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How fares your empire, /gsg/?

This day in history, June 26th:
1409 – Western Schism: The Roman Catholic Church is led into a double schism as Petros Philargos is crowned Pope Alexander V after the Council of Pisa, joining Pope Gregory XII in Rome and Pope Benedict XII in Avignon.
1522 – Ottomans begin the second Siege of Rhodes.
1541 – Francisco Pizarro is assassinated in Lima by the son of his former companion and later antagonist, Diego de Almagro the younger. Almagro is later caught and executed.
1843 – Treaty of Nanking comes into effect, Hong Kong Island is ceded to the British "in perpetuity".


>News
HOI4 DD17/06
https://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/index.php?threads/hoi4-dev-diary-june-17th-patch-1-1-red-ball-express.949237/

CK2 DD 11 - The End of Days
https://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/index.php?threads/ck2-developer-diary-11-the-end-of-days.950847

>Random Country Picker
http://randomcountry.gbasood.net/

# Archive
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# Mods
>> READ THIS FIRST.
http://pastebin.com/cCdcev76

>>[HoI4] - More Music Mod
https://mega.nz/#F!v5wXURpJ!TvoBinBVQWJbaYJsluyoFA

>>[CK2 - 2.5.2] - After The End
https://github.com/notalbanian/postapoc

>>[V2] - Historical Project Mod 0.3.5.1 - 20/06/2016
http://pastebin.com/66gpxbKk

>>[V2] - Napoleon's Legacy v0.3.1.7
http://pastebin.com/sN1g69sr

>>[V2] Alternative Flag Pack V7
http://pastebin.com/PRQH8vcV

>>[V2] Many Houses Divided - v 0.0.1.1
https://www.dropbox.com/s/jso7qa1c4ystej7/MHD.rar

Old Thread >>146585454
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Reminder to report and ignore shitposting.
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>>146647719
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>>146647719
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Reminder that we don't take refugees.
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>>146647719
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>>146647719
stop please
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>>146647794
I do, as long as they're brown.
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i haven't played these shitty games in ages or gone on this shitty general
is EU4: WW2 any better? is alex grandi still alive? has rob returned?
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>>146647912
Alex Grandi died fighting in the 2nd English Civil War. His mod was taken up by his brother Roberto Grandi.
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>>146647794
Where will Brits go then?
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>>146648036
>tfw Aley was beheaded by servants of the London Caliphate
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>brits want to kick out all the europeans, so they can import more pakis and nigerians

Sounds fun
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>>146648378
>more
Citation?
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>>146648412
both Nigel, David, the pensioners who want 3rd worlders to enable their pensions for low wages and young sjws said so on the various talk shows leading up to the referendum
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Thinking of writing a "Breed" National Focus, how should I do that?
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anyone know where the 1.1 beta patch can be downloaded(not steam)
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>>146648536
from the paradox forums if you pls buy the game
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>>146647719
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>>146648568
what if you didnt desu
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>>146648619
then you can fuck off you dirty pedophile
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>>146648669
enjoying paying 250$ to the jews you cuck
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>>146648712
>playing HOI4

who's the cuck?
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is this general dead? where's the willyposting, and where's the liquoria2posting?
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>steamgroup shitposters sperg out at the report and ignore post so they shit it up
pottery
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>>146648481
If you want to chat, just fire the "Men for the colonies" event
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>>146648815
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>>146648835
t. r&i
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>>146648815
It's 13:00, the americans are asleep and the europeans were called to the lunch their mommies made
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>>146648873
t. bobo
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>>146648849
>chat
cheat
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Lads an extremely important question

If you were to make an alt-history HOI4 mod, which country would you pick, and what would the backstory be?
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Why is it no longer Fatimid?
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>>146648849
That affects everyone. How can I create a event or national focus to give only my accepted/primary culture +growth? I know if I can do a simply population increase, but I want to do it as a +% growth
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>>146649040
I just wouldn't play it at all.
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>>146649076
I think some titles have specific rules when it comes to being named, even if you're one of the cultures/religions that typically are family named
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>>146649095
You can't, growth modifiers always affect everyone
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>>146649040
Germany, the year is 1920. Kaiser Friedrich III. just died and trouble is brewing in Europe.
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>>146647947
>German Krakow
No matter how many times I see it, I still can't get behind it.

Best Deuschland though, except it has to not be socialist.

Where would the capital be? Hapsburg or Hohenzollern?
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>>146649040
An alt-history mod with the following backstroy: parajew never made hoi4 and we are all still discussing darkest hour. This could be implemented by making the hoi4 exe open darkest hour
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>>146649040
The USSR is a bigger threat and the Nazis manage to secure a Jewish Madagascar.
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>>146649167
>DEUTSCHland
>capital ever not being Berlin or maybe Aachen
I want delusional austrians to leave.
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This was the longest peace treaty I've ever had to do.
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>>146647947
why do the mutes have such a fetish for us? Do they think we're hiding gold in our mountain halls?
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>>146649358
>new mongol empire
what a shit game
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>>146649253
Then we would be discussing Hoi3.
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>>146649358
>British China
All that Opium
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>>146649417
What would you name it?
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>>146649484
the horse empire
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>>146649417
It's my puppet. I didn't have anything to gain from actually annexing it.

>>146649431
Yeah, I never went to war in Europe and never let Japan into the Axis because they always drug my faction into shit wars in previous games, so Asia got dominated by the Allies.

It was the peaceful and nonthreatening rise of Nazi Germany.
My war against Russia was even defensive.

I'm not sure what to do now, declaring war on Europe would ruin my peaceful and nonthreatening streak.
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>>146649556
>peaceful

A defensive war isn't peaceful, especially if it ends with total annexation lad
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>>146649556
Guarantee some nations.
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>>146649358
Wait, aren't the regions around the baikal lake tthe ones where all the oil is at? Why did you give that shit to the spaghetti-niggers?
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>>146649627
you should go to class more often my young friend
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>>146649604
>total annexation
Not quite.
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>>146649702
Are you retarded? I'm talking about how it is in the game, I can't really recall it.
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>>146649775
wew
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>>146649627
>126 oil in Baku
Huh, didn't know that.

Not that I really need it.
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Victoria 2 is quite light on PC, is CK2 like this as well?
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>>146649863
Is Poland your ally? If not, conquer them and leave them with Slovakia
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>1946 in war with USA as Japan
>Took half of the canada but americans swarmed in and I can t beat them because organisation of my troops is extremely low
Anybody knows how to increase organisation or decrease attrition? I know I have lots of troops crowded on small piece of land but I basically can´t move like this, Also america lost 900k of people already in this war. I lost only like 400k. (not just with america but against chinese and british as well). Does AI have cheats for unlimited population or they will run out of it eventually?
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>>146649805
So you're indeed retarded? Got it.
Also I just checked and in the game, which is what we're talking about here, the area around the baikal lake has ~160 oil
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>>146649863
How did you even get the resources to beat the Soviets without conquering anyone?
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>>146650050
It's the fucking Caspian lake, you fucking uneducated moron.
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>>146649863
>buildig synthetic oil plants in all your provinces
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>>146650132
*Sea
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>>146649931
>>146650075
The Axis consists of
>German Reich
>Russian Empire
>Falangist Poland
>Independent State of Croatia
>Tuvan Nationalist Republic
>New Mongol Empire
>Dictatorial Sinkiang
>Hungary
>Legionnaires Bulgaria
>North Sea Empire (Fascist Denmark)
>Norgesveldet (Fascist Norway)
>National Union of Greece
>Turkey
>Swiss Imperial Confederation
>Radikalna Yugoslavia
>Legionary Romania
>Italy

And never provoking Europe means I had no enemies other than Commintern, free to import from anyone I wanted, though I only really imported from my allied countries, especially once I got Turkey and their chromium.
Now that I own most of Russia I don't need any imports though.
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>>146650132
I knew that of course
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>>146650227
opinions vary
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It's 1947. 10 million dead German soldiers. 2 million dead Netherlanders. Millions of dead Americans. 2 million dead Brits.

And the war isn't anywhere near over yet.

This is hell.
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>>146650169
What's wrong with that?
I have no depency on foreign products at all, and it's only like 34 ish factory slots, I have 453 factories now, and still had over 200 before I conquered Russia.
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Somebody teach me how to do naval/airdrop invasions, I really don't want to stop at Russia and the Allies are wrecking the Axis(I'm not at war with Allies).

I don't really know how to use the entire arrow stuff, I just create front lines and micro-manage everything.
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>>146650585
Create a naval invasion order by selecting an army, clicking the naval invasion order, selecting a port, and then selecting a landing zone. You can select any provinces that all border the same sea zone. Ensure you capture at least one port, or your men will run out of supplies.

Naval invasion troubleshooting:
1. ensure that the invasion has finished preparing. When you mouse over the execute order button you'll see how many days remaining. This is not the same as the -20% division still preparing malus.
2. ensure you have naval superiority along the entire route

Have fun.
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>>146650737
And airdrops?
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What should my southern border look like?

1/2
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>>146650585
Whats there to teach. Just press tha button and follow the tooltips.

Use the dedicated divisions to establish a beach head, ship in your army and crush them.

The best tio i can cone up with is to try to attack as many places as once with several small forces to imcrease the chances of breaktrough. Coordimate paratroopers to assist the naval landings.
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>>146650821
No idea, never done one. They're almost always a bad idea.
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How much value does Africa have? is in mineral and resource rich?
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>>146650832
Already went too far, border at Caucause, maybe a vassal georgia/armenia south of that.
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>>146650832
2/2
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>>146650907
Huh

Just use the appropriate mapmode and see for yourself.
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>>146650886
They're ridiculously powerful against the UK though, I managed to capitulate them in 3 weeks with about 15 paratroop divisions, they don't keep any divisions on the home isles.
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>>146650832
>>146650914
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When will there be a modern day gsg?
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>>146651073
>>146650832
>>146650914
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>>146651185
>>146651073
>>146650914

Just conquer the entirety of eurasia, you blobbing cunt.
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>>146650968
I don't have the game.

I will probably buy it if africa is lucrative.
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>>146649870
not at all
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>>146651295
is this some weird attempt at shitposting?
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>>146651295
Tippers toppers mate
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>>146647719
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>>146651295
Africa is very lucrative in V2, but you're going to have a hell of a time trying to exploit it as Africans.

No idea about EU4, though they added a huge amount of provinces to Africa for reasons.
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Reminder Hearts of Panzers has been released.

http://www.moddb.com/mods/hearts-of-panzers
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>>146651504
keel yuorselve
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>>146651504
*cringes*
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>>146651430
Its pretty good in eu
t. Spaniard
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>>146651504
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>>146651504
well at least in this Sanders is kinda cute
naming a girl Truth is pretty shitty though
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>>146651668
Her name is Katusha.
Pravda is the nation (school in this context).
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>>146651504
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Holy shit, if this crusade succeeds - which it msot likely will - this may spell the end of Sunni Islam
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>>146651504
>>146651504
Nobody cares fucking faggot
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>>146651504
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HJ0emX5RgZQ
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What should my goals be as Austria? Form Germany? Conquer Balkans? Block the Prussian Destiny? So many options
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>>146651217
r*ach go away
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>>146652060
Priority is always to Grossdeutschland
Followed by Balkan supremacy and reclaiming Constantinople
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>>146652060
go for the memes, reconquer the Jagellion "empire"
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>>146652060
Germany is best
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>>146652078
I agree, Russia should be contained to a city-state surrounding Moscow
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>>146652060
Dont give away anything
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>>146651952
What the fuck?
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>>146652060
Conquer Australia and move your capital there to finally get post to run properly
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>>146652294
Had it happen to me too awhile ago

I just ended up abandoning the game
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>>146652318
What?
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>there is still no grand strategy that starts in the stone age
>no grand strategy that allows you to completely rewrite history, starting in the stone age and going through all the Era's of humanity
>no grand strategy that allows and requires battles on regional level instead of just states and the country itself
>no grand strategy that shows border movements in real time, dwn to the regional level where you can see the advances from invading troops in every single town, no matter how small it is
>instead all we get is the same boring european/asian setting over and over again with semi-forced historical events
>Civilization doesnt fill this itch since its way too shallow and not a GS

desu if i knew how to code i would make something like that and make it work like google earth.
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>>146652294
lmao did paradox add this shit
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>>146652515
I could see Pdox making a new game based on Earth history based off the mechanics of Stellaris. As long as it has more GS elements in the latter half of the game it could be fucking solid.
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>>146652384
U cheeky kunt
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>>146652361
Utter bullshit muslim dick sucking programming, the target of the crusade, the seljuks, were losing a revolt to yazidis and as soon as the crusade is called off for no reason the yazidi revolt ends

At least the middle east is shattered
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>>146652515
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0mEkVBOKx6Y

:(
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>>146652515
No one cares about prehistory lad
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>>146652229
Nigga what? I thought they weren't able to form if they had cores that weren't part of the German Empire
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>>146652654
>>146652592
yeah kind like this, but in a GS style

Look at this map http://mideast.liveuamap.com/
I imagine it looking like this


>>146652690
Of course people do. its also just a choice, you can always return to EU blobbing if people feel like it. Just allow to start in ANY era with correct historical settings or just go full autism and create the world how you want it, starting in the stone age
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>>146652142
You mean Istanbul.
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>>146652515
So, basically, something like this:

>Paracuck Grand Strategy for politics, research, trade, and troop movement
>Total War/Men of War for battles and combat (Optional. You can opt to auto-resolve instead).
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>>146649390
probably the adriatic port, Janez
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>>146652690
>No one cares about prehistory lad
lmao speak for yourself faglord
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>>146652729
You get Greater Austrian destiny event if you control all the Greater Germany cores.
A-L, Prussia, all minors in your sphere.

