
>my battlecruiser is gone
>now i have to hit and run the asteroid belts because i cant fucking rat

cant people just leave me alone when im trying to do things? After that, they were gone.. like they were never there. they came to ruin my day and left.

>>146770373
Can you actually find a reason why its bad instead of making up dumb buzzwords and putting "meme" on the front of it because you're an unoriginal shithead?

>>146770416
don't fly shit you can't afford to lose

>>146770497
>delayed damage
>small dronebay
>useless bonus
>has the option of using larger drones and being unable to hit anything

buzzword doesn't mean word you don't like btw

>>146770416
why don't you try

>making contact with corp

again

>>146770416
no
how else am I supposed to get easy kills?

>>146771427
>>delayed damage
what the fuck does this even mean? the dragoon uses drones too stupid ass
>small drone bay
slighty smaller than the dragoon but the algos can use bigger drones because it has more bandwidth and valks have no problem hitting destroyers
>useless bonus
you don't put guns on your algos?

the algos is way faster and way more agile. it puts out way more damage because of its gun slots

it has better fitting because more CPU means more CPU intensive mods

it has a superior slot layout because 3 mids and 3 lows is always superior to 2 mids with 4 lows.

>>146770623
i can afford to get another one no problem, but i was trying to MAKE money. im not some pleb that doesnt know how to make ISK. >>146771605
because my ship is gone and they are absent
>>146771645
it certainly was not an easy kill, but i also wasnt fitted for PvP.

I was mining to get minerals for manufacturing, and i was ratting so i could mine safely.

>>146771774
>hitting destroyers

that's pathetic. other destroyers use frigate weapons with a +50% tracking bonus. the algos has the 'advantage' of being able to use some cruiser weapons with no bonus

yes I put guns on my algos, but they aren't such a huge fitting investment and they aren't damage bonused enough for me to care about having a tracking bonus. it's the exact same as the tracking bonus on the tristan and the eos, an utterly useless non-bonus

>faster

still slow as shit

>way more damage

not really. dragoon is +1 dda

>2 mids
>4 lows
>bad

I prefer the dragoon's slot layout. I don't need a web when I have drones and the enemy is cap fucked anyway

>>146772068
>other destroyers use frigate weapons with a +50% tracking bonus.
so does the algos?
>cruiser weapon with no bonus
its a valkyrie, it has more than enough tracking to hit destroyers
>still slow as shit
1591 vs 1687 thats a pretty big difference
>dragoon is +1 DDA
if you can fit it with that lack of CPU
>I prefer
no one cares what you prefer, 3 mids is superior to 2 in every way. Its why no one likes to use the coercer or punisher because 2 mids isn't enough

>>146773432
>so does the algos

valkyries are not a frigate weapon and they are not tracking bonused

>to hit destroyers

destroyers are supposed to be able to hit frigs very well

>big difference

it's not. everything outruns the algos and everything also outruns the dragoon

>no one cares what you prefer
>coercer
>punisher

kys shitter, those are two great ships. a capped out enemy is not dictating range on a dragoon

1v1 me at the sun faggot

What the fuck is the point of flying anything else if you have access to a strategic cruiser?

>>146775371
most pvp in eve is just for fun, so if you fly the most overpowered ships in the game you get no fights

>>146775371
because t3cs are hard countered by most of in meta ships right now

>>146775371
cost

>invulnerable ship that can kill anything
>countered

>>146775371
My favorite for solo/small gang roams is federation navy comet. Just because it looks dopey as fuck and I don't see it often. Plus it's usually about as expensive as an assault frig. Maybe if I had the isk and skill I'd fly a t3c, but I would never risk losing something that expensive because I was bored. If I could fly one I'd probably just be the links faggot because I'm good at getting away.

>>146775371
Pirate/Navy Battleships still control the grid better and with less numbers and can support/recieve support from caps better.

HACs are like 3 times cheaper and have no punishment for losing it.

HICs have unique infi point.

T1 Cruisers are dirt cheap.

T1 Battlecruisers are dirt cheap and can afford to exchange great number of kills to cause isk damage and force expensive ships off by scared FCs.