Then you choose what you want to give away- keeping everything nets you 30 or 35 infamy if i recall.
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>>146652792
no not really 3D battles, but the removal of the zoom limitation

Right now you have a unit moving onto a town and then after a few seconds you win/lose that field and it changes color.

The way i imagine it is that these colors, the border of the region, is dynamical and can be observed on a regional level like in this map

http://mideast.liveuamap.com/

Its just an immersion thing but also would include conflicts on factional levels like civil wars and other stuff, you could see how myn streets of an important town belongs to the rebels/invaders and where your troops are holding it.

Of course tha map would look like a Paradox GS map and not that ugly yellow/white thing i posted, but the colored borders show the idea.
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What verison is the Darkest hour zip in the archive?
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>>146652878
Neat. Didn't know that
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>>146653062
It aint easy though.
Prussia has a tendency to snowball after Moeltke reforms so much its impossible to keep them under GP status.
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>>146653169
isn't it just to occupy all their shit, wait for them to fall down to SP then add them to sphere? Though I usually have a very hard time fighting them because of the reforms. Hopefully the Russians wanna be buddies
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How do the pros invade the USA as Japan? The Americans have a large fleet stationed in Honolulu and I don't want my precious navy to be decimated ;_;
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>>146653543
Spam air carriers and just steamroll their navy, then land in california after some island hopping
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Someone please explain me Carriers in HOI 4.

If I assign them to a mission like search and destroy, are my air wings in that carrier able to atack? Because I can't assign my airwings to the sea-zone if my carriers on a mission.

Or should I hold my carriers in water zone and assign air wings to that zone?
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>>146653768
The wings engage the targets the carrier does. If you want to have the wings do their own missions then you hotta stop the carrier.
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>>146653296
HPM has been fiddling around that a bit and i think he made it so you cannot lose GP status while in a war. Not sure though.

Also Russians are HORRIBLE alies.
You want 3 things.
1. Prussia to ally with GB
2. French allied on you
3. Cucked Italians
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Has anyone heard of a mod which has population %s so when you take poland you can move pols east and germans into their cities, also purge mechanics
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>>146653924
Is there any way to use the release of Holstein to turn the small german states in favor of Austria? Historically that was one of the things that made the Prussians favored to unify Germany
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>>146654085
You get Hegemony casus belli with Imperialism on Prussia.
Besides once they lose GP you can influence everything.
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>>146654063
HPM?
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>>146649076
>>146649139
He is of abyssinian culture, only arabic and turkish cultures use dinasty name as realm name.
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>>146654172
Thanks
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>>146650456
>suck so much you can't take netherlands with fewer than 20k casualties
i would be embarrassed to post this you should be ashamed
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>>146650456
Low quality bait.
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>>146653017

downlaod it, install it, the version shows up at the corner of the screen

if its 1.03, run 1.04 patch
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>>146653543
Oh boy I'm doing it

USA keeps sending destroyers one by one to try and pick me off but I always end up destroying the ships

They could take Midway Island but it will be a while and I will have all of Hawaii by then

>>146653627
I'm building three more carriers but they won't be available until 1944. If you're talking about the CAG planes then there is no air base nearby to assist in the invasion of Hawaii. I'm building one in Midway Island but who knows what will end up happening there
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Want to play as a British ruler in CK2, but not start as one because that'd be boring.

Can I do that with charlememe or old gods start or do I have to go with 1066?
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>>146654362
for >>146654249
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>>146653851
Cheers, mate. How do I establish my carrier fleet, how many destroyers and cruisers?

I am playing Glorious Nippon. How do I beat US fleet?
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How do I make monies as Portugal in EU4? By the time I have my first colony my income is at barely positive and by the time I have to I loses money? I'm gonna start a new game now.

Can Portugal really not afford advisers? Please don't tell me that the way to rack up my income is to blob in North Africa, all I want to grab are aesthetic border provinces (Moroccan Capital region and Ifni).
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>>146654371
just make a submarine doomstack like everyone else you massive faggot.

take their meme islands and panameme before invading. You don't want them raiding your supply lines
>>146654492
maximum subs
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>>146654063
PDM
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>>146654157
talex
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How badly optimized is HoI4? I have a high end computer and the moment I get to 1943~, the game starts stuttering a fuckton.
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>>146654927
>Paradox
>Optimized game
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>>146654927
It's mostly due to ai spamming large amount of poor divisions and being unable to hold frontlines. The beta patch has improved it slightly.
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>Great Power Bavaria
when will this meme die?
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>>146655167
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>>146654371
Invasion of Hawaii utterly failed. I destroyed a fair amount of American ships but lost the invasion troops along the way, so I suppose it may count as a strategic victory.

Here is the map of the world so far. I'm curious about playing as another country, maybe as the cucked USSR to try and get Soviet lands back. Is it worth playing as cucked USSR /gsg/, or would the Axis be too strong?

>>146654520
Got it.
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>>146654520
>maximum subs
this guy knows his shit
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>>146654503
ivory coast
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>>146655570
I want to say also that I'm very drawn to playing as Germany, if only because the German AI is so fucking stupid and is not helping Franco whatsoever as Spain gets eaten up by British troops.

German troops are mostly stationed at the border with Turkey. I cannot understand it but at least it isn't HOI4 levels of retarded.

Perhaps as Germany I will man up and invade the fucking UK for once, unlike the pussy AI.
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>>146655570
>>146655780
I will take back control and make the Soviet Union great again!
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>playing as byzantium
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IqXtxkQNLJY starts playing
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>>146655932
>again
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Oh lordy it's happening. Collapse of Sunni Islam imminent.
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>>146655570
You should have invaded the UK before starting shit with the US.
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>>146655780
but I though HOI3's AI was perfect?
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It's 1951, and Germany has finally run out of men.

It's almost over.
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>>146656184
As Japan? He wouldn't have a chance.
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>>146656505
how many men did they lose?

I managed to deprave USSR of their manpower after they lost 10M men
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Is the latest Magna Mundi for EU3 Divine Wind playable or is it just a giant kitchen sink sort of thing?

I want to play as the incas but I don't want to get fucked over by forty events giving me infamy

What other eu3 mods are good if not magna mundi?
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>>146656596
Yes he would. I did it in my Jap game and it was easy as shit. Just load up transports, rebase them to occupied France and then go to town.
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>>146656656
11 million Germans, 12 million Japs, 6 million Italians, 4 million Hungarians, 1 million Vichy French.

Up against 2 million Brits, 1.5 million Indians, 1 million Australians, 2.5 million Dutch, 8 million Americans.
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>>146655932
>officer ratio
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i got vicky 1 just to try it out and its better than vicky 2
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>>146656178
LOWER THAN ALL MEME RELIGIONS
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Does Arumba ever play with mods?
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The liberation of Paris, after over a decade of Nazi occupation.
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>>146656690
MEIOU EU3+
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What happend to the /gsg/ general changes mod? Where can I find its newest version?
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>>146657442
the dude working on it died in the Syrian Civil War
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>>146656793
>8 mln Americans
Americans are literally the Allies' saviours every single game.
Truly the heroes we need.
t. USAboo
not even american
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>>146657719
Who was he fighting for?
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>>146657832
Justice.
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>>146657738
As one threat eases, another appears.

Truly the Americans are saving the day this game. Everyone else's manpower is basically depleted.
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>>146657442
hey redditor
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>>146657832
ISIS
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Does the hoi4 ai ever use nukes?
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>>146657832
Allah
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So, earlier, I had the idea of adding a few Nestorian holy sites in southern India in CK2+ (because St Thomas), then playing a custom Nestorian character and seeing what I could do.

Unfortunately, in my test games, one of two things generally happened:

1. As a vassal, my liege lord would demand my titles (even if they liked me with my chancellor doing his thing)
2. As the independent count of Maldives, I was bored shitless for centuries, unable to make a move.

So, this time, I'm considering doing something I rarely consider in CK2: starting as a custom Nestorian Indian duke or king.

But which one should I pick?
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>>146657941
I haven't seen it happen yet, so probably no.
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>>146657857
Let's just hope the soviets are as bled out as everyone else.
Or that China won and joined Allies.
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>>146657425
It's better? Why so? Less clutter or what? I prefer to play eu3 because I already have all the dlc and haven't even started to deal with eu4
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>it's a 'mengkukuo bugged out and refuses to capitulate despite having literally no territory' episode
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SCRUMP SCRUMP SCRUMP SCRUMP SCRUMP SCRUMP SCRUMP SCRUMP SCRUMP SCRUMP SCRUMP SCRUMP SCRUMP SCRUMP SCRUMP SCRUMP SCRUMP SCRUMP SCRUMP SCRUMP SCRUMP SCRUMP SCRUMP SCRUMP SCRUMP SCRUMP
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This is the third fall of Berlin this war.

I like to imagine that this time the Dutch troops are just genociding the entire city.

>>146658091
Soviets only have 6 million dead, but once the Axis collapses it's literally them against the entire world.
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>>146658194
Jesus Christ you fucked it up.
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>>146658226
>>146658091
The Brits aren't cowards either. London is back in English hands.
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>>146658325
How so? I came up with it. That's how it's done.
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>>146658226
>Allies getting to Berlin before Zhukov.
Absolutely glorious.
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>>146658403
>How so? I came up with it. That's how it's done.
No
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>>146658454
Zhukov is the enemy. It's Allies vs. Axis + Comintern.
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>>146658476
fuck off dickhead
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>>146658380
>that encirclement
It's like the ai let them invade british mainland on purpose.
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>>146658568
What?
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>>146658380
Those provinces and borders are so fucking ugly. How can you even tell what is going on here?
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>>146658534
>zhukov is the enemy
As it should be.
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>>146658620
SCRUMP SCRUMP SCRUMP SCRUMP SCRUMP SCRUMP SCRUMP SCRUMP SCRUMP SCRUMP SCRUMP SCRUMP SCRUMP SCRUMP SCRUMP SCRUMP SCRUMP SCRUMP SCRUMP SCRUMP SCRUMP SCRUMP SCRUMP SCRUMP SCRUMP SCRUMP
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>>146658669
Huh?
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Which flag is better for Nazi Germany, the historical single swastika logo or the cool war flag with a cool design?
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>>146658065
be Pala or whatever that big green blob is

have fun with your vassals
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How do i get Hitler assassinated?
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How am I suppose to play as a colonizer in EU4?

Exploration and Expansion ideas are obvious, but the only other good ones seem to be the ones on the administrative side, which makes the game hard with all the cores you must do and the cost more administrative power. Or what? Just make pure colonies without conquering barbarians in the process? How are you even suppose to not do that when you get to India for example?
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>>146658797
>the historical single swastika logo or the cool war flag with a cool design

Aren't the both of them same?
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>>146658662
Welp, Germany has utterly collapsed. There are barely any German divisions left in Germany itself.

All that's holding the line is the Soviets. If we can defeat them here they'll retreat all the way to Moscow. You may have noticed that I have one nuke. I'm saving it for Stalin.
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>>146658905
He already died you kraut retard.
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>>146658990
the war flag is way tackier
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>>146659084
War flag then.
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>>146659069
Just drop it on Moscov ASAP
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>>146659169
I'm building a jet strategic bomber as we speak.
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holy shit this place is full of leddit
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>>146659084
Reminder
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>>146659374
You're not helping.
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>>146659303
Shame nukes don't actually do shit in this game.
I've nuked Japan into oblivion, but they only surrendered after the invasion.
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>>146659465
What about non-jewish capitalists?

t.amerifat
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>>146659469
treddit
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Good job paradox
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>>146659639
>2

Show 1
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>>146659639
lmao these games are buggy as hell
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If I can win this battle I close the pocket around Madgeburg, with all those Soviets inside. A little victory, but still fun. This battle is the green 55 on the map.
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>>146659548
>non-jewish capitalists
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>>146659804
One less Soviet to worry about.
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>>146659927
I mean, there were the Dutch and the British just to start with.
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Lads should I play CK2 PLUS or HIP?
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>>146659639
Unless they've changed it, this can sometimes allow the ruler to take ALL the money the steward has, which can be outrageous amounts of money if you're a King or a Duke with a merchant republic's head as your steward.
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>>146660708
HIP with SWMH is dope
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>>146660881
>>146660708
Is that EMF meme shit worth having?
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Even with the Soviets reinforcing them, Germany is collapsing.

Fun fact: the USA has actually taken the most casualties this war of any single nation. Axis+Comintern has more in total than Allies, but the USA is reaping a bitter harvest of maimed and murdered sons.
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>>146660962
I've never tried it desu senpai
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>>146660980
>switzerland taking land
absolutely revolting

and why did nobody just drop in on Italy or at least clean up that France
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>>146661302
Europe has been at war for 14 years senpai. Every power involved is down to scraping the barrel. Berlin has changed hands five times so far, London has fallen twice, and an enitre quarter of the population of the Netherlands has died - not counting civilians.

The time for neutrality is over. This is literally the end of the world.

>why did nobody just drop in on Italy or at least clean up that France
I'm cleaning up France at the moment, but I have to drag the AI kicking and screaming behind me. They're mostly focused on failed naval invasions of Spain.
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Is it possible/easy to airdrop-conquer the UK as Germany on veteran mode?
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>>146661607
Just aim for scotland, they leave fuckall troops there.
Make sure you land on a port to quickly send mountain troops via boats to help you entrench in scotland once paratroopers secure a landing zone.
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>>146661486
>163 divisons
>132 divisons
>154 divisions
>131 divisions
How do you even manage to play?
I usually give up around 1947 when everyone has about 500 divisions and the stuttering is unbearable.
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Considering hoi4 China playthrough. Anything I need to know? Mountain infantry spam will save me, right?
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>>146662410
It's actually running surprisingly well. I usually give up about then too, but it's bearable this game for some reason. I did just recently grab the newish patch which promised late-game performance improvements, so maybe that has something to do with it.
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>>146660962
just disable the VIET events if they still come bundled, its where all the cock events come from
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>>146662554
>playing HoI4
>>
most important techs in hpm? or is it the same as vanilla?
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Is the guy who posted that Thai rock'n'roll thing in the morning still here?

Could you link to it again? I'd be really grateful.

Anyway, here's some Tuareg psy rock in return.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ss9Znucx4GM
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>>146658975
Anyone?
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where is HoI4 mods
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>>146663381
You colonize shit and then make bank from the trade.
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>>146663646
Doesn't actually answer my question.
>>
WHY IS NO ONE UPPING THE BETA PATCH
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Did HPM fix the liquor meme/economy yet?
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>>146663895
Because game is still shit
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>>146663895
pls buy
>>
1-3 italy
4-6 china
7-9 america
0 germany
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>>146664010
But the patch fixes:
1. bombing war score
2. military access given to non-allies fighting the same enemy
Idgaf about anything else

>>146664083
the UK is in recession and I can't afford it
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>>146663862
It did though

Should probably reformat the question if you don't think it did.
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>>146664148
>those patch fixes
Holy smokes you just blew my mind.
So do we get fixed ai now or we wait for Johan to end his vacation?
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>>146664230
Did it you read the whole post?
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>>146664592
Most of it's inane.

Answered the first like question since that was the only coherent sentence.
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how do i get a codreanu bf
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>>146658975
why would you not want to invade barbarians?
if you don't like invading I don't think this is a great game for you
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How do I get MEIOU and taxes for EU4 when I don't own it on steam? I want to see if it can fix this hot garbage.
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>>146664775
If you conquer provinces around your colonise for faster expansion and there are some important ones you can't get otherwise, you are going to be using a lot of admin points, which makes it hard to both get new admin tech and ideas.
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>>146665105
That's about right ye.
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>>146647719
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>>146665105
Are you, by any chance, french, my friend?
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Just had the weirdest game

>historical focus ironman Soyuz
>Purge officers and kill trotsky first
>build up economy
>everything goes per normal up to 1940
>Poland quickly capitulates
>Germany begins to go through the Ardennes
>Decide to watch China get beat up on by Japan for a bit
>Suddenly realize it's 1941
>The only country West of the Rhine to have capitulated is Luxemburg
>Italy capitulates before Molotov-Ribbentrop pact wears off
>DoW manually because Germany sure as fuck won't do it if they can't even take Benelux
>Mop up Germany quickly and take Japan before June 1942
What the fuck Johan
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>>146665334
That's literally every game of HoI4 mate
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>>146665212
That makes administrative points way more important than the other two and its complete bullshit.
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>>146665396
This is my first game that went off the rails because of the AI instead of me and I have 62 hours of play.
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>>146665334
>>146665396
this
German AI struggles with Poland and you expected it to pull off Barbarossa?
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>>146665496
how did you arrive on such a retarded conclusion mate?
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this is going surprisingly well for veteran difficulty china

also this fucking field marshal is already a god amongst men in 1939
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where's the hoi4 mod lads???
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>>146665537
I've never seen it struggle this way before desu. In my last three games, Germany finished Poland and France before '39 was even over.
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>>146665496
Correct, you have successfully discovered yet another reason why EU4 is dogshit.
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>>146665667
Pretty sure experience gain on leaders is related heavily on the losses you take so you level super fast when you are playing as numerically superior but materially inferior party in the war.

Meanwhile in my Japan game I struggled to get a single new trait because my total losses for the world conquest were something silly like few hundred thousand.
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>>146665619
If you are playing as a colonizer it is absolutely so, while coring itself is not for colonizers only. Being a warmonger in Europe for example would probably mean you are getting military ideas which makes coring not a big deal. But if you are a colonizer the other two types of ruler points are practically useless compered to administrative points, which you need more than air.

>>146665935
If it is such a dog shit why are people here playing mostly it or now even the shifter HoI4?
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>>146666115
>why are people here playing mostly it
People here aren't mostly playing EU4. This isn't /r/Paradoxplaza.
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>>146666115
tip top mate
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>>146649627
>Baikal

shaggy this isn't weed
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>>146666205
this is reasonable
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>>146665998
That's fucking stupid
Paradox has been making these games for years, how and why do they keep making amazingly amateur design decisions like that?
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>>146666201
Who are you lying to? Before hol4 it was the most posted about game in this general.
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>>146666379

I'd say its a toss-up between Victoria 2 and Crusader Kings 2. EU4 might be 3rd or Darkest Hour might edge it out
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>>146666379
>Before hol4 it was the most posted about game in this general
Confirmed newfag, no it wasn't. Vicky 2 was, with DH in close second because everyone was playing it over HoI4 hype.
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>>146666339
MP balance XDXDXDXDXD

no really, it's a comeback mechanic for MP balance
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My goal is to create the best Axis ever and win the war for everyone forever. Wish me luck /gsg/
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>>146666465
>Darkest Hour might edge it out

well, no, but it was definately 3rd
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>>146666529
Is paradox actually deluded enough from their gay office multiplayer games that they think a majority of people play the barely-functional multiplayer?
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>>146666712
Yes.
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>>146666115
Alright I had my fun, since you obviously are incapable of logical thought lemme spell it out for you.

If you are struggling on the admin power as colonizer don't le pick an idea group that requires admin points.


Come on now was that so hard?
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>>146666651

what was? Darkest Hour isn't talked about much here but I'd say people that post in these threads play it a decent amount

EU4 is subject to derision when it's posted, so the amount of people playing it might be understated. It's hard to pin down really
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>>146666646
First fix that flag
>>
No downsides going from Civ economy to war economy right?

Just became fascist
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>>146666946
Literally none. It should be your first 150 points in almost every game.
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>>146666946
Based on this post it is if like the game had no tooltips at all.
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>>146667024
It just seemed too good to be true.
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>>146667110
Difficulty is not a valid argument.
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if the British Raj becomes a major nation during this war I'm gonna squash a turk in my bathroom I fucking swear
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>>146664825
gypsy
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>>146667194
Argument? What?
Who here is arguing about something?

When something seems completely ridiculous it is perfectly fine to confirm it here.
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This kills the Pole
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I just want to make sure, If I have a legit EU4 on steam, can I use the DLC pack from the archive with it and running the game from steam?
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>>146667583
what actually killed the pole was brexit
>>
>can't bomb enemy units not in combat
>can't bomb enemy planes that aren't in the air

How am I supposed to attack the British Isles? They've got 20k naval bombers in reserve, but the only way to get at them seems to be to send a sacrificial destroyer or submarine to the English Channel to draw them out and engage them with fighters. But when they drop 12 thousand bombers in the English Channel, my boats can't stay alive long enough for my fighters to shoot them down.
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>>146666853
It's just a few autists and "cool" folks trying to fit in that constantly bitch about EU, there's no "general derision".

And I was talking about the amount of posting, not playing, there's not way to gauge that.
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>>146667682
>deport poles
>import more pakis


Really makes you think.
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>>146667575
Please buy HoI 4 since we all agree there shouldn't be any downside to going full war economy.
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how do i get all this electronic dubstep metal shite out of ck2?
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Why are you fags pretending to not have been playing the the newest, most casual and therefore most played game bedore HoI4 - EU4. Next you will tell me no onw here even plays any EU games. The threads were full of EU4 screenshots not long ago. Now they are full of HoI4 garbage. It is a casual reddit tier general as most generals.
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>>146666646
What would an army based in Muenster be called, /gsg/? Not 'Army of Hannover', right?

>>146666932
Fix it to what
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>>146667921
I exclusively play gary grigsby's war in the east boyo
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>>146667768

i would say kaiserreich is actually more popular than EU4 in terms of posting

most people in this general dislike how reddit EU4 posters generally are
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>>146667921
I'm just browsing vg to repost stuff on reddit and rack up that karma.
I'm also a moderator on /r/paradoxplaza and regularly shill here for DDRJake, the greatest of all streamers.
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>>146667637
Yes.

>>146667896
Disable the music DLCs that has them.
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>>146667921
Is this the autistic version of chaddery?

>"You're not tough if you don't play Vicky. Be a MAN and manage those pops, you faggot."
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>>146668028
I can invite the ol gang into the Axis but then I also can't, which is frustrating. Maybe later
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>>146668083
>how reddit EU4 posters

Could someone explain to me what does the "reddit" quality actually mean?
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>>146668287
>mfw I've been playing HoI IV for so long I forgot that past games had decisions

i wnat to wake up from this nightmare
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>>146668310
treddit
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>>146668310
it's just a very modern aspect of the us vs them tribal mentality
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>>146668401
To be fair HoI3 had very few decisions.
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>>146668505
Now THAT's redditposting.
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>>146668505
>casuals and normalfags don't exist
Found one.
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>>146668540

honestly i would be happy with HoI 3 with integrated battleplans

everything about HoI 3 was so fucking comfy but OOB is so tedious and I simply don't have hte autism for it
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>>146668494
I was being completely genuine, because unlike you, I do not browse reddit so I don't really know how users there behave.
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>>146668635
The OOB being autistic is just a meme.
It takes some time to get used to it but then you just have to organize it once a game.
If you're too casual you can even have the AI set it up for you.
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>>146668723
anon oyu might be genuinely autistc
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>>146668287
I get the feeling I'll come to regret this later on down the road since China seems quite strong but we'll see
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those who don't enjoy HoI3's OoB are normie scum
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>>146668873
You're just a filthy casual that can't handle more than one layer of hierarchy.
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>>146668902
Japan usually beats China in 3
USA's the one you really have to worry about
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hhehehe, the autistchads strike again
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>>146668902
>Moygolid
>Tdeeu Tuvd

>>146669009
>there can be no middle ground between crippling autism for the sake of it and casuality
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>>146669003
There's a beautiful autistic pleasure in organizing armies
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>>146669221
If you think HoI3's army management requires crippling autism then it just confirms what I said.
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WHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY
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>>146668902
Somebody post that image of the anon guiding through ideal naval compositions in HOI3 so I can organise this shit

>>146669003
I actually love the OOB system and refuse to play HOI4 because of its absence

>>146669072
Nah, the USA is ezpz. But if China hulks up and mows down Japan I am screwed
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>>146669365
there's literally no more autistic game in paradox's entire catalog
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Is it worth it to destroy a king title in CK2 if I'm a king and the other title has purely shit succession laws?

I know it's going to result in a rebellion, but the alternative is losing a shitload of income and half my vassal levies.
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>>146669440
>implying Paradox is autistic
hello /r/paradox"I play strategic games for masterminds"plaza
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>>146669440
>what is aurora
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>>146667737
Bomb their airbases, dumbass.