Command Battlecruisers like Sleipnir can compete with T3Cs but cannot outrun, with similar numbers can hold grid and outlast them while having no penalty for dying in exhanges.

With inferior numbers command BCs can still trade but not hold grid.

T1 Battleships are dirt cheap and can bulletsponge/delay.

Pirate cruisers are probably the most useless against T3Cs when it comes to fleets.

Anything smaller is worth flying for cost, efficiency and maneuverability.

For "solo" roaming or hunting, T3Cs are not that great when you can add unknown variables and be easily killed when outnumbered or blind countered.

>>146776092
tc3s really aren't that great for anything but brawling or being a pete

>>146775371
Losing a level V subsystem is almost worth 400mil alone, add ship hull plus 5 subsystems worth 50mil each and then the mods and you're looking at almost twice as much isk than losing a pirate battleship.

>>146776958
why do you think everyone in the game is flying rail protes all the time if they are not that good

>>146777758
Everyone in the game is not flying rail prots dont make shit up

>>146775371
More like what is the point of flying a strategic cruiser if you have access to anything else in the t2/faction range.

>>146778000
Reminder that half of that is gatrcamping kills and that if you die to gate camps you are literally a reddit tier shitter that can't play the game are is good for nothing.

>>146778696
I'm not going to respond to your post

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>he dies to gatecamps

>>146778696
did you die to a gatecamp anon

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>>146778885
no anon, I actually use map statistics

>>146779052
you sure you're projecting pretty hard

>>146779096
projecting my security for map statistics, give it a try and you'll never die again

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>>146779371
>never die again
whats it like to be a isk adverse manchild

>>146779463
>be bad
>y-you're a coward

le trolled xd

>>146779559
thats implying i die to gatecamps

>>146779463
I obviously meant to gate camps you dense fucker.

>not engaging overwhelming gate camp odds and coming out on top
shitters

>>146780604
Maybe not type like a child and people will understand you

>>146781134
>what is common sense
how would map statistics save you once you already got in a fight?

>>146781623
backpeddling now eh?

>EL33T PEEVEEPEE manchildren and whineybaby manchildren slapfighting

Eve players are by far the most interesting community to observe.

no your a manchild

>>146781920
I don't think you understand what backpeddaling means.

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did you get your 10k sp today anon-chan?

>>146782157
Its being removed tomorrow

>>146782309
im sorry, i didnt also get the memo that tomorrow was today. did obama decree this?

>>146782727
A statement, to dampen your shitty meme.

>>146782823
the meme does not require any accuracy score to be effective. your dampening does nothing

>>146782908
i bet you dont even play eve

>lowsp fags btfo

>>146782908
damps do nothing
well you got that right
but don't tell that to celestisfag anon, he thinks hes helping.

>>146783007
not at your level, no
but i play

>>146783734
I think there is something mentally wrong with you

>>146783838
elaborate

>>146783905
You literally are posting a dumb generic anime girl with the nations logo plastered in the corner.

>>146784015
but shes not from an anime
and actually i was just at first going to get rid of what was in the corner (which looked out of place), which in the process realized it was my opportunity to do just that

so it was more of an unplanned thing. autists i think envision these things 30 steps in the future

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>>146784178

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>>146784178

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>>146784316
>>146784316
>>146784430

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>posting catgirls

Chen is the only 2hu that's allowed to be posted here.

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>>146784840
i was already on top of that

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>>146783734
Interesting artist.

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>>146785043
yeah char is great man

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>5 (five) virus suppressors in a row

>tfw you like your corp and your corp likes you

Nothing can stop us now! The best ship in EVE really is friendship. Every other aspect of EVE just seems so small in comparison now.

>want to pvp
>carrier nerf hasn't happened yet

>handful of newbros trying to have a good time in a corp
>get wardecd just because
okay

>>146771935
im deep in nullsec and russians are blocking all my exits. they blew up my myrm, and i want to jump clone to get more things.

how best to do that without getting blown up again?

>fly under fc who got scammed out of his titan
>exactly what you would expect happens