Planes won't fly missions if bases are overcrowded.
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>>146669669
>>146669795
Nice reading comprehension you retards
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playing a ck 2 game in 800s Russia. Still tribal, in my bid for feudalism, is it better to have many small vassals or fewer larger vassals? more than likely none of them will like me much.
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>>146669924
>implying I even read your post

Just replied similarly to the previous poster
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>>146670223
>implying that was my post
I just felt like telling you and the other you how retarded you are.
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>>146670069
Never go feudalism from tribal until you have enough cash saved up to fucking rape all your current vassals with mercs, because they will rebel in that lovely period where you have 0 levies. Alternatively, wait until a few of your good vassals have the level 4 upgrade on the fort so they instantly switch to feudalism with you.

If you have disloyal vassals, large tribal vassals, or no money, you will die.
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God dammit.
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>>146669369
You gotta declare on uk before they ally with france
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If Darkest Hour is so played here why did you casual scums removed it as one of the main games in the OP to put fucking hoi4?
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>>146670353
so i should lower my tribal organization a bit for now?
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>>146670480
I didn't want to it be removed.
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>>146670353
>>146670492
sounds like i should get 2-3 strong feudalism upgraded vassals and any other Territory goes to singular demese holding chiefs.
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Almost one hundred after the colossal failure of the first crusade and the supposed end of Christendom, southern Andalusia is captured by the Catholics as the Sunni world collapses around them as the Yazidi faith nears the point of replacing Sunni as the dominant faith in much of West Africa and Persia.

The victor, King Turstin de Normaundie, now known as "the Great", was granted control over the lands for his valiant contributions to the war effort.
Alas, Turstin did not want to reign over the new Andalusian Kingdom, he had enough trouble dealing with heretics at home, thus he handed the kingdom to his son, Anselm, after appointing him as count of Seville.

Full of faith once more, the Catholic world now can sleep easy knowing that God is with them once more.
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>Wooden wall
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>>146670792
treddit
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>>146664482
The ai remains a broken piece of shit. In a sense, it's even worse than before since Germany chokes every fucking time.
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>>146671102
t. sunni muslim
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>>146669414
Here we go. Should I go the historical route with a Slovakian puppet state or should I give Slovakia to Hungary? Or should I annex the whole of Czechoslovakia outright?

Also somebody post the image pls. If you have it.
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Why is there still no China in CK2? Literally doesn't make any sense for Genghis to be leading the troops into Europe/Western Asia himself.
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>>146671802
Because that would be a retarded amount of bloat
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>>146671802
How are you going to simulate Chinese massive population?
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>>146671802
>wanting china before playable theocracies
t.paradox forums
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>>146671802
Seperate game.

fuck off
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>>146671802
>expecting Parashit to know how to make China work
>expecting them to be historically accurate at all
>expecting them to not have a thousand Wu Zetian events
>expecting the game to even start up with a thousand chinks just at start and a billion more as time goes on
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>>146672019
I want actual historic events and plausibility. Not memes from Pair of Cocks.
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>>146672148
>expecting paradox to portray china accurately
lad.......
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>>146672148
Unplayable theocracies and unplayable landless is a hardcoded thing aka as soon as it's possible modders will fix everything
China can be added by modders if needed but even then optimization is required.
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>>146672286
CK2 leaves me unfulfilled with how ahistorical it gets after two days and how many key features are left out for women's rights DLC.
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>>146672019
if paradox was going to release a theocracy dlc they should make it like the republic mechanic but instead of being part of a republic you're part of a holy order.
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>>146672696
we wuz queenz u misogynist WE WUZ QUEENZ
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>>146672713
The republic mechanic is weird too
They need to make succession laws moddable.
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>>146671802
Just play fucking RotK
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>>146672713
Paradox refuses to make theocracies playable because they say only dynastic titles should be playable.

They refuse to make baronies playable for the same reason EVEN THOUGH THEY WERE FUCKING INHERITED DYNASTICALY HISTORICALLY FUCK YOU PARAJEWS
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>>146672286
>>146672713
In the Game of Thrones mod the Night's Watch is playable. No reason theocracies can't be.
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>>146672907
translation: playable theocracies wouldn't make as much shekels as a half assed china expansion
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>>146672969
Modders could do it they'd just have to make a new government type to replace theocracy.

Paradox will never add theocracies with DLC they're busy on LE ZOMBI DLC x-----------D
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>>146672907
>be qt priestess of a Temple of Wodan
>you own the temple and its surrounding lands aka a county-tier theocracy, like your dad did before you
>you can't play as a theocracy even though it's dynastic XD
No seriously, there is no fucking reason why religions or cultures that can hold temple holdings without problem should be restricted, it's fucking dynastic it shouldn't be investiture bs
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>>146672907
never got the whole "you play as a dynasty" shit since you can't jump to another member of your dynasty if you become landless.
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>>146673145
You can't play as landless because muh shekels goy.
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>>146673228
desu not playing as landless makes some sort of sense since iirc landless don't get checked for a lot of things, like ambitions / focuses and whatnot so it would significantly slow the game if they made landless people interesting to interact with or play.
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>>146673087
Are you memeing or are they actually making zombie DLC?
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>>146671456
Went the historical route. Changed Slovakia's flag to its war ensign since the basic red-blue-white flag was too basic.
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>>146664962
Use steamworkshop downloader.
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>>146664962
Don't. It's really badly optimised, far worse than even normal pdox titles
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>>146664962
t. /pg/
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>>146670406
what I mean is fucking raj becoming a major power with 5 divisions
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>>146673331
https://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/index.php?threads/ck2-developer-diary-11-the-end-of-days.950847

x----------------D
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>>146674269
please tell me thats just some dumb shit like the anti christ event chain and doesn't actually fuck up your game with some apocalypse bullshit
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>>146649268

>Krauts use Madagascar to open a new front in Africa

>RAF bombs them to prevent this

>Jews still get BTFO
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>>146673637
>>146673696
>>146673721
Alright, so I have it and the newest EU downloading, but how do I get the .mod file that lets me toggle the files on? They don't seem to get copied over with the downloader.
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>>146674269
>Darkrenown
>Jihad Sultan
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Epic...
simply epic XDDDD
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>>146674584
WEW epic pop culture reference XD
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>>146674269
It looks like a good fraction of the Paradrones are losing patience too though.
No, seriously fuck this shit it's fucking Sunset Invasion all over again
but even worse End of Days should be Genghis, the Black Death or a Crusades rework not fucking zombies


>>146674584
I don't even remember where this is from.
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>>146674584
*banter finger* *laughing crying face* *100* *fire*
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I have a modifier with my vassals, too many held duchies modifier in elective gavel-kind. is there anyway to get rid of it without becoming weaker?
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>>146674853
>It looks like a good fraction of the Paradrones are losing patience too though.
>>>>
>Zombies? Seriously Paradox? This is what you're giving us? What is this, 2011 all over again?
>I sure as s**t hope it is, because I - for one - love the notion of a f***ng zombie
>CRUSADER KINGS Z CONFIRMED! AFTER SO MANY YEARS, WE'RE FINALLY GETTING THE DLC THAT WAS PROMISED! MWAHAHAHAHAHA!

> Real 'ability to defy Death' or just a significant health boost? Anyway more fun event chains are always welcome in my eyes!

> I will embark on the same quest as Gilgamesh and Alexander!

> These events seem very interesting by the way !

>>I do like the 'peasants getting swayed by rumours and superstition and taking drastic action' - kind of like a medieval version of electing Donald Trump?
>Come now, we're making a fairly dark DLC, but it's not that bad!

> So, any chance monsters and other fantasy creatures get to be in the DLC?

> This might be the first CK2 dlc I purchase at full price.

> Unfortunately looks like Paradox run out of ideas for CK2 but still needs the money from DLC sales.
>I only guess that the next DLC will have dragons involved.
>respectfully disagree x30

> There is so much stuff can be done (has to be done in ck2), and yet you add zombies event? Sure people were obsessed with death, but there was no such things as impactful beliefs in undeads, for sure nothing there were no zombie related events in recorded history that would matter.. nothing more than local beliefs of stupid peasants and "subjects" escaping in terror and paying ultimate price.. it's way too much.
>respectfully disagree x37

Remember lads
You are NOT the target audience
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>>146674853
>I don't even remember where this is from.
*takes le arrow in le knee*
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>>146675449
Oh right
Well I haven't gone through the opening sequence of Skyrim since my first playthrough so yeah

>>146675413
>>Zombies? Seriously Paradox? This is what you're giving us? What is this, 2011 all over again?
>>I sure as s**t hope it is, because I - for one - love the notion of a f***ng zombie
>>CRUSADER KINGS Z CONFIRMED! AFTER SO MANY YEARS, WE'RE FINALLY GETTING THE DLC THAT WAS PROMISED! MWAHAHAHAHAHA!
Is this faggot literally three years old
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>>146675413
>implying they don't just add respectfully disagree x30+ to any post that insults their DLC
The entire point of paradox forums is to create an echo chamber.
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>>146674447
Paradox said it can be turned off.
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>>146675413
that whole thread is reddit
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>>146675573
respectfully disagree x 30
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>>146675573
Fucking hell
How do those people live with themselves, I'd legitimately be unable to bring myself to do that shit for longer than maybe a week

>>146675597
Why the fuck are they adding it in the first place? Why are they wasting time on this bullshit when Conclave is STILL unfixed, Christianity is literally the blandest religion in the game, theocracies are something literally everyone wants available, bugs in the thousands lie ignored on the suggestions forums...

>>146675825
fuck your shit x10^(10^10)
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>>146675597
Paradox's idea of turning off horrendous features is just turning off the whole $15 DLC. You're gonna need a mod to actually make it playable, see estates.
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When the fuck will Paradox's jewing finally bite them in the ass
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>>146675887
Hey I'm not praising it, it's still a shitty pair of events.

>>146676039
That's how they do with the new team now, bloat game with features, let modders fix it.
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How long until HoI4 is playable?
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>>146676164
Never.
You underestimate paradrones.
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>>146676184
Three years.

>>146676164
Not for a long while, niche market and loyalist manchildren fanbase will help them tank through.

But I'm sure the ratio of players playing stellaris dropping by like 50k will make them rethink their options.
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>>146676282
The drones are one thing, but the their every new game being their newest best seller is speaking of the game being casual enough for casuals to jump in and most of them drop the games in a few weeks anyway.
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>>146676390
How hard is it to make a GS game?
I presume the difficult part mainly lies in AI.
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>>146674269
Forget being angry about the contents
There IS no content
Is this a dev diary? Fuck?
It's literally, LITERALLY as if they featured the antichrist event chain as an entire dev diary.
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I haven't played CK2 in a long time so I started as the obvious Ireland. Disabled conclave after two hours because jesus fucking christ.
Everbody has me by the balls, everything I do is considered to be tyrannical, can't take a shit without somebody protesting.

Anyways, I restarted and united Ireland thanks to a incredible diplo guy faking claims left right and center.

How do I consolidate power under Gavelkind though? My first heir gets the capital duchy and the Kingdom title. Is there any way I can secure a second duchy for him? It seems the other sons willl almost end up with more power than the primary heir no matter what.
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>>146675887
>theocracies are something literally everyone wants available
Nah, only some edgy retards want theocracies in a dynastic game
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>>146676743
Build shit in only the capital duchy or make a Kingdom, your other sons will become his vassals.
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>Get tired of meme countries so start playing Stellaris
>Belgium appears anyway
REEEEEE
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>>146676743
conclave is the shittiest DLC in paradox history, never play with it
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>>146676459
It's not about how hard. It's because no other big company bothers making GS games for 200k-500k sales when they can make Total War/Civ/casual RTS/4X for 5-10m sales.
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>>146676459
And UI
The main problem with the older titles is how you feed the player information about complex systems. Instead of improving UI design they just reduced the complexity.
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>>146676973
Wrong thread
>>146646674
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>>146676917
>dynastic game
>lose the game when you become landless even though you have landed dynasty members left alive
t. paradox forum member
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>>146676459
>How hard is it to make a game that encompasses hundreds of year of history, with the right gameplay mechanics, and mixing country management with military campaigns.
>AI
>Research
>Art direction
>Hours and hours of balancing
It's hard, but Paradox has been taking the easy route with Stellaris (which apparently isn't considered GS, something I can agree with) and HOI4. When compared with their older titles like EU3, CK2, and HOI3, they can barely stand up straight.

But still, all Paradox games are trash in version 1.X, wait for patches and mods, pirate any and all DLC (Yes, it works with the steam versions, just dump them in the DLC folder and use an activator)

>>146676613
Yup, Paradox has been real lazy as of late with their dev diaries of the new DLC, I think it's going to be very shallow.
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>>146676432
just take a look add the current players stats
http://steamcharts.com/cmp/394360,281990#1m

the player base is dying more or less.

Hopefully the IPO fails, paradox gets outjewed and makes place for a new gs company
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>>146674534
https://plus.google.com/+AnnonymtheSoviet/posts/U1PcEiovBjs
Follow this guide
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>>146677148
It is a dynastic game though
That's just to avoid the game being too easy
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>>146676917
the only people against playable theocracies is the paradox forums because they want china instead

now fuck off back there
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>>146677016
>>146677037
>>146677154
Yeah well
What if I made a game 4free
Is that even possible? What sort of man-hours would I be looking at?

>>146677132
Nigger it's one image he's not discussing the game, you succeeded in pushing your general already.
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>>146677278
>brother takes your last title in a war
>you become landless
>you lose the game
nice dynastic mechanics :^)
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>>146677219
>by the 20th there are literally as many people in Stellaris as in Rome II
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>>146677339
>Yeah well
>What if I made a game 4free
>Is that even possible? What sort of man-hours would I be looking at?
You don't know how many people have said that here, and promptly never showed up/talked about it again.
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>>146677219
Casuals are great pre-order and day one purchases. Retarded whales are for after that. And mostly they do get new whales thanks to influx of new people. So overall they should be making more and more profit.
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>>146650585
>>146650737
Be sure to land near a port, and not an actual port or city, as it will be guarded. Be sure to draw your arrow after you click on your target, so that your marines will immediately try to take the port and surrounding territory.
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>>146677339
>Is that even possible? What sort of man-hours would I be looking at?
A game like EU4 would take a single man about 30 years to make. If you do all the testing and fixing bugs youself, 60 to 100 years.
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>>146677278
you don't really play as a dynasty tbqh, you play as a character
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>>146677339
People come now and then talking about making their own gs but no project has been even just started
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REMINDER THE ETERNAL KRAUT SEEKS THE DESTRUCTION OF EUROPE

>destroyed the Roman Empire
>destroyed the Catholic Church
>instigated war after war in Europe
>Formed Germany and left a big trail of shit including the destruction of France's Second Empire
>escalated what could have been a small war between Austria and Russia and turned it into a world conflict creating trenches and destroying a ton of Europe
>Lost the war and being the crybaby prussiaboos they are refused to pay repirations needed to repair Europe and ignore the Treaty of Versailles
>Formed a Facist Dictatorship and kill of many of Germany's intellectuals
>Lose the war and get split into 2
>Now seeks to flood Europe with refugees that will lower birthrates and cause the white male population to decline
>controls European hegemony economically by the European Union

Now tell me why it's a good idea to form Germany in Victoria 2?
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>>146677593
That's uh
Pretty bad I guess.
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>>146677662
t. britain
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>>146676917
>>146677132
>>146677278
t. r&i
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>>146675413

>I didn't even read the first post
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>>146677662
>intellectuals
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>>146677791
The first few posts are strongly against Paradox and it quickly dies down.
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>>146650821
1. Set up a transport wing in the state where you will take off.
2. Select your airborne army, and select the airdrop button.
3. Click on the airport your transports are at, and the the target.
4. Have air superiority.
5. Be sure to draw your arrow from your drop zone for your army.

>>146650886
It was the only way to take the UK with the British and American fleets patrolling.
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>>146677662
willy dindu nuffin
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>>146677515
If you compare the two over their lifetimes the drop is nearly identical.
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>>146651504
>didn't change the silhouette
Dropped.
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>>146677662
t. the eternal anglo

>>146678050
Well Stellaris was as much a disappointment as Rome II, only >mods fix it.
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>>146677327
The people who want china and playable theocracies are the same people: retards who don't understand what the game is about

>>146677447
>still not getting how the game works
It is a dynastic game, but you play as a character of that dynasty and that still confines you

If you lose all your titles and you are still alive, you aren't transported to another landed member of your dynasty
You lost the game

If your brother was the last member of your dynasty and he was landed and you were killed in battle, you'd play as him

Of course you don't understand that though, you are one of the retards who thinks playable theocracies in a game about dynasties makes sense

>>146677596
If it was just a character, you would be able to start as a lowborn or keep playing after losing all your landed titles
It's a dynastic game where you play as a character, which is why you lose if that character loses all his title but you still keep playing as someone from his dynasty if he dies

That's why seniority succession happens too, you don't need to play as direct descendants
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how do I into eu4?

Playing vanilla, I can't even win shit as portugal.
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who do i back for the Iron Throne now that useless robin is out of the way? i'll most likely end up in my own civil though.
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Playing as the Mongol Empire in Kaiserreich. What technologies should I get before I invade Japan and try to get my rightful clay from their puppet states? I conquered most of China and central Asia, excluding Germany's holdings and the Yunnan Clique, and I also took over East India because Germany BTFO most of the Syndies and they were already in a war with the Princely States.

Still, despite having all this land I still only have pretty low IC and am very behind on Armor tech so my Hard Attack is shit. I don't want to be dragged into a war I'll eventually lose because the AI in Darkest Hour seem to be fucking blood thirsty and will not accept surrender no matter what. At the same time, I want to get all my clay back before I go attack Russia and try to reclaim Siberia.

Should I go for some weaker nations like Burma to get more IC? Or should I just wait and build up my army and tech in the meanwhile?
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>>146677569
>>146677219

Yes but every genre has it's ups and downs in sales, except of shooters which always sale.

Considering that they produce mainly strategy, which always has its time were the sales fall and especially gs which is even more a niche, they will have in 1 or 2 years big problems to generate sales.
Adding to this that they fucked up a lot their old playerbase I wonder if they are still as smug in a couple of years.
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>>146678154
>perfect grammar
>no periods
>smugness

hello r&i
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>>146678201
You're not trying to fight castille without dogpiling them with aragon right?
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>>146677887

Still a good sign tbqh.
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>>146678154
>has an image saved on his computer and has a paragraph sized argument ready against theocracies
this is the pinnacle of autism
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>>146678154
Oh shit, I remember this argument and this autist from like a year ago.
>If you lose all your titles and you are still alive, you aren't transported to another landed member of your dynasty
Then I guess you ain't fucking playing as a dynasty, just a single succession of rulers.
>you would be able to start as a lowborn or keep playing after losing all your landed titles
Do you think that all people in a [dynasty] are landed you utter imbecile
>theocracies cannot be dynastic
Yeah, CHRISTIAN ones can't, but there's no reason why some super-temple of Odin can't be owned by a specific family.
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>>146678154
did playable theocracies touch you as a kid
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>>146678493
lel i remember him too

he got BTFO last year and ragequited the argument.
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>>146653543
HOI3 usually ended before that happened. 13 out of the 15 requirements for a major victory were met.
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>>146678154
classic r&i autism rage
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>>146678394
Nah, just trying to slowly work my way down morocco.
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>>146678154
then you play as a title not a dynasty :^)
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>>146678565
>>146678450
>>146678273
>>146678687
>>146678810
See: retards are the fags who want playable theocracies

>>146678493
>Then I guess you ain't fucking playing as a dynasty, just a single succession of rulers.

You aren't playing a succession of rulers because you can lose a king title, breaking the sucession of rulers of england, and still not lose the game
You are playing as a landed character of a a dynasty trying to further that dynasty prestige by holding on to dynastic titles

>Do you think that all people in a [dynasty] are landed you utter imbecile
You can't play as a non landed character, even if he is your dynasty
If it was purely a character game, you would be able to

>Yeah, CHRISTIAN ones can't, but there's no reason why some super-temple of Odin can't be owned by a specific family.
Yes there is, learn about theocracies dumbass
I suggest reading the manual too, otherwise you just pass as some paradoxplaza fag who defends india

>>146678985
If you played as a title you wouldn't lose the game if your starting title changed hands
Just read the manual
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Why the argument of China vs theocracy when what they're actually doing is adding fucking zombies?
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>>146678985
i believe this was the argument from 1 or 2 years ago that made him so mad he died from autism
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>>146679104
Because the fucking autismus maximus here is pretending that nobody wants theocracies
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>>146679098
then you play as a number of titles, not a dynasty
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>>146654927
I'm sure that they will program for multiple cores somewhere around 2050.
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>>146679104
The more important question is why are they adding zombies when vampires would be more appropriate?
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>>146679098
i can imagine you saving pic related and autistically waiting to start and argument with someone
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>playing CK2
enjoy your autsomal diseases and incest whitebois
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>>146655090
I recognize the guy in the bottom left, but I can't remember his name/political associations.
Remind me please
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>>146679471
t. steel pro
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>>146679098
you play as a collective of titles not a dynasty :^)
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>>146673553
Ahhhh, so tidy. So perfect. Now time to assign generals before the war begins.
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>>146679245
>>146679548
Noe that either, you can't change your dynasty
If your entire dynasty dies, you don't keep on playing the game as the title holder


>>146679402
I just took it from the manual, if you ever read, used common sense or had an IQ that wasnt sub-70 we wouldn't need to have this discussion
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>>146679098
if succession laws determine whether you lose the game or not then you play as a bunch of titles not a dynasty
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>>146679098
That's a collection of titles.
>Yes there is, learn about theocracies dumbass
You mean the fact that there is no reason why Nordic / germanic pagans would've given a shit if a specific family was in charge of a specific set of temples for a long time because of tradition?
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>>146679245
>>146679548
>>146679707
>>146679720
nice samefagging
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>>146679696
talex
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>>146679863
>last two are 10 seconds apart
>"samefagging"
Oh dear me, he's lost it.
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>>146679696
>I just took it from the manual
>1439134448973.png

;^)
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>>146679707
Succession laws don't determine if you lose the game or not, you only lose the game if your living character becomes unlanded or if everyone from your dynasty dies or lose their titles

>>146679720
Nope, it isn't
If you played as a title, you would just pick one and never stop being that one
You wouldn't play as a count who becomes king, you would always be that one count changing dynasties
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>>146679980
>it's literally impossible to use different devices to post
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>>146680016
>he doesn't use 4chanx

Well what was I expecting from someone who wants playable theocracies in a dynastic game, intelligence?
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so i installed the skidrow torrent for hearts of iron 4, but the dlc isn't showing up. anyone know how to fix it? one asshat in the comments said he had a problem and then said he fixed it without saying how to do it
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>>146680032
It is a collection of titles, but that collection itself need not be static.

>>146680191
>using the chan's namegenerator for no purpose
Okay.
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What's a good name for a small decentralized empire encompassing the crusader levant? Empire of Outemer sounds rather silly.
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What about a dynastic game that has the same size map as original CK2 but with Dwarf Fortress style ASCII graphics and thousands of baronies and townships, economic and weather simulation, population simulation and a realistic genetic system for nobility with a more generalized system for pops. It would be made as realistic and time period accurate as possible and include a deep and complex political system and varied interactions.
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>>146679863
(You)
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>>146680032
t. r&i
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>>146680330
We would need incredible amounts of autism.
inb4 paint
inb4 F12
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>>146680242
>It is a collection of titles, but that collection itself need not be static.
If it was a collection of titles you would be able to play as another dynasty
You can't
The game literally scores you through your dynasty, the manual tells you play as a dynasty and the whole game mechanics revolve around dynasties


>using the chan's namegenerator for no purpose
wew
I'm waging it's really sub-70, that was spot on
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Okay.

I'm playing Charlemagne, which I know everyone says is shit, but I like the earlier start date/weird cultures. Anyway, the Khazars somehow conquered the Byzantine Empire and all of Italy, including Rome. Catholic Authority is 0.0, and there's religious rebellions sprouting up all over the continent.

As King of Aquitaine, am I just doomed? This is the hardest playthrough of CK2 I've ever had. I can't even Crusade to get territory back in Italy or whatever, because the holy orders don't have more than 50 troops at their disposal due to the low authority.

What do you do in when Catholicism simply melts down? Just convert to a different religion? Go down fighting?
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>>146680032
You play as a collective of titles. If you played as a dynasty you would literally control it (you don't)
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>>146680509
if your supposed to play as a dynasty then paradox's implementation of it is pretty piss poor since you only play as titles
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>>146680597
Blob. Age of charlememe is about raw blobbing, so blob harder.
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>>146680509
We do you keep stating the obvious? Everybody knows that you play as a dynasty.
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>>146680630
If you played as a collective of titles, you dynasty wouldn't be the base of your score and you would be able to swap dynasties
The only way you could lose is if your titles were destroyed

> If you played as a dynasty you would literally control it
>being this much of a retard
Just read the fucking manual

>>146680774
If you only played as titles then you would be able to swap your dynasty and not lose the game, you would simply play asa another landed dynasty
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>>146680509
>>146680865
>the manual is absolute even when the game itself contradicts it
Listen nigger
If you played as a dynasty, you wouldn't control single people. You play as a single succession of a title WITHIN a dynasty, which is why if you DIE without a kid but a brother it goes to your brother (he's you're heir) but if you LOSE that title, you lose the game.
Now it's pretty simple to see that this means Theocracies should be allowed, given they are controlled by a single family. Guess what - there's no rule against that in Paganland.
Going further, the game already contradicted its own description of being about 'medieval Europe' by adding India, Saharan Africa, and the fucking Steppes of Nowhere into the game. This would imply, of course, that China, Japan, etc. are perfectly reasonable. There is ALSO no reason why you can't play as a mercenary band looking for a place to settle a-la migration period or Italian mercenaries later in the period, which sometimes were inherited.
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>>146680865
If you played as a dynasty you wouldn't lose the game when you lose your last title. Dynasties are just a game mechanic, you play as a title.
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>>146680828
That's easy to say, not easy in practice. I've been continuously at war and putting down rebellions for about 120 years. The only way to "win", as I see it, is to somehow get claims on Middle Francia and France, which will naturally be next to impossible given this game's gay way of handling inter-Christian conflict.

You can blob with any religion, just not Christian-on-Christian.
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Whats the best time peroid to play as India in CK2?
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>>146681104
Literally nobody cares

>>146681078
Fuck is this shit? Fascist Canada?
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>>146679627
I've split off Destroyers to hunt enemy submarines and Submarines to hunt enemy convoys - what else should I do to have the best optimised fleet composition?
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>>146680865
>> If you played as a dynasty you would literally control it
>>being this much of a retard
>Just read the fucking manual
lol at that autism RAGE
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>tfw you destroy the enemy reinhardt with your well placed charges and mindgames

you are weak
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>>146680865
>just read the manual
>while you can set the game to begin at any date between Sep. 15, 1066 and January 1, 1337...
Wait a second that doesn't seem right at all...
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>>146680930
The game doesn't contradict it, you are just too dumb to understand what the game is about

>you wouldn't control single people.
You can control married people too, retard

Oh, you mean single PERSON?
Well next time you try to argue, at least learn fucking english
To indulge you: you play as a member of that dynasty trying to further your dynastic interest
You still play as that dynasty because even if you die you will play as someone of that dynasty as long as certain rules are followed

>Now it's pretty simple to see that this means Theocracies should be allowed
Go learn what a theocracy is and take some lessons in english, then come back and try to argue something comprehensible that isn't based in your retardation

>>146680946
Game rules
Someone needs to hold a title otherwise you cant impact the game, meaning the game over
You need to hold the base unit of the game


>>146681217
>can't argue
>BTFO
>lol you mad
Classic retard tactic
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>>146681176
United Kingdom of Great Britain, Northern Ireland, Canada, Australia and New Zealand.
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>>146680865
>he screenshots the manual in hopes that one day he might get in an argument with someone
this HAS to be r&i, the typing style is the same, the grammar is the same, the smugness is the same and the autism is definitely the same.
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>>146681374
>as long as certain rules are followed
so you don't play as a dynasty its just a game mechanic :^)
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>>146681420
>the manual is wrong
>the creators are wrong
>the game selling page is wrong
>the game mechanics are wrong
>I'm the only one right because 'muh theocracies'
wew

>>146681547
Nice strawman
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>>146681374
DO NOT reply to this man, aka the R&I. He will suck you in with his autism and then endlessly throw walls of strawmen at you while calling you a retard. Just report and ignore.
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>>146681374
i wasn't even in the original argument it's just fun to make autists rage

remember, you play as a title not a dynasty :^)
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>>146681374
>Oh, you mean single PERSON?
No, I mean single people, because I'm talking about throughout the game, you control multiple different persons, one at a time.
YOU learn English.
>You still play as that dynasty because even if you die you will play as someone of that dynasty as long as certain rules are followed
Like for example, not being deprived of your last title, but weird, that shouldn't affect me if I'm playing as a dynasty!
>Theocracy
>Theocracy or Ecclesiocracy is a form of government in which a deity is the source from which all authority derives. The Oxford English Dictionary has this definition:
>A form of government in which God (or a deity) is recognized as the king or immediate ruler, and his laws are taken as the statute-book of the kingdom, these laws being usually administered by a priestly order as his ministers and agents; hence (loosely) a system of government by a sacerdotal order, claiming a divine commission; also, a state so governed.[1][2]
Weird that. Does that sound like Divine Mandate-type governments are theocratic in nature? Oh yeah, because they are.
Oh wait, but that's not what you meant. You meant Theocracy, as the game uses it, not as the English Language uses it. Well then, the game uses it as anyone who owns a temple as their primary title. Why shouldn't the hereditary Temple of Wodan at German hill-fort #122421 be playable? Your move.
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Is no Feudal Tax/Large Levy and Large City Tax/No Levy still the way to go as a feudal lord in Ck2?
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>>146681606
>You play as a dynasty
>you still game over if you lose all your titles when others from your dynasty have titles themselves.
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>>146681606
hows that a strawman alex
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>>146681078
>>146681417
Tacky symbol. Almost meme tier.
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>>146681606
>the manual is wrong
>the game selling page is wrong
I can play as someone from India about a game about Feudal Rulers in Medieval Europe.
Now, without using empty arguments of 'the manual says so', reason WHY the manual remains completely correct in this case.
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>>146681606
if you play as a dynasty why do you lose the game if all you have left is a barony
>>
Oi Flavius Honorius Autismus Maximus Reportus Ignorius
It's been ten minutes.
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What I don't get about CK2 is how relationships work. Even with /gsg/ levels of autism it doesn't make sense.
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>>146681696
If you think being retarded inspires rage in anyone rather than pity then you truly are hopeless

>>146681793
>No, I mean single people, because I'm talking about throughout the game, you control multiple different persons, one at a time.
Nope, you mean single person
Learn english before you come with your autism rage here

>Like for example, not being deprived of your last title, but weird, that shouldn't affect me if I'm playing as a dynasty!
You don't play as the entire dynasty at the same time, only a single person of that dynasty, one at a time
You ply as a dynasty where the basic units are a landed title and a person
You can lose either as long as you still have the other

> Does that sound like Divine Mandate-type governments are theocratic in nature?
Divine Mandate isn't a type of government, btw, it's a political doctrine
We really need to educate you isn't?

Priestly orders aren't about dynasties. The moment a theocratic title becomes dynastic it stops being theocratic, it becomes a simple title without any meaning or completely secular


>>146681810
You don't play as everyone in your dynasty at the same time

>>146681836
kek you don't even know what a strawman is?

>>146681964
The manual doesn't say you can't now does it?

>>146682020
Because the smallest unit in the game for landed titles is a county
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>>146682590
epic autistic rage
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>>146682550
To understand relationships you gotta go to >>>/soc/
Autism only hurts your chances anon.

>>146682590
>The manual doesn't say you can't now does it?
The manual doesn't say you can't play as people other than dynasties does it? Checkmate.
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>>146682590
if you played as a dynasty you would control it but you don't, thus its just a game mechanic
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>>146681185
Okay so I have read the wiki and am now prepared for any naval combat situation that may arise during this war, if any

Thanks for the help mates
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>want to be christian and have multiple partners
>editing a christian religion to allow polygamy will unbalance all of christendom because my vassals will be inheriting 4 times as many titles from female vassals as normal christians
>concubinage is blatant sinning and would break my immersion
what do, lads?
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>>146682918
meme the fuck outta those niggas, lad.
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>mfw have never had any interest in CK2

>mfw the butthurt casuals itt
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>>146682678
Nice projection

>>146682679
It kinda does, so does the tutorial who says if your dynasty loses all landed titles, if your current character does or if everyone in your dynasty dies you lose the game

>>146682813
You play as a dynasty, just because you don't control everyone at the same time doesn't mean you don't
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>>146683116
you control a title not a dynasty
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>>146683195
Then find anything in the manual, game or developers to support your claim
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>>146683116
>takes screenshots of everywhere dynasty is mentioned in the manual just so he can use it in an argument that may or may not happen one day

purer autism has never been seem
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>>146683056
t. liquor pro
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>>146682590
>Nope, you mean single person
No I do not. If I meant 'control a single person', that would imply I believed that game ended as soon as your character died, since you can only control one person, no more. I mean single people, as in a succession of single persons. This is correct English.

>You don't play as the entire dynasty at the same time, only a single person of that dynasty, one at a time
If you only played as a single person, one at a time, you would gameover as soon as that single person died.
>You can lose either as long as you still have the other
If you lose all your landed titles except a barony, it is gameover regardless of whether or not you have relatives.

>Priestly orders aren't about dynasties.
Good thing a theocracy isn't a priestly order then, it's any government that derives authority directly from the divine and priestly orders aren't a type of government either. Oops.

>We really need to educate you isn't?
I did say 'Divine Mandate-Type', but you're too thick to understand that it seems. It means any KING who derives authority directly from God technically rules a theocracy, even if they're USUALLY administered by a priestly order.
>isn't
You're slipping. Are you angry? Buttflustered? Annoyed?

By the way, don't you try to use the reaction image against me. Address my points, reaction images do not magically invalidate points.

>>146683116
>It kinda does, so does the tutorial who says if your dynasty loses all landed titles, if your current character does or if everyone in your dynasty dies you lose the game
True, true. They never did say that is the only way to play the game. If you're going to pull the 'they never said you couldn't' card on fucking India, you don't even have an argument against playing fantasy aliens on the moon.
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>>146683303
you control a character who controls a title not a dynasty
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>>146683414
I'm actually a steel pro... gedditrite ..
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>>146683303
You don't control a dynasty at any point besides when you start a game using the only / first extant member of that dynasty.
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>>146683303
you don't control a dynasty but your character can be part of one
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>it's another /gsg/ argues about something for hours episode
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>report and ignore pro is doing the theocracy argument
>again
I have a faint recollection of a similar shitstorm, long, long ago...

>>146683791
It'd be fine if it weren't something so inane and so obviously one guy against like three or four others
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>>146683874
Me too. I remember this same exact argument with the same typing style.

I guess that argument pissed him off enough to screenshot the whole manual lol
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>>146683357
No lad
He got blown the fuck out about a year ago, and he obviously took it so hard he just had to find ammo for his inevitable revenge
Look up the thread, he literally stirred up the current bullshit.
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>>146683357
You can just ctrl+f "dynasty" in the manual and post a screen of it
But of course anyone with an IQ above 80 might seem autistic to you

>>146683495
You control a character of a dynasty with the basic unit of a title
That isn't anything I requested either

>>146683450
> that would imply
Nope, it wouldn't
Learn 2 english

>If you only played as a single person, one at a time, you would gameover as soon as that single person died.
If the game was about characters, but it isn't. It's about dynasties
That's why when one of your units is down (character or title) you get to play as another as long as you have one spare

>If you lose all your landed titles except a barony, it is gameover regardless of whether or not you have relatives.
Because the smallest unit is a county and because you play as only one person of a dynasty at a time
I'm just repeating myself here, it's like trying to teach CK2 to a dog

>any government that derives authority directly from the divine
Are you arguing that all monarchies in europe were theocracies because of the "divine right of kings"?
WEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEW
Protip: that isn't what a theocracy is

>I did say 'Divine Mandate-Type',
It doesn't exist, divine mandate is a doctrine, not a form of government
Learn the difference

>By the way, don't you try to use the reaction image against me.
Actually, you are the one using reaction image to try and hide your retardation
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>>146683996
I remember. He claimed last time that the game didn't end till your entire dynasty was wiped out, that obviously wasn't true and he got BTFO.
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So HOI4 was my first real foray into the grand strategy genre. I actually really enjoyed it once I figured out how to play. I'm thinking about branching out to another game and have been looking at Europa Univeraslis 4 and Crusader Kings II.

I read about the differences between EU4 and CK2 in the OP, but am having a tough time deciding on which one to try first. Could I get some opinions on why any of you might perceive one as better than the other? Thanks bros.
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I heard someone is being an anti-fun person in this thread right now.
Fuck off Report and Ignore autist.
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>>146683996
>>146684121
>>146683874
proofs
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>>146684045
you play a character that is part of a dynasty, not a dynasty
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>>146684127
Aurora, go full autism at the start
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>>146684127
Ck2 is an incest and cuckolding simulator with nearly every dlc post old gods being shit.

Eu4 is a map painting simulator with only the most recent dlc's being arguably shit.
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FUCKING SOVIETS GUARDING THE VICHY - SPAIN BORDER GET OUT OF AXIS LANDS

REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>146684247
If that was true you would lose the game as soon as he died like the other retard said
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>>146684045
>That's why when one of your units is down (character or title) you get to play as another as long as you have one spare
lmao what is the autism? wtf is a unit lol

also no you don't get to play as another character if you lose your last title, you used that same argument last year.
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>>146684127
Attila
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>>146682918
pls respond to this, friends
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>>146684045
>Learn 2 english
Great argument.

>If the game was about characters, but it isn't. It's about dynasties
Nice strawman. I was arguing about your choice of words.

>Because the smallest unit is a county and because you play as only one person of a dynasty at a time
Which would imply you would simply move to someone else given that you still have a dynasty.
>I'm just repeating myself here, it's like trying to teach CK2 to a dog
I share the sentiment, except my dog listens.
>Are you arguing that all monarchies in europe were theocracies because of the "divine right of kings"?
Not at all, but the Byzantine Empire for example IS a Theocratic institution.
>In the Byzantine Empire (324-1453 AD) the Emperor was the head of civil society. He also exercised authority over the ecclesiastical authorities, or patriarchates. The emperor was considered to be God's omnipotent representative on earth and he ruled as an absolute autocrat.[33]
>Jennifer Fretland VanVoorst argues, "The Byzantine Empire became a theocracy in the sense that Christian values and ideals were the foundation of the empire's political ideals and heavily entwined with its political goals."[34] Steven Runciman says in his book on The Byzantine Theocracy (2004):
>The constitution of the Byzantine Empire was based on the conviction that it was the earthly copy of the Kingdom of Heaven. Just as God ruled in Heaven, so the Emperor, made in his image, should rule on earth and carry out his commandments....It saw itself as a universal empire. Ideally, it should embrace all the peoples of the Earth who, ideally, should all be members of the one true Christian Church, its own Orthodox Church. Just as man was made in God's image, so man's kingdom on Earth was made in the image of the Kingdom of Heaven."[35]

>It doesn't exist, divine mandate is a doctrine, not a form of government
Truly. How about I be more specific and say 'any government that uses the Divine Mandate as the basis of its power?'.
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HPMan, you here?
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>>146684045
>repeats himself on divine mandate
>skirts around his own erroneous usage of priestly order as a form of government once it's been exposed
>attacks the reaction image anyway
Kekking at this guy
>units is down
>units
Back to rtsg lad
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Game of Thrones mod for CK2 any good?
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>>146684595
Hes busy arguing about playable theocracies and capping the CK2 manual.
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>>146684659
>rtsg

;_;
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>>146684045
>Learn 2 english
He's not wrong though.
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>>146684231
if the search function on the /vg/ archive was working i`d look for it (i vividly remember some phrases used during the sperg out)
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>>146681078
That emblem is awful. Doesn't suit a flag. Can't you make a coat of arms with maple leaves and kangaroos or some other shit instead?
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>>146684852
He's back and with even more ''''arguments''' this time
It's the exact same shit as last time but with fucking manual screencaps and "refer to the manual"
I'm fully convinced he's the hoyfoy autist and stellaris autist too
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why is everyone bullying the R&I autist
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>>146684971
Looks like im not the only one who linked him to the wrong thread autist (AKA r&i)
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>>146684045
>That isn't anything I requested either
It's literally the description of CK2 gameplay, and you asked for "anything in the manual, game or developers", and this is in the game.
>in the manual, game or developers
>no oxford comma
>in the ... developers
Do we cut open Johan
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>>146684389
As long as you have one of the basic units to spare
If you lose all characters from your dynasty or all titles, you lose the game
Another rule is you can't simply skip persons, so if you lose all titles while one of your units is still alive you still lose the game even if your dynasty still has landed people

>>146684473
>Great argument.
Better than any of your "arguments" until now

>Nice strawman. I was arguing about your choice of words.
That's not a strawman. That's literally what you said

>I share the sentiment, except my dog listens.
Clearly the smarter of you two

>Not at all
Let me quote what you said
>a theocracy isn't a priestly order then, it's any government that derives authority directly from the divine
Now let's define "divine right of kings"
>The divine right of kings, divine right, or God's mandate is a political and religious doctrine of royal and political legitimacy. It asserts that a monarch is subject to no earthly authority, deriving the right to rule directly from the will of God.
>deriving the right to rule directly from the will of God.
>a theocracy [...] it's any government that derives authority directly from the divine

By your own definition every fucking monarchy in europe that claimed the "Divine right of kings" is a theocracy

>but the Byzantine Empire for example IS a Theocratic institution.
Nope

> 'any government that uses the Divine Mandate as the basis of its power?'
Again, you are claiming that all monarchies in europe were theocracies
You are literally retarded, congratulations
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>>146685017
we're playing kick the autistic
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which mods for HOI 4 should I download?
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>>146685282
__________uninstall.exe
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>>146685154
what the fuck is a unit you fucking autist
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>>146685282
ALPHAmod
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>>146685154
>Nope
Hey mate, I quoted from Wikipedia, which may not be a highly reputable source, but it's better than you, who provides none at all.
>Divine Right
Yes. ANY monarchy that claims Divine Right must, by definition, be a theocracy that also rules over a secular realm. This is the same logic that makes the Caliphate a theocratic institution.
>That's not a strawman. That's literally what you said
Great deflection. Unfortunately, you took a semantics argument and turned it into something literal, which IS a strawman.
>clearly the smarter of your two
Aye, my dog is pretty intelligent.
>Again, you are claiming that all monarchies in Europe were theocracies
IF they claimed to derive their authority directly from God, then as absurd as you might find it due to your education coming directly from Paradox, they are theocracies.
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>>146685154
last year it was "you don't lose till everyone in your dynasty dies" this year you finally admit you play as a title which means you don't play as a dynasty.

glad we can agree lad
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>>146685282
robmod
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>>146685282
There is only one which is acceptable lad and it is called _____uninstall.exe________
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>>146685154
>Another rule is you can't simply skip persons, so if you lose all titles while one of your units is still alive you still lose the game even if your dynasty still has landed people
Wew, I guess you don't play as a dynasty after all then but a dynastic succession of a particular group of titles
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>>146685154
work on your mod alex instead of sperging out on the internet
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What the hell is even going on here

Why are you guys still arguing over this shit
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>>146685852
it's fun making r&i rage
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>>146685852
>arumba poster

Is there any way I could filter posts by images?
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>>146685852
>anime girl
Get out, you're ugly even in your 'pretty' form
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>>146685556
>Hey mate, I quoted from Wikipedia, which may not be a highly reputable source, but it's better than you, who provides none at all.
My sources are the game developers, the game, the manual and everything about the game

>Yes. ANY monarchy that claims Divine Right must, by definition, be a theocracy that also rules over a secular realm
Stopped reading right there, you are literally retarded and doesn't know what a theocracy is
No, all the monarchies in europe weren't theocracies
The byzantine empire wasn't a theocracy
The papal states IS a theocracy
There's a huge difference between these things and I'm not going to teach you what is it
At least this explains why you are not capable of seeing why theocracies in a dynastic game is retarded, you literally doesn't know the difference betwen a theocracy and a monarchy

>>146685585
>>146685768
Nice ad hominem

>>146685713
Nice strawman
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>>146685991
Arumba poster is based
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>>146682842
Busy time for the USSR. Peace is in Europe after Poland is wiped off the map. I'll declare war on the Allies in 1941 and the USSR in 1943 unless they take the first step themselves.
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>>146686083
you dont play as a dynasty in ck2
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>>146686134
t. arumba poster
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>>146686230
Arumba poster is based
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>>146686083
>My sources are the game developers, the game, the manual
Oh, I never realized Paradox Interactive defined what a Theocracy is more than Oxford English Dictionary and somehow Johan's and your word is more trustworthy than a quote direct from Wikipedia's page on theocracies, as unreliable as that may be.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theocracy#Byzantine_Empire
>Stopped reading right there
Well I mean, you haven't been reading my posts to begin with.
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>>146686083
>Nice ad hominem
You uh
You do realize that the first is not an ad hominem right?
>Nice strawman
Nigger I literally took that sentence out of your post, you can't call strawman unless I pretend you said something you didn't.
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>>146686083
i will pray for u and donate my money to the autism research fund
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>>146686378
>Oxford English Dictionary
http://www.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/english/theocracy

>A system of government in which priests rule in the name of God or a god:

>King
>a priest
>the byzantine emperor
>a priest
You source is wikipedia and your own retardation
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The autism this general attracts is quite spectacular. I'm not talking about meme joke autism other generals usually have, I'm talking about straight up distilled autism in its cleanest forms. Only here you can see a person who is autistic enough to unironically go out of his day, DAILY, for months, observing the post amount of the thread so he can ensure to make a new one earlier, simply to post his autistic paragraph as the first post.

Only here pastas reposted for the 4th year so far can be seen reposted daily, probably for yet another couple of years, to the point they are also spammed over the entire website. Only here you can see a person who has created a mod for a practically dead game 3 years ago update it weekly TO THIS DAY.

Is it the games lads? Is Paradox a grand psyops operation designed to inflict autism to the masses?
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>>146686736
>The Byzantine Empire was a theocracy, said to be ruled by God working through the Emperor. Jennifer Fretland VanVoorst argues, "The Byzantine Empire became a theocracy in the sense that Christian values and ideals were the foundation of the empire's political ideals and heavily entwined with its political goals."[188] Steven Runciman says in his book on The Byzantine Theocracy (2004):
>The constitution of the Byzantine Empire was based on the conviction that it was the earthly copy of the Kingdom of Heaven. Just as God ruled in Heaven, so the Emperor, made in his image, should rule on earth and carry out his commandments ... It saw itself as a universal empire. Ideally, it should embrace all the peoples of the Earth who, ideally, should all be members of the one true Christian Church, its own Orthodox Church. Just as man was made in God's image, so man's kingdom on Earth was made in the image of the Kingdom of Heaven."[189] The survival of the Empire in the East assured an active role of the Emperor in the affairs of the Church. The Byzantine state inherited from pagan times the administrative, and financial routine of administering religious affairs, and this routine was applied to the Christian Church. Following the pattern set by Eusebius of Caesarea, the Byzantines viewed the Emperor as a representative or messenger of Christ, responsible particularly for the propagation of Christianity among pagans, and for the "externals" of the religion, such as administration and finances. As Cyril Mango points out, the Byzantine political thinking can be summarised in the motto "One God, one empire, one religion".[190]
Uh huh.
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>>146686931
epic post man mind if i post it to /r/paradoxplaza
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>>146687067
Yeah sure go ahead, friend. :)
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>>146687067
Dude of course my man

edit: thanks for the gold
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>>146687067
t. R&I
You know what
YOU belong on /r/paradoxplaza, they do enjoy people who defend Paradox's laziness to the last using outdated manuals.
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where's the fucking beta patch
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>>146686931
Only here we can see someone as butthurt as you over all this irrelevant shit
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>>146687232
here's the mega link

_____________________________uninstall.exe
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>>146687194
FUCK OFF IVE ALREADY GIVEN YOU THE FUCKING MANUAL IT SAYS IT RIGHT THERE YOU PLAY AS A FUCKING DYNASTY YOU PIECCE OF FUCKING SHIT IN FUCKING CK2 YOU PLAY AS A FUCKING DYNASTY WHAT THE FUCK DO I HAVE TO FUCKING SAY TO GET THAT THROUGH YOUR FUCKING SKULL YOU PLAY AS A FUCKING DYANSTY NOT A FUCKING CHARACTER NOT A FUCKING TITLE A FUCKING DYNASTY FUCK OFF WITH YOUR THEOCRACY SHIT JUST FUCK OFF
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>>146687518
Nice Epic I Like It \thumbsup \niggaface 100 \fire
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>>146687518
t. falseflagger pro
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>>146687518
wew
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>>146687662
t. falseflagging R&I embarrassed over his spergout
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Jesus why did I ever leave. This is hilarious.
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>>146687034
>some dumb fuck tries to argue the byzantine empire was a theocracy ACCORDING to WIKIPEDIA
>the same astouding author know for the books "Homing Pigeons", "Seeing-Eye Dogs", "Pig Detectives" and "Therapy Cats, Dogs, and Rabbits"
>that makes it true
>that makes all monarchies in europe that claimed divine right a theocracy
>that makes all chinese monarchies theocracies
I'm done, you are literally retarded
Not even your claimed source, the oxford dictionary, agrees with you
You are literally quoting the author of "pig detectives" on your byzantine empire being a theocracy shit

You can't be reasoned with, you are just legitimately retarded
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IDK why are u guys memeing HOI 4, its a good game.
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>>146687518
RIP r&i

hopefully we will find a cure for autism one day so future generations don't have to suffer
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>>146687765
t. retard
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>>146687857
Do you think I was serious you moron, nobody thinks that's actually him.
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>>146687807
Homing pigeons sounds like a fascinating read
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>>146687938
fuck off
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Anons... in HoI4 can you really research motorized rocket arty before researching rocket arty or even rockets?
Such a great game!
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>>146687807
>"Homing Pigeons", "Seeing-Eye Dogs", "Pig Detectives" and "Therapy Cats, Dogs, and Rabbits"
Did you actually look up the guy or some shit kek
>he doesn't want to read about homing pigeons carrying payloads of love letters
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>>146687938
no one thinks that it's the same guy who makes the first post arguing either but you know, we need to keep repeating it so people believe it and hate him
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>>146688102
http://www.amazon.com/Jenny-Fretland-VanVoorst/e/B00E611RN8
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>>146687587
>>146687662
>>146687670
>>146687765
>>146687845
>>146687940
>>146688102
>>146688201
>>146688279
JUST FUCKING FUCK OFF IM DONE TRYING TO FUCKING REASON WITH YOU FUCKERS BYZANTIUM WAS NOT A FUCKING THEOCRACY AND THEOCRACIES DONT FUCKING BELONG IN CK2 JUST SHUT THE FUCK UP OH MY FUCKING GOD I CANT BELIEVE YOU FUCKING RETARDS ARE REALLY THIS FUCKING STUPID WHY THE FUCK WONT YOU FUCKING LISTEN TO ME YOU FUCKING FUCKS I TOLD HOW MANY FUCKING TIMES NOW CAN YOU RETARDS NOT FUCKING READ CAN YOU SUB 70 IQ RETARDS NOT EVEN FUCKING MENTALLY THINK GOD FUCKING DAMN IM FUCKING DONE
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>>146687807
>using ad hominem
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>>146688097
"no"
can we get back on topic or at least spam something mindless this shit is horrendous it's 'wrong thread' tier

>>146688201
Wait do you mean someone else joined in in the middle or some shit?
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>>146688323
just fucking 'epic I'm uploading this to /r/4chan for all that sweet sweet karma
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>>146685556
>Literally any monarch that claims the divine right makes his kingdom in a theocracy automagically.
Cant make this shit up.
That's the most retarded thing I ever read here.

>>146687034
>Jennifer Fretland VanVoorst argues,
>book
>Age Range: 10 - 14 years
>Paperback: 48 pages
wew
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>>146688323
this is what it looks like to witness billions of autism energy released at once
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>>146688279
What about Runciman, you know, the guy who had the big-ass long quote?

>>146687807
>Chinese dynasties
>not theocracies
The Son of Heaven is LITERALLY considered a DIVINE MAGISTRATE whose natural lifespan is his TERM IN OFFICE you fuckwit, if that shit isn't a theocratic institution where you're ruled by a god walking the earth then I don't know what is.
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>>146688323
>gets BTFO
>gets so mad you pretend to be the person you were arguing against
wew
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>>146688591
and European kings often rules by divine right, meaning God himself wills the king to rule, and whose natural lifespan is his term in office

are you fucking retarded
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>>146688716
t. r&i
>>
>/gsg/ getting this thoroughly blown the fuck out by the R&I autist

jesus christ it's painful to watch
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>>146688591
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steven_Runciman

> primarily portraying the Crusaders negatively and the Muslims favorably
>Runciman was a strong admirer of the Byzantine Empire, and consequently held a bias against the Crusaders for the Fourth Crusade evident in his work.
>In his personal life, Runciman was an old-fashioned English eccentric, known, among other things, as an aesthete, raconteur, and enthusiast of the occult.

You are literally quoting a book for kids and a historian who believes in the occultists, because you took wikipedia shit at face value.

Not even that guy but you are retarded, monarchies aren't theocracies dumbfuck.

>>146688791
Yes he's actually arguing that all monarchies in europe were actually theocracies.

See >>146685556
>Yes. ANY monarchy that claims Divine Right must, by definition, be a theocracy
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are we being raided
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>>146688791
No you nigger, no.
The Son of Heaven is literally considered a god. I'm not the one you were arguing against, he was retarded for calling everyone a theocracy, but the Chinese system was definitely a theocracy, it was even more extreme than the Roman system where the Emperor became a god after death, in the Chinese system he was ALREADY a god. Chinese mythology means Heaven is just a bigger China and the earthly world is essentially a province, and the Emperor of China is the governor of that province.

>>146688992
I'm not him, I was just wondering about Runciman.
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>>146689032
Yes, the steamgroup got BTFO'd and they blame the R&I again so they are shitposting now
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Seeing the level of shitpost in this thread we should surrender to Radical Yugoslavia
Together we'll be stronger
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what did i walk into

can we talk about grand strategy please
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>>146689187
>muh steemgruppe boogeyman
take your ritalin
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>>146689324
oh, the irony
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>>146689308
"нeт"
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>>146689308
Post something
We need escape
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>>146689308
This actually started as a GS discussion but the steamgroup got buttflustered enough and started shitposting
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>>146689460
sorry for sperging out at you yesterday lad
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>>146689629
Who is steamgroup supposed to be? From what I can tell someone baited the theocracy argument then bailed himself to watch the world burn
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>Runciman held sympathies toward the Byzantine Empire and blamed the Crusaders, whom he considered "intolerant barbarians", for causing the downfall of Constantinople in the Fourth Crusade. Consequently, a bias against the Crusaders is evident in his work. less than a decade after the Second World War ended, Runciman called the Fourth Crusade the greatest crime committed against humanity.
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>>146689749
Radical Yugoslavia, a group of shitposters.
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>>146689647
frankly, I'm so sleep depraved I cannot even remember what happened yesterday
>>
Never played CK2+ how does it differ from CK2?
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>>146689797
>4th crusade
>not at least in the top 5
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>>146689749
The guys sperging about "R&I" and "alex".

These are the boogeymen they use.
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>>146689797
the first byzaboo
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pls someone add me on the steamgroup

name: Hellenic
from: portugal

thx :)
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>>146689871
Radical Yugoslavians are literally irrelevant. The janny actually feels bad enough for them to leave their waggle posts up because they're stale, crusty memes that don't garner a single (You). Now Turk's group, that's a force to be reckoned with.
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>>146690141
t. turkslayer
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>>146690141
t. turdslayer
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>>146690027
>byzaboo
>hates crusaders
>loves muslims
Yeah nah, he's probably greek.
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What EUIV package should I buy from steam? The Collection or Extreme Edition?
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>>146690141
Radical Yugoslavia is the best group with the best memes, they're the enemies of r&i and the best gamble for /gsg/
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>>146690141
lmao turkslayer's group is so irrelevant i thought it died 5 years ago
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>>146690350
>keeps spamming the same 4 year old meme
Fuck off, you're pathetic and not funny in the slightest
>>
>tfw playing glorious Norway
>tfw Normandy manages to conquer more of England than you do
>tfw no reason to live anymore
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ITT
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>>146690514
ur pathetic
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>>146690514
>trying to argue with literal children
If they find that shit funny you will never convince them of anything.
Report their posts, nothing gets them more butthurt than that.
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>>146690621
who
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>>146690514
t. r&i
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>>146690117
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>>146690715
>muh r&i boogeyman
take your ritalin
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Best start date/location to play as a count from India?
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>>146690856
byzantine theocracy
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>>146690856
The head of the french theocracy
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>>146690117
kill yourself

>>146690756
there
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>>146690894
ebin meme /b/ro
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>>146690661
Stefan "Mecca Macabre" Molyneux
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Did the roman theocracy ever met the theocratic kingdom of china?
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>>146690661

>who

Not an argument
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>>146691619
Wasn't the Emperor of Rome technically also the Pontifex Maximus or am I confused
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>>146691675
>inb4 some retard will argue that the roman empire was a theocracy
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>>146691619

>There will NEVER be an ebin krieg between the Roman Empire and ancient China over Silk Road tariffs
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>>146691196

I still can't believe how all the memes are converging into one. Truly Kek is among us.
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>>146691912
You mean the roman-sino crusades?
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>>146691196
>old benny boy became a /pol/tard


Amazing. Why did /pol/ even pick on him specifically?
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>>146691196
>Ben "Zyklon B" Garrison meme'd into a jew killing machine
kek works in mysterious ways
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>>146692563
See now that Ben can say that /pol/ simply edited his comics, he can draw whatever, post it on /pol/ himself, and post a "regular" version on his site and be fully safe
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will i get ED later in life if my dick is hard from playing ck2 all day?
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>>146691196
>based Zyklon Ben defending jew puppet number 1
What is this memery?
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>One twin brother is born ugly, sickly and to boot looks like a turk
>One is born Genius and looks actually white

I wonder which one will have a strange accident...
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Anyone know who owns the random country picker site? Needs more special goal variety, I'm bored.
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>>146692759
>anything but sibling incest

off yourself
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>>146692709
Holy fuck what.

Source: https://twitter.com/GrrrGraphics/status/746198233886523392
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>>146693147
Okay so maybe Ben "emptying my 9 on welfare line" garrison is really going crazy
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>>146692848
He's realized /pol/ has more money than 16 year old libertarians.
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>>146693147
He should have just filled the boat with browns and it would have been more accurate desu.
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>>146693261
He's changed a lot.
http://grrrgraphics.com/cartoons/obamas-leftist-lens
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MEHMET
MY
SON
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>>146693727
Of course the media has given no attention to the fact the florida shooter frequented the club and was butthurt one of his partners tested positive for HIV so he shot up the place and just used Islam as a way to deflect attention from his own assblasting.
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>>146689307
t. cobra
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>>146693147
>that political correctness shark
>implying UK is not the biggest political corecctness shithole where you can get jailed for posts on facebook
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>>146691912
They did meet though and they were friends, mostly because their borders never really touched. China considered Rome to be a China in the west, with the barbarians sandwiched between them.
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>>146693147
>Holy fuck what
What? What's wrong with it?
>>
Lads, how am I supposed to invade Britain if I can't even fight their navy? I've been using naval bombers in the english channel to thin them out but they seem to produce more than I destroy and I can't get my foot in far enough with my own navy to make a dent.

what am I doing wrong?
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>>146694271
>Lads, how am I supposed to invade Britain if I can't even fight their navy
Build more ships and then acquire skill
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>>146694271
paratroopers
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>>146691196
Does he have to label everything?
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>>146671802
India was too much anyway please stop this nonsense
Consider even above the lag and bloat that ck2 can't model the politics and administrative style of every region in the world.
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>>146694620
It doesn't even really model the politics and administrative style of western europe accurately
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>>146693970
>there will never be an alt-history GS were you tagteam the world together
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>>146694271
Build more ships and planes. You should also work on stopping their trade by taking away indochina and india.
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>>146675597
Goddammit that doesn't matter.

What's the version number right before conclave?
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>>146690856
One of the vassal counts in Sri Lanka in the early game as a custom Nestorian character
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>>146694731
China actually corresponded with the Byzantine empire a lot, and would send concerned messages after long periods of no communication or after civil wars.
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>>146674584
If only they could actually make a game good enough to be loved and quoted by the masses
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>>146694808
2.4.5
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>>146693147
Please, tell me it's a satire.
Holy fuck, it's so bad.

>>146694027
And this is how memes proliferate and ironic shitposting becomes a new norm. At one point people start believing it and we get modern 4chan.
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New Thread
>>146695260
>>146695260
>>146695260
>>146695260
>>
If we're talking about what we want CK2 to change, I'd rather see regencies be made more in depth and interesting, rather than random people dicking around for awhile until your ruler is of age have there be real intrigue going on, and the possibility of a coup or something, like the regent assigning friends and members of his faction to the council or going on wars or implementing religious practices that he believes in.

I also think that sine you can appoint a designated regent that they should be appointed by De Jure Kingdom so you can have one guy managing the lands and vassals of each of those Kingdoms.
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>>146693910
Thats because its not true
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>>146694882
That's fine and all but we are talking about romans not greeks
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>>146695317
I want playable theocracies because every monarchy in Europe was actually a theocracy
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>>146680498
What in the hell is this CSS really ugly my laddo
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>>146647696
Im trying to figure out how to play EU 4 properly, It seems every single game I fuck something up and get wrecked at one point or the other, to the point I never actually finish the games abandoning them and starting again once it is fucked beyond salvation...

Any tips on how to maintain a stable economy? I usually play with ottoman empire since it is relatively easy to learn to play with it, but no matter how rich I become or how big I bloat my country my economy just crashes and burn, and usually the commonwqealth bloats just as big as I do which makes it impossible for me to progress.

What am I doing wrong?
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>>146685852
Because HPM often hosts these 2-thread-spanning 5 hour long arguments. He will not back down no matter what and he will always get the last reply.
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>>146671802
It doesn't make sense, but there is no way for Paradox to make China work. It would be too much for the system to process. Plus, they probably wouldn't implent a proper government for it
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>>146697083
trob
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>>146686931
He is probably just a bot
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>>146673087
You realize what they're doing, right?
>AGOT mod can't make Essos because no Republics
>"Woah, lookie there, a Republic DLC"
>AGOT mod can't make Dothraki
>"Woaaah, Horse Lord mod!"
>AGOT mod has crappy White Walkers
>"Uhhhh... Zombies work in the middle ages, right?"
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>>146691619
They were aware of eachothers existance
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>>146699781
*Horse Lord DLC
